[00:01:53] <roberthl>	werdna: FYI: Warning: AutoLoader::require(/var/www/w/extensions/LiquidThreads//classes/Hooks.php) [autoloader.require]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /var/www/w/includes/AutoLoader.php on line 662
[00:02:27] <JNSamuel>	double //
[00:02:46] <roberthl>	No, that's not the issue.
[00:03:07] <JNSamuel>	that would cause php not to find the file
[00:03:38] <roberthl>	The file doesn't exist in the first place so PHP wouldn't find it anyway.
[00:03:45] <roberthl>	I assume it's just a missed svn add.
[00:03:54] <roberthl>	Was quite a large refactor.
[00:04:14] <CIA-52>	03tparscal * r54332 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/EditToolbar.i18n.php: Fixed image location in response to moving of images in r54130.
[00:04:53] <roberthl>	Also, double slashes work fine in PHP IME.
[00:07:14] <JNSamuel>	no they dont :P
[00:07:28] <JNSamuel>	they've tried to fix it so it would work, no luck
[00:08:58] <p858snake>	brion: someone replied to #20028 which is a bug you closed/duped down they apprently want it reopen or something, not paying that much attention to it
[00:10:26] <CIA-52>	03demon * r54333 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/LiquidThreads.php: Clean up paths.
[00:11:22] <brion>	thx
[00:11:24] <^demon>	roberthl/JNSamuel: I cleaned up the paths. Not sure what to do for Hooks though.
[00:11:25] <brion>	will poke laters
[00:11:27] <brion>	byeeee
[00:19:08] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Mark several edits as patrolled when viewing diffs between several edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20060 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (svippy)
[00:20:01] <erikvvold>	hello, I'm having trouble installing mediawiki, it's crashing apache and I am having trouble figuring out why..
[00:20:35] <svip>	Checked the error log?
[00:21:11] <erikvvold>	yeah I've checked the apache error log
[00:21:22] <erikvvold>	not sure what to make of it though
[00:21:37] <erikvvold>	I get a php warning that two dll'
[00:21:55] <erikvvold>	s are not loading php_curl.dll and php_mssql.dll
[00:22:11] <erikvvold>	the during the mediawiki install:
[00:22:42] <erikvvold>	I get [notice] Child 5508: Child process is running
[00:22:56] <erikvvold>	[notice] Child 5508: Acquiring the start mutex
[00:23:08] <erikvvold>	[notice] Child 5508: Starting 64 working threads
[00:23:21] <erikvvold>	[notice] Child 5508: Starting thread to listen to port 80
[00:24:10] <erikvvold>	[notice] Child 5508: All worker threads have exited
[00:24:11] <CIA-52>	03demon * r54334 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/Maintenance.php: Followup r54328: Would've helped to commit this
[00:24:19] <erikvvold>	and this is where it crashes
[00:24:31] <erikvvold>	apache crashes, so it may not record the error
[00:25:51] <^demon>	Hehe, brion's code tests thingie uses the Ajax loader graphic but it's not actually Ajax. You have to refresh for the test results to appear.
[00:27:18] <erikvvold>	anyone have any idea what could be wrong?
[00:28:35] <CIA-52>	03simetrical * r54335 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
[00:28:35] <CIA-52>	Show change flag tooltips everywhere, not just RC
[00:28:35] <CIA-52>	Follow-up to r54242. Pointed out by Umherirrender on CodeReview.
[00:37:20] <ekimmargni>	^demon: no wonder it wasn't appearing after I waited :D
[00:39:04] <^demon>	ekimmargni: What were we talking about again?
[00:39:19] <ekimmargni>	ajax-that's-not-really-ajax
[00:44:46] <^demon>	Oh yeah.
[00:44:49] <^demon>	Heh
[00:49:03] <CIA-52>	03simetrical * r54336 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 4 dirs): 
[00:49:03] <CIA-52>	Only show useful info in RC legend
[00:49:03] <CIA-52>	This splits up the message recentchanges-label-legend so that pieces of
[00:49:03] <CIA-52>	it can be provided only when they're relevant, and more can be added
[00:49:03] <CIA-52>	later. Any existing translations will need to be retranslated, but it's
[00:49:03] <CIA-52>	only been a day, so creating a new message name seemed like overkill.
[00:49:07] <CIA-52>	Follow-up to r54242.
[00:51:04] <CIA-52>	03simetrical * r54337 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialRecentchanges.php: 
[00:51:04] <CIA-52>	Add wrapper div for RC label legend
[00:51:04] <CIA-52>	By request of Umherirrender on CodeReview for r54242.
[01:02:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Cross-domain AJAX request support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19907  +comment (10oq9pscb02)
[01:05:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Cross-domain AJAX request support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19907  (10mike.lifeguard)
[01:19:03] <Alphos>	is there a magic word to get the current user's nickname/userpage ? i mean the one currently looking at the page
[01:19:23] <OverlordQ>	afaik no
[01:19:24] <Alphos>	i remember reading there is none, but can't find where...
[01:19:29] <^demon>	No.
[01:20:00] <OverlordQ>	you can cheat if you want their userpage by linking to [[Special:MyPage]] or w/e
[01:20:05] <Alphos>	i guess there is with js (from the links at the top) but that's a long shot...
[01:20:22] <Alphos>	is it possible to link to a subpage of [[Special:Mypage]] ?
[01:20:33] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Redirects from sr.wikimedia.org needed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20061 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Interwiki links; (millosh)
[01:20:38] <Alphos>	(as a subpage of the user page, i mean)
[01:21:27] <OverlordQ>	yes
[01:21:33] <Alphos>	ooh, great :)
[01:21:38] <Alphos>	thanks :)
[01:25:26] <p858snake>	Alphos: a magic word for current user would break the cache
[01:25:42] <Alphos>	yeah, that's what i figured out
[02:09:21] <CIA-52>	03demon * r54328 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/populateSha1.php: 
[02:09:21] <CIA-52>	* Port populateSha1 to new code style
[02:09:21] <CIA-52>	* For bug 17057/17070, can now run this on and individual file to fix the img_sha1 column if it's wrong
[02:09:21] <CIA-52>	* Alpha sort the params in help mode
[02:12:12] <uberfuzzy>	hmm, will that script fix the column on old versions, or just the current one ?
[02:12:20] <uberfuzzy>	old versions of the image
[02:19:29] <CIA-52>	03shinjiman * r54338 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (5 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Literary Chinese
[02:32:38] <^demon|away>	uberfuzzy: That script has only worked on the image table. It would need some other changes to work on filearchive too.
[02:47:53] <CIA-52>	03demon * r54339 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 3 dirs): (bug 16084) Default memory limit should be increased
[02:48:22] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Default memory limit should be increased - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16084  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[02:50:00] <CIA-52>	03dale * r54340 10/trunk/extensions/WikiAtHome/ (6 files): 
[02:50:00] <CIA-52>	* basic working command line client for server side transcoding from the jobs table (internalCmdLineEncoder.php)
[02:50:00] <CIA-52>	* associated api changes and language updates
[02:50:00] <CIA-52>	* config mapping for firefogg to fffmpeg2theora
[02:50:00] <CIA-52>	* added config for sequence flattening and associated abstractions
[02:52:39] <Sirisian>	Is there a way to have page like linked? I have this page on my wiki and I want to link to pages with a lot of source code. Should I just make them separate pages like ArticleName_CSharp_Code or is there a simplified way to handling this situation?
[03:13:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) php error in LinkHolderArray - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20036  (10tstarling)
[03:14:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Default memory limit should be increased - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16084  (10overlordq)
[03:15:23] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Default memory limit should be increased - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16084  (10overlordq)
[03:24:23] <Emufarmers>	OverlordQ: I'll give you $10 if you can find someone who actually specifies their memory limit using something other than M. :p
[03:24:40] <OverlordQ>	if somebody puts in 1G
[03:24:43] <apergos>	G? :-P
[03:24:47] <apergos>	there, ya see 
[03:24:57] <OverlordQ>	it's decrease their limit down to 50 megs
[03:25:01] <OverlordQ>	*it'll
[03:25:26] <Emufarmers>	Why would anybody do that? :\  For the CLI, I could see...
[03:26:55] <OverlordQ>	well say they specifcy it in kb instead of mb :)
[03:27:13] <apergos>	ok, who would do that? 
[03:27:16] <apergos>	( :-P ) 
[03:27:21] <Emufarmers>	:D
[03:27:31] <p858snake>	that question applies to many of the bugs here >.>
[03:27:32] *OverlordQ 	. . . to break it :P
[03:27:43] <apergos>	I could see puttin in 1G just to not have to fool with it again
[03:28:04] <apergos>	not that I would, but I could see someone using that logic
[03:28:09] <Emufarmers>	fair enough
[03:29:48] <CIA-52>	03laner * r54341 10/trunk/extensions/ExternalData/ExternalData.php: Fixing syntax error.
[03:37:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Local links in CentralNotice broken on secure.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18977  +comment (10public)
[03:47:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Local links in CentralNotice broken on secure.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18977  (10rohde)
[04:09:23] <CIA-52>	03laner * r54342 10/trunk/extensions/ExternalData/ (ED_Utils.php ExternalData.i18n.php): Adding internationalization for error messages.
[04:36:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Local links in CentralNotice broken on secure.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18977  +comment (10cbrown1023)
[04:37:45] <Sirisian>	"WARNING: This page is 77 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections." What's a section?
[04:37:53] <Sirisian>	Is that a special kind of page?
[04:38:19] <Prodego>	Sirisian: it just is telling you the page is very long
[04:38:53] <Sirisian>	well yeah. I broke it into 2 pages since I was pasting a lot of code into a wiki. So when they say section they just mean another page?
[04:42:02] <GreenReaper>	Actually they do mean sections.
[04:42:20] <GreenReaper>	It was a common method of getting around browser limits - to make separate sections that could be edited separately, under 32kb in size.
