[00:00:34] <^demon> brion: Any chance of getting a final yay/nay on r47352 (marked fixme still). You added it, removed it, Tim added it, and it's been fixme'd for 2+ months :) [00:01:37] ^demon: *shrug* afaik nothing's being harmed by leaving it in whatever state for the moment, and it's not new since last review so i'd rather skip looking at it for now :) [00:01:59] 03werdna * r50031 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/Preferences.php skins/common/oldshared.css): Fix alignment of prefs buttons in standard and cologneblue [00:02:01] whee [00:02:30] so I went to a comedy show last ight and as I was walking out they gave me free tickets to the next show [00:02:37] some guy who's pretty famous in ireland [00:02:42] <^demon> brion: k :) [00:02:45] <^demon> werdna: Who? [00:02:52] anyway, there were all these irish backpackers in row W for Des Bishop [00:02:56] werdna: sell them on ebay [00:03:01] and they'd paid like $35 to go see him [00:03:15] and there we were in row H, having been given the tickets an hour earlier for free [00:03:37] did you get beaten up by a bunch of angry drunk irishmen? [00:03:38] 03yaron * r50032 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_DV_Time.php: Fixed bug, to distinguish initializing based on a year from initializing based on a Julian day [00:03:45] no [00:04:05] but I got pissed off at all the irish bimbos shouting stuff out at him and taking photos and stuff [00:04:23] :P [00:04:29] but hey, free show, and he was pretty good [00:04:39] if long-winded and making lots of irish jokes that I didn't get :P [00:06:43] *werdna installs drafts [00:07:06] hey TrevorParscal, now there's a new preference system we can add an option to disable drafts :P [00:07:11] what did the irishman say when he walked into a bar [00:07:20] <^demon> ? [00:07:20] I don't know, what did he say? [00:07:21] "ouch!" [00:07:27] ... [00:07:34] dude those things are pretty solid [00:07:35] *^demon throws a tomato at brion [00:07:40] Murdering one's boss is frowned upon, right? [00:07:47] i recommend against it [00:07:58] <^demon> Luckily tomatoes aren't deadily. [00:08:02] *werdna wonders what the Foundation policy is on conflicts of interest. [00:08:23] http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Conflict_of_interest_policy [00:08:25] i only know one irish joke: Two Irishmen walk past a bar. [00:08:27] oh, there seriously is one [00:08:30] flyingparchment: haha [00:08:36] *werdna was joking [00:08:51] man we are a real corporation [00:08:56] we even have a discrimination policy [00:09:08] <^demon> You mean a non-discrimination policy? [00:09:19] <^demon> I should hope there's not a policy encouraging discrimination... [00:09:24] You may discriminate against the following people: [00:09:27] * terrorists [00:09:29] * pedophiles [00:09:44] * the Irish [00:09:45] * Rand [00:09:48] waitaminute [00:09:50] *brion loves the irish [00:10:26] <^demon> brion: The fixme on r49324 can probably be resolved now. [00:10:32] \o/ [00:11:04] terrorists: George Washington [00:11:11] pedophiles: Romeo and Juliet [00:11:15] but yah, fuck the irish [00:11:16] going home [00:12:56] 03shinjiman * r50033 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Literary Chinese [00:14:05] http://p.defau.lt/?w0LXhhEK555eug6oeF_aSA [00:14:09] page moves are freaky [00:14:19] oh god, my eyesssss [00:14:25] Simetrical: I rewrote random book to not load and scrape a 90k page full of {{dpl}} calls to ~37 categories via ajax [00:14:29] see: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/User:Splarka/randbook.js [00:14:56] in the default mode it does not take you to the page, but they modified it [00:15:27] * Setting window.location.href eats history in some browsers. [00:15:27] ** To show a link instead use: var randBookAsLink = true; (users can set this in their monobook individually too); [00:16:12] brion: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/49583#c2355 [00:16:19] brion: drafts seems to be ok [00:16:29] oh whoops, I changed from resolved to OK [00:18:36] man we check tjhe blocked status alot [00:19:23] in theory it should be cached [00:19:47] it looks like it ("already loaded") [00:19:54] globalblocks needs an instance cache though [00:19:57] I'll do that now [00:22:16] that's better. [00:22:59] 03werdna * r50034 10/trunk/extensions/GlobalBlocking/GlobalBlocking.class.php: Store global blocks in an instance cache to avoid repeating the same query [00:28:01] hehehe comments on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/49575 are hilarious :D [00:28:37] I know :p [00:28:59] took me a while to catch on [00:29:29] <^demon> There's a similar bug in which I got very confused with that. [00:30:03] May someone explain me why I mentioned there? [00:30:17] vvv: you aren't [00:30:26] it just displays the name of whoever is currently viewing that page [00:30:28] :D [00:30:46] *Splarka grins [00:30:58] it has to do this because you can't subst: it otherwise [00:31:15] with no revision data, it works the same as {{CURRENTUSER}} [00:31:16] . . . how did I enter into that conversation? [00:31:30] so in ExpandTemplates, action=parse, preview, etc... it shows as you [00:31:52] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/48837#c2257 [00:31:56] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/49575 <- seems functional but should be refactored to avoid code duplication [00:32:07] haha [00:33:16] Oh, wow, now I feel stupid. [00:33:22] <^demon> Splarka: Yeah, that was the one. [00:33:33] !wg foo [00:33:33] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgfoo [00:33:52] There's no view source for code review comments. [00:34:03] it shows in the recent comments though [00:34:22] Simetrical: maybe you can fix the bug, find a way for it to silently fail except on subst [00:35:07] 03(mod) Make filling in the "reason" field for CheckUser checks compulsory - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18613 summary; +comment (10public) [00:35:37] heh, who knew {{REVISIONUSER}} would end up being so much fun [00:35:59] glad you think I'm fun Pinky [00:38:09] oh I think everyone in the channel is fun :) [00:54:26] [16:28:14] freakolowsky: i think you want #mediawiki [00:54:26] [16:28:48] erm ... where am i at now? [00:54:36] *Splarka snickers [00:57:28] There was no such nickname [01:05:19] 03(mod) New logo for Ukrainian Wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18358 (10shinjiman) [01:10:24] http://www.geekologie.com/2009/04/hmm_times_2009_most_influentia.php [01:10:57] old news is old [01:11:00] also, the game [01:14:27] 03(mod) Make filling in the "reason" field for CheckUser checks compulsory - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18613 +comment (10FT2.wiki) [01:15:15] 9.9 [01:15:59] 03(mod) Logo for Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18471 (10shinjiman) [01:18:21] 03(mod) New logo for Ukrainian Wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18358 (10Ahonc.ua) [01:19:10] 03(mod) New logo for Ukrainian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18587 (10shinjiman) [01:20:26] 03(mod) New logo for Ukrainian Wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18358 (10shinjiman) [01:22:05] 03(mod) New logo for Ukrainian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18587 (10shinjiman) [01:29:37] 14(WFM) New logo for Greek wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18600 +comment (10shinjiman) [01:32:44] 03(mod) New logo for Ukrainian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18587 (10Ahonc.ua) [01:38:59] 03(mod) Make filling in the "reason" field for CheckUser checks compulsory - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18613 (10mikelifeguard) [01:44:47] 03(mod) Make filling in the "reason" field for CheckUser checks compulsory - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18613 (10avi.wiki) [02:08:27] 03(mod) Make filling in the "reason" field for CheckUser checks compulsory - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18613 (10FT2.wiki) [02:14:51] 03(mod) Unify various deletion systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18493 +comment (10jayvdb) [02:23:13] mutante: (wow, very idle), I notice some WMF wikis show in the extension list, but not the core ones (wp/wt/ws/wq/wb etc)? http://s23.org/wikistats/mediawiki_extensions.php?name=Extension:SiteMatrix [02:25:09] hello [02:25:22] My MediaWiki did not compe with a common.js [02:25:38] Where am i supposed to put it, or how can I make sure its loaded? [02:26:59] MediaWiki:Common.js [02:27:15] not found [02:27:41] oh nvm [02:30:00] thank you very much [02:32:41] TimStarling: http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=252177&oldid=246634 [02:33:09] (chinese IP) [02:33:26] (but... assume good faith, do you like it? heh) [02:34:45] 03(mod) Remove "hiderevision" permission from the Oversight group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18511 +comment (10pathoschild+wmbugs) [02:35:05] hello. when I try to edit a page on my wiki, I get a blank page. any hints? [03:12:18] hello [03:12:23] again :D [03:12:34] [[Image:140px-Ely2.png|frame|left|Elyos|link=Quests:_Elyos]] - Why is my link not working? it still links to the image itself [03:13:38] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images [03:13:51] > Note that link cannot be used in conjunction with thumb or frame. [03:14:12] ah [03:14:15] how come? [03:14:32] so i cant frame something and make it a link? [03:15:07] because, and sorta [03:15:14] you just have to make the frame yourself [03:15:17] ah [03:15:19] hrm [03:15:29] alright, lemme try looking at the HTML source then [03:15:30] lol [03:16:14] mostly it is because thumb creates a thumbnail of an image and a link to that image in the zoom icon, so the image itself should indicate it links to the bigger version, since it is a thumbnail, or something [03:16:20] and frame is... similar [03:16:31] well, i want to add a frame for the looks only [03:16:33] image linking is mostly useful inline, or floating above the

[03:16:57] well, how can i copycat the "frame" in HTML? [03:18:15] hmm [03:18:24]

[[Image:Wiki.png|border|100px|link=|foo]]

foo

[03:18:26] [[Image:Wiki.png|thumb|100px|foo]] [03:18:32] that's how you can fake a thumb, pretty much [03:18:34] yes, but try it [03:18:40] it will fail at the link [03:18:44] hm [03:18:53] wfm [03:19:05] oh, nvm, lemme try urs [03:22:12] well, i cant align them then, to left or right, can i? [03:22:34] thumb tright, thumb tleft [03:22:39] set the class on the outer div [03:23:24] kk lemme try [03:24:31] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Images#Faking_a_.22thumb.22_with_alt_.22link.22 [03:24:36] *Splarka adds it to the talk page for posterity [03:24:40] it isn't exact, but it is close [03:25:09] afk [04:15:00] 03(mod) Remove "hiderevision" permission from the Oversight group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18511 +comment (10FT2.wiki) [04:17:28] 03(mod) Create a maintenance script to convert oversighted content to suppressed with revision deletion, and the corresponding log entries too - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18598 +comment (10FT2.wiki) [04:25:32] hi TimStarling [04:25:34] are you here? [04:25:39] yes [04:26:00] I was just curious how you made the static wikipedia dumps? [04:26:11] dumpHTML.php [04:26:40] hmm [04:26:55] I suppose the average users couldn't do the same for wikisource? [04:27:13] you could try [04:27:16] is there anyway of doing that with the dumps? [04:27:43] but the reason I was running them on wikimedia is because it's really complicated to do it without that whole setup [04:28:19] I see [04:28:27] so the dumps probably won't work? [04:29:36] it would probably work, it would just be really complicated and time consuming [04:29:49] you'd be better off voting for this: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15017 [04:30:35] okay thanks :) [04:30:44] keep up the great work :D [04:34:34] 03(mod) Remove "hiderevision" permission from the Oversight group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18511 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [05:49:03] 03demon * r50035 10/trunk/extensions/DidYouMean/ (DidYouMean.hooks.php DidYouMean.php DidYouMean_body.php): [05:49:03] Refactor: [05:49:03] * Split hook functions off into their own class [05:49:03] * Split helper functions into their own class [05:49:03] * Minor code style tweaks [05:49:05] * Remove completely unused hook function [05:49:07] * TODO: Update schema to use hooks, rather than installer script [06:05:35] morning [06:06:18] Morning. [06:06:49] rarbit [06:08:06] sprar [06:22:17] 03demon * r50036 10/trunk/extensions/ (14 files in 10 dirs): Kill some more $wgTitles [06:22:32] <^demon> Hundreds have died by my hands. [06:38:42] Q odd 'glitch', maybe due to special chars? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Chzz#IRC_barnstar_:-.29 has a [ missing at the start of the 2nd line in the

, but it was pasted in. Try to edit and add a [, and strange things happen. Maybe due to the special chars * and [ etc, but I thought  should handle that.
