[00:05:54] <CIA-9>	03demon * r50922 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (api/ApiBlock.php specials/SpecialBlockip.php): Followup to r50744: Actually declare the method as public static, and use it in the API
[00:12:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Populate rev_len field for pre-April 2007 revisions on en.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18881  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[01:05:45] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Use a 301 status code for redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18883 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Redirects; (Emufarmers)
[01:08:47] <Marybelle>	Seriously?
[01:09:37] <flyingparchment>	who opens a bug and puts IRC log as the description
[01:09:43] <flyingparchment>	that's pretty lazy, and rude
[01:10:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Use a 301 status code for redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18883  +comment (10river)
[01:16:17] <LauraHale>	Emufarmers is love.
[01:16:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Upload errors display pseudo-paths with 'public', confuse users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13812  +comment (10Emufarmers)
[01:20:48] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Supporting the play of MIDI files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18852  (10public.wiki)
[01:24:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Use a 301 status code for redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18883  (10Emufarmers)
[01:26:33] <Emufarmers>	<3 river
[01:29:06] <Emufarmers>	Now I kinda wish I could edit Bugzilla descriptions :/
[01:31:28] <Marybelle>	http://toolserver.org/~amidaniel/chanlogs/%23mediawiki/20081022.txt
[01:31:36] <Marybelle>	Look for Tim talking about redirects.
[01:36:38] <chzz>	dumb q of the day? why does [[Thermococcus litoralis]] appear in italics, and [[Paracerceis sculpta]] doesn't? 
[01:36:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Page Logging portion of XML Dump is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18808  (10tfinc)
[01:40:07] <p858snake>	Emufarmers: log in and should be able to
[01:41:05] <Marybelle>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Str_find
[01:41:10] <Marybelle>	How do they do it...
[01:41:35] <Emufarmers>	p858snake: I mean the actual #c0 description, not the summary
[01:42:10] <p858snake>	of that bugs me, but thats because it acts like a interface to a mailing list from my understanding
[01:42:39] <Emufarmers>	Oh, right
[01:42:58] <Emufarmers>	though it could just send a new email that says "Emufarmers changed his description blah blah blah"
[01:47:21] <Emufarmers>	chzz: maybe one of the templates that Template:Taxobox conditionally includes has DISPLAYTITLE?
[01:48:03] <Marybelle>	I don't believe DISPLAYTITLE supports italics.
[01:48:09] <Marybelle>	It's a JS hack, I think.
[01:48:27] <Marybelle>	Yeah.
[01:48:32] <Marybelle>	Taxobox/title
[01:49:13] <chzz>	Emufarmers thx
[01:50:25] <chzz>	erm
[01:56:08] <chzz>	Emufarmers adding "{{DISPLAYTITLE:'''Thermococcus litoralis'''}}" doesn't fix... am I doing it wrong?
[01:56:39] <Emufarmers>	See what Marybelle said
[01:57:22] <hippietrail>	anyone here know much about makefiles? or apache ant?
[01:59:00] <chzz>	wha? Taxobox/title ?
[01:59:58] <Emufarmers>	chzz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Taxobox_title
[02:00:21] <Emufarmers>	hippietrail: MediaWiki doesn't usually need such things.  Are you setting up Lucene or something like that?
[02:01:01] <Skizzerz>	more recent versions of mediawiki support limited HTML tags in {{DISPLAYTITLE}}, but it currently has some bugs (which I plan on committing a fix for in about 5-10 minutes). Of course, that doesn't help you if you aren't running your own wiki, since the wikimedia wikis don't run that version yet
[02:01:10] <hippietrail>	Emufarmers: i have a toolserver project that needs to download unzip and index each new enwiktionary dump file
[02:01:50] <hippietrail>	but some of the steps are possible to do at the same time and i wondered if make or ant support that
[02:02:56] <hippietrail>	a little off topic i know but not totally
[02:02:59] <chzz>	Emufarmers ni; so what, erm, it calls that template or someth... so, erm., how does the user actually fix the issue to italicise the title? I'm a bit too stupid to understand, apols for that.