[04:42:35] <GreenReaper>	Of course it kind sucked for whoever had to edit the lede. ;-)
[04:42:59] <GreenReaper>	Nowadays you shouldn't have to worry about it, though.
[04:45:02] <p858snake>	theres a gadget for people that had problems with the leads that gives it, it's own edit button
[04:45:17] <Sirisian>	GreenReaper, is a section another page? I have an article on a wiki and I have code, but the code is long and I don't want to destroy the scrollbar. So is there something other than another page? I don't see anything about sections.
[04:45:25] <OverlordQ>	you haven't fixed that one yet GreenReaper, that's like so many extra KB per edit :P
[04:45:46] <GreenReaper>	No, a section is a . . . section. You make a new section when you add a header.
[04:45:59] <GreenReaper>	Everything under that header, to the next header of the same level or hgiher, is a section.
[04:46:06] <Sirisian>	section is the === Foo === stuff?
[04:46:08] <GreenReaper>	You don't need to worry about it.
[04:46:09] <Sirisian>	I think
[04:46:21] <GreenReaper>	It is a message that has mostly outlived its usefulness and should really be toned down.
[04:46:46] <Sirisian>	oh, but if I wanted to separate 2 pages is there a clean way to do that?
[04:46:58] <Sirisian>	That would be cool if articles supported "tabs"
[04:47:16] <Sirisian>	I mean the pages
[04:57:31] <CIA-52>	03vrandezo * r54343 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (SMW_QueryProcessor.php SMW_Settings.php): 
[04:57:31] <CIA-52>	Added the possibility to dynamically change the store with a parameter in the query, i.e. by adding e.g.
[04:57:31] <CIA-52>	| source=sparql
[04:57:31] <CIA-52>	to the query. Then another store will be used to answer the query, but the normal renderers still apply.
[05:00:37] <Schroeder>	why do people seem to think the Internet is an excuse for rude, obnoxious, and discourteous behavior?
[05:02:00] <Prodego>	Schroeder: you know, that is one thing I can agree with you on
[05:02:10] <Prodego>	but I do find it a bit odd coming from you
[05:02:32] <Schroeder>	why?
[05:02:45] <Splarka>	http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/
[05:04:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Local links in CentralNotice broken on secure.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18977  (10cbrown1023)
[05:15:42] <Sirisian>	how do you link to a talk page?
[05:17:20] <Sirisian>	can you redirect a talk page?
[05:18:49] <Sirisian>	hmm #REDIRECT [[Article]]
[05:19:44] <Splarka>	you can yes
[05:19:52] <Splarka>	#REDIRECT [[Talk:Article]] (usually)
[05:20:08] <Splarka>	just use the full title, prefixed with namespace
[05:20:20] <Sirisian>	oh yeah
[05:20:23] <Sirisian>	just figured it out
[05:20:29] <Sirisian>	thanks
[05:35:14] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Collapsable sections aren't used with mozilla based browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20062 enhancement; Normal; Wikipedia Mobile: server; (wikibugs.philipl)
[05:44:41] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) ExtensionDistributor is "Unable to contact remote subversion client." - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19733  +comment (10tstarling)
[05:49:30] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Special:Newfiles perishes when using OggHandler - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19870  +comment (10tstarling)
[05:49:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) OOM on getting metadata for some OGG files - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19476  +comment (10tstarling)
[06:32:10] <CIA-52>	03tstarling * r54344 10/trunk/extensions/SecurePoll/includes/ListPage.php: Fixed total breakage of strike feature, caused by SecurePoll_Context refactor.
[06:33:57] <CIA-52>	03tstarling * r54345 10/trunk/extensions/SecurePoll/cli/wm-scripts/dumpGlobalVoterList.php: Email list script for bulk mailout.
[06:57:04] <Nikerabbit>	svip: use ack :o
[07:21:43] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) lone <div> in comment breaks page layout - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20063 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (niklas.laxstrom)
[07:44:21] <CIA-52>	03vrandezo * r54346 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/languages/SMW_LanguageEs.php: fix missing comma
[07:45:21] <Vinodh>	Hidden Categories are being shown in the wiki page by default. How to hide them ?
[07:46:07] <CIA-52>	03vrandezo * r54347 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Got inverse property labels working again
[07:46:22] <Vinodh>	e,g http://tinyurl.com/ltgpg2
[07:49:28] <Nikerabbit>	you broke the css?
[07:50:07] <Vinodh>	Nope. The CSS of the current mediawiki skin is untouched
[07:50:27] <p858snake>	you changed the sites defaults?
[07:50:30] <Splarka>	gumax doesn't work properly with 1.13 IIRC
[07:50:55] <Splarka>	it doesn't seem to load site css or the shared css
[07:51:05] <Vinodh>	oh. The Skin is the problem ?
[07:51:26] <Vinodh>	I will make a post in Gumax Forums, then. He might solve the issue
[07:52:19] <Splarka>	http://noolaham.org/wiki/skins/common/shared.css
[07:52:27] <Splarka>	.mw-hidden-cats-hidden { display: none; }
[07:52:32] <Splarka>	.catlinks-allhidden { display: none; }
[07:52:43] <Splarka>	gumax isn't loading that
[07:53:18] <Vinodh>	Oh
[07:53:25] <Vinodh>	It is not loading the shared.css file ?
[07:55:09] <Splarka>	view-source, tisn't seeming to be
[07:56:00] <Vinodh>	Ok. Thanks. I will report this in the Gu Max Forums ! Thanks for the help !!!
[07:56:07] <Splarka>	http://noolaham.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_Noolaham_Foundation_Annual_Report_2008&useskin=monobook&uselang=en
[07:56:54] <p858snake>	you can probably try adding it to [[Mediawiki:Common.css]]
[07:57:13] <p858snake>	if 1.1.13 supported that
[07:57:31] <Vinodh>	oh ok
[07:57:48] <Splarka>	@import "/wiki/index.php?title=%E0%AE%AE%E0%AF%80%E0%AE%9F%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%AF%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%B5%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%95%E0%AF%8D%E0%AE%95%E0%AE%BF:Common.css&usemsgcache=yes&action=raw&ctype=text/css&smaxage=18000";
[07:57:56] <Splarka>	it is loading it, so it should work
[07:58:13] <Splarka>	though it would be redundant for other skins, so you could just add it to Gumax.css
[07:58:29] <Splarka>	or better yet, at the top of MediaWiki:Gumax.css :
[07:58:35] <Splarka>	@import "http://noolaham.org/wiki/skins/common/shared.css";
[08:00:28] <Vinodh>	Thank You guys..
[08:00:29] <Vinodh>	It worked..
[08:28:03] <CIA-52>	03nikerabbit * r54348 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (Translate.css TranslateEditAddons.php): Small style test and whitespace preserving for tm suggestions
[08:29:30] <CIA-52>	03vrandezo * r54349 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/RELEASE-NOTES: expanded release notes
[08:33:36] <Nikerabbit>	hi Splarka
[08:34:17] <Splarka>	rar?
[08:34:55] <tyw7>	!helper I cannot view my uploaded images
[08:34:55] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "helper".
[08:35:06] <tyw7>	I cannot view my uploaded images
[08:35:07] <Annemarie>	Oh, not you again.
[08:35:19] <tyw7>	This is a complaint
[08:35:27] <tyw7>	Database Error: Unknown database 'enwiki_p' (sql-s1) on sql-s1/enwiki_p
[08:35:28] <tyw7>	- Failed to connect to database!
[08:35:32] <tyw7>	Fatal error: Call to a member function addQuotes() on a non-object in /home/daniel/public_html/WikiSense-live/web/common/WikiQuery.php on line 940
[08:35:42] <Annemarie>	That's a Toolserver issue.
[08:35:50] <Annemarie>	Just wait a few days.
[08:35:52] <tyw7>	so which channel?
[08:36:09] <Annemarie>	/join 0
[08:36:45] <tyw7>	lol
[08:38:44] <p858snake>	this channel is designed for help and support relating to the use of the mediawiki package and is not intended as a help and support channel for external sites using the mediawiki package (for example: wikipedia, commons)
[08:39:04] <tyw7>	Isn't this regarding the wikipedia software?
[08:39:47] <Nikerabbit>	there is no such thing as wikipedia software
[08:40:09] <tyw7>	the software behind wikipedia
[08:41:24] <OverlordQ>	Your problem does not involve mediawiki (the software), but rather the toolserver
[08:47:53] <CIA-52>	03nikerabbit * r54351 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ffs/WikiExtension.php: Handle different newlines gracefully
[08:48:02] <Nikerabbit>	there is no "the software behind wikipedia" either
[08:48:35] <Annemarie>	!toolserver
[08:48:35] --mwbot--	The Wikimedia Toolserver is a server with access to a (more or less) live copy of the database of all Wikimedia projects, for use with user scripts and utilities. Access is granted on request on a case-by-case basis. See <http://wiki.ts.wikimedia.org/view/Main_Page> and <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Toolserver> for more information.
[08:54:45] <CIA-52>	03nikerabbit * r54352 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (media/GIF.php specials/SpecialExport.php): Whitespace fixes
[09:04:23] <CIA-52>	03btongminh * r54350 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryAllimages.php: Overide getDB() method to make sure to make sure the repo's DB is used which may not necesarilly be the same as the local DB.
[09:08:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Make a book/collection doesn't work on hr wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20056  +comment (10johannes.beigel)
[09:11:40] <Nikerabbit>	hmm
[09:16:13] <Nikerabbit>	awrfg
[09:16:22] <Nikerabbit>	just when I would have asked about mdale
[09:27:22] <p858snake>	Annemarie: i was waiting for you to say something worse than the join 0 >.>
[09:27:56] <CIA-52>	03mkroetzsch * r54353 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/INSTALL: prepared instructions for SMW 1.4.3 release
[09:38:16] <CIA-52>	03mkroetzsch * r54354 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/languages/ (15 files): final name for new special property that records input problems
[09:41:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Spezial:Pages with Semantic Errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13598  (10markus)
[09:56:53] <djr>	I chosed x-cache when installing mediawiki, but it's not working. Complaining about x-cache.var being set to 0, which it isnt (and yes, apache restarted several times). Anyone knows how to fix this? Running Debian Lenny. If not, how can I disable the use of x-cache in mediawiki?
