[00:00:16] is there a way to create a file that overrides the monobook.php file? [00:00:21] Total saving is ~60 bytes - almost 1/100th of a page for stubs. [00:00:36] maiya, it doesn't look like you're using MonoBook, it looks like you're using a custom skin. You'll have to edit that skin's file. [00:01:06] 03demon * r52380 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Skin.php: Followup to r52379: Also remove var declarations. [00:01:14] It's probably called something like skins/DreamFish.php, but I don't really know, since it's not a stock skin. [00:01:27] Simetrical - thanks, ya, but there's no file in my skin with any html - so, perhaps I need to just copy the monobook.php and create a custom similar file for my skin [00:01:39] right, I think I'd need to create it [00:01:46] maiya, you have an existing skin file somewhere that's being used. [00:01:48] You have to find that. [00:01:54] Use grep if necessary. [00:02:02] what's grep? [00:02:08] Never mind that, then. [00:02:09] !grep [00:02:09] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "grep". [00:02:10] hi, is it possible to reset my password on translatewiki.net ? [00:02:17] sorry for the ignorance, i'm not familliar with mediawiki development [00:02:24] Beren, maybe ask in #mediawiki-i18n. [00:02:37] maiya, grep is a standard Unix utility. Probably not worth installing and learning how to use just for this. [00:03:08] ya, I can perhaps ask the other dev i'm working with to do it [00:03:38] It just does a search. [00:03:47] You could use your operating system's search/find function too. [00:03:59] Look for "skin-dreamfish". [00:06:00] Simetrical I think I found it - thanks so much [00:10:07] 03(NEW) Add wikitable support to Filepage-nofile* messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19386 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (Platonides) [00:17:38] 03(FIXED) Wasteful tabs, var statements in global variables script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19382 +comment (10greenreaper) [00:20:14] <^demon> OverlordQ: I've got a patch for the lock tables stuff (bug 19372). Not seeing the strencode() issue you mentioned, the timestamps are done properly afaict.... [00:23:19] 03dale * r52381 10/branches/new-upload/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (4 files in 3 dirs): added hint that archive.org supports oggz_chop [00:37:13] 03(mod) Set project namespace of Portuguese Wikibooks to "Wikilivros" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19364 (10heldergeovane) [00:40:26] 03demon * r52382 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [00:40:26] * Move lock()/unlock() to DatabaseMysql, declare abstract [00:40:26] * Introduce lockTables() and unlockTables(), define in DatabaseMysql [00:40:26] * (bug 19372) updateSearchIndex has MySQLisms. [00:41:00] 03(mod) updateSearchIndex has MySQLisms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19372 (10innocentkiller) [00:41:42] 03demon * r52383 10/trunk/phase3/includes/UserMailer.php: (bug 17804) Make EmailNotification members protected [00:41:59] 03(mod) updateSearchIndex has MySQLisms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19372 (10innocentkiller) [00:42:06] 03(FIXED) Please make EmailNotification members protected (was public) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17804 +comment (10innocentkiller) [02:03:32] 03(NEW) Checkuser log omissions - urgently needing fixing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19387 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CheckUser; (FT2.wiki) [02:09:36] 03(NEW) Alert the user if he receive a reply anywhere in the discussion pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19388 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (dy_yol) [02:16:26] Hurrah, I finally got RAID1/ext4 working. [02:16:40] Only took . . . somewhere over two hours. [02:21:21] *Splarka looks at 19388 [02:22:13] Hmm, now I just have to figure out how to test grub on the new disk without messing up the disk numberings. [02:24:39] *p858snake messes up Simetrical's array and grub in more ways than just messing up the numbers [02:26:30] 03siebrand * r52384 10/trunk/extensions/WikimediaMessages/WikimediaMessages.i18n.php: article -> page [02:27:39] Splarka: I think that's why people have watchlists, no? I don't get that bug. [02:27:56] Resolve --> LiquidThreads? [02:29:44] totally wrong component though, I'd guess [02:29:51] someone find a dupe for.. "watch pages I leave a comment on" [02:31:50] i think just close it as wont fix [02:32:30] p858snake: it should probably be WFM or DUP [02:35:21] *Splarka doesn't see any good bugs to dupe to, didn't look hard tho [02:42:36] just create a new "perfect" one, and dup them all onto that [02:47:09] 3(NEW) Improve MediaWiki - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19389 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (mrzmanwiki) [02:48:47] !details | MrZ-man [02:48:47] --mwbot-- MrZ-man: Please give us details when reporting a problem. [02:48:47] Fuck. [02:48:51] That one got me. [02:49:11] I was like "Mr.Z-man just did whaaaaa?" and I clicked. :-( [02:49:29] !language | Annemarie [02:49:30] Annemarie: Shut your whore mouth! [02:49:56] :O [02:50:01] heh [02:50:25] I think 17606 is still the best [02:52:20] MrZ-man: but it is an inverse blocker against "MediaWiki not kosher" [02:53:25] (also, the DUP of "Mediawiki not halal" to that caused a few declarations of jihad) [03:01:36] Greetings. [03:45:19] you there? [03:45:59] if ( is_string( $str ) && ord($str[0]) < 128 ) { [03:45:59] // editing string in place = cool [03:45:59] $str[0]=strtolower($str[0]); [03:46:25] I guess it would be cool if that was what that line was doing [03:46:49] actually it's writing to a COW string for the first time, so it makes a copy of it [03:50:03] I'm looking for a template or extension that will allow me to somehow show the contents of articles in the same category on one page. Does anyone have any ideas? [03:56:32] TimStarling, non-mutable strings bothering you? [03:57:12] Be glad... Ruby has mutable strings...... I'm quite glad that other languages don't, mutable strings cause massive headaches [03:58:17] PHP doesn't use that terminology [03:59:13] PHP strings are mutable in the sense that a java StringBuffer is mutable and a java String isn't [03:59:43] but they're copy-on-write by default and so semantically immutable [04:00:23] i.e. if you pass one to a function and the function changes it, the string in the caller isn't changed [04:03:02] if that makes sense at all [04:03:31] mhmm [04:04:06] anyway, I just removed the whole function call, fixed that little optimisation problem neatly [04:04:31] *Dantman can't write C/C++ but can understand things of that level quite fine... [04:05:02] I took a light bit of C++ in my short bit of post-secondary [04:46:01] wfRunHooks() was taking 30us in the case where no hooks were defined [04:49:44] it was called twice from MessageCache::get(), accounting for about two thirds of that function's execution time [04:50:34] I changed the array_key_exists() to isset() in that case in wfRunHooks(), reduced it to 3us [04:51:27] Nice. [04:57:10] 03(NEW) Deleted page still need to patorl - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19389 