[02:06:32] <Emufarmers>	chzz: I imagine one of the parameters in the Taxobox template makes it call that template, but I'm not very good at digging through templates, so you should probably ask Marybelle or Skizzerz or just ask on WP:VPT
[02:06:57] *Skizzerz 	isn't familiar w/ that template
[02:07:20] <Emufarmers>	"Adults are herbivorous and consume algae but juveniles are carnivorous and consume moulting females." yum
[02:12:55] <chzz>	Emufarmers ok, thx. Is beyond me. Is a helpme request; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Smartse#Taxobox_help
[02:25:25] <CIA-9>	03skizzerz * r50923 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Sanitizer.php): 
[02:25:25] <CIA-9>	* Follow-up to r49720: Fix array logic in Sanitizer::removeHTMLtags so that it doesn't strip good tags that were redundantly defined (per brion's CodeReview comment on that rev).
[02:25:25] <CIA-9>	* Remove some trailing spaces
[02:45:29] <green->	i've tried adding permissions to the Administrator group via LocalSettings.php but instead it just creates new groups named Adminstrator and now there are like 4 of the same named group in the user rights management screen ... any idea what i've done and how to fix it?
[02:45:45] <Marybelle>	!rights
[02:45:45] --mwbot--	For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >.
[02:45:49] <Marybelle>	Are you using 'sysop'?
[02:48:49] <green->	Marybelle: i'd happily use sysop, as I have those entries in my LocalSettings.php, but the default mediawiki user I've created doesn't seem to be a member of the sysop group
[02:48:58] <green->	and I'm unsure how to add the user to it
[02:49:26] <green->	if Administrators = 'sysop' in the $wgGroupPermissions array, my system isn't behaving as such
[02:49:27] <Marybelle>	The default user is always an admin.
[02:49:30] <Marybelle>	Are you logged in?
[02:49:31] <Marybelle>	Which version of MW?
[02:49:32] <green->	yes
[02:49:48] <green->	the most current version
[02:50:06] <green->	i've altered group permissions so only sysops have the ability to create, edit, delete (etc) pages 
[02:50:27] <green->	which is working, except that the default user also is not able to edit, create, delete ...
[02:51:04] <Marybelle>	Go to example.com/.../Special:UserRights/DefaultUserName
[02:51:08] <Marybelle>	For whatever the user is.
[02:51:17] <Marybelle>	And see if says you're part of any groups.
[02:51:20] <Marybelle>	Or if you can modify rights.
[02:51:40] <green->	yeah, i'm looking at that now .. a member of Administrators and Bureacrats
[02:52:07] <Marybelle>	So if you're logged in as that user, you're an admin...
[02:52:14] <Marybelle>	You should also have fun tabs on pages.
[02:52:39] <green->	i am logged in as that user, but do not have edit tabs on pages
[02:52:53] <Marybelle>	Did you give yourself the edit right?
[02:52:56] <Marybelle>	Or did you remove it?
[02:53:01] <green->	and if i attempt to edit a page, i get permission denied
[02:53:04] <green->	i gave sysops edit
[02:53:19] <green->	is the sysop index of the $wgGroupPermissions array = to the Administrators group?
[02:53:29] <Marybelle>	Can you pastebin the relevant lines?
[02:53:57] <green->	it is just the sysop section from here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights
[02:54:09] <green->	down at the bottom of that page
[02:56:54] <Emufarmers>	green-: try $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['edit'] = true;
[02:57:07] <green->	Emufarmers: yeah, thats what i have
[02:57:22] <green->	what's the pastebin? i'll pastebin the whole user perms section
[02:57:32] <green->	nm i see it in topic
[02:59:14] <green->	wait, looks like some lines might have gotten deleted somehow
[02:59:15] <green->	grrrr
[02:59:22] <green->	might be off on a wild goose chase here :)
[03:02:13] <green->	i think my understanding of how interacting with $wgGroupPermissions would work was off
[03:02:45] <green->	i assumed that each group had default permissions you could overwrite in LocalSettings.php, but apparently you need to specify all the perms for sysops once you take them away from other users
[03:03:12] <Marybelle>	You know what happens when you assume...
