[00:02:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) API Upload File doesn't request write rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19914  summary (10brion)
[00:07:48] <CIA-69>	03demon * r53733 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiUpload.php: (bug 19914) ApiUpload needs to use write mode.
[00:07:57] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) API Upload File doesn't request write rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19914  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[00:08:06] <brion>	\o/
[00:08:17] <^demon>	Heh
[00:08:55] <^demon>	I probably would've been faster on that if I wasn't watching CSI
[00:10:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Provide a method to allow alternate text for images to be provided at the file description page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19906  (10meno25wiki)
[00:11:02] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) <audio> controls size too big - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19915 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (alvaro.segura)
[00:14:47] <CIA-69>	03demon * r53734 10/trunk/phase3/includes/WebRequest.php: Declare visibility on almost all of these, minor code style tweaks.
[00:14:53] <thedj>	brion: mediawiki:sharedupload was renamed, but is it also no longer in use at all now ?
[00:16:13] <CIA-69>	03demon * r53735 10/trunk/phase3/includes/WebRequest.php: Forgot to declare $mFixMagicQuotes.
[00:16:24] <brion>	don't know offhand
[00:17:34] <CIA-69>	03demon * r53736 10/trunk/phase3/includes/WebRequest.php: ;
[00:18:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Redirects in search not properly handled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19662  +comment (10brion)
[00:19:49] <CIA-69>	03mrzman * r53737 10/trunk/phase3/includes/HttpFunctions.php: Fix a couple notices/strict warnings
[00:20:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) API Upload File doesn't request write rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19914  (10robe)
[00:22:44] <petey>	hi
[00:23:07] <petey>	I'm getting an error when trying to install an extension on my site
[00:23:11] <petey>	perhaps someone could help ?
[00:23:25] <petey>	the error is related to the extension http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList
[00:23:25] <^demon>	What error & what extension?
[00:23:25] *OverlordQ 	pokes ^demon
[00:23:37] <petey>	the error is svn: Working copy '/mnt/upload5/private/ExtensionDistributor/mw-snapshot/branches/REL1_13/extensions' locked
[00:23:38] <petey>	svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
[00:23:55] <OverlordQ>	Fatal error: Access level to FauxRequest::$headers must be public (as in class WebRequest) in includes/WebRequest.php on line 745
[00:24:04] *thedj 	ponders on how to get an interwiki link to take into account secure server users....
[00:26:53] <OverlordQ>	WebRequest does var $headers while FauxRequest does private $headers.
[00:27:54] <^demon>	Done.
[00:28:09] <CIA-69>	03demon * r53738 10/trunk/phase3/includes/WebRequest.php: Make $headers protected and declare it as an empty array.
[00:34:41] <petey>	demon ?
[00:41:59] <Blizzerand>	Where are all the html pages made saved in wikis
[00:42:22] <charitwo>	HTML pages????????
[00:42:53] <cirwin>	Blizzerand: it is saved as wikitext, and possibly cached in the database or elsewhere depending on setup
[00:43:45] <Blizzerand>	I have the mediawiki 1.15 and is it possible to know the specific folder ??
[00:43:53] <cirwin>	it isn't on the disk
[00:43:56] <cirwin>	it's in the database
[00:43:58] <cirwin>	in mysql
[00:44:38] <Blizzerand>	k
[00:46:36] <Blizzerand>	Its in /etc/ , right < sorry , I am quite new to these things>
[00:47:26] <cirwin>	Blizzerand: what are you looking for?
[00:48:10] <Blizzerand>	I had a file in my localhost which I cannot find for some reason . So I was searching the database .
[00:49:29] <cirwin>	often the web directory is in /var/www or /home/www - but mediawiki generated content is in the database
[00:52:49] <petey>	Hi I'm getting an extension error on install
[00:52:52] <petey>	can someone help ?
[00:56:23] <Robe>	Is there a way to _include_ stuff into MediaWiki:Common.css?
[00:56:30] <Robe>	apparently most of the interpolation/parsing doesn't apply there
[00:56:34] <cirwin>	using CSS @import ?
[00:56:56] <Robe>	you... might have a point there ;)
[00:57:08] <Robe>	thanks!
[00:57:12] <cirwin>	np
[01:04:35] <Robe>	mhh. not too great.
[01:05:08] <cirwin>	what's the problem?
[01:05:31] <Robe>	a native templating/import would be very helpful because you can never tell how the url rewriting is going to look like
[01:05:45] <Robe>	if you want the css to be stored in the wiki, that is
[01:05:54] <cirwin>	it would be really really hard to make sure that everything was behaving nicely though
[01:06:13] <cirwin>	var template = '{{delete}}'; 
[01:06:32] <cirwin>	(actually still put the page into category delete, last time I checked)
[01:07:08] <cirwin>	but should that string then contain the string '{{delete}}', or the contents of [[Template:delete]], or the contents of [[Template:delete]] with all ' and \ escaped
[01:08:58] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) Redirects in search not properly handled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19662  (10tparscal)
[01:09:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) mobile-l feedback system issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19623  (10hcatlin)
[01:09:51] <Robe>	yup, templating is bat country
[01:10:51] <Robe>	we're planning to release a infrastructure documentation toolchain based on mediawiki where we need to ship a few css stanzas but still want the users to be able to do their own styling without interfering with that too much
[01:11:35] <cirwin>	you have the skin stylesheets, common.css, monobook.css and User:<blah>/monobook.css to play with
[01:12:08] <cirwin>	(not to mention the possibility of putting them in the skin.php or in any of the javascript includes)
[01:13:01] <Robe>	yep, if we don't have to touch the filesystem that's a plus, and we didn't want to take over common.css completely, just including our stuff there
[01:13:40] <Robe>	should requests to index.php?... work even when url rewriting is in place?
[01:13:44] <Robe>	hm
[01:13:46] <Robe>	I guess so
[01:13:47] <cirwin>	yes
[01:14:00] <Robe>	ok, great
[01:14:08] <Robe>	that might be a viable way then ;)
[01:17:15] <CIA-69>	03alexsh * r53739 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (fixTimestamps.php importTextFile.php userOptions.php): remove wrong prop
[01:26:08] <cirwin>	^demon|afk: If and when you have the inclination to put it in svn, the Transliterator extension is at http://jelzo.com/Transliterator.tar
[01:26:22] <cirwin>	thank you, and goodnight
[01:33:51] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Techblog: Add Vimeo Plugin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19916 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (hcatlin)
[01:36:54] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Weird unclosed anchor tags showing up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19917 enhancement; Normal; Wikipedia Mobile: server; (hcatlin)
[01:38:34] *AaronSchulz 	likes how $wgUploadDirectory has no effect
[01:38:39] <CIA-69>	03demon * r53740 10/trunk/extensions/Transliterator/ (. Transliterator.i18n.php Transliterator.php): Commit Transliterator extension for Cirwin.
[01:40:12] <^demon|afk>	svn sucks.
[01:40:24] <apergos>	hahaha
[01:40:39] <^demon|afk>	5 kBytes transferred in 2 minutes and 48 seconds
[01:40:41] <^demon|afk>	5 kBytes transferred in 2 minutes and 48 seconds.
[01:40:45] <^demon|afk>	Wtf?
[01:40:51] <apergos>	wow
[01:40:55] <apergos>	someon's connection sux
[01:41:11] <apergos>	(mine sucks too but that' cause it's comcast :-( ) 
[01:49:14] <p858snake>	hmm i thought vimeo already gave embed code that works in code view....
[01:49:23] <p858snake>	*of wordpress
[01:57:21] <AaronSchulz>	there we go
[01:58:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod) After using revision deletion on a file, no change is shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19912  (10JSchulz_4587)
[02:00:44] <AaronSchulz>	    * (show/hide) 01:57, 25 July 2009 WikiSysop (Talk | contribs | block) changed revision visibility of <a href="/MW_trunk/phase3/index.php/File:Tree.jpg" title="File:Tree.jpg">File:Tree.jpg</a>: hid username for 1 revision ‎ (change visibility)
[02:00:51] <AaronSchulz>	wtf?
[02:03:00] <AaronSchulz>	hmm, someone fixed it...works with svn up
[02:08:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) After using revision deletion on a file, no change is shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19912  (10JSchulz_4587)
[02:27:14] <infinisoft>	Dantman
[02:28:21] <Dantman>	What?
