[00:00:58] ok better not. but i can't get #replace working for the DPL inclusion [00:02:44] brion: if someone were going to make a hypothetical extension to handle some of the geo/coordinate stuff that we do in templates now, would it be better to use a parser function - {{#coords:41.25|-81.0}} - or have them edited separately from the rest of the page text? [00:03:10] parser function almost certainly [00:03:17] for one, this would allow slipping it into the existing templates :) [00:03:25] so we get the functionality into use "for free" [00:04:10] of course in theory editing separately would be nicer from a usability perspective [00:04:17] but you'd get bogged down in it [00:04:24] and we need a generic approach [00:05:28] MrZ-man: also remember that we have lists with locations. [00:05:41] true [00:05:52] MrZ-man: another idea however is of course [00:06:18] there are many future interface possibilties. concentrate here on something that can be implemented into the existing infratructure -- ui can be pulled out in future for many kinds of specialized templates [00:06:41] thedj: I considered that, but it would probably end up being more overall markup in articles [00:06:51] MrZ-man: likely yes. [00:07:09] MrZ-man: personally, i find those kinds of tags more suited for OSM map inclusion. [00:07:12] [00:07:22] and {{#coord}} [00:07:34] seems like the best approach to me. [00:08:20] so far I don't have a job this summer, so I might actually have some free time to work on something :P [00:08:29] lol [00:09:09] :D [00:10:31] it probably wouldn't even be the hardest parserfunction to write [00:10:46] the deployment would be FAR more complicated. [00:11:22] MrZ-man: you should have done soc [00:11:52] I wasn't sure if I'd have a job or not when the applications were going on [00:12:04] I still had some decent prospects at the time [00:13:06] 03(mod) Improve the new Statistics special page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15664 (10innocentkiller) [00:15:30] MrZ-man: ideas are on the GSoC page btw. But i think you know that. [00:34:56] How can I get Mediawiki:Newarticletext to parse my wiki markup? [00:35:23] How can I allow non-admins to edit a Mediawiki namespace page? [00:45:39] 2nd: You can't [00:45:51] Well, it's possible, actually [00:45:52] yes you can, it's a user right [00:45:58] but it's a bad idea to assign it to all users [00:46:07] You could set a separate user group [00:46:21] !rights | hangfromthefloor [00:46:21] --mwbot-- hangfromthefloor: For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [00:47:32] How about the first question? [00:47:39] I can show you what my code is if you would like [00:49:16] I don't think all system messages accept wiki markup - check that the one you're asking about does [01:11:47] Check where? [01:12:08] Also, how can I get the date in French, like 01 mai 2009? [01:12:14] in which file can I find the php code of __NOEDITSECTION__ ?? [01:51:39] No answer.. ? [01:55:09] > How can I get Mediawiki:Newarticletext to parse my wiki markup? [01:55:11] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Newarticletext&action=edit [01:55:13] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fizzgreporangerocket?action=edit [01:55:14] WFM [01:55:38] > How can I allow non-admins to edit a Mediawiki namespace page? [01:55:51] a single MW page? transclude a template by that name, then anyone can edit it [01:56:13] MediaWiki:Newarticletext -> {{Template:Newarticletext}} [02:02:21] Thanks Splarka :D [02:03:54] So I need to use instead of {| |- etc. on Newarticletext? [02:04:12] {| should work fine [02:04:25] It isn't... [02:04:53] I mean it works fine when I go to Mediawiki:Newarticle text [02:05:33] pastebin? [02:05:35] when I go to edit a nonexistent page, it fails [02:05:56] (your whole Newarticeltext and any template dependencies) [02:07:03] http://pastie.org/465669 [02:09:56] hmm [02:10:19] http://myishi.homeip.net:8080/newarticletext.gif : The top half is what it looks like on a nonexistent page; the bottom is what it looks like normally (on Mediawiki:Newarticletext itself) [02:11:44] still WFM [02:11:46] http://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Newarticletext&action=edit [02:11:49] http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/DrownYourWalrus?action=edit [02:12:20] I changed "|[[Image:inew48.png|left]]" to "||[[Image:wiki.png|left]]\n" though, more semantically correct [02:13:06] Should I try changing that..? [02:16:14] Doesn't seem to do any good [02:16:23] now I see a pretty little '\n' [02:20:57] 03(NEW) Duplicate names $wgAddGroups et al should be remove not to confuse Special:ListGroupRights display - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18648 major; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (marcin.cieslak) [02:21:23] hangfromthefloor: \n is a newline [02:21:34] still doesn't work [02:25:07] sigh this is not working at all [02:25:15] I made it a

