[00:03:29] 03siebrand * r52228 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: Update ignored list for PrefStats (+prefstats-list-elem) [00:03:55] 03(mod) Enable Lua extension on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19298 (10matthew.britton) [01:01:08] hey, I edited the monobook style. Where are those changes stored? [01:01:20] I saved the whole wiki directory and would like to restore those changes [01:02:04] how did you edit it? [01:02:30] it's in the first place you originally changed it [01:02:35] hmm [01:02:46] I edited through the wiki [01:03:00] then it isn't in the skins folder [01:03:09] perhaps you edited MediaWiki:Monobook.css ? [01:03:22] I think so [01:03:38] then it's there [01:03:44] there where? [01:03:45] it's just like any other article [01:03:52] [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]] [01:04:13] huh... what would the url be? I'm a noob to this [01:04:33] I don't know if I was clear: it was a different wiki [01:04:36] what's the url to an article? [01:04:55] it's not in this wiki, I backed up the previous one [01:05:30] I'd like to know which file has it, so I can replace the current [01:05:36] what's the url on this wiki? [01:05:41] it's not a 'file' [01:05:45] it's stored in the db [01:05:52] just like any other article [01:06:10] dammit [01:06:12] then I lost it [01:07:30] http://vitoria.awardspace.info/wiki/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Monobook.css -- is it initially empty? [01:07:33] oops [01:07:52] yes monobook is empty by default [01:08:29] Schuenemann, did you lost all your articles content? [01:09:08] yes, but there was nothing important. It was in the beginning, I actually only changed some settings [01:09:32] well, then you lost it [01:09:57] yeah, learnt the tough way :) [01:21:53] Subfader: you are using Extension:Replace? [01:22:19] That extension works? [01:22:23] I've had issues with it. [01:22:29] no idea [01:22:38] pwyikimediabot is more effective in my opinion. [01:22:45] I tried it once and it was total fail. [01:22:48] Subfader: if you have StringFunctions you could probably do something to preserve whitespace [01:22:55] hehe i exactly try that atm. {{#replace:{{urlencode:{{{param1}}}}}|SOMECHARFORBLANK|+}} [01:23:17] }} [01:23:32] some template parameter types (either named or unnamed, I never remember which) preserve whitespace, so you could do something like... [01:24:05] {{urlencode:START{{{1}}}END}} and around that have a string function remove start and end [01:24:22] oh, #replace [01:25:12] but anyway, rather than replace the blanks, you could buffer the parameter and replace the buffers [01:30:28] Hi! [01:30:34] I've got a little problem. [01:31:02] I'm translating the Mandriva wiki-page from English into Swedish and posting it to the Swedish part. [01:31:48] My problem is that I'd like the Huvudsida (Mainpage/Frontpage) to be renamed to Hem. [01:33:23] you can edit the MediaWiki:Mainpage page on the wiki [01:33:42] this changes what the logo points to for the main page, as well as the default page if no title is given, and default returnto page [01:34:49] Uuuuuuuuuuuuhm. Could you please explain to me in a easier way? [01:35:00] I haven't done this before. [01:35:07] Not with a wiki-page. [01:35:26] Especially with the Mandriva wiki-page. [01:36:11] go to a page: index.php?title=MediaWiki:Mainpage&action=edit [01:36:25] what do you see in the edit box? Huvudsida? [01:36:40] Wait a minute. [01:37:11] http://wiki.mandriva.com/sv/index.php?title=Huvudsida&action=edit [01:37:11] You mean THAT page? [01:37:55] well, that is the page you're editing [01:38:07] you wanna rename it right? you just move it [01:38:21] I can't. It says that it exists. [01:38:46] I want to rename it to Hem. [01:38:47] flytta or something [01:38:50] That's what I want. [01:38:55] Yes. [01:39:01] I already tried that. [01:39:07] it won't let you move it? [01:39:43] well, anyway [01:39:56] Nope. I can't move it. [01:40:43] hmm [01:41:18] http://wiki.mandriva.com/sv/Special:Flytta/Huvudsida?wpNewTitle=Hem [01:41:20] doesn't work? [01:42:34] Nope. [01:42:42] It seems I'm not allowed. [01:42:55] okay [01:43:27] It whould be really nice if someone could fix this for me. [01:43:37] Since I don't have the rights. [01:43:49] hmm: http://wiki.mandriva.com/sv/Special:Anv%C3%A4ndare [01:43:53] well, someone must have access [01:44:10] http://wiki.mandriva.com/sv/Special:Gruppr%C3%A4ttighetslista [01:44:23] heh, not much at this wiki [01:44:30] what would cause "Invalid title in result set;" to display in Special:WantedPages [01:44:35] okay, well, find whoever runs it [01:44:48] have them do two things: [01:44:50] 1) change http://wiki.mandriva.com/sv/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Mainpage&action=edit to Hem [01:44:57] 2) http://wiki.mandriva.com/sv/Special:Flytta/Huvudsida?wpNewTitle=Hem [01:45:15] charito: a null title [01:45:32] a 1.14 bug IIRC [01:45:58] in 1.14 [[#foo]] would register a wanted link to a null title [01:46:36] any idea how to track it down? [01:47:30] you mean, where it is being linked to? [01:47:45] yeah [01:48:04] probably a lot of places, the Cite extension registers zillions of them for example [01:48:04] to get rid of it/fix it [01:48:19] Splarka: Uuuuuuuuhm. Seems that I don't have the proper rights to make any changes. [01:48:24] oh, Cite is installed [01:49:11] Umeaboy: evil, that wiki seems badly set up [01:50:05] When someone has the opportunity to point me in the correct direction, I'm having an issue configuring a MediaWiki installation. For some reason, URLs with www in the beginning do not exist, and the wiki keeps trying to direct me to those pages. Due to the nature of the issue, it's difficult to figure out what exactly to search on google for an answer. [01:50:37] [[Media:File.jpg]] should link to the image right (not the image description page)? [01:51:34] charitwo: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16965 [01:52:10] Splarka: thanks [01:52:25] charitwo: you can apply the patches in 1.14 [01:52:34] Heya. Got a "Notice: Undefined index: page_latest in /usr/local/www/wikifur/prod/pool/w/includes/ChangesList.php on line 329" coming up for logged in admin users on Sepcial:RecentChangesLinked - this code seems to be responsible: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/ChangesList.php?r1=48986&r2=48989 [01:52:35] I think it was backported to the branch, but 1.14.1 hasn't been released yet [01:53:43] 03(NEW) do_unique_pl_tl_il is 1.15 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19316 trivial; Normal; MediaWiki: Documentation; (Platonides) [01:55:32] charitwo: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=47983 [01:57:28] i don't need the other one ? [01:57:58] maybe [01:58:10] Mike_lifeguard: http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/16474 [02:01:41] Splarka: Yeah, but I'm doing stuff one by one. [02:02:01] I'm just waiting for my wish to come true. [02:03:32] thanks... now to see if it works cross-wiki [02:04:23] nope ^_^ [02:05:11] how cross-wiki? interwiki or shared repository? [02:06:01] *GreenReaper is trying to do interwiki search with a horrible hack to MySQL search. [02:06:36] interwiki [02:06:43] If lucene can do it, don't see why MySQL can't. ;-) [02:06:49] I wanted to link to the privacy policy which is a pdf on wmf.org [02:08:53] [[wikimediafoundation:File:name.pdf]] [02:09:32] yeah, but that links to the image page, not the pdf itself [02:10:02] yah, same for {{fullurl:en:image:Wiki.png}} [02:10:31] not the end of the world - I just used an external link [02:10:41] there may be a way [02:10:57] [[wikimediafoundation:Media:name.pdf]] [02:11:21] that links to the image description page, and the link below the PDF icon is bolded (ie not a link) [02:11:42] 03(mod) Enable Lua extension on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19298 (10agarrett) [02:11:54] [[:en:Special:Filepath/Wiki.png]] [02:12:01] *Mike_lifeguard tests [02:12:10] does a local bounce to another local bounce [02:13:17] nice [02:13:20] thanks [02:15:03] rar [02:15:14] but with that though it has to exist [02:16:17] luckily it does :P [02:19:40] Splarka: i patched it in but it's still reporting ^_^ [02:20:10] charitwo: because the pages are cached [02:20:25] refreshlinks or whatever it is [02:20:45] Mike_lifeguard: http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/16474#Interwiki [02:21:22] thanks [02:22:44] wonder why none of them seem to work [02:22:50] oh, dur [02:22:54] heh [02:22:58] *Splarka only changed half of them [02:24:24] Mike_lifeguard: http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/16474#Interwiki (not so stupid now, heh) [02:24:37] ^_^ [02:37:48] 03(mod) page rendering problems at en.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18686 (10weskaggs) [02:39:05] Is there a bug open for diffs failing on big revisions like http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/45231 ? [02:41:02] 03(mod) "Changes related" has no rollback link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18251 +patch; +comment (10greenreaper) [02:50:14] Anyone here like zombies? and games? :) [02:50:21] 03(NEW) I'd like to change name on the Huvudsida-page into Hem as in Home, but I don't have the rights to do so. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19317 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (kristoffer.grundstrom1983) [02:51:07] graaagh? [02:53:55] 03(NEW) PDF rendering does not suppor
- 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19318 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Collection; (grysmith) [03:01:26] could someone here help me with debugging why the geshi extension is stubbornly not working? [03:02:50] mshadle: go ahead [03:08:30] ive got it installed, supposedly. [03:08:46] if i make a change to a subfile, it errors out. so i know it's requiring everything [03:08:53] but i dont know why it's not spitting out the geshi syntax [03:09:37] what do you get instead of geshi syntax? [03:10:25] jut normal o utput [03:10:28] if you go to [[Special:Version]], does it show in the list of tags? [03:10:36] a 
 tag
[03:10:56] 	Parser extension tags
[03:10:56] 	
,  and 
[03:10:58] 	yeah
[03:11:28] 	what is the wikitext you're using to invoke it?
