[00:01:20] how can I set the Wiki to not have public sign-up ? [00:02:20] I believe that would be [00:02:23] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = false; [00:02:28] in localsettings [00:02:29] couldbe wrong though [00:02:38] <^demon> Simetrical: Yeah I am. [00:02:42] But I believe this is it.. as * should be everyone [00:03:58] ^demon, would you do that tiresome main page change I posted? [00:04:12] FF|Skyrider: does it matter where in the localsettings file it's put ? [00:04:25] <^demon> Simetrical: I can. [00:04:27] not as far as I know, I usually add such things at the bottom though [00:04:34] Easy to keep track [00:04:37] oh, I see there's a bunch of those already [00:04:38] ^demon, but will you? :) [00:04:42] will add it there with a comment [00:04:52] if it already exists, change it to false ^^ [00:04:56] if its true that is [00:05:15] yeah, it's there and it's true. thank you for your help [00:05:16] <^demon> Simetrical: Yeah I can do them. Give me a min. [00:05:39] Thanks. [00:06:08] <^demon> clear="all" is the same as style="clear:both"? I would've thought it was style="clear:all"...or are both and all the same? [00:06:37] what do I need to do in order to have the wiki reload the settings file ? [00:07:44] localsettings? [00:07:55] Its read right away. [00:07:58] taking effect that is. [00:08:05] upload, overwrite and refresh the page. [00:08:56] I edited the file on the server (SSH), saved it. the wiki still has the option to create an account (I signed out of the admin account, and tried to create one) [00:09:53] let me try [00:10:13] I just tried, works fine for me [00:10:14] You do not have permission to create this user account, for the following reason: [00:10:14] You are not allowed to execute the action you have requested. [00:11:01] sorry, my fault. I was editing the wrong folder, I had extracted the new version, but hadn't done the upgrade quite yet [00:11:35] ^_^ [00:12:51] So.. anyone? :s [00:14:46] is there any way to have the public be able to edit talk pages only ? [00:15:03] !prevacc | Samus_Aran [00:15:03] --mwbot-- Samus_Aran: For information on preventing access to your wiki, please see . [00:15:10] Restrict edit access by namespace. [00:15:56] <^demon> Simetrical: Working on it still. [00:17:00] ^demon, I figure it will take a while to test properly to make sure you don't get stabbed too viciously by those Konqueror users or whoever sees an extra pixel of padding. [00:19:07] I think it's silly how people think things should look the same in different web browsers. so long as the content is there, it's all good [00:20:27] <^demon> Simetrical: I'm more concerned with actual problems that we can fix that will get brought up as a result. I don't care what people _think_ it will do. Of course you're going to get the completely unfounded "OHNOS! THIS WILL BREAK XYZ!" [00:20:57] ^demon, hmm? What? [00:21:17] <^demon> I mean by making these changes and if we find ways to improve & fix as a result, good. [00:21:36] <^demon> If people bitch and go zomg you didn't follow policy this will break IE5 then oh well I don't care. [00:22:54] 03(NEW) No message shown anymore (blank) after flagging [if JavaScript is disabled] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19981 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (Wiki.Melancholie) [00:23:05] 03(mod) Maltese Wikipedia and Wiktionary namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19968 +comment (10brion) [00:24:36] brion: that one is also about having one of robs shell script to be run afaik to fix the transulcations as well unless i'm thinking of a diff bug [00:24:59] 03(mod) No message shown anymore (blank) after flagging [if JavaScript is disabled] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19981 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [00:25:01] 03(mod) Preserve color profile information for thumbs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19960 summary; +comment (10brion) [00:28:54] ^demon [00:29:09] Is there some kind of code to add in the wiki pages that won't display on the actual page but does in an edit? [00:30:33] <^demon> Simetrical: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#HTML5_Adjustments [00:30:51] ^demon, hurrah. [00:31:05] no idea demon? :p [00:31:20] http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page&charset=(detect+automatically)&doctype=HTML5&group=0&user-agent=W3C_Validator/1.654 [00:31:35] why not an html comment? [00:31:37] There are still three cellspacing/padding errors. Those might go away in a couple of days, though. [00:31:45] FF|Skyrider, [00:31:56] simple html? [00:32:04] It's fake HTML. [00:32:09] I'll be damned [00:32:09] thanks [00:32:10] The comment isn't actually output into the HTML source. [00:32:34] And it works for commenting out wikitext constructs. [00:32:53] <^demon> Simetrical: Those last two aren't in anything I edited. What casues them? [00:33:12] ^demon, some of the things like POTD are generated by substed templates that I asked to be edited. [00:33:27] So when the new ones are generated for some future day, they should be valid, if I found the right template. [00:37:52] night [00:38:06] <^demon> Simetrical: Pretty sure it's not [[Template:POTD default]] [00:40:36] ^demon, it's Template:POTD row. Did I miss that one? [00:41:33] ^demon, seems like you only did the first four. Probably missed the fifth since it had an extra line before it. [00:41:44] ^demon, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Simetrical/POTD_row&diff=301755726&oldid=301755575 [00:41:54] Um, wait, that's not protected. [00:41:57] I'll change it. :) [00:46:18] There, done. Should be all valid on the content side within a day. [00:47:47] Can anyone help please? [00:48:00] I'm getting this error when thumbnails are trying to be generated: [00:48:02] "Error creating thumbnail: /usr/bin/convert: not found [00:48:06] " [00:48:44] But when I installed MediaWiki it said it had the GD library or w/e its called? [00:49:01] TheOracle23, /usr/bin/convert is ImageMagick, not GD. Either install ImageMagick, or stop trying to use it. [00:49:08] :/ [00:49:10] Alright [00:53:30] 03(NEW) non-standard port redirection bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19982 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Redirects; (tarasius) [00:55:52] hello again [00:57:04] My wiki requires an account creation before viewing any page. Does anyone know how to allow access to a particular page for anyone without having to log in?? [00:57:37] it's actually for my disclaimer page, that I'd like to be accessible even to non registered users [00:57:51] Thanks! [00:58:47] !e $wgWhitelistRead [00:58:47] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:%24wgWhitelistRead [00:59:05] thank you! [01:00:35] 03(mod) Greater flexibility with references - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5997 (10bill.mitchell) [01:07:29] 03(mod) parserTests has 14 tests that have failed from the start, which confuses testing results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19957 (10brion) [01:12:09] 03(FIXED) parserTests has 14 tests that have failed from the start, which confuses testing results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19957 +comment (10brion) [01:12:35] Help? http://localhostr.com/files/cb7c64/error.png [01:12:47] *^demon|afk places CIA-69 in blocks of concrete and throws him over a bridge [01:12:53] I can't download ParserFunctions through Special:ExtensionDistributor [01:13:21] <^demon> TheOracle23: It's being worked on. [01:13:25] D: [01:13:32] well ty [01:50:02] damnit [01:50:05] i never got made admin on the blog [01:50:14] brion: can you just click publish on my one pending article? [01:50:26] sec [01:50:46] OH WAIT [01:50:50] i had to hard refresh [01:50:53] wow [01:50:55] cache ftl [01:50:59] a two day cache, apparently [01:51:17] brion: DO watch the thing, because i want to know if this is the kind of content you are down with or not [01:51:23] whee [01:52:04] pushed publish, now watching :) [01:52:51] had you cut your hair already the last time you were out here? i was pretty out of it with my dentistry issue at the time ;) [02:00:01] hcatlin: are there a bunch of beeps in the background on the vid? [02:00:07] cause if not i don't know wtf is beeping on my computer ;) [02:00:30] uhhhh [02:00:34] i don't think so [02:00:38] i don't hear them [02:01:18] 03(FIXED) Handling of variable number of parameters, if- and loop-statements in templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1689 +comment (10innocentkiller) [02:01:23] 03(NEW) Editing tab "Advanced options" panel code visible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19983 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: User preferences; (blurpeace) [02:03:45] msterious [02:05:02] brion: I was wondering if we kept a branch of yet-to-be-released versions... I read a thread on mwusers where a guy stated that he had 1.96, so either he's a time traveler or you have some futuristic code hidden somewhere :D [02:06:38] <^demon> Haha. [02:08:56] if we told you we'd have to kill you [02:09:50] :P [03:48:09] is there a super conscise formatting document somewhere? [03:48:40] documentation? mediawiki? you're joking right? ;) [03:48:44] night, thanks for the help [03:49:34] formatting code as in the wikitext syntax? [03:49:55] p858snake: yeah [03:50:47] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Contents [03:52:19] 04(REOPENED) Make SecurePoll aware of Single User Login - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18967 +comment (10tstarling) [03:52:36] p858snake: thanks [03:54:06] !cheat [03:54:06] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "cheat". You might try: !cheatsheet [03:54:10] !cheatsheet [03:54:10] --mwbot-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cheatsheet [03:54:17] k-man: ^ [03:55:07] thanks Annemarie [03:59:39] aren't ya gonna get annoyed and alias cheat to cheatsheet now? [03:59:50] "I never make mistakes, that shoulda been an alias already" [04:00:33] !cheat alias cheatsheet [04:00:33] --mwbot-- Successfully added alias: cheat [04:00:42] !cheet alias cheatsheet [04:00:42] --mwbot-- Successfully added alias: cheet [04:01:00] omg botspam. [04:01:08] !xyzzy alias cheatsheet [04:01:40] !iddqd alias cheatsheet [04:01:52] !UUDDLRLRBA alias cheatsheet [04:05:38] there we go - http://toolserver.org/~alexz/extdist/?extname=ParserFunctions&version=1.14 [04:06:07] Haha. [04:06:35] should be a drop down for the name >.> [04:06:40] too much work [04:09:25] 03(mod) Ampersand replaced by its HTML entity even in sections, breaking JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10407 +comment (10clemenzi) [04:14:47] erm, amps are supposed to be in src [04:15:46] *Splarka guesses that robert isn't robh or roberthl [04:21:51] 03(mod) Ampersand replaced by its HTML entity even in sections, breaking JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10407 (10herd) [04:44:16] 03(FIXED) Downloading from mediawiki.org via Special:ExtensionDistributor is broken due to a SVN lock - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19889 +comment (10tstarling) [04:47:17] *Splarka hands Tim stroopwafel with vegemite [05:09:32] vegemite \o/ [05:32:59] 03(mod) Ampersand replaced by its HTML entity even in sections, breaking JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10407 (10clemenzi) [05:44:02] 03(mod) Maltese Wikipedia and Wiktionary namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19968 (10djchris_portelli) [05:47:39] why didn't bugzilla group those emails.... [05:48:11] oh it apends new to the subject of the first one when the person cc'ed me on creation... [05:48:32] s/bugzilla group/gmail group those bugzilla/ [05:54:43] "BTW, I am running IE 6. " >_< [05:57:39] hmm wonder why bugzilla sends "[Bug XXX] New: " for new bugs instead of just "[Bug XXX] <TITLE>". breaks mah grouping [06:44:50] <p858snake> hmm maybe we should have a tracking bug or keyword for bugs wanting extenstions installs since there seems to be alot [06:45:24] <Splarka> +hellfreezes [06:45:41] <Nikerabbit> PHP Warning: array_unique() [<a href='function.array-unique'>function.array-unique</a>]: The argument should be an array in /var/www/w/includes/specials/Sp [06:45:44] <Nikerabbit> ecialListgrouprights.php on line 130 [06:46:30] <p858snake> Splarka: well maybe, but if we knew about half the bugs we could go though and close/wontfix ect for ones that don't have valid reasons [06:49:24] <p858snake> anyone kill me if i mark #16022 as WONTFIX/Invalid/later since its from last year and they havn't replied with community consensus? [06:50:11] <Lady_Aleena> Is there an easy way to make a expiration date for a part of a template? [07:02:16] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Static HTML dumps for non-Wikipedia projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15017 (10p858snake) [07:03:13] <Splarka> Lady_Aleena: that does what? [07:03:50] <Lady_Aleena> Well, I was going to put a tiny message on a template, that after 7 days, I want to disappear just in case I forgot to remove it. [07:04:54] <p858snake> i guess you could do some magic with if statements and time exprestions [07:05:26] <Splarka> yah, that [07:05:41] <Splarka> but you'd need to give it a time in a parameter [07:05:49] <Splarka> like {{hey you|~~~~~}} [07:06:49] <Lady_Aleena> p858snake, I was thinking about that, just not sure which magic word to use for the current datetime and how to add 7 to it. [07:06:56] <Nikerabbit> you [07:07:05] <Nikerabbit> have been talking about code review? [07:07:31] <Splarka> sorta [07:10:51] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Editing tab "Advanced options" panel code visible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19983 (10niklas.laxstrom) [07:11:02] <Splarka> {{#ifexpr:{{#time:U}} > {{#time:U|{{{1}}} + 7 days}}|foo|bar}} [07:11:13] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Create portal namespace for kmwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16022 (10p858snake) [07:11:13] <Splarka> Lady_Aleena ^ something horrid like that [07:11:24] <Splarka> where {{{1}}} is ~~~~~ [07:11:35] <p858snake> i bet someone will kill me for that bug but whatever >.> [07:11:51] <Splarka> note 30 day cache would defeat it, so you'd need to rely on someone editing or purging the page [07:12:08] <Lady_Aleena> Thanks Splarka! [07:12:24] *Lady_Aleena gives Splarka a cookie. [07:12:29] <Splarka> {{#ifexpr:{{#time:U}} > {{#time:U|{{{1}}} + 7 days}}|[[Category:Hey you forgetful tart, delete me!]]