, for instance [09:58:26] i'm a user ofthat wiki, not an admin [09:58:48] 03siebrand * r50885 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/PageTranslation.i18n.php: Tweak 'tpt-badsect' [09:59:49] TomyLobo: That's not possible without editing MediaWiki:Common.css [10:16:12] 03purodha * r50886 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: [10:16:12] Message text rewording to be more precise, as hinted by EugeneZelenko at [10:16:12] http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Support&oldid=1228524#Searchprofile-articles [10:29:17] 03(NEW) "html diff" omits huge portions of changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18872 critical; Normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [10:34:38] domas (or any other DB wiz) ... could you explaing why are char-data fields in user table defined as binary? [10:34:46] Hi all, I'm looking for a Magic Word which takes the *very first* character of {{PAGENAME}}. Do anyone know of it? [10:35:17] freakolowsky: like what? [10:35:20] So if it was used in an article about 'Mot�rhead', it would return 'M' (or preferably 'm') [10:35:39] domas: user_real_name varbinary(255)? [10:35:53] freakolowsky: it is unicode data [10:36:01] case sensitive, etc [10:36:07] thats why it is varbinary(255) [10:36:23] mysql unicode support doesn't go much beyond BMP [10:37:43] 03(NEW) htmlform.js produce javascript error after change a select - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18873 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: User preferences; (umherirrender_de.wp) [10:38:24] hmmm ... so i guess due to the fact Ora is locked into UTF-8 SC in MW by deafult i can have those fields as varchar2 ... [10:43:28] Lademord: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:StringFunctions [10:44:05] Hey thanks Splarka, I hadn't found that one. Checking it out now :) [10:48:02] Sparka, do you know if the StringFunctions are installed on the Wikimedia servers? I'm trying to use #sub but I'm not sure it recognizes the function.. [10:48:33] Lademord: it's an extension [10:48:34] they are not [10:48:43] Damn... [10:48:49] the page that Splarka reffered to also contains a link to the code that's needed for it! [10:48:55] they overcomplicate the language and overstress the servers [10:49:07] 03(NEW) Add enwiki as import source at mediawikiwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18874 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (happy-melon) [10:49:08] some wikis use them, Wikimedia wikis do not [10:49:12] Damn, okay.. I guess I'm just out of luck then [10:49:16] Thanks anyway ): [10:49:33] wikicode is not a programming language [10:50:46] It sometimes feels that way to me :) [10:50:54] *nuke* [10:51:59] from orbit? [10:52:17] it's the only way to be sure [10:52:37] ssh to the ISS and rm -rf [10:55:11] :D [11:09:59] 03shinjiman * r50887 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Literary Chinese [11:31:06] 03shinjiman * r50888 10/trunk/extensions/DynamicPageList/ (DynamicPageList2.i18n.php DynamicPageList2.php): allow message localisation for the DPL description on Special:Version [11:46:26] 03shinjiman * r50889 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): rebuild for all messages files [11:47:28] 03nikerabbit * r50890 10/trunk/extensions/LocalisationUpdate/ (7 files): [11:47:28] * schema.sql for update.php hook, kept the (un)install.sql for testing [11:47:28] * split the functions to class file [11:47:28] * removed the entry point, added cli update.php script [11:57:50] 03(mod) Many MediaWiki: messages not safe in XHTML - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=212 (10niklas.laxstrom) [12:21:05] how to list all the articles names in category and subcategory ? [12:21:45] matata: There is no way to get one list of all articles in a category *and* its subcategories [12:22:42] RoanKattouw, ok, thanks [12:31:49] 03(mod) Incomplete Renameuser cases on Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12969 +comment (10lucasbfr.bugzillaMediawiki) [12:32:45] matata, the categorytree extension might be able to help you! [12:33:30] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree [12:33:35] check mode all [12:35:49] TheDevilOnLine, is it available in wikipedia ? [12:36:13] Yep [12:36:31] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version shows CategoryTree is installed [12:40:33] 03(mod) Incomplete Renameuser cases on Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12969 (10shinjiman) [12:41:26] 03rotem * r50891 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update. [13:02:13] Hi, I share the mediawiki core between 4 wiki portals through the use of symlinks, but one user that use two from these wikis simultaneously is reporting that when he switches between the wikis (authentication required for each one, but uniq ldap server) he is disconnected from the other, so he reconnect on the other wiki, do some changes is when try do something in the other wiki, is disconnected from there too [13:02:40] I already tried change $wgSecretKey [13:02:54] but without success, any tip? [13:04:59] 03shinjiman * r50892 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesYue.php: [13:04:59] Localisation updates Cantonese [13:04:59] obtained from http://zh-yue.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B6%E4%BB%8B%E9%9D%A2%E7%BF%BB%E8%AD%AF/MessagesYue.php [13:07:53] Hi, I had the following error when trying to download mediawiki openid extensions [13:07:54] svn: Working copy '/mnt/upload5/private/ExtensionDistributor/mw-snapshot/branches/REL1_14/extensions' locked svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details) [13:10:46] Maybe you should listen to the help message and run svn cleanup? [13:11:52] Simetrical: how can I run svn cleanup on www.mediawiki.org ? [13:11:56] Simetrical: *cough* [13:12:14] Oh, you were trying to download it from the extension distributor, not using svn co? [13:12:20] Then yeah, that's bad. [13:12:25] Where's someone with shell access? [13:13:09] For now, you could use SVN to download the source code, or get it from http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_14/extensions/. [13:13:30] Simetrical: thanks for the tip :) [13:15:00] Maybe JeLuF could fix? [13:15:20] Simetrical: should I report the bug anywhere ? [13:15:58] That might be good. [13:16:44] buzilla.mediawiki.org ? [13:17:26] Yeah, guess so. [13:17:38] I mean, yes, that's the bug tracker. [13:17:53] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Wikimedia [13:18:55] Q: should i remove user_options blob from oracle DB create scripte, because the field is marked as obsolete? [13:19:07] Hmm. [13:19:13] Check if it's still used. [13:19:22] I'm not sure the conversion to the new system is complete. [13:19:35] proppy, if that was a question, then yes, that will do. [13:20:13] Simetrical: by default it is only converted on save, so both tables are in use [13:20:24] I figured it was something like that. [13:20:29] 03(NEW) Unable to download Extension:OpenID snapshot for 1.14.x - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18875 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Subversion; (proppy) [13:20:34] Maybe should be called "obsolescent" instead. [13:20:41] done, Simetrical thanks [13:21:05] Simetrical: which leads to: http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:UserOptionStats/gender [13:21:06] hmmm ... keeping then [13:21:28] Nikerabbit, wow, is that in core? [13:21:46] freakolowsky, well, if it's not used for new entries, I guess you don't need it. [13:22:01] . . . But dunno. [13:22:03] Simetrical: an extension, where have you been when I committed it :) [13:22:07] Might be best to keep it to be on the safe side. [13:22:12] Nikerabbit, not paying attention, clearly! [13:22:37] Simetrical: and it was like 100 lines of code or something [13:22:57] Wouldn't that be O(N) in number of users, actually? [13:23:24] Simetrical: which? [13:23:51] A query to find the distribution. [13:24:36] Um, how did someone get a gender of "m"? [13:24:56] Simetrical: dunno, currently it loads all users... loops them with User::newFromRow ... with $u->getOption() (which will cause an extra query to lead the preferences from the new table) [13:25:02] so: SLOW!!!!!!!!!1 [13:25:12] Yikes. [13:25:17] Simetrical: some people set it while