too yet it didn't work [02:26:46] NEVER MIND it did work as a

[02:26:49] Thanks for the help anyways [02:34:03] see y'all [02:45:04] *p858snake wonders why Splarka added a bondage straight jacket to [[Commit access requests]] (Mediawiki Wiki) [02:49:35] Nikerabbit: You should add pagination to the system message list as part of your summer of code project ;-) [02:53:31] p858snake commit, committed... [03:03:16] Splarka: BONDAGE straight jacket not a plain straight jacket [03:10:15] p858snake: sofixit, best strait jacket pic I saw available [03:19:31] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18646 <-- so of course this is MediaWiki's fault, wtf... "it works in IE!" [04:21:48] 03(NEW) Special:Preferences pretty unreadable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18649 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: User preferences; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [04:24:53] hello [04:25:12] I'm testing mediawiki on my localhost [04:25:21] but not sure why image thumbnail won't work [04:25:52] it gives out an error message saying "......no such folder or directory exist /usr/bin/....." [04:26:45] please show the real error, not one that looks a little bit like it [04:27:30] ok [04:27:57] ok [04:27:59] wait. [04:28:57] *chuck likes Trever Parscal's mockups of the new tabs [04:29:10] chuck: How'd you find them? [04:29:19] @flyingparchment: Error creating thumbnail: sh: /usr/local/bin/convert: No such file or directory [04:29:29] Marybelle: It's on usability wiki [04:29:38] so, did you install imagemagick? [04:29:42] yes [04:29:42] chuck: Right. How'd you find them? Did someone show you a link? [04:29:46] there is imagemagick [04:30:17] No, I was just browsing. They're on the [[Designs]] page. [04:30:34] @glyingparchment I'm sure if imagemagick is not installed, the pictures won't show either. [04:30:36] right? [04:31:11] flyingparchment this is the one i installed on my localhost http://www.mamp.info [04:31:14] Marybelle: Why do you ask? :P [04:31:21] I'd better check if i installed imagemagick [04:35:01] chuck: I posted the link to en.wiki's village pump today. Wondering if anyone noticed. [04:37:44] Marybelle: Ah, I see [04:38:02] perhaps i'll install a copy of imagemgick [04:38:18] Marybelle: you'll know they saw it when someone starts a poll [04:38:28] I just am really hoping that this Usability Initiative will prompt the creation of a *really good* WYSIWYG interface for MediaWiki, which I think it going to happen judging by the responses in that real-life review they conducted [04:39:15] Mmm, polls are delicious. [04:41:05] This real-life review results are so cool. I totally agree with all of these things :P [04:46:41] strange....something happened with my FTP [04:46:48] cannot download imagemagick :( [04:49:29] My apologies :( [04:50:30] Marybelle: Which village pump board was it? [04:50:50] http://enwp.org/WP:VP/T [04:50:53] At the bottom. [05:21:46] 03(mod) Update fixUserRegistration.php to use newuserlog (where available, prior to r12207), and gaussian estimates for the fossils - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18638 (10herd) [05:31:14] hello...anyone around?? :) [05:31:55] !ask [05:31:55] --mwbot-- Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. See also: !gethelp [05:31:59] !tooquiet [05:31:59] --mwbot-- Yes, #mediawiki has a lot of people idling. If they were all talking, there'd be no on-topic discussions at all. The channel can be social but is in no way required to be. If you take offense at the silence, you may wish to find a more social channel. If you need help, just ask, and please don't ask for help or for attention before actually asking your question, that's just a waste of time, see !ask [05:44:10] Splarka: Heh, I like that factoid [05:47:48] 03(mod) Add a music wikimodule - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189 (10relatividadgeneral) [05:52:06] !time [05:52:06] --mwbot-- For help with configuring timezones in MediaWiki, please consult . [05:52:18] no no, I wanted actual timezones, phooey [05:52:30] silly bot [05:53:15] 'snot so much a bot, more an echo chamber [05:54:07] the java-based linky does timezones in answer to that command. I dunno which bot this is [05:54:14] but clearly the wrong one :-P [05:55:31] Wikilinker? [05:56:23] http://djini.de/software/linky/ this one is the one I was thinking of [05:58:16] oh my apoligies sparkla and mwbot: my computer crashed when you answered....missed your answers [05:58:33] well, I'm trying to figure out why pictures cannot shown in thumbnails [05:58:42] I installed mediawiki locally to my MAMP [06:04:06] *siumuimui_ downloading Imagemagick; think she hasn't got that in the MAMP package [06:07:37] 03jan * r50115 10/USERINFO/jan: Add USERINFO for svn commiter jan [06:19:48] 03aaron * r50117 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/maintenance/updateStats.inc: force index broken on new wikis due to index renaming of revision table [06:33:06] 03demon * r50118 10/USERINFO/jan: eol-style [06:33:37] !ask [06:33:37] --mwbot-- Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. See also: !gethelp [06:33:46] !gethelp [06:33:46] --mwbot-- Please read http://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc for a good explanation of getting help on IRC. [06:45:58] Hi...do any of you know how to install ImageMagick to the server? [06:46:10] I've checked, I dont' have ImageMagick installed yet :( [06:46:22] and I searched around, and the command lines are a bit.....complicated... [06:46:34] I shall be grateful if anyone can point out how to do it. thanks [06:49:12] chuck: why? I hate special:allmessages :o [06:56:55] oh between [06:57:22] I'd love to know if it is possible to move the wiki to new domain [06:57:30] let's say my domain now is wiki.example.com [06:57:47] and then i wanna move this wiki to my new domain which is new-example.com [06:58:06] any instructions you can refer me to, thanks. i've been googling without a good result. [06:59:43] !move [06:59:43] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Moving_a_wiki [07:00:18] thanks @marybelle I'm actually reading the apge [07:02:15] oh, i think this is basically easy [07:02:17] ok got it. [07:02:19] thank [07:02:30] i really love the way how mediawiki is constructed [07:02:36] i wish to use it as my log file. [07:23:25] *siumuimui_ impatiently waiting the download of imagemagick to be completed [07:25:37] sorry again [07:25:42] how to upload the logo image? [07:25:50] !logo [07:25:50] --mwbot-- The logo that appears in the top left of each page is determined by $wgLogo in the LocalSettings.php file. To change this you simply change the value of $wgLogo to point to the URL of your own logo. See for more information. Be sure $wgLogo is set to an absolute path, starting with "/" (or a protocol "http:"/"https:"). If you are using pretty URLs a relative path will behave oddly. [07:25:56] or say, where to set $wplogo [07:26:56] LocalSettings.php [07:27:08] (as for all settings) [07:28:26] yup...i added $wplogo [07:28:30] wglogo [07:28:40] well, this tag is not included inside my localsettings.php [07:28:42] strange [07:29:04] this is normal [07:29:24] ialex ok, got it [07:29:35] for all settings see includes/DefaultSettings.php [07:29:42] now i really have to check out how to install Imagemagick to MAMP [07:29:52] oh...ok. thanks ialex sorry to be asking a bunch of question [07:29:58] this is first time to i use mediawiki [07:31:53] should i add this line to localsettings.php? $wgLogo ="{$wgStylePath}/common/images/logo.png"; [07:32:19] no [07:32:25] or replace "/common/images/logo.png" with my path? [07:32:50] http://pruebita.com/conf/LocalSettings.php [07:32:55] Example LocalSettings.php ^ [07:34:10] Marybelle I got it completely!! [07:34:12] thanks [07:34:26] :-) [07:35:41] haha [07:35:44] it works... [07:35:55] well, i really love mediawiki...the way how it works over to blog.. [07:36:06] it's more labour of love like coding... [07:40:20] 03ialex * r50119 10/trunk/extensions/TSPoll/ (README TSPoll.i18n.php TSPoll.php http.func.php): [07:40:20] Fixes to TSPoll extension: [07:40:20] * changed description message from 'descript_msg' to 'tspoll-desc' to avoid possible conflicting messages names [07:40:20] * removed ?