[04:31:45] !mwbot [04:31:45] --mwbot-- Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. Some quick help is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mwbot, you can find all my source code at http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn [04:31:49] Whee [04:36:25] !worstcase [04:36:25] --mwbot-- Generally, the worst that can happen is that someone compromises your site, steals your data, deletes it and replaces it with kiddy porn. Then they start a spam service on your server advertizing the kiddy porn to twenty million email addresses, daily. Then your home gets raided, you get fired and your wife leaves you. [04:36:32] I missed that one [04:39:40] 03tstarling * r51580 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/archives/ (2 files): Fix typo in filename [04:40:37] O.O [04:40:41] Marybelle: i thought that got renamed to uploads [04:40:51] @dump [04:40:51] --mwbot-- A dump is now available at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html [04:40:52] !morbo | Prodego [04:40:52] --mwbot-- Prodego: http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/330/morbomediawikiaf9.jpg [04:40:54] I don't think so. [04:41:13] amidaniel: toolserver.org :P [04:41:32] Oh, durr [04:41:32] lol [04:44:06] !test [04:44:06] --mwbot-- This is a nifty test of niftiness ... http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:`e11` << lookie, isn't that cool? :) [04:44:17] !test something [04:44:17] --mwbot-- This is a nifty test of niftiness ... http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:something << lookie, isn't that cool? :) [04:44:21] Oooh [04:44:31] I did get fancy with that bot didn't I? Lol [04:44:45] I don't even remember adding substitution, let alone recursive substitution :) [05:05:52] I need some banner ads [05:05:59] how do I implement that? +adsense [05:13:02] amidaniel: I think there are some open bugs remaining. ;-) [05:13:06] *Splarka prods amidaniel [05:13:59] ami: also, pop MZM's grep tool into that folder sometime ^_^ [05:14:19] He should write a proper search tool. [05:14:47] nah, that'd take work [05:15:24] The source code should probably be committed to WMF's SVN, though. [05:16:34] would be nice to grep all the folders recursively [05:16:55] "who the hell deleted my favorite alias!" [05:17:08] also amidaniel: can you log /topic changes? heh [05:23:29] Gahh [05:23:41] I step out for five minutes and return to an IRC assault! [05:24:54] IRsault [05:25:08] clever [05:25:32] I remember there being odd privacy issues about logging topics and joins / parts [05:25:41] It's just a line of code to add them in though [05:25:54] And search ain't all that complicated to do properly [05:27:22] Says who? [05:27:24] Parts and joins are privacy icky. Topic changes aren't. [05:27:44] I dunno ... I remember someone raising a fuss for some odd reason [05:27:57] It didn't make sense to me, but I didn't wanna upset anyone [05:28:09] Fuck 'em? :-) [05:28:14] It was controversial enough just to log what's said, even with search indexing, etc. disabled [05:29:24] the fuss was over renicks [05:29:26] not topics [05:29:40] Oh? [05:29:43] Could be [05:29:59] If only we had logs. [05:30:01] Ugh ... I don't have the code on here. I'll have to check it out [05:30:07] > # Nickname changes, joins and leaves don't appear in the channel log --Catrope 13:59, 10 January 2008 (UTC) [05:30:07] Intentionally not included in logs for privacy reasons. AmiDaniel 05:47, 12 January 2008 (UTC) [05:30:20] Ah [05:30:23] Thar ya go [05:30:29] topics should be fine [05:30:36] *Splarka grins [05:30:59] Why are joins, parts, and nickname changes privacy issues while we're at it? [05:31:47] Is there any benefit to logging them except for occasional "welcome back" context? [05:32:04] Not really. Provide some context though [05:32:24] When all joe is talking to sally, and then joe is suddenly talking to sue, without any indication that sue is sally [05:32:41] s/all// [05:32:58] I think it's pretty rare people change like that during conversations. At least from what I've seen. /me shrugs. [05:33:14] Yeah, probably not. [05:33:48] Joins, parts, and nicks are definitely the bulk of the traffic in this channel at any rate, so omitting probably saves about 50% of the space at least :) [05:34:12] Btw, all the code for MWBot is up on SVN. If anyone would like to modify the bot themselves, be my guest :) [05:34:18] My svn, that is, not mediawiki's [05:34:19] agreeable [05:34:51] any way to smart-log renicks? like log a nick change if the person spoke in the last 15 minutes? [05:35:08] well, my log is on my svn, good luck getting to it [05:35:22] Hrm ... theoretically [05:35:28] That's effort though ;) [06:11:42] 03tstarling * r51581 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/archives/patch-log_user_text.sql: Renamed indexes, new indexes must be prefixed to avoid conflicts in SQLite's global index namespace. These indexes are not in tables.sql or any USE INDEX yet. [06:16:05] 03tstarling * r51582 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/archives/patch-log_user_text.sql: Fixed SQL error, inconsistency in field names between ALTER TABLE and CREATE INDEX. I'll go for log_page rather than log_page_id because it fits in better with similar existing field names. [06:21:59] dumb question: how do I edit the navigation bar on the left and the tool box? I need different sections [06:24:25] !sidebar [06:24:25] --mwbot-- To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . [06:24:40] you can't edit the toolbox, really [06:24:52] but you can create more sections [06:26:00] I dont want my readers to see the special pages [06:26:07] I may need to hax0r the php [06:26:29] hide them with css maybe [06:29:16] !e lockdown [06:29:16] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:lockdown [06:29:18] can do it [06:29:47] p858snake: making them inaccessable is not quite the same as hiding them from the toolbox [06:30:17] 03(NEW) inaccurate message for move-protected pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19122 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Page protection; (dannychia) [06:37:08] 03(mod) localize word "references" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19115 +comment (10mahitgar) [06:43:41] !banner ad [06:43:41] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "banner". [06:43:51] !adsense [06:43:51] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GoogleAdSense [06:43:54] ooo [06:45:30] Eww [06:46:38] well id rather have a banner than adsense [06:47:04] Good luck making a penny with either [06:50:53] thanks [06:51:03] ill owe you guys some when I get rich [06:56:49] !matrix | freenoder [06:56:49] --mwbot-- freenoder: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix [06:56:58] see if something on there [06:57:08] (although that is slightly out of date afaik) [06:58:34] ah cool [07:06:12] 03(mod) WMF servers missing part of cl_timestamp index, live hack breaks list=categorymembers&cmsort=sortkey - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17558 (10tstarling) [07:07:16] 03(mod) WMF servers missing part of cl_timestamp index, live hack breaks list=categorymembers&cmsort=sortkey - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17558 (10roan.kattouw) [07:11:46] 03catrope * r51583 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (archives/patch-rd_interwiki.sql tables.sql updaters.inc): SCHEMA CHANGE: adding rd_interwiki patch from bug 14418. Actual use of this schema change will follow later [07:21:17] Hellow! _) Can someone help me in question of add page outside of wiki code? trouble in page_touched row ... [07:23:54] ah, I found a way to do banners. theres a site notice page [07:29:36] 04(REOPENED) javascript error while playing clip in IE6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19038 (10eran.kuziel) [07:33:22] !image upload [07:33:22] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "image". You might try: !colon !externalimages !hesaidsemantic !imageauth !imagelink !imagemagic !imagemap !images !morbo !safemode !thumb !upload !uploads [07:33:30] !uploads [07:33:30] --mwbot-- File uploads are an often-used feature of MediaWiki, but are disabled by default in all current release versions. To enable them, first make the upload directory (default images) writable by PHP, then set $wgEnableUploads to true in LocalSettings.php (i.e. "$wgEnableUploads = true;"). See for more info. [07:33:58] I love you guys [07:35:47] *amidaniel points freenoder to @search [07:36:04] @search uploads [07:36:04] --mwbot-- Results: [filesize, images, upload, uploads] [07:38:14] wow, lots of work to enable uploads [07:38:47] no, generally, you just set $wgEnableUploads = true; [07:40:57] 03(CLOSED) no player is loaded in IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19018 (10eran.kuziel) [07:41:19] 03(CLOSED) in IE6 each click on the download button add new link to download on top of player - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19037 (10eran.kuziel) [07:44:22] 03(CLOSED) Clip does not play in IE6 with Java engine - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19036 (10eran.kuziel) [07:45:13] folks.. i would like to make it so that for certain namespaces users must be logged in to view the content, while others can be freely viewable/editable [07:45:15] is this possible? [07:45:25] 03(CLOSED) in IE6 progress bar location is wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19033 (10eran.kuziel) [07:48:59] 03(CLOSED) Embed code not working in IE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19027 (10eran.kuziel) [07:58:49] how do I get the button to upload images in the edit page? [07:59:03] theyre enabled, but I dont see an interface to upload em [07:59:13] Visit Special:Upload ? [08:03:16] thanks [08:07:14] 03(CLOSED) double control bars on the player - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18893 (10eran.kuziel) [08:08:56] 03(NEW) using Java engine - scrubber does not move in progress bar when clip is playing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19123 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: MetaVidWiki; (eran.kuziel) [08:24:48] siebrand: btw, re: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332#c19, what do you mean? I think it is not a browser-dependent problem at all... [08:33:04] 03(NEW) clip does not play with native engine and with Java engine - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19124 critical; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: MetaVidWiki; (eran.kuziel) [08:38:48] saper: that was added because someone once thought the issue blocked bug 640. [08:39:16] saper: if it was not relevant, just note that, and best also remove the dependency and web browser classification. [08:42:31] hmm, I need to put a banner in my sidebar. wont display. what gives? [08:50:00] hi people.......... hate to ask this - I asked last week, but can't find the page I was referred to atm :/ [08:50:05] anyway: [08:50:29] I'm looking the page on site which deals with exporting and importing the help pages [08:50:38] anyone have a clue? [08:52:45] !copyhelp [08:52:45] --mwbot-- See for instructions on copying the help pages to your wiki. [08:53:00] Duesentrieb: thanks again! [08:53:06] :P [08:53:46] nm, found page on sidebar wiki [08:53:49] seems to be more of a hack [08:55:24] Hello, is someone here enthousiastic enough to convince me why to use MediaWiki instead of TWiki? :) [08:57:30] Joozey: you'd need to find someone who actually knows twiki :) [08:57:32] !engines [08:57:32] --mwbot-- For a comparison of wiki software, see and [08:58:21] Hello everybody. [08:58:28] Oh, that's a great site. Thanks. [08:59:37] I have a problem trying to run a bot from my account. While getting category members I'm being cut off after some number of them, like it can be 500 or 2000, it seems to depend on the time when I try to do this [08:59:58] Does mediawiki software imply limit based on server traffic or something? [09:03:24] Plushy: Do you use the API for this? [09:04:15] RoanKattouw: I use jwbf (java bot framework) and from what I see it uses the api querying 50 category members at the time [09:07:22] Plushy: So what happens after a certain number of queries? [09:08:37] RoanKattouw: well...it stops and I don't get more. [09:08:50] Then it's probably run out [09:09:11] RoanKattouw: run out? Run out like what? [09:09:27] It probably means there aren't any more [09:09:36] Unless jwbf is somehow broken [09:09:53] RoanKattouw: there are 11k pages in the category [09:10:04] Right now every time I press the button I get 150 [09:10:12] Right, but category counts are off sometimes [09:10:26] It stops at the same exact point every time? [09:10:33] Can you tell me which particular category this is? [09:10:53] RoanKattouw: right now, yes, but when I run it late at night I got 6000 [09:11:13] it pl.wiki : http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategoria:Album_infobox_bez_dopełniacza [09:12:20] Plushy: http://pl.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=categorymembers&cmtitle=Kategoria:Album%20infobox%20bez%20dope%C5%82niacza&cmlimit=max [09:12:32] Lists 500 members for me [09:12:43] No idea why jwbf only fetches 50 [09:13:10] I gotta go to class now, be back later [09:13:18] RoanKattouw: okay [09:14:49] hmm, the sidebar hack did not work for the banner ad [09:21:43] 03siebrand * r51584 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialWhatlinkshere.php: Follow-up to r49492: Add forgotten $this->setHeaders(); in execute(). [09:24:27] I think my banner is too wide [09:26:00] blast! its not working [09:35:19] 03werdna * r51585 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/abusefilter.tables.sql: Update abusefilter.tables.sql [09:48:30] 03(mod) Today's Featured Article Date Problem - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18738 (10kingjpk) [09:49:53] Hi! How can I create a link with query part (eg. &action=something&id=12345) in MW 1.11? In MW 1.14 I use Linker::Link() which works with array of query "part" just fine. In MW 1.11 I try Linker::makeKnownLinkObj() inherited in skin, and it accepts ONLY query string instead of array of query parts, and also it html escapes & signs with & :-( [09:51:21] I get /index.php?title=Special:Export&id=12345 [09:51:34] & is wrong. [09:52:34] you can use wfArrayToCGI to convert the array into a CGI string [09:54:59] I can't live without arrays with mere strings and ampersands I just don't like ampersands being encoded (escaped) to & [09:55:05] I can't = I can [09:55:49] I find it strange. maybe my simple mistake. I don't know. [09:56:50] paste your code somewhere, please [09:57:01] werdna: 1 sec. [09:58:02] http://pastebin.com/m20a5bb36 [09:58:23] I've pasted only a small part of this large php-generated js-function. [09:59:05] "wpDownload=1&pages='+xget('urlall').innerHTML+" [09:59:11] http://pastebin.com/m4c6b133 [09:59:24] werdna: a query part. [09:59:39] so you're doing something a bit weirder than you said :) [10:00:16] werdna: nope. from the point of PHP class there is not much of difference what to generate - a js function on the fly or a mere wikipage. [10:00:44] well, what's the output of makeKnownLinkObj there? [10:00:47] It's OLD mw 1.11 unfortunately :-( patched and not easy to upgrade. [10:00:49] and what do you expect it to be? [10:01:32] http://pastebin.com/m4323eea0 [10:01:48] oops.. I see the output is pretty wrong - it has nested anchors. [10:01:51] just the output of makeKnownLinkObj [10:01:58] not however you're mangling it [10:01:59] sorry maybe my simple screwup. [10:02:30] 1 sec. [10:03:45] http://pastebin.com/m73a8b66e [10:03:58] just the output. with & :-( [10:04:43] what's wrong with having &? [10:04:45] that's correct. [10:05:01] You always escape ampersands in HTML attributes.' [10:05:28] Hi folks, just started a wiki for a discussion forum I'm a moderator at. I'm in the Bureaucrats group (hate that name :) and I'm supposed to be able to grand other editors privileges and approve people as editors. Our fearless leader admin didn't upload the Mediawiki help so I've no idea how to do this and I don't see any buttons anywhere for it. I think I'm looking for userrights ? [10:05:37] so you beileve the query arguments will be passed just fine? [10:05:54] we can not allow anon edits unfortunately as we are constantly the subject of troll attacks from competing forums [10:05:55] tias. [10:06:12] !access [10:06:12] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [10:06:16] !userrights [10:06:16] --mwbot-- For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [10:06:30] Could anyone point me int he right direction or to a page that addresses this apecific isue? [10:06:50] cheers werdna [10:07:02] *Splarka snickers at werdna, and snickers at werdna [10:07:08] fielding these sorts of questions must get tiresome [10:07:26] Special:Userrights is the place to start [10:07:31] MisterE: all of the default rights usually are defined in includes/DefaultSettings.php, just copy them all to LocalSettings.php and customize as you wish. [10:07:48] 03siebrand * r51586 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (LogEventsList.php specials/SpecialNewimages.php): [10:07:48] Replace a few remaining uses of deprecated makeKnownLinkObj() by link[Known]() in core. Only uses in core remaining are in includes/Linker.php (all related to deprecated methods) and includes/parser/Parser.php. [10:07:48] Linking this to r51559 for CodeReview as there is some discussion there, and these changes are very similar. [10:08:13] this will work to disable anon rights. [10:12:34] *Alphos 's grunting because of parser functions >_> [10:12:51] cumulating these with wikitables will get the best of me XD [10:17:24] OK, I see I have a lot of learning to do. Thanks much for getting me off to a good start! [10:19:24] Hi can somone help me answering some newbee questions ? [10:19:49] !ask [10:20:24] OK I have found Special:userrights and it explains what I can do but where do I find the buttons to do it please? [10:20:50] I think i have seen somewhere that we can set sysadmin to "check" what people change before allowing it to be really