,<h1> should check $wgUser->isAllowed( 'createaccount' ) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20115 trivial; Normal; MediaWiki: User login/settings; (jidanni) [19:52:59] <nanotube> i wonder why not... [19:53:42] <wikibugs> 03(ASSIGNED) Ghost entries in bgwiki.categorylinks; wanted categories affected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12168 +comment (10rhalsell) [19:54:16] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Special:UserLogin <title>,<h1> should check $wgUser->isAllowed( 'createaccount' ) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20115 (10jidanni) [19:56:16] <Emufarmers_> Church_of_emacs: ExtensionDistributor is a little goofy in what it includes; see some of the bugs in https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=extensiondistributor [19:56:24] <Reedy> Roan on holiday or something atm? [19:56:42] <Emufarmers_> Though I thought the problem was more that it _only_ works for extensions that are in trunk... [19:56:42] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Enable Extension:Nuke on all but largest wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15685 +comment (10rhalsell) [19:57:47] <GreenReaper> Giving nuclear weapons to every administrator? Has the wiki gone mad? [19:57:58] <Reedy> Muahahha [19:58:03] <Reedy> en.wp has had it a while [19:59:29] <svip> Best review of 2012: "It's a movie that has it all, and then destroys it." [20:01:04] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Enable flood flag on Simple English Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19152 +comment (10rhalsell) [20:01:52] <cirwin> what does Nuke do? [20:02:17] <Emufarmers_> !e Nuke | cirwin [20:02:17] --mwbot-- cirwin: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Nuke [20:02:57] <cirwin> ooh [20:02:59] <cirwin> could be fun [20:03:10] <Reedy> Someone go nuke Smackbot on en.wp ;D [20:04:07] <Church_of_emacs> Emachman, thanks for the info... though I still don't know why the extension isn't included. [20:04:15] <Emufarmers_> >_> [20:04:17] <Emachman> >_< [20:04:20] *RobH updates that page [20:04:26] <Emufarmers_> Why does everybody always mis-tab-complete my name. :-( [20:04:27] <RobH> its running on all wikimedia projects now =] [20:04:54] <wikibugs> 03(mod) please create 'Auteur' namespace at fr.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20094 (10brion) [20:05:37] <Emufarmers_> http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=24996 <-- what the experts know about Nuke. [20:05:55] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Scrolling issues with Wikipedia Mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20100 (10brion) [20:09:04] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) "Username:" entry box on Special:NewPages looks like Log In box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20116 trivial; Normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (jidanni) [20:10:54] <wikibugs> 03(ASSIGNED) UsernameBlacklist should be disabled on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15888 +comment (10rhalsell) [20:11:28] <mallory> i just moved my wiki files into a different directory and everything broke [20:13:28] <cirwin> mallory: what do you mean by everything? [20:15:22] <mallory> must I change something other than the LocalSettings.php? [20:16:19] <Emufarmers_> mallory: what's the error? [20:16:33] <mallory> 404 Not Found [20:16:44] <mallory> thank you, Emufarmers_ for helping ! [20:17:13] <Emufarmers_> Well, if you have rewrite rules or aliases in place you'd need to update those [20:17:43] <mallory> I didn't modify anything in apache [20:18:13] <Emufarmers_> Link? [20:18:20] <CIA-32> 03brion * r54598 10/branches/wmf-deployment/ (22 files in 15 dirs): [20:18:20] <CIA-32> Merge r53427, r53344 from trunk... [20:18:20] <CIA-32> * fix for tooltips in vector [20:18:20] <CIA-32> * plainlinks class to common styles, so now included in Vector [20:18:29] <mallory> so i installed it in a web directory, no folder. like website.net ...but now i want it in website.net/wiki [20:18:50] <Emufarmers_> Ah, you've seen the error of your ways; good :-) [20:19:29] <mallory> my attempt to fix my error has actually produced the error, however [20:20:22] <Emufarmers_> Getting MW to a new directory is going to be a pain if you've got other stuff cluttering up the web root; I would just re-download MediaWiki, put it in /w, and move LocalSettings.php, /images, and /extensions over [20:22:25] <mallory> there's nothing in the web root actually. i just moved everything into a directory "wiki". but i guess eventually there will be something there...so ok. i use the same db, right? [20:22:44] <mallory> now, i don't want to make another silly directory-naming mistake. so can i put it in "wiki" or should i use "w"? [20:23:14] <Emufarmers_> Well, the Wikimedia scheme is to have the directory be /w and then the article path be /wiki [20:23:37] <Emufarmers_> So you get example.com/wiki/Foo and example.com/w/index.php?title=Foo&action=edit [20:24:01] <Emufarmers_> Do you have root access to your server? [20:24:23] <CIA-32> 03tparscal * r54599 10/trunk/phase3/skins/common/edit.js: Opera 8 can't get a ref to a form element, so it was just spitting out errors. This checks the form element is valid before trying to use it. [20:25:06] <CIA-32> 03tparscal * r54600 10/trunk/phase3/skins/common/edit.js: Removed a debugging statement! r54599 must use this too! [20:25:58] <mallory> yes [20:26:17] <Emufarmers_> Great: you can just follow http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL#Recommended_how-to_guide_.28setup_used_on_Wikipedia.29 then [20:28:09] <GreenReaper> That way you can exclude /w/ from robots and so prevent them using up your precious CPU. [20:28:16] <mallory> Emufarmers_ you've been great. I appreciate it! [20:28:18] <GreenReaper> while letting them roam free in /wiki/ [20:28:28] <mallory> Thanks, GreenReaper [20:34:49] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) New usable skin isn't — Explicit font sizing considered harmful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20117 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Vector Skin; (gmaxwell) [20:35:22] <wikibugs> 03(mod) New usable skin isn't — Explicit font sizing considered harmful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20117 (10gmaxwell) [20:45:06] <Mike_lifeguard> greg++ [20:45:43] <chuck> TrevorParscal: Do you think it could be possible for the "Advanced" toolbar to be open by default? Headings are a commonplace of articles, and I've felt that it's kind of annoying to always have to open it up [20:45:59] <chuck> or maybe just move the heading dropdown to the main toolbar [20:46:04] <Mike_lifeguard> no, headings should be moved out of advanced, rather than it being open all the time [20:46:16] <werdna> yes, and the interface should be easier to use for headings [20:46:23] <TrevorParscal> um, it remains open from page to page via a cookie [20:46:39] <Mike_lifeguard> having them there is wrong; having it open would be more wrong -- instead, fix the mistake of calling headings "advanced" :) [20:46:40] <Sonja> how do i edit the css? is it main.css common.css monobook.css or are there others? [20:46:55] <Emufarmers_> MediaWiki:Common.css o: [20:47:32] <Sonja> hai! [20:48:57] <Annemarie> Don't edit the actual CSS files. Edit the wiki pages. [20:57:00] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Vector skin uses explicit instead of relative font sizes; ignores browser font size defaults - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20117 (10brion) [21:01:03] <Reedy> Gonna have to setup a MW test wiki [21:01:03] <Reedy> hm [21:01:10] <Church_of_emacs> Tim-away, some weeks ago you said RevisionDelete could probably be enabled on dewiki. The bug is still open... :) https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19697 [21:01:52] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) UsernameBlacklist should be disabled on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15888 (10rhalsell) [21:02:16] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Add section edit link for 0th section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 -accessibility ; +comment (10mike.lifeguard) [21:03:02] <CIA-32> 03tparscal * r54601 10/trunk/phase3/skins/vector/ (main-ltr.css main-rtl.css): Changed from using point to em units for font size. [21:03:38] <CIA-32> 03tparscal * r54602 10/trunk/phase3/skins/Vector.php: Moved some things around to please Apple Dictionary... some more... [21:05:54] <CIA-32> 03mrzman * r54603 10/trunk/extensions/IndexFunction/IndexFunction.php: Use $wgTitle for BC w/ older MediaWiki [21:06:22] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Vector skin uses explicit instead of relative font sizes; ignores browser font size defaults - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20117 (10brion) [21:08:56] <^demon> brion: Did you still