[00:00:29] <TrevorParscal>	chuck: yeah - i need to do soome more cross browser testing on the preferences stuff
[00:01:10] <TrevorParscal>	however, the dropdown is not acting the way you experienced it on Safari 4 for me
[00:01:21] <chuck>	Really? That's odd.
[00:02:01] <TrevorParscal>	well - make sure caches are purged and such.. but - yeah - I want to emulate the behavior so I can fix it...
[00:02:31] <chuck>	What screen resolution are you using?
[00:03:55] <TrevorParscal>	chuck: I think it has something to do with some CSS in the mediawiki namespace...
[00:04:01] <TrevorParscal>	it's not doing it on my local machine
[00:04:19] <TrevorParscal>	(I test in 800x600 and 1024x768)
[00:04:40] <chuck>	I don't have any MediaWiki:Common.css stuff
[00:05:09] <Reedy>	I'm off
[00:05:13] <Reedy>	Keep up the good work :)
[00:05:26] <TrevorParscal>	cya
[00:06:13] <chuck>	I can't find the CSS that moves that CSS over to inside of the viewport, where is it?
[00:06:17] <chuck>	err
[00:06:26] <chuck>	replace that second "CSS" with "drop down menu" ;-)
[00:07:07] <TrevorParscal>	you are looking for CSS which moves the drop down into the viewport?
[00:07:22] <chuck>	Yeah.
[00:07:34] <chuck>	The web inspector doesn't show any for the "menu" div
[00:07:47] <chuck>	Oh, I think it's the ul
[00:07:48] <TrevorParscal>	http://prototype.wikimedia.org/en-wp/skins/vector/main.css
[00:08:15] <TrevorParscal>	look at the code below the definition for div#actions
[00:09:14] <TrevorParscal>	restarting computer for software update...
[00:10:05] <CIA-9>	03dale * r51096 10/branches/new-upload/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (9 files in 6 dirs): 
[00:10:05] <CIA-9>	* ported ~most of~ the player interface over to jQuery ui
[00:10:05] <CIA-9>	* added thememable player example
[00:16:02] <siebrand>	nice... http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Main_Page&useskin=vector
[00:16:45] <siebrand>	zzz...
[00:19:29] <chuck>	siebrand: Eep, looks a little broken on that wiki.
[00:20:20] <HeXiLeD>	!cache
[00:20:20] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "cache". You might try: !filecache !memcached !purge !refresh 
[00:20:26] <HeXiLeD>	!filecache
[00:20:26] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:File_cache
[00:20:39] <Splarka>	!botinfo | HeXiLeD
[00:20:39] --mwbot--	HeXiLeD: I don't know everything about everything. I am mostly for lazy experienced users to echo quick answers to very common mediawiki questions. Please don't randomly experiment with me for help. Everything I know is at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html and you can visit #mwbot or privately message me.
[00:21:21] <HeXiLeD>	funny
[00:21:36] <HeXiLeD>	!botinfo |  Splarka 
[00:21:36] --mwbot--	Splarka: I don't know everything about everything. I am mostly for lazy experienced users to echo quick answers to very common mediawiki questions. Please don't randomly experiment with me for help. Everything I know is at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html and you can visit #mwbot or privately message me.
[00:21:49] <Splarka>	it is not funny
[00:21:59] <HeXiLeD>	it was for me :)
[00:22:00] <Splarka>	stop spamming the chan with the bot trying to guess at help, please
[00:22:13] <HeXiLeD>	i am using it's help
[00:22:14] <Splarka>	or you will be turned into a french performance artist
[00:22:30] <Splarka>	go to #mwbot or /query mwbot2 to do that
[00:22:42] <Splarka>	its purpose here is to help others, not yourself
[00:22:47] <HeXiLeD>	if it works in PM even better :)
[00:23:34] <HeXiLeD>	well i can always  ask you .. and you can trigger it to help me ;) 
[00:23:46] <HeXiLeD>	PM works :) thanks 
[00:27:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Extension:Securepoll: message "Securepoll-too-few-edits" needs PLURAL support. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18516  (10rohde)
[00:34:14] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Icons missing at SPI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18966 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SecurePoll; (rohde)
[00:37:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) mvTextInterface.js error on loading CMML <mediaSource> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18960  (10GChriss)
[00:39:20] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Make SecurePoll aware of Single User Login - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18967 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SecurePoll; (rohde)
[00:41:38] <CIA-9>	03rainman * r51097 10/branches/lucene-search-2.1/ (5 files in 4 dirs): 
[00:41:38] <CIA-9>	Implement a UDP logger:
[00:41:38] <CIA-9>	* use a python script as a server that writes logs to file
[00:41:38] <CIA-9>	* have a thread that periodically pushes the search queries via udp to the log server
[00:45:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) mvTextInterface.js error on loading CMML <mediaSource> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18960  (10GChriss)
[00:47:15] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Notify user on repeat votes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18968 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SecurePoll; (rohde)
[01:11:14] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Vote receipt should provide human legible data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18969 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SecurePoll; (rohde)
[01:14:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable editors to declare ref body text outside of main article prose. Also Enable editors to control footnote ordering. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18890  (10bill.mitchell)
[01:26:37] <p858snake>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Commit_access_requests#Jidanni <...
