[00:00:48] 03(mod) Implement the ScriptLoader into the core. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18464 (10dale) [00:05:43] 03dale * r50294 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fixed old jQuery reference [00:15:36] Simetrical: what do you think of this location? http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g60763-d1181739-Reviews-The_Jane-New_York_City_New_York.html [00:15:44] looks like it's west village or so [00:18:29] werdna, heck if I know. [00:19:20] I meant location, not the actual place [00:19:27] presumably you know if it's a safeish area, and so on [00:28:05] hi, how I can to delete the all records of my wiki? [00:30:00] What do you mean? [00:30:46] I want to clean up the "Recent Changes" [00:32:10] or all records to start a new clean wiki [00:32:24] ok i'm getting out of here before i go mad :D [00:32:25] see y'all [00:32:27] without uninstall the wiki [01:03:02] Is there a documented way to print out a page's content without a theme (aka for integrating into other systems such as PHPBB)? [01:03:16] pull from the API perhaps [01:04:10] isn't it doing it as simple? [01:05:22] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&useskin=simple would be the simplest [01:05:29] think you can do it simpler tho [01:06:54] Or would it just be easier to copy a template style from phpbb to mediawiki? (just a header and navigation top) [01:06:59] cridenour, &useskin=myskin [01:07:41] Reedy: yea that's definitely what I was looking for :) [01:07:50] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?action=render [01:08:12] or that ;P [01:10:42] Do you feel think I'll be missing out on any big functionality of the wiki doing it this way (it's really only being edited by a few people, most are just reading it) [01:20:38] 03dale * r50295 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/ (5 files in 4 dirs): stubs for pre-loading future clips [01:21:18] thank you Reedy & anomie! [01:21:23] np [01:21:37] np [01:32:05] is there some extension.can do something like this:put some tag on page A.then the A will auto link to Category B.just like workflu. [01:33:50] you don't need an extension for that [01:33:53] just use a template [01:33:59] !template [01:33:59] --mwbot-- For more information about templates, see . The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions and enabling HTML Tidy . [01:36:02] good [01:37:39] but in a template you cant choose where to output. [01:38:22] sometime i need asign who will get the new info [01:43:24] 03(mod) Imagick support in SVG to PNG conversion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18691 (10yecarrillo) [02:08:06] hi [02:08:57] did brion mention a target date for next scap ? [02:13:18] I was chatting to him today [02:13:22] basically when code review's done [02:13:56] What a surprise [02:29:10] 03aaron * r50296 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.hooks.php: Make sure 'view' link always shows the revision [02:30:28] hi,all [02:30:48] ThomasV_: Early next week is the goal. [02:31:17] how can i add some abstract info on each page.including:last change time,editor. [02:31:37] Why are MediaWiki's cookies so weird :< [02:31:46] As in, the LoggedOut cookie stays there even when the user is logged in [02:33:17] How should I know if a user is logged in? The UserId cookie? [02:41:12] Cookies are just a strange beast period, if you ask me. [02:42:27] How does MediaWiki figure out if someone is logged in? [02:44:11] You should have a cookie .mw_session [02:44:18] For example my wiki is tflca_mediawiki_mw__session [02:44:46] It will have a value equal to a session ID that I believe is held in a table within the database. [02:45:06] I have a cookie with the session ID, but that stays there after one logs out [02:45:32] It will I believe, depending on the expiration. [02:45:40] (You'd think MW would delete it, though) [02:46:01] It should, by default, be set to a duration of "session" [02:46:13] So the cookie will be kept only until you quit or restart your browser. [02:47:06] MediaWiki doesn't delete it [02:47:15] MediaWiki only deletes the UserID and Token cookies [02:48:43] It will be purged by your browser at the end of the session. [02:48:54] What are you trying to do, exactly? [02:49:42] I have to determine if the user is logged in or not [02:49:51] via cookies [02:52:01] I don't see what the issue is then, exactly. If wikimedia deletes the UserID cookie on a logout, then it would be reasonable to assume that would be an indicator of Logged In status. [02:53:27] *chuck wonders how Wikimedia does it [02:53:48] does what? [02:55:17] flyingparchment: Determines whether or not to show a cached version of a page [02:55:25] (based on whether or not the user is logged in) [02:55:49] are you talking about squid caching or mediawiki? [02:55:54] squid caching [02:56:09] 03aaron * r50297 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.hooks.php FlaggedRevs.php): Line breaks & formatting tweaks [02:56:42] Vary:Cookie [02:57:40] flyingparchment: So basically I can just check for the UserID cookie, and if it's not there, just display a cached version? [02:57:50] no, that's not what vary does [02:57:56] What does it do? [02:58:05] it caches a different version of each page for each value of the cookie header [02:58:08] (or set-cookie or whatever it is) [03:00:17] 03(NEW) Hard redirects to Special pages do not work, at least in English Wikipedia. