[00:00:00] there or there-abouts [00:00:12] give or take a couple of weeks [00:06:43] Such precision. [00:12:34] :D [00:12:50] it's hard interpreting a trendline when the only gridlines are in yearly intervals [00:15:15] so get random samples [00:16:53] yeah, that might have been a better idea rather than the entire lot [00:17:24] I'd just map commits per day for the past few months and extrapolate. [00:17:34] 50k: Apr 28, 49k: Mar 29, 48k: Mar 3 [00:17:35] anyway, I'll concentrate on it tomorrow [00:17:49] Marybelle: also mapping out the trend of increasing the number of devs [00:18:19] Marybelle: I drew a graph of the commits after 30k, and applied a linear trendline [00:18:26] Eh, I don't see a strong correlation there. At least not to phase3 development, though commit count changes regardless of where.... [00:18:42] (To Splarka.) [00:18:55] which has a correlation coefficient of 0.9982 with the real data, so it's close enough [00:19:13] ... to say "sometime in December, maybe kinda"? [00:19:14] :P [00:19:54] well, given that it depends on when someone decides to push "Commit" it's a bit variable anyway [00:21:52] oi [00:26:36] after setting up $wgConf my Common.css is empty. is anyone familiar with $wgConf and could look at this code? it's quite short: http://pastebin.ca/1410795 [00:31:24] OK, reading it a bit more accurately reveals 327.75 days [00:32:38] = 23rd november [00:33:04] aib: was it unempty before? [00:36:59] Good evening. Is there a method/interface/package/whatever that allows a mediawiki article to pull content from a database? [00:37:19] What kind of database? [00:37:30] mySQL? Simple schema. [00:38:50] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DataInvoker [00:38:55] Basically, I maintain almost all of my site in mediawiki. I have a list of restaurants with locations and food fare that I'd like to pull into a page. The page will have several different views (alphabetical, distance from home, food type), and rather than have to maintain that in three separate pages or sections, I'd like to pull the content from a database. [00:39:25] mmm, you might want SemanticMediawiki then [00:39:29] !hesaidsemantic | Splarka [00:39:29] --mwbot-- Splarka: http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/576/hesaidsemanticga2.jpg [00:40:07] k4jcw: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_MediaWiki [00:40:20] Splarka, yes it was.. [00:40:32] err, no it wasn't. [00:40:36] sort of lets you turns pages into a library cross-referenced database definitions, or something [00:40:46] it's got a whack of stuff in it. [00:40:56] so the wiki doesn't render correctly, although the content is there [00:41:08] aib: can you paste the that was loading it? [00:41:11] Yea, and that has a pretty site-wide impact, IIRC. [00:41:25] Switching to the semantic version, I mean. [00:41:33] aib: ahh, do you mean /monobook/main.css and/or other skins? or do you mean MediaWiki:Common.css ? [00:42:00] k4jcw yah, so probably browse http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Data_extraction_extensions and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Database_extensions [00:42:37] Cool. That's a great start. Thanks! [00:42:42] Splarka, [00:43:20] mmm, and it looks like your scriptpath is now null? [00:43:41] oop, no.. name of the wiki in question [00:44:05] so what happens if you go to: /emergent/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&usemsgcache=yes&ctype=text%2Fcss&smaxage=18000&action=raw&maxage=18000 ? [00:44:32] Splarka, http://grey.colorado.edu/emergent/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&usemsgcache=yes&ctype=text%2Fcss&smaxage=18000&action=raw&maxage=18000 [00:45:15] now i turned off $wgConf, it's all back [00:46:40] odd [00:47:22] yeah if it were a database issue the wiki content wouldn't show up [00:49:37] hmm [00:49:47] reenable wgconf [00:49:54] done [00:52:15] missing again, hmm [00:52:26] heh [00:52:28] I detect [00:52:30] http://grey.colorado.edu/emergent/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&ctype=text%2Fcss&smaxage=18000&action=raw&maxage=18000 [00:52:35] purge the message cache [00:53:25] restart memcached? [00:56:03] 03dale * r50147 10/branches/new-upload/phase3/ (6 files in 3 dirs): session upload code fixes [00:56:43] i think that's pretty indicative though thanks Splarka [00:56:46] the message cache is the cache of the translated system messages, from languages/messages and from MediaWiki: namespace on the wiki [00:57:04] it isn't synonymous with memcache, though one might be a subset of the other in certain setups (dunno) [00:57:07] i thought i put messages in memcached, although restarting it didn't fix it [01:00:51] i restarted squid and apache too. where is this dastardly cache.... [01:15:38] need some advice on setting up AdminSettings [01:15:50] I'm upgrading from 1.4 to 1.14 [01:16:18] I looked in the AdminSettings sample file and only see the settings for connecting to the db [01:16:19] set it to a db user with the ability to create/modify tables on your wiki's database [01:16:34] what about all of the other settings that were previously in LocalSettings? [01:16:42] uh, don't bother [01:16:54] AdminSettings is only for connecting to the db with a more-privelaged user [01:17:10] LocalSettings gets loaded as well for all maintenance scripts (such as update.php) [01:17:16] what about stuff like wgSiteName, etc... [01:17:36] just leave it with the settings that the sample has listed [01:17:43] don't make this more complicated than it needs to be :) [01:17:46] LocalSettings.php moves between versions. [01:18:05] ok - so just setup the db user and then run the upgrade tool>? [01:18:12] I suppose I should backup first [01:18:13] You don't need to do anything with it except make sure it ends up in the proper directory after you update the config files. [01:18:19] Yes, you definitely should. [01:18:34] the proper directory being root of mediawiki tree right? [01:18:46] Yes. [01:19:18] is there even a tarball around to downgrade back to 1.4 if I run into a problem anyway? [01:19:32] aib: sorry, was afk, try /maintenance/rebuildmessages.php [01:21:57] Splarka, I set $wgLocalMessageCache and found a bug which is that the $wgConf message file doesn't have the language. it's 'messages-pdpwiki-' instead of 'messages-pdpwiki-en'. i set lang=en in all cases but no luck [01:22:14] odd [01:22:39] the first line of 'messages-pdpwiki-en' and 'messages-pdpwiki-' are both a cache hash for Common.css and both hashes are identical [01:22:56] http://grey.colorado.edu/emergent/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&usemsgcache=yes&ctype=text%2Fcss&smaxage=18000&action=raw&maxage=18000 is loading now, did you disable wgConf again? [01:23:08] yes, it's re-enabled now [01:23:50] mmm, dunno then [01:30:07] is the upgrade tool going to work on a mysql 4 db? [01:30:19] It should. [01:41:03] http://rafb.net/p/nSX9p472.html [01:41:20] I think I'm missing some mysql permissions on the db user, but not sure what [01:42:18] anyone? [01:50:48] jetsaredim: check the owner? [01:51:34] yea - needed more permissions for the db user [01:51:40] it's chugging along now [01:51:57] and I can now access pages without getting db errors exploding all over the place [01:53:44] jetsaredim: http://rafb.net/p/quAuGU90.html here's what I have [01:54:40] saper: that's what you have for what? [01:56:19] for my user [01:56:37] select * from db where user = 'myuser' \G [01:56:49] ah ok [01:57:01] connected to 'mysql' database; [01:57:12] yea [01:57:48] where do I manage groups (sysop) etc [01:58:59] I want to not be the admin of this wiki anymore [02:00:39] :) [02:00:58] I left the group this wiki is for about 3 years ago [02:01:22] no one had maintained the machine in that amount of time especially not mediawiki [02:04:44] so my friend that still works in that group was bugging me about admin rights [02:04:45] since they had such an old install of mediawiki, none of the docs applied, so I needed to update tons of stuff on the machine to get it to be able to run mediawiki [02:04:45] pita [02:10:56] I