[03:11:53] 	the stantax example
[03:11:55] 	standard
[03:13:18] 	... ?
[03:13:19] 	the 	yeah
[03:14:08] 	and how do you know it's generating a 
 tag?
[03:14:11] 	check the source, is it a normal 
 or is it full of spans/divs/classes? possibly just the geshi styles aren't loading
[03:14:35] 	i think that might be it
[03:14:43] 	it has a lot of spans
[03:16:03] 	where do the geshi styles come out? inline in the  or something?
[03:16:58] 	yes, in the 
[03:18:00] 	is there a $this->text() with that in it?
[03:18:12] 	i see pagetitle, bodytext
[03:18:30] 	go to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi
[03:18:38] 	already been there
[03:18:40] 	click view source, that's what you should see on yours, more or less
[03:18:54] 	a massive stylesheet inline in the page
[03:19:18] 	yeyah i think it's because i have my own  print out perhaps
[03:19:28] 	i need to figure out where it's dumping it
[03:19:34] 	is there  pagehead or headtext ?
[03:21:30] 	you can get the appropriate  element using $wgOut->headElement()
[03:21:30] 	hmm.
[03:21:53] 	you can add your own styles to that using hooks or whatever, you can't write your own from scratch
[03:21:57] 	you'll break everything
[03:25:21] 	ok cool
[03:25:38] 	hang on
[03:26:19] 	03aaron * r52229 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SpecialPage.php: Missing file commit from r52226
[03:26:32] 	03(mod) Add time elapsed next to last modified timestamp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19276  (10mrzmanwiki)
[03:26:51] 	in SkinTemplate it's in the headscripts variable
[03:27:05] 	so in monobook:
[03:27:12] 			
[03:27:14] 	html('headscripts') ?>
[03:31:21] 	it cancels out my pre border
[03:31:22] 	gr
[03:31:45] 	yes, that's normal
[03:31:56] 	the pre border in the old version Wikimedia has is an accident
[03:32:18] 	but i want the pre.
[03:32:20] 	border
[03:32:30] 	just add it to common.css then
[03:32:41] 	here, you can see it here:
[03:32:42] 	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css
[03:32:43] 	i added it below all the geshi calls but it still isnt in effect. hrm
[03:32:46] 	in the source:
[03:32:57] 	.source-css li, .source-css pre {
[03:32:57] 		line-height: normal; border: 0px none white;
[03:32:58] 	it would be something like pre {border: 1px dashed #colourcode}
[03:33:11] 	but there was a bug
[03:33:14] 	
[03:33:19] 	the class is  ON the pre, not the parent
[03:33:27] 	in later versions of geshi this was fixed
[03:34:13] 	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16324
[03:34:21] 	well supposedly im using the latest, i though
[03:34:22] 	t
[03:34:44] 	yes, that's normal
[03:34:55] 	they intentionally remove the pre border
[03:35:15] 	probably when Wikimedia upgrades geshi there will be a zillion people screaming bloody murder over it
[03:36:35] 	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10967#c10
[03:38:39] 	p858snake: IIRC there is no way to actually do that, without giving it to all pre, and with line numbering geshi can use (iirc) a bunch of  single line 
, which would look horrible
[03:38:52] 	this is odd
[03:39:18] 	oh, yeah duh
[03:39:53] 	p858snake: the problem is the classes look like 
 or 
[03:39:58] 	its ont on the pre but inside of it. argh
[03:40:04] 	so you'd have to use CSS 2 selectors
[03:40:42] 	fuck it, it's open source
[03:41:39] 	perfect.
[06:04:55] 	i there, Hi Annemarie,
[06:07:08] 	I made quite a mistake on a wiki
[06:07:48] 	I had added new namespaces before
[06:07:56] 	with $wgExtraNamespaces
[06:08:25] 	(in LocalSetting)
[06:09:32] 	Then I used $wgExtraNamespaces again,  to change another namespace (NS_USER_TALK)
[06:10:09] 	it erased the namespaces I had added before !
[06:10:59] 	Can I get the pages back ?
[06:12:35] 	Here is an extract of my LocalSetting
[06:12:54] 	Hi mattis^ 
[06:13:17] 	Here is an extract of my LocalSetting :
[06:13:44] 	$wgExtraNamespaces =
[06:13:45] 		array(
[06:13:47] 			100 => "Proyecto",
[06:13:48] 			101 => "Proyecto_Discusión",
[06:13:50] 			102 => "Portal",
[06:13:51] 			103 => "Portal_Discusión",
[06:13:53] 			104 => "Quiz",
[06:13:55] 			105 => "Quiz_Discusión",
[06:13:56] 	);
[06:13:58] 	$wgExtraNamespaces = array(
[06:13:59] 	NS_USER_TALK => 'Discusión_de_usuario',
[06:14:11] 	You have to add to the array, not replace it.
[06:14:56] 	There's various ways of doing it
[06:14:59] 	Yes, I probably shouldn't have usee twice this command
[06:15:30] 	But will I get back the content of these namespaces ?
[06:15:32] 	$wgExtraNamespaces[NS_USER_TALK] = 'Discusión_de_usuario'; would probably do if that's the only one (replace the second usage with that)
[06:15:37] 	Sure, they've not disappeared.
[06:15:43] 	You just don't have a way to get to them.
[06:16:38] 	If there is more than one entry in the second array, you could use $wgExtraNamespaces = array_merge( $wgExtraNamespaces, array( . . .) ) ;
[06:18:33] 	Shouldn't I just include the content of the second array in the first one ?
[06:18:45] 	It's also amazing that namespaces are called by their number once, and their code the other time (NS_USER_TALK)...
[06:18:54] 	You could do that too.
[06:19:11] 	Well, you're welcome to define a code for your own namespaces.
[06:19:21] 	In fact I think the manual recommends you do so if you intend to refer to them in more than one place.
[06:20:06] 	Indeed: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Using_custom_namespaces
[06:21:07] 	Ok, but their defaulf code is in letters isn't it ?
[06:21:49] 	Namespaces are numbered
[06:22:01] 	Somewhere, there is probably define("NS_FOO_TALK", 101);
[06:22:32] 	or rather, define("NS_USER_TALK", 1);
[06:23:03] 	The defines are so you don't need to use magic numbers all over the place.
[06:24:12] 	But my problem may come from the fact that I use once number, then lettres for the namespaces ?
[06:24:54] 	No. Your problem comes from the fact that you had set the numbers for your extra namespaces, and then threw those numbers away by assigning a different array to $wgExtraNamespaces
[06:25:24] 	It is just a variable containing an array. If you replace it with another array, the first array is lost. If you want to keep the previous entries, you have to merge the arrays.
[06:26:08] 	Or, as you said, just assign it once and move the new entries into the first array.
[06:27:10] 	I am a little confused about why you're changing NS_USER_TALK. It should be set right if you have the language set correctly.
[06:28:18] 	Well, the users of this wiki asked for that
[06:28:23] 	If you want the entire wiki to be in another language you would set $wgLanguageCode = 'pt' (or whatever) to change that
[06:28:53] 	It was in the good language,(spanish) but they wanted it otherwise
[06:28:57] 	That sets the default language of the wiki, although people can still set English or any other language supported by MediaWiki in their preferences.
[06:29:29] 	Pfft, the only good language is a dead language. ;-)
[06:31:07] 	They wanted "Usuario Discusión" changed to "Mensajes de usuario"
[06:31:47] 	Actually I don't speak spanish myself
[06:32:11] 	(I'm french)
[06:34:10] 	Well, it should not be a problem as long as you either only set the array once, or add to it rather than replacing it.
[06:34:18] *GreenSleeper 	has to sleep now, long day. :-)
[06:34:52] 	So  we will get back what was allready done in these namespaces that had disapeared won't we ? (That's my main concern)
[06:35:17] *Astirmays 	has made his night, its the morning here
[06:38:32] 	Thanks GreenSleeper , good night !
[06:40:29] 	03rotem * r52230 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update.
[06:58:54] 	Hello
[07:00:11] 	I was wondering if there was a way to use a image as a link on the same page I found a work around (kinda) for links to different pages
[07:02:21] 	should work, like link=Foo#bar
[07:06:50] 	kk
[07:10:51] 	Major_Payne: [[Image:Wiki.png|link=#bar]]  works to link to ==bar==  later in the page, in 1.14+ anyway
[07:15:31] 	thank you
[07:37:32] 	03(NEW) Show explanatory message on Special:Activeusers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19319 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[07:48:33] 	Hi.
[07:48:45] 	Anyone here a bureaucrat on testwiki?
[07:49:35] 	I need reviewer status, so I can see teh messages in context. I am trying to localize flaggerdrevs messages at translatewiki for the finnish language.
[07:49:55] 	User:Cimon Avaro at testwiki
[07:51:49] 	!ping Danny_B
[07:51:49] --mwbot--	Pong.
[07:52:05] 	!ping dungodung
[07:52:05] --mwbot--	Pong.
[07:52:14] 	?