> from http.func.php, was throwing warnings since there was a space after it [07:40:20] * code style tweaks [07:40:22] * svn:eol-style native [07:40:26] Note: maybe use Http::get() rather than the http_w class in http.func.php [07:43:54] 03ialex * r50120 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: ...and add TSPoll to Translate [07:44:33] 03shinjiman * r50121 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Change to show the checkout revision number by default in Special:Version, per Code Review on r50106. [07:55:53] 03(mod) Strange spacing before [[irc:...]] links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18207 (10ahmad.m.sherif) [07:56:41] I noticed that! [07:56:49] I thought it was browser quirkiness. [07:57:34] http://toolserver.org/~vvv/sulutil.php?user=Registrycleanerreviews [07:58:14] Hmm? [07:58:16] 747 rows [07:58:18] Fuck you MediaWiki... [07:58:45] splarka-gaussian <-- Clearly I'm tired... [07:58:59] wat [07:59:08] I did before too. [07:59:17] Did it. [07:59:34] >_> [07:59:40] I need fewer or more drugs. [07:59:42] http://toolserver.org/~mzmcbride/splarka-gaussian-bukkake-2.txt [07:59:46] There are your results. [07:59:55] did what? miscapitalized my name? [08:00:03] Misspelled. [08:00:18] Oh. [08:00:30] oh, yah [08:00:34] it is 'Sparkla' [08:00:39] 03ialex * r50122 10/trunk/extensions/TSPoll/TSPoll.php: ...and forgot to add the path to $wgExtensionCredits [08:00:43] You've got me going crazy. [08:00:52] <3 [08:01:00] but you like it [08:01:11] How long ... [08:01:48] 20 minutes. [08:01:51] Girl, you crazy. [08:01:56] <3 [08:02:06] *Sparkla was bored [08:04:06] *siumuimui_ is painting [08:08:53] I have a wikimedia problem... [08:09:51] I think it might be frame related... [08:10:05] http://pymblesoftware.com/wiki/wiki-bad-skin.png [08:10:22] http://pymblesoftware.com/wiki/wiki-good-skin.png [08:11:00] The monobook skin puts stuff under the images and the other skins are OK. [08:11:41] I want to use mediawiki as an intranet resource only.. just for personal use... [08:12:00] any ideas plz..? [08:15:21] reganrussell, this is me too [08:15:32] for personal use only...and installed locally on my hardrive [08:16:54] does it appear correctly in other web browsers [08:17:32] ? [08:30:53] 03(mod) Update fixUserRegistration.php to use newuserlog (where available, prior to r12207), and gaussian estimates for the fossils - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18638 (10herd) [08:38:14] <__8472> hi, is it possible to create user account a different way like just only by this? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Logging_in#Creating_an_account [08:40:57] 03jan * r50123 10/trunk/extensions/TSPoll/TSPoll.i18n.php: Update i18n file [09:53:58] 03(NEW) $wgStylePath does not default to "/wiki/skins/ " - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18650 major; Normal; MediaWiki: Installation; (budmaddock) [09:57:04] 03nikerabbit * r50124 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/transstat.php: Rename $wgOut to $output to avoid collision, wfDebug expects $wgOut to be OutputPage object [10:15:04] I am considering playing with main.css in the skin/monobook directory... I am NOT a CSS person but monobook looks like crap on my installaion.. http://pymblesoftware.com/wiki/wiki-bad-skin.png [10:15:07] http://pymblesoftware.com/wiki/wiki-bad-skin.png [10:15:14] I am pulling my hair out. [10:15:27] better to edit on-site MediaWiki:Monobook.css [10:15:42] main.css is a core file, and if you edit it, upgrading will be harder, requiring manual merge [10:16:09] have you seen the image in the link...? [10:16:27] (I can't count the number of times people come here for help for messed up styles after an upgrade, and after a half hour they admit "oh, I edited main.css"... which means the main.css didn't upgrade) [10:16:42] heh [10:16:49] that looks like MSIE5 without IEfixes [10:16:54] This is brand new install .... [10:17:02] 03(mod) Update fixUserRegistration.php to use newuserlog (where available, prior to r12207), and gaussian estimates for the fossils - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18638 (10happy-melon) [10:17:17] why