[02:29:50] <infinisoft>	Sorry, See PM :p
[02:40:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod) en.Wikinews would like to make Vector the default skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19865  (10nkomura)
[02:43:22] <infinisoft>	Woo Vector
[02:44:46] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Indicate Blank Article Links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19489  +comment (10hcatlin)
[02:51:21] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Cannot view Special:Contributions (possible regression from r53534) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19845  (10accnospamtom)
[02:57:19] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) No copy text functionality. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19918 enhancement; Normal; Wikipedia Mobile: server; (malrase)
[03:21:39] <Splarka>	Robe: relative stylesheet loads to index.php like '@import "index.php?title=foo";' won't work if the wiki has "pretty" urls
[03:22:12] <Splarka>	like on en.wp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar  would try to load it as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/index.php
[03:22:21] <Splarka>	and even worse for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC/DC
[03:22:36] <Splarka>	and you can't guess/assume a root path like /w/index.php
[03:25:15] <CIA-69>	03dale * r53741 10/trunk/phase3/ (8 files in 7 dirs): 
[03:25:15] <CIA-69>	* updates for strict compliance mode chunk uploading
[03:25:15] <CIA-69>	* fixes for firefogg multiple forms on the special upload page.
[03:25:18] <Cain>	Hi, by default mediawiki enables the /index.php/ how to remove it ?
[03:26:40] <charitwo>	!shorturl | cain
[03:26:40] --mwbot--	cain: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL>. There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem
[03:26:57] <Cain>	charitwo : thanx :)
[03:27:06] <charitwo>	you're welcome 
[03:27:40] <Cain>	it causes me problems when i create virtualhosts for the wiki :/
[03:30:10] <Cain>	!rewriteproblem
[03:30:10] --mwbot--	1) Try <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access> as a fail-safe method; 2) Do not put the files into the document root; 3) Do not map the pages into the document root; 4) Use different, non-overlapping paths for real files and virtual pages; 5) Do not set a RewriteBase; 6) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root.
[04:10:26] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Article count in Special:Statistics incorrect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19919 major; Normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[04:10:56] <Splarka>	MAJOR omg!
[04:12:04] <infinisoft>	Oh noes, estimates
[04:14:37] <apergos>	this is a new bug?
[04:14:50] <apergos>	er new bug report, I mean :-P
[04:21:14] <Prodego>	says 'NEW'
[04:21:23] <Prodego>	so most likely, although the bot lies occasionaly
[04:21:57] <p858snake>	no its new
[04:30:36] <apergos>	huh
[04:32:33] <Annemarie>	It's rare that the bot lies about (NEW).
[04:35:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) m.wikipedia.org is not validating - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19594  (10hcatlin)
[04:35:40] <Splarka>	Annemarie: but sometimes it puts (NEW) after a (mod)
[04:40:12] <Cait>	Alrighty, i have a question - Is there any function in mediawiki where i can "calculate" something.. say  30 * 2.5 - WITHOUT using an extention?
[04:43:59] <AaronSchulz>	http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_g105m_us.html
[04:44:06] <AaronSchulz>	'GeForce G105M GPUs play all the latest games with all the detail, lighting and special effects the way they were meant to be played.'
[04:44:08] <AaronSchulz>	LOL
[04:51:00] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Weird unclosed anchor tags showing up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19917  +comment (10hcatlin)
[04:52:58] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Geolocation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19920 enhancement; Normal; Wikipedia Mobile: server; (hcatlin)
[04:55:47] <OverlordQ>	Cait: no, you'll need parserfunctions for that
[04:56:03] <Cait>	='( no hack to get around it?
[04:56:48] <OverlordQ>	define hack?
[04:56:58] <OverlordQ>	using magical wikitext?
[04:57:03] <OverlordQ>	or editing the code?
[04:57:06] <Cait>	well, for example
[04:57:07] <Cait>	um
[04:57:14] <Cait>	to get around another lack of parserfuntions
[04:57:29] <Splarka>	lots and lots of subpages
[04:57:40] <Cait>	to make a table row not display, we did
[04:57:40] <Cait>	|bgcolor="#EEEEEE" align="center" width="5%" style="display:none{{{sAIR|}}};"|'''AIR Tolerance'''
[04:57:40] <Cait>	|bgcolor="#FAFAFA" align="center" width="15%" style="display:none{{{sAIR|}}};"| {{{AIR|}}}
[04:58:08] <Splarka>	{{add|5|6}} -> {{add/{{{1}}}/{{{2}}}}} where [[Template:Add/5/6]] contains '11'
[04:59:37] <Cait>	Er, sorry im kinda somewhat noob at wiki editing still ><  what i wanna do is from a template page do |HP=400 and then |EXP= {{{HP}}}*2.5
[04:59:41] <Cait>	if that makes sense...
[05:00:02] <OverlordQ>	the easiest way is to just use parser functions
[05:00:25] <Cait>	It's for an MMO wiki, and they havent installed it :/ we put in a request for it awhile ago, and nothing...
[05:00:26] <OverlordQ>	otherwise you'd be stuck doing splarkas evil subpage cluster
[05:00:27] <MrZ-man>	Splarka: haha
[05:00:42] <Splarka>	yah, good luck with floating multiplication tables
[05:01:10] <OverlordQ>	awww, they'd only have to create like 5000 pages
[05:01:30] <Splarka>	you just /can't/ do it
[05:01:36] <Cait>	Alright, thanks ^^.
[05:01:41] <Splarka>	enter HP and EXP as two parameters
[05:01:45] <Splarka>	keep requesting 
[05:01:48] <Cait>	Yeah thats what i'll have to do
[05:01:59] <Splarka>	wow, if only en.wp would realize that
[05:02:03] <Cait>	i just have to hope the stupid people who edit it wont try to figure EXP out by killing the monster themselves -.-
[05:02:32] <OverlordQ>	like splarka mentioned if you always know what it is then just type it in
[05:03:59] <Splarka>	or do both
[05:04:08] <Cait>	Yep, well alright thanks again ^_^
[05:04:10] <Cait>	bai =3
[05:04:25] <Splarka>	|HP=9000|EXP=22500
[05:04:30] <Splarka>	bah, quitter
[05:04:56] <infinisoft>	lol
[05:05:01] <Splarka>	HP={{{HP}}}, EXP={{{EXP}}} ({{{HP}}}*2.5)
[05:05:05] *Splarka 	finishes anyway
[05:05:27] <infinisoft>	For completeness
[05:05:38] <Splarka>	about 9 thousand
[05:26:12] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Font sizes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19921 enhancement; Normal; Wikipedia Mobile: server; (malrase)
[05:27:13] <Splarka>	hcatlin: yknow, ^ bugs like these aren't so bad when you see the component and product
[05:27:23] <Splarka>	but every (mod) notice excludes those
[05:27:34] <Splarka>	summary++
[05:35:36] <Rgoodermote>	Hey, how can I get my hands on this http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/wmf-deployment/?pathrev=53741 ?  SVN is failing for me today so I can't just do what I usually do...unless there is some strange reason that is.
[05:39:30] <Rgoodermote>	Any takers to answering that?
[05:41:25] <OverlordQ>	unless you're bugfixing you probalby dont want that branch
[05:41:32] <Rgoodermote>	...the answer is..I do.
[05:42:27] <OverlordQ>	but *shrug* wfm
[05:43:01] <Rgoodermote>	So how would I go about getting said branch without SVN and without manual? I'm getting this odd error with everything related to SVN today..even when getting snapshots from the site.
[05:44:37] *Splarka 	leaves http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/?path=/branches/wmf-deployment/ for OverlordQ for "you might want to be aware of" ammo
[05:45:29] *Rgoodermote 	really doesn't care about any known bugs. In fact it is his desire to work with a buggy bit of software.
[05:45:38] <OverlordQ>	it's not known bugs
[05:45:45] <OverlordQ>	it's WMF specific hacks that are in that branch
[05:45:56] <Rgoodermote>	.....................
[05:46:14] <Rgoodermote>	WMF (Wikimedia Foundation)
[05:46:15] <hcatlin>	Splarka: can you explain that better?