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Deleting; (xu.jimmy.wrk) [05:39:08] 03nikerabbit * r52385 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ImagePage.php: Protect with newlines to prevent unexpected behaviour [05:55:41] *GreenReaper mutters something untypeable things about DPLForum. [05:55:51] *untypeable things [06:00:24] is there a simple auth plugin that reads REMOTE_USER and "trusts" it? [06:00:46] inserts a row as needed, etc [06:03:17] I want to remove a hook from wfMsg() because it takes 3us for a null call and I want them back [06:04:07] meanwhile, wikia is using that hook to fetch text from a page in the DB, probably takes 1000 times that long [06:04:17] {{sofixit}} *runs* [06:04:44] you mean remove the hook and let them fix it when they upgrade? [06:04:56] sounds like a plan, thanks for the idea [06:06:03] Might be nice to let them know in advance. [06:06:29] I don't know what a us is. [06:06:47] Of course they're not on 1.15 yet so it will be some time. [06:07:11] it's ascii for μs [06:07:37] A microsecond is one millionth of a second? [06:07:41] Is that vandalism? [06:08:12] No, no it's not. [06:08:55] yes, one millionth [06:09:04] why would mediawiki says i'm running php 4.4.9 when i'm running php 5.2.8 [06:09:18] *Splarka puts a post-it on the wall [06:09:41] Perhaps your system is secretly also running PHP4 and MediaWiki is using that for some reason. [06:09:41] A post-it for what? [06:09:42] "When Wikia upgrades to 1.15, tell Uberfuzzy to come see Mr Starling in his office" [06:10:20] when you've got a function which is called hundreds of times on every parser cache hit, microseconds are the things you have to worry about [06:10:35] what extension(s) use the hook? [06:10:53] SharedMessages is the main one [06:11:06] FCKeditor also uses it, but for a much less convincing reason [06:11:48] PHP 5.2.8 (cgi-fcgi) - GreenSleeper nope [06:12:51] I've seen commandline PHP be a different version from the CGI version. [06:13:13] Is this shared hosting? [06:13:32] yes [06:14:11] but i have shell access nonetheless [06:14:38] lunarpages? [06:14:46] what's that [06:14:54] A shared host, I guess not the oneyou're using. [06:14:59] ah [06:15:09] Can you use cPanel to manage your account or is it just shell based? [06:15:33] It may have a PHP5 enable button if your shared hosting supports both 4 and 5 [06:16:21] the account side is web interface based, just the fileserver is shell. I'll have a look around. Wonder why phpinfo and mediawiki would still report 5.2.8 though [06:16:53] You could also try setting "AddHandler application/x-httpd-php5 .php" in your .htaccess [06:17:03] to ensure that php5 is getting it, not php4 [06:19:14] cpanel says 5.x as well bleh [06:25:19] morning [06:26:57] 03(mod) wikibugs reports resolver instead of commeter on comments to resolved bug? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19384 (10niklas.laxstrom) [06:31:28] 03(mod) Deleted page still need to patrol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19389 (10N/A) [06:31:37] 03(mod) Add wikitable support to Filepage-nofile* messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19386 (10niklas.laxstrom) [06:36:37] 03(mod) Localize auto-summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19363 (10niklas.laxstrom) [06:40:47] is there a simple auth plugin that reads REMOTE_USER and "trusts" it? [06:57:37] Hi, Im working on sharing an existing user database with mediawiki, yesterday people here pointed me to authplugin @ http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/AuthPlugin .. Do I need to edit my includes/AuthPlugin.php file? or create a new one in the extensions directory? [07:02:00] anyone? :) or am i not making my question clear? :) [07:02:24] Just test? [07:03:12] ok, so you don't know either ;) [07:04:24] afaik authplugin is just a framework for other extenstions [07:04:55] so just follow the instructions for whatever your installing/setting up [07:05:50] the problem with the instructions is that it doesn't state clearly (well, IMHO) if I should write my code in that excisiting file, or create my own and include it... [07:06:34] but ill just go on and "just test" ;) [07:06:54] thx [07:09:23] 03huji * r52386 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: Localisation updates: Similar phrases translated similarly. [07:44:33] one (1) complaint, heh: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&diff=298512777&oldid=298512510 [08:16:49] 03werdna * r52387 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/pages/SummaryPageView.php: Fix fatal reported by domas [08:33:29] 03raymond * r52388 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialUndelete.php: Wrap some more elements into divs [08:58:39] 03(mod) PDF rendering now accepts inline font sizes but doesn't adjust line spacing to suit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19223 +comment (10volker.haas) [09:19:55] werdna: did ya ever solve your IE6 css menu thing? [09:22:47] hmm, I was thinking an IE60Fixes.css to make the UL just show (if JS disabled), but that'd only work in skins with IE fixes [09:22:49] Splarka: Yes, by not bothering yet. [09:23:01] I've done the menu, haven't fixed it for IE [09:24:07] heh [09:24:25] good boy [09:24:38] btw, how about IE5? heh heh [09:24:59] Trevor recently horribly broke it by making all links {display:block;}, _one_ person complained on all of Wikimedia [09:25:33] might be worth dropping it, been like 11 years eh? [09:25:49] (5 that is) [09:31:37] 03nikerabbit * r52389 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/scripts/poimport.php: Convert to new system [09:37:58] Splarka: yeah I don't think (hope) anyone uses IE5 anymore [09:46:18] don't forget we still have uses that use a text based browser >.> [09:46:24] which is even worse [09:52:10] no it isnt [09:52:13] isn't* [09:52:35] the actions drop-down menus appear as regular lists to users of text-based browsers. [09:52:40] They don't appear at all to users of IE6 [09:53:15] 03(FIXED) Search suggestions broken on usability prototype wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19354 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [09:59:07] Simetrical, do you know IPA? [10:00:39] 03(mod) Localize auto-summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19363 (10roan.kattouw) [10:02:50] 14(INVALID) API tags links to Special:Search subpages with flag "missing" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19370 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [10:03:57] 03(mod) Remove AdminSettings.php from MediaWiki core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18768 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [10:22:21] rar roan [10:22:53] Hi Splarka [10:23:00] Up late as usual? [10:25:49] RoanKattouw: not really, this is normalish [10:26:18] Isn't it past 3 AM now? [10:26:20] Gee, I was convinced that ICANN was a useless, overfunded organization, but it turns out they're actually hard at work protecting us from hackers: http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Project:Support_desk/Sections/Miscellaneous&diff=next&oldid=261778 [10:28:07] Wow, I had no idea that fellatio required php and mysql. [10:30:06] I