[03:04:13] <Emufarmers>	green-: you don't need to specify *all* of them; you just need to specify those that sysops don't already have (like edit)
[03:04:55] <green->	Emufarmers: and sysops don't have edit by default because it assumes that sysops will gain this priv by being a member of the users group, correct?
[03:05:22] <green->	so when you take perms away from the users, and want the sysops to have them, you have to add them to the array for sysops ... yes?
[03:05:29] <Emufarmers>	Right
[03:05:36] <green->	cool, just making sure i had it
[03:05:53] <green->	i assumed the perms didn't cascade the way they obviously do
[03:06:07] <Marybelle>	* is the group you probably messed with.
[03:06:11] <Marybelle>	* or user.
[03:06:47] <Emufarmers>	Both, probably, if you removed edit rights, since they both have them by default
[03:06:51] <green->	Marybelle: both, actually 
[03:07:02] <green->	anyway, sorry for the confusion and thanks for the help
[03:07:07] <Marybelle>	Tsk.
[03:10:06] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Special:Properties doesn't always display page count - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18884 minor; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (henrigerrits)
[03:15:57] <green->	is there a way to edit the default HTML template for a skin? i'm looking inside skins/monobook and skins/common but see only png and css files
[03:17:11] <green->	ah, perhaps MonoBook.php
[03:17:16] <green->	off plain old skins/
[03:50:28] <green->	does a page in mediawiki have DB properties that can be easily modified?
[03:50:55] <green->	other than the body of a page, is it possible to define fields/properties of a page that a user can define when editing?
[04:02:07] <green->	or ... what about an extension that would generate page output before the rendering of the skin?
[04:14:14] <kingsley>	Can mediawiki's search functionality direct a web site's visitor to an image based on a keyword the visitor searched for? If so, where are the keywords stored? In the image's exif data? In html surrounding the image?
[04:21:34] <p858snake>	green-: all users groups have the plain users group permissions (the * star group) and then any permissions that their group is given over rides them
[04:22:03] <prodego>	slight clarification, * applies to non-user accounts, that is, anon editors
[05:31:10] <charitwo>	r
[05:33:54] <p858snake>	s
[05:35:40] <Splarka>	tea?
[05:37:14] <Splarka>	hmmmmm
[05:37:22] <Splarka>	is https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18883 a dupe of https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11946 ?
[05:37:40] <Splarka>	the phrasing on that latter one seems confusinged
[05:39:04] <p858snake>	well i would would dup them, but thats just me personally >.>
[05:58:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Use a 301 status code for redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18883  (10herd)
[06:02:15] <CIA-9>	03nad * r50924 10/trunk/extensions/RecordAdmin/ (RecordAdmin.i18n.php RecordAdmin.php RecordAdmin_body.php): add a new special column containing a checkbox for selecting result rows
[06:05:11] <CIA-9>	03nad * r50925 10/trunk/extensions/RecordAdmin/RecordAdmin_body.php: remove debugging
[06:20:56] <svip>	Can I disable upload on my wiki, but still have it on a pool wiki?
[06:21:19] <svip>	In addition, can I disable upload, but still have unuploaded images refer to an upload on the pool wiki?
[06:23:08] <Splarka>	svip: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:Upload
[06:23:14] <Splarka>	notice the 'upload file' link in the toolbox
[06:23:19] <Splarka>	is that what you mean?
[06:23:46] <svip>	Well, I have that Splarka.
[06:23:59] <svip>	But imagine I insert a [[File:<some image>.png]] into an article.
[06:24:12] <svip>	Won't that point to the local Special:Upload rather than Pool version?
[06:24:55] <Splarka>	hmm, yah
[06:27:31] *Splarka 	looks at the code
[06:28:55] <Splarka>	ew
[06:29:40] <svip>	oi
[06:29:49] <Splarka>	it only works if uploads are enabled, and only for the local specialpage
[06:29:59] <Splarka>	open a bug
[06:30:11] *svip 	does.