[05:46:20] <Rgoodermote>	I know.
[05:46:45] <Rgoodermote>	I have no desire to have it be my main version, I just want to toy with it.
[05:46:49] <OverlordQ>	That specific branch has specific edits not in the normal trunk version to work around things specificly for Wikipedia and related projects
[05:47:13] <Splarka>	hcatlin, when it is edited it'll look like: <wikibugs> (mod) Geolocation - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19920 +comment (foobar)
[05:47:20] <Splarka>	and someone'll say "boy, that is a stupid summary"
[05:47:32] <Rgoodermote>	....not to be rude, but I can tell from the whole WMF part.
[05:47:51] <hcatlin>	ahhh
[05:47:56] <hcatlin>	eh, it is a stupid summary
[05:48:00] <hcatlin>	its because its undefined
[05:48:08] <hcatlin>	but, developers wanted some direction
[05:48:09] <hcatlin>	so...
[05:48:13] <Rgoodermote>	So. again, how can I get it without SVN and manual labor?
[05:48:19] <Splarka>	because it won't have "Wikipedia Mobile: server;" attached as it did with the (NEW)
[05:48:37] <OverlordQ>	Rgoodermote: bribe somebody else to download it for you?
[05:48:57] <Rgoodermote>	That would totally work
[05:49:18] <Rgoodermote>	Is it obtainable through SVN at all or do you seriously have to do it all manually?
[05:50:33] <Splarka>	hcatlin: anyway, was trying to hint for more summary goodness, like "investigate implementing geolocation in mobile site" or such ^_^
[05:50:53] <Splarka>	and "allow custom font sizes on Wikipedia Mobile"
[05:51:58] <OverlordQ>	Rgoodermote: it's available through svn, just do a checkout
[05:52:05] <Rgoodermote>	Checkout fails
[05:52:16] <OverlordQ>	with what error?
[05:52:29] <Rgoodermote>	"File moved permanently"
[05:52:39] <Rgoodermote>	And when I try to get snapshots I get "svn: Working copy '/mnt/upload5/private/ExtensionDistributor/mw-snapshot/branches/REL1_15/extensions' locked
[05:52:41] <OverlordQ>	you're probably using the wrong url then
[05:52:41] <Rgoodermote>	svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)"
[05:52:55] <Rgoodermote>	It started today, first time I've had any problems.
[05:53:11] <OverlordQ>	svn co -r 53741 http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/branches/wmf-deployment/
[05:53:22] <OverlordQ>	that will pull in a metric ton of extensions you probably dont want as well
[05:53:23] <Rgoodermote>	I use tortoise
[05:53:34] <Rgoodermote>	Because I can't get the command line one to work on Vista.
[05:53:50] <OverlordQ>	*shrug* tell tortioise to checkout that rev at the url then
[05:54:16] <Rgoodermote>	Still gotta explain that odd error up there with snapshots
[05:54:39] *OverlordQ 	points topic
[05:54:47] <OverlordQ>	"ExtensionDistributor is broken at the moment"
[05:55:00] *Rgoodermote 	slaps self
[05:56:19] <Rgoodermote>	Hm, well I am going to restart my computer...because Vista is Vista....thanks again for the assistance despite my rudeness (didn't mean to be rude, just really want to sleep)
[05:57:20] <p858snake>	wait, what wmf specific hacks do we even have?
[05:58:50] <Splarka>	p858snake, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/?path=/branches/wmf-deployment/
[06:31:49] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) UTF-8 characters in <math> don't work properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798  +comment (10grin)
[06:47:22] <Nikerabbit>	funny
[06:47:37] <Nikerabbit>	first deprecate and few hours later depreciate
[06:53:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Show/hide options on watchlist only work once - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19442  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[07:23:16] <CIA-69>	03shinjiman * r53742 10/trunk/phase3/includes/GlobalFunctions.php: Tweak to use lowercase on other cases, which follows r53720 and r53722.
[07:32:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Warning: putenv(): Safe Mode warning: Cannot set environment variable 'TZ' - it's not in the allowed list Parser.php on line 2851 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2658  (10shinjiman)
[07:55:52] <CIA-69>	03shinjiman * r53743 10/trunk/tools/planet/ro/ (. config.ini templates/index.html.tmpl): 
[07:55:52] <CIA-69>	adding stub planet for ro
[07:55:52] <CIA-69>	see also: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Planet_Wikimedia/New_language
[08:02:09] <shogun_>	hello
[08:06:10] <Shinjiman>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Commit_access_requests
[08:06:29] <Shinjiman>	Currently 18 users are awaiting their avn account. :P
[08:06:39] <shogun_>	by any chance does anyone have any suggestions on how to get the en.wikipedia db dump, possibly by snailmail?
[08:06:41] <Shinjiman>	Currently 18 users are awaiting their svn account. :P
[08:06:50] <shogun_>	am travelling and have very intermitten net access, not enough to just download it
[08:06:57] <shogun_>	intermittent
[08:07:16] <shogun_>	would be very nice to have for wikitaxi, due to the intermittent acess above
[08:24:25] <shogun_>	hmm i guess everyone is too busy deleting articles for not being notable enough or something
[08:39:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) m.wikipedia.org is not validating - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19594  (10jddcef)
[08:40:01] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) About ctrl+dragging - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19922 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (ericjengej)
[09:29:22] <roberthl>	Wow, why does everyone want to use the wmf branch all of a sudden?
[09:36:00] <p858snake>	roberthl: because they think its special
[09:45:28] <Blizzerand>	Hello there I use mediawiki 1.15 in linux . Can anyone direct me where the wiki files I created are saved ( I mean the data)
[09:49:03] <OverlordQ>	in the database
[09:49:35] <Blizzerand>	Another stupid question, where is that
[09:55:18] <Blizzerand>	OverlordQ : ....
[09:57:15] <Xteven>	is it mysql ?
[09:57:52] <Blizzerand>	Yes
[09:58:16] <Xteven>	check in /var/lib/mysql
[09:58:40] <Xteven>	those are the files
[09:58:54] <Xteven>	if you need to modify them, best use the mysql command, not an editor
[10:01:16] <Blizzerand>	I think I found it . And FYI its not to modify them 
[10:03:08] <thedj>	damn. i just can't come up with a good way to create a commons -> en link that will work for both normal as secure servers...
[10:13:28] <Elektryk91>	hi
[10:16:07] <Elektryk91>	Is the extension fo "1.6.x, 1.9.x, 1.10.x or higher" compatible with 1.14 MW? Because i instaled a shoutbox extension and it's not working 
[10:16:22] *RoanKattouw 	looks
[10:16:26] <RoanKattouw>	!e ShoutBox
[10:16:26] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ShoutBox
[10:17:04] <RoanKattouw>	Elektryk91: Does it show up in Special:Version ?
[10:19:17] <Elektryk91>	Yes, http://borealis.x-12.pl/wiki/index.php/Specjalna:Wersja but when i add {{#ShoutBox:Elektryk}} to my talk site it show a error: http://borealis.x-12.pl/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Elektryk
[10:20:15] <RoanKattouw>	From reading the source, the ID must be numeric
[10:21:09] <Elektryk91>	ok, thanks, it work
[10:21:41] <CIA-69>	03purodha * r53744 10/trunk/extensions/Transliterator/ (Transliterator.i18n.php Transliterator.php): Message documentation added, ksh messages added, minor standardisations.
[11:07:53] <Blizzerand>	I just made a mysqlcheck and I can't even find a single true after the check . Why is that
[11:22:24] <yannf>	how the Special:PopularPages are counted?
[11:23:28] <yannf>	I have 8805 pages in Special:PopularPages, but only 8731 in {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}
[11:23:48] <yannf>	and 11,223 pages in namespace 0
[11:24:07] <yannf>	{{PAGESINNAMESPACE:0}}
[11:50:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Vector skin does not indent subsection headers in table of contents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19790  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[11:56:20] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Flood flag for es.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19923 normal; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (dferg-wiki)
[11:57:33] <Blizzerand>	Anyone still here . I get some error which I could use help with
[11:58:01] <Blizzerand>	A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
[11:58:02] <Blizzerand>	    (SQL query hidden)
[11:58:05] <Blizzerand>	from within function "efUpdateCheckUserData". MySQL returned error "1146: Table 'wikidb.cu_changes' doesn't exist (localhost)".