want to do the FR conf today? [21:09:10] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Set $aliases['en']['AbuseFilter'] = array( 'EditFilter', 'AbuseFilter' ) for enwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19618 (10matthew.britton) [21:10:55] <CIA-32> 03tparscal * r54604 10/trunk/phase3/skins/vector/ (main-ltr.css main-rtl.css): Removed bullet icons from Vector drop down menus in older versions of IE. [21:12:52] <CIA-32> 03mrzman * r54605 10/trunk/extensions/IndexFunction/SpecialIndex.php: Copy DatabaseBase::unionQueries() from trunk for BC [21:12:54] <wikibugs> 03(FIXED) Vector skin uses explicit instead of relative font sizes; ignores browser font size defaults - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20117 +comment (10tparscal) [21:13:09] <brion> ^demon: in a sec [21:13:54] <^demon> k [21:15:00] <chuck> Mike_lifeguard: yeah, moving them out would make more sense [21:15:23] <TrevorParscal> what should I check to know (in php) what skin is being used? [21:15:32] <CIA-32> 03mrzman * r54606 10/trunk/extensions/IndexFunction/SpecialIndex.php: Fix title normalization [21:15:42] <chuck> !class User [21:15:42] --mwbot-- See http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/classUser.html [21:15:44] <Mike_lifeguard> chuck: sorry, what are we talking about? [21:15:53] <chuck> Mike_lifeguard: the headings under the advanced tab thing [21:15:54] <Mike_lifeguard> oh, right [21:15:56] <werdna> chuck: $wgUser->getSkin() [21:16:15] <MrZ-man> bah, this is what I get for trying to develop an extension compatible with 1.14, while using trunk [21:16:39] <Emufarmers_> s/chuck/TrevorParscal? ^ [21:16:42] <chuck> yeah [21:16:45] <^demon> TrevorParscal: Is there a way with the new edit toolbar to disable the "navigate away from this page" warning (or is there a bug open already requesting this)? [21:17:08] <chuck> werdna: is that it? i see a static getSkin method and it doesn't look like that's what trevor was asking for [21:17:32] <brion> ^demon: ok did we get the FR for MW thing in BZ? [21:17:37] <chuck> oh I understand now [21:18:06] <^demon> brion: No I threw some notes on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:^demon/FlaggedRevs because I wasn't 100% sure on how we'd config it yet. [21:18:08] <TrevorParscal> ^demon: it's a feature... [21:18:12] <^demon> :p [21:18:17] <brion> supa, lemme poke it up [21:18:41] <TrevorParscal> so - what var should I check to know what skin is bein [21:18:43] <TrevorParscal> used [21:18:52] <TrevorParscal> even if it's via the useskin param for instance [21:19:09] <brion> looks pretty straightforward ^demon :D lemme try it out [21:19:12] <brion> gotta set up the tables first... [21:19:16] <werdna> TrevorParscal: $wgUser->getSkin() [21:19:18] <Mike_lifeguard> it's a feature? [21:19:22] <^demon> brion: Awesome. [21:19:26] *Mike_lifeguard shakes his head, disbelieving [21:19:26] <chuck> TrevorParscal: the getSkin parameter takes useskin and stuff into account [21:19:34] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Add section edit link for 0th section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 +comment (10hartman) [21:19:58] <thedj> yikes there are many folks on that bug... [21:20:26] <^demon> thedj: Yeah, a bug I've made sure to never add myself too. [21:20:52] <^demon> 2007 is possibly the worst bug to be CC'd on. [21:20:54] <thedj> well i don't get mail from bugs luckily. [21:21:07] <thedj> i just have good search queries. [21:21:29] <CIA-32> 03tparscal * r54607 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditWarning/ (EditWarning.hooks.php EditWarning.js): Moved the "only use this for vector" logic out to the PHP level so we aren't sending jquery to people without any need for it. [21:22:08] <brion> yay [21:22:29] *Emufarmers_ ccs ^demon for date delinking :D [21:22:30] <TrevorParscal> that's a crappy way to please the Opera8 people too [21:22:35] <chuck> s/parameter/function/ argh [21:22:46] <^demon> Emufarmers_: Why? [21:22:52] <flyingparchment> why would people be using opera 8 anyway? [21:22:58] <thedj> i have no idea. [21:23:08] <thedj> they guy also used win98 [21:23:09] <Emufarmers_> ^demon: I just meant in terms of crappy, violence-inducing bugs [21:23:11] <^demon> flyingparchment: Because he likes how it handles RSS feeds [21:23:12] <chuck> TrevorParscal: are you working on improving performance of MediaWiki on the HTML/CSS/JS side? [21:23:13] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Deploy LiquidThreads on strategy.