[00:09:14] <Danwe>	does the &$parser object in the functions hook give access to the whole current article page to add something in the end?
[00:10:29] <Splarka>	do you want to add it as if it were at the end of the text of the page, or under the content area like below the catlinks?
[00:12:26] <Splarka>	I am no php programmer, but if I wanted the former, I'd find a handy dandy http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks#Page_Rendering  hook here and simply append to it. Which hook would depend on what type of text I was inserting
[00:13:05] <Danwe>	it should be part of the article like it would be than it's in the editable article text. So above the kat links
[00:13:37] <Splarka>	right, so maybe just http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/ParserBeforeStrip
[00:13:52] <Splarka>	$text = $text . $yourtext;
[00:15:11] <Danwe>	but this won't enable be to create a parser function which adds some text like {{#addoutputtoarticleend: text}}
[00:15:47] <Simetrical>	.=
[00:15:58] <Splarka>	... that seems an odd thing to do, if you're going to be adding a parser function, doesn't that mean manually editing each page to have it?
[00:16:11] <Splarka>	as in, why not just put 'text' at the end of each page
[00:16:46] <Danwe>	because it's a thing only for a few pages and very dynamic
[00:17:02] <Danwe>	it will use it in some templates
[00:17:21] <Splarka>	so you couldn't just put the template calls at the end of the page?
[00:17:57] <Danwe>	no. the user should use the template where he needs it and the template should add something at the end of the page (another template call in fact)
[00:18:18] <Danwe>	and no i can't do it with css. it's not a style thing, more a content thing
[00:18:29] <Splarka>	ahh, odd
[00:18:44] <Splarka>	dunno then, since Simetrical is the know-it-all he can help ya ^_^
[00:18:49] *Splarka 	hides behind said sim
[00:18:51] <Danwe>	very odd. I have to write a seccond plugin which prints the text from the end to the beginning of the page later :D
[00:19:19] <Splarka>	you might have to use multiple hooks, registering a parser function and then interrupting page rendering for insertion, or something
[00:20:32] <Danwe>	yes perhap that would work. but to do it this way i have to know another thing: is there a function or something where I can make a proper template call or even more MW markup and the function returns the parsed output of that function??
[00:21:01] <Danwe>	not of that function, i meant of that markup^^
[00:25:08] <Danwe>	I guess I have to initialize another parser object for that or something
[00:26:49] <Splarka>	dunno, but seems inefficient, probably easier to append the raw wikicode before expansion... 
[00:29:54] <Danwe>	but I can't add the code before because at this time my parser function wasn't called
[01:04:59] <p858snake_>	who wants to do some bugzilla work for me, looks at werdna
[01:05:23] <Sonja>	how do i pick which way is easiest to set up multiple languages ? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family
[01:06:16] <Sonja>	there's like 6 ways to do it. should i just try the 1st one  first? or 
[01:13:12] <svip>	What namespace is Template:?
[01:13:38] <charitwo>	10
[01:13:42] <OverlordQ>	Like what number? or what?
[01:13:51] <svip>	Number, yes.
[01:13:54] <charitwo>	10
[01:14:21] <svip>	I am trying to search for templates that contain two characters in their name.
[01:15:16] <svip>	Through the API.
[01:15:24] <werdna>	p858snake_: dude it's 3.15am
[01:15:38] <svip>	Unfortunately, I get no results.  I am assuming MediaWiki hasn't indexed these.
[01:16:44] <p858snake_>	werdna: its only about fourty or so bugs that need to be moved/re-Producted and re-componented >.>
[01:16:56] <OverlordQ>	be easy to do with a db query
[01:17:18] <svip>	OverlordQ: If I had DB access...
[01:18:14] <werdna>	p858snake_: why would I do that?
[01:18:25] <p858snake_>	so i don't have to
[01:18:33] <werdna>	but I do other stuff :)
[01:18:34] *OverlordQ 	doesn't think there's an easy way to search that through the API
[01:18:56] <p858snake_>	that, and i would do it, but i realllly need to do some tafe stuff
[01:19:10] <werdna>	then let somebody else do it ;)
[01:19:29] <Splarka>	svip: counting a 3-byte unicode string as one character?
[01:20:55] <p858snake_>	werdna: thing is, no one will want to do this, i know that
[01:21:08] <Sonja>	how do i pick which way is easiest to set up multiple languages ? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family there are like 6!
[01:21:22] <werdna>	p858snake_: ah well then it won't get done
[01:21:32] <werdna>	if nobody cares enough to do it themselves
[01:21:39] <werdna>	then it probably isn't very important, is it?
[01:21:56] <Splarka>	svip: which wiki?
[01:22:16] <p858snake_>	werdna: not really
[01:22:37] <p858snake_>	its just cleaning non wikibugs related bugs from the wikibugs componeant
[01:26:39] <p858snake_>	werdna: i bet your maths classes wern't like this http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs112.snc1/4821_119031680029_691045029_3334365_2379326_n.jpg >.>
[01:28:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Capital letters are always sorted first - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19197  (10Drilnoth)
[01:29:53] *Splarka 	prods svip
[01:34:36] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) SMW Comparators use sortkey instead of page name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19198 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (christopherraylamb)
[01:35:36] <Dr_Link>	What's the fastest way to knock out an entire category of pages on a MediaWiki?
[01:36:23] <werdna>	bash it in the head
[01:36:26] <Splarka>	'knock out' has multiple contrary meanings there
[01:36:37] <Splarka>	knock out = create fast != kick out
[01:37:36] <svip>	:S I am confused about how action=raw works.  When I do it in my browser it works as intended, but when I doing it through my Python script, it apparently returns the whole thing (HTML and all).
[01:38:09] <Splarka>	svip: <Splarka> svip: counting a 3-byte unicode string as one character? <Splarka> which wiki?
[01:38:39] <Splarka>	svip: also, are you accessing the same URL in both? because it depends how you access action=raw
[01:39:24] <Splarka>	compare: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Foobar&action=raw  and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar?action=raw
[01:39:42] <svip>	I only use the former.
[01:40:40] <Splarka>	which wiki are you using action=raw on? are you sending "action=raw" as POST?
[01:41:05] <svip>	I suppose it might be post.
[01:42:46] <Splarka>	hmm, seems to work with post though too
[01:43:10] <Splarka>	<form method="post" action="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Foobar"><input name="action" value="raw"><input name="ctype" value="text/css"><input type="submit"></form>
[01:44:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Lost bug report due to unknown keywords - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12133  (10p858snake)
[01:44:23] <mib_z2cp92>	hi guys, I'm trying to write a python script that can take the title of a page in russian and retrieve it from ru.wikipedia.org -- but I'm getting an error page instead of the appropriate page back (though when I go the url manually in my browser it works...) for example if we try this url:  in my browser it returns the JSON code for the britney spears page
[01:44:31] <svip>	Splarka: Ah, I forgot.  The wiki was non-readable to unlogged in users, and I forgot to login through my script.
[01:44:50] <mib_z2cp92>	but if I request it using urllib in python I get an error page
[01:44:52] <Dr_Link>	<Splarka> 'knock out' has multiple contrary meanings there
[01:44:55] <OverlordQ>	what url?
[01:44:58] *Splarka 	bites svip
[01:45:06] <Dr_Link>	I basically mean how do I wipe all articles in a category
[01:45:08] <mib_z2cp92>	http://ru.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&titles=Спирс, Бритни&rvprop=content&format=json
[01:45:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Buttons merge into a box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12879  (10p858snake)
[01:45:42] <Splarka>	mib_z2cp92: try setting a user agent that isn't the default python, also try urlencoding the titles= parameter
[01:46:02] <Splarka>	Dr_Link: have to edit them all, there might be a pywikipediabot script for that
[01:46:28] <mib_z2cp92>	I'll try both of those thanks
[01:46:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Display of lower case rho as ϱ rather than ρ on Safari Browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11663  (10p858snake)
[01:46:55] <Dr_Link>	Sparkla: Alright, thanks.
[01:47:40] <Splarka>	mib_z2cp92: I know wikimedia wikis block certain non-browser user agents by default, they like contact information and statement of purpose, dunno if python is one of them
[01:47:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) invalid HTML: invalid width attribute value - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11738  (10p858snake)
[01:47:59] <werdna>	yes, you need to uniquely identify your script with the user-agent
[01:48:10] <mib_z2cp92>	Splarka but isn't the api made for non-browser agents?
[01:48:24] <Splarka>	the api is not just for wikimedia
[01:48:36] <werdna>	mib_z2cp92: it doesn't matter, we want you to change the user-agent
[01:48:37] <OverlordQ>	what's the error page?
[01:48:56] <werdna>	if you are sending a request from python and you haven't changed the user-agent, your requests will fail
[01:49:05] <mib_z2cp92>	wedna -- got it thanks
[01:49:11] <Splarka>	note that it will work for many non-wikimedia mediawiki installs just fine
[01:49:20] <werdna>	it's blocked in squid
[01:49:22] <mib_z2cp92>	I set my 'Referer' but I'm guessing that different
[01:49:29] <werdna>	no, User-Agent
[01:49:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Search possibilities cover up search buttons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16327  (10p858snake)
[01:50:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Moving a page back does not work as described - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17228  (10p858snake)
[01:51:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) sandbox display differs from live display, page contains racial comments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10368  (10p858snake)
[01:53:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wrong URL to old image version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12981  (10p858snake)
[01:53:54] <p858snake_>	one more and i'm done for awhile
[01:54:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) On "log in" and "log out", a link to Special:Userlogin is displayed instead of a link to the page listed in the returnto= parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11339  (10p858snake)
[01:59:27] <infinisoft>	Wikia runs MediaWiki trunk right?
[01:59:51] <charitwo>	no, 1.14.0. highly customized
[02:07:55] <p858snake_>	any progress on
[02:07:58] <p858snake_>	!16553
[02:07:58] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "16553".
[02:08:01] <p858snake_>	!b 16553
[02:08:01] --mwbot--	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16553
[02:09:55] <mib_z2cp92>	does anyone know of a good technique to just strip off the wiki tags/mark up and the HTML and just get the text back?
[02:10:01] <mib_z2cp92>	(using python)
[02:10:19] <Splarka>	depends on your requirements
[02:10:35] <Splarka>	do you want the infobox stripped, do you want the contents of it?
[02:10:38] <mib_z2cp92>	hmm nevermind forget that I just realized I'm still getting the same problem I was having earlier
[02:10:42] <Splarka>	here is a good example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar
[02:10:54] <Splarka>	<div class="dablink">Not to be confused with <a href="/wiki/FUBAR" title="FUBAR">FUBAR</a>.</div>
[02:10:59] <Splarka>	<div class="dablink">For other uses, see <a href="/wiki/Foobar_%28disambiguation%29" title="Foobar (disambiguation)">Foobar (disambiguation)</a>.</div>
[02:11:47] <Splarka>	but what I find most useful, is to visualize the content of a page, like via action=render, as a set of top level block level elements: view-source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar?action=render
[02:12:25] <Splarka>	for example, this is structured as: div, div, p, p, table, script, p, h2, p, p, p, p, p.... 
[02:12:54] <Splarka>	you'll find most of the useful content inside the top level <p> blocks (as that is the default block container for wikitext when parsed if it has no other)
[02:13:21] <Splarka>	ol, ul, table, div, are usually templates/markup/dabs/lists, etc
[02:13:44] <Splarka>	blockquote, pre are often content but often not very portable
[02:13:46] <mib_z2cp92>	is it ok to scrape wiki content without the api?
[02:13:57] <Splarka>	you can get this with the API, this is just a visual example
[02:14:47] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=parse&page=foobar
[02:16:14] <Splarka>	so for kicks, try parsing the top-level dom of the pages, selectively grabbing <p> <h1> - <h6>, and maybe <pre> and <blockquote> and dumping all the rest and their contents
[02:16:37] <mib_z2cp92>	well actually
[02:16:48] <mib_z2cp92>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=parse&page=foobar&format=jsonfm
[02:16:58] <mib_z2cp92>	everything I need is under parse / text / '*'
[02:17:20] <Splarka>	<mib_z2cp92> does anyone know of a good technique to just strip off the wiki tags/mark up and the HTML and just get the text back?
[02:17:32] <Splarka>	what is in text there is exactly the same as what is in http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=parse&page=foobar
[02:17:40] <Splarka>	they are just escaped in different ways
[02:18:07] <Splarka>	in format=xmlfm (default), the html entities are escaped, &quot; &amp; &lt; &gt;, etc
[02:18:19] <Splarka>	in format=jsonfm, the quotes are \" \' escaped
[02:18:32] <Splarka>	and newlines converted to \n
[02:19:24] <mib_z2cp92>	I guess now I just have to strip off the html -- I imagine there are libraries in python that will do that
[02:20:33] <Splarka>	hmm, shouldn't this find any single character (from 1 to 4 bytes) that is valid unicode? ([\x00-\x7f]|[\xc2-\xdf][\x80-\xbf]|[\xe0-\xef][\x80-\xbf]{2}|[\xf0-\xf4][\x80-\xbf]{3})
[02:40:16] <Danwe>	is there any problem with < and > in preg_replace or with mediawiki?
[02:40:45] <Danwe>	I try to use preg_replace in ParserBeforeTidy hook but as soon as I use < or > inside it it won't work...
[02:59:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) The search function on Wikipedia won't select - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19194  (10Utahraptorostrommaysorum)
[03:05:42] <CIA-79>	03mrzman * r51858 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES maintenance/purgeOldText.inc): (bug 19160) Use DISTINCT instead of DISTINCTROW for compatibility with postgresql
[03:11:20] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) DISTINCTROW with Postgres - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19160  +comment (10mrzmanwiki)
[03:12:56] <infinisoft>	When I view a diff of a null change, the diff table layout is wierd in Google Chrome.
