[00:02:03] <Reedy>	Simetrical, that gives the same as the original query.. Though, i suspect its in the right direction
[00:02:22] <Simetrical>	Reedy, it's not the same as the original query.
[00:02:53] <Reedy>	I know, but it gives the same result set
[00:03:08] <Simetrical>	Maybe you didn't state your desired result clearly enough.
[00:03:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Encapsulate wgCanonicalNamespaceNames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9982  (10chinchi29)
[00:03:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Code quality issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=700  (10chinchi29)
[00:03:26] <Reedy>	Hmm
[00:04:19] <Reedy>	Ok, for all the rows in the site table, where it hasnt got a cocount, i want 0/null (as this query is being used in a subquery)
[00:05:52] <Reedy>	http://pastebin.com/d53c1a5c1 is the required result (using a shit union duplicating the query)
[00:05:53] <svip>	Simetrical: How often does Wikipedia update their code trunk?
[00:06:12] <Simetrical>	svip, it varies.  It's been about a month and half since the last time.
[00:06:17] <svip>	Simetrical: Will it also be added to WatchList?
[00:06:27] <Simetrical>	Sometimes it's weekly, more often lately it's been like once every couple of months.
[00:06:40] <Simetrical>	The ChangesList change (adding the tooltips) will naturally apply to the watchlist too.
[00:06:41] <Reedy>	so i can use it to get http://pastebin.com/d688c9713, rather than http://pastebin.com/d4269f319
[00:06:54] <svip>	Simetrical: But the legend?
[00:07:11] <Simetrical>	svip, seems not.
[00:07:19] <svip>	Hm hm.
[00:07:23] <svip>	Well, that be a problem.
[00:07:24] <svip>	I can fix it.
[00:07:30] <svip>	I'll even give you diff
[00:11:56] <svip>	Simetrical: http://pastebin.ca/1516169
[00:12:16] *Simetrical 	brbs
[00:12:19] <CIA-52>	03shinjiman * r54247 10/trunk/phase3/ (103 files in 2 dirs): 
[00:12:19] <CIA-52>	Added back 'right-editusercssjs' message for backward compatibility, for r54194.
[00:12:19] <CIA-52>	Updated messages 'right-editusercss' and 'right-edituserjs' for other languages, per Code Review on r54153.
[00:16:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Names given to system messages do not follow a single format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12131  normal->high (10chinchi29)
[00:17:04] <Reedy>	Simetrical, the left join should be what i want (from googling and looking at examples). Thanks... Have to try and work out why its not giving me the results i want
[00:21:18] <CIA-52>	03simetrical * r54248 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialWatchlist.php: 
[00:21:18] <CIA-52>	Add legend to watchlist as well
[00:21:18] <CIA-52>	Patch by svip. Follow-up to r54242.
[00:23:47] <svip>	Simetrical: Now onward to the next challenge.
[00:23:53] <svip>	Paging for for Recentchanges.
[00:28:20] <Simetrical>	You're going to want to look into IndexPager for that.
[00:28:38] <Neurotiquette>	hey... when using special:import or export...
[00:28:51] <Neurotiquette>	How do I export the TEMPLATES for cite on an article, but not the articles themselves?
[00:29:15] <Neurotiquette>	I'm trying to grab the pretty cite web, etc. templates from the en.wikipedia fish oil page.
[00:29:30] <Reedy>	AHA!
[00:29:44] <Reedy>	Simetrical, SELECT site.siteid, COUNT(articleid) AS cocount FROM site LEFT JOIN articles ON (articles.siteid = site.siteid AND checkedout >= DATE_SUB(NOW(), INTERVAL 3 HOUR)) GROUP BY site.siteid ORDER BY site.siteid DESC;
[00:29:48] <Reedy>	Does what i wanted :)
[00:30:00] <Reedy>	Thanks
[00:32:50] <svip>	Simetrical: Except, IndexPager uses article names for paging.  RecentChanges is gonna use dates for paging.
[00:32:54] *svip 	puts on sunglasses.
[00:33:01] <Simetrical>	svip, IndexName uses anything for paging.
[00:33:08] <Simetrical>	And you should use rcid for paging here, probably, since it's unique.
[00:33:11] <Simetrical>	Er.
[00:33:14] <Simetrical>	IndexPager uses anything for paging.
[00:33:18] <svip>	Are you drunk?
[00:33:34] <svip>	Hm.  You don't do a mean drunk.
[00:33:47] <svip>	Anyway, I dunno.  I realise that date may not be unique as well.
[00:34:04] <svip>	But would the overlap really kill people?
[00:34:16] <svip>	I mean, it's not like you can keep on Wikipedia anyway?
[00:34:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) mainpagetext message uses deprecated markup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19858  normal->high;  +easy (10chinchi29)
[00:35:13] <^demon>	svip: It's really easy to have duplicate timestamps on places like wikipedia. Bad way to page :-\
[00:35:37] <Simetrical>	Using any non-duplicate key is a bad way to page.
[00:35:38] <svip>	Everyone is against my creative thinking.
[00:35:41] <Simetrical>	It risks failing in some cases.
[00:35:56] <svip>	Simetrical: What
[00:36:01] <svip>	Don't you mean the other way around?
[00:36:03] <Neurotiquette>	Creativity is a liability with a beast like the pedia
[00:36:05] <Simetrical>	. . .
[00:36:05] <Neurotiquette>	hehehehe
[00:36:07] <Simetrical>	Yes.
[00:36:10] <Simetrical>	I'm clearly not very awake tonight.
[00:36:12] <^demon>	Rc_id is pretty sane here for paging.
[00:36:12] <CIA-52>	03shinjiman * r54249 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (5 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Literary Chinese
[00:36:29] <MrZ-man>	and if you want to rewrite something else to use Pager, whatlinkshere has been partially broken since pretty much forever
[00:36:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) mainpagetext message uses deprecated markup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19858  high->normal; +comment (10innocentkiller)
[00:36:52] <^demon>	MrZ-man: ++
[00:37:11] <svip>	Can I request a "whatdoesntlinkherebutshould" page?
[00:37:29] <svip>	Or "whatlinksherebutprobablyshouldnt"?
[00:37:31] <MrZ-man>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9487
[00:39:02] <svip>	MrZ-man: That's a silly bug.
[00:39:17] <^demon>	Simetrical: What does HTML5 say we should use instead of <big>?
[00:39:27] <cirwin>	<reallybig>
[00:39:38] <svip>	Seriously, ticket systems like this needs a level called "this bug has been here too long, someone better fix it NOW"
[00:39:45] <svip>	Simetrical: CSS.
[00:39:54] <Simetrical>	^demon, you would normally use something like <h1>, <em>, or <strong>, depending on why you want it to be big.
[00:39:58] <svip>	<span style="font-size: big;"> </span>
[00:40:02] <Simetrical>	Same as any other presentational element.
[00:40:07] <^demon>	Hm.
[00:40:10] <MrZ-man>	everything works except the "previous" links. The "previous" links work once, then break
[00:40:19] *Simetrical 	realizes he didn't set his watch for the dryer, and therefore has no idea when he should go down to get his clothes.  Drat.
[00:40:31] <svip>	Simetrical: Code naked instead.
[00:44:54] <Neurotiquette>	ok
[00:54:29] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Math.php problem -- > Failed to parse (PNG conversion failed; check for correct installation of latex, dvips, gs, and convert) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4705  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[00:56:13] <svip>	Simetrical: Just so I know, if I *ever* get a commit account or whatever, will it be a problem if my prefered name there is not my Wiki account?
[00:56:24] <Simetrical>	svip, nobody cares if you even have a wiki account.
[00:56:29] <svip>	Woo!
[00:56:31] <Simetrical>	svip, have you requested commit access?
[00:56:35] <svip>	I have not.
[00:56:41] <Simetrical>	k.
[00:56:46] <svip>	And I am not going to until I feel it is necessary.
[00:57:01] <svip>	I am the kind of guy who prepares himself.
[00:57:03] <svip>	Unless I do not.
[00:58:11] <svip>	Simetrical: If this work continues, you know, I might request it.
[00:58:18] <svip>	But right now, I am requesting to go to bed.
[00:58:29] *Simetrical 	grants permission for svip to go to bed
[00:59:17] *^demon 	!votes no. Not enough time logged in #mediawiki today.
[01:00:01] <svip>	Well, I defying the vote and going to bed.
[01:00:11] *GreenReaper 	invokes WP:!VOTE and sends svip to bed.
[01:00:22] <GreenReaper>	There, we have consensus!
[01:00:29] <cirwin>	no we don't
[01:00:47] *GreenReaper 	edits cirwin's and ^demon's statements so that we do.
[01:01:06] <|sock3>	blahalblababahlah and your face
[01:01:19] <svip>	This channel is turning into #wikipedia
[01:01:22] <svip>	O_O Hot damn
[01:01:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Patch for OggHandler to output <video> tag directly (for use with js2 script system) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18869   +patch; +comment (10innocentkiller)
[01:01:51] <svip>	Well, #wikipedia-stereotype rather.
[01:01:59] <CIA-52>	03yaron * r54250 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMaps/OpenLayers/SM_OpenLayers.php: Part of refactoring effort
[01:02:00] <svip>	Thinking of it.
[01:02:05] <svip>	Why doesn't that channel exist?
[01:02:41] <svip>	IRC CHANNELS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY
[01:02:43] <svip>	Good night!
[01:03:11] <CIA-52>	03jeroendedauw * r54251 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMaps/OpenLayers/SM_OpenLayers.php: test
[01:03:28] <TheOracle23>	can $wgSharedDB be an array()?
[01:07:20] *Simetrical 	conjectures that his laundry is done, and vanishes for the night
[01:07:48] <^demon>	TheOracle23: Not afaik
[01:08:00] <TheOracle23>	afaik?
[01:08:18] <^demon>	As far as I know.
[01:08:39] <TheOracle23>	well, let me explain my case here
[01:08:49] <TheOracle23>	I have two wikis, and a third is on the way
[01:09:26] <TheOracle23>	if wiki #1 is wikimetr_bpwiki and #2 is wikimetr_cbwwiki, and the two both have $wgSharedDB set to each other in LocalSettings.php
[01:09:32] <TheOracle23>	How would a third enter?
[01:10:52] <^demon>	Hmm. I really don't know much about $wgSharedDB.
[01:11:48] <TheOracle23>	Can anyone else help then please?
[01:12:24] <GreenReaper>	I think you have a mistaken idea of what it's meant to do.
[01:12:34] <GreenReaper>	The idea is that you set it to *one* database, and every site uses that setting.
[01:12:48] <GreenReaper>	(except for the site for which it is the main database, if any)
[01:13:07] <GreenReaper>	So, for example, wikifur.com has pool.wikifur.com which might be the shared DB for es.wikifur.com and ru.wikifur.com
[01:13:20] <CIA-52>	03shinjiman * r54252 10/trunk/tools/planet/zh/config.ini: 
[01:13:20] <CIA-52>	update zh planet
[01:13:20] <CIA-52>	+Winertai
[01:13:20] <GreenReaper>	So you might set the $wgSharedDB for es and ru to = pool
[01:13:37] <GreenReaper>	But you would not set it to anything for pool as that is already its database.
[01:13:45] <GreenReaper>	you get the idea?
[01:13:48] <TheOracle23>	yes
[01:14:10] <TheOracle23>	so how about the third wiki is the pool, then I just set the first two to it?
[01:14:16] <GreenReaper>	Yes.
[01:14:19] <TheOracle23>	ok.
[01:14:28] <GreenReaper>	assuming that is the one that you want to be the authoritative database for those tables.
[01:14:57] <TheOracle23>	and I don't have to re-arrange my tables? or what?
[01:16:18] <TheOracle23>	because I'm not sure how wikimetr_cbwwiki would communicate its users through wikimetr_pool to wikimetr_bpwiki
[01:19:14] <^demon>	Any German speakers?
[01:20:16] <ekimmargni>	For mediawiki.org sysops, when you nuke spam, please feel free to let us know what users/ips/domains are involved in #wikimedia-external-links -- even if nobody can look at it immediately, it is helpful for tracking. Often spam isn't isolated to mediawiki.org
[01:20:40] <TheOracle23>	GreenReaper?
[01:23:20] <GreenReaper>	Sorry, I was trying to deal with a situation.
[01:23:48] <GreenReaper>	TheOracle23: There is *one* user table. cbwwiki will have the same users as pool and as bpwiki
[01:23:55] <GreenReaper>	if you share the table.
[01:24:19] <TheOracle23>	so I just change $wgSharedDB in cbwwiki and bpwiki, no database changes required?
[01:24:32] <^demon>	Somebody should write a bot to go through all the links on all of the subpages of [[Sites using MediaWiki]] and remove the dead ones.
[01:24:33] <GreenReaper>	Well, depends on if those wikis already have users
[01:24:41] <TheOracle23>	they do
[01:24:42] <^demon>	A quick sample of like 5 of them show a lot dead.
[01:24:47] <GreenReaper>	Then you have a tricky situation. :-)
[01:24:54] <TheOracle23>	D:
[01:24:57] <TheOracle23>	ohnoes
[01:25:28] <GreenReaper>	I am not really sure what to suggest there. I have similar problems. Right now we're using centralauth. If there's only a few users you might be able to just merge the two tables manually and fixup any problem.s
[01:27:40] <TheOracle23>	well, CBW has 60 users, BP has 53 (according to {{NUMBEROFUSERS}} on both wikis)
[01:29:16] <TheOracle23>	maybe I can instead point CBW and POOL to BP?
[01:29:21] <TheOracle23>	would that be easier?