[06:38:42] 	If the text is copied from here, it's OK in other apps (notepad). Curious. Bug?
[06:40:07] 	chzz: firefox?
[06:40:55] 	yes; me XP/firefox; same for another Mac/ff
[06:41:02] 	Nikerabbit ^
[06:41:20] 	chzz: maybe something to do with pango.. anyway the bug is in firefox, not in mediawiki
[06:41:33] 	It happens on me too Linux/ff but not with Linux/konqueror
[06:42:15] *chzz 	tries internet explodrer...
[06:42:22] 	there is some POP in there
[06:42:23] 	RTL nonsense?
[06:42:38] 	06%3A26%5D+%3C%5Bsoap%7Cbed%5D%3E+sorry+it%27s+so+tiny
[06:43:07] 	er, wrong line
[06:43:21] 	%5B06%3A26%5D+*+%5Bsoap%7Cbed%5D+gives+chzz+a+barnstar+too%3A+%D9%AD
[06:43:32] 	displays and edits fine in IE
[06:44:02] 	Fixed. IE sucks.
[06:44:02] 	chzz: there is some invisible directional unicode in there
[06:44:44] 	fair enough, no probs. Odd. ff bug then by the looks, ty.
[06:44:49] 	Oh, I ruined the joke...
[06:44:52] 	no, it is normal
[06:45:03] 	inline POP/LTR/RTL is just confusing
[06:45:26] 	was copypaste from mIRC
[06:47:09] 	hmm٭testing٭123
[06:48:06] 	chzz: try copying that and pasting to a wiki
[06:48:18] 	doing
[06:49:24] 	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Chzz/test
[06:49:45] 	Splarka ^    3rd line doing similar for me
[06:49:52] 	Yes.
[06:50:06] 	%D9%AD is arabic five pointed star
[06:50:06] 	Bi-directional character markers are God's curse on humanity.
[06:50:08] 	that is RTL
[06:50:19] 	not a bug, just learn how to use it safely, you can stab yourself
[06:50:26] 	:-)
[06:50:54] 	pretend it is a left-handed boomerang
[06:51:14] 	handy to wield.
[06:51:16] 	Oh. I was waiting for condom jokes.
[06:51:53] 	heh
[06:52:08] 	٭!=*   what very odd behaviour for a seemingly innocuous little star
[06:53:16] 	Well, Arabs...
[06:55:54] 	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterisk#Encodings
[06:56:53] 	hello. How do I reconfigure an existing mediawiki server (I want to recreate the database schema as well)
[06:57:55] 	Reconfigure?
[06:58:45] 	yeah. I used to have one wiki on this host, now I want to run two on one host. I'm running mediawiki on debian and I copied the original /var/lib/mediawiki to /var/lib/dutchiewiki
[06:59:18] 	aargh debian
[06:59:36] 	try dpkg-reconfigure  mediawiki
[06:59:45] 	or remove it :  apt-get remove mediawiki
[07:00:21] 	the safer would be to install mediawiki manually  :)
[07:00:32] 	Splarka ٭ ty for link ٭
[07:00:35] 	ok, I removed it and reinstalled it. 
[07:00:44] 	ew
[07:00:59] 	now I'm getting the initial config screen again
[07:01:28] 	if I understand correctly, configuring a wiki will create a LocalSettings.php in the documentroot, right?
[07:02:37] 	Hrmpf
[07:03:07] 	if I click on the 'Please set up the wiki first' link it shows me the same screen again
[07:04:58] 	what a pain in the neck.
[07:06:19] 	hi dungo
[07:06:37] 	fredl: were you using short urls?
[07:06:57] 	nope.
[07:08:09] 	If I try to completely remove the Debian package, config files etc. and then reinstall it, I don't seem to get the standard configuration page anmore.
[07:08:45] 	hey Nikerabbit :))
[07:10:44] 	well problem #1 is using the debian packages ;)
[07:11:26] 	that doesn't help much.
[07:11:35] 	i don't think that is a problem
[07:11:45] 	me either.
[07:11:58] 	it is a problem that no one here knows anything about debian's changes
[07:14:38] *OverlordQ 	wouldn't consider that a problem
[07:15:37] 	well with Debian being one of the most widely spread Linux server distro's...
[07:16:19] 	it does not get special attention
[07:16:20] 	that could legitimately be considered a problem IMO.
[07:16:54] 	especially when they are doings things differently
[07:17:08] 	differently than what?
[07:18:52] 	everyone else
[07:18:52] 	so go and complain to them, we cant help you on what they have done
[07:19:57] 	!package ftw
[07:21:03] 	03(mod) Remove "hiderevision" permission from the Oversight group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18511  +comment (10jayvdb)
[07:22:49] 	distro packages tend to do with things with paths and jimmy code to work within those paths
[07:55:52] 	03(mod) Make filling in the "reason" field for CheckUser checks compulsory - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18613  +comment (10herbythyme)
[08:16:16] 	I have a site where redirects hides the real page, that is, a cleanup with a wrong character set has hide the articles on the new names
[08:16:47] 	I need to roll back this but I only get the redirects, not the real articles
[08:56:18] 	erm, im trying to install this cavendish theme on mediawiki 1.14.0 I have dropped the theme dir in skins, and edited my settings to use that as the default theme, yet "it's not working" any ideas?
[09:06:21] 	There is a list in LocalSettings.php where the skin shall be included
[09:08:18] 	03raymond * r50037 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/languages/MV_Messages.php: Capitalize acronym CMML per suggestion of EugeneZelenko at translatewiki.net
[09:08:34] 	Ooops, forget that
[09:10:53] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skin_configuration
[09:12:20] 	ok, I've managed to setup a new 1.14.0 mediawiki with a newly created database... I've moved config/LocalSettings.php to /etc/mediawiki like recommended in the results page after configuring. My documentroot sits in /var/lib/mediawiki
[09:13:11] 	Now, I'd like to create a new virtual host on the same server. Could anybody point me to a good URL where it's described how to do this, or help me through it step by step?
[09:14:52] 	On your own server and full access to the server config?
[09:14:59] 	this is normaly done the other way round ... add a domain to dns, create and install the vhost next, and last install mediawiki
[09:15:13] 	yes my own server, full access.
[09:15:32] 	kraehe - I already have the DNS entry and the vhost.
[09:15:55] 	I just need to know what files from /var/lib/mediawiki to copy to the new vhost's documentroot
[09:16:07] 	well, essentially :)
[09:16:18] 	Any of you guys got mediawiki working with ad auth ?
[09:16:38] 	because when I just 'cp -a /var/lib/mediawiki /var/lib/virthost' and restart apache, obviously it won't work.
[09:17:06] 	in the docs I don't understand what they mean by... "Our AD servers are "exampleldapserver.example.com" and "exampleldapserver2.example.com", and the domainname is "EXAMPLEDOMAIN". "USER-NAME" is not to be changed as this string is replaced in LdapAuthentication.php."
[09:17:08] 	*hm* how did you install mediawiki in /var/lib/ & /etc/ ... mediawiki is normaly unpacked into the vhost document root
[09:17:31] 	usual setup for ubuntu server
[09:17:38] 	kraehe - that's the Debian specific part I think.
[09:18:03] 	in debian you have /etc/apache/sites-available and sites-enabled
[09:18:27] 	create a new site in sites-available, symlink it to sites-enabled ... restart apache
[09:18:39] 	kraehe - yup, I know that and the vhost is already enabled there, but obviously the mediawiki files aren't in the documentroot for that server yet.
[09:19:26] 	so I figure I start out with copying all in /var/lib/mediawiki to /var/lib/dutchiewiki, ok?
[09:20:12] 	yes, fredl 
[09:20:19] 	then I'll have an active vhost with a valid documentroot... only thing is it uses the config files of /var/lib/mediawiki
[09:20:58] 	(check - the new vhost now shows exactly the same output as the first)
[09:21:36] 	so now how do I reconfigure the second vhost to show me the nice configuration screen again?