don't seem to have any pages listed on the special pages page under restricted special pages - that seems like a bad thing [02:19:41] Hi, I'm looking to embed an entire wiki within an iframe. Is there a plugin to simply output the page content without the navigations, etc, or should I use another skin with http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PersistUseskin ? [02:20:53] there is action=render, but that includes no css/js [02:21:33] Hmm. [02:21:44] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar?action=render [02:22:10] Yeah, but that's just the rendered content, not a fully-fledged HTML page. [02:22:33] yah, but you could supply the as you need [02:22:49] I'm probably better going with a custom skin. [02:23:54] probably ^_^ [02:24:18] 03(mod) Admins should see a warning when in process of overruling a move protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18466 (10nakonwiki) [02:24:25] 03(mod) Admins should see a warning when in process of overruling a move protection - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18466 +patch (10nakonwiki) [02:24:54] is there any way to add a keyword and a patch in the same commit? [02:25:30] dont think [02:26:41] how do I get rid of the message about setting $wgLogo? I just want the default flower image [02:27:26] the message is part of the image [02:27:32] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:MediaWiki_logo_without_tagline.png [02:28:12] that one isn't the default, but you can use it ^_^ [02:29:22] Splarka: so just save it locally or reference it in the LocalSettings [02:31:28] nakon: do you wanna do a similar one? When admins override title blacklist they never see a warning [02:32:15] jetsaredim: either way ya want [02:32:21] Mike_lifeguard: sure, i'll take a look [02:32:31] sweeeeet [02:32:44] I'll grab the bug # for you.. [02:33:05] Splarka: guaranteed to stay there? [02:33:37] nakon: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13780 (presumably that applies to all the new things titleblacklist blocks, like account creations with , or editing when using ) [02:34:04] jetsaredim: don't hotlink [02:34:29] I mean, you can either replace the default logo file in your /skins folder with this, /or/ put it there as another file name and reference that in your localsettings [02:34:37] kk [02:36:02] Splarka: hrm - have this already set... $wgLogo = "$wgStylePath/common/images/wiki.png"; [02:36:14] yes [02:36:16] so you have two choices [02:36:33] 1) save the http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:MediaWiki_logo_without_tagline.png over wiki.png and do nothing else [02:36:47] 2) save it as /common/images/SOMEOTHERFILENAME.png and set it in $wgLogo [02:38:09] i did #1 [02:38:13] but don't see the change [02:38:38] whoops - nm [02:38:42] browser cache [02:39:17] any ideas why I don't see any special pages under restricted special pages? [02:41:20] Are you logged in as the sysop? [02:41:34] my user is listed on the sysop page [02:42:17] ?title=Special:ListUsers&group=sysop I'm listed along with wikisysop [02:43:40] well, there aren't really that many on a vanilla install for just sysops [02:43:50] are you a bureaucrat? can you see "User rights management" ? [02:44:55] ahh - no not bureaucrat [02:45:02] how can I set that? [02:46:40] !rightssql [02:46:40] --mwbot-- INSERT INTO user_groups (ug_user, ug_group) VALUES ('1', 'bureaucrat'); Where '1' is your user ID, and 'bureaucrat' is the right you wish to apply. [02:46:54] or set 'userrights' true for sysop temporarily [02:51:52] ok cool - works now [02:51:55] awesome [02:52:09] thanks for your help Splarka [02:52:14] rar [02:52:27] s/rar/zip/ [02:52:35] !rar | rmccue [02:52:35] --mwbot-- rmccue: rar [02:52:51] Heh. [02:53:34] http://toolserver.org/~mzmcbride/cgi-bin/mw-logs.py?search=%3Csplarka%3E%09rar [04:11:37] 03(mod) Admins don't see when page creations match against the blacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13780 (10nakonwiki) [04:12:04] 03(mod) Admins don't see when page creations match against the blacklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13780 +patch (10nakonwiki) [04:12:31] Mike_lifeguard: worked out an initial patch [04:13:07] wow, that was fast :D [04:14:55] it's kind of basic now, i'll see about extending its functionality later (almost time for bed now) [04:15:33] past my bedtime already :) [04:18:28] *qsheets refuses to go to bed [04:18:56] *qsheets also refuses to type... much [04:31:48] How do I define my own accessibility shortcuts (i.e., alt-shift-R for Recent changes) ? [04:33:44] check languages/messages/MessagesEn.php for messages starting with 'accesskey' for hints [04:35:04] 'accesskey-n-recentchanges' => 'r', [04:35:17] which means on-wiki you'd edit MediaWiki:'accesskey-n-recentchanges [04:35:26] er, MediaWiki:Accesskey-n-recentchanges even [04:48:45] 03(NEW) New logo for iowikt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18658 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (wyvernoid) [05:22:45] 03nicdumz * r50148 10/trunk/tools/slayerd/slayerd.cc: Adding full commandline with arguments from /proc/pid/cmdline to email. [05:23:21] flyingparchment, that should do the trick ^ [05:28:43] looks reasonable, now we just need someone to test it [05:29:20] hmm. [05:29:42] except that my /prod/$pid/cmdline doesn't seem to be enclosed in () [05:30:16] it isnt [05:30:24] oic [05:30:37] you added the comment, not the code ;) [05:30:39] just added comments for your previous code :) [05:30:58] but this will only read the first word of the command [05:31:18] I tried with a dummy script [05:31:24] it reads everything for me [05:31:38] mm. [05:31:43] no. [05:31:46] hm.. maybe it's different for processes that call setproctitle [05:32:03] <20> rriver@nightshade:~/slayerd>cat /proc/30732/cmdline | tr '\0' x (1 job) [05:32:07] /bin/shx-cxnice python /home/nicdumz/pywikipedia/statistiques.py > /home/nicdumz/stats.log 2>&1 || cat /home/nicdumz/stats.logx% [05:32:26] the real arguments are separated by \0, but some of them have actual spaces in [05:32:43] soo... because there are spaces, it stops [05:33:32] rriver@nightshade:~/slayerd>svn diff (1 job) [05:33:33] svn: Error at entry 13 in entries file for 'debian': [05:33:33] svn: Bogus date [05:33:35] what? [05:33:46] uhhh. [05:35:29] huh [05:36:25] 03river * r50149 10/trunk/tools/slayerd/ (debian/changelog slayerd.cc): [05:36:25] - 1.6 [05:36:25] - use getline instead of >> so we read the entire command line [05:38:49] 03river * r50150 10/trunk/tools/slayerd/ (Makefile debian/files debian/slayerd.substvars slayerd.8): [05:38:49] - include missing manual page [05:38:49] - update makefile version [05:39:17] on a side note [05:39:38] 03river * r50151 10/trunk/tools/slayerd/slayerd.cc: change the mail format slightly [05:40:06] why are those std::string sline allocated on each block? [05:40:56] now they aren't [05:41:05] 03river * r50152 10/trunk/tools/slayerd/slayerd.cc: remove dead code [05:41:10] :) [05:41:30] "where's the trick?" [05:41:46] okay, i installed the new one on nightshade [05:41:55] good! thank you :) [05:42:39] grrrr, my image thumbnails stopped working for some reason [05:42:53] i think that's the first time i said '... but someone else could do it', and someone actually did [05:43:02] most users are happy to complain but don't like actual work ;) [05:43:48] oh well :) [05:45:01] that might be because I also get complained to [05:46:32] =)) [05:47:30] you don't want to mmap when slayerd is running .. ;-) [05:47:54] like any of our users even know what mmap is... [05:48:38] interwiki.py ? [05:48:43] it's like mmap, right? [05:48:49] =)) [05:48:52] 03philip * r50153 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Update the Chinese conversion tables. [07:11:53] 03(mod) MySQL-specific queries in /profileinfo.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6802 (10karun) [07:18:48] 03(mod) MySQL-specific queries in /profileinfo.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6802 lowest->normal; -need-review (10karun) [07:19:04] heeheee [07:19:07] someone uses database profiler? [07:19:27] sometimes :) [07:19:33] 03(mod) MySQL-specific queries in /profileinfo.