[09:57:32] <DeSian>	any way to deactive complete using HTML code in mediawiki article?
[09:57:41] <DeSian>	disabling*
[10:00:32] <djr>	nm, LocalSettings.php is the file!
[10:16:47] <werdna>	DeSian: By asking your question and then leaving sraight away
[10:27:40] <Richlv>	are there any known solutions to migrate content from dokuwiki to mediawiki ?
[10:35:31] <Simetrical>	Maybe, but not that I know of.  MediaWiki doesn't support import of content from any other software that I know of, nobody's cared enough to write it.
[10:46:23] <Nikerabbit>	Simetrical: http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Support&curid=71166&diff=1345202&oldid=1344959
[10:46:41] <Simetrical>	Grah.
[10:46:42] <Simetrical>	Thanks.
[10:47:03] <Simetrical>	Fixing.
[10:47:19] <Nikerabbit>	they keep reporting mw bugs to us :)
[10:47:43] <Nikerabbit>	also in code review it seems
[10:49:22] <Platonides>	the problem with migrating solutions is that people use them only once
[10:49:49] <Platonides>	so although they are sometimes made, they are quickly forgotten, too
[10:50:02] <Nikerabbit>	and?
[10:58:28] <Simetrical>	Mostly people write migration software if they're a business and want customers to migrate to them.
[10:58:44] <Simetrical>	Or *maybe* if they're an open-source project and want people to migrate from the very most dominant player.
[10:59:06] <Simetrical>	If you're just contributing patches because you like using MediaWiki, why would you want to bother writing migration software once you're migrated?
[10:59:50] <CIA-52>	03simetrical * r54355 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
[10:59:50] <CIA-52>	Fix flag legend for watchlist from r54336 breakage
[10:59:50] <CIA-52>	Mistake pointed out by Darth Kule on translatewiki.net, conveyed to me
[10:59:50] <CIA-52>	by Nikerabbit. I changed the semantics of a message but didn't update
[10:59:50] <CIA-52>	all the callers.
[11:02:43] *werdna 	yells at ^demon
[11:05:24] <nietzy>	hi guys, just wondering if anyone could help me with a problem some people are having with my mediawiki site?
[11:07:16] <nietzy>	www.wiki365.info - some people are saying they can not access this site
[11:09:24] <nietzy>	anyone here?
[11:10:59] <nietzy>	+w
[11:11:17] <Platonides>	nietzy, /mode neitzy +w
[11:12:03] <Platonides>	why do you use a meta refresh?
[11:12:33] <nietzy>	who me?
[11:13:40] <^demon>	What better way to start a morning than with a nice netsplit :)
[11:14:07] <Splarka>	being yelled at by werdna?
[11:14:26] <^demon>	Hot damn, then my morning would really be complete.
[11:14:39] <roberthl>	11:02:43  * werdna yells at ^demon
[11:14:55] <^demon>	When was this?
[11:15:00] <roberthl>	Two minutes before you entered.
[11:16:19] <^demon>	werdna: Why the yell?
[11:18:18] <CIA-32>	03demon * r54356 10/trunk/phase3/includes/GlobalFunctions.php: Better patch for parsing PHP's memory limits from OverlordQ.
[11:18:53] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Default memory limit should be increased - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16084  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[11:19:56] <werdna>	^demon: you asked for yelling-at
[11:21:09] <^demon>	I asked to get yelled at?
[11:21:42] <werdna>	yes
[11:21:50] <werdna>	facebook status
[11:22:11] <^demon>	Haha, forgot.
[11:22:49] *^demon 	forgets that the number of people in here who are also friends on Facebook has been rising in recent months
[12:03:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) links on Special:DeletedContributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20006  (10umherirrender_de.wp)
[12:18:59] <CIA-32>	03aaron * r54357 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialDeletedContributions.php: check 'undelete' for undelete page links
[12:37:52] <CIA-32>	03nikerabbit * r54358 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/TranslateEditAddons.php: Unbreak undo
[12:38:12] <chah>	hi@all
[12:38:56] <chah>	is it possible to allow only registered users to edit a site?
[12:41:35] <chah>	sorry for asking: http://tinyurl.com/ksszb4
[12:42:38] <kakashi__>	Hi, I want a php script which can convert a mediawiki page to an HTML page
[12:45:05] <werdna>	yes
[12:45:05] <werdna>	!access
[12:45:05] --mwbot--	For information on customizing user access, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights>. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access>.
[12:45:53] <kakashi__>	werdna, are there any other scripts other than mw-lib for wikipedia to html/xml conversion 
[12:46:30] <kakashi__>	!convert
[12:46:30] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "convert". You might try: !csv2wp 
[12:46:40] <kakashi__>	!wiki2html
[12:46:40] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "wiki2html".
[12:47:20] <kakashi__>	!wp2html
[12:47:20] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "wp2html".
[12:47:25] <kakashi__>	hmm.. 
[12:49:25] <saper>	!csv2wp
[12:49:25] --mwbot--	csv2wp is an online tool for converting tables in CSV format, like the one Excel can produce, to WikiText or HTML.
[12:50:19] <roberthl>	werdna: Hooks.php isn't checked in to Subversion for LQT.
[12:55:13] <werdna>	six commits until I overtake hashar
[12:55:16] <werdna>	!parser
[12:55:16] --mwbot--	For alternative parsers, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Alternative_parsers>. For an (incomplete) specification of mediawiki syntax, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Markup_spec>.
[13:08:04] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Unique identity constraints for XML dump format schema - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4220  (10mormegil)
[13:24:12] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) XML schema not updated, current MediaWiki dumps are not valid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20064 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Export/Import; (mormegil)
[13:26:39] <fishsponge>	hey people - is there a way to embed a section of a wiki page into another wiki page? i don't really want to use a template because it won't then be searchable in the wiki search...
[13:27:35] <chah>	Another question: How can i mark an site as "unfinished?"
[13:38:28] <thedj>	our image syntax is weird...
[13:38:39] <thedj>	why does upright double as a scale param ?
[13:41:09] <CIA-32>	03raymond * r54359 10/trunk/extensions/DeleteBatch/DeleteBatch.php: Fix message key, per hint of "Der Umherirrende" at http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Support&oldid=1345441#deletebatch-desc_not_used_on_Special:Version
[13:43:42] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Can not search on the left side bar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19670  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[13:43:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) The search function on Wikipedia won't select (Modern + webkit browsers - Safari, Chrome) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19194  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[13:48:27] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) "No such article" page doesn't look right for page titles containing '' and ''' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6568  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[14:09:26] <^demon>	Heh, the hold music for the helpdesk sounds like 60s Disney movie music. Like the instrumental background music.
[14:11:02] <RJD22[FTP-Anime]>	hello
[14:11:35] <RJD22[FTP-Anime]>	Prolly you get this a lot but I want to export your difference system
[14:11:49] <RJD22[FTP-Anime]>	but I can't find a good way on how to do it
[14:12:10] <RJD22[FTP-Anime]>	does someone have a tip for me
[14:14:28] <spiffytech>	Is there a way to get a list of all categories and their child (or parent) categories from the mediawiki DB? the categorylinks table mixes in pages and I haven't figured out how to reliably filter them out.
[14:15:21] <fishsponge>	hey people - how do i indent a monospace section?
[14:15:25] <fishsponge>	i want something like this:
[14:15:31] <fishsponge>	: command_goes_here
[14:26:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) The search function on Wikipedia won't select (Modern + webkit browsers - Safari, Chrome) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19194  +comment (10hartman)
[14:33:18] <CIA-32>	03jojo * r54360 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/ (12 files in 3 dirs): Prettify the UI, added icons etc.
[14:35:23] <CIA-32>	03jojo * r54361 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: fix
[14:47:38] <CIA-32>	03jojo * r54362 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: fix JS paths
[14:48:04] <Biny->	Branch: 54361 -- Parse error: syntax error, unexpected $end in /var/www/wiki115/phase3/includes/GlobalFunctions.php on line 3236
[14:48:11] <Biny->	after updating.
[14:50:13] <Biny->	fixed by adding a } at end!
[14:50:59] <CIA-32>	03purodha * r54363 10/trunk/extensions/ExternalData/ExternalData.i18n.php: Consistent spelling. All-caps rendering vis CSS.
[14:51:26] <str4nd>	yeah, http://p.defau.lt/?j9IBqfzib_5VeYmN9RepUw
[14:51:31] <^demon>	I can haz patch http://pastey.net/119969
[14:51:41] <str4nd>	winner
[14:52:40] <^demon>	werdna: Commit plz, trunk broken
[14:53:07] <^demon>	(or anyone, really)
[14:53:36] <scoobyrico>	if I want any user to be able to edit a page in the $wgSitename namespace through some specific code in an extension, but not everywhere.  Could someone point me to code that will allow this, please and thank you in advance?
[14:54:00] <scoobyrico>	- ? + !
[14:54:05] <str4nd>	need commit access first :<
[14:54:19] <^demon>	str4nd: I have it, I'm just behind a stupid proxy
[14:54:39] <str4nd>	killall stupid proxies
[15:00:16] <Biny->	poor demon
[15:01:18] <Biny->	you dun broke it gud!