[01:36:53] <ekimmargni>	^demon: there is a pywikipediabot script for that
[01:38:35] <^demon>	ekimmargni: I don't have time to devote to that. It was more a "it would be nice if somebody did :)"
[01:38:46] <ekimmargni>	I know
[01:39:03] <ekimmargni>	that was more "I don't have time to devote to that, but here's how someone else could do it" :D
[01:39:19] <^demon>	Haha
[01:41:46] <Neurotiquette>	Hi
[01:42:00] <Neurotiquette>	I'm really confused. I used special:import to pull in a template that I want to use for my citations
[01:42:11] <Neurotiquette>	But it still says the page doesn't exist, but if i click the link it shows up fine?
[01:42:23] <Neurotiquette>	someone mind taking a peak? it's probably something obvious I just don thave the experience to recognize
[01:42:24] <Neurotiquette>	http://www.perciavalle.com/index.php?title=Aging_and_Longevity
[01:44:30] <Neurotiquette>	I used special:export on wikipedia to export Template:Cite_Journal
[01:44:35] <ekimmargni>	worksforme
[01:44:57] <^demon|dinner>	Same.
[01:45:08] <^demon|dinner>	Oh wait, I'm away having dinner.
[01:45:10] *^demon|dinner 	runs off
[01:45:22] <ekimmargni>	also, your logo it ugly XD
[01:45:25] <Neurotiquette>	ekimmargni: The bottom of the page is showing proper citations??
[01:45:26] <ekimmargni>	+spelling
[01:45:38] <ekimmargni>	Yes, it is
[01:45:39] <Neurotiquette>	For me it says
[01:45:40] <Neurotiquette>	"   1. ? Template:Cite journal"
[01:45:52] <ekimmargni>	append &action=purge to the url
[01:46:04] <Neurotiquette>	whats that do?
[01:46:28] <Neurotiquette>	Oh. son of a gun. Server-side cache?
[01:48:04] <Neurotiquette>	Found the page describing purge hehe... Thanks
[02:08:02] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Inaccessible page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20046 minor; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (vssun9)
[02:12:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create aliases for കവാടം & കവാടത്തിന്റെ സംവാദം namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20028  (10vssun9)
[02:15:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Inaccessible page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20046  +comment (10mike.lifeguard)
[02:15:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Inaccessible page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20046   +shell; +comment (10mike.lifeguard)
[02:33:48] <brion>	^demon: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/54225#c3352
[02:33:50] <brion>	updaters are broken badly
[02:36:40] <^demon>	I'll poke.
[02:36:57] <charitwo>	and bugs are climbing instead of falling, more bad news :(
[02:37:11] <^demon>	charitwo: They've been falling the past week or 2.
[02:37:23] <charitwo>	last couple days its gone up slightly !
[02:38:39] <^demon>	brion: I can just restore the various .inc files for now. It's icky but it's an ok workaround in the meantime I guess. Eventually update.php/updaters.inc need rewriting too.
[02:39:33] <^demon>	Which is why I wrote the spawnChild() method so we can easily kick off other scripts and not rely on these .inc files with global functions.
[02:44:33] <CIA-52>	03demon * r54253 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (populateLogSearch.inc populateParentId.inc): Re-add some files that are still used by updaters.inc.
[02:44:41] <brion>	^demon: if it's not ready to work, please revert it all
[02:45:01] <brion>	this is why small refactorings are usually better than giant branch merges :)
[02:45:15] <^demon>	Well it works, I just haven't ported 100% of the scripts yet.
[02:46:12] <brion>	well, updater not working kinda looked like not working to me ;)
[02:46:26] <^demon>	Should work now ;-)
[02:47:09] <brion>	where's populateCategory.inc?
[02:47:26] <brion>	ah there it is, still there i guess
[02:47:34] <^demon>	Yeah
[02:48:23] <brion>	ok so far so good. tests are running...
[02:49:44] <ekimmargni>	Anyone know why Gadgets is appending ?230 to the js urls?
[02:50:01] <^demon>	ekimmargni: It appends $wgStyleVersion.
[02:50:18] <^demon>	It shouldn't though.
[02:50:35] <ekimmargni>	Why was that done? (and done in a broken way too)
[02:50:55] <^demon>	Something in OutputPage forces it on.
[02:51:55] <ekimmargni>	Wait, it shouldn't append anything at all? Or it should append $wgStyleVersion properly?
[02:52:00] <brion>	Running test Magic Word: {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}... Fatal error: Class 'InitStats' not found in /home/parsertests/phase3/includes/SiteStats.php on line 328
[02:52:00] <brion>	 in 54225
[02:52:35] <brion>	cleared up in r54232
[02:52:36] <^demon>	brion: Grab head, OverlordQ and I powered through a lot of issues earlier.
[02:52:48] <brion>	^demon: watch the test results come in :) http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACode%2FMediaWiki%2Fpath&path=%2Ftrunk%2Fphase3
[02:53:05] <^demon>	I saw earlier \o/
[02:53:20] <ekimmargni>	could that column header link to something that explains what it is?
[02:56:51] <brion>	i'll poke back later folks, dinner... thx for the quick fix ^demon  :D
[02:59:51] <charitwo>	hey Tim
[03:01:22] <TimStarling>	hello
[03:06:29] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Wrong parameter in gadgets loading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19852  +comment (10mike.lifeguard)
[03:11:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wrong formlink when viewing an empty page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329  (10yaron57)
[03:43:20] <Schroeder>	gopher://charliebrown.outwardhosting.com/0/Book%20Reviews/Nice,%20David%20-%20Prokofiev:%20From%20Russia%20to%20the%20West%201891-1935
[04:33:04] <CIA-52>	03demon * r54254 10/trunk/phase3/ (install-utils.inc maintenance/FiveUpgrade.inc): Last update to call $dbw->sourceFile() directly. Throw wfDeprecated() in dbsource() since nothing in core or extensions calls this.
[04:35:56] <^demon>	TimStarling: I was playing with your new-installer branch. It's really nice (so far).
[05:23:40] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Allow an option to provide the same or different protection to the talk page when protecting a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20047 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page protection; (charitwo)
[06:36:51] <CIA-52>	03dale * r54255 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/ (OggHandler.i18n.php OggHandler.php OggHandler_body.php): 
[06:36:51] <CIA-52>	* added flag $wgJs2VideoTagOut flag for use with js2 system ( $wgEnableJS2system )
[06:36:51] <CIA-52>	** in video tag out mode, ogg handler outputs the video tag.
[06:36:51] <CIA-52>	* added ( $wgEnableTemporalOggUrls ) for passing temporal url flag to mv_embed
[06:36:51] <CIA-52>	** this enables mv_embed to optionally take advantage of oggz-chop server side for seeking with player that don't seek well and or don't cache well.
[06:36:56] <CIA-52>	* moved $wgOgg[Video|Audio]Types to global for easy access from other extensions
[06:36:58] <CIA-52>	* added msg for disabled javascript users with <video> tag output.
[07:02:20] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Patch for OggHandler to output <video> tag directly (for use with js2 script system) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18869  +comment (10dale)
[07:10:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Dutch month names empty on SMW displays - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17882  (10rowan)
[08:02:24] <CIA-52>	03dale * r54256 10/trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (5 files in 5 dirs): 
[08:02:24] <CIA-52>	* missing api_url removes tab from add-media-wizard
[08:02:24] <CIA-52>	* support crop output to html
[08:02:24] <CIA-52>	* language updates
[08:02:24] <CIA-52>	* multiple use of add-media css clean up
[08:33:57] <Nikerabbit>	ugga
[08:36:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) mainpagetext message uses deprecated markup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19858  (10N/A)
[08:36:32] <sandbu>	Hi, just a question regarding upgrading mediawiki. When I try to upgrade from version 1.13.2 -> 1.14 will mediawiki detect that the database already has mediawiki tables and upgrade the existing tables?
[08:39:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Names given to system messages do not follow a single format - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12131  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[08:40:40] <p858snake>	!upgrading | sandbu
[08:40:40] --mwbot--	sandbu: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading
[08:55:54] <Nikerabbit>	Simetrical: thanks for breaking cleanchanges :)
[08:58:00] <CIA-52>	03nikerabbit * r54257 10/trunk/extensions/CleanChanges/CleanChanges_body.php: Some ugly revision hiding support
[09:10:59] <Nikerabbit>	Simetrical: now the legend info 1+N places, surely either 1 or the N is enough?
[09:14:39] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Extension:Wikidata_Language_Manager: PLURAL support needed. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18695  +comment (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[09:15:09] <CIA-52>	03nikerabbit * r54258 10/trunk/extensions/CleanChanges/CleanChanges_body.php: Make work with core r54242
[09:18:33] <tyw7>	t
[09:19:02] <tyw7>	!helper regarding bug 2022 can anyone view the attatchment I attatched?
[09:19:02] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "helper".
[09:20:23] <p858snake>	the last reply in 2022 is from 2005?
[09:20:47] <tyw7>	p858snake, are you talking to me?
[09:21:05] <p858snake>	yes
[09:21:13] <tyw7>	regarding bug 2022 can anyone view the attatchment I have sent
[09:21:20] <tyw7>	it's 20022
[09:23:39] <tyw7>	p858snake, hello???
[09:24:42] <Platonides>	tyw7, you should be better be asking for someone with Opera Mini
[09:25:09] <tyw7>	but it's regarding the bug
[09:29:36] <tyw7>	hello???
[09:30:36] <tyw7>	Platonides,?
[09:30:42] <Platonides>	whaT?
[09:30:46] <Platonides>	I don't have opera mini
[09:30:49] <tyw7>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20022
[09:30:51] <Platonides>	so I can't open the obml file
[09:31:05] <tyw7>	that who can view it?
[09:31:07] <Nikerabbit>	AWPOEIFAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOA
[09:31:09] <Nikerabbit>	awdFLA WFEEEEÄWA PFLÄWF
[09:31:19] <tyw7>	STOP THE SPAM!
[09:31:21] <Platonides>	ah, and you'll get an email when someone changes the bug
[09:31:39] <Platonides>	there's no need to ask about sending you reports at your talk
[09:32:05] <tyw7>	is innocentkiler@googlemail.com here?
[09:32:08] <Nikerabbit>	looks like it was one of the new committers
[09:32:50] <CIA-52>	03raymond * r54259 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/OggHandler.i18n.php: Follow-up r54255: tweak message for consistent spelling
[09:34:52] <CIA-52>	03nikerabbit * r54260 10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmEdit/ConfirmEdit_body.php: Reverted r54215, breaks captcha
[09:35:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Edit summary reminder preference conflicts with CAPTCHA extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10729  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[09:38:09] <Platonides>	tyw7, he's ^demon|zzz
[09:38:16] <tyw7>	and?
[09:38:31] <tyw7>	is he online? or sleeping?
[09:38:37] <Platonides>	he looks sleeping
[09:40:36] <werdna>	22:17 < Church_of_emacs_> In Preferences.php $defaultPreferences[]['default'] neither accepts wikitext nor html. There is only an ugly workaround: use $defaultPreferences[]['help'] (which accepts  wikitext). Is there a security reason why 'default' accepts no wikitext?
[09:40:47] <werdna>	It doesn't make sense to put HTML in there, it's the content for a textbox in most cases.
[09:40:55] <Nikerabbit>	he is not here
[09:41:01] <tyw7>	what html?
[09:41:07] <Nikerabbit>	otherwise I would have told him to fix captcha
[09:41:21] <werdna>	With one exception, the 'info' type, in which case there's a 'raw' parameter which, if set to true, accepts HTML
[09:41:24] <tyw7>	are you talking to me?
[09:41:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Anchor for refereces not shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16152  (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[09:41:29] <Nikerabbit>	what the fuck
[09:41:37] <Nikerabbit>	how am I supposed to do work when trunk is full of bugs
[09:42:02] <tyw7>	hey no scolding!
[09:42:50] <werdna>	scalding water
[09:43:18] <p858snake>	Werdna Lives!
[09:43:30] <p858snake>	havn't seen you speak for ages
[09:44:22] *rainman-sr 	hands Nikerabit a very large insect repellent bottle
[09:44:59] <Splarka>	elephant sneezes needed
[09:45:08] <werdna>	p858snake: O RLY
[09:45:11] <werdna>	maybe just the weekend
[09:45:19] <werdna>	because, you know, I have a life sometimes over the weekend
[09:45:29] <p858snake>	{{cn}}
[09:45:41] <Splarka>	20090802.txt -> [21:26:59] <werdna> php sucks
[09:45:58] *tyw7 	kills p858snake because s/he is a dangerous snake
[09:46:11] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) delete-backlink is confusing and redundant - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20048 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Deleting; (niklas.laxstrom)
[09:46:25] *p858snake 	regenerates as swine flu particles and kills tyw7
[09:46:41] <tyw7>	wikibugs, regarding bug 20022 can you view the attatchment?
[09:49:09] <werdna>	??
[09:49:12] <werdna>	wikibugs is  a bot
[09:49:22] <tyw7>	oo
[09:49:29] <tyw7>	but can you?
[09:50:33] <Nikerabbit>	rainman-sr: still fixing the undefined index warning?
[09:53:47] <rainman-sr>	put it into bugzilla, i keep loosing the line you send me where the bug is 
[09:54:08] <tyw7>	can anyone look into bug 20022
[09:54:45] <CIA-52>	03nikerabbit * r54261 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/ComplexMessages.php: 
[09:54:45] <CIA-52>	* Label was missing
[09:54:45] <CIA-52>	* Some code to try to figure out where undefined index error is coming
[09:54:48] <Nikerabbit>	[01:03:34] -rakkaus:#mediawiki-i18n- [02-Aug-2009 22:03:36] PHP Notice:  Undefined offset:  0 in /var/www/w/includes/search/SearchEngine.php on line 895
[09:56:35] <helloohno>	Hey
[09:56:50] <Nikerabbit>	hi
[09:56:54] <helloohno>	Just accidentally dropped my mw_users table
[09:56:55] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 0 in /var/www/w/includes/search/SearchEngine.php on line 895 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20049 minor; Normal; MediaWiki: Search; (niklas.laxstrom)
[09:57:01] <Nikerabbit>	bad for you
[09:57:02] <helloohno>	Anyone got an sql create query for it?