[09:21:42] 	you can either edit LocalSettings by hand, or remove it in the new vhost
[09:21:56] 	and reallow a+w on ./config/
[09:22:46] 	ok I see what they've done in the Debian package now. /var/lib/mediawiki/LocalSettings.php is a symlink to /etc/mediawiki/LocalSettings.php
[09:23:20] 	*oups* did you use apt to install mediawiki?
[09:23:30] 	I'll fix that and make /etc/mediawiki/LocalSettings.firsthost.php and symlink it to /var/lib/mediawiki/LocalSettings.php
[09:23:32] 	yeah
[09:24:03] 	there is no need to store LocalSettings in /etc
[09:24:11] 	they are normaly in document root
[09:24:26] 	I figured. But it's a Debian thingie I guess and I'll try to just stick to that.
[09:25:46] 	ok, the second vhost now no longer has a LocalSettings.php (I removed the symlink to /etc/mediawiki/LocalSettings.php
[09:26:06] 	now: chmod a+w ./config
[09:26:12] 	in documentroot of the vhost
[09:26:18] 	and load the index.php ;)
[09:26:24] 	positron:/var/lib/dutchiewiki# ls -lad config/
[09:26:24] 	drwx-w--w- 2 www-data www-data 4096 2009-04-29 11:09 config/
[09:26:33] 	*oups*
[09:26:51] 	*oups* also need +r of course: chmod a+rw ./config
[09:26:52] 	777 ?
[09:26:57] 	:)
[09:27:22] 	*hm* and your config is missing x ... +rwx *blush*
[09:27:28] 	:)
[09:27:41] 	positron:/var/lib/dutchiewiki# ls -lad config/
[09:27:42] 	drwxrwxrwx 2 www-data www-data 4096 2009-04-29 11:09 config/
[09:27:59] 	during config mediawiki will create a ./config/LocalSettings.php
[09:27:59] 	now when I go to index.php, it tells me to 'set up the wiki first'
[09:28:30] 	copy (not move) this LocalSettings.php to document root
[09:28:54] 	when I click on the link though, (which points to /index.php/config/index.php) it doesn't give me the configuration page though
[09:29:01] 	and protect the ./config/ -rwx for others again
[09:29:25] 	you're one step ahead of me now, I can't get the configuration page yet.
[09:29:39] 	in the docs I don't understand what they mean by... "Our AD servers are "exampleldapserver.example.com" and "exampleldapserver2.example.com", and the domainname is "EXAMPLEDOMAIN". "USER-NAME" is not to be changed as this string is replaced in LdapAuthentication.php."
[09:29:43] 	check this out: http://wiki.dutchie.org/index.php/Main_Page
[09:29:43] 	*hm* it might be easier to ignore the debian way
[09:29:54] 	to clean the document root again
[09:30:10] 	and to untar a fresh copy of mediawiki from the original ;)
[09:30:45] 	I'll check what LocalSettings.php the config/index.php checks for....
[09:31:44] 	oh wait, if I just go manually to config/index.php it does work!
[09:31:55] *kraehe 	fears debian patched mediawiki to follow their policy ;(
[09:32:16] 	each click on 'set up the wiki' adds a ./config/ in between ;(
[09:32:17] 	well it doesn't seem all that bad :)
[09:32:34] 	just that for some reason the initial link is fubar'ed
[09:33:07] 	alright, this seems to work....
[09:33:51] 	voila!
[09:34:07] 	well that took some little effort but wasn't too bad after all.
[09:34:15] 	thanks a bunch kraehe!
[09:45:27] 	'llo there.
[09:46:23] 	I was considering using fancy thumbnails in a page, that could link to an internal page...
[09:46:41] 	I don't manage to do this, I'm using 1.8.2.
[09:47:23] 	My partiticipation concern that server : http://wiki.openezx.org/Special:Version
[09:50:29] 	I (carefully :-) ) read these pages : http://distributedresearch.net/blog/2008/01/21/how-to-make-image-links-in-mediawiki
[09:51:10] 	And http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Images_linking_to_articles but no solution there for my mediawiki.
[09:53:01] 	link= is a feature for newer versions (not 1.8)
[09:53:10] 	Did I made something wrong? The images are always linking to the "upload image" 
[09:53:30] 	Splarka: Ok.
[09:53:37] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Linked_images
[09:55:14] 	This means I need to talk the admin, for a plugin or an upgrade? 
[09:56:00] 	This will be a lot harder than doing the upgrade myself... :-)
[09:56:17] 	if you're a sysop on the wiki, some of those methods will work
[09:56:58] 	It's some hosting sol. not a private server.
[09:57:30] 	Ok, I can ask a sysop, for help!
[09:57:51] 	can you delete pages and block users?
[09:57:56] 	(those): Wich one?
[09:57:58] 	:)
[09:58:07] 	No, I'm not a sysop for now.
[09:58:13] 	k, then you will need to ask one
[09:58:30] 	but the other kind, a /server/ sysop, can enable external images, install extensions, or upgrade, yah
[09:58:34] 	so you need one of either kind, heh
[09:59:24] 	K.
[10:00:04] 	Do you know what to do for the wikiSysop?
[10:00:25] 	In case I'm refused, or even for me to test less time  ;-)
[10:01:05] 	well, that method isn't the best, you have to define a rule for each image: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Linked_images#Site_CSS
[10:04:51] 	Ok, many thanks, Splarka!
[10:06:29] 	Now I have the solution, unfortunatly the problem is far from being solved, but hey! :p
[10:06:50] 	(my pb.)
[10:16:56] 	03(mod) Improve TablePager (patch) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18620  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[10:18:29] 	My wiki isn't showing any results for numeric string searches (ie 192.168). Can this be fixed with Lucene Search?
[10:19:28] 	or is there possibly a switch somewhere in the base that can enable this type of behavior?
[10:20:18] 	What version what DB?
[10:20:43] 	Version 1.14
[10:21:05] 	MySQL 5.0.68
[10:22:00] 	O:
[10:22:06] 	What is ulimit4.sh in ./bin ?!
[10:23:42] 	OverlordQ: that what you're looking for?
[10:24:07] 	yea, dunno then. might dig through bugzilla
[10:24:12] 	Apparently, ulimit4.sh is creating processes that never ends.
[10:24:57] 	OverlordQ: alright. Thanks.
[10:51:58] 	03(NEW) Problem in edit with form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18621 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticForms; (nahidshahin)
[11:02:48] 	hi, I'm reading: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Google_Analytics
[11:03:27] 	it says 'Usage: ', should I edit the page I want to track and copy that into the page?
[11:04:43] 	coz that doesn't seem to work. I created /var/lib/mediawiki/extensions/analytics.php and restarted my webserver. Is that sufficient to activate an extension?
[11:05:18] 	no.
[11:05:22] 	!extensions
[11:05:22] --mwbot--	MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See  for instructions to install extensions, as well as for writing them. See  for an overview of known extensions.
[11:05:51] 	tnx Duesentrieb 
[11:29:44] 	Apparently, whenever an image needed to be resized by ImageMagick, the ulimit4.sh process in /bin/ keeps running and never ends, leading to an overusage of memory until finally bringing the entire server down.
[11:29:53] 	Is this not an issue that have been brought up before?
[11:31:59] 	svip: actually, ulimit4.h is supposed to *avoid* that situation. it's a wraper around imagemagiuck that is supposed to kill the process if it takes too long or uses to much memory
[11:32:17] 	Apparently it isn't really working. :[
[11:32:53] 	For instance, a process started on 26 April was still present on 29 April.
[11:33:12] 	ick. does it still use cpu or is it zombified?
[11:33:17] 	on what platform, anyway?
[11:33:21] 	Debian 4.0
[11:33:32] 	and... what's the executable? just the shell script, or does it have subprocesses?
[11:33:38] 	hm, debian should be fine...
[11:33:55] 	Well, its subprocess is convert
[11:34:00] 	right.
[11:34:12] 	so the problem is that convert is still running.
[11:34:32] 	Indeed.
[11:35:16] 	can you see what params were used to call it? ps -l should tell you i think
[11:35:24] 	or ps -o c or something
[11:35:41] 	You mean like this: ?
[11:35:51] 	/bin/bash /var/www/theinfosphere//bin/ulimit4.sh 180 102400 102400 '/usr/bin/convert' [... snip ...]
[11:36:42] 	yep
[11:37:08] 	so that translates to ulimit -t 180 -v 102400  -f 102400 
[11:37:43] 	-t is cpu time.
[11:37:57] 	Ah, okay.
[11:38:02] 	can you see how much cpu time it has halready used?
[11:38:23] 	-f is file output size, -v is virtual memory.
[11:38:38] 	03(mod) Basic XML Feed support for watchlist (implementation idea: token) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471  +comment (10tim)
[11:39:09] 	values are in KB it seems
[11:39:27] 	so it's ~100 MB
[11:39:33] 	One of these stands on 2.19 CPU time.
[11:39:36] 	But there are several.
[11:39:47] 	right. so... it deadlocks.
[11:39:56] 	and waits forever.
[11:40:07] 	Indeed.  There current status is "wait".
[11:40:27] 	my only guess is a bad version of imagemagick
[11:40:40] 	try to run the same command manually from the shell. without the wrapper. see if it works.
[11:40:43] 	I installed it from Debian's package manager.
[11:40:56] 	yea... it may still be broken, who knows
[11:41:12] 	also, see if the problem occurs for all types of images
[11:41:16] 	or only for some
[11:41:21] 	you may be hitting an obscure bug
[11:41:28] 	or you may just have a full disk somehwere :)
[11:41:43] 	Oh uh.
[11:41:50] 	I get a Permission denied.
[11:42:26] 	well, the command is usually run by the webserver's user id.
[11:42:42] 	you may not have permission to write to the dir it is writing to
[11:42:52] 	you may not even have permission to read the file it's converting :)
[11:43:10] 	so... change files, or change permissions, or become with webserver user
[11:43:35] 	I am going to grant myself that right right now.
[11:43:43] 	For testing!
[11:44:03] 	:[ convert sure is taking its time.
[11:44:32] 	:\ Nothing is happening.
[11:44:39] 	Ooh! It's done.
[11:46:05] 	Ugh, it was an animated gif.
[11:47:08] 	oh yes, that may take a while. and tends to break in lots of interesting ways.
