[00:02:44] 03siebrand * r51813 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): [00:02:44] Update Special:BrokenRedirects: [00:02:44] * add a message 'parentheses' "($1)" so a parentheses enclosed list can be localised (hardcoded all over the place) [00:02:44] * put edit and delete link in parentheses together (changed messages 'brokenredirects-delete' and 'brokenredirects-edit') [00:02:45] * convert deprecated makeBrokenLinkObj() to link() [00:02:49] * update indendation [00:09:18] hi, how can i change the background color of my mediawiki [00:10:35] in [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]]: body, #globalWrapper, #content, #bodyContent {color:#ff00ff;} [00:11:35] note that this is not a small undertaking, you'll have to tweak everything with a background color to match, which includes portlets, tables, image containers, pre, special page menus, forms, and many individual messages, notices... etc... [00:15:40] hm, okay [00:15:41] thx [00:17:24] Splarka is it possible to use the http auth for login? [00:17:45] oh hey it's Splarka, question regarding the CIDR contribs gadget [00:20:08] [[MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-contribsrange.js#Diff_Links_.26.26_Popups_gadget]] [00:20:48] well [00:21:06] it used to be that &curid required &title even though it totally ignored it [00:23:04] *Splarka looks at the code [00:23:38] I looked at the popups code and it was scarily more complicated then the contribsrange one :) [00:24:02] pokle thedj for that ^_^ [00:24:15] (not as the responsible party, I mean, pokle him for changes to that) [00:24:20] hmm [00:24:32] looks like I don't include the title because I didn't wanna have to deal with it [00:25:49] ahh, also for a few thousand revs it can get quite spammy (byte wise) [00:26:08] ah [00:26:16] true, but doesn't it cutoff after 500? [00:26:39] nope, it goes on forever [00:26:44] well, not strictly true [00:26:52] it cuts off after 10,000 [00:26:57] and then asks you "are you really sure?" [00:27:01] try a /8 ^_^ [00:27:16] what's crLimit then? [00:27:24] that limit per IP? [00:27:55] per call [00:28:07] aaaaah [00:28:25] logged in bots/sysops can get 5000, but that requires real ajax calls (I use json callback) [00:28:39] and since it is 6 of one, half-dozen of the other, 500 seemed fine for all [00:29:01] I chose this insane method because of the way it sorts [00:29:08] if it sorted by date I'd do a 'next page' [00:29:20] but as it sorts by username, I made it a hollistic [00:29:52] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Splar* [00:31:38] Splarka 2178 found [00:31:39] Splark 1 found [00:31:51] you'd wanna see that Splark had one edit, while not waiting to load all 2178 of mine [00:31:57] true [00:32:00] guess I can bug popups too [00:32:08] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-contribsrange.js#Diff_Links_.26.26_Popups_gadget [00:32:17] left a summary answer there for others interested in the prob [00:32:49] if you dont include title popups seems to just treat it as an external URL and doesn't do anythin [00:32:50] *g [00:33:06] huh [00:33:40] because you can load pages with &curid, &oldid or even just &diff [00:34:14] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/?diff=296079929 [00:35:17] sup guys. [00:35:40] seems popups depends on the url having a title param [00:35:54] seems a bit sucky, heh [00:36:14] okay, lemme add it and you can sync the gadget [00:37:09] quick question, any way to embed a php file as if it was an image? I have a couple dynamically updated 'images', and would rather just embed the php file rather than change the server handling of a specific jpg to be php etc etc [00:37:13] *Splarka curses global sitenotice document.write css when dismissed, again [00:37:21] Splarka: do you have much experience with the include extension? you recommended it yesterday... [00:37:37] TheUni: none, but it gets suggested for your specific problem sometimes [00:37:46] ah, ok [00:38:05] asellus: do you use $wgAllowExternalImages ? [00:38:29] it works well, but the svn function doesn't work, wondering if anyone knew why [00:38:58] Splarka: Good question, been a while since this instance has been touched. [00:39:02] I believe that was set somewhere.. [00:39:13] I get ERROR in include.php: could not read the given src URL using 'svn cat'. looks like a permissions problem or something, but the mediawiki can run the command just fine [00:39:42] was wondering if php is jailed or locked down by default in any way to keep it from running files in /usr/bin or etc [00:39:53] *mediawiki user [00:40:01] asellus: if you do something like http://some.server/some.php it will show as an external link, but with http://some.server/some.php?dummyparameter=.jpg it should show as an image, with $wgAllowExternalImages [00:40:48] alternately, you could add a background-image in site css to a div with a specific ID, this is useful if you only have one or two requirement for off-site images [00:40:58] Ah, good idea. [00:41:25] eg: MediaWiki:Common.css -> #statsimage {background: transparent url(http://whatever) top left no-repeat;width:500px;height:500px} [00:41:32]
[00:41:54] The former works wonderfully. :] [00:52:30] 03siebrand * r51814 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (187 files): Localisation updates for core messages from translatewiki.net [00:54:18] now where was I [00:56:58] encodeURIComponent(title.replace(/ /g,'_')).replace('%2F','/').replace('%3A',':') [00:59:13] I guess that'll work [01:10:49] *Splarka tests with various names [01:22:15] *Splarka adds ucstart and ucend [01:26:02] OverlordQ: ping [01:27:23] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Splarka/contribsrange.js&diff=296086997&oldid=255605700 please test importScript('User:Splarka/contribsrange.js'); (disble the gadget) with popups (and various cidr and wildcards), and if you like, synch with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-contribsrange.js [01:59:53] is there a way to save a page with the keyboard other than shift+ctrl+s ? alternatively, is there a way to make shift+ctrl+s work in Google Chrome? every time I press it I just hear a "ding" [02:08:36] 03(NEW) Enable FlaggedRevs on de.wikiquote (sighted+quality versions) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19179 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (wiki) [02:23:06] Can Abuse Filter be used to block edits that have things like [url= and [link= (to cut down on spam), or is it better for other things to do that? [02:23:23] sure, it can check the added text for "[url=" [02:23:45] Is there a simpler way? [02:26:03] you can add "[url=" to $wgSpamRegex [02:53:25] Can anyone help me get a favicon working correctly? [02:57:07] what are you doing that is not working? [02:57:57] this is the line I added in LocalSettings.php [02:58:06] $wgFavicon = "$wgScriptPath/var/www/mediawiki/favicon.ico"; [02:58:18] yet when I view it in Firefox, the favicon is not present [02:59:06] have you tried a hard refresh? try pressing ctrl+F5 [02:59:21] yes, I've bypassed cache every time I edit the wiki [03:00:15] and it works on other browsers? [03:00:25] I've had luck