[09:57:17] <Nikerabbit>	rerun the installer?
[09:57:19] <tyw7>	Nikerabbit, can you look into bug 20022
[09:57:27] <helloohno>	Won't rerun the installer lose the content?
[09:57:36] <Nikerabbit>	tyw7: RESOLVED FIXED
[09:57:40] <Nikerabbit>	tyw7: sorry wrong one
[09:57:46] <helloohno>	I can continue with the same content even after losing my user table yeah?
[09:57:52] <tyw7>	Nikerabbit, to me?
[09:57:57] <Nikerabbit>	tyw7: that one... only if you pay me
[09:58:01] <tyw7>	how did you fix it?
[09:58:08] <rainman-sr>	Nikerabbit, oh i was just about to do that 
[09:58:11] <rainman-sr>	ok then thanks
[09:59:00] <Nikerabbit>	tyw7: sorry WRONG ONE
[09:59:31] <tyw7>	rainman-sr, can you look into bug 20022?
[09:59:35] <Nikerabbit>	tyw7: and NO i will not look at that bug because there is no useful info, like screenshots
[09:59:39] <rainman-sr>	nope
[09:59:41] <rainman-sr>	sorry
[09:59:51] <tyw7>	the ombl IS the screenshot
[10:00:04] <helloohno>	Can someone please do a quick structure export on their mw_users table? :D
[10:00:09] <tyw7>	that .obml file is the screenshot!
[10:00:27] <rainman-sr>	unless you want to send me a test device :)
[10:00:47] <tyw7>	use a opera mini
[10:00:54] <tyw7>	*an
[10:01:13] <Nikerabbit>	tyw7: screenshots usually are .jpg or .png
[10:01:28] <tyw7>	I saved the page using an opera mini
[10:04:12] <neaext9>	hi
[10:04:27] <neaext9>	There is a people that speak italian?
[10:05:35] <neaext9>	f
[10:06:48] <helloohno>	Ok since ive lost my user table
[10:07:00] <helloohno>	What table would I be looking at to manually edit a page
[10:07:07] <helloohno>	For the time being
[10:07:17] <CIA-52>	03alexsh * r54262 10/USERINFO/ariel: eol-style
[10:08:00] <werdna>			$ids =  array_map( create_function( '$t', 'return $t->id();' ), $threads ); // ew
[10:08:05] *werdna 	sighs loudly
[10:08:36] <neaext9>	i have a problem in login
[10:08:50] <neaext9>	with login
[10:09:00] <neaext9>	i insert user and pws
[10:09:01] <neaext9>	pwd
[10:09:16] <neaext9>	but nothing
[10:15:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Error in AbuseFilterView.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20033  15enhancement->major; +comment (10matthew.britton)
[10:17:49] <CIA-52>	03werdna * r54263 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/Views/AbuseFilterView.php: Fix bug 20033, error in AbuseFilterView.php
[10:18:02] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Error in AbuseFilterView.php - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20033  +comment (10agarrett)
[10:18:56] <Nikerabbit>	helloohno: rerun the installer?
[10:19:30] <werdna>	helloohno: to re-add the user table, grab the definition from maintenance/tables.sql
[10:29:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Deprecated Article::updateArticle still used in core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18892  (10happy-melon)
[10:49:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Anchor for refereces not shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16152  (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[10:50:12] <CIA-52>	03nikerabbit * r54264 10/trunk/phase3/skins/Vector.php: 
[10:50:12] <CIA-52>	* Trailing Whitespace
[10:50:12] <CIA-52>	* Don't suppress warnings while developing, wasting my time for debugging
[11:00:17] <fotoflo>	hey, my wiki now has users on it... i probably should have set this up before, but I  good backup/recovery system ... 
[11:00:29] <fotoflo>	preferably incremental
[11:00:43] <fotoflo>	(for the images, anyway)
[11:06:39] <CIA-52>	03btongminh * r54265 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
[11:06:39] <CIA-52>	Revert r53678, r53704, r53705, r53773, r53930, r54199, r54201: Addition of ApiQueryBrokenRedirects and ApiQueryDoubleRedirects.
[11:06:39] <CIA-52>	This is pure code duplication and should be done by fetching data from the respective query pages. This has as advantage that other query pages can be readily added to the API as well. See the querypage-work branch.
[11:08:33] <TigerDuck>	Hi there. I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask but: Can you advice on the "Sun Wiki Publisher" extension for OOorg and how to teach it to accept a self-signed SSL certificate?
[11:13:08] <CIA-52>	03rotem * r54266 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update.
[11:13:56] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Reference with numbered list inside can spoil later ref rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20050 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Cite; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[11:19:40] <Boudewijn>	hello, can anyone tell me how jsScriptLoader.php can be used?
[11:20:16] <Nikerabbit>	mdale probably
[11:21:35] <Boudewijn>	is it already working with 116a
[11:22:43] <Nikerabbit>	if you enable some global variable
[11:23:57] <Nikerabbit>	is anyone here familiar with memcached?
[11:24:19] <Nikerabbit>	memcached: Error parsing memcached response
[11:25:11] <Nikerabbit>	ahha
[11:25:14] <fotoflo>	HELP!  my wiki now has users on it... i probably should have set this up before, but I  good backup/recovery system ...
[11:25:28] <fotoflo>	any suggestions? (maybe a plugin?)
[11:25:42] <Nikerabbit>	fotoflo: tar, rdiff-backup, whatever
[11:25:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Reference with numbered list inside can spoil later ref rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20050  (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[11:27:21] <fotoflo>	Nikerabbit: you mean with bash scripts?
[11:27:24] <Boudewijn>	how do I use jsScriptLoader.php, which global variable
[11:28:27] <^demon>	Morning folks.
[11:29:01] <Boudewijn>	morning
[11:29:40] <Nikerabbit>	ärrä
[11:31:08] *^demon 	saw he got pinged by Nikerabbit while he was |zzz :)
[11:31:21] <CIA-52>	03mkroetzsch * r54267 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (4 files in 3 dirs): support new built-in property to record if input errors happened on a page; final name for that property still under discussion (see mailing list)
[11:31:27] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: I don't care about bug 20022 :p
[11:33:29] <charitwo>	created as a BLOCKER, lol
[11:34:04] <Platonides>	fotoflo, what's the problem with it?
[11:34:19] <fotoflo>	the problem with... 
[11:34:32] <fotoflo>	writing my own bash scirpt?
[11:34:34] <^demon>	charitwo: Yeah. I shouldn't have added my CC on it, now he thinks I care :p
[11:34:50] <Platonides>	 <fotoflo> HELP!  my wiki now has users on it...
[11:35:04] <Platonides>	you usually want to have users...
[11:35:05] <fotoflo>	t I good backup/recovery system ...
[11:35:08] <fotoflo>	whoops typo
[11:35:17] <fotoflo>	i NEED a good backup/recovery system
[11:35:34] <charitwo>	^demon: what about bug 20047 ? ;)
[11:35:54] <^demon>	!b 20047
[11:35:54] --mwbot--	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20047
[11:36:59] <^demon>	charitwo: I think the protection code is one thing I've never touched. Heh.
[11:36:59] <CIA-52>	03nikerabbit * r54268 10/trunk/phase3/includes/GlobalFunctions.php: Memcached does not like spaces in keys
[11:37:03] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: huh? did I think you owuld?
[11:37:19] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: No you didn't. Tyw7 thinks I care though :p
[11:37:33] <charitwo>	tyw7? :|
[11:38:06] <fotoflo>	Platonides: any ideas? Iive now got about 30 users and growing fast... I have another server to backup to, but i need a good rsync script that's got all the bases covered (emails me if there's a problem, backs up my extensions and uploads and XML and database data, etc)
[11:38:41] <CIA-52>	03nikerabbit * r54269 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
[11:38:41] <CIA-52>	* Toolbox link to export translatable pages with translations
[11:38:41] <CIA-52>	* Add width and height to the image to speed up rendering
[11:38:43] <fotoflo>	something i can cron...
[11:39:17] <CIA-52>	03mkroetzsch * r54270 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_ParserExtensions.php: completely ignore empty property values instead of reporting an error (they were not valid for any datatype anyway); useful for saving some checks e.g. in templates
[11:39:26] <fotoflo>	http://www.wplug.org/wiki/Simple_MediaWiki_Backup  - anyone tried this?
[11:40:06] <^demon>	I've never even heard of that site.
[11:40:11] <^demon>	!backup
[11:40:11] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki
[11:40:24] <^demon>	fotoflo: Try reading the stuff there ^
[11:40:30] <fotoflo>	i have
[11:40:38] <fotoflo>	Scripts: Use at your own risk
[11:40:54] <fotoflo>	tried installing mw_tools, but it was very incomplete
[11:41:54] <fotoflo>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Flominator/Backup_MW --- looking at this one now
[11:43:05] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Allow an option to provide the same or different protection to the talk page when protecting a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20047  +comment (10Platonides)
[11:44:29] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Allow an option to provide the same or different protection to the talk page when protecting a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20047  +comment (10charitwo)
[11:44:30] <SB_Johnny>	hello
[11:44:51] <p858snake>	ooh do we see bug fights comming >.>
[11:45:03] <SB_Johnny>	does mediawiki have compatibility problems with MySQL 5 ?
[11:45:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) API: support for "tags" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19004  +comment (10matthew.britton)
[11:45:42] <Platonides>	SB_Johnny, no
[11:45:53] <SB_Johnny>	odd
[11:46:05] <SB_Johnny>	suddenly all of my group permissions aren't working
[11:46:08] <Platonides>	do you have problems with mysql 5?
[11:46:31] <SB_Johnny>	happened just after my host upgraded
[11:46:41] <Platonides>	what's the content of table user_groups?
[11:46:51] <Platonides>	sometimes it gets padded with nulls
[11:46:53] <SB_Johnny>	table?
[11:47:04] <Platonides>	the wiki table called user_groups
[11:47:24] <Platonides>	try setting $wgMysql5 = true; at Localsettings
[11:47:51] <SB_Johnny>	well, they switched it back now, apparently
[11:47:54] <Platonides>	er.. $wgDBmysql5
[11:48:00] <SB_Johnny>	but still getting the error message
[11:52:35] <SB_Johnny>	dammit
[11:54:24] <SB_Johnny>	Platonoides, where would the table be?
[11:55:48] <CIA-52>	03mkroetzsch * r54271 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_ParseData.php: re-read property values when the property datatype has changed, even for pages where only invalid values had been given to that property so far
[11:59:15] <SB_Johnny>	Platonoides?
[12:04:03] <Platonides>	SB_Johnny, at the database used by mediawiki
[12:04:41] <SB_Johnny>	well, upgrading to 1.5.1 atm... hold on a few
[12:05:06] <Platonides>	you mean 1.15.1 I hope
[12:07:24] <SB_Johnny>	uh, yeah :-)
[12:07:40] <Platonides>	:)
[12:10:58] <SB_Johnny>	Platonoides: I'm in the database, not sure what to make of it
[12:11:05] <SB_Johnny>	using phpMyAdmin
[12:11:21] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: in re to r54244....I was trying to be consistent with other files. Generally, the maintenance scripts (not in subdirs) require 'commandLine.inc' as-is, with no paths or anything.
[12:11:50] <^demon>	And the ones in subdirs seem to use require_once( dirname(__FILE__).'/../commandLine.inc' ); more or less consistently. I was just updating the 3 that stood out from the rest.
[12:13:59] <SB_Johnny>	I don't understand what's going on... I commented out all the security stuff on localsettings, and still can't read anything off the whitelist
[12:20:01] <CIA-52>	03mkroetzsch * r54272 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_ParseData.php: removed @todo that was fixed with previous commit
[12:33:10] <svip>	Simetrical: Should "!" be in the legend?  I mean, isn't it only for sysops?
[12:33:22] <svip>	Simetrical: Wouldn't it just be confusing for regular viewers?
[12:37:59] <Nikerabbit>	meow
[12:38:05] <svip>	meow
[12:51:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Redirect fixer contributions caused by vandalism - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15622  +comment (10mohamed.m.k)
[13:00:08] <CIA-52>	03shinjiman * r54275 10/trunk/tools/planet/ (16 files in 11 dirs): +ro planet link
[13:01:17] <theocrite>	Hi all.
[13:03:49] <CIA-52>	03nikerabbit * r54276 10/trunk/extensions/I18nTags/I18nTags.magic.php: * Localisation updates from translatewiki.net (testing magic words export)
[13:04:21] <theocrite>	In the "search" box, is there a way to make set the default action as "search" instead of "go" ? Our users get easily confused when they have no results, cause they think it means that there is nothing speaking about this, and not "the page doesn't exists"
[13:04:53] <CIA-52>	03nikerabbit * r54277 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/scripts/magic-export.php: Add some progress information
[13:05:14] <Nikerabbit>	theocrite: isn't that the default?
[13:20:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Edit summary reminder preference conflicts with CAPTCHA extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10729  (10church.of.emacs.ml)
[13:21:14] <CIA-52>	03nikerabbit * r54278 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (Translate.php groups/ComplexMessages.php): 
[13:21:14] <CIA-52>	* Cleanup old stuff
[13:21:14] <CIA-52>	* Skip integrity check on cli only
[13:21:35] <Nikerabbit>	Church_of_emacs: waaaaaaar^^^
[13:22:07] <Nikerabbit>	ehrm
[13:22:09] <Nikerabbit>	hello I mean
[13:24:06] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: Did you get my msg about the commandLine.inc?
[13:24:24] <svip>	Blargh.
[13:24:34] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: yes but you did not address my point
[13:24:34] <svip>	This Wikia is really angrying up my blood.
[13:25:05] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: So what do you suggest?
[13:28:08] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: make them consistent, ie all with full path
[13:29:35] <^demon>	k.