[15:01:32] *^demon 	rigs up a noose
[15:04:03] <Skyraven>	hello guys, is there any way to make Special:Allpages display everything into a single column ? (by default I see it places stuff into 3)
[15:04:09] <Skyraven>	thanks in advance :)
[15:07:08] <werdna>	^demon: fixing
[15:08:55] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Removing Level 1 Heading from the enhanced toolbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20065 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (nkomura)
[15:09:05] <werdna>	andrew-macbook:includes andrew$ cd phase3/includes; svn up; wget -O- 'http://pastey.net/119969+' | patch -p0; php -l GlobalFunctions.php && svn ci phase3/includes/GlobalFunctions.php -m 'Fix syntax error'
[15:09:09] <CIA-32>	03werdna * r54364 10/trunk/phase3/includes/GlobalFunctions.php: Fix syntax error
[15:09:09] <werdna>	\o/
[15:10:25] <^demon>	yay
[15:10:58] <werdna>	btw, there are two bugs in that line, find them
[15:12:19] *^demon 	looks for 2 seconds
[15:13:10] <^demon>	I don't see it. I haven't had any caffeine today.
[15:13:44] <GreenReaper>	"-O-" seems incorrect.
[15:20:00] <str4nd>	GreenReaper, it's not
[15:23:16] <werdna>	GreenReaper: why?
[15:23:45] <GreenReaper>	It just looks funny.
[15:23:56] <GreenReaper>	I mean, who has an -  *after* an O?
[15:23:58] <GreenReaper>	Before, sure.
[15:24:24] <werdna>	-O -- output file
[15:24:29] <werdna>	- -- standard output
[15:24:42] <GreenReaper>	See, that's just confusing to me.
[15:24:59] <GreenReaper>	Context-sensitive symbols are not fun.
[15:29:07] <CIA-32>	03tparscal * r54365 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Removed level 1 heading from toolbar (solving bug #20065). Removed console debugging statement which - when firebug isn't open - caused a javascript error. Rebuilt combined and minified versions of plugins.
[15:30:19] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Removing Level 1 Heading from the enhanced toolbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20065  +comment (10tparscal)
[15:58:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Unique identity constraints for XML dump format schema - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4220  +comment (10elvstone)
[16:01:09] <kneeskrap3r>	hey everyone
[16:02:16] <kneeskrap3r>	I plugged in $wgShowDebug to my localsettings.php and I'm not getting any debug messages
[16:02:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Unique identity constraints for XML dump format schema - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4220  (10elvstone)
[16:02:30] <kneeskrap3r>	anybody have any ideas?
[16:03:29] <kneeskrap3r>	
[16:03:30] *kneeskrap3r 	
[16:03:30] *kneeskrap3r 	
[16:03:31] *kneeskrap3r 	
[16:03:40] <kneeskrap3r>	
[16:03:42] <kneeskrap3r>	
[16:03:43] *kneeskrap3r 	
[16:03:44] *kneeskrap3r 	
[16:03:44] *kneeskrap3r 	
[16:03:53] <kneeskrap3r>	whoa
[16:04:06] <kneeskrap3r>	sorry
[16:05:09] <Nikerabbit>	...
[16:05:49] <Laaknor>	kneeskrap3r: *what* did you write in LocalSettings.php ?
[16:05:59] <Nikerabbit>	it's not enough
[16:06:41] <Nikerabbit>	!wg ShowDebug
[16:06:41] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgShowDebug
[16:07:07] <roberthl>	you must enable debug comments first
[16:07:16] <Nikerabbit>	$wgDebugComments        = true;
[16:07:26] <^demon>	No you don't.
[16:07:42] <roberthl>	i wrote the feature, you do
[16:07:46] <roberthl>	unless someone fixed it
[16:07:51] <^demon>	Wait, that's stupid.
[16:08:04] <Nikerabbit>	showdebug only displays them in the content, instead of comments
[16:08:16] <Nikerabbit>	those variables could use better documentation
[16:08:17] <^demon>	That's not intuitive at all :)
[16:08:27] <Laaknor>	mhm
[16:08:31] <Laaknor>	that worked on my testwiki
[16:09:18] <roberthl>	^demon: it's a hack with explode, probably should be replaced with something different in wfDebug
[16:09:45] <^demon>	Fixed docs http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual:$wgShowDebug&diff=269172&oldid=259246
[16:10:05] <Laaknor>	yeah, you beat me to it...
[16:12:28] <^demon>	Hehe, setting $wgCapitalLinks = false; on an existing wiki and running namespaceDupes is funny. You end up with a redirect from [[Main Page]] to [[main Page]].
[16:12:57] <^demon>	Wait no, fixCaps.
[16:12:58] <^demon>	W/e
[16:14:09] <^demon>	roberthl: Suggest documenting wacky behavior in DefaultSettings too. Also IMHO, if $wgDebugComments is false, you shouldn't output the "Debug data:" part either...then it looks like you've got nothing to debug.
[16:19:38] <roberthl>	yes, the whole feature needs rewriting though
[16:19:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Removing Level 1 Heading from the enhanced toolbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20065  (10tparscal)
[16:19:48] <roberthl>	not sure why i commited it to trunk
[16:20:05] <Nikerabbit>	because we all want to break wikipedia
[16:20:09] <^demon>	\o/
[16:20:41] <^demon>	roberthl: There's a bug about cleaning up calls to wfDebug/wfDebugLog. Could bundle that into your cleanup :p
[16:20:49] <roberthl>	sure :)
[16:21:27] <CIA-32>	03raymond * r54366 10/trunk/extensions/ExternalData/ExternalData.i18n.php: 
[16:21:27] <CIA-32>	Revert r54363: This kind of styling is really not needed for consisteny with other error messaes
[16:21:27] <CIA-32>	As Nikerabbit pointed out on CodeReview the surrounding p should go into code.
[16:21:27] <CIA-32>	The messages can than be surrounded by <p class="error"></p>
[16:21:53] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: have you looked into my suggestion how to preserve whitespace? :o
[16:22:49] <^demon>	Where?
[16:23:31] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: where? I don't remember!
[16:23:40] <Nikerabbit>	in codereview or in a bug report
[16:24:06] <^demon>	Well, I'll go search through all 2370+ open bugs in MW core and all 54000+ revisions in code review :D
[16:24:17] <Nikerabbit>	sure
[16:24:22] <Nikerabbit>	oh heck
[16:24:35] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: have you looked into stealing my STDOUT implementation?
[16:25:11] <^demon>	Where is it?
[16:26:07] <Nikerabbit>	Translate/scripts/cli.inc or .php
[16:28:06] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) Use wfDebugLog instead of wfDebug by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14601  (10robert)
[16:29:05] <CIA-32>	03raymond * r54367 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: Follow-up r54360: Change message key to ignore for translatewiki
[16:31:34] <CIA-32>	03nikerabbit * r54368 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Wiki.php: 
[16:31:34] <CIA-32>	* Forward get parameters to local interwikis
[16:31:34] <CIA-32>	* Patch by str4nd
[16:40:02] <^demon>	Stupid software updates.
[16:40:08] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: So where is your STDIN stuff?
[16:41:12] <Nikerabbit>	[19:26:07]  Nikerabbit> Translate/scripts/cli.inc or .php
[16:41:14] <roberthl>	huh
[16:41:26] <kneeskrap3r>	@Laaknor you still on?
[16:41:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Use wfDebugLog instead of wfDebug by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14601  (10robert)
[16:42:07] <kneeskrap3r>	$wgShowDebug = true;
[16:42:17] <kneeskrap3r>	added that line but it isn't functioning per documentation
[16:42:53] <^demon>	kneeskrap3r: You also have to add $wgDebugComments = true;
[16:42:53] <Laaknor>	check the documentation one more time
[16:42:58] <kneeskrap3r>	k
[16:43:01] <^demon>	We just updated the docs :)
[16:43:18] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: Looks cool. I'll play with it after lunch
[16:44:36] <kneeskrap3r>	@Laaknor yup my bad
[16:44:45] <kneeskrap3r>	totally didn't see the Comments piece
[16:44:56] <Laaknor>	;)
[16:45:33] <kneeskrap3r>	thanks
[16:45:38] <kneeskrap3r>	so here's one for ya
[16:45:56] <kneeskrap3r>	When I edit an existing page and save it I get a blank screen
[16:46:34] <kneeskrap3r>	error reporting is on
[16:46:44] <kneeskrap3r>	but I still just get no feedback
[16:47:49] <kneeskrap3r>	now for the kicker:
[16:47:56] <kneeskrap3r>	the save does indeed take place
[16:48:27] <kneeskrap3r>	but only for me, other users with EXACTLY the same permissions cannot, they get the blank page and can NOT save
[16:50:05] <Prodego>	interesting
[16:50:58] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Logo change for li.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20066 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (timvandermeij)
[16:53:46] <kneeskrap3r>	YES! I got errors.
[16:54:02] <kneeskrap3r>	weird to be excited that I can see a problem ;)
[16:54:09] <kneeskrap3r>	Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 20971520 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 7680 bytes) in /mnt/target03/352704/docs.nowirz.net/web/content/includes/LinksUpdate.php on line 543
[16:54:28] <kneeskrap3r>	is there a way to change the allowed memory size?
[16:54:36] <kneeskrap3r>	or is that a hosting deal?
[16:55:09] <GreenReaper>	see http://www.ducea.com/2008/02/14/increase-php-memory-limit/ for a few ideas in that area
[16:55:39] <GreenReaper>	I think a tweak to try and increase it automatically to 50Mb was just added to the MediaWiki codebase, but it is not in any released version yet.
[16:58:15] <kneeskrap3r>	thanks, and here is an interesting note: the line it is failing on is the beginning of the getExistingImages() function...
[16:58:51] <valhallasw>	where is the conversion from '' to 'Main Page' done?