i were developing [13:25:30] You could do that with a single GROUP BY query now, couldn't you? [13:25:47] Simetrical: it would be much easier if only the new table was used [13:26:35] Ah, right. [13:26:42] We should have a migration script. [13:26:44] Simetrical: if you figure out a way to check whether user_properties are populated... it could take a fast path [13:26:49] Simetrical: there probably is [13:27:18] convertUserOptions.php [13:27:47] I haven't dared to run it yet.. [13:30:32] ok anotherone ... in tables.sql ... what is the meaning of /*i*/ markup before index names? [13:31:00] I think it has to do with the schema being used for both MySQL and SQLite. Not sure. [13:52:28] TheDevilOnLine, can i do the subcategory listing with the api ? [14:01:59] 03siebrand * r50893 10/trunk/extensions/PurgeCache/ (PurgeCache.i18n.php PurgeCache.php PurgeCache_body.php): [14:01:59] * add right- message [14:01:59] * remove trailing whitespace, stylize.php [14:01:59] * add version [14:13:05] 03siebrand * r50894 10/trunk/extensions/SignDocument/ (7 files): [14:13:05] * add right- messages [14:13:05] * remove trailing whitespace, update indentation, stylize.php [14:13:05] * add version [14:15:13] 03(mod) Make Recent Changes available via XMPP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17450 +comment (10hartman) [14:15:56] Anyone why knows anything about what's in extensions/wikiwyg/? [14:17:20] Committers were jasonr, bartek, ashleyemil. All other devs committing to it appear to have done that in mass changes. [14:21:21] siebrand ,did you already check http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Wikiwyg [14:22:22] TheDevilOnLine: no, thanks. Just did, though. Appears to be really dead. Last commit in http://svn.wikiwyg.net/code/trunk/wikiwyg is from end 2006. [14:22:39] their page also still refers to mediawiki 1.10 [14:23:00] lol @ last line [14:23:01] See also * Extension:FCKeditor (by FCKeditor and Wikia) — better WYSIWYG editor for MediaWiki that is actively supported and developed, unlike Wikiwyg [14:23:33] heh [14:23:42] TheDevilOnLine: guess I should tag ik obsolete, so that it's up for removal after 1.16 release. [14:24:02] Siebrand: I concur [14:35:37] 03nikerabbit * r50895 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/Preferences.php languages/Language.php): Revert a bit of too much escaping [14:45:09] <[KrusheR]> hi [14:45:14] <[KrusheR]> is there any flood control extension? [14:50:37] for waterwiki? [14:52:37] <[KrusheR]> Nikerabbit either that or mediawiki [14:52:51] what is flood? [14:57:03] <[KrusheR]> posting fast, like "flooding" a forum. in this case a wiki. [14:57:08] <[KrusheR]> for vandalism or stuff like that [14:57:22] mediawiki has built-in rate limiting [14:57:27] but i think it requires memcached to work [14:57:39] <[KrusheR]> why memcached? [14:57:50] $wgRateLimits [14:58:04] <[KrusheR]> i'll check it out, thx [14:58:13] flyingparchment: really, doesn't it just use what's available [15:16:48] 03siebrand * r50896 10/trunk/extensions/wikiwyg/OBSOLETE: This extension is OBSOLETE. Consider using extension FCKeditor. [15:33:48] mh2: HELP me [15:33:56] Wrong channel. :[ [15:34:03] I need to get used to this split interface of irssi. [15:34:07] *svip ugh. [15:40:04] hello [15:40:11] hello [15:49:05] hello [15:50:12] trying to write an arabic specific extension to match wikilinks after normalizing text [15:50:28] hi everyone; I've got a question about search suggest [15:50:40] it's kinda like doing case insensitive matching but for spelling problems and diacritics specific to arabic [15:50:52] any idea what hooks to use? [15:54:11] When putting: $wgEnableMWSuggest in localsettings.php, my wiki says: Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_variable in... [15:54:51] Should I define it somewhere else first? [15:55:12] <[KrusheR]> you should write "=true;" also [15:55:18] <[KrusheR]> without the ""s [15:55:51] [KrusheR]: Did that [15:56:06] <[KrusheR]> oops [15:56:06] $wgEnableMWSuggest = true; [15:56:32] *Sumurai8 thought it should work, but my wiki refused to cooperate :( [15:56:50] yeah it should work, so it is on every page load? [15:57:45] yes. [15:58:01] this