[13:29:57] <^demon>	I suppose the same idea should extend to requiring Maintenance.php
[13:30:17] <Nikerabbit>	dunno
[13:30:30] <Nikerabbit>	with cli.inc that is the only possible consistent way
[13:31:34] <Church_of_emacs>	hi, Nikerabbit :)
[13:31:50] <Church_of_emacs>	At first I thought you were wrong, but I now realized my error
[13:32:18] <CIA-52>	03jojo * r54279 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.hooks.php: use array(), not null, for empty query
[13:34:05] <CIA-52>	03jojo * r54280 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.hooks.php: load messages (needed for Ajax calls)
[13:41:35] <doobeh>	Are there any plugins to make image insertion easier for a less savvy user?
[13:43:05] <doobeh>	I rolled out MW for a project at work, and can see that users are finding the process of adding images, then documenting a bit too challenging.  If I could make it more of a one step process, I think I'd have more chance rolling it out further.
[13:44:32] <werdna>	doobeh: we're hoping to improve that workflow yeah
[13:45:26] <^demon>	Well that was certainly annoying.
[13:46:17] <svip>	And a long netsplit.
[13:46:31] <CIA-52>	03raymond * r54281 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: Follow-up r54273: Ignore 'coll-create_a_book_box_style' for translatewiki
[13:46:39] <doobeh>	werdna: Do you know of anyone who's given it a go?  Or if not, where I might best lend a hand
[13:47:04] <^demon>	Raymond_: Worst message key ever.
[13:47:06] <werdna>	Well, it's probably not quite ready yet -- the people to talk to would be the Wikipedia Usability Initiative
[13:47:09] <werdna>	roberthl: around?
[13:47:15] <werdna>	erm
[13:47:25] <werdna>	no, Roan isn't around
[13:47:33] <werdna>	you'll need to wait 3 hours or so\
[13:47:53] <^demon>	Hahaha
[13:47:54] <^demon>	define( 'NOT_REALLY_MEDIAWIKI', 1 );
[13:48:25] <werdna>	...
[13:48:25] <doobeh>	I'll have a read about the initiative, thanks
[13:48:35] <werdna>	doobeh: http://usability.wikimedia.org
[13:48:43] *doobeh 	tips hat
[13:49:55] <^demon>	werdna: Tim wrote that in r15755
[13:51:14] <Church_of_emacs_>	werdna, any reason why in Preferences.php $defaultPreferences[]['default'] allows only plain text (no wikitext or html)?
[13:51:24] <werdna>	Church_of_emacs_: I responded a few hours ago
[13:51:27] <werdna>	sec
[13:51:37] <Church_of_emacs_>	oh, I didn't get that, sorry
[13:52:10] <werdna>	09:40 < werdna> 22:17 < Church_of_emacs_> In Preferences.php $defaultPreferences[]['default'] neither accepts wikitext nor html. There is only an ugly workaround: use $defaultPreferences[]['help']  (which accepts  wikitext). Is there a security reason why 'default' accepts no wikitext?
[13:52:10] <werdna>	09:40 < werdna> It doesn't make sense to put HTML in there, it's the content for a textbox in most cases.
[13:52:12] <werdna>	09:41 < werdna> With one exception, the 'info' type, in which case there's a 'raw' parameter which, if set to true, accepts HTML
[13:52:37] <Church_of_emacs_>	thanks, I'll try that
[13:53:04] <svip>	Blaaa.
[13:53:34] *svip 	throws up.
[13:53:38] <svip>	Damn netsplit.
[13:54:33] <Church_of_emacs_>	werdna, thanks a million, it works! BTW, is there a documentation on $defaultPreferences?
[13:54:43] <werdna>	At the top of Preferences.php
[13:56:05] <svip>	^demon: In which r did you fix the catagory link paragraph issue?
[13:56:29] <^demon>	werdna: A list of every possible param for an option (type, default, label, etc) would be nice too.
[13:56:33] <Church_of_emacs_>	Yes, but it seems to me that not all of the parameters are described. At least I couldn't find the "raw" parameter. Well anyway, the problem is solved, thanks again
[13:56:37] <^demon>	svip: Category link issue?
[13:56:40] <werdna>	I think I started writing that.
[13:56:45] <werdna>	Church_of_emacs_: the code is the documentation ;)
[13:56:58] <Church_of_emacs_>	right :)
[13:57:04] <svip>	^demon: I think it was you who made an edit that made MediaWiki not render paragraphs when a category link was in the article.
[13:57:58] <^demon>	No, wasn't me.
[14:05:57] <plop28_>	hi all, im trying to install lucene search v2 on a different host
[14:06:05] <plop28_>	i have installed java 1.6 and modify my PATH but when i type configure, it give me "java command not found"
[14:06:11] <plop28_>	im on slackware 12.2
[14:06:40] <werdna>	type java on your command-line
[14:08:44] <plop28_>	my command line is ./configure
[14:08:57] <plop28_>	where should i add java ?
[14:09:10] <werdna>	no, I mean just type 'java'
[14:09:13] <werdna>	and see what happens
[14:09:27] <plop28_>	the same
[14:09:50] <plop28_>	java is located in /usr/local/jdk
[14:09:50] <werdna>	then java isn't in your path
[14:09:58] <werdna>	echo $PATH
[14:10:18] <plop28_>	and in my PATH i have usr/local/jdk/bin
[14:10:27] <plop28_>	and java is in /bin folder
[14:10:46] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: Have a patch to make all require's for commandLine.inc or Maintenance.php use the full path. I'll commit it this evening.
[14:11:43] <werdna>	plop28_: give me the exact output of echo $PATH
[14:11:56] <werdna>	i bet you updated .profile but didn't source it.
[14:11:57] <plop28_>	okay, wait i lunch the SSH :P
[14:13:22] <doobeh>	With regards to the usability initiative-- would I be right in assuming javascript can be considered a prerequisite for a user, as long as it degrades at least to the simple <textarea> ?
[14:13:23] <plop28_>	ha, my echo $PATH command don't return the same value on ssh access
[14:13:35] <plop28_>	on the server the java PATH appear well
[14:14:43] <doobeh>	wolfe server looks like it had some bad dog-food earlier
[14:15:24] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Exception after save attempt (blocked user) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19762  (10johannes.beigel)
[14:15:28] <plop28_>	werdna My echo $PATH command don't return the same value on ssh access
[14:15:49] <werdna>	doobeh: yes.
[14:18:32] <plop28_>	to modify my path i typed #export JAVA_HOME="usr/local/jdk"
[14:19:23] <plop28_>	and #export PATH="${JAVA_HOME}/bin:$PATH"
[14:20:15] <werdna>	that would only work temporarily
[14:20:27] <werdna>	also, you made a mistake
[14:20:36] <werdna>	you mean JAVA+HOME="/usr/local/jdk"
[14:20:40] <werdna>	s/+/_
[14:20:47] <werdna>	notice the leading /
[14:21:13] <plop28_>	backward jdk ?
[14:22:15] <werdna>	huh?
[14:22:19] <werdna>	14:18 < plop28_> to modify my path i typed #export JAVA_HOME="usr/local/jdk"
[14:22:31] <werdna>	You need a leading / on /usr
[14:22:34] <plop28_>	sorry im french :)
[14:22:47] <werdna>	otherwise it's a relative path, and would only work if your current directory is /
[14:22:51] <werdna>	ah
[14:23:10] <plop28_>	my bad, its right on the server 
[14:23:57] <Boudewijn>	guys, jsScriptloader..
[14:24:02] <Boudewijn>	is it working already
[14:24:52] <^demon>	Boudewijn: That's a question for mdale.
[14:27:27] <Nikerabbit>	Boudewijn: why don't you just try it out
[14:28:43] <Boudewijn>	well ...it does not get loaded for some reason
[14:29:01] <Nikerabbit>	did you add $wgEnableScriptLoader = true;?
[14:29:14] <Boudewijn>	of course not ;)
[14:30:13] <plop28_>	werdna ok it works thx 
[14:31:03] <Boudewijn>	does not work
[14:31:39] <CIA-52>	03werdna * r54282 10/trunk/extensions/HoneypotIntegration/HoneypotIntegration.php: Comment on commented-out stuff
[14:31:43] <theocrite>	Nikerabbit: sry for the delay, I had a server crashin, had to check that. I guess the option should be fine after a though, i'll try to see with them. Thanksfor your answer
[14:32:23] <plop28_>	werdna i have to install the daemon  on a different host. The ./configure command wait for the path to mediawiki root directory. What should i do ? 
[14:32:25] <plop28_>	:)
[14:33:40] <werdna>	plop28_: install as if you were to run the indexer on the same host, follow these instructions http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lucene-search#..._put_the_indexer_on_a_different_host
[14:34:22] <plop28_>	yep i have this page, i dont have to run the configure and make command ?
[14:34:32] <CIA-52>	03werdna * r54283 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[14:34:32] <CIA-52>	Touching up from code review on LiquidThreads:
[14:34:32] <CIA-52>	* Remove commented-out code.
[14:34:32] <CIA-52>	* Re-add wrong removed CSS rule, remove the correct one.
[14:34:32] <CIA-52>	* Convert messages from HTML to wikitext.
[14:34:33] <CIA-52>	* Remove dead code.
[14:34:35] <CIA-52>	* Remove obsolete comments.
[14:38:14] <Boudewijn>	Nikerabbit
[14:38:31] <Boudewijn>	how can I unset CSS files that are automatically loaded
[14:40:22] <plop28_>	werdna yep i have this page, i dont have to run the configure and make command ?
[14:40:36] <^demon>	Any german speakers around?
[14:40:38] <Boudewijn>	there are like over 5 CSS files that come with headscripts
[14:40:46] <plop28_>	werdna just modify files and run the rsynch ?
[14:40:56] <Boudewijn>	I speak a little german
[14:41:01] <werdna>	plop28_: I think so, I have no personal experience
[14:41:58] <Nikerabbit>	Boudewijn: script loader does not handle css
[14:42:17] <Nikerabbit>	Boudewijn: maybe you should actually tell us what you want to do
[14:43:10] <Boudewijn>	Nikerabbit, the scriptloader works now..although I do not get respons with echo from a jsLoader file
[14:43:20] <Boudewijn>	so I was misled
[14:43:34] <Boudewijn>	but now I want to kill css files...
[14:43:45] <Boudewijn>	I am trying to reduce HTTP connections
[14:44:03] <Nikerabbit>	not much you can do
[14:44:11] <Nikerabbit>	try disabling user js/css
[14:44:37] <Boudewijn>	does that kill the print & shared css?
[14:45:03] <plop28_>	werdna, ok thanks i will see
[14:45:17] <svip>	Damn.
[14:45:24] <plop28_>	werdna, but i have to install mwsearch right ?
[14:45:24] <svip>	How do I search in reversions?
[14:45:31] <svip>	I need to find that category mistake.
[14:46:14] <Nikerabbit>	Boudewijn: no
[14:47:15] <Nikerabbit>	what stupid browser is loading print.css anyway?
[14:49:27] <GreenReaper>	Most of them load it . . .
[14:58:06] <GreenReaper>	They might not apply it though.
[14:58:06] <svip>	Ah, it was ialex.
[14:58:06] <plop28_>	werdna "transfer the appropriate cron jobs to indexer" what does it mean ?
[14:58:06] <werdna>	if you have cron jobs set up, move them to the indexing host
[14:58:06] <GreenReaper>	Boudewijn: You can kill print.css as a feature, which might help. But honestly the best thing to do is to make sure everything that can reasonably be cached, is. Minifying the js/css might help bandwidth-wise, too.
[14:58:06] <svip>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/54145 :)
[14:58:06] <plop28_>	werdna the word i dont understand is cron jobs
[14:58:06] <svip>	plop28_: A cron job is a task done on a routine basis.
[14:58:06] <werdna>	regularly-scheduled index updates
[14:58:06] <svip>	Usually through crontab.
[14:58:06] <plop28_>	ok no i haven't
[14:58:06] <werdna>	usually done with crond, which is a unix program which allows scheduled tasks
[14:58:06] <svip>	There is a Wikipedia article on the subject.
[14:58:06] <plop28_>	ok
[15:01:59] <plop28_>	werdna "# Look at lsearch-global.conf in [Index] section. Replace the search host name in this section by the new indexer host name."
[15:02:05] <CIA-52>	03werdna * r54284 10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 3 dirs): 
[15:02:05] <CIA-52>	(bug 16451) Fix application of scaling limits for animated GIFs.
[15:02:05] <CIA-52>	* Creates a new media handler for GIF files, and extracts metadata such as duration, whether or not the GIF is looped, and the number of frames.
[15:02:05] <CIA-52>	* Uses the extracted metadata for the long file description.
[15:02:05] <CIA-52>	* Considers number of frames in the calculation of image area (multiplies by width and height to get the "time-area", or so to speak).
[15:02:10] <CIA-52>	After this patch is deployed, the work-around to disable GIF scaling on Wikimedia sites can be eliminated.
[15:02:30] <plop28_>	werdna lsearch must be install first on my server in order to use it on a different server ??
[15:05:21] <^demon>	werdna: \o/
[15:08:42] <plop28_>	my helper has disapear :/
[15:14:20] <CIA-52>	03raymond * r54285 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
[15:14:20] <CIA-52>	Follow-up r54284: PLURAL keyword for message
[15:14:20] <CIA-52>	* Add new message keys to maintenance script
[15:14:20] <CIA-52>	* eol-style:native
[15:16:20] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) cannot add comments to techblog.wikimedia.org from certain IP ranges - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19540  +comment (10rhalsell)
[15:16:30] <plop28_>	i have to go, thanks for the help, i'll be back ;)
[15:19:05] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Set up a logo for mhr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19707  +comment (10rhalsell)
[15:20:29] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) Please activate $wgBlockAllowsUTEdit in cawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19400  +comment (10rhalsell)
[15:22:33] <letourdefrance_>	What is the rule to create a blue dotted border aroung an element. Sometimes it just comes and i do not know why
[15:23:17] <Nikerabbit>	the one for <pre>?