like how people refer to editing a page that anyone can edit as "hacking" now, this next generation is just lazy [10:30:44] Actually, I imagine it's an older person [10:30:57] omg i so like totially like omg hack you guises like totally.. omg! [10:31:06] "omg I hacked your comments by clicking submit! hahaah I rule!" [10:31:42] 03werdna * r52390 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/lqt.css: Tweak colour of edited by other users notice to avoid confusion with red links [11:00:32] 03catrope * r52391 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/DefaultSettings.php skins/common/wikibits.js): Prevent showTocToggle() from inserting the show/hide link twice [11:01:26] 03catrope * r52392 10/trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: Move EditPage::showEditForm:initial hook down one statement so it has access to the parsed preview. [11:05:35] 03catrope * r52393 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Linker.php includes/parser/Parser.php): (log message trimmed) [11:05:35] Core changes for NavigableTOC extension: [11:05:35] * Always generate the section tree, even when we're not generating a TOC [11:05:35] * Add Parser::mergeSectionTrees() to merge two section trees into one [11:05:35] * Add Linker::generateTOC() to generate the HTML for a TOC from a section tree, [11:05:39] and add the section anchor to the section tree to facilitate this. This adds the [11:05:41] ability to generate TOCs in extensions; haven't converted Parser.php to use it [11:06:18] 03(NEW) Printable view links to &printable=yes&printable=yes... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19390 minor; Normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (chkno) [11:07:37] 03catrope * r52394 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/NavigableTOC/ (ISSUES NavigableTOC.hooks.php NavigableTOC.js): [11:07:37] NavigableTOC: [11:07:37] * Use mergeSectionTrees() to improve performance for section previews: they no longer need to parse the result of replaceSection() [11:07:37] * Instead of unlinking all section except the edited section and its [11:07:38] descendants, unlink all sections without an offset. This fixes a bug where [11:07:41] sibling sections added in preview would not be linked, and as a side effect also [11:07:44] unlinks sections included from templates. [11:10:07] 03(FIXED) anchor missing by action=parse&prop=sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18720 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [11:21:20] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/CharInsert/CharInsert.php?view=markup -- Why #REDIRECT [[+]] makes two links: one for #REDIRECT and second for [[+]]? [11:22:46] space is a delimiter, for things like a b c d e f g h... [11:23:02] That doesn't work either [11:23:36] define "work" ? [11:24:39] #REDIRECT [[+]] does same as #REDIRECT[[+]] [11:25:02] "space is a delimiter" meaning a space is a delimiter, that is norma; [11:25:15] a b c -> a b c [11:25:38] uhfh, how I can make a space without it's a delimiter? [11:26:27] *Splarka checks how en.wp does (did) it [11:26:38] They got some JS on their own [11:26:59] hence "did" [11:27:03] they didn't always have JS [11:27:12] hmm, they used #REDIRECT [[+]]   [11:27:15] and that does work [11:27:23] do you have tidy installed/enabled? [11:27:47] See CommonSettings.php, that's fiwiki [11:28:10] hmm, try wrapping in [11:28:34] without or with ? [11:28:42] #REDIRECT [[+]] [11:28:58] 03(FIXED) Add wikitable support to Filepage-nofile* messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19386 +comment (10matthew.britton) [11:28:59] #REDIRECT [[]] [11:29:36] note also #REDIRECT[[foo]] and #REDIRECT:[[foo]] are valid redirect syntax (but nobody likes them) [11:30:03] yepee [11:30:11] That should be documented :) [11:30:16] it is [11:30:19] in the source code ^_^ [11:30:23] … :) [11:30:39] ah, charInsertArmor [11:30:52] *str4nd is blind [11:32:25] and "You have to enclose templates and spaces inside " [11:32:46] Thanks Splarka [11:33:55] heh [11:37:09] 03(mod) Wasteful tabs, var statements in global variables script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19382 (10matthew.britton) [11:46:14] hi [11:47:57] NavFrame is included in the mediawiki or I nedd plugin> [11:49:05] Um [11:49:47] 03minuteelectron * r52395 10/trunk/extensions/Mibbit/ (Mibbit.php Mibbit_body.php): [11:49:47] Mibbit extension: [11:49:47] * Parse the special page header message. [11:51:49] hello, if i am setting up a private wiki for myself that will basically serve as a record keeping system for grad schoool, would something like netbook specs (1.6 ghz atom, 1.5 GB RAM) be suitable? [11:54:22] what means "Um"? [11:56:28] spvensko: yes [11:57:50] ty Emufarmers :) [12:03:01] Elektryk91: it is some CSS, some JS and some templates, not a plugin [12:03:53] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NAVFRAME [12:04:06] they basically cobble together the functionality from existing wikicode [12:05:15] thanks [12:09:54] one moment, here (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Collapsible_tables) is code for tables but where i can fint this code for divs? [12:10:04] find* [12:11:00] some of it is in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css and some of it is in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js [12:11:25] yes, good look in searching [12:15:58] 03minuteelectron * r52396 10/trunk/extensions/Mibbit/ (Mibbit.php Mibbit_body.php): [12:15:58] Mibbit extension: [12:15:58] * Use $wgOut->addWikiMsg rather than $wgOut->addHTML for the message header, per Nikerabbit. [12:22:51] Splarka: what do you think of this evil URL plan: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Werdna/LQT_URLs [12:24:59] ew... I don't like how it basically has to encode the namespace (talkspace) as a pseudo pagename [12:25:30] hmm, also, how does it resolve, say, User:Foo and User:Foo_1 ? [12:25:31] werdna: what will happen if I create Talk:User_talk-Werdna page? [12:25:40] brb [12:25:53] vvv: nothing... [12:25:54] ok, its working, thanks for help [12:26:13] maybe if you created a User_talk-Werdna page, you might have a problem [12:26:37] why Thread:User_talk-Werdna and not Thread:User_talk:Werdna ? [12:27:02] hmm, maybe [12:27:13] vvv: what do you suggest? [12:27:33] I have this vague impression that double NS prefixes are invalid [12:27:51] werdna: are they? [12:27:54] will Thread/Summary be a pair of custom namespaces? [12:27:56] werdna: I'm using it for my extension already... Translations:User:Werdna/foobar/de :o [12:28:02] or a magic alias [12:28:09] Wikipedia is full of Category:Wikipedia:Bla-bla pages [12:28:31] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Talk:Foo [12:28:32] no, they seem to work okay [12:28:36] Some work, some don't [12:29:01] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikipedia:Foo [12:29:03] eg, User:WP:Foo is a naughty one, heh [12:29:23] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Talk:Foo [12:29:24] aaron added some ugly(?) hack for talk: [12:29:26] that's weird. [12:29:26] 03ashley * r52397 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/UserActivity/UserActivityClass.php: SocialProfile: some E_NOTICE fixes [12:29:33] Nikerabbit: why? :/ [12:29:53] Talkblocked to prevent Talk:Talk: tyranny [12:29:57] how would I know [12:30:07] IIRC [12:30:19] let me double check [12:30:36] !r 45780 [12:30:36] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/45780 [12:31:20] Brion told him to by the looks [12:31:34] when I become a famous musician I'm gonna title songs like "Main Page" "Project:Talk:Project" and "|<>[]{}" [12:31:43] haha [12:32:20] Splarka: or movies [12:32:56] Nikerabbit: harder to do, movies usually require a lot more collaborative input, and financiers often get last-say on titles [12:33:14] aww [12:33:36] www.Main Page.domain [12:33:39] Something tells me most financiers don't like |<>[]{} as a title [12:34:06] similar for books in some cases [12:34:34] but, I seem to notice a lot of creative control bleeding through in the history of music, from the musicians, in terms of titles [12:35:02] possibly another venue would be episode titles of a long running tv show, though the episodes themselves must be notable anymore to get a full article [12:35:19] so still, it is easiest in music, if you have a single that becomes a hit, I think [12:36:54] werd: possibly User/(increment), since usernames can [12:37:01] 't contain slashes but page titles can [12:37:10] to prevent system gaming and such [12:37:31] What they'd probably do is put the thingy on top of the page saying "This page should really be called |<>[]{}, but it can't be for technical reasons" and call the article [[Pipe less greater bracket bracket brace brace]] [12:38:16] yah, the bastards [12:39:43] or one could do the opposite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqua_Teen_Hunger_Force_Colon_Movie_Film_for_Theaters_Colon_the_Soundtrack [12:39:45] and spell out the colon [12:40:03] (canonically in the title of the product, that is) [12:40:44] I have a problem, a paste the CSS code: http://borealis.x-12.pl/wiki/index.php/MediaWiki:Common.css but NaveFrames dont use it: http://borealis.x-12.pl/wiki/index.php/User:Elektryk/Brudnopis (on the bottom). Why? [12:41:22] did you purge your browser cache? (most common reason) [12:41:40] ahh [12:41:45] did you recently upgrade to 1.14? [12:42:16] between 1.13 and 1.14 the method by which site css was loaded changed [12:42:34] yes, i purge the cache, this mediawiki is on 1.14 version [12:42:38] so skins created (forked from monobook) in 1.13-- do not load them in 1.14++ [12:43:09] so Skinname.css and Common.css will not load in "gumaxdd" [12:43:22] this is a bug in the skin [12:44:16] ok, i undertand, so i must add this CSS code to the CSS file of skin? [12:44:38] well, you should probably fix the skin... [12:45:09] ah, this is why Talk:Something:X [12:45:10] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5280 [12:45:11] is bad [12:45:15] how? [12:45:55] hmm, this comes up often enough we should have a help page about this [12:46:00] well, what's the Subject page for Talk:Wikipedia:X? [12:46:16] oh right, wrong question [12:46:22] *Splarka grins [12:46:53] werd: what changed in 1.14 that causes 1.13 skins not to load Skinname/Common.css? [12:47:01] no idea [12:47:09] Unfortunately, version 1.1 of the skin is "comming soon" :/ [12:47:14] heh [12:48:07] 2008-10-07 [23:12:40] anyone have any clue why my custom skin's css isn't being output in 1.14 but _is_ in 1.13.2 [12:49:20] hmm [12:49:53] ok, i added the CSS code to gumax_main.css file and it is working, thanks [12:51:20] Elektryk91: stopgap solution, that will make upgrades harder, leave yourself a note to undo that when you get v1.1 of the skin ^_^ [12:52:47] thanks for the advice :D i will write this on my user page [12:52:57] and enjoy! [12:53:04] hi [12:53:15] I have a problem with imagemagick / creating thumbnails [12:53:29] with big images (PNG) I get the error " Invalid thumbnail parameters" [12:53:37] is there are way to make it work? [12:59:08] 03(mod) Interface "variant" overruling "language" preference [bug in StubUserLang::_newObject()] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10837 (10shinjiman) [13:02:06] 03(FIXED) Interface "variant" overruling "language" preference [bug in StubUserLang::_newObject()] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10837 +comment (10shinjiman) [13:08:20] 03(mod) LanguageConverter should always use interface language for conversion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14823 (10shinjiman) [13:11:51] This is the help/support channel for MediaWiki, no? [13:12:05] Yes. [13:12:10] I'm looking for help with a glitch on my mediawiki installation. [13:13:07] Say my username is "User" and I'm trying to upload an image called "Image:Picture.png", the file name would change to "Image:User--Picture.png" [13:13:12] I'm running on MediaWiki 1.14 [13:14:35] hmm, that's the behavior of an extension someone has mentioned before [13:14:54] I have Password Reset, Checkuser, Semantic MediaWiki, Configure, Admin Links, User Merge and Delete, ReplaceText, DPL, DPLForum, CurrentUsers, EditCount, InputBox, KeepYourHandstoYourself and ConfirmEdit. [13:15:18] Try disabling them one by one till it doesn't happen anymore? [13:15:55] Most likely candiates are KYHtY and ReplaceText I think [13:16:20] Roan: only cuz you never heard of them! heh [13:16:42] Nah, there's more in there that I've never heard of, but those sound like they might do stuff like that [13:16:45] 2009-02-28 [01:06:26] Splarka I have found the problem ;P the problematic extension is KeepYourHandsToYourself.php apparently the owner added a new function [13:17:31] earlier: [00:35:24] when you upload a file, the system add your username prefix [13:18:18] 03(WONTFIX) LanguageConverter should always use interface language for conversion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14823 (10rainman) [13:20:42] Ok, thanks :) [13:23:48] #mediawiki-nl [13:23:58] whoops, wrong channel (A) [13:27:54] 03(FIXED) Feed item title contains doubly-escaped ampersand, displaying - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17521 +comment (10mormegil) [13:31:38] I disabled KeepYourHandstoYourself. [13:31:48] I get an error message when I upload. [13:31:57] Could not rename file "temp/b/bc/20090625132332!Booker.jpg" to "public/b/bc/Booker.jpg". [13:32:14] bye [13:32:49] What do you think? [13:32:57] My images directory is writable. [13:35:42] Any ideas? [13:36:44] 03(mod) Wasteful tabs, var statements in global variables script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19382 (10greenreaper) [13:38:25] Guest253: Is it recursively writable, by your web server process? [13:38:52] I've had issues where the main directory was in the www group but subdirectories weren't, for example, after a file transfer. [13:38:59] You might have to do a chmod -r or chgrp -r [13:41:13] I apolgize for my ignorance; have no idea what you're talking about. I use cPanel Accelerated 7 for my control panel. [13:41:22] mmm hungry [13:41:27] *I have no idea what you're talking about [13:41:38] What is this "control panel" you speak of? Servers are managed through command lines . . . [13:41:48] 03(mod) Days to show in watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19296 (10AlexSm) [13:41:58] cPanel [13:42:14] http://www.cpanel.net/ [13:43:02] Guest253: It is possible that subdirectories have