[00:01:43] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Upload branch code merged in r53282 breaks php session handling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19932 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; (b-jorsch)
[00:10:57] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Simplified search page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19933 enhancement; Normal; Wikipedia Mobile: server; (malrase)
[00:21:03] <mich3ll3>	i upgraded to v1.15.0, and now my wikitable lost its borders.. where and what do i modify to fix this issue? 
[00:21:27] <Annemarie>	!css
[00:21:27] --mwbot--	To change styles for your wiki, go to one of the MediaWiki:xxx.css wiki page (NOT a file) and put your custom styles there (sysop/admin rights required). MediaWiki:Common.css is for all skins and should be used for content styles. MediaWiki:Monobook.css is for the MonoBook skin (default), etc. For more information, see !skins and <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skin_configuration>
[00:23:45] <mich3ll3>	wow. thanks! 
[00:28:54] <Splarka>	Annemarie: 19933
[00:29:17] <Annemarie>	I saw it. I should really e-mail this filer...
[00:29:42] <Splarka>	mich3ll3: perchance are you using a custom/edited skin? possibly Common.css is no longer loading for you
[00:29:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Simplified search page for Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19933  summary (10public)
[00:35:14] <mich3ll3>	Splarka i'm using "modern" skin.. i had to modify the css file in that subdir
[00:36:16] <Splarka>	you edited /skins/modern/main.css ?
[00:37:24] <Splarka>	if so, you should move youe changes to MediaWiki:Modern.css and restore that main.css with http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_15_0/phase3/skins/modern/main.css?view=co&content-type=text%2Fplain
[00:38:01] <Splarka>	(though none of that should afflict wikitables, *shrug*, unless you edited Modern.php maybe)
[00:54:32] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Asynchronous upload from url uses wrong parameters when processing download - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19934 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Uploading; (b-jorsch)
[01:09:01] <Robe>	mediawiki aims to do a release every quarter?
[01:10:49] <Splarka>	microsoft aims to be secure
[01:10:55] <Splarka>	you don't always get what you aim for
[01:11:16] <OverlordQ>	lol
[01:11:41] <Robe>	heh
[01:16:37] *Splarka 	eats CIA-69
[01:16:38] *CIA-69 	tastes crunchy
[01:16:51] *Splarka 	was expecting "CIA-69 eats you back"
[01:19:45] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Search box highlight - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19935 enhancement; Normal; Wikipedia Mobile: server; (malrase)
[01:24:01] <Splarka>	Annemarie++
[01:24:35] <Annemarie>	Gaddamnit.
[01:24:54] *Splarka 	could fix them but your reaction is more amusing
[01:35:05] <GreenAway>	There's wiki people here with beer. This is not good.
[01:36:10] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Show patrolled changes in Watchlist fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19929  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[01:37:18] <apergos>	beer? wiki? mmmm
[01:43:07] <Splarka>	GreenAway: tain't somma dem underage?
[01:47:53] <Simetrical>	ricky, how can I make an account for the fedorahosted.org Trac thing?
[01:50:41] *AaronSchulz 	googles "John Holdren" and "overpopulation"
[02:15:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) There isn't edit conflicts (warning) if the page you're editing becomes protected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10293  (10p858snake)
[02:17:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Exclusion list for random articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10768  (10p858snake)
[02:18:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) 0 as a one character article name causing 'bad title' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11958  (10p858snake)
[02:21:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Sidebar links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13096  (10p858snake)
[02:23:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Bugs in guarani and navajo wikipedias - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13211  (10p858snake)
[02:24:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Email user bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13259  (10p858snake)
[02:27:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) enwiki arbcom private wiki has gone missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13290  (10p858snake)
[02:28:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Error message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13355  (10p858snake)
[02:30:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Court membership for Brennan redlinked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13481  (10p858snake)
[02:32:12] <Annemarie>	p858snake: Are you needlessly spamming people?
[03:11:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Upload branch code merged in r53282 breaks php session handling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19932  +comment (10mrzmanwiki)
[03:20:22] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Disabling mobile site errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19936 normal; Normal; Wikipedia Mobile: server; (malrase)
[03:24:12] <ricky>	Simetrical: Hey, you can sign up at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/user/new, and you'd get an email with the password to your account.  You don't have to worry about any of the todo items, CLA, or whatever other stuff it might ask you to fill in when you login there.
[03:26:07] <ricky>	If that's too much trouble, I'd happy to post any comments on your behalf if you email them to ricky@fedoraproject.org, but if you do the above, you will be able to login at fedorahosted.org using that account and add comments
[03:36:25] <Simetrical>	ricky, doesn't a fresh install of the package have styles broken?  How is he saying that it only breaks corner cases?
