[00:00:22] thedj: It used to be more spread out and more appealingly (if that's a word) layed out, but apparently there was a design meeting and they had to change it [00:00:51] it used to look like this -> http://usability.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Design-Skin-1.pdf&page=1 [00:01:24] they said, "it looks like interaction is part of the links above it" [00:01:37] I did not agree, but I got overruled :( [00:01:43] TrevorParscal: yeah, I was about to say, the colours look a little confusing, but that could be easily fixed I think [00:01:53] the background colours, that is [00:02:03] yeah, so there's probably a good way to find a happy medium [00:02:20] it's supposed to change again, but the design is not done yet [00:02:35] chuck: PS, you need to refresh your cache with a forced reload. I can tell that from the screenshot :D [00:02:59] thedj: I took that screenshot weeks ago [00:03:07] ah that explains :D [00:03:33] TrevorParscal: oh it's fixed now [00:03:40] yeah, lots has been fixed since it looked like that [00:04:06] I thought I saw it broken still, but when I browsed to it a few minutes later, the undefineds were gone :P [00:06:37] *thedj happy with the relative bodyContent. will break all those stupid userpage icons, and it won't be my fault :D [00:10:01] 03brion * r53432 10/trunk/tools/wayback/ (. wayback.php): Add my quickie script to recover files from wayback machine :) [00:10:22] 03(NEW) Duplicate head elements in Vector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19802 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Vector Skin; (hartman) [00:15:17] Has anyone here tried using JSViz in a mediawiki extension? [00:30:07] hi [00:31:19] if i want to make the border of the footer pink instead of yellow , do i enter it as #footer {border-top 1px pink} in Common.css ? [00:44:19] "Oh, Wikipedia: "Cronkite died on July 17, 2009 at the age of 92 after an extended battle with Mary-Kate Olsen."" (via twitter) [00:44:25] can has flagged revisions on the english wikipedia? [00:48:07] hehehe [00:50:41] Sonja: #footer {border-top:1px solid pink;border-bottom:1px solid pink;} [00:52:37] though 'pink' I think depends on css engine, better to use something like #f660ab [00:53:37] yeah [00:55:18] and you should probably use MediaWiki:Monobook.css [00:55:24] that might look funny in other skins [00:59:32] well pink was just a random placeholder [00:59:46] i always use pink to see if my css code works... look for obvious pink somewhere [00:59:51] then i change it to the real colour i wanted [01:19:04] 03(mod) Vector skin does not indent subsection headers in table of contents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19790 (10blurpeace) [02:09:26] 03(WONTFIX) Submit count of templates and files needing rewiew. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19781 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [02:12:48] if i'm editing the sidebar, can i add links like this: [02:12:49] ** [[:category:Grammar]]|Grammar [02:13:13] ohhh no [[ ]] [02:14:18] !sidebar | Sonja [02:14:18] --mwbot-- Sonja: To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . [02:15:12] 03aaron * r53433 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeReview.php: Make SQL tables on update.php [02:16:57] 14(WFM) Make MAGICK_TMPDIR configurable (ImageMagick) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19768 +comment (10innocentkiller) [02:32:08] i removed the toolbox from sidebar but it's still showing [02:41:21] is it possible to embed irc connection to a specific freenode channel in a mediawiki page? [02:41:35] or the best thing is the java.freenode.net page? [02:41:54] i'm sure you could make an externsion to do that [02:42:03] if there isn't one already [02:42:14] <^demon> There's a Mibbit extension [02:45:07] morning all. Any mw coders awake? [02:45:28] Sonja: theres about three extenstions already in the matrix for that [02:45:39] !matrix | Sonja [02:45:39] --mwbot-- Sonja: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix [02:46:11] just remember the ones that use mibbit won't work since it's banned from freenode [02:46:14] Haggisburger: there's FCKEditor already, and then there's the whole dealing with templates and other stuff [02:47:25] I'm in #wikipedia having a discussion about usability. I have my own mw installation here, and I'm looking at implementing a couple of other functions too. Just wondered if someone could discuss with me? [02:47:43] thanks p858snake is this one mibbit? