[00:19:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Uploading office 2007 files (docx, pptx etc) results in error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18684  04BLOCKER->normal; +comment (10innocentkiller)
[00:56:53] <hangfromthefloor>	I need a little bit of help convincing one of the users of my wiki that the content she submits can be changed by anyone and doesn't belong to her.
[00:57:02] <hangfromthefloor>	For example, she started the mathematics article with "The wild seas of Mathematics, navigated by students in the whole students across the globe, and for some it unites the suffering and for other the joy!" which really isn't so helpful, which I later changed to "Mathematics is a classification of related abstract sciences which deal with the logic of quantity, shape, and arrangement." Just...
[00:57:04] <hangfromthefloor>	...now, she messaged me with "my issue is that you edit out my humor and my imagery and I also don't understand why other people create things, if you are going to completely change them"
[00:57:25] <Emachman>	Well... that's not a MediaWiki problem... but if you want a guide, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:OWN
[00:57:31] <hangfromthefloor>	Am I in the wrong..?
[00:57:43] <Mike_lifeguard>	no
[00:57:51] <Emachman>	#mediawiki is mainly for technical problems
[01:01:20] <hangfromthefloor>	Thanks Emachman, that link was quite helpful
[01:01:42] <hangfromthefloor>	(Too many policy pages on the big old wiki to swim around in)
[01:20:09] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Links in enotif change notification email should clear wl_notificationtimestamp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18689 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Email; (greenreaper)
[01:45:19] <^David>	hello, when I include WebStart.php it tries to include StartProfiler.php in my current directory
[01:45:27] <^David>	which of course doesn't exist
[02:24:01] <pfruan>	hi,all.
[02:25:11] <pfruan>	i use external authplugin as default login prog. but then there is no root/wikisysop on effect now
[02:26:01] <pfruan>	how can i use both external and internal auth.not replace
[02:26:43] <Mentifisto>	can meta templates not be marked as such in a machine generated list?
[02:27:10] <Emufarmers>	pfruan: there are a lot of auth plugins out there: what are you using?
[02:28:19] <Mike_lifeguard>	Mentifisto: could maybe be done with a custom query - try asking in #wikimedia-toolserver
[02:29:47] <Mentifisto>	Mike_lifeguard: I mean more like permanently though when editing a page shows you all the templates etc...
[02:30:10] <Mike_lifeguard>	no... a template that is transcluded is transcluded, and that's it
[02:31:12] <Mentifisto>	is mw not able to tell meta-templates from templates directly transcluded on the current page?
[02:31:30] <Mike_lifeguard>	there is no such thing - that is an artificial distinction
[02:32:15] <flyingparchment>	what is a "meta templatEe?
[02:32:15] <Mike_lifeguard>	when a template is transcluded in the page (add "at all" here if you didn't understand it before) then it is listed as being transcluded. period.
[02:32:57] <Mike_lifeguard>	like I said, you could maybe get what you're looking for from a custom query... or maybe not, I don't know, which is why I suggested asking in #wikimedia-toolserver
[02:33:06] <Mike_lifeguard>	but please do feel free to repeat yourself in here
[02:33:39] <Mentifisto>	O_o
[02:55:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add a music wikimodule - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189  (10relatividadgeneral)
[02:57:44] <CIA-15>	03aaron * r50250 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevision.php: Break some lines
[03:01:24] <pfruan>	is there any extension would autolink between categories.
[03:02:26] <pfruan>	such as i have a category named 'project',another category 'document'.and both have some sub category
[03:03:31] <pfruan>	i need each project have a  sub category in 'documnet'
[03:08:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add a music wikimodule - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189  (10relatividadgeneral)
[03:10:21] <Marybelle>	Mmmm, meta-templates.
[03:15:27] <Splarka>	deferred: 666, fixme: 36, live: 2, new: 331, notlive: 1439, ok: 354, resolved: 37, reverted: 17
[03:15:30] <Splarka>	heh
[03:52:29] *Splarka 	:/ at scap status a bit
[04:07:27] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Special:Allpages doesn't show all articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18690 minor; Normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (meikrosoft)
[04:18:01] <CIA-15>	03aboostani * r50251 10/trunk/phase3/includes/parser/Parser.php: Fixed problem with call to closeSectionContainers that contained references. Only the function definition needs to indicate that the input variable is a reference, not the function call.
[04:57:21] <pfruan>	hi,all
[05:11:04] <wizardrydragon>	Hello
[05:14:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Requesting to enable FlaggedRevs Patrolling Configuration on es.wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18005  +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[05:23:19] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Enable FlaggedRevs Patrolling Configuration on ia.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16485  +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[05:33:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New logo for Ido Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18658   +shell; +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[05:37:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New logo for Ukrainian Wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18358   +easy; +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[05:38:41] <jaiZ>	Hey guys. I am making a mediawiki powered website for LUG-Jaipur. Is there any showcase of mediawiki powered website.
[05:39:00] <jaiZ>	I am just curious about the things which can be done, and the customization level we can have using mediawiki.
[05:41:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Logo for Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18471   +easy (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[05:42:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New logo for Ido Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18658   +easy (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[05:44:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New logo for Ukrainian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18587   +easy (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[05:45:10] <CIA-15>	03philip * r50252 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (ZhConversion.php zhtable/tradphrases.manual): Update the Chinese conversion tables.
[05:45:22] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Imagick support in SVG to PNG conversion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18691 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Images and files; (yecarrillo)
[05:45:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Logo change for mk.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18652   +easy (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[05:50:00] <wizardrydragon>	jaiZ: Wikipedia tends to be a pretty good example :)
[05:50:30] <wizardrydragon>	jaiZ: If you want to see what custom extensions are installed on any given wiki, you can go to the Special:Version page on that wiki, and it will tell you them.
[05:50:46] <jaiZ>	wizardrydragon, oh thanks a ton. 
[05:50:54] <wizardrydragon>	For example:
[05:51:18] <wizardrydragon>	If you go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version
[05:51:36] <jaiZ>	wikibugs, yeah I was on the same page. :)
[05:51:36] <wizardrydragon>	You will see that Wikipedia itself uses a variety of different extensions to the core MediaWiki software.
[05:51:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add support for Imagick PHP extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14706  (10yecarrillo)
[05:52:26] <jaiZ>	wizardrydragon, that did a great deal of work. I'm going through that page. 
[05:53:34] <wizardrydragon>	jaiZ: If you want to make a mediawiki that functions much like Wikipedia does, you can basically go through that list to install all the extensions they use - though that comes with the caveat that some of them are designed specifically towards Wikipedia's needs and may not work quite as well in other environments.
[05:54:05] <jaiZ>	wizardrydragon, ohk. I see.
[05:54:22] <wizardrydragon>	There is a whole repository of extensions, though - Wikipedia only uses a few.
[05:54:36] <wizardrydragon>	The full list is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix
[05:55:13] <wizardrydragon>	If you want to see any given extention in use,
[05:55:24] <wizardrydragon>	Check out the "check usage" link
[05:55:43] <jaiZ>	wizardrydragon, apart from that don't we have something like http://community.joomla.org/showcase/ 
[05:56:16] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Sites_using_MediaWiki  ?
[05:56:20] <jaiZ>	which shows you usage of mediawiki for different purposes. As the customized look of mono-project or beagle.
[05:56:38] <wizardrydragon>	wikiindex.org
[05:56:50] <jaiZ>	thanks again wizardrydragon, Splarka.
[05:57:08] <wizardrydragon>	And yes, there's also the MW page too, though I find it kind of sparse.
[05:57:53] <wizardrydragon>	Wikindex lists them by the different MW forks, etc. - it can be a little daunting to navigate compared to that joomla.org link, though, I suppose.
[05:58:17] <jaiZ>	wizardrydragon, I am going through the list of extension mediawiki page has.
[05:59:25] <wizardrydragon>	One thing I feel compelled to note is that if you want the full functionality for Templates, you'll want to get the ParserFunctions extension: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions
[05:59:43] <wizardrydragon>	It adds considerably to the inherent MediaWiki parser functions, as the name may imply.
[06:00:16] <jaiZ>	wizardrydragon, Ohk. That is a good amount to read and apply for me now. ;)
[06:00:23] <wizardrydragon>	:)
[06:00:55] <wizardrydragon>	I don't use many myself, but if you want to do anything complex with templates, the ParserFunctions one  ... well, it's not _neccesary_ - but it makes things much easier, in my opinion.
[06:01:06] <wizardrydragon>	(I dont use many extensions, that is)
[06:01:25] <werdna>	ew
[06:01:32] <werdna>	implement it in php instead
[06:02:05] <jaiZ>	wizardrydragon, going though the work extensions can do is itself a lot for me.
[06:02:14] <jaiZ>	wizardrydragon, but surely it is fun in nature. 
[06:02:53] <wizardrydragon>	Oh, I've seen some wikis whose Special:Version page is basically the same as the extensions list there.
[06:03:02] <wizardrydragon>	But I try to avoid that :P
[06:03:56] <jaiZ>	wizardrydragon,  extension list as wikipedia has?
[06:04:22] <wizardrydragon>	Well, that is to say, some wikis just install _everything_ - but that's hardly neccesary (or desirable, really)
[06:05:07] <jaiZ>	wizardrydragon, true. Basically a universal truth for every application providing plugin like functionality. 
[06:05:49] <wizardrydragon>	Indeed.