[11:59:57] <Blizzerand>	I was trying to upload a picture
[12:02:44] <Blizzerand>	Ah never mind I disabled CheckUser and solved
[12:09:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Flood flag for es.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19923  (10dferg-wiki)
[12:53:24] <rombeck>	VasilVV & AlexSm fucked in anus by big cock of Afinogenoff ! Gomo !
[12:53:38] <rombeck>	Afinogenoff on Wheels
[12:55:23] <rombeck>	Whip, accept a homosexuality. after 2007 can be granted sysop rights to user without homosexuality acception
[12:57:22] <^demon>	Op, please?
[12:57:57] <rombeck>	^demon, i'm Роман Беккер from Russian Wikipedia, sockpuppeteer of Arbitration Committee
[12:59:58] <rombeck>	putnik is Sergay Leshina, romanobekkerast from Wikipedia; also, read http://zomaho.livejournal.com for acception
[13:00:40] <rombeck>	[[internal]]
[13:01:47] <ashley>	^demon: done
[13:01:56] <^demon>	Thanks. How do I get op access here?
[13:02:14] <roberthl>	Random chance.
[13:02:16] <ashley>	poke brion or Fire
[13:02:49] <^demon>	k.
[13:37:47] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Disabled InnoDB engine and "no substitution" SQL mode yields installation error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5129  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[13:40:16] <Amir1>	When this bug wil be closed?[[Bugzilla:19642]]
[13:41:13] <^demon>	!b 19642
[13:41:13] --mwbot--	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19642
[13:42:06] <^demon>	Amir1: I guess when Rob gets a chance to make the config change. It's been assigned to the right person though.
[13:43:00] <Amir1>	from assiging to him 11 day ago
[13:46:43] <^demon>	Amir1: I dunno, he's a busy guy. He'll get to it when he gets a chance though.
[13:47:54] <Amir1>	but may he can't see wiki for a month
[13:48:23] *^demon 	shrugs
[13:54:31] <Amir1>	can nobody assign this?
[14:00:23] <Prentice>	hello
[14:00:31] <Prentice>	I need help on a wiki bot
[14:11:01] <CIA-69>	03demon * r53745 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/svggraph/svgGraph.php: Use wfSuppressWarnings()/wfRestoreWarnings() per CR on r39789. Also remove trailing ?>
[14:11:42] <RoanKattouw>	Amir1: Rob will get to it when he gets to it. He's a paid employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, it's his job to tend to this kind of stuff
[14:17:34] <Amir1>	OK
[14:18:57] <wikibugs>	03(mod) localize value acceptance of function <ref name= /> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19804  (10roan.kattouw)
[14:23:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New parameter for file size and or image dimensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19811  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[14:23:59] <FireJackey>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:ExtensionDistributor
[14:24:01] <FireJackey>	svn: Working copy '/mnt/upload5/private/ExtensionDistributor/mw-snapshot/branches/REL1_15/extensions' locked
[14:24:03] <FireJackey>	svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
[14:24:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) localize value acceptance of function <ref name= /> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19804  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[14:24:08] <RoanKattouw>	FireJackey: See topic
[14:24:20] <Prentice>	Hi
[14:25:05] <Prentice>	Is antone here?
[14:27:08] <FireJackey>	:P
[14:27:41] <Prentice>	is anyone here who can help me?
[14:28:53] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Incorrect language of log enteries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19844  +comment (10danny.leinad)
[14:29:06] <CIA-69>	03demon * r53746 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Interwiki.php): (bug 10812) Interwiki links can have names and descriptions, fetched from message 'interwiki-desc-PREFIX', not really used anywhere yet though
[14:29:07] <RoanKattouw>	Prentice: Just ask your question
[14:29:41] <Prentice>	oh sorry :P
[14:29:46] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Interwiki links could use descriptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10812  summary; +comment (10innocentkiller)
[14:30:37] <Prentice>	How to create a wikibot? umm here is a link to the yahoo answer... I have posted it on media wiki help but h here is the link http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AkbIUSgnGfBqE5iA0SO_rFIgBgx.;_ylv=3?qid=20090725064308AAzuMnT
[14:39:00] <Alphos>	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bot is a little Wikimedia-centered, but you will find interesting info, Prentice
[14:39:27] <Prentice>	thanks
[14:39:47] <Alphos>	you might want to read http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API too
[14:40:14] <CIA-69>	03demon * r53747 10/branches/new-installer/phase3/ (871 files in 47 dirs): Merge r45494-r53746 from trunk. Want to try and revive this :)
[14:40:30] <Prentice>	ok thanks
[14:42:15] <Alphos>	it all depends on how much you want to do in your bot
[14:42:35] <Nikerabbit>	RoanKattouw: I disagree with you :)
[14:42:49] <Alphos>	make one from scratch, or just give it basic instructions
[14:42:58] <RoanKattouw>	Nikerabbit: On what, exactly?
[14:43:09] <Nikerabbit>	RoanKattouw: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/53613#c3284
[14:43:21] <Nikerabbit>	RoanKattouw: maybe api should upgrade its spyc
[14:43:29] <RoanKattouw>	Ah, right
[14:44:02] <RoanKattouw>	I wasn't suggesting the code be removed or anything, just wanted to point this out since no one else seemed to have notice
[14:44:03] <RoanKattouw>	d
[14:44:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New parameter for file size and or image dimensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19811  (10subfader)
[14:44:20] <RoanKattouw>	But if it makes sense to put SPYC into core, by all means do so
[14:45:00] <Nikerabbit>	RoanKattouw: I just argue the issue doesn't exists anymore, but on the other hand I don't want to audit the code line by line
[14:45:14] <^demon>	wtf svn borked halfway through.
[14:45:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Batch-rename 作者: to Author: on zhwikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19821  (10N/A)
[14:45:47] <Nikerabbit>	:O
[14:46:00] <RoanKattouw>	Nikerabbit: Then I suggest you just do it and let Tim worry about that :P
[14:46:21] <RoanKattouw>	He seemed perfectly happy to let the rest of SPYC survive, so if the one issue he noticed is fixed, it should be no problem
[14:50:58] <Nikerabbit>	RoanKattouw: comparing the codes, it should be fixed.. there is not two load functions, instead of one
[14:52:36] <Prentice>	I have AWB how do I edit aload of pages which allhave the same content?
[14:52:47] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: wfMsgForContent? where are those used?
[14:53:08] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: Nowhere yet.
[14:53:27] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: are they always in content language?
[14:53:37] <^demon>	But for content seemed to make more sense. Same way we do foreign repo descriptions.
[14:53:44] <Nikerabbit>	hmh
[14:53:57] <Nikerabbit>	the only reason for it if it ends up somewhere in the content
[14:54:04] <Nikerabbit>	+is
[14:56:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) jQuery is breaking mwsuggest preventing users of Opera 8 to log into en.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19586  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[14:56:31] <^demon>	Hell.
[14:56:52] <^demon>	I can't commit until I cleanup. I can't cleanup until I unlock. And there's nothing to unlock :-\
[14:59:09] <Templarian>	Is it possible to put a table in a templates parameter? |foo={| etc... because those "|" seem to kill it.
[15:00:48] <RoanKattouw>	Templarian: Replace the | with {{!}}
[15:01:15] <Templarian>	Thanks RoanKattouw
[15:04:39] <Templarian>	RoanKattouw: do you have an example of how to use that?
[15:04:56] <RoanKattouw>	Not offhand
[15:05:16] <RoanKattouw>	Just replace all occurrences of | used as a table character with {{!}}
[15:05:28] <^demon>	Heh, LocalizationCache breaks the new-installer :p
[15:05:36] <RoanKattouw>	Which should work at least on Wikipedia
[15:05:41] <RoanKattouw>	^demon: It also breaks parser tests
[15:05:54] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Add Media Wizard should list local wiki files as well as remote sources - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19863  +comment (10j)
[15:06:10] <Templarian>	RoanKattouw: oh just realised that i have to make the template for !