[11:47:52] 	So is it ImageMagick or ulimit that is buggy?
[11:48:00] 	Or is it a rare case for these images?
[11:49:09] 	seems like it's imagemagic that is buggy for this rare case.
[11:49:21] 	I'm already whining in #debian.
[11:49:22] 	imagemagick is quirky as hell
[11:49:24] 	ulimit doesn't limit wall-clock time, so it doesn't kick in.
[11:49:43] 	it protects against overload bot not against deadlocks
[11:50:47] 	hi, I a problem when committing a patch : Le serveur a envoyé une valeur inattendue (403 Forbidden) en réponse à la requête MKACTIVITY pour '/svnroot/mediawiki/!svn/act/be9409c5-833d-4308-b149-be415e9cc84c'
[11:51:03] 	can everybody explain that ? Thanks
[11:51:20] 	But thanks for getting the problem specified, Duesentrieb!
[11:51:28] 	np
[11:51:55] 	svip: i think #imagemagick also exists :)
[11:54:15] 	Grondin: commit using svn+ssh, not http
[11:55:16] 	Usually I use the following commande ligne : svn ci -F nomofmyfileofcommantary
[11:55:50] 	Is ssh access modified recently ?
[11:56:12] 	no, the problem is that you checked out using http://
[11:56:18] 	you need to use svn+ssh://
[11:56:50] 	flyingparchment, i understand, I used the wrong directory :-))))
[11:56:53] 	sorry
[11:58:13] 	I used the directory where I am no access :-)
[11:59:01] 	03grondin * r50038 10/trunk/extensions/DidYouMean/DidYouMean.php: =Fixing syntax error
[12:01:01] 	03grondin * r50039 10/trunk/extensions/DidYouMean/DidYouMean.hooks.php: =Fixing syntax error
[12:07:37] 	03(NEW) SQL syntax error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18622 critical; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: DidYouMean; (bertrand.grondin)
[12:42:01] 	03(mod) Basic XML Feed support for watchlist (implementation idea: token) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471  (10roan.kattouw)
[12:46:28] 	03daniel * r50040 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWordBuilder/src/test/java/de/brightbyte/wikiword/ (10 files in 3 dirs): update test cases to fit new analyzer class layout
[12:47:40] 	03(mod) Improve TablePager (patch) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18620  (10happy-melon)
[12:51:40] 	03(mod) SQL syntax error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18622  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[12:58:39] 	03(mod) Improve TablePager (patch) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18620  (10roan.kattouw)
[13:12:43] 	03catrope * r50041 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiFormatXml.php): API: (bug 18617) Add xml:space="preserve" attribute to relevant tags in XML output so overzealous XML parsers will leave whitespace in e.g. revision content alone
[13:13:04] 	03(FIXED) API XML output should set xml:space="preserve" attribute on relevant tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18617  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[13:29:26] 	Is there a way to make someone a "trusted user" ie they don't have management rights, but their edits don't require patrolling
[13:30:12] 	autopatrol right
[13:32:39] 	03(mod) SQL syntax error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18622  (10bertrand.grondin)
[13:33:00] 	Hi, I have a wiki that is being used quite heavily. I have replicated the database out to a different geographic location, and I'd like to have a read-only version at that location. Is there a good way of makeing mediawiki read only from one database and direct all writes to a master db?
[13:33:20] 	install mediawiki at the other location and put it in read only mode
[13:33:28] 	(and don't give the db user write access, just in case)
[13:33:36] 	Morydd: Sure, create a 'trusted' group and grant them the 'autopatrol' right
[13:33:55] 	I've set $wgReadOnly in the LocalSettings.php but it still seems to error out.
[13:34:10] 	(MySQL is set to --read-only)
[13:34:19] 	and what is the error?
[13:35:10] 	MediaWiki internal error, trying to update the DB, updating the users timestamp.
[13:35:36] 	Does mediawiki realize I've set the $wgReadOnly right away after a httpd reload?
[13:35:48] 	It shouldn't need an httpd reload for that
[13:36:06] 	But I'm not sure $wgReadOnly actually suppresses all writes to the DB
[13:36:21] 	In theory it should.
[13:36:25] 	If it doesn't, that sounds like a bug.
[13:37:39] 	not for command-line scripts
[13:38:25] 	Is there a good way to dump out all the settings that MediaWiki is running with so I can ensure it's reading the wgReadOnly flag?
[13:38:33] 	13:42 < Holos> Hi, I have a wiki that is being used quite heavily. I have replicated the database out to a different geographic location, and I'd like to have a read-only version at that location.  Is there a good way of makeing mediawiki read only from one database and direct all writes to a master db?
[13:38:43] 	Why not use the standard mysql master/slave architecture?
[13:39:26] 	Holos: Go to http://www.example.com/w/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo, you should see "readonly" somewhere
[13:39:39] 	(where /w is the path to index.php )
[13:40:20] 	werdna: It's a hot standby, and mysql is 4.x.x instead of 5.x.x
[13:43:51] 	03daniel * r50042 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWordBuilder/src/main/java/de/brightbyte/wikiword/ (36 files in 5 dirs): split import from extraction
[14:18:15] 	have a question about bots.  I'm writing a bot and I created a new user.  I added that user to the "Bots" group.  The problem I having is that all the bot updates are showing in the "recent changes" which there is a toggle to show hide bot edits (the default is to hide)    What do I need to do to make my bot users updates toggle that recent changes "bot" flag
[14:18:55] 	bizb: Normally, adding the bot user to the bots group should be enough
[14:19:07] 	So check that the user really is in that group, and that the bot really is editing as that user
[14:19:10] 	How is the bot editing?
[14:19:14] 	api
[14:19:26] 	ah
[14:19:26] 	yep my bot is in the Bots group
[14:19:26] 	You have to set &bot explicitly in the request
[14:19:26] 	Specify bot=1 in your &action=edit
[14:19:29] 	you need to specify bot=1
[14:19:33] 	nice
[14:19:36] 	:)
[14:19:39] 	triple team
[14:19:42] *werdna 	jumps on RoanKattouw 
[14:19:51] *Marybelle 	eyes werdna.
[14:19:58] 	thanks guys
[14:20:02] *RoanKattouw 	shouts "API preferences" to scare werdna away
[14:20:06] 	eee
[14:20:11] *werdna 	goes to bed.
[14:20:11] 	Heh.
[14:20:48] 	At the moment I just want to avoid regressions so I can enjoy my trip in peace :P
[14:20:59] 	then all I have to worry about is swine flu :P
[14:21:12] 	Oh right, you're going on a trip
[14:21:35] 	I'll implement new functionality when I'm settled in London
[14:21:56] 	You're still looking for an apartment, right?
[14:22:05] 	When you gonna settle there, June, end of May?
[14:22:26] 	I'll probably be settled in around May 21 or so
[14:22:29] 	arriving May 14
[14:22:36] 	allow a week to find an apartment and such
[14:22:46] 	might take a bit longer for my girl to find a job, but that just means I have to work more
[14:25:17] 	Anyone here good with PyWikipedia?
[14:25:29] 	Prom_cat: #pywikipediabot
[14:25:45] 	charitwo: Im already there as are you :P
[14:25:55] 	well, that's the place to ask, not here
[14:26:01] 	But clearly its a channel of idlers :)
[14:26:11] 	patience
[14:33:54] 	what up
[14:34:35] *charitwo 	takes from brion-breakfast's plate
[14:34:51] 	Morning Brion
[14:34:57] 	brion: yo yo
[14:34:58] 	noooooo
[14:35:02] 	my fooooods
[14:35:06] 	How's progress on code review / scap ?
[14:35:09] *AaronSchulz 	had his usual 4 eggs
[14:35:18] 	go to Special:Code and see yourself :)
[14:35:37] 	got through a fair chunk yesterday, but there's plenty more
[14:35:41] 	getting back on track :D
[14:35:48] 	i need more code review monkeys ;)
[14:36:00] 	that sounds a lot like what I said
[14:37:07] 	Right; you gonna scap to HEAD when you're done?
[14:39:54] 	brion: so what do you do with your extra pennies?
[14:40:24] *AaronSchulz 	keeps them in two bags for now
[14:40:38] 	I should start paying for things like Krammer
[14:41:13] 	Can any of you reach wikitech.wikimedia.org?
[14:41:58] 	Nope
[14:42:05] 	no
[14:42:19] 	i got a couple jars in the kitchen
[14:42:26] 	one for quarters, which get used for laundry
[14:42:30] 	one for the other, useless coins
[14:42:41] 	I think you can melt them down for more money than the nominal value
[14:42:47] 	just watch out for the feds :)
[14:42:49] 	AaronSchulz> i cant :(
[14:42:52] 	bah, the vm may have crashed again
[14:45:26] 	03(mod) Improve TablePager (patch) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18620  (10happy-melon)
[14:45:32] 	hashar: why not?
[14:45:52] 	can ping but :80 seems out
[14:46:13] 	oh, that...I thought you were talking about coin melting :)
[14:46:14] 	03(mod) Improve TablePager (patch) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18620  +comment (10happy-melon)
[14:46:27] 	AaronSchulz: lol
[14:46:58] 	AaronSchulz: Im in australia, want to start up a coim melting syndicate? :P
[14:47:02] 	I can contribute since I have a couple of useless cents
[14:47:19] 	the Australian Business Network?
[14:48:16] 	AaronSchulz: mmm
[14:49:12] 	AaronSchulz: pennies are mostly zinc these days, don't think it's worth much ;)
[14:49:22] 	prolly more copper in the shitty electrical wiring in my flat :D
[14:49:36] 	you could dig up your phone line and sell it
[14:49:40] 	yeah, they keep watering down the copper
[14:49:42] 	i hear that's popular in south africa
[14:50:12] 	flyinparchment: People steal copper from substations (yes live substations) over here
[14:50:20] 	flyingparchment: it's actually a common problem in parks and rural areas here
[14:50:21] 	adds new meaning to the term "hot wires"
[14:50:29] 	folks will dig up the power lines to streetlights and shit
[14:50:47] 	Pennies are a useless coin.
[14:51:35] 	Marybelle: about as useless as 5 cents over here
[14:52:18] 	brion-breakfast: I have a better idea!