[15:24:17] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Adding logo to Tamil Wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19619  +comment (10rhalsell)
[15:25:37] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Add namespace alias on de.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19884  +comment (10rhalsell)
[15:30:06] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Source change - Portuguese Wikipedia logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20016  +comment (10rhalsell)
[15:30:11] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Change logo on eu.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19898  +comment (10rhalsell)
[15:30:15] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) New logo for oc wikibook - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19675  +comment (10rhalsell)
[15:33:31] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Techblog: Favicon is missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19614  +comment (10rhalsell)
[15:36:43] <AaronSchulz>	RobH: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19241
[15:49:14] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) GIF scaling limit should be applied to animated GIFs only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16451  +comment (10agarrett)
[15:50:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Techblog: Favicon is missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19614  +comment (10church.of.emacs.ml)
[15:59:28] <Marco27>	RobH: Hello! Have you seen my query?
[15:59:46] <RobH>	?
[16:01:10] <Marco27>	RobH: A few of hour ago, I've sent you a message via query...
[16:01:26] <RobH>	I do not have it, but I had to reboot for system updates
[16:01:29] <RobH>	what was the question?  =]
[16:02:10] <Marco27>	RobH: Ah, ok :) ... Can you fix bug 19639, please? We really need to import pages from it.wp...
[16:03:05] <RobH>	I am in middle of another bug right this second, but I can certainly do that one next, its easy =]
[16:03:14] <RobH>	will be done shortly
[16:03:57] <Marco27>	ok, thanks RobH :)
[16:04:06] <RobH>	anytime =]
[16:05:20] <AaronSchulz>	\o/
[16:06:10] *^demon 	gives RobH some cookies
[16:06:31] <RobH>	i prefer stoopwafels to the electronic verification veriety.
[16:06:58] *^demon 	writes Rob a stoopwafel generation script
[16:07:44] <^demon>	AaronSchulz: Oh FR guru...would love your input on using it on MW.org for quality control of the docs.
[16:16:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 0 in /var/www/w/includes/search/SearchEngine.php on line 895 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20049  +comment (10brion)
[16:16:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) links on Special:DeletedContributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20006  (10umherirrender_de.wp)
[16:17:40] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Add sources to enable transwiki importing on vec.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19639  +comment (10rhalsell)
[16:17:42] <RobH>	Marco27: you should be all set now
[16:18:42] <Marco27>	RobH: Thanks a lot :) !
[16:19:42] <^demon>	brion: Oooh, 20049 looks fun
[16:20:07] *AaronSchulz 	waves brion
[16:23:33] <brion>	yo 
[16:24:35] <^demon>	AaronSchulz: So you have no opinion on the matter? :p
[16:24:45] <AaronSchulz>	not really
[16:24:55] <^demon>	Heh figured.
[16:25:28] <AaronSchulz>	it might be nice...but I don't feel like drafting proposals
[16:25:45] *AaronSchulz 	just recommends implementations for proposals
[16:25:45] <Nikerabbit>	hi brion... why there is no test results for new commits?
[16:26:28] <brion>	Nikerabbit: i haen't finished setting up the automation
[16:26:36] <Nikerabbit>	oh
[16:27:10] <^demon>	AaronSchulz: My main thing is just trying to enforce a QA procedure on our docs. My main concern isn't vandalism, rather people who are helpful-but-clueless. You know?
[16:27:38] <ekimmargni>	^demon: I'll promise not to touch things if that helps :P
[16:28:27] <svip>	Nikerabbit: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/54242#c3366
[16:28:27] <^demon>	ekimmargni: You have common sense. You know (like I) that you shouldn't write docs when you don't know what you're talking about.
[16:28:31] <Nikerabbit>	werdna: http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Support#New_MediaWiki_messages.
[16:28:39] <svip>	Can you add this line:
[16:28:43] <svip>	'recentchanges-label-legend'        => "<div class=\"rclabel-legend\">Legend: $1 - new page, $2 - minor edit, $3 - bot edit, $4 - unpatrolled edit.</div>",
[16:29:00] <svip>	Hm.
[16:29:00] <Nikerabbit>	now you settle for a class only?
[16:29:05] <svip>	Maybe id instead of class.
[16:29:13] <Nikerabbit>	nah
[16:29:16] <svip>	What?
[16:29:20] <Nikerabbit>	I wont add id
[16:29:23] <svip>	There was no wrapper before?
[16:29:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) RSS/ATOM Feeds / Endless Loop in includes/diff/DifferenceEngine.php(1258) : Fatal error - Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20041  +comment (10brion)
[16:29:27] <svip>	You are confusing me.
[16:29:32] <svip>	Have you already followed up on the comment?
[16:29:41] <Nikerabbit>	and I can't really see use case for class either
[16:29:53] <svip>	Did you see the comment?
[16:30:10] <MrZ-man>	in any case, the div should really be in the code, not the message
[16:30:11] <Nikerabbit>	yes I am talking about it
[16:30:39] <svip>	MrZ-man is right though.
[16:30:42] <svip>	My edit was terrible.
[16:30:48] <wikibugs>	03(mod) php error in LinkHolderArray - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20036  +comment (10brion)
[16:31:06] <svip>	Nikerabbit: What do you suggest then?
[16:31:11] <svip>	A wrapper without a class/id?
[16:33:13] <brion>	Who wants https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20041 ? Shouldn't be difficult in absolute terms... check a timer in some of the diff loops and throw an exception, which we can catch if we want in feed generation
[16:33:13] <svip>	FunPika: Is yourwiki better than Wikia?
[16:35:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Edit preview doesn't let you preview cite.php footnotes. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5984  (10rene.kijewski)
[16:36:09] <CIA-52>	03aaron * r54286 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialDeletedContributions.php: clean up bizarre code - use timestamp for links again (as it is on deployment)
[16:36:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Refactoring to make external authentication and identity systems easier - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3709  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[16:39:17] <Nikerabbit>	svip: I want to know the use case first
[16:40:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Edit preview doesn't let you preview cite.php footnotes. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5984  +comment (10svippy)
[16:40:49] <FunPika>	svip: you should probably try asking someone who would not give a biased answer. :P 
[16:40:59] <svip>	FunPika: Oh please.
[16:41:20] <svip>	Nikerabbit: I can imagine that someone would like to give it a border, through it to the right (so it is like an infobox next to the edits).
[16:41:30] <svip>	Maybe they want to hide it entirely.
[16:41:45] <svip>	Not that makes much sense, but who knows?
[16:41:49] <^demon>	brion: Do we actually need the importLogs stuff from way back when the logs in the Project namespace were imported to the "new" logging table? :P
[16:42:01] <svip>	Maybe they feel that the legend should have awesome colours or the flags in the legend should be different than the flags in the table.
[16:42:14] <brion>	^demon: i think we can kill that at this point :)
[16:43:42] <CIA-52>	03aaron * r54287 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialDeletedContributions.php: 
[16:43:42] <CIA-52>	* rev_deleted css fixes
[16:43:42] <CIA-52>	* disable unusable links per bug 20006
[16:43:43] <svip>	FunPika: Why is yourwiki better than Wikia?  Because content is not a lower priority than ads?
[16:43:44] <CIA-52>	03tparscal * r54288 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/EditToolbar.js: 
[16:43:44] <CIA-52>	Added more hebrew characters, however most of them are commented out since
[16:43:45] <CIA-52>	there's an issue with them not being visible on their own - specifically the
[16:43:47] <CIA-52>	characters for Nikud and Biblical punctuation (see
[16:43:49] <CIA-52>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ynhockey/Hebrew).
[16:44:14] <^demon>	brion: Seeing as it's pretty much tailored to how we used to do logs, I doubt it was ever of much use outside WMF anyway :p
[16:44:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) links on Special:DeletedContributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20006  (10JSchulz_4587)
[16:47:03] <brion>	yeah 
[16:49:25] <werdna>	brion: oh btw I did that gif thing :)
[16:50:37] <TheOracle23>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Skizzerz/Namespaces <~ Shouldn't "...be released in the 1.15 branch of MediaWiki." be changed to 1.16? (according to the roadmap)
[16:50:50] <Skizzerz>	probably
[16:50:59] <Skizzerz>	actually, should probably be changed to 1.17
[16:51:05] <TheOracle23>	orly
[16:51:28] <TheOracle23>	I honestly don't know but on the roadmap its under 1.16
[16:52:23] <Skizzerz>	it's doubtful I'd be able to get a working system done in 1.16
[16:52:48] <Skizzerz>	I could perhaps have a disabled-by-default page (like revisiondelete when it was first out)
[16:53:55] <brion>	werdna: i saw thx :D
[16:53:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) librsvg workaround for black background on Firefox printing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4968  +comment (10brion)
[16:54:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Fonts are off in rasterized SVG images on wikimedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3769  +comment (10brion)
[16:54:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVGs fail to render silently if they contain an <image /> element - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3537  +comment (10brion)
[16:54:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Incorrect scaling of .svg->.png images. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5933  +comment (10brion)
[16:54:14] <brion>	apergos: buncha SVG bugs headed your way :)
[16:54:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVG→PNG and baseline-shift - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5792  +comment (10brion)
[16:54:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) PNG replacement image for .SVG does not show transparency gradient correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6250  +comment (10brion)
[16:54:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVG image should have link to PNG version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6834  +comment (10brion)
[16:54:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Validate SVG content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7645  +comment (10brion)
[16:54:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Strange behaviour with SVG figure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7914  +comment (10brion)
[16:54:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVG renderer does not support the <pattern> tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8552  +comment (10brion)
[16:54:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Thumbnail rendering of SVGs broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8566  +comment (10brion)
[16:54:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Incorrect rendering of stretched text in svg -> png conversion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8895  +comment (10brion)
[16:55:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVG>PNG Incorrect text on path rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9420  +comment (10brion)
[16:55:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVG rasterisation on Wikimedia sites (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8901  +comment (10brion)
[16:55:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVG -PNG conversion error in Wikimedia? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10469  +comment (10brion)
[16:55:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVG thumbnail is cropped when displayed at natural size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9832  +comment (10brion)
[16:55:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVG element missing when image is downsized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9110  +comment (10brion)
[16:55:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Screen all previously-uploaded SVG files for invalid structure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13196  +comment (10brion)
[16:55:49] <MrZ-man>	O_o
[16:55:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVG: installed fonts not being rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10501  +comment (10brion)
[16:55:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Missing SVG image causing fatal errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10795  +comment (10brion)
[16:55:57] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVG: Missing implementation for textLength - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13387  +comment (10brion)
[16:56:00] *TheOracle23 	slaps wikibugs around a bit with a large trout
[16:56:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVG text-decoration (including underlining) doesn't render - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13495  +comment (10brion)
[16:56:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVG font scaling bug ("%" and "em" misconverted to "px") - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13494  +comment (10brion)
[16:56:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) OOM when generating thumbnail from SVG - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15994  +comment (10brion)
[16:56:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVG rendering: stacked tspan elements rendered in incorrect order - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17174  +comment (10brion)
[16:56:21] <CIA-52>	03tparscal * r54289 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/js/ (3 files): Fixed bug that caused double escaping of cells in tables of booklet pages.
[16:56:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVG thumbnailing issues - part of the image not rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18463  +comment (10brion)
[16:56:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) [SVG Rendering] Worsening of font rendering quality - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16368  +comment (10brion)
[16:56:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) probably bug in SVG→PNG rendering mechanism - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18900  +comment (10brion)
[16:56:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVG to PNG conversion broken for text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17187  +comment (10brion)
[16:56:34] <MrZ-man>	my goodness, we've really been neglecting our svg support
[16:56:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Support Linux Libertine Font for SVG rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16284  +comment (10brion)
[16:56:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Colour-dependent positioning errors in SVG rasterisation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18936  +comment (10brion)
[16:56:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVG rendering: problems with paths beyond page extend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19224  +comment (10brion)
[16:56:48] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Some arrows direction in SVG are wrongly rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19053  +comment (10brion)
[16:57:02] <TrevorParscal>	that was a bug-report-a-thon
[16:57:15] <svip>	brion loves da commenting.
[16:57:19] <TrevorParscal>	or.. bug-comment-a-thon
[16:57:22] <TrevorParscal>	:)
[16:57:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) small SVG files were not magnified for thumb image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19633  +comment (10brion)
[16:57:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Incorrect scaling of SVG file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19543  +comment (10brion)
[16:58:37] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Reference links should open reference section in Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20051 enhancement; Normal; Wikipedia Mobile: server; (malrase)
[17:03:53] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Moving an unwatched page onto a watchlisted title unwatches the latter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20052 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Watchlist; (neroute2)
[17:04:31] <CIA-52>	03mrzman * r54290 10/trunk/extensions/IndexFunction/ (5 files): Add a form to the special page to do prefix searches on page titles and the indexes table
[17:12:59] *Aaron_notebook 	looks up robot pets
[17:20:10] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Show/hide memory in Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20053 enhancement; Normal; Wikipedia Mobile: server; (malrase)
[17:24:33] <^demon>	I walk away for a few minutes and I get wikibugs spammed :p
[17:24:52] <charitwo>	progress!
[17:26:14] <GreenReaper>	Someone likes SVG
[17:27:46] *Aaron_notebook 	googles robot girlfriend
[17:28:45] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Certain well-formed page names cannot be removed from a watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15300  (10innocentkiller)
[17:29:35] <^demon>	I'm pretty sure 20052 is a dupe, can't find it though.
[17:29:39] <Aaron_notebook>	http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2023392.ece
[17:31:23] <^demon>	Aaron_notebook: Hello and welcome to December '08?