[15:06:21] <^demon>	RoanKattouw: It breaks a lot of things :-\
[15:06:21] <RoanKattouw>	Yes. Just put a single | in it
[15:06:38] <RoanKattouw>	Damn, it even broke update.php initially
[15:06:56] <^demon>	RoanKattouw: It's dying because of trying to use default user options
[15:07:16] <RoanKattouw>	Oh so it's related to prefs as well :D
[15:07:41] <^demon>	No, going in through parser options -> user -> load default stuff -> language stuff gets loaded -> BOOM!
[15:07:55] <^demon>	http://pastey.net/118566
[15:08:34] <RoanKattouw>	What's the error?
[15:08:37] <RoanKattouw>	Oh wait :D
[15:08:48] <RoanKattouw>	There is no l10n_cache table at install time, of course, silly me
[15:09:04] <RoanKattouw>	What the heck does it need a ParserOptions object for?
[15:09:23] <^demon>	The installer uses messages so it can be localized :)
[15:09:31] <RoanKattouw>	Ah, yes
[15:09:43] <RoanKattouw>	So it needs to grab messages no matter what
[15:09:52] <RoanKattouw>	I suggest you look at how Tim fixed update.php
[15:10:17] <RoanKattouw>	What I think you should do is somehow disable l10ncache so it won't try to pull messages from the DB
[15:10:52] <^demon>	A nice generic way to disable it (at least temporarily)
[15:10:59] <RoanKattouw>	Aye
[15:11:13] <RoanKattouw>	Just for special cases such as install and update
[15:11:19] <^demon>	The main issue here is trying to access the DB before we've set it up, which is the main point of failure in most cases.
[15:17:25] <^demon>	svn merge blows.
[15:23:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Export output missing XML encoding - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15914  (10roan.kattouw)
[15:23:26] <RoanKattouw>	^demon: How?
[15:24:20] <^demon>	RoanKattouw: Needlessly slow :-\
[15:24:31] <^demon>	Anywho, why not just make the i18n cache respect MW_NO_DB?
[15:24:39] <RoanKattouw>	What's that?
[15:25:08] <^demon>	Define that (I assume) indicates we don't have a DB connection we can use.
[15:25:39] <RoanKattouw>	Right
[15:26:04] <RoanKattouw>	Sounds like tricky business
[15:26:45] <RoanKattouw>	Because the installer and updater themselves should disregard it
[15:26:57] <RoanKattouw>	Also, what can and can't be done during update.php is a lot trickier
[15:29:09] <^demon>	Yeah. One of my near future goals.
[15:29:25] <^demon>	Installer and updater both need major overhauls.
[15:35:08] <yannf>	I have 8805 pages in Special:PopularPages, but only 8731 in {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}
[15:35:15] <yannf>	and 11,223 pages in namespace 0 {{PAGESINNAMESPACE:0}}
[15:35:21] <yannf>	how the Special:PopularPages are counted?
[15:35:34] <RoanKattouw>	yannf: I'll look at that ,sec
[15:36:01] <RoanKattouw>	yannf: Non-redirects in the main namespace
[15:36:44] <yannf>	does {{PAGESINNAMESPACE:0}} include redirects?
[15:36:52] <RoanKattouw>	Yes
[15:37:03] <yannf>	ah ok
[15:37:08] <RoanKattouw>	I think so at least; try adding a redirect and check the numbers again
[15:37:40] <yannf>	is there a magic word for all articles except redirects?
[15:37:51] <RoanKattouw>	Not that I know of
[15:38:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Blank toolbar. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19847  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[15:38:42] <yannf>	it seems that there are 8805-8721=84 articles which are not counted
[15:39:22] <RoanKattouw>	yannf: My guess is those 84 articles don't link anywhere
[15:39:27] <RoanKattouw>	Which disqualifies them from being an article
[15:39:28] <yannf>	yes probably
[15:39:49] <yannf>	is there a way to make a calculation with advanced parser functions?
[15:40:09] <Alphos>	{{#expr: }} no ?
[15:40:29] <Alphos>	{{#expr: 2+5}} gives 7
[15:40:43] <Alphos>	IIRC
[15:41:13] <RoanKattouw>	Yes
[15:41:24] <yannf>	yes, but how do I calculate {{NUMBEROFREDIRECTS}}?
[15:41:56] <yannf>	so I could do {{#expr: {{PAGESINNAMESPACE:0}} - {{NUMBEROFREDIRECTS}} }}
[15:43:05] <RoanKattouw>	You mean  {{#expr: {{PAGESINNAMESPACE:0}} - {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} }} ?
[15:43:19] <RoanKattouw>	That'd give an approximation of the number of redirects, but would very likely be too high
[15:44:06] <Alphos>	you could add a category on all redirect from main namespace
[15:44:09] <Alphos>	then use {{PAGESINCATEGORY:categoryname}}
[15:44:14] <yannf>	I got the 8805 figure here: http://wikilivres.info/w/index.php?title=Special:PopularPages&limit=100&offset=8800
[15:44:18] <Alphos>	(expensive parser function)
[15:44:57] <yannf>	but I would like to display that, because that the real number of articles
[15:46:08] <yannf>	display on the Main Page
[16:24:42] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: imho the l10n cache should fail gracefully if there is no db
[16:25:10] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: It can, if  you call Language::getLocalizationCache()->disableBackend()
[16:25:26] <Nikerabbit>	that's not graceful :)
[16:30:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Export output missing XML encoding - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15914  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[16:58:01] <CIA-69>	03demon * r53748 10/branches/new-installer/phase3/ (850 files in 46 dirs): Revert botched merge. Damn you svn.
[16:59:27] <MrZ-man>	850 files in 46 dirs? /me makes sure to ignore that one in email
[17:01:17] <^demon>	I hate svn today.
[17:25:08] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Expand all - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19924 enhancement; Normal; Wikipedia Mobile: server; (malrase)
[17:27:39] <CIA-69>	03demon * r53749 10/branches/new-installer/phase3/ (19 files in 9 dirs): Couple of files I missed from the revert.
[17:28:39] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) action=upload should be added to the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15227  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[17:34:45] <CIA-69>	03rotem * r53750 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update.
[17:37:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Disabled fields in filter detail view difficult to read - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19266  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[17:40:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) File upload error messages don't properly take $wgFileBlacklist into account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18372  (10dale)
[17:41:16] <CIA-69>	03rotem * r53751 10/trunk/extensions/WikimediaMessages/WikimediaMessages.i18n.php: It seems that 'wikimedia' became 'ikimedia' in message keys in this extension in r53663, for no apparent reason. Reverting back, will be reported in translatewiki.
[17:49:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Cross-domain AJAX request support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19907  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[17:50:27] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: what revert? :o
[17:50:46] <roberthl>	16:58:01 < CIA-69> demon * r53748 /branches/new-installer/phase3/ (850 files in 46 dirs): Revert botched merge. Damn you svn.
[17:50:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) UTF-8 characters in <math> don't work properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798  (10fibonacci.prower)
[17:51:14] <Nikerabbit>	uhm
[17:52:38] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Landscape issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19925 enhancement; Normal; Wikipedia Mobile: server; (malrase)
[17:53:49] <flyingparchment>	"not enough trees"
[17:58:52] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) ProofreadPage: add ability to use normal textbox in index pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19926 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: ProofreadPage; (enomil)
[18:06:01] <CIA-69>	03nikerabbit * r53752 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (Groups.php MessageGroups.php utils/StringMatcher.php): Revert to old interface for StringMangler + some other changes
[18:08:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod) localize value acceptance of function <ref name= /> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19804  (10roan.kattouw)
[18:11:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Export output missing XML encoding - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15914  (10roan.kattouw)
[18:11:07] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Support Upload Resume via Server Side File Concatenation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17255  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[18:21:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add Media Wizard should list local wiki files as well as remote sources - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19863  (10dale)
[18:29:26] <CIA-69>	03catrope * r53753 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiBase.php: Followup to r53702: document $extradata parameter
[18:29:59] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Upload-by-URL should enforce $wgMaxUploadSize early when Content-Length header provided - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18201  +comment (10dale)
[18:30:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Landscape issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19925  (10hcatlin)
[18:30:37] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Links below intro do not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19927 enhancement; Normal; Wikipedia Mobile: server; (malrase)
[18:32:09] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Implement the ScriptLoader into the core. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18464  +comment (10dale)
[18:32:22] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) pause button stops the video instead of pausing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18894  (10dale)
[18:33:07] <Elektryk91>	what will hapen if i will delete some skin which is use by some users?