different permissions than the main directory. You need to check that the particular folder public/b/bc/ is writable by your web server process. [13:43:25] also it says /public/b/bc/Booker.jpg . . . shouldn't that be /public/images/b/bc/Booker.jpg? Maybe your image path is incorrectly set. [13:43:47] GreenReaper: No. public is a fake name for whatever your image path is [13:44:03] How devilish. [13:44:11] Yes, we know [13:45:56] We really should do that. [13:46:07] Why isn't it something like "" instead of "public"? [13:46:12] s/should/shouldn't/ [13:46:24] Trying to hide it from outsiders? [13:46:42] Yes, that's the theory. [13:46:46] Although if reveailng your path structure is a security issue, you have other issues. [13:46:48] Avoiding "path disclosure vulnerabilities". [13:46:59] In case the attacker can't guess /var/www/ is your web root, you know. [13:47:12] But people complain. [13:47:49] That it's meaningless except if other problems happen isn't here or there, there's such a thing as security in depth. But paths are usually guessable anyway. [13:47:54] I got another error. [13:47:56] Permission denied in /home/animalcr/public_html/w/includes/GlobalFunctions.php/ on line 1943 [13:48:12] And if they aren't, and the attacker does somehow get any kind of limited filesystem access, they can almost certainly figure out the paths. [13:48:20] Guest253, what does line 1943 say? [13:48:21] Guest253: What's line 1943 of GlobalFunctions.php [13:48:27] Let me get it. [13:48:28] Hold on [13:49:02] Simetrical: The upload path is configurable, so it could be anything [13:49:11] Of course it's /var/www/w/images/ on most installs, tre [13:49:13] *true [13:49:26] RoanKattouw, but you're accessing it through the web, unless you're using img_auth.php. So you only need to know the web root. [13:49:49] Which is usually standard unless maybe you're on shared hosting. [13:50:09] Not necessarily. The images could be somewhere completely different if you configure the upload path differently and use an Apache Alias [13:50:46] Line 1943 says return mkdir( $dir, $mode, true ); // PHP5 <3 [13:51:12] OK, so it was denied permission to create a new directory [13:51:19] Guest253, the directory it was trying to create a subdirectory of apparently isn't writable. [13:51:33] You should ensure that your images directory and all its descendant directories are writable [13:51:57] There's a flag you can set to make newly created subdirs automatically writable as well but I can't recall it's name [13:52:13] setgid? [13:52:22] That affects group ownership, but probably not relevant here. [13:52:23] Yeah probably [13:52:28] Another error: FileOp Failure on: /home/animalcr/public_html/w/images/deleted: Operation not permitted [13:52:32] I think that flag only exists in my imagination :) [13:52:35] When I tried to set them to 777 [13:52:41] they are only 775 [13:52:54] Directories created by MediaWiki will always be writable to MediaWiki, since its user will own them. [13:53:00] Unless you have umask 666. :) [13:53:11] Guest253, you tried to set them over FTP or what? [13:53:26] Does your host have safe mode enabled? [13:53:38] No [13:54:05] But I guess MediaWiki is running as a different user from your FTP access. [13:54:15] I don't use an FTP client. [13:54:15] We should really use database-based image storage by default to handle this. [13:54:20] I use cPanel. [13:54:20] This is a shell? [13:54:22] Ah. [13:54:28] Interesting. [13:54:34] I'm not sure exactly how cPanel works. [13:56:32] This is cool: http://www.w3.org/TR/2004/CR-css3-ui-20040511/#resizing [13:56:56] http://www.cpanel.net/products/cpanelwhm/ [13:59:52] Yeah, I've used it before (unfortunately), but I don't know how it actually works with respect to permissions and so on. [14:00:09] I'm guessing that you have a mix of some folders owned by you which the web server can't change, and some owned by the web server that you can't change. [14:15:19] 03(NEW) The feed on Special:RecentChanges is cached in random language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19391 minor; Normal; MediaWiki: Recent changes; (mormegil) [14:15:21] 03(mod) RSS, Atom, XML syndication feeds (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3646 (10mormegil) [14:16:47] 03(mod) feed=rss ignores uselang= - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17868 (10mormegil) [14:18:54] 03raymond * r52398 10/trunk/extensions/ (6 files in 2 dirs): [14:18:54] * Remove useless alias file (this extension has no special page) [14:18:54] * Remove svn:executable flag [14:18:54] * Add path to extensionCredits [14:21:29] 03(mod) Show TOC on Special:SpecialPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13862 (10shinjiman) [14:54:17] <^demon> overlordq: duh. totally misssed what you meant. [14:58:02] hmm [14:58:06] do I see join-part-flood [14:58:22] 03ialex * r52399 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): svn:eol-style native [14:58:48] :P [14:59:23] until they rejoin with 'ecs' or another alternate nick again :P [14:59:42] ^demon: also that relock function is wrong, it's calling the old unlock function and $dbw->unlock but not lock again [15:00:06] <^demon> oops. [15:00:36] is that a new syntax? :o [15:00:40] only in freenode? [15:01:09] yes, it redirects you to a different channel [15:02:11] <^demon> overlordq: ive fixed the issues, will commit this evening. [15:02:11] weird [15:02:22] !## :o [15:02:22] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "##". [15:02:29] stupid bot [15:02:37] guess I could probably get PG to work then :D [15:03:21] <^demon> overlordq: if we abstract that select too. [15:03:48] Nikerabbit: It's just !#channel at the end of the ban- but in that case, the channel being forwarded to is called ##fix_your_connection [15:04:05] how many people is there [15:04:37] <^demon> nikerabbit: join and see :) [15:04:58] people would think I'm broken [15:05:39] 03(mod) updateSearchIndex has MySQLisms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19372 (10overlordq) [15:05:40] 04(REOPENED) Allow maint scripts to accept DB user/pass over input or params if no AdminSettings.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16322 +comment (10innocentkiller) [15:05:40] 04(REOPENED) Remove AdminSettings.php from MediaWiki core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18768 +comment (10innocentkiller) [15:05:40] 03(mod) Remove AdminSettings.php from MediaWiki core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18768 (10innocentkiller) [15:05:41] 03(mod) Introduce article creation log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10331 (10shinjiman) [15:06:21] wikibugs must need some fiber bit backed up there [15:08:09] *^demon abuses wikibugs [15:08:58] kinky [15:13:52] *^demon goes to upgrade to 5.3rc4 [15:14:24] 03(mod) Parse s and such from scary transcluded pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12401 +comment (10wikipedia) [15:18:06] 03(mod) The search function on Wikipedia won't select - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19194 +comment (10fryedpeach) [15:22:38] Greeting everyone. [15:23:05] can somebody hear me [15:23:56] Nikerabbit, no. [15:23:57] Sorry. [15:24:33] so all is good again [15:25:40] Is anyone familiar with