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6802 15enhancement->normal; +need-review (10karun) [07:19:44] 'sometimes' people should just use ProfilerSimpleText ;-) [07:19:48] i dont use it much, but i would like to improve postgresql support [07:19:52] for mediawiki [07:20:14] and it appears to be a simple bug to fix, when i am just starting [07:20:25] 03(mod) MySQL-specific queries in /profileinfo.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6802 +postgresql (10alex.emsenhuber) [07:31:03] 03(mod) EditPage.php needs rewrite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18654 (10niklas.laxstrom) [08:12:57] 03ialex * r50154 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.hooks.php: Compatibility with PHP 5.3: removed references from arguments that aren't passed by reference when calling wfRunHooks() [08:28:15] 03(mod) Special:Log on en.wikipedia giving database error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18657 +comment (10domas.mituzas) [08:28:26] 03ialex * r50155 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (4 files): Interaction beetween Configure and Farmer: Special:Farmer/admin will now link to Special:Configure and Special:Extensions [08:46:44] how is 'markbotedits' utilized? [08:49:54] you mean what does it do? [08:51:09] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Splarka?bot=1 [08:51:28] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights [08:51:33] > Mark rolled-back edits as bot edits (markbotedits) [08:52:28] it used to be, only sysops could rollback, but when the rollback right was divorced from sysops, it became necessary to make a separate right for bot (hidden) rollback [08:53:03] what it does: rollback links on Special:Contributions with ?bot=1 get bot=1 in the parameter [08:53:28] and if you have the 'markbotedits' right, that rollback will be marked as +bot, and so will the original edits you're rolling back [08:53:40] this hides a spammer or vandal from recent changes [10:53:38] 04(REOPENED) RSS feed link should have silly orange icon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3043 +comment (10danny.b) [11:13:36] 03siebrand * r50156 10/trunk/extensions/TSPoll/ (TSPoll.i18n.php TSPoll.php): [11:13:36] * tweak message text [11:13:36] * stylize.php, indentation updates, removed trailing whitespace [11:13:37] 03(mod) CSS (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12788 (10danny.b) [11:13:40] 03(mod) CSS-added icons next to links display through the text and makes it unreadable in RTL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1061 (10danny.b) [11:13:43] 03(mod) Strange spacing before [[irc:...]] links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18207 (10danny.b) [12:11:38] Hello everyone! [12:12:18] I need some help with MediaWiki, is that understood? [12:12:46] !ask | Alcazalamander [12:12:46] --mwbot-- Alcazalamander: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. See also: !gethelp [12:13:40] I have taken som code from a Wikia Wiki, and in that code "#if{ }" is used, very simmilar to PHP. I guess I need an extension to get it to work, but which? [12:13:56] !e ParserFunctions [12:13:56] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions [12:14:59] That is the best thing I have heard ever! [12:15:26] I love you! [12:18:53] You are maybe currious if it worked? [12:18:58] It did! [12:38:29] 03ialex * r50157 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/MagicWord.php maintenance/parserTests.txt): (log message trimmed) [12:38:29] Cleanup in MagicWord::$mVariableIDs, removed IDs that aren't handled in Parser::getVariableValue(). [12:38:29] Side effect: Removed "Pages in namespace (Magic word disabled currently)" parser [12:38:29] test added in r17687 by nickj (was passing; I know). The problem is that the [12:38:30] expected result is an empty string, but since it's disabled by default with [12:38:32] $wgAllowSlowParserFunctions = false (i.e. not added to parser's