seen. [10:20:54] I hope there is a GUI [10:20:58] Is it possible and HOw ? [10:21:17] Abigaelle: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs [10:21:35] in the spirit of wiki 'openness', new revisions are freely viewable, but are not shown by default, until reviewed [10:21:47] so you have to go to action=history to see them [10:22:23] Oky [10:22:40] Another Question [10:22:51] Can i change group right/possibility ? [10:23:05] MisterE: you input a name into the userrights box, and it gives you a list of rights you can grant or revoke [10:23:22] Abigaelle: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights [10:23:28] Hmm ok let me see if I can find that [10:23:30] thanks! [10:23:55] Damn Splarka you make me think i'm stupid as quick you answer ;) [10:24:04] But i have other questions ;) [10:24:42] Some tutorial to make a custom navigation bar on top of page ... for what is written in more than 1 page ? [10:24:53] (sorry for my english) [10:25:28] like navigating between a subset of common-themed pages? [10:25:49] that is generally done with templates, so you probably want... [10:25:51] !templates [10:25:51] --mwbot-- For more information about templates, see . The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions and enabling HTML Tidy . [10:26:23] Damn ;) [10:26:24] 03tstarling * r51587 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/updaters.inc: (bug 18846) Remove update_password_format(), unnecessary, destroys all passwords if a wiki with $wgPasswordSalt=false is upgraded with the web installer. [10:26:28] eg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:USPoliticalDivisions [10:26:30] Last question ! [10:27:08] Is there possibility to have categories for pages ? [10:27:20] umm [10:27:29] nope, no such support in MediaWiki [10:27:37] MediaWiki uses a series of pneumatic tubes [10:27:40] (I am joking) [10:27:45] ;) [10:27:45] !categories [10:27:45] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Categories [10:28:06] Thanks a lot Splarka [10:28:14] I have now things to read ;) [10:28:22] basically you "link" to a category on a page, and that page is then put into that category.. so for example [[Category:Cats]] on your page will make that page show up in that category [10:28:33] and also have a link to the category on the bottom of the page [10:28:38] Yes that was exactly what i want ;) [10:29:14] LOL Splarka, I got it [10:30:09] I 'am a little afraid about making my own "skin"... but really need it and well know php/css. [10:30:16] Is it very hard ? [10:31:04] *Splarka jumps through the window and runs off screaming into the night [10:31:54] *Abigaelle laught [10:32:03] *Alphos pneumatizes Splarka :p [10:32:07] !skin [10:32:07] --mwbot-- Overview: . Skin usage: . Gallery of CSS styles: . Writing your own: [10:32:13] Nice ;) [10:32:33] Thanks for the tip Splarka see you very soon ! (hihihi) [10:32:56] Cya all [10:45:37] 03(CLOSED) in IE7 Java - all controls are non-responsive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18935 (10eran.kuziel) [10:59:40] 03(mod) using Java engine - scrubber does not move in progress bar when clip is playing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19123 (10eran.kuziel) [11:07:39] how do I remove the history box from non logged in users? [11:17:38] Right thanks again for getting me going folks. [11:20:13] 03(FIXED) Download function doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19029 (10eran.kuziel) [11:20:27] 03(FIXED) seek does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18895 (10eran.kuziel) [11:26:04] 03(NEW) with Java engine - clip does not play when clicking on the video area play button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19125 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: MetaVidWiki; (eran.kuziel) [11:36:15] 03(NEW) All subcategories get "Array" glued to them (&0=known&1=noclasses) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19126 critical; Normal; MediaWiki: Categories; (jidanni) [11:58:37] 'critical' jidanni bug... two drinks [12:06:11] Splarka: drinks of something light or heavy? [12:08:04] =) [12:08:06] drinks in whatever context you are playing along with, ranging from absinthe to M&Ms [12:08:57] I mean, obviously the safe route is absinthe, M&Ms are made in a factory with nuts, and peanut allergies and all... [12:11:12] M&M's infused in something or just drinking M&M's plain [12:11:18] because either way is fun [12:12:43] 03(mod) Small changes to Special:DoubleRedirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19097 +comment (10ahmad.m.sherif) [12:25:39] 03(mod) All subcategories get "Array" glued to them (&0=known&1=noclasses) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19126 04CRIT->normal; +comment (10ahmad.m.sherif) [12:43:51] 03(mod) All subcategories get "Array" glued to them (&0=known&1=noclasses) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19126 (10siebrand) [12:46:17] 03siebrand * r51588 10/trunk/phase3/includes/CategoryPage.php: (bug 19126) Follow-up to r51559: replace a period with a comma to get expected results. [12:48:56] 03(mod) Small changes to Special:DoubleRedirects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19097 +comment (10siebrand) [12:49:30] 03(mod) All subcategories get "Array" glued to them (&0=known&1=noclasses) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19126 (10ahmad.m.sherif) [12:50:19] 03(FIXED) All subcategories get "Array" glued to them (&0=known&1=noclasses) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19126 +comment (10siebrand) [12:59:56] Splarka ! Nice to meet you again ;) [13:00:38] I have a question : when installing Extension:FlaggedRevs, it ask me to run : maintenance/archives/populateSha1.php but in "command line" how to do this ? [13:02:24] 03(FIXED) Pause button doesn't pause the video - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18928 (10ariel.hitron) [13:03:21] 03(CLOSED) Pause button doesn't pause the video - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18928 (10ariel.hitron) [13:03:24] Slan, you're Abigaelle ? [13:03:52] 03(FIXED) Firefox crashes when trying to play the video - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18926 (10ariel.hitron) [13:04:07] [12:29:37] I 'am a little afraid about making my own "skin"... but really need it and well know php/css. /// to be quite honest, if you don't know what a command line interface is, you've missed half of PHP ^^' [13:04:09] 03(CLOSED) Firefox crashes when trying to play the video - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18926 (10ariel.hitron) [13:05:07] oop, gotta sleep, sunrise... but google for "command line" or check the FAQ of your hosting/provider/etc [13:05:39] Alphos i have not my own server [13:05:56] It's a shared server [13:06:00] So no command line [13:06:04] what provider ? [13:06:08] OVH [13:06:10] french one [13:06:12] hm [13:06:15] kimsufi ? [13:06:29] Kimsufi is a owned server [13:06:34] Mine is not, it's shared [13:06:37] not all of them ;) [13:06:49] and some offers with ovh give access to the shell [13:06:52] We don't have acces to pho.ini or command line [13:07:00] php.ini [13:07:07] well, i daresay, you're fucked ^^' [13:07:23] So the "command line" the Wikimedia ask is same that the server one [13:07:59] well, it's not "the same as the server one", it IS "the server one" [13:08:27] Well there should be a way to run the script without command line [13:10:07] c'mon devs, off to work, give a way to run a possible multiple-hour-script without the CLI :D [13:10:45] it's possible in theory [13:11:52] d'you know the difference between theory and reality, werdna ? [13:12:34] theoretically, there is none ; but really... [13:12:49] ;-) [13:13:06] is it really easier to type "d'you" than "do you"? [13:13:35] no, exactly the same as "it's" [13:14:33] Alphos: that's a non-point. [13:14:41] :D [13:14:50] you could easily spawn a new process, which could fork() and do the changes in the background [13:15:33] yeah, but not sure it could work with strictly no access to the CLI, and PHP limited in this way [13:16:31] you know almost everything works at a command line basis? [13:17:11] what do you mean ? [13:31:41] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MaintenanceShell [13:31:55] This explain how to use maintenance script without command lines [13:32:00] See you soon [13:32:07] =) [13:32:15] I know how to run something without using CLI [13:32:19] call someone who has access to CLI! [13:32:21] \o/ [13:32:23] :) [13:32:57] *werdna drinks excessive quantities of pepsi [13:33:38] pfft coke is where it's at [13:33:57] (and yes i'm referring the drink, for those that think i'm a druggie) [13:34:14] you are a druggie [13:34:25] pfft i only deal [13:35:44] I swear I've gone mad [13:35:59] I didn't back up a directory called 'Data' from my main computer to my portable HDD when I left sydney [13:36:02] srsly [13:36:25] vpn is where its at [13:37:31] anyway its 11:30 and i have tafe tomorrow [13:37:31] well yes, that's what I'm doing now [13:37:33] but it's slow [13:37:35] lol tafe [13:37:52] you have to