Wikipedia's DB Schema? [15:26:04] Probably a few people are - it is documented on the MediaWiki website. [15:26:05] I have a brief question about it. [15:26:21] Im there. But I can't find what I'm looking for. [15:26:51] OK, so what is that? [15:27:31] Sparragus, yes, we're familiar with it. [15:28:07] 03aaron * r52400 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.hooks.php FlaggedRevs.php): bug 19379 When moving pages from user namespace to article namespace, flag automatically [15:28:18] 03(FIXED) When moving pages from user namespace to article namespace, flag automatically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19379 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [15:28:29] Im interested in knowing what links to the RECENTCHANGES table. For example, REVISION has a foreign key to PAGE. Is there any table that uses rc_id as a foreign key? [15:28:35] 03(mod) Spurious RSS updates for non-existant pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15853 (10mormegil) [15:29:15] 03(mod) Parse s and such from scary transcluded pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12401 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [15:29:16] Sparragus, I can't think of any offhand. You can check maintenance/tables.sql to be sure. recentchanges is really sort of a denormalized-for-efficiency thing, I don't see why anything would refer to it. [15:29:18] 03(mod) Cross-wiki API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14024 (10mrzmanwiki) [15:29:37] Hmm, change_tag maybe? [15:29:40] 03(mod) Spurious RSS updates for non-existant pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15853 +easy +need-review +patch (10mormegil) [15:29:40] ct_rc_id [15:29:53] And tag_summary? [15:29:59] There are no docs for those . . . [15:30:49] Hmmm... [15:31:03] 03(NEW) Favicon, apple-touch-icon links matching the defaults should not be sent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19392 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (greenreaper) [15:31:03] Well, another easy question. [15:31:16] the schema diagram is pretty but it's 2 years out of date :-/ Wonder how hard it'd be to update [15:31:36] GreenReaper is going for the bytes? :o [15:31:56] werdna, you need to add documentation in tables.sql for what the columns are in the change-tagging tables. [15:31:57] Damn right. [15:32:03] If im in a row in REVISION, how can I know what is the previous revision to a certain revision.rev_id [15:32:04] ? [15:32:19] GreenReaper: why not just minimise it... nobody reads the source anyway :D [15:32:21] 28 bytes on every page request adds up. [15:32:34] That was yesterday. [15:32:58] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19382 [15:33:30] Apparently some crazy people do read the source oh hi brion. [15:33:59] Sparragus, SELECT rev_id FROM revision WHERE rev_page=1234 AND rev_id < 5678 ORDER BY rev_id DESC LIMIT 1; [15:34:11] Or use rev_timestamp if you prefer, probably more reliable but not necessarily unique. [15:34:13] next you remove the favicon :o [15:34:27] Only if it's pointing to the place it would be anyway. [15:34:36] Actually on my own servers I replaced it with an "icon" link. [15:34:50] [15:34:55] and that is shared among all languages [15:34:56] Thanks Simetrical. Very helpful [15:35:05] which would also be a good idea, IMO. [15:35:20] GreenReaper, rel="icon" works with IE? [15:35:22] A PNG can be much smaller than an ICO. [15:35:28] And PNG? [15:35:31] No, it doesn't, but then IE falls back to the ICO. [15:35:34] Everybody's happy. [15:35:42] (as long as you gzip ICOs) [15:35:47] *^demon watches GreenReaper micro-optimize 2 more bytes from the header. [15:35:51] 28! [15:36:23] 2 wouldn't be bad either, though. Better than 0. [15:39:08] ^demon: You can throw popcorn at the NY lightning talk about it. [15:41:55] <^demon> GreenReaper: if I make it. gotta work out hotel costs. [16:01:59] 03(NEW) Feeds format dates in content language and other messages in user language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19393 trivial; Normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (mormegil) [16:02:01] 03(mod) RSS, Atom, XML syndication feeds (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3646 (10mormegil) [16:29:19] 03(NEW) Recent changes feed items corresponding to some log entries are broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19394 trivial; Normal; MediaWiki: Recent changes; (mormegil) [16:30:02] 03(mod) RSS, Atom, XML syndication feeds (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3646 (10mormegil) [16:33:33] 03purodha * r52401 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ConfirmAccount.i18n.php: [16:33:33] PLURAL added to message accoring to request of EugeneZelenko at [16:33:33] http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Support&oldid=1279560#Requestaccount-tooshort_should_use_PLURAL [16:39:21] ^demon: There's a possiblility that couchsurfing or dorms will be available for the Wiki-Conference. [16:39:53] I'll probably be flying in myself on Friday, and out on Sun/Mon myself so I'm hoping I can find someone willing to share in return for dinners (say). [16:44:33] 03(mod) Search leads to "Wiki does not exist" page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19376 (10mormegil) [16:46:02] <^demon> GreenReaper: that would be fantastic. i was gonna amtrak up friday and back sunday [16:47:20] Would be cool to see something like Avenue Q as well. I had a lot of fun seeing RENT last time I went to NY. [16:47:49] They can be kinda expensive though, will have to see if they do cheap tickets a few hours before the performance. [16:49:45] Hmm, looks like they do: http://www.telecharge.com/BehindTheCurtain.aspx?prodid=712&mode=gettingTickets [16:50:01] AvenueQ in london was pretty good [16:59:07] How would I cause my svn client to break whenever it finds a string "DO NOT COMMIT" in file? [17:00:01] pre-commit hook? [17:00:11] alias svnci ... :o [17:04:11] Hiho [17:04:16] Heya. [17:05:08] Kann man mit variablen wie {{currentday}} auch rechnen? also so in der art currentday + 1? [17:05:24] GreenReaper: i did a bit of digging and prodding. Apparently 5.2.8 is installed on top of 4.4.9, and MediaWiki is picking up 4 first. 