[03:13:50] <Annemarie>	Null edits don't add revisions, so it's fairly difficult to diff them.
[03:13:57] <Annemarie>	Are you talking about things like page protections?
[03:14:32] <infinisoft>	No, the diff is made across a revert
[03:14:40] <infinisoft>	So there was no change to the page
[03:15:00] <Annemarie>	What kind of weirdness are you having and can you take a screenshot?
[03:15:20] <infinisoft>	Yeah; right column gets scrunched up, I'll get a screenshot
[03:19:21] <CIA-79>	03dale * r51859 10/branches/new-upload/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (10 files in 7 dirs): 
[03:19:21] <CIA-79>	* stubs for transition editor
[03:19:21] <CIA-79>	* transition menu selector
[03:20:00] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Granularize RevisionDelete (RevDelete) user rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19199 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Revision deletion; (public)
[03:20:15] <infinisoft>	http://infinisoft.ath.cx/mwbug.jpg
[03:20:48] <infinisoft>	Here is the screenshot
[03:21:37] <qsheets>	infinisoft: IE 7 does that alot more often
[03:22:12] <qsheets>	but I've never seen it happen on any other browser
[03:22:15] <Annemarie>	Ahh.
[03:22:27] <Annemarie>	I believe that issue has been resolved in SVN.
[03:22:44] <Annemarie>	Safari 3 and 4 had the same problem, as I recall.
[03:23:00] <qsheets>	I know the IE7 one is a MSFT glitch though
[03:23:07] <Annemarie>	It should be fixed when (if) Wikimedia ever updates their copy of MediaWiki.
[03:23:18] <infinisoft>	Ok cool.
[03:23:35] <qsheets>	b/c when I hit refresh it magically goes away... 50% of the time
[03:24:50] <infinisoft>	I guess webkit is getting confused by the colspan in the diff table
[03:25:18] <Annemarie>	Yeah.
[03:25:21] <Annemarie>	The fix is...
[03:26:15] <qsheets>	g'night all
[03:26:39] <Annemarie>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/49688
[03:28:19] <infinisoft>	Sweet
[03:28:34] <Annemarie>	It was bothering me too. ;-)
[03:32:22] <infinisoft>	Hmm, did rollbacks always require a token to be given?
[03:32:32] <Annemarie>	Yes.
[03:32:38] <Tim-away>	ever since we discovered CSRF
[03:32:58] <Annemarie>	Morning Tim.
[03:33:15] <Tim-away>	hi
[03:34:00] <Annemarie>	Was rollback the only thing modified to avoid cross-site request forgery?
[03:34:43] <Tim-away>	heh
[03:34:55] <Tim-away>	no
[03:39:58] <infinisoft>	Ok; thanks.
[03:44:39] <infinisoft>	I was looking for maybe an old user javascript to add rollback links to recent changes, it would have to use some ajax then.
[03:45:19] <Annemarie>	Well, there are scripts that emulate JavaScript that are very old.
[03:45:30] <flyingparchment>	"emulate javascript"?
[03:45:34] <Annemarie>	Err.
[03:45:38] <Annemarie>	Emulate rollback. *
[03:45:51] <Annemarie>	"godmode" or "godmode lite" are the names, I think.
[03:46:03] <infinisoft>	I think I saw that one, it relies on a parameter given to the recent history and then does a link by link revert or something.
[03:46:18] <Annemarie>	http://sam.zoy.org/wikipedia/godmode-light.js maybe?
[03:48:20] <infinisoft>	Yeah.  Wouldn't it be less work to run an ajax to fetch the token using Query API and add a link to the RC page ^_-
[03:48:31] <Annemarie>	Prolly.
[03:48:48] <Annemarie>	Splarka is the one to ask (he's not on right now).
[03:49:59] <infinisoft>	I figured the ajax could wait for you to mouseover the rollback link before actually getting a token since it looks like you need to do a request for every recent change
[03:53:15] <infinisoft>	Hehe, I think I will have a go at this one then :D
[03:53:38] <pg1054>	I'd like to use Cavendish skin with Mediawiki.  DL, installed & update of the skin from CVS repo is easy.  Of course, I want to 're-brand' the skin to my brand.  No problem, just customize ... but,
[03:53:47] <pg1054>	Once I've customized the skin, is there a "clever way" to continue to sync/update with the latest-n-greatest from the Cavnedish repo, and NOT lose/overwrite my edits -- and NOT 'confuse' Mediawiki?
[03:53:54] <pg1054>	Is a simple, occassional 'cvs up' in my _customized_ Cavendish dir sufficient?
[04:14:40] <Splarka>	[03:48:20] <infinisoft>	Yeah.  Wouldn't it be less work to run an ajax to fetch the token using Query API and add a link to the RC page ^_-
[04:14:40] <Splarka>	[03:48:48] <Annemarie>	Splarka is the one to ask (he's not on right now).
[04:15:08] <Splarka>	it'd be less work to just ask for 'rollbacker' rights (and/or convince the shellers on said wiki to create such a group)
[04:15:38] <Splarka>	emulating rollback in javascript accurately is non-trivial, as it has to check the history and find the first revision by another user
[04:27:23] <infinisoft>	Splarka: It's on a Wikia; I'm not familiar with Wikia much though.
[04:30:44] <Splarka>	which wikia wiki?
[04:30:57] <infinisoft>	Splarka: That godmode script thing already seems to perform emulation; I basically had a request from an admin user of a wikia to add RC rollback for convenience purposes I suppose
[04:31:16] <Splarka>	oh, for someone already with rollback?
[04:31:22] <Splarka>	ahh, right, they are a few versions behind
[04:31:29] <infinisoft>	Yeah.
[04:31:31] <Splarka>	trunk has rollback on irc
[04:31:37] <Splarka>	er on rc
[04:31:38] <Splarka>	heh
[04:31:40] <infinisoft>	Ah.
[04:31:52] <infinisoft>	Well that's nice, how often does Wikia update? :p
[04:32:18] *Splarka 	can't remember if 1.14 did api rollback
[04:33:07] <infinisoft>	The query for getting the token seems to work
[04:33:12] <Splarka>	yah
[04:33:17] <Splarka>	then you could just submit that to the UI even
[04:33:29] <Splarka>	ahh, it does have action=rollback too
[04:33:38] <Splarka>	but the UI is more friendly, so yah, easy to do
[04:33:48] <Splarka>	though I'd do it on click, not on mouseover
[04:34:19] <Splarka>	[<a href="javascript:doRollback('Page Name Here');">rollback</a>]
[04:34:28] <Splarka>	drop that in for each <li> in RC
[04:34:43] <infinisoft>	Hmm.  Sweet
[04:34:53] <Splarka>	and then on doRollback, fetch the token via ajax
[04:35:29] <Splarka>	and if it returns successful, document.location to the title=Page_Name_Here&action=rollback&from=USERNAME&token=~~~3%2B%5C
[04:35:36] <Splarka>	so one-click with short delay
[04:36:32] <Splarka>	you may be tempted to do <a onclick=""> but <a href="javascript:"> is much more open intent, and user friendly for debugging, and you don't need a non-js fallback anyway for js-generated content
[04:36:42] <infinisoft>	That should work perfectly then :D
[04:36:49] *Splarka 	nods
[04:37:13] *infinisoft 	starts scripting :p
[04:37:36] <Splarka>	if(wgCanonicalSpecialPageName && wgCanonicalSpecialPageName == 'Recentchanges' && wgUserGroups && wgUserGroups.join(' ').indexOf('sysop') != -1) addOnloadHook(initRcRollback)
[04:38:25] <infinisoft>	Ok :p
[04:38:55] <Splarka>	oh, and there may be multile UL
[04:38:59] <Splarka>	http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges
[04:39:00] <Splarka>	spanning days, for example
[04:39:28] <Splarka>	so.. var ul = getElementsByClassName('ul)
[04:39:31] <Splarka>	ack
[04:39:44] <Splarka>	so.. var ul = getElementsByClassName(document,'ul','special');
[04:40:03] <Splarka>	iterate over those, iterate over ul[i].getElementsByTagName('li')
[04:40:25] <Splarka>	and ew, iterate over the .getElementsByTagName('a') for those, finding one you like dealing with, probably the diff
[04:40:38] <Splarka>	if the (diff) isn't linked it isn't rollbackable, heh
[04:40:40] <Splarka>	(or a log entry)
[04:42:06] <Splarka>	grab the title and the user's name from the later <a>, plop those into a new document.createElement('a') where the setAttribute('href','javascript:doRollback("' + encodeURIComponent(titlethingy) + '","' + encodeURIComponent(usernamethingy) + '")')
[04:42:18] <Splarka>	at least, that's how I'd do it
[04:42:21] *Splarka 	afk
[04:42:27] <infinisoft>	Thanks
[04:44:28] <infinisoft>	Yeah, some crazy DOM walking/filtering will have to go on, should be doable thoguh
[04:47:07] <Splarka>	btw: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=45918
[04:47:44] <Splarka>	plopping that revision into http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/?pathrev=45918  shows it was before 1.15 was branched, but after 1.14, so it is a 1.15 feature
[04:49:32] <garo>	You'll see that at http://wiki.conky.be/wiki/Category:Reference there are 3 pages categorized under the letter 'R' and not one of them starts with 'R', can someone explain why this happens ?
[04:51:54] <Splarka>	[[Category:Reference|Reference]]
[04:51:56] <Splarka>	at http://wiki.conky.be/conkywiki/index.php?title=Command_Line_Options&action=edit
[04:52:02] <Splarka>	the parameter in a category tag is the sortkey
[04:52:13] <Splarka>	that sorts it alphabetically as if it were 'Reference'
[04:52:30] <Splarka>	use [[Category:Reference]] if you want it correctly sorted
[04:53:10] <CIA-79>	03tstarling * r51860 10/trunk/phase3/skins/CologneBlue.php: Fix typo from r51820
[04:54:27] <garo>	Splarka: Thanks !
[04:56:39] <Splarka>	np.....
[04:59:33] <infinisoft>	I like how Chrome lets you abort JavaScripts with alert boxes
[05:00:17] <OverlordQ>	eh?
[05:06:25] <infinisoft>	If you have a script that throws more than one alert dialogue box then chrome lets you stop the script
[05:06:57] <flyingparchment>	don't all browsers do that?
[05:08:23] <infinisoft>	The one I Was using before didn't :\
[05:08:58] <p858snake_>	flyingparchment: depends if they are at the same time or one after another iirc
[05:11:48] <infinisoft>	Splarka: Awesome, I have it adding the doRollback links
[05:52:29] <infinisoft>	Ug.  I need to upgrade my test wiki.
[06:27:52] <jayvdb>	any crats around ?  I working my way through a global rename.
[06:28:46] <ialex>	on mw.org, sure!
[06:31:43] <jayvdb>	ialex: http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:John_Vandenberg&diff=1517807&oldid=1517798
[06:32:27] <Annemarie>	Eek.
[06:33:10] <ialex>	jayvdb: done
[06:35:01] <jayvdb>	ialex: ty
[06:35:56] <ialex>	Rowan: can you please stop /nick all the time?
[06:36:15] <Rowan>	ialex: Sorry. I'm actually done now, was regrouping nicks.
[06:36:20] <Rowan>	Because the old alts were dropped.
[06:36:23] <CIA-79>	03tstarling * r51861 10/trunk/extensions/ (4 files in 4 dirs): 
[06:36:23] <CIA-79>	Fixed some syntax errors:
[06:36:23] <CIA-79>	* __call can't be static
[06:36:23] <CIA-79>	* missing comma
[06:36:23] <CIA-79>	* No such thing as "abstract static"
[06:36:25] <CIA-79>	* __set can't be protected
[06:37:30] *Rowan 	should have prolly opened another connection.
[06:46:44] <CIA-79>	03ialex * r51862 10/trunk/phase3/skins/Standard.php: we have SpecialPage::getTitleFor() for that
[06:54:53] <CIA-79>	03tstarling * r51863 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Export.php: Remove $resultset->free() calls, as in live hack. The calls are unnecessary, removing probably fixes some bug.
[07:00:20] <infinisoft>	Yay, I think my RC Rollback script works :D
[07:42:56] <Nizar>	hey guys, i just did a new first time install and added a user while installing, how can i add it to the sysop or the bureaucrat group?
[07:43:32] <OverlordQ>	if it's the one you specified in the installer it already has crat and sysop
[07:43:40] <OverlordQ>	if it's a new user check [[Special:UserRights]]
[07:49:22] <CIA-79>	03siebrand * r51865 10/trunk/extensions/ (42 files in 34 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-06-15 07:42 UTC)
[07:51:27] <CIA-79>	03siebrand * r51866 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (45 files): Localisation updates for core messages from translatewiki.net (2009-06-15 07:42 UTC)
[07:53:46] <Nizar>	OverlordQ, how come i cannot see 'Create a new page' then?
[07:57:24] <CIA-79>	03dale * r51867 10/branches/new-upload/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (4 files in 2 dirs): * more stubs for transition editor
[07:58:11] <OverlordQ>	not a clue
[07:58:44] <OverlordQ>	if you pull up a nonexistant page, what does it say?
[08:04:08] <Nizar>	OverlordQ, says "This page has no text" and theres an edit option
[08:04:12] <Nizar>	i should just add them like this?
[08:04:15] <Nizar>	still work?
[08:06:05] <CIA-79>	03siebrand * r51868 10/trunk/phase3/skins/common/shared.css: Label width from 20% to 30% to further reduce label wrapping. Is was for example wrapping on Special:AllPages for "Display pages starting at:" at 'at' in FF3.
[08:13:36] <CIA-79>	03thomasv * r51869 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php: follow-up to r51788
[08:13:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SMW Comparators use sortkey instead of page name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19198  (10markus)
[08:29:36] <p858snake>	if your user account didn't get created properly during the install you can
[08:29:39] <p858snake>	!createandpromote
[08:29:39] --mwbot--	To recreate the admin user, run "php maintenance/createAndPromote.php" on the command line.