[01:27:29] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Fatal error prevents small number of people from voting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18970 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SecurePoll; (rohde)
[01:32:31] <CIA-9>	03dale * r51098 10/branches/new-upload/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (8 files in 4 dirs): 
[01:32:31] <CIA-9>	* firefogg updates
[01:32:31] <CIA-9>	* stand-alone add media wizard update
[01:32:31] <CIA-9>	* sample themable player updates
[01:34:04] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) PHP Interpreter failing to convert page to HTML before sending to client - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18971 critical; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (colin.wyatt.warren)
[01:36:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) PHP Interpreter failing to convert page to HTML before sending to client - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18971  (10colin.wyatt.warren)
[01:37:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Vote receipt should provide human legible data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18969  (10tstarling)
[01:37:17] <CIA-9>	03shinjiman * r51099 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Literary Chinese
[01:38:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) mwdumper java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Invalid contributor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18328  (10kurzum)
[01:39:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) RevDelete/HideUser (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18840  (10jidanni)
[01:39:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) PageHistory.php deleterevision <form> breaks on ugly URL wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18827  (10jidanni)
[01:44:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) mwdumper java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Invalid contributor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18328  +comment (10kurzum)
[01:45:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) mwdumper java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Invalid contributor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18328  (10kurzum)
[01:48:08] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) PHP Interpreter failing to convert page to HTML before sending to client - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18971  +comment (10b-jorsch)
[01:50:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Vote receipt should provide human legible data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18969  (10rohde)
[01:54:53] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Large participation overwhelms the vote dump functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18972 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SecurePoll; (rohde)
[01:55:33] <Shinjiman>	hmmmmm trying for the new vector skin.....
[01:55:35] <Shinjiman>	[Thu May 28 09:51:01 2009] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] PHP Parse error:  parse error in C:\\Users\\Man\\Website\\mediawiki_svn\\skins\\Vector.php on line 726, referer: http://localhost:8080/~man/mediawiki_svn/index.php/Special:Preferences
[02:02:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Make Special:NewPages transcludable like Special:Wantedpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18941  +comment (10jidanni)
[02:02:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Transcluded Special:Newpages and Special:Newimages expose strip markers and desanitize html when returning zero results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16129  (10jidanni)
[02:04:12] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Decryption vs. passcode problem - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18973 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SecurePoll; (rohde)
[02:04:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) "New pages" expire too soon on small wikis, leaving minimal entries in Special:Newpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6341  +comment (10jidanni)
[02:18:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) "New pages" expire too soon on small wikis, leaving minimal entries in Special:Newpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6341  +comment (10mikelifeguard)
[02:23:21] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Time outs during decryption - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18974 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SecurePoll; (rohde)
[02:25:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Categories red links vs. $wgGroupPermissions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8812  (10jidanni)
[02:25:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) allow stopping needless editing of categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7897  +comment (10jidanni)
[02:27:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Nonexistent category pages show useless preview on first edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18879  +comment (10jidanni)
[02:27:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Large participation overwhelms the vote dump functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18972  (10rohde)
[02:28:46] <gurch>	yeah the new skin crashes my mediawiki too :|
[02:34:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Nonexistent category pages show useless preview on first edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18879  (10matthew.britton)
[02:36:59] <gurch>	k, something is screwed up
[02:37:45] <gurch>	now I've set my preferences to use that skin, I can't load any pages at all whilst logged in. even after I went back to an older version
[02:38:04] *gurch 	wonders what changes are actually in the new skin anyway
[02:40:19] <gurch>	oh. "inspired by research conducted by the Wikipedia Usability Initiative". that would be nothing useful then :|
[02:45:50] <chuck>	gurch: Email tparscal@wikimedia.org about it as he suggested.
[02:46:07] <chuck>	I'm guessing it's a Windows problem, as it works perfectly for me on linux-y systems.
[02:53:23] <Shinjiman>	I've put the error on CR.
[02:53:37] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Method to distribute the "jump text" from SPI to the various wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18976 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SecurePoll; (rohde)
[02:53:45] <Shinjiman>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/51094#code-comments
[02:53:50] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Method to more easily update the translations at SPI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18975 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SecurePoll; (rohde)
[02:54:37] <gurch>	Shinjiman: are you on windows?
[02:55:42] <Shinjiman>	gurch: Yes.
[02:56:26] <gurch>	ah.
[02:56:32] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Vote receipt should provide human legible data - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18969  +comment (10tstarling)
[02:56:35] *gurch 	wonders what makes windows unable to render skins
[02:58:02] <gurch>	oh I see what it is
[02:58:15] <gurch>	line 724 starts with <? rather than <?php
[03:02:06] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Local links in CentralNotice broken on secure.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18977 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralNotice; (rohde)
[03:08:11] <p858snake>	gurch: thats not windows then, thats your web servers config
[03:09:28] <gurch>	oh.
[03:09:31] <gurch>	k.
[03:09:57] <gurch>	should probably be changed though.
[03:11:39] <p858snake>	and people that have short tags enabled ftl
[03:12:11] <Shinjiman>	ok, I think I will commit the correction soon.
[03:17:04] <CIA-9>	03shinjiman * r51100 10/trunk/phase3/skins/Vector.php: fix parse error on r51094.
[03:34:09] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Option to temporarily enter decryption key online - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18978 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SecurePoll; (rohde)
[03:34:13] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Integration with FCK editor fails in IE (free text field) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15877  +comment (10yaron57)
[03:48:06] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Wikipediacentric wording in message "sf createtemplate aggregationdesc" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18558  +comment (10yaron57)
[03:48:51] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Incorrect escaping kills Javascript in Swedish localization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18853  +comment (10yaron57)
[03:52:27] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Can't vote error message should provide qualifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18979 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SecurePoll; (rohde)
[04:17:25] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Vote cookie duplicate flag should wait for vote submission - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18980 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SecurePoll; (rohde)
[04:24:01] <CIA-9>	03yaron * r51101 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormPrinter.inc: Added class_exists() check for LogEventsList before displaying with it
[04:26:41] <CIA-9>	03yaron * r51102 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormPrinter.inc: Fixed size of list input, added correct initialization of variable
[04:27:45] <CIA-9>	03yaron * r51103 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormPrinter.inc: Fixed typo
[04:34:52] <chuck>	Can pages generated with SemanticForms be edited with a form after they've been created with a form?