changing other settings in LocalSettings.php, but this one is just not showing up [03:00:44] Your setting looks wrong. [03:00:56] Check the page source of a random wiki page and see where it's trying to find the favicon. [03:01:02] try $wgFavicon = "$wgScriptPath/favicon.ico"; [03:01:06] try $wgFavicon = "$wgScriptPath/favicon.ico"; [03:01:08] Then navigate there in your browser and see if it matches. [03:01:14] try $wgFavicon = "$wgScriptPath/favicon.ico"; [03:01:22] ok nakon [03:01:27] try $wgFavicon = "$wgScriptPath/favicon.ico"; [03:01:30] Err. [03:01:32] sorry [03:01:33] nakon: You okay? [03:01:37] :-) [03:01:44] i didn't notice that I had scrolled up [03:01:46] Annemarie you were also correct [03:01:52] Rawr. [03:01:58] It's looking in href="/mediawiki/var/www/mediawiki/favicon.ico" [03:02:00] Hahahhaa [03:03:23] Changing the line didn't fix it [03:03:53] Check the page source again? [03:03:57] Yes [03:04:01] It should be correct now [03:04:06] It shouldn't be too hard to deduce how it's loading. [03:04:13] Which browsre? [03:04:15] [03:04:15] Browser. * [03:04:18] this is in firefox [03:04:23] Did you restart Firefox? [03:04:27] No [03:04:32] Favicons are cached kinda heavily. [03:04:36] Bypassing cache is not enough? [03:04:39] I'll try that then [03:04:42] Not for favicons. [03:05:26] Great success [03:05:27] Thank you Annemarie [03:05:37] :-) [03:05:40] No problem. [03:06:48] It was baffling because didn't use a .htaccess file [03:07:13] to make the URL look neater, I mean [03:07:22] so technically the favicon was working the entire time [03:08:43] Well thanks all, I'll certainly be back soon [03:08:59] Can't wait. [03:54:45] [01:59:53] is there a way to save a page with the keyboard other than shift+ctrl+s ? alternatively, is there a way to make shift+ctrl+s work in Google Chrome? every time I press it I just hear a "ding" [03:55:01] hmm, they left, but... I'd think one could tab to the [save] button even in esoteric browsers [03:55:13] or in FF/IE you can tab to any and hit enter [04:13:40] goooooooooooood morning vietnam [04:33:11] Simetrical ... do you happen to be in the same timezone as me and up early? :D [04:36:22] He's in NY. [04:36:29] And he goes to bed ridiculously early. [04:38:08] damn ... guess i won't be fixing this today [04:46:55] maybe Tim will come around soon ... i see he just wrote on the mailing list :D [04:47:31] It's Saturday. Let the poor developers rest. [04:47:41] Bother 'em on Monday. [04:47:54] ah ... no rest for the wicked ... [04:48:31] i want to get some stuff done till friday ... going for a month of R&R [04:50:47] did you have some question? [04:51:07] told ya he'd come around [04:52:40] about those bitwise operations ... i have a cuple of hours @ work ... runnin some scripts ... and i was thinking of going trough the source and fix them ... was there a verdict on the form of those operations? [04:53:28] camel case [04:53:50] should be bitAnd() or bitwiseAnd() not bitand() [04:54:20] so, named operation for each? [04:55:56] yeah, I guess so [04:56:41] you only really need AND, OR and inversion [04:56:55] ql ... are there any more fields except log_deleted bitfields? [04:56:55] Is there a way to render .pdfs just like .svg are rendered? It would just call an external program that outputs .png. One problem i see is telling which page of the pdf to render. [04:57:27] all the bitfields are *_deleted, I think, there's a few of them [04:57:44] Does anyone know if the male name "Cas" is short for something? [04:57:57] ok ... 10x ... have a restful saturday now :D [04:58:07] Casper? [04:58:13] rev_deleted, ar_deleted, oi_deleted, fa_deleted, log_deleted [04:58:34] Hmm. [04:58:44] I don't see ar_deleted in the Toolserver's copy of the archive table. [04:58:54] I need to embed .pdf in image:thumb like this: http://iswiki.pl/w/Analiza_Matematyczna_II_egzamin_przyk%C5%82adowy [04:59:46] Annemarie: http://p.defau.lt/?cN4CgL_Ws3JMNalXcC_EhA [05:00:11] I'd guess casey or cassidy [05:00:14] Hmmm. [05:00:20] damn ... why can't they make the interface interact with my webcam to identify and focus on the window i'm looking at, so i wouldn't type while i have focus somewhere else [05:00:25] cassandra [05:00:34] I was going to write an article on the name "Cas" but I'm having a really difficult time finding references. [05:00:38] isn't cassidy and cassandra female? [05:00:47] One of en.wiki's Arbs is named "Cas Liber." [05:00:50] oh right, male [05:01:33] Splarka: Isn't Casey already short for something? It sounds like it. [05:01:45] Tim ... did you collect mediawiki as FaceBook username :D [05:02:02] Annemarie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casey#Given_name [05:02:16] Right. I know people are named it. [05:02:30] But I wonder if the origin is from another name. /me re-reads the pastebin. [05:02:38] freakolowsky: no [05:02:45] "Casey is a male given name that means brave" [05:03:31] I usually hear cassandra shortened as cass or cassy (but that is female anyways) [05:03:49] Hmm. So it remains a mystery where Cas comes from. [05:03:54] Perhaps a project for tomorrow. [05:04:46] Case? Cash? heh [05:06:13] bah [05:07:00] how come the API can do apfrom=Cas%20 but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AllPages/Cas%20 normalizes to trim it [05:07:05] i must admin i always thought "Cary Bass" was a chick based on the name till i saw pics of him at maker faire [05:08:16] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cas_Haley real name? [05:08:19] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cas_Jansen <- casper [05:08:59] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cas_Janssens <- dutch, middle name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cas_Mudde <- full name? Belgian though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cas_Walker <- Caswell (middle) [05:09:16] Hold on... [05:09:21] to what? [05:09:45] I used that stupid MWSuggest thing. [05:09:52] I didn't think there were any articles. [05:10:00] heh [05:10:04] fale [05:10:10] Why does that thing suck? [05:10:23] Or maybe it limits results. [05:10:27] Hrmph. [05:10:33] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cas_Banaszek <- Casimir. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cas_Witucki <- Also casimir [05:10:44] Oooh. [05:10:56] but those are redirects [05:11:23] but at least you brought it on topic [05:11:32] you can find things this way via the API nicely [05:11:44] but the UI sucks for trailing spaces in a prefix search [05:11:47] MWSuggest sucks. [05:12:14] it uses the API... doesn't it? or opensearch [05:12:30] btw tim, your fav bugzilla user has made a new report >.