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:IRC_Chat [02:48:10] nope that uses the PJ:IRC interface [02:48:48] ho-k [02:49:39] I want to code a wysiwyg editor in, similar to msword, so you click, type and click out on things like bold, underlines, etc. and use that as a way for beginners to be able to edit. Also a way to select whether you know wikicode, or are a beginner. [02:50:13] Clicking B and seeing 3 apostrophes turn up is confusing. [02:50:20] there are already several wysiwyg editors [02:50:26] what makes your better than the existing ones? [02:51:07] there isn't anything yet, until I see what there already is. [02:51:20] No one mentioned their existance. [02:51:54] 03aaron * r53434 10/trunk/phase3/includes/diff/DifferenceEngine.php: Enable show/hide link on diff to cur (consistency) [02:51:55] it seems like you're doing this backwards.. maybe you should find out what it would be useful to do before you do it ;-) [02:52:31] so there are wysiwyg editors already available in mw's interface? [02:53:01] none that are very good, it's a very difficult problem [02:53:04] is there a way to add links in the sidebar that only admins can see? [02:53:06] fsckeditor is probably the least worst at the moment [02:53:52] Agreed, [02:53:59] <^demon> Death to wysiwyg :) [02:54:07] <^demon> Long live wikitext [02:54:11] But be aware that it'll screw with the formatting of existing pages so that diffs look like they changed everything. [02:54:23] ^demon: that would be okay if our wikitext didn't totally suck [02:54:27] ^demon: '''''wtf [02:54:34] flyingparchment: mine could be based potentially on vbulletin, so [B] to go bold, [/B] to revert. [02:54:52] Haggisburger: uh, what? you want to change the wikiext format? [02:54:59] <^demon> That's no better. [02:55:39] 03aaron * r53435 10/trunk/extensions/CheckUser/CheckUser_body.php: Format "get users" log entry usernames (bug 19526) [02:56:02] 03(FIXED) Some CheckUser log entries formatted incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19526 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [02:56:16] no, flyingparchment. The editor would interpret vbulletin into wikicode to add the page. [02:56:28] that's a) very bizarre and b) not a wysiwyg editor [02:56:57] so you're going to have MS Word style > vbulletin > wikitext? that sounds overly complicated [02:57:00] and i doubt most forum markup is as expressive as mediawiki's [02:57:13] can i change the name of the Main Page ? [02:57:24] Sonja: edit [[MediaWiki:Mainpage]] [02:57:49] http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Amediawiki.org+irc+freenode+extension [02:57:54] face it though, with all the ''' and ~~~~ and ~~~~~ and '', wikicode is a bitch. There's gotta be a way of making it easier. [02:57:58] ^Sonja [02:58:04] thanks guys [02:58:05] <3 [02:58:41] Haggisburger: so do it [02:58:43] Haggisburger: I don't think putting a parser on top of the parser just so you can parse it again to wysiwyg is the way to do it though... [02:59:29] Well that's why I came here. For a discussion. You guys code this stuff, I need input. [02:59:41] unless you're proposing replacing the parser altogether in a non-backward compatible way (which is also not a particularly great idea) [02:59:50] <^demon> Haggisburger: Yes it needs improvement. Changing it to bbcode isn't an improvement. [02:59:56] What's better than talking to the people who make it? [03:00:09] <^demon> It's a good debate to have :) [03:01:03] ^demon: what would, IYPO, be an improvement? [03:01:07] wikitext on its own isn't particularly complicated, its when things like templates and refs get thrown into the mix [03:01:22] *that it becomes ugly [03:01:43] right. So again, something to do. What about a drag and drop style editor? [03:02:11] <^demon> I like wikitext. It's templates that suck. [03:02:18] You get a list of templates, drag one into an edit box, and it puts the code on the page. [03:02:32] a list of the 100,000 templates on en.wikipedia? long list [03:02:50] You just fill in the blanks, so to speak. [03:02:52] I think splitting references out from the main textarea entirely, or collapsing them somehow would make a huge improvement [03:03:08] fill in the blank after you found the template you want in the list of the 100,000 templates on en.wikipedia [03:03:21] Make the list searchable, so you can limit down to a rough few to pick from. [03:03:42] that'd still be a mess, some template names aren't intuitive [03:03:51] isn't particularly bad, just the huge messes of templates and URLs in the middle of article text [03:03:59] <^demon> MrZ-man: I don't like the two textbox idea. [03:04:03] flyingparchment: well if people categroized the templates on en properly you could have some sort of search based on the template names and categories [03:04:05] Like you want a vandalism