9_9 [17:05:32] Nice. [17:05:36] Though not ideal. [17:05:48] yeah, and they "can't" change it [17:06:27] oops sorry for talking german is it possible to calculate with {{currentday}} like {{currentday}}+1 [17:07:45] charitwo: mediawiki is not picking anything :o [17:08:14] does it work if you use .php5 instead? [17:08:22] Nikerabbit: but if 5.2.8 is defined in phpinfo and Special:Version, why is MediaWiki returning that error? [17:08:23] no [17:10:55] which error? [17:12:22] Hanniball: I believe you could do that with a parser expression [17:12:50] Nikerabbit: this one http://p.defau.lt/?nKVMiatYSNaHLqY1RxqOBg [17:12:51] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions [17:13:38] Hanniball: {{#expr:{{CURRENTDAY}}+1}} [17:13:39] mau [17:14:16] now I am confused [17:15:14] is there any easy way to delete the page revisions to an article in my wiki ? [17:15:29] Nikerabbit: wut [17:16:17] You might want to look at Extension:Oversight. [17:16:29] Bear in mind that it's really only for emergency use, and it still doesn't delete them, just moves them. [17:16:45] isn't delete revision more ideal nowadays ? [17:16:56] If we have that, I'm not familiar with it. [17:17:03] You can also delete the page and then restore all but that revision. [17:17:17] which might have the same effect as whatever charitwo is talking about. [17:17:44] Being a total noob and lost in the documentation, could someone point me to where in the documentation I could do this : When a template/flag is added or deleted from a page, the appropriate "Notice Board" is updated. [17:18:06] Does that require writting a bot? [17:19:35] I wouldn't think so but it might need some interesting work with the DynamicPageList extension. I'm unclear on the difference between the page itself and the notice board. [17:19:46] You can share a space between two pages by putting it into a template. [17:20:27] GreenReaper: Thanks! I think it's that they want to track the content, i.e. two parties differ on what is on a given page [17:22:12] :/ [17:22:42] BBishop: Some background on why you want to do that might help. [17:23:01] BBishop: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights#List_of_Permissions see the bottom two of Management [17:23:03] lower the mysql db space .. [17:23:33] Your better bet there is to compress revisions (there is a maintenance tool that does this) or to offload them to a separate database. [17:23:46] There is also a setting to compress individual revisions, probably wgCompressRevisions [17:23:57] 03(NEW) Testing the bugzilla create option. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19395 enhancement; Normal; Wikipedia Mobile: server; (balraj.v) [17:23:59] The maintenance tool compresses batches of 10, concatenated together. [17:24:15] DB space is only really an issue if you're being charged for it. [17:24:30] 03tparscal * r52402 10/trunk/phase3/skins/common/shared.css: Fixed IE6 bugs for search UI [17:24:45] wth is that bug :o [17:25:29] ? [17:25:56] scoobyrico: Hmm. I'm still unclear on what you need, perhaps you could give a concrete example? Do they differ in what they think *should* be on that page, or . . ? I mean, you can just go to the page to see what is on it, right? :-) [17:28:09] 03(NEW) Phonetic KeyBoard is not working in Mozilla Fire fox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19396 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (jayantanth) [17:28:22] GreenReaper: Like user X says user Y used copyright materal and puts a defien template on that page. then we want the notice board to notify the admin of that action. [17:29:14] sorry for the typos... i swear i am the king of typos [17:29:25] Nikerabbit: some test [17:29:30] Well, the template should place the page in a category (maybe a hidden category), and then you can use DynamicPageList to display a list of all pages inside that category. [17:29:44] 14(INVALID) Testing the bugzilla create option. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19395 +comment (10innocentkiller) [17:29:46] Hidden categories have __HIDDENCAT__ on their category pages. [17:29:48] 03tparscal * r52403 10/trunk/phase3/skins/ (Vector.php vector/main.css): Corrected vertical alignment of text in navigation tabs [17:30:41] <^demon> Nikerabbit: Invalid, thats what it is :) [17:32:15] Fire fox :o [17:32:29] We have over 50% users of firefox now. :-) [17:32:36] GreenReaper: using that extension to list the categories in the notice board or is this a 'separate' page.? Or is that just answered in the docs [17:32:38] Used to be even between IE and FFX [17:33:00] The extension creates a list in the page that it is placed (it can create lots of other things too, but that's the main use). [17:33:17] The idea is that it figures out what pages are in the category and makes a list based on that. [17:33:33] You can create mulitple lists and place them on any page. [17:33:54] like {{#dpl|category=Pages needing copyright checking}} [17:34:42] *GreenReaper recommends using the allowcachedresults=yes parameter in most DPL since then it doesn't have to redo the query every time and so doesn't break page caching. [17:35:19] GreenReaper: thanks so much! and I do believe I'll follow your recomendations [17:35:38] and thanks for being so friendly too [17:35:40] The DynamicPageList extension has a whole wiki of its own with multiple examples. [17:35:52] You're welcome. Hope you have fun with it. :-) [17:36:07] LOL i am sure it will be a blast [17:36:44] Just be careful, you can totally kill performance with that tool. Most regular queries don't do it but if you start getting complex . . . [17:36:54] Probably not an issue for a private wiki. [17:37:28] well, it is private, but there is a huge user base [17:37:28] so .. all the data and text revisions and stuff is in the `text` table ? [17:38:00] The text is in the text table. The revision table holds the revisions, which are separate from the text. [17:39:32] so if I edit 4 big pages with tons of texts .. I'll have each version there .. [17:39:39] that's why my db is so big [17:39:45] :/ [17:39:56] I definetly need to delete the revs [17:40:10] it'll be your text table that's big, not the revision table [17:40:40] yeah .. the text table [17:40:41] :) [17:41:49] TrevorParscal: styles for #mw_trackbacks are missing in Vector skin [17:42:20] BBishop: Look in the maintenance subdirectory., there are many delete options [17:42:25] maybe they shouldn't be in monobook - they should be shared.css [17:42:36] yeah [17:42:41] they unless they really should be skin specific [17:42:43] Be aware that they are only suitable for use when you really don't want the old ones. [17:42:57] TrevorParscal: seems to be the same in all skins [17:43:02] e.g. not when you're on a public wiki which requires attribution for previous editors. [17:43:12] since it's a private wiki you probably wont have to worry about the license issues either [17:45:00] *^demon longs for a sane skin system one day [17:45:08] ialex: yeah, it should be moved into shared.css then [17:45:13] GreenReaper, thanks. [17:45:27] TrevorParscal: will do [17:48:44] I'm setting up a new wiki and I'd like to change which CC license I chose to license the pages. How can I do this without re-installing the wiki? [17:49:18] edit LocalSettings [17:50:10] ah thanks OverlordQ [17:50:15] !wg RightsText [17:50:15] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgRightsText [17:50:17] and related options [17:51:48] 03(NEW) Articles deleted to make the way for renaming appears as red links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19397 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (Ahonc.ua) [17:55:00] hi, i'm trying to make LaTeX working - i've installed everything except dvips - and i've got question about that. Maybe someone know if it is included in texlive-base package for debian? Or textlive-extra? [17:55:46] 03(mod) Deleted articles appear as redlinks in watchlist even if exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19397 summary; +comment (10innocentkiller) [17:56:31] how can I get around [[en:w:Template_limits]] on my own wiki? [17:57:24] there is no mention of configuration parameters: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_limits [17:58:22] which limit