[07:52:19] 	I am, yes :)
[07:52:22] 	read upscreen
[07:53:02] 	 hello, I want to make a form for linux distributor. for example the distrbution he has , can he help with installing, can he give courses ...etc
[07:53:10] 	cimon: you are already a reviewer
[07:53:19] 	 I think it's called template
[07:53:20] 	> I want when some one click I want to be distributor ,he will be presented with fields to fill
[07:54:30] 	ok, dungodung ther is something wrong wiht the user rights management system though. it gave me an error message that I don't have the rights to change user righst, though when Iloodke at recent changes it did log the user rights change...
[07:54:50] 	hey, it's a test wiki ;)
[07:54:59] 	things are bound to be buggy
[07:55:15] 	mors
[08:05:15] 	or maybe it's called info box
[08:14:16] 	ugga
[08:18:13] 	03(mod) I'd like to change name on the Huvudsida-page into Hem as in Home, but I don't have the rights to do so. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19317  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[08:19:57] 	testwiki probably needs updating anyway or if it was in the latest scrape, its probably a broken extenstion
[08:25:31] <\n>	Hey guys, I'm having some serious issues with the codereview extension (segfaults on svnImport.php run). Anyone with experience with that extension around?
[08:27:17] 	03siebrand * r52231 10/trunk/extensions/WikimediaMessages/WikimediaGrammarForms.php: Add grammar forms for 'uk'. Submitted by Ahonc.
[08:29:30] *cimon 	stands on teh buggy and calls to the horses Giddy-up!
[08:30:04] 	is the buggy buggy?
[08:36:24] 	hi Splarka
[08:36:46] 	\n: is ih php that segfaults?
[08:36:48] 	it*
[08:37:18] *Splarka 	throws carrots at nike
[08:39:04] <\n>	Nikerabbit: THey appear to be coming from a shell script running svn report. See http://dpaste.org/oASf/
[08:43:06] <\n>	Nikerabbit: Any ideas?
[08:46:01] 	03(mod) Automatic hyphens to (localized?) dashes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1485  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[08:46:39] 	looks like svn is segfaulting to me... in which case we cannot help much
[08:46:53] 	it may be because your resource limits are too tight
[08:47:28] <\n>	Nikerabbit: I run the command outside of the script and it works fine :(
[08:48:40] 	03(NEW) Right click to edit section fails with {{ in section title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19320 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (niklas.laxstrom)
[08:48:43] 	sure, increase your limits then
[08:50:46] 	nobody is fixing my bugs :/
[08:51:21] 	don'tcha have commit access? {{sofixit}} ?
[08:52:42] 	03(mod) Stale diff pages in cache - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13724  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[08:53:07] 	Splarka: I'm fixing so many darn things that I'm expecting someone to fix something I cannot
[08:53:53] 	fair
[08:55:22] 	03siebrand * r52232 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: Update optional list for OptIn (browsers/OSes)
[08:57:03] 	Nikerabbit: you only have 9 open bugs
[08:57:52] 	Nikerabbit: I have 24, fix some of mine
[09:08:18] 	03siebrand * r52233 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/NavigableTOC/NavigableTOC.i18n.php: Remove period in descriptionmsg
[09:09:50] 	Nikerabbit: excellent. Focus on the GSoC, not on all other broken things :)
[09:21:52] 	\n: stop renicking please
[09:22:26] 	yeah, particularly annoying
[09:23:14] 	what's with the \* nicks anyway, stupid
[09:25:24] <\n>	charitwo: What's with the nick starting with c? Equally stupid.
[09:25:46] <\n>	charitwo: Obviously my reasoning is I like the nick, isn't that enough?
[09:26:02] 	Considering a handful of people are using them, it's rather curious
[09:27:01] <\n>	charitwo: You mean \s also? That is a ssh account of mine :)
[09:27:22] 	i mean more than one person
[09:27:25] 	you're not the only one
[09:28:07] 	kids and their toys, wait until they find `^[]{}-_|
[09:28:41] <\n>	Splarka: Most of them are already reserved. The freenoede spring cleaning freed the \ ones
[09:31:11] 	does any one know how to make an info box like things to collect information about Linux distributors 
[09:49:48] 	03(mod) width for td.mw-label causes issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19225  (10gtisza)
[09:50:06] 	03catrope * r52234 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiRollback.php): API: (bug 19313) action=rollback returns wrong revid on master/slave setups
[09:50:40] 	03(FIXED) API action=rollback success message property 'revid' incorrect from replication - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19313  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[10:20:10] 	03(NEW) Two "Other" options for time zone settings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19321 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: User preferences; (lejonel)
[10:21:04] 	03(mod) width for td.mw-label causes issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19225  +comment (10siebrand)
[10:25:01] 	03(mod) Cite: when using "group=" attribute within "ref" element the space can cause line-break - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19303  summary (10bburette)
[10:37:13] 	03(NEW) Hide bots from Logs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19322 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Blocking; (admin)
[10:49:07] 	03(mod) Change SITENAME and add namespace alias on Ukrainian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18781  (10pavlo.shevelo)
[10:50:00] 	hi
[10:50:11] 	i would need some help installing mediawiki on my server
[10:50:44] 	anyone?
[10:52:22] 	hmm no one?
[10:52:33] 	Just ask your question
[10:52:40] 	And if someone can help you, they will
[10:53:02] 	well.. I've done everything that the guide tells me to do, but I don't get it to work..
[10:54:18] 	What goes wrong?
[10:54:28] 	404 error code
[10:55:40] 	Which URL are you visiting?
[10:55:56] 	what do you mean?
[10:56:04] 	my own?
[10:56:28] 	Which URL are you visiting to get that 404?
[10:56:44] 	my own: http://wikipedia.urog.org/wiki/Main_Page
[10:58:16] 	In which directory did you install MediaWiki?
[10:58:58] 	/w
[11:00:13] 	mediawiki is on the right place, as it should, but I don't get the Aliases to work
[11:00:16] 	What are $wgArticlePath and $wgScript set to in LocalSettings.php ?
[11:01:17] 	$wgArticlePath = "{$wgScriptPath}/wiki/$1";
[11:01:40] 	which $wgScript do you mean? I got Path and Extension running in that file
[11:02:28] 	Hmm that looks wrong
[11:02:41] 	what should it be then?
[11:02:49] 	"/wiki/$1"
[11:03:06] 	ok
[11:03:55] 	how about $wgScriptPath = "/w"; and $wgScriptExtension = ".php"; are these correct?
[11:04:06] 	Yes
[11:04:09] 	ok
[11:04:45] 	hmm
[11:04:47] 	still nothing
[11:04:54] 	Good, going to /w/ now sends you to /wiki/Main_Page , it used to go to /w/wiki/Main_Page
[11:05:04] 	Now presumably, you've configured some kind of Alias in Apache
[11:05:08] 	Can you quote that line?
[11:05:51] 	
[11:05:52] 	        Order allow,deny
[11:05:52] 	        Allow from all
[11:05:52] 	        
[11:05:52] 	        Alias /wiki/ /var/www/vhosts/urog.org/subdomains/wikipedia/httpdocs/w/index.php
[11:05:52] 	        Alias /index.php /var/www/vhosts/urog.org/subdomains/wikipedia/httpdocs/w/index.php
[11:05:54] 	        Alias /w/skins/ /var/www/vhosts/urog.org/subdomains/wikipedia/httpdocs/w/skins/
[11:05:56] 	        Alias /w/images/ /var/www/vhosts/urog.org/subdomains/wikipedia/httpdocs/w/images/
[11:05:59] 	sorry for the amount of text
[11:06:18] 	03(mod) Change SITENAME and add namespace alias on Ukrainian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18781  (10Ahonc.ua)
[11:06:56] 	Hmm you shouldn't need aliases for /w/skins or w/images
[11:07:01] 	ok
[11:07:38] 	anything else?
[11:07:57] 	Try changing Alias /wiki/ to Alias /wiki
[11:08:31] 	If this is in httpd.conf or something (as opposed to .htaccess), you may need to restart Apache for it to take effect
[11:08:49] 	just a sec
[11:09:22] 	it's httpd.include which can be found in /var/www/vhosts/urog.org/conf
[11:09:56] 	all the domains got their own httpd.include file with the necessary info/purposes for every command etc
[11:10:31] 	ok, this works so far, but the css doesn't get in effect
[11:10:44] 	it looks like plain text on html
[11:13:13] 	Roan, got any idea what might be the problem for the layout?
[11:13:26] 	Looking at it
[11:13:56] 	are these correct:
[11:14:14] 	$wgStylePath = "/w/skins/"; and $wgLogo = "{$wgStylePath}/common/images/logo.png";
[11:14:28] 	Hmm
[11:14:30] 	http://wikipedia.urog.org/w/skins/common/shared.css
[11:14:32] 	404
[11:14:38] 	lol
[11:15:18] 	Please make sure that that file exists and is reachable
[11:15:43] 	it's reachable, coz it worked the first time though
[11:16:08] 	I got chmod 644 on /skins
[11:16:29] 	03ialex * r52235 10/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): svn:eol-style
[11:17:20] 	Probably because you removed their aliases
[11:17:38] 	Apparently you do need aliases for skins and images, but I don't see why
[11:17:52] 	hmm that's odd
[11:18:20] 	It does get /w right because I can reach /w/api.php
[11:18:53] 	What's the chmod on /w
[11:19:09] 	Oh wait, 644 on /skins should probably be 755
[11:19:11] 	755
[11:19:27] 	aah, i'll change it
[11:20:22] 	03(NEW) Api: Parse Module does not display sections on pages with missing references-Tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19323 major; Normal; MediaWiki: API; (bugreporter)
[11:21:56] 	nope, still nothing
[11:23:14] 	Is skins/common also 755?