[09:15:28] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Scap to r51863 broke edit summary label - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19200 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (sco_scam)
[09:17:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Edit summary label broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19200  summary (10siebrand)
[09:20:27] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) "Multi-Category-Search" in Mediawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19201 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Categories; (daniel)
[09:24:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Edit summary label broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19200  +comment (10siebrand)
[09:24:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Edit summary label broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19200  +comment (10agarrett)
[09:26:30] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) "Multi-Category-Search" in Mediawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19201  +comment (10rainman)
[09:26:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow searching in intersections, etc. of categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5244  +comment (10rainman)
[09:32:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Search in yi: should ignore diacritics and identify ligatures - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18764  (10wiki.pedia)
[09:32:52] <rook2pawn>	is there a syntax highlighter that is self-contained, i.e. not simply a pipe to a binary highlighter?
[09:33:39] <ialex>	SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi
[09:33:43] <ialex>	(which uses GeSHi)
[09:36:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Edit summary label broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19200  +comment (10lastword)
[09:36:44] <rook2pawn>	gah, enscript's configure is for unix only
[09:37:19] <ialex>	rook2pawn: see what I said above :)
[09:41:12] <CIA-79>	03jojo * r51870 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (4 files): use hardcoded rights collectionsaveas{user|community}page.
[09:43:39] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Implement user permissions for saving books to the wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18902  +comment (10support)
[09:45:08] <CIA-79>	03rainman * r51871 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialSearch.php: Fix for r51574: did you mean.. links were broken, the original change seem to miss this one..
[09:45:38] <rook2pawn>	ialex: i just read a geshi vs enscript "Better highlighting. Flat-out kicks enscript's ass." i guess im going with geshi :)
[09:47:35] <CIA-79>	03jojo * r51872 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (Collection.body.php Collection.php README.txt): rename wgLicense{Name|URL} to wgCollectionLicnse{Name|URL}
[09:48:39] <CIA-79>	03jojo * r51873 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.templates.php: fix indentation
[09:50:04] <CIA-79>	03jojo * r51874 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.hooks.php: replace empty() with isset()
[10:00:35] <CIA-79>	03jojo * r51875 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.hooks.php: fix indentation
[10:03:33] <CIA-79>	03jojo * r51876 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.hooks.php: fix for unset var $oldid
[10:23:24] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Disclaimer link has broken URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19202 major; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (daniel)
[10:27:33] <Duesentrieb>	hm, seems like a whole bunch of UI stuff broke
[10:27:55] <Splarka>	Duesentrieb: MediaWiki:Summary went from raw html to wikicode only
[10:27:59] <Splarka>	so a lot of abuse of it has now broke
[10:28:04] <Splarka>	http://bg.wikibooks.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Summary?action=edit
[10:28:06] <Splarka>	like that, haha
[10:28:21] <Duesentrieb>	yes, i just noticed that
[10:28:28] *Splarka 	is making a list
[10:28:33] <Duesentrieb>	but the edit toolbar is also broken for me. at least on dewp
[10:28:36] <Splarka>	know any stewies with free time?
[10:29:14] <Duesentrieb>	seems to be local.
[10:29:23] <Splarka>	Dues: hmm, wfm
[10:29:40] <Splarka>	but the edit summary there is foob'd
[10:30:19] <Duesentrieb>	yes
[10:32:37] <CIA-79>	03jojo * r51877 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (Collection.hooks.php collection/popup.js): fix escaping/quoting. shorten code by using Xml::encodeJsVar() and Skin::makeVariablesScript()
[10:34:21] <Duesentrieb>	edit buttons gone :/
[10:35:01] <CIA-79>	03jojo * r51878 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.hooks.php: optimize page-in-category check
[10:36:49] <Splarka>	dues: sure it isn't a preferences prob?
[10:36:52] <Splarka>	any js errors?
[10:39:09] <rook2pawn>	How would i get http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Index-table ?
[10:39:55] <rook2pawn>	It seems to use class="prettytable" .. so would I also create Template:prettytable ?
[10:44:19] <Duesentrieb>	a class is not a tempate
[10:46:07] <CIA-79>	03jojo * r51879 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (Collection.body.php Collection.hooks.php): check result from Title::newFromText()
[10:47:50] <rook2pawn>	is there some kind of wiki page substitution when specifying <tag class= ? i just would like to know how meta Template:Index-table works
[10:53:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Disclaimer link has broken URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19202  +comment (10overlordq)
[11:11:31] <CIA-79>	03siebrand * r51880 10/trunk/phase3/includes/OutputPage.php: Follow-up to r50822. Add id="mw-returnto" to allow styling.
[11:16:40] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Edit summary label broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19200  +comment (10siebrand)
[11:24:14] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) AbuseFilter does not fail gracefully with bad regex's - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19203 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (overlordq)
[11:28:01] <CIA-79>	03siebrand * r51882 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Skin.php: (bug 19202) Follow-up to r51819: fix incorrect conversion. Put wfMsgForContent back.
[11:28:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Disclaimer link has broken URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19202  +comment (10siebrand)
[11:28:25] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Disclaimer link has broken URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19202  (10siebrand)
[11:36:36] <CIA-79>	03jojo * r51883 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (Collection.body.php Collection.i18n.php): addArticle() is a static method. check return code.
[11:40:25] <CIA-79>	03jojo * r51884 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (Collection.body.php Collection.i18n.php): use return codes in removeArticle() etc.
[11:41:11] <CIA-79>	03jojo * r51885 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: remove calls to User::invalidateCache() (deprecated by the cache invalidation hook)
[11:44:21] <CIA-79>	03jojo * r51886 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: do not use hardcoded value for pediapress. do not pretend to return something.
[11:46:29] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Special:GlobalUserRights's borked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19204 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: GroupPermissionsManager; (koneko)
[12:04:43] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Special:Undelete gives wrong links on pages with "&" in the title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19205 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Deleting; (church.of.emacs.ml)
[12:05:33] <CIA-79>	03jojo * r51887 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: use static member as cmp function. use array_merge() when sorting items.
[12:10:28] <CIA-79>	03jojo * r51888 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: check that $index is an integer. do not issue notices on empty lines when parsing collection pages.
[12:13:06] <CIA-79>	03siebrand * r51889 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialUndelete.php: (bug 19205 ) Follow-up to 50351 and 51572: no double escaping.
[12:13:31] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Special:Undelete gives wrong links on pages with "&" in the title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19205  +comment (10siebrand)
[12:21:32] <Danwe>	is there a prefered markup for plugins which create some markup for themselfes in an early parser step which is replaced and interpreted later in the parser process?
[12:22:08] <Danwe>	for example xml
[12:23:09] <CIA-79>	03jojo * r51890 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.hooks.php: typo fix
[12:23:26] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Articles created by autoeditors are not marked as autoreviewed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19206 critical; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (claymore.ws)
[12:23:36] <CIA-79>	03jojo * r51892 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: factor out line parsing function
[12:23:37] <CIA-79>	03shinjiman * r51891 10/trunk/extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Localisation updates Cantonese and Chinese for extension messages
[12:28:15] <CIA-79>	03jojo * r51893 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: use CURLOPT_TRANSFER instead of ob_*()
[12:29:08] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Bot edits not be marked automatically as sighted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19207 critical; Normal; Wikimedia: wikibugs; (danny.leinad)
[12:31:07] <RoanKattouw>	siebrand: Dunno if you knew this already, but it might be helpful to disable translation of PrefStats messages for a while as the extension is still under development
[12:32:03] <siebrand>	RoanKattouw: I read your request. For now there are only 2 messages which are fine.
[12:32:22] <RoanKattouw>	Right; in the future, however, unstable messages might be added
[12:33:13] <CIA-79>	03siebrand * r51894 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (16 files in 2 dirs): Fix double escaping issues. Related to r51559 and friends.
[12:33:15] <Splarka>	mmm, whyfor: http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translations/Returnto  doesn't work, but it pre-fills in the "Name:" box, which when simply submitted /does/ work?
[12:34:47] <ialex>	Splarka: <option value="8">MediaWiki</option>: it isn't selected
[12:35:11] <siebrand>	Splarka: something in there should probably have a default to make that work that doesn't.
[12:35:20] <siebrand>	Splarka: feel free to create a bug report in bugzillla.
[12:36:18] <Splarka>	siebrand: http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3ATranslations/Returnto&namespace=8  also doesn't work, but correctly parses the parameter out
[12:36:23] <Splarka>	meh, am lazy
[12:38:32] <CIA-79>	03jojo * r51895 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (Collection.body.php Collection.templates.php): added token to save collection form to prevent CSRF
[12:39:16] <siebrand>	Splarka: of course that does not work.
[12:39:29] <siebrand>	Splarka: "/Returnto" is not part of the page name
[12:40:06] <Splarka>	wat?
[12:40:25] <siebrand>	title=Special%3ATranslations/Returnto&namespace=8
[12:41:26] <Joozey>	Hello. I couldn't find a clear answer on this question: is one able to retrieve the pages that a user has viewed?
[12:41:40] <Joozey>	Or is it possible to write an extension for this
[12:43:00] <Splarka>	siebrand: but it correctly parse out the slashie parameter and sticks it into the Name box exactly as it needs to appear there to work, so I don't understand why it fails X_X
[12:43:36] <Danwe>	I add some < and > in my function hooks together with some xml in the page text. But how can I tell the parser that this is xml and the should not convert < to &lt; ???
[12:44:03] <siebrand>	Splarka: me neither. And I really don't care at the moment :)
[12:44:12] <Splarka>	siebrand: fair enough, <3
[12:44:45] <Splarka>	Danwe: IIRC you register it as a tag extension? maybe: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Tag_extensions
[12:45:09] <Splarka>	then it gets replaced with a strip marker during parsing and put back after, maybe
[12:46:58] <Danwe>	Splarka: I don't want to use the tags on my article pages, I'd like to add the xml as return value of a parser function
[12:47:39] <RoanKattouw>	Danwe: Then you should indicate that what you're returning is HTML, not wikitex
[12:47:42] <RoanKattouw>	Lemme look up how
[12:48:12] <RoanKattouw>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Parser_functions#Parser_interface
[12:48:33] <Danwe>	great, thanks!
[12:48:47] <CIA-79>	03nikerabbit * r51896 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/SpecialTranslations.php: Possible fix for Special%3ATranslations/Returnto&namespace=8 requested by Splarka
[12:50:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) API must be accessed through the primary script entry point error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13049  +comment (10alexsh)
[12:51:17] <siebrand>	Splarka: gosh, Nikerabbit fixed it for you :) http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translations/Returnto&namespace=8
[12:51:57] <siebrand>	Splarka: http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translations/MediaWiki:Returnto will also work, btw.
[12:52:15] *Splarka 	tries http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translate/mainpage
[12:52:22] <Splarka>	er
[12:52:31] *Splarka 	tries http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:Translations/mainpage even
[12:52:36] <Splarka>	hmm
[12:53:04] <dergringo>	Any hint why the {{{1}}} does not work? <div style="border:1px solid black; background-color:{{{1}}}; padding:2px; margin:0; font-size: 110%; font-weight:bold; text-align:center;">{{{2}}}</div>
[12:53:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Page shown as draft after being sighted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18419  (10gtisza)
[12:53:48] <Splarka>	ahh, siebrand: gotcha, needs the namespace
[12:53:55] <Splarka>	Nikerabbit: cool beans <3
[12:54:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) API must be accessed through the primary script entry point error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13049  +comment (10russblau)
[12:54:58] <Nikerabbit>	Splarka: beans?
[12:55:24] <Splarka>	"good job"
[12:57:15] <Joozey>	I would still appreciate an answer :P
[12:57:33] <Splarka>	dergringo: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12974  possibly, is # the first part of the parameter?
[12:58:00] <dergringo>	Splarka, yes. I also tried rgb() and green. all do not work.
[12:59:15] <Splarka>	Joozey: I'd use a third party server, and some JS, personally
[12:59:20] <Splarka>	like google analytics
[12:59:44] <Joozey>	Hm okay, but it's not native to mediawiki
[12:59:57] <Splarka>	not really, no, not if you wanna associate usernames with page views
[13:00:06] <Joozey>	ok, thanks
[13:00:09] <Splarka>	something like document.createElement('img)
[13:00:47] <Splarka>	er, document.createElement('img'), and assign it a .src with some JS parameters ... wgPageName wgUserName and the current JS time
[13:01:02] <Splarka>	and have it load a remote script that logs the parametrs and returns a 1x1 transparent image
[13:01:48] <CIA-79>	03jojo * r51897 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (3 files): MW coding conventions
[13:05:23] <Joozey>	And how is flash support? Is it already possible to communicate with the wiki through as3?
[13:05:35] <Danwe>	should I use American English or or British English for parser function names o.O ??
[13:05:41] <Joozey>	(perhaps it's like "duh, of course", but you never know :P)
[13:06:44] <CIA-79>	03nikerabbit * r51898 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/ComplexMessages.php: Quick fix for duplicated magic words export
[13:09:04] <Splarka>	dergringo: WFM
[13:09:16] <dergringo>	Splarka, ?
[13:09:49] <Splarka>	http://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Cat
[13:09:49] <dergringo>	What does that mean?