[04:41:38] <charitwo>	!hesaidsemantic | chuck
[04:41:38] --mwbot--	chuck: http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/576/hesaidsemanticga2.jpg
[05:00:56] <TimStarling>	just trying to work out Special:Revisiondelete
[05:01:24] <TimStarling>	there's two title parameters, one called target and one called page
[05:01:46] <TimStarling>	then target gets put into a variable called $this->page, and page gets put into a variable called $this->contextPage
[05:08:01] <TimStarling>	contextPage doesn't actually seem to do anything
[05:13:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable editors to declare ref body text outside of main article prose. Also Enable editors to control footnote ordering. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18890  (10bill.mitchell)
[05:22:51] <chuck>	charitwo: Do you know if the Wikia Forums use the DPLforum extension?
[05:25:00] <charitwo>	chuck: not directly, see http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Wiki-style_forums - it's based off that extension
[05:42:17] <chuck>	!parserfunctions
[05:42:17] --mwbot--	"Parser functions" are a way to extend the wiki syntax. ParserFunctions is an extension that provides the basic set of parser functions (you have to install it separately!).  For help using parser functions, please see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Parser_functions>. For details about the extension, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions>.
[06:46:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Integration with FCK editor fails in IE (free text field) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15877  (10piglesias)
[07:26:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) formatnum works wrong in german - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18957  (10dasch_87)
[07:33:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) formatnum works wrong in german - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18957  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[07:47:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) History page excessively cluttered, esp. with suppressrevision - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18674  (10JSchulz_4587)
[08:05:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) "Hide user" checkbox on Special:Block does not convey the gravity of that action - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18678  (10JSchulz_4587)
[08:07:51] <marineam15>	hi everybody, I added some links in a message file, and it appears like this : [[Special:Userlogin|Log in/create account]]. Is it possible to add links in messages files ? does it work usually ?
[08:10:47] <Splarka>	some messages allow raw html, some allow html entities, some allow wikicode, some allow some combiation of the three, some allow none
[08:11:16] <Splarka>	and some messages are used in more than one place with more than one of the above methods, inconsistently
[08:21:38] <CIA-9>	03aaron * r51104 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (18 files in 5 dirs): Minor S&R code cleanup
[08:28:43] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Make filling in the "reason" field for CheckUser checks compulsory - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18613  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[08:40:45] <marineam15>	Splarka: okay so if I want it works with html entities, I just have to call messages with this->html('mymsg') , right ?
[08:41:58] <Splarka>	html entities are like &amp; &lt; &gt; &quot; &nbsp; and the decimal &#32; and hex &#x20; codes
[08:42:26] <Splarka>	raw html is like <a><script><img> and those not allowed in wikicode
[08:42:49] <Splarka>	wikicode is '''wikimarkup''' [[like]] {{this}} and whitelisted html, like divs, spans, tables, and other innocent code
[08:43:38] <marineam15>	Splarka: yep, so to allow wikicode for example, how can I do ?
[08:43:54] <Splarka>	might help if you explain what you want to put where
[08:45:00] <marineam15>	well in my skin "Monobook" I added <?php $this->msg( 'findarticle' )?>
[08:45:58] <marineam15>	which contains a text with  [[Special:Userlogin|Log in/create account]]
[08:46:07] <Splarka>	so you're creating a new message and not using an exising one?
[08:46:15] <marineam15>	yes
[08:46:20] <marineam15>	a customized message
[08:48:00] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WfMsg()
[08:49:48] <Nikerabbit>	includes/SkinTemplate.php:      function msg( $str ) {
[08:49:48] <Nikerabbit>	includes/SkinTemplate.php-              echo htmlspecialchars( $this->translator->translate( $str ) );
[08:49:51] <Nikerabbit>	includes/SkinTemplate.php-      }
[08:49:52] <p858snake>	is there a link around telling people how to submit patches on bugzilla?
[08:51:04] <Splarka>	p858snake: specific to wm, or to bz in general?
[08:51:14] <p858snake>	wm
[08:51:32] <marineam15>	Splarka: thank you, I'll try with $wgOut->addWikiText( wfMsg( 'mycustommsg' ) );
[08:52:42] <Splarka>	hmm, don't see any
[08:52:56] <Splarka>	!subversion and !bugzilla hint at it
[08:54:09] <p858snake>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker#Posting_a_patch <i found that but was wondering if there was anythng more varbose
[08:54:25] <Splarka>	{{sofixit}}
[08:54:30] <Nikerabbit>	marineam15: use $wgOut->addWikiMsg( 'name' ); instead
[08:54:45] <p858snake>	Splarka: all i know is that they have to be in the diff format
[08:54:55] <Nikerabbit>	or if in the skin $this->msgWiki( 'mymsg' );
[08:55:59] <p858snake>	if i add a cc on a bugzilla report, do they need to a member?
[08:57:24] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Allow anonymous IP editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18981 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (p858snake)
[08:57:42] <flyingparchment>	that's the worst bug title ever
[08:57:58] <flyingparchment>	since, you know, we've allowed anonymous users to edit since 2001
[08:58:34] <Nikerabbit>	uh
[08:58:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable recent changes patrol on Bulgarian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18905  (10b.manolov)
[08:58:40] <Nikerabbit>	anonymous and ip don't mix
[08:58:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow anonymising of IP editors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18981  summary; +comment (10agarrett)
[08:59:26] <werdna>	flyingparchment: better? :)
[08:59:34] <flyingparchment>	yes
[08:59:41] <Nikerabbit>	uh
[08:59:56] <p858snake>	flyingparchment: i would be saying {{sofixit}} but werdna already has
[08:59:56] <Nikerabbit>	is 0.0.0.0 really a good choise for that?