[06:06:12] <wizardrydragon>	But there's always the "kitchen sink" complex that seems to get some people.
[06:06:17] <werdna>	mmm
[06:06:19] <werdna>	kitchen sinks
[06:06:40] <jaiZ>	yeah :D
[06:07:30] <Splarka>	I'd imagine many extensions are also mutually exclusive
[06:08:38] <Splarka>	(and some are just silly.. you wouldn't really need Central Auth if you only have one wiki, for example)
[06:09:04] <wizardrydragon>	I haven't used enough of them to know if there are any specific cases of them being mutually exclusive - but it stands to reason some would be - or at the very least, some would be redundant.
[06:09:10] <Splarka>	and many are deprecated by core functionality in newer versions
[06:09:29] <wizardrydragon>	Yeah, you don't really need AddSysop now :-)
[06:09:35] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Enable "IP block exemption" on all Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18337  +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[06:09:45] <Splarka>	so "everything" really means "everything that would add features and wouldn't break shit and would actually be useful in some possible way"
[06:10:31] <jaiZ>	I think the whole concept off addons/extensions/plugins is to add more functionality to the core, so much that you want it.
[06:10:49] <jaiZ>	But generally, that so much needs to be defined, which is not the case.
[06:11:26] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/List_of_extensions_to_be_merged_to_the_core
[06:11:40] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Enable IP block exemption on Simple English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18087  +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[06:27:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable the Collection extension for creating books on the Alemannic Wikipedia [alswiki] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18517  +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[06:59:03] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Enable TTF file uploads on Wikimedia projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18692 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (rememberthedot)
[07:03:01] <ZioCorto>	mornin
[07:25:45] <^David>	is there any way to add a user to a group through AuthPlugin?
[07:25:50] <^David>	http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/classUser.html
[07:25:52] <^David>	$user->something
[07:26:02] <^David>	and are there permissions for things like changing email
[07:26:10] <^David>	or is there a way to prevent users changing email
[07:28:31] <^David>	public function allowRealNameChange() {
[07:28:33] <^David>				return false;
[07:28:34] <^David>			}
[07:28:36] <^David>	doesn't work
[07:33:36] <werdna>	^David: You don't need to do it from AuthPlugin
[07:33:41] <werdna>	$user->addGroup( 'groupname' );
[07:34:03] <^David>	ok. I can't find a permission which restricts changing real name or email tho...
[07:34:34] <werdna>	I think that was added recently
[07:35:21] <^David>	hmm.. i see $wgAllowRealName
[07:36:32] <^David>	that worked..... lol
[07:36:56] <^David>	i just need to prevent email change now
[07:38:35] *Splarka 	pings mutante since his idle is less than 6 billion
[07:43:48] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:DoubleRedirects in a multi-redirect configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17934  +comment (10catlow)
[07:43:59] <ZioCorto>	hi
[07:44:09] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Error response to PDF creation for book - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18693 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Collection; (zigger)
[07:44:13] <ZioCorto>	i've got a problem with user rights
[07:44:23] <ZioCorto>	I'd like to have users
[07:44:27] <ZioCorto>	that cannot edit pages
[07:44:30] <ZioCorto>	but can create discussions
[07:44:40] <ZioCorto>	i think it's a problem eh?
[07:44:59] <Splarka>	they can't create pages unless they can edit pages
[07:45:13] <Splarka>	do you mean, can't edit "articles" ?
[07:45:20] <ZioCorto>	exactly
[07:45:30] <ZioCorto>	users can only create and partecipate to discussions
[07:45:37] <^David>	createtalk
[07:45:40] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgNamespaceProtection
[07:45:49] <ZioCorto>	yes david
[07:45:56] <Splarka>	^David: createtalk doesn't work if they can't edit
[07:45:59] <ZioCorto>	but createtalk requires edit
[07:45:59] <Splarka>	as I just said
[07:46:04] <^David>	ahk
[07:46:06] <^David>	yep :P
[07:46:13] <pfruan>	hi,where can i do something $user->add
[07:46:16] <Splarka>	ZioCorto: what you want to do is protect the namespaces you do not want edited by 'user' (all users)
[07:46:40] <Splarka>	and then you want to promote the people that are allowed to edit it to a group you've created, with a right you've assigned via $wgNamespaceProtection
[07:47:06] <ZioCorto>	hmmm let me check
[07:47:10] <Splarka>	so for example, you might cretae a new group:
[07:47:25] <Splarka>	$wgGroupPermissions['editor']['editarticle']             = true;
[07:47:49] <ZioCorto>	Splarka: before you continue, let me explain my situation
[07:47:50] <Splarka>	and protect it by:
[07:47:53] <Splarka>	$wgNamespaceProtection[NS_MAIN]      = array( 'editarticle' );
[07:47:53] <Splarka>	k
[07:47:58] <ZioCorto>	well
[07:48:10] <Splarka>	you can't really remove permission via addition of groups/rights
[07:48:25] <ZioCorto>	it's just this
[07:48:36] <ZioCorto>	in fact this mediawiki will act like a CMS
[07:48:37] <ZioCorto>	...
[07:48:43] <Splarka>	!cms
[07:48:43] --mwbot--	Wikis are designed for openness, to be readable and editable by all. If you want a forum, a blog, a web authoring toolkit or corporate content management system, perhaps don't use wiki software. There is a nice overview of free tools available at <http://www.opensourcecms.com/> including the possibility to try each system. For ways to restrict access in MediaWiki, see !access.
[07:49:14] <Splarka>	but as long as you don't want user/page specific READ granuality, then mediawiki can typically do what you want, with some hacking
[07:49:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Slight tweak to category redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17571  (10catlow)
[07:50:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Activate Extension:Collections on nowiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18618  (10hogne)
[07:51:42] <ZioCorto>	no Splarka 
[07:51:51] <ZioCorto>	well
[07:52:09] <ZioCorto>	it's a lame situations but unfortunately "chief" tells to use mediawiki
[07:52:18] <ZioCorto>	and there's no way to convice him.
[07:52:19] <ZioCorto>	SO
[07:52:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:DoubleRedirects in a multi-redirect configuration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17934  (10catlow)
[07:52:27] <ZioCorto>	this is the situation:
[07:52:37] <ZioCorto>	non registered users can only read pages
[07:52:49] <Splarka>	right, that's easy
[07:52:54] <ZioCorto>	registered users can read and partecipate to discussions but can't edit nor create pages
[07:52:58] <ZioCorto>	that's all
[07:53:11] <Splarka>	fine, lemme continue then ^_^
[07:53:22] <ZioCorto>	ok thanks^^
[07:53:23] <Splarka>	$wgGroupPermissions['editor']['editarticle']             = true;
[07:53:26] <Splarka>	$wgNamespaceProtection[NS_MAIN]      = array( 'editarticle' );
[07:53:57] <Splarka>	$wgGroupPermissions['*']['createtalk']       = false;
[07:54:03] <Splarka>	$wgGroupPermissions['editor']['createtalk']       = true;
[07:54:10] <Splarka>	and probably...
[07:54:15] <Splarka>	$wgGroupPermissions['user']['createtalk']       = false;
[07:54:41] <Splarka>	that should, IIRC, do what you want, then you have but to add users you want edit/create freely to the 'editor' group via Special:UserRights
[07:54:50] <werdna>	!access
[07:54:50] --mwbot--	For information on customizing user access, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights>. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access>.
[07:55:01] <Splarka>	yes, we need more mwbot spam to confuse him
[07:55:03] <Splarka>	heh
[07:55:25] <ZioCorto>	hmm
[07:55:33] <ZioCorto>	so let me recap
[07:55:45] <ZioCorto>	you create a group named "editor"
[07:56:06] <ZioCorto>	that does exactly what user group will do by default
[07:56:11] <Splarka>	it can be any name, you could just use an existing group too, like 'sysop'
[07:56:17] <ZioCorto>	yes
[07:56:26] <ZioCorto>	but I can't get namespaces
[07:56:31] <ZioCorto>	well let me read wiki
[07:56:34] <^David>	any way to prevent users changing password?
[07:56:34] <ZioCorto>	brb
[07:56:51] <Splarka>	well, it doesn't do exactly what 'user' can do, you should it a new right so you can use $wgNamespaceProtection
[07:57:10] <Xembalo>	Hello! I want to delete a file with an "+" in filename, but it will not work :-( mediawiki change the "+" to "_" in url and print "not such file"
[07:57:38] <Splarka>	tried changing the + to %2B manually in the url?
[07:58:04] <Xembalo>	yes
[07:58:37] <Xembalo>	http://www.travianerwiki.de/wiki/Datei:Schild-F%C3%A4hrmann-Z%C3%B6gling.gif --> i want to delete the duplicate
[07:59:40] <feldfrosch>	hi there
[07:59:48] <pfruan>	how can create namespace foreach group.and latter each groupmember 's title should auto belong their group  owned namespace
[08:00:33] <feldfrosch>	i got the error message: File does not exist: /var/www/<myfolder>/w, referer: http://wiki.<mydomain>com/index.php?title=blabla but did'nt find how to fix it
[08:01:41] <^David>	got it don't wry... :P
[08:04:48] <^David>	how to check if you are a sysop?
[08:04:50] <^David>	php
[08:06:30] <Marybelle>	Xembalo: http://www.travianerwiki.de/index.php?title=Datei:Druide%2BZ%C3%B6gling.gif&action=delete
[08:06:50] <^David>	gotit :P
[08:07:39] <Marybelle>	Huh?