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18701 normal; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (RSYQFIOJGWZA) [03:00:26] Oh I think I found an example of that for Varnish [03:03:25] how can i put last editor on the footer nav bar? [03:06:53] You'll have to edit the skin to manipulate the footer. [03:08:09] flyingparchment: so Vary:Cookie is really only to tell the *browser* that it can only cache the document with the certain set of cookies? [03:08:15] How do I do it on Varnish's side? [03:08:20] no, vary is an instruction to the proxy server [03:08:32] Splarka: r [03:08:34] you should talk to artur at wikia, he uses varnish with MW there [03:08:41] heh [03:08:55] So I do a header() in MediaWiki's config file or w/e, or is it a header I set inside of my varnish config file? [03:09:13] 03aaron * r50298 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/RatingHistory_body.php: Don't show users in ratinghist page if less that two people [03:10:18] 2 years ago: wikia: "wow, servers are expensive" me: "What is Wikia's squid cache rate?" them: "Not good" me: *long rant about squid hits costing like 1/1000th the price of apache hits* them: "Okay, we'll look into it" ... them: "wow, damn advertisement cookies, we only get a small fraction of squid HITS" [03:13:22] heh, the bad math I guessed at: > *squid hit: 0.000003 cents > *apache hit: 0.000111 cents [03:13:47] (using WMF's 2007 number and type of servers, annual hardware budget, cache hit ratio) [03:14:56] My general thinking is "If I can afford a server on near-minimum-wage retail job, I'm sure WMF can" [03:17:40] *Splarka wonders what the hardware budget is of yahoo/google/youtube/live/facebook/msn compared to WM [03:18:57] they can afford to invest in datacenters because they have advertising dollars coming in [03:19:17] Which is why Wikipedia should have ads [03:19:51] *nakon ducks [03:21:09] hi,how can i include a category page in a template [03:21:11] Feh, servers really aren't as expensive as people make them out to be. [03:21:38] flyingparchment: I can't see anything about X-Vary-Options in the wikia Varnish config file [03:21:45] In fact, they actually just unset it [03:22:08] pfruan: Pages can be transcluded with {{ }} in the code. For example {{Template:ProtectedPage}} is one I transclude a few times on my wiki :-) [03:22:49] let me have a look [03:30:38] Pathoschild: ping per http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Magic_words&diff=253796&oldid=253395 [03:32:17] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=49575 creates parserfunctions for many of the revision* parserfunctions, and "{{REVISIONID}}{{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}}{{REVISIONUSER}}" are marked as "expensive"... any idea how to convey such information without '''[expensive]''' or the background color? (since the variable itself is not expensive) [03:33:55] Splarka: Put the usage description on two lines? ie, "Returns foo about page.
[expensive] returns foo about the specified page." [03:34:50] Although the distinction between 'variables' and 'parserfunctions' on that page is less and less meaningful. [03:34:59] hmm, and do that for all the variables that are also parserfunctions? [03:35:01] heh [03:35:05] indeed [03:36:43] Maybe just mention once that all variables/parserfunctions that reference a different page are expensive, unless otherwise noted? [03:37:05] Is $parser->getOptions()->getIsSectionPreview() a core MediaWiki functionality, or is it offered by an extension? [03:37:29] Pathoschild: that is a bit missable though, the point is explicitization [03:37:55] (also, they might be reverted before scap... heh) [03:38:03] I guess we'd need to repeat [expensive] everywhere, or add an expensive (yes / no) column. [03:38:36] The reason I ask is because cite.php uses it, and apparently it doesn't exist. [03:38:56] oh, nm, it is just 'fixme' due to code duplication [03:39:44] Or add a separate section for magic word properties, and link to it from the relevant sections ("Some magic words below are [[#foo|expensive]]")? [03:39:46] hmm, odd, all the {{REVISION*}} Variables are PFs, but only those 3 are expensive [03:40:16] is day/day2/month/year cheap to get? [03:40:46] *Pathoschild grumbles about developers adding great features without considering how hard they are to document neatly. :p [03:41:01] oh, no, they shell out to revisiontimestamp() [03:41:18] heh, okay, so all spensive [03:41:55] and shouldn't {{PAGESIZE}} also be a non-expensive variable? heh [03:42:11] and be renamed to {{REVISIONSIZE}} [03:44:28] hi tim [03:45:37] hi [03:47:01] 03aaron * r50299 10/trunk/ (971 files in 970 dirs): ignore startprofiler.php [03:47:10] Pathoschild: http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Magic_words&diff=253814&oldid=253796 [03:47:31] a background color would