[03:37:20] <ricky>	It does.  Apparently the undocumented piece of configuration that's needed is an Alias /skins     /usr/share/mediawiki/skins
[03:38:35] <ricky>	By the way, it was brought up at the last moment before the last FESCo meeting, so it'll come up again at next week's meeting so that people have a chance to look over it
[03:40:35] <Splarka>	"only crazy-ass corner cases of people expecting css, js, or images to work will have problems"
[03:44:30] *GreenAway 	expects them to work in half the space.
[03:44:34] <Tim-away>	http://www.coastalcomputerservices.com.au/index.html
[03:44:50] <Tim-away>	check out their HTML, apparently they sell web design services
[03:46:14] <GreenAway>	At least they're using the right DTD.
[03:46:25] <Simetrical>	GreenAway, you mean, Serif WebPlus 10 HTML Export is, right?
[03:47:12] <kd3>	so... random bug before I put it on the 'zilla
[03:47:23] <Tim-away>	the intro text is made up of a lot of PNG images, inside absolutely positioned divs
[03:47:24] <kd3>	mw diplays stuff in a <span style="display:none"></span> block if it's in a header
[03:47:52] <Tim-away>	one per letter, more or less
[03:48:23] <Tim-away>	each with onload="OnLoadPngFix()"
[03:50:25] <Simetrical>	Oh, bugger.
[03:50:32] <Simetrical>	I hit "reply" and Trac overwrote my existing reply.
[03:50:36] <Simetrical>	Instead of appending like Bugzilla.
[03:50:42] <GreenAway>	Simetrical: Yes - that's what I meant - it's the right one for the tool. Although I would have cut that comment.
[03:50:42] <Simetrical>	Apparently, with no way to undo.
[03:50:44] <Simetrical>	Thanks, Trac.
[03:50:59] <Simetrical>	Oh, no, it took me to a new page.
[03:51:04] <Simetrical>	So phew, my reply's still in the history.
[03:52:39] <GreenAway>	Tim-away: Another fun part is they have javascript in the description field.
[03:53:21] <GreenAway>	And if you thought MediaWiki's keywords were excessive . . .
[03:55:56] *ricky 	has had baad experiences with losing long comments in trac too :-(
[03:56:18] <ricky>	Like writing a long comment, clicking submit, and getting a collision - somebody saved a change to the ticket first
[03:56:46] <ricky>	Hit back, and the eithre comment was gone :-(
[03:56:59] <ricky>	**entire
[03:59:19] <Simetrical>	skins/disabled/ is worthless and can be deleted, right?
[04:00:44] <Tim-away>	from a live installation? yes
[04:00:48] <Simetrical>	Hmm.  We should move the PHP files from skins/ to includes/skins/.
[04:01:26] <Simetrical>	Actually, we should have some totally different way of registering skins, since the current system requires users to manually dump files in skins/.
[04:01:33] <Simetrical>	Tim-away, but not from SVN?  What's it used for?
[04:04:49] <Tim-away>	you can delete all of the CBT stuff
[04:05:02] <Tim-away>	I thought I did it years ago
[04:05:26] <Tim-away>	but don't just delete those two files and leave the rest of it
[04:05:30] <ricky>	One approach I was mulling about with configuration file locations was maybe making it possible to specify the location of LocalSettings.php with an environmental variable (so a SetEnv in apache configuration).  It still doesn't lead to the most elegant apache configs though since it might need to be specified in a bunch of places or in a <LocationMatch>.
[04:05:36] <Tim-away>	and leave the disabled directory checked in and empty
[04:05:36] <Simetrical>	Tim-away, where's the rest of it?
[04:06:06] <Tim-away>	includes/cbt
[04:06:07] *Simetrical 	isn't actually sure how removing the files and checking that it with git-svn would work, since git doesn't track directories
[04:06:25] <ricky>	Oh, also, one question I had was - would it possibly be useful to make the install script just echo the generated configuration file on the page if it can't write to the configs directory?
[04:06:34] <Simetrical>	ricky, yes, that would be useful.
[04:06:42] <Tim-away>	well, maybe you should use proper svn
[04:06:55] <ricky>	Cool, I can try to come up with a patch for that if I can figure out some PHP stuff :-)
[04:07:02] <Simetrical>	ricky, LocalSettings.php should really be in /etc/mediawiki or such, I assume.  But it would be fine to symlink from /usr/share/mediawiki/LocalSettings.php, so we can still have it always in $IP.
[04:07:12] <Simetrical>	The problem is it's not writable by the web server.
[04:07:32] <Simetrical>	Can yum prompt the user for the necessary info?  Like database type, wiki name, and initial wiki user name?
[04:07:55] <ricky>	I don't think so, but this kind of stuff would be good to document in a README.fedora file
[04:08:20] <Tim-away>	or you could check in a readme file explaining that the user can move skins into that directory to disable them
[04:09:24] <Simetrical>	Let's see if that deletes the directories.