[08:07:55] <Xembalo>	:-( thx
[08:07:57] <Xembalo>	it works
[08:08:03] <Marybelle>	:-)
[08:08:42] <pfruan>	i need assign user contributions's default namespace.any clue?
[08:09:04] <Marybelle>	No.
[08:09:28] <Splarka>	pfruan that sounds insane, but maybe see $wgNamespaceProtection
[08:09:51] <pfruan>	why insane
[08:10:06] <Marybelle>	Namespaces are for broadly separating content.
[08:11:11] <pfruan>	shouldn,t i make direct releavent between group and namespace?
[08:11:52] <werdna>	pfruan: I don't know what your question is
[08:12:23] <pfruan>	each group have there own namespace,so wont dirty other group's
[08:12:53] <werdna>	I don't understand -- you mean you want each group to only be able to edit a particular namespace?
[08:13:02] <pfruan>	yeah
[08:13:35] <werdna>	why not just set up multiple wikis instead?
[08:13:38] <werdna>	See also:
[08:13:39] <werdna>	!cms
[08:13:39] --mwbot--	Wikis are designed for openness, to be readable and editable by all. If you want a forum, a blog, a web authoring toolkit or corporate content management system, perhaps don't use wiki software. There is a nice overview of free tools available at <http://www.opensourcecms.com/> including the possibility to try each system. For ways to restrict access in MediaWiki, see !access.
[08:14:12] <pfruan>	we use as company's internal wiki.
[08:14:48] <werdna>	clearly
[08:15:49] <pfruan>	so there need  some acl.
[08:15:59] <werdna>	!acl
[08:15:59] --mwbot--	Wikis are designed for openness, to be readable and editable by all. If you want a forum, a blog, a web authoring toolkit or corporate content management system, perhaps don't use wiki software. There is a nice overview of free tools available at <http://www.opensourcecms.com/> including the possibility to try each system. For ways to restrict access in MediaWiki, see !access.
[08:16:05] <werdna>	ah, it's the same message
[08:16:21] <pfruan>	she is an bot
[08:16:28] <pfruan>	?
[08:16:32] <werdna>	Of coure
[08:16:34] <werdna>	course
[08:16:39] <werdna>	that's why it has 'bot' in its name
[08:16:41] <wizardrydragon>	The bot in the name kinda gives it away.
[08:17:00] <pfruan>	how he know what are talk about
[08:17:22] <wizardrydragon>	If I may interject, there is a way to restrict namespace editing in the LocalSettings.php - if you're intent on using MediaWiki - but you're probably better served finding a software package better suited to your needs.
[08:17:23] <pfruan>	just serach keyword,and do some response
[08:17:37] <Marybelle>	Are you a wizard?
[08:17:44] *werdna 	goes to sleep
[08:17:56] *wizardrydragon 	prods Werdna with a cattle prod.
[08:19:15] <wizardrydragon>	pfruan: Specifically, the configuration setting that would be applicable in MediaWiki is $wgNamespaceProtection.  Information about it is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgNamespaceProtection
[08:26:03] <CIA-15>	03thomasv * r50253 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/proofread.js: per Brion : do not use overflow-x
[08:32:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable TTF file uploads on Wikimedia projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18692  +comment (10neuro.wikipedia)
[08:36:10] <Nikerabbit>	uh
[08:36:16] <Nikerabbit>	someone wontfix that per discussion?
[08:36:34] <Marybelle>	Discussion where?
[08:36:36] <Splarka>	dontfix wontfix fontfix?
[08:36:52] <Marybelle>	Seems reasonable to upload fonts.
[08:37:32] <Nikerabbit>	is hilite even english?
[08:37:55] <Marybelle>	Not really.
[08:38:31] <Nikerabbit>	Marybelle: wfMsg doesn't itself mean any kind of processing to the message
[08:38:47] <Marybelle>	What does it mean? 
[08:38:51] <CIA-15>	03rotem * r50254 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update.
[08:40:06] <CIA-15>	03raymond * r50255 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
[08:40:06] <CIA-15>	* Follow up r50249: Add i18n file
[08:40:06] <CIA-15>	* Add extension to translatewiki
[08:40:07] <Nikerabbit>	Marybelle: nothing
[08:40:23] <Marybelle>	Nothing? :O
[08:43:03] <pfruan>	any good way to import msword doc with so many pic to mw
[08:45:18] <Nikerabbit>	Marybelle: nothing, it is just a function
[08:45:32] <Marybelle>	Huh.
[08:46:58] <pfruan>	it a worst dream
[08:48:06] <wizardrydragon>	pfruan: You'd probably have to extract the text of the document, and then add the pictures to the document.  As well as the formatting.
[09:16:06] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Spanish wikipedia XML dump problems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18694 normal; Normal; Wikimedia: Downloads; (elephantus_l)
[09:16:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add a music wikimodule - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189  +comment (10mange01)
[09:17:20] <pfruan>	how to add   'sanbox' onto sidebar 
[09:17:43] <Raymond_>	!sidebare | pfruan 
[09:17:43] --mwbot--	pfruan: I don't know anything about "sidebare". You might try: !sidebarex 
[09:17:52] <Raymond_>	!sidebar | pfruan 
[09:17:52] --mwbot--	pfruan: To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar>.
[09:18:15] <pfruan>	good bot
[09:19:49] *Splarka 	gives bot a cookie
[09:27:24] <CIA-15>	03vrandezo * r50256 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/SRF_Settings.php: removin ploticus for now due to security leak
[09:30:35] <CIA-15>	03thomasv * r50257 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/proofread.js: minor tweak
[10:04:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Microsoft SQL Server/MSSQL support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9767  (10yedidia)
[10:19:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Error response to PDF creation for book - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18693  (10zigger)
[10:24:06] <CIA-15>	03purodha * r50258 10/trunk/extensions/EditSectionHiliteLink/EditSectionHiliteLink.i18n.php: Message cosmetic - more standard English, and less Wikipedia-centric wording.
[11:06:47] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Extension:Wikidata_Language_Manager: PLURAL support needed. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18695 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Wikidata; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[11:11:57] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Unify svn-revision references in Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18593  (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[12:02:36] <CIA-15>	03purodha * r50259 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (6 files in 2 dirs): 
[12:02:36] <CIA-15>	Internationalisation: three messages needing PLURAL, per requests in
[12:02:36] <CIA-15>	http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Support&oldid=1208673#Extension:_Flagged_Revisions
[12:33:16] <Alexfill>	Anybody an idea, how i can disable the timezone in my signature with a "~~~~"?
[12:34:41] <Alexfill>	I tried to edit Parser.php but nothing helps
[12:34:45] *Splarka 	thinks you don't want him to answer again
[12:35:44] *ZioCorto 	thinks Splarka wants to answer againg
[12:35:48] <ZioCorto>	LOL
[12:36:23] <Alexfill>	i have no solution for the problem, so ...
[12:36:38] <Splarka>	okay, what version of MediaWiki are you using?
[12:36:44] <Alexfill>	1.14
[12:38:42] <Splarka>	http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_14_0/phase3/includes/parser/Parser.php?view=markup  so this should be identical to your parser prior to your edits
[12:40:18] <Alexfill>	omg
[12:40:33] <Alexfill>	i have an old Parser.php in my includes dir
[12:40:55] <Alexfill>	i do not care about the /parser subdir
[12:41:11] <Alexfill>	sorry for this
[12:41:17] <Alexfill>	now it works fine
[12:41:27] <Splarka>	well, you should care about it, since it is where the parser is now, heh
[12:41:52] <Splarka>	ZioCorto: ask your question
[12:43:32] <ZioCorto>	Splarka: i was checking help in wiki
[12:43:39] <ZioCorto>	but i can't find anything
[12:43:46] <ZioCorto>	well the first question is this
[12:44:01] *Splarka 	grins
[12:44:08] <ZioCorto>	suppose I have several pages that belongs to more than 1 category
[12:44:11] <Splarka>	how dare you bother the poor wiki before asking us! haha
[12:44:44] <ZioCorto>	how can I create a template that can accept an arbitrary number of values for category?
[12:44:48] <ZioCorto>	something like this
[12:45:37] <ZioCorto>	[[Category:{{{category}}}]]
[12:45:40] <ZioCorto>	in the template
[12:45:48] <ZioCorto>	so in creating a page i just write
[12:45:55] <ZioCorto>	|mycategory
[12:46:01] <ZioCorto>	but i want to have more than one
[12:46:25] <ZioCorto>	is there a way or it's better removing category from the template and insert categories manually while creating pages?
[12:46:46] <Splarka>	do you have the ParserFunctions extension?