[13:09:55] <Splarka>	"works for me"
[13:10:19] <Splarka>	<div style="border:1px solid black; background-color:#00aa00; padding:2px; margin:0; font-size: 110%; font-weight:bold; text-align:center;">foo</div>
[13:10:26] <dergringo>	hmmm
[13:15:25] <CIA-79>	03siebrand * r51899 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (14 files): 
[13:15:25] <CIA-79>	Update magic words:
[13:15:25] <CIA-79>	* remove duplicates
[13:15:25] <CIA-79>	* note consistently
[13:17:05] <wikibugs>	03(CLOSED) javascript error while playing clip in IE6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19038  (10eran.kuziel)
[13:20:53] <CIA-79>	03nikerabbit * r51900 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ImagePage.php: Fix regression probably from r50975 - link was not parsed
[13:21:21] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Disable 'missingsummary' feature on dewiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19208 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (church.of.emacs.ml)
[13:21:32] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) clip does not play with native engine and with Java engine - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19124  +comment (10eran.kuziel)
[13:21:45] <omnivibe>	I'm getting an "unable to fork" error when trying to create thumbnails
[13:21:48] <omnivibe>	any suggestions?
[13:22:04] <omnivibe>	i.e. in the apache log-  exec() [<a href='function.exec'>function.exec</a>]: Unable to fork ['/home/cojs/publi
[13:22:04] <omnivibe>	c_html/cojswiki/bin/ulimit4.sh' 30 102400 102400 ''\\''/usr/bin/convert'\\''
[13:25:14] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Capitalisation of tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19209 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (servien)
[13:29:21] <CIA-79>	03tstarling * r51901 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesMr.php: Removed empty-string magic word synonyms, were probably breaking the wiki
[13:29:59] <wikibugs>	03(CLOSED) Audio and video are not in synch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18929  (10eran.kuziel)
[13:31:29] <CIA-79>	03nikerabbit * r51902 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/ComplexMessages.php: Check for empty (=== '') elements too
[13:31:43] <HeimdallAustria>	i'd like to add a "onclick" attribute to every text-link in my mediawiki... any suggestions how to do this ?
[13:34:50] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) using Java engine - scrubber does not move in progress bar when clip is playing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19123  (10eran.kuziel)
[13:36:22] <CIA-79>	03nikerabbit * r51903 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesHe.php MessagesKo.php MessagesMl.php MessagesQu.php): Removed empty elements from magic words
[13:37:24] <Splarka>	HeimdallAustria: lazy way is to add site js
[13:37:50] <Nikerabbit>	Splarka: outstanding issues?
[13:37:57] <Splarka>	like this to MediaWiki:Common.js http://p.defau.lt/?bRh8l97ykSS0buRpzpCyEw
[13:38:25] <Splarka>	Nikerabbit: http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=MediaWiki:Returnto/km&action=history  maybe
[13:39:04] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) in FF 3.5b4 timer shows full time of original clip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19030  (10eran.kuziel)
[13:39:16] <Splarka>	other than that, all I can suggest are to have returnto behave normally, and temporarily revert Summary to allow raw html until the js and crap can be migrated properly
[13:39:25] <Nikerabbit>	Splarka: http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translations&message=MediaWiki:Returnto looks good
[13:39:47] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) "waiting for video" label doesn't appear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19023  normal->low (10eran.kuziel)
[13:39:48] <Splarka>	Nikerabbit: yes, km was the only one in core that wasn't plain text, sie just fixed it
[13:40:07] <Nikerabbit>	Splarka: well, it will be broken either way, we cannot allow both at the same time
[13:40:37] <Splarka>	k, so if summarytext is to remain broken, convince tim or a steward to fix them ^_^
[13:40:59] <Nikerabbit>	I'm not saying that
[13:41:06] <Splarka>	er, lemme rephrase
[13:41:24] <Splarka>	if summarytext is to stay as regular wikicode and not allow raw html: (I've spammed the list a few times, sorry) http://p.defau.lt/?dXjZXN0z9GCYl_55L85D2Q
[13:41:43] <Splarka>	if returnto is to remain as plain text: http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Returnto  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Returnto  http://es.wikiquote.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Returnto  http://mi.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Returnto  http://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Returnto  http://mt.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Returnto
[13:41:54] <Splarka>	some of these were already fixed, but I am so sleepy...
[13:42:01] <OverlordQ>	There's another one
[13:42:11] <OverlordQ>	the cancel link is plain text instead of a link :P
[13:42:15] <Splarka>	heh
[13:42:16] <wikibugs>	03(CLOSED) seek does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18895  (10eran.kuziel)
[13:42:17] <Nikerabbit>	we missed the announce changes part
[13:42:32] <OverlordQ>	Heh
[13:42:34] <Nikerabbit>	OverlordQ: in defaults or when customised?
[13:42:36] <Splarka>	I am sure more will turn up over the next day or so
[13:42:44] <wikibugs>	03(CLOSED) Download function doesn't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19029  (10eran.kuziel)
[13:43:02] <OverlordQ>	Nikerabbit: Defaults
[13:43:03] <Splarka>	Nikerabbit: anyway, you might wanna commit the change to /km (per the actual question rather than per my ranting)
[13:43:20] <Nikerabbit>	so, I'm trying to heave the executive decision (either to revert it for all, revert it and do it again with announce, ???) to someone else
[13:43:44] <Splarka>	fair enough
[13:43:51] <Splarka>	it is a nasty quagmire
[13:44:15] <Splarka>	I just wanted it to not look horrible, most easily by deleting all messages that have <a or <script in them on WMF and letting each project "sort it out"
[13:44:26] <Nikerabbit>	the outstanding issue I see is the target=_blank thing on editsummary
[13:44:51] <Nikerabbit>	those who have <script> etc should have been using editsummary message for a long time now
[13:44:52] *Splarka 	really really hates target abuse
[13:44:58] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) in all browsers with java/vlc engine - no buffering progress is shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19210 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: MetaVidWiki; (eran.kuziel)
[13:45:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on Hungarian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15568  (10gtisza)
[13:45:28] <Nikerabbit>	Splarka: I can understand if browsers suck and throw away changes... on the other hand isn't one help link enough?
[13:45:36] <Splarka>	I have a[target] {border:1px dashed #ff00ff !important}  in my userContent so I never click them
[13:45:53] <Nikerabbit>	:o
[13:45:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) in all browsers with java/vlc engine - no buffering progress is shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19210  15enhancement->major (10eran.kuziel)
[13:46:00] <Splarka>	(can copy/paste or drag/drop)
[13:46:33] *Nikerabbit 	hasn't eaten anything yet today
[13:46:41] *Splarka 	hasn't slept yet today!
[13:46:53] *Splarka 	offers Nikerabbit a maple donut and cup of coffee in trade for a pillow
[13:47:27] <wikibugs>	03(CLOSED) seek does not work in Safari and Firefox browsers using Java engine - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18983  (10eran.kuziel)
[13:47:47] <Nikerabbit>	should I do tuna pasta or french fries with fish sticks or something else...
[13:47:48] *OverlordQ 	wonders if he should bugzilla this or just say what's wrong
[13:49:45] <Nikerabbit>	OverlordQ: any other issues found yet?
[13:49:46] <carl-m>	RoanKattouw: r50041 seems to have gone live recently
[13:50:03] <OverlordQ>	no, roan is fixing the cancel link I guess
[13:50:13] <carl-m>	apparently it changed the XML enough to break my code
[13:50:18] <CIA-79>	03catrope * r51904 10/trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: Fix up r51559: Linker::link() expects Title objects, not strings
[13:50:19] <RoanKattouw>	Exactly what broke?
[13:50:27] <Splarka>	carl-m: so did ~3000 other revisions, heh
[13:50:30] <RoanKattouw>	I'm sorry, there's like three months between this scap and the last
[13:50:32] <aghisla>	hello all, I have a problem with uploaded image revision. The link still points to old revision http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/File:Schermata-Kriging_Module.png is it a matter of time or I have done something wrong?
[13:50:51] <carl-m>	RoanKattouw: the xml:space being added to page content requests
[13:51:00] <RoanKattouw>	Ah, that
[13:51:04] <RoanKattouw>	That shouldn't break your code
[13:51:31] <carl-m>	apparently it was the switch from only having "content" as the returned info, vs having both "content" and "xml:space"
[13:52:04] <RoanKattouw>	Yeah, some XML parsers need that so they don't mess up whitespace in the text
[13:52:20] <Nikerabbit>	aghisla: purged your cache? seems to work for me
[13:53:05] <Nikerabbit>	aghisla: I guess you mean the cursor should not show up in the image when clicking it?
[13:53:21] <carl-m>	I saw that in your commit log. apparently, with the previous xml, my parser was leaving the content in query->pages->page->revisions->rev and now it is leaving it in pages->page->revisions->rev->content
[13:53:31] <aghisla>	Nikerabbit: thanks for quick response - yes it is, and works fine now!
[13:53:33] <carl-m>	this is with rvprop set only to content
[13:54:29] <carl-m>	ait was easy to fix; i wanted to ask you if you could drop a note to the mailing list for future changes that add fields to result sets
[13:55:05] <RoanKattouw>	Hmm, the XML doesn't include the 'content' field
[13:55:16] <RoanKattouw>	Will do
[13:55:26] <RoanKattouw>	This seems more like your XML parser is slightly broken though
[13:56:37] <carl-m>	looking at the xml now - that is bizarre
[13:56:44] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) PDF rendering does not accept inline formatting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19156  +comment (10support)
[13:59:08] <carl-m>	RoanKattouw: yes, it must be my xml parser; the addition of the xml:space element is changing the way that the xml is put into the data structure
[13:59:21] <carl-m>	and it happens that it uses the word "content" on its own, which I didn't realize
[14:00:02] <carl-m>	I am not happy with this parser, at some point I will have to write my own or something
[14:01:11] <RoanKattouw>	It gets worse, though. Luca de Alfaro and his team used an XML parser which, in the absence of xml:space="preserve", folded all whitespace
[14:01:20] <RoanKattouw>	Which is the reason I put this stuff in in the first place
[14:01:54] <Nikerabbit>	RoanKattouw: xml parser is allowed to do that?
[14:02:04] <RoanKattouw>	According to spec, yes
[14:02:11] <RoanKattouw>	Most don't, however
[14:02:26] <Nikerabbit>	and that is allowed too? what does the spec say then?
[14:03:00] <RoanKattouw>	I don't know
[14:05:22] <RoanKattouw>	I looked it up, and it says that xml:space can be either "default" or "preserve"; the former means that the parser can do its default thing, whereas the latter explicitly says that whitespace must be left alone
[14:06:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on Hungarian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15568  (10gtisza)
[14:08:18] <carl-m>	RoanKattouw: it looks like the problem I was having is a "feature" of XML::Simple that I have to either work around or disable
[14:08:35] <RoanKattouw>	Right
[14:08:57] <carl-m>	if anyone ever asks about XML::Simple they should be warned to keep far away from it
[14:09:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:GlobalUserRights's borked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19204  +comment (10skizzerz)
[14:09:03] <OverlordQ>	XML::LibXML is so much nicer :)
[14:09:38] <carl-m>	OverlordQ: what I want it something that takes the XML and puts it into a data structure that mirrors the XML structure
[14:09:54] <CIA-79>	03siebrand * r51905 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialWhatlinkshere.php: Follow-up to r51894: remove unused $targetText
[14:10:11] <carl-m>	in other words I want to forget, as quickly as possible, that the data came in via xml
[14:14:27] <OverlordQ>	XML::Dumper?
[14:16:12] <carl-m>	will look at it. the cpan page looks like that is more of a serialization libary, and won't work with arbitrary xml
[14:16:33] <carl-m>	the problem in general is that <foo bar="baz">bing</foo> does not translate directly to a tree
[14:17:02] <carl-m>	attributes and content have to be treated separately
[14:17:51] <OverlordQ>	*shrug* LibXML isn't too bad if you know what you're looking for
[14:19:03] <carl-m>	sure; I use C parsers for database dumps. But when I was writing a library for my bots I tried to separate the I/O from the code to handle teh actual data
[14:19:45] <carl-m>	the problem with XML::Simple is that it tries to prune things that it thinks are not important; then when something else is added, the pruning can't be done, so the structure changes more than it should
[14:20:34] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Loop at the end of category on "next" link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19211 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Categories; (abxabx)
[14:21:01] <OverlordQ>	yea, LibXML is just $doc = $blah->parse($xml), then you can $doc->getElementsByTagName('revisions');, then just loop over them 
[14:21:10] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) with Java engine - clip does not play when clicking on the video area play button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19125  (10eran.kuziel)
[14:21:39] <carl-m>	right; I want to loop over them and throw them all into an array. which is what XML::Simple is meant to do 
[14:22:09] <jcw>	So what's your problem with XML::Simple again?
[14:23:22] <Danwe>	how can I call a parser function from php without having a parser object?
[14:24:17] <RoanKattouw>	You can't, and you shouldn't need to
[14:24:25] <RoanKattouw>	What are you trying to do?
[14:24:31] <carl-m>	this particular problem (there are other problems with utf8, perl, and xml) is that the xml it generates for <foo>bing</foo> is very different from the xml it generates for <foo att="bar">bing</foo>
[14:25:03] <Danwe>	I try to call a function inside my plugin from a hook
[14:25:07] <carl-m>	not xml - perl data structure it generates from the xml
[14:25:18] <Danwe>	but I think I should write a common function which is called by the parser function
[14:25:42] <Danwe>	is there a documentation about the parser object which shows what I can do with it?
[14:25:54] <Danwe>	With examples perhaps
[14:25:57] <Nikerabbit>	you can't do much with it without causing bugs :O
[14:26:01] <RoanKattouw>	!class Parser | Danwe 
[14:26:01] --mwbot--	Danwe: See http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/classParser.html
[14:26:20] <RoanKattouw>	But Nike is right, be very careful and don't be surprised when stuff blows up
[14:26:48] <Danwe>	Can I somehow ask what's the current template the parser is parsing or if it's the article page itself?
[14:27:46] <Danwe>	BeforeParserFetchTemplateAndtitle at least gives me the info when the parser is going inside a template but not when the parser jumping back out of the template
[14:34:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on Hungarian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15568  (10gtisza)
[14:40:11] <Danwe>	who do so many mw pages don't run with opera like this svn. stuff
[14:41:22] <brimstone>	is there a setting to make mediawiki redirect to the login page if a guest visits a members only wiki?