do WORK [13:37:58] (well, schoolwork) [13:37:59] pfft the course i'm doing is better than the version at uni [13:38:18] like fuck i'm getting into debt for student loans when i can do it cheaper and better [13:38:40] ;) [13:39:54] Hi folks, got a quick question: How does one set an icon for the Search Plugin? I have a FavIcon set [figuring that would be used for SearchPlugin] but SearchPlugin is empty without an icon. [13:40:15] morinin' folks. is it possible to allow upload of arbitrary-typed files (besides image files)? if so, could you steer me toward the appropriate tweaking docs? [13:40:29] 14(DUP) Random Base Page Only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19101 +comment (10innocentkiller) [13:40:30] 03(mod) Have a Special:Randombook, or similar, that only returns top-level pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13051 +comment (10innocentkiller) [13:40:39] !uploaf [13:40:39] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "uploaf". [13:40:43] !upload [13:40:43] --mwbot-- File uploads are disabled per default, set $wgEnableUploads=true to enable it. See for configuration details, and for using uploaded images and other files. [13:41:37] thx andrew [13:41:52] 03(mod) check $wgUseExternalEditor, $wgExternalDiffEngine before showing Preference - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19112 +reviewed; +comment (10innocentkiller) [13:42:24] Anyone know how to set a Search Plugin icon? [14:00:14] how to keep multiple instances of mediawiki in sync, to have one of them "live" and the others standby? then being able to switch DNS from one server to another on the fly? rsync for the files and mysql master slave replication ? [14:01:46] Woohoo [14:01:49] mediawiki rules [14:01:56] yar. [14:02:10] my respects to its writers & contributors [14:02:35] I've rarely seen such complex webapp but still very reliable and easy to configure [14:03:01] \o/ [14:03:19] MuisjeRC2: did you use SVN? [14:03:30] Heh [14:03:33] i said rarely [14:03:38] i didn't say never [14:03:45] I am trying to install MobileSkin and i'm getting an odd error on 'first run' http://pastebin.com/m39c63cf9 [14:03:47] easy to configure? [14:03:48] jeez :P [14:03:59] It effectively dumps the .php file to boot, and then gives header errors. [14:04:05] Yeah, to get it off its easy but you can make is as complex as possible werdna [14:04:30] I meant "Did you use SVN to get the code?" ... makes it ridiculously easy to upgrade [14:05:05] The one thing i miss is to be able to create own usergroups, but i'm sure i've overlooked something in the FAQ/Doc or extension so, i'mma do my research first :) [14:07:35] i'm having trouble finding the syntax to do inline code formatting. like when i want to format a file path, or similar, or a few-word snippet of code, what's the appropriate syntax? [14:07:55] Isn't therwe ? [14:08:08] Rather [code]? [14:08:20] kinda thought i rememebered backticks, but that might have been another wiki format. yeah, maybe [code] does inline, thought it was block. i'll try [14:09:10] jamiejackson: http://ideathinking.com/wiki/index.php/MediaWiki:CodeHighlighterExtension [14:09:21] Did a google, andfound that random extension. [14:09:25] No idea on how worthy it is. [14:09:58] that's a good one to know about, but not exactly for this case, thx JerseyMonkey [14:10:25] [code] doesn't seem to parse [14:10:53] jamiejackson: if you want syntax highlighting, try GeSHi [14:10:55] the html version works fine, tho [14:10:59] !geshi | jamiejackson [14:10:59] --mwbot-- jamiejackson: there are several extensions for syntax highlighting, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Syntax_highlighting - the most popular one is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi [14:11:02] [code] is just text -- you are looking for [14:11:12] Mike_lifeguard: yeah, is what i want [14:11:25] thx [14:11:49] [anything] isn't a parseable tag ever [14:12:44] Mike_lifeguard: external links? [14:13:12] hi, does mediawiki have an option to make specific pages only readable to registered users? [14:13:17] I meant for formatting... [14:13:25] which is still abiguous I guess :) [14:13:25] I'm a nub, so forgive this. When I write an extension that can replace a {{#blah}} tag with text, it seems to format wiki code fine other than table of contents data/headers. Is there a way to fix that? [14:13:26] ah :P [14:13:27] i'd like to merge public and private wikis [14:14:07] !lockdown | aep [14:14:07] --mwbot-- aep: Lockdown is an extension for preventing read or write access by namespace and limiting access to special pages. For more information, see < http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown >. For general information on preventing access to your wiki, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [14:14:18] thanks [14:15:11] 03(NEW) Update from 1_14 to 1_15(RC1) / 1_16 fails with postgresql - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19127 major; Normal; MediaWiki: Database; (pvizeli) [14:15:33] ew that has a huge warning saying mediawiki is the wrong choice for that. any alternatives? [14:15:46] D: [14:17:45] 03siebrand * r51589 10/trunk/extensions/Duplicator/Duplicator.i18n.php: Note plural support and document parameters. [14:18:07] aep: keep the wikis seperate ;) [14:18:37] can i use svn to update but mark files before that have my own changes, so they are not overwritten, or even better, it gives me a dialog "new version, your changes, diff , merge" [14:18:37] thats what we have, yes, but its a little uncomfortable having to look up in two locations [14:19:37] aep: MediaWiki is designed to be open - if that's not what you want, then maybe that's not what you want :P [14:19:50] exactly [14:20:00] however, many people have had good results using various extensions for restricting access [14:20:01] Hrm [14:20:04] i need partialy hidden pages for customer specific info :( [14:20:07] *Skizzerz is attempting to code a more cms-like permissions system, but it's going slowly [14:20:18] What sort of extensions for restricting access? [14:20:20] but please note !worstcase and/or !morbo [14:20:33] *^demon stabs Skizzerz [14:20:37] plus, I'd need approval from like everyone to make sure it doesn't get reverted the moment I commit it :) [14:20:38] <^demon> use a cms! [14:21:34] aep: partially-hidden pages are probably not do-able at all [14:21:54] ^demon: more cms-like in the fashion that rights can be revoked by belonging to certain usergroups, plus some more finer-grained perms... per-page/per-namespace reading restrictions will still need to be handled by extensions [14:22:27] this will just make them more secure :) [14:24:59] aep: you can use gpg to encrypt text, ascii armor it, paste it into wiki pages, and give the users a shared key. they can then mark the text and encrypt with a local tool :p [14:25:07] :D [14:25:18] eh, decrypt [14:25:59] i would do that on a page for the admins that is called "password list" etc [14:26:51] since they had local "windows privacy tray" and gnupg, all they had to do was mark the text and "decrypt from clipboard" [14:34:30] uazaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap [14:35:33] !morbo [14:35:33] --mwbot-- http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/330/morbomediawikiaf9.jpg [14:36:05] lol :D [14:36:38] haha [14:37:06] usage FAIL! [14:39:47] Greetings. Is there perchance an extension that would allow basic math (add, subtract is all I really need) in a page? I have a list, and I'd like to tag some prices in it. At the end, I have a summary table, and I'd like to add those values. So what would be neat is saying , and the $38.95 would show up as text (or not, that would even be OK). The in the table I would say something like f="z99" value="=a1+a2+a3"> The references could be spreadsheet types, or completely arbitrary. [14:40:04] Hmm. [14:40:06] !parserfunctions [14:40:06] --mwbot-- "Parser functions" are a way to extend the wiki syntax. ParserFunctions is an extension that provides the basic set of parser functions (you have to install it separately!). For help using parser functions, please see . For details about the extension, see . [14:40:15] my thoughts exactly [14:40:17] Install that extension. It has an #expr: function. [14:40:27] freakolowsky: Too slow. [14:40:48] Interesting. I will go read. [14:40:51] And then ask more questions :) [14:40:54] i know i know ... tough weekend ... two very drunk Bdays [14:40:59] :D [14:41:19] i'll be reassembled later today ... maybe [14:41:29] Hah. I've already given up today. [14:41:34] +on [14:42:44] 03(FIXED) LiquidThreads colours are ugly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18948 +comment (10agarrett) [14:43:24] oh goodie ... schema changes once again ... [14:43:39] werdna: Is that FIX attached to a revision? [14:45:25] #expr does indeed do calculations, but as near as I can tell, it doesn't allow any sort of variables or symbolic names. I could install the Variables extension, but then the markup seems to start getting ugly. [14:45:46] Do you know what templates are? [14:46:00] Are? yes. Use