[14:52:39] 	meow
[14:52:57] 	Go eat your grass rabbit boy :P
[14:53:25] 	Hi, is revid(t) always < revid(t+1) for an article ?
[14:53:54] 	brion: http://gothamist.com/2007/05/04/incentsed_over.php
[14:54:12] 	proppy: not guaranteed
[14:54:30] 	some cases such as imports or certain kinds of undeletes may result in different ordering of ids
[14:55:05] 	brion-breakfast: your comment made  http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/comments superugly :o
[14:55:24] 	brion-breakfast: thanks
[14:56:07] 	:(
[15:00:55] 	03(mod) Improve TablePager (patch) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18620  (10roan.kattouw)
[15:14:17] 	03aaron * r50043 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.class.php FlaggedRevs.hooks.php): Cleaned up addToHistLine() perms and $skin var cruft.
[15:17:29] 	hmm
[15:23:34] 	03dale * r50044 10/branches/new-upload/phase3/ (5 files in 3 dirs): 
[15:23:34] 	stubs for progress on http uploads
[15:23:34] 	fixes bug 18264 Cannot use "upload by URL" feature with javascript disabled
[15:24:03] 	03(mod) Cannot use "upload by URL" feature with javascript disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18264  +comment (10dale)
[15:24:59] 	03(mod) Merge new-upload branch (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18563  (10dale)
[15:29:02] 	yello' ...  i's me ... your favorite neusence
[15:33:35] 	ugga
[15:38:40] 	03(mod) Improve TablePager (patch) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18620  +comment (10happy-melon)
[15:41:21] 	can somone tall me how tha  can i get the directory to which a filename will be saved at upload before it actually gets saved?
[15:43:47] 	It's based on the md5 hash of the file.
[15:44:05] 	So you have to calculate that.
[15:44:16] 	For existing files, use Special:FilePath or the API
[15:44:18] 	Or change the variable to disable that.
[15:44:28] 	Marybelle: file name?
[15:44:38] 	File contents, I think.
[15:44:45] 	file name?
[15:44:53] 	File contents, I think.
[15:45:08] 	otherwise duplicate files would overwrite each other
[15:45:22] 	No they wouldn't, cause they'd have different filenames
[15:45:32] 	But it has to be the hash of the filename
[15:45:40] 	Otherwise Special:Filepath can't calculate it
[15:45:52] 	Filepath just reads the table entry...
[15:48:39] 	hmmm ... i guess you need the context story ...:D ... as i was doing yesterday, trying to piggy-back file URL into the DB, so i can index it in Oracle DB, and i thought to myself comments can be misused for that ... but here's the catch ... if i try to use UploadComplete hook, are things already stored in DB, if i use UploadForm:BeforeProcessing hook i don't have the file url ... and i say as mice usualy say as they meet the cat ... EE
[15:48:57] 	Marybelle: ...which doesn't contain the MD5 of the file contents, just the SHA-1
[15:49:48] 	Oh, right.
[15:50:16] 	freakolowsky: There should be some function somewhere which builds that path
[15:50:19] 	ugga bugga
[15:50:31] 	DarkRift: ... point and i shall folow
[15:50:56] 	where did that DarkRift come from??
[15:51:00] 	I have no idea what that function would be called :P
[15:51:14] 	freakolowsky: From tab-completing 'D', which is near 'R' on a QUERTY keyowrd
[15:51:18] 	*keyboard
[15:51:31] *freakolowsky 	is looped in a repetetive bang-the-head-against-the-wall motion
[15:52:24] 	@RK ... hmmm ... this Bitch ... X that is ... is smarter than she looks :D
[15:53:34] 	brb ... 
[15:59:32] 	03daniel * r50045 10/trunk/WikiWord/ (24 files in 6 dirs): split import from extraction
[16:00:12] 	03catrope * r50046 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Pager.php: (bug 18620) Fix some escaping issues in TablePager::formatRow() and set $mCurrentRow earlier. Patch by Happy-Melon
[16:00:20] 	03(FIXED) Improve TablePager (patch) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18620  -need-review +reviewed; +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[16:08:27] 	hi brion; is there a way to do what I want without using curl ? (you mentioned it should ber avoided but I do not see how to do without it)
[16:09:06] 	Http::get ? 
[16:10:07] 	oh, I did not know about it 
[16:11:14] 	:)
[16:11:48] 	well, sorry :)
[16:14:15] 	brion : I also used sed because of security issues you mentioned earlier: sed allows me to do the html-escaping in the pipe, before the file is saved on the disk. is it possible to do this without sed ? I suppose there might be a way to redirect the output to php, but I am not sure...
[16:15:22] 	yes, you could read the output in directly
[16:16:36] 	with wfShellExec ?
[16:21:51] *freakolowsky 	bangs his head agains the wall some more ... wfFindFile ... silly ... BANG, BANG, BANG, ...
[16:23:06] 	mind the wall!
[16:23:40] 	lol ... and Pink Floyd :: The Wall on the radio .... ROFLOLing my ass of
[16:30:38] 	why must it rain ... would be nice to go for a nice 5km jogg right about now :S
[16:31:02] 	the weather is wonderful actually
[16:31:24] 	i believe it is ... somwhere on the planet ... just not here
[16:36:23] 	03(mod) Problem in edit with form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18621  (10yaron57)
[16:46:54] 	brion-meeting: Http::get() returns $false if  $retcode != 200 ; however I get a 404 retcode because I am getting the text through the 404 handler. 
[16:47:37] 	hmm sorry, did not see that you were having a meeting
[16:48:05] 	ThomasV: 404 handler should override to a 200 if there's proper content...
[16:48:38] 	I guess it means my handler is not properly setup
[16:48:53] 	:D
[16:49:00] 	I use WebStore
[16:59:51] 	hello guys! I'd like to upload an image to WikiCommons that I got from another person with public domain license. What option should I choose for "Licensing:" field? Seems that {{PD-self}} is not the right option because it's _not_ my own image rather my friend's one. "Too simple to be copyrighted"? No way - the image is not 'too simple'. So what is the option for other person's content with public domain license and good enough to be copyrighted - but
[16:59:51] 	 public domain anyway?
[17:00:24] 	booxter: wrong channel
[17:00:37] 	ThomasV, what channel is the right one?
[17:01:00] 	not sure, maybe #wikimedia-commons
[17:01:20] 	thanks
[17:12:04] 	03rotem * r50047 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Localization update for he.
[17:13:37] 	03(NEW) Special:LonelyPages not being updated on dewiki (and empty) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18623 major; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (pgrawehr)
[17:20:14] 	03(mod) Basic XML Feed support for watchlist (implementation idea: token) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471  (10edwardzyang)
[17:38:32] 	03rotem * r50048 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.i18n.php: Localization fix for he.
[17:46:50] 	03(mod) Basic XML Feed support for watchlist (implementation idea: token) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471  (10mail)
[17:47:03] 	18623 is a dupe of something.
[17:49:16] 	back in a few...
[17:49:46] 	03(ASSIGNED) Backup systems (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18255  +comment (10fvassard)
[17:57:22] 	03(mod) Deadlock FlaggedRevision::insertOn while saving a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17275  (10forrester.wikipedia)
[18:02:24] 	03(FIXED) Subscribers reporting receiving multiple copies of messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17801  +comment (10fvassard)
[18:11:34] 	How can I change the save_path value? I am recieving a warning during install.
[18:13:00] 	kapernicus: Edit php.ini, if you can
[18:16:35] 	Roan: the report says (C:\PHP5\sessiondata) is invalid or unwritable. I don't see anything like that in the ini file?
[18:16:56] 	You don't see that path in the INI file?
[18:17:10] 	Can you check whether that directory even exists, and create it if it doesn't?
[18:21:13] 	Hi, i was wondering if there is someone that could help me through some stuff...
[18:21:20] 	!ask
[18:21:20] --mwbot--	Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. See also: !gethelp
[18:21:27] 	I'm trying to make my wiki into a sort of blog
[18:21:42] 	was wondering if there are any blog extensions?
[18:21:49] 	!matrix
[18:21:49] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix
[18:21:51] 	Look there?
[18:22:45] 	oh ok, thanks!
[18:29:21] 	can I restrict the number of columns prefix index has when transcluded?
[18:30:16] 	Roan: stupid mistake on my part. been editing index.php and not php.ini. thanks
[18:30:39] 	how can I configure the preview size of a file page (especially useful would be to be able to configure it based on whether paging is being used) -> http://usability.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Design-SearchResults.pdf&page=4
[18:30:56] 	for many people, this page is too wide
[18:31:17] 	(and the way it's done is breaking the template)
[18:31:29] 	TrevorParscal: That PDF preview thing is an extension AFAIK, lemme check
[18:31:54] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PdfHandler
[18:31:59] 	Yes, I'm using that extension
[18:32:17] 	but, I can't find in the code where this paging functionality is coming from
[18:32:28] 	looks to be based on something in the core
[18:33:36] 	You can tweak $wgPdfHandlerDpi I guess, it's used to calculate $width and $height
[18:33:51] 	oh is that the redesign, looks really good \o/
[18:33:57] 	In PdfImage::getPageSize()
[18:34:34] 	I like that thing on top, with Articles - Files - Help - Everything - Advanced
[18:34:48] 	no, the DPI only affects the interpreted resolution of the image, which for a PDF just makes the thumbnail look clear or blurry
[18:35:19] 	RoanKattouw: yes, it's a step beyond the work done by rainman (shown in the first slide of that PDF)
[18:35:36] 	Hmm
[18:35:45] 	Did you actually try tweaking that var?
[18:37:04] 	TrevorParscal, is this photoshop or is there code to commit?
[18:38:05] 	rainman_: it's not "photoshop" but yes, these are done in image composition software... So, no code yet :)
[18:38:06] 	"Initial mock-up of revised search results. Designed by Trevor Parscal. "
[18:38:33] 	yes, these are mock-ups
[18:39:18] 	I tried very hard to do them in Gimp, and did one that way - but ended up getting a copy of Pixelmator to redo it and finish the others...
[18:39:58] *TrevorParscal 	has too many years of photoshop experience to put up with the Gimp way of doing things...
[18:40:20] *TrevorParscal 	is spoiled...