[16:59:16] <valhallasw>	index.php?page=&... does the conversion, but api.php?titles=| doesn't
[17:01:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Logo change for li.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20066   +shell; +comment (10str4nd)
[17:01:26] <kneeskrap3r>	same error after doing a ini_set('memory_limit', '64M'); within linksupdate.php
[17:01:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Logo change for li.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20066  (10str4nd)
[17:01:36] <kneeskrap3r>	I'm going to change the limit in php.ini
[17:04:30] <kneeskrap3r>	scratch that, htaccess
[17:06:45] <valhallasw>	hmm, in checkInitialQueries
[17:08:10] <Nikerabbit>	wassup
[17:08:57] <TheOracle23>	checking out /trunk/phase3 woo
[17:16:30] <CIA-32>	03purodha * r54369 10/trunk/extensions/WikiAtHome/NonFreeVideoHandler.php: 
[17:16:30] <CIA-32>	PLURAL support added according to suggestion of EugeneZelenko at
[17:16:30] <CIA-32>	http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Support&oldid=1345504#Wah-transcode-helpout_should_use_PLURAL
[17:20:05] <valhallasw>	whee special cases
[17:20:06] <valhallasw>	:(
[17:20:27] <valhallasw>	the api consistently uses Title::newFromText($title)
[17:20:44] <valhallasw>	but the safety check (action != delete) is impossible to implement there :/
[17:28:08] <kneeskrap3r>	GreenWireless
[17:31:06] <CIA-32>	03tparscal * r54370 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (6 files in 3 dirs): 
[17:31:06] <CIA-32>	Broke the wikiEditor plugin's modules into separate files - and made it so the
[17:31:06] <CIA-32>	modules are only defined and stored once on the client and attached to the
[17:31:06] <CIA-32>	$.wikiEditor.modules object rather than once per instance and being stored in
[17:31:07] <CIA-32>	each context (performance improvement possible when using more than one
[17:31:09] <CIA-32>	instance).
[17:31:54] <CIA-32>	03tparscal * r54371 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/js/ (plugins.combined.js plugins.combined.min.js): Rebuilt the combined and minified plugin files.
[17:35:21] <deker0>	hi all, anyone around to answer a quick question?
[17:35:30] <roberthl>	!ask
[17:35:30] --mwbot--	Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. See also: !gethelp
[17:35:35] <deker0>	ok
[17:35:45] <deker0>	so, i am trying to enable searches for 3 letter words
[17:35:51] <deker0>	i edited the /etc/my.cnf file
[17:35:59] <deker0>	and i went into mysql and rebuilt the index
[17:36:01] <CIA-32>	03purodha * r54372 10/trunk/extensions/ExternalData/ (ED_Utils.php ExternalData.i18n.php): 
[17:36:01] <CIA-32>	PLURAL support added to Mediadiki:externaldata-db-could-not-get-url according to request at
[17:36:01] <CIA-32>	http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Support&oldid=1345645#In_Extension:ExternalData
[17:36:03] <deker0>	but it still isn't working
[17:36:14] <deker0>	anyone have some ideas that i can try?
[17:39:33] <CIA-32>	03tparscal * r54373 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (css/wikiEditor.toc.css js/plugins/jquery.wikiEditor.toc.js): Added RTL support for wikiEditor toc module.
[17:42:45] <CIA-32>	03dale * r54374 10/trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/libAddMedia/ (mvAdvFirefogg.js mvFirefogg.js): stubs for select from url for firefogg
[17:44:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Logo change for li.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20066  (10timvandermeij)
[17:46:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Logo change for li.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20066  (10innocentkiller)
[17:47:30] <^demon>	brion: For bug 19650 (Show LATER and possibly WONTFIX bugs in default Bugzilla search). I can easily change the default query, but I'm not sure about WONTFIX. There's a lot of really useless crap that's been suggested & WONTFIX'd over the years. I think it would clutter a default search.
[17:48:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Logo change for li.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20066  (10timvandermeij)
[17:53:46] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) PDF link missing from the toolbox of Vector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20067 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (nkomura)
[17:56:01] <CIA-32>	03rotem * r54375 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update.
[17:56:33] <CIA-32>	03werdna * r54376 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/SpecialAbuseLog.php: Fix PHP warning for users who cannot view filter details
[17:56:55] <svip>	Nikerabbit: ack?
[17:56:59] <GreenReaper>	!r 54376
[17:56:59] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/54376
[17:57:50] <Nikerabbit>	svip: what?
[17:58:01] <svip>	You told me to use ack.
[17:58:02] <svip>	Why!
[17:58:15] <Nikerabbit>	because you complained grep is slow
[17:58:22] <svip>	Blah.
[17:58:46] <CIA-32>	03ialex * r54377 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: fix typo in comment
[17:58:47] <Nikerabbit>	böh
[17:58:55] <Nikerabbit>	ugga bugga gagaugga bdaguga
[17:59:31] <svip>	... what
[17:59:46] <Nikerabbit>	you stole my words
[18:02:35] <svip>	I did!
[18:26:00] <ialex>	mdale: hmm, http://metavid.ucsc.edu/code which is linked from phase3/js2/mwEmbed/README, only contains "test"
[18:26:14] <mdale>	hehe
[18:26:18] <mdale>	will update that ;)
[18:26:58] <mdale>	removed the link
[18:27:11] <CIA-32>	03dale * r54378 10/trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/README: removed old "code" link
[18:29:21] <CIA-32>	03ialex * r54379 10/trunk/phase3/mwScriptLoader.php: two more typos
[18:33:53] <CIA-32>	03mkroetzsch * r54380 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_GlobalFunctions.php: this is SMW 1.4.3
[18:38:44] <CIA-32>	03mkroetzsch * r54381 10/tags/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/REL_1_4_3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): release tag for SMW 1.4.3
[18:42:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Preserve color profile information for thumbs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19960  (10kaldari)
[18:48:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Ampersand replaced by its HTML entity even in <html> sections, breaking JavaScript - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10407  (10clemenzi)
[18:51:48] <CIA-32>	03dale * r54382 10/trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (5 files in 4 dirs): 
[18:51:48] <CIA-32>	some sequence / playlist / add-media bug fixes
[18:51:48] <CIA-32>	* improved abstraction of embedVideo class for playlist object
[18:53:06] <deker0>	hi all, i am trying to enable searches for 3 letter words
[18:53:09] <deker0>	i edited the /etc/my.cnf file
[18:53:12] <deker0>	and i went into mysql and rebuilt the index
[18:53:15] <deker0>	but it still isn't working
[18:55:42] <werdna>	brion: I'm working on fixing up the LiquidThreads history mechanism. Currently, we have a separate histry mechanism that tracks these things: New threads, new replies, edits to posts, edits to summary pages, deletions, undeletions, moving from one page to another, splitting posts into their own threads, editing the thread subject.
[18:55:58] <werdna>	I'm thinking right now that the best way to do this is per top-level thread, and not per post.
[18:56:01] <werdna>	What do you think?
[18:57:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) XML schema not updated, current MediaWiki dumps are not valid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20064  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[19:01:16] <CIA-32>	03tparscal * r54383 10/trunk/extensions/FundraiserPortal/Templates/ (RubyText.php Tourmaline.php): Added hide / show support to banners with close buttons.
[19:03:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) XML schema not updated, current MediaWiki dumps are not valid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20064  +comment (10agarrett)
[19:07:43] <^demon>	werdna: IMHO we should bundle these changes to the XSD together.
[19:08:03] <werdna>	^demon: that's why I mentioned it :)
[19:09:15] <Nikerabbit>	does anyone know, if I have a filename, how to access the file data directly?
[19:09:42] <werdna>	file_get_contents()
[19:09:43] <werdna>	?
[19:10:02] <werdna>	or fopen/fread
[19:10:30] <Nikerabbit>	werdna: how to get the file system path?
[19:10:38] <Nikerabbit>	I mean uploaded file, of course
[19:10:40] <werdna>	oh right
[19:10:47] <werdna>	wfFindFile( 'File name.jpg' );
[19:10:55] <werdna>	the return value is a File object
[19:10:58] <werdna>	you can use getPath()
[19:11:07] <Nikerabbit>	werdna: thanks, I will try it out
[19:11:11] <werdna>	beware that it won't always be possible to have a local fpath
[19:11:33] <werdna>	We have plans for non-NFS-based storage on Wikimedia
[19:12:01] <Nikerabbit>	is there function to check whether it is local?
[19:14:40] <werdna>	read the code
[19:17:29] <^demon>	wfLocalFile() is good if you don't want to risk getting a foreign repo file.
[19:17:45] <CIA-32>	03brion * r54384 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Skin.php): 
[19:17:45] <CIA-32>	* wgMainPageTitle variable now available to JavaScript code to identify the main page link, so it doesn't have to be extracted from the link URLs.
[19:17:45] <CIA-32>	Can be used to link to the main page, or check if we're currently on the main page, without having to hardcode the local name (which may be customized in the message)
[19:26:26] <^demon>	werdna: Let's just skip 0.4 and make it a big bump to 0.5 :)
[19:26:29] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: do you have userinfo checked out?
[19:26:37] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: Yeah
[19:26:51] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: is it safe to use utf-8 there?
[19:27:33] <^demon>	Afaik.
[19:27:58] <^demon>	http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/USERINFO/avar?revision=24370&view=markup
[19:28:04] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: would you want to fix my name then? :)
[19:28:37] <^demon>	When I get home and can commit it, sure.
[19:28:44] <Nikerabbit>	great
[19:28:53] <Nikerabbit>	just o->ö
[19:29:46] <CIA-32>	03brion * r54385 10/branches/wmf-deployment/ (15 files in 11 dirs): 
[19:29:46] <CIA-32>	Merge r54384 -- 'wgMainPageTitle' in JS vars
[19:29:47] <CIA-32>	(Ugh, all this mergeinfo crap is annoying.)
[19:29:50] <Nikerabbit>	nothing beats lazyness like lazyness
[19:31:58] <CIA-32>	03brion * r54386 10/branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/SecurePoll/cli/wm-scripts/dumpMetaTranslations.php: syntax fix from live server
[19:32:00] <jdpond>	Wanted to show someone the "semantic wiki" graphic.  Anybody having
[19:32:56] <jdpond>	Was "He said Semantic"
[19:32:59] <Nikerabbit>	!hesaidsemantic
[19:32:59] --mwbot--	http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/576/hesaidsemanticga2.jpg
[19:33:15] <brion>	you're not antisemantic are you? tsk tsk
[19:33:21] <Nikerabbit>	of course not
[19:33:27] <jdpond>	Thanks!  Perfect
[19:33:31] <Nikerabbit>	just not semitic
[19:35:06] <CIA-32>	03avar * r54387 10/USERINFO/avar: Correct e-mail
[19:35:12] <jdpond>	brion: No I'm not, I just had one of my program managers developing using semantic wiki and he was pulling his hair out.