template. Type vandalism, and the uw-vandal set appear. [03:04:07] anyway, this part is easy, the difficult part is turning the wikitext back into wysiwyg [03:04:11] the only way I can see a wikiwyg working, is in a sort of laggy live mode, you create a link and it is green until the next scheduled hit that will check if it should be red or blue, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=Foo|Bar|NoSuchPageDude [03:04:17] <^demon> IMHO, we should move all refs into and call them from [03:04:27] create a template call and it shows {{foo}} until it can make an api hit and render it [03:04:44] (etc) [03:04:50] that's also a good alternative, but it makes editing sections more difficult [03:05:07] sucks [03:05:14] though that's something I'm planning to work on when I rewrite my enwiki references script for the new toolbar [03:05:25] a proper ref syntax would look like this: Wikipedia is a website [wiki1]. [03:05:37] it can guess at most of the markup, by listing parser tags and parser functions, and namespace localizations and aliases through the api info, but it can't be perfect, so scheduled calls to action=parse would be necessary [03:05:38] loading the text of all the references with AJAX if you're only editing the section [03:05:43] ^demon: or a subpage type thing, although i have always liked the idea for a way to have a page or something of ref's that you could share between a set of articles [03:05:44] Well I've coded a bit of mw before, don't know whether it got used or not. [03:06:18] <^demon> p858snake: No subpages in mainspace :) [03:06:28] I made the wikibutton toolbar appear with all the buttons intact and working on an incompatible browser. [03:06:49] well that definitely qualifies you to solve the most difficult feature request we have [03:06:57] Lol [03:07:01] ^demon: this would be a valid use so i'm sure you could get community censensus for it [03:07:13] the old toolbar? I thought that was pretty simple, what browser did you fix it for? IE4? [03:07:26] I'm just saying, I've dabbled. And I code stuff at home anyway. I like a challenge. [03:07:46] Konqueror, Mr-man [03:07:55] try working on of the existing wysiwyg extenstions [03:08:08] ok [03:08:15] Its a start. [03:09:02] i better go, its gone 4am and I have eyelids like bricks. [03:09:08] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FCKeditor_%28Official%29 is the current best I think [03:09:12] <^demon> flyingparchment: Bug 1 is a pretty big one too ;-) [03:09:14] (or least worst) [03:09:18] Thanks for the input guys, its always welcome. [03:19:27] is there a way to make an rss of the recent changes page that updates only once a day and lists the pages that changed? without listing all the various edits that were involved? [03:25:00] how do i edit text like "There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, search the related logs, or edit this page. " ? [03:26:19] MediaWiki:Noarticletext [03:26:30] cool [03:26:43] there must be a list of all such custom messages i can edit like MediaWiki:Noarticletext eh? [03:27:21] Special:AllMessages [03:27:24] Sonja: Special:Allmessages [03:27:43] be warned, there is a metric long ton [03:28:00] unless you get a new enough version and it has (*gasp*) pagination [03:28:26] <^demon> AllMessages is sexy now. [03:28:43] what was the page whose pagination was fubar'd [03:28:53] you could like go forwards or backwards, but not both [03:28:59] <^demon> PrefixIndex? [03:29:29] no, wasn't that . . . [03:29:38] I'll remember here in about ten minutes when nobody cares anymore [03:30:00] thanks again guys [03:30:02] OverlordQ: nobody cares now, remember it yet? [03:30:33] no, cuz I still care because I can't remember [03:30:47] *^demon is watching the news [03:30:54] shouldn't en.wiki's allmessages page have pagination then since it's running almost current trunk then? [03:31:20] <^demon> p858snake: wmf-deployment is still pretty far behind trunk. [03:32:36] whatlinkshere [03:32:38] there we go [03:33:30] *^demon yawns [03:35:08] 03(mod) Patrol marks in non-reviewable pages outside $wgFlaggedRevsPatrolNamespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19241 +shell; +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [03:35:24] *OverlordQ wonders if there's even an open bug about it [03:38:54] mm, a copule [04:24:54] 03(mod) new extension: cooperation statstics - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19665 +comment (10alfred.maghi) [04:28:21] 03(NEW) Dropdown menus in navbar are too narrow on zhwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19803 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Vector Skin; (liangent) [04:33:00] Ah, the