[11:23:34] 	yes, every directory and file uses chmod 755 now under /skins
[11:23:54] 	how do i apply apache authtype etc to a path like index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&type=signup
[11:24:13] 	i want to limit the account creation page to only work for people who can get past .htaccess but only that page
[11:24:44] 	btw Roan, do I need the .htaccess file on my server?
[11:24:45] 	UROGblackwolf: Maybe check your Apache error.log to see what goes wrong?
[11:25:04] 	UROGblackwolf: If you do all config elsewhere, no
[11:25:24] 	Try to look up the line referring to the 404 in error.log and see which path it tried to grab
[11:26:03] 	Ogg: just FYI, there are many ways to reach the signup
[11:26:49] 	Roan, where do I find the Apache error.log?
[11:27:02] 	index.php?title=Special:UserLogin/signup for example, and depending on any prettyURL schema: index.php/Special:UserLogin/signup  /wiki/Special:UserLogin?type=signup  /wiki/Special:UserLogin/signup  etc
[11:27:03] 	 /var/log/apache2/error.log usually
[11:27:34] 	(not to mention the API signup), so restricting signup access by URL blocking is a bit futile
[11:28:10] 	Roan, that's a massive file ^^
[11:28:37] 	I know
[11:28:43] 	It contains timestamps though
[11:28:44] 	Splarka what do you recommend
[11:29:09] 	The easiest way is to try to go to http://wikipedia.urog.org/w/skins/common/shared.css and then read the last entry
[11:29:20] 	Oog: not sure, possibly create accounts manually, possibly an authorization extension to create the counts externally (and thereby easily blockable with .htaccess)
[11:29:32] 	Cause after visiting that link the 404 for shared.css should be the last line in error.log
[11:29:32] 	03(mod) Change SITENAME and add namespace alias on Ukrainian Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18781  (10Ahonc.ua)
[11:30:02] 	Roan, what last entry?
[11:30:34] 	UROGblackwolf: The last line in error.log
[11:31:27] 	03(NEW) Abuse filter sometimes takes multiple consecutive edits in stead of single edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19324 minor; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (od_mishehu)
[11:33:10] 	any fast commands in VIM to get in the bottom of the list?
[11:35:24] 	Roan > private
[11:38:06] 	Roan, I'll come back later... gotta do some other thing atm
[11:38:10] 	bbl
[11:42:22] 	03(mod) I'd like to change name on the Huvudsida-page into Hem as in Home, but I don't have the rights to do so. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19317  (10kristoffer.grundstrom1983)
[11:44:05] 	03(mod) Review-Button on watchlist after moving page to a ns without flagged version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19254  (10bugreporter)
[12:00:19] 	Hi, is it possible to change user permissions that way, that I can allow the users to register but then can only edit/create pages if I as an admin allow them to?
[12:07:38] 	duelle: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights
[12:08:47] 	Splarka, I read there already but I didn't find a possibility to 'activate' users manually
[12:09:49] 	duelle: okay, do someththing like this: http://p.defau.lt/?2npjFPKRnlbdZDnn5gX54w
[12:10:33] 	and make sure you are a bureaucrat, then you can promote them to editor via Special:Userrights
[12:12:12] 	Currently there are the default groups only - users and verified users. I am the sysop of that wiki
[12:12:14] 	you could also promote some to sysop if you want to trust them to make more editors, by giving sysops the ability just to add/remove editors:  $wgAddGroups['sysop'] = array( 'editor' ); $wgRemoveGroups['sysop'] = array( 'editor' ); 
[12:13:05] 	duelle: right, so you have to override the defaults in your LocalSettings.php, as per the example
[12:13:44] 	which means removing 'edit' right (among other things) from '*' and 'user' groups , and giving it to 'editor' group
[12:14:06] 	Ok, thanks a lot so far... I'll try to set it up this was... How can I create usergroups myself?
[12:14:07] 	but leaving 'createaccount' on '*', but with it all they can do is set preferences
[12:14:18] 	duelle: you create them simply by giving them some rights
[12:14:22] 	$wgGroupPermissions['editor']['edit']             = true;
[12:14:33] 	will create an 'editor' group in Special:UserRights
[12:14:54] 	you helped me a lot - thank you :) I'll check if it works the way I'd like to^
[12:15:43] 	k, refer to the help page for more details
[12:41:34] 	03ialex * r52236 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/ (15 files): (log message trimmed)
[12:41:34] 	Big changes to OpenID extension:
[12:41:34] 	* Removed Special:OpenIDFinish, merged in Special:OpenIDLogin
[12:41:34] 	* removed unused methods in SpecialOpenID class
[12:41:34] 	* (bug 17632) Multiple URLs for an user is now supported, requires schema change (patch included in patch-uoi_user-not-unique.sql)
[12:41:38] 	* Added URLs list on Special:Preferences
[12:41:40] 	* (bug 18934) User created by OpenID are now logged in user creation log
[12:42:24] 	03(FIXED) Support multiple OpenID URLs for a user - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17632  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[12:42:35] 	03(mod) User's email is not being confirmed when updated from OpenID attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17634  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[12:43:14] 	03(mod) Make overriding personal settings from OpenID more granular - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17660  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[12:43:36] 	03(FIXED) new user created by OpenID does not appear in user creation log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18934  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[12:43:51] 	03(FIXED) User's email is not being confirmed when updated from OpenID attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17634  (10alex.emsenhuber)
[12:44:06] 	Hello, I have problems whit Securepoll. Help
[12:48:24] 	03ialex * r52237 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/OpenID.i18n.php: *sigh*
[12:52:37] 	03catrope * r52238 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/parser/Parser.php): (bug 19323) Calls to recursiveTagParse() overwrite ParserOptions::$mSections, causing the real section tree to be overwritten in some cases
[12:53:10] 	03(FIXED) Api: Parse Module does not display sections on pages with missing references-Tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19323  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[12:54:04] 	03(NEW) wfMsgExtForContent typo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19325 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticForms; (mediawiki-bugzilla)
[13:06:08] 	03ialex * r52239 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: marking "openid-urls-url" message as optional
[13:19:33] 	03(FIXED) wfMsgExtForContent typo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19325  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[13:52:43] 	hi, after the upgrade vom MW 1.12 to 1.15 I cannot add users. I'm logged in as WikiSysop, visit Special:Userlogin and it tells me that I don't have Permission to that page
[13:53:15] 	bsm: What happens if you go to [[Special:Userlogin/signup]] 
[13:53:16] 	?
[13:53:18] 	Its a closed wiki, so I disabled all anonymous functions
[13:54:26] 	RoanKattouw : it tells me that I don't have permission to create an account.
[13:54:41] 	Hmm
[13:54:53] 	Try to set $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['createaccount'] = true;
[13:57:05] 	this is really strange, I still get the message
[13:57:51] 	its in german, the full message is: "Du bist nicht berechtigt, ein Benutzerkonto zu erstellen. Grund: Du hast nicht die erforderliche Berechtigung f�r diese Aktion."
[14:03:13] 	Even after setting the grouppermissions thing?
[14:03:19] 	RoanKattouw : yes
[14:03:30] 	Hmm
[14:04:07] 	Silly question: are you sure you're a sysop? :)
[14:04:16] 	See if it shows a [delete] tab above a normal page
[14:05:48] 	hm interesting
[14:06:06] 	I'm also not allowed to delete pages
[14:06:44] 	anybody familiar with the wiki configuration extension - can it configure also the list of visible pages for anonymous users?
[14:07:26] 	RoanKattouw : I'm in the sysop group, so I should be sysop, right?
[14:07:33] 	Yes
[14:08:50] 	how do you see you're in the sysop group?
[14:14:44] 	RoanKattouw Platonides foudn the problem, I use NamespacePermissions that cause the problem. sorry for bothering.
[14:15:46] 	I have a image at [File:foo.jpg] and I want that image to be place on the right side of the "Contents table" (the one that is autogenerated)
[14:16:10] 	how can I do this? there seems to be alot of space on the right hand side of the contents table
[14:16:24] 	03ashley * r52240 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Preferences.php: coding style tweaks
[14:16:32] 	rook2pawn: Use CSS maybe?
[14:16:53] 	Or JS
[14:17:15] 	I think you're gonna need JS to insert it after the TOC
[14:17:58] 	actually if you enter it just after the into and align to the right it should display it there
[14:19:20] 	http://wiki.rook2pawn.com/Tutorials:Sockets
[14:19:56] 	I put a 
[[file:foo.jpg]]
 just guessing, but I have a feeling its totally incorrect
[14:21:18] 	How do i "wiki-align" it to the right? or did i do it correctly?
[14:21:24] 	is there a standard way to achieve it?
[14:22:40] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images#Alignment
[14:24:23] 	ah, ty.
[14:24:50] 	hmm, I wonder...do we really need skins/Skin.sample? it's quite silly and outdated (referring to SkinPHPTal.sample file, which no longer exists)
[14:24:52] 	04(REOPENED) new user created by OpenID does not appear in user creation log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18934  +comment (10fredd-e)
[14:26:41] 	ashley: file a bug and ask for it to be removed then
[14:27:31] 	I can do that myself :P I was just asking for other people's thoughts on removing it :-)
[14:29:45] 	03catrope * r52241 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiParse.php: API: Make usage of the parser cache in action=parse actually work; was broken since its introduction
[14:30:35] 	03(mod) Creation of 'autoreviewer" usergroup on en.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19309  (10Ruslik00)
[14:34:32] 	03catrope * r52242 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/NavigableTOC/ (ISSUES NavigableTOC.hooks.php NavigableTOC.js): 
[14:34:32] 	NavigableTOC:
[14:34:32] 	* Make stuff work for section edits: unlink unusable links and adjust the
[14:34:32] 	offsets for the usable ones
[14:34:32] 	* Make stuff work on Linux, which seems to have 7x15 chars
[14:34:34] 	* Make hitting the parser cache actually work, similar to r52241
[14:34:38] 	* Add ISSUES file listing known issues
[14:40:19] 	03(mod) Creation of 'autoreviewer" usergroup on en.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19309  +comment (10p858snake)
[15:00:51] 	hello
[15:02:18] 	hello
[15:02:46] 	i have a quick question if anyone wants to help plz let me know
[15:03:10] 	ask
[15:03:16] 	Don't ask to ask.