|bar}} [07:19:12] <Nikerabbit> who is infomedic [07:19:33] <Nikerabbit> he says he is interested in "localisation" and "translation handling" but I've never talked with him [07:19:54] <Splarka> tw competition! [07:39:51] <plop28> Hi all !! [08:26:10] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) edit history at 2010 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19984 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (shizhao) [08:29:47] <wikibugs> 03(mod) edit history at 2010 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19984 (10shizhao) [08:32:10] <str4nd> wtf [08:38:19] <p858snake> hasn't #17765 been dealt with or am I imaginging things again? [08:41:39] <Nikerabbit> !bug #17765 [08:41:39] --mwbot-- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=%2317765 [08:41:55] <Nikerabbit> mwbot: let me tell you one thing: you are frigging stupid [08:42:20] <Nikerabbit> at least the link works [08:44:26] <p858snake> anyone remember which language kept wanting to be renamed and they kept bugging the mailing list even though brion was telling them that a script needs to be written first? [08:47:10] <p858snake> Nikerabbit: the link working would probably be a bugzilla thing more likely since theres people like me that like to add hash pounds next to numbers if they are not explaining the whole thing [08:52:44] <Nikerabbit> p858snake: but if you type them in it doesn't work [08:52:51] <Nikerabbit> it has to be encoded [08:53:02] <Nikerabbit> p858snake: nds? [08:59:21] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Add parameter with group member to Special:Log/rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19985 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (umherirrender_de.wp) [09:23:49] <p858snake> i'm probably about to get hurt for this but i hope i did it right [09:24:40] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Wikis waiting to be renamed (Tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19986 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (p858snake) [09:24:42] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Renaming "nds.wikipedia.org" to "nds-de.wikipedia.org" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8540 (10p858snake) [09:24:46] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Rename "be-x-old" to "be-tarask" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9823 (10p858snake) [09:24:48] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Redirect dk.wiktionary and dk.wikibooks to da.wiktionary and da.wikibooks respectively. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15357 (10p858snake) [09:25:03] <wikibugs> 03(mod) change language tag from 'roa-rup' to 'rup' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15988 (10p858snake) [09:25:28] <wikibugs> 03(mod) move nds to nds-de, newly create nds locale - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17592 (10p858snake) [09:27:36] <Duesentrieb> ick [09:28:51] <p858snake> theres more for it but i closed them and couldn't find them again [09:29:46] <p858snake> isn't 10467 Use semantic XHTML (tracking) dead now since HTML5 or whatever is the new spec? [09:52:21] <Elektryk91> hi, how to create interwiki links? [09:54:07] <puzzlet> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interwiki [09:56:29] <Elektryk91> thanks [10:25:35] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Wikis ready for creation (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16976 (10p858snake) [10:25:35] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Create Domain for Wikimedia Colombia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19609 (10p858snake) [10:53:21] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Language code of Taiwanese/Holo, Cantonese, Classical Chinese Wikipedias (nan, yue, lzh) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8217 (10shinjiman) [10:59:37] <p858snake> wikibugs seems to be a tad lagy tonight [11:00:44] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Wikis waiting to be renamed (Tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19986 +comment (10shinjiman) [11:00:45] <wikibugs> 03(mod) edit history at 2010 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19984 (10roan.kattouw) [11:04:08] <str4nd> domas, have you fixed that -^ [11:04:47] <domas> no [11:04:55] <domas> should I? :) [11:09:52] <p858snake> lets all say it was werdna and hit him till he admits it? [11:09:56] <werdna> eeeee [11:10:11] <werdna> It *was* quiote possibly a prefs bug [11:10:13] <werdna> but shhhh [11:19:44] <wikibugs> 03(CLOSED) edit history at 2010 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19984 +comment (10shizhao) [11:21:12] <str4nd> "have fix" [11:28:54] <domas> werdna: it happened in 2008 =) [11:29:32] <werdna> oh yeah [11:29:47] <domas> dunno who fixed it though [11:29:48] <domas> did you? [11:30:02] *werdna dunnos [12:44:32] <meth> is it possible to save a backup of the entire wiki's markup ? [12:46:12] <werdna> meth: yes [12:46:15] <werdna> !backup | meth [12:46:15] --mwbot-- meth: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki [12:46:16] <werdna> hey RobH [12:46:59] <meth> is there like a list of extensions that add functionality ? [12:47:05] <RoanKattouw> !extensions [12:47:05] --mwbot-- MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Extensions> for instructions to install extensions, as well as for writing them. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix> for an overview of known extensions. [12:54:47] <meth> is there any way to make the search better ? [13:09:49] <werdna> any java people around? [13:09:51] *werdna eyes rainman-sr [13:10:14] <werdna> rainman-sr: btw I will be coming to the meetup, I found out Cambridge is 13 pounds return, and 45 minutes each way from kings cross [13:10:51] <werdna> How does one search an array? [13:11:03] <werdna> i.e. I want to figure out if X is contained in array Y [13:11:10] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Special:Properties doesn't always display page count - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18884 (10markus) [13:12:05] <rainman-sr> werdna, .contains() [13:13:01] <rainman-sr> if it's an array object list string[] then use stuffs from java.utils.Arrays [13:13:24] <rainman-sr> s/list/like [13:13:25] <Duesentrieb> werdna: java arrays are dumb. avoid them. [13:13:36] <Duesentrieb> use List or Set, as appropriate [13:13:42] <Duesentrieb> (that is, ArrayList or HashSet) [13:14:12] <Duesentrieb> java.utils.Arrays has some utility functions for arrays - basically the things arrays should have as methods, but don't. [13:14:27] <Duesentrieb> one of the most useful ones is Arrays.asList()... [13:14:56] <werdna> ... I see [13:15:04] <werdna> Ive been using Arrays.binarySearch and Arrays.sort [13:15:29] <rainman-sr> that's only for mission-critical stuff, for normal stuff arraylist is more than enough [13:16:16] <werdna> yeah, I thought it was overkill [13:17:01] <flyingparchment> if you need to search an array, perhaps it should be a Set instead [13:19:32] *werdna is pretty new at Java, what's the difference? [13:19:39] <werdna> rainman-sr: I think I've done what I needed to do! [13:19:59] <flyingparchment> set provides logrithmic complexity for lookup operations [13:20:14] <flyingparchment> (without having to sort it - because it's already sorted, or hashed) [13:20:18] <werdna> I'm looking up out of like 3 elements. [13:20:50] <werdna> There's a list of threading-related search operators, and I'm checking to see if a given operator is in that list, in order to make sure the Thread namespace is being searched. [13:20:57] <werdna> It is really, really not performance-critical [13:21:08] <rainman-sr> but still it should be a hashset [13:22:06] <werdna> Why a hashset? isn't that a key-value setup? [13:22:13] <flyingparchment> no, that's a hashmap [13:22:17] <Duesentrieb> no, that would be a hashmap. [13:22:17] <flyingparchment> map is key/value, set is just value [13:22:20] <Duesentrieb> a set is a set :) [13:22:41] <GreenReaper> If it's three items, just make it as simple as possible. [13:22:44] <Duesentrieb> actually, hashset is implemented using a hashmap. it's a bit of overkill for 3 elements, but that's not really a problem. [13:22:50] <Duesentrieb> generally, ugly code is more of a problem :) [13:23:12] <Duesentrieb> you can use an array - less overhead, contains() is linear instead of log, but for 3 elements, who cares :) [13:23:35] <Duesentrieb> GreenReaper: simple to read, or simple on the processor?... [13:25:05] <meth> is there an extension that supports versioning attachments ? [13:25:16] <werdna> arrays are harder to read, though. [13:25:23] <flyingparchment> if you mean uploads, they're already versioned [13:25:26] <werdna> rainman-sr: can I chuck you a patch to have a squizz at? [13:26:14] <rainman-sr> yeah, although i cannot look at it before evening [13:26:21] <Duesentrieb> arrays suck. java should have a nice syntax for creating lists. then no one would be using arrays any more. except maybe byte[] for blobs [13:26:54] <werdna> rainman-sr: okay, I'll implement my frontend too. [13:27:01] <werdna> Is there a way to change the formatting of some search results? [13:27:43] <rainman-sr> what kind of formatting, you mean output on special:search, or text snippets? [13:27:54] <werdna> on Special:Search [13:28:28] <werdna> It shows the pages, which sucks. I want to have the thread subject (which is stored in the index and can be cheaply got from the DB) and then maybe a subtitle "A discussion on <X>" [13:28:31] <rainman-sr> no i don't think so, every hit is treated the same, except if it's from image: namespace, when thumbnail is shown [13:28:47] <werdna> well, these will all be form the Thread: namespace [13:28:53] <werdna> surely I could hack something in [13:28:57] <rainman-sr> yeah [13:29:42] *werdna goes to attack the code. [13:30:06] <Nikerabbit> evening [13:30:22] <werdna> SpecialSearch.php I assume [13:30:27] <werdna> Nikerabbit: dude it's 2:30pm :) [13:30:36] <Nikerabbit> werdna: 16.30 [13:30:50] <werdna> oh you're in eastern europe :P [13:30:54] <meth> flyingarchment so your saying if you attach the same file again then it versions it ? [13:31:01] <flyingparchment> meth: yes [13:31:11] <Nikerabbit> werdna: and north [13:31:35] <werdna> ah, nordic? [13:36:37] <Nikerabbit> werdna: nordic what? :o [13:36:40] <Nikerabbit> country? yes [13:36:51] <werdna> I dunno, a nordic country :) [13:37:44] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Allow per-article and per-namespace messages above edit form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15102 +comment (10cenarium.sysop) [13:44:06] <p858snake> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/48276 <eww at NS idea.... the article subpage idea is kinda nice but i guess could be improved [13:44:23] <^demon> 07-29 13:37:46.406: ERROR/dalvikvm(828): Could not find method javax.xml.parsers.SAXParserFactory.setSchema, referenced from method org.apache.commons.digester.Digester.getFactory [13:44:28] <^demon> ^ Well that's annoying. [13:46:57] <brunoscunha> greetings [13:47:44] <brunoscunha> on MW 1.6.12 how do I get a new skin installed? [13:48:28] <brunoscunha> the tutorials are not very explicit on how to do it [13:48:42] <brunoscunha> or at least i find it dificult [13:54:38] <Duesentrieb> 1.6... ugh [13:55:27] <Duesentrieb> anyway, generally you copy the skin's php file into the skins directory. if the skin also has a directory with css files etc, then you copy that too [13:55:32] <Duesentrieb> that should be enough [13:55:37] <flyingparchment> did 1.6 support just copying skins? [13:55:46] <Duesentrieb> not sure. [13:55:50] <Duesentrieb> i think so though [13:58:38] <fotoflo> $wgFavicon = "$wgScriptPath/favicon.ico"; points to the wiki root/favicon.ico right? [13:58:50] <p858snake> brunoscunha: is there anything stopping you from updating to a new version of mediawiki? [13:58:55] <p858snake> *newer [13:58:56] <ialex> fotoflo: yes [13:59:09] <fotoflo> ialex: then why isnt my favicon showing up?! [13:59:33] <fotoflo> https://10.2.x.x/favicon.ico works... [13:59:52] <ialex> $wgFavicon = "/favicon.ico"; then [14:00:29] <flyingparchment> p858snake|sleep: he's probably a php4 user [14:00:31] <brunoscunha> thanks Duesentrieb [14:00:36] <flyingparchment> amazingly, some people are still using such old versions [14:00:37] <fotoflo> hmm [14:00:41] <brunoscunha> yes i'm a php 4 user [14:00:41] <fotoflo> worked on someone else's pdc [14:00:42] <fotoflo> pc [14:00:46] <fotoflo> i rpobably need to restart my ff [14:00:50] <^demon> flyingparchment: You mean the crusades didn't kill them all off? [14:01:32] <p858snake|sleep> i heard of someone running hp3 the other day, it was there first day on the job after the company didn't have a proper IT person for a few years [14:01:44] <p858snake|sleep> *php3 [14:02:22] <p858snake|sleep> it has since been killed with fire [14:02:54] <brunoscunha> p858snake|sleep: for now what's stopping it's the server only has php4, but the new will have php 5.* [14:02:58] <wikibugs> 03(mod) New hook right after initialization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15209 (10innocentkiller) [14:03:01] <wikibugs> 03(ASSIGNED) New hook right after initialization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15209 (10innocentkiller) [14:03:57] <p858snake|sleep> i <3 how some large companies think that outsourcing IT to a seperate company is a good idea [14:04:48] <werdna> easy there, that's how my family is fed. [14:05:03] <brunoscunha> maybe because they don't have enough people with good enough knowhow [14:05:07] <werdna> well, my parents' family.. you know what I mean. [14:05:16] <werdna> There's a lot of reasons to outsource IT. [14:05:20] <p858snake|sleep> espically companies that think its ok just to patch machines and never update [14:05:45] <werdna> You pay a premium, but it means you don't have to deal with ttech stuff, you tell the company to get their act together and to do certain things [14:05:52] <werdna> p858snake|sleep: what's that got to do with outsourcing? [14:05:58] <wikibugs> 14(DUP) Diff for page blanking shows wrong diff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17721 +comment (10innocentkiller) [14:06:00] <p858snake|sleep> the outside company that is, not the company [14:06:01] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Empty diffs appear as long columns of text when viewed in Safari - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13875 +comment (10innocentkiller) [14:06:23] <brunoscunha> ok, but people still remain dumb, and will never learn [14:06:40] <p858snake|sleep> werdna: the company thought they were getting good stuff for cheap but company wasn't doing what they were saying and lieing about it [14:07:34] <ialex> TimStarling: is maintenance/language/makeMessageDB.php obsolete with the localisation cache? [14:07:38] <p858snake|sleep> and by that i mean the external it support was stiffing the company [14:07:49] <brunoscunha> bad choice of company or bad deal [14:09:38] <TimStarling> ialex: it never did anything [14:10:07] <TimStarling> I don't think a script that does nothing useful can be obsolete [14:12:02] <phr34k> Hello, i've been researching/looking at wiki2pdf and equivelent plugins. Personally i've never touched the internals of mediawiki before, so i was wondering if they are any 'full' extensions/plugins that allows you to publish pdf from one or more wiki articles. I've noticed metawiki has a similair thing, and there are snippets here and there, i went through them but doesn't seem to resemble their system (judging from the code ofc.) [14:14:46] <p858snake|sleep> anyways time for me to pass out on my bed and do a activity called sleep [14:21:40] <GreenReaper> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Commit_access says I should link http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/author/greenreaper to my wiki account, GreenReaper. I don't seem to be able to do that from that page - does it require a sysop? [14:23:16] <^demon> GreenReaper: I'll do it. [14:23:21] <GreenReaper> Thanks. :-) [14:23:44] <^demon> Done. [14:23:49] <^demon> It requires "Coder" group, not sysop :) [14:24:07] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Install EasyTimeline on strategy.