mainstream media : where Commons doesn't exist, and Wikipedia can speak. [04:33:12] Oh, and umlauts don't exist either, apparently [05:04:33] 03(mod) Bad behavior of dropdown menus on zhwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19803 summary; +comment (10liangent) [05:33:27] 03(NEW) localize value acceptance of function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19804 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (mahitgar) [05:33:28] 03(mod) localize word "references" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19115 (10mahitgar) [05:43:04] is there a mediawiki skin that is also available as a phpbb style? [06:35:20] Anyone around to help me with a quick .js query ? [06:35:58] !ask | Daworm [06:35:58] --mwbot-- Daworm: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. See also: !gethelp [06:36:11] >.< Sorry [06:36:23] Wait nvm. Splarka is back in another chan. [06:36:53] *Splarka sneeks over here [06:36:54] heh [06:41:22] "I'm sorry, but the Splarka is in another channel." [06:44:18] GreenSleeper: you forget the part about leaving a message after the tone >.> [06:49:27] rar rr/fire [07:09:47] rar Splarka [07:23:21] SELECT /* SiteStatsUpdate::cacheUpdate Nike */ COUNT( DISTINCT rc_user_text ) FROM `bw_recentchanges` WHERE (rc_user != 0) AND rc_bot = '0' AND (rc_log_type != 'newusers' OR rc_log_type IS NULL) LIMIT 1 [07:23:28] is it normal that this query takes over 30 seconds? [07:24:08] rc_bot = '0' ? [07:24:22] Strange. [07:45:10] 03nikerabbit * r53436 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SiteStats.php: Whitespace [07:47:35] 03nikerabbit * r53437 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialAllmessages.php: [07:47:35] * Whitespace [07:47:35] * Post to $wgScript.. we do not need crawlers here [07:47:36] * E_NOTICE with unchecked use of explode results [08:07:54] 03shinjiman * r53438 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Literary Chinese [09:02:30] hello [09:07:29] and again hello [09:07:31] another try [09:08:08] is there a easy way to revert move-vandalisim made by a few bots this night on a mediawiki? [09:09:16] Move the pages back. [09:09:27] And then make "move" an autoconfirmed right. [09:09:34] (So it won't happen again.) [09:10:15] 4500 changes... [09:10:35] all from one ip [09:17:55] There may be a massive revert tool extension. [09:18:01] Or maybe even a maintenance script. [09:19:06] will rollback undo moves? [09:19:06] moveBatch.php would probably work if you grabbed the titles. [09:20:31] for making "move" an autoconfirmed right i have to add two lines into my LocalSettings: $wgGroupPermissions['user' ]['move'] = false; and $wgGroupPermissions['autoconfirmed' ]['move'] = true; .... right? [09:20:52] and $wgGroupPermissions['*']['move'] = false; [09:21:12] OverlordQ: there is no link for rollback. (i didnt found one :) ) [09:21:20] Annemarie: thanks, i have a look [09:22:38] you possibly want to set http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAutoConfirmAge and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAutoConfirmCount as well [09:22:42] what version of MW are you on? [09:24:03] Splarka: MediaWiki 1.13.3 [09:24:24] ( http://www.hamburgwiki.de/ is the wiki i refer to ) [09:24:46] quite old [09:24:51] suggest your upgrade [09:26:23] ok, i suggest that to our serveradmin. [09:28:06] i am thinking about to revert to an backup (if there is one), because if i move the whole crap back i still have the problem, that everything is in the history/recent changes [09:55:05] 04(REOPENED) Bullet list symbol background not transparent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19514 +comment (10totieguard-bugzilla) [10:03:19] wait why are even using a image to do a bullet? [10:14:01] 03(mod) Set custom upload URL for Bengali Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19418 (10jayantanth) [10:15:33] 03(mod) Set custom upload URL for Bengali Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19418 (10jayantanth) [10:37:35] 03(mod) Submit count of templates and files needing rewiew. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19781 (10bugzilla.wikimedia) [10:39:16] 03nikerabbit * r53439 10/trunk/phase3/languages/classes/LanguageTr.php: Avoid E_NOTICE on empty strings [10:42:43] 04(REOPENED) White space at the top of the article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19567 +comment (10hartman) [10:47:07] p858snake: because you can't set the color of a bullet of an li element. (it's part of the li content officially) [10:47:18] which sucks. [10:48:03] you can set the color and then wrap the content in something else, of course ^_^ [10:48:51] yes, which sucks even more for wikipedia of course [10:49:17] why didn't they just add a list-style-color css property.... [10:49:28] because they're bastards [10:49:57] 03(mod) Bullet list symbol background not transparent - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19514 (10xu.jimmy.wrk) [10:49:58] 03(mod) white background in ul item bullet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19413 +comment (10xu.jimmy.wrk) [10:50:08] bbl [11:22:11] 03(FIXED) Bad behavior of dropdown menus on zhwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19803 +comment (10xu.jimmy.wrk) [11:24:32] 03(mod) Bad behavior of dropdown menus on zhwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19803 (10xu.jimmy.wrk) [11:35:44] 03(NEW) Losting indentation in table of contents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19805 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Vector Skin; (xu.jimmy.wrk) [11:36:30] 03(mod) Losting indentation in table of contents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19805 15enhancement->major (10xu.jimmy.wrk) [11:39:59] 03(mod) Losting indentation in table of contents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19805 (10xu.jimmy.wrk) [11:40:04] Does anyone know of an extension which allows articles to be tagged and can show those articles in a filterable list with all their tags (ie. something that looks/works like the delicious bookmarks search interface, but where each item is an article instead of a bookmark) [11:40:34] 03(mod) Losting indentation in table of contents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19805 +comment (10xu.jimmy.wrk) [11:41:09] 03(mod) Losting indentation in table of contents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19805 (10xu.jimmy.wrk) [11:41:27] 03(mod) Losting indentation in table of contents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19805 (10xu.jimmy.wrk) [11:46:47] the downloads say they are unavailable - is there any other way to get the latest release? [11:47:16] from svn [11:50:42] http://www.sfr-fresh.com/unix/www/mediawiki-1.15.1.tar.gz might be a mirror (verify sha1, etc) [11:51:32] the tag on svn for the release doesn't seem to include any of the files [11:51:35] unless I'm missreading it [11:51:41] anyway, I've got that sfr-fresh one [11:53:06] http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/tags/REL1_15_1/phase3/ [11:54:35] Hello. i find a good template in wikipedia and want to use in my wiki. but in template documentation page no template code only call of template where i can get a template cade? [11:54:51] *code [11:55:05] don't go to the doc but rather to the template itself [11:55:45] how? [11:56:46] i see page down of it see list of used templates click on one of them and linked do temlate documentstion page [11:57:12] * and linked *to temlate documentstion page [11:58:36] I can't see any SHA1s listed for the release [12:01:12] yea use pgp sigs [12:01:13] CrGrBMP: try using [[Special:Export]] on wikipedia and then [[Special:Import]] on your local mediawiki install [12:01:30] which unfortunately it looks like that mirror didn't copy too [12:02:07] eAi2000: crap, they're probably on download.wikimedia.org, heh [12:02:11] http://www.mail-archive.com/mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org/msg02379.html [12:02:27] yeah saw that [12:03:20] OverlordQ: would you trust them if the mirror had? [12:03:38] yea [12:03:49] kinda hard to fake a private key :P [12:09:01] How come Splarka always is online? [12:11:33] how exactly does mediawiki find out if a [[link]] should be red? Does it perform one SQL query per [[link]]? Does it pre-parse the [[link]]s, run one sql query, and then continues with parsing the rest? Does it store a list of all the page names in memory? [12:11:50] augustl: (b) [12:11:59] there's a class called linkcache or something that handles it [12:11:59] I see, thank :) [12:12:02] thanks* [12:12:32] found it, tnx [12:14:34] Hello. i find a good template in wikipedia and want to use in my wiki, but in template documentation page no template code only call of template, where i can get a template code?