exactly? [17:58:38] hold on i'll have to cause it to happen [17:58:41] see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#Parser [17:58:56] but note that it probably means you're doing it wrong. [17:59:17] really.. how do you suggest I get a count of all the pdfs on my wiki? [17:59:45] Something like DPL? [17:59:46] *Nikerabbit dies [17:59:57] templates + pdf count? [17:59:58] or semantic mediawiki [18:00:02] *GreenReaper cooks Nikerabbit. [18:00:06] special:mimesearch? [18:00:07] well, really, i'm creating a pdf library [18:00:19] poor templates :( [18:00:19] i've already got thousands, now i'm just prettifying them [18:00:29] *^demon has Nikerabbit-stew. [18:00:51] parserfunctions are already a nightmare. i'm not going to mix them with the insanity of dpl [18:00:58] stew? [18:01:05] oh [18:01:33] *^demon watches the joke go over Nikerabbit's head. [18:01:48] dead food? [18:02:19] <^demon> well, i dont typically eat rabbit sushi. [18:02:38] Pages where template include size is exceeded, which would be linearly increasing [18:03:01] i guess that's $wgMaxPPExpandDepth ? [18:04:50] Worth a try. [18:04:53] :o [18:04:57] sushi [18:09:32] Hi all. [18:10:03] I've created a new user rights group "powerusers". if i want it to display as "Power Users" though, can I add a system message or something for this ? [18:11:26] yes [18:11:39] should it be named "groups-poweruser" ? [18:11:48] i mean group-poweruser or so [18:11:59] i tried that, and it didnt seem to work, but maybe it was a cache issue [18:12:12] group-groupname-member [18:12:27] I think [18:12:27] and without -member [18:12:32] ah :) [18:12:37] different things [18:13:00] ive done that and its still showing as "poweruser" (lowercase) [18:13:23] aah ok. it works on some pages [18:13:30] but it doesnt work on the "user rights management" page [18:13:39] there it shows "poweruser" still [18:13:51] did you edit both? [18:14:05] hi Dewin [18:14:25] Nikerabbit, how do you mean both ? [18:15:05] on Special:ListGroupRights it shows correctly now as Power Users but on http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Special:UserRights it uses the "array" key instead it seems [18:15:07] buzz_: both pages mentioned above [18:15:31] aah ok. i didnt do the member one [18:15:40] what is the difference in terms of how it uses them ? [18:15:56] well [18:16:07] group "Power Users", member is a Power User [18:16:22] ok well i have singular group name anyway [18:16:52] aah i see what you mean [18:16:53] ok [18:17:18] 03ialex * r52404 10/trunk/phase3/skins/ (4 files in 3 dirs): move #mw_trackbacks definition to common/shared.css [18:17:28] also on the special page, if i want it for all languages do i leave off /en-gb [18:17:57] i mean on system messages [18:17:58] sorry [18:18:00] long day [18:18:20] for example when i edit a system message it edits MediaWiki:whatever/en-gb [18:22:37] i notice on the user rights page. even though the move-subpages permission relies on the "move" permission, it still displays for users that cant "move" pages [18:23:06] could give the wrong impression at first glance. I guess it shouldnt display is the move permission isnt also given [18:23:16] same with the move-root one [18:26:05] Nikerabbit, / overlordq. thanks btw for the help [18:26:32] brion: yo [18:30:19] yo yo [18:30:22] how's tricks AaronSchulz [18:30:23] brion: Could you give me your red/green on my patch at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11270 ? Not so much asking for review of the patch itself as for your approval of the general idea of putting the [edit] link after the section header in the HTML instead of before. [18:33:37] 03aaron * r52405 10/trunk/extensions/CheckUser/CheckUser_body.php: Fix target searches to catch user edit checks (bug 19387) [18:33:55] 03(FIXED) Checkuser log omissions - urgently needing fixing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19387 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [18:39:03] 03(mod) Localize auto-summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19363 (10heldergeovane) [18:45:11] 03(mod) Localize auto-summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19363 (10innocentkiller) [18:46:40] Whats the current easiest to install/use extension to take a collection of articles and output to a PDF/single document [18:47:01] *doobeh slips a questionmark on the end [18:51:29] How do i find out a wiki's version? [18:51:35] [[Special:Version]] [18:51:54] brion: Ping? [18:55:24] does mediawiki 1.14.0 has security flaws% [18:56:29] Probably not otherwise there would be a MediaWiki 1.14.1. However, 1.15.0 is cooler. [18:57:21] *^demon kills the ad execs who made Cisco's WebEx ads. [19:01:29] doobeh, Collection [19:02:23] doobeh, you could also try the genius technique of pasting your question, verbatim, into google. [19:03:01] pong RoanKattouw [19:03:15] RoanKattouw> brion: Could you give me your red/green on my patch at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11270 ? Not so much asking for review of the patch itself as for your approval of the general idea of putting the [edit] link after the section header in the HTML instead of before. [19:03:29] how would I pass a file between pages in php? like for a special page? [19:03:56] RoanKattouw: hm, aren't we already planning to make a major change to the section edit links? [19:04:15] Yes, but our changes depend on this patch [19:04:20] \o/ [19:04:41] then yes i think we're good :D [19:04:48] OK, I'll commit it rightaway [19:04:49] as long as it's not evilly disruptive [19:04:52] Otherwise, we have to rely on client-side dom-manipulation to get it done - which is really scary and doesn't work on browsers with no JS support [19:05:07] 03raymond * r52406 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmAccount/ (3 files): [19:05:07] Follow-up r52401: [19:05:07] * Fix typo in PLURA and let PLURAL work [19:05:07] * Localize the number [19:05:21] Shouldn't be very disruptive; I didn't write it originally, just brought it up to date, but it really just reverses the order and fixes some CSS [19:05:22] RoanKattouw: did you look into it's effect on other wikis| [19:05:24] ? [19:05:40] Yes, I checked how it'd interact with dewiki's script to manually switch them around [19:05:44] No weirdness [19:05:52] Awesome! [19:05:56] Haven't checked RTL yet, though, probably should [19:06:40] *TrevorParscal is really getting to hate RTL [19:07:02] *RoanKattouw already hates it [19:07:30] 03tparscal * r52407 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/ (42 files in 3 dirs): Added some fixes to make IE6 work [19:07:44] The rewrite of vector with IE6 compatibility blows up in RTL still [19:07:48] (working on that today) [19:09:14] welcome to IE [19:09:19] sucka! [19:09:40] TrevorParscal: sometimes the ie8 debuger can help with ie6 horridness... although I really only use it for javascript stuff.. not sure how much it would help with layout... don't think even Microsoft tried to recreate or help with supporting that environment [19:09:42] thats not very nice brion ;P [19:09:52] other than to say you can buy our VM product [19:09:57] If you think IE is bad, try Netscape 4 and tags. [19:10:11] hehe thankfully that is non-existent ... [19:10:27] *^demon traps GreenReaper in an