> [05:13:36] jidanni? [05:13:56] ya, its about the mediawiki ns as well [05:13:58] !b 19175 [05:13:58] --mwbot-- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19175 [05:14:28] maybe my favourite for currently active users, but my all-time favourite is definitely gangleri [05:15:11] he has no equal when it comes to incomprehensibility [05:17:22] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2075 [05:19:16] That's brilliant. [05:19:34] well his first language isn't english don't forget [05:20:05] his first language is mediawiki wikitext [05:20:10] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2095 [05:20:13] ...are any of his languages english? [05:20:25] note that the original bug title was "three closing brackets" [05:21:21] theres a bug report with the name //wiki floating around [05:22:54] moin [05:23:09] @ a shared host, using "their" php-cgi, MW installs no problem @submit on the install page. usging my own php-cgi, @ submit, I get a "500 Internal Server Error", and logs simply show "Premature end of script headers: index.php, referer: http://mydomain.com/wiki/config/index.php". [05:23:11] the php's &/or configs are clearly different -- somehow. been poring over diffs -- no luck. completely stumped. [05:23:18] anyone seen this before? [05:25:35] there any errors besides that? [05:26:04] OverlordQ: not a thing. [05:26:35] odd [05:26:37] *Splarka pokles OverlordQ per gadget (scrollback) [05:26:45] fwiw, i've installed lost of other apps/pkgs with "my" php-cgi. no problems. so it's something MW is uniquely 'sensitive' to ... [05:27:34] checking [05:27:37] @ splarka [05:28:25] *Splarka still wonders why Gangleri absolutely had to create thousands of subpages of testwiki:Template:Shared [05:28:47] <\t> Boredom? [05:28:57] *Splarka gives Tim a dose of nostaliga: http://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=5000&target=%D7%9C%D7%A2%D7%A8%D7%99+%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%94%D7%90%D7%A8%D7%98 [05:29:09] sync what now? [05:30:37] hmm maybe we should have a "tracking bug" component, since there seems to be a few [05:31:06] OverlordQ: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Splarka/contribsrange.js -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-contribsrange.js after you test it to make sure it works with popups [05:31:54] and: Imported from version 296086997 as of June 13, 2009 from [[User:Splarka/contribsrange.js]] [05:32:10] well it pulls up the right page, but it's not pulling up the right diff lol :D [05:32:39] *OverlordQ blames Popups for being wonky [05:32:58] Can you make a sortable table that has a column sorted as soon as the page loads? [05:33:17] sure [05:33:22] sort it first ^_^ [05:33:31] :/ [05:33:32] (eg manually, in the source) [05:33:42] I know what you mean [05:33:47] but it can't be done automatically? :( [05:34:58] That's really not possible though? [05:35:46] you can probably do some javascript magic to make it automatically select a certain table coloum on page load [05:36:04] ahh good point [05:36:49] ugh [05:37:16] I have to go through each node because the column does not have an id [05:37:34] hmm [05:37:55] maybe working from !class="sortable_autosort"| [05:38:16] can you set the id? [05:38:25] well, then you could only have one per page [05:38:34] you might want two tables on one page for example [05:38:39] I know [05:38:47] well for this page I don't [05:38:49] never a good idea to use an ID where there is a possibility of wanting to use it more than once per page [05:38:55] and this is definitely such a case [05:39:13] this is a private wiki and there definitely will only be one table on this page [05:39:19] anyway, setting a class like that, then having an onload script wait for sort tables to setup, then triggering that sort [05:39:47] you can't get a node from a class name though.. [05:40:25] iterate over getElementsByClassName() [05:41:02] I don't bleieve that is supported by most browsers [05:41:31] it's not [05:41:37] heh [05:41:40] doesn't need to be [05:41:48] has been a helper function part of wikibits.js forever [05:41:55] oh nice [05:41:56] :D [05:42:06] shows how much I know about mediawiki :/ [05:42:11] unless you have mediawiki 1.5 or something [05:42:14] well anyways [05:42:22] where do I want !class="sortable_autosort"| at? [05:42:44] var foo = getElementsByClassName(document,'th','sortable_autosort'); [05:42:52] hang on, too many windows open [05:42:54] nevermind I got it [05:45:35] umm [05:45:54] lol, what tags or whatever do you start javascript code in? :/ [05:46:38] *Splarka creates a test table: http://p.defau.lt/?bOkW8zNMMvLwdZa9uThZnw [05:47:19] What's a good way to figure out how many requests per second a site is serving? [05:47:37] I've got: [05:47:38] window.onLoad = function() { [05:47:38] var foo = getElementsByClassName(document,'th','sortable_autosort'); [05:47:38] ts_resortTable(foo.lastChild); [05:47:38] } [05:47:58] don't use window.onLoad [05:47:59] well window.onload [05:48:01] ok [05:48:05] hang on, writing something [05:48:07] np [05:48:14] addOnloadHook(sortableAutoSort) [05:48:14] function sortableAutoSort() { [05:48:19] is the mediawiki approved way... [05:48:26] what version are you on? [05:48:33] figured [05:48:36] most recent [05:48:37] let me check [05:49:06] 1.14 [05:49:20] well [05:49:24] I guess a new version just came out :( [05:50:21] anyways [05:50:31] how do you start javascript code, Splarka? [05:50:45] that's all I need to know and it should work [05:51:25] http://p.defau.lt/?0V2RtSLm_9HzJgJTqvb3Mw [05:51:29] okay, here is what I got so far [05:51:38] the node for each is auto[j]; [05:51:49] you just have to find the little image dealie in it and trigger it somehow now [05:52:08] getElementsByClassName(document, '*', 'sortable_autosort'); will get the td or th with that class [05:52:20] that's what I want [05:52:25] oops [05:52:35] hang on, typo [05:52:37] http://p.defau.lt/?YBWZ6md3UIDA_NASN8w_lQ [05:52:44] should be getElementsByClassName(tables[i], '*', 'sortable_autosort'); [05:52:50] then it doesn't iterate over the whole damn document [05:52:52] the th is what I want.. [05:53:03] right, but the first row can be 'td' too, so you should account for that [05:53:16] well [05:53:23] how do you start javascript code in an article? :/ [05:53:26] oh [05:53:32] edit [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] [05:53:40] just put that code there, it'll execute on every page load [05:53:46] heh, sorry [05:53:51] misunderstood ya [05:53:51] I can't put it in just this page? [05:54:29] well nevermind that's a good idea [05:54:37] nope [05:54:42] well, okay, you can, if you allow raw html [05:55:01] if you trust everyone who edits to be amazingly trustworthy (possible on a private wiki) [05:55:06] easier to use site-wide [05:55:16] well it's a private page anyways [05:55:27] but I'll go with your way [05:55:38] umm [05:55:41] how do I edit [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] :/ [05:56:19] Open the page in your browser [05:56:32] http://nameofyourwiki.