[19:35:25] <brion>	hehe
[19:36:28] <Nikerabbit>	night
[20:03:07] <CIA-32>	03daniel * r54388 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWordBuilder/src/main/java/de/brightbyte/wikiword/builder/PropertyImporter.java: store concept *or* alias
[20:14:35] <Alphos>	with the api, is the edittoken the same as the token you get when logging in ?
[20:34:19] <brion-lunch>	Alphos: in theory yes, however note that the token is tied to your session, not to your username
[20:34:40] <Alphos>	i noticed that yet ^^
[20:34:42] <brion-lunch>	so if you have one session in a browser and another on a bot, then they'll be different
[20:34:52] <brion-lunch>	if JS code in your browser is accessing the api then they should be the same yes
[20:35:07] <Alphos>	is it possible to have two sessions on the same account ? oO
[20:35:30] <brion>	sure
[20:35:35] <Alphos>	i've always been disconnected on one place when connecting from another :x
[20:35:36] <brion>	like if you're logged in on two browsers
[20:35:39] <brion>	or two computers
[20:35:58] <brion>	currently you can only have one remembered-login token
[20:36:03] <brion>	but you can be logged in from multiple locations
[20:36:36] <Alphos>	hm, weird :x
[20:36:44] <Alphos>	never managed to :/
[20:36:56] <CIA-32>	03daniel * r54389 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWordBuilder/src/main/java/de/brightbyte/wikiword/store/builder/DatabaseLocalConceptStoreBuilder.java: rebuild concept dedupe set on resume
[20:37:06] <werdna>	brion: btw, if we force logins to go through SSL, we should prolly tie sessions to IPs, or there's no point.
[20:37:20] <flyingparchment>	werdna: why is there no point?
[20:37:44] <werdna>	well, I suppose it prevents getting the password in cleartext
[20:38:03] <werdna>	but in terms of preventing account hijackings, a session ID is as useful as a password.
[20:39:22] <brion>	werdna: at the moment you can reset the pass given just a session
[20:39:27] <brion>	however we should change that
[20:39:42] <Emufarmers>	Wouldn't tying sessions to IPs fuck over everybody with a dynamic IP?
[20:39:43] <werdna>	no you can't
[20:39:52] <werdna>	but you can reset email, and then reset password that way
[20:40:08] <brion>	right that's what i'm talking about werdna :)
[20:40:13] <werdna>	ah
[20:40:16] <brion>	Emufarmers: yes, that would be really annoying for me :)
[20:40:28] <werdna>	well, there's a way to do it
[20:40:30] <brion>	my comps move between networks all the time
[20:40:37] <Duesentrieb>	requiring a password for chaining email would be a good idea...
[20:40:47] <brion>	werdna: req'ing password to change the email (and running that through ssl) should do it
[20:41:02] <Emufarmers>	I'm surprised we don't do that already
[20:41:04] <werdna>	set a secure-only cookie which is not tied to IP, and have a non-secure-only cookie tied to IP
[20:41:06] <brion>	yeah we're lazy
[20:41:38] <werdna>	if the non-secure-only cookie is invalid, redirect to https and check the secure-only cookie, if it matches, set a non-secure-only cookie and redirect back
[20:41:45] <werdna>	of course mabe that's overcomplicating it :)
[20:41:51] *Emufarmers 	's brain explodes
[20:44:24] <Emufarmers>	Also, these ants are awesome: I traced them from some food I left in the disposal up its vertical walls, across the countertop, and into a crack in the wall.
[20:44:44] <brion>	ugh, ants suck
[20:44:45] <Emufarmers>	They keep on exactly the same path, even though it twists around.  ++Pheremones
[20:44:52] <brion>	my old apartment in socal had cockroaches *shudder*
[20:44:55] <brion>	little buggers but annoying
[20:44:58] <Emufarmers>	Well, I'm sure my parents won't find them as cool as I do :v
[20:45:21] <werdna>	brion: dude, my apartment has falling plaster from the roof
[20:45:36] <werdna>	Until yesterday, it rained in here whenever anybody took a shower
[20:45:42] <werdna>	There are six people living here :)
[20:45:50] <brion>	enjoying the slums of london? :)
[20:46:07] <werdna>	hehe
[20:46:41] <werdna>	As I understand it, this block of flats was built by the local council, and considered state of the art in the time immediately after WW2
[20:46:51] *werdna 	thinks we could have splurged just a little more ;)
[20:47:34] <CIA-32>	03werdna * r54390 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/Hooks.php: Add missing file
[20:48:24] <GreenReaper>	werdna: And now the shower is broken?
[20:48:44] <werdna>	no, somebody added a metric assload of silicone to the shower and it seems not to leak anymore
[20:48:46] <Duesentrieb>	:P
[20:49:12] <werdna>	anyway, the clocation is great -- I live right near a 24-hour supermarket, which is built in the style of Wal-Mart (probably because it's owned by wal-mart)
[20:49:25] <werdna>	oh yeah, and London has public transport *shock*
[20:50:18] <brion>	handy
[20:51:14] <Emufarmers>	brion, when do you next plan to review the commit access requests? *innocent look*
[20:51:31] <werdna>	I think he's doing it now
[20:51:44] <werdna>	brion: did you see my request for thoughts on LQT history earlier today?
[20:52:30] <brion>	werdna: have not seen yet. where?
[20:52:44] <werdna>	18:55 < werdna> brion: I'm working on fixing up the LiquidThreads history mechanism. Currently, we have a separate histry mechanism that tracks these things: New threads, new replies, edits to  posts, edits to summary pages, deletions, undeletions, moving from one page to another, splitting posts into their own threads, editing the thread subject.
[20:52:49] <werdna>	18:55 < werdna> I'm thinking right now that the best way to do this is per top-level thread, and not per post.
[20:52:52] <werdna>	18:56 < werdna> What do you think?
[20:52:52] <werdna>	2 hours ago, in here :)
[21:19:12] <Soxred93>	What file is the wfGetDB() function in?
[21:20:14] <werdna>	globalfunctions
[21:20:18] *werdna 	teaches Soxred93 grep
[21:20:22] <werdna>	:)
[21:20:30] <Soxred93>	Too lazy to grep
[21:20:31] <Soxred93>	:)
[21:24:31] <werdna>	brion: have a few secs for the question above?
[21:26:16] <brion>	http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Commit_access_requests/Archive_1&diff=269235&oldid=268086
[21:26:28] <brion>	werdna: moment
[21:27:15] <brion>	werdna: that may make sense. basically versioning the thread structure information as a block?
[21:27:18] <Emufarmers>	\o/
[21:27:22] <brion>	Emufarmers: enjoy :)
[21:27:31] *Emufarmers 	high-fives OverlordQ
[21:28:19] <werdna>	brion: Versioning the whole thread, instead of per-post.
[21:28:52] <brion>	right
[21:29:01] <brion>	i'm thinking this could work yes :D
[21:29:18] <werdna>	Everything's a bit fuzzy in the code as written
[21:29:22] <werdna>	it's a little scary
[21:29:28] *Aaron_notebook 	meows
[21:29:41] <werdna>	I can't tell how it's supposed to work :D
[21:30:15] <werdna>	anyway, I've done a general code review, I think once history is fixed it's in a somewhat deployable state
[21:30:21] <werdna>	will want to toy with the appearance and such
[21:30:32] <werdna>	and we'll want to think about thread ordering as with our discussion with Greg the other day
[21:30:43] <werdna>	What do you think about that?
[21:31:31] <brion>	as far as allowing manual reordering of things?
[21:31:36] <werdna>	yeah
[21:31:57] <werdna>	or at least reconsidering ordering reverse-chronological by last change
[21:32:05] <brion>	i'm uncertain about manual order of threads as such (other than being able to set threads as 'sticky') but being able to rebase threads which have been broken would be handy
[21:32:21] <werdna>	'rebase threads which have been broken'?
[21:32:42] <werdna>	You mean a merge operation to go with the split operation?
[21:32:46] <brion>	ya
[21:32:55] <brion>	hmm
[21:32:58] <brion>	as an example use case:
[21:33:12] <werdna>	I know it's necessary, and I've even got the necessary code almost written
[21:33:15] <brion>	frequently if there's an exciting bug, there'll be like four sections added on WP:VPT about it
[21:33:25] <werdna>	It's just a matter of coming up with the UI for it.
[21:33:26] <brion>	be nice to be able to merge them to a single thread :D
[21:33:28] <brion>	woot
[21:33:37] <werdna>	Coming up with the UI is tricky
[21:33:41] <werdna>	do you have any thoughts on that?
[21:34:42] <brion>	drag-n-drop? ;) some sort of navigator interface to find the thread you want to stick in?
[21:35:32] <werdna>	well, drag 'n drop would be nice (if annoying to implement), but we'd need to consider where to put the handles for it.
[21:35:40] <brion>	:)
[21:35:42] *Aaron_notebook 	detects vaporware
[21:35:45] <brion>	leave drag n drop for jquery later perhaps ;)
[21:35:55] <werdna>	I suppose I could, in JS, have a "Merge this thread into another thread" (more succint) menu option
[21:36:08] <werdna>	and then if you click that, you get a link on all other threads "Place beneath this thread"
[21:36:14] <werdna>	and clicking that submits.
[21:36:23] <werdna>	Of course that means no graceful fallback :)
[21:36:31] <werdna>	but that may be acceptable for the time being.