[18:33:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Landscape issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19925  (10malrase)
[18:34:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add Media Wizard should list local wiki files as well as remote sources - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19863  (10j)
[18:49:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Landscape issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19925  +comment (10hartman)
[18:55:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) secure.wikimedia.org has interwiki links to insecure sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5440  +comment (10hartman)
[18:57:03] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Should not 'Transcript' rather be 'Transcription' ? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19928 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: MetaVidWiki; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[19:06:59] <CIA-69>	03ialex * r53754 10/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): svn:eol-style native
[19:07:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Cross-domain AJAX request support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19907  +comment (10hartman)
[19:11:17] <CIA-69>	03nikerabbit * r53755 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (FFS.php _autoload.php spyc/loader.php): (one kind of) Yaml file format support
[19:11:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Landscape issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19925  (10malrase)
[19:18:54] <Elektryk91>	how to create second skin basen on the same skin? 
[19:23:19] <CIA-69>	03ialex * r53756 10/trunk/extensions/OpenID/ (SpecialOpenID.body.php SpecialOpenIDServer.body.php): 
[19:23:19] <CIA-69>	* quiet errors produced by php-openid
[19:23:19] <CIA-69>	* add some debugging in SpecialOpenID::login()
[19:36:27] <CIA-69>	03ialex * r53757 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/specials/SpecialListgrouprights.php): * (bug 19301) Duplicates entries in $wgAddGroups, $wgRemoveGroups, $wgGroupsAddToSelf and $wgGroupsRemoveFromSelf are no more displayed on Special:ListGroupRights
[19:37:05] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Duplicate entries in Special:ListGroupRights at es.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19301  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[19:39:29] <CIA-69>	03nikerabbit * r53758 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/SpecialTranslations.php: Hopefully fixes a bug with translatable pages
[19:39:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Captcha in the latin script fails people who do not do Latin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19229  (10alex.emsenhuber)
[19:40:28] <Nikerabbit>	ialex: $foo = &baa(); ?
[19:40:37] <Nikerabbit>	is that even valid in new php?
[19:41:58] <ialex>	Nikerabbit: Strict Standards: Only variables should be assigned by reference
[19:42:25] <Nikerabbit>	so why are you supressing them and not removing &? :o
[19:42:25] <ialex>	Nikerabbit: but the result will be passed by value
[19:44:00] <ialex>	Nikerabbit: I'm quieting errors inside php-openid
[19:44:21] <ialex>	(since it has a *lot* of E_STRICT)
[19:49:31] <CIA-69>	03catrope * r53759 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/OptIn/ (OptIn.hooks.php OptIn.i18n.php): OptIn: Swap feedback and try links and tweak a few messages, both on Parul's request
[19:53:05] <Nikerabbit>	hmhm?
[19:53:14] <Nikerabbit>	does it matter?
[19:53:25] <Nikerabbit>	oh yes
[19:53:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) DatabasePostgres missing insertSelect wrapper - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18909  15enhancement->normal (10alex.emsenhuber)
[19:56:55] <CIA-69>	03catrope * r53760 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/OptIn/OptIn.i18n.php: Followup to r53759: forgot one
[20:05:54] <CIA-69>	03ashley * r53761 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): coding style tweaks
[20:06:09] <CIA-69>	03dale * r53762 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): set local wiki to default in add media
[20:11:15] <CIA-69>	03ialex * r53763 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/specials/SpecialUserlogin.php): * (bug 18799) Special:Userlogin now handles correctly the returnto parameter to not link back to Special:Userlogout when user's language isn't the same as content's language
[20:11:42] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) use wgContLang to ignore returnto=Special:UserLogout by login - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18799  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[20:16:08] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Show patrolled changes in Watchlist fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19929 trivial; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (apper)
[20:18:40] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Restriction missing in wgRestrictionEdit/wgRestrictionMove - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18797  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[20:24:10] *^demon 	attempts the merge again
[20:26:35] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) pagelinks database table contains interwiki links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18680  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[20:26:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Interwiki links within Image tags create an entry in the pagelinks table. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19814  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[20:27:20] *RoanKattouw 	wishes ^demon luck
[20:27:53] <^demon>	RoanKattouw: I've almost got it. Only 1 conflict this time \o/
[20:28:26] <RoanKattouw>	One of these days I'm gonna merge the last month or so of revs into my querypage-work branch *shudders*
[20:29:04] <buzz_>	RoanKattouw, so long as i dont have to recode anything in my api helper module ;-)
[20:29:27] <RoanKattouw>	buzz_: You mean the ones you added a few days ago for Broken,DoubleRedirs
[20:29:34] <buzz_>	you are confusing me again
[20:29:37] <buzz_>	im not him :)
[20:29:42] <RoanKattouw>	Or was that not you
[20:29:44] <buzz_>	im the other one
[20:29:44] <buzz_>	hehe
[20:29:47] <RoanKattouw>	heh
[20:29:50] <RoanKattouw>	I forgot who added those
[20:29:51] <^demon>	RoanKattouw: Have you reverted that yet?
[20:29:55] <buzz_>	im the one who doesnt do anything
[20:30:01] <RoanKattouw>	No
[20:30:08] <RoanKattouw>	I wanted to at first, but I guess there's not much of a point
[20:30:41] <^demon>	I thought you were holding off until querypage doesn't suck?
[20:31:01] <RoanKattouw>	The querypage-work branch has already made QueryPage not suk
[20:31:02] <RoanKattouw>	*suck
[20:31:14] <RoanKattouw>	Still needs to be merged, and when it was ready-ish I got employed :)
[20:32:06] <Splarka>	so will that be 3 branch merges since last scap? or 4?
[20:32:18] <RoanKattouw>	Something like that
[20:32:28] <RoanKattouw>	new-upload, maintenance and querypage-work
[20:32:45] <^demon>	Possibly 4, depending on how long it takes me to bang new-install together.
[20:32:51] <^demon>	In any case: 1.16 is a big release already
[20:32:56] <RoanKattouw>	AYe
[20:33:05] <Splarka>	not to mention the wmf version branching OFF
[20:33:05] <RoanKattouw>	new-upload is huge of its own
[20:33:37] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Special:Log can give database error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18657  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[20:35:05] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Duplicate names $wgAddGroups et al should be removed not to confuse Special:ListGroupRights display - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18648  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[20:35:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Duplicate entries in Special:ListGroupRights at es.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19301  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[20:38:41] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) form produced by TablePager::getLimitForm() fails when short URLs have not been set - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18606  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[20:38:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Extra title param tacked onto page limits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16009  (10alex.emsenhuber)
[20:39:33] <ialex>	lot of dupes :(
[20:44:29] <^demon>	RoanKattouw: Merged and got the i18n cache issue fixed \o/
[20:44:38] <RoanKattouw>	Whee
[20:45:03] <^demon>	The new installer is so much nicer :)
[20:47:55] <CIA-69>	03dale * r53764 10/trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/libAddMedia/remoteSearchDriver.js: fixed title restore after cancel edit in add-media-wizard
[20:49:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) mwdumper java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Invalid contributor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18328  +comment (10agrozny)
[20:49:40] <CIA-69>	03dale * r53765 10/trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/libClipEdit/mvClipEdit.js: removed extra control actions per in video update
[20:53:10] <CIA-69>	03demon * r53766 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: Remove suggestion to use svn-revision, it doesn't exist anymore.
[21:10:23] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Add Media Wizard should list local wiki files as well as remote sources - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19863  +comment (10j)
[21:11:39] <nnc>	does anyone know if wikipedia.org is using default suggest (autocomplete) feature that shipps with 
[21:11:52] <nnc>	mediawiki 1.15?
[21:12:16] <CIA-69>	03shinjiman * r53767 10/trunk/extensions/Babel/Babel.class.php: 
[21:12:16] <CIA-69>	Babel:
[21:12:16] <CIA-69>	* Minor tweak for displaying the language code where comply with BCP 47 recommendations.