[14:43:03] <CIA-79>	03huji * r51906 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: Localisation updates: Persian translation for vector- series of messages
[14:44:42] <CIA-79>	03tstarling * r51907 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialRecentchanges.php: Fix incorrect index usage. Without a condition on the namespace, the use of new_name_timestamp causes a full table scan. This was the primary cause of the recent post-scap downtime.
[14:52:29] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Grant right "abusefilter-log-details" to autoconfirmed users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19212 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (cn.chenminqi)
[14:52:34] <tty1>	how do i make it so mediawiki only lets registered users edit pages?
[14:52:44] <RoanKattouw>	!prevacc | tty1 
[14:52:44] --mwbot--	tty1: For information on preventing access to your wiki, please see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access>.
[14:52:55] <tty1>	RoanKattouw: thanks a lot
[14:55:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Grant right "abusefilter-log-details" to autoconfirmed users @ zhwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19212  summary (10xu.jimmy.wrk)
[14:57:14] <tty1>	RoanKattouw: i did what it said then i tried logging out and create a new page and it let me create it fine... any ideas?
[14:58:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Grant right "abusefilter-log-details" to autoconfirmed users @ zhwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19212  -i18n +shell (10shinjiman)
[14:59:16] <tty1>	RoanKattouw_: that didnt work... do i need to do something special to reload the config/LocalSettings.php?
[14:59:29] <tty1>	if there is even a way to reload it, usually you dont have to for php stuff
[15:00:12] <RoanKattouw>	tty1: It shouldn't be in config/ , but in the directory above it
[15:00:25] <tty1>	ohh maybe that was the example i kept let me look
[15:00:56] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Upgrade ogghandler to current version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19169  +comment (10gmaxwell)
[15:01:48] <tty1>	RoanKattouw: ok working now, thanks
[15:05:32] <CIA-79>	03kim * r51908 10/trunk/testing/installer/ (83 files in 41 dirs): 
[15:05:33] <CIA-79>	*Remove register_globals vulnerability
[15:05:33] <CIA-79>	*Note that this particular solution breaks all old installs. (So be sure to reinstall any particular instance from scratch. If you have already been scripting, this shouldn't be a huge deal)
[15:07:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) AbuseFilter does not fail gracefully with bad regex's - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19203  +comment (10rohde)
[15:09:44] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Self-link feature should use only CSS, not HTML strong tag, for greater flexibility. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19213 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (harryalffa)
[15:10:21] <Nikerabbit>	no search guy here?
[15:12:28] <kim_>	Hmmm, who actually has rights to give people svn access rights?
[15:12:32] *kim_ 	scratches head
[15:13:25] <RoanKattouw>	Brion and Tim
[15:14:11] <Nikerabbit>	no demon here?
[15:15:12] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Bugs on watchlist connected with FlaggedRevs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19214 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: wikibugs; (danny.leinad)
[15:16:39] <CIA-79>	03kim * r51909 10/trunk/testing/installer/installer_util.py: compatibility break warning in header
[15:17:06] <kim_>	RoanKattouw, and Tim is Busy, and brion is also... busy
[15:17:07] <kim_>	great
[15:17:13] <kim_>	diff&patch ftw...
[15:17:34] <RoanKattouw>	There is a page on mediawiki.org for filing requests for commit access
[15:17:51] <kim_>	already done in the case of the person I'd like to give rights to
[15:17:53] <CIA-79>	03nikerabbit * r51910 10/trunk/phase3/includes/parser/Parser.php: Regression in r51797, anon signature links where prefixed with contributions/ because default value changed from '' to null
[15:18:09] <kim_>	I could also read the git manual and do something along those lines, I guess...
[15:18:17] <kim_>	But it'd be nice and all
[15:18:31] <RoanKattouw>	GerardM I assume?
[15:18:35] *kim_ 	looks at nikerabbit.
[15:18:55] <kim_>	RoanKattouw, yup, he always asks me to do his patches... argh!
[15:19:46] *kim_ 	waves to Duesentrieb 
[15:20:00] <Duesentrieb>	hey kim
[15:20:30] <Nikerabbit>	kim_: what?
[15:21:18] <kim_>	Nikerabbit, recently someone fingered you as starting to submit stuff to core ... Just interesting to notice ;-)
[15:22:09] <Nikerabbit>	fingered me as starting to submit? me-not-parse :(
[15:22:51] <kim_>	Nevermind then
[15:23:10] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: can you check if there any others?
[15:23:19] <Nikerabbit>	kim_: can you reword that?
[15:24:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Self-link feature should use only CSS, not HTML strong tag, for greater flexibility and encourage en.Wikipedia to use the damn feature! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19213  summary; +comment (10harryalffa)
[15:24:45] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Not loading CR localizations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19215 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (innocentkiller)
[15:24:55] <^demon>	nikerabbit: i just joined, whats up?
[15:25:03] <Nikerabbit>	see my last commit ^^
[15:25:51] <^demon>	im not following, ive been offline all weekend.
[15:25:57] <kim_>	^demon, r51910, regression, apparently.
[15:26:21] <chuck>	kim_: host installer on github and give GerardM instant access to the repo! :D
[15:26:27] <chuck>	or bitbucket if you like hg...
[15:26:59] <^demon>	im not sure what 51910 has to do with 51797
[15:27:01] <Nikerabbit>	Duesentrieb: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18637 is assigned to you... is that correct?
[15:27:16] <kim_>	chuck, We already have it on github, thanks to you, so that's exactly what I was thinking!
[15:27:24] <kim_>	now I still need to learn git :-P
[15:27:36] <kim_>	(yeah yeah yeah, I'm an old geezer, so sue me...)
[15:27:43] <kim_>	(no wait, skip that last part :-P )
[15:28:02] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: are there any other changes to user::getOption?
[15:28:21] <Nikerabbit>	or did it get a changed default value?
[15:28:22] <Duesentrieb>	Nikerabbit: i'm the default for the Gadgets extension, i think. It's invalid, i'll close it.
[15:28:28] <chuck>	it's really similar to SVN, the difference is that you have a complete local copy of the entire repository and its history because git is decentralised
[15:28:43] <chuck>	so, after making commits, you just have to run "git push" to push them back to github so others can see and use them
[15:28:45] <Nikerabbit>	Duesentrieb: invalid? or fixed?
[15:28:53] <^demon>	nikerabbit: i didnt do anything with user::getOption. i was working with Maintenance::getOption() in r51797
[15:28:58] <dergringo>	mmm I don't get it. Why does the following do not get parsed? <includeonly>{{#ifexist: {{#if: {{{2|}}} | {{{2}}} | {{#if: {{NAMESPACE}} | {{NAMESPACE}}:}}{{BASEPAGENAME}}}}/{{{1}}} | &nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;<span lang="{{{1}}}">{{#if: {{{2|}}}|[[{{{2}}}/{{{1}}}|{{#language:{{{1}}}}}]]| [[:{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/{{{1}}}|{{#language:{{{1}}}}}]]}}</span>|<span></span>}}</includeonly>
[15:29:16] <^demon>	dergringo: use a pastebin
[15:29:19] <dergringo>	it get's displayed in plaintext
[15:29:23] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: oh 'hit
[15:29:30] <dergringo>	^demon, ok
[15:29:50] <^demon>	nikerabbit: sorry to disappoint ;-)
[15:30:36] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Recent software changes broke the Abuse Filter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19216 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (rohde)
[15:30:53] <dergringo>	http://pastebin.com/d4289f055
[15:31:16] <dergringo>	the content of Languages/lang gets displayed instead of rendered/interpreted
[15:32:17] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Gadgets with names containing non-ASCII characters are not displayed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18637  +comment (10daniel)
[15:39:03] <tomb123>	Hi - I've been searching for a way to link to local files on my company's intranet
[15:39:33] <Duesentrieb>	!fileurl
[15:39:33] --mwbot--	To allow local file:///xxx links, use $wgUrlProtocols[] = "file:"; See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUrlProtocols for more information. Beware that several browsers do not allow file urls on pages loaded via http. Also note that most browsers do not support "remote file" urls like file://server/share
[15:39:50] <tomb123>	thanks very much
[15:40:28] <Duesentrieb>	tomb123: in essence, it means that mediawiki has no problem with it, but browsers don't really like it.
[15:41:10] <tomb123>	yup, makes sense
[15:46:31] <tomb123>	Ok, great - IE now accepts [file:///z:/Tom.Blomfield/p45.jpg], and show the JPG. Firefox, however, won't display it. I guess this is part of some browsers not really liking it. One question, though - when I paste file:///z:/Tom.Blomfield/p45.jpg into Firefox's address bar, it loads the picture fine. Is it just an issue with links to local files?
[15:46:57] <flyingparchment>	yes
[15:47:04] <flyingparchment>	you can enable that feature in some browsers, but it creates security problems
[15:47:25] <Nikerabbit>	like, data leaking?
[15:47:45] <tomb123>	Ok - firefox has just disabled links to local files, it's not a problem accessing or rendering the file
[15:47:47] <OverlordQ>	crashing your computer
[15:48:05] <OverlordQ>	ie: old con\con bug in 95/98 :P
[15:48:46] <tomb123>	Fair enough, it all seems pretty clear
[15:48:50] <tomb123>	thanks very much for your help guys
[15:51:51] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) New magic words: {{USERLANGUAGE}} and {{USERVARIANT}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19217 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (PhiLiP.NPC)
[15:54:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New magic words: {{USERLANGUAGE}} and {{USERVARIANT}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19217  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[15:54:40] <freakolowsky>	elo
[15:55:09] <freakolowsky>	anyone knows if there exists an extension that would 
[15:55:15] <freakolowsky>	oops
[15:55:36] <^demon>	extension that would oops?
[15:56:54] <Nikerabbit>	use linux... you don't need an extension to it
[15:57:34] <freakolowsky>	welll no ... one that could be used as a customer support interface ... a simple one .... like a table of unaswered questions, form to enter questions with some categories and a file attaching options and an admin interface to anwser them ... like a very simple ticketing sys
[15:57:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New magic words: {{USERLANGUAGE}} and {{USERVARIANT}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19217  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[15:57:37] <OverlordQ>	and if you dont like oops, it can oom occasionally too
[15:58:30] <Nikerabbit>	freakolowsky: so why don't you use a ticketing system? :o
[15:58:36] <^demon>	freakolowsky: dont believe there is such an extension.
[15:58:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New magic words: {{USERLANGUAGE}} and {{USERVARIANT}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19217  (10PhiLiP.NPC)
[15:59:02] <freakolowsky>	Nikerabbit ... embedded into MW is the customers wish
[15:59:20] <^demon>	nikerabbit: his reply doesnt make sense.
[15:59:39] <^demon>	freakolowsky: {{sowriteit}}
[16:00:04] <Skizzerz>	meh, just <iframe> a ticketing system into a special page :D
[16:00:14] <Nikerabbit>	freakolowsky: and customer is always correct :D
[16:00:32] <Nikerabbit>	freakolowsky: use the rt extension?
[16:00:36] <freakolowsky>	^demon sleep 3d; ln /dev/freak /sys/vacation
[16:00:58] <Nikerabbit>	ln -s
[16:01:18] <freakolowsky>	nah ... -s would mean i will be home watching pics of it :S
[16:03:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New magic words: {{USERLANGUAGE}} and {{USERVARIANT}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19217  (10PhiLiP.NPC)
[16:04:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New magic words: {{USERLANGUAGE}} and {{USERVARIANT}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19217  (10PhiLiP.NPC)
[16:05:14] <freakolowsky>	where could i see an example of RT?
[16:05:42] <Nikerabbit>	ugga
[16:05:52] <Nikerabbit>	dunno where there is open one
[16:05:56] <Nikerabbit>	it's quite crappy though
[16:06:02] <Nikerabbit>	but if the ustomer wants...
[16:07:13] <freakolowsky>	well the concept is simple ... so making it would be like a klax, but as i said ... of to drinking cocktails out of coco nuts on an asian beach
[16:12:24] <riot>	hello
[16:14:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) AbuseFilter does not fail gracefully with bad regex's - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19203  (10overlordq)
[16:14:40] <dergringo>	Hmm I am looking for a way to add Article Aliases. f.e. having /ABC point to /XYZ/de
[16:14:44] <dergringo>	any hint?
[16:14:46] <CIA-79>	03kim * r51911 10/trunk/testing/installer/installfiles/extensions/ (34 files in 4 dirs): new scripted: supported extensions by gerard
[16:14:50] <RoanKattouw>	dergringo: Redirects?
[16:15:09] <RoanKattouw>	Create [[ABC]] with content #REDIRECT [[XYZ/de]]
[16:15:13] <dergringo>	No not a redirect just an alias
[16:15:44] <RoanKattouw>	So add an Apache alias
[16:15:52] <RoanKattouw>	Alias /ABC /XYZ/de in your Apache config
[16:15:56] <dergringo>	For every article?
[16:15:58] <dergringo>	no
[16:16:19] <dergringo>	looking for something like {{ALIAS:ABC}} inside XYZ
[16:16:48] <RoanKattouw>	That doesn't exist
[16:17:03] <RoanKattouw>	Use redirects, it's what they're for
[16:18:15] <dergringo>	Not in this case ;) Got translated contents of Main_Page at Main_Page/de . But I want that Site also to be available on "Hauptseite"
[16:18:25] <freakolowsky>	dergringo or you could create a template of each article and use it in the default page and on alias page
[16:18:34] <freakolowsky>	but that's just plain nasty
[16:18:51] <elysianfields44>	Quick question: does article->getUser() return the name of the user who created the article? (For some reason it's returning 0 when I tried it).