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19987 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (eekim) [14:24:37] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Install EasyTimeline on strategy.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19987 +shell (10innocentkiller) [14:25:22] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Install ReaderFeedback on strategy.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19988 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (eekim) [14:27:50] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Install ReaderFeedback on strategy.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19988 +shell (10innocentkiller) [14:28:11] <Ose> where is the page about the extension with #explode and such? [14:28:22] <Ose> it's not parserfunctions but something simillar [14:28:42] <werdna> stringfunctions probably [14:28:46] <Ose> thanks [14:29:39] <Elektryk91> hi, which extension add a posibility to create templates with if? [14:29:50] <ialex> !e ParserFunctions [14:29:50] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions [14:30:43] <Elektryk91> thanks :) [14:30:48] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) checkboxes don't wrap in IE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19989 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticForms; (tosfos) [14:32:46] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Remove North Korean calendar in MessagesKo.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19809 +comment (10shinjiman) [14:33:58] *werdna kicks CIA-69 [14:33:58] <CIA-69> ow [14:36:49] <TC-nbigelow> How can I setup up commons wiki for my wiki which I can have images pull from without putting any kind of prefix? [14:39:05] <MrZ-man> TC-nbigelow: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgForeignFileRepos [14:48:23] <Nikerabbit> hi werdna [14:48:32] <werdna> hi [14:49:25] <Nikerabbit> ^demon: eh if those are duplicates the summary for other bug is very wrong [14:50:01] <Nikerabbit> looks like someone fixed the issue though [14:51:40] <Boudewijn> how can I set the MW server time? [14:51:48] <Nikerabbit> great [14:52:00] <Nikerabbit> nobody bothers to fix my bugs, and when they do they do not mark those as fixed [14:52:07] <Nikerabbit> Boudewijn: is it incorrect? [14:52:27] <Boudewijn> yes, my server is ok...but MW screws it up with -2 hours [14:52:36] <^demon> Nikerabbit: Yeah, the summary for the duped one sucks. [14:52:50] <Nikerabbit> ^demon: not really, it is a whole different issue [14:53:25] <Nikerabbit> Boudewijn: check your user preferences? [14:53:38] <Nikerabbit> mediawiki uses server time by default [14:53:42] <Boudewijn> there the server time says: 14:53 [14:53:54] <Boudewijn> while its 16:53 with time() [14:55:00] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Hiding a global account via CentralAuth should trigger local blocks using wpHideName - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14476 (10agarrett) [14:55:01] <Boudewijn> the Wiki takes the gmdate instead of the normal date(unix) [14:56:38] <Nikerabbit> hmm really [14:56:45] <Boudewijn> looks like it takes: gmdate('H i',wfTimestamp( TS_UNIX, time() )); [14:57:03] <Boudewijn> and not date('H i',wfTimestamp( TS_UNIX, time() )); [14:57:17] <Boudewijn> the first is 14:43 which is wrong [14:57:23] <Nikerabbit> Boudewijn: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Timezone [14:57:28] <Duesentrieb> Boudewijn: using UTC for everything internally is The Right Thing. [14:57:28] <Boudewijn> the second give the right time, which is 16:43 [14:57:59] <Boudewijn> duesentrieb, where do I set the UTC [14:58:05] <Duesentrieb> Boudewijn: mediawiki has two or three time zone settings effecting different things. basically, one is global, one is per user, and one is screwed up :) [14:58:20] <Duesentrieb> Boudewijn: huh? set the UTC? how would you set it? [14:58:21] <Nikerabbit> and date_default_timezone_set('UTC'); [14:58:25] <Duesentrieb> gmdate, by definition, gives utcv [14:58:32] <Nikerabbit> there is like gazillion of differnt functions and variables [14:58:39] <Duesentrieb> Boudewijn: listen to Nikerabbit and read the link he provided :) [14:59:05] <Nikerabbit> Duesentrieb: except that I'm not correct and that page sucks too [14:59:13] <Duesentrieb> :P [14:59:15] <Duesentrieb> fix it :) [15:03:26] <Boudewijn> hmm, this suck [15:03:27] <Boudewijn> s [15:06:59] <Boudewijn> when I use date_default_timezone_set('UTC') I get also the wrong 14:43 [15:07:32] <Boudewijn> but when I make it correct with Europe/Paris...the date function gives the correct time [15:07:48] <Boudewijn> but still, the Wiki overrules to the wrong time [15:09:44] <meth> is there a link with only syntax extensions ? [15:10:19] <Nikerabbit> meth: what? [15:13:26] <meth> like a list of extensions that add new wiki markup abilities [15:14:09] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) text of revisions in the archive table that were deleted before Wikipedia started using MediaWiki 1.5 is corrupt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19990 major; Normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (grahamwp) [15:19:41] <Boudewijn> guys, how on earth is MW capable of getting a time which is 2 hours less then the server time [15:20:15] <Boudewijn> the server is already on date_default_timezone_set("Europe/Amsterdam"); [15:20:17] <wikibugs> 03(mod) text of revisions in the archive table that were deleted before Wikipedia started using MediaWiki 1.5 is corrupt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19990 +comment (10brion) [15:20:25] <Boudewijn> which works fine, but the Wiki doesnt use it [15:20:32] <brion> Boudewijn: UTC default? [15:21:08] <Boudewijn> the UTC gives the wrong -2 hours [15:21:23] <brion> UTC is 2 hours behind Europe/Amsterdam [15:21:26] <brion> so that sounds right [15:21:59] <brion> Boudewijn: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Timezone ? [15:22:00] <Boudewijn> well, why doesnt the Wiki use UTC+2 hours [15:22:10] <Boudewijn> nothing works, tried it all [15:22:13] <brion> because it defaults to UTC, not whatever your server happens to be set to [15:22:16] <Boudewijn> many people have same problem.. [15:22:26] <brion> see the manual for now to set the default display differently [15:22:44] <brion> headin into the office... [15:25:30] <Boudewijn> there is no comment to let the MW get 2 hours later [15:25:30] <Boudewijn> command [15:34:31] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Provide default time zone selection in installer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19991 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Installation; (brion) [15:35:16] <petaflot> hello! I need a small extension for MediaWiki, basically more details on users (like latitude/longitude and some integer/boolean values). would anybody be interrested in doing that job for me? where is the best place for me to ask? [15:36:18] <Nikerabbit> petaflot: you should look into the semantic extensions [15:36:53] <charitwo> !hesaidsemantic [15:36:53] --mwbot-- http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/576/hesaidsemanticga2.jpg [15:45:49] <petaflot> Nikerabbit: this seems like a good clue if you ask me.. [15:46:55] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Support client-side date/time formatting for user's local timezone (JavaScript) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19992 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (brion) [15:47:06] <wikibugs> 03(mod) text of revisions in the archive table that were deleted before Wikipedia started using MediaWiki 1.5 is corrupt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19990 (10grahamwp) [15:50:17] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Support client-side date/time formatting for user's local timezone (JavaScript) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19992 (10brion) [15:51:00] <wikibugs> 03(mod) text of revisions in the archive table that were deleted before Wikipedia started using MediaWiki 1.5 is corrupt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19990 (10grahamwp) [16:22:44] <hansengel> hi guys [16:22:52] <hansengel> I'm setting up my monobook.js [16:22:56] *vvv tried to run MW using PHP6 [16:23:09] <hansengel> just realized to set $wgAllowUserJs (that's the name IIRC) [16:23:10] <werdna> o rly [16:23:19] <hansengel> now I'm importing a script from Wikipedia [16:23:20] <ialex> vvv: me too [16:23:29] <hansengel> and looking in firebug, checking why it isn't working [16:23:47] <hansengel> running importScript() on this page on WIkipedia is returning HTML, not JS [16:23:55] <hansengel> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sander_S%C3%A4de/quickpreview.js [16:24:20] <werdna> that's because it *is* HTML [16:24:36] <hansengel> but, uh [16:24:42] <werdna> you need to import /w/index.php?title=someTitle&action=raw [16:24:46] <hansengel> aaaaah. [16:24:47] <hansengel> ok [16:24:58] <ialex> &ctype=text/javascript [16:25:07] <hansengel> the guide is wrong then :S [16:25:22] <MrZ-man> hansengel: importScript() is for local scripts, importScriptURI() is for scripts from other sites [16:25:32] <hansengel> MrZ-man: oh, I see [16:25:43] <hansengel> that must be why [16:25:49] <ialex> vvv: the unicode engine broke the whole MW :) [16:27:19] <werdna> hello brion [16:28:02] *ialex kills CIA-69 [16:28:03] *CIA-69 dies [16:28:07] <werdna> o-o [16:28:28] <brion> oh my [16:28:46] <werdna> brion: btw I'll wager the problem with CIA-69 is because you added the CodeReview links [16:29:03] <brion> cia-69 doesn't run off the list mails [16:29:07] <meth> how do i get nice alert boxes like on this page ? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Gnuplot [16:29:09] <werdna> ah [16:29:29] <vvv> That list in topic contains tracking bugs [16:30:15] <werdna> add a keyword 'tracking' to tracking bugs, exclude it from the search [16:30:28] <MrZ-man> I think the CIA bots will work with any email, even if it doesn't contain the commit details [16:33:21] <brion> ciabot_svn.py "$REPOS" "$REV" "mediawiki" & [16:33:41] <brion> it gets its own hit [16:33:58] <vvv> werdna: I need bugzilla admin to add a keyword [16:34:07] <werdna> what keyword? [16:34:30] <vvv> tracking [16:36:14] <werdna> done [16:36:30] <meth> ? [16:37:32] <werdna> vvv: I'm doing the bulk change [16:38:13] <vvv> werdna: thanks [16:38:48] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Improve security for Special:Userlogin (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9816 +tracking; +comment (10agarrett) [16:38:51] <wikibugs> 03(mod) ENotif/EConfirm & further enhancements (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1932 +tracking; +comment (10agarrett) [16:40:22] <wikibugs> 03(mod) SVG rasterisation on Wikimedia sites (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8901 +tracking; +comment (10agarrett) [16:40:24] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Microsoft SQL Server/MSSQL support (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9767 +tracking; +comment (10agarrett) [16:40:29] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Use semantic XHTML (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10467 +tracking; +comment (10agarrett) [16:40:33] <wikibugs> 03(mod) DynamicPageList requests (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12423 +tracking; +comment (10agarrett) [16:40:35] <wikibugs> 03(mod) CSS (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12788 +tracking; +comment (10agarrett) [16:40:37] <werdna> bah [16:40:49] <Alphos> :/ [16:40:58] <Alphos> it's so quiet now :/ [16:41:07] <Prodego> werdna: set +z [16:41:10] <Prodego> then you can see it [16:41:16] <meth> :[ [16:41:39] <werdna> I don't want to see it [16:41:41] <werdna> that's the whole point [16:41:55] <Prodego> heh, then you might as well just /ignore it [16:42:00] <Alphos> ./ignore could work fine [16:42:02] <Alphos> heh [16:42:08] <werdna> or I could +q it, and then *nobody* can see it [16:42:16] <Alphos> ^^ [16:43:15] *Prodego changes all bugs to 04BLOCKER [16:43:22] <Prodego> while no one is looking [16:43:24] <Prodego> :) [16:44:13] <Alphos> too late Prodego :p [16:44:35] <meth> this page has another nice looking yellow box at the top that i don't seem to have support for in my wiki install http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LinkHint [16:45:04] <Prodego> meth: that's just a template [16:45:22] <meth> yea but are these not provided by deafult ? [16:45:33] <Prodego> nope, you have to make them, there are no generic ones [16:46:02] <meth> mediawiki site seems to have a bunch ... your saying they are not provided ? [16:46:33] <meth> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LinkSearch here is another one [16:46:34] <Prodego> you could copy them, but the idea is that they are custom designed for whatever use you want for them [16:46:50] <wikibugs> 03(mod) non-standard port redirection bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19982 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [16:46:53] <meth> they seem pretty standard to me and other wiki's provide them built in [16:47:23] <Prodego> the exact template is not built in, because 99% of templates on one site wouldn't make any sense on another [16:47:24] <meth> how could i copy them ? [16:47:44] <meth> well a warning box or code sections etc... are pretty standard... [16:47:57] <meth> or like a box with a nice colored header... [16:48:04] <Prodego> Well those are customized to say things like "This extension is obsolete!" [16:48:07] <Prodego> that is actually in the template [16:48:20] <Prodego> you might be better off looking at how they made the template, and then designing your own like it [16:48:31] <meth> whre can i see ? [16:48:32] <Prodego> here's the code of the second template: http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Template:ObsoleteExtension&action=edit [16:49:19] <meth> that looks rather complex [16:49:27] <meth> and i don't see where it's parsing any input or such [16:51:23] <meth> is that self sufficient ? i mean does it not need some kind of php code to detect the {{ and replace it ? [16:52:53] <meth> prodego ? [16:53:10] <Prodego> well the template syntax is built in [16:53:20] <christel> /5/5 [16:53:22] <meth> so you don't even need php code ? [16:53:26] <Nikerabbit> what's up [16:53:31] <Prodego> meth: right [16:53:33] <Prodego> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates [16:53:38] <Prodego> that explains the syntax [16:53:46] <meth> k [16:53:51] <meth> but you can also use the php code if you want right ? [16:53:54] <meth> i mean php method [16:53:59] <Prodego> you may wish to read http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Contents [16:54:08] <Prodego> you shouldn't need to use PHP for anything at all [16:54:18] <meth> but if you wanted to ? [16:54:24] <Nikerabbit> hmm 852 bugs is too much for bugzilla... how much is not too much? [16:54:26] <meth> i saw the <google/> example used php code and seemed easy [16:54:50] <meth> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Google [16:55:07] <Prodego> yes, that is an extention, something that adds new features to mediawiki [16:55:37] <Prodego> you can install any of those you want, but that isn't what the wiki is used for, it just gives it new features [16:55:59] <Nikerabbit> ^demon|lunch: this is for you: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18855 :o [16:57:45] <Nikerabbit> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18628 this is weird... can anybody reproduce? [17:00:02] <Nikerabbit> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17906 wth? user confuses KB and MB? [17:03:21] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Inconsistent functionality of {{int:message}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17360 (10niklas.laxstrom) [17:03:42] <Nikerabbit> one less [17:10:38] <^demon> Nikerabbit: Yes I know :) [17:12:42] <^demon> werdna: Thank you for the spam :) [17:13:32] <werdna> yvw [17:13:47] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Change autoconfirmed settings on plwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19993 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (danny.leinad) [17:14:30] <^demon> werdna: I came back from lunch to an inbox full of batch bug changes :p [17:14:42] <werdna> :) [17:15:20] <werdna> 46 changes [17:16:25] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Some restricted special pages aren't marked as such - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19436 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [17:17:26] <freakolowsky> yo dudes & dudettes ... i've got an issue here ... finaly moved an old instance from 13.4 to a one month old svn version ... now this svn version works with my testcase instalation ... but with this DB it just gives me a blank output ... i just made sure db schema was corrected ... suggestions [17:18:00] <freakolowsky> it gets stuck somwhere in MessageCache ... [17:18:31] <meth> prodego so templates just add new wiki markup while extensions add new functionality ? [17:19:30] <Prodego> sort of [17:31:56] <werdna> freakolowsky: did you run update.php [17:32:52] <wikibugs> 14(DUP) Allow bureaucrats to create custom user groups - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19352 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [17:33:06] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Allow group rights to be changed on-wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15252 (10alex.emsenhuber) [17:34:18] <wikibugs> 03(WONTFIX) wgSquidMaxage of 0 (zero) not allowed. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9071 +comment (10innocentkiller) [17:36:00] <^demon> Heh, bug 8674: Extra large font in Windows 95/IE 5.5 [17:37:47] <Ose> bah [17:38:23] <Ose> why does parserunctions, stringfunctions, templates, parameters and tables all use | and {}? [17:39:14] <wikibugs> 14(INVALID) non-standard port redirection bug - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19982 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [17:40:19] <freakolowsky> werdna ... how long does this script take to finish [17:40:32] <^demon> Ose: Once upon a time someone thought {{...}} would be a good way to indicate templates. Parser functions evolved from that. [17:40:35] <^demon> The end. [17:41:18] <freakolowsky> ^demon c'mon ... no horror stories in public chat [17:41:21] <Ose> what we need is an extension that color codes the different parts or something [17:42:03] <RoanKattouw> The usability initiative plans on implementing syntax highlighting in the future [17:42:24] <Ose> including templates/parserfunctions/etc? [17:42:30] <^demon> RoanKattouw: The usability initiative should put a ton of resources into bug 8674 ;-) [17:42:42] <^demon> "Extra large font in Windows 95/IE 5.5" hahaha [17:42:58] <RoanKattouw> lol [17:43:05] *^demon files [17:43:09] <^demon> "Improve IE4 support" [17:43:13] <RoanKattouw> It seems to be Trevor's policy to screw everything older than IE6 [17:43:32] <TrevorParscal> well, I made vector work on IE5.5 [17:44:00] <^demon> I used to have a sandbox environment with IE3 - 6....I miss that :-\ [17:44:01] <^demon> brb [17:44:02] <werdna> why? [17:44:09] <RoanKattouw> Intentionally or as a side effect of IE6 support? :P [17:45:06] <TrevorParscal> intentionally [17:45:44] <TrevorParscal> IE5.5 compatibility is unfortunately never a side-effect of anything... incompatibility is a side-effect of everything [17:46:06] <freakolowsky> werdna ... this update.php script ... besides schema changes and objectcache purge ... what does it do ... because i don't think it will be any good for Oracle ... [17:46:24] <werdna> freakolowsky: just schema changes and purges and such [17:46:28] <RoanKattouw> freakolowsky: Remember that schema changes also means new tables [17:47:06] <freakolowsky> RoanKattouw yes but i've already changed the schema ... this script just hangs a process [17:47:14] <RoanKattouw> Weird [17:47:24] <freakolowsky> and i don't think it actually works with Oracle [17:47:36] <RoanKattouw> So make it work with Oracle xD [17:47:46] <RoanKattouw> You're the Oracle guy, right? [17:48:04] <freakolowsky> :D :P ... just have about 16 working hours per day ... the rest i sleep [18:02:29] <CIA-69> 03ariel * r53953 10/trunk/tools/upload-scripts/sync: update for current setup (ms1=images ms4=thumbs) [18:03:00] *^demon hugs CIA-69 [18:03:00] *CIA-69 hugs ^demon [18:05:08] <CIA-69> 03tparscal * r53954 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (7 files in 3 dirs): [18:05:08] <CIA-69> Reconfigured the script inclusion system a bit to allow combined, combined-min [18:05:08] <CIA-69> and raw modes to be set in local settings. Added a script to automatically [18:05:08] <CIA-69> combine and minify scripts. Fixed a bug in jquery.wikiOutline.js that caused [18:05:08] <CIA-69> superfluous <ul></ul> tags to appear in the outline list. Refactored the [18:05:11] <CIA-69> buildStructure function a bit to make it cleaner and easier to understand. [18:05:37] <Nikerabbit> werdna: should you put a better url in the topic? [18:07:47] <wikibugs> 03(mod) preview instead of save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2603 (10niklas.laxstrom) [18:09:06] <Nikerabbit> 825 bugsie [18:09:27] <CIA-69> 03ariel * r53955 10/trunk/tools/upload-scripts/README: HTCPurge definitely no longer used [18:10:49] <freakolowsky> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSASDAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ... i need to go to Rehab ... SERI-FREAKIN-OUS typO addiction!!!! [18:11:03] <CIA-69> 03brion * r53921 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/CodeRevision.php: Chunk file list inserts on revision save; giant civicrm vendor branch import overran packet size on my local install :P [18:11:07] *freakolowsky bang his head against the wall [18:12:21] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Give <noinclude> and <onlyinclude> sections a CSS class when viewing/editing the containing page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5722 normal->lowest (10chinchi29) [18:14:32] <CIA-69> 03tparscal * r53956 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/Resources/jquery.textSelection.js: Combined plugins of similar function. [18:15:02] <CIA-69> 03brion * r53917 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/parserTests.inc: Fix regression I introduced breaking wgMaxTocLevel test case... whoops! [18:15:45] <CIA-69> 03tparscal * r53957 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/Resources/jquery.scrolltextarea.js: Combined plugins of similar function. [18:16:13] <wikibugs> 03(WONTFIX) Allow specifying additional CSS classes on inlined images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6233 (10chinchi29) [18:16:34] <CIA-69> 03tparscal * r53958 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Combined plugins of similar function. [18:16:49] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) interwiki link for strategy wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19994 major; Normal; Wikimedia: Interwiki links; (pbeaudette) [18:18:28] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Create Special:Sources and {{#source:}} - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10867 (10N/A) [18:18:30] <wikibugs> 03(mod) ISWC-Numbers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19439 (10N/A) [18:18:36] <wikibugs> 03(mod) ISSN Magic Numbers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3663 (10N/A) [18:18:39] <CIA-69> 03ialex * r53959 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES languages/messages/MessagesMt.php): [18:18:39] <CIA-69> * (bug 19968) Fixed "Project talk" namespace name for Maltese (mt) [18:18:39] <CIA-69> Old namespace name added in alias list for b/c [18:18:49] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Maltese Wikipedia and Wiktionary namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19968 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [18:19:15] <^demon> Oh god, it's going through all the lagged ones too? [18:19:44] <Splarka> now if only CIA would do that, heh [18:20:01] <wikibugs> 03(WONTFIX) Add personal Common.css & Common.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10183 (10chinchi29) [18:20:10] <OverlordQ> >_> [18:20:17] <Nikerabbit> who supports reopening this: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10626 ? [18:21:43] <^demon> Nikerabbit: Meh. [18:21:54] <^demon> The RFC/PMID/etc links suck, but removing them now would suck too. [18:21:58] <Platonides> we should probably deprecate and remove those magic links [18:22:01] <wikibugs> 03(mod) edit history at 2010 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19984 (10herd) [18:22:32] <Nikerabbit> ^demon: config option to turn them off, defaulting true for next release and then off? [18:23:29] <freakolowsky> bah ... enough bug production for 2day [18:23:42] <Nikerabbit> should users be able to define their own time formats? [18:23:44] <CIA-69> 03dale * r53918 10/trunk/extensions/WikiAtHome/WikiAtHome.sql: updated db schema [18:23:48] <CIA-69> 03werdna * r53938 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/lqt.css: Up-size thread-level commands. [18:26:10] <Nikerabbit> The following information is cached, and was last updated 14:37, 29 December 2006. [18:26:17] <Nikerabbit> hilarious, that's not even useful anymore [18:26:33] *^demon shrugs [18:28:21] <wikibugs> 03(mod) skin setting changing to 'simple' after saving unrelated settings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6274 (10niklas.laxstrom) [18:29:15] <CIA-69> 03yaron * r53937 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormPrinter.inc: Mandatory-radiobutton validation only called when necessary - F.trott's fix [18:29:25] <CIA-69> 03yaron * r53950 10/tags/extensions/SemanticForms/REL_1_8_1/: Tag for version 1.8.1 [18:29:34] <CIA-69> 03daniel * r53949 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWordBuilder/src/main/java/de/brightbyte/wikiword/ (15 files in 3 dirs): reworked prepare/finalyze cycle for ConceptStore and IncrementalStore; aid GC by detaching buffers early. don't disable keys when no more imports are pending. [18:29:36] <Nikerabbit> Simetrical: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6458 :) [18:29:46] <CIA-69> 03yaron * r53936 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormInputs.inc: Made first letter case-insensitive for autocompletion sources [18:29:58] <CIA-69> 03brion * r53920 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Add updater entries for new tables/fields... need to add the enum change though still. [18:30:08] <CIA-69> 03nikerabbit * r53924 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Bugfixes [18:30:17] <CIA-69> 03werdna * r53941 10/trunk/mwdumper/src/org/mediawiki/importer/ (Page.java XmlDumpReader.java): Parse thread data from XML dumps where present, put it in the Page object for further processing (which is to come in the next commit) [18:30:19] <CIA-69> 03yaron * r53939 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/ (SF_FormEditTab.php SF_GlobalFunctions.php): Added form-edit-tab handling for new "Vector" skin in MW 1.16 [18:30:30] <CIA-69> 03daniel * r53927 10/trunk/WikiWord/ (6 files in 2 dirs): {{0}} [18:30:41] <CIA-69> 03daniel * r53902 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWordBuilder4LifeScience/: consolidate special propery extraction code into WikiWordProperties [18:30:53] <CIA-69> 03nikerabbit * r53947 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/SpecialManageGroups.php: Bugfixes [18:31:05] <CIA-69> 03yaron * r53946 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/INSTALL: New version: 1.8.1 [18:31:16] <CIA-69> 03ialex * r53926 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialListgrouprights.php: Fix for r53757 per Nikerabbit's comment: these can also be "true", only do array_unique() if they're array [18:31:27] <CIA-69> 03yaron * r53945 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_ParserFunctions.php: Added handling and explanation for new 'post button' link type for #formlink [18:31:31] <ialex> ouch [18:31:38] <CIA-69> 03alexsh * r53930 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryBrokenRedirects.php: forget to set table name to variable [18:31:52] <CIA-69> 03brion * r53900 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SearchMySQL.php: And for good measure, force the count to an integer. Sigh... *stab php* [18:31:57] <Splarka> ugh [18:32:05] <CIA-69> 03nikerabbit * r53925 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (7 files in 4 dirs): [18:32:05] <CIA-69> * Move message index to cdb (standard location, permissions, etc) [18:32:05] <CIA-69> * Make it a class function that can be called from anywhere, and remove now useless MessageIndex which was causing bugs [18:32:18] <werdna> o-o [18:32:24] <CIA-69> 03rotem * r53898 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update. [18:32:26] *^demon stabs CIA-69 [18:32:35] <CIA-69> 03werdna * r53887 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/lqt.css: Replace ugly boxes with one stroke underneath the header [18:32:43] <RoanKattouw> WTF [18:32:44] <Splarka> but if we mute it we might miss something, best let it run its course I guess, heh [18:32:46] <werdna> random order \o/ [18:32:50] <CIA-69> 03catrope * r53909 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (7 files in 2 dirs): [18:32:50] <CIA-69> OptIn: Fixes per Brion's review [18:32:50] <CIA-69> * Make browser/OS detection JS less fragile by using text keys for questions and answers [18:32:50] <CIA-69> * Make ois_question a varchar(16) to accomodate this [18:32:51] <CIA-69> * Fix the issue where the title on the "Welcome to Beta" page would change to "Leave Beta" after refreshing or after logging in on an already opted-in account [18:32:54] <CIA-69> * Remove obsolete PrefStats file [18:32:58] <CIA-69> 03dale * r53885 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiUpload.php: improved upload api documentation [18:33:07] <^demon> Can someone +q for a bit? [18:33:08] <CIA-69> 03catrope * r53888 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/ (5 files): EditToolbar: Add a basic set of special characters for use on all wikis. Contains Latin, IPA, Symbols, Greek, Cyrillic, Arabic and Hebrew. Will likely add more sets later. [18:33:12] <^demon> Until it settles down? [18:33:18] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Fatal bug in upgrade from 1.4.x, "tag conditions not met" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6817 (10niklas.laxstrom) [18:33:22] <Nikerabbit> yay [18:33:23] <CIA-69> 03ialex * r53897 10/trunk/phase3/includes/parser/Parser.php: Per Simetrical's comment on r53832: only trim if there're newlines [18:33:33] <ialex> wow [18:33:33] <CIA-69> 03yaron * r53935 