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20118 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (agarrett) [21:23:20] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Alert the user if he receive a reply anywhere in the discussion pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19388 (10agarrett) [21:23:23] <CIA-32> 03siebrand * r54608 10/trunk/extensions/Configure/Configure.settings.i18n.php: Update capitalisation [21:23:24] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Delete threads in discussion page if the page is deleted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19409 (10agarrett) [21:23:29] <wikibugs> 03(mod) LiquidThreads history is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19459 (10agarrett) [21:23:32] <thedj> chuck: more usability. [21:23:34] <werdna> sorry for the spam [21:23:37] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Mechanism to re-merge threads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19787 (10agarrett) [21:23:39] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Need to tweak thread search results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20002 (10agarrett) [21:23:39] <chuck> ah [21:23:43] <wikibugs> 03(mod) LiquidThreads needs to update its ID/Username storage when users are renamed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20095 (10agarrett) [21:23:46] <wikibugs> 03(mod) LiquidThreads search does not search the thread subject - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20003 (10agarrett) [21:23:52] <werdna> wouldn't be the first spam of mine today ;) [21:24:00] <thedj> chuck: mdale is working on some JS improvements apparently. [21:24:11] <TrevorParscal> chuck: yes [21:24:12] <brion> ok now i gotta actually enabled FR :) [21:24:14] <TrevorParscal> I'm working with him [21:24:16] <brion> check if sync-dblist has been fixed up... [21:24:24] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Deploy LiquidThreads on strategy.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20118 (10agarrett) [21:24:24] <svip> Hm. [21:24:26] <wikibugs> 03(ASSIGNED) jQuery is breaking mwsuggest preventing users of Opera 8 to log into en.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19586 +comment (10tparscal) [21:24:26] <TrevorParscal> you will notice the use of combined and minified javascript more and more [21:24:44] <brion> nope! time to fix it... [21:24:48] <CIA-32> 03diana * r54609 10/trunk/extensions/DonationInterface/: Add directory to hold donation interface extensions. [21:25:13] <svip> Maybe I should make a change to the CodeReview extension, so it can support git as well. [21:25:15] <mdale> yea all extension writes should read: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ScriptLoader#How_to_use_the_ScriptLoader_in_your_Extension [21:25:29] <^demon> svip: That would be awesome. [21:25:37] <chuck> TrevorParscal: Well I'm no performance master or anything, but I've been reading an ebook that you guys might be interested in seeing if that's what you're working on. [21:25:45] <svip> ^demon: o_o I guess that means I am on it. [21:26:00] <CIA-32> 03siebrand * r54610 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/wikimedia-mobile/mobile.yml: Make description message on Special:Translate localisable [21:26:13] <TrevorParscal> chuck: right on [21:26:27] <Reedy> Where would $this->talkids (ie the talkids part) be declared that is used in ApiQueryInfo.php ? [21:26:38] <svip> ^demon: Should I make a bugreport on this enhancement? [21:26:44] <TrevorParscal> well, I've been doing allot of synchrnoization testing, making the page load fast and doing some stuff later on that can be... [21:26:47] <chuck> it's not free, but it's got a ton of information about performance and best practices and it comes with a tool called DOM monster that scans through the page looking for potential problems and things that could be changed to be made faster [21:26:52] <^demon> svip: If you want. I have like 0 time to help on that though :P [21:27:02] <svip> ^demon: Others might. [21:27:04] <TrevorParscal> chuck: I use YSlow [21:27:10] <mdale> once we have everything in addScriptClass form it won't be as risky to put the js at the bottom of the page.. since we know there won't be any actual javascript in mScirpts output string [21:27:15] <OverlordQ> svip: make it support PG too ;) [21:27:16] <Emufarmers_> [16:34:20] <werdna> we should do a checklist for having your wiki