[09:00:21] <p858snake>	theres discussion of encrypting it in the mailing list thread
[09:00:44] <Nikerabbit>	or just hash
[09:00:49] <Splarka>	why not 255.255.255.xxx like in the old days X_X
[09:00:58] <Nikerabbit>	that's broadcast
[09:01:58] <Splarka>	if you want to be anonymous, register! (counterintuitive much?)
[09:02:30] <flyingparchment>	you can't just encrypt it, you need something cleverer
[09:02:36] <flyingparchment>	i suggest doing it how unreal ircd does it
[09:02:56] <flyingparchment>	you get a fake "IP" that looks like this: 32FFF7DC.3A716EB8.7D3F1A12
[09:03:10] <flyingparchment>	if you ban that, it's the same as one IP; if you ban 32FFF7DC.3A716EB8.*, it's like banning the /24, etc
[09:03:18] <flyingparchment>	that way you hide the ip, but you don't lose the administrative flexibility
[09:04:22] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) SUL concurrent user creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18982 minor; Normal; MediaWiki: User login/settings; (koneko)
[09:10:49] <kitsched>	how do i get rid of the empty lines right of 'Level' (in the helicopter information box) here: http://www.rcheliwiki.com/E-Flite_Blade_CX2 - the template in question is here: http://www.rcheliwiki.com/Template:RC_helicopter - please edit the template directly, i tried all hints i received to no avail and i'm slowly going crazy here...
[09:14:21] <Nikerabbit>	kitsched: put the if on the sameline with not space in between?
[09:14:42] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) seek does not work in safari browser using Java engine - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18983 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: MetaVidWiki; (eran.kuziel)
[09:15:43] <kitsched>	Nikerabbit: please edit the template, if you fix it in one place i'll understand and fix the other places too
[09:16:13] <kitsched>	sorry but i don't want to fiddle around in the dark, i think i already tried everything
[09:16:29] <Nikerabbit>	I can try, but I don't promise it will work
[09:17:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) seek does not work in Safari and Firefox browsers using Java engine - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18983  summary; +comment (10eran.kuziel)
[09:18:59] <Nikerabbit>	I guess not
[09:19:07] <kitsched>	:(
[09:21:41] <sadless74>	Hello. I am install mediawiki for myself. Add extensions Cite and ParserFunctions. But i am don't understand how add a wiki markup panel which appear in the bottop of windows when i edit a page. Is this a extension? or it is a template
[09:21:55] <flyingparchment>	sadless74: CharInsert extension
[09:22:22] <sadless74>	thank you!
[09:47:58] <kitsched>	how do i get rid of the empty lines right of 'Level' and under 'Beginner' (in the helicopter information box) here: http://www.rcheliwiki.com/E-Flite_Blade_CX2 - the template in question is here: http://www.rcheliwiki.com/Template:RC_helicopter - and the blank lines are caused by the missing information for some of the lines below ( frame material / frame type / servo linkage / servo size ) - please edit the template directly, i tried all hints to no 
[09:48:22] <kitsched>	is there a mailing list / forum where i can post this question?
[09:49:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SUL concurrent user creation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18982  +comment (10happy-melon)
[10:01:07] <CIA-9>	03werdna * r51105 10/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Prevent Tor users from emailing other users
[10:02:22] <werdna>	TimStarling: I want to deploy that revision (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/51105). If you have a moment, could you look it over?
[10:02:35] <werdna>	I've had reports that people are abusing that loophole to spam all kinds of fun harassment
[10:04:46] <TimStarling>	ok
[10:04:52] <werdna>	It's got duplicated code and such, but it'll at least plug the gap
[10:06:27] <TimStarling>	can I just update the whole TorBlock extension?
[10:06:41] <werdna>	um, let me check
[10:06:55] <werdna>	you need to update SpecialEmailUser, because I added a new hook
[10:07:07] <TimStarling>	I just did that
[10:07:12] <werdna>	okay
[10:07:21] <TimStarling>	I'm thinking now about whether I need to patch TorBlock or update it
[10:07:32] <werdna>	update it
[10:07:42] <werdna>	last rev to torblock was 48042
[10:07:45] <werdna>	http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACode%2FMediaWiki%2Fauthor%2Fwerdna&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fextensions%2FTorBlock
[10:08:16] <werdna>	erm, I mean http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACode%2FMediaWiki&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fextensions%2FTorBlock
[10:10:32] <TimStarling>	speaking of duplicated code, I've just been refactoring Aaron's latest monster, Special:RevisionDelete
[10:10:40] <TimStarling>	I've got the file locked in svn
[10:11:23] <werdna>	That code is a patchwork of literally years of on/off development
[10:11:28] <werdna>	so I guess it's not that surprising
[10:13:35] <TimStarling>	there's 5 different things you can hide with it
[10:14:24] <TimStarling>	so every operation is implemented by copying hundreds of lines of code 3 times, and then implementing the other two cases with huge if() blocks
[10:14:38] <werdna>	sounds fun
[10:15:32] <TimStarling>	I split it up into a hierarchy of 10 classes, 2 for each target type
[10:15:53] <Nikerabbit>	:o
[10:16:00] <TimStarling>	it's not too hard to get rid of all the duplication, using inheritance
[10:16:49] <werdna>	yeah, inheritance is awesome for that.
[10:17:00] <TimStarling>	so far it's down from 52KB to 47KB, and there's still half the file to port over
[10:18:01] <Nikerabbit>	how much is that in lines?