effectively? No. [14:46:11] {{#expr: {{{1}}} - {{{2}}} }} <-- You can do things like this. [14:46:36] Where you make that a template and then you can do {{template|1= 2 |2= 0}} to get 2. [14:46:38] Or whatever. [14:48:53] Is it possible to redirect a category page to an article? [14:49:30] Maybe? You can enable category redirects in newer versions of MW. [14:51:22] #REDIRECT [[OSI network model]] [14:51:25] does not work :p [14:53:08] oh nevermind, me failed terribly [14:56:55] 03werdna * r51590 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/lqt.css: Make th underlines solid black instead of grey [14:58:03] I saw that there are many environments in a wiki, and there a command to switch to an other environment, is there a list of these environments and a list of the switching command valid in each particular environment? [14:58:10] Is there a way to update all thumbnails after I make use of ImageMagick? [14:59:06] **rebuild [14:59:42] Subfader: $wgCacheEpoch probably [15:01:08] hmh does that include re-creating thumb files? [15:05:56] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgThumbnailEpoch [15:06:47] thanks! [15:07:41] 03werdna * r51591 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Fix logging for thread moves [15:10:22] 03vasilievvv * r51592 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/ (FileRepo.php ForeignAPIRepo.php NullRepo.php): Add fileExistsBatch method to FileRepo and derived classes (per comments on r49001) [15:10:28] die liste ist nicht vollständig source ist zum Beispiel nicht enthalten [15:10:54] {| |} auch nicht [15:10:54] hey mdale [15:11:00] yo [15:11:07] 03(FIXED) Confusing log entries when moving threads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17519 +comment (10agarrett) [15:21:32] Is it possible to get the [mark as patrolled] option in the recent changes file? So you don't have to go an old version if you already checked a newer version [15:48:15] 03(mod) no email notifications from LQT discussions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15414 +comment (10agarrett) [16:01:36] does anyone else experience issues with the extensiondistributor? [16:07:31] MuisjeRC2: what kind of issues? [16:07:55] slow, not loading (got an unreachable error twice) [16:12:43] 14(INVALID) Irrelevant stream sources are displayed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18927 (10eran.kuziel) [16:13:44] 03(CLOSED) Irrelevant stream sources are displayed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18927 (10eran.kuziel) [16:15:47] MuisjeRC2: works for me [16:16:01] yeah it works now indeed [16:18:56] 06(LATER) 'mv_user_cant_edit' hard to localise - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19066 (10dale) [16:21:01] Is it possible to rename pages? [16:21:09] other than deleting the old name [16:22:59] anyone know when 1.15 will be released? [16:23:33] tomorrow [16:24:23] *werdna bakes cookies [16:25:12] sweet, thanks [16:25:16] :) [16:26:38] MuisjeRC2: use the "move" tab [16:26:41] TimStarling: What's the branch to use on sites these days? I'm currently using branches/REL1_15/ [16:27:10] 1.15 is in release candidate stage last time I checked [16:27:12] that's a reasonable choice [16:27:23] yes it's an RC [16:27:44] yeah i figured it wouldn't work on categories [16:27:50] TimStarling: Is there a better one to use, or is that the right one? [16:30:04] that depends on whether you value more features or less bugs [16:31:03] fewer [16:32:20] 14(WFM) javascript error while playing clip in IE6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19038 (10dale) [16:32:27] TimStarling: So are you saying it's between r48811, REL1_15, and HEAD? ;-) [16:32:49] r48811 is a bad idea ;) [16:32:51] r48811 is a bad idea, it has lots of known bugs [16:33:02] hehe :) [16:33:43] Which is why Wikipedia is running it? :S [16:33:47] it's not [16:34:05] but it says r48811 [16:34:05] it's running r48811 with so many patches that it's basically equivalent to REL1_15 [16:34:21] X_X [16:34:29] if you want bleeding edge you should use r51535, that's where I've reviewed up to [16:34:56] Wow, you're pretty close to being caught up to the latest revision [16:35:48] I'm not sure if all of our extensions are compatible with the new preference systems yet. [16:35:48] in that case... [16:35:53] lemme add one more to the list :D [16:37:43] TimStarling: are the uniq prefixes all alphanumeric or do they have any other special characters in them? [16:38:08] they have special characters [16:38:21] if it was all alphanumeric then it would interfere with link trails [16:38:27] as in, those that have special meanings in regular expressions [16:38:44] that's what preg_quote() is for [16:39:06] I know, I was just wondering if I could shave a few function calls off :) [16:39:23] you could cache it [16:39:35] it probably would be cached anyway [16:39:46] it's for DISPLAYTITLE [16:40:27] I'm not saying there's definitely a metacharacter in there, but I'm certainly not going to recommend introducing a forwards-compatibility bug risk in exchange for a few microseconds [16:40:34] true [16:41:16] or was it the 12 bytes of code required that had you worried? [16:41:57] no, it was the microseconds :P [16:43:07] 03(NEW) style="clear: both;" causing problems with customized skins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19128 minor; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (ulrich) [16:45:25] Hmm, mwbot's back? [16:45:52] *werdna starts following wwdc [16:46:41] good idea :) [16:46:52] 03tparscal * r51593 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/ (EditToolbar.hooks.php EditToolbar.php): Added configuration variables for globally enabling the toolbar as well as enabling/disabling the per-user opt-in via user preferences. [16:47:41] http://theappleblog.com/live/ for those who want to :) [16:51:31] hey all. I'm aware of the $wgEmailConfirmToEdit variable in LocalSettings.php. Is there an equivalent like "wgEmailConfirmForNewAccount" ? [16:51:59] I'm getting a lot of spurious users being created who can't confirm their email addresses. From Spammers, of course [16:53:46] centosian: hmm, I don't think so, because you can't confirm the email without an account to confirm the email for [16:53:50] right [16:53:53] 03skizzerz * r51594 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/parser/CoreParserFunctions.php): [16:53:53] * DISPLAYTITLE fixes: [16:53:53] ** DISPLAYTITLE now parses the single-quote items of wiki markup (bold and italic). [16:53:53] ** Remove UNIQ markers from the output due to people putting tags in there (nowiki, ref, etc.). [16:53:53] ** Forbid hr and br elements from being in DISPLAYTITLE as well. [16:54:21] hm, how about not having the account activated / appear in the Changes until the user confirms? [16:54:50] That's to prodego and werdna [16:55:03] <^demon> centoslan: no core functionality for that. ConfirmAccount extension might be helpful for you though. [16:55:12] ^demon: looking [16:55:24] the ConfirmAccount extention requires manual review of new accounts though [16:55:50] hm, not really what I want [16:56:07] <^demon> yes, true. [16:58:55] you might be able to modify it [16:59:16] werdna: how so? [16:59:29] 03tparscal * r51595 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/EditToolbar.css: Added rtl support. [17:03:32] You'd have to make the newuserlog code be triggered on confirmation, rather than on registration, I suppose [17:06:46] 03(NEW) Make the installer handle storage engines better - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19129 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Installation; (Emufarmers) [17:24:58] <^demon> "Safari 4 goes live today for Tiger, Leopard and Windows" [17:28:04] 03tparscal * r51596 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/EditToolbar.css: Fixed rtl bug. [17:30:26] 03catrope * r51597 10/branches/querypage-work/phase3/includes/ (34 files in 2 dirs): querypage-work: Replacing wfSpecialWhatever() functions with real constructors for querypages [17:30:47] 03tparscal * r51598 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/EditToolbar.css: Fixed another rtl bug. [17:31:07] 03(NEW) Special:GlobalGroupPermissions shows always 'view/edit' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19130 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (umherirrender_de.wp) [17:40:13] 03(NEW) Group not specified on Special:GlobalUsers with inline wiki link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19131 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (umherirrender_de.wp) [17:48:14] 03(mod) Change favicon for Wiktionaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16315 (10conrad.irwin) [17:53:10] 03tparscal * r51599 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Added optional selective text-labels for groups, restructured the toolbar definition format, reorganized the format toolbar a bit, modified the format icons for sizing to be more vertically centered. [17:58:42] 03jan * r51600 10/trunk/extensions/Poll/Poll_body.php: [17:58:42] Fixes for r51338: [17:58:42] * Remove