[16:19:31] <RoanKattouw>	elysianfields44: No. I don't know what it does, but it doesn't return the creator
[16:19:34] <Pinky>	dergringo: couldn't you just put {{Main_Page/de}} in Hauptseite then? 
[16:19:43] <Pinky>	er
[16:19:52] <RoanKattouw>	!class Article | elysianfields44 
[16:19:52] --mwbot--	elysianfields44: See http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/classArticle.html
[16:19:53] <Pinky>	{{:Main Page/de}}
[16:20:03] <elysianfields44>	RoanKattouw: Thanks.
[16:20:22] <dergringo>	Pinky, hmm let me try ;)
[16:25:13] <kim_>	is anyone actually using the installer system yet? I just did a compatibility break
[16:34:57] *Majorly 	updated his wiki for the first time yesterday. I won't be doing that again in a hurry
[16:35:08] <flyingparchment>	use svn instead, it's much easier
[16:35:16] <flyingparchment>	the update is just 'svn switch ...; php maintenance/update.php'
[16:36:10] <stwalkerster>	I tend to keep the wikis I run roughly in line with wikimedia
[16:36:31] <MuisjeRC2>	4.Invalid title in result set;
[16:36:33] <MuisjeRC2>	lol ?
[16:36:37] <stwalkerster>	so it's just svn up -r $REV; php maintenance/update.php
[16:38:27] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) optimise <title> tag on ganglia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14936  +comment (10fvassard)
[16:39:50] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Abuse filter reports incorrect filter description - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19218 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (rohde)
[16:45:58] <kim_>	flyingparchment, or if you're on trunk, just svn update ;-)
[16:46:04] <kim_>	hello Majorly 
[16:46:15] <Subfader>	Is Main Page counted as article in {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} (if contains links)
[16:50:05] <riot>	how do i quote something (like with <pre>) but get line breaks automatically?
[16:50:38] <riot>	i have to quote several paragraphs and they just flow outside the screen :(
[16:51:18] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Extra whitespace at top of page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19219 minor; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (rohde)
[16:51:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Abuse filter reports incorrect filter description - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19218  +comment (10cenarium.sysop)
[16:52:10] <Majorly>	hi kim
[16:52:37] <CIA-79>	03siebrand * r51912 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.i18n.php: article -> wikipage
[16:52:38] <Majorly>	I'm scared of svn
[16:53:12] <Subfader>	riot: that's always the case with pre
[16:53:24] <Subfader>	it doesn't use word-wrap
[16:54:01] <riot>	so, is there any workaround?
[16:55:44] <Subfader>	add the wraps manually
[16:56:07] <siebrand>	RoanKattouw: what is $1 in 'edittoolbar-tool-insert-file-pre'? Is that substituted by [[?
[16:56:22] <RoanKattouw>	Lemme see
[16:56:52] <riot>	Subfader: not an option. Where do i wrap? I have one display with 1920x1200, one with 1400 one with 1280 one with 1024 and one with 800... huh?!
[16:57:05] <mdale>	ping siebrand
[16:57:07] <Subfader>	exactly :)
[16:57:15] <siebrand>	mdale: pong!
[16:57:19] <Subfader>	maybe the devs know a trick
[16:57:28] <riot>	thats why i came here ;)
[16:57:33] <RoanKattouw>	siebrand: I think so, yes
[16:57:38] <riot>	usually you do that by css.. but in a wiki?! hmm
[16:57:40] <mdale>	... about those bugzilla components... 
[16:58:07] <mdale>	any chance we could add them ... or add mwEmbed as a top level 'product'
[16:59:17] <siebrand>	mdale: oh, shoot. Forgot all about those. And it's already been such an exciting day so far :)
[16:59:23] <mdale>	... I suggest a stand alone product because the library can be used in 'stand-alone-mode'
[17:00:01] <siebrand>	mdale: then why not develop it as a stand-alone product, and svn-external it in?
[17:00:03] <mdale>	ie http://www.firefogg.org/make/index.html  uses the mwEmbed library  (need firefox 3.5 & firefogg to play with) 
[17:00:21] <mdale>	siebrand: hmm
[17:00:35] <siebrand>	blah, beside the point. Yeah, we'll create a new product and all those bug are belong to you :)
[17:00:52] <mdale>	sounds good ;)
[17:01:11] <mdale>	It will just make things easer to track...
[17:01:28] <Subfader>	riot: <pre style="white-space: normal;">bla bla</pre>
[17:02:13] <siebrand>	mdale: I do not necessarily agree. It's harder to put bugs into a different domain, for example, compared to recategorising it.
[17:02:33] <Subfader>	actually there could be a class in Common.css though
[17:02:53] <riot>	Subfader: i'll try, thanks.
[17:05:39] <Subfader>	riot: hmh sorry, just tested with one line of text. it cuts all line breaks and paragraphs.
[17:07:16] <riot>	weee, WHAMMO.
[17:07:21] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Pdf rendering does not scale images according to inline px size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19220 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Collection; (grysmith)
[17:07:37] <riot>	but apparently its a css-problem.. *grabsCSSreference*
[17:08:21] <Subfader>	i'm sure if there was an easy solution, it would have been added. like a class for it in Common.css on wikipedia
[17:08:37] <Marco27>	Hi! Do extensions which worked with MediaWiki 1.14.0 work also with MediaWiki 1.15.0?
[17:11:16] <Subfader>	Marco27: Depends. With every upgrade you need to check if everything still works
[17:12:10] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Chapter Header out of sync with Chapters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19221 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Collection; (grysmith)
[17:12:16] <kim_>	Marco27, Mostly! Ask GerardM for details ;-)
[17:13:15] <kim_>	Marco27, We have a system that automatically tests whether everything works for each release
[17:13:19] <kim_>	but it's not complete yet
[17:13:35] <kim_>	about 70-80% of extensions work straight out of the box, FWIW
[17:13:59] <kim_>	Marco27, if you have a question about a specific extension, I can quickly test it for you?
[17:14:08] <siebrand>	mdale: can you please send me the mail again with the components? I think I deleted them after I added then the last time...
[17:14:12] <Subfader>	yep. but there were some major changes in 1.14 which were totally not backwards compatible.
[17:15:08] <Marco27>	kim_: I have to update my wiki and I wanted to know it... Not in a specific question... Thank you :D !
[17:15:45] <mdale>	siebrand: sure
[17:17:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Grant right "abusefilter-log-details" to autoconfirmed users @ zhwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19212  (10shinjiman)
[17:17:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Please Activate AbuseFilter on zh wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18301  (10shinjiman)
[17:20:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable AbuseFilter in Hungarian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19109   +shell (10shinjiman)
[17:20:40] <siebrand>	RoanKattouw: if you gave an answer, I missed it... Got disconnected...
[17:23:20] <RoanKattouw>	RoanKattouw>	siebrand: I think so, yes
[17:23:26] <pROCKrammer[rus]>	hello people
[17:23:31] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Semi Colon indicated Chapter Page on separate page please - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19222 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Collection; (grysmith)
[17:23:36] <pROCKrammer[rus]>	I need your help ) 
[17:23:56] <zocky>	is there a parser function / magic word / whatever to include the title/number of the current section?
[17:24:04] <pROCKrammer[rus]>	i want to create separate Registration page ... 
[17:24:13] <pROCKrammer[rus]>	how could i make it?
[17:24:51] <pROCKrammer[rus]>	is there any API?
[17:26:08] <pROCKrammer[rus]>	People i really need your help ... please
[17:27:07] <pROCKrammer[rus]>	I really want to use media wiki, but there is problem with separate registration ... I am Admin of Linux.Uz
[17:27:50] *pROCKrammer[rus] 	needs help
[17:29:24] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) EditTool i18n messages with markup should be avoided - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19190  +comment (10tparscal)
[17:30:46] <pROCKrammer[rus]>	the only alive memeber is wikibugs ))))
[17:31:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Loop at the end of category on "next" link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19211  15enhancement->normal; +comment (10matthew.britton)
[17:34:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Loop at the end of category on "next" link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19211  (10abxabx)
[17:37:10] <CIA-79>	03mrzman * r51913 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/SpecialAbuseLog.php: (bug 19218) Fix for r49057, join_conds were being passed as query options
[17:40:27] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Abuse filter reports incorrect filter description - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19218  +comment (10mrzmanwiki)
[17:45:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Extra whitespace at top of page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19219  (10matthew.britton)
[17:49:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Self-link feature should use only CSS, not HTML strong tag, for greater flexibility - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19213  summary (10matthew.britton)
[17:57:27] <CIA-79>	03siebrand * r51914 10/trunk/phase3/includes/CategoryPage.php: (bug 19211) Fix regression from r50351 that caused looping in previous/next navigation
[17:57:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Capitalisation of tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19209  (10matthew.britton)
[17:57:47] <Simetrical>	Does anyone know why I got an e-mail with subject "&lt;codereview-email-subj2&gt;" and body text "&lt;codereview-email-body2&gt;"?
[17:57:55] <Simetrical>	If that was supposed to be a review of one of my commits, it's not very helpful.
[17:58:18] <siebrand>	Simetrical: yeah, I mentioned that earlier today. Didn't make a report, though...
[17:59:03] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) PDF rendering now accepts inline font sizes but doesn't adjust line spacing to suit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19223 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Collection; (grysmith)
[18:00:32] <Simetrical>	Maybe it was partially scapped when the mail got sent out?
[18:00:57] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Loop at the end of category on "next" link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19211  +comment (10siebrand)
[18:02:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Capitalisation of tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19209  (10matthew.britton)
[18:02:29] <Simetrical>	Oh well, hopefully nothing important.
[18:03:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Global deleted image review for Commons admins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14801  (10Abigor)
[18:05:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Bot edits not be marked automatically as sighted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19207  (10matthew.britton)
[18:05:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Bot edits should be marked automatically as sighted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19207  summary (10matthew.britton)
[18:06:22] <riot>	there, quote/pre et al suck at quoting books, this one's good: <div style="font-family: monospace; line-height: 75%; text-align: justify;">
[18:07:03] <CIA-79>	03rotem * r51915 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Localization update for he.
[18:08:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Capitalisation of tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19209  +comment (10siebrand)
[18:08:57] <Nikerabbit>	TrevorParscal: more simple does not mean no grammar and no plural, does it?
[18:09:48] <TrevorParscal>	um, I think those are fine - no parsmag or any other special options to the parser
[18:09:55] <pROCKrammer[rus]>	hello
[18:10:02] <Nikerabbit>	TrevorParscal: but isn't that just parsemag
[18:10:04] <pROCKrammer[rus]>	where is declared $wgProfiler ?
[18:10:13] <TrevorParscal>	Michael Dale's mv_embed is driving this work
[18:10:17] <pROCKrammer[rus]>	in which file? 
[18:10:31] <TrevorParscal>	by which I mean, the loadGM and gM work
[18:10:59] <pROCKrammer[rus]>	TrevorParscal: hello, could you be so kind and help me ?>
[18:11:07] <TrevorParscal>	what's up?
[18:11:10] <Nikerabbit>	and I guess plural is definitely going to be needed even where
[18:11:44] <TrevorParscal>	Nikerabbit: one of the possible solutions is to extend loadGM to work with parser parameters
[18:11:49] <pROCKrammer[rus]>	TrevorParscal :  I need help with  $wgProfiler variable ... i cant find where this declared (
[18:12:10] <TrevorParscal>	I don't work with the profiler much - Tim is your man afaik
[18:12:29] <Nikerabbit>	TrevorParscal: parser parameters?
[18:12:41] <TrevorParscal>	wfMsg paramteres
[18:12:43] <TrevorParscal>	sorry
[18:12:44] <pROCKrammer[rus]>	 TrevorParscal : thanx )
[18:12:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Global deleted image review for Commons admins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14801  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[18:12:58] <pROCKrammer[rus]>	Tim: hi, are u here?
[18:13:03] <Nikerabbit>	TrevorParscal: either it calls back parser for 'parsemag' or re-implements them someway :o
[18:13:15] <pROCKrammer[rus]>	he is away ((
[18:13:56] <leilei>	hi all i get problem with wav file format  can anybody the wav format 
[18:16:37] <CIA-79>	03tparscal * r51916 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/EditToolbar.css: Right to left fixes.
[18:16:40] <Nikerabbit>	leilei: can you explain what is the problem
[18:17:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) AbuseFilter does not fail gracefully with bad regex's - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19203  (10matthew.britton)
[18:19:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Capitalisation of tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19209  (10siebrand)
[18:29:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) AbuseFilter does not fail gracefully with bad regex's - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19203  (10matthew.britton)
[18:32:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) AbuseFilter does not fail gracefully with bad regex's - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19203  (10overlordq)
[18:36:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Bot edits should be marked automatically as sighted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19207  (10gtisza)
[18:38:13] <siebrand>	need a coder to look into an XSS vulnerability that was just reported to me. Any takers?
[18:38:30] <CIA-79>	03mrzman * r51917 10/trunk/phase3/includes/db/Database.php: fix typo in comment
[18:38:39] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) SVG rendering: problems with paths beyond page extend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19224 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Images and files; (alexander_berlin)
[18:38:58] <Simetrical>	siebrand, I could, I guess.
[18:39:55] <CIA-79>	03simetrical * r51918 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (AutoLoader.php db/Database.php db/DatabaseMysql.php): (log message trimmed)
[18:39:56] <CIA-79>	Move some stuff from DatabaseBase to DatabaseMysql
[18:39:56] <CIA-79>	I moved a number of methods and marked them abstract in DatabaseBase,
[18:39:56] <CIA-79>	namely those that met the following criteria:
[18:39:56] <CIA-79>	1) Used some mysql_* function, so would obviously fail on any other DB.
[18:39:58] <CIA-79>	2) Were already implemented by all five non-MySQL subclasses.