be annoying, making it two separate would be ugly [03:48:04] Looks good. [03:48:40] and probably should ditch that red background color [03:48:51] er, or pinkish-orange [03:50:59] crikey [03:51:13] did he just set the svn:ignore property on every directory in the repository? [03:52:52] "Oops"? [03:55:27] Pathoschild: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Technical_metadata ick [03:56:51] yknow, actually, it probably wouldn't even matter just marking the variables as expesive, who is gonna use the revision magic words as variables a few hundred times on a single page? heh [03:56:58] ^expensive [03:58:14] I'm sure someone will do it; Wikipedia:Huge_table_of_huge_Wikipedia_pages, or some such. [03:59:06] I mean as a variable, who wants to see the REVISIONTIMESTAMP for a single page more than once [03:59:29] *Splarka realizes after saying that that /someone/ would... [03:59:54] They might want to see the date of last edit of a whole table of pages in a sortable table. :) [04:01:17] yes yes, and those would be expensive [04:01:18] Someone could, conceivably, add the last edit date of the pages to their Special:AllPages [04:01:42] {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}} as a variable, applying only to a /single/ page, that being the page you are on, is not expensive [04:02:09] And then you factor in ParserFunctions, like "{{#ifexpr:{{REVISIONTIMESTAMP:foobar}}<{{#time:YmdHis|-2 weeks}}|{{REVISIONTIMESTAMP:foobar}}|{{REVISIONTIMESTAMP:foobar}}}}. ;) [04:02:24] Pathoschild: {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}}, not {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP:}} [04:02:29] is what I am talking about [04:02:53] That's not expensive, though, so does it matter? [04:02:55] for simplicity sake we could just treat it as expensive, it only would ever get used as a variable once on a page [04:03:13] Pathoschild: for accuracy in documentation it is annoying [04:03:26] Or just mention it once in a little pinkish-orange box at the top of the section. [04:03:51] "note: this is not expensive when used as a variable" ? [04:04:17] "Note: the following magic words are expensive when you specify a page." [04:05:27] how to put last editor of a page in the bottom nav bar [04:05:28] ahh [04:05:31] well, do that then [04:05:51] pfruan: squish them a lot, it'll hurt [04:06:23] hurt what [04:06:31] I have a stupid question, but the manual is unhelpful. [04:06:46] How do I add a link to the "Toolbox" [04:06:55] pfruan: It will hurt the editors you're stuffing into the bottom nav bar. [04:07:10] Specifically, I want to add a link something like "Purge cache" to purge the server cache of the current page. [04:07:37] why,but i hope they would be glad to see their name [04:08:32] yeah,maybe hurt someone.but how can i hurt them. [04:08:45] flyingparchment: Okay, I'm trying Squid now as it works better with MediaWiki [04:08:55] arrg [04:09:00] Are there any docs on how to make squid use the Vary headers? [04:09:25] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18700 is definitely a dupe of something but while looking I found this: [04:10:04] 1269 Section editing link pointing to wrong section. -DUP-> 966 section edit links have problems with HTML header markup -DUP-> 2128 even 1.5 gets confused on section editing when sections are involved -DUP-> 2607 Manual heading tags (

et al. ) confuse section edit links [04:10:26] is that proper DUP procedure? [04:28:28] Please help? When installing, I get the following error: "DEFAULT CHARSET=binary " failed with error code "You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near ' DEFAULT CHARSET=binary' at line 20 (localhost)". " [04:29:27] 03(mod) New logo for Ido Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18658 (10wyvernoid) [04:30:56] 03(mod) New logo for Ido Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18658 (10wyvernoid) [04:37:28] Does MediaWiki mess with the Cache-Control headers? [04:37:46] For some reason, the expiration is being set to a date in the past, and it's using no-cache as an option in Cache-Control [04:40:51] 03(mod) Uploading office 2007 files (docx, pptx etc) results in error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18684 +need-review +patch (10brianna.laugher) [06:15:02] i've got root - how do i get ops on my wiki? [06:15:59] !rightssql [06:15:59] --mwbot-- INSERT INTO user_groups (ug_user, ug_group) VALUES ('1', 'bureaucrat'); Where '1' is your user ID, and 'bureaucrat' is the group you wish to apply. [06:16:16] zing [06:23:39] 03(mod) Deletion summary lengths problems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12359 +comment (10herd) [06:46:40] ohai [06:46:42] I'm on a plane [06:46:44] wheee [06:47:31] 03(mod) Spanish wikipedia XML dump problems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18694 (10elephantus_l) [06:47:55] hows your ping [06:49:07] 64 bytes from 64.62.141.181: icmp_seq=1 ttl=49 time=189.915 ms [06:49:17] that's a server in fremont [06:50:07] 64 bytes from 64.62.141.181: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=42.3 ms [06:55:28] Splarka can you add this to mwbot for rightssql: select