[04:09:31] <CIA-69>	03simetrical * r53771 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Remove obsolete CBT stuff
[04:12:25] <CIA-69>	03simetrical * r53772 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/cbt/ skins/disabled/): 
[04:12:25] <CIA-69>	Remove dirs too
[04:12:25] <CIA-69>	git-svn does have one or two drawbacks . . .
[04:16:19] <ricky>	Oh cool, the install script already does print it if it couldn't write it.  It might be sufficient to just take out the part that terminates the script if the directory isn't writeable: http://ricky.fedorapeople.org/mediawiki/mediawiki-remove-write-permission-check.patch (doing some some tests of this now)
[04:18:01] <Simetrical>	ricky, I replied on Trac.
[04:18:14] <ricky>	Thanks a lot
[04:20:33] <Simetrical>	The real fix for the config issue is for us to just support good database-based config.
[04:21:04] <Simetrical>	Then LocalSettings.php would only need database info, which can be generated automatically as long as you know which database type you're using.
[04:23:16] <Simetrical>	ricky, telling the user to copy the text is kind of dangerous.  One leading newline, or a BOM, could mess up the wiki.
[04:24:24] <Simetrical>	For now, I think it's most sensible to just link /usr/share/mediawiki/LocalSettings.php -> /var/www/wiki/LocalSettings.php.
[04:24:31] <Simetrical>	And leave config/ intact.
[04:24:35] <ricky>	Hm, that's a tough one.  Then the safest alternative bet would probably be to make the file downloadable, which is kind of inconsistent too.
[04:24:48] <Simetrical>	You could try creating it in /tmp or someplace too.
[04:34:11] *ricky 	will probably sleep on this.  I'll try to start looking at what nonintrusive changes can be made to config/index.php to make your require_once method work
[05:18:52] <PeterSJC>	Hello...  I would like to learn how to maintain (and eventually create) templates but need a bit of help getting started. I have found an error in {{SCOTUSCase}} and would rather learn how to fix it, instead of simply identifying the problem for someone else. Can someone help walk me through this?
[05:20:20] <PeterSJC>	(Is this the right channel to ask that question?)
[05:26:09] <Brian_S>	hello
[05:26:41] <Brian_S>	hmm
[05:27:10] <MrZ-man>	PeterSJC: Annemarie can help
[05:27:28] <Annemarie>	Wat?
[05:27:44] <OverlordQ>	heh
[05:27:47] <Annemarie>	en.wiki's SCOTUSCase?
[05:27:48] <Annemarie>	I wrote it.
[05:28:01] <Annemarie>	'cept it's not called that.
[05:30:29] <PeterSJC>	Annemarie: OK to go private?
[05:30:55] <PeterSJC>	or prefer to talk here?
[05:30:58] <Annemarie>	Keep it in here, please. I'll read scrollback in a few minutes if nobody else can help.
[05:31:34] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Configuration settings not available via the API - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19937 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: API; (brianna.laugher)
[05:32:43] <PeterSJC>	ok...    In the Whitney v. California article, I notice that the Court Membership portion of the infobox has Edward Sanford's name spelled wrong.
[05:33:03] <^demon>	PeterSJC: Check #wikipedia-en, this isn't the channel for that
[05:33:28] <OverlordQ>	yea, that's not a template problem methinks
[05:33:30] <PeterSJC>	OK, can they help me with technical issues?  I really want to learn how to fix a template.
[05:33:59] <PeterSJC>	OK, it's maybe a problem with the data the template uses....   I am not very clear how to separate those two things.
[05:34:50] <^demon>	Whooo, been out drinking :D
[05:34:55] <^demon>	Maybe it's time to play with trunk?
[05:35:18] <p858snake>	only if you want people to hurt you
[05:35:33] <^demon>	Hey, as long as it's not broken :)
[05:38:37] <PeterSJC>	Thanks
[06:00:56] <ckw>	Anyone used MediaWiki for multi language documentation?
[06:01:33] <ckw>	Setup for easy moving between language on a single page, perhaps falling back to English if an article hasn't been translated?
[06:02:33] <p858snake>	not on a single page as such but this is how its done on the mediawiki help pages: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Image
[06:10:42] <CIA-69>	03alexsh * r53773 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ (ApiQueryBrokenRedirects.php ApiQueryDoubleRedirects.php): fix classes description.
[06:33:46] <ckw>	Anyone setup/know how to set up a mediawiki install with normal mediawiki namespaces and language namespaces to allow article translations?
[06:34:24] <ckw>	Preferable some setup that can default to English if an article has not been translated
[06:50:20] <Nikerabbit>	ckw: maybe you want http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Page_translation#Documentation
[06:51:20] <ckw>	Thanks
[07:43:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) localize value acceptance of function <ref name= /> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19804  (10mahitgar)
[07:56:28] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) last search results page contains next page link if result count is multiple of limit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19938 minor; Normal; MediaWiki: Search; (fpahl)
[08:11:44] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) arbcom-en-b - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19939 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (roger.davies.wiki)
[08:13:49] <CIA-69>	03purodha * r53774 10/trunk/extensions/Transliterator/ (Transliterator.i18n.php Transliterator.php): German localization added, i18n PLURAL support added, limits made configurable, minor enhancements of integration.