[15:04:23] 	ok when i installed media  wiki each article is found with title= .com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page   rather then .com/wiki/Main_Page
[15:04:24] 	how come
[15:04:37] 	how do i change it so its  wiki/article
[15:04:47] 	!shorturl | wikihelpme 
[15:04:47] --mwbot--	wikihelpme: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem
[15:05:29] 	ty
[15:16:30] 	hi
[15:18:11] 	wikihelpme: Which URL are you visiting to get that message?
[15:24:45] 	i followed the steps provided by   and its not working i get and url error
[15:27:08] 	once i added RewriteEngine On
[15:27:09] 	RewriteRule ^wiki/(.*)$ /w/index.php?title=$1 [PT,L,QSA]
[15:27:09] 	RewriteRule ^wiki/*$ /w/index.php [L,QSA]
[15:27:09] 	RewriteRule ^/*$ /w/index.php [L,QSA]
[15:27:18] 	my whole website stoped working
[15:28:13] 	anyone know whats up?
[15:31:45] 	wikihelpme: Can you give us a link to your wiki?
[15:35:37] 	http://www.pidbaq.com/w/Main_Page
[15:35:54] 	i installed wiki media sub directory .wiki
[15:36:04] 	./wiki
[15:36:11] 	You should rename /wiki to /w
[15:36:26] 	kk one sec
[15:37:24] 	ok did
[15:37:37] 	now its
[15:37:41] 	http://www.pidbaq.com/wiki/Main_Page
[15:37:43] 	it redirect there
[15:37:47] 	but stil a not found
[15:39:33] 	nvm it worked ty 
[15:39:42] 	-.-
[15:40:06] 	anyways ty for ur time
[15:40:51] 	couldn't of done it with out the help
[15:56:49] 	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/2/26/InlineScripts_screenshot_1.png
[16:03:43] 	03demon * r52243 10/branches/maintenance-work/maintenance/ (5 files): 
[16:03:43] 	* Port nukePage (delete .inc), nukeNS, deleteDefaultMessages
[16:03:43] 	* Fix parse error in Maintenance.
[16:11:41] 	03dale * r52244 10/branches/new-upload/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (4 files in 3 dirs): fixed firefogg script loader usage (bug was outputting fresh version)
[16:21:29] 	hihi
[16:21:40] 	what is the canonical perm for config dir after install?
[16:21:57] 	doesn't matter, as nothing uses that directory
[16:22:28] 	flyingparchment: I like to keep a copy of LocalSettings.php there
[16:22:33] 	why?
[16:22:36] 	so I dont want it to be readable...
[16:22:39] 	for reference
[16:22:43] 	then make it not readable
[16:24:34] 	sorry, I'm confused as usual - I think its fine. Thanks for suggestions.
[16:25:53] 	flyingparchment: You made a suggestion?
[16:26:15] 	well, i suggested that if a file shouldn't be readable, he could make it not readable
[16:26:28] 	<_< >_>
[16:28:01] 	is there some way to benchmark which templates on a page rendering take the most time?
[16:57:28] 	I'm back Roan, so if you could help me I would be appreciated
[17:00:27] 	hmm.. anyone who could continue where Roan ended with my issue on to get the CSS working on the layout?
[17:05:29] 	03(mod) I'd like to change name on the Huvudsida-page into Hem as in Home, but I don't have the rights to do so. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19317  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[17:06:20] 	I got my mediawiki working so far that I get the text shown up as plain text on html, but now I need to get the shared.css file to appear correctly so that the layout would look more like normal, how to?
[17:07:16] 	03(mod) Show the active users mentioned in Special:Statistics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15456  +comment (10danny.leinad)
[17:12:03] 	wikibugs: check out the files: /languages/Language.php and /languages/messages/MessagesSv.php to find out the lines you want to convert to proper translation.. I'm not sure if that's what you're looking for, but it might be either of these two files that needs to be edited
[17:18:00] 	03(mod) I'd like to change name on the Huvudsida-page into Hem as in Home, but I don't have the rights to do so. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19317  (10Platonides)
[17:21:25] 	wikibugs: download the file > open it with Dreamweaver > edit > save > upload the file back and overwrite the current on the server
[17:25:47] 	hmm.. seems like everyone's sleeping or afk ^^
[17:25:55] 	UROGblackwolf: wikibugs is a bot only
[17:26:02] 	aah
[17:26:03] 	reporting changes on Bugzilla
[17:26:09] 	ok
[17:26:29] 	Ray, can you help me on my issue to get the shared.css file work?
[17:27:31] 	UROGblackwolf: sorry, not time at the moment :(
[17:28:48] 	Roan?
[17:28:56] 	Yeah
[17:29:05] 	I'm sorry, I don't really know how to help you
[17:29:06] 	can we continue? :P
[17:29:24] 	For some weird reason your web server won't serve /w/skins/common/shared.css when you request it
[17:29:32] 	So check that it exists
[17:29:46] 	it exists
[17:29:51] 	And if it does, read the last few lines of /var/log/apache2/error.log to find out where it's trying to find it
[17:33:33] 	searching, searching...
[17:37:09] 	hi
[17:43:05] 	Roan > private
[18:04:28] 	how do I get log in to work, due it shows 404 Not Found - The requested document was not found on this server. ?
[18:06:21] 	03gerardm * r52245 10/trunk/testing/util/environment/ (Env_Extensions Environment Environment_install.py): First pass at making the environment installer in python
[18:06:42] 	this is my address to log in: /w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&returnto=Main_Page according to the site atm while the website shows /wiki/Main_Page after typing the domain on the address bar on the browser. anyone who knows a solution?
[18:23:12] 	03siebrand * r52246 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/OpenID.i18n.php: Use message for button instead of hard coded text in 'openiddelete-text'
[18:26:42] 	03ashley * r52247 10/trunk/phase3/includes/HTMLForm.php: coding style tweaks
[18:45:47] 	03(NEW) MySQL errors when visiting Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19326 major; Normal; Wikimedia: wikibugs; (francisdinh)
[18:46:04] 	question: how to add stuff to the edit toolbar?
[18:47:55] 	03(NEW) "Review this revision" is shown in a diff for different pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19327 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (umherirrender_de.wp)
[18:49:00] 	I'd like the redirect button in particular
[18:50:29] 	03(mod) "Review this revision" is shown in a diff with different pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19327  summary (10umherirrender_de.wp)
[18:50:57] 	03siebrand * r52248 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialActiveusers.php: Allow use of GENDER in 'listusers-blocked'
[18:54:13] 	14(INVALID) MySQL errors when visiting Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19326  +comment (10siebrand)
[19:01:53] 	03catrope * r52249 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/NavigableTOC/ (ISSUES NavigableTOC.hooks.php NavigableTOC.js): NavigableTOC: Update TOC to reflect submitted wikitext on preview, and set the right ParserOptions so we hit the parser cache right.
[19:02:05] 	how do I make Short URL of /w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&returnto=Main_Page ? do I have to make another "Alias" in the httpd file?
[19:02:22] 	That isn't really possible.
[19:02:38] 	well, what to do then?
[19:02:48] 	You can make it /wiki/Special:UserLogin?returnto=Main_Page
[19:03:00] 	how?
[19:03:31] 	Sorry I don't remember.
[19:03:40] 	great :/
[19:03:44] 	UROGblackwolf: The first URL is 404ing for you, right?
[19:04:03] 	not anymore, if you mean Main_Page?
[19:04:08] 	No, Userlogin
[19:04:21] 	yeah, that's the one
[19:05:18] 	Roan: any idea what it might be that makes it wrong?
[19:05:31] 	It seems it can't find /w/index.php ^^
[19:05:58] 	03(mod) Creation of "autopatroller" usergroup on en.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19309  summary; +comment (10jake)
[19:06:00] 	but all the Aliases are correct ^^
[19:06:27] 	What are your aliases again? (in pastebin please)
[19:07:14] 	03(mod) $wgFlaggedRevsPatrolNamespaces has no effect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19241  (10gtisza)
[19:08:09] 	Alias /w/index.php , /wiki , /index.php from /var/www/vhosts/urog.org/subdomains/wikipedia/httpdocs/w/index.php
[19:08:38] 	Can you make sure that that file exists?
[19:08:46] 	03(mod) new user created by OpenID does not appear in user creation log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18934  (10alex.emsenhuber)
[19:08:47] 	they exists
[19:08:55] 	as shared.css did too
[19:09:03] 	Yeah
[19:09:47] 	does it have something to do with the ?
[19:09:52] 	Possibly
[19:10:09] 	Also, in which order do you have those aliases?
[19:11:22] 	It's probably best if you pastebinned all your Aliases with relevant context such as the  you mentioned
[19:11:23] 	check our room Roan
[19:12:12] 	03(mod) Add personal Common.css & Common.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10183  +comment (10chinchi29)
[19:34:01] 	Raymond_afk da?
[19:50:09] 	any idea what "from within function "IndexPager::reallyDoQuery (LogPager)". MySQL returned error "1176: Key 'ls_field_val' doesn't exist in table 'log_search' (localhost)"."