user_id from user where user_name = "Your.Username"; [06:55:50] use eval.php to change rights [06:56:01] i have root but not ops on my wiki [06:58:23] oh no, eval.php is a black hole [06:58:36] i'll stick with mysql tx:) [06:59:42] $u = User::newFromName( 'Username' ) [06:59:48] $u->addGroup( 'sysop' ); [06:59:52] $u->saveSettings() [07:00:24] maybe that should go in mwbot too.. can i add stuff? [07:00:29] !help [07:00:29] --mwbot-- Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot >, you can find all my source code at < http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn >. A dump is now available at < http://toolserver.org/~amidaniel/botbrain.html > [07:01:01] oh damn, brion ruined the link in the topic [07:01:10] bad brion, no tequila [07:01:15] hehehe [07:03:04] ugh [07:03:52] who's tequila for ? [07:04:08] * Topic is '¡Code Review Cinco de Mayo! Drink a tequila shot every time a commit gets reverted | ........ * Set by brion on Tue May 05 14:26:16 [07:05:16] heh [07:05:20] so brion [07:05:42] I spent some time doing UI stuff with him and trevor today [07:05:43] fun fun [07:05:49] I mean, for the reverter or the reverted? [07:06:52] the audience probably [07:07:55] which in practice means Splarka [07:08:11] the scapmap looks as though brion is avoiding my commits :-( [07:08:51] um that bot tip did not work for me [07:09:05] ThomasV_: what does that tell you? [07:09:11] that reminds me, I need to commit from the plane [07:09:12] good thing werdna's on a plane [07:09:31] I've had it with these motherfsking scaps on this motherfsking plane [07:09:39] hehehehe [07:09:50] werdna: dunno, but it's probably a bad sign [07:09:54] some tell me how to use template?i add an 'edit' button in the template. [07:11:20] pfruan: is this a goal or an achievement ? [07:11:37] when i active edit button,it edit the template self. but what i wannt is to edit the content of the page used template [07:12:01] {{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=edit}} [07:12:14] should edit whatever page you are viewing, even if it is transcluded [07:12:16] ok. [07:12:56] I had not understood the question [07:13:03] *ThomasV_ needs a tequila [07:13:26] or more likely, a breakfast [07:13:36] one tequila two tequila three tequila Tor [07:13:50] breakfast: it's not just tequila anymore? [07:14:13] [{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=edit}}edit] [07:14:39] why.it's wrong? [07:16:02] needs a space [07:16:13] where [07:16:27] [{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=edit}} edit] [07:16:45] you might also want to wrap it in [07:17:00] o. [07:17:34] mornin [07:17:40] .o [07:19:19] it work fine.but not what i want. i need to edit the block producted by the template.not the whole page [07:20:11] something like this site:http://www.disneybox.com/wiki/%E9%A6%96%E9%A1%B5 [07:20:59] you mean edit the template call? [07:21:04] or edit the template page itself? [07:21:13] not template. [07:23:15] the template use some pages. so eache pages'edit should not changes other pages'content which using the same template [07:23:51] the template used by more than pages [07:24:43] i don't think thats how it works. [07:24:56] if you edit the template using that link, it will modify all the pages. [07:25:13] if you don't want that you'll have to do something else. [07:26:06] pfruan: if you mean the {{templatename|parameter=value|parameter=value|parameter=value|parameter=value|parameter=value|parameter=value|parameter=value}} bit, that isn't possible, the best thing to do is click the [edit] link on the section the template is in [07:26:22] er, if you mean, edit just that {{}} bit [07:27:14] oops, I meant add [07:27:16] 03werdna * r50300 10/trunk/phase3/StartProfiler.php: Remove StartProfiler.php, removed with no explanation in r50299, causing fatals on all installations. [07:27:50] that's right guys [07:27:54] I committed from a fucking plane [07:29:41] werdna: did you happen to see the previous commit, 50299? [07:30:20] I just partially reverted i... [07:30:21] it* [07:30:24] 50299 is completely broken :P [07:30:31] maybe i should use section edit.?that is a choose. [07:30:50] okay, 969 to go ^_^ [07:30:53] ialex: yes, and I just fixed it [07:31:13] werdna: properties are also broken :) [07:31:34] well you fix that [07:31:41] i fail at properties [07:31:48] I don't even know how they work :P [07:31:55] and it was fun: crikey [07:31:59] how stereotypical ^_^ [07:32:02] svn merge -c-50299 [07:33:54] does that work? [07:33:55] *werdna tries [07:37:26] hello everyone [07:37:40] hi [07:37:59] i requested that transliteration support be added to tajik wiki [07:38:07] around a year ago [07:38:11] but i can't remember how i did it [07:38:16] and someone is asking me [07:38:26] so, does anyone know where those files are kept in mediawiki SVN ? [07:38:59] "those files"? [07:39:17] what'S the languzage code for tajik? [07:39:24] Duesentrieb, tg [07:39:29] hi all [07:39:35] Duesentrieb, i recall sending a file [07:39:35] got a question for you :P [07:39:38] with a transliteration table [07:39:44] suppose i've got a template [07:40:09] and suppose that i don't have