[12:46:58] <ZioCorto>	nope
[12:48:28] <Splarka>	then it is better to categorize manually, or create templates with single categories
[12:48:41] <Splarka>	{{cats}} -> <includeonly>[[Category:Cats]]</includeonly>
[12:48:58] <Splarka>	{{mammals}} -> <includeonly>[[Category:Mammals]][[Category:Animals]]</includeonly>
[12:48:59] <Splarka>	or such
[12:49:21] <ZioCorto>	ok I'll categorize manually
[12:49:32] <ZioCorto>	in fact there won't be a lot of categories
[12:49:38] <ZioCorto>	maximum 3 or 4 per page
[12:50:10] <Splarka>	hmm, you could just install parserfunctions and create a template to do that pretty easily
[12:50:40] <Splarka>	{{#if:{{{1|}}}|[[Category:{{{1}}}|{{PAGENAME}}]]}}<!--
[12:50:48] <Splarka>	-->{{#if:{{{2|}}}|[[Category:{{{2}}}|{{PAGENAME}}]]}}<!--
[12:50:50] <Splarka>	and so forth
[12:51:07] <Splarka>	and call with {{templatename|cats|mammals|mew}}
[12:51:55] <ZioCorto>	no, it's better to insert manually :)
[12:52:28] <Splarka>	come to the dark side, it is your destiny
[12:53:48] <ZioCorto>	ahahah
[12:55:50] <ZioCorto>	ok, here it comes the BIG question
[12:56:02] <ZioCorto>	i need to customize the registration form
[12:56:17] <ZioCorto>	with some custom fields
[12:56:48] <ZioCorto>	and i need to have a page where i can check every user info, both standard and custom one
[12:56:54] <ZioCorto>	this is difficult :(
[12:57:22] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/UserCreateForm
[12:57:59] <Splarka>	eg: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:UserCreateForm_extensions
[12:58:25] <ZioCorto>	uao
[12:58:34] <ZioCorto>	the first is not an extension right?
[12:58:54] <Duesentrieb>	no, it's the hook extensions can use to change the form
[12:58:56] <Splarka>	it is a way to create an extension
[12:59:06] <Splarka>	damn... somewhere Wikia has a user-prefs spy tool
[12:59:15] <Splarka>	somewhere here IIRC: https://svn.wikia-code.com/wikia/trunk/extensions/wikia/
[12:59:57] <ZioCorto>	i haven't understand
[13:00:49] <Splarka>	using the UserCreateForm hook you can create an extension to add/remove/change the form
[13:01:05] <Splarka>	in Category:UserCreateForm_extensions are several extensions that do that, one might be a good example for you, or even do what you want already
[13:01:10] <Splarka>	simple ^_^
[13:01:37] <Splarka>	ahh, here it is: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/LookupUser/
[13:01:52] <ZioCorto>	that's for the info page
[13:03:08] <Splarka>	LookupUser should dump user prefs, did when I used it last anyway
[13:03:25] <ZioCorto>	ok i'll read
[13:03:27] <ZioCorto>	thanks
[13:27:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Activate Extension:Collections on nowiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18618  (10a_larsen79)
[13:29:03] <hippietrail_>	is it possible to specify a url that gets a page by its id rather than by its title?
[13:29:37] <Duesentrieb>	a revision, yes. iu don't think it's possible with page ids
[13:29:44] <Duesentrieb>	well, you can do it via the api
[13:29:53] <Splarka>	sure it is, &cureid
[13:29:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Activate Extension:Collections on nowiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18618  (10a_larsen79)
[13:29:59] <Splarka>	er &curid
[13:30:07] <Splarka>	as used in recent changes 
[13:30:20] <hippietrail_>	is curid the pageid or the revision id?
[13:30:24] <Duesentrieb>	that's the page id, not revision id?
[13:30:56] <Splarka>	oldid is rev, curid is page
[13:31:33] <hippietrail_>	thanks guys. thought i found a weird dupe but didnt take namespace into account
[13:31:44] <Splarka>	if you notice on recent changes, all diff/hist links have curid
[13:31:58] <Splarka>	this overrides the &title parameter, so if a page is moved the link is still valid
[13:32:40] <Duesentrieb>	good to know, thanks
[13:32:47] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_intelligent_users?curid=136116
[13:33:06] <hippietrail_>	handy indeed. knew it had to be there but since id and pageid didnt work it was an irc question (-:
[13:33:25] <Splarka>	it probably wouldn't be there except that it is useful for recentchanges
[13:33:38] <Splarka>	take for example the lack of a similar method of referring to user by id
[13:33:57] <Splarka>	it is no security threat or private information, it just isn't exposed because there isn't much use for it
[13:39:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable TTF file uploads on Wikimedia projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18692  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[13:46:52] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) Extension:Wikidata_Language_Manager: PLURAL support needed. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18695  +comment (10jan)
[13:52:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Extension:Wikidata_Language_Manager: PLURAL support needed. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18695  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[13:52:33] <ZioCorto>	woah I installed this
[13:52:33] <ZioCorto>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CustomUserCreateForm
[13:52:52] <ZioCorto>	but now i've got to modify the Usercreate class
[13:52:57] <ZioCorto>	any hints?
[13:52:58] <ZioCorto>	lol
[13:57:00] <Bagualas>	hello
[13:57:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Extension:Wikidata_Language_Manager: PLURAL support needed. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18695  +comment (10jan)
[13:57:32] <Bagualas>	how may I create a summary in the index page? like a thing with all my categories
[13:58:18] <CIA-15>	03robin * r50260 10/trunk/extensions/WikimediaIncubator/ (TestWikiRC.php WikimediaIncubator.php): fix recent changes for anonymous users (displayed nothing, now displays normal RC)
[13:58:28] <Duesentrieb>	Bagualas: by hand.
[13:58:49] <Duesentrieb>	well, you *could* use DPL or CategoryTree. If you want.
[13:58:58] <Duesentrieb>	you need a top "root" category for that though
[13:59:04] <Bagualas>	hummm, what is DPL ?
[13:59:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Extension:Wikidata_Language_Manager: PLURAL support needed. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18695  +comment (10raimond.spekking)
[14:02:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Activate Extension:Collections on nowiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18618  (10lars-wikimediabugzilla)
[14:02:51] <Duesentrieb>	!DPL | Bagualas
[14:02:51] --mwbot--	Bagualas: The DynamicPageList (DPL) extension outputs reports based on criteria given in a special tag. For more information, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList> and <http://semeb.com/dpldemo/index.php?title=Dynamic_Page_List>.
[14:02:58] <Duesentrieb>	!categorytree | Bagualas
[14:02:58] --mwbot--	Bagualas: I don't know anything about "categorytree".
[14:03:02] <Duesentrieb>	bah
[14:03:13] <Duesentrieb>	!e CategoryTree | Bagualas
[14:03:13] --mwbot--	Bagualas: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree
[14:04:24] <CIA-15>	03yaron * r50261 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/Calendar/SRF_Calendar.php: Added Ryan Lane's fix for disabling cache; more fixes for Special:Ask handling
[14:06:23] <Bagualas>	Duesentrieb, i will take a look! Thanks man
[14:10:24] <ZioCorto>	hmm in my custom form I also want that emails and real name are mandatory
[14:10:30] <ZioCorto>	and not optionals
[14:10:32] <ZioCorto>	O_o
[14:12:48] <Mike_lifeguard>	ZioCorto: you mean for registering accounts?
[14:13:09] <Mike_lifeguard>	there's probably a setting for that
[14:14:16] <ZioCorto>	yes I mean for registering
[14:14:24] <ZioCorto>	Mike_lifeguard: 
[14:18:36] <Mike_lifeguard>	# $wgEmailConfirmToEdit - Require users to confirm email address before they can edit, true to enable.
[14:19:30] <Mike_lifeguard>	# $wgAllowRealName - Whether or not to allow real name fields. - but that doesn't force using it
[14:19:56] <ZioCorto>	woah
[14:20:04] <ZioCorto>	i need mandatory both of them
[14:20:13] <ZioCorto>	I mean
[14:23:28] <Evolution>	is it possible to disable talk globally via something like $wgGroupPermissions['*']['*talk'] = false; ?
[14:24:37] <ZioCorto>	Evolution: yes
[14:24:42] <ZioCorto>	but you've got to set namespaces
[14:24:49] <ZioCorto>	with that new permission
[14:25:02] <ZioCorto>	Mike_lifeguard: ok, mandatory emails are ok
[14:25:06] <ZioCorto>	but not real names
[14:25:27] <Mike_lifeguard>	yeah, I didn't find a setting for that... maybe there isn't one
[14:25:41] <Evolution>	ZioCorto: I don't quite follow. I'm looking at this page -> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights#Default_rights and I don't see a namespace setting in there 
[14:25:59] <Evolution>	can you elaborate with crayon a bit for me? :-P
[14:27:46] <ZioCorto>	hmm let me see
[14:28:10] <ZioCorto>	you want to disable talking or just createtalk?
[14:28:36] <ZioCorto>	Mike_lifeguard: do you know if there are some extensions?
[14:30:12] <Mike_lifeguard>	I doubt it... but that's something that could be implemented with a config setting in core
[14:30:17] <Evolution>	ZioCorto: both. I have editing restricted to the editors group. they should be the only folks using talk. 
[14:30:22] <Evolution>	if at all.
[14:30:53] <Splarka>	'edit' lets you edit subject and talk spaces
[14:31:37] <ZioCorto>	lol Splarka it seems that he has exactly the problem that I had :)
[14:31:39] <Splarka>	'createpage' and 'createtalk' only restrict (allow) creating such pages
[14:31:44] <Splarka>	yah, deja vu
[14:31:59] <Splarka>	however, you can restrict editing individual namespaces with http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgNamespaceProtection
[14:32:01] <Evolution>	so I need to $wgGroupPermissions['*']['createtalk'] = false; as well as 'edittalk' ?