is probably an odd question, but does anyone know whether there is a PHP code to state which namespace the current page belongs to? [15:58:02] Should I define it in defaultsettings or in some includefile? [15:58:03] you sure you didn't delete anything? [15:58:23] if you comment out that line, everything else still works? [15:59:02] <[KrusheR]> MSAJohnny you can tell so by the page name, i guess [15:59:13] rainman-sr: Everythings works fine, but when I try to define that variable, it goes wrong [15:59:46] and it shows an error in localsettings.php or some other file? [16:00:01] ls.php yes [16:00:06] KrusheR, thanks, but I'm looking to class pages by their namespace [16:00:07] *localsettings.php [16:00:42] well that definitely shouldn't happen [16:01:07] you added that to the end of the file i assume [16:01:16] yes, before ?> [16:01:43] hmz, which mw version? [16:01:57] 14.0 [16:02:41] Sumurai8: What is the line before your definition of suggest? [16:02:47] hi rainman-sr [16:02:52] hey Nikerabbit [16:02:53] initial empty :) [16:03:04] rainman-sr: your turn [16:03:06] Sumurai8: The line before it that has content... [16:03:18] hehe [16:03:19] Commented out; [16:03:31] $wgCUDMaxAge gives same error by the way [16:03:31] And before that? [16:03:42] $wgRCMaxAge [16:03:57] >_< You are not really helping. [16:04:00] can you copy-paste your localsettings file? [16:04:07] My point is, I think you forgot a semi-colon. [16:04:11] not here, but in pastey [16:04:44] it's kindof strange you have ?> at the end [16:04:53] i thought we got rid of that a while ago [16:04:56] try deleting that [16:05:05] http://rafb.net/p/1CuKjF15.html [16:05:41] ok then [16:05:46] that's the problem you are missing ; [16:06:06] $wgRCMaxAge = 31536000 [16:06:11] this should have an ; at the end [16:06:27] should do that and then come back ;-) [16:07:20] oh noes, we also now know you db password :P [16:07:27] *svip logs in. [16:08:54] humz... now you know the name of the original founder, who is inactive for over.... uhm.... two years ;-) [16:09:23] so did you get your semicolons right now? [16:09:23] whoaah, it works ;-) [16:09:35] thanks :P [16:09:46] ok then, i'm off, it's 5pm yay [16:10:11] *Sumurai8 works to much with .js, where you don't have to define semicolons :P [16:16:52] 03(mod) Enhance CSS styling of image page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18867 +comment (10happy-melon) [16:24:32] 03(mod) Unable to download Extension:OpenID snapshot for 1.14.x - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18875 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [16:27:40] 03(mod) Enhance CSS styling of image page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18867 (10happy-melon) [16:33:15] 03(mod) Enhance CSS styling of image page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18867 +comment (10siebrand) [16:46:30] 03shinjiman * r50897 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (7 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Literary Chinese [17:08:49] 03(mod) Enhance CSS styling of image page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18867 (10rhaenel) [17:32:17] 03sergeychernyshev * r50898 10/trunk/extensions/Widgets/Widgets.php: Fixed a problem with namespace configuration. [17:34:24] 03shinjiman * r50899 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesZh_tw.php: Cleanup: removing obsolete/outdated messages for zh-tw which are same as zh-hant [17:39:13] 03sergeychernyshev * r50900 10/trunk/extensions/Widgets/Widgets.php: Release 0.8.6 - some important security fixes by Tim Starling. [17:40:01] 03sergeychernyshev * r50901 10/tags/extensions/Widgets/REL_0_8_6/ (. Widgets.php Widgets.php): Release 0.8.6 - some important security fixes by Tim Starling. [17:40:14] 03philip * r50902 10/trunk/phase3/languages/LanguageConverter.php: Follow up on r49157. Fixed the header parsing code to conform to RFC 2616 section 14.4. [17:47:40] test marker -- please ignore this [17:47:55] *Sumurai8 is ignoring :P [17:54:36] test marker -- please ignore this -- last time ;) [17:55:45] Is it safe to move the contents of one image table into another image table, if the images