to fill al the parameters [07:40:13] *all [07:40:24] well, i want (in the page) [07:40:37] that parameters not filled won't be displayed [07:40:40] how can i get it? [07:41:18] 03werdna * r50301 10/trunk/ (1053 files in 976 dirs): Revert r50299 completely, looks totally broken. [07:41:29] \o/ [07:42:09] spectie: http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/languages/classes/LanguageTg.php [07:42:17] gonna sign off for a bit [07:42:27] spectie: note that the server doesn't know that the file is UTF-8, so it may look broken in your browser [07:42:31] !parserfunctions | ZioCorto [07:42:31] --mwbot-- ZioCorto: "Parser functions" are a way to extend the wiki syntax. ParserFunctions is an extension that provides the basic set of parser functions (you have to install it separately!). For help using parser functions, please see . For details about the extension, see . [07:42:53] roger Splarka [07:43:03] excellent thanks!! [07:43:04] the basic use of which would be: {{#if:{{{param|}}}| This variable is defined as {{{param|}}}| nothing }} [07:43:26] if you want even more basic hiding, you can just use {{{param|}}} which will show nothing, but you can't control the outer text with it [07:44:40] ok Splarka let me read those pages [07:45:19] should ParserFunctions work for having an arbitrary number of parameters? [07:45:19] huh, that transliteration is odd - the latin side of it has stuff like ƣ [07:45:23] wtf is that? [07:45:33] (the thing I told you yesterday) [07:47:59] 03nikerabbit * r50302 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/StatOutputs.php: * Same hack for transstat.php as in r50125 [07:48:03] ZioCorto: it can be made to [07:48:09] okok [07:48:22] with those pages i'm gonna rule the world [07:48:26] {{#if:{{{1|}}}|something using {{{1}}}|}} [07:48:29] since i'm admin and bureaucrat [07:48:34] {{#if:{{{2|}}}|something using {{{2}}}|}} [07:48:35] etc [07:48:44] up to about 150 is the useful limit, IIRC [07:49:18] if you wanna get freaky deaky there are some loop templates, but we don't advise using them on public wikis: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Parser_function_extensions [07:54:20] I have a problem where after importing pages into a fresh wiki via xml dump import, the browser tries to download index.php when I click on the edit tab. [07:55:26] I think think that this coincides with updating the links table somehow. [07:56:47] Has anyone seen something similar? [07:57:59] do you have a link? [07:59:17] what do you mean? [07:59:28] it it a public wiki? [08:00:21] well, not really but I can give you an account and link if you want to take a look [08:00:41] not really [08:00:48] does it happen when you are not logged in? [08:01:01] umm... let me check [08:01:22] I have to change user permissions [08:04:16] yes, when logged out, I have the same problem [08:05:02] so let's see, it only happens when trying to edit, and it would let you download index.php with what inside? [08:06:29] index.php is a blank file [08:07:37] any errors in error log? [08:09:13] no [08:09:27] any errors in the log are from over an hour ago [08:12:20] makes it kind of hard to pin-point them [08:12:51] do you have some software you can use to capture the http headers? is the response code 200 or something else? [08:13:17] what would I use? [08:14:47] firefox has nice extension for that [08:15:19] I found it, I think [08:17:08] hi.when in a template,there are a big block changeable content. [08:17:23] how can the caller pass argument value to it [08:18:11] pfruan: have you read http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates ? [08:20:01] I installed 'Live HTTP headers' plugin. What am I looking for? [08:20:31] 03j * r50303 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/skins/mv_embed/libEmbedVideo/mv_nativeEmbed.js: remove newline that would result in ; and thus the if statement did nothing [08:20:49] the headers [08:21:12] Keep-Alive: 300, HTTP/1.x 200 OK, [08:21:43] no luck in that [08:22:01] Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 [08:22:03] can you paste all headers for the edit request somewhere (not on this channel) [08:23:07] http://pastebin.ca/1415128 [08:25:09] the only response is HTTP/1.x 200 OK ? [08:26:07] yes [08:27:15] sounds like a problem at the server or php level [08:27:21] is your memory limit high enough? [08:27:55] I have several other wikis installed on this same server without experiencing this problem on any of the others. [08:28:34] I'm running out of ideas [08:28:43] The problem doesn't appear until after I import xml dumps [08:29:33] when I run rebuildall.php I find that the problem appears pretty quickly. [08:30:23] appears after/during running the script? [08:31:46] yes [08:32:45] that was a/b not yes/no question :) [08:33:03] lol [08:33:05] during [08:33:12] Splarka: i've got it working [08:33:44] although, if it doesn't appear during, it often appears after [08:34:29] *always appears after [08:35:13] ZioCorto: good, now stump us with something hard [08:35:21] Splarka: any ideas? [08:36:06] hmmm [08:36:28] mvatki: what is the content type of the file it asks you to