[06:31:01] <Splarka>	hmm, though http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgRemoteUploads might do it
[06:31:17] <Splarka>	doesn't seem set on any WMF wiki
[06:32:02] <Splarka>	huh
[06:32:05] <Splarka>	http://google.com/codesearch?num=100&q=package:svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk+file:phase3/+wgRemoteUploads
[06:32:17] *Splarka 	wonders if it is useless now
[06:41:59] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Unuploaded images inserted within pages does not refer to a site-wide upload page, but rather the local - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18885 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; (svippy)
[06:42:28] <svip>	That was quick.
[06:44:39] <yoyo[RKN]>	moin
[07:39:42] <MrHappy>	Quick question, is it possible to send an email to all the users of your wiki?
[07:47:08] <ThomasV>	it depends on your internet provider :-)
[07:47:47] <Nikerabbit>	ugga bugga
[08:07:48] <CIA-9>	03siebrand * r50926 10/trunk/extensions/RecordAdmin/RecordAdmin.i18n.php: Revert accidental (?) replacement of ellipsis by "..." from r50924
[08:15:02] <CIA-9>	03siebrand * r50927 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/messageTypes.inc: Revert own r50862 ('pipe-separator' from optional to ignored). Customising may make sense if word-separator is ''.
[08:17:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Job queue estimate often woefully inaccurate; need a better strategy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9518  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[08:22:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Recentchanges for logged-in users uses way too many queries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18229  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[08:27:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:RecentChanges with only show edits by bots selected does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12781  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[08:35:24] <CIA-9>	03siebrand * r50928 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (49 files): Localisation updates for core messages from translatewiki.net (2009-05-23 08:16 UTC)
[08:39:17] <CIA-9>	03siebrand * r50929 10/trunk/extensions/ (70 files in 60 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-05-23 08:16 UTC)
[08:42:24] <CIA-9>	03nikerabbit * r50930 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/DefaultSettings.php): * (bug 9257) $wgRCMaxAge now defaults to three months
[08:43:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Consider $wgRCMaxAge when generating limit links for recent changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9257  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[08:46:53] <fahadsadah>	Unclosed <ref> tags cause missing text.
[08:47:24] <flyingparchment>	obviously
[08:48:18] <fahadsadah>	flyingparchment: I know, but it's causing a lot of problems with newbies.
[08:48:36] <OverlordQ>	trout them harder
[08:48:41] <flyingparchment>	well, unless you want MW to magically guess where the </ref> is meant to be, that's not fixable
[08:48:50] <fahadsadah>	A warning would be nice.
[08:52:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Capitalization consistency in special pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11986  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[08:55:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Installation (1.6.5) hangs in Solaris 9 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6026  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[08:59:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Move RecentChanges timestamp leftward so columns line up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18305  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[09:05:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Make recent change flags acronyms instead of spans - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16311  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[09:06:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Use more sensible time intervals in recent changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11551  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[09:06:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add pagination (offset, prev/next, until/from/to) to Special:RecentChanges UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18228  (10N/A)
[09:11:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add pagination (offset, prev/next, until/from/to) to Special:RecentChanges UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18228  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[09:12:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Make recent change flags acronyms instead of spans - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16311  (10N/A)
[09:43:31] <CIA-9>	03shinjiman * r50931 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesZh_tw.php: Cleanup: removing obsolete/outdated messages for zh-tw which are same as zh-hant
[10:06:24] <CIA-9>	03shinjiman * r50932 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/checkDupeMessages.php: added support to output as PHP syntax
[10:14:39] <CIA-9>	03nikerabbit * r50933 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
[10:14:39] <CIA-9>	* $wgDevelopmentWarnings can be set to true to show warnings about deprecated
[10:14:39] <CIA-9>	functions and other potential errors when developing.
[10:14:39] <CIA-9>	* (bug 14118) SpecialPage::getTitleFor does not return a localised name
[10:15:31] <werdna>	Nikerabbit: \o/
[10:15:35] <werdna>	I've wanted that for a while!