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js [05:56:51] ahh [05:57:03] hmm [05:57:04] bar  ? [05:57:04] I get a 404 error [05:57:09] j/k :P [05:57:52] could trigger or clone that onclick, but... [05:58:38] damn, looks like you need that node, to switch the image [05:58:50] third iter! [05:59:30] ok it works [05:59:34] I got it! [06:01:29] hey, me too [06:01:43] though quite ugly and error checky [06:01:44] http://p.defau.lt/?i6lFg0pQwFdSPDATToe5qQ [06:01:53] http://pastebay.com/21839 [06:01:55] that should work with any number of tables on a page using the same trick [06:02:07] mine works fine [06:02:09] and with headers with multiple in the [06:02:17] ahh [06:02:29] *Splarka overdoes the error checking and redundancy, heh [06:02:57] lol [06:03:02] I also added another grab for just the first [06:03:10] er first [06:03:12] that prevents it iterating over every row [06:03:22] (might matter on big tables, dunno) [06:03:33] heh, but as long as it works [06:03:55] oh, you do it twice for ascending sort? [06:04:01] desecending is twice [06:04:08] cause the first click is ascending [06:04:17] and in this case I want it descending actually [06:04:41] you keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means [06:05:04] hmm [06:05:04] ascending meaning going from 1 to infinity [06:05:11] descending meaning going from infinity to 1 [06:05:36] ascending a - z; descendings z - a [06:05:41] descending* [06:06:08] I've seen it applied both ways, looks like internally it uses 'up' and 'down' [06:06:37] ahh [06:06:49] I love the words ascending and descending though :P [06:06:52] I mean, Z to A vertically could be called ascending, or descending, depending on your direction [06:07:07] in wikis people are used to starting from the bottom, like on Recent Changes [06:07:08] yeah it gets confusing [06:07:21] heh [06:07:30] well [06:07:32] *Splarka saves this code for when someone asks for it later [06:07:35] most recent change is from the top [06:07:37] yeah haha [06:07:54] so it's descending in terms of time that it was changed [06:07:59] right, but lets say you do 'show new changes since', the order you'd go in is from the bottom, to see the progress [06:09:06] ahh [06:09:20] well thanks very much :D [06:09:32] np, enjoy your sorted sortables [06:09:40] assorted sorted sotable tables [06:09:45] I sure will! haha [06:10:11] "assert your assorted sorted sortable tables if you're able" [06:10:12] *Splarka stops there [06:10:46] say that 5 times fast :P [06:11:17] Do you guys know how to calculate requests per second on a wiki? [06:12:33] you can do it with APC I think [06:13:01] if you have APC enabled [06:31:52] 03freakolowsky * r51815 10/trunk/phase3/ (13 files in 6 dirs): Added bitwise operations to DatabaseBase and overloaded in DatabaseOracle. [06:36:55] coffee, smoke, cpu @ 10% ... brb [06:44:04] *OverlordQ prods freakolowsky [06:44:54] *freakolowsky twitches [06:45:14] typos ;) http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/51815#c2885 [06:46:43] doh ... would SOMEONE PLEASE refractor my brain and remove my tendency for typos!!! [06:50:07] 03freakolowsky * r51816 10/trunk/phase3/includes/db/DatabaseOracle.php: typos [06:50:47] any other of my masterpieces? [06:52:26] freakolowsky: Is it so hard to run "php -l filename.php" after you make an edit? ;-) [06:52:42] why? [06:52:48] to catch typos like that [06:53:18] oh ... hmmm ... sec [06:55:25] ok ... script almost created ... will test it next time i'm spreadin' my love in form of typos :D [06:55:42] hurm, pre-commit hook? :D [06:55:51] something like that :D [06:56:13] nah, meant on the repo [06:57:30] that'd be fun [06:57:58] ooh, it could be configured to remove commit access from people that commit a change that has a typo in it [06:58:01] i'm too spoiled when it comes to stuff like that ... using IDEA for Java coding ... hmmm ... never tried it with PHP tho ... [06:58:34] chuck : HEY!!! ... that menas i'll loose commit XS in matter of seconds :S [06:59:01] that's the fun part [06:59:09] and then it can report it in IRC for ultimate shame [07:00:52] *freakolowsky does not like the altho logical but totaly freak-unfriendy content of this conversation :S [07:01:29] thoughtcrime! [07:06:03] plea not guilty by reason of insanity :S [07:06:39] hi freakolowsky [07:06:48] Room 101! [07:06:49] aloha [07:07:24] 2 much 1984? [07:07:44] lesse.. no smoking, typos give you electric shocks, everyone uses plain .txt files for databases... and you have to rewrite mediawiki in your least-favorite programming language [07:07:56] got any other fears? [07:08:53] PHP is my least favorite programming language [07:09:10] then for you Emachman, you must rewrite it in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malbolge [07:09:30] Will you pay me? [07:09:51] no smoking ... can go for about a week, electroshocks ... not afraid of those, flatfile databases ... sounds interesting actually ... rewrite mediawiki in Oberon .... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ANYTHING BUT THAT!!!! [07:10:11] Rewrite it in LOLCODE :) [07:10:25] *Emachman|zzz found a PHP parser for it [07:10:53] haha [07:11:47] Yay U'z will make dem textz wif dat, right [07:12:08] lolcode would be too easy [07:13:13] LOLOOOOLOL ... HAI WORLD code @ http://lolcode.com/ [07:13:29] k10xbye :D !!!! MUST HAVE!! [07:14:40] rewrite MW in Brainloller [07:14:58] http://esolangs.org/wiki/Brainloller [07:16:08] *OverlordQ wonders what MW would look like as a pretty picture [07:16:10] ok now THAT would be an achievement [07:20:54] no write it in brainfuck [07:21:30] OverlordQ: Thanks for that site, I find that entertaining [07:29:57] hi Splarka [07:30:07] rar [07:30:24] Emachman|zzz: yea there's some strange ones on there [07:30:54] hi Splarka Splarka Splarka [07:32:33] Hi, I'm on debian lenny up to date, and I would like to support Latex formules (). I tryied to install texlive-latex-* and all dependencies, I compiled texvc with ocml, I installed imagick with php5 support, and nothing worked ... gs installed too. I activated $wgUseLatex = true and $wgEnableUploads = true too [07:32:35] Any idea ? [07:32:56] ok boys, girls, aliens, mutants and ircbots ... i'm off ... (first Slovenian Geocacher's meet :D ) [07:33:14] freakolowsky: ooh, fun :D [07:33:35] I was just reading about that this morning, sounds so cool [07:33:52] *p858snake puts a geotracker on freakolowsky and notifies the members of the meetup [07:34:21] well ... guess what ... once i made a typo while Geocacheing ... now that was NOT FUN .... i thought my GF would decapitate me :D [07:34:43] coords came 2km off :D [07:34:48] uphill [07:35:33] anyway ... if you need a sporty-kinda-relaxed hobby ... give it a try :D [07:37:48] 03daniel * r51817 10/trunk/extensions/CategoryTree/CategoryTree.js: fixed: 18203 CategoryTree js-generated expand links always hidden; patch by RockMFR; sorry it took so long [07:38:44] 03(FIXED) CategoryTree js-generated expand links always hidden - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18203 +comment (10daniel) [07:40:10] CreatixEA: Are you getting any errors? [07:41:05] noone [07:41:32] OverlordQ: here is list of textlive* installed packages : http://creatixea.pastebin.com/dd8ead60 [07:42:19] And I'm installing textlive-latex-extra thinking there's something mediawiki needs inside [07:42:56] lol, there is no dvipng command line ... [07:43:00] Maybe that's it ;) [07:47:29] nop, that's not it ... [07:50:01] 14(INVALID) CategoryTree always start fully expanded except last level - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19071 +comment (10daniel) [07:54:55] 03(mod) Categories not being assigned to uploaded files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18370 +comment (10daniel) [07:55:01] 03(mod) Categories not being assigned to uploaded files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18370 (10daniel) [07:55:50] wtf [07:55:59] BITOR('$fieldLeft.', '.