download? [08:37:24] according to the header I guess it's "text/html,application/xhtml+xml" [08:37:38] the file is totally blank, though [08:37:50] hmmmm [08:37:56] Content-Type: application/x-external-editor; charset=utf-8 [08:38:03] for an external edit, so that can't be the prob... [08:38:39] Nikerabbit: dunno, possibly bad apache/phpness? [08:39:25] (fyi, this is what an external edit looks like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar?action=edit&externaledit=true ... very simlar) [08:40:01] that is similar [08:40:26] but the content-type is quite different, *shrug*, and it isn't blank [08:40:34] Splarka: don't worry, i've got something, but i don't have time now :D [08:41:19] brion (head dev)'s sig is: Play "stump the developers" live on IRC: #mediawiki on irc.freenode.net [08:42:21] do I win? [08:42:33] yep, you get a free year's subscription [08:42:51] that's exceptional [08:55:30] here it comes the question [08:55:38] i have to set up the mailer [08:55:51] but i can't have a mail server on the same server hosting mediawiki [08:55:54] :) [09:01:30] ZioCorto, don't you just need to change it in the PHP config? [09:01:50] !$wgSMTP [09:01:50] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "$wgsmtp". You might try: !smtp [09:01:59] Reedy: i can't install PEAR [09:02:04] !smtp [09:02:04] --mwbot-- See for information about configuring MediaWiki to use SMTP for sending mails, instead of using the sendmail interface. [09:02:06] ah [09:02:06] we already have a mail server [09:03:27] or maybe we have PEAR and i don't know [09:03:28] lol [09:03:49] phpinfo should tell you that? [09:04:06] i can't access to that server [09:04:22] i don't know neither the exactly address [09:04:30] lol [09:11:00] not working [09:11:01] uff [09:16:12] hmm maybe working [09:16:20] what is the difference between [09:16:29] $wgEmailConfirmToEdit [09:16:33] $wgEnableEmail [09:16:40] and $wgEnableUserEmail [09:16:41] ? [09:17:00] Confirm to edit would presumably be the user has to click a link in a confirmation email after signing up to be allowed to edit [09:17:13] UserEmail would be allowing users to send each other messages [09:17:21] and enable email enables all email comms? [09:23:04] hmm [09:23:13] it seems working but email is not coming [09:23:23] it doesn't give me mailer error but email is not coming [09:23:25] :D [09:30:49] 03ialex * r50304 10/trunk/phase3/t/inc/IP.t: only 1010 tests, not 1120 [09:32:19] Warning: UserMailer::require_once(Mail.php) [usermailer.require-once]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/mediawiki/mediawiki-1.13.2ITA/includes/UserMailer.php on line 114 Fatal error: UserMailer::require_once() [function.require]: Failed opening required 'Mail.php' (include_path='/home/mediawiki/mediawiki-1.13.2ITA:/home/mediawiki/med [09:32:25] ?_____________? [09:32:48] you need Pear Mail for $wgSMTP [09:33:16] and there are ways to get it working without pear? [09:33:29] don't use $wgSMTP [09:33:50] yes, and how can i get it working? [09:36:20] 1.13.2? [09:37:21] yes [09:43:48] 03(NEW) Wrong colors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18702 major; Normal; Cortado: jheora; (Damien.Guillaume) [09:50:15] Duke Nukem Developer 3D Realms Shuts Down [09:51:02] too bad [09:51:15] took forever [09:51:23] took Splarka [09:51:40] tome for something to eat [09:51:53] give him back [09:52:06] *freakolowsky is in a boooooooooooooooooooo[breathe-in]oooooooooooooooooring meeting ... sum1 entertain me :D [09:52:33] time* [09:52:46] unless someone wants a tome [09:52:58] http://www.fark.com/cgi/comments.pl?IDLink=4372897 [09:53:06] (fark Duke thread) [09:55:26] i need to setup a VPN connect ... could do some tweeking from here [09:57:59] 03(mod) Creation of namespace 'Portal' at bar.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16290 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [10:00:46] 03(mod) Creation of namespace 'Portal' at bar.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16290 +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [10:04:33] 03(mod) Create portal namespace for kmwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16022 +easy; +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [10:05:20] it seems like there's no simple way to get the smtp working without installing pear [10:05:26] ? [10:06:42] 03(NEW) PAGESIZE should work as a magic word, and get the correct size of the current page when previewing and saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18703 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (Amalthea.wikimedia) [10:07:18] deja [10:07:48] deja? [10:08:01] 03(mod) Creating portal namespace for et.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16523 +easy; +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [10:08:16] and shouldn't {{PAGESIZE}} also be a non-expensive variable? heh [10:08:17] and be renamed to {{REVISIONSIZE}} [10:08:24] few hrs ago [10:09:04] O_o [10:09:18] 03(mod) Uploading office 2007 files (docx, pptx etc) results in error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18684 -need-review -patch ; +comment (10roan.kattouw) [10:09:49] 03(mod) Create new namespace aliases on en.