[17:31:57] <Aaron_notebook>	'Might short-circuit while doing the dishes;'
[17:31:58] <Aaron_notebook>	LOL
[17:34:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) API action=help should have anchors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19721  (10Bryan.TongMinh)
[17:37:27] <mgrant0>	Is there any way to set up mediawiki such that when a new user registeres, an admin has to approve them before they can edit things?  I'm getting a ton of spammers on my wiki with one-off gmail accounts and it's driving me nuts.
[17:38:07] <svip>	o_o
[17:38:11] <ekimmargni>	mgrant0: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Anti-spam_features
[17:38:24] <mgrant0>	When I say a ton, there's more than a thousand new users on my media wiki!
[17:38:34] <mgrant0>	I'm not even sure how I'm going to delete them...
[17:39:03] <mgrant0>	ekimmargni, thanks, looking.
[17:39:14] <ekimmargni>	you don't need to delete the accounts, just block them
[17:39:29] <mgrant0>	Is there any trick to mass blocking accounts?
[17:39:45] <ekimmargni>	get captchas, install spamblacklist, subscribe to our blacklist, and maybe install some other stuff in the "see also" section of that page
[17:39:58] <mgrant0>	I will do that.
[17:40:16] <Aaron_notebook>	if it is the same spammer, rangeblocks will go a long way
[17:40:18] <ekimmargni>	there are user javascripts for that, as well as a python framework
[17:40:32] <Aaron_notebook>	as well as checkuser mass blocks
[17:40:42] <ekimmargni>	that's comparatively rare
[17:41:00] <ekimmargni>	and actually, blocking the domains is usually more effective
[17:41:41] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) After patrolling an edit, include a link to the article in question - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20054 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (svippy)
[17:43:13] <Aaron_notebook>	the only way to block domains would be hacks or that sorbs thing if it is still there
[17:43:24] <mgrant0>	Is there then some way to list all the users and see what ip address they're coming from?
[17:43:54] <Aaron_notebook>	don't think so
[17:44:20] <flyingparchment>	select distinct rc_user_text, rc_ip from recentchanges;
[17:45:29] <mgrant0>	hmm, interesting.  1000+ users, only 32 lines in that query
[17:46:27] <Aaron_notebook>	flyingparchment: I'm always afraid to recommend sql queries...I usually get "How do I do that?" ;)
[17:46:56] <ekimmargni>	Aaron_notebook: Spam blacklist blocks the domains.
[17:47:04] <mgrant0>	Well, fortunatly, I'm no dummy :)
[17:47:11] <Aaron_notebook>	that encouraged me to move sql stuff to update.php :)
[17:48:15] <CIA-52>	03btongminh * r54291 10/trunk/phase3/ (11 files in 4 dirs): (bug 19004) Added support for tags to the API. Patch by Matthew Britton.
[17:48:54] <^demon>	Aaron_notebook: Rewrite it while you're at it
[17:49:09] <flyingparchment>	"tags"?
[17:49:31] <Aaron_notebook>	^demon: moo?
[17:49:49] <Aaron_notebook>	ekimmargni: I'm talking about the source, not the edits
[17:50:06] <Aaron_notebook>	flyingparchment: change tags
[17:50:10] <Aaron_notebook>	I'd guess
[17:50:19] <Aaron_notebook>	that thing only abusefilter uses atm
[17:51:32] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) API: support for "tags" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19004  +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh)
[17:51:40] <BryanTM>	no idea what they are, but apparently the patch appeared to work
[17:51:46] <Aaron_notebook>	:)
[17:51:47] <^demon>	Aaron_notebook: TorBlock also uses it. 
[17:52:02] <Aaron_notebook>	uses what?
[17:52:07] <Aaron_notebook>	ohh, tags
[17:52:51] <^demon>	WTF, somehow the revision # "19407" was in RTL in ViewVC.
[17:53:13] <Aaron_notebook>	^demon: is there even a UI for manual taggin?
[17:54:16] <^demon>	Not yet
[17:54:22] <AaronSchulz>	hmm
[17:56:31] <CIA-52>	03shinjiman * r54292 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Literary Chinese
[17:56:33] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) ArticleSave family of hooks has unused parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13323  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[17:57:07] <^demon>	Well digging through 40k revisions of Article sure was fun. What's next?
[17:57:49] <BryanTM>	you are aware of svn blame right ? :P
[17:58:08] <AaronSchulz>	gets useless pretty fast
[17:58:23] <AaronSchulz>	but always the first choice, yes
[17:58:43] <Bryan>	true & true
[17:58:50] <AaronSchulz>	though...recursive annotation would be faster than all by hand
[17:59:16] <AaronSchulz>	e.g. go to the rev the annotate says he/she added it...look at the diff...if bogus, annotate that rev...blah
[17:59:56] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) API needs better throttling for expensive queries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18489  +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh)
[18:01:40] <^demon>	AaronSchulz: IMHO, whitespace changes should be ignored by annotate.
[18:02:25] <Nikerabbit>	or just support going back in history better
[18:02:29] <CIA-52>	03rotem * r54293 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update.
[18:02:43] <Nikerabbit>	it's f** pita to do it in viewvc or on cli
[18:03:04] <CIA-52>	03rotem * r54294 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization fix.
[18:03:59] <^demon>	Hehe: "Is there any evidence that the tests in phase3/maintenance/Tests ever worked?"
[18:04:06] <trev>	question
[18:04:19] <^demon>	trev: Ask away
[18:04:38] <trev>	if one of the users changed their password but never got the email. If I have Sysop privs how would I change their password or reset it for them?
[18:05:14] <trev>	I've never had to do this before.. I've only created accounts and given priveleges 
[18:05:19] <^demon>	trev: There's a password reset extension to do it via the UI. If you have command line access, you can run maintenance/changePassword.php from the command line
[18:05:42] <trev>	sure.. just run this from the shell?
[18:05:57] <trev>	lemme see... 
[18:06:17] <^demon>	Yeah, php changePassword.php --user=Name --password=Test
[18:06:32] <svip>	What a lame password.
[18:08:33] <trev>	hmmm
[18:08:51] <trev>	I don't have a changePassword.php file ^demon 
[18:09:04] <^demon>	trev: You checked in your maintenance directory in the wiki root?
[18:09:10] <trev>	yeah
[18:09:18] <^demon>	What version are you running?
[18:09:26] <trev>	There's a changeuser.sql
[18:09:44] <^demon>	That's not it.
[18:11:05] <^demon>	trev: Which version of MW are you running?
[18:11:28] <Nikerabbit>	hi demon
[18:11:33] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: Hey
[18:12:07] <trev>	it's an old version from a couple years ago ^demon 
[18:12:31] <charitwo>	wat
[18:12:36] <charitwo>	you should probably upgrade
[18:12:46] <trev>	Is it simple to upgrade?
[18:12:55] <charitwo>	!upgrade
[18:12:55] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading
[18:13:00] <^demon>	Yep. Just download the latest (1.15.1), copy the files over, run update.php
[18:13:05] <charitwo>	latest stable is 1.15.1
[18:13:14] <trev>	ok. Cool, thanks.
[18:13:44] <^demon>	Another thing that's become back-burnered....fixing the change-password stuff in core.
[18:13:48] *^demon 	sighs
[18:24:07] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) "x" in search bar of Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20055 normal; Normal; Wikipedia Mobile: server; (malrase)
[18:24:47] <CIA-52>	03raymond * r54295 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (49 files): Localisation updates for core messages from translatewiki.net (2009-08-03 17:35 UTC)
[18:29:04] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Request for Extension:Collection on hr Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19013  +comment (10usuario.trece)
[18:30:12] <CIA-52>	03ashley * r54296 10/trunk/extensions/WatchSubpages/ (4 files): WatchSubpages: a bit of cleanup
[18:31:18] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Request for Extension:Collection on hr Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19013  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[18:40:47] <CIA-52>	03raymond * r54297 10/trunk/extensions/ (84 files in 77 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-08-03 18:20 UTC)
[18:45:21] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Make a book/collection doesn't work on hr wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20056 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Collection; (stem)
[18:45:27] <charitwo>	what happened to Majorly_Ugly ? :(
[18:46:44] <svip>	charitwo: He got prettier.
[18:49:44] <CIA-52>	03raymond * r54298 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.i18n.php: Follow-up r54273: Remove message what is defined twice (in CollectionCore.i18n.php too).
[18:53:04] <kibble>	Sorry for the broadcast message, but there's a Wikimedia IRC meeting about to begin in #wikimedia-irc-meetings to which all are welcome to attend, especially active and involved IRC users, please see: http://bit.ly/GCmeet
[18:54:41] <Sirisian|Work>	So exactly how old is version 1.5rc4? I don't get the version history
[18:55:24] <svip>	Sirisian|Work: Let me see.
[18:55:41] <AaronSchulz>	1.5, lol
[18:55:44] <Sirisian|Work>	Is there a page?
[18:55:59] <Sirisian|Work>	'cause it looks like the version system wrapped or something :\
[18:56:26] <AaronSchulz>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_release_history
[18:56:31] <svip>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_notes/1.5
[18:57:09] <svip>	Around 26 June, 2005, Sirisian|Work.
[18:57:14] <svip>	So in software terms; oooooold
[18:58:08] <Sirisian|Work>	has anyone explained to them that their version system makes not sense?
[18:58:26] <svip>	It doesn't?
[18:58:42] <GreenReaper>	When you say "them", you mean us, right? ;-)
[18:58:52] <Sirisian|Work>	I guess it does as long as you don't look at the decimal version as a decimal
[18:58:58] <svip>	GreenReaper: Sssh!  Don't associate yourself with them.
[18:59:14] <svip>	Sirisian|Work: The point is never a decimal pointer in version numbering.
[18:59:15] <CIA-52>	03raymond * r54299 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/CollectionCore.i18n.php: Localisation updates for extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-08-03 18:55 UTC)
[18:59:18] <GreenReaper>	"Us . . . and them . . ."
[18:59:28] <svip>	GreenReaper: Much better.
[18:59:36] <svip>	Sirisian|Work: This is standard for *all* version system.
[18:59:46] <svip>	I have never seen anyone claim otherwise.
[18:59:47] <GreenReaper>	Be glad it doesn't start with 0. ;-)
[18:59:52] <svip>	;)
[18:59:57] <GreenReaper>	But anyway, yes, 1.5 is too old.
[19:00:09] <svip>	GreenReaper: Get the jargon right; "ooooold".
[19:00:18] <GreenReaper>	You risk any number of security holes, and no cool shiny features.
[19:00:29] <Aaron_notebook>	ooo features
[19:00:33] <svip>	ooo shiny
[19:00:41] <Sirisian|Work>	They should build a system that autopatches wiki version
[19:00:51] <GreenReaper>	Again with the "they"!
[19:01:07] <Sirisian|Work>	I doubt 196 people here are all developers
[19:01:20] <svip>	Sirisian|Work: You'd be surprised. O_O
[19:01:25] <GreenReaper>	Grab the latest version, 1.15.1, and give it a whirl. Upgrading should not be too arduous even from that version, as long as you read the UPGRADE file carefully.
[19:01:42] <svip>	Automatic upgrading is a think for Wordpress.
[19:01:45] <Sirisian|Work>	nah it's someone else's wiki. Mine is the most updated
[19:01:51] <Sirisian|Work>	svip, my thoughts exactly
[19:01:59] <svip>	thing*
[19:02:05] <svip>	Yours is the most upgraded?
[19:02:07] <svip>	Damn.
[19:02:12] <svip>	Here I thought I was getting near.
[19:02:20] <GreenReaper>	Sirisian|Work: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers
[19:03:12] <Sirisian|Work>	195
[19:03:19] <Sirisian|Work>	and there are 197 people here
[19:03:35] *GreenReaper 	is here twice, to be fair.
[19:04:05] <svip>	Sirisian|Work: GreenReaper's point is that the majority in this channel is developers.
[19:04:21] <Sirisian|Work>	ah
[19:04:22] <svip>	And thus refering to them as "they" is talking to the minority, which are not responding to you anyway.
[19:05:09] <GreenReaper>	Anyway. It is a neat idea, although if you check out with SVN it's really not that hard, and I'd suggest basing any "system" on that. If you want to write one, go right ahead.
[19:05:46] <svip>	GreenReaper: Wordpress by downloading the new versions of the PHP files, then overwriting the former files.
[19:13:39] <Nikerabbit>	wassup
[19:14:26] <^demon>	Nada.
[19:15:17] <Nikerabbit>	:<
[19:16:39] <CIA-52>	03tparscal * r54300 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/js/jquery.wikiEditor.js: Fixed bug that broke select tools.
[19:16:52] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: Waiting for the workday to end :p
[19:31:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Techblog: Favicon is missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19614  (10rhalsell)
[19:38:38] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) International links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20057 enhancement; Normal; Wikipedia Mobile: server; (carl)
[19:40:35] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) International links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20057  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[19:40:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Implement a language selection drop-down into Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19834  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[19:41:48] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Implement a language selection drop-down into Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19834  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[19:44:06] <TrevorParscal>	I'm looking for the code responsible for building the table of contents boxes on articles... 
[19:44:21] <TrevorParscal>	Anyone know where that code is? (searching around)
[19:46:10] <ialex>	TrevorParscal: it should be in Linker (the one that creates the HTML)
[19:46:22] <^demon>	TrevorParscal: Parser::formatHeadings() I believe.
[19:46:26] <TrevorParscal>	ialex: thanks - looking around there
[19:47:35] <^demon>	ialex: Linker? I thought that crap was all in Parser...
[19:47:50] <ialex>	Linker::generateTOC() et al.