$fieldRight.')'; [07:58:11] like single "" wouldn't be enough :o [08:13:58] trying to login on bugzilla.wikimedia.org i get an error http://pastebin.com/m67e4512f [08:19:48] includes/Math.php seems to not be called (I debugged placing a die()) => No die ! [08:19:58] $wgUseTex is set to true in LocalSettings.php [08:21:33] are you editing the right LocalSettings? [08:21:49] are you using the mediawiki package or a tarball/svn from mw.org? [08:22:27] Tarball [08:22:49] what version? [08:23:06] downloaded yesterday : 1.15 [08:23:30] OK, that works : I made a mistake in LocalSettings : $wgUsetex :) [08:23:36] instead of $wgUseTex :) [08:23:51] erf, I installed packages and packages :( lol [08:24:34] did you name the variable $wgUseTex [08:24:38] or $wgUseTeX? [08:25:19] Yup I wrote $wgUseTex instead of $wgUseTeX [08:25:32] capitalize the X and try again [08:25:43] That's works well now :) [08:25:47] Thanks guys ;) [08:26:18] what are you setting up? [08:26:26] I mean I know what you are setting up, but for what [08:26:41] To make schemes :) [08:46:35] Ist there a way to hide EDITSECTION links on an article page selectively? [08:47:49] I have multiple articlepages on my wiki that are patchworks of free text and included section templates which should be edited using their associacted Forms, so the template that includes them is protected [08:48:16] e.g. http://dotawiki.de/index.php/Nevermore,_Shadow_Fiend#Necromastery [08:48:46] Such a box should be edited using the link inside the box (bottom right) instead of the edit section link [08:49:09] __NOEDITSECTION__ however disables all links in the article, which is not what I need [08:49:25] you want transcluded sections, in a template, to not be editable? [08:49:47] but regular sections in articles transcluding them to be ? [08:50:06] ==Bar== <-editable \n\n\n {{foo}} containing ==Foo== <-not editable? [08:50:14] *Nikerabbit is furious [08:50:19] use HTML sections in the templates [08:50:28]

This is not an editable section

[08:50:59] *Splarka gives Nikerabbit a fuzzy puppy [08:51:13] argh [08:51:17] this is ridiculous [08:51:51] Splarka: thanks, didn't know it's that simple =) [08:52:16] DotAWiki|Gara: usually it isn't, most people also want them removed from the TOC [08:53:20] In my case that isnt needed, since the included template is an integral part of the article [08:53:41] basically its just a subpage being included [08:53:55] which is dynamically filled through a SemanticForm [08:57:51] 03nikerabbit * r51818 10/trunk/phase3/includes/db/Database.php: [08:57:51] Follow-up to r?????: [08:57:51] PHP Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to DBError::__construct() must be [08:57:51] an instance of Database, instance of DatabaseMysql given, called in [08:57:51] /var/www/w/includes/db/Database.php on line 2736 and defined in [08:57:52] /var/www/w/includes/db/Database.php on line 2547 [08:58:25] Does anyone know of a good import script that I could use to import one wiki to another?> [09:03:22] hello [09:03:55] goodnight. *plop* [09:04:26] I have some page that are categorized, but that does not appear on the category page (using mw 1.15.0). i don't understand what could be the problem, any hints ? [09:06:01] are they categorized via template? [09:07:21] no, just adding [[Cateopry:mycategory]] in the page [09:07:35] Category* [09:10:11] is the Job Queue non-zero on Special:Statistics? [09:10:18] huh, forget to say : all pages appears correctly in the Category when user is logged in [09:10:57] job queue is 0 [09:10:58] sounds like cache then, try action=purge when logged out? [09:11:09] (on the category page) [09:11:29] that's the problem [09:11:37] thanks Splarka :) [09:11:45] rar [09:13:17] is there a way to clean cache for the whole wiki ? (maybe simply removing the content of the cache dir?) [09:15:19] what type(s) of cache are you using? [09:15:34] I think you can touch LocalSettings.php to invalidate cache [09:17:34] I've edited LocalSettings several times trying to "debug" the issue, that does not change anything [09:18:39] cache type is defined by "wgMainCacheType" right ? [09:19:28] if that is, it's set to 'CACHE_NONE' [09:20:50] hmm... [09:27:27] trashy: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/36/MediaWiki-render-flowchart.svg/661px-MediaWiki-render-flowchart.svg.png [09:28:01] if this was on a Wikimedia type setup, the culprit would be the full-page web cache (squid in WMF's case, or varnish, etc) [09:28:07] since it only affects anon users [09:28:18] so it wouldn't be a back-end page-render cache like memcache [09:28:40] (or something) [09:28:59] okay, so the problem is not MW, but a caching system up to it [09:29:43] probably... are you hosted? [09:30:30] wa have a server for our whole website, but i'm only in charge of MW maintenance [09:31:15] I'll talk about the problem to our web and sys admins, maybe they'll find what cache system they setted up and can cause this problem [09:32:45] there may be a mw solution tho (at the cost of caching)... [09:34:54] trashy: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgSquidMaxage [09:35:03] should control how long anon-views of pages are cached [09:36:14] great, I'll try to use that, many thanks for your help :) [09:36:47] rar [09:49:08] hello I have a couple of questions [09:49:37] ask them, please [09:50:41] 1) in a page like this one, http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Special:DoubleRedirects iI'd like to see a button like "fix these redirects" in order to have that first redirect page points to the real page, is that feasible? [09:50:54] so that I don't haveto do tht by hand [09:51:01] that* [09:53:30] mindrones: you can use pywikipediabot's "redirect.py broken" [09:54:41] also, at the bottom of the same page, I'd like to make Autopager work https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4925, so I'd liek to have all those "next" links working with xpath [09:55:21] siebrand: thx, I'm using mwclient indeed so I'll do that by python anyway :) didn't know about pymediawikibot thx [09:58:28] siebrand: so "redirect.py broken" just fix those pages? and that's it? [09:58:37] reading here http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Using_the_python_wikipediabot [09:59:34] it's 'redirect.py double' for double redirects, but basically, yes. [10:06:24] ah thx [10:08:10] and does anyone use autopager here? [11:59:54] 03(mod) CodeReview diff weirdness for branching revs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18283 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [11:59:55] 14(DUP) Handle no-diff scenarios - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19178 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [12:05:46] 03(mod) file thumb size doesn't respect surface area of the file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18232 (10virtueller_andy) [12:10:00] 03(mod) provide a way to specify what text/statement is supported by a block. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18231 (10virtueller_andy) [12:24:58] 03siebrand * r51819 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Skin.php: [12:24:58] * follow-up to r51568: $id should not have been made an array [12:24:58] * use linkKnown() instead of deprecated makeKnownLink() [12:39:13] 03siebrand * r51820 10/trunk/phase3/ (7 files in 4 dirs): [12:39:13] * replace deprecated makeBrokenLinkObj() by LinkHolderArray.php() [12:39:13] * replace deprecated makeKnownLink() by linkKnown() [12:39:13] * add FIXME where I was not able to. [12:39:13] Linking to r51559 for code review [12:48:33] Hi! Is there any Editor well-suited for editing wiki-sites? With typical features, such as colors/bold-ness of keywords, tab-completion etc. [12:49:07] werdna heya! [12:49:10] i got some news for us [12:50:19] werdna