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16452 +easy; +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [10:11:01] 03(mod) Inconsistent anchor creation breaks links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18431 (10Amalthea.wikimedia) [10:13:08] 03(mod) Change namespace names for arzwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17464 +easy; +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [10:15:17] are there ways to get email working without installing pear? [10:15:38] 03(mod) Transfer of Mot�: lemmata from wa.wiki to wa.wikt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17547 +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [10:15:56] mmm, pepperjack and marmite [10:16:09] ? [10:16:16] 03(mod) Create a namespace aliases on yuewiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18588 +easy (10Wiki.Melancholie) [10:18:17] 03(mod) Create non-expensive variable version of {{PAGESIZE}} for current page, and let it get the correct size of the current page when previewing and saving - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18703 summary; +comment (10herd) [10:22:49] 03(mod) Change "Portal talk" to "Perbincangan Portal" on mswiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9907 +easy; +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [10:24:52] o.0 who is putting EASY on site requests? [10:25:47] I was just wondering the same [10:31:12] 03(mod) Create new namespace aliases on en.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16452 -easy ; +comment (10happy-melon) [10:52:53] hi.. I'd like to count the clicks on links in my wiki to change the link size and/or color of the links regarding to the amount of clicks on them. Does someone have an idea what is the best way to archive this ? [10:57:37] 03(mod) Hide globally hidden user names on Special:Log/globalauth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18183 normal->high (10wikipedia_emails-nachfrage) [11:12:23] 03(mod) Opening a Wikipedia article results in attempt to download gzipped version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7098 +comment (10wikipara) [12:06:59] 03(NEW) Add an unique CSS class or ID to the tagfilter table row at RecentChanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18704 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (Wiki.Melancholie) [12:11:26] 03(NEW) NullPointerException when switching tabs with Safari - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18705 major; Normal; Cortado: User interface; (Damien.Guillaume) [12:25:05] 03(mod) Add an unique CSS class or ID to the tagfilter table row at RecentChanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18704 +comment (10p858snake) [13:24:51] Hello guys, I have a question regarding MediaWiki, can anyone offer me any assistance? [13:25:33] impossible to answer without knowing what the question is [13:25:39] better just to ask the question [13:26:01] and not by private messaging me. ask here [13:26:17] I am stuck with installing MediaWiki... [13:26:38] I got WikiMedia installed, but some errors have occured. [13:27:00] When I try to run the Main page, I get the following message: "Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_CONSTANT_ENCAPSED_STRING in /www/uuuq.com/c/o/n/conrawiki/htdocs/Conra Wiki/includes/db/Database.php on line 1132". [13:27:46] Is there anyone here that has installed MediaWiki and could help me? [13:28:08] which version of php and which version of mediawiki are you running ? [13:28:24] Let me check quickly... [13:29:03] MediaWiki 1.14.0... [13:29:16] And I'm not sure which PHP version...I'm using Zymic to host. [13:29:42] sounds like the file is broken [13:30:11] What happened was I had an error that said something to do with the string, then some person told me to take that string out... [13:30:18] I did, and now I'm stuck with that... [13:30:23] you edited that file ? [13:30:33] This is the site: http://conrawiki.uuuq.com/Conra%20Wiki/index.php [13:30:38] Yes. [13:31:00] Because I was told to place "@" in front of the ini scripts [13:31:03] you might have thought to mention that when you asked :-) so you have broken something. there should be no need to edit that file [13:31:07] Because it gave me the ini something error. [13:31:15] Ahhh. [13:31:31] But they said i should do that. Gah, I should have come here. ;( [13:31:45] Why go to a website that is not affiliated with MediaWiki. :P [13:31:52] So what do you suggest? [13:32:13] restore the original version of that file [13:32:13] I tried deleting the file (database.php) but it won't let me delete it... [13:32:24] I wanted to delete it and upload the one I have on my desktop. [13:32:58] 03(mod) Create portal namespace for kmwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16022 -easy ; +comment (10mikelifeguard) [13:33:25] It is true you need to place a "@" infront of the ini lines if you get an error, right? [13:33:42] 03(mod) Change namespace names for arzwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17464 -easy ; +comment (10mikelifeguard) [13:34:14] 03(mod) Change "Portal talk" to "Perbincangan Portal" on mswiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9907 -easy ; +comment (10mikelifeguard) [13:35:17] Deadmano, don't do that unless you know what causes the error and are sure that you don't want to actually fix it. [13:35:19] Deadmano: Normally you shouldn't get an error and you shouldn't fix it by hacking the file, but yes, a @ in front of the error causing line often helps (because it supresses the error so it isn't shown up) [13:35:35] In the overwhelming majority of cases, you want to fix the error, not add @ (which just shuts up the error reporting). [13:35:55] I didn't know I was "hacking"... [13:36:07] I was told to do so to solve the problem by the Zymic support team. [13:36:25] s/solves/bypasses the issue [13:36:27] Could any of you offer any advice as to what I should do now? [13:36:54] "File "Database.php" can't be deleted" [13:37:00] I can't remove the damage file...;( [13:37:10] What's trying to delete Database.php? [13:37:14] I installed MediaWIki already, did the whole thing and registered. [13:37:14] What's the full path to it? [13:37:16] you probably need to rechmod it so you have rights [13:37:16] I am. [13:37:28] To try and replace the file with the original unscathed file. [13:37:36] I will try that. [13:37:39] How are you trying to delete it? [13:37:50] Over FTP should work, in a typical hosting setup. [13:38:01] I am trying to delete via Filemanager. [13:38:14] as in CPanel File Manager? [13:38:26] Something like that. [13:39:10] So should I use a FTP and try delete that file? [13:39:24] 0.o @ Bug 16022#c2 [13:44:15] Ok, I've used the FTP to delete the file, and now I am uploading the original file. Hopefully it will work. [13:45:37] Now i get the Redirect Loop error... [13:45:53] The original file is restored [13:46:24] When I told the guys at Zymic about this Redirect Loop, they told me to delete the string I mentioned...Is there a way to fix this now? [13:48:38] !b 16022 [13:48:38] --mwbot-- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16022 [13:50:12] 03(NEW) Special:Book using nonexistent system message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18706 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Collection; (happy-melon) [13:51:34] Deadmano, please don't PM people without asking first, it's considered rude. [13:51:50] Saying people's names will usually get their attention just as well. [13:51:51] Asking what? [13:51:58] 03jojo * r50305 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.templates.php: fix message id [13:52:13] Well I've stated my problem, and I just thought the chat somehow died since I was getting no response... [13:52:13] Whoever you were getting help from before is probably clueless. You should start from the beginning. When did it break, and why, in the course of you trying to do what? [13:52:31] 03(FIXED) Special:Book using nonexistent system message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18706 +comment (10support) [13:52:40] Ok, what happened was I started changing all the fiels to have the "@" in front of the ini lines... [13:52:56] Then when i get to the Database.php file, I get the Redirect Loop. [13:53:09] Would you be as kind as to point me out in the right direction? [13:53:14] Don't do that. That's completely broken and ridiculous. Don't use @ unless you really know what you're doing. [13:53:32] . . . hmm. [13:53:39] Either that, or your hosting is broken. [13:53:49] I guess I didn't know what I was doing and I won't be listening to 3rd party sites again. I just want a functional wiki. [13:53:59] As a general rule, do not modify any file other than LocalSettings.php unless you're absolutely certain you know what you're doing. [13:54:12] If you've modified any such files, reupload the original ones. [13:54:18] How would I go about doing a refresh? [13:54:25] How did you install in the first place? [13:54:29] Ok, so U just have to re-upload the files I edited? [13:54:35] Yes. [13:54:49] That will overwrite the changes and restore the correct versions. [13:54:50] I extracted the Files to a folder on my desktop, then uploaded that folder with the fiels ot my account using an FTP. [13:54:56] So do that again. [13:55:02] Everything? [13:55:13] Unless you're sure you can remember exactly what files you touched. [13:55:16] If so, only reupload those. [13:55:24] If you still have problems after doing that, say them here and someone will probably be able to give you correct help. [13:55:29] Ok. And what can I do to fix the errors witht he ini? [13:55:39] Ok then. I will fix the files first. [13:55:41] I suspect your host has given you some trash like safe mode, in which case the best you can do is shut them up. [13:55:56] But if you told me the exact errors, I could tell you more. [13:56:17] Can you suggest a better free hosting site? [13:57:08] if you just want a wiki, why not something like wikia ? [13:57:10] http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Wikia [13:57:33] Free hosting sites are generally terrible. You can get okay shared hosting for like $4/month. [13:57:45] I would prefer a private Wiki though. [13:57:49]