[18:40:33] 	Free software!
[18:40:40] 	The revolution is now!
[18:40:47] *Marybelle 	<3 Photoshop.
[18:40:56] 	eh ;) ok, so now we need someone to implement it .. i might poke at it at some point this or next week
[18:41:20] 	Marybelle: yea... I love free software - but when it takes me 3 times as long and the results are lower quality... I draw the line somewhere
[18:41:41] 	lol I'm glad the usability project doesn't get to claim my time :P
[18:41:44] 	My sarcasm doesn't translate well via text. ;-)
[18:42:02] 	Free software is fine for certain things. But there's a reason things cost money in a lot of cases.
[18:42:18] 	rainman_: yeah, I might not have development time for search for a little while, but anything you can do towards this direction, which has been well received thus far, is awesome!
[18:42:23] 	Anyway TrevorParscal I've been reading you're looking (unsucessfully) for a senior dev
[18:42:27] 	Marybelle: agreeed
[18:42:31] 	hi rainman_ 
[18:43:06] 	RoanKattouw: not a senior dev (read: no management experience needed) but yes, a developer for sure!
[18:43:10] 	we want a good programmer
[18:43:14] 	hehe
[18:43:19] 	Want to move to SF for a year?
[18:44:08] 	Nah, I'm a first-year student in The Netherlands, which means I also don't qualify according to the job description :P
[18:44:29] 	first-year in uni?
[18:44:36] 	Yeah, CS
[18:44:47] 	Good programmers qualify
[18:44:49] 	(obviously)
[18:44:50] 	TrevorParscal, ok, it might be that i will have some time and i would really like to see this online asap
[18:44:51] 	hehe
[18:45:07] 	Good programmers with mediawiki experience are very well qualified
[18:45:07] 	hi Nike, nothing is hitto here.. ;)
[18:45:15] 	RoanKattouw: aww, isn't CS boring :o
[18:45:20] 	rainman_: voi hitto
[18:45:25] 	Nikerabbit: Linguistics, right?
[18:45:39] 	yes indeed
[18:45:48] 	RoanKattouw: language technology (but former computational linguistics)
[18:45:50] 	Nikerabbit: 1/3 of the courses being maths in the first year makes up for the bore of 1st year CS courses :P
[18:45:55] 	Good programmers with mediawiki experience that are local (or willing to be) are as good as hired
[18:46:13] 	:o
[18:46:32] 	Yeah, figured that, since the deadline was extended
[18:46:34] 	too bad they need to be local ... i know a couple really great programmers but they are back in serbia
[18:47:02] 	The job description says "remote applications will be considered", how much truth is in that, Trevor?
[18:47:10] 	03(mod) CodeReview comment formatting overly aggressive with link replacement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18614  +comment (10jidanni)
[18:47:55] 	RoanKattouw: if we have to hire remote, the job description shifts a little bit - totally due to the fact that we will have to break off discreet chunks of work instead of integrating the person into our workflow
[18:48:51] 	Right
[18:48:52] 	so, QA work for instance, is something a remote candidate would do all of, instead of it being a portion of their job...
[18:49:14] 	RoanKattouw: are you interested in applying?
[18:49:30] 	TrevorParscal: Kinda
[18:49:48] 	If remoteness is not a problem, and it kinda depends on what you'd want me to develop
[18:54:18] 	Roan: another question about the sessiondata. My hosting company will let me edit the php.ini file put mediawiki is trying to write to their server which they won't allow me to do. Is there a workaround? 
[18:54:52] 	jkapernicus: Surely there's *some* directory they'd let you write to, for instance the directory your MediaWiki files are in?
[18:55:10] 	jkapernicus: (WARNING: Do NOT set the session.save_path to a web-accessible directory, ever!)
[19:03:36] 	03(mod) CodeReview comment formatting overly aggressive with link replacement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18614  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[19:05:56] 	03thomasv * r50049 10/trunk/extensions/WebStore/404-handler.php: override return code to 200 if there is proper content
[19:09:25] 	TrevorParscal, you still here? another thing I think might be worth exploring:
[19:09:56] 	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/2008-11-10/Search_engine
[19:10:40] 	rainman_: what's going on with rolling out the new search stuff?
[19:11:17] 	well it's still getting there
[19:11:47] 	not all RAM has arrived, but should shortly
[19:15:41] *rainman_ 	goes back to pondering about bayesian networks
[19:24:44] 	hi - anyway to force all links to be absolute when action=render?
[19:25:07] 	so 	httpete: Links *are* absolute in action=render
[19:27:27] 	Not sure about images though, lemme check
[19:27:34] 	they are not, I am positive.
[19:27:51] 	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?action=render&title=Main_Page
[19:27:54] 	See for your self
[19:27:57] 	Find 	maybe a version thing?
[19:28:14] 	What's your MW version then?
[19:28:43] 	1.1.4
[19:28:55] 	Are you very sure of that?
[19:29:06] 	Are you sure it's not 1.4.something or 1.14 ?
[19:29:20] 	1.4
[19:29:21] 	sorry
[19:29:24] 	Right
[19:29:30] 	I just yummmed it.
[19:29:45] 	is that the issue?
[19:29:47] 	yum throws 1.4 in your face? :O
[19:29:51] 	Probably
[19:29:51] 	yes
[19:29:52] 	ha ha
[19:29:53] 	lofl
[19:29:57] 	The latest release is 1.14
[19:30:25] 	sorry its
[19:30:27] 	did action=render even exist in 1.4?  i thought it was added later than that
[19:30:28] 	1.14 for sure.
[19:30:36] 	I just yum infoed it.
[19:30:46] 	What does [[Special:Version]] say?
[19:31:18] 	MediaWiki 					1.14.0
[19:31:42] 	I am calling title=foo&action=render via ajax,
[19:31:49] 	to integrate balloon help into our app,
[19:31:54] 	and images are src=/
[19:32:24] 	did you do anything special?
[19:32:33] 	No, just pulling stuff from Wikipedia
[19:32:37] 	in the link you sent me, I can see the absolute link.
[19:33:32] 	I see the 1.15alpha on wikipedia.
[19:33:33] 	hmm.
[19:33:42] 	1.14 does the same
[19:33:58] 	The code that does this hasn't changed since
[19:34:10] 	03thomasv * r50050 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (DefaultSettings.php media/DjVu.php): extract djvu text (bug 18046); escape possible script with htmlspecialchars instead of sed
[19:34:23] 	Actually, we've had this feature since Jan 2006
[19:34:31] 	And there's no setting for disabling it
[19:34:41] 	httpete: Do you have any extensions installed?
[19:34:47] 	nope
[19:34:50] 	fresh from the yum
[19:34:54] 	has that new app smell still
[19:34:58] 	Hmm
[19:35:08] *RoanKattouw 	wonders whether RedHat uses modified code
[19:35:42] 	maybe its a local config setting?
[19:35:50] 	No, there's no setting to disable it
[19:36:03] 	its fedora
[19:36:16] 	Can you copypaste lines 842 and 843 from includes/Title.php ?
[19:37:02] 	Sorry, wrong line numbers
[19:37:19] 	782 and 783
[19:37:37] 	03thomasv * r50051 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php: fetch djvu text (bug 18046); using parser hook instead of ajax, and Http::get instead of curl
[19:38:23] 	$wgUploadPath
[19:38:26] 	maybe thats all I need?
[19:38:37] 	this can be a fully qualified url with hostname,
[19:38:39] 	says doc?
[19:38:43] 	Yes, it can be
[19:39:05] 	But do *links* get full URLs? Now you're talking about images
[19:39:14] 	right right.
[19:39:29] 	Which, now you mention it, probably don't get the servername prepended, even in action=render mode
[19:40:18] 	hmm it didnt even work?
[19:40:29] 	What didn't even work?
[19:40:38] 	$wgUploadPath = "http://localhost:82/";
[19:40:41] 	doesnt prepend...
[19:40:46] 	on images the way I would have thought.
[19:40:58] 	bye!
[19:41:41] 	Hi, is it possible to disable error reporting?
[19:41:42] 				// FIXME: this causes breakage in various places when we
[19:41:43] 				// actually expected a local URL and end up with dupe prefixes.
[19:41:43] 				if ($wgRequest->getVal('action') == 'render') {
[19:41:43] 					$url = $wgServer . $url;
[19:41:43] 				}
[19:42:06] 	httpete: Yeah, that's what should be there. Full URLs should work if $wgServer is set correctly
[19:42:14] 	ok trying...
[19:42:23] 	httpete: $wgUploadPath says where to put newly uploaded images IIRC
[19:42:25] 	!wg UploadPath
[19:42:25] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUploadPath
[19:42:40] 	No, it's not
[19:42:43] 	The absolute URL of the upload directory. This is used to construct URL for viewing uploaded files.
[19:43:03] 	still not right?
[19:43:05] 	hmm
[19:43:12] 	httpete: Do you still have $wgUploadPath set right? If so, make a null edit to the page
[19:43:17] 	Or purge it with action=purge
[19:43:21] 	Then retry action=render
[19:43:22] 	$wgServer = "http://localhost:82/";
[19:44:39] 	still same!
[19:44:49] 	maybeI dont have my wgServer in the right place?
[19:44:58] 	Is it even possible? to disable error report in MediaWiki?
[19:45:03] 	What's $wgUploadPath?
[19:45:11] 	sonej: Which errors do you want to disable?
[19:45:22] 	not even set in my localSettings.
[19:45:38] 	A extension gives me a error, but it works
[19:45:50] 	httpete: Then set it
[19:45:56] 	sonej: What's the error?
[19:46:06] 	oh its serverName
[19:46:14] 	RoanKattouw: Notice: Undefined index: showurlfield
[19:46:32] 	sonej: Then set error_reporting(E_NONE); on *top* of LocalSettings.php
[19:46:50] 	sonej: WARNING: This will disable *all* errors and warnings whatsoever
[19:47:18] 	RoanKattouw: Okey, thank you so much
[19:50:30] 	ok Roan, I had to do both, uploadpath and SERVER.
[19:50:33] 	now its cool.