are saved at the same location for both tables? [17:56:06] What's an image table? [17:56:22] It's a table in the DB that contains the reference to all the files/images. [17:56:28] Sounds dangerous. [17:56:56] Hm. [17:56:56] img_user would cause problems unless the user table is the same. [17:56:58] I dunno. [17:57:07] Well, the user table is shared. [17:57:25] The problem is I want a shared image table as well. [17:57:34] But... a lot of the images were uploaded before that. [17:57:43] So on the new wikis, these images aren't available. [17:58:08] I guess you could try. I'd be ready to undo it if it causes problems, though. [18:04:30] Simetrical: Worked fine. [18:04:46] 03(mod) Automatic category redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3311 (10Platonides) [18:04:55] Well, it might catastrophically break later in some unforeseen way when you've been relying on it for a few days and it would be a huge pain to undo. [18:05:02] Good luck, though. Don't see any reason it should fail in principle. [18:05:14] :) [18:20:07] Is there an extension that allows you to modify the "recent changes" for ... certain reasons? [18:22:13] svip: Why would you want to :P [18:22:25] I have my reasons. [18:22:28] RC = some kind of log :P [18:22:42] RC = some kind of *public* log [18:22:48] anyway: I guess not, but you can try directly in database :P [18:25:32] Sure, you can edit any page, svip [18:30:40] svip: U can make special:RecentChanges invisible too... [18:33:49] $wgDisabledSpecialPages = array( 'RecentChanges' ); [18:51:55] 03(NEW) Create new namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18876 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (AheunHana) [18:52:12] *Marybelle looks. [18:53:37] 03(mod) Create new namespace for Korean Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18876 +shell; summary (10public) [18:54:14] 03rotem * r50903 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update. [18:56:38] hello [18:57:23] hello Nikerabbit [18:58:56] Raymond_: if you plan to commit today, do not commit MessagesZh_tw.php; working on that... [18:59:13] ugh, wls. [19:03:00] Does anybody know why I'm getting ref errors? http://illogicopedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Art [19:07:44] hey. Is it possible to have multiple lines in a

within an ordered list item #? [19:07:59] *ordered list item, #? [19:08:33] bi uder [19:08:35] i mean no idea [19:09:00] thank you for the helpful reply :} [19:09:01] i'm trying to figure out why I see errors on this page http://illogicopedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Art [19:09:22] Nerd42: I have no idea why you're seeing those errors [19:09:23] threexk1: between

and

no html can be used... [19:10:04] Nerd42: I'll try to fix for you :P [19:10:23] ok i guess, but i'd like to know what happened :) [19:10:37] Sumurai: right. I have multi-line text within the

though, and it causes the numbered list item to end [19:10:49] ah... [19:10:58] wait 1 moment, i'm searching... [19:12:37] Sumurai8: maybe I should dispense with the wiki syntax and just use an HTML ordered list? [19:12:59] oh, then it won't be indexed properly :/ [19:13:22] yes, wiki-code can't do the job [19:13:55] I'd hoped there'd be something like #{ stuff goes here } [19:14:08] http://rafb.net/p/m87H0672.html just this [19:14:45] Sumurai8: thanks, I'll do that [19:15:27] Sumurai8, figured anything out for http://illogicopedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Art yes? [19:15:30] *yet? [19:15:52] 03(NEW) Import problem on pages with < or > - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18877 major; Normal; MediaWiki: Export/Import; (moissinac) [19:16:17] Nerd42: /me is doing to much on one moment; I'm checking it out right now :P [19:16:32] o i c ... i gotta go in five minutes :) [19:19:27] 03(mod) Automatic category redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3311 (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [19:23:08] {done} [19:34:22] I'm struggling to find and example of language variants actually being used... on zh or sr [19:34:46] and am interested in know of any others which have the feature turned on [19:36:07] TrevorParscal: ku, kk? [19:36:39] tg? [19:37:52] what's odd is how sr is using them [19:38:06] http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B0 [19:38:18] what's odd about it? [19:38:28] look at the urls of the variant tabs [19:38:48] the other sites just append a variant= parameter [19:38:53] this one changes the base url [19:38:53] yeah, i think i implemented that .. and tim activated it only on sr [19:39:02] interesting [19:39:11] since it never went past the "testing" phase apparently [19:39:19] i see [19:39:48] ok, so one thing is I need to handle these variants in my new UI, so i need to emulate them being there [19:40:12] well you can just not use that feature [19:40:15] can anyone give me some pointers on how to enable variants on my wiki (which i am testing on) [19:40:30] just change language code to one with variantes [19:40:32] e.g. sr [19:40:35] rainman__: seems like the feature is not a problem, I was just curious [19:40:37] ok [19:41:04] wondeful! [19:41:12] sorry for the dumb question [19:41:29] now you can read english in cyrillic \o/ [19:41:57] ondeful! [19:42:31] now I need to figure out the best way to show these options... the tabs running of the end of the page are no good [19:42:46] zh has that alternative way i think [19:42:52] rainman__: your work on search is awesome! I have some more input on it when you get time [19:43:15] i have time now [19:43:26] although it's friday evening [19:43:42] right on - I will just email you some mockups then... enjoy your weekend! [19:44:02] great thanks [19:46:05] thanks to all! [20:03:17] 03(NEW) Addition of the local language name for other languages in action=sitematrix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18878 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: API; (sam) [20:06:26] 03(NEW) Nonexistent category pages show useless preview on first edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18879 minor; Normal; MediaWiki: Categories; (matthew.britton) [20:06:56] 03(mod) Nonexistent category pages show useless preview on first edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18879 (10matthew.britton) [20:29:24] 03(mod) Unable to download extension snapshots for 1.14.x through ExtensionDistributor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18875 15enhancement->normal; +shell; summary; +comment (10Emufarmers) [20:31:58] 03kim * r50904 10/trunk/testing/installer/QUICKSTART: quickstart guide [20:46:24] What is the page property type for in Semantic MediaWiki? [20:46:31] Oh, it links to a pge? [20:48:19] how can i limit access to a mediawiki to only registered users? [20:48:31] !userrights | tjefflp [20:48:31] --mwbot-- tjefflp: For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [20:48:56] thanks [20:55:16] 03kim * r50905 10/trunk/testing/installer/QUICKSTART: More quickstart [20:58:32] 03kim * r50906 10/trunk/testing/installer/QUICKSTART: moar quickstart [21:02:39] 03shinjiman * r50907 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/checkDupeMessages.php: Added a script for checks any duplicate messages against a message array for a language, still in a very draft stage. [21:05:13] 03kim * r50908 10/trunk/testing/installer/QUICKSTART: moar quickstart (tidy, TOC) [21:05:38] hmm... [21:08:31] kim: is the wikiation code for wiki farming still in svn? [21:09:04] yes, but it has been moved to testing/ [21:09:52] 03shinjiman * r50909 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/checkDupeMessages.php: treak some messages [21:10:07] 03kim * r50910 10/trunk/testing/installer/QUICKSTART: more detail [21:10:17] chuck, errr yes, it's just not labled as wikiation [21:10:32] chuck, this is the code atm [21:10:34] http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/testing/installer/ [21:10:45] and I'm working on a quickstart guide. [21:11:16] Oh, okay. Yeah I was noticing the commits, I've always wondered how that system of yours worked ;-) [21:11:26] kim: I looked at that before. Looks neat. :D [21:11:41] be aware that there's landsharks circling that code [21:12:05] I don't think it affects anyone but me , but take care and know your copyrights, kay? [21:12:35] I should