[08:18:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) localize value acceptance of function <ref name= /> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19804  +comment (10p858snake)
[08:53:30] <CIA-69>	03purodha * r53775 10/trunk/extensions/WhosOnline/WhosOnline.php: Allow to automatically create the database table `online`.
[09:44:21] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Upload branch code merged in r53282 breaks php session handling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19932  (10roan.kattouw)
[09:44:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Asynchronous upload from url uses wrong parameters when processing download - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19934  (10roan.kattouw)
[10:06:04] <CIA-69>	03aaron * r53776 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LogEventsList.php: Add diff links to suppress log for deleted revs too
[10:34:16] <CIA-69>	03catrope * r53777 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SkinTemplate.php: Fix r53270: drop &returntoquery parameter if empty, and prevent Special:Userlogin from returning to itself, creating very long looplike URLs
[10:49:25] <CIA-69>	03purodha * r53778 10/trunk/extensions/WhosOnline/ (WhosOnline.php WhosOnlineSpecialPage.php): Add configurable option to show anymous online users, too.
[11:31:24] <NeKit>	I tried to install SVN version
[11:31:35] <NeKit>	it didn't dissapeared: http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1566/sonicscanfinfo124860733.png
[11:39:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Captcha in the latin script fails people who do not do Latin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19229  (10happy-melon)
[12:01:30] <Led_Zeppelin>	I am trying to get a better search for mediawiki.  Is it worth getting the Lucene search? 
[12:03:27] <flyingparchment>	yes, it's much better
[12:03:29] <flyingparchment>	but also harder to use
[12:04:43] <Led_Zeppelin>	hmm
[12:04:57] <Led_Zeppelin>	I am using 1.14.0 and the webpage says after 1.3.x it will be gone? 
[12:05:07] <Led_Zeppelin>	1.13
[12:05:42] <flyingparchment>	then you're looking at the wrong page, or you're reading it wrong, or the page is wrong
[12:06:17] <AaronSchulz>	http://www.spartantailgate.com/forums/msu-red-cedar-message-board/304623-patriot-historically-inaccurate-2.html
[12:06:23] <AaronSchulz>	Continuity: Peter Copen, who died at the Battle of Elizabethtown, is seen later at the Battle of Camden.
[12:06:26] <AaronSchulz>	hehe :)
[12:17:27] <Led_Zeppelin>	do I have to have ant for the Lucene search? 
[12:17:32] <Led_Zeppelin>	What if I get the binary?
[12:41:20] <Led_Zeppelin>	how can I check what modules are active? 
[12:41:26] <Led_Zeppelin>	and currently installed?
[12:45:31] <Alphos>	Led_Zeppelin : check Special:Version on your wiki, you'll see which modules are currently active
[12:45:39] <Led_Zeppelin>	got it thanks
[12:45:42] <NeKit>	http://api.browsershots.org/png/original/15/15178226db03d9d17fb0f29cc25e7d3f.png
[12:45:58] <CIA-69>	03catrope * r53779 10/trunk/extensions/WhosOnline/WhosOnline.php: Fix up r53775: use $wgExtNewTables in WhosOnline extension
[12:46:05] <Led_Zeppelin>	so, I have the Lucene extension instaled and running, but I don't notice any difference in my search results. 
[12:46:08] <NeKit>	even on default skin the glitch present
[12:50:54] <RoanKattouw>	Are you referring to the rundll32 error or the wrong-looking wiki page?
[12:56:19] <NeKit>	wrong-looking wiki page
[12:57:42] <NeKit>	I can't undestand why it is so wrong
[12:58:14] <RoanKattouw>	Which version of MediaWiki are you using?
[12:58:32] <NeKit>	I used 1.15.0
[12:58:36] <RoanKattouw>	Right
[12:58:43] <NeKit>	but because of this tried
[12:58:44] <RoanKattouw>	Did you copy this page from Wikipeda?
[12:58:46] <RoanKattouw>	*Wikipedia
[12:59:04] <NeKit>	to install 1.16.0
[12:59:10] <RoanKattouw>	!templates | NeKit 
[12:59:10] --mwbot--	NeKit: For more information about templates, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates>. The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions> and enabling HTML Tidy <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUseTidy>
[12:59:27] <RoanKattouw>	NeKit: See the second sentence ---^ 
[12:59:42] <NeKit>	RoanKattouw: not from Wikipedia
[12:59:52] <RoanKattouw>	From where, then?