[10:18:27] <TimStarling>	it's not so impressive in lines, because the new classes have lots of little functions
[10:18:40] <TimStarling>	1566 -> 1507 physical
[10:19:18] <Nikerabbit>	I try to keep my files under 500 lines
[10:19:58] <TimStarling>	dinner, bbl
[10:20:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow anonymising of IP editors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18981  (10hanno)
[10:25:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow anonymising of IP editors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18981  (10agarrett)
[10:25:31] <Brownout>	about the ml thread regarding bug 18981: hash functions are meant to be non invertible, so knowing or not the salt won't make a great difference
[10:26:14] <Nikerabbit>	Brownout: knowning what?
[10:26:25] <Brownout>	the salt
[10:26:31] <Nikerabbit>	it does
[10:26:45] <Brownout>	how?
[10:27:00] <Nikerabbit>	it takes like few seconds to hash every ip and then just use that mapping backwards
[10:27:55] <Brownout>	I wouldn't be so sure about that figure
[10:28:30] <Nikerabbit>	Brownout: why not?
[10:28:45] <Nikerabbit>	hashing 600M file does not take over few minutes
[10:31:21] <Beany>	Hello.
[10:31:23] <Nikerabbit>	hi
[10:31:35] <Beany>	I got a question about Editnotices.
[10:31:47] <Brownout>	maybe I'm just sleep deprived, but there's something missing
[10:31:55] <Beany>	Why they don't work for Userpages and do work for User Talk pages.
[10:32:23] <Nikerabbit>	Beany: work? are you sure they are just not cached pages?
[10:32:41] <Nikerabbit>	oh, editing
[10:32:42] <Beany>	http://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gebruiker:Beany/Editnotice
[10:32:51] <Beany>	That one does not work
[10:33:05] <Beany>	http://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Overleg_gebruiker:Beany/Editnotice
[10:33:25] <Beany>	That one doesO work
[10:34:23] <Nikerabbit>	uh
[10:34:31] <Nikerabbit>	aren't editnotices stored in the mediawiki namespace
[10:35:13] <Beany>	Try to edit my Talk Page and see how it ends up :)
[10:35:22] <Nikerabbit>	I don't see editnotice in either
[10:35:50] <Beany>	Strange because I see one at my talkpage when I edit it.
[10:36:00] <Nikerabbit>	oh, here: http://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Overleg_gebruiker:Beany&action=edit
[10:36:05] <Beany>	Yes :)
[10:36:26] <Beany>	And I would like one for my Userpage aswell, but that one doesn't work.
[10:36:34] <Brownout>	http://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Editnotice-3&action=edit
[10:37:03] <Nikerabbit>	Brownout: BAH, i was just going to paste that
[10:37:24] <Beany>	because (so says people on the dutch wiki channel)  it's only for the talk pages
[10:37:33] <Beany>	But i'm going to have luch now
[10:37:41] <Beany>	I'll get back to you guys
[10:38:56] <QuestPC>	Hi! Why $wgUploadPath = false by default, and will be "mapped" to ${wgScriptPath}/images ? My $wgScriptPath is empty and when I am trying to build full path to uploaded file, it gives me a path without drive letter name (/www/mywiki instead e:/www/mywiki), so file_exists() in windows fails..
[10:39:46] <Nikerabbit>	where are you trying to build it?
[10:39:46] <QuestPC>	How should I set $wgUploadPath so it will with both in *nix and windows...
[10:40:00] <QuestPC>	a little extension
[10:40:20] <QuestPC>	which uses PHP's file_exists function
[10:40:32] <QuestPC>	and the function wants a drive letter.
[10:40:58] <Nikerabbit>	QuestPC: you are confusing wgUploadDirectory and wgUploadPath
[10:41:20] <QuestPC>	ah, sorry. I will look for that variable.
[10:41:36] <QuestPC>	ok, I see. vhost vs local fs.
[10:42:22] <QuestPC>	these should have been named *vhost and *localfs probably..
[10:42:42] <QuestPC>	anyway, ok.
[10:54:51] <Duesentrieb>	QuestPC: the naming is consistent: "dir" is always FS while "path" is always web path.
[10:55:20] <CIA-9>	03nikerabbit * r51106 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/TranslatePage.php: Remove cruft, few escaping fixes
[10:56:38] <CIA-9>	03nikerabbit * r51107 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/scripts/ (messageDust.php populateFuzzy.php): Fix some mistyped variables
[10:56:38] <kitsched>	http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11006 - anyone?
[11:04:37] <QuestPC>	Duesentrieb: I know. it's just the second time I confuse them. no problem.
[11:25:01] <flyingparchment>	'upload vhost' would be a terrible name
[11:25:09] <flyingparchment>	since it doesn't contain a vhost, it contains a path
[11:29:38] <saper>	$wgWohinAuchImmerDieDateinGehen
[11:32:53] <werdna>	o-o-o-
[11:33:16] <werdna>	Duesentrieb: poke, still need to make sure I'm good to stay somewhere in berlin before I book it :)
[11:35:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Paginate Special:AllMessages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16497  (10happy-melon)
[11:44:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable editors to declare ref body text outside of main article prose. Also Enable editors to control footnote ordering. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18890  (10bill.mitchell)
[11:50:07] <Duesentrieb>	werdna: i was waiting for you to confirm that you have beeked before asking around :) if you are ok with a couch somewhere, it should be no problem at all to find you something.
[11:51:37] <kitsched>	my issue is still unanswered :( - http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11006
[11:51:46] <DotAWiki|Gara>	Hi everyone, is there a simple way in mediawiki to protect userpages so only the user the page belongs to can edit it?
[11:52:00] <DotAWiki|Gara>	(and sysops)
[11:52:14] <flyingparchment>	DotAWiki|Gara: no, but that sounds like something someone might have written an extension for
[11:52:20] <flyingparchment>	(would probably only be about 5 lines of code)
[11:53:01] <underguiz>	hello, i'm trying to build a secure mediawiki enviroment and one of the things i'd like to have is manual account creating done by the admnistrator, is that possible?