[14:32:16] <Splarka>	there is no 'edittalk', but you can make one with Manual:$wgNamespaceProtection
[14:32:50] <Splarka>	$wgNamespaceProtection[NS_TALK]      = array( 'edittalk' );
[14:33:06] <Splarka>	this is just ns-1 though, you'd have to repeat that for all odd namespaces
[14:33:41] <brion-breakfast>	what up folks
[14:33:56] <ZioCorto>	breakfast?
[14:34:01] <ZioCorto>	lol where do you come from
[14:34:39] <CIA-15>	03jojo * r50262 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Added code & CSS for Navpopups. Do not use configurable URLs, but a single bool variable.
[14:37:08] <Simetrical>	He's on the West Coast.
[14:40:29] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Error response to PDF creation for book - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18693  +comment (10support)
[14:41:06] <fbc-mx>	Hi all! I have just installed Media wiki and all went well. However I have one problem. Everything I type runs off the end of the page. How do you get the text to auto format to the width of the browser?
[14:41:47] <fbc-mx>	Is it a plugin that needs to be instaleld?
[14:41:56] <Splarka>	fbc-mx: don't indent the paragraph with spaces
[14:42:13] <Splarka>	that indicates a <pre> block (which doesn't wrap), for cut-pasted code 
[14:43:00] <fbc-mx>	ahh.. ok, yes I did cut and paste and the pasted code does appear that way.. let me correct it.. thanks...
[14:43:24] <Splarka>	np, use two newlines to break paragraphs
[14:45:07] <rqd>	hi,any awake guy
[14:46:13] <freakolowsky>	aloha ppl
[14:47:08] <brion-breakfast>	ZioCorto: don't be making fun of my timezone :(
[14:47:23] <rqd>	i wannt know ,how can i presetting each categorie appeared on one cateogory(a)'s parent category was the category(a)
[14:47:48] <freakolowsky>	need google-translate for this one :S
[14:48:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add a music wikimodule - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=189  (10roan.kattouw)
[14:48:13] <rqd>	?
[14:48:15] <fbc-mx>	Splarka, aweseom thanks.. that worked.
[14:49:15] <Splarka>	rar
[14:49:28] <ZioCorto>	cya
[14:51:58] <freakolowsky>	erm ... did by any chance max recursion level in _unstub change in the last few days?
[14:54:30] <fbc-mx>	I can't find a command for making a numbered list, or does that have to be done manually?
[14:54:38] <Simetrical>	fbc-mx, #
[14:54:46] <asmarin>	I'm triying to upgrade my wiki to 1.14 but i find some links without pretty url syntax
[14:55:08] <asmarin>	it is normal? or is a bug on upgrade process....i didnt show any error on upgrade :-S
[14:55:27] <fbc-mx>	Simetrical, damn that was too easy... 
[14:56:18] <fbc-mx>	Simetrical, and I I wanted it subnumbered it would be ##?
[14:56:35] <Simetrical>	Yes.
[14:56:49] <fbc-mx>	Simetrical, wow,, unbelievable logical..
[14:57:15] <Splarka>	you'll be singing a different tune when you encounter https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13223 
[14:57:22] <Splarka>	raroan
[14:58:06] <RoanKattouw>	Hi Splarka 
[14:59:36] <asmarin>	arrrggghhhhh Localsetting syntax :-@ problem solved :-P
[15:01:03] <yao_ziyuan>	i'm revisiting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disambiguation
[15:01:13] <yao_ziyuan>	an example on it for word sense disambiguation is vandalized.
[15:01:18] <yao_ziyuan>	it leads me to think,
[15:01:31] <yao_ziyuan>	every wiki page should have a "Current" and a "Last verified" tab.
[15:01:45] <Mike_lifeguard>	FlaggedRevs does exist
[15:01:52] <Mike_lifeguard>	now convince them to use it
[15:02:02] <yao_ziyuan>	the "Last verified" version is verified by at least one seasoned wikipedian.
[15:02:56] <yao_ziyuan>	glad to hear in #wikipedia that the german wikipedia is already doing this
[15:05:20] <Splarka>	wat
[15:09:26] <zrh>	Hello … is it somehow possible to get the character count of a page in MW?
[15:10:20] <Splarka>	bytecount is easy
[15:10:26] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&rvprop=size&titles=Foobar
[15:10:45] <Splarka>	but character count would probably have to be done manually
[15:11:18] <Splarka>	note also that is the count of the raw wikicode, so templates are not expanded, eg {{foo}} is just 7 bytes
[15:11:51] *Splarka 	grins at Roan
[15:12:10] <Splarka>	how hard to make an intelligent (to encoding) character counter? heh
[15:12:30] <RoanKattouw>	About as hard as parsing the page and counting the output? :P
[15:12:38] <zrh>	;)
[15:12:41] <Splarka>	well, unparsed I mean
[15:13:06] <zrh>	The counter hasn't to be that intelligent, it's not a matter of life and death … an estimate is sufficient.
[15:13:21] <Splarka>	then byte size will do, see the api example above
[15:13:26] <CIA-15>	03aboostani * r50263 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: Set the default value for $wgSectionContainers and documented the functionality.
[15:14:23] <Splarka>	or if you want post-render, get http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=parse&page=Foobar and count the bytes in <text>
[15:15:06] <Splarka>	(note in format=xml that <>"& are escaped to entities)
[15:15:29] <zrh>	Thanks, Splarka!
[15:15:46] <Splarka>	rar
[15:16:02] <Splarka>	so many brions, so little scap
[15:20:55] <CIA-15>	03jan * r50264 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/OmegaWiki/SpecialDatasearch.php: (bug 18695) Change from wfMsg to wfMsgExt with array('parse', 'replaceafter' ) as $options
[15:34:56] <CIA-15>	03jan * r50265 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/ (OmegaWiki/SpecialDatasearch.php SpecialLanguages.i18n.php): (bug 18695) Fixes for r50264
[15:36:50] <CIA-15>	03shinjiman * r50266 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Localisation updates Cantonese and Chinese for extension messages
[15:37:28] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Extension:Wikidata_Language_Manager: PLURAL support needed. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18695  +comment (10jan)
[15:41:05] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Make some URLs shorter, maybe per user preferences. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18696 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[15:46:12] <CIA-15>	03daniel * r50267 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWordBuilder/src/main/java/de/brightbyte/wikiword/ (5 files in 3 dirs): preparing to process commons dump
[15:47:51] <Luxo>	is it right that it's not possible to use the AbuseFilter for new uploaded files? but only for new pages and diffs?
[15:51:42] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Extension:Wikidata_Language_Manager: PLURAL support needed. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18695  +comment (10jan)
[15:54:47] <nick_h[litage]>	in Special:AllMessages, i changed the "resetpass_forbidden" message to "Please change your password [https://foo.com here]". however, the wikitext isn't being interpreted. is it possible to get MW to interpret the wikitext?
[15:57:11] <Splarka>	nick_h[litage]: probably not without core hacking or a special extension to do just that (ick)
[16:00:19] <r4ph431>	does someone knows how an external app can obtains the MW $_SESSION (do I have to find the-correct-WM-file-to include, or set a phpini variable ?)
[16:01:59] <r4ph431>	I tryed a simple session_start() and wfSetupSession() after having included some WM files, but it's still null
[16:04:56] <brion>	morning everybody
[16:05:30] <r4ph431>	(forgot to say that of course, with session_start I specified session_name before)  (lo brion :))
[16:05:32] <CIA-15>	03robin * r50268 10/trunk/extensions/WikimediaIncubator/WikimediaIncubator.i18n.php: add German translation by MF-Warburg
[16:05:50] <Marybelle>	Morning.
[16:05:58] <freakolowsky>	morning? ... 
[16:06:25] <freakolowsky>	oh ... US-eastcoast massive in-da-house
[16:06:36] <alxndr>	Anyone know a PHP way to get the name of a namespace in the interface language? something like $somevariable[NS_IMAGE] evaluates as "Image" on an English wiki, and "Bild" on a German wiki
[16:06:48] <Splarka>	*sigh*, okay, what stupid language(s) can we blame the etymology for [timeofday] being used for [genericgreeting] ?
[16:07:22] <Marybelle>	Morning, Splarka.
[16:07:35] <Splarka>	night Marybelle
[16:07:46] <Splarka>	^ see, that doesn't work, one assumes it means "goodbye"
[16:07:59] <Marybelle>	Hmm, pedantry. 
[16:08:16] <Marybelle>	Tastes so sweet when it comes from the teat of Splarka.
[16:08:20] <freakolowsky>	6PM, Splarka
[16:08:27] <Splarka>	Marybelle: fail
[16:08:39] <Splarka>	my problem comes from the pedants here who say "but it isn't [generictimezone]"
[16:08:44] <Splarka>	it is actually anti-pedantry
[16:08:51] <Splarka>	as proven by my using 'night' as a greeting
[16:08:57] <Marybelle>	You're complaining about etymology. 
[16:09:04] <Splarka>	yes, because it sucks
[16:09:20] <Splarka>	pedants refer to etymology for their bread and butter
[16:09:26] <brion>	well, through most of human history real-time communications were only in person
[16:09:27] <freakolowsky>	applied-languages channel is on the other side of the IRC
[16:09:32] <brion>	thus all parties in the same time zone
[16:09:49] <Splarka>	brion: so what did gravediggers say to each other when they show up for the 11pm shift?
[16:09:50] <Marybelle>	"Night" is different from "morning." *shrugs* It keeps the grammar-book makers in business.