[21:36:40] <brion>	man, setting up filtering for everything on my gmail is a pain in the ass
[21:36:48] <brion>	at least it's got a decent interface for setting up filtering... it's just slow
[21:37:55] <werdna>	sound like a decent (provisional at least) interface?
[21:38:14] <brion>	should work for now
[21:38:25] <brion>	what if you want to rebase it to a thread that's not visible yet, though?
[21:38:47] <werdna>	dunno
[21:39:10] <werdna>	touch them both and then they're on the same page :P
[21:39:29] <werdna>	It could in theory be done with HTTP GET parameters, without the JS
[21:39:34] <brion>	:D
[21:39:38] <werdna>	"lqt_mergefrom=X"
[21:39:41] *Aaron_notebook 	googles 'monica lewinsky'
[21:39:49] <werdna>	and when you click the JS menu option, it modifies the paging links
[21:40:02] <werdna>	Aaron_notebook: I met  guy who lived in the same apartment as her
[21:40:07] <werdna>	when I was skiing in aspen
[21:40:23] <werdna>	brion: having a GET parameter would solve both graceful fallback and the paging problems
[21:42:54] <Emufarmers>	Hmm, how do I link my Special:Code thingy to my wiki account?
[21:43:19] <werdna>	brion: I'm thinking that after fixing up search, rewriting history, and adding a re-merge feature, we can hopefully deploy it somewhere quiet.
[21:43:31] <brion>	strategy.wikimedia.org wants it :)
[21:43:35] <werdna>	Yes indeed :)
[21:43:41] <brion>	Emufarmers: hmm i think i might have to do that currently
[21:43:51] <Emufarmers>	Oh, okay
[21:43:56] *Emufarmers 	updates instructions
[21:44:11] <^demon>	Heh, my corp in EVE just installed MW and wanted an extension.
[21:44:17] <^demon>	They asked if I knew how to write one.
[21:44:42] <brion>	not sure it can be done until you've made a commit either
[21:44:48] <Emufarmers>	oh
[21:45:00] <Emufarmers>	I'll commit my userinfo, I guess? :)
[21:45:11] <Emufarmers>	um, once I figure out how
[21:45:43] <^demon>	svn co svn+ssh://emufarmers@svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/USERINFO/
[21:46:22] <brion>	:D
[21:46:22] <^demon>	Blah.
[21:46:25] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Show author<->user connections on CodeReview authors list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20068 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (brion)
[21:46:32] <MrZ-man>	/svnroot/mediawiki/
[21:46:37] <^demon>	 /svnroot/mediawiki/USERINFO/ :)
[21:47:12] <^demon>	brion: I thought about that the other day. I was like "Why don't we...." and almost fixed it on the spot :p
[21:47:28] <^demon>	MrZ-man: And it's not in trunk, like I always typo :)
[21:47:43] <brion>	^demon: now's your chance to implement it eh? ;)
[21:47:54] <^demon>	Yeah if nobody beats me to it.
[21:47:57] <werdna>	^demon is annoying, he makes us paid folks look like lazy fuckers.
[21:48:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow defining multiple "channels" for CodeReview for particular subdirectories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18129  15enhancement->normal; +comment (10brion)
[21:48:15] <werdna>	He consistently beats me in commits and resolved bugs per week.
[21:48:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) CodeReview "Next unresolved" et al should remember search details - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18012  (10brion)
[21:48:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Allow defining multiple "channels" for CodeReview for particular subdirectories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18129  (10brion)
[21:48:44] <^demon>	I don't try to, really.
[21:49:04] <werdna>	I think last week you resolved more bugs than Aaron and I put to gether
[21:49:31] <^demon>	A _lot_ of those are dupes/invalids/wontfixs.
[21:49:40] <^demon>	I don't actually mark 40 bugs as FIXED.
[21:49:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) CodeReview wrongly marks revs as live due to wmf-development branch - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19788  15enhancement->normal; +comment (10brion)
[21:50:31] <werdna>	^demon: that's a relief
[21:51:16] <^demon>	svn.wikimedia.org is timing out :-\
[21:52:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Geshi CSS styles not included in Code Review - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19474  +comment (10brion)
[22:07:30] <brion>	^demon: quick note @ http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/54356#c3385
[22:07:47] <werdna>	ah, code review.
[22:07:51] <werdna>	The review of code.
[22:09:10] <^demon>	brion: I see. trim()ing wouldn't be enough here, I don't think :-\
[22:09:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) links on Special:DeletedContributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20006  (10umherirrender_de.wp)
[22:10:26] <Emufarmers>	Huh, I thought I had it check whether the memory limit is empty?
[22:12:11] <brion>	^demon: replicating php's quirks is a big pain in the ass :)
[22:12:19] <Emufarmers>	Oh, the checks are in the places where the function is used, not the function itself
[22:12:23] <brion>	a sane language would GIVE US A FUNCTION for getting the "real" value of these things
[22:12:40] <^demon>	brion: You used sane and PHP in the same sentence. You know better.
[22:12:44] <brion>	more reliable to centralize such a check :)
[22:12:49] <brion>	"php is not sane"
[22:12:56] <^demon>	:p
[22:13:15] <brion>	hmm
[22:13:26] <brion>	unsure whether i like these <abbr>s in the RC legend
[22:13:49] <Emufarmers>	If the check were in the function, what would it do when it encountered something bad?  It returns an int value, after all
[22:14:11] <^demon>	brion: Do you not actually like <abbr> or not like how they're styled?
[22:14:12] <Annemarie>	What's the detriment to having the <abbr>?
[22:14:18] <brion>	the style looks weird to me
[22:14:42] <brion>	and why even have a legend if we've got popup <abbr>s on the items?
[22:15:30] *^demon 	didn't go that far.
[22:16:58] <Annemarie>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Brion_VIBBER/tasks_for_noobs Hmmm.
[22:17:04] *Annemarie 	goes to find a link to 'easy' bugs...
[22:17:22] <werdna>	Annemarie: you're getting into committing?
[22:17:26] <CIA-32>	03werdna * r54391 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (classes/View.php lqt.css): Move toolbar to the bottom (looks crap for now, showing Parul)
[22:17:42] <Annemarie>	Haha, no. I was just gonna include a link on that page to easy bugs.
[22:17:48] <Annemarie>	PHP is gross.
[22:18:50] <CIA-32>	03demon * r54392 10/trunk/extensions/SecurePoll/cli/wm-scripts/dumpMetaTranslations.php: Followup r54386. How come trunk is fixed last? That's completely backwards :p
[22:19:26] <Annemarie>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&keywords=easy&bug_status=NEW
[22:19:49] <^demon>	Annemarie: Some of those are harder than they sound.
[22:19:58] <Annemarie>	So remove the keyword. :P
[22:20:07] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Large files being distributed with MediaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19741  +comment (10jidanni)
[22:20:22] <Annemarie>	Surely noob committers are capable of removing the keyword. ;-)
[22:20:36] <^demon>	Sure.
[22:22:32] <CIA-32>	03werdna * r54393 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/lqt.css: Remove wayward padding on lqt-thread-header-signature
[22:23:40] <CIA-32>	03tparscal * r54394 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/OptIn/OptIn.i18n.php: Added some more information to the bottom of the opt-in main page.
[22:25:44] <CIA-32>	03tparscal * r54395 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Took some more steps towards having a flexible API for wikiEditor - mainly adding per-module API extendability.
[22:25:52] <CIA-32>	03emufarmers * r54396 10/USERINFO/emufarmers:
[22:26:00] <Emufarmers>	herm.
[22:26:16] <CIA-32>	03tparscal * r54397 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Rebuilt the combined and minified plugin files.
[22:26:17] <Emufarmers>	Well, good enough
[22:27:44] <Emufarmers>	Somehow I'm guessing the "\ No newline at end of file" is probably bad?
[22:27:45] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) PNG-Image is not shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7595  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[22:27:55] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) RSS/ATOM Feeds / Endless Loop in includes/diff/DifferenceEngine.php(1258) : Fatal error - Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20041  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[22:28:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Diff can cause httpd to hang and peg cpu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7601  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[22:28:06] <CIA-32>	03demon * r54398 10/USERINFO/emufarmers: eol-style
[22:28:20] <Emufarmers>	\o/
[22:28:21] <^demon>	Emufarmers: It's not bad, it's just annoying in diffs :p
[22:28:32] <Emufarmers>	I set the auto-props thing
[22:28:41] <^demon>	Autoprops won't match Emufarmers.
[22:28:44] <^demon>	:p
[22:29:18] <Emufarmers>	v:
[22:29:23] <Emufarmers>	So how do I make it not happen in the future?
[22:29:32] <CIA-32>	03overlordq * r54399 10/USERINFO/overlordq: Add an USERINFO entry for myself
[22:30:28] <^demon>	Emufarmers: Well now that it's set, it's fine. auto-props only matches the patterns you put in like *.php. Auto-props just adds the eol-style on svn add, so you don't have to do it manually.
[22:30:34] <brion>	Emufarmers & OverlordQ -- i have linked your svn accounts to your user accounts in code review :)
[22:30:43] <brion>	yeah you can do it manually
[22:30:56] <brion>	kinda uggo but hey :D
[22:31:02] <Emufarmers>	brion: thanks
[22:31:28] <Emufarmers>	Uh, I didn't add it with svn add; I'm using TortoiseSVN
[22:31:36] <^demon>	Same concept.
[22:32:16] <Emufarmers>	Well, I just created a file; is there something else I need to do to have Tortoise recognize it?
[22:32:46] <^demon>	You just goto the svn context menu, add the file. Then when you commit it'll be added.
[22:33:28] <Emufarmers>	I don't see an add option in the context menu :(
[22:34:40] <brion>	^demon: another minor nit: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/54339#c3391
[22:34:46] *Emufarmers 	goes to RTFM
[22:35:07] <Emufarmers>	brion: that was my patch, you know. :p
[22:35:11] <brion>	:D
[22:36:25] <Emufarmers>	Should we just suppress it with @?