would you edit main.css? fix the real problem instead [10:17:19] I have 4 racks of machines here ... I haven't touched Windows in years.. [10:17:56] I haven't even seen MSIE5 in years. [10:18:25] anyway, don't edit main.css, if you must edit CSS edit a page called [[MediaWiki:Main.css]] (when you need css) [10:20:29] http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ie5fixes.jpg http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ie5nofixes.jpg <- heh, that is just what it reminded me of (it won't be any help to you though) [10:20:54] This is really disappoint unfinished looking software... I did "yum install" on a LinuxPPC box and the image in that link is what I get.. [10:21:18] there's your first mistake... do a proper install, not a crappy package [10:26:25] 03(mod) Duplicate names $wgAddGroups et al should be removed not to confuse Special:ListGroupRights display - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18648 (10N/A) [10:31:39] Splarka: that's why classic skin should be the default :-> [10:31:42] or simple, even [10:31:50] myskin [10:32:34] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BlankPage?useskin=myskin [10:33:14] I have edited LocalSettings.php for default skin ="classic"; [10:43:54] 03(NEW) hewiktionary pages-articles.xml dump corrupted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18651 major; Normal; MediaWiki: Database; (iorsh) [10:49:51] 03nikerabbit * r50125 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * Hack for checkLanguage.php to work without database [11:08:01] 03(mod) Duplicate names $wgAddGroups et al should be removed not to confuse Special:ListGroupRights display - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18648 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [11:16:10] hey [11:17:04] cffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffghjkl�� [11:17:05] �lkjhgfdsdfghjkl [11:17:07] poiuzftdrsadfghjkl [11:18:07] oiuzfgdsfghjkl� [11:18:46] need something? [11:19:02] crack [11:19:33] have you checked google maps? see the "show me drug dealers in my area" icon [11:19:49] h�� [11:22:24] guess he found some [11:38:08] 03(NEW) Logo change for mk.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18652 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (spacebirdy) [11:43:29] I give on monobook... How do I add a skin that I just downloaded...? [11:44:05] monobook is fine--your install is broken. as i said, ditch the rpm and do a proper install [11:45:44] 03(mod) Logo change for mk.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18652 +comment (10ahmad.m.sherif) [11:45:57] I don't have time for this... I don't want to spend all my time messing with this software, I need something that works out of the box... I do not want to be compiling and fixing bugs on the fly over and over.. I am fucking stressed out [11:46:41] you might want to relax ) [11:47:02] mediawiki doesn't need to be compiled, it's written in PHP. and you've spent hours at a problem caused by your broken RPM, that doesn't exist in a proper install of mediawiki [11:47:15] (which takes 5 minutes to install, if that) [11:47:36] !install [11:47:36] --mwbot-- Installing MediaWiki takes between 10 and 30 minutes, and involves uploading/copying files and running the installer script to configure the software. Full instructions can be found in the INSTALL file supplied in the distribution archive. An installation manual can also be found at . See also: !download [11:49:22] but i guess if you insist on using the rpm, you can spend a few more hours trying to fix the stuff it broke... doesn't bother me ;) [12:06:14] I installed cavendish and it looks much much better... I couldn't be bothered anymore I have real work to do. [12:45:27] i'm trying to troubleshoot a problematic extension (SSLAuth), but even though I turned all error reporting on, there is no record of an error when an error occurs [12:46:22] !errors | listrophy [12:46:22] --mwbot-- listrophy: To see PHP errors, add this to the very top of LocalSettings.php: error_reporting(E_ALL); ini_set("display_errors", 1); Fatal PHP errors usually go to Apache's error log - also check the error_log setting in php.ini (or use phpinfo). For more details in wiki error reports, set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; $wgShowSQLErrors = true; For full debug