[13:00:03] <NeKit>	Sonic Retro
[13:00:19] <RoanKattouw>	Right
[13:00:32] <NeKit>	but page not always look wrong, but from time to time
[13:00:35] <RoanKattouw>	You're probably missing ParserFunctions and you may need to copy templates
[13:00:46] <NeKit>	ParserFunctions is installed
[13:01:13] <RoanKattouw>	Hmm; can you give me a link to that page?
[13:01:15] <NeKit>	and as I said, page sometimes look right
[13:02:05] <RoanKattouw>	Ah, I purged the page and now it looks right
[13:02:38] <NeKit>	yes, it helps
[13:02:45] <NeKit>	but only for some time
[13:05:54] <NeKit>	RoanKattouw: so what is needed to do?
[13:06:01] <RoanKattouw>	I don't know
[13:06:24] <NeKit>	can it be a problem with hosting?
[13:11:12] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) urldecode dropped during StringFunctions-ParserFunctions merger - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19940 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: ParserFunctions; (Blindwanderer)
[13:13:03] <NeKit>	can URL Rewrite somehow have an influence on this?
[13:13:18] <RoanKattouw>	I don't think so. I've seen this issue before but I have no idea what causes it
[13:56:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) zh.wikipedia.org unusable for text browser users due to massive vocabulary lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19453  -i18n ; +comment (10shinjiman)
[14:00:20] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Hungarian Wikinews Licence Change - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19941 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (bdamokos)
[14:29:33] <Robe>	can I do wiki-internal links to special pages with arguments?
[15:17:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Vector skin does not indent subsection headers in table of contents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19790  (10blurpeace)
[15:39:39] <Merlissimo>	Why/How  is the "used templates"-list not shown/hidden on some pages in edit mode? How can i enable it?
[15:51:21] <Merlissimo>	e.g. http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProjekt_Vorlagen&action=edit  on most other pages there is a list at the bottom "Templates used on this page: "
[15:52:19] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) TablePager and friends use deprecated code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19942 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (innocentkiller)
[15:52:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) HTML5 (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19719  (10innocentkiller)
[15:54:28] <CIA-69>	03philip * r53780 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/CategoryPage.php languages/Language.php): Follow up on r46020 and r46489. Improve the $wgContLang->convert() calling procedure on CategoryPage.
[16:24:59] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) $wgOut->addExtensionStyle() seems broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19943 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (happy-melon)
[16:43:15] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) $wgOut->addExtensionStyle() seems broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19943  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[16:52:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) TablePager and friends use deprecated code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19942  (10happy-melon)
[16:53:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) TablePager and friends use deprecated code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19942  +comment (10happy-melon)
[16:53:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) TablePager and friends use deprecated code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19942  (10happy-melon)
[16:54:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) $wgOut->addExtensionStyle() seems broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19943  (10happy-melon)
[16:57:39] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Using of 'Media:' breaks file links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19944 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: File/Repo; (umherirrender_de.wp)
[16:57:58] <CIA-69>	03demon * r53781 10/trunk/phase3/includes/OutputPage.php: Per bug 19943, improve docs on addExtensionStyle(). It behaves differently depending on what you pass it :)
[17:03:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Option: Change the background color (texvc) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8  (10rene.kijewski)
[17:04:36] <Simetrical>	We should have a "fix the single-digit bugs" campaign.
[17:04:36] <CIA-69>	03simetrical * r53782 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ (ApiFeedWatchlist.php ApiQueryWatchlist.php): 
[17:04:36] <CIA-69>	Don't overload wluser parameter, use new wlowner
[17:04:36] <CIA-69>	Fix for r53703 based on code review by Roan. Also improved error
[17:04:36] <CIA-69>	message and sample documentation slightly.
[17:05:56] <Simetrical>	^demon, I have a patch I'm writing that's meant to replace addStyle() and all similar functions with something saner.
[17:06:17] <Simetrical>	See, if we used git and I published my repo, I'd just publish it as a branch, but currently it's a stash instead.
[17:06:30] <Simetrical>	I could check it into SVN as a branch, but it's one added file, so . . .
[17:08:09] <^demon>	Simetrical: Cool.
[17:08:35] <LarsKL>	i'm looking for an extension that can include a random article (or the first x chars of it) (that part is matched by http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:IncludeArticle) but it also needs to be able to exclude articles from certain categories (not just namespaces)
[17:08:56] <LarsKL>	is there anything like that or does anyone know how to change the IncludeArticle one to do it?
[17:11:42] <Subfader>	in a hook attchment which is better: $wgUser->getName() or $wgUser->mName? both work though
[17:12:08] <Simetrical>	Subfader, prefer the method.
[17:12:38] <Subfader>	alright. thanks
[17:17:27] <werdna>	you should only use instance variables if you are inside the class itself.
[17:17:41] <werdna>	Assume all instance variables are protected, unless there's no other way to get to them
[17:17:59] <Subfader>	and if I'd want to return a link to the user profile instead of the plain name? i guess there's some easy way.