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_Utils.inc: Added error-checking when initializing special properties [18:33:39] <Nikerabbit> almost there [18:33:45] <CIA-69> 03brion * r53919 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [18:33:45] <CIA-69> * (bug 19957) All known-failing tests now marked disabled; added --run-disabled option to parser test suite to run disabled tests if desired. [18:33:45] <CIA-69> Based on Dan Nessett's patch set. [18:33:45] <CIA-69> I put back one of the test cases which does, in fact, work at least on my config. :) [18:33:47] <ialex> > 24 hours lag! [18:33:56] <CIA-69> 03werdna * r53882 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/lqt.css: Kill even/odd alternating colouring, Parul made me do it! [18:34:04] <AaronSchulz> brion: hey [18:34:08] <CIA-69> 03catrope * r53931 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/OptIn/ (OptIn.js SpecialOptIn.php): OptIn: Partial implementation of storing detected browser+OS on opt-in time using AJAX [18:34:21] <Reedy> CIA been AFK? [18:34:21] <CIA-69> 03gmaxwell * r53878 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/OggHandler_body.php: [18:34:21] <CIA-69> OggHandler thumbnailing: FFMpeg has some problems seeking to keyframes causing [18:34:21] <CIA-69> it to fail. The existing fallback doesn't work for streams without audio. This [18:34:21] <CIA-69> change adds an additional fallback to simply grab the first frame if all else [18:34:22] <CIA-69> fails. [18:34:31] <CIA-69> 03ialex * r53944 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Profiler.php: Avoid infinite loop when an exception occurs in command line mode [18:34:31] <Splarka> Reedy: yah [18:34:34] <Reedy> lol [18:34:42] <CIA-69> 03mkroetzsch * r53932 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/storage/SMW_SQLStore2.php: use property to determine datatype whenever possible (do not rely on datavalue object) [18:34:53] <CIA-69> 03raymond * r53892 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/Translate.i18n.php: Add colon for consistency with other labels [18:35:04] <CIA-69> 03shinjiman * r53943 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): * (bug 19809) Split the North Korean language, move the North Korean calendar from ko to ko-KP. [18:35:11] <Splarka> CIA-69> ialex * r53959 /trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES languages/messages/MessagesMt.php) <- it has already reported the latest one, too, so very random [18:35:13] <^demon> werdna: The randomness is what's making me laugh...I can't figure a pattern :p [18:35:48] <Nikerabbit> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7358 wontfix? [18:36:25] <^demon> Nikerabbit: Maybe? [18:36:46] <Nikerabbit> yes or no? [18:37:04] <Splarka> constancy [18:37:05] <^demon> Reply fuzzy, try again later. [18:37:35] <Nikerabbit> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7803 awww [18:37:39] <wikibugs> 03(mod) No message shown anymore (blank) after flagging [if JavaScript is disabled] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19981 (10JSchulz_4587) [18:37:57] <wikibugs> 03(mod) [Patch] Namespace manager - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7803 (10N/A) [18:38:18] <^demon> Nikerabbit: IMHO, anything asking for on-wiki config should either be sent to Configure or WONTFIX'd. [18:38:27] <CIA-69> 03brion * r53904 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQuerySearch.php): (log message trimmed) [18:38:27] <CIA-69> * Added fields to list=search output: size, wordcount, timestamp, snippet [18:38:27] <CIA-69> * Where supported by backend, list=search adds a 'searchinfo' element with [18:38:27] <CIA-69> optional info: 'totalhits' count and 'suggestion' alternate query term [18:38:29] <CIA-69> Snippets added to result items earlier by Roan; extended this with the other [18:38:31] <CIA-69> byte size, word count, and timestamp available on the result items and exposed [18:38:33] <CIA-69> through the regular UI. [18:38:37] <CIA-69> 03daniel * r53907 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWordBuilder/src/main/java/de/brightbyte/wikiword/store/builder/DatabaseLocalConceptStoreBuilder.java: force index in deleteLinksToBadConcepts [18:38:42] <Nikerabbit> ^demon: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7934 what about this? [18:38:43] <werdna> ^demon: Configure needs to be merged into core [18:38:48] <CIA-69> 03catrope * r53896 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/OptIn/OptIn.i18n.php: Re-add localizations accidentally removed in r53894 [18:38:50] <werdna> and probably redone in a few ways [18:38:56] *^demon assigns that to werdna [18:38:59] <CIA-69> 03daniel * r53875 10/trunk/WikiWord/ (7 files in 5 dirs): test & fix: alises, about, interlanguage, etc [18:39:02] <CIA-69> 03catrope * r53929 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (6 files in 2 dirs): [18:39:02] <CIA-69> * OptIn: Remove text about new search interface, enabled globally [18:39:02] <CIA-69> * OptIn: Remove blank option from dropdowns [18:39:02] <CIA-69> * PrefStats: Add population script [18:39:03] <CIA-69> * PrefStats: Show message when no prefs are being tracked [18:39:05] <CIA-69> * PrefStats: Quote timestamps [18:39:07] <CIA-69> * PrefStats: Register 'prefstats' rights, document a bit [18:39:09] <werdna> it's not quite there for on-wiki config [18:39:16] <CIA-69> 03tparscal * r53960 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (Resources/ UsabilityInitiative.hooks.php js/): Renamed Resources to js. [18:39:20] <CIA-69> 03nikerabbit * r53874 10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 4 dirs): [18:39:20] <CIA-69> I'm being bold here, proposed solution to: [18:39:20] <CIA-69> * (bug 16697) Unicode combining characters are difficult to edit in some browsers [18:39:22] <CIA-69> Adds font style option to preferences and adds default override for Lingala (ln) [18:39:31] <CIA-69> 03brion * r53905 10/branches/wmf-deployment/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQuerySearch.php): Merge r52854, r53904 to deployment -- API search enhancements [18:39:41] <Nikerabbit> Danny_B: can you test this: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8143 ? [18:39:44] <CIA-69> 03nad * r53908 10/trunk/extensions/SimpleSecurity/SimpleSecurity.php: fix problem with incompatible fetchObject() on 1.16alpha [18:39:46] <^demon> Nikerabbit: Hmm, 7934 is probably a WFM. [18:39:47] <CIA-69> 03tparscal * r53961 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/combine.js.sh: Renamed Resources to js. [18:39:56] <CIA-69> 03raymond * r53890 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Follow-up r53874: Add section header for maintenance scripts [18:40:08] <CIA-69> 03tparscal * r53913 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/NavigableTOC/NavigableTOC.js: More no conflict stuff. [18:40:08] <Nikerabbit> ^demon: then do so? :o [18:40:16] <ialex> <werdna> ^demon: Configure needs to be merged into core ... after some rewrite! [18:40:22] <CIA-69> 03mrzman * r53910 10/trunk/extensions/IndexFunction/ (IndexAbstracts.php IndexFunction.php SpecialIndex.php): [18:40:22] <CIA-69> Add an option to get an abstract from the article text, [18:40:22] <CIA-69> rather than a list of categories for the context in the [18:40:22] <CIA-69> auto-disambig pages. Abstract code borrowed from [18:40:23] <CIA-69> OpenSearchXML extension by Brion Vibber [18:40:33] <werdna> ialex: 18:38 < werdna> and probably redone in a few ways [18:42:02] <wikibugs> 14(WFM) extern login problems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7934 +comment (10innocentkiller) [18:43:42] <CIA-69> 03tparscal * r53912 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/NavigableTOC/NavigableTOC.js: No conflict stuff. [18:43:54] <CIA-69> 03dale * r53916 10/trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/jsScriptLoader.php: updated json_encode call to api version [18:44:06] <CIA-69> 03nikerabbit * r53873 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 4 dirs): * (bug 14454) "Member of group(s)" in Special:Preferences causes language difficulties [18:44:19] <CIA-69> 03tparscal * r53911 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/NavigableTOC/ (4 files): Totally changed tactics, and am now dynamically building the outline on the client side by parsing the wikitext. Still needs work, especially in performance and the UI, but it's working quite nicely! [18:44:32] <CIA-69> 03shinjiman * r53923 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Literary Chinese [18:44:37] <^demon> Can someone who understands magic words better than I poke at bug 12480? [18:46:35] <CIA-69> 03brion * r53895 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/PrefStats/getstats.sql: remove stray execute bit [18:46:39] <Splarka> ^demon: the solution is to migrate all variables and magic words (and existing parser functions) to hash names [18:46:57] <Splarka> and then get stabbed [18:47:35] <Splarka> the problem is the hashing isn't part of the name so you can't alias it with/without hash for a migration period (unless you rewrite it so it is so you can) [18:47:42] <Splarka> (total tangent but meh) [18:48:14] <wikibugs> 03(WONTFIX) reserved pages in the template namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12480 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [18:49:25] <ialex> RoanKattouw: the first ":" is even not needed imho [18:49:36] <RoanKattouw> Yeah you're right [18:49:47] <Nikerabbit> ^demon: what about it? [18:50:01] <CIA-69> 03simetrical * r53879 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Revert apparent typos from r53873 [18:50:03] <Nikerabbit> not a bug imho [18:50:14] <CIA-69> 03tstarling * r53872 10/branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/CentralAuth/ (. CentralAuth.php CentralAuthHooks.php CentralAuthUser.php): Merged r53602. [18:52:30] <Nikerabbit> maybe we should just take one bug at a time and decide what to do to it together and fix if possible [18:53:43] <CIA-69> 03dale * r53876 10/trunk/extensions/WikiAtHome/ (5 files): more updates around derivatives (not working yet) [18:53:55] <CIA-69> 03nad * r53922 10/trunk/extensions/TreeAndMenu/TreeAndMenu.php: update special:version link [18:54:15] <Splarka> hmm, CIA should be almost done, that is 67 so far out of ~90 missed [18:54:54] <Nikerabbit> ialex: does $1 now work in ns aliases? [18:55:30] <ialex> Nikerabbit: yes imho [18:56:02] <ialex> Language.php lines 325-331 [18:57:15] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Gallery: No Image prefix needed? (not working) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17685 +comment (10innocentkiller) [18:57:16] <CIA-69> 03werdna * r53948 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (lqt.css pages/TalkpageView.php): Add a nifty little search box to discussion pages for searching the threads on *that* page. [18:57:27] <CIA-69> 03dale * r53881 10/trunk/phase3/includes/HttpFunctions.php: * ( bug 19932 ) simpleFileWriter::close was still issuing a update_session_progress call even if do_close_session_update was off [18:57:38] <CIA-69> 03daniel * r53903 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWordProperties/ (4 files in 3 dirs): tweaking special property extraction [18:57:42] <Nikerabbit> ialex: good [19:00:13] <Nikerabbit> since when self inclusion allowed? [19:00:28] <wikibugs> 03(WONTFIX) Add "name" attributes to anchors to support older browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5567 +comment (10innocentkiller) [19:00:49] <CIA-69> 03dale * r53915 10/trunk/extensions/WikiAtHome/ (8 files): [19:00:49] <CIA-69> wiki@home updates, [19:00:49] <CIA-69> * added api Stubs for actions [19:00:49] <CIA-69> * added api documentation [19:00:49] <CIA-69> * added configuration variables for server side resource usage control [19:00:50] <CIA-69> * basic javascipt interface stubs [19:00:58] <CIA-69> 03daniel * r53901 10/trunk/WikiWord/ (4 files in 4 dirs): consolidate special propery extraction code into WikiWordProperties [19:00:59] <wikibugs> 14(DUP) XHTML validation errors -- some "id" attributes are not unique - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17650 +comment (10innocentkiller) [19:01:00] <CIA-69> 03shinjiman * r53880 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Literary Chinese [19:01:12] <CIA-69> 03brion * r53906 10/branches/wmf-deployment/api.php: Check $wgServer instead of config-local $secure global to avoid borking local installs with the live hack [19:01:14] <wikibugs> 03(mod) User-specified HTML IDs can be the same as interface IDs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7356 +comment (10innocentkiller) [19:04:32] <CIA-69> 03werdna * r53889 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (icons/lqt-icon-quote.png icons/lqt-icon-quote.svg lqt.js): Remove icon for quoting, Parul says it is distracting. [19:04:43] <CIA-69> 03raymond * r53886 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Follow-up r53873: Make new message optional for translatewiki [19:04:55] <CIA-69> 03raymond * r53891 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Follow-up r53874: Add colon for consistency with other labels [19:05:06] <CIA-69> 03brion * r53899 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SearchMySQL.php: *slap self* fix hit counts for title searches when counts in mysql are enabled. [19:05:07] <CIA-69> 03daniel * r53877 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWordBuilder/src/main/java/de/brightbyte/wikiword/wikis/WikiConfiguration_dewiki.java: detect lists in dewiki [19:05:13] <CIA-69> 03dale * r53951 10/trunk/extensions/WikiAtHome/ (ApiWikiAtHome.php WikiAtHome.php WikiAtHome.sql): [19:05:13] <CIA-69> * added wgNumberOfClientsPerJobSet to ApiWIki [19:05:13] <CIA-69> * some schema changes [19:05:16] <CIA-69> 03catrope * r53893 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/OptIn/ (OptIn.i18n.php OptIn.php): OptIn: Tweak messages [19:05:20] <CIA-69> 03catrope * r53894 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/OptIn/OptIn.i18n.php: OptIn: ...and one more message tweak [19:05:31] <CIA-69> 03daniel * r53934 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWordBuilder/src/main/java/de/brightbyte/wikiword/store/builder/DatabaseLocalConceptStoreBuilder.java: warn, don't die, on duplicate concepts [19:05:42] <CIA-69> 03dale * r53884 10/trunk/phase3/includes/HttpFunctions.php: checking for session_id() was preventing updates (just put a @ infront to ignore E_NOTICE for php 4.3.3 and greater ) [19:07:00] <Evet> go go rasputin [19:07:58] <ialex> "or php 4.3.3 and greater" we don't support PHP 4 anymore :P [19:08:07] <ialex> +f [19:08:38] <CIA-69> 03tparscal * r53914 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Moved most of the js into a plugin and made some more no-conflict related changes. [19:08:42] <^demon> ialex: I already flagged as fixme for the @ [19:09:03] <CIA-69> 03nikerabbit * r53883 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: * Fix for r53874, missing file [19:09:15] <CIA-69> 03mkroetzsch * r53933 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/articlepages/SMW_PropertyPage.php: typo [19:09:39] <CIA-69> 03werdna * r53942 10/branches/lucene-search-2.1/ (5 files in 5 dirs): [19:09:39] <CIA-69> Search support for LiquidThreads: [19:09:39] <CIA-69> * Add threading data added to XML dumps in WikiExporter and parsed out in MWDumper to the lucene index. [19:09:39] <CIA-69> * Handle the keywords "inthread:topPostID" and "ondiscussionpage:PageID" as conditions on the corresponding thread metadata. [19:09:39] <CIA-69> TODO: Customise search result display for threads. [19:09:41] <CIA-69> TODO: Add a search box :) [19:09:49] <CIA-69> 03werdna * r53952 10/trunk/phase3/includes/HTMLForm.php: Fix regression in r53316, some more intelligent handling. [19:14:00] <largos> is the algorithm for determining page name equality in mediawiki documented anywhere? [19:14:12] <CIA-69> 03werdna * r53962 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/i18n/Lqt.i18n.php: Commit i18n for r53948 [19:15:36] <Nikerabbit> largos: just normalise the titles and do string comparison [19:16:18] <largos> Nikerabbit: I'm not sure what you mean by normalize [19:16:25] <CIA-69> 03werdna * r53940 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/LqtFunctions.php: [19:16:25] <CIA-69> Cleanup for inclusion of thread data in XML dumps: [19:16:25] <CIA-69> * Reduce redundancy in generation code. [19:16:25] <CIA-69> * Add a few more fields that might or might not be useful [19:16:25] <CIA-69> TODO: Update import scripts to handle the extra data correctly [19:16:31] <Nikerabbit> largos: what are you trying to do? [19:16:47] <CIA-69> 03daniel * r53928 10/trunk/WikiWord/ (12 files in 5 dirs): error handling and termination [19:17:21] <largos> Nikerabbit: I'm building a graph of merged/split articles from the full wikipedia data dump -- the over-all goal is to identify content flow through pages and page revisions [19:18:12] <largos> so, I found a subset of about ~50k pages that have been involved in merge / splits, and now I'm trying to pull the full revision histories for those pages out of the 2.8tb xml file with the full dump [19:18:40] <largos> but about 1100 of those titles aren't found by the sax app I wrote to pull <page>'s out [19:19:34] <largos> I'm having a really hard time figuring out exactly why they aren't found -- I'm just using a case-insensitive comparison with the content of <title> nodes, which I now know is wrong [19:20:27] <Nikerabbit> how did you get the list of 50k page names? [19:20:37] <largos> but that doesn't explain all the errors (so I have multiple bugs) anyway, it looks like I need to do something to account for underscores being treated as spaces.. or something like that [19:20:58] <largos> I first found every page revision with a {{merge...}} or {{split...}} template in the content [19:21:24] <largos> then, I looked for any revision following one of those that contined a #redirect[[<title>]] [19:21:40] <Nikerabbit> hmm, there is no pageid in the dumps? [19:21:56] <largos> and saved both the title specified in the #redirect, as well as the <title> for the page containing the redirect [19:22:04] <largos> there is no page ID associated with a #redirect [19:22:27] <largos> (and some of the titles extracted from #redirects are wrong -- typos, etc.) [19:23:57] <largos> so, I expect some of the titles I've extracted don't actually exist [19:24:15] <largos> but some of them certainly do (eg: "filePro" is one of the titles I'm having trouble finding) [19:25:20] <largos> I expect that the filePro page isn't found because of a bug in the way I'm using the sax parser... but I'm having one hell of a time putting together test cases that exhibit the problem [19:25:27] <largos> (and it takes 3 days to run on the full data set) [19:25:58] <Nikerabbit> :o [19:26:09] <largos> so.. I'd like to make sure I'm doing title comparisons "right" this time ;) [19:26:32] <largos> tweaking it, running, then coming back 3 days later and tweaking again.... is really frustrating ;) [19:28:42] <largos> if anyone here is interested -- using a single xml file for full mediawiki data dumps sucks in some ways. [19:29:35] <largos> a directory hierarchy with zipped xml files for each page would be much, much, much easier to deal with [19:29:41] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Change xml:lang and lang from "gem-alsatian" to "gsw" for the Alemannic Wikipedia, etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4793 +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [19:29:42] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Wikis waiting to be renamed (Tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19986 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [19:35:05] <^demon> God I want AllMessages to get synced. [19:35:10] <^demon> Mostly to enwiki, but in general :p [19:35:30] <Nikerabbit> ^demon: ?? [19:36:41] <^demon> The Special:AllMessages cleanup. It hasn't been scapped, so enwiki still sucks :) [19:36:45] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Don't link to empty css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19995 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (Platonides) [19:36:47] <Nikerabbit> oh [19:36:51] <Nikerabbit> everything sucks :o [19:37:07] <GreenReaper> => your mum sucks. [19:37:25] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Don't link to empty css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19995 (10Platonides) [19:37:29] <^demon> GreenReaper: Yeah, well my mom isn't running 1000 revisions behind HEAD, though :p [19:37:49] <wikibugs> 03(mod) interwiki link for strategy wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19994 +shell; +comment (10cbrown1023) [19:38:23] <Alphos> GreenReaper i don't believe Nike.rabbit's mother is a thing [19:38:33] <Alphos> so, technically speaking... [19:39:01] <GreenReaper> ^demon: Hey, if you want your mom to run on HEAD, be my guest . . . [19:39:15] <GreenReaper> Alphos: Well, I'm an atheist. Everyone's a thing to me. :-) [19:39:31] <Alphos> ^^' [19:42:56] <Nikerabbit> you're a troll [19:43:26] <GreenReaper> Hey, I live in a cablecar, not under a bridge! [19:44:07] <Nikerabbit> "MediaWiki only supports image attachments, so any non-image attachments [19:44:08] <Nikerabbit> won't be imported to MediaWiki. " [19:44:22] <Nikerabbit> by sourcefarce [19:44:46] <Nikerabbit> they seem to get better and worse every day [19:49:13] <wikibugs> 03(mod) No message shown anymore (blank) after flagging [if JavaScript is disabled] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19981 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [19:50:09] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Namespace hiding on Special:Search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19996 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Search; (Platonides) [19:50:40] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Namespace hiding on Special:Search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19996 (10Platonides) [19:51:33] <wikibugs> 03(mod) No message shown anymore (blank) after flagging [if JavaScript is disabled] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19981 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [19:54:52] <Guest26319> Hello I have just migrated my wiki family to a new server using Ubuntu and get an error in the WebResponse.php on line 10 on some of the subdomains. Can anyone help please? [19:56:28] <Guest26319> Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /var/www/vhosts/etnopedia.org/subdomains/fr/httpdocs/wiki/LocalSettings.php:166) in /var/www/vhosts/etnopedia.org/subdomains/fr/httpdocs/wiki/includes/WebResponse.php on line 10 [19:56:42] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Make recent change flags acronyms instead of spans - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16311 +comment (10innocentkiller) [19:56:59] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Make recent change flags acronyms instead of spans - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16311 +patch (10innocentkiller) [19:57:10] <infinisoft> You have whitespace in the LocalSettings file [19:59:21] <hansengel> hello [19:59:33] <hansengel> I just downloaded the Vector skin from the MW skin [19:59:45] <hansengel> and after activating, all that is output is 'Override this function.' [19:59:50] <hansengel> I checked the Vector.php [20:00:01] <hansengel> and in that file, execute() is overrided as it should be [20:00:09] <Guest26319> Thanks that was the problem [20:00:50] <CIA-69> 03strainu * r53963 10/trunk/tools/planet/ro/config.ini: First revision of the ro config file. [20:02:11] <hansengel> anyone can guess why? [20:03:23] <Splarka> hansengel: what version of MediaWiki are you on? [20:03:31] <hansengel> 1.14 I think. [20:04:11] <hansengel> upgrade necessary? [20:04:20] <hansengel> maybe it's best, before the DB gets too giant [20:04:59] <Splarka> I'd think Vector requires may of the core changes in 1.16, but TrevorParscal and RoanKattouw would be able to tell you more [20:05:16] <Splarka> ^many [20:05:32] <hansengel> ah. :( [20:07:33] <hansengel> oh well then.. I'll wait until 1.16 [20:07:38] <hansengel> thank you :) [20:07:46] <CIA-69> 03ialex * r53964 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (parserTests.inc parserTests.txt): [20:07:46] <CIA-69> * fixed Parser::runTest() title creation to use Title::newFromText rather than [20:07:46] <CIA-69> Title::makeTitle() that was forcing the namespace to be NS_MAIN and thus broke [20:07:46] <CIA-69> some disabled parser tests that have a title that was supposed to not be in [20:07:46] <CIA-69> NS_MAIN [20:07:47] <CIA-69> * re-enabled now working parser tests: "Magic Word: {{NAMESPACE}}", "Magic Word: {{NAMESPACEE}}" and "Magic Word: {{PAGENAME}}" [20:07:52] <CIA-69> * updated "Magic Word: {{PAGENAMEE}}" test accordingly, since {{PAGENAMEE}} is not {{FULLPAGENAMEE}} [20:19:37] *Splarka wonders if the pagename parser tests should have an entity test, eg &'" [20:21:22] <Splarka> and/or starting with * or ; [20:22:44] <Splarka> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ExpandTemplates?contexttitle=*+foo+%22%26%27&input=%7B%7BPAGENAME%7D%7D%0D%0A%0D%0A%7B%7BPAGENAMEE%7D%7D%0D%0A%0D%0A%7B%7B%23ifeq%3A%7B%7BPAGENAME%7D%7D%7C*+foo+%22%26%27%7Cfoo%7CBar%7D%7D&removecomments=1&generate_xml=1 [20:23:05] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Central database for interwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11423 summary; +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [20:24:28] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Shake for random in Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19997 enhancement; Normal; Wikipedia Mobile: server; (malrase) [20:24:37] <CIA-69> 03daniel * r53965 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWordBuilder/src/main/java/de/brightbyte/wikiword/store/builder/DatabaseWikiWordStoreBuilder.java: use source index per default when resolving redirects [20:25:56] <wikibugs> 03(ASSIGNED) Sister project (interwiki) links should be stored in their own table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14473 -bugday (10alex.emsenhuber) [20:26:14] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Sister project (interwiki) links should be stored in their own table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14473 (10alex.emsenhuber) [20:26:39] <wikibugs> 03(ASSIGNED) Sister project (interwiki) links should be stored in their own table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14473 (10alex.emsenhuber) [20:27:27] <ialex> why the hell can't we change "Assigned To" to self and change status to ASSIGNED in the same request? [20:27:43] <flyingparchment> doesn't assigning it already do that? [20:28:23] <ialex> clicking "Reassing bug to" option changes status to NEW [20:28:24] <^demon> Nope. [20:28:34] <^demon> Has it been fixed upstream? [20:28:38] <cirwin> file a bug-tracker-bug [20:28:42] <ialex> no idea [20:29:19] *cirwin wonders if an inability for a bug-tracker to take reports about bug-trackers would be a bug-tracker-bug-tracker-bug [20:29:23] <Splarka> who did you assign it to the first time? [20:29:45] <ialex> Splarka: wikings-l :P [20:29:51] <ialex> *wikibugs-l [20:30:09] <Splarka> that jerk never gets anything done [20:30:15] <atglenn> :-D [20:30:21] <ialex> :D [20:30:46] <Splarka> cirwin: "If people in Britain want to buy a pet, they go to a pet shop. If they want to buy a pet shop, they go to a pet shop shop. If they want to buy a pet shop shop, then they're just being silly." [20:30:54] <ialex> "Accept bug (changes status to ASSIGNED)" is kind of confusing [20:31:10] <cirwin> Splarka: where do other sorts of people go to buy pet shops? [20:31:51] <Splarka> a pet /store/ [20:31:57] <Splarka> er pet store store [20:32:14] <cirwin> alright [20:32:40] <Splarka> but that is from Little Britain, so was pertaining to the British [20:32:55] <cirwin> heh, haven't watched that for so long [20:34:17] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Preserve color profile information for thumbs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19960 (10kaldari) [20:34:33] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Central database for interwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11423 +comment (10conrad.irwin) [20:34:37] <Mike_lifeguard> ialex: how so? [20:35:02] <Mike_lifeguard> btw, is anyone else having issues with MIME digests from wikimedia mailing lists? [20:35:04] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Documentation is out of date, incomplete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1 +tracking (10vasilvv) [20:35:23] *Mike_lifeguard suspects it is probably his Evolution setup that's the problem though :( [20:36:37] <ialex> Mike_lifeguard: I'd expect that it changes "Assigned-To" to me [20:36:54] <Mike_lifeguard> doesn't it? [20:37:24] <hansengel> hi [20:37:27] <hansengel> again :D [20:37:32] <hansengel> trying to figure out interlanguage links here.. [20:37:39] <hansengel> all I can find is this http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Langlinks_table [20:37:44] <eric__> hello [20:37:52] <hansengel> and I've already added a row in the table for two certain pages [20:38:13] <ialex> Mike_lifeguard: no [20:38:53] <eric__> im glad i found this place. would anyone know how to easily from php pull the txt of a page like MediaWiki Sidebar and change it and stuff it back into mediawiki? [20:38:54] <Mike_lifeguard> Well that's wrong, isn't it? :D [20:39:08] <cirwin> hansengel: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Help:Interwiki_linking may help you understand how they are supposed to work [20:39:30] <vvv> Is r53109 a valid fix of bug 2257? [20:39:33] <hansengel> ok [20:39:35] <hansengel> so [20:39:39] <hansengel> I added the row [20:39:46] <hansengel> then added in the bottom of the english page [20:40:00] <hansengel> [[langID:localizedTitle]] [20:40:07] <hansengel> replacing with what I used in the row, of course [20:40:14] <hansengel> but nothing happened.. [20:40:16] <Duesentrieb> eric__: not really easy afaik. i think the easiest way may be the api's local call facility [20:40:23] <Duesentrieb> never used it, though [20:40:35] <Duesentrieb> other than that, look at the Article class [20:40:51] <hansengel> do I need to add something to the Interwiki table also? [20:41:26] <ialex> !b 2257 [20:41:26] --mwbot-- https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2257 [20:42:44] <eric__> Dusentrieb: yea, i have been trying since about 12:30 (4 hours now)... i cant get the webdav hack working either, [20:42:50] <eric__> or i would just use webdav/subversion for this [20:43:55] <Splarka> eric__: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/SpamBlacklist/cleanup.php might give some clues (dunno) [20:44:00] <Duesentrieb> eric__: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Calling_internally and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Changing_wiki_content [20:44:04] <Splarka> it is a local reversion script (not really edit) [20:44:22] <eric__> Thanks guys, that sounds like stuff i haven'texplored yet. much appreciated [20:44:43] <eric__>  [20:44:43] <eric__> == SideBar Configuration == [20:44:43] <eric__> * [[MediaWiki:Sidebar|Navigation Sidebar]] [20:44:46] <eric__> oops [20:44:47] <eric__> sorry [20:44:53] <eric__> trying to cut and paste your links... [20:45:06] <Duesentrieb> eric__: also, in the maintenance dir, there's a sceipt called importTextFiles.php or some such. it creates pages. should be similar enough.... maybe. [20:45:23] <Duesentrieb> uh, can't you just click them? [20:45:27] <eric__> awesome. you guys are the best [20:45:45] <eric__> dusen: my client cuts off the parts after the : [20:46:05] <Duesentrieb> that sucks :) [20:49:24] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Order of title recognition and bold / italic rendering should be reversed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4598 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [20:49:26] <wikibugs> 14(DUP) two apostrophes make an interwiki link rendered as text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11707 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [20:49:28] <RoanKattouw> Splarka: Ah, a fellow Little Britain watches [20:49:30] <RoanKattouw> *watcher [20:49:54] *Splarka sits in a wheelchair... "I want that one" [20:50:45] <eric__> have a good day gentlemen. im gonna keep on working on this until i get it. thanks for your help [20:52:32] <RoanKattouw> Splarka: Less than a week ago, I was at the very spot in Paris where you see him say "I wanna go to Chessington" [20:53:35] *Splarka points feebly at an api bug, then when Roan's back is turned, writes a patch, gets commit access, commits it, scaps it, and gets back in his wheelchair [20:53:45] <Reedy> lmao [20:54:10] <Splarka> "Oh my, I guess brion must have fixed it while we were away, what a stroopwafel" [20:54:14] <largos> is it possible to have tabs in wiki titles? [20:54:32] <largos> (wiki page titles, that is) [20:56:26] <cirwin> largos: no, why would you want them? [20:57:01] *OverlordQ must find some stroopwafels somewhere [20:57:05] <OverlordQ> you guys talk about them enough [20:57:17] <letourdefrance> Hello. How do i get a list over all the pages in the wiki system? [20:57:24] <Reedy> Special:AllPages [20:57:26] <largos> cirwin: I don't -- I'm implementing title equality for a java tool that is processing wikipedia dumps, and the title.txt file in the mediawiki source doesn't seem to discuss tabs [20:58:12] <largos> cirwin: I just needed to know if I should collapse them into single spaces, single tabs, etc... [20:58:36] <cirwin> alright [20:58:39] <werdna> largos: valid title characters are:" %!\"$&'()*,\\-.\\/0-9:;=?@A-Z\\\\^_`a-z~\\x80-\\xFF+>" [20:58:47] <letourdefrance> anyone? [20:59:03] <cirwin> if you are testing user-input, remember to NFC it [20:59:04] <Reedy> letourdefrance, Special:AllPages [20:59:05] <OverlordQ> letourdefrance: Reedy answered you [[Special:AllPages]] [20:59:05] <werdna> letourdefrance: there's a special page, Special:AllPages [20:59:12] <Reedy> lol [20:59:24] <largos> cirwin: NFC? [20:59:32] <largos> werdna: thanks! [20:59:48] <cirwin> largos: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_normalization#Normal_forms [21:00:04] <letourdefrance> so i write : http://192.168.11.4/wiki/Special:AllPages ? [21:00:14] <Reedy> yup [21:00:18] <largos> cirwin: ah, ok [21:00:42] <letourdefrance> werdna: where do i write Special:AllPages ? [21:00:53] <werdna> in the search box [21:01:49] <letourdefrance> werdna: ahh okay...is there any wau i can sort of make a menu with links to all pages? [21:02:00] <letourdefrance> werdna:wau = way [21:02:12] <cirwin> letourdefrance: what's wrong with the Special:AllPages page? [21:02:39] <Splarka> if you have less than (some number, 345 I think?) you can {{Special:Allpages}} (only one namespace at a time) [21:02:51] <brion> largos: tab (0x09) would be normalized to a space, iirc [21:02:54] <Guest25133> Hello I have another problem moving a wiki family to a new server with Ubuntu. The database user for each subdomain needs to be given permission on commons [21:03:27] <letourdefrance> cirwin: well its not there at the index page...i would like to have it so that when the mainpage is loaded i see the contents of the main page, and then there are links to other pages on the site [21:03:31] <Guest25133> And it dosent appear in the users of commons, but when you try to create it is says that it does exist [21:04:22] <^demon> Off work for the day \o/ [21:04:32] <Guest25133> Thus the wikis give the cant connect to database error. [21:05:22] <letourdefrance> cirwin: is this even possible? [21:05:28] <cirwin> yes [21:05:43] <CIA-69> 03tparscal * r53966 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/js/jquery.wikiOutline.js: Fixed bug that prevented headings on consecutive lines from being detected properly (regexp was matching correctly but capturing too far preventing next match from seeing the trailing newline) [21:05:43] <cirwin> I think you can put {{Special:AllPages}} onto the main page [21:05:47] <cirwin> and it will do it for you [21:06:23] <Guest25133> Error: (Can't contact the database server: Access denied for user 'etno_zh_admin1'@'%' to database 'etnopedia_global' (localhost)) [21:06:26] <Splarka> brion: looks like a [[Foo bar]] just fails to make a valid link [21:06:41] <Guest25133> global is the commons for our wiki family [21:07:59] <letourdefrance> cirwin: cool [21:08:17] <letourdefrance> what is the symbol for comments? [21:08:26] <cirwin> <!-- --> [21:08:28] <cirwin> same as HTML [21:08:40] <brion> heh. then sux to be a tab-lover :) [21:09:22] <cirwin> it's not as though it's easy to type a tab into a web-page anyway [21:10:08] <largos> brion: thanks :) [21:10:21] <letourdefrance> cirwin: hmmm the {{Special:AllPages}} in the main_page is sort of cool, but of course the list disappers when i press a link for one of the other pages. So it does not actually work as a menu [21:10:44] <CIA-69> 03tparscal * r53967 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/js/jquery.wikiOutline.js: Fixed regression from r53966 that cause the detection of which section the cursor is inside of to be off by 1 character (the same character we left out of the capture) [21:10:46] <letourdefrance> cirwin: is there any way to get the page-links in the menu instead? [21:11:03] <cirwin> letourdefrance: not easily, but you can add them manually to [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] [21:11:42] <letourdefrance> cirwin: i see...where do i do that? [21:11:49] <cirwin> [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] [21:11:52] <cirwin> it's a page [21:12:01] <cirwin> you can get there by typing it into the search box [21:12:01] <letourdefrance> ohh [21:12:48] <letourdefrance> hmm searching for [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] did not return any matches [21:13:12] <cirwin> take off the brackets [21:13:21] <cirwin> they are there because that's the syntax used for making links to pages [21:13:49] <letourdefrance> ohh i see [21:14:03] <letourdefrance> hmm okay...i get the page but there is no edit button for that page [21:14:19] <cirwin> you have to be logged in as an administrator [21:14:27] <Splarka> and it probably says 'create' [21:14:39] <Splarka> which is lovely for semantics but asinine for helping people [21:15:17] <letourdefrance> cirwin: i am....but hmm there was a create button i pressed...and that seems to act as an edit button [21:15:37] <cirwin> ok [21:18:24] <letourdefrance> cirwin: hmm i entered [[MediaWiki:Test]] and pressed save...but no link to Test appeared to the left [21:18:57] <cirwin> I oversimplified when I said that was the syntax for links [21:19:01] <cirwin> on the side-bar page [21:19:22] <cirwin> you need to put """page name|link text""" (with no quote marks) [21:20:36] <letourdefrance> cirwin: hmmm putting: Test|This is a test also did not help [21:21:23] <cirwin> ok, try going to http://192.168.11.4/w/index.php?action=purge&title=MediaWiki:Sidebar [21:21:48] <letourdefrance> cirwin: The page cannot be found [21:22:03] <cirwin> where is your wiki installed? [21:22:12] <cirwin> you will have to change that link a little bit [21:22:27] <cirwin> maybe /wiki/ instead of /w/ ? [21:22:30] <letourdefrance> ahh yeah [21:22:34] <letourdefrance> true...sorry bout that [21:22:39] <cirwin> no worries [21:22:46] <letourdefrance> but now i get : No such action [21:22:53] <letourdefrance> in the wiki system [21:23:19] <cirwin> hmm, I don't know why that would be - sorry [21:24:15] <letourdefrance> http://192.168.11.4/wiki/index.php?action=p urge&title=MediaWiki:Sidebar [21:24:39] <cirwin> there is no space after the "p" [21:25:56] <letourdefrance> ahhh okay [21:26:19] <letourdefrance> but i had that page before....and it does not show a link for what i wrote [21:26:25] <letourdefrance> just : Test|This is a test [21:26:48] <Splarka> ** [21:27:09] <cirwin> letourdefrance: maybe you should copy the format from http://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar&action=edit [21:27:43] <cirwin> I forgot to tell you about the * at the start, but I thought you would notice them yourself [21:28:57] <letourdefrance> yipee now it works [21:29:07] <cirwin> glad to hear [21:33:19] <silly2> fixed thanks [21:34:18] <letourdefrance> cirwin: thank you so much. This is just what i wanted [21:34:39] <cirwin> no problem [21:35:02] <letourdefrance> cirwin: do you know if its possible to change skin? [21:35:13] <cirwin> yes, it is possible [21:35:26] <cirwin> there are not that many to choose from, unless you download one yourself [21:35:51] <letourdefrance> cirwin: does there existaha [21:36:00] <cirwin> if you go into [[Special:Preferences]] you can preview them under "Appearance" [21:36:04] <letourdefrance> cirwin: sorry....That is interessting [21:36:26] <CIA-69> 03daniel * r53968 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWordBuilder/src/main/java/de/brightbyte/wikiword/store/builder/DatabaseWikiWordStoreBuilder.java: auto-pick a key to use with resolveRedirects [21:36:40] <letourdefrance> hmm there is no Special:Preferences [21:37:02] <cirwin> click on "My preferences" in the top right [21:37:45] <letourdefrance> yes [21:38:03] <cirwin> then click on appearance [21:38:10] <cirwin> and then play with the "Preview" buttons [21:38:20] <cirwin> I think Monobook is the nicest though [21:39:01] <cirwin> you can also download some from the internet if you search on google, but they might be fiddly to install [21:39:14] <rainman-sr> Nikerabbit, what was that error again? :) [21:39:23] <letourdefrance> ahhh [21:39:28] <letourdefrance> yeah i got it [21:40:42] <^demon> Which would be more appropriate for the N/M/B markers on RecentChanges, <abbr> or <acronym>? [21:41:07] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Enhanced editing toolbar displacement - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19998 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (blurpeace) [21:41:52] <letourdefrance> cirwin: and finally... Do you know how to change the logo in the left corner? It says set $wgLogo to the URL path to your own logo. How do i set $wgLogo? [21:42:14] <cirwin> open up LocalSettings.php with a text editor [21:42:53] <cirwin> and add $wgLogo = "/new_logo.png"; (but you have to make the new logo and put it in your web directory first) [21:43:08] <cirwin> the semi-colon at the end of the line is very important [21:44:04] <letourdefrance> cirwin: okay. and i just put the logo anywhere in the webpath? [21:44:16] <cirwin> yes [21:44:29] <cirwin> you should make sure it is the right size first though [21:44:38] <letourdefrance> are there any demands for logo size? [21:44:39] <cirwin> otherwise it might look a bit funny [21:44:51] <letourdefrance> cirwin: what are the correct dimensions? [21:45:00] <cirwin> 135px * 135px [21:45:29] <CIA-69> 03catrope * r53969 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/OptIn/ (OptIn.js OptIn.php SpecialOptIn.php): OptIn: Finalize registration of browser, OS and screen resolution on opt-in time with AJAX, and fix a few bugs. [21:46:01] <jdpond> Could fix MS 2007 docs upload problem by adding types to mime.type(http://dpaste.org/O8je/). Fixes (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18684). Is there a non-manual way mime.types is being handled? [21:46:22] <Splarka> cirwin: 12em x 160px is the space, actually [21:46:30] <Splarka> 135 is just a suggested [21:46:55] <cirwin> I just used firebug on Wiktionary's logo [21:47:13] <letourdefrance> what is 12 em in pixels? [21:47:27] <Platonides> letourdefrance, depends on your font size [21:47:37] <flyingparchment> and dpi [21:48:03] <letourdefrance> i see [21:48:04] <Splarka> and tidal forces [21:48:30] <letourdefrance> hehehe im gonne use this logo and resize it to 135x135 :) http://www.library.drexel.edu/blogs/librarylog/scholar.jpg It shows a wise man :D Kinda o [21:48:38] <letourdefrance> Kinda good for a wiki page hehe [21:48:49] <cirwin> alright :D [21:50:53] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Ability to preview vector/re-rendered images in Special:Upload "warning" interstitial. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16437 +comment (10brion) [21:52:00] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Uploading office 2007 files (docx, pptx etc) results in error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18684 (10jack.pond) [21:54:19] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Ability to preview vector/re-rendered images in Special:Upload "warning" interstitial. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16437 +comment (10Platonides) [21:56:28] <letourdefrance> cirwin: i put the image in my wikifolder and called it wikilogo.jpg. Then i wrote in LocalSettings: $wgLogo = "/wikilogo.jpg"; but no image is shown [21:56:46] <cirwin> your wiki folder is called "wiki" [21:56:53] <cirwin> so you use /wiki/wikilogo.jpg [21:56:57] <letourdefrance> yeah [21:56:59] <letourdefrance> got it [21:57:04] <letourdefrance> thanks :) [21:59:58] <CIA-69> 03tparscal * r53970 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (9 files in 3 dirs): Changed how the toolbar and toc are added to the page, as well as the structure of the UI. Also fixed regression related to r53966 which caused the jump-to-section by clicking an outline item to be 1 character off. [22:04:42] <letourdefrance> cool this rocks...there is a latex interpreter as well in wiki [22:05:20] *^demon stabs people who put stuff in all skins that's identical [22:05:23] <cirwin> only for a subset, it's not worth it unless you do a lot of maths [22:05:27] <cirwin> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Enable_TeX [22:05:53] <cirwin> ^demon: yeah, CSS should be powerful enough that that is the only difference between skins :p [22:07:04] <letourdefrance> is it possible to link directly to an edit page-of a page? [22:07:36] <RoanKattouw> letourdefrance: [{{fullurl:Page name|action=edit}} link text] [22:08:11] <CIA-69> 03werdna * r53971 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (LqtFunctions.php pages/TalkpageView.php): Use actual talk page name instead of an ID, saves a query and looks wayyy better [22:10:20] <^demon> Question: For b/m/n markers on change pages, would it be better to make them <abbr> or <acronym>? [22:10:34] <letourdefrance> RoanKattouw: hmmm what am i then doing wrong here? ** MediaWiki:Sidebar|action=edit|Edit the sidebar [22:10:54] <RoanKattouw> letourdefrance: *that* doesn't work [22:11:03] <RoanKattouw> Or wait maybe it will [22:11:06] <letourdefrance> RoanKattouw: how then can i do it? [22:11:08] <RoanKattouw> Use the {{fullurl:}} thing [22:11:20] <letourdefrance> RoanKattouw: can you show me a full example? [22:11:22] <cirwin> ^demon: http://www.w3schools.com/tags/html5_acronym.asp [22:11:23] <RoanKattouw> ** {{fullurl:MediaWiki;Sidebar|action=edit}}|Edit the sidebar [22:11:27] <CIA-69> 03yaron * r53972 10/trunk/extensions/Maps/OpenLayers/OpenLayers/lib/: Removing entire /lib directory for OpenLayers - not necessary for mapping [22:11:29] <RoanKattouw> letourdefrance: Example ---^^ [22:11:38] <Splarka> : [22:11:39] *^demon jumps around and throws stuff [22:11:40] <RoanKattouw> letourdefrance: But non-admins can't edit the sidebar anyway [22:12:06] <^demon> cirwin: Clearly <abbr> is right :) [22:12:08] <letourdefrance> RoanKattouw: that is okay...only one user uses this system and he is admin, and that is me :) [22:12:31] <cirwin> ^demon: it is self-describing, which is always a nice attribute tot have [22:12:34] <cirwin> s/tot/to [22:13:39] <wikibugs> 04(REOPENED) Add personal Common.css & Common.