[19:48:04] <^demon>	Ah, there's that :)
[19:48:11] <^demon>	TrevorParscal: Ignore me :)
[19:51:41] <CIA-52>	03ialex * r54301 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Seems that I forgot to commit the RELEASE-NOTES file along with r54206 *stab self*
[19:52:13] <ialex>	100 revs in one day o_O
[19:54:25] <CIA-52>	03nikerabbit * r54302 10/trunk/extensions/WebChat/ (4 files): Eol style, fix header
[19:55:59] <CIA-52>	03purodha * r54303 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.settings.i18n.php: 
[19:55:59] <CIA-52>	Consistent capitalization of names as hinted by EugeneZelenko at
[19:55:59] <CIA-52>	http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Support&oldid=1344614#Configure-setting-wgBrowserBlackList
[19:55:59] <CIA-52>	http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Support&oldid=1344614#Configure-setting-wgMaxShellTime
[19:57:48] <CIA-52>	03ialex * r54304 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryTags.php: fix for r54291: missing ending $ in $Id$
[19:59:42] <CIA-52>	03raymond * r54305 10/trunk/extensions/WikiAtHome/ (10 files): eol-style:native
[20:00:04] <svip>	o_O What is the function that builds links?
[20:00:10] <svip>	I am working on paging for RC.
[20:00:21] <svip>	And the next link should include all the parameters already set.
[20:00:42] <svip>	Well, so should the previous link, but let's start somewhere.
[20:02:27] <ialex>	svip: a bit in SpecialRecentchanges.php and a bit in ChangesList.php
[20:02:38] <svip>	o_o
[20:02:46] <svip>	Can't I just use the same sanity in the doHeader?
[20:04:24] <svip>	I guess not.
[20:08:43] <CIA-52>	03dale * r54306 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/includes/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * fixed some warnings and notices in sequence code
[20:12:24] <CIA-52>	03raymond * r54307 10/trunk/extensions/ (WebChat/WebChat.i18n.php WikiAtHome/WikiAtHome.i18n.php): Localisation updates for extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-08-03 20:00 UTC)
[20:20:03] <CIA-52>	03ialex * r54308 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/deleteRevision.php: removed double "@ingroup Maintenance"
[20:22:31] <svip>	ialex: How do I make a simple query that checks what the newest rc_id is?
[20:23:46] <Spedia>	hello everyone
[20:25:42] <svip>	o_o Or anyone else.
[20:25:45] <svip>	Like Simetrical.
[20:26:12] <^demon>	select rc_id from recentchanges order by rc_id desc limit 1;
[20:26:23] <svip>	But $dbr->query() or what?
[20:26:26] <svip>	I know the SQL.
[20:26:35] <svip>	I am not familiar with the MediaWiki interface to SQL.
[20:27:28] <ialex>	$dbr->selectRow( 'MAX(rc_id)', 'recentchanges', array(), __METHOD__ );
[20:27:38] <^demon>	svip: ^ That's better
[20:27:59] <ialex>	or 'recentchanges', 'MAX(rc_id)'
[20:28:07] <svip>	ialex: And that returns an object or the value?
[20:28:13] *ialex 	doesn't know
[20:28:27] <ialex>	svip: it returns the number directly
[20:29:22] <^demon>	selectRow() should return that row object.
[20:29:48] <ialex>	oops
[20:29:50] <svip>	So what?  $sql->rc_id or $sql['rc_id']?
[20:29:59] <^demon>	$sql->rc_id
[20:30:10] <^demon>	row results are objects :)
[20:30:20] <ialex>	$dbr->selectField( 'recentchanges', 'MAX(rc_id)', array(), __METHOD__ );
[20:31:36] <svip>	^demon: Yes, but in my experience MAX(rc_id) usually does not become 'rc_id'.
[20:33:27] <svip>	Adding " AS rc_id" does not work.
[20:33:33] <svip>	Get strange MySQL syntax error.
[20:33:56] <svip>	Hm.
[20:33:58] <svip>	Wait, not anymore.
[20:36:54] <svip>	Woo!
[20:36:55] <svip>	it works.
[20:37:00] <svip>	Man.
[20:37:03] <svip>	I should get a nobel price.
[20:37:10] <svip>	Or something
[20:38:04] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) importImages.php doesn't find images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19448  +comment (10seth)
[20:44:11] <svip>	Nikerabbit: You wanted RC paging?
[20:48:12] <CIA-52>	03dale * r54310 10/trunk/extensions/ExternalData/ (ED_Utils.php ExternalData.php): simple addition of $edgCacheExpireTime to external data url cache
[20:48:36] <svip>	If I could commit to trunk, I would so have your RC paging ready.
[20:49:09] <^demon|away>	svip: Post a patch somewhere?
[20:49:18] <svip>	I guess that's what I am gonna do.
[20:49:55] <TheOracle23>	O_O
[20:50:05] <svip>	^demon|away: http://pastebin.ca/1517178
[20:50:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Local links in CentralNotice broken on secure.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18977  (10rohde)
[20:50:53] <TheOracle23>	I'm using http://min.ie/1Am to close up my wiki, but its not working at all. Please help?
[20:51:01] <TheOracle23>	Using 1.15.1
[20:51:46] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Add option for editors in preferences to always show diff to latest flagged revision - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20058 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (pbirken)
[20:54:33] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Preventing access won't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20059 major; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (seth)
[20:55:56] <svip>	^demon|away: http://dev.sviip.dk/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&limit=2
[20:56:03] <svip>	Here is an example of it in the works.
[20:56:18] <svip>	Unfortunately, the DNS may not be up for dev.sviip.dk
[20:56:27] <^demon|away>	Yeah it's dying on my end.
[20:56:32] <svip>	So, if you can be bothered you can add it to your hosts file.
[20:56:41] <^demon|away>	I have to head home actually. Ping me later when I'm on.
[20:56:47] <svip>	Okay.
[20:56:50] <svip>	I'll wait then.
[20:56:54] <svip>	DNS may be up then anyway.
[21:02:44] <Annemarie>	roberthl: Would I know you under a different nick or handle?
[21:02:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Preventing access won't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20059  (10seth)
[21:02:55] <Annemarie>	You seem to have appeared from thin air...
[21:03:27] <roberthl>	Annemarie: minuteelectron
[21:03:37] <Annemarie>	Ahhh.
[21:03:40] <Annemarie>	That's right. Okay. :-)
[21:03:43] <roberthl>	:)
[21:04:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Preventing access won't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20059  +comment (10svippy)
[21:09:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Preventing access won't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20059  (10seth)
[21:10:36] <CIA-52>	03tparscal * r54311 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/js/jquery.wikiEditor.js: Fixed bug that caused TOC lists to render differently in the editor than the rendered page output. This code is based on Linker::generateTOC so the behavior should be identical.
[21:12:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Preventing access won't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20059  (10svippy)
[21:14:04] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Preventing access won't work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20059  +comment (10seth)
[21:27:35] <svip>	o_o
[21:27:38] <svip>	Nobody here?
[21:27:43] <svip>	ialex: You there?
[21:27:44] <Annemarie>	Not a soul.
[21:27:49] <svip>	Dang.
[21:29:17] <svip>	Hello, FunPika.
[21:29:51] <svip>	FunPika: Why should I pick yourwiki over Wikia?
[21:29:52] <svip>	Sell me.
[21:30:07] <svip>	You suck at selling me!
[21:30:14] <ialex>	pong
[21:30:15] <svip>	I am never using yourwiki!
[21:30:26] <svip>	ialex: http://pastebin.ca/1517207
[21:30:28] *GreenReaper 	would find it hard to even give you away.
[21:30:56] <svip>	GreenReaper: Very funny.  Now tell me why yourwiki is better than Wikia.
[21:31:11] <GreenReaper>	Define "yourwiki"?
[21:31:18] <svip>	It's a wikifarm.
[21:31:40] <GreenReaper>	Not having used it, I cannot advise on the comparative benefits.
[21:31:47] <svip>	Dang.
[21:31:56] <svip>	Would you recommend anything?
[21:32:06] <GreenReaper>	Host your own damn wiki. ;-)
[21:32:21] <svip>	Woo!
[21:32:25] <svip>	That's the spirit.
[21:32:57] <GreenReaper>	(one year, eleven languages, and a pool wiki later . . .)
[21:33:07] <TheOracle23>	btw ty svip on my bug
[21:33:15] <svip>	TheOracle23: No problem.
[21:34:14] <svip>	GreenReaper: What do you host?
[21:34:20] <svip>	Your affiliate says Wikia.
[21:35:02] <GreenReaper>	That cloak is getting a little tattered. I've tried getting a new one, but Freenode never did get around to making the wikifur one.
[21:35:27] <svip>	Oh right.
[21:35:29] <svip>	Wikifur.
[21:35:31] <svip>	Best damn wiki.
[21:35:39] <GreenReaper>	See wikifur.com. English is currently hosted on Wikia, but not for long. Swedish and Finnish are hosted on their own sites. All others are self-hosted.
[21:36:39] <svip>	GreenReaper: Isn't "hosted on their own sites" the same as "self-hosted"?
[21:36:45] <GreenReaper>	We face similar problems to Wikipedia with respect to the relative activity of foreign languages, though Russian site is actually pretty active.
[21:37:01] <GreenReaper>	Well, I was referring to wikifur.com as the "self" there. :-)
[21:37:09] <GreenReaper>	"are hosted on wikifur.com"
[21:37:13] <svip>	GreenReaper: Tell me about it.
[21:37:14] <svip>	Ah.
[21:37:36] *GreenReaper 	will show you an ainmation instead: http://stats.wikifur.com/animation/
[21:37:37] <svip>	We have three foreign versions that aren't exactly active.
[21:38:26] <GreenReaper>	The sizes of the other languages are unfortunately quite small, reflecting their relative lack of activity. 
[21:38:33] <svip>	o_o It is amazing hows low my machine si.
[21:38:50] <svip>	how slow*
[21:38:55] <GreenReaper>	That animation is a killer, gotta say. If you try the Wikipedia version it dies halfway through.
[21:39:34] <svip>	ialex: Did you see my patch?
[21:41:06] <svip>	GreenReaper: How do you feel about Wikia, though?
[21:43:25] <GreenReaper>	I feel they offer a good solution for certain user scenarios. WikiFur's goals and needs have diverged from theirs over time, which is why we are moving.
[21:45:16] <svip>	Hm.
[21:48:26] <svip>	^demon: Woo.
[21:50:19] <OverlordQ>	\o/ new major PG release, dont think anything broke this time
[21:50:36] <^demon>	Yay
[21:51:15] <OverlordQ>	atleast nothing I've noticed so far
[21:53:51] <ialex>	svip: was doing something else
[21:54:28] <svip>	ialex: Crazy.
[21:54:42] <svip>	^demon: ialex: http://pastebin.ca/1517207
[21:54:44] <svip>	My patch!
[21:54:57] <^demon>	Give me a minute, I'm applying a few other patches.
[21:55:04] <svip>	o_o You got it.
[21:55:23] <ialex>	svip: and now it's bed time
[21:56:57] <CIA-52>	03demon * r54312 10/trunk/phase3/ (99 files in 2 dirs): Revert r54244 which was stupid and fix this properly. Require commandLine.inc/Maintenance.php using the full path every time.
[21:57:24] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: Whoo done.
[21:57:51] <svip>	Whoo
[21:58:13] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) MediaWiki needs better throttling for expensive queries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18489  15enhancement->minor; summary; +comment (10public)
[21:58:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) MediaWiki needs better throttling for expensive queries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18489  (10public)
[21:59:02] <Annemarie>	wikibugs seems a bit slow.
[21:59:50] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) require commandLine.inc/Maintenance.php properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18855  summary; +comment (10innocentkiller)
[22:00:02] <CIA-52>	03demon * r54313 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (importLogs.inc importLogs.php): RIP importLogs. Ancient, un-needed and probably never worked outside WMF anyway :)
[22:00:58] <^demon>	svip: You didn't use IndexPager?
[22:01:10] <svip>	^demon: Damn.  I forgot.
[22:01:21] <svip>	You totally said that yesterday.
[22:01:29] <^demon>	Simetrical did, but yeah :p
[22:01:33] <svip>	Right.
[22:01:39] <svip>	I am going to look up on how to work it.
[22:01:42] <svip>	Then provide you a diff then.
[22:02:16] <svip>	Where is it located?
[22:03:41] <^demon>	includes/Pager.php
[22:03:49] <^demon>	Pager interface, IndexPager abstract class.
[22:05:08] <svip>	Hm.
[22:05:10] <svip>	How do I use it?
[22:05:17] <CIA-52>	03demon * r54314 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (archives/populateSha1.php populateSha1.php): Move populateSha1.php up from archives into maintenance root (nothing calls this automatically, so it shouldn't break anything)
[22:05:21] <^demon>	Make a class that extends IndexPager.
[22:05:37] <^demon>	Like RecentChangesPager or something.
[22:05:37] <svip>	Inside my page Navigation function?
[22:06:18] <svip>	Blah.
[22:06:21] <svip>	It worked fine before.
[22:06:31] <svip>	Now I am just going to get it all complicated up in an interface I don't know.
[22:12:59] <CIA-52>	03purodha * r54309 10/trunk/extensions/IndexFunction/IndexFunction.i18n.php: typo in message text.
[22:19:17] <Ose_>	trying to set up mediawiki, it keeps saying 'check username and password' (under the database config header), why?
[22:25:04] *Ose_ 	pokes #mediawiki
[22:25:06] <CIA-52>	03jeroendedauw * r54315 10/trunk/extensions/Maps/ (Maps.php Maps_BaseMap.php Maps_MapFeature.php): Refactoring for 0.3
[22:25:26] <CIA-52>	03jeroendedauw * r54316 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMaps/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Refactoring for 0.3
[22:28:25] <CIA-52>	03brion * r54317 10/trunk/tools/checkin-test-trigger/ (. Subversion.php config.php index.php runQueue.php): first draft commit queue test runner thingy
[22:30:09] <^demon>	brion: Will this make the tests faster?
[22:30:22] <brion>	^demon: no, but it'll make them run sooner
[22:30:25] <brion>	latency not speed ;)
[22:30:43] <brion>	eg, automatically instead of when i go in and run them 
[22:30:46] <^demon>	I kinda meant that.