[17:18:33] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) "Contract" button at end of subcategory? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19945 enhancement; Normal; Wikipedia Mobile: server; (malrase)
[17:20:14] <werdna>	Subfader: Skin::userLink
[17:20:33] <werdna>	$wgUser->getSkin()->userLink( $user->getId(), $user->getName() )
[17:21:33] <^demon>	Heh, new-installer has a pretty UI, but doesn't actually implement the install part :p
[17:23:08] <Subfader>	alright. that's awesome :)
[17:23:35] <CIA-69>	03demon * r53783 10/branches/new-installer/phase3/includes/installer/WebInstallerOutput.php: Add closing to <meta>
[17:25:09] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Articles with forward slash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19946 normal; Normal; Wikipedia Mobile: server; (malrase)
[17:30:01] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Pronunciations of words - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19947 enhancement; Normal; Wikipedia Mobile: server; (malrase)
[17:40:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) "Contract" button at end of subcategory for Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19945  summary (10hcatlin)
[17:46:41] <LarsKL>	is there a place to post feature requests for extensions?
[17:47:32] <Raymond_afk>	LarsKL: Bugzilla too
[17:47:53] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Redirect issues on Mobile Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19936  summary; +comment (10hcatlin)
[17:53:01] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Pronunciations of words on Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19947  summary; +comment (10hcatlin)
[17:55:42] <LarsKL>	Raymond_: what component should i choose?
[18:00:04] <Raymond_>	LarsKL: for an existing extension or a new one?
[18:04:22] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) Articles with forward slash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19946  +comment (10hcatlin)
[18:04:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Articles with forward slash in Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19946  summary (10hcatlin)
[18:11:49] <Reedy>	Does "Special" get localised
[18:11:49] <Reedy>	?
[18:11:56] <Reedy>	as in Special:
[18:11:56] <flyingparchment>	yes
[18:12:00] <Reedy>	cheers
[18:12:26] <flyingparchment>	in recent releases the special page name is localised as well
[18:12:43] <Reedy>	Hmm
[18:12:46] <Reedy>	Its NS -1...
[18:12:52] <Reedy>	Thanks River :)
[18:17:12] <^demon>	Simetrical: I decided to give msysgit another try. Seems to be working more nicely this time :)
[18:24:26] <scream>	I need help with a watchlist notice, I don't know how to implement the "dismiss" button.
[18:24:44] <Splarka>	javascript
[18:25:01] <CIA-69>	03catrope * r53784 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiBase.php: Elaborate docs added in r53753 per CR comment
[18:25:18] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js/watchlist.js  here is an example
[18:30:30] <scream>	Splarka, thank you... works!
[18:36:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Articles with forward slash in Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19946  +comment (10hartman)
[18:51:33] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) CreateTemplate produces database error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19948 blocker; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticForms; (jensen.nick)
[18:53:30] <shortcircuit>	Weird.  And grr.
[18:53:41] <shortcircuit>	My Recent Changes feed just up and died on me last night.
[18:54:13] <shortcircuit>	HTTP 500 error, no content, HTTP 500 error reported in access.log, but nothing in error.log
[19:09:22] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) When saving a query the system always puts }} after {{#ask: and so ignores all other arguments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19458  +comment (10yaron57)
[19:11:45] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Escaped HTML-entities do not round-trip when using forms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19062  +comment (10yaron57)
[19:14:39] <Subfader>	could it be that MediaWiki:Disclaimers and /page no more work in 1.16? I customized them but in 1.16a they use their defaults again
[19:14:42] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) datetime fields' time components can end up in date fields - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19878  +comment (10yaron57)
[19:15:13] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) SemanticForms autocompletion on property buggy (patch attached) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19406  +comment (10yaron57)
[19:25:00] <Reedy>	          <pl ns="0" title="Special:Search/List of German monarchs" /> - Why is that showing as NS 0?
[19:27:21] <Reedy>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_monarchs
[19:27:26] <Reedy>	Not even sure where it reckons that link is
[19:27:37] <thedj>	pl ?
[19:27:52] <Reedy>	just posted ;)
[19:27:57] <Reedy>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=links&titles=List%20of%20German%20monarchs&pllimit=max
[19:28:07] <Reedy>	API page link
[19:28:21] <Splarka>	probably as [[file: ...|link=]]
[19:28:37] <Splarka>	it's doing that to interwiki links too
[19:29:42] <Reedy>	I cant spot anything :/
[19:29:50] <Splarka>	<a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Search/List_of_German_monarchs" title="Search Wikimedia Commons"><img alt="Search Wikimedia Commons" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4a/Commons-logo.svg/40px-Commons-logo.svg.png" width="40" height="54" /></a>
[19:30:38] <Reedy>	Ahh
[19:30:56] <Splarka>	okay, so it is an interwiki link, is an open bug
[19:31:25] <Splarka>	coming from http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Sister&action=edit
[19:31:28] <Magioladitis>	Reedy I am here as well
[19:31:35] <Reedy>	Yeah, i found that...