[16:10:03] <brion>	fixed phrases tend to be conservative, linguistically speaking, so they can be "frozen" even when the literal meaning no longer applies consistently
[16:10:11] <Splarka>	right
[16:10:13] <brion>	Splarka: good evening? :)
[16:10:25] <Splarka>	so you should be able to say "good morning" 24/7 in IRC and not be called on it, in english at least
[16:10:37] <brion>	it's morning somewhere, bitches
[16:10:40] <Splarka>	without having to say "it is morning somewhere!"
[16:10:41] <Splarka>	...
[16:10:47] <freakolowsky>	gramar-book makers should be the first ones to go in front of the wall when the great revolution comes .... and you can quote me on that one in HHGttG
[16:10:54] <Splarka>	brion: if you're so predictable, how come you aren't doing code review ^_^
[16:11:23] <brion>	because it's 9:11am and i'm reading documents sent to me in email
[16:11:28] <Splarka>	freakolowsky: sadly, it was the inventors of the time machine who were first against the wall, when they went ahead to see who was first against the wall
[16:11:34] <Marybelle>	Mmm, e-mail.
[16:12:45] <freakolowsky>	Splarka ... PLEASE don't get me started on the time travel debate
[16:12:57] <Splarka>	I already did, go back in time and stop me
[16:12:59] *freakolowsky 	tries to ignore this window
[16:13:03] <Splarka>	heh
[16:13:17] <Marybelle>	I love time zones. 
[16:13:22] <Splarka>	time travel is both impossible and meaningless, but you can easily (comparitively) rearrange all matter to suit whatever changes you need
[16:13:25] *freakolowsky 	has a tough time reading the anwsers while trying to ignore this window
[16:13:37] <brion>	i travel through time constantly
[16:13:44] <brion>	just in one direction at a fixed speed
[16:13:48] <Splarka>	either rearrange it to an earlier or later entropic state, or rearrange it to an alternate sequence of events in the present
[16:13:56] <freakolowsky>	EVERYONE travels trough time ... constantly ... but we are stuck in 1st gear
[16:14:02] <brion>	i guess that's what traveling constantly means though
[16:14:07] <brion>	so i repeat myself
[16:15:07] <freakolowsky>	could somone call the destructor on this debate
[16:15:10] <Splarka>	even supposing agressive time travel is impossible, the first thing it would do if there was any causality is undo itself... if you invent a time machine to change the past, then you'll change it in such a way that there'll be no need to invent a time machine to change the past, so the universe self-corrects for no agressive time machines
[16:15:22] <Splarka>	only benign ones, like past observation or future-patent-stealing
[16:15:31] <Splarka>	isn't impossible
[16:15:39] <Splarka>	even, too late in the morning
[16:15:42] <brion>	rm -rf /timetravel
[16:15:47] <alxndr>	So hey, anyone wanna talk about mediawiki?
[16:15:54] <brion>	echo "mediawiki" > /dev/discussion
[16:16:00] <Splarka>	what is that? some sort of timetravel software?
[16:16:07] <brion>	how can i make my mediawiki installation travel through time?
[16:16:20] <Splarka>	there is a gadget for that
[16:16:24] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Splarka/timetravel.js
[16:18:35] <r4ph431>	oh ! the session_name set was wrong, $_SESSION is no more empty
[16:19:04] <Splarka>	fine, something on topic: brion: resetpass_forbidden isn't parsed as wikitext, for alternate authentication modules it might be handy to allow it to, like, leave a link to where one can alter user stuff.. could be a quick tweak, or should nick_h[litage] open a bugzilla for it to pad your bugfixing stats? ^_^
[16:19:27] <freakolowsky>	brion simple ... tell scotty you need that warp drive at max and go for a spin around the sun, do a sling-shot orbit, go to transwarp ... all that while having your mediawiki box on board of the ship ... but you don't want that ... imagne revisions if timetravel were possible
[16:20:46] <alxndr>	Is there a PHP equivalent of {{ns:6}}, to get the name of a namespace in the interface language? something like $wgSomething[NS_IMAGE] evaluates as "Image" on an English wiki, and "Bild" on a German wiki? brion?
[16:21:11] <Splarka>	you could check what {{ns}} does, heh
[16:21:42] <brion>	alxndr: i believe there's some handy bits on either $wgContLang or MWNamespace class
[16:21:42] <alxndr>	Hmm.
[16:22:11] <Splarka>	return $wgContLang->getFormattedNsText( $index );  ?
[16:22:19] <brion>	freakolowsky: we've already got to deal with that when a clock gets unsynced and something starts saving edits in 2003 ;)
[16:23:31] <freakolowsky>	Q: is wgLang initialised before DB?
[16:25:28] <sterlings>	Has anyone experienced problems with mw1.14 setup on windows server 2003?
[16:25:57] <sterlings>	Specifically, apache experiencing "Access violation reading location 0x00000014"
[16:30:34] <brion>	rimg101: that's a new one to me :)
[16:30:43] <brion>	some sort of internal error in apache or php, looks like
[16:31:33] <CIA-15>	03j * r50269 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/OggPlayer.js: detect Safari + XiphQt via mimetype, do not enable controls in safari since they seam to crash safari right now
[16:31:40] <Evolution>	for $wgCookieExpiration, is there a way to make that on browser close?
[16:31:49] <Evolution>	I'd like to not leave stray cookies lying about.
[16:31:56] <brion>	Evolution: set to 0, i believe
[16:32:41] <brion>	damn, i forgot to get my tequila out for code review yesterday ;)
[16:32:46] <brion>	that probably made things go smoother
[16:33:09] <CIA-15>	03j * r50270 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/libEmbedVideo/mv_baseEmbed.js: detect native <video> support with Safari + XiphQt via mimetype, if canPlayType is not available
[16:35:36] <rimg101>	I thought it might be a permission error, but httpd.exe has full control under admin.
[16:36:39] <rimg101>	php 5.2.9, apache 2.11, mysql 5.1.34
[16:47:23] <Splarka>	they trinkle back
[16:47:30] <Splarka>	...and forth
[16:48:01] <svip>	Ugh... anyone got any experience with CentralAuth?
[17:20:24] <CIA-15>	03laner * r50271 10/trunk/extensions/SmoothGallery/ (3 files): 
[17:20:24] <CIA-15>	* Updated to be compatible to MediaWiki 1.14
[17:20:24] <CIA-15>	* sgallery can now be used as a parser function
[17:20:24] <CIA-15>	** sgallery Parser Function changes contributed by David Claughton <dave@eclecticdave.com>
[17:20:24] <CIA-15>	* Two new tag arguments are available for controlling the infopane
[17:20:25] <CIA-15>	** infopane sliding and opacity patch provided by David Claughton <dave@eclecticdave.com>
[17:20:29] <CIA-15>	* Bumped version to 1.1d
[17:25:01] <CIA-15>	03laner * r50272 10/trunk/extensions/LdapAuthentication/LdapAuthentication.php: Added missing $wgVersion global in AutoAuthSetup()
[17:26:16] <KingAztech>	Anyone experience in Mediawiki with spare time available? Got a task available. Might be a pay included which depends on your skill.
[17:26:37] <Ryan_Lane>	KingAztech: what are you looking to do?
[17:26:56] <KingAztech>	I basically need someone to build me a wiki site
[17:26:59] <jeroen->	maybe a silly question, but how is Commons set-up for multiple languages; e.g. Main Page or (Dutch) Hoofdpagina; where do I configure what startpage is used based on a users language settings?
[17:27:25] <Ryan_Lane>	KingAztech: you already have a hosting service?
[17:27:40] <KingAztech>	Ryan_Lane: Yep
[17:27:43] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) page reference refused - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18697 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (hughpi)
[17:27:48] <Ryan_Lane>	KingAztech: how far along are you? Do you have anything set up?
[17:28:55] <KingAztech>	Ryan_Lane: I've tried a few times but with no luck.. always run into problems which I'm unable to find a solution for. Someone with a bit of experience would be able to make one with speed
[17:42:06] <CIA-15>	03laner * r50273 10/trunk/extensions/SmoothGallery/SmoothGalleryParser.php: * Added back support for parsing templates when the extension is used as a tag
[17:55:31] <zrh>	Hello, I've got a problem with the MW API … any hint how to parse $data = & $api->getResultData();
[17:55:31] <zrh>	 in PHP?
[17:55:51] <RoanKattouw>	It's an array with subarrays with subarrays ...
[17:56:03] <zrh>	Ah, that's explains most of the problem … :|
[17:56:14] <Splarka>	jeroen-: it's a trick
[17:56:22] <RoanKattouw>	Other than that it looks a lot like the 'regular' API output, except that it's in array format
[17:56:23] <Splarka>	see http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php (warning: big-ass page)
[17:56:41] <Splarka>	jeroen-: on that page look for:  'wgForceUIMsgAsContentMsg' => array(
[17:57:00] <Splarka>	see what is defined in it, and then check out http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgForceUIMsgAsContentMsg
[18:00:22] <jeroen->	Splarka: thanks
[18:00:45] <jeroen->	but I don't have access to the shell :-(
[18:01:31] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) page reference refused - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18697  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[18:01:35] *RoanKattouw 	curses users who make a mistake and immediately blame the software and file a bug without checking whether they might've made a typo
[18:02:36] <mvatki>	I just installed the CategoryTree extension from the latest snapshot but subcategories on category pages don't expand. 