[10:16:11] <werdna>	Nikerabbit: you should add a function wfDevelopmentWarning() to display then :))
[10:17:00] <CIA-9>	03nikerabbit * r50934 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialPage.php: Grammar? English doesn't use {{GRAMMAR}} :o
[10:17:08] <Nikerabbit>	werdna: it's called wfWarn for now
[10:17:15] <werdna>	okay that's cool :)
[10:17:18] *vvv 	is thinking of ways to import pages with long-long histories
[10:18:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SpecialPage::getTitleFor does not return a localised name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14118  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[10:18:25] <Nikerabbit>	afk
[10:20:34] *vvv 	is going to write DeferredExternalStore
[10:22:07] <werdna>	o rly
[10:22:10] <werdna>	what will it do?
[10:23:32] <vvv>	werdna: it will handle not yet imported revisions from another wikis
[10:24:33] <vvv>	Hmm... Are external store blobs supposed to be ever deleted?
[10:59:06] <CIA-9>	03shinjiman * r50935 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/checkDupeMessages.php: tweak the message for check whether the message array is set
[11:14:13] <CIA-9>	03ashley * r50936 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserStats/UserStatsClass.php: SocialProfile: bugfixes + documentation + converted a couple raw SQL queries to use Database class in UserStatsClass.php
[11:29:17] <massctrl>	Hi, can anyone tell me the easiest way to add an rss feed of a category of articles to mediawiki?  I was trying out Wikiarticlefeed but it's not working and outdated, ... 
[12:14:49] <massctrl>	Hi is there a way to disable caching for only 1 page?
[12:26:40] <Stanlin>	dir
[12:26:41] <Stanlin>	ls
[12:27:11] <Stanlin>	how to restrict content for specific users?
[12:27:41] <RoanKattouw>	!protect | Stanlin 
[12:27:41] --mwbot--	Stanlin: You can protect pages to prevent them from being edited by certain user groups. When a page is deleted its' protection is retained. Also you can protect nonexistant pages since 1.12. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Administrators#Protections>
[12:28:03] <Stanlin>	i also want the content not to be seeing
[12:28:57] <p858snake>	!cms | Stanlin
[12:28:57] --mwbot--	Stanlin: Wikis are designed for openness, to be readable and editable by all. If you want a forum, a blog, a web authoring toolkit or corporate content management system, perhaps don't use wiki software. There is a nice overview of free tools available at <http://www.opensourcecms.com/> including the possibility to try each system. For ways to restrict access in MediaWiki, see !access.
[12:29:24] <Stanlin>	!access
[12:29:24] --mwbot--	For information on customizing user access, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights>. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access>.
[12:34:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Use a 301/302 status code for redirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18883  summary; +comment (10Emufarmers)
[12:53:12] <green->	anyone know how to get a definition of exactly what each attribute of OutputPage corresponds to
[12:54:12] <green->	some of them are self explanatory ... some less so
[13:29:42] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Provide preference-based autoformatting for unlinked dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4582  +comment (10richard)
[13:35:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Set $wgUseDynamicDates = false for the English Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18479  +comment (10richard)
[14:25:52] <CIA-9>	03purodha * r50937 10/trunk/extensions/UserOptionStats/UserOptionStats.i18n.php: 
[14:25:52] <CIA-9>	Message cosmetic according to request of EugeneZelenko at
[14:25:52] <CIA-9>	http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Support&oldid=1231070#Useroptionstats-desc
[14:26:41] <HackChirHack>	Hello, I have had a problem when I tried to download a MediaWiki extension
[14:27:49] <HackChirHack>	http://rafb.net/p/9AZA9V73.html
[14:28:24] <HackChirHack>	Il someone can explain me, Thanks
[15:22:28] <green->	i'm hoping to write a very simple extension that utilizes OutputPageBeforeHTML hooks ... can anyone suggest a good tutorial?
[15:28:05] <CIA-9>	03philip * r50938 10/trunk/phase3/languages/LanguageConverter.php: Follow up on r49157 and r50902. Fixed the header parsing code to conform to RFC.
[15:43:57] <effeietsanders>	hi guys, does anyone know whether there is an overview somewhere of all possible math makeup-languages that are somehow supported in mediawiki?