something is good
will work [12:51:12] werdna: Oh man, messed up German and UTC time (my screen(1) session shows UTC), so I can't make it to c-base today [12:52:01] I have to be at the other side of Berlin at 17:00, so I'd only be able to drop in for 5 minutes or so;/ [13:04:55] werdna hmm maybe not [13:09:21] just wondering.. this guys article uses
something bold
and it works nice. i am using mediawiki and the elements come through pre-formatted. whats the go? [13:21:35] Duesentrieb: < avar> werdna: Oh man, messed up German and UTC time (my screen(1) session shows UTC), so I can't make it to c-base today [13:22:16] avar: hahaha, you suck :P [13:22:32] Duesentrieb: Thanks:) [13:31:50] hello! [13:40:06] I had this conversation in the wrong room... can anyone help my situation? [13:40:08] sonata4um: A user registered at my wiki with a username beginning with # and messed up the wiki. I plan to prevent usernames that have "#" in them. Should I also prevent names with "$" and other php variables? If so, which ones do you recommend? [13:40:09] [09:38am] flyingparchment: a) you're in the wrong channel, try #mediawiki, b) # causing a problem is nothing to do with "php variables", c) # is not a valid character in a PHP variable name anyway [13:40:53] The user registered with the name #2 [13:41:40] The name didn't appear in the userlist - I only discovered it when I banned the user's other name by IP address. [13:42:02] 03siebrand * r51821 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (Linker.php specials/SpecialUpload.php): [13:42:02] * deprecated makeMediaLink() to makeMediaLinkObj [13:42:02] * add FIXME where I was not able to replace a deprecated method [13:42:02] * add doxygen @deprecated where wfDeprecated() was present, but not the doc [13:42:02] Should conclude replacing or tagging remaining deprecated Linker::make*Link*() in core. Linking to r51559 for code review [13:42:35] Then two banned usernames appeared, and only the other valid username was linked to talk pages and such. [13:44:31] Should I just prevent names with # in them? [13:44:57] or is there perhaps a different cause to this problem... [13:49:06] anyone here? [13:51:13] i think you're confusing usernames with IP autoblocks [13:51:23] 03(NEW) Language Selector language detection does not work for Safari - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19180 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: [other]; (floeff) [13:51:29] they will show a fake username like #2, which really means an id, not an actual username [13:51:55] it's done that way so when you ban an IP, it doesn't reveal which users were using that IP, which would be a privacy problem [13:56:01] oh I see [13:56:12] thanks [13:57:17] so is there any way I can find out which other username(s) were banned? [13:58:24] 03(NEW) Transparent background for TeX formulas - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19181 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (public.wiki) [13:58:35] It's not really a privacy problem... because it's a small community. I would rather warn the other user if I knew who it was. [13:59:11] is there any way i can get mediawiki to not escapte within
 ??
[14:00:01] 	just close the pre and reopen it around the code, I guess
[14:00:52] 	i don't understand
[14:01:22] 	so... 
stuff typed here
your code
more stuff
[14:01:32] sonata4um see the strong in this: i want to do that in mediawiki to highlight lines of code http://hardtrance.biz/temp/pre-code-example.html [14:01:32] instead of nesting the tags [14:01:51] yeah that won't work with the css sonata4um [14:02:00] its also non-semantic [14:04:42] if you're just highlighting lines of code, it would still work, right? [14:05:22] can anybody help me with sphinxsearch on mediawiki, pls? [14:12:17] bye [14:16:52] !geshi | flaccid_ [14:16:52] --mwbot-- flaccid_: there are several extensions for syntax highlighting, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Syntax_highlighting - the most popular one is at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi [14:17:12] yeah sorry im not after that [14:17:41] because mediawiki escapes elements in
  i've had to use code.block { white-space: pre; display: block;} code.block strong { font-weight: bold; } and only the code element as a result.
[14:27:29] 	03aude * r51822 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/SkinTemplate.php skins/Vector.php): Do not show new section link when viewing old talk page rev
[14:37:15] 	how can i stop # being used as a list item? i want it to be normal text
[14:37:17] 	?
[14:41:50] 	flaccid_, # ?
[14:47:21] 	NicDumZ thanks y0. is that the best way yeah ?
[14:47:49] 	flaccid_, that's the way to escape wikitext
[14:48:29] 	'''this is NOT in bold''' [[Not a link]] and so on
[14:49:30] 	yeps
[14:49:51] 	i just wish it would know by default that # within code is going to be code not a bullet item
[14:50:07] 	ah, this.
[14:50:57] 	yeah im using code.block { white-space: pre; display: block;} code.block em { font-weight: bold; } because i can't do emphasis within a code block with in a pre because the elements within pre get html escaped/encoded
[14:54:02] 	Hi. For days now I try to get a wiki up where articles easily can be translated into an other language and diplay a link to each other language. What is the recommended way to do this?
[14:55:23] 	dergringo i hope someone can shed light. i've noticed that people including wikipedia generally have separate wikis for languages. i havnt seen any translations or internationalisation features in terms of translation in mediawiki. i hope someone can correct me..
[14:56:18] 	there are some extensions but they do not work as expected
[14:56:24] 	ah rightio
[14:56:40] 	i dunno translating ascii is arbitrary to begin with
[14:58:11] 	Many talented coders in here so I really don't understand what's the matter to not provide an easy solution to translate Articles.
[14:59:15] 	dergringo i've never seen a decent translator. have you ?
[14:59:49] 	translations for example in projects are usually done by people manually
[15:00:01] 	Nikerabbit: You around?
[15:00:09] 	Yes. I live in Switzerland and we are required to provide information in at least 2 of 4 languages.
[15:00:46] 	dergringo translation team
[15:01:15] 	There is a translation team but no possibility privided by the wiki. And that's the point.