output, set $wgDebugLogFile to some path you like. [12:46:30] Maybe you read/did that already; just to be sure [12:48:08] RoanKattouw: yeah, read it. did it [12:48:29] No errors in the browser window or in the Apache error log? [12:48:40] RoanKattouw: correct... other than a favicon error [12:49:56] What's your problem with SSLAuth then? [12:50:07] hrm. maybe i'll turn off caching [12:50:19] when clicking on a red link, I get a blank page [12:50:30] absolutely zero output [12:50:44] :O and the errors associated with that blank page are nowhere to be seen? [12:50:53] RoanKattouw: yup [12:50:54] Did you run update.php ? [12:51:00] uh... nope [12:51:30] 404 on update.php [12:52:07] ooh! an error! [12:52:09] That's necessary after each upgrade and sometimes after installing an extension [12:52:18] listrophy: You're supposed to run it from the command line [12:52:44] i turned off caching and got a memory limit error... at least i'm going somewhere now [12:52:50] RoanKattouw: copy that [12:54:01] ugh. my slice is at it's memory's end [12:54:15] ? [12:54:25] and apparently i haven't had enough coffee yet... i don't make mistakes like that... s/it's/its/ [12:54:32] heh [12:54:57] RoanKattouw: i'm running it on a virtual server at slicehost.... running out of ram [12:55:08] a "slice," if you will [12:55:26] Right [12:57:58] 03(NEW) Links to user and talk page on the list of unflagged revs shouldn't be blue if there is no such page. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18653 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (thogol) [13:04:12] hello room [13:07:09] "Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 20971520 bytes exhausted" [13:07:25] but php.ini gives 40M to php [13:08:05] listrophy: There's an ini_set('memory_limit', '20M'); in LocalSettings.php probably [13:08:26] RoanKattouw: argh. you're right [13:08:51] super-hyper-awesomeness! it works! [13:09:06] hello, when I load my wiki in FF3/Mac, and I edit a page, the submit does not work. It only goes to a blonk page. Any hints? [13:09:11] thanks RoanKattouw [13:09:37] !blankpage | fulld [13:09:37] --mwbot-- fulld: A blank page usually indicates a fatal PHP error. See !error [13:09:38] *listrophy is slightly ashamed he couldn't figure it out on his own [13:09:47] !error [13:09:47] --mwbot-- For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [13:10:14] fulld: uh... you may be running out of memory! [13:10:36] ouch, I hate memory [13:11:04] also, I'm on sourceforge, that may have something to do with it [13:11:17] fulld: literally just solved your same problem... blank page. turned out to be hitting the mem ceiling [13:11:52] fulld: no. memory allocated to the server, not necessarily the computer's full complement of ram [13:12:21] fulld: or are you trying to run mediawiki *on* sf? [13:12:29] PHP has a memory_limit configuration variable, which may be low in some setups [13:12:35] its just on my project page [13:12:42] It's like 16M by default, which is too low [13:12:42] thanks I'm trying that now [13:15:36] php has a memory limit, and mediawiki tends to change it [13:17:22] listrophy: I just upped it to 32 and fail [13:17:34] fulld: ouch [13:17:44] fulld: There might be a line in LocalSettings.php overriding it [13:17:51] fulld: what RoanKattouw said [13:17:52] and I removed antispam and perserunctions, my only extensions [13:17:53] Something like ini_set('memory_limit', '20M'); [13:18:52] RoanKattouw: perhaps this discussion could be condensed into a !mem command to mwbot? [13:18:58] Yeah [13:19:35] something like: check both php.ini and LocalSettings for a low memory_limit. It should be at least 'XXM' [13:20:00] sorry I missed that, yes I fixed that line and now its just stalling [13:21:23] !memory is PHP [13:21:23] --mwbot-- Successfully added keyword: memory [13:21:25] oops [13:21:28] !memory del [13:21:28] --mwbot-- Successfully removed keyword: memory [13:23:25] !memory is If you're getting out-of-memory errors, raise PHP's memory limit to 20M or 40M. The memory limit is set in php.ini (as memory_limit) and possibly overridden in LocalSettings.php with ini_set('memory_limit', '20M'); [13:23:25] --mwbot-- Successfully added keyword: memory [13:23:46] now who will remember that [13:23:53] I have an article page that takes too long for PHP to render within 30 seconds, how would one address