FMT the quickstart file... [21:13:46] http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/testing/installer/QUICKSTART [21:13:49] here's the url :-) [21:13:51] 03kim * r50911 10/trunk/testing/installer/QUICKSTART: fmt [21:13:58] What do you mean "know my copyrights"? [21:14:19] Understand what rights you have under your own countries laws [21:15:20] I still don't understand, why is it different than other code? :P [21:15:30] I got a nastygram from a lawyer saying someone was retracting my license to use the code (MIT License:http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/testing/installer/LICENSE) [21:15:47] chuck, I am told by people that it isn't. But you should still know about the letter [21:15:59] as long as I tell you about it, I've done my duty I think. [21:16:09] *kim has done so now, so we can get back to business ;) [21:16:46] kim: this code? [21:17:05] yeah, it's kind of weird, since I wrote it, and I didn't actually sign away the copyrights [21:17:14] *Emufarmers is very confuzzled [21:17:21] and it's all under MIT license anyway, so I don't think this lawyer has a single thing to stand on [21:17:27] Emufarmers, you're not the only one ;-) [21:17:39] Yeah I'm still kind of confused, I'm just going to play with it though [21:17:52] You got a nastygram from a lawyer telling you that he had retracted your license to use the code you wrote? [21:18:06] Emufarmers, *exactly* [21:18:10] ugh, licenses [21:18:19] I'd reply telling him "I think you're an idiot" [21:18:21] (also, I don't know if you even can retract a license like that) [21:18:22] but that's just me [21:18:25] *ashley prefers DWTFYWWI license ;-) [21:18:34] the WTFPL [21:18:42] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/ParserFunctions/COPYING?revision=16953&view=markup <--- awesome or what? [21:18:52] OverlordQ, I think my lawyer is thinking of something like that ;-) [21:19:25] ashley, HA! [21:19:29] cool [21:19:38] but he also allows lawyers to send nastygrams ;-) [21:19:44] I'm still confused: didn't you just write this code? :v [21:19:52] ashley: Heh, the DWTFYWWI is a WTFPL derivitive [21:19:58] Emufarmers, I did ;-) [21:20:09] Emufarmers, You're not the only dude who's confused [21:20:33] My laywer and I are going to go talk and straighten things out next week [21:21:12] so for now, I can't say much officially until I have a chat with my lawyer. [21:21:44] what I *would* appreciate is if someone can help me figure out if you can get stuff to work using the quickstart guide... [21:21:53] I'm testing it now [21:22:12] Hmm [21:22:16] I think I might just run it on NFSN [21:22:30] NFSN? [21:23:01] NearlyFreeSpeech.NET [21:23:30] It's a simplish web host, I was going to create a VPS to test this with, but I'll just use the web host. [21:23:59] That sounds cool [21:24:06] 03kim * r50912 10/trunk/testing/installer/QUICKSTART: Much clearer [21:24:16] shoot [21:24:23] $0.25 ? [21:24:30] 03shinjiman * r50913 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/checkDupeMessages.php: some more tweaks [21:25:22] kim: Yeah, the pricing is nice. [21:25:35] shit, I'll never be able to compete with you [21:25:42] I guess I wasn't the first to think of THAT idea [21:25:44] Haha ;-) [21:25:54] (nothing to do with wiki-hosting though) [21:26:11] is this your thing [21:26:16] or someone else's ? [21:26:44] Is what my thing? NFSN? No, I just host random things there. [21:27:00] ahhH! [21:27:04] they are lovely! [21:27:39] you need to update your graph for the sacajawea dollar (or the presidential dollars) [21:27:49] I was thinking of offering virtual machines to people to do with as they will... [21:28:11] 03(NEW) make LogEventsList::showLogExtract() more versatile (patch) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18880 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (happy-melon) [21:28:11] I guess NFSN doesn't quite sell vms [21:28:18] or rent them out [21:28:19] 03(NEW) Populate rev_len field for pre-April 2007 revisions on en.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18881 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (matthew.britton) [21:28:30] No, it's just web hosting. [21:28:57]