[15:01:19] 	*provided
[15:01:46] 	dergringo thats why sites like wikipedia have separate instances of mediawiki
[15:02:20] 	you are basically saying there is no internationalisation support in mediwiki. that sounds right to me..
[15:02:44] 	No, that's not true; MediaWiki allows you to i18n the interface, but not the content
[15:02:52] 	oh ok
[15:02:57] 	Yes it's the content
[15:03:02] 	close enough
[15:45:17] 	03siebrand * r51823 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (6 files in 4 dirs): 
[15:45:17] 	* tweak 'edittoolbar' message
[15:45:17] 	* stylize.php, trailing whitespace removed
[16:09:42] 	03siebrand * r51824 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/ (59 files in 11 dirs): 
[16:09:42] 	* some messages tweaked (mainly capitalisation)
[16:09:42] 	* FIXME/CHECKME added for some messages
[16:09:42] 	* stylize.php, trailing whitespace removed
[17:13:28] 	03ialex * r51825 10/trunk/extensions/Widgets/ (Widgets.i18n.php Widgets.php): 
[17:13:28] 	* Added internationalisation file with extension's description and a message hardcoded in English
[17:13:28] 	* put extra namespace definition out of the extension function, otherwise it doesn't work for me (namespace protection left in the extension function)
[17:13:28] 	* coding style fixes
[17:13:59] 	03aaron * r51826 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/api/ApiReview.php: Update for ApiMain::isWriteMode() change
[17:21:42] 	03siebrand * r51827 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Add support for 4 UsabilityInitiative message groups, and put them in a meta group.
[17:22:11] 	03(mod) Review-API-Module is not working on WMF-Projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19166  (10JSchulz_4587)
[17:30:07] 	03aaron * r51828 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Removed redundant oldreviewedpages-list message
[17:31:51] 	03siebrand * r51829 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/EditToolbar.i18n.php: 
[17:31:51] 	* Update capitalisation of 'edittoolbar-section-characters'
[17:31:51] 	* Always localise link in 'edittoolbar-help-content-signaturetimestamp-result' and 'edittoolbar-help-content-signature-result'
[17:32:51] 	03siebrand * r51830 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: Add optional/ignored for Usability Initiative - Edit Toolbar
[17:32:58] 	03ialex * r51831 10/trunk/extensions/Widgets/ (Widgets.i18n.php Widgets.php compiled_templates/): 
[17:32:58] 	Follow-up r51825:
[17:32:58] 	* correct spelling for $wgExtensionMessagesFiles
[17:32:59] 	* register new right
[17:32:59] 	* add new messages for 'widgeteditor' group and 'editwidgets' right
[17:36:15] 	03siebrand * r51832 10/trunk/extensions/Widgets/Widgets.i18n.php: Message tweaks
[17:38:05] 	03siebrand * r51833 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: Add support for Widgets
[17:39:09] 	hi, is it possible to draw gantt diagramms on a mediawiki?
[17:39:14] 	with a extension
[17:42:32] 	i need to publish some timelines
[17:43:30] 	kr1s: there are extensions for integration gnuplot and gnu R
[18:02:07] 	03siebrand * r51834 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/ (MediaWikiExtensions.php mediawiki-defines.txt): Follow-up to r51827. Fix group id
[18:04:40] 	03(FIXED) SecurePoll should indicate that cookies need to be enabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18453  +comment (10rockmfr)
[18:05:01] 	Hi, I can't get MediaWiki:Common.css worked ... I already set $wgUseSiteCss = true; I refreshed, rebuildall.php, nothing work : don't have any inclusion of Common.css in the sources :(
[18:05:03] 	Any idea ?
[18:17:03] 	CreatixEA: is your wiki public ?
[18:35:49] 	hue, no
[18:35:57] 	but I can make it public for a moment :)
[18:36:10] 	There's quite no info insde at the moment
[18:36:16] 	ialex: wan't the address ?
[18:38:31] 	http://creamed.creatixea.com
[18:50:32] 	CreatixEA: the problem is with your customized skin
[18:50:47] 	Ha ?
[18:51:52] 	CreatixEA: the way to add CSS files changed in 1.14 (but not documented)
[18:52:10] 	erf, ok so I have to hack my skin ?
[18:54:28] 	CreatixEA: CSS files are added with SkinRilpoint::setupSkinUserCss() (you can see SkinMonoBook:: setupSkinUserCss()) and added to source with $this->html('csslinks'); in the template
[18:54:40] 	(if you use a SkinTemplate based skin)
[18:55:07] 	OK, going to read it
[18:56:12] 	and remove 
[18:56:32] 	class SkinRilPoint extends SkinTemplate {
[18:56:50] 	There is no implementation of setupSkinUserCss
[18:57:13] 	you need to add it
[18:57:19] 	(was introduced in 1.14)
[18:58:09] 	The same as Monobook is enough ?
[18:58:18] 	yes
[18:58:25] 	but correct the paths ;)
[19:02:21] 	erf, doesn't work ... Path corrected :(
[19:02:46] 	let me see
[19:03:25] 	http://creatixea.pastebin.com/d7744245e
[19:05:34] 	try this: http://creatixea.pastebin.com/m4c55cca6
[19:07:27] 	Coooooooool :)
[19:07:33] 	Many thanks guy ;)
[19:08:09] 	no problem :)
[19:16:03] 	Anyone with Wikipedia EN OTRS ?
[19:16:12] 	CreatixEA: one more thing: change $out->addStyle( 'rilpoint/main.css', 'screen' ); to $out->addStyle( 'rilpoint/style.css', 'screen' );
[19:16:21] 	wrong channel
[19:16:35] 	ok, thanks ialex 
[19:16:38] 	ialex Yep; worth a shot; tried the others. No worries
[19:17:39] 	CreatixEA: and completely remove this: http://creatixea.pastebin.com/me0ac6dd
[19:18:00] 	why ?
[19:18:22] 	this is handled by "$out->addStyle( 'rilpoint/style.css', 'screen' );"
[19:18:30] 	ok
[19:18:32] 	you include two times the same file
[19:18:47] 	does anyone here know anything about the usability project, more specifically where is the code of the extensions located ?
[19:19:18] 	thanks, done ;)
[19:22:08] 	03siebrand * r51835 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (TranslatePage.php scripts/fuzzy.php): 
[19:22:08] 	* makeLinkObj() -> link()
[19:22:08] 	* update command line option documentation
[19:22:23] 	GerardM-: Vector skin is in core; others are in extensions/UsabilityInitiative
[19:27:40] 	03siebrand * r51836 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/TranslatePage.php: Follow-up to r51835: actually merge to arrays.
[19:28:11] 	Ialex am I right that they do not have documentation in MediaWiki.org ?