[19:50:13] 	means?
[19:53:52] 	Jake_Wartenberg: seems that you have a missing index on that table
[19:55:42] 	03(NEW) Could Wikibooks fy: get its translated logo activated? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19328 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (aliter)
[19:56:00] 	ialex: how would I go about rectifying that?\
[19:57:07] 	Jake_Wartenberg: can you do "SHOW CREATE TABLE log_search;" on your database and paste the result in http://dpaste.org ?
[19:57:23] 	k
[19:58:39] 	03(mod) set $wgLogo for fywikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19328  summary; +comment (10mike.lifeguard)
[20:03:53] 	03rainman * r52250 10/branches/lucene-search-2.1/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
[20:03:53] 	Suggest stuffs:
[20:03:53] 	* don't try to change words that are likely valid words when searching in namespaces with few words
[20:03:53] 	* add some stubs for some vowel deletion, although it's not very clear how beneficial this will be
[20:06:37] 	03sergeychernyshev * r52251 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/ (openid_table.sql patch-uoi_user-not-unique.sql): Added /*$wgDBprefix*/ to non-unique index code.
[20:16:15] 	who broke links in code review?
[20:16:18] 	how can I make interwikis like [[w:pl:Some article]] working? I wan't the given example to send to pl.wiki, and for example when I make it [[w:en:Something]] - to en.wiki
[20:23:40] 	sq7obj http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interwiki
[20:24:44] 	is it possible to hide file information on file pages - like, the File history and File links?
[20:24:48] *Nikerabbit 	is sad
[20:25:26] 	Majorly you could probably using CSS black arts
[20:25:29] 	Majorly: yes and no
[20:25:31] 	Majorly: With CSS, sure. You can hide pretty easily, restricting is much harder.
[20:25:44] 	restricting?
[20:26:11] 	The data will still be there, just not directly visible. If you want to restrict or remove the data entirely, it's a different thing.
[20:26:31] 	no I just want it hidden
[20:26:37] 	it's unfriendly looking
[20:26:47] 	CSS, then. :-)
[20:26:51] 	ok...
[20:26:57] 	what do I do
[20:27:05] 	Go to a page where you want the data.
[20:27:14] 	View its page source and find the appropriate classes / ids.
[20:27:35] 	And then modify Common.css or .css with the appropriate display:none; code.
[20:27:36] 	I don't want the data.
[20:27:37] 	I want it hidden
[20:27:48] 	Want the data hidden. *
[20:27:54] *Annemarie 	needs food.
[20:28:00] 	fail
[20:29:20] 	You're talking about the links at the top?
[20:29:58] 	the links, upload details, and file links
[20:30:03] 	at the bottom
[20:30:13] 	Woot. Turns out you *can* hack the SQL search module into giving you interwiki results: http://community.livejournal.com/wikifur/77839.html
[20:31:09] 	I need a hint with the code
[20:31:15] 	I don't know css from php
[20:31:21] 	
[20:31:21] 	

[20:31:28] 	So you'd do something like ...
[20:31:48] 	GreenReaper, you sure this is sql search?
[20:31:52] 	h2#filelinks, div#mw-imagepage-section-linkstoimage {display:none;}
[20:32:12] 	rainman-sr: Yes, I'm sure. I patched the necessary code myself.
[20:32:19] 	That would hide the == File links == section completely.
[20:32:34] 	GreenReaper, care to post a patch?
[20:33:06] 	Where would you like it? I can't really imagine it getting into the main code so I was hesitant to post a bug.
[20:33:08] 	ok, now the file history, which is more important
[20:33:15] 	as it's uglier and unfriendly looking
[20:33:35] 	Platonides: well, I don't want to add new interwiki for each language - I would like set interwiki w:, and send to language which is next to w: - you know what I mean?
[20:33:55] 	
File history

[20:33:56] 	

[20:33:56] 	It *is* rather a hack, designed only for our non-English . But it should be usable for that purposeby others with some modification.
[20:34:02] 	Same principal.
[20:34:05] 	*for our non-English wikis to search English
[20:34:07] 	Principle. 
[20:34:34] *Annemarie 	goes to shower.
[20:35:16] 	it only gets rid of the header though
[20:35:18] 	not the content
[20:36:05] 	Is your wiki public?
[20:36:15] 	yes
[20:36:43] 	Got a link?
[20:36:47] 	which is why it needs to be as user friendly as possible
[20:36:55] 	why do you need a link
[20:37:05] 	wow someone's defensive
[20:37:12] 	To see if you're doing it wrong?
[20:37:46] 	Debugging via IRC isn't really my idea of fun.
[20:38:06] 	h2#filelinks, div#mw-imagepage-section-linkstoimage {display:none;}
[20:38:07] 	h2#filehistory, div#mw-imagepage-section-filehistory {display:none;}
[20:38:13] 	that's all I've added
[20:38:50] *rainman-sr 	wonders where did werdna disappear
[20:39:18] 	rainman-sr: http://pool.wikifur.com/SpecialSearch.php.patch and http://pool.wikifur.com/SearchMySQL.php.patch
[20:39:51] 	note that it uses en as the interwiki but entest to actually search, that is specific to our installation (we haven't yet setup the en database).
[20:39:55] 	Majorly: And only the headers went away?
[20:40:13] 	yep
[20:40:32] 	also note that you will have to grant SELECT rights on page and searchindex tables of the en/entest database to the database user(s) concerned, if they do not already have access.
[20:40:44] 	Did you check the page source for the 
 ?
[20:41:56] 	there doesn't seem to be one for File History
[20:41:58] 	GreenReaper, i see, this would need clean-up in order to make it more generic and configurable
[20:42:09] 	Majorly: What version of MediaWiki are you running?
[20:42:16] 	1.15
[20:43:01] 	rainman-sr: I'm sort of here, if you ping me with something I'll get around to it
[20:43:21] 	1.15 should have the selectors.
[20:43:54] 	werdna, i see, i want to try something out... lemme paste it for you
[20:44:07] 	why I am not getting follow-up mails from code review... am I supposed to?
[20:44:26] 	Nikerabbit: Yes, you should be. I think someone broke it. :-/
[20:44:37] 	rainman-sr: Yes, I agree. It was basically me trying to see if I could adapt the lucene interwiki functionality without actually having lucene. And I did, but only within our restricted requirements.
[20:44:37] 	gosh
[20:44:39] 	Majorly: Code works fine on test.wikipedia.og
[20:44:40] 	The bit about wfExpandSearch in SpecialSearch is to cope with interwiki mappings like en => '//en.wikifur.com/wiki/$1' (no http:) and requires https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19270 to work properly for that purpose
[20:44:41] 	Nikerabbit: do you have an email address set and confirmed?
[20:44:41] 	org
[20:44:47] 	show me
[20:44:52] 	werdna: Your e-mail address was authenticated on 14 April 2006 at 19:34.
[20:45:01] 	http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MZMcBride/monobook.css
[20:45:15] 	and I have never receive any mail from it
[20:45:19] 	http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random/file
[20:45:41] 	Nikerabbit: Your commit name is attached to your wiki account?
[20:45:51] 	(because parse_url doesn't work without http:)
[20:46:23] 	Annemarie: sure it is
[20:47:26] 	Annemarie: I checked that
[20:47:34] 	rainman-sr: make sure you ping me, I'm mostly putting away washing
[20:47:42] 	is there bug open?
[20:47:48] 	curious
[20:47:56] 	maybe it's something else on my css
[20:48:18] 	if not, can someone file one... if it had better chance of getting fixed than my bugs :)
[20:49:03] 	hi
[20:49:22] 	May someone take a look this weird error message please:
[20:49:35] 	there are no colours on my css file, unlike on test wiki
[20:49:41] 	http://tr.pardus-wiki.org/Okular
[20:49:56] 	ffs
[20:50:15] 	RastanX: are you using short urls in the domain root?
[20:50:16] 	Majorly: A symptom of not installing an extension. Not related to your current issue.
[20:50:17] 	I cleared the entire css file, apart from the new code, and it's still not working
[20:50:34] 	werdna, do this to lucene.php: http://pastebin.com/m4e8b2789 it should redirect the 
[20:50:44] 	Got a link to the site?
[20:50:47] 	mwsuggest stuff to lucene backend
[20:51:13] 	03catrope * r52252 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/NavigableTOC/NavigableTOC.js: NavigableTOC: Check for visibility the right way
[20:51:22] 	Nikerabbit: I don't know what you mean exactly..
[20:51:34] 	RastanX: my.domain.org/Article_name_goes_here
[20:51:45] 	Nikerabbit:  Oh yes..
[20:51:55] 	RastanX: then, don't
[20:51:56] 	Nikerabbit: via .htaccess
[20:52:20] 	but you seem to have worse problems at the moment: Fatal error: Call to undefined method FSRepo::getMemcKey() in /var/www/pardus-wiki.org/meta/includes/filerepo/FileRepo.php on line 534
[20:52:36] 	03ialex * r52253 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/SpecialOpenIDLogin.body.php: fix E_ERROR, forgot to change this
[20:52:59] 	1.15.0 shipped with that bug, I think . . . upgrading to the latest REL1_15 branch code should hopefully fix it.
[20:53:00] 	Nikerabbit: We have build all of site via short urls
[20:53:41] 	RastanX: yes... and you know we recommended *against* using that method?
[20:54:17] 	Nikerabbit: How can we pass index.php? thing then ?
[20:54:45] 	Nikerabbit: We can't upload any images also..