(i see page/ Down of it see list of used templates click on one of them and temlate documentation page opened, but no source) [12:17:57] *Splarka proves svip wrong [12:22:42] 03(NEW) Dropdown menus are too narrow on zhwiki(source) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19806 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Vector Skin; (liangent) [12:25:39] 03(mod) Dropdown menus are too narrow on zhwiki(source) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19806 (10xu.jimmy.wrk) [12:31:25] hey ..I need advice/help desperately...when i go to my wiki site I see this error from with a function .. [12:31:26] "User::checkNewtalk". MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'db60637_angelcapitalwiki.user_newtalk' doesn't exist [12:31:33] does anyone know what this check new talk is about? [12:32:36] is there any phpbb theme that resembles a mediawiki theme? [12:33:17] did you upgrade recently? [12:37:29] i didn't do anything...someone came to me with this [12:37:56] and i'm clueless...i can see the actual table user_newtalk in phpmyadmin [12:42:56] 03(NEW) References () are not always rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19807 minor; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: DumpHTML; (emmanuel) [12:48:13] roberthl: any luck on the array fix ? [12:49:23] ugga gaga [12:49:46] Hi guys [12:49:49] sorry, haven't implemented it yet - i have the file open so i'll do it now [12:49:49] hi [12:53:22] I'm curious [12:53:30] Is there a way for me to set a default skin for everyone rather than myself? [12:53:52] !wg DefaultSkin [12:53:52] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgDefaultSkin [12:54:06] Thank u :) [12:54:41] 03(NEW) Indention in TOC is missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19808 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Vector Skin; (liangent) [12:54:49] Found it, thanks. [12:56:01] 14(DUP) Indention in TOC is missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19808 +comment (10str4nd) [12:56:06] 03(mod) Vector skin TOC tabbing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19795 +comment (10str4nd) [12:57:01] Now I need to figure out how to disable the edit / create function for guests. [12:57:57] !rights | FF|Skyrider [12:57:57] --mwbot-- FF|Skyrider: For information on customizing user access, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights >. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [12:58:41] Handy bot :) [12:58:51] yes, very ;) [13:01:33] str4nd [13:01:37] I did that ^^, edit is gone now. [13:01:46] Through "View Source" is still there :p [13:01:50] Which requires EDIT ^^ [13:02:50] So you want "View source" to be hidden? [13:02:59] yes [13:03:30] You can put #ca-viewsource { display: none; } to MediaWiki:Common.css or edit the skin [13:03:45] Won't that effect everyone? [13:04:29] That hides only "view source" tab but edit will be available for ppl who has right to edit [13:05:34] But it will hide view source for everyone, right? [13:06:28] yes [13:07:08] SO I can't remove it just for the normal users? [13:07:09] Err [13:07:10] Guests [13:08:26] FF|Skyrider, why should you remove it just for them? Others will have "Edit" in that place -- visible [13:08:40] Thing is.. [13:08:45] If I disabled edit for guests [13:08:49] view source doesnt work for them anymore [13:09:01] Gives them a blank/empty page [13:09:16] Oh, that shouldn't happen [13:09:21] thats odd.. [13:09:28] "view source" goes to "&action=edit" [13:09:51] Guess I'll just hide it :) [13:10:23] "&action=edit" should show the source [13:10:35] but they can't really edit a page [13:10:46] Well, page was empty. [13:10:52] Blank, didnt even show the wiki [13:11:33] I added #ca-viewsource { display: none; } [13:11:38] in the link you mentioned "common" [13:11:39] didnt worked :( [13:11:52] clear the cache of your browser [13:11:57] Right [13:11:59] forgot that, hehe [13:12:08] Which version of MediaWiki are you using? [13:12:18] latest from the site, installed last week [13:12:46] Oh, curious. [13:12:51] If I change the default theme. [13:12:56] Will this effect the current users as well? [13:15:07] I'm not sure about that [13:16:24] mm [13:17:35] hiding viewing source is easier said then done [13:18:15] str4nd, do you know an extension that works that has a "per page side menu" and "sidemenu per group permission"? [13:18:31] And OverlordQ, I don't see how. Removing it from the templates should work I assume. [13:31:09] 14(DUP) Losting indentation in table of contents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19805 +comment (10hartman) [13:31:11] 03(mod) Vector skin TOC tabbing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19795 +comment (10hartman) [13:31:37] Soo, anyone? :D [13:31:53] something happened to Vector's tabble of contents display. [13:31:57] its not indented [13:32:27] !bug 19795 [13:32:27] --mwbot-- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19795 [13:32:33] Viper550: ^^^^ [13:35:00] No one? :( [13:40:09] Possible someone can help me? [13:40:36] As of recently, I installed ExtensionManager [13:40:43] Which seems to be part of StubManager [13:41:05] It doesnt matter if I disable ExtensionManager, and