[19:31:38] <CIA-69>	03aaron * r53785 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Move api code to /api
[19:31:41] <Reedy>	Which isnt a page link
[19:31:46] <Splarka>	 }}|40px|link={{#switch:{{lc:{{{project}}}}}
[19:33:04] <Splarka>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19814
[19:33:32] <Reedy>	Ah
[19:33:41] <Reedy>	We're waiting on a scap then
[19:34:04] <Reedy>	Cheers Splarka :)
[19:34:05] <Splarka>	and then waiting for the page links table to be fully updated, which can take a while, heh
[19:34:09] <Splarka>	rar
[19:34:35] <Reedy>	lol
[19:34:42] <Reedy>	Fun times :D
[19:35:18] <thedj>	Quite a lot is waiting for scap i think...
[19:35:37] *Reedy 	think we should clone brion
[19:36:13] <Splarka>	including 3 branches in, 1 branch out
[19:36:42] <Reedy>	Gonna be fun for someone ;)
[20:09:26] <CIA-69>	03ialex * r53786 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES config/index.php): * (bug 19479) Show proper error message when unable to connect to PostgreSQL database with username/password in MediaWiki's setup
[20:09:36] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Wrong error message when installing with postgres as DB-Backend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19479  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[20:15:48] <CIA-69>	03huji * r53787 10/trunk/extensions/Makesysop/SpecialMakesysop.i18n.php: Localisation updates: Updating Persian translations. I wonder why this extension is not listed on Transaltewiki .. or why I can't find it.
[20:18:27] <ialex>	reason: because it's deprecated ;)
[20:19:16] <Alphos>	is it useful ? oO
[20:19:28] <Alphos>	isn't it integrated to the core, by any chance ?
[20:20:41] <ialex>	Alphos: it's not integrated into core, but now possible to have the same restrictions in Special:Userrights
[20:21:34] <Alphos>	yeah, that's what i meant :/
[20:33:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) CreateTemplate produces database error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19948  (10jensen.nick)
[20:38:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Upload-by-url fails with JS2 enabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19754  (10dale)
[20:39:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) CreateTemplate produces database error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19948  (10yaron57)
[20:46:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Images with wrong SHA1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17057  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[20:52:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) CreateTemplate produces database error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19948  (10jensen.nick)
[21:00:34] <Nikerabbit>	evening
[21:02:21] <^demon>	Heya
[21:03:25] <CIA-69>	03nikerabbit * r53788 10/trunk/extensions/Makesysop/SpecialMakesysop.i18n.php: Say NO to BOMs!
[21:03:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) File Cache created for error page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18573  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[21:04:49] <Reedy>	Would "[[Τσεχοσλοβακία]]ς" showing like "[[Τσεχοσλοβακία| Τσεχοσλοβακίας]]" would on a wiki, be a project setting? Or a MW default?
[21:04:56] <Reedy>	As http://el.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1632093&oldid=1323439 it doesnt..
[21:05:00] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: If it's fixed, why not mark it so?
[21:05:17] <Reedy>	But on en.wp [[dog]]s would show like [[dog|dogs]]
[21:05:30] <^demon>	Reedy: It has to be part of the linktrail for that language.
[21:05:37] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: what? I need context
[21:05:49] <^demon>	Wait, that was ialex.
[21:05:52] <^demon>	Nevermind.
[21:06:11] <ialex>	^demon: reported version is 1.14.0.
[21:06:38] <Reedy>	^demon, so presumably, it would require mw changes?
[21:07:04] <^demon>	ialex: Well it probably wont get backported to 1.14...so it can be marked FIXED since it wont happen anymore.
[21:07:07] <^demon>	Reedy: Yes.
[21:07:07] <Reedy>	if so, do you knw where?
[21:07:32] <Nikerabbit>	quiet day
[21:07:44] <^demon>	MessagesEl.php, the link trail would need changing.
[21:10:19] <CIA-69>	03dale * r53789 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialUpload.php: check for mUpload for in case of mReUPload
[21:10:38] <Nikerabbit>	=MW setting
[21:11:58] <Nikerabbit>	hi mdale
[21:12:07] <mdale>	HI Nikerabbit
[21:12:19] <Reedy>	Presumably getting it changed on translate wiki would possibly do as then it'd be merged forward?
[21:13:17] <^demon>	Whoo, the Palm Pre is cool :)
[21:14:13] <Nikerabbit>	Reedy: no need to to trough twn if you can convince me or other committer
[21:14:25] <Reedy>	Heh
[21:14:32] <Reedy>	Its someone else that has reported it :)
[21:14:43] <Reedy>	Do changes commited directly get brought back to translatewiki
[21:15:29] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Intermittent black bar using Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19488  +comment (10hartman)
[21:15:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) iPhone landscape mode has issues with Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19925  +comment (10hartman)
[21:16:16] <Nikerabbit>	Reedy: it's not handled at twn
[21:16:58] <kingdong>	hi folks, is there anyway to get a listing of all files uploaded to a wiki (ex: pdf, ppt, doc, etc) ?