[18:40:00] <CIA-79>	It would be reasonable to revisit these and make the less essential ones
[18:42:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs custom configuration on Hungarian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15568  (10gtisza)
[18:57:00] <Simetrical>	You know, I should run MediaWiki on SQLite locally so that I don't have to bother keeping mysqld running.
[18:57:10] <Simetrical>	I wonder if I could run Apache through inetd or something as well?
[18:57:40] <flyingparchment>	Simetrical: only in 1.3, it was removed in 2.0
[18:59:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) EditTool i18n messages with markup should be avoided - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19190  +comment (10dale)
[19:01:21] <CIA-79>	03dale * r51919 10/branches/new-upload/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/libSequencer/ (mvSequencer.js mvTimedEffectsEdit.js): transition control tabs displayed
[19:02:53] <kim_>	Don't apache and mysql go to sleep when not running?
[19:03:09] <kim_>	wait, what platform are you on? 
[19:15:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) EditTool i18n messages with markup should be avoided - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19190  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[19:38:30] <akozak>	TehShrike: you could use semantic queries to "hard code" pages
[19:38:35] <akozak>	or
[19:38:38] <TehShrike>	Will namespaces do the trick for me? Any potential problems I could think of?
[19:38:43] <TehShrike>	akozak: how so?
[19:38:47] <akozak>	you could also add the extension "semantic forms"
[19:39:19] <akozak>	semantic forms would enable you to put in a text box on a page and then have that run a query through a template
[19:39:22] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) r51868 makes labels appear a bit ugly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19225 trivial; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (ahmad.m.sherif)
[19:39:40] <akozak>	the thing about semantic mediawiki is that you're only limited by time and your imagination to create the tools that you want on your wiki
[19:40:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) r51868 makes labels appear a bit ugly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19225  (10ahmad.m.sherif)
[19:41:47] <TehShrike>	So... can you briefly describe to me how I would tag pages to be in a specific product, and what would be done to search within that product?
[19:42:10] <TehShrike>	Or perhaps I can find some documentation
[19:43:50] <akozak>	Well, to explain that would be to explain the basic functionality of semantic mediawiki
[19:43:53] <akozak>	basically
[19:44:09] <TehShrike>	All right, I'll read up on it a bit
[19:44:10] <akozak>	you could define pages as being of a certain type
[19:44:16] <akozak>	so you have a product page
[19:44:44] <akozak>	and then pages underneat that would contain something like [[of product::PRODUCT]]
[19:45:00] <TehShrike>	Ah, cool
[19:45:02] <akozak>	and that would mark the page as being of that product
[19:45:11] <akozak>	and the "of product" part
[19:45:13] <akozak>	could be any property
[19:45:22] <akozak>	you define what that means
[19:45:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) width for td.mw-label causes issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19225  summary; +comment (10siebrand)
[19:45:51] <akozak>	I think you wouldb need read up on smw and see some examples to see why that is so useful
[19:46:11] <TehShrike>	I'll do that
[19:46:19] <akozak>	cool :)
[19:48:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) width for td.mw-label causes issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19225  (10agarrett)
[19:48:31] <rainman-sr>	yes you could, you could use lucene-search + prefix option of inputbox
[19:48:41] <TehShrike>	wut?
[19:49:03] <rainman-sr>	if you have product/something/something else
[19:49:13] <rainman-sr>	you can search only the pages beginning with product/
[19:49:35] <rainman-sr>	using inputbox
[19:49:40] <rainman-sr>	!inputbox
[19:49:40] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Inputbox
[19:49:58] <rainman-sr>	but the user interface is a bit sucky, might need some hacking there to make it nice
[19:51:00] <akozak>	one alternative to that is SemanticForms if youre running SMW :)
[19:52:34] <rainman-sr>	yes
[19:52:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Bot edits should be marked automatically as sighted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19207  (10gtisza)
[19:53:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Bot edits should be marked automatically as sighted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19207  (10danny.leinad)
[19:56:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) width for td.mw-label causes issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19225  (10siebrand)
[19:56:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) width for td.mw-label causes issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19225  (10siebrand)
[20:04:20] <OverlordQ>	yaaaay
[20:04:30] <OverlordQ>	I *think* i know what's wrong with abusefilter
[20:06:48] <siebrand>	oh nos! Something's wrong with AbuseFilter?!
[20:07:22] <OverlordQ>	if I can find the bug in my 20 tabs :)
[20:07:30] <OverlordQ>	!b 19203
[20:07:30] --mwbot--	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19203
[20:09:03] <CIA-79>	03aaron * r51920 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: reverted r49889 - breaks patrol mark functions (and a real fix was used anyway)
[20:10:13] <kim_>	TehShrike, Semantic mediawiki is VERY cool. This is the extension that actually has its own extensions ;-)
[20:10:25] *kim_ 	is particularly partial towards SemanticForms atm ;-)
[20:10:33] <kim_>	who knows, it might get me a raise? O:-)
[20:10:42] <TehShrike>	:-o
[20:10:51] <CIA-79>	03ialex * r51921 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Added new message 'sp-deletedcontributions-contribs' for the link to Special:Contributions at the top of Special:DeletedContributions so it is possible to have a non-capitalized link, more or less the same as 48906
[20:11:09] <TehShrike>	It looks really cool. I'm mostly concerned with solving my immediate problem... if it can do that, I imagine I'll begin installing it.
[20:12:13] <kim_>	Exception caught inside exception handler: exception 'AFPUserVisibleException'
[20:12:13] <kim_>	with message 'Error in regular expression "" at character : "date() [<a
[20:12:13] <kim_>	href='function.date'>function.date</a>]: It is not safe to rely on the system's
[20:12:13] <kim_>	timezone settings. Please use the date.timezone setting, the TZ environment
[20:12:13] <kim_>	variable or the date_default_timezone_set() function. In case you used any of
[20:12:14] <kim_>	those methods and you are still getting this warning, you most likely
[20:12:16] <kim_>	misspelled the timezone identifier. We selected 'Europe/London' for '1.0/D
[20:12:42] <kim_>	ouch... sorry. wasn't meant to flood like that, obviously! 
[20:12:56] <kim_>	TehShrike, you don't have our handy dandy installer yet?
[20:13:12] <TehShrike>	:-o
[20:13:12] <RoanKattouw>	kim_: The date() thing is just a harmless warning, the regex thing is the real issue
[20:13:15] <kim_>	./installer.py   install SemanticMediawiki in MyCoolWiki 
[20:13:18] <TehShrike>	I love handy dandy installers
[20:13:25] <CIA-79>	03aaron * r51922 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (3 files): 
[20:13:25] <CIA-79>	*getRevQuality() cleanup & query reduction
[20:13:25] <CIA-79>	*fixed var case typo
[20:13:51] <kim_>	this particular installer is slightly overkill for a single wiki, maybe, it's all scriptable and stuff, and you need to do settings for the installer too
[20:13:56] <AaronSchulz>	werdna: can you sync that stuff?
[20:14:04] <kim_>	buuuut, once it's up, it actually installs stuff pretty quickly ;-)
[20:14:48] <ekimmargni>	Has the weird spacing on forms been reported somewhere?
[20:14:48] <kim_>	svn checkout http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/testing/installer
[20:15:19] <kim_>	and maybe make a settings.py file (copy over settings.py.example and set what you need.)
[20:15:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Bugs on watchlist connected with FlaggedRevs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19214  (10JSchulz_4587)
[20:15:52] <kim_>	RoanKattouw, Okay, I'm just wondering if the date thing was actually what was rethrowing the exception
[20:15:55] *kim_ 	reads on
[20:16:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Bugs connected with FlaggedRevs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19214  summary; +comment (10danny.leinad)
[20:17:20] <kim_>	ah, ok, on mw itself there's no problem with the date, much cleaner... http://bug-attachment.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=6224
[20:17:47] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Articles created by autoeditors are not marked as autoreviewed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19206  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[20:17:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Search finds articles a long time after deletion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1921  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[20:18:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Capitalisation of tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19209  (10servien)
[20:19:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Bugs connected with FlaggedRevs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19214  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[20:19:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Articles created by autoeditors are not marked as autoreviewed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19206  (10JSchulz_4587)
[20:21:56] <CIA-79>	03tparscal * r51923 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/ (EditToolbar.css images/arrow-left.png): Added new left facing arrow icon for use in right to left.
[20:22:20] *AaronSchulz 	pokes robH
[20:22:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Global deleted image review for Commons admins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14801  (10Platonides)
[20:22:34] *RobH 	is out sick today, whats up
[20:22:54] <AaronSchulz>	can you sync a few files?
[20:23:01] <werdna>	I'm here
[20:23:08] <werdna>	I'll review it
[20:23:18] <RobH>	success!
[20:23:23] <werdna>	was busy reacquainting with girlfriend before :P
[20:23:31] <werdna>	what revisions are we talking?
[20:24:07] <AaronSchulz>	http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACode%2FMediaWiki%2Fauthor%2Faaron&path=
[20:24:08] <AaronSchulz>	last 2
[20:25:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Capital letters are always sorted first - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19197  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[20:25:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) check if really can create an account, before advertising to do so - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19186  +comment (10happy-melon)
[20:25:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Capitalisation of tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19209  (10servien)
[20:25:39] <werdna>	AaronSchulz: what's the impact?
[20:25:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Review-API-Module is not working on WMF-Projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19166  (10JSchulz_4587)
[20:25:46] <AaronSchulz>	a lot
[20:25:58] <werdna>	that isn't very useful
[20:26:07] <AaronSchulz>	:)
[20:27:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Capitalisation of tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19209  (10servien)
[20:27:33] <kim_>	laters!
[20:30:33] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Capitalisation of tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19209  +comment (10siebrand)
[20:31:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) AbuseFilter does not fail gracefully with bad regex's - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19203  (10overlordq)
[20:32:10] <OverlordQ>	werdna: On the AbuseFilter editor, has the flagged checkbox always had the disabled attribute?
[20:32:18] <werdna>	yes
[20:32:33] <OverlordQ>	well that's not good, disabled form fields dont get submitted with the field
[20:32:38] <OverlordQ>	*form
[20:33:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Capital letters are always sorted first - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19197  +comment (10happy-melon)
[20:33:34] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Capital letters are always sorted first - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19197  +comment (10happy-melon)
[20:33:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Support collation by a certain locale (sorting order of characters) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164  +comment (10happy-melon)
[20:35:21] <AaronSchulz>	werdna: anyway, autoreview is pretty broken atm
[20:38:07] <CIA-79>	03siebrand * r51924 10/trunk/phase3/skins/monobook/main.css: (bug 19209) Follow-up to r49331: CSS for nds should not apply for nds-nl.
[20:38:37] *OverlordQ 	loves wfDebug and var_export
[20:38:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Capitalisation of tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19209  (10siebrand)
[20:42:49] <CIA-79>	03aaron * r51925 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.class.php: Fixed new page autoreview
[20:44:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Bugs connected with FlaggedRevs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19214  (10JSchulz_4587)
[20:45:13] <CIA-79>	03siebrand * r51926 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (17 files): Localisation updates for core messages from translatewiki.net (2009-06-15 20:41 UTC)
[20:46:35] *AaronSchulz 	pokes RobH again :)
[20:47:34] <CIA-79>	03siebrand * r51927 10/trunk/extensions/ (37 files in 36 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-06-15 20:41 UTC)
[20:49:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Bugs connected with FlaggedRevs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19214  (10claymore.ws)
[20:50:05] <CIA-79>	03purodha * r51928 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/EditToolbar.i18n.php: 
[20:50:05] <CIA-79>	Wikisyntax error fixed accrding to hint of User Toli~no at
[20:50:05] <CIA-79>	http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Support&oldid=1259613#Syntax_error
[20:50:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Bugs connected with FlaggedRevs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19214  (10JSchulz_4587)
[20:51:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Bugs connected with FlaggedRevs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19214  (10claymore.ws)
[20:52:51] *AaronSchulz 	just got a captcha with "bloodchest"
[20:55:06] <werdna>	AaronSchulz: how prophetic
[20:55:09] *werdna 	stabs AaronSchulz 
[20:56:54] <Rich_Morin>	I just got a warning from MW: "This page is 31 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections.".  Thing is, it's a glossary, so it's pretty much required to be long.  How seriously should I take this warning?
[20:57:22] <Marybelle>	Not very.
[20:57:58] <RoanKattouw>	"some browsers" in this context means old browsers
[20:58:03] <Rich_Morin>	That was my guess, too.  tnx
[20:58:21] <CIA-79>	03aaron * r51929 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.hooks.php: Made 'review' links show again
[20:58:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Bugs connected with FlaggedRevs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19214  (10JSchulz_4587)
[20:58:58] *AaronSchulz 	wonders when tim gets back
[20:59:27] <werdna>	AaronSchulz: dude he's going to be spending his time relaxing now that code update's finally happened
[21:00:11] <AaronSchulz>	just need him to sync some things
[21:00:38] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) EditTool i18n messages with markup should be avoided - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19190  +comment (10tparscal)
[21:01:09] <werdna>	you haven't explained what the impact is.
[21:02:06] <TehShrike>	Is it possible to search for a page containing some specific text in the page name, and searching the article text for some other specific text?
[21:02:21] <TehShrike>	Is there any way to just search article titles, instead of page text?
[21:02:47] <AaronSchulz>	werdna: I already said autoreview is broken
[21:03:12] <rainman-sr>	TehShrike, to search titles use intitle:<your query>
[21:03:21] <werdna>	autoreview is broken -- which revision is this?
[21:03:23] <AaronSchulz>	also, the RC interface is much less useful
[21:03:27] <TehShrike>	w00t, thanks rainman-sr
[21:03:36] <werdna>	which code fixes autoreview, and which code fixes recentchanges?
[21:03:45] <werdna>	I see one bugfix for recentchanges and a refactoring.