[18:02:38] *Evolution 	fiels severle bugs blaaming mediawikee for not doing what he told it in the LoocalSetings.php
[18:02:49] <mvatki>	In fact, + signs aren't even 'linked'
[18:03:02] <RoanKattouw>	mvatki: Yeah, I heard someone else complain about that earlier this week
[18:03:05] *RoanKattouw 	searches Bugzilla
[18:03:15] <mvatki>	how did they fix it?
[18:04:11] <RoanKattouw>	They didn't
[18:04:17] <RoanKattouw>	There also doesn't seem to be a bug filed on Bugzilla
[18:04:21] <RoanKattouw>	So you might wanna file one
[18:04:21] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:CategoryTree#mediawiki_1.14.0_upgrade_and_can.27t_get_past_first_level_of_the_hierarchy
[18:04:23] <Ryan_Lane>	mvatki: do you have ajax enabled?
[18:04:40] <mvatki>	ryan:yes
[18:04:50] <Ryan_Lane>	just making sure :)
[18:04:58] <Splarka>	checked your js console for any errors?
[18:06:04] <mvatki>	splarka:no, I guess I could check that...
[18:06:25] <mvatki>	RoanKattouw:yeah, that *is* my issue
[18:07:42] <RoanKattouw_away>	mvatki: That's not Bugzilla :)
[18:22:17] <CIA-15>	03raymond * r50274 10/trunk/extensions/Wikidata/ (OmegaWiki/SpecialDatasearch.php SpecialLanguages.i18n.php): 
[18:22:17] <CIA-15>	Revert r50264/r50265 for now: (bug 18695) Change from wfMsg to wfMsgExt with array('parse', 'replaceafter' ) as $options
[18:22:17] <CIA-15>	PLURAL needs a numeric value to work.
[18:28:56] <CIA-15>	03raymond * r50275 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/OggHandler.php: Follow up r50269: Bump version number
[18:41:14] <CIA-15>	03raymond * r50276 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
[18:41:14] <CIA-15>	Add WikimediaIncubator extension to translatewiki
[18:41:14] <CIA-15>	Reformat i18n file
[18:58:14] <ZioCorto>	hi all
[18:58:19] <ZioCorto>	hi Splarka :P
[18:58:53] <ZioCorto>	no questions now, just evening relaxing at home :P
[18:59:06] <ZioCorto>	ghgh lunch :D
[19:01:11] <Nikerabbit>	hi Splarka Splarka Splarka Splarka 
[19:16:07] <Splarka>	r
[19:26:47] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Use file.inc or file.php, not file.inc.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18698 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (jidanni)
[19:26:56] <Betacommand>	RoanKattouw: why doesnt http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=users&ususers=71.228.21.151&usprop=editcount work?
[19:27:32] <CIA-15>	03raymond * r50277 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (54 files): Localisation updates for core messages from translatewiki.net (2009-05-06 19:00 UTC)
[19:30:55] <RoanKattouw>	Betacommand: Because the editcount for anons isn't stored in the database, and calculating it on the fly is too expensive
[19:32:04] <Splarka>	does list=users even do anything with anons? heh
[19:32:16] *Splarka 	thought it reported them invalid="" and went to the next in the list
[19:32:42] <Betacommand>	RoanKattouw: thanks
[19:33:40] <RoanKattouw>	Splarka: That's probably true, yeah
[19:33:49] <RoanKattouw>	Since it grabs all its info from the user table, and anons aren't in there
[19:34:16] <Splarka>	lesse, "invalid" matches anything that could be an IP (4 or 6) address, as well as illegal character names
[19:34:49] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=users&ususers=foo[]bar|foo@bar|1.2.3.4
[19:35:06] <Splarka>	foo@bar isn't invalid, but it is restricted, so just gets listed as "missing"
[19:35:26] <RoanKattouw>	I don't know if that's true
[19:35:45] <RoanKattouw>	I guess @ somehow makes it through validation and is retrieved from the user table
[19:36:00] <RoanKattouw>	Which is exactly what we want if/when changerights by userid is ever done
[19:36:05] <Splarka>	well, @ is legal in grandfathered names, it just isn't allowed in new ones
[19:36:34] <Splarka>	this is also interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=users&ususers=foo[]bar|foo@bar|1.2.3.4|WP:WP:foobarbazzzz|WP:foobarbazzzz  (which is why names starting with namespace aliases aren't allowed)
[19:37:00] <RoanKattouw>	Yeah
[19:37:17] <RoanKattouw>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=users&ususers=foo[]bar|foo@bar|1.2.3.4|WP:WP:foobarbazzzz|WP:Catrope&usprop=editcount
[19:37:19] <RoanKattouw>	Oops?
[19:37:37] <Splarka>	yep, oops indeed
[19:37:45] <Splarka>	yet they could still log in and edit, heh
[19:37:53] <Betacommand>	Splarka: remember the fubar on en about users starting with a namespace alias ?
[19:38:00] <Splarka>	yes, yes I do
[19:38:03] <Splarka>	unblockable vandals
[19:43:33] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) nosummary option conflicts with forceeditsummary option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18699 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (umherirrender_de.wp)
[19:50:48] <CIA-15>	03raymond * r50278 10/trunk/extensions/ (51 files in 40 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-05-06 19:30 UTC)
[20:00:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow inline style declarations to be post-applied onto eventual upload-protected SVG images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18636  (10azatoth)
[20:02:14] <CIA-15>	03ialex * r50279 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Setup.php: If passing a callback in an array in $wgExtensionFunctions, fix the profile name to not have 'Setup.php-extensions-Array'
[20:02:34] <AzaTht>	could anyone confirm my above logic
[20:09:07] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Link to section does not work in edit summaries in case of multiple sections with the same name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18700 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (bdanee88)
[20:23:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Link to section does not work in edit summaries in case of multiple sections with the same name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18700  +comment (10church.of.emacs.ml)
[20:25:01] <CIA-15>	03ialex * r50280 10/trunk/extensions/Purge/Purge.php: 
[20:25:01] <CIA-15>	* Added URL in extension's credits
[20:25:01] <CIA-15>	* Removed extension function, define all when including the file
[20:25:01] <CIA-15>	* Use static methods in PurgeAction class rather than creating an instance
[20:25:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Return to page after edit of section (where section name occurs multiple times) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111  +comment (10church.of.emacs.ml)
[20:30:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable TTF file uploads on Wikimedia projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18692  (10rememberthedot)
[20:34:21] <CIA-15>	03ialex * r50281 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (CHANGELOG Configure.php Configure.settings-ext.txt): Added support for Purge extension
[20:34:50] <danimo>	moin
[20:35:19] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Database dump processes halted since 26-Feb-09 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17535  +comment (10tfinc)
[20:35:50] <danimo>	is the option to use a search engine in wikipedia in Special:Search somthing post 1.14, or done via a plugin that I missed?
[20:36:20] <rainman_>	it's javascript
[20:36:53] <danimo>	rainman_: huh?
[20:37:23] <rainman_>	ok then be more precise :)
[20:37:30] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Imagick support in SVG to PNG conversion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18691  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[20:37:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add support for Imagick PHP extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14706  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[20:38:03] <danimo>	rainman_: I am running 1.14 wikis and I want to use this feature. it doesn't seem to be there by default, the docs revealed nothing obvious
[20:38:31] <rainman_>	which feature exactly? the ability to chose a search engine (e.g. google, yahoo, etc) in special:search?
[20:38:41] <danimo>	rainman_: aye
[20:38:53] <rainman_>	well, it's added by custom site javascript
[20:39:15] <danimo>	rainman_: ah, ok, is there any documentation about it?
[20:39:41] <danimo>	rainman_: alternatively, a pointer would be cool as well :)
[20:39:42] <rainman_>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js/search.js
[20:40:08] <rainman_>	add that to your common.js
[20:40:50] <danimo>	rainman_: ok, tnx. too bad its per instance, though
[20:41:02] *danimo 	wonders why it has to use js in the first place :)
[20:42:25] <Bagualas>	why when I change the SideBar it doesnt change nothing
[20:42:36] <Bagualas>	sidebar is the menu from left?
[20:48:16] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Link to section does not work in edit summaries in case of multiple sections with the same name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18700  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[20:48:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Return to page after edit of section (where section name occurs multiple times) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[20:52:38] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) action=edit&section=NAME not NUMBER is smarter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15575  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[20:52:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) edit sections by name and allow to create sections with previously nonexistent names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9239  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[20:52:58] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Negative section index should select nth section from bottom - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10361  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[20:53:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) index.php parameter for editing last section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9932  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[20:53:18] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Link to section does not work in edit summaries in case of multiple sections with the same name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18700  +comment (10bdanee88)
[20:55:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Link to section does not work in edit summaries in case of multiple sections with the same name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18700  (10innocentkiller)
[20:55:59] <Bagualas>	why when I change the SideBar it doesnt change nothing? sidebar is the menu from left?
[21:04:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Link to section does not work in edit summaries in case of multiple sections with the same name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18700  normal->low; +comment (10bdanee88)
[21:06:06] <CIA-15>	03rainman * r50282 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialSearch.php: Follow-up for r50207: mysql won't estimate total number of hits, so don't show it - copied from SpecialSearchOld more or less.