list of magic [12:38:34] words IDs) it should return a red link to [[Template:PAGESINNAMESPACE:]] (the [12:56:00] is it just me or are your version numbers screwy? mediawiki.org says the latest release is "1.14.0" but your old php4 release is "1.6.12" [12:56:14] 14 > 6 [12:56:34] oh [12:56:35] heh [12:56:43] nm, i should get more sleep [12:56:47] i read it as 1-4 [12:56:48] >_> [12:56:58] thanks >_> [12:57:22] all problems can be solved with math [13:25:54] morning [13:26:28] Good afternoon :P [13:26:44] Good Evening [14:41:33] I haven't srtarted actually writing anything that uses Extension:DataInvoker, but reading the documentation, I'm unclear how you'd retrieve/display more than one item at a time. Anyone have any practical experince with this? [14:42:15] (I also wish the authors of modules, extensions, libraries, etc would at least provide one small working example of how things are supposed to work) [14:42:49] Probably the only one who knows how it works is the dude who put it up, unless it's widely used. [14:42:52] I've never heard of it. [14:43:16] Unfortunately, dude doesn't seem to have any contact information. [14:44:03] Splarka pointed me at that yesterday. [14:44:23] Yesterday for me. Maybe today or tomorrow for him. [14:44:29] *Splarka blames google [14:44:39] I gave many options though, heh [14:44:52] Smenatic is not really an option. [14:45:02] k4jcw yah, so probably browse http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Data_extraction_extensions and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Database_extensions [14:45:10] eww, that extension sounds like a Bad Idea (tm) to me. [14:45:38] Why so? [14:45:56] I'm not familiar enough with MW to have an opnion as to why it should or shouldn't be Evil Incarnate. [14:47:21] would be trivially easy to kill any site that has it installed. [14:48:25] You'd have to be able to edit pages, no? [15:05:22] 03(mod) MySQL Connection dies with error 61 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18626 (10seth) [15:05:25] hiya, I'm trying to create an extension that will interface with subversion to display the latest version (or any version) of a source file inside a Wiki page. [15:06:14] have you seen the Special:Code extension? [15:06:17] I'd like the outputted source code to be inside tags but those don't seem to get parsed when output by an extension. Is there any way to do that? [15:06:56] hmm, that should depend on what hook you use, are you making your own or your own {{#parserfunction}}, or some other method? [15:07:19] I'm making my own . [15:07:44] okay, the output of tag bypasses the main parser, the main use for this is to create things the parser might not natively allow [15:07:49] 03siebrand * r50158 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.i18n.php: Tweak Farmer extension related messages [15:07:53] such as unwhitelisted html, or preserved whitespace [15:08:06] (I'm not sure I've seen the Special:Code extension) [15:08:29] your extension might work if you simply use {{#tag:tagname|data}} [15:08:47] but you might consider rewriting it as a parser function [15:08:50] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parser_functions [15:09:07] okay I'll read into that... [15:09:26] (note that #tag won't necessarily allow the output to be parsed but allows the input to be) [15:10:05] and the code review extension is unrelated to this, but is related to interfacing with subversion, which looked like your question ^_^ [15:10:17] Splarka, another question I had was... the extension should first check in the cache whether it has already checked out a local copy of the indicated SVN file. [15:11:01] if it doesn't have a copy, it should check out the file to the cache, embed it's contents between the tags [15:11:12] does that sound do-able? [15:11:37] I saw some cache functions in the doc... [15:12:48] but none that I thought looked like good candidates to search through a hash table or something (very new to extension coding) [15:13:06] mmm, all greek to me, but check out