[15:54:05] <vvv>	effeietsanders: I thought we support only one language
[15:54:24] <effeietsanders>	vvv: I also mean extensions
[15:55:04] <effeietsanders>	I read some things about MathML but could not determine how well it was supported
[15:55:25] <effeietsanders>	as in, how complete it is, whether people worked with it
[16:08:23] <kingsley>	Have the recent forks and strain within mysql's community hurt mediawiki, which uses mysql?
[16:09:00] <mark>	mediawiki uses mysql 4 :)
[16:12:58] <kingsley>	mark: That may be, although I happened to notice that at least one of debian's mediawiki packages recommends any version of mysql, with the current one being 5.1.34.
[16:13:36] <mark>	yes, so as long as mysql remains backward compatible to 4...
[16:15:35] <kingsley>	mark: Is my guess correct that you use mysql, and that you haven't yet been hurt by the recent forks and strain in mysql's community?
[16:16:20] <mark>	yes
[16:18:07] <kingsley>	good
[16:35:21] <seanw>	Heya
[16:35:32] <seanw>	Is listing on http://svn.wikimedia.org/users.php automatic for those with svn commit access or is it manually added to?
[16:40:49] <vvv>	seanw: automatic, I think
[16:40:57] <seanw>	Good.
[16:40:57] <seanw>	Thanks.
[16:41:22] <vvv>	seanw: it looks like it uses USERINFO files
[16:43:08] <seanw>	vvv, what if someone doesn't add such a file?
[16:43:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Creation of namespace 'Portal' at bar.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16290  (10peter.spiess.jun)
[16:46:51] <vvv>	seanw: then he will not have additional info added about him
[16:47:12] <seanw>	But will still be in the list?
[16:48:12] <vvv>	Yes
[16:48:31] <seanw>	Excellent thanks.
[17:17:44] <Mike94287>	Is there a way to revert all the things a certain user has done? Someone vandalized my wiki and some things I can't rollback because "User is the only contributer to this page" or something like that.
[17:18:13] <Marybelle>	!e Nuke
[17:18:13] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Nuke
[17:18:15] <Marybelle>	Try that.
[17:19:42] <Mike94287>	Okay thanks
[17:26:56] <CIA-9>	03shinjiman * r50939 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialVersion.php: 
[17:26:56] <CIA-9>	tweak message for nodb on Special:Version
[17:26:56] <CIA-9>	tweak the copyright sign on Special:Version
[17:50:21] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) PDFs created by Wikipedia are viewable but will not print - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18886 major; Normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (lbickley)
[17:54:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) PDFs created by Wikipedia are viewable but will not print - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18886  major->normal (10raimond.spekking)
[17:57:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Job queue estimate often woefully inaccurate; need a better strategy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9518  (10matthew.britton)
[17:58:20] <Nikerabbit>	hello
[18:00:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add pagination (offset, prev/next, until/from/to) to Special:RecentChanges UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18228  (10matthew.britton)
[18:02:48] <CIA-9>	03shinjiman * r50940 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/ (languages.inc transstat.php): added fallback code display on the translation statistics.
[18:07:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add pagination (offset, prev/next, until/from/to) to Special:RecentChanges UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18228  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[18:11:02] <CIA-9>	03nikerabbit * r50941 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/TranslateEditAddons.php: * Fix special page case
[18:18:58] <Nikerabbit>	hi RoanKattouw 
[18:19:06] <RoanKattouw>	Hi Nike
[19:15:16] <fale>	it seems that the extention svn is lonked
[19:15:19] <fale>	*locked
[19:23:28] <Nikerabbit>	fale: extension distributor?