[11:53:39] <DotAWiki|Gara>	Ok thanks, I'll take a look in the matrix
[11:54:03] <Duesentrieb>	it exists... the matrix is out of date, but that thing should still be on there
[11:55:12] <werdna>	Duesentrieb: hehe, so we have a mutex deadlock ;)
[11:55:17] <Duesentrieb>	DotAWiki|Gara: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:KeepYourHandsToYourself
[11:55:28] <werdna>	well, something of that nature :)
[11:55:32] <DotAWiki|Gara>	:D nice name 
[11:55:34] <DotAWiki|Gara>	thanks
[11:55:39] <Duesentrieb>	werdna: indeed :) well, i was going to ask henriette, but she's on vacation until tuesday. will try to catch her online.
[11:55:58] <werdna>	okie
[11:56:07] <Duesentrieb>	i'll also ask a friend of mine if you can stay in her flat while she isn't there.
[11:56:20] <werdna>	so to be sure, there's no problem with getting me somewhere to sleep for friday-tuesday :)
[11:57:00] <Duesentrieb>	no, we'll find something. i can offer you a place to sleep miself, but not in berlin :)
[11:57:12] <werdna>	hehe
[11:57:33] <werdna>	that's probably not too helpful
[11:57:56] <werdna>	having somebody there would probably be ideal, so I have somebody to pester at least :)
[11:58:39] <Duesentrieb>	well, i'll come to berlin on thursday and leave on sunday around noon.
[11:58:47] <werdna>	ok
[11:59:01] <Duesentrieb>	you can probably stay in the place i stay, at least while i'm there. will check more options.
[11:59:03] <werdna>	I think the flights I'm looking at are arriving friday night, leaving monday mid-afternoon
[11:59:16] <werdna>	100 pounds with easyjet, 150 with ryanair
[12:00:08] <Duesentrieb>	will you arrive early enough to do something oin friday still?
[12:02:17] <werdna>	I think my options are 7am or 7pm
[12:03:09] <werdna>	I'd arrive either 10am or 11pm
[12:03:25] <werdna>	oh here's an option
[12:03:31] <werdna>	arriving 4pm
[12:03:36] <werdna>	cheaper too
[12:04:38] <werdna>	hmm, departing 7:25am from Schoenefield would be a pain, right?
[12:05:51] <Duesentrieb>	possible, but painful, yea
[12:07:22] <CIA-9>	03nikerabbit * r51108 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/SpecialTranslationChanges.php: Escaping fixes
[12:08:29] <werdna>	hmm, 20 pounds cheaper to come back tuesday than monday
[12:08:36] <werdna>	not sure if I want so much time off work though
[12:17:19] <CIA-9>	03werdna * r51109 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (Lqt.i18n.php classes/LqtView.php): (bug 18953) Fix fatal error when new LiquidThreads thread subject is invalid as a page title
[12:17:27] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Fatal error when new LiquidThreads thread subject is invalid as a page title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18953  +comment (10agarrett)
[12:23:21] <Beany>	Hello I'm back
[12:23:34] <Nikerabbit>	oh peanuts
[12:24:04] <Beany>	Why are Editnotices not used on User Pages, but only on user talk pages??
[12:24:33] <Nikerabbit>	Beany: ask nlwikipedia administrators
[12:25:10] <Beany>	Is there a special channel for nl.wiki admins? or is it just #wikipedia-nl?
[12:25:31] <Nikerabbit>	I don't know I just code here
[12:26:11] <Beany>	Well someone send me here. But were could I suggest for editnotices to work on Userpages??
[12:26:35] <Beany>	perhaps on bugzilla.wikimedia.org?
[12:28:36] <Nikerabbit>	Beany: no, talk to nlwikipedia administrators
[12:28:45] <Nikerabbit>	it's their configuration
[12:28:56] <Nikerabbit>	tell them that we send you back
[12:32:56] <CIA-9>	03werdna * r51110 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
[12:32:56] <CIA-9>	Fix bug 18947 LiquidThreads thread renaming silently fails if user is not allowed to move pages.
[12:32:56] <CIA-9>	It now fails gracefully, but really I'd like to be able to disable that subject bar altogether instead of letting users change it only to be told off.
[12:36:04] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Editnotice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18984 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (kenny.janssen)
[12:36:42] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Variants don't translate alt and title text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8873  +comment (10shinjiman)
[12:39:42] <Nikerabbit>	Beany: so you did not listen to me?
[12:40:10] <CIA-9>	03werdna * r51111 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/LqtView.php: Fix bug 18947 "LiquidThreads thread renaming silently fails if user is not allowed to move pages" properly: disable the subject field if the user hasn't permission to change it.
[12:40:26] <Beany>	Sorry I did not read your last lines.
[12:40:39] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) LiquidThreads thread renaming silently fails if user is not allowed to move pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18947  +comment (10agarrett)
[12:41:12] <Beany>	I will ask them :)
[12:53:47] <CIA-9>	03shinjiman * r51112 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: (bug 8873) follow up r46434, update the RELEASE-NOTES
[12:54:59] <CIA-9>	03shinjiman * r51113 10/branches/REL1_15/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: 
[12:54:59] <CIA-9>	backporting r51112
[12:54:59] <CIA-9>	(bug 8873) follow up r46434, update the RELEASE-NOTES
[12:59:01] <CIA-9>	03j * r51114 10/branches/new-upload/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
[12:59:01] <CIA-9>	* add setCurrentTime to playlist and native embed elements
[12:59:01] <CIA-9>	* add seeking example using setCurrentTime to seek to a given time
[13:02:27] <Tiffon>	hola
[13:02:28] <CIA-9>	03j * r51115 10/branches/new-upload/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/libEmbedVideo/mv_nativeEmbed.js: remove load event
[13:10:06] <Tiffon>	is possible mediawiki autologin ldap; login domain and that automatic does an autologin ldap? url extension?