render Wikipedia content <-- thttp://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Emufarmers/Mirroring_Wikipedia gud? [21:27:21] <svip> OverlordQ: PG? [21:27:24] <OverlordQ> postgres [21:27:27] <svip> Isn't that a TV rating? [21:27:28] <svip> Oh. [21:27:49] <OverlordQ> wikipedia is rated TV MA for strong language and violance [21:28:05] <svip> And sexual references and drug references? [21:28:10] <svip> And discrimination? [21:28:13] *TrevorParscal agrees that postgres should involve parental supervision [21:28:24] <GreenReaper> svip: Only against preps. [21:28:28] <TrevorParscal> s/supervision/guidence [21:28:42] <Emufarmers_> chuck: mention performance within a hundred-mile radius of GreenReaper and you'll have enough to keep you busy for a few years. :-) [21:29:07] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Add section edit link for 0th section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 (10jidanni) [21:29:39] <CIA-32> 03dale * r54611 10/trunk/extensions/WikiAtHome/WikiAtHome.php: added a explicit keyframeInterval per gmaxwell's mention on wikitech-l. (I get ffmpeg2theora: unrecognized option `--buf-delay for adding in buf-delay) [21:29:42] <werdna> Emufarmers_: you try getting domas started whenever somebody suggests PG and varnish [21:29:45] <werdna> and lighttpd [21:30:06] <domas> what? [21:30:08] <domas> I love them all [21:30:12] <domas> PG and varnish and lighttpd [21:31:09] *domas tries running mediawiki on drizzle [21:31:22] <Emufarmers_> werdna: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Emufarmers/Mirroring_Wikipedia ? [21:31:24] <CIA-32> 03diana * r54612 10/trunk/extensions/DonationInterface/ (17 files in 4 dirs): Initial commit of C2P2 project extensions. [21:32:24] <OverlordQ> evil evil tidy [21:33:01] <brion> ^demon: ok, working on help, lemme fix for manual... [21:33:29] <^demon> Alrighty. [21:34:13] <brion> boo-yah [21:34:25] <werdna> Emufarmers_: handy [21:34:44] <brion> now how do we hand out those review permissions :) [21:34:55] <^demon> Editor + reviewer groups [21:35:10] <werdna> and coder maybe [21:35:21] <chuck> performance tuning past the server level is kind of hard on a user editable site :P [21:35:42] <chuck> a lot of problems are introduced by what users have done [21:37:15] <CIA-32> 03tparscal * r54613 10/trunk/phase3/skins/vector/ (main-ltr.css main-rtl.css): Fixed IE5 bug that made the simple search input area too large. [21:37:31] *Emufarmers_ muses about whether his page belongs in the main namespace or the Manual: namespace [21:37:56] <^demon> Ok awesome. Gonna play with this all later. Off to dinner with family. [21:37:57] <werdna> IE5 bug? [21:39:11] <svip> Can $wgRequest make a select input element? [21:39:20] <Nikerabbit> what? [21:39:36] <svip> Doesn't it make form elements? [21:39:40] <svip> Meh, wait, I guess not. [21:39:47] <Nikerabbit> it doesn't make anything [21:39:52] <Nikerabbit> just nice wrapper around the data [21:40:48] <Emufarmers_> http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Want&curid=39780&diff=269723&oldid=269207&rcid=299752 do not want? [21:41:47] <svip> Nikerabbit: Can I do it with Xml:: then? [21:44:33] <Nikerabbit> mebbe "it" [21:44:41] <svip> huh [21:46:28] <svip> Nikerabbit: I am just asking how to make a select input element with Xml::. [21:47:21] <Platonides> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Article_count say that pages counted "are no stubs containing a link," and "are not disambiguation pages." [21:47:21] <Platonides> However, the Article class doesn't seem to account for that. [21:47:21] <Platonides> Can anyone confirm that they are indeed not counted or should I just remove those entries as false? [21:47:34] <Reedy> <query xml:space="preserve">Unrecognized value for parameter 'prop': watched</query> - Any suggestions why im still getting that after adding the parameter to ApiBase :: PARAM_TYPE? [21:47:52] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Sortable tables don't properly sort lists of names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8288 +comment (10bugzilla.wikimedia) [21:48:18] <Nikerabbit> svip: there is XmlSelector etc... [21:48:24] *Aaron|notebook watches MW.org [21:48:53] <Emufarmers_> Hmm, http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual:Article_count&diff=260116&oldid=236716 [21:49:05] <Emufarmers_> @Platonides [21:49:12] <Aaron|notebook> brion: shouldn't coders have some rights? [21:49:31] <Sonja> saluton brion [21:49:36] <Emufarmers_> We coders demand the right to marry! [21:49:46] <Sonja> same sex coders! [21:50:11] <werdna> Sonja: well we have very few female coders, so that's closer to the truth than you think [21:50:48] <Emufarmers_> Aaron|notebook: "Autoconfirmed users have their edits to non-reviewable pages autopatrolled by default." what does this mean, exactly? [21:51:21] <brion> Aaron|notebook: coders have no rights! i cursh themmmm! :) [21:51:28] <brion> let's see what we can poke... [21:51:36] <brion> sal Sonja, kio okazas? [21:52:42] <brion> i think the 'no such special page' message could use a 'did you mean' spelling search ;) [21:54:51] <brion> ok dudes, coders should now be able to do FR stuff [21:55:36] <brion> i... think [21:56:06] <Simetrical> Who should be coders? [21:56:09] <Simetrical> Anyone with commit access? [21:56:19] <brion> mostly i think [21:56:27] <brion> also there's the general editor & reviewer groups for default fr config [21:56:55] <brion> AaronSchulz: anything else we need to poke while we're on that? and let's find that proposed enwiki config... [21:58:31] <wikibugs> 03(mod) prop=info&inprop=watched - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19523 (10sam) [22:00:03] <Emufarmers_> brion: shouldn't coders get the Editor rights too? [22:00:46] <brion> what's missing Emufarmers_ ? [22:00:50] *brion peeks again at the perm list [22:00:55] <brion> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights [22:01:01] <Emufarmers_> unreviewedpages, among other things [22:01:09] <brion> oooh [22:01:48] <Reedy> Any bored/non busy devs wanna try and help me? :P [22:02:00] <AaronSchulz> brion: what about Extension: pages? [22:02:39] <brion> possibly wise... [22:02:50] <GreenReaper> Sonja: From what I've seen, I have to wonder how many coders *aren't* the same sex . . . [22:03:33] <Platonides> Emufarmers_, I saw that, but I don't see in the code where is that done [22:03:52] <Emufarmers_> Platonides: well, he might be wrong. I just meant to say that it was added recently [22:03:54] <Platonides> in fact it doesn't even check for links, just for containing "[[" [22:04:03] <Emufarmers_> that he added that to the page recently, that is [22:04:32] <Simetrical> brion, hooray for your upcoming demotion! :) [22:04:39] <Platonides> oh, interesting [22:04:43] <brion> :D [22:04:44] <Platonides> i didn't notice it was in 2008 [22:04:53] <Platonides> *2009 [22:06:14] <OverlordQ> so if I want to submit a fix I have to keep in mind it has to work with mysql 4 so no subqueries right? [22:06:40] <Simetrical> OverlordQ, right. [22:06:53] <Simetrical> Wow, we still only have 350 servers? I thought we must be up to like 500 by now at least. [22:07:05] <Annemarie> What are you reading, Sim? [22:07:13] <Simetrical> Annemarie, http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/08/cto-position-split/ [22:07:20] <Annemarie> Ah. [22:07:23] <Annemarie> Thanks. [22:08:25] <Annemarie> Oooh, nice. [22:17:02] <brion> Simetrical: we actually cut down a lot since we consolidated some of the older boxes to faster multicore ones :) [22:17:14] <brion> and taking down yaseo has also reduced the count recently [22:17:24] <brion> it'll bounce back up a bit shortly as we'll be bringing in some new squid proxies [22:18:03] <svip> :S brion [22:18:14] <svip> CodeReview has svn pretty tightly integrated. [22:19:39] <AaronSchulz> brion: firefox crashed....again [22:19:45] <chuck> svip: I was considering rewriting the necessary parts to make version control more modular [22:19:50] <brion> svip: yep. not impossible to restructure it though [22:19:56] <brion> hehe [22:19:57] <brion> ahh, firefox [22:20:03] <svip> brion: True. [22:20:07] <svip> But work nonetheless. [22:20:14] <brion> damn that owrk ;) [22:20:37] <chuck> yeah it would be a pretty big task :P stuff like revision ids are in MySQL as being an integer probably, etc [22:20:52] <svip> o_O Oi. [22:21:03] <svip> I forgot git's revision ids. [22:21:07] <chuck> sha hashes [22:21:26] <chuck> 07e6de7277725bc3418474061cb1137d3f135118 as an example [22:21:27] <werdna> You know you're a nerd when you follow fictional cats on twitter [22:21:28] *werdna sighs [22:21:43] <OverlordQ> depends on which one [22:21:51] *brion slaps werdna around with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_cats [22:21:59] <chuck> that better not be a real list [22:22:07] <werdna> ah, Wikipedia [22:22:13] <chuck> oh my gosh xD [22:22:47] <brion> first edit 2002-09-10 [22:22:57] <brion> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_fictional_cats&oldid=210346 [22:23:28] <chuck> nominated for deletion a few years ago too [22:24:08] <OverlordQ> of course pokemon has it's own section [22:25:13] <svip> Blah. [22:25:19] <svip> 11s is too long to wait for a page to download. [22:25:31] <svip> woot, why is my server so slow suddenly [22:26:03] <svip> Oh, it's that French site again. [22:26:25] <svip> GreenReaper knows... [22:33:03] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Complex categories with language / level names to be supported. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20119 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Babel; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [22:40:40] <wikibugs> 03(mod) PHPunit tests in .../phase3/tests/ directory no longer work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20077 +comment (10innocentkiller) [22:48:13] <wikibugs> 04(REOPENED) Add code used for template vandalism to wgSpamRegex - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15190 +comment (10mike.lifeguard) [22:50:43] <ekimmargni> lagfail [22:50:55] <ekimmargni> hmm, thunder! [22:54:46] <wikibugs> 03(mod) PHPunit tests in .../phase3/tests/ directory no longer work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20077 (10dnessett) [22:59:36] <jlhenry> I have got a problem with thumbnails generation on a MW wiki family. Thumb generation works on the repository, but not from the other wiki. Configuration and http log here: http://dpaste.org/m9OB/ [22:59:39] <jlhenry> Any idea? [23:00:05] <CIA-32> 03dale * r54614 10/trunk/phase3/js2/ (5 files in 4 dirs): [23:00:05] <CIA-32> * sequence fixes for adding new media ( was adding new clips with generic playback library instead of type based playback lib clips) [23:00:05] <CIA-32> * fixed bug where drag and drop of clips did not work where you re-arranged clips while not displaying the add-media-wizard tab [23:00:05] <CIA-32> * fixed display of sequence playhead on clip click [23:00:06] <CIA-32> * added deselect of clips on escape [23:00:10] <CIA-32> * Other minor code cleanup [23:07:32] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Difficult to use on Nokia N97 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20120 minor; Normal; Wikipedia Mobile: server; (kevin) [23:30:52] <jlhenry> I have have a problem with thumbnails generation on a wiki family. Thumb generation works perfectly on the repository, but not from other wiki. Farm configuration and http log here: http://dpaste.org/m9OB/ . Any idea? [23:32:14] <brion> jlhenry: well offhand i'd guess you haven't set up a 404 handler that would pass the requests on to thumb.php? [23:33:13] <jlhenry> brion, you are right. But I thought that it was handled automaticaly. I'm going to try this. [23:33:26] <brion> nope, you need to set that up if you do it that way [23:34:20] <brion> however if these are local, you might want to just let it do transformation on parse [23:34:41] <CIA-32> 03nad * r54615 10/trunk/extensions/SimpleSecurity/ (SimpleSecurity.php SimpleSecurity_body.php): add meta tag so that restricted pages are not archived by robots [23:34:50] <brion> in which case you'd need to set 'directory' in the repo config [23:39:04] <jlhenry> I prefer that way (I do not like writing another mod rewrite conf). 'directory' make it work! [23:39:19] <wikibugs> 03(mod) PHPunit tests in .../phase3/tests/ directory no longer work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20077 (10dnessett) [23:39:28] <brion> yay [23:39:43] <jlhenry> May be it would be good to include "directory" inside this help: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgForeignFileRepos#Using_files_from_a_database_that_you_can_access_:_ForeignDBRepo [23:40:15] <jlhenry> I can add it if you want. [23:42:23] <brion> jlhenry: just did it :) [23:42:44] <jlhenry> thanks :) [23:45:12] <jlhenry> And btw, thanks so much for this wonderful application!!! :) [23:48:36] <brion> :D [23:51:44] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) JS Reply button broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20121 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (agarrett) [23:51:47] <wikibugs> 03(mod) Deploy LiquidThreads on strategy.