[20:54:58] 	I'm not sure if it is related
[20:55:05] 	but we have quite good documentation at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL
[20:55:36] 	That problem did not occur while using 1.14
[20:56:02] 	first make sure it is not caused by your short url schema
[20:57:15] 	Nikerabbit: Those lines in FileRepo.php were added during 1.14 - 1.15 stage
[20:57:32] 	rainman-sr: I hope I did that right
[20:57:33] 	RastanX: you probably want this patch: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/51764
[20:58:09] 	Hey, I'm using an external auth with MediaWiki to authenticate using a different database by extending AuthPlugin, but the usernames need to be munged before they go into Mediawiki.  When a user logs out of MW, then back in the username in the log in box is the munged MW one.  Can I make it the username they used to login with?
[20:59:11] 	Nikerabbit: Maybe this is what I've looking for
[20:59:11] 	puck: I guess it takes it from the cookie
[20:59:25] 	Nikerabbit: I'm applying it now..
[20:59:30] 	Nikerabbit:  Yeah, that seems to be the case
[21:00:44] 	I wonder if I need to store the munged username in the external database
[21:01:47] 	Nikerabbit: It seems I must reverse this patch
[21:02:01] 	puck: I have no opinion on what specific way it should be
[21:02:10] 	RastanX: nope, it just means that you already have it
[21:03:08] 	Nikerabbit: But my problem is related with this code..
[21:03:15] 	hmm
[21:03:24] 	but you shouldn't have it.. if you are using 1.15 stable
[21:04:00] 	Nikerabbit: Maybe you have to know.. my all subdomains are symbolic link to single installation
[21:04:05] 	Nikerabbit, 1.15 stable seems to have a fatal error for a lot of people.
[21:04:09] 	I'm not sure exactly how many.
[21:04:18] 	I backported a patch to REL1_15 that seemed to fix it for one guy.
[21:05:23] 	Nikerabbit: I'm parsing db tables from url in LocalSettings.php
[21:05:37] 	Simetrical: but this one doesn't seem to be that one
[21:05:57] 	Fatal errors with getMemcKey() being undefined?
[21:06:10] 	yes
[21:06:12] 	Call to undefined method FSRepo::getMemcKey()
[21:06:40] 	there is 52009 and 51764
[21:07:26] 	and the latter should fix it, no?
[21:07:43] 	afk
[21:07:51] 	Looks likely.
[21:11:45] 	Nikerabbit: I applied patch
[21:11:59] 	Nikerabbit: but Error message changed..
[21:12:27] 	Nikerabbit: Fatal error: Call to undefined method FSRepo::getArticleID() in ....
[21:13:48] 	03siebrand * r52254 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialActiveusers.php: Allow use of GENDER in 'activeusers-count'
[21:17:49] 	hm
[21:18:06] 	03catrope * r52255 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/NavigableTOC/ISSUES: NavigableTOC: Fixes in ISSUES file
[21:18:08] 	is there a way to hide the default table on a file page
[21:19:20] 	Majorly_: TOC you mean, or something else?
[21:19:32] 	the table showing who uploaded
[21:19:49] 	Majorly_: using css if it has a tag, I guess.
[21:19:59] 	well yes
[21:20:01] 	I know that
[21:20:25] 	Majorly_: then what are you asking more specifically?
[21:20:30] 	if I wanted to hide 
[21:20:36] 	what would I add to the css file
[21:21:03] 	hmm, lemme check
[21:21:05] 	without -selected
[21:21:29] 	Nikerabbit: I got same error while uploading image
[21:22:00] 	 is the one
[21:22:51] 	filehistory { display: none;
[21:23:00] 	that'll work?
[21:23:06] 	think so.
[21:23:15] 	add a closing }
[21:24:04] 	doesn't work
[21:24:18] 	aren't you supposed to show that it's a table
[21:26:18] 	Majorly: this works: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Siebrand/monobook.css
[21:26:23] 	table.filehistory { display: none; }
[21:26:47] 	it does indeed
[21:26:50] 	03robin * r52256 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/EditToolbar.i18n.php: Remove custom en-wp template
[21:26:51] 	thank you!
[21:27:18] 	Majorly: guess you could also suppress the whole h2 filehistory
[21:27:32] 	perhaps
[21:27:42] 	03(mod) Creation of "autopatroller" usergroup on en.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19309  +comment (10public)
[21:27:44] 	nothing seems to work for me though
[21:28:05] 	it only removes the header
[21:28:40] 	Howdy, all -- I'm a brand-new mediawiki admin, and I have a problem getting math to work. The error I get is:
[21:28:43] 	Failed to parse (PNG conversion failed; check for correct installation of latex, dvips, gs, and convert): 2
[21:28:47] 	Majorly: yeah, playing with that too.
[21:29:08] 	I checked that latex, dvips, gs, and convert are all installed.
[21:29:34] 	In my settings, I have $wgEnableUploads = true; $wgUseTeX = true; $wgTexvc = "/usr/bin/texvc";
[21:30:06] 	Is there a log file where I could find a more specific error message? I don't know how to debug this.
[21:31:02] 	03(mod) Creation of "autopatroller" usergroup on en.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19309  +comment (10agarrett)
[21:31:27] 	has somebody made a template syntax error checker?
[21:32:11] 	03catrope * r52257 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/EditToolbar.i18n.php: Revert r52256: work is being done to make this stuff customizable per-wiki, but until then please don't mess with it.
[21:32:20] 	03ialex * r52258 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/ (3 files): PerSergey Chernyshev's comment on r52236 (and fix for that revision): add SpecialOpenID::scriptUrl() back, should fix some errors with short urls enabled
[21:39:21] 	RoanKattouw_away: how do you mean? every MediaWiki message is customisable per-wiki ({{reflist)) is customisation)
[21:42:42] 	SPQRobin: I know, but the whole thing is gonna be done differently to also allow for adding messages and stuff
[21:43:09] 	In fact, even having a message mentioning  is custom because it's provided by another extension that not all wikis have
[21:44:08] 	Anyway, Trevor's working on doing this completely differently, so it's probably best if people don't start tweaking the existing system that's doomed to be replaced anyway
[21:44:45] 	03daniel * r52259 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWordIntegrator/src/test/java/de/brightbyte/wikiword/integrator/ (6 files): db unit testing improvements
[21:45:00] 	03daniel * r52260 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWordIntegrator/src/main/java/de/brightbyte/wikiword/integrator/ (6 files in 4 dirs): db unit testing improvements
[21:45:03] 	I see
[21:47:16] 	03(NEW) Can't upload image after upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19329 critical; Normal; MediaWiki: File/Repo; (taner)
[21:48:22] 	...critical of course
[21:51:47] 	zocky, I hear that you have developed an extension which can benchmark template/page rendering usage?
[21:54:44] 	03(mod) Creation of "autopatroller" usergroup on en.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19309  (10public)
[21:55:03] 	I think I may have figured it out. Latex is installed, but doesn't run properly.
[21:55:21] 	Bugzilla sniping is fun.
[21:55:25] 	lch, yes
[21:56:30] 	zocky, can you show me how to use it?
[21:57:02] 	on your wiki?
[21:57:07] 	yes
[21:57:29] 	let me check if I already made it a standalone extension or I just intended to :)
[21:57:30] 	I think that I have some inefficient templates
[21:57:43] 	that I'd needed to get rid of or improve
[21:58:41] 	03(mod) Can't upload image after upgrading to 1.15 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19329  (10taner)
[22:00:17] 	lch, ah, I checked.. it can't be made a standalone extension, you have to hack the parser
[22:01:02] 	how much hacking is involved?
[22:01:13] 	is there some sensible patch that can be applied?
[22:01:16] 	very little, just adding two hook calls
[22:02:16] 	siebrand: any luck?
[22:02:16] 	that doesn't sound that bad to me :)
[22:02:19] 	I'm not doing anything important atm, so I might as well invest half an hour into making this thing finally useful for somebody else than me
[22:02:34] 	i'll fix up the code a bit, and write instructions for hacking parser.php and post it somewhere
[22:03:24] 	eww
[22:03:45] 	zocky: why don't you contribute it as a patch back to core?
[22:04:22] 	werdna, cause I'm too lazy to learn how to do that properly
[22:04:29] 	werdna: tim when asked sorta didn't want the hooks
[22:04:48] 	Splarka, and I can see why
[22:04:50] 	zocky, I'd appreciate that
[22:04:56] 	(mostly because they were general purpose hooks where they shouldn't be, rather than profiling hooks)
[22:05:39] 	zocky: what were they called again? beforebracesubstitution and afterbracesubstitution?
[22:05:44] 	they're a little bit of overhead wasted very many times on a complex page, it's not an optimal place to put a hook
[22:05:45] 	yes
[22:06:39] 	werdna: any ideas how to do it "proper"? heh, domas seemed interested in the ability to stab individual templates and their authors based on profiles
[22:10:26] 	well, if ($wgUseProfiler) { wfRunHook(...) } would be better than just calling it
[22:10:39] 	zocky, I'll get to sleep, but please continue with the polishing and instructions, or I'll nag you later about it... ;)
[22:10:46] 	ok
[22:10:56] 	I'll find a link on your site then?
[22:11:37] 	thanks...
[22:12:23] 	03rainman * r52261 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialSearch.php: Preserve formatting even when create article link is absent
[22:15:52] 	03rainman * r52262 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialSearch.php: Follow-up for r52261, some in-progress stuff sneaked in.
[22:17:30] 	heh, zocky: without profiling would that have any significant overhead? could someone still abuse it for non-profiling purposes to say, make a custom brace substitution extension simply by instructing users to force profiling 100% of the time?