[21:12:41] <nnc>	it doesn't look like it, but it would save me a lot of time if someone knows for sure if they use something else, thanks
[21:12:51] <Splarka>	nnc: it is using the default http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgEnableMWSuggest
[21:13:04] <Splarka>	but it might be slightly more advanced as it is on 1.16 alpha
[21:13:20] <nnc>	thnaks
[21:13:26] <Splarka>	er, it is using the default mwsuggest (but not the default setting for it)
[21:13:32] <Splarka>	((which is disabled))
[21:13:33] <nnc>	I see they have better sorting of the suggestions
[21:13:40] <nnc>	more relevant ones come up first
[21:13:53] <Splarka>	that is the fault of the backend search
[21:14:01] *Splarka 	pokles rainman_
[21:14:25] <nnc>	yeah, I guess wikipedia.org is using Lucene, right?
[21:14:34] <Splarka>	Lucene 2 I think
[21:14:50] <nnc>	thank you
[21:15:13] <rainman_>	nnc, en.wp is using lucene backend, others use default
[21:15:20] <rainman_>	(for mwsuggest that is)
[21:15:53] <nnc>	rainman_: OK, thanks for the info
[21:16:13] <Splarka>	phew
[21:16:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) width for td.mw-label causes issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19225  +comment (10rockmfr)
[21:16:16] <nnc>	and default is MySQL LIKE query, right?
[21:16:19] *Splarka 	gives rainman_ cookie for unidling
[21:16:44] <ch>	hi!
[21:17:04] <rainman_>	hehe :) yes, other uses titlekey
[21:18:11] <rainman_>	btw werdna, you coming to our village next weekend?
[21:18:24] <nnc>	rainman_:  by 'titlekey' you mean WHERE page_title LIKE 'something%'
[21:18:46] <rainman_>	by titlekey i mean
[21:18:50] <rainman_>	!titlekey
[21:18:50] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "titlekey".
[21:19:06] <rainman_>	eh
[21:19:09] <rainman_>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TitleKey
[21:19:39] <RoanKattouw>	werdna: Where're you going this time? :)
[21:19:58] <rainman_>	which is doing a like on a nicely indexed titles (e.g. lowercased)
[21:20:15] <rainman_>	hey RoanKattouw you should come as well
[21:20:21] <RoanKattouw>	What? Where?
[21:20:26] <nnc>	rainman_: great to know that, thanks a lot
[21:20:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Cross-domain AJAX request support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19907  +comment (10mrzmanwiki)
[21:20:40] <RoanKattouw>	Or is this the Cambridge thing again?
[21:20:44] <rainman_>	aye
[21:21:04] <RoanKattouw>	And it's in early August, right?
[21:21:36] <ch>	is MediaWiki:*.css any special or can I add new CSS-pages there and @import them from MediaWiki:Common.css just fine?
[21:23:07] <charitwo>	you can import just fine
[21:24:56] <Splarka>	you must use &action=raw&ctype=text/css though to get the proper mime type
[21:25:31] <ch>	I probably need to hardcode the path to index.php then?
[21:25:40] <Splarka>	@import "/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Foobar.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css";
[21:25:44] <ch>	Or can I get it dynamically inside Common.css?
[21:26:06] <Splarka>	you'd need to use javascript to get it dynamically (or write an extension in php or something)
[21:26:12] <rainman_>	RoanKattouw, yes 1st of august
[21:26:27] <RoanKattouw>	Ah, yes, I'm going on vacation that very day :(
[21:26:28] <rainman_>	i have two spare rooms with sheets etc in my house so you're welcome to stay
[21:26:49] <rainman_>	:/
[21:26:59] <ch>	okay; so maybe I shall write an extension which just spits out the whole @import or <style> block then...
[21:27:03] *^demon 	needs to finally meet another dev
[21:27:23] <rainman_>	^demon, wanna come to cambridge? :)
[21:27:38] <RoanKattouw>	And even if I weren't I don't know if I'd come to Cambridge for just one meet-up, it's like 10 hours
[21:27:38] <^demon>	I don't have the money to make it up there :-\
[21:27:47] <^demon>	Was going to try and make NY this weekend, but that didn't work out.
[21:27:55] <RoanKattouw>	^demon: Got the funds to make it down to Buenos Aires?
[21:28:03] <^demon>	Absolutely not :(
[21:28:03] <RoanKattouw>	Hey Simetrical is in NY AFAIK
[21:28:05] <rainman_>	in any case, any developer who wants to come will have a room :)
[21:28:40] <rainman_>	^demon, ryanair to stansted should be super-cheap
[21:28:45] <rainman_>	you in swiss, no?
[21:28:57] *Splarka 	sends Steve Balmmer
[21:29:02] <Splarka>	er Ballmer
[21:29:07] *rainman_ 	invites Splarka as well :)
[21:29:24] <RoanKattouw>	rainman_: Does Ryanair fly cross-Atlantic?
[21:29:37] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers?_Developers!_Developers!_Developers!,_Developers!_Developers!_Developers!_Developers!
[21:29:50] <rainman_>	hehe, not really ;) but Splarka might be rich :)
[21:30:00] <werdna>	rainman_: you guys are having a meetup net weekend?
[21:30:06] <werdna>	RoanKattouw: just got back from italy
[21:30:15] <^demon>	rainman_: No, I'm in Virginia :p
[21:30:19] <RoanKattouw>	rainman_: But ^demon lives in the US too, DC IIRC
[21:30:37] <^demon>	RoanKattouw: Two hours south of there.
[21:30:43] <RoanKattouw>	Ah, yes
[21:30:48] <rainman_>	werdna, you coming to cam right'?
[21:31:03] <werdna>	rainman_: will make sure, but provisionally yes
[21:31:25] <rainman_>	^demon: oh, for some reason i thought you're in europe
[21:31:30] <^demon>	Why the hell does this merge commit always die on MessagesPT?
[21:31:34] <^demon>	rainman_: Nope :)
[21:32:11] <CIA-69>	03demon * r53768 10/branches/new-installer/phase3/ (878 files in 51 dirs): Merge r45494-r53766, plus a few minor fixes.
[21:32:25] <^demon>	asdf
[21:32:51] <^demon>	878 files....again?
[21:33:03] <Splarka>	europe? DC? Virginia? wherever he is, ^demon is still always in svn-purgatory
[21:46:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Interwiki links could use descriptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10812  (10dan.bolser)
[21:47:35] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Interwiki links could use descriptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10812  (10innocentkiller)
[21:49:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) iPhone landscape mode has issues with Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19925  summary (10public)
[21:49:50] <^demon>	I give up.
[21:50:29] <Annemarie>	Where does ^demon live?
[21:51:15] <roberthl>	east coast usa
[21:53:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Interwiki links could use descriptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10812  (10dan.bolser)
[21:59:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Interwiki links could use descriptions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10812  (10innocentkiller)
[22:03:36] <NullAcht25>	Hi, How can I find out what version a given installation of mediawiki has?
[22:03:56] <Duesentrieb>	!version
[22:03:56] --mwbot--	To find out the version of your MediaWiki installation, visit the page Special:Version. Should the wiki be broken, but you have access to the program files, find $wgVersion in DefaultSettings.php. Please note that 1.15.0 > 1.5.0 (since nobody wants to go to 2.0).
[22:04:18] <NullAcht25>	Thank you
[22:05:42] <NullAcht25>	Hm... I guess if it says 1.10, I'd better upgrade soon, right?
[22:05:55] <Duesentrieb>	that's pretty old, yes :)
[22:05:57] <Duesentrieb>	!upgrade
[22:05:57] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading
[22:06:23] <NullAcht25>	Are there known security flaws with this 1.10?
[22:07:07] <Splarka>	http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.10/
[22:07:57] <Splarka>	has had 4 minor releases hmm
[22:08:09] <Duesentrieb>	has reached eol long since
[22:08:20] <Duesentrieb>	so the minor releases don't mean much
[22:08:28] <^demon>	Probably some XSS bugs in things like the installer that didn't get ported that far back.