http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CodeReview [15:13:24] does something similar (fetches diffs and caches them) [15:14:08] ah okay... I had looked into that extension before but didn't think it did what I want to do, but I can at least take a look at the code, that'd be usefull. [15:14:10] thanks! [15:14:22] check out Special:Code on the wiki [15:14:41] will do. Gracias! [15:14:44] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/49575 from http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=49575 [15:14:49] etc [15:21:03] took me about 5 minutes to realise that everyone was not indeed talking about me in the comments on Special:Code/MediaWiki/49575 :D [15:21:56] heh [15:22:27] wow that Special:Code page is pretty nifty [15:23:33] "Special". who came up with that naming anyway ;-) [15:24:20] Don't blame me, I'm only a mediawiki beginner. [15:26:36] Is it possible to see how many users use a certain Gadget? [15:26:41] magnus, probably [15:27:30] Subfader: probably some nasty sql query on the prefs blob [15:27:55] yeah it's all blobby :/ [15:28:29] domas dumped the en.wp prefs a while ago, some interesting intel, maybe ask him how he did it [15:28:38] install a backdoor (like google analytics) *hide* [15:28:49] or by having the gadget add an invisible pixel to the screen that calls up a script on the same domain that can be used to read the user's cookies to determine who they are, and then consequently log it [15:28:57] bah google analytics. slows down your site [15:29:17] but I think an SQL query would be faster in many ways :P [15:29:38] ok I thought there might be an easy way. [15:31:36] oh... SVNIntegration seems to do exactly what I want to do. [15:31:49] SVNPrintFile [15:31:49] Prints the contents of the given file using GeSHi for syntax highlighting if existent. [15:31:53] nifty [15:32:02] will contact domas. a chance at least :) [15:32:22] Subfader: better idea, ask domas to do it for you :) [15:32:38] meh [15:32:48] SELECT ... FROM ... WHERE ...prefs LIKE '%gadget%' [15:32:50] Speak of the devil [15:33:17] that easy! :) [15:38:05] indeed. just search a part of the gadget name in teh user table and gut the list of users who use it [15:38:36] well, all users who have saved prefs since the gadget was enabled will have a pref for that gadget [15:38:47] which is of course, stupid, and why werdna rewrote preferences [15:39:18] what you wanna look for is gadget-gadgetname=1 [15:39:31] (or rather, a 1 or true field or whatever it uses) [15:39:47] Subfader^ [15:40:00] oh. checking [15:40:26] on en.wp for example: [15:40:27] 4 gadget-editop=0 1 gadget-editop=1 278506 gadget-edittop=0 7740 gadget-edittop=1 [15:40:48] 278506+7740 users had saved their prefs while that edittop gadget was active [15:41:00] and 4 poor idiots saved their prefs while the typo'd version was active, heh [15:41:04] er, 5 [15:46:35] on my wiki it are less than expected :/ [15:48:27] ah so the result of -0 + -1 is the correct ammount? [15:49:11] well, that the gadget has an entry in their prefs means they've saved their prefs since you enabled the gadget, the 0/1 is disabled/enabled [15:49:28] thought so [15:50:13] I want to request Extension:UnderstandYourUsers [15:59:15] werdna [15:59:18] you around? [16:02:42] Does anyone know how to adjust the ammount of time the Abuse Filter blocks an IP for [16:07:46] Prom_cat: it appears to be hard coded [16:08:13] Prodego: Thats a "Big" problem then, especially with global filters [16:08:35] so fix it [16:08:56] Our use of a global account name filter sees spammers going from wiki to wiki getting he ip they're using (part of dynamic range) indef blocked [16:09:03] the^ [16:09:26] Prodego: Where is it hardcoded? [16:09:32] so you dont want to indefblock spammers? [16:09:41] class file [16:09:54] grep for: case 'block': [16:10:09] OverlordQ: I dont want to indef block IP's in a dynamic range attemping to create "grawp" accounts [16:11:38] haha [16:11:47] Prodego: Its not indef [16:11:56] $block->mExpiry = Block::parseExpiryInput( '1 week' ); [16:11:56]