[21:17:06] <kingdong>	any Special_Page ?
[21:17:12] <kingdong>	or something similar
[21:17:33] <^demon>	Special:ListFiles
[21:18:01] <kingdong>	super duper thanks
[21:18:59] <Reedy>	Another question while im waiting for the regex ;)
[21:19:18] <Reedy>	Special:AllPages, on a custom wiki, it shows a start/end page by default. Is there a way to not have it set that?
[21:21:30] <Reedy>	(ie in the text boxes at the top)
[21:22:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) No copy text functionality in Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19918  +comment (10hartman)
[21:25:55] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Add "UNTIL" option to RecentChanges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17749  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[21:26:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add pagination (offset, prev/next, until/from/to) to Special:RecentChanges UI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18228  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[21:40:09] <ClickRick>	reedy?
[21:40:15] <reedy>	hai
[21:40:23] <ClickRick>	we know we want the unicode range 0388- 03CE added
[21:40:25] <Magioladitis>	hi everyone
[21:40:42] <Magioladitis>	+ 0386
[21:40:42] <reedy>	(this is link trail for the greeks)
[21:41:33] <ClickRick>	the question is how to encode that, which might depend on the platform it's hosted on
[21:42:26] <ClickRick>	also things like whether upper- and lower-case both need to be specified, or whether that's already handled automatically
[21:43:44] <ialex>	quick poll: if a page such as Special:Upload is restricted to logged-in users, should it be marked as restricted on Special:Specialpages?
[21:43:44] <ialex>	(reason: Special:Upload is always displayed as not restricted even if it is)
[21:44:07] <reedy>	would make sense from a usability pov
[21:57:49] <Magioladitis>	hello mediawiki
[21:59:00] <Magioladitis>	can't we just give the Greek characters with copy and paste?
[21:59:15] <Magioladitis>	i think the order is not standard
[22:00:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Images with wrong SHA1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17057  (10Platonides)
[22:06:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Images with wrong SHA1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17057  (10public)
[22:09:53] <broussev>	hi
[22:09:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Upload-by-url fails with JS2 enabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19754  (10mrzmanwiki)
[22:10:54] <broussev>	how can I download wikisaurus, which is part of wiktionary?
[22:10:54] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) linktrail for el (Hellenic) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19949 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (sam)
[22:12:34] <broussev>	I am looking at the downloads.wikimedia.org, how do I tell the contents of the files?
[22:13:33] <reedy>	look at the descriptions?
[22:13:37] <reedy>	and you want 
[22:13:45] <reedy>	#wikimedia-tech for this
[22:13:52] <broussev>	wikisaurus
[22:14:00] <broussev>	english synonyms
[22:15:18] <broussev>	thanks
[22:15:29] <CIA-69>	03rarohde * r53790 10/trunk/extensions/Cite/ (Cite.i18n.php Cite_body.php citeParserTests.txt): 
[22:15:29] <CIA-69>	Extends Cite to allows <ref> content to be defined within a <references> block
[22:15:29] <CIA-69>	See comments on Bug 5997, Bug 15724, and discussion at:
[22:15:29] <CIA-69>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Citing_sources&oldid=304222618#Improving_.3Cref.3E
[22:28:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Greater flexibility with references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5997  +comment (10rohde)
[22:30:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:UnusedProperties produces database error for PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19948  summary; +comment (10yaron57)
[22:37:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:UnusedProperties produces database error for PostgreSQL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19948  +comment (10yaron57)
[22:38:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Images with wrong SHA1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17057  (10Platonides)
[23:28:49] <svip>	Is it possible to get a list of popular non-existing pages?
[23:29:14] <roberthl>	Special:WantedPages
[23:29:29] <svip>	No, I mean by viewer popular...
[23:29:35] <svip>	I mean, what do people want?
[23:29:56] <cirwin>	how do you measure what they want?
[23:31:12] <svip>	What people have requested, but had not found.
[23:31:35] <cirwin>	you could keep a log of the searches, but there would be a lot of noise to filter out
[23:40:57] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Don't put the search button for the new searchfield in the input field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19950 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Vector Skin; (hartman)
[23:42:03] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) No copy text functionality in Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19918  +comment (10hartman)
[23:53:47] <dergringo>	Hey guys. I can't download any extension! -> svn: Working copy '/mnt/upload5/private/ExtensionDistributor/mw-snapshot/branches/REL1_15/extensions' locked svn: run 'svn cleanup' to remove locks (type 'svn help cleanup' for details)
[23:53:59] <roberthl>	Extension distributor is broken.