[19:28:25] 	GerardM-: don't think so
[19:29:11] 	When I use the references from the special:version of the example wikis they fail
[19:30:57] 	i special:export'd all pages, but for some reason, the "Main Page" stayed the same (i.e. did not get overwritten)
[19:31:10] 	how do I get the main page from a backup?
[19:33:37] 	let me rephase that, after special:import, all the pages from the xml dump came in, but Main Page stayed the same.
[19:41:16] 	rook2pawn, you configure the main pate somewhere
[19:49:03] 	Thanks Ialex, they now install for me
[20:11:22] 	03siebrand * r51837 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (33 files): Localisation updates for core messages from translatewiki.net (2009-06-13 19:49 UTC)
[20:17:40] 	03siebrand * r51838 10/trunk/extensions/ (88 files in 77 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-06-13 19:49 UTC)
[20:26:21] 	hello
[20:40:23] 	so when you import Main Page from a special:export xml dump, it wont actually "import" ?
[20:40:32] 	unlike other pages?
[20:53:05] 	is there no out-of-the-box easy multilingual mediawiki?
[20:57:53] 	Sonja: i dont know, but have you seen apache's documentation source?
[20:58:07] 	where can i read that?
[20:58:20] 	i want to edit content in one or two languages and let other users make translations
[20:59:07] 	well, you can see http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/   then change your browser lanugage preferences (en/es/kr/jp/fr/de etc) and reload, and you see the diff
[20:59:40] 	basically, you have a series of file.html.de file.html.es etc and the correct one is chosen because the httpd.conf
[21:01:09] 	if i edit a page and add a link to [[eo:Pagename]]  the link doesn't work
[21:01:17] 	i have to generate the otherlanguaged-wikis ?
[21:06:42] 	hrmm... language in wiki is much more complicated than apache language support
[21:07:49] 	Sonja: fyi: http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Page_translation#Documentation
[21:11:24] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Localisation
[21:13:07] 	you can see some differing ideas http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multilingual_MediaWiki
[21:16:05] 	thanxs
[21:18:57] 	hi
[21:34:07] 	Anyone here?
[21:34:28] 	no
[21:35:58] 	I found a novel svg bug, would submit it to mediazilla, but to check if someone knows about it
[21:36:22] 	Basically, the font fudges on image resize
[21:36:29] 	On normal image, everything is fine
[21:36:51] 	On resized image, there are weird interletter spaces lik e th  is
[21:37:09] 	On my computer, rsvg resizes the image fine
[21:37:55] 	and you have configured mediawiki to use rsvg?
[21:38:19] 	No, I'm using it from command line
[21:38:24] 	On my computer
[21:38:32] 	then mediawiki is probably using imagemagick instead, which is a very bad renderer
[21:38:32] 	And the bug is present on Wikimedia's wikis
[21:38:45] 	MW doesn't render svgs itself, so it's unlikely the bug is there
[21:38:46] 	I also have imagemagick
[21:39:02] 	...or not
[21:39:20] 	Well it's not in rsvg
[21:39:28] 	well take your pick there's about a dozen open bugs WRT SVG and text conversion
[21:40:14] 	Does imagemagick support svg at all?
[21:40:27] 	What does exactly Wikimedia wikis use now?
[21:40:54] 	yes it does.  WMF uses rsvg
[21:41:35] 	OK
[21:41:45] 	Possibly the problem is with fonts it uses?
[21:42:03] 	Here are the images
[21:42:09] 	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/59/Planetary_transit_sr.svg/800px-Planetary_transit_sr.svg.png is the original size
[21:42:21] 	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/59/Planetary_transit_sr.svg/300px-Planetary_transit_sr.svg.png is the reduced size
[21:42:31] 	Notice especially the text at bottom right
[21:43:56] 	And do we know what fonts are installed on the server?
[21:51:14] <[SAP]Francis>	Hey there
[21:51:27] <[SAP]Francis>	I have a problem with my Mediawiki 1.15.0
[21:52:00] <[SAP]Francis>	Whenever I try to edit a page (therefor has the &action=edit in the URL), the script crashes and tries to make me download an index.php file.
[21:52:36] <[SAP]Francis>	Making me unable to edit pages at all
[21:52:52] 	Did you enable editing with external editors (in Special:Preferences)?
[21:53:12] <[SAP]Francis>	Oh damn, yes
[21:53:24] <[SAP]Francis>	Thanks :P
[21:54:03] 	:-)
[21:54:24] <[SAP]Francis>	Lol I feel dumb now xD
[21:54:28] 	!faq
[21:54:28] --mwbot--	Before reporting a problem or requesting assistance, please check the FAQ first. The FAQ for MediaWiki can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ
[21:54:43] 	(No idea if it's in there. If not, you should add it. :-)
[21:55:31] <[SAP]Francis>	Thanks ^^
[21:56:13] <[SAP]Francis>	Too bad I can't edit it :P
[21:57:30] 	Try now?
[21:57:30] 	03(NEW) SVG rendering bug on thumbnail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19182 major; Normal; Wikimedia: wikibugs; (smolensk)
[21:57:56] 	Nah, it's not
[21:59:08] 	03(mod) SVG rendering bug on thumbnail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19182  +comment (10overlordq)
[22:04:58] 	14(DUP) SVG rendering bug on thumbnail - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19182  +comment (10smolensk)
[22:05:01] 	03(mod) Fonts are off in rasterized SVG images on wikimedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3769  +comment (10smolensk)
[22:08:03] 	03(mod) Fonts are off in rasterized SVG images on wikimedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3769  (10smolensk)
[22:25:18] 	14(DUP) Transparent background for TeX formulas - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19181  +comment (10herd)
[22:25:20] 	03(mod) Option: Change the background color (texvc) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8  +comment (10herd)
[22:27:35] 	how do I totally delete the "deleted revisions" of a page?
[22:29:07] 	There's a maintenance script.
[22:29:10] 	Check the directory.
[22:32:00] 	found the directory, thanks
[22:42:31] *Splarka 	twitches
[22:42:42] 	rook2pawn: deleteArchivedRevisions probably (if you didn't already find it)
[22:43:11] 	huh, another person lost site css in 1.14 upgrade with custom skin, I've seen that like 10 times now
[22:44:46] 	for some reason, the deleteArchive/Old Revisions isnt deleteing anything. I've edited the mediawiki/AdminSettings.php for the db name/pw but really have no idea if the maintenance scripts ar reading them
[22:45:30] 	it said it found  707 old revisions, but I still see things like View or restore 3 deleted edits?
[23:28:27] 	03(NEW) disambiguationspage should ship with [[ ]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19183 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Templates; (jidanni)
[23:30:39] 	03(FIXED) The info on special:Version should follow the direction of the language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19170  +comment (10siebrand)
[23:30:41] 	03siebrand * r51839 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/specials/SpecialVersion.php): (bug 19170) Special:Version should follow the content language direction
[23:36:37] 	03siebrand * r51840 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/EditToolbar.i18n.php: article -> page
[23:51:19] 	hi, why i cant upload odt files?