[22:08:36] <Splarka>	sure, but they mean something to someone using 1.10
[22:08:39] <Splarka>	see http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_10/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES?revision=31482&view=markup
[22:08:48] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) UploadFromUrl error with synchronous downloads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19930 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; (b-jorsch)
[22:08:58] <Duesentrieb>	Splarka: yes, but installing hte latest bugfix version of 1.10 doesn *not* mean you are safe.-
[22:09:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) "Expand all" option for subcategories in Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19924  summary (10public)
[22:09:06] <Splarka>	1.10.3 was a potential IE XSS
[22:09:17] <Splarka>	no, but not doing it definitely means you aren't ^_^
[22:09:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Font sizes preference for Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19921  summary (10public)
[22:09:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Implement geolocation into Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19920  summary (10public)
[22:09:53] <NullAcht25>	Can I upgrade directly from 1.10 to 1.15 or will I have to go 1.10 -> 1.11 -> 1.12 -> 1.14 -> 1.15?
[22:10:01] <Duesentrieb>	directly
[22:10:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) No copy text functionality in Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19918  summary (10public)
[22:10:17] <NullAcht25>	cool
[22:10:22] <Splarka>	Duesentrieb: besides, he asked "Are there known security flaws with this 1.10?"
[22:10:36] <Splarka>	and looking at the branch definitely tells him there are
[22:10:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Implement a language selection drop-down into Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19834  summary (10public)
[22:11:22] <Splarka>	Annemarie gains +50 Summary points, reaches level 7
[22:11:42] <Splarka>	please choose a class: Bugfighter, Bugthief, Bugmage
[22:11:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) "Clear" button for search bar for Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19490  summary (10public)
[22:12:11] <CIA-69>	03demon * r53769 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/mctest.php: Remove stupid id that makes clean merges impossible and doesn't help anyone
[22:12:42] <Annemarie>	"Mysterious Black bar"
[22:12:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Intermittent black bar using Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19488  summary (10public)
[22:12:47] <Annemarie>	That's got to be one of my favorites.
[22:12:52] <Annemarie>	Mage.
[22:12:55] <Annemarie>	I'll take Mage.
[22:13:03] <Annemarie>	All bugs are mysterious.
[22:13:38] <Splarka>	you gain FIND_DUPE, PUNCH_SUBMITTER_THROUGH_SCREEN, and WTF_MISSILE
[22:13:52] <Annemarie>	Woo.
[22:14:21] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Improved 500 error page for Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19113  summary (10public)
[22:14:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Links below intro do not work using Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19927  summary (10public)
[22:15:18] <Annemarie>	And ... done, I think.
[22:15:32] <Annemarie>	Fairly sure I got all the open ones.
[22:22:13] *thedj 	wishes he had an iphone...
[22:22:48] <Annemarie>	It's about $100 / month.
[22:23:54] *^demon 	prefers Android
[22:24:15] *OverlordQ 	is split
[22:24:24] <OverlordQ>	I want an iPhone but then every day I get reminded by how much I hate apple
[22:25:15] <Annemarie>	Every day?
[22:25:29] <thedj>	i want an iphone, but then every month i'd be reminded about how much i can't afford it :D
[22:25:58] <cirwin>	thanks ^demon
[22:26:02] <OverlordQ>	well not everyday, but often
[22:26:13] <thedj>	or rather don't want to spent that kind of money on such a device.
[22:31:10] <^demon>	cirwin: No worries
[22:37:25] <CIA-69>	03catrope * r53770 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
[22:37:25] <CIA-69>	NavigableTOC: Make textarea scrolling work more reliably in IE. This can be done
[22:37:25] <CIA-69>	because IE is kind enough to scroll the section to the bottom, so it's easy to
[22:37:25] <CIA-69>	scroll it to the top. Still gotta find something similar that works for other
[22:37:25] <CIA-69>	browsers.
[22:44:50] <[JP]Darth_Vader>	Hallo. Gibt es eine Extention oder irgendetwas in der Art, was die Suche in einem Wiki verbessert?
[22:45:37] <RoanKattouw>	Was möchtest du verbessern?
[22:46:04] <[JP]Darth_Vader>	Also mir fällt auf, dass bei kurzen Eingaben keinerlei Erfolg stattfindet
[22:46:22] <RoanKattouw>	Das wirkt in neuere Versionen von MediaWiki
[22:46:31] <[JP]Darth_Vader>	Wir haben das aktuellste
[22:47:13] <RoanKattouw>	Dann brauchst du, der searchindex wieder zu bauen mit maintenance/rebuildSearchIndex.php (nicht sicher, ob das die exakte Name ist)
[22:47:59] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) ApiUpload calls the UploadFromX object's verifyUpload() incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19931 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: API; (b-jorsch)
[22:48:14] <[JP]Darth_Vader>	Okay...
[22:48:30] <[JP]Darth_Vader>	Also in der neueren Version gibts ja sowas wie "meintest du"
[22:49:02] <[JP]Darth_Vader>	Aber findet der trotzdem nur eingaben mit einem tippfehler zum beispiel...bei längeren Namen...
[22:49:53] <[JP]Darth_Vader>	Mir gehts um 2-3 buchstaben/zahlen...Es kann nicht der Sinn sein, dass man den Wikinamen plus den TExt in google eingeben muss
[23:05:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Captcha in the latin script fails people who do not do Latin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19229  (10Gerard.meijssen)
[23:07:15] <LennieB>	Hi folks
[23:07:35] <roberthl>	hello
[23:07:36] <LennieB>	Has anyone ever did automated wiki-edits ?
[23:07:42] <roberthl>	Many people have.
[23:07:59] <LennieB>	roberthl: can you point me to some examples ?
[23:09:31] <LennieB>	roberthl: I'm thinking of gathering information from a working network and putting that in a wiki-page and updating it every few minutes and/or hours and keeping the 'edit-history'
[23:10:11] <LennieB>	roberthl: maybe it's a stupid idea, I don't know yet. :-)
[23:10:15] <roberthl>	hmm
[23:10:58] <roberthl>	Well, if you are developing your application from scratch there are several client libraries.
[23:11:17] <roberthl>	I assume the gathering code would have to be custom written.
[23:11:39] <ch>	LennieB: https://oss.inqnet.at/trac/sicekit/browser/robots/robot-update_hp_servers_ilo2.py is an example, not very pretty at the moment though
[23:11:46] <LennieB>	roberthl: I was counting on the last bit. :-)
[23:12:11] <Robe>	ch: haha, I like the processor heuristics :D
[23:12:13] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Client_Code
[23:12:25] <roberthl>	Would recommend mwclient, if you're using python.
[23:13:42] <p858snake>	!pywikipediabot
[23:13:42] --mwbot--	pywikipediabot is a bot framework written in Python that allows for easier automated actions on a wiki. For more information, see <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Using_the_python_wikipediabot>.
[23:13:45] <p858snake>	possibly
[23:15:41] <LennieB>	ok, thanks guys (gals ?) I think my idea doesn't seem so stupid anymore. ;-)
[23:18:00] <cirwin>	mwclient is much better for programmers
[23:19:03] <LennieB>	cirwin: I usually don't use Python, but maybe I can get an idea of how to do it
[23:19:04] <MrZ-man>	I prefer http://code.google.com/p/python-wikitools/ but I'm not exactly impartial on the matter
[23:19:58] <cirwin>	MrZ-man: I'll have to give it a go
[23:21:16] <LennieB>	We do use a lot of PHP, I'm now thinking maybe I can just call the right internal directly
[23:21:48] <cirwin>	yeah, look at the list of client code
[23:21:53] <cirwin>	there are interfaces in most languages
[23:22:00] <cirwin>	s/most/most useful/
[23:22:00] <cirwin>	:p
[23:28:29] <LennieB>	Atleast now I know what to look for, I guess you folks call it a 'client'
[23:29:19] <Splarka>	there are more internalish ways too.. hmm...
[23:30:26] <LennieB>	LennieB: or bot
[23:30:45] <Splarka>	http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/SpamBlacklist/cleanup.php
[23:30:48] <Splarka>	like this thing
[23:31:22] <Splarka>	this performs edits as pseudoanonymous 'User:Spam cleanup script'
[23:34:13] <LennieB>	Splarka: I had just found that svn-repo a few minutes ago. :-)
[23:35:11] <Splarka>	heh
[23:40:54] <LennieB>	ok, thanks for the info, I'll have a talk with my mate at work, maybe it's a good idea to do it this way...
[23:41:05] <LennieB>	I also found this page: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Edit_-_Create%26Edit_pages
[23:42:11] <LennieB>	Anyway, I'm off to bed, have a nice weekend