[19:50:37] 	thanks
[19:50:45] 	Good
[19:50:51] 	I'll file a bug about it anyway
[19:51:04] 	'Cause it's supposed to Just Work
[19:51:14] 	Hello. Can someone help me please? I'm having difficulties installing MediaWiki.
[19:51:19] 	RoanKattouw: error_reporting(E_NONE); is not the way to type it, or is it? Gives me a error, Notice undefiened constant E_NONE
[19:51:27] 	Dammit
[19:51:47] 	sonej: Try error_reporting(0);
[19:51:55] 	Each time I try to type the URL of the index.php in the Config dir, MediaWiki redirects me to my host
[19:52:18] 	Anyone saw this before?
[19:52:20] 	Nindustries: Check the setting of $wgArticlePath and $wgScriptPath in LocalSettings.php
[19:52:52] 	OK, where is it located? 
[19:53:01] 	LocalSettings.php in the wiki rot
[19:53:03] 	*root
[19:53:05] 	RoanKattouw: The new error msg disappeared, but it still a error: Notice Undefined index: showurlfile in
[19:53:19] 	sonej: Do you still see the error in the browser?
[19:53:22] 	I don't have it lol.
[19:53:31] 	RoanKattouw: yes
[19:53:38] 	Nindustries: Have you run the installer wizard yet?
[19:53:54] 	sonej: That's weird. Are you sure there aren't any other error_reporting() calls overriding yours?
[19:53:58] 	No,  that's what I meant. When I try to run the installer wizard it redirects me
[19:54:07] 	I'll check
[19:54:16] 	Nindustries: What URL do you visit to try to run the installer?
[19:54:31] 	RoanKattouw: the config dir
[19:54:35] 	config/index.php
[19:54:53] 	Nindustries: Is this a public site? Can you give me the URL?
[19:55:07] 	wiki.d00med.net
[19:55:30] 	Hmm
[19:55:48] 	Are you sure this isn't Apache being misconfigured to rewrite URLs or something?
[19:56:04] 	RoanKattouw: nope can't find any other error calls
[19:56:30] 	Nindustries: It sends a 302 Found HTTP header, so I'm pretty sure MediaWiki isn't doing this: MW always uses 301 for redirects
[19:56:51] 	http://wiki.d00med.net/config/index.php is what you're talking about, right?
[19:56:57] 	Yeah
[19:57:17] 	When I click it, it redirects me to my DirectAdmin.
[19:57:22] 	http://wiki.d00med.net/index.php --> 404 not found
[19:57:28] 	How does that happen?
[19:57:34] 	What's the URL to your wiki root?
[19:58:22] *AaronSchulz 	reads reviews of his path prof
[19:58:29] 	"He is horrible. I've never had a stronger dislike for a professor. He is very unprofessional, wearing sweatpants to every single lecture and coming unshaved and greasy. He isn't the least bit helpful. Everything I learned was straight from the book on my own or in recitation. Heck, my TA should have taught the class!"
[19:58:38] 	Oh wait, I've got it
[19:58:53] 	It seems like DirectAdmin messed up the SubDomain and the folder =(
[19:59:05] 	03(NEW) Images in action=render output should use absolute URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18624 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Images and files; (roan.kattouw)
[19:59:23] 	AaronSchulz: "path"?
[19:59:39] 	oh, *math
[19:59:48] 	hehe
[19:59:50] 	httpete: Filed the bug you found at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18624
[20:00:21] 	well I think he is nice guy, I like his crazy hair :)
[20:00:37] 	Thanks, and g'bye ;)
[20:00:50] 	" I seriously could have learned more math from a goat with a piece of chalk taped to its head."
[20:00:50] 	03(mod) Problem in edit with form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18621  (10nahidshahin)
[20:01:21] 	Looks like another math prof who's a great mathematician but a poor didactic
[20:01:28] 	Had one of those myself
[20:02:04] 	RoanKattouw: Can I disable it on the php side? Or was that it? I mean if MediaWiki have a own error reporting system.
[20:02:21] 	sonej: No, it's a PHP thing. Try to disable errors on the PHP side
[20:02:25] 	http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=108565&page=8
[20:02:34] 	okey
[20:03:18] 	RoanKattouw: he does stutter and doesn't always explain well...not because he doesn't understand but because he always gets off topic into tangents and high depth
[20:03:34] 	Ah, that type
[20:03:58] 	One of my math profs was just very confused, and as a result confusing, all the time
[20:04:03] 	he knows a lot about mathematicians, math history, and some math philosophy
[20:04:25] 	yes, my 161 teacher prolly actually did forget half the stuff
[20:04:49] 	he'd write a board full of stuff, only to stare at it, change something, stare at it, then erase the whole board
[20:05:01] 	and so on...
[20:05:02] 	Yeah that's closer to it
[20:05:13] 	I stopped going to class
[20:05:21] 	People were complaining about how hard it was to take notes because he'd make mistakes and correct them all the time
[20:05:33] 	I once came just for fun, and there were 9 other people
[20:05:36] 	Roan you are the man
[20:05:42] 	during the final, all 60 showed up, the roam was packed
[20:05:43] 	thank you did
[20:06:03] 	people I thought I never saw before came there :)
[20:06:14] 	AaronSchulz: Sounds like my calculus class; in the first class, people had to sit in window sills, and halfway through the course half the seats were empty
[20:06:17] 	*room
[20:09:15] 	RoanKattouw: here is the 161 guy: http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=355644
[20:09:44] 	lol, great comments
[20:09:46] *RoanKattouw 	curses that site for Anglo-centricness
[20:11:19] 	ouch, he taught 566 too? eek!!
[20:11:27] 	I feel sorry for those poor little fucks
[20:14:06] 	yo
[20:15:48] 	I am trying to add an exception for bureaucrats to this extension
[20:15:49] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AutomaticREMOTE_USER
[20:16:04] 	so bureuacrats are required to enter a password
[20:22:21] 	is there a way to check if a user who is attempting to login is a bureacrat, and if so, require a password
[20:22:48] 	Why would you want to require a password on top of the usual one/
[20:23:09] 	right now our wiki doesn't require a password
[20:23:27] 	you cant attempt to login as a bureacrat
[20:23:31] 	You mean you can just log in without a password? :O
[20:23:33] 	the account has to have the user rights for it
[20:23:46] 	yes, Reedy adn Roan
[20:23:54] 	< dan> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AutomaticREMOTE_USER
[20:24:16] 	Right
[20:24:24] 	In PHP, you could do something like
[20:24:39] 	$user = User::newFromName($username); // where $username, obviously, is a user name
[20:25:21] 	if(in_array('bureaucrat', $user->getGroups())) { do something }
[20:25:59] 	so group information is stored in each user's array?
[20:26:31] 	Yes, $user->getGroups() returns an array of groups the user is in
[20:26:45] 	There's no isInGroup() function, but there is $user->isAllowed()
[20:26:48] 	Ok, cool, I'll give it a shot. 
[20:27:00] 	(but isAllowed() takes right names, not group names)
[20:27:39] 	I think i am looking in wrong php
[20:27:51] 	I think I need to edit AuthPlugin.php
[20:28:12] 	I'll explain the situation better:
[20:28:27] 	You probably need to edit the extension's AuthPlugin
[20:28:35] 	oh ok
[20:28:51] 	In order to access wiki you need to login into the domain
[20:29:04] 	then all websites on domain are avaliable, through cookies and such
[20:29:04] 	Using HTTP auth?
[20:29:09] 	Oh right
[20:29:32] 	so when you access wiki, you don't need a password cause it was necessary to get to it in first place
[20:29:48] 	so there was a automatic authitication
[20:29:50] 	So you don't need to login, right? You're automatically logged in
[20:29:55] 	yea
[20:30:12] 	with the username being passed through
[20:30:17] 	password disabled 
[20:30:30] 	So what are you worried about?
[20:30:43] 	That people will use the login form to login as someone else?
[20:31:15] 	hm, autologin could actually be a permission
[20:31:21] 	that would be nice and clean.
[20:31:31] 	Or you could just disable the login form
[20:31:38] 	(and API login of course)
[20:31:47] 	So the only way to login would be that cookie thingy
[20:32:38] 	sorry yea
[20:32:41] 	finding right link
[20:32:44] 	someone can use http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=allusers&augroup=sysop
[20:32:55] 	to find out who sysop/bureacrat is and login as them
[20:32:57] 	have full rights
[20:33:04] 	as password is disabled
[20:33:06] 	Not if you disable the login form and the API login
[20:33:19] 	Then the only way to login would be autologin through the AuthPlugin
[20:34:46] 	03ialex * r50052 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/deleteArchivedRevisions.inc: Per Brion's comment: fix the UI to make clear that revisions are deleted only when the --delete option is passed
[20:34:48] 	ok
[20:34:53] 	well
[20:35:41] 	yea that might work, and be more elegant
[20:35:50] 	03(FIXED) deleteArchivedRevisions.php deletes even without its --delete option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18121  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[20:36:06] 	right now if you click logout, and login, you can enter in whatever and it automatically creates a user
[20:37:03] 	I'll give that a shot and come back if it doesn't work, thanks RoanKattouw
[20:37:52] 	03(mod) Activate Extension:Collections on nowiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18618  +comment (10hogne)
[20:39:34] 	brion: wee, now my laptop is in ANCHORAGE, AK
[20:50:59] 	03(FIXED) enable autopatrolling and improve patrolling user rights on itwiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18237  +comment (10rhalsell)
[21:00:28] 	03ialex * r50053 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (CHANGELOG Configure.php Configure.settings-core.php): Changed sections for $wgExternalStores, $wgDisableInternalSearch and $wgAllowSlowParserFunctions to no more display the "extensions" tab in Special:Configure when all settings are enabled
[21:01:58] 	03(NEW) Creation of new list for IRC channel and group contacts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18625 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (james)
[21:04:19] 	03(mod) Creation of new list for IRC channel and group contacts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18625  (10cbrown1023)
[21:07:34] 	03(mod) Creation of new list for IRC channel and group contacts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18625  (10cbrown1023)
[21:09:46] 	bah
[21:09:55] 	is Special:GLobalUserRights broken for usernames with spaces in them?
[21:10:05] 	i can't edit Trevor's groups ("Trevor Parscal")
[21:11:56] 	ok i see, it's cosmetic and fixed on trunk. yay!