[21:14:32] <CIA-15>	03daniel * r50283 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWordBuilder4Biography/src/main/java/de/brightbyte/wikiword/biography/wikis/WikiConfiguration_dewiki.java: refined patterns
[21:15:23] <CIA-15>	03daniel * r50284 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWordBuilder/src/main/java/de/brightbyte/wikiword/analyzer/ (4 files in 3 dirs): improve sensors
[21:15:59] <CIA-15>	03daniel * r50285 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWordBuilder/src/main/java/de/brightbyte/wikiword/ (9 files in 2 dirs): standalone property extraction
[21:26:28] <CIA-15>	03dale * r50286 10/branches/new-upload/phase3/includes/ (HttpFunctions.php api/ApiBase.php): updated error handling
[21:31:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Allpages doesn't show all articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18690  +comment (10jidanni)
[21:46:28] <chuck>	Is it possible to create a recent changes RSS feed of a single page?
[21:46:46] <chuck>	Oh yeah there is, nevermind :P
[22:02:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Logo change for mk.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18652  +comment (10nikolau.mk)
[22:04:54] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Allow inline style declarations to be post-applied onto eventual upload-protected SVG images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18636  +comment (10brion)
[22:16:30] <CIA-15>	03dale * r50287 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/ (6 files in 5 dirs): 
[22:16:30] <CIA-15>	* per clip buffer indicators in video sequences
[22:16:30] <CIA-15>	* upload api integration updates
[22:25:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Screen all previously-uploaded SVG files for invalid structure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13196  +comment (10brion)
[22:25:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Database table cleanup (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16660  (10brion)
[22:26:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Link to section does not work in edit summaries in case of multiple sections with the same name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18700  +comment (10brion)
[22:26:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Fix fragment identifiers in links to sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5019  (10brion)
[23:09:30] <CIA-15>	03dale * r50288 10/branches/new-upload/phase3/ (628 files in 30 dirs): 
[23:09:30] <CIA-15>	Large Commit: svn merge -r 47809:50286
[23:09:30] <CIA-15>	sync new-upload branch to trunk
[23:10:34] <werdna>	o_O
[23:10:46] <werdna>	mdale: huh?
[23:10:52] <werdna>	How is that syncing new-upload to trunk?
[23:11:24] <mdale>	it updates the new-upload branch to the trunk branch
[23:11:51] <chuck>	What's new in the new upload branch?
[23:12:05] <werdna>	upload
[23:12:08] <werdna>	duh
[23:12:18] <mdale>	it hits on a bunch of bugs: 
[23:12:33] <mdale>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18563
[23:13:14] <mdale>	http copy by url status updates &  firefogg chunk uploads are the big things (in addition to action=upload  added to the api) 
[23:14:21] <chuck>	Wow, was this actually implemented? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18202
[23:14:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Logo change for mk.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18652  (10spacebirdy)
[23:14:33] <mdale>	yep
[23:14:56] <chuck>	Does it just use the job queue, or is it actually a separate process?
[23:14:57] <mdale>	it spins off a php process does updates to the session 
[23:15:33] <mdale>	could support "cancel button" too but.. just getting the basics working for now ;)
[23:15:49] <chuck>	Wow, that's cool. What file is the code for that in?
[23:16:09] <mdale>	HttpFunctions.php
[23:17:06] <mdale>	(it falls back to script-time downloads if we did not find the php path at install time)
[23:18:37] <werdna>	that's pretty cool
[23:18:59] <mdale>	it also adds in chunk uploads... so you can upload large files in 1 meg chunks at a time. 
[23:19:08] <mdale>	(more friendly to POST requests) 
[23:22:08] <CIA-15>	03aboostani * r50289 10/trunk/phase3/includes/parser/Parser.php: Fixed a minor problem with $wgSectionContainers that was causing some divs to not be closed properly
[23:23:50] <CIA-15>	03aboostani * r50290 10/trunk/extensions/EditSectionHiliteLink/EditSectionHiliteLink.css: Changed the default color of the highlight for EditSectionHiliteLink extension
[23:23:59] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Upload-by-URL should run in background, report feedback interactively to user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18202  +comment (10dale)
[23:25:18] <mlei>	hi folks. i copied {{lowercase}} from wikipedia, but it doesn't work on my wiki. i have version 1.13.0 (shipped by sourceforge), is that the problem?
[23:27:02] <Betacommand>	mlei: its probably a javascript or css issue
[23:27:48] <mlei>	Betacommand: ah. yeah, sourceforge's install has it's own customized (for the worse IMO) version of monobook.
[23:29:34] <mlei>	but in general, most of the templates don't seem to work, unfortunately.
[23:32:14] <Simetrical>	mlei, {{lowercase}} uses unrestricted displaytitle, which probably isn't in 1.13.
[23:32:30] <Simetrical>	I'm sure it's in 1.14, though.
[23:32:34] <Simetrical>	Try with that.
[23:32:49] <Simetrical>	It's very unlikely to be a JavaScript or CSS issue.
[23:32:57] <mlei>	yeah i'm sure it's in 1.14, too, but it's a hosted app, so i can't actually do anything about it
[23:36:40] <prefrontal>	how come the api doesn't support uploading?
[23:36:56] <prefrontal>	the mwclient code for using Special:Upload is pretty nasty looking, i'm not enjoying the idea of porting that to c++
[23:38:06] <prefrontal>	hmm, i do see this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Edit_-_Uploading_files
[23:38:13] <prefrontal>	i guess mwclient decided to use Special:Upload anyway..?
[23:38:43] <prefrontal>	oh its just a proposal, sigh
[23:45:06] <werdna>	Simetrical: Is it worth staying in Brooklyn if there's a subway right nearby?
[23:45:17] <Simetrical>	You mean, if it costs less?
[23:45:30] <werdna>	right, for $44/night
[23:45:35] <Simetrical>	Make sure you figure out how long it would take to get to Manhattan by subway.
[23:45:52] <Simetrical>	I've only been to Brooklyn a few times, but I seem to recall it took a while.
[23:46:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable TTF file uploads on Wikimedia projects (font uploading) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18692  summary; +comment (10Platonides)
[23:46:32] <Simetrical>	Of course, I was coming from all the way uptown in Washington Heights.
[23:47:01] <Simetrical>	So that adds like 45 minutes.  If you're aiming to spend your time downtown, it probably won't take that long, depending on where you are in Brooklyn.
[23:47:44] <CIA-15>	03brion * r50291 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/dumpTextPass.php: Fix a silly bug that isn't the mystery dump bug we were looking for, but could result in infinite loop during text pass if it fails just at the right time.
[23:47:55] <prefrontal>	if you plan then i think walking to subway, riding subway, getting to destination should take 30-40 mins?
[23:48:08] <werdna>	It's 15 minutes by L train to Union Sq
[23:48:16] <werdna>	33 min to Times Sq
[23:48:20] <werdna>	http://www.hostels.com/hosteldetails.php/HostelNumber.27128
[23:48:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Link to section does not work in edit summaries in case of multiple sections with the same name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18700  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:48:41] <Simetrical>	That sounds about right.
[23:49:56] <prefrontal>	i stayed in a hostel in the gay district across from a police department. it was the most disgusting hostel i've every stayed in around the world. the only one with dead mice floating in the toilet and real big cockroaches running around
[23:50:11] <prefrontal>	*very* cheap :)
[23:50:14] <werdna>	heh
[23:50:20] <werdna>	you have experience staying in NY, prefrontal?
[23:50:31] <prefrontal>	a few times
[23:50:40] <brion>	ah, new york
[23:50:53] <brion>	we went for a model united nations conference in high school
[23:50:53] <werdna>	I'm after somewhere relatively safe, clean, preferably a private room, and where I can safely leave my expensive laptop without it being stolen :P
[23:50:59] <brion>	across the street from our hotel was a nudie bar
[23:51:03] <brion>	barker stood outside all night
[23:51:05] <werdna>	did you go?
[23:51:09] <brion>	"all night, all nuuuuuude!"
[23:51:16] <brion>	<18 :)
[23:51:19] <werdna>	bah
[23:51:20] <prefrontal>	werdna, sounds like you hit the right price range for that
[23:51:48] <werdna>	well I was hoping to pay roughly $80-90/night like I did in LA, but I think I have to work harder for that price :))
[23:52:00] <CIA-15>	03dale * r50292 10/branches/new-upload/phase3/includes/ (Skin.php api/ApiUpload.php): minor merge fixes
[23:52:08] <werdna>	someplace I can relax would be nice too
[23:52:43] <prefrontal>	a place to relax? howabout moby's cafe: https://www.teany.com/
[23:53:11] <werdna>	no I mean somewhere I can go and sit down with my laptop and chill after being out all day :p
[23:54:04] <werdna>	i.e. the room should be reasonably private
[23:54:56] <prefrontal>	i can't provide much advice on that, i'm a lightweight traveler and always stay in dirty cheap hostels. did you check wikitravel tho?
[23:55:16] <werdna>	I think I don't p=mind being 15 minutes further out of the city if it means I pay $88 per night instead of $119 per night
[23:58:21] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) Spanish wikipedia XML dump problems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18694  +comment (10tfinc)
[23:59:24] <CIA-15>	03dale * r50293 10/branches/script-loader/ (479 files in 29 dirs): 
[23:59:24] <CIA-15>	Large commit: svn merge -r 49532:50286
[23:59:24] <CIA-15>	updated script-loader branch