[19:23:43] <fale>	Nikerabbit: yep
[19:23:54] <Nikerabbit>	known, nobody to fix it
[19:24:02] <fale>	I see
[19:26:21] <CIA-9>	03shinjiman * r50942 10/trunk/phase3/ (15 files in 3 dirs): 
[19:26:21] <CIA-9>	* (bug 18698) Renaming non entry point maintenance scripts from .inc.php to .inc
[19:26:21] <CIA-9>	patch by Karun Dambiec
[19:26:44] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Use file.inc or file.php, not file.inc.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18698  +comment (10shinjiman)
[20:01:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Use file.inc or file.php, not file.inc.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18698  -need-review +reviewed (10karun)
[20:24:27] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Preceding text and single apostrophes are not included in links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=468  +comment (10richard)
[21:35:46] <OverlordQ>	any particular reason why the key on ipb_address was dropped?
[21:45:04] <Nikerabbit>	ugga
[21:52:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Preceding text and single apostrophes are not included in links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=468  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[22:03:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Preceding text and single apostrophes are not included in links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=468  (10richard)
[22:39:48] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Make contribs link red if no contribs exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18887 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (Daedalus969)
[23:08:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Make contribs link red if no contribs exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18887  +comment (10siebrand)
[23:08:49] <Splarka>	siebrand: heh
[23:08:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Link to user contributions should appear red when there are none - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4393  +comment (10herd)
[23:08:57] <Splarka>	I was gonna reply but got distracted looking at the code
[23:09:02] <Splarka>	also, possibly a dupe of that ^
[23:09:30] <siebrand>	Splarka: just checked on translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Log. It's WFM...
[23:09:42] <siebrand>	Splarka: maybe someone did a style override?
[23:09:55] <Splarka>	well, as far as I can see...
[23:09:58] <Splarka>	> public function userToolLinks( $userId, $userText, $redContribsWhenNoEdits = false, $flags = 0, $edits=null ) {
[23:10:03] <Splarka>	notice the third parameter...
[23:10:27] <Splarka>	it only seems to be true for Special:Log
[23:10:38] <Splarka>	and more specifically to the newuserlog... maybe?
[23:11:14] <siebrand>	Splarka: what other lists will contain user edits for users without edits. (does that even compute? :P)
[23:11:41] <Splarka>	other log events
[23:12:02] <Splarka>	Special:Log and Special:RecentChanges
[23:12:20] <siebrand>	Splarka: blocked users without edits; maybe. But I'd close it as WFM and if he's going to be more specific, maybe we can look into it?
[23:12:34] <Splarka>	well
[23:12:42] <Splarka>	if it is a WFM it is also a dupe of 4393
[23:12:51] <Splarka>	if he is asking for it for Special:Log in general it is probably WONTFIX
[23:13:24] <Splarka>	siebrand: but for example someone uploading a file or moving a page with no edits, will show in recent changes with a blue contribs link
[23:13:27] <siebrand>	Splarka: I'll let you do the honours and I'll go to bed...
[23:13:35] <Splarka>	it would be quite handy to see it as a redlink 
[23:13:40] <Splarka>	"oh, hey, that noob is moving pages"
[23:13:51] <Splarka>	hmm
[23:13:57] *Splarka 	greps
[23:14:45] <Splarka>	Linker, SpecialNewpages, ChangesList, LogPage, ImagePage, RevisionDelete, SpecialIpbloclist, SpecialListUserRestrictions, LogEventList, SpecialRemoveRestrictions, SpecialUndelete
[23:14:51] <Splarka>	it is used a lot of places
[23:15:11] <Splarka>	it is only true for newuser log though
[23:15:24] <Splarka>	hmm
[23:15:29] *Splarka 	integrates your comments
[23:18:20] <Splarka>	siebrand: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18887#c2
[23:18:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Make contribs link red if no contribs exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18887  (10herd)
[23:18:37] <Splarka>	ball in their court!
[23:22:33] <svip>	Splarka: Did anyone make a comment on my issue with uploading across a pool wikis?
[23:24:38] <Splarka>	didn't see any
[23:24:53] <Splarka>	http://toolserver.org/~amidaniel/chanlogs/%23mediawiki/20090523.txt
[23:26:33] <svip>	Eeh...
[23:26:38] <svip>	I did not post an IRC log!
[23:29:30] <Splarka>	see topic ^_^
[23:30:45] <AzaTht>	If uploading an bit-to-bit exact copy as previous image, does it create an new entry then?