[13:18:45] <wikibugs>	03(RESOLVED) Change BugZilla image on bugzilla.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9771  +comment (10shinjiman)
[13:18:48] <wikibugs>	03(mod) The Bugzilla main page uses an image which has been superseded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13346  +comment (10shinjiman)
[13:25:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Closing of Zhuang Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10691  +comment (10shinjiman)
[13:29:07] <Broatcast>	hello, exist a tutorial how to write an mediawiki design?
[13:32:58] <wmat>	Broatcast: here's a basic one http://www.siteground.com/tutorials/mediawiki/mediawiki_skins.htm
[13:34:04] <wmat>	Broatcast: also, there's this book: http://www.amazon.com/MediaWiki-Skins-Design-Designing-attractive/dp/1847195202
[13:35:22] <wmat>	Broatcast: PDF of that book can be bought here: http://www.packtpub.com/mediawiki-skins-design/book
[13:35:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Upgrade to the latest version of GeSHi (1.0.8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10967  (10shinjiman)
[13:38:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Upgrade to the latest version of GeSHi (1.0.8) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10967  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[13:40:44] <Ruffy>	hi
[13:41:06] <Ruffy>	i have a question / Ich hab mal ne frage
[13:41:39] <Ruffy>	kann mir jemand sagen ob es m�glich ist dass man Artikel erst von einem Admin freigeben lassen muss?
[13:42:38] <Ruffy>	is it possible to publish an writen article AFTER a admin check?
[13:42:48] <LauraHale>	Maybe
[13:42:55] <LauraHale>	German Wikipedia does it.
[13:43:07] <Ruffy>	hmmm and how can i do this?
[13:43:07] <LauraHale>	I believe there is an extension some where that does that.
[13:43:23] <LauraHale>	Look for the extensions that are in on on WM projects
[13:43:28] <Duesentrieb>	that is not quite what happens on the german wikipedia
[13:43:35] <LauraHale>	Ah.
[13:43:37] <Duesentrieb>	!flaggedrevs
[13:43:37] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs
[13:43:37] <Ruffy>	do u know where to get this?
[13:44:34] <Ruffy>	cool for first look it seems to be what im looking for...
[13:44:40] <Ruffy>	ill give it a try thx
[13:45:04] <Duesentrieb>	Ruffy: generally: mediawiki is a wiki. it's not a cms. if you want a cms, install one...
[13:45:05] <Duesentrieb>	!cms
[13:45:05] --mwbot--	Wikis are designed for openness, to be readable and editable by all. If you want a forum, a blog, a web authoring toolkit or corporate content management system, perhaps don't use wiki software. There is a nice overview of free tools available at <http://www.opensourcecms.com/> including the possibility to try each system. For ways to restrict access in MediaWiki, see !access.
[13:46:20] <LauraHale>	Wikis can be hard at first.  Need to learn to give up control.
[13:46:41] <LauraHale>	In most cases, patrolling recent changes works well enough to prevent any real vandalism and problems.
[13:47:13] <Ruffy>	dont want a cms only atm i think its better to check the articles of our contributers
[13:47:36] <Duesentrieb>	Ruffy: if you think that, then you don't want a wiki, really...
[13:50:06] <LauraHale>	Why doesn't patrolling recent changes work?
[13:50:39] <LauraHale>	The wiki I run has a high risk of vandalism.
[13:50:54] <LauraHale>	Three good admins means that problem edits aren't visible for that long.
[13:51:52] <Ruffy>	no i think i want a wiki
[13:52:43] <Ruffy>	but when working with 10 Peoples on the same projekt dokumentation its just to... dont know controll that they dont write sh...
[13:53:00] <LauraHale>	If you want a wiki, then why can't you just patrol it?
[13:53:11] <LauraHale>	wikis tend to have the philosophy of assume good faith.
[13:53:45] <LauraHale>	If they write shit, then you roll back their contributions, explain to them what is going on and teach them so they don't make that mistake again.
[13:53:58] <LauraHale>	Or you edit their changes to bring them into compliance with formatting, etc.
[13:54:20] <LauraHale>	If they can't do that on a wiki, then you probably don't want them on your project to begin with.
[13:55:12] <Ruffy>	jeah thats right... i only thought it would be easier when make those steps for Puplic release ^^
[13:57:02] <LauraHale>	It is a wiki. :)
[13:57:14] <LauraHale>	I would tend to assume that your audience would understand some of the short comings...
[13:57:28] <LauraHale>	Especially if it is an open source related project.
[14:00:23] <Ruffy>	mkay i think you are right ^^
[14:01:23] <CIA-9>	03werdna * r51116 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/LqtView.php: Fix r51111, some bugs when creating a thread
[14:01:26] <LauraHale>	:D
[14:01:48] <LauraHale>	Sometimes, the urge to protect is understandable but giving up some can lead to great things.
[14:02:08] *LauraHale 	has learned this the hard way.
[14:02:46] <Ruffy>	:D
[14:02:50] <CIA-9>	03werdna * r51117 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (classes/LqtNewMessages.php pages/SpecialNewMessages.php): Fix Special:NewMessages, transition to different storage type was confusing the system.