that, via offline-tools maybe rather than increasing the time limit? [13:24:40] lch: Try installing APC to speed up script execution? [13:24:48] Splarka: Who will remember what? [13:24:48] already did that [13:25:01] RoanKattouw: who is Splarka? [13:25:36] !memlimit alias memory [13:25:36] --mwbot-- Successfully added alias: memlimit [13:26:00] Thanks guys, this is working now. I just had to have a cup a coffee after changing the mem limit, rather than expecting immediate results [13:26:03] alias !mem [13:26:11] !mem [13:26:11] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "mem". You might try: !memcached !memory [13:26:21] That's why I didn't do that (because of !memcached) [13:26:26] ah [13:26:26] Next question. Can I get a list of all pages on the wiki, sort of like a * category? [13:26:32] fulld: Special:Allpages [13:26:39] damn. beat me to it [13:26:58] fulld: lots of cool pages in Special:SpecialPages [13:27:18] oh wow! this is great [13:27:52] RoanKattouw, you could've said API ;) [13:28:15] heh [13:28:24] tbh... im suprised you didnt :P [13:29:36] !bug 18003 [13:29:36] --mwbot-- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18003 [13:29:43] RoanKattouw, i thought you fixed that uner another bug nubmer? [13:29:49] or was it something similar.. [13:30:02] *under another bug number [13:30:02] No [13:30:08] It's a bug in the extension [13:30:37] But come to think of it I could probably fix it [13:30:44] I know that, but i thought it had been fixed.. [13:31:11] meh [13:35:33] 03catrope * r50126 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQuerySiteinfo.php): API: Add PHP and database version to meta=siteinfo output [13:40:01] 03catrope * r50127 10/trunk/extensions/OpenSearchXml/ApiOpenSearchXml.php: OpenSearchXml: (bug 18003) action=opensearch help shows "format - " [13:40:05] 03(FIXED) action=opensearch documentation in API help shows "format -" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18003 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [13:40:21] Reedy: There you go -----^^ [13:41:26] lool [13:41:28] ty [13:43:05] 03aaron * r50128 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LogEventsList.php: Fixed total log breakage due to type safety issues [13:49:32] AaronSchulz: want it merged in i guess [13:55:51] has anyone thought of interfacing the mediawiki api with git? so I could write mediawiki pages in my editor of choice, save temporary copies often, and commit through the api? [13:57:14] wouldn't be suprised if someone had thought of it [13:58:39] s/thought/implemented the idea/ [13:59:23] haven't heard of it [14:00:11] ok. i'll just wait then. someone is bound to do it. =) [14:00:16] *listrophy waits [14:00:18] listrophy: I think there's an extension to do that with subversion... [14:00:22] or do it yourself? ;) [14:00:35] Reedy: bah! couldn't be bothered [14:00:39] haha [14:00:53] eh. i've just got so much on my plate right now, it's ridiculous [14:01:00] listrophy: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WebDAV [14:03:29] subversion is one of those pieces of software that i have an extremely minimal working knowledge of, and desire to learn precisely no more [14:08:08] 03(mod) Wikimedia setup interfering with API maxage and smaxage parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14402 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [14:11:52] Hi, is someone here who knows how the mysql query for the "Last change" Page is or where I can find it? [14:12:19] In the code [14:12:54] Gnoxter: You mean Special:Recentchanges? All that data is in the recentchanges table [14:14:02] Exactly I mean [14:14:17] You mean the query to display it? [14:14:24] /get the data? [14:14:47] includes/RecentChange.php i suspect [14:15:06] SELECT * FROM recentchanges ORDER BY rc_timestamp DESC LIMIT 50; should give you the last 50 changes [14:15:13] *werdna is almost dead from exhaustion [14:15:28] werdna: In SF already? [14:15:32] no [14:15:34] still in sydney [14:15:37] lol [14:15:41] flight leaves for LA in 10 hours [14:15:44] You were up till 4 AM earlier [14:15:48] been tiring myself our so I can sleep on the plane [14:15:53] And now it's 11 PM or so right? [14:15:56] 5am last night [14:15:59] it's now 12:15 [14:16:08] planning on staying up another hour or few [14:16:19] How much did you sleep last night? :P [14:16:25]