[21:18:38] 	brion: That's what you get for not scapping in over a month ;)
[21:21:47] 	03(mod) Localized namespaces for mt.wp (2) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18498  (10rhalsell)
[21:31:18] 	03brion * r50054 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialExport.php: Make export depth > 1 actually work. :) Assuming it doesn't bomb and die using too much memory, of course.
[21:31:34] 	03(mod) enable autopatrolling and improve patrolling user rights on itwiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18237  (10Diuturno)
[21:46:42] 	I'm looking for recommendations for books on developing with mediawiki, something that covers both extensions and skins
[21:49:39] 	solarce: http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596519797/ best i know of :)
[21:50:26] 	brion, wont a book be out of date in a few days? :P
[21:50:38] 	what are ya gonna do :)
[21:50:45] 	GOOGLE
[21:50:49] 	/bug developers
[21:50:51] 	;)
[21:52:53] 	as long as it's relatively recent, I can bridge the gap with ze google
[21:56:09] 	hi
[21:58:21] 	03daniel * r50055 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWordBuilder/src/main/java/de/brightbyte/wikiword/ (7 files in 2 dirs): extraxt text to file
[22:03:27] 	i want to move a wiki from a server to another. the old server is running mediawiki 1.11.0 and the new one runs 1.14.0 . so do i have to reinstall to 1.11.0 on the old server, move the wiki as described and then upgrade to 1.14.0 ?
[22:34:14] 	03(NEW) MySQL Connection dies with error 61 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18626 major; Normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (seth)
[22:41:55] 	IIRC, there's a way to make MW ignore extra newlines after the first two in a sequence.  (So adding m ore blank lines doesn't space paragraphs further apart) Clues?
[22:44:10] 	03(NEW) Warning: preg_match(): Empty regular expression in Linker.php on line 1578 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18627 major; Normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (jidanni)
[22:55:08] 	could someone help me with an install for a moment? I'm getting # Attempting to connect to database server as root...failed with error [2002] Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2).
[22:55:37] 	so it seems mysqld isn't running, which I guess it should be. How do I start it?
[22:56:08] 	Mike_lifeguard, what os?
[22:56:16] 	ps aux | grep mysqll
[22:56:16] 	i think you want #mysql
[22:56:17] 	ubuntu
[22:56:27] 	Mike_lifeguard, /etc/init.d/mysqld start
[22:56:30] 	should work?
[22:56:55] 	no such file or directory :D
[22:57:03] 	is it installed? :P
[22:57:11] 	or is it on a remote machine?
[22:57:13] 	I hope so XD
[22:57:23] 	well, I guess I will check it is installed /properly/
[22:58:06] 	03(mod) Warning: preg_match(): Empty regular expression in Linker.php on line 1578 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18627  +comment (10brion)
[22:58:28] 	Mike_lifeguard, try just /etc/init.d/mysql start
[22:59:23] 	that looks better... :D
[22:59:28] 	03(NEW) Spurious root tags in HTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18628 minor; Normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (ian.higgs)
[22:59:43] 	or not:  * Starting MySQL database server mysqld                                 [fail] \o/
[22:59:48] 	but at least it's something
[23:00:36] 	is teher a way to retreive url parameters on a wiki page with sth like a magic word?
[23:00:37] 	just needed sudo :)
[23:02:05] 	Subfader: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UrlGetParameters
[23:02:23] 	Mike_lifeguard, ofc!
[23:02:43] 	perfect :) didn't think of extensions
[23:03:13] 	is there an easy way to make it so any user can undelete a node?
[23:03:17] 	03brion * r50056 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesZh_hans.php: Partial revert of r49831 -- blank linktrail causes PHP warnings (bug 18627)
[23:03:28] 	a node?
[23:03:39] 	i think he means page
[23:03:42] 	does anyone here use a "top/most visited pages" extension, or do they just make a bot edit a page with that information ?
[23:04:05] 	03(FIXED) Warning: preg_match(): Empty regular expression in Linker.php on line 1578 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18627  +comment (10brion)
[23:04:12] 	I mean a page
[23:04:29] 	the default behavior is that anyone can delete a page, but only admins can undelete them?
[23:04:39] 	no, only admins can delete pages
[23:06:06] 	ahh.. we upgraded
[23:06:17] 	delete right USED to mean delete or undelete.. but now it only means delete
[23:07:42] *Splarka 	watches the slow defrag
[23:08:00] 	hey folks. is there a way to download the list of pages returned by a search result? not the complete pages, just their names.
[23:08:00] 	I'd like to put a bunch of vardefines on a page, but put them on separate lines for ease of editing. How do I keep this from adding a pile of line breaks?
[23:08:05] 	Reedy: ofc?
[23:08:12] 	of course
[23:08:23] 	ah, yes, of course :D
[23:09:27] 	i forget, as i tend to just sudo su when doing mutliple stuff like that
[23:09:37] 	Rich_Morin: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=search&srsearch=foobar  ?
[23:09:49] 	er, no, CaT[t3] ^
[23:09:53] 	03(mod) Indicate in output whether an interwiki link is marked local - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18562  normal->lowest; +comment (10brion)
[23:10:10] 	Rich_Morin: elaborate? single line breaks typically do not insert a new line
[23:10:13] 	splarka: foo. do you know of a mass delete function that can do the search itself and nuke stuff?
[23:10:32] 	except when followed by list formatting characters, like :;#* space, etc
[23:10:50] 	CaT[t3]: hmm, what version are you running?
[23:11:32] 	The code in http://pastie.org/463220 is causing extra vertical space to be added.
[23:11:40] 	brion: did you just change the priority on a bug?
[23:11:59] 	splarka: 1.13.1, but I can upgrade if need be
[23:12:52] 	CaT[t3]:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Splarka/ajaxbatchdelete.js  might work for 1.13, not sure.. you can paste a list of pages and it will delete it... of course there are many bots and maintenance scripts to do this too (but this is convenient in that it runs in the browser)
[23:14:27] 	this works http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DeleteBatch
[23:14:39] 	^ extensions too, yah
[23:15:08] 	Rich_Morin: ahh, those have null output, so when they show up in the rendering, they appear as blank lines, hence paragraph breaks
[23:15:15] 	didn't get ajaxbatchdelete.js to work ;)
[23:15:21] 	splarka: yeah. have deletebatch but it seems to need a list of titles :)
[23:15:37] 	splarka: if I'm wrong about that then joy. :)
[23:15:46] 	try this, Rich_Morin: http://p.defau.lt/?6F_Fy52mFSCf77LXvz0BXg
[23:16:18] 	CaT[t3]: well, yah, it needs a list, you should be a bit wary about deleting all search results anyway
[23:16:29] 	the search is a bit fuzzy and can return stuff you might not wanna delete
[23:16:41] 	splarka: I think I'm safe with 'wowgold' as a search string :)
[23:16:51] 	03(mod) Indicate in output whether an interwiki link is marked local - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18562  (10happy-melon)
[23:17:04] *CaT[t3] 	has 500+ of those pages soooo...
[23:17:16] 	CaT[t3]: right, but then you'd delete pages that might have been edited with that string, rather than just created?
[23:18:15] 	anyway: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=search&srlimit=max&srsearch=wowgold  I'd just crudely XML parse the list (unescaping &"'<> in the titles, though <> won't appear in titles) and drop it into a batch delete extension or script
[23:18:31] 	splarka: honestly? the probability of that coming up on this wiki is so low that the time spent going through 500+ pages to make sure they are right is time wasted.
[23:18:59] 	Subfader: what version are you on?
[23:19:24] 	1.14
[23:19:38] 	didn't use the extensions since 1.13 though
[23:19:39] 	Splarka: That works, as does another hack I tried - see http://pastie.org/463220  - can't say either looks pretty, however :)
[23:20:07] 	Rich_Morin: as long as there is something else on the line, or if the line return is inside a comment, then paragraph breaks don't activate
[23:20:26] 	(or if the line returns are inside the parser function, heh, works too)
[23:20:45] 	you could also put them in a 
[23:21:54] 	CaT[t3]: Ive got tools for that if you need help mass deleting
[23:22:24] 	Betacommand: it would be appreciated.
[23:22:34] 	Splarka: that's better, tnx!
[23:23:02] 	CaT[t3]: link to your site?
[23:24:12] 	14(DUP) Images in action=render output should use absolute URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18624  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[23:24:15] 	03(mod) Interwiki transclusion does not show images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9355  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[23:26:29] 	Betacommand: its been taken off the air for the moment.
[23:30:39] 	03(mod) Test implementation of FlaggedRevs for the English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18334  (10cenarium.sysop)
[23:34:44] 	CaT[t3]: if you get it online I can do the cleanup using some AI scripts that I have
[23:35:14] 	CaT[t3]: you might what to look at autoconfrimed requirements to avoid spam along with the abuse filter
[23:35:55] 	CaT[t3]: are you using spam blacklist?
[23:37:13] 	03dale * r50057 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/ (8 files in 5 dirs): upload fixes
[23:37:25] 	03dale * r50058 10/branches/script-loader/ (includes/AutoLoader.php skins/common/wikibits.js): fixed typo
[23:38:17] 	04(REOPENED) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18244  +comment (10cenarium.sysop)
[23:39:40] 	Betacommand: autoconfirmed requirements?
[23:39:49] 	Mike_lifeguard: I have a feeling I'm about to :)
[23:40:49] 	make sure you subscribe to our blacklist
[23:41:30] 	Mike_lifeguard: there b e an url? :)
[23:41:42] 	!e SpamBlacklist
[23:41:42] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpamBlacklist
[23:41:46] 	it's in the install notes
[23:42:03] 	Mike_lifeguard: thanks. will look again.
[23:44:00] 	i reduced most spam after disabling IP editing, using a captcha for registration (Extension:ConfirmEdit) against bot registrations and Extension:AntiBot for my public comment form
[23:47:10] 	and $wgSpamRegex ;)
[23:53:00] 	!autoconfirm
[23:53:00] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "autoconfirm".
[23:53:33] 	CaT[t3]: basiclly settings that limit what new users can do
[23:58:49] 	CaT[t3]: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_rights#List_of_Groups