[22:30:49] <Annemarie>	Anyone wanna take bets on whether {{localurl:}} works with CentralNotice?
[22:30:50] <brion>	:)
[22:31:00] <brion>	Annemarie: it doesn't
[22:31:01] <^demon>	Annemarie: I'm not taking that bet.
[22:31:09] <Annemarie>	Ilmari thought it might.
[22:31:09] <brion>	at least... not in a way that's reliable or useful :)
[22:31:24] <Annemarie>	You saw the secure server Board vote link is broken?
[22:31:34] <brion>	it'll look like it's ok until you pop onto the secure server where paths are different
[22:31:35] <Annemarie>	Maybe a live hack to redirect would be appropriate at least temporarily?
[22:31:49] <Annemarie>	https://secure.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:SecurePoll/vote/17 is kinda nasty.
[22:32:01] <brion>	then don't put wrong things in your notices
[22:32:06] <CIA-52>	03demon * r54318 10/trunk/phase3/ (CREDITS RELEASE-NOTES docs/hooks.txt includes/Wiki.php): (bug 15209) New hook right after initialization
[22:32:23] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) New hook right after initialization - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15209  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[22:33:05] <brion>	for the moment you could put some godawful JS into the notice to swap the URL, i suppose
[22:33:12] <brion>	or... use an absolute url to begin with?
[22:33:25] <TheOracle23>	Hmm...
[22:33:31] <TheOracle23>	$wgPhpCliPath would be useful for me :D
[22:33:40] <TheOracle23>	can't wait til 1.16.0 now
[22:34:43] <Platonides>	https://secure.wikimedia.org/wiki/ could make a redirect based on your referer
[22:34:55] <Platonides>	ugly, but many more urls would work
[22:35:07] <^demon>	1.16 is going to be freakin' awesome.
[22:35:42] <^demon>	We2 branches merged since we branched 1.15
[22:35:47] <^demon>	*We've had
[22:38:18] <TheOracle23>	Yes. Awesome indeed.
[22:38:44] <TheOracle23>	I suppose once I upgrade to 1.16 I'll start using a local cache aswell
[22:39:29] <TheOracle23>	$wgSpecialVersionExtended will also be helpful
[22:40:09] <Ose_>	uhm, anyone using mediawiki on ubuntu here?
[22:40:34] <brion>	Ose_: regular mediawiki on ubuntu, or ubuntu package of mediawiki?
[22:40:47] <Ose_>	err....
[22:41:00] <Ose_>	regular mediawiki I think?
[22:41:27] <Ose_>	my problem is, it won't let me use the wiki before I move a file, but ubuntu won't let me move said file
[22:42:07] <brion>	what are you doing and what happens?
[22:42:25] <Ose_>	installing mediawiki duh
[22:42:28] <Ose_>	'Installation successful! Move /var/lib/mediawiki/config/LocalSettings.php to /etc/mediawiki, then follow  this link to your wiki.'
[22:42:51] <brion>	we never use that path, must be the customized package
[22:42:57] <Ose_>	oh, ok
[22:43:20] <Ose_>	i'll ask in #ubuntu then
[22:43:49] <brion>	good luck :)
[22:44:00] <brion>	but you might start just by moving it as root
[22:44:10] <brion>	on account /etc being root-only-editable?
[22:44:10] <CIA-52>	03jeroendedauw * r54319 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMaps/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Refactoring for 0.3
[22:44:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) SVG image should have link to PNG version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6834  (10Platonides)
[22:46:47] <obisan>	Hello!
[22:49:00] <Simetrical>	svip, your patch has been unexpectedly controversial.
[22:49:02] <Platonides>	hello obisan
[22:49:26] <obisan>	I seem to have a problem with installing mediawiki 1.9.3 with easyPHP 3.1 on windows xp home. For some reason I get namespace error.
[22:49:49] <brion>	obisan: why are you installing 1.9.3? that's a very old version
[22:49:50] <^demon>	obisan: 1.9.3 is really outdated, try downloading 1.15.1
[22:50:04] <obisan>	i tried to solve it by searching some support from google but it didn't much work as all the responses were in chinese :P
[22:50:34] <^demon>	That was probably before we renamed Namespace to MWNamespace and easyPHP is probably on 5.3
[22:51:31] <obisan>	okay, what version do you recommend?
[22:51:39] <^demon>	1.15.1 is the latest stable version
[22:51:58] *brion 	points at the channel topic which contains this information
[22:53:20] <Platonides>	obisan, where did you download mediawiki 1.9.3 from?
[22:53:40] <Platonides>	we should put a big notice there saying 'This is not the latest version!"
[22:54:45] <obisan>	http://sunet.dl.sourceforge.net/project/wikipedia/MediaWiki%20stable%20release/MediaWiki%201.9.3/mediawiki-1.9.3.tar.gz
[22:54:54] <TheOracle23>	O_O
[22:55:19] <TheOracle23>	Wow. MediaWiki from SourceForge.
[22:55:24] <obisan>	or you mean the page where I got the link?
[22:55:26] <TheOracle23>	Talk about blast from the past.
[22:56:08] <svip>	Simetrical: Hm?
[22:56:12] <CIA-52>	03brion * r54320 10/trunk/tools/checkin-test-trigger/ (config.php runQueue.php): fixups
[22:57:09] <Platonides>	brion, post on http://sourceforge.net/projects/wikipedia/ redirecting the people to www.mediawiki.org :P
[22:58:56] <brion>	ugh, that should have been done a couple years ago :D
[22:59:04] <brion>	will poke it in a bit
[22:59:41] <Platonides>	wikipedia.sourceforge.net is indeed a redirect
[23:00:03] <Platonides>	but people can view that old list of releases at http://sourceforge.net/projects/wikipedia/
[23:00:21] <CIA-52>	03brion * r54321 10/trunk/tools/checkin-test-trigger/runQueue.php: woops
[23:00:43] <CIA-52>	03tparscal * r54322 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/css/ (combined.css combined.min.css wikiEditor.css): Fixed spacing problem in TOC lists.
[23:01:03] <obisan>	thank you! New version did the magic :D
[23:01:15] <TheOracle23>	bbl
[23:02:08] <^demon>	You know, I think I'm going to move patch application straight to DatabaseBase. It makes more sense to just do $dbw->applyPatch( $patch ) rather than $dbw->sourceFile( archive( $patch ) );
[23:03:00] <^demon>	And it removes the completely unnecessary requirement to load up updaters.inc just to apply a patch
[23:05:04] <svip>	Simetrical: What controversy?
[23:05:08] <svip>	I am not seeing anything.
[23:07:48] <CIA-52>	03jeroendedauw * r54323 10/trunk/extensions/Maps/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Refactoring for 0.3
[23:08:24] <CIA-52>	03jeroendedauw * r54324 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMaps/ (7 files in 4 dirs): Refactoring for 0.3
[23:23:49] <CIA-52>	03tparscal * r54325 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (29 files in 5 dirs): Reorganized the scripts in a way that makes JS2 integration a bit cleaner (especially by not including jQuery twice)
[23:27:06] <obisan>	is it possible to mirror wiki database between live and offline version?
[23:27:27] <obisan>	or is it about mirroring the mysql databases?
[23:30:39] <csar>	hi, i've been downloading wikipedia dumps for more than a year now and tried to import the newest one today and xml2sql failed because of a new "<redirect />" tag but i couldn't find anything about it online. the dump from early july worked for me but the newest one doesn't. does anyone know what changed? i read the meta:Data_dumps page but no luck
[23:31:53] <brion>	csar: ^ tomaszf 
[23:32:11] <tomaszf>	hey csar
[23:32:26] <csar>	tomaszf: hi!
[23:32:44] <tomaszf>	I mailed out to xmldatadumps-l@ about this .. http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/xmldatadumps-l/2009-July/000019.html
[23:32:56] *tomaszf 	should update the meta page too :)
[23:36:07] <brion>	TrevorParscal: could you update release-notes and mark the bug fixed for the opera workaround? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/54109#c3371
[23:36:08] <brion>	thx
[23:37:22] <Simetrical>	svip, some people got annoyed at parts of it.
[23:38:06] <svip>	Simetrical: What people!?
[23:38:23] <Simetrical>	svip, on Code Review.
[23:38:30] <svip>	Pfft.
[23:38:32] <svip>	Only one guy.
[23:40:12] <Eitan_Perkal>	hey
[23:40:51] <svip>	Simetrical: Is there an example or guide about how to use IndexPager?
[23:40:57] <Eitan_Perkal>	hey everybody, its my first time here and i need some help  please
[23:41:16] <Simetrical>	svip, look at some other places that use it.
[23:41:25] <Simetrical>	!ask | Eitan_Perkal 
[23:41:25] --mwbot--	Eitan_Perkal: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. See also: !gethelp
[23:41:44] <svip>	I was hoping for a quick reference to one of those.
[23:42:24] <Simetrical>	svip, grep -R IndexPager .
[23:43:00] <svip>	Blah.
[23:43:03] <svip>	grep is slow.
[23:43:18] <Simetrical>	Only if your computer is slow.
[23:43:32] <Simetrical>	It's faster than asking me and having me do a grep and get back to you.  :)
[23:43:33] <CIA-52>	03tparscal * r54326 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Added release notes for changes in r54109 - a fix to bug #18497 which caused pages in Opera in fullscreen mode to not use any style sheets.
[23:43:55] <svip>	Opera is silly.
[23:44:06] <Simetrical>	Porting RC to IndexPager will be a big job.  You'll have to take into account all sorts of things like the JavaScript-enhanced version and so on.
[23:44:21] <svip>	Really?
[23:44:25] <Simetrical>	Well, I guess you could subclass it to not change the HTML output too much.
[23:44:29] <svip>	It worked fine without thinking about it.
[23:44:34] <Simetrical>	I dunno, try it and see.  :)
[23:44:53] <CIA-52>	03tparscal * r54327 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Fixed release note added in r54326 which was in the wrong section.
[23:44:58] <Eitan_Perkal>	OK, i want to build a few projects of wiki, but i want that the users will register once. how i make cooperative 'USER' table?
[23:45:08] <svip>	Simetrical: http://dev.sviip.dk/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&limit=2
[23:45:45] <Simetrical>	Looks good.
[23:45:49] <Simetrical>	At a quick glance.
[23:46:02] <svip>	But that is without the IndexPager.
[23:46:20] <svip>	o_O I am afraid IndexPager may just complicate things.
[23:46:21] <Simetrical>	IndexPager adds lots of features, like automatic next/forward, reverse pagination, and so on.
[23:46:31] <Simetrical>	It will make it more consistent and featureful, theoretically.
[23:46:32] <svip>	o_o
[23:46:36] <Simetrical>	It's not too hard to use.
[23:46:36] <brion>	awwwww yeah
[23:46:39] <brion>	parser tests actually ran :D
[23:46:40] <Simetrical>	For simple cases.
[23:47:01] <svip>	:[ Blah.
[23:47:03] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) No skin used for Opera fullscreen (uses CSS 'projection' media type instead of 'screen') - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18497  +comment (10tparscal)
[23:47:06] <svip>	I am not gonna continue on that tonight.
[23:47:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Files with hash of an old version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17070  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[23:47:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Images with wrong SHA1 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17057  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[23:47:47] *^demon 	kicks CIA-52
[23:47:47] <CIA-52>	ow
[23:48:09] <Simetrical>	svip, look at SpecialIpblocklist.php for a simple use of ReverseChronologicalPager.
[23:48:28] <svip>	Tomorrow.
[23:49:04] *GreenReaper 	ponders the SQL error you get there when modifying rcid to a non-numeric
[23:49:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) No skin used for Opera fullscreen (uses CSS 'projection' media type instead of 'screen') - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18497  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[23:49:39] <brion>	GreenReaper: url?
[23:49:42] <svip>	GreenReaper: Blah.
[23:50:10] <svip>	brion: He is just pointing out a massive security flaw in my code.
[23:50:12] <Simetrical>	svip, how does your current hack interact with enhanced RC?
[23:50:27] <Simetrical>	brion, it's not committed or even submitted, don't worry.  :)
[23:50:35] <svip>	Simetrical: o_o Not really.  In fact, with enhanced RC, it just group the current edits.
[23:50:50] <brion>	\o/
[23:50:51] <svip>	That are between the beginning and the end.
[23:50:53] <Simetrical>	brion, what did David Storey say?  Interpreting projection as referring to full-screen is just batty.
[23:50:55] <svip>	Simetrical: It works.
[23:51:08] <brion>	"As per CSS spec, Opera uses projection media type for full screen.  Wikipedia just uses screen, so there are no styles set for projection. "
[23:51:09] <svip>	Batty?
[23:51:31] <brion>	i told him we disagree, my reading of css2 spec is very clear that this is wildly inappropriate :)
[23:52:37] <GreenReaper>	That is silly. Full screen is still screen.
[23:52:42] <Simetrical>	brion, I'll e-mail him for clarification.
[23:52:50] <brion>	feel free Simetrical :)
[23:53:06] <brion>	need his email or got it alredy?
[23:53:37] <Simetrical>	Don't have it offhand, no.
[23:53:51] <CIA-52>	03jeroendedauw * r54329 10/trunk/extensions/Maps/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Refactoring for 0.3
[23:54:18] <CIA-52>	03jeroendedauw * r54330 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMaps/SemanticMaps.php: Refactoring for 0.3
[23:54:23] <Simetrical>	brion, hard to guess, that.
[23:54:28] <^demon>	SVN is really laggy :-\
[23:54:28] <brion>	:)
[23:54:41] <Simetrical>	Oh, turns out I had his e-mail after all.
[23:54:47] <Simetrical>	Probably he posted to some list I'm on.
[23:57:12] <CIA-52>	03demon * r54331 10/trunk/android-client/: Nothing here even worth salvaging.