isset($_POST['controll_delete']) [17:58:42] * Replace $_POST with $wgRequest->getVal [18:05:14] 03(NEW) Cite pages date/time stamp error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19132 minor; Normal; MediaWiki: Documentation; (spcheck) [18:06:07] why was special:categorytree cut to only one level depth? [18:11:22] 03tparscal * r51601 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/EditToolbar.css: Made subtle tweaks to the style of selective text labels on groups. [18:12:34] Hey [18:14:36] 03jan * r51602 10/trunk/extensions/Poll/Poll_body.php: Fixes for r51600: Use instead of isset($wgRequest->getVal('controll_delete')) $wgRequest->getCheck('controll_delete') [18:14:45] We're making an installer app a bit like francisco and are wondering if you have a release rss feed we can parse or a latest.zip or some way of getting our robot to download the latest version of mediawiki [18:15:24] Is anyone here a MediaWiki developer? [18:16:17] anyone? [18:16:26] I can't find a way to contact the devs on the mediawiki website [18:16:33] My, but you are impatient. [18:16:38] sorry [18:16:58] =)) [18:17:05] While I couldn't tell you who is and is not a developer myself, I do know some hide out here. [18:17:06] Joel: getting an answer on irc takes between 5 seconds and 5 hours. be patient. [18:17:08] maybe sourceforge supports some feed? [18:17:12] or try the mailing list. [18:17:21] cause we seem to do release announcements there too [18:17:22] And probably are doing other things besides just waiting to punce on a question to answer. [18:17:29] ok [18:17:31] pounce* [18:17:42] Create a user-page and drop {{MW stable release link}} inside :D [18:17:53] and you'll always have the latest link :D [18:17:59] Making a php script recieve email, and parse the link to the latest version of MediaWiki is really hard. [18:18:06] you can also use the change feed of that, but that's a bit hacky :) [18:18:07] there's a latest link? [18:18:10] like with wordpress? [18:18:15] actually, there's a mailing list announcing releases [18:18:20] WordPress was so easy because they have a latest.zip [18:18:25] no there is a template for latest link which you can use [18:18:29] i have been wanting an rss feed for that for a while now. but afaik it doesn't exit [18:18:36] ok [18:18:54] So what's this template for the latest link? [18:18:58] Is there an api so we can use it? [18:19:15] no. [18:19:18] ok [18:19:19] Whipstersh: just created Oracle installation trough config/index.php .... and the crowd goead WIIIILD!! [18:19:30] well... kind of. hold on [18:19:33] ok [18:19:38] oops ... i thought i wrote PS :D [18:20:10] <^demon> freaklowsky: oracle works through installer? \o/ [18:20:13] Is there a document on writing parser extension, or a tutorial? [18:20:18] Oracle MySQL [18:20:19] works fine! [18:20:21] from 1 minute ago :D [18:20:28] jcw I haven't found one [18:20:32] you know, Mediawiki has been running on Oracle technology for quite a while [18:20:33] who tha man ... WHO DA MAN!!! [18:20:36] Oracle InnoDB [18:20:40] lol [18:20:41] Joel: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:MW_stable_release_link?action=render <-- you can rip it from there. [18:20:45] best we have right now [18:20:49] thanks [18:20:57] does anyone know how to have a wgRequest carry on for multiple pages or doing something of the sort? [18:21:03] rss would be nice. could be used to prompt wiki admins to upgrade. [18:21:11] so much nice ideas, so little time to code [18:21:18] Duesentrieb, is that dynamic? [18:21:25] ...that link you just sent [18:21:28] it's the latest version? [18:21:32] yes. [18:21:35] Awesome! [18:21:36] Thanks [18:21:45] np [18:21:46] <^demon> tc-nbigelow: you could copy wgrequest to a new variable and use it maybe? [18:22:01] You just saved me a lot of time figuring out how to parse it from the html on the MediaWiki download page. [18:22:06] or http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:MW_stable_release_number&action=raw [18:22:06] Duesentrieb and that link is probabbly cached, so in a way ... it's like RSS :D [18:22:06] Joel: this is not an official interface, so it may break without notice [18:22:11] ok [18:22:23] I'll make a function to email me if it doesn't find that page. [18:22:24] <^demon> instantiating a new webrequest is bad bad bad. it breaks $_GET and $_POST [18:22:38] that way I can quickly get to it. [18:24:03] 03(mod) Activation of subpages feature on frwiki ns=15 (Category_talk) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18835 (10Kropotkine113) [18:24:04] Thanks so much, Duesentrieb. [18:24:50] it should be on instantinstall.org sometime this month [18:25:05] We haven't launched it yet so there's nothing there at the moment. [18:25:17] Ingenious! [18:25:23] neat. perhaps come back and show us once it has launched. [18:25:26] That way, if you don't, know will ever know you didn't! [18:25:28] ok [18:25:31] but i guess you would have to show at a lot of places.. [18:25:40] yeah lol [18:26:19] So basically you go here, click on the app you want, enter your ftp info, and it puts a script on your server that downloads the latest version of the app you selected, extracts it, and takes you to the installation process. [18:26:43] or you can download, upload, and run the script yourself. [18:26:51] should be good [18:27:04] I'll tell you when we launch it. [18:27:09] I don't like applications (like Wordpress) that make me open up an FTP port for upgrades. [18:27:16] lol [18:27:22] they don't anymore I believe [18:27:26] they use file_get_contents now I think [18:27:38] now to find out how to get the latest version of zen cart [18:27:53] Thanks again for your help. [18:27:55] Bye [18:30:40] 03freakolowsky * r51603 10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 5 dirs): Web installation support for Oracle. [18:31:19] wiii ... now for the maintenance junk :S ... me so happy ... note the sarcasm [18:32:34] <^demon> freakolowsky: maintenance scripts need unifying. [18:34:20] maintenance scripts need mainenance [18:35:45] ^demon: i think the best thing to do would be to create a general maintenance class and every DB abstraction would just overload that one ... [18:36:44] <^demon> freakolowsky: my thoughts exactly. im filing a bug right now so i dont forget (its been a long dream of mine) [18:36:54] but the first step i would vote for would be a unified upgrade script ... [18:37:16] ^demon: count me in on resolving this bug ... CC me [18:37:44] 03(NEW) Maintenance script cleanup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19133 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (innocentkiller) [18:38:34] i've got about 14 days until vacation ... so if you whip togeather a master plan i could get crackin on the execution ... [18:40:17] <^demon> freakolowsky: master plan is "fix it" [18:41:01] lol :D [18:41:53] break that apart in a few tasks ... [18:44:06] ok ... now i have a date wth a 4pack of kilkenny :D l8rz dudez (and dudettes :D) [18:50:33] Must say the the extensiondistributor is a pain in the a** [18:50:47] automatically refering to a select box [18:50:52] (empty) [18:55:57] svn: Working copy '/mnt/upload5/private/ExtensionDistributor/mw-snapshot/branches/REL1_14/extensions' locked [18:55:57] svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details) [19:01:27] 03(mod) Allow maint scripts to accept DB user/pass over input or params if no AdminSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16322 (10innocentkiller) [19:01:29] 03(mod) Maintenance script cleanup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19133 (10innocentkiller) [19:16:45] is there anyway to keep a user updated on the status of a process that a special page is doing? [19:17:17] TC-nbigelow: Semantic MediaWiki does it [19:18:20] chuck: i'm working on a project that is reluctant to use semantic mediawiki at this time [19:19:03] No, I'm saying that Semantic MediaWiki has a progress bar to show the status of something in one of their special pages. You could look at their code and see how they do it. [19:23:31] Duesentrieb: great to hear about the toolservers [19:34:55] OK, I've been tinkering with the ideas for a spreadsheet extension (a simple spreadsheet). Anyone want to tear this idea to bits? http://www.tinymicros.com/wiki/MediaWiki_SpreadSheet [19:39:53] needs more cowbell [19:40:07] True. But then again, what doesn't? [20:07:38] <^demon> Someone mind changing that back? i can't from my phone [20:10:05] ^demon: I don't have it in my backlog [20:10:37] Found it [20:10:49] <^demon> chuck: thanks. [20:11:02] *^demon waves at RoanKattouw [20:13:57] *RoanKattouw waves back at ^demon [20:14:15] ^demon: I tried to get Tim to do the redirect schema change but I committed it a few minutes too late :( [20:14:41] <^demon> i saw :'( [20:22:41] 03(NEW) Enter Search box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19134 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Inputbox; (Eneas) [20:24:44] hm, no brion yet. [20:25:26] 03(mod) Cite pages date/time stamp error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19132 +comment (10innocentkiller) [20:25:29] isn't he in the office today? [20:29:36] 03(mod) IE7:Pressing enter discard selected namespaces in search box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19134 summary; +comment (10Eneas) [20:30:51] does anyone know how to have a special page flush out php output to keep progress up to date [20:32:24] TC-nbigelow: that's a pretty vague question. what kind of progress? [20:32:37] !purge [20:32:37] --mwbot-- To purge a cached page, such as when making changes to the navigation bar, add &action=purge to the end of the page url, or ?action=purge if using Simple URLs. E.g: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?action=purge [20:32:47] that's *one* answer [20:32:51] 03(mod) IE7:Pressing enter discard selected namespaces in search box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19134 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [20:33:27] Duesentrieb: Well I'm making an extension to massively create pages via csv files, but I'm afraid the tool is more difficult if there isn't any out progress [20:34:11] TC-nbigelow: well, in a plain and simple php app, you would just call flush(). [20:34:12] TC-nbigelow: Is it an option to implement this as a command-line script? [20:34:19] that only works though if you have no output buffering [20:34:34] mediawiki does not start output before all computation is complete [20:34:45] in that case, it's not really possible. [20:34:47] Duesentrieb: yeah I'm making a special page [20:34:50] at least not without relying on ajax [20:35:16] live progress indicators in web applications are problematic in general. [20:35:43] one way would be to start a background job and monitor it using page reloads. [20:36:05] Or break it into parts and have each part forward to the next. [20:36:20] Duesentrieb: do you think a series of 100 or so refreshes would be too much? [20:36:34] The only real problem is PHP timeouts, though, and that's not an issue if you aren't on shared hosting. [20:36:38] depends on the time between them [20:36:55] yes, chunking is a bit nicer than monitoring, but tends to be harder to implement [20:37:11] Duesentrieb: Also the tool is only to be used by a bureaucrat user, s/he may understand the implications and be more understanding [20:37:16] Not if you're on shared hosting, surely? [20:37:31] If you aren't on shared hosting, why not just turn off max_execution_time and do unbuffered output? [20:37:37] Or flush the buffer every few seconds, anyway. [20:37:52] Simetrical: unbuffered output doesn't work with mediawiki skins, does it? [20:38:05] Oh, with MediaWiki skins. [20:38:12] The installer manages it. [20:38:16] You'd have to fake it somehow, I guess. [20:38:17] on a special page even [20:38:25] i think the installer fakes the skin :) [20:38:31] Yeah, exactly. [20:41:09] yeah that's what i was basing it off of [20:41:17] don't. [20:41:17] i was looking at the installing index.php [20:41:23] yeah i realized that now [20:41:32] if you want it to run as a special page inside mediawiki, don't. [20:41:39] well, you can make it a standalone script, of course [20:41:44] but that has other sucky implications [20:41:56] like a lot of pain to even set up the user session, etc [20:43:10] yeah exactly [20:43:22] i'm going to try the series of page refreshes right now and see how that works out [20:43:39] yea... [20:43:50] if it goes too fast do you think i should have a sleep just so it isn't too messy? [20:43:51] you'll probably need nohup to create a persistent background job btw [20:43:57] 03dale * r51604 10/branches/new-upload/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (33 files in 12 dirs): [20:43:57] reorganized doLoad class loading structure [20:43:57] * renamed files to more closely match the main defined class/object of the javascript script [20:43:57] * we define autoLoad js classes in mv_embed head (instead of inline) [20:43:57] ** (this avoids multiple copies of script paths scattered thought the code) [20:43:57] ** simplifies autoloading of javascript classes [20:44:01] * updated the php autoloading class locations [20:44:10] TC-nbigelow: just refresh at regular intervals. 3 sec or something. [20:44:32] actually that might be even tougher [20:45:02] since it is processing a file and i can't find a way to have a file carry between more than one page refreshes [20:45:15] huh` [20:45:28] a file is a file... it doesn't magically disappear... [20:46:31] rm stands for "remove magically", doesn't it ? :p [20:46:38] hehehe [20:47:11] "rm -rf /" then "poof" [20:47:51] Most versions of rm these days will fail with an error if you try that, happily. [20:48:00] $ rm -rf / [20:48:00] rm: cannot remove root directory `/' [20:48:00] :D [20:48:06] *Simetrical didn't do it as root, notice, just in case :P [20:48:12] hehehe [20:48:18] 03tparscal * r51605 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/images/ (5 files): Tweaked the icons a bit - removing down arrows on insert icons to make room for larger primary icon imagary. [20:50:04] 03daniel * r51606 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWord/src/main/php/ (config.sample.php wwutils.php): image search support, first try [20:50:28] 03(NEW) Getting database error when trying to save filter containing umlaut or regex - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19135 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (Wiki.Melancholie) [20:53:19] <^demon> work day over, later folks [20:56:07] ENOPIZZA [20:57:21] Hey. If I've got a wiki where the article names are all currently in Title Case (don't ask) and I want to change them to Sentence case (much cleaner and nicer), is there an easy way to do it? I'd rather not manually rename ~3000 articles... [20:59:19] AerosAtar: there is a maintenance script to rename pages [20:59:43] probably something like maintenance/renamePages.php [21:00:54] maintenance/moveBatch.php I think [21:01:13] RobH: You around by any chance? [21:01:15] 03(mod) Getting database error when trying to save filter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19135 summary; +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [21:01:23] AerosAtar: I'm sure you could use a regex and that script that Mike_lifeguard just said to do it [21:02:07] Any way to get a list of article names that moveBatch can use? I've looked at the various Dump scripts, but they all output to the screen. [21:02:26] redirect output to a file? [21:03:22] my scripting skills are virtually nil, so.... ummm... how? :) [21:04:13] command > filename [21:04:21] 03daniel * r51607 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWord/src/main/php/ (config.sample.php wikiword.php): image search ui [21:05:17] 03tparscal * r51608 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/EditToolbar.css: Made the CSS adjustments to visually attach the toolbar to the textarea below it. Twaeked some of the padding and margins of buttons. [21:11:22] 03(mod) Getting database error when trying to save filter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19135 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [21:12:11] Hmm... which would the best dump script be for getting a list of articles? [21:12:39] Special:Export ? [21:13:08] For use with maintenance/MoveBatch.php [21:13:08] use the api? [21:18:46] 03(FIXED) Change favicon for Wiktionaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16315 +comment (10rhalsell) [21:25:40] 03daniel * r51609 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWord/src/main/php/wwutils.php: oops, syntax.. [21:27:31] 03(mod) Getting database error when trying to save filter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19135 (10agarrett) [21:35:04] hi folks. Having some trouble converting a large html file to media wiki format [21:35:15] anyone could give me a hand? [21:35:24] I have downloaded the raw HTML [21:35:47] comes from the google cache of a defunt web site [21:35:53] defunct [21:36:06] There's not really an easy way to convert HTML to wikitext [21:36:25] that's what I am learing [21:36:35] I think Wikia wrote a reverse parser for their WYSIWYG editor [21:36:44] get errors trying to use the couple tools that are out there [21:36:50] MisterE: google for html2wiki [21:37:01] MisterE: also, mast basic html is allowed in wikitext. [21:37:12] the most important bits that are not are and [21:37:24] So I can just paste this huge file into the page? [21:37:26] if i create a Article object via $page = new Atricle( $pageTitle ); what function would tell me if the page hasn't been created? [21:37:30] it's 300k of text [21:37:36] no, you don't want that [21:37:42] you also don't want that as wikitext [21:37:53] trying to parse it will likely result in a timeout [21:37:59] here's where it's coming from: http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=convert+html+to+mediawiki+mac+os+x&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 [21:38:18] oops no thats not it [21:38:19] one sec [21:38:37] get rid of the mac os stuff in your query. [21:38:41] here's where it's coming from: http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:eCTPj5dRdx0J:www.eppo.go.th/link_thaigov_old.html+EPPO+:+Complete+Royal+Thai+Government+Web+Sites+Directory&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=safari [21:38:46] converters are likely to be scripted, i.e. cross-platform [21:38:53] you may have to install perl or something though [21:38:59] I have perl [21:39:19] built-in with mac os x but I don't know much about it [21:39:28] and I'm a beginner with using terminal [21:40:04] you will very likely need to learn that [21:40:11] anyway, i'm off to bed [21:40:20] :( darn [21:40:31] 03(mod) Don't mention allowing others to contact you if $wgEnableUserEmail=false - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10158 (10carlin-public) [21:41:09] Duesentrieb: Can you spell/grammar check http://prototype.wikimedia.org/de.wikipedia.org/MediaWiki:Sitenotice for me please? It's been a while since I took German in school [21:43:29] RoanKattouw: Dies ist ein Prototyp-Wiki auf dem das Usability-Projekt seine Verbesserungen zeigt und man sie testen kann. DIES IST KEIN ECHTES WIKI! [21:43:39] RoanKattouw: Das Wiki, das Projekt. [21:43:46] Ah, so its das Wiki [21:43:51] Man I am lost with this. I have the raw html, text only version but how do I get this massive amount of info on my wiki? [21:44:08] Thanks Duesentrieb [21:44:17] someone said wikimedia can handle the html directly? [21:44:24] RoanKattouw: for no good reason, yes. though there's no real consensus. I hear "die Wiki" also. but sometimes, that's short for "die Wikipedia". [21:44:53] Yeah, I always used die Wiki before [21:44:54] MisterE: yes. no blanks at the beginning of lines though, that triggers preformatted mode. [21:45:05] MisterE: and you probably want to split the huge text up. [21:45:09] into whatever makes sense [21:45:12] chapters, or whatever [21:45:21] Hmm I see [21:45:31] so no lines starting with " " [21:45:38] yep [21:50:32] MisterE, also just a subset [21:50:37] no well I got some good progress [21:50:52] 03(NEW) New list Oversight-de-l - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19136 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (church.of.emacs.ml) [21:50:59] http://www.ajarnforum.net/wiki/index.php/Comprehensive_Thailand_Government_Web_Directory [21:51:11] what do you think Platonides ? [21:51:20] formatting is b0rked but I'm surprised [21:51:26] it's in there [21:52:42] you have mismatched tags [21:52:56] please explain if you have the time [21:53:02] I know you're off to bed [21:53:08] and it's perfectly cromulent :) [21:55:05] how the syntax should look [21:55:14] == heading == [21:55:17] === subheading === [21:55:47] mv me ~/bed [21:55:55] lol [21:56:32] kill -SIGSTOP `pidof Duesentrieb` ;) [22:01:46] rainman_: You around? [22:05:59] 03tparscal * r51610 10/trunk/phase3/skins/vector/main.css: Fixed bug in side bar menus where really long unbreakable character sequences were overlaying the page content [22:06:07] 03dale * r51611 10/branches/new-upload/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (7 files in 7 dirs): skip temporal url for timed text query if timed url not provided in src [22:12:01] 03siebrand * r51612 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (55 files): Localisation updates for core messages from translatewiki.net (2009-06-08 21:48 UTC) [22:13:29] 03(NEW) "automatically sighted" shown for IP if IP reverted content while sighter was rolling back - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19137 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (Wiki.Melancholie) [22:15:02] 03siebrand * r51613 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/aliases.txt: Follow-up to r51140: also remove special page alias localisation for BoardVote [22:19:00] 03siebrand * r51614 10/trunk/extensions/ (115 files in 102 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-06-08 21:48 UTC) [22:20:43] hi [22:21:52] I came to here from http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data_dumps#Where_to_go_for_help as I'm downloading a dump file and I'm getting an error [22:22:08] I would like to download the http://download.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20090604/enwiki-20090604-stub-meta-history.xml.gz [22:23:19] What's the error you're getting? [22:24:34] I tried using firefox on mac and linux, and explorer on windows without luck, just server error [22:24:43] trying console in linux I got [22:24:48] adrian@adrian-mini:~$ axel -va http://download.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20090604/enwiki-20090604-stub-meta-history.xml.gz [22:24:48] Initializing download: http://download.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20090604/enwiki-20090604-stub-meta-history.xml.gz [22:24:49] Opening output file enwiki-20090604-stub-meta-history.xml.gz.0 [22:24:49] Server unsupported, starting from scratch with one connection. [22:24:49] Starting download [22:24:51] Connection 0 finished [22:24:53] Downloaded 0 bytes in 0 seconds. (0.00 KB/s) [22:25:20] Works fine for me in Firefox 3.0.10 [22:27:34] 03(mod) New list Oversight-de-l - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19136 (10cbrown1023) [22:28:50] Adrian_: Works with wget for me. [22:29:05] RoanKattouw, what operating system are you using> [22:29:06] ? [22:29:10] XP [22:29:28] ok, will try [22:31:31] Is $wgSpamRegex not working? [22:32:24] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Sandbox [22:33:50] 03siebrand * r51615 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Linker.php: Move deprecated methods to the bottom of the class. [22:36:36] Subfader: those aren't in wgSpamRegex, those are on the spam blacklist [22:36:43] those are only blocked from URLs [22:37:08] there are very few phrases blocked for all text, on WMF... try something like: overflow:auto;height: [22:37:26] ok just took them cos wgSpamRegex doesn't work in my wiki anymore, no idea how long it has been this way [22:39:06] yeah it blocks. kk [22:39:47] what mw revision are you on? [22:40:25] 1.14 [22:40:54] 03dale * r51616 10/branches/new-upload/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/libAddMedia/mvFirefogg.js: fixed upload page rewrite for firefogg [22:41:27] and what does your wgSpamRegex line in LocalSettings look like? (pastebin if more than 3 lines) [22:42:46] it's this http://pastebin.com/d36650c6 [22:44:42] ok must be wrong syntax. first line only works [22:46:23] try an array instead of a single long-ass regex [22:46:36] (if 1.14 supported arrays) [22:46:40] 03(mod) Change favicon for Wiktionaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16315 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [22:47:35] hmm, maybe it didn't [22:47:36] does mediawiki support something like... [22:47:40] #(10) [22:47:41] # [22:47:58] where it would result in
    [22:47:58] ? [22:48:08] nope [22:48:12] thought not [22:48:14] :) [22:48:25] you have to use the html tags to do that [22:48:41] yeah - no big deal... [22:48:56] would be nice though :) [22:52:19] Morder: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4281 [22:54:39] 03(mod) New favicon for Wikibooks projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17049 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [22:54:45] it's a nice idea but looks like they're getting too complicated there [22:54:52]
      works fine for now :) [22:58:20] 03(mod) New favicon for Wikibooks projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17049 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [22:59:10] hmm, Joel/Duesentrieb talking about rss feed for stable releases... I think http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesLinked&feed=rss&target=Template%3AMW_stable_release_link would work for their purposes [22:59:37] the only pages linked on that template (via transclusions) are http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:MW_stable_release_link and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:MW_stable_branch_number [23:02:44] got it. this line disabled all wgSpamRegex "\<\s*a\s*href|". I copied it from here though :O http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSpamRegex [23:03:24] sofixit, is a wiki page [23:04:02] Subfader: did you copy straight from the page or from the edit view? it appears to display differently between views. [23:04:14] dunno what it shpould read correctly though. i commented it out [23:04:16] "\<\s*a\s*href|". is what I get in edit view [23:04:23] BEH! [23:04:25] :D [23:04:38] that's no good ;) [23:05:06] thanks [23:05:14] huh [23:05:15] "\<</span>\s*a\s*href|". [23:05:30] geshi fail [23:06:07] 03(mod) Change favicon for Wiktionaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16315 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [23:06:34] 03(mod) Change favicon for Wiktionaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16315 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [23:06:35] -> 
      [23:06:47] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual:$wgSpamRegex&action=history
[23:06:48] 	don eexactly that :)
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