enable the extensions again manually in local settings [13:41:10] I keep getting errors. [13:41:17] When I disable Stubmanager, everything works. [13:41:23] How do I remove the extensionmanager completely? [13:44:35] nvm, got it :) [13:47:48] charitwo: implemented [13:47:55] 03minuteelectron * r53440 10/trunk/extensions/CategoryOnUpload/CategoryOnUpload.php: [13:47:55] CategoryOnUpload: [13:47:55] * Add variable for manually overriding the category list. [13:48:08] :o [13:49:21] grrr wfDebugBacktrace isn't spitting out any errors [13:49:50] oh wait, it doesn't output it, it returns it [13:50:30] 03raymond * r53441 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [13:50:30] Follow-up r53286: Fix some issues: [13:50:30] * Fix invalid HTML [13:50:30] * Show language code in list too (for consistency with Special:Preferences) [13:50:30] * Change CSS class/ID names to stick with our code standards (mw-...) [13:50:30] * Use more proper XML functions [13:50:32] * Add some messages for the input form instead of reusing messages from other forms to make i18n easier [13:50:44] OverlordQ; it returns the call stack [13:52:12] So [13:52:21] Anyone knows a good sidebar extension for both per page & usergroup? [13:53:48] ialex: yea, having to call wfDebug(wfDebugBacktrace()) is counter intuitive though :P [13:54:25] OverlordQ: or you can directly print it with wfBacktrace() :) [13:54:35] :-/ [13:54:56] *grumble*inconsistent naming*grumble* :P [13:55:21] will that output to debug log? [13:56:11] <^demon> Raymond_, Nikerabbit: Thanks for the fixes.\ [13:57:02] OverlordQ: will be echo'ed [14:00:13] Users in ko.wp are embarrassed by mediawiki containing North Korea's Juche calender :o [14:01:39] How do I set my search up so it automatically redirects to an article on full match? [14:02:35] Like, if I enter UK into the wiki search, it sends me to the /wiki/UK (a redirect) whereas my search would list all results for UK [14:02:47] 03(FIXED) Provide visual feedback for "Show only modified" status in [[Special:Allmessages]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7008 +comment (10innocentkiller) [14:02:51] Just great... [14:02:51] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CreateRedirect [14:02:52] doesnt work [14:03:39] It keeps asking for the phps file [14:04:15] nvm [14:04:20] "Fatal error: Class 'CreateRedirect' not found in" [14:04:26] Which means?.. [14:04:43] nvm, ugh.. [14:04:46] last version: 2007 [14:05:00] Some extensions needs to be checked to see if they still work [14:05:35] ok, crazy PHP question [14:05:55] Doesnt matter what I try, it doesnt work >_> [14:06:11] say Class B extends Class A, in B we have $a->doSomethingMagical() which is only defined in A [14:06:49] and in Class A, doSomethingMagical() calls $this->OtherThing and OtherThing is defined in A and B, will B::OtherThing get executed or will A::OtherThing [14:07:28] FF|Skyrider: Thanks for the attempt, but the problem is that if I search for a page's name, even if it matches exactly, I still get the search results page [14:07:42] 03demon * r53442 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialAllmessages.php: Accept the subpage value (ie: Special:Allmessages/fr) also [14:07:45] I've being experimenting with the API, and passing the pst flag to action=parse seems to differ based on whether I do a get or a post request - with a GET request I can send &pst& and it will pick it up, with POST I need to set &pst=1& for it to work - is there a reason for this? [14:08:36] <^demon> FF|Skyrider: Extensions not in SVN don't get the same attention. There's a lot of extensions that were made back in like '07 that haven't been touched since because they never got committed. [14:09:46] <^demon> OverlordQ: when referring to self::Something statically, it calls the actual self:: (ie: it doesn't get inherited like $this does) [14:12:15] <^demon> OverlordQ: Answer your question? [14:12:40] ok, let's use real case here. DatabasePostgres calls $this->query, DP doesn't define it so it's called from the baseclass Database, Database::query calls $this->doQuery, is it safe to assume in this case, it means DatabasePostgres::doQuery? [14:13:27] if that makes sense lol [14:13:59] <^demon> Yes. [14:14:22] <^demon> Think of it like this. When a subclass is used, it's as if it's flattened into one class. $this becomes the subclass. [14:14:29] ok [14:14:30] <^demon> However, like I mentioned, self:: does not. [14:14:47] <^demon> (see late static bindings in PHP 5.3 for how you can do that) [14:14:54] just trying to figure out some really pointless bug and fix it :) [14:15:06] how do i make an article display a different title [14:15:13]