[22:18:00] 	Hey guys
[22:18:00] 	03(mod) Can't upload image after upgrading to 1.15 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19329  (10taner)
[22:18:31] 	Is there any way to stop mediawiki from formatting lines?
[22:18:59] 	for example, if there is a poem, I just want to copy it in the editing box, and press save, but that would make it all into one continous line
[22:19:11] 	Splarka, sure, you could also call it $wgUseBraceSubstitutionHooks
[22:19:45] 	waterman: There's a poem extension.
[22:19:47] 	Splarka, you don't really care if somebody "abuses" it for that on their wiki. I'm sure I abuse it somewhere :)
[22:19:56] 	heh
[22:19:56] 	Or you can add a space to the beginning of each line.
[22:20:01] 	Or end each line with 
.
[22:20:03] *GreenReaper 	abuses everything.
[22:20:18] 	well, earlier, I chose to go with 

[22:20:19] 	but
[22:20:32] 	I am editing massive number of poems
[22:20:41] 	so it would take forever to put those in
[22:20:49] 	I'll take a look at the poem extension
[22:20:55] 	!e Poem
[22:20:55] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Poem
[22:21:01] 	thx
[22:21:24] 	zocky: maybe you should open a bug "Add profiling hooks for brace substitution, for template profiling", and submit your patch to that (and a link to your profiling extension), and pokle Tim to review it?
[22:21:52] *Splarka 	would like to see &forcetemplatetrace=1 on wmf
[22:22:14] 	i'll see how much time I can devote to it
[22:22:28] 	yay
[22:28:04] 	:(
[22:29:09] 	Annemarie, works perfect
[22:29:12] 	thanks so much
[22:29:27] 	:-)
[22:29:40] *Annemarie 	points out to Splarka that I wouldn't get grep credit for that one.
[22:30:55] 	bah, I just spent ten minutes debugging my trivial function registerHook, because I mistyped "UnknownAction"
[22:38:44] 	Annemarie: it averages out too, I get a lot of grep-miss thanks
[22:41:51] 	03siebrand * r52263 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (36 files): Localisation updates for core messages from translatewiki.net (2009-06-21 22:34 UTC)
[22:42:47] 	how to remove other crap from inage pages
[22:43:30] 	Majorly: how about this... what do you want to show?
[22:43:58] 	just the image and the two lines under it
[22:44:11] 	Size of this preview: 799 × 600 pixels
[22:44:12] 	Full resolution‎ (802 × 602 pixels, file size: 81 KB, MIME type: image/jpeg)
[22:44:14] 	or whatever
[22:45:09] 	
[22:45:14] 	so, like that div
[22:45:29] 	pretty much
[22:45:49] 	body.ns-6 #bodyContent > * {display:none;}
[22:45:55] 	body.ns-6 #bodyContent > .fullImageLink {display:block;}
[22:45:58] 	maybe
[22:46:26] 	you won't even have the 
 firstHeading
[22:46:34] 	that's fine
[22:46:42] 	or contentSub or siteSub
[22:46:49] 	or categories
[22:47:04] 	I'd prefer the image page wasn't there at all, but it's the default with galleries
[22:47:54] 	heh
[22:48:04] 	there's still some stuff under it
[22:48:07] 	javascript:void(appendCSS('body.ns-6 #bodyContent > * {display:none;} body.ns-6 #bodyContent > .fullImageLink {display:block;}'));
[22:48:07] 	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wiki.png
[22:48:08] 	wfm
[22:48:38] 	but of course ask again in an hour (for a fourth time) and someone else will suggest something totally different)
[22:48:55] 	03siebrand * r52264 10/trunk/extensions/ (80 files in 69 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-06-21 22:34 UTC)
[22:49:52] 	i'm still getting (Latest | Earliest) View (newer 50) (older 50) ( | | | | ) (Latest | Earliest) View (newer 50) (older 50) ( | | | | ) under it
[22:50:06] 	and the header is at the top, but that doesn't matter so much
[22:51:22] 	tagname or .classname or #idname will find 
[22:51:30] 	{display:none;} hides such
[22:51:37] 	view the source, find it, hide it, easy!
[22:52:02] 	body.ns-6 does it only on image pages
[22:52:20] 	also, i do want the source bit showing
[22:52:34] 	do you even want a wiki?
[22:52:54] 	wtf?
[22:53:17] 	yep
[22:53:24] 	it's not for any old person to edit - these image pages are unfriendly for visitors
[22:53:30] 	my wiki isn't editable
[22:53:30] 	wtf are you doing to the wiki, hiding any possible useful info about images?
[22:53:48] 	body.ns-6 * {display:none;}
[22:53:57] 	03siebrand * r52265 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (5 files): Localisation updates for core special page aliases from translatewiki.net
[22:54:08] 	I'm hiding it so the random "External link" "edit with an external editor" nonsense is hidden from people who don't know about it
[22:54:40] 	ok, I posted the template profiler to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TemplateProfiler , if anybody's interested
[22:54:42] 	again, I don't want it all hidden, some of my images have a source link
[22:56:32] 	the link should surely appear with fullimagelink there
[22:57:28] 	eww: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Monobook.js
[22:57:39] 	I still can't get rid of (Latest | Earliest) View (newer 50) (older 50) ( | | | | ) (Latest | Earliest) View (newer 50) (older 50) ( | | | | ) with display:none
[22:57:40] 	definitely not something that should be done via JS, and now someone wants it at mw.org?
[22:58:11] 	and that's the most user-unfriendly thing on the page imo
[22:58:22] 	logging and aggregating profiler results would likely be a useful feature
[22:58:22] 	Paging links are appearing when there's nothing to page?
[22:58:29] 	any problem with diff? http://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Vaglio/Boeing_B-52_Stratofortress&diff=next&oldid=24843811 at the bottom of the page there aren't the diff contents
[22:58:32] 	yes
[22:59:08] 	That's stupid.
[22:59:18] *Simetrical 	tests on trunk
[22:59:21] 	tell me about it
[22:59:30] 	03siebrand * r52266 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesDe.php MessagesMr.php MessagesRu.php): Localisation updates for core magic words from translatewiki.net
[23:01:10] 	now if it was possible to make images link to somewhere other than their description pages whilst in a gallery, I wouldn't have to do this! :)
[23:02:02] 	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/BeforeParserrenderImageGallery
[23:03:13] 	so what's that
[23:03:36] 	Melos: it wasn't added to the bottom, it was added one section higher, and it appears inside {{Cassetto|lavori in corso|...}}, is that like en.wp's Template:Hidden perchance?
[23:03:55] 	oh seems | problem
[23:04:53] 	I don't know how to configure that
[23:05:25] 	Majorly: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Extensions
[23:05:39] 	specifically: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Extensions#Writing_Extensions
[23:06:17] 	a hook is a place in the code whereby you can change the default behavior via included extension without hacking the source code
[23:06:28] 	Special:Log Hide/show Patrol deos not work on wmf preojects, the hide_patrol_log value is aleays empty and when set the message hide/show is the other way round. Can sb fix it in short notice?
[23:06:53] 	bear in mind I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing
[23:07:17] 	Majorly: short answer, it is possible but you'd need to write an extension to do it
[23:07:19] 	it sounds way beyond my ability
[23:07:26] 	indeed
[23:07:32] 	I think most things are possible
[23:07:33] 	Majorly, in ReverseChronologicalPager::getNavigationBar() in includes/Pager.php, you can add this at the top: if ( $this->mIsFirst && $this->mIsLast ) return '';
[23:07:35] 	Merlissimo: is that with or without flagged revs?
[23:07:41] 	That should avoid unnecessary paging links.
[23:07:54] *Simetrical 	is looking to commit something like that, but that will have to wait till tomorrow, alas
[23:08:04] 	both show/hide flag rev is working correctly
[23:08:08] 	I want the files in a gallery to link to an external link
[23:08:52] 	03siebrand * r52267 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesKl.php: Localisation updates for namespaces from translatewiki.net
[23:15:14] 	03(mod) Add personal Common.css & Common.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10183  (10erwin)
[23:17:15] 	Splarka its a bit confusing on tests but i have not look at the source
[23:23:02] 	03(mod) Must differentiate 'specialpage(s)' in all languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18403  (10jidanni)
[23:31:59] 	03(mod) RSS should put edit summaries, not just pagenames, into s - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16646  +comment (10jidanni)
[23:32:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Must also say New|New User|Delete|etc. in RecentChanges feed <title>s - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17869  (10jidanni)
[23:35:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) feed=rss ignores uselang= - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17868  (10jidanni)
[23:35:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) RSS, Atom, XML syndication feeds (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3646  (10jidanni)
[23:39:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Must also say New|New User|Delete|etc. in RecentChanges feed <title>s - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17869  (10jidanni)
[23:39:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) RSS, Atom, XML syndication feeds (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3646  (10jidanni)
[23:44:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Consider using CDATA for RSS/Atom feeds or type="xhtml" for Atom feeds instead of escaping special characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17566  (10jidanni)
[23:44:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) RSS so bloated with CSS repeated every line - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17058  (10jidanni)
[23:44:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Consider using CDATA for RSS/Atom feeds or type="xhtml" for Atom feeds instead of escaping special characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17566  (10jidanni)
[23:44:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) RSS so bloated with CSS repeated every line - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17058  (10jidanni)
[23:49:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Consider $wgRCMaxAge when generating limit links for recent changes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9257  (10jidanni)
[23:58:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add border="1" to tables, not just their stylesheets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18829  (10jidanni)
[23:58:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow on-wiki editing of SVG images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5899  (10martinfisch)