[22:36:38] <^demon>	No
[22:36:41] <CIA-32>	03werdna * r54400 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (classes/View.php lqt.css): Unfloat actions
[22:36:46] <OverlordQ>	I have an excuse I read the php docs :D
[22:37:04] <brion>	Emufarmers: use wfDisableWarnings() / wfEnableWarnings()
[22:37:07] <brion>	or whatever they were called
[22:37:14] <Emufarmers>	ah
[22:37:26] <brion>	this disables warnings without suppressing output for any fatal errors that might happen while you're in there :)
[22:37:41] <^demon>	wfSuppressWarnings/wfRestoreWarnings
[22:38:20] <CIA-32>	03werdna * r54401 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/lqt.css: Tweak spacing
[22:41:22] <CIA-32>	03werdna * r54402 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/lqt.css: Move spacing to below toolbar
[22:42:11] <OverlordQ>	Emufarmers: add will only show up in the context menu if you're in a working copy
[22:43:23] <CIA-32>	03werdna * r54403 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/lqt.css: Kill smaller font for toolbar RHS
[22:45:24] <CIA-32>	03werdna * r54404 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/lqt.css: Match actions link colour
[22:58:10] <brion>	slapping together a few notes for later... http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Module_registry
[22:58:55] <roberthl>	does messages.inc count?
[22:58:56] <CIA-32>	03emufarmers * r54405 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Setup.php: Suppress warnings when trying to raise the memory limit
[22:59:02] <roberthl>	nvm
[22:59:24] <Emufarmers>	whoops
[23:00:44] <CIA-32>	03emufarmers * r54406 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Setup.php: Add missing semicolons
[23:01:21] <Emufarmers>	How do I unfixme a revision?
[23:01:38] <roberthl>	Emufarmers: You need to be in the coder group.
[23:01:41] <Emufarmers>	oh, right
[23:01:47] <roberthl>	brion: $wgExtensionMessagesFiles and $wgExtensionAliasesGroup?
[23:01:48] <Annemarie>	Anyone in the coder group can add you.
[23:01:50] <roberthl>	Emufarmers: one moment
[23:02:21] <roberthl>	Emufarmers: Try again.
[23:02:31] <Emufarmers>	yay
[23:02:51] <Emufarmers>	Do I set it to new or ok?
[23:03:09] <roberthl>	resolved, perhaps?
[23:03:12] <brion>	set it to resolved :)
[23:03:18] <roberthl>	^^
[23:04:34] <CIA-32>	03werdna * r54407 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/Hooks.php: Fix pointing of offset in recentchanges entries
[23:07:20] <brion>	Notice: Undefined variable: wgDBuser in /Library/WebServer/Documents/trunk/maintenance/populateSha1.php on line 58
[23:07:21] <brion>	Notice: Undefined variable: wgDBserver in /Library/WebServer/Documents/trunk/maintenance/populateSha1.php on line 59
[23:07:21] <brion>	Notice: Undefined variable: wgDBpassword in /Library/WebServer/Documents/trunk/maintenance/populateSha1.php on line 60
[23:07:21] <brion>	Notice: Undefined variable: wgDBname in /Library/WebServer/Documents/trunk/maintenance/populateSha1.php on line 60
[23:07:47] <^demon>	Blast it.
[23:08:06] <brion>	:)
[23:09:00] *werdna 	teaches ^demon about load balancers :)
[23:09:46] <Ryan_Lane>	TrevorParscal: Did we have a phone con at 5cst?
[23:09:55] <CIA-32>	03demon * r54408 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/populateSha1.php: Declare globals. Move this all inside the $method = pipe stuff anyway.
[23:11:12] <TrevorParscal>	Ryan_Lane: um
[23:11:22] <TrevorParscal>	that's 11 mins ago?
[23:11:36] <Ryan_Lane>	1hr 11min
[23:16:28] <brion>	Emufarmers: commit message tip -- if you make a followup, refer to the earlier rev (eg as r12345) in the commit message. CodeReview picks this up and makes a two-way relationship visible between the two
[23:16:39] *brion 	thinks we need Clippy for SVN
[23:16:46] <Annemarie>	Heh.
[23:17:05] <Emufarmers>	Okay
[23:17:28] <OverlordQ>	^demon: updateSpecialPages is still wonky
[23:17:42] <Annemarie>	Emufarmers: And write a "Tips for new committers" page on MW.org for things like this. ;-)
[23:18:10] <Annemarie>	Though I think there are already some good docs somewhere.
[23:18:11] <Emufarmers>	Annemarie: I'm already working on it in my head :)
[23:18:11] <OverlordQ>	the old version included QueryPage to get the $wgQueryPages array, but rewrite doesn't
[23:18:39] <CIA-32>	03demon * r54409 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/Maintenance.php: 
[23:18:39] <CIA-32>	Remove useless scripts list. Nothing depends on it yet really, so nobody will
[23:18:39] <CIA-32>	miss it. Instead iterate over all .php files in the maintenance directories and
[23:18:39] <CIA-32>	look for $maintClass. Keep this commented out for now, unported scripts cause
[23:18:39] <CIA-32>	this to blow up and I'm not writing stupid workarounds.
[23:19:06] <^demon>	brion: Whoo ^^^
[23:19:14] <brion>	\o/
[23:20:00] <brion>	what in the christ... calling external 'mysql' command? it really shouldn't be doing that i think :) old code?
[23:20:27] <^demon>	brion: Yeah probably. I tried to keep old things like that in for b/c...afraid to break god-knows-what inside WMF
[23:21:47] <brion>	adding a fixme comment...
[23:25:12] <CIA-32>	03brion * r54410 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/populateSha1.php: Add fixme note to replace 'mysql' command-line callout with proper usage of a second unbuffered DB connection
[23:25:44] <p858snake|sleep>	i havn't read said page but somone here might want to if they haven't http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28miscellaneous%29#www.baiamonti.it_advertising_techniques_to_breach_security_of_Wikipedia
[23:25:56] <OverlordQ>	is there any reason the $wgQueryPage list is in includes/QueryPage.php instead of DefaultSettings?
[23:26:50] <^demon>	OverlordQ: Same reason the classes are listed in Autoloader.php
[23:26:58] <^demon>	Actually no, that's not true.
[23:27:09] <^demon>	Autoloader actually has a reason. QueryPage probably doesn't.
[23:27:40] <OverlordQ>	well, like I mentioned previously, since you never actually include QueryPage the array is never available for updateSPecialPages
[23:28:23] <^demon>	p858snake|sleep: No such heading.
[23:28:55] <p858snake|sleep>	bah must of been archived last night then
[23:31:09] <^demon>	p858snake|sleep: Well, the translation sucks...
[23:31:33] <p858snake|sleep>	hence me not reading it
[23:33:03] <^demon>	It certainly doesn't sound like anything technical.
[23:33:41] <^demon>	Not software-related at least. Sounds more like ways to avoid ip blocks or something.
[23:50:53] <Winton>	apologies - anyone know the 'correct' way to mirror enwiki to Amazon S3? 
[23:52:05] <Annemarie>	The dumps you mean?
[23:52:28] <Winton>	yep
[23:52:42] <Winton>	is there a way to rsync just the diffs ? 
[23:53:08] <Annemarie>	tomaszf is the dump man.
[23:53:24] <tomaszf>	WInton: what are you trying to setup ?
[23:53:49] <Winton>	Well, I use wikipedia to compute similarity matrices for topics
[23:54:03] <tomaszf>	you might want to hold off on that, were going to be pushing the dumps as regular snapshots to the public data sets that amazon provides
[23:54:08] <tomaszf>	i've already been chatting with them
[23:54:10] <Winton>	awesome
[23:54:14] <tomaszf>	will save you all the transfer time
[23:54:21] <Winton>	any idea when this will go into production?
[23:54:45] <tomaszf>	all i need is for the DE snapshot to finish and then i'll tell them to pull
[23:54:51] <Winton>	also, any chance you can work with the page-views guys to get those on to teh public data sets 
[23:55:03] <Winton>	someone has already published a fixed set
[23:55:14] <tomaszf>	potentially, this is going to be our first push
[23:55:15] <Winton>	but it'd be nice to just have those pushed as they come
[23:55:18] <brion>	p858snake|sleep: no section of that name. got an updated link?
[23:55:28] <tomaszf>	and i want to make sure it stay fresh, then i'll worry about adding more on top
[23:55:39] <Winton>	is there a blog post about this I can follow?
[23:55:46] <Winton>	or User talk I guess
[23:55:49] <brion>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28miscellaneous%29/Archive_21#www.baiamonti.it_advertising_techniques_to_breach_security_of_Wikipedia
[23:56:04] <tomaszf>	i have one drafted but was waiting to have amazon do the first pull and post it before i said anything
[23:56:30] <tomaszf>	but its all in the works, they pretty excited about having them
[23:56:42] <Winton>	thats great, Freebase is coolm but its pre-digested
[23:57:33] <tomaszf>	my push was to have as raw of a snapshot as possible so that everyone could work with it as was best for them
[23:57:33] <brion>	looks like "how to avoid a block" crap -- use proxies, tor, switch ips, use different mail address, bla bla. nothing exciitng
[23:57:53] <^demon>	tomaszf: That's freakin' awesmoe
[23:57:59] <tomaszf>	:D
[23:58:06] <Winton>	You'll push the xml tarball as well?
[23:58:17] <^demon>	brion: That's what I said ~50 lines up :P
[23:58:20] <brion>	:D
[23:58:39] <tomaszf>	right now it will be the same pieces you see for any wiki dump .. all the xml/sql/etc
[23:58:48] <tomaszf>	think of it as another mirror
[23:59:32] <tomaszf>	once that's in place we can move onto to other fun public data to mirror there
[23:59:43] <brion>	^demon: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/54409 is kinda funky. if it doesn't work, maybe just remove it for now? :)