[21:03:49] <werdna>	refactorings are a bitch to review
[21:03:51] <AaronSchulz>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/author/aaron
[21:05:03] <werdna>	so for those two problems, I need to deploy r51925 and r51920
[21:05:41] <TehShrike>	rainman-sr: is it possible that intitle: and prefix: might be turned off somehow on my MediaWiki install?
[21:06:22] <AaronSchulz>	22 fixes a possible fatal too
[21:06:47] <AaronSchulz>	29, not as important, but makes another RC ui fix
[21:07:56] <rainman-sr>	TehShrike, rather the reverse.. you need to turn them on by changing you search backend.. unfortunately the default mysql backed doesn't support those
[21:08:05] <rainman-sr>	would be  nice to implement them at some point though
[21:08:07] <rainman-sr>	!lucene
[21:08:07] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MWSearch
[21:08:31] <TehShrike>	So that's what Wikipedia uses?
[21:08:44] <werdna>	AaronSchulz: the problem with 22 is that it has a bunch of unrelated refactoring
[21:09:16] <werdna>	I assume this is the fatal fix
[21:09:17] <werdna>	-			if( $badrev && $badrev->getRawUser() && $badrev->getRawUser() != $rev->getRawUser() ) {
[21:09:20] <werdna>	-				$p = FlaggedRevs::getUserParams( $badrev->getRawUser() );
[21:09:23] <werdna>	+			if( $badRev && $badRev->getRawUser() && $badRev->getRawUser() != $rev->getRawUser() ) {
[21:09:26] <werdna>	+				$p = FlaggedRevs::getUserParams( $badRev->getRawUser() );
[21:09:42] <AaronSchulz>	the badRev typo, yeah
[21:10:16] <rainman-sr>	TehShrike, yes
[21:11:26] <CIA-79>	03tparscal * r51930 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/EditToolbar.js: Fixed table rendering bug
[21:18:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Capitalisation of tabs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19209  (10matthew.britton)
[21:21:37] <CIA-79>	03aaron * r51931 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: Fixed flaggedrevsstable default
[21:25:46] <AaronSchulz>	werdna: weee
[21:26:00] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Bugs connected with FlaggedRevs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19214  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[21:26:27] <werdna>	AaronSchulz: I'll get there in a bit
[21:26:37] <AaronSchulz>	\o/
[21:27:37] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Parser renders UI messages with up to one newline different from more - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19226 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (siebrand)
[21:29:11] <CIA-79>	03catrope * r51932 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/PrefStats/ (6 files): 
[21:29:11] <CIA-79>	PrefStats:
[21:29:11] <CIA-79>	* Add Special:PrefStats for viewing statistics using a nice Google Chart; currently restricted because of query load
[21:29:11] <CIA-79>	* Fixes all over the place
[21:52:39] <Simetrical>	Argh.  Why does PHP not have named function arguments?
[21:52:58] <Simetrical>	f( '', array(), array(), null, false, 'the one thing I want to actually say' ) is epic fail.
[21:53:18] <DrHalan>	do i have to update the database in the shell? i am not able to do that on my webspace i guess...
[21:53:25] <Simetrical>	!upgrade | DrHalan 
[21:53:25] --mwbot--	DrHalan: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading
[21:53:34] <Simetrical>	Hmm.
[21:53:34] *Simetrical 	pokes mwbot
[21:53:41] <Simetrical>	Oh, just slow on the uptake.
[21:58:19] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Bugs connected with FlaggedRevs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19214  +comment (10Ahonc.ua)
[22:00:07] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Bugs connected with FlaggedRevs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19214  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[22:01:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Bugs connected with FlaggedRevs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19214  (10danny.leinad)
[22:03:10] <CIA-79>	03catrope * r51933 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/PrefStats/PrefStats.php: PrefStats: Change default time unit to a day
[22:05:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Bot edits should be marked automatically as sighted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19207  +comment (10Ahonc.ua)
[22:08:32] <DrHalan>	Simetrical: yeah i know that page but the problem is that i cannot run shellscripts over ftp
[22:09:32] <Simetrical>	DrHalan, it explains how to upgrade if you only have FTP access, last I checked.
[22:10:15] <DrHalan>	ah okay ive to run the install script again
[22:11:58] <CIA-79>	03tparscal * r51934 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/PrefStats/ (Pref_Stats.alias.php Prefstats.alias.php): Changing some naming
[22:12:22] <CIA-79>	03tparscal * r51935 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/PrefStats/ (PrefStats.alias.php Pref_Stats.alias.php): Changing some naming (done now)
[22:13:44] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) global block should prevent password resets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19227 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (spacebirdy)
[22:14:54] <TehShrike>	Is there any simple documentation for the MediaWiki database structure?
[22:16:20] <TehShrike>	And barring that, does anyone know what page.page_random is used for? 8-\
[22:17:20] <Tim-away>	  -- Random value between 0 and 1, used for Special:Randompage
[22:17:20] <Tim-away>	  page_random real unsigned NOT NULL,
[22:17:27] <Tim-away>	is that enough?
[22:19:21] <TehShrike>	Yeah. I had this irrational fear that it should, in fact, be a deterministic number, and I didn't want to mess anything up with some new redirects I was creating :-x
[22:19:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) global block should prevent password resets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19227  15enhancement->major; normal->high (10wikipedia_emails-nachfrage)
[22:19:53] <Simetrical>	TehShrike, it's in maintenance/tables.sql.
[22:20:02] <Simetrical>	Making page_random deterministic would be interesting.
[22:20:23] <Simetrical>	Like making it phi^n (mod 1) or whatever would make it as evenly distributed as possible.
[22:20:45] *AaronSchulz 	<3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fBjTuHseOA
[22:24:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) EditTool i18n messages with markup should be avoided - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19190  (10dale)
[22:26:11] <^demon>	Hehe, I got a talk page message from User:$wgUser
[22:26:56] <Nizar>	hey guys.. how can i add items or categories to the Navigation sidebar?
[22:27:07] <RoanKattouw>	!sidebar | Nizar 
[22:27:07] --mwbot--	Nizar: To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar>.
[22:27:40] <Nizar>	thank you
[22:27:57] <^demon>	RoanKattouw: How's it going?
[22:28:08] <RoanKattouw>	Good
[22:28:22] <^demon>	Glad to hear.
[22:30:10] *^demon 	runs first svn update since friday morning
[22:36:52] <CIA-79>	03demon * r51936 10/branches/maintenance-work/maintenance/refreshImageCount.php: Port refreshImageCount.php
[22:40:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) EditTool i18n messages with markup should be avoided - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19190  (10roan.kattouw)
[22:46:44] <Nizar>	what does Uncategorized category mean?
[22:46:49] <Nizar>	what is the difference?
[22:46:56] <RoanKattouw>	A category that's not in another category
[22:48:04] <Nizar>	hmm i added a new page called Family and made it a category, added a new page to it called Me, when i got to the Family category list i see 2 listed, Me and Family.. thats normal?
[22:48:25] <RoanKattouw>	You don't make a page a category
[22:48:31] <Reedy>	Category:Family
[22:48:44] <Reedy>	catergories can have pages though
[22:48:55] <Nizar>	how do i make a category then?
[22:48:58] <RoanKattouw>	[[Category:Familiy]] is a category
[22:49:08] <RoanKattouw>	[[Family]] is not a category; it can be in one or more categories
[22:49:10] <Nizar>	it says in the docs create a new page and type that on it
[22:49:16] <Nizar>	hmm
[22:49:44] <Splarka>	you create the category by putting pages in it
[22:49:47] <Splarka>	which is what the docs mean
[22:49:59] <Splarka>	you create a category description page by creating a page starting with your localization of 'Category'
[22:51:18] <CIA-79>	03demon * r51937 10/branches/maintenance-work/maintenance/Maintenance.php: Tweak needsDB() into something a little more versatile. Maybe can replace $wgUseNormalUser?
[22:51:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) EditTool i18n messages with markup should be avoided - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19190  +comment (10siebrand)
[22:52:00] <Nizar>	and when i want to add a page to Family category, i just start the page with [[Category:Family]] ?
[22:52:07] <RoanKattouw>	Yes
[22:52:11] <RoanKattouw>	Or end it; doesn't matter
[22:52:28] <Nizar>	ok, cool.. 
[22:52:36] <Nizar>	i dont know why i didnt understand that from the docs
[22:52:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) AntiSpoof index exceeds 1000 byte limit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19164  summary; +comment (10tstarling)
[22:53:02] <Simetrical>	Most likely because they were written by friendly but very confused monkeys.
[22:53:31] <Splarka>	oo oo ee ee
[22:53:36] <Simetrical>	Whose idea of helpful documentation is adding random anecdotes on mostly unrelated topic over time until the useful info is lost in a towering pile of trivia.
[22:54:10] <^demon>	[[$wgUser in popular culture]]
[22:54:24] <Splarka>	*The man in the yellow hat keeps a banana in his coat pocket<ref>http://pbskids.org/curiousgeorge/</ref>
[22:54:35] <Splarka>	*The man in the yellow hat keeps a banana in his pants too{{fact}}
[22:57:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Show ogg file size (in KiB or so) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19172  (10tstarling)
[23:01:31] <_Seff_>	i have set MediaWiki:Mainpage to something custom, but when I type the wiki subdomain address in the browser, i still get  the Main_page
[23:01:35] <_Seff_>	how do I change that?
[23:02:23] <Splarka>	that should change that, perhaps it is cache, try a url fragment like http://your.domain?123
[23:03:25] <_Seff_>	hmm still getting main page :< 
[23:04:11] <^demon>	Do you have any rewrite rules in place?
[23:04:14] <Splarka>	what does your logo link to?
[23:04:32] <Splarka>	and/or the top link in your navigation sidebar?
[23:05:00] <_Seff_>	yeah i have rewrite rules
[23:05:06] <_Seff_>	logo links correct
[23:05:11] <_Seff_>	also correct
[23:05:38] <_Seff_>	i have subdomain.domain.com/Something_something
[23:05:43] <^demon>	Anything in your rewrite rules involving main_page?
[23:05:53] <_Seff_>	hmm ill check
[23:14:34] <Annemarie>	Splarka: Someone fucked with the HTML of Special:Contributions, I think.
[23:14:39] <Annemarie>	So it's now Special_Contributions_username
[23:14:46] <Annemarie>	How do I do a wildcard for that?
[23:14:59] <Splarka>	oh, they did that for all slashie special pages
[23:15:25] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Log/stfu/gbtw
[23:15:30] <Splarka>	<body class="mediawiki ltr ns--1 ns-special page-Special_Log_stfu_gbtw skin-monobook">
[23:15:34] <Annemarie>	Yeah, don't mind breaking shit...
[23:15:44] <dergringo>	Finally I got a working translation solution up! Thanks to everybody who helped!
[23:15:50] <Splarka>	body[class^="page-Special_Log"]
[23:15:55] <Splarka>	won't work in IE7--;
[23:16:03] <Splarka>	(IIRC)
[23:16:43] <Annemarie>	Ew?
[23:16:49] <^demon>	Class creep, much?
[23:16:51] <Annemarie>	There's no Special_Contributions_* or something?
[23:17:01] <Annemarie>	The change should be reverted.
[23:17:15] <Splarka>	yes, it should
[23:17:29] <Splarka>	MZM: http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-selectors/#selectors
[23:17:40] <infinisoft>	Hi Splarka: I got that script to work, and its compatible with the enhanced recent changes too
[23:17:58] <infinisoft>	Thanks for your help yesterday :)
[23:18:05] <Splarka>	oops, I was hoping it would break them
[23:18:08] *Splarka 	hates rc+
[23:18:11] *Annemarie 	goes to look up the rev to poke Tim.
[23:18:12] <^demon>	Splarka: What rev was that?
[23:18:31] <Splarka>	^demon: which what was who?
[23:18:34] <Splarka>	the class change? no idea
[23:18:55] *Splarka 	asks the skins
[23:20:33] <Splarka>	$name = Sanitizer::escapeClass( 'page-'.$title->getPrefixedText() );
[23:20:38] <Splarka>	doesn't look like it changed recently
[23:20:44] <Splarka>	so it must be more esoteric
[23:22:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Improve accessibility of the search page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16741  +comment (10tparscal)
[23:23:58] <Splarka>	and nothing changed in function getPrefixedText() since r21287
[23:26:07] *Splarka 	sends ^demon to debug
[23:26:20] <^demon>	Hmm.
[23:28:04] <CIA-79>	03rainman * r51938 10/branches/lucene-search-2.1/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Add support for multiple prefixes, use syntax like: prefix:Article1|Article2|Article3
[23:31:03] <CIA-79>	03rainman * r51939 10/trunk/extensions/MWSearch/MWSearch_body.php: Pair to r51938, properly replace namespace names in piped prefix lists
[23:35:22] <TehShrike>	Anyone know what goes in logging.log_params?  The tables.sql file says "LF separated list of miscellaneous parameters" which doesn't help me very much.
[23:37:09] <Betacommand>	TehShrike: the specifics of the log events take a look at your db for examples
[23:37:17] <TehShrike>	I did
[23:37:32] <OverlordQ>	!man Logging table
[23:37:32] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Logging
[23:37:32] <TehShrike>	I see things like: 203\n139\n1
[23:37:35] <OverlordQ>	oops fail
[23:37:39] <OverlordQ>	!man Logging_table
[23:37:39] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Logging_table
[23:38:19] <TehShrike>	OverlordQ: sweet! thanks.
[23:41:48] <CIA-79>	03demon * r51940 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/EditToolbar.i18n.php: Cleanup r51928, fix bold-italic for all languages.
[23:45:41] <Splarka>	sigh
[23:45:46] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) New magic words: {{USERLANGUAGE}} and {{USERVARIANT}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19217  +comment (10herd)
[23:45:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Magic word to expose user's language variant preference - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10964  +comment (10herd)
[23:46:19] <Splarka>	how could they have missed that one?