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10183 +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs) [22:13:45] <letourdefrance> yeah....this roxx: ** {{fullurl:MediaWiki:Sidebar|action=edit}}|Redig�r menu [22:14:36] <letourdefrance> thanks for all your help guys [22:14:41] <letourdefrance> im gonna go to bed now [22:15:05] <CIA-69> 03werdna * r53973 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/pages/ThreadPermalinkView.php: Display thread subject instead of weird title as page title on thread permalink pages [22:15:07] <cirwin> sleep well [22:15:44] <CIA-69> 03tparscal * r53974 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/ (EditToolbar.css EditToolbar.js): Improved the consistency of lines in the UI for the toolbar. [22:16:07] <CIA-69> 03demon * r53975 10/trunk/phase3/ (12 files in 9 dirs): * (bug 16311) Make recent change flags acronyms instead of spans. Also move this crap to common, we don't need identical declarations in 5 different skins. [22:17:29] <CIA-69> 03yaron * r53976 10/trunk/extensions/Maps/ (19 files in 5 dirs): New version: 0.2 [22:17:33] <wikibugs> 03(mod) IE7 truncates printed output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8204 +comment (10Platonides) [22:17:48] <wikibugs> 03(mod) This page doesn't print correctly with IE7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16890 +comment (10Platonides) [22:17:58] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Make recent change flags abbreviations instead of spans - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16311 summary; +comment (10innocentkiller) [22:18:01] <CIA-69> 03mkroetzsch * r53977 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_DV_URI.php: nicer display for emails (Bug 18321) [22:20:06] <CIA-69> 03werdna * r53979 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/pages/ThreadPermalinkView.php: Turns out there was some madness in showThread() that needed working around. [22:21:05] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Small sort icons in the table heading doesn't appear - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17916 (10markus) [22:21:14] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Rendering of Type:Email - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18321 (10markus) [22:21:21] <Splarka> damn, what was I gonna file a bug about yesterday [22:21:26] *Splarka tries to remember [22:21:44] <CIA-69> 03nad * r53980 10/trunk/extensions/RecordAdmin/ (RecordAdmin.i18n.php RecordAdmin.php): Add 'edit with form' action link for records [22:22:27] <CIA-69> 03werdna * r53981 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/LqtFunctions.php: Extra safeguard against fatals in dumping process [22:23:07] <CIA-69> 03tparscal * r53982 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/EditToolbar.js: Fixed bug that caused icons to naviagte to another page when clicked. Solved this by adding a preventDefault call to the event. [22:30:09] <CIA-69> 03daniel * r53983 10/trunk/WikiWord/ (4 files in 3 dirs): management console [22:32:45] <wikibugs> 03(mod) 1.12 (and up) upload fails on Windows Server - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14213 +comment (10mlarson) [22:36:17] <Ringtailed-Fox> hiya. how do i set up my wiki so it requires people to log-in or sign up for an account before they can register? [22:36:35] <RoanKattouw> Ringtailed-Fox: You mean before they can edit? [22:37:14] <Ringtailed-Fox> yes [22:37:24] <Ringtailed-Fox> sort of like how English Wikipedia and EncyclopediaDramatica are [22:37:59] <Splarka> wat [22:38:21] <RoanKattouw> Ringtailed-Fox: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_anonymous_editing [22:38:50] <Ringtailed-Fox> i'd also like to know how to get a "page of the day" thing going... i don't have any bots or scripts [22:38:51] <Splarka> en.wp only restricts non-talk page creation for anons, not editing [22:38:55] <RoanKattouw> Ringtailed-Fox: Also, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_page_creation [22:38:59] <^demon> Simetrical: Ping [22:39:01] <RoanKattouw> Ringtailed-Fox: Don't need that [22:39:05] <Simetrical> ^demon, pong [22:39:26] <RoanKattouw> Just put {{Page of the day/{{CURRENTMONTH}} {{CURRENTDAY}}}} on the main page somewhere [22:39:37] <RoanKattouw> And that'll try to include [[Template:Page of the day/July 30]] [22:39:46] <RoanKattouw> Oh wait it's still July 29 in the US :P [22:39:48] <^demon> Simetrical: [[Talk:Main_Page#HTML5_Adjustments]] - on enwiki. Question about how widely tested this is. [22:40:38] <Simetrical> ^demon, I tested the changes somewhat briefly and approximately, but in several different browsers (including IE6). I thought I said something in the request about not having tested very thoroughly, didn't I? [22:40:51] <Ringtailed-Fox> nice [22:41:31] <^demon> Simetrical: You might've, but I doubt the previous thread was read completely. I tested in IE8, FF3 and Chrome2, but that's it. [22:41:47] <Simetrical> ^demon, the worst that will happen is a few pixels padding different. [22:41:57] <^demon> Exactly. [22:42:37] <^demon> Just checked Safari on OSX, looks fine. [22:46:01] <wikibugs> 03(mod) skin setting changing to 'simple' after saving unrelated settings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6274 (106e6f4hs02) [22:46:05] <Simetrical> Wow, I keep forgetting how retarded and obnoxious edit conflicts are. [22:46:14] *Simetrical whips werdna to work faster on LiquidThreads [22:46:23] <werdna> Simetrical: I did search today [22:46:29] <werdna> http://wiki.werdn.us/test/view/Talk:Main_Page [22:46:45] <^demon> Simetrical: If you're looking for more cellpadding/cellspacing to kill, I put in bug 19942 for TablePager cleanup. [22:46:55] <Simetrical> I saw that. [22:47:06] <werdna> The results still look stupid [22:47:09] <werdna> but I can fix that up [22:47:10] <Simetrical> (that's a correct response to both werdna and ^demon) [22:48:31] <werdna> Simetrical: I'm distracted by thinkgeek right now :)( [22:48:32] <werdna> :)* [22:48:52] <^demon> I haven't been to thinkgeek in awhile [22:49:01] <werdna> neither had I [22:49:03] <Splarka> Simetrical, this made me think of you: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/4119563/images/1238314087004.jpg [22:49:10] <Splarka> oop, server might be down [22:49:13] <werdna> but somebody linked me to http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/popculture/a9f6/ [22:49:24] <werdna> also, this is *awesome* and I want one [22:49:25] <werdna> http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/bfa3/ [22:49:32] <werdna> # Small monitor runs completely off of USB, giving you an extra mini display whenever and wherever you need it. [22:49:57] <werdna> It's a 7" 800x480 monitor that you stick on the USB port [22:50:32] <^demon> That's cool. [22:50:34] <^demon> And useful. [22:50:55] <werdna> Also, Epoch alarm clocks :P [22:51:02] <cherez> When importing I get the error "Import failed: Loss of session data. Please try again." What does that mean? [22:53:13] <Splarka> (rehosted: http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2671/1238314087004.jpg ) [22:56:45] <Splarka> oh, right srsearch [22:56:51] <Splarka> er, srprop [22:56:53] *Splarka files [22:59:17] *Coren needs a SecureVote expert [22:59:20] <Splarka> damn, 19998? haha, someone file 19999 so I can get 20000 [22:59:36] <Splarka> and daaaaaaaamn, 20 thousand bugs [22:59:36] <Coren> "Hi", BTW. :-) o/ [23:00:17] <Simetrical> Didn't some project like Debian just hit like a million bugs? [23:00:31] <Simetrical> "Debian has more bugs than any competing operating system!" [23:00:58] <CIA-69> 03tparscal * r53984 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Improved UI responsiveness and previeved performance by calling things asynchronously when possible. [23:02:04] <werdna> more bug reports [23:02:05] <CIA-69> 03tparscal * r53985 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/js/ (jquery.combined.js jquery.combined.min.js): Updated combined script files. [23:02:11] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Add srprop parameter to API list=search (damn, lot of nines) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19999 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: API; (herd) [23:02:39] <^demon> Is bug 1310 fixed? Comment #5 (granted from 2 years ago) seems to think it is. [23:03:35] <Splarka> someone file a bug: "Mediawiki has too many bugs" [23:04:36] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Documentation is out of date, incomplete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20000 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Documentation; (innocentkiller) [23:04:47] <Splarka> dupe #1 [23:04:54] <atglenn> really, it is? :-P [23:05:05] <cirwin> heh :D [23:05:08] <enomil> hehe [23:05:21] <wikibugs> 14(DUP) Documentation is out of date, incomplete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20000 +comment (10innocentkiller) [23:05:24] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Documentation is out of date, incomplete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1 +comment (10innocentkiller) [23:06:22] <^demon> Unless 20000 is WONTFIX? [23:06:26] *werdna stabs ^demon [23:06:30] <cirwin> is there a CANTFIX? [23:06:49] <Splarka> bbl [23:07:04] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Documentation is out of date, incomplete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20000 +comment (10agarrett) [23:07:15] <wikibugs> 14(WFM) Install EasyTimeline on strategy.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19987 +comment (10pbeaudette) [23:07:21] <^demon> Ose: No, but the issue has come up before :) [23:07:33] <cirwin> why is the strategy wiki not on meta? [23:08:08] <^demon> So we can have yet another watchlist to keep an eye on :) [23:08:14] <cirwin> oh, cool [23:08:17] <cirwin> I love watchlists [23:08:25] <^demon> Especially having like 30 of them. [23:08:35] <cirwin> well, just having one would be so last year [23:08:46] <cirwin> and so the logical conclusion is that two is better than one [23:09:01] <cirwin> and if you take the divide and conquer approach, two would be better than each of those ones [23:09:32] <^demon> Of course. I mean, why have 30 watchlists when you can have 31? It just makes sense to have more. [23:09:58] <cirwin> umm, because if you have 31 then you need a scroll bar on your tablist? [23:10:15] <^demon> werdna: I handle code migrations for a financial services company. What the hell else am I supposed to do with my time? [23:10:44] <^demon> :) [23:15:02] <vvv> Time, the easiest thing to waste (yes, it's even easier than wasting memory) [23:25:52] <AaronSchulz> brion: hey [23:26:19] <^demon> Nikerabbit: You asked Tim about makeMessagesDb.php earlier today. What were you going to do with that? [23:26:55] <brion> yo yo [23:27:06] <brion> AaronSchulz: excellent i was about to track ya down :D [23:27:26] *AaronSchulz isn't sure he likes the sound of that :) [23:27:28] <brion> what's your time look like in the next couple weeks? [23:27:45] <brion> i want us to go ahead and get some of those flaggedrevs trials moving :D [23:27:46] <AaronSchulz> same, no more no less [23:27:54] <brion> so that'll prolly mean feedback and fixes [23:28:16] <Alphos> what should be the format of the "basetimestamp" sent when editing through the API ? [23:28:51] <Alphos> unix timestamp as with php time() or the timestamp as received in xml attributes for each revision ? [23:28:53] <brion> Alphos: i believe the api always wants ISO 8601 format [23:28:59] <Alphos> ok :) [23:29:06] <Alphos> didn't know it was an iso ^^' [23:30:04] <cirwin> Alphos: you can just send it back the timestamp on the revision [23:30:23] <Alphos> cirwin you mean the one in the xml ? [23:30:35] <cirwin> fwiw http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601 just gave me a database query syntax error [23:30:51] <brion> heh [23:31:01] <cirwin> Alphos: well, when you get the revision info to edit you can get the timestamp too [23:31:08] <Alphos> yep [23:31:14] <cirwin> don't even modify it :D [23:31:19] <cirwin> just send it back as a string [23:31:48] <brion> why do i have the "beverly hills cop" theme music stuck in my head? [23:32:45] <cirwin> dunno [23:32:47] <Alphos> that's a problem between you and your conscience, brion :/ [23:32:51] <cirwin> but I meant to thank you for the commit access [23:35:51] <CIA-69> 03dale * r53986 10/trunk/extensions/WikiAtHome/ (7 files): basic job entry and retrieval [23:36:19] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Enhanced Toolbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20001 normal; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (pbeaudette) [23:41:30] <CIA-69> 03demon * r53987 10/trunk/phase3/includes/db/ (7 files): [23:41:30] <CIA-69> * Move generic return true; various for lock functions to parent, no need to implement this everywhere [23:41:30] <CIA-69> * Make LOW PRIORITY optional [23:41:30] <CIA-69> * Use sourceFile instead of dbsource [23:42:32] <CIA-69> 03dale * r53988 10/trunk/extensions/WikiAtHome/ (ApiWikiAtHome.php WahJobManager.php WikiAtHome.sql): job_description removal [23:46:39] <CIA-69> 03demon * r53989 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (apache-ampersand.diff namespace2sql.php): Remove 2 ancient files that aren't used anywhere and were abandoned shortly after commit. [23:51:56] <p858snake|sleep> brion: hasn't https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17765 been done? and would we need to poke a admin on meta to get https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12229 done? [23:52:15] <wikibugs> 03(mod) No message shown anymore (blank) after flagging [if JavaScript is disabled] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19981 (10JSchulz_4587) [23:57:40] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Remove "closed-zh-tw" and "nan" from Special:SiteMatrix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12229 (10p858snake)