[14:02:57] <Ruffy>	kk thanx anyway ;)
[14:03:02] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) You have new messages message wont go away - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18951  +comment (10agarrett)
[14:03:17] <werdna>	LauraHale: I don't mean to be rude, but who are you? I've seen you around a bit too much for you to be some random user, but I've never actually heard of you outside this channel :)
[14:04:29] <LauraHale>	I run http://www.fanhistory.com 
[14:04:36] <LauraHale>	The front end of it at any rate. :)
[14:04:42] <LauraHale>	emufarmers handles the back end. :)
[14:04:57] <LauraHale>	I've been to two RecentChangesCamp.  
[14:05:22] <LauraHale>	Er.  I help edit on wikiHow, hang out on #aboutus. 
[14:05:46] <werdna>	Nothing I'd know anything about, except that I know another few ladies who work on wikihow
[14:05:54] <LauraHale>	:) Probably not. 
[14:06:08] <LauraHale>	even on wikiHow I'm pretty quiet.  I'm there mostly for community support issues.
[14:08:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add signature-like (wikipedia-esque) options to LQ, allowing styling and name changing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18952  (10agarrett)
[14:08:57] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) Confusing log entries when moving threads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17519  (10agarrett)
[14:16:41] <GerardM->	LauraHale, your wikis are English only ??
[14:17:28] <LauraHale>	We had non-English version but no admins for them.
[14:17:38] <LauraHale>	There is some non-English content on the FanHistory.Com.
[14:17:48] <LauraHale>	It just is random and you have to search for it.
[14:18:07] <LauraHale>	I know we probably have 10 or 15 articles in Russian. :/  Maybe 5 in Italian and Czech.
[14:18:38] <LauraHale>	I've been begging emufarmers to see if he can move what we had on es.fanhistory.com to a name space of es:
[14:24:23] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) Change favicon for Wiktionaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16315  +comment (10rhalsell)
[14:24:56] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Creation of namespace 'Portal' at bar.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16290  (10rhalsell)
[14:26:33] <GerardM->	Ok so you do not have a wiki in other languages really
[14:30:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Change favicon for Wiktionaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16315  (10conrad.irwin)
[14:30:20] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Change logo for Bulgarian Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18897  +comment (10rhalsell)
[14:30:44] <LauraHale>	Not really, no. :/
[14:38:12] <CIA-9>	03nojhan * r51118 10/trunk/tools/planet/fr/config.ini: WikiActu fix
[14:46:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs Patrolling Configuration on ia.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16485  (10rhalsell)
[14:50:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Implement user permissions for saving books to the wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18902  +comment (10lastword)
[14:54:02] <LaireTM>	Hello, coud it be that MediaWiki needs a lot of Sever Power?
[14:54:32] <Nikerabbit>	it could be
[14:54:36] <Nikerabbit>	do you have a problem?
[14:57:16] <LaireTM>	My Webhoster shout down my Webserver after the side with mediawiki produce an overload
[14:58:04] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Enable FlaggedRevs Patrolling Configuration on ia.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16485  +comment (10rhalsell)
[15:02:30] <Duesentrieb>	LaireTM: if you have a non-trivbial number of editors, you should activate the miser mode.
[15:02:33] <Duesentrieb>	!misermode
[15:02:33] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "misermode".
[15:02:36] <Duesentrieb>	huh.
[15:02:41] <Duesentrieb>	!wg MiserMode
[15:02:41] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgMiserMode
[15:03:11] <Duesentrieb>	LaireTM: other than that: mediawiki is a heavy duty tool. it scales well, but it has a pretty high baseline.
[15:03:40] <LaireTM>	Hallo Duesentrieb ;-)
[15:03:55] <Duesentrieb>	hi
[15:04:31] <CIA-9>	03j * r51119 10/branches/new-upload/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/libSequencer/mvPlayList.js: fuction should actually be called
[15:05:13] <LaireTM>	Ich gehe von can 500 bis 1000 Zugriffen innerhalb einer Minute aus (war ne Werbung in einem Browsergame) daraufhin hat es den Webserver in die Knie gezwungen
[15:05:40] <LaireTM>	Könnte jetzt auf meinen Rootserver umziehen, aber habe angst das er dann auch die gretshce macht
[15:11:31] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Activation of subpages feature on frwiki ns=15 (Category_talk) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18835  +comment (10rhalsell)
[15:27:04] <hashar>	hello
[15:31:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable variant aliases for zh.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8532  (10shinjiman)
[15:32:50] <CIA-9>	03dale * r51120 10/branches/new-upload/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (4 files in 4 dirs): fixed script-loader playlist example
[15:35:00] <LauraHale>	Hello hashar.
[15:52:08] <marineam15>	hi, is it possible to insert something like $wgOut->addWikiText( wfMsg( 'flubbersuccess' ) ); in Monobook.php ? I did it, but it breaks everything
[15:52:59] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Editnotice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18984  +comment (10happy-melon)
[15:56:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Activation of subpages feature on frwiki ns=15 (Category_talk) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18835  +comment (10happy-melon)
[16:01:41] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Please set $wgBlockAllowsUTEdit as true on Portuguese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18985 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (lugusto)
[16:01:54] <Duesentrieb>	marineam15: when you are in the skin, you are past the lifetime of the output object. in the skin code, just write directly to putput.
[16:02:04] <Duesentrieb>	i.e. use print("...")
[16:02:24] <CIA-9>	03dale * r51121 10/branches/new-upload/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fixed playlist clip representation in playhead
[16:08:07] <marineam15>	Duesentrieb: actually at first I used $this->msg('mymsg') and it works
[16:08:14] <marineam15>	but when the message contains a link
[16:08:40] <marineam15>	it displays [[Special:Bla|blabal]] instead of a link
[16:08:58] <Duesentrieb>	yea, that's raw output. don't know if you can make it parse wikitext
[16:09:20] <Duesentrieb>	maybe there's a flag for that or something
[16:09:27] <Duesentrieb>	havn't looked at the skin code for a while