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20118 (10agarrett) [23:54:27] <p858snake|sleep> brion: someone might like go though https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ApKtTwwJL0lsdE02dDYwVDlPNDdWQnA4cGFtWU1DU2c&hl=en (lists of sites wanting extenstions installed) and close some of the bugzilla requests.... some of them date back to '04, some are possibly outdated by core, some are just unwanted (eg: DPL) [23:55:21] <CIA-32> 03nad * r54616 10/trunk/extensions/SimpleSecurity/SimpleSecurity_body.php: move robots meta to UserGetRights hoom instead of OutputPageBeforeHTML [23:56:16] <brion> p858snake: thx, we'll poke over it :D [23:56:51] <p858snake> those are the ones i found >.> there will be more miscategorized ones [23:58:31] <wikibugs> 03(NEW) Use of <noinclude> and <includeonly> tags in galleries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20122 normal; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (king.of.hearts.wiki)

[00:00:17] in importFromFile() in importDump.php [00:00:55] yeah in theory rt should work there i think [00:01:02] but if it doesn't it should be safe to remove [00:01:15] double-check that we're strippnig \r\n to \n just in case though :) [00:01:28] How do I do that? [00:02:04] 03daniel * r54543 10/trunk/WikiWord/WikiWordBuilder/src/ (8 files in 3 dirs): utils for using utf-8 for the id map [00:05:27] brion? [00:06:00] str_replace? :) [00:07:25] I am having a strange bug after installing media wiki, Fatal error: Cannot redeclare wfspeciallistusers() [00:07:32] I'll just have it do just r if it's 7zip. That sound okay? [00:08:02] I checked the php page, but the line it says it's be redeclared on is the last line of the document! [00:08:11] being* [00:08:31] JohnGames: what version of MediaWiki? [00:08:38] 1.15.1 [00:08:57] I think it must be the extenstion [00:09:24] if it is, I am out of luck, and will just have to find a new one [00:11:06] anyone know any good bug trackers for media wiki? [00:11:21] There's only one MediaWiki bug tracker . . . [00:11:26] What do you mean "for MediaWiki"? [00:11:37] I mean an extension [00:11:52] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:IssueTracker is what I was going to use [00:12:38] 03tparscal * r54556 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/OptIn/OptIn.hooks.php: Fixes security problem which adds all submitted data to the returnto url, even if it was posted (passwords! oh no!) - this now checks that it was NOT a post before using the data. [00:13:37] I followed the known bugs at the bottom, before anyone asks [00:13:55] There's no official one. [00:14:02] 03siebrand * r54557 10/trunk/extensions/IndexFunction/IndexFunction.i18n.php: Update formatting [00:14:03] Probably you'd be best off using a separate piece of software. [00:14:09] We use Bugzilla for tracking our bugs. [00:14:35] hmm, that's a shame, I need many bug trackers that work independentally [00:14:48] bug zilla would support that? [00:17:08] 03dale * r54558 10/trunk/phase3/includes/OutputPage.php: fixed bug in addClass append [00:24:53] 03brion * r54559 10/branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (. EditToolbar/images/ OptIn/OptIn.hooks.php): security fix from r54556 [00:26:44] I found my issue :) [00:27:00] anyway, thanks for your help other people! [00:27:09] it was a silly error on my hosts part [00:28:27] brion: the 7zip wrapper uses popen, which apparently doesn't like two-letter modes. [00:29:30] heh [00:29:32] 03siebrand * r54560 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (PageTranslation.i18n.php Translate.i18n.php): Update formatting [00:29:32] silly popen :P [00:31:32] Okay, that new Vector theme, I still DO NOT like the new search box position [00:31:55] And so it begins [00:32:36] Viper550: me neither [00:32:46] I think, maybe in the middle [00:32:52] with themed buttons [00:33:01] it looks really nice in the newest version [00:33:08] with the hourglass button embedded in the box [00:33:14] but it is completely hidden [00:34:24] middle, styled like the tabs, with a magnifying glass in the field or something [00:34:59] And then once we move that, we could move the user menus down there [00:35:00] well as long as it's not stuffed in a corner, it's fine - I like it on the left hand menu, but then that's what I'm used to so there may be a more optimal position [00:35:34] I think in the middle [00:36:36] could work, would there be space for it and an extra tab with all the normal buttons? [00:37:44] I meant, move it ABOVE the tab bar in the middle [00:37:52] oh [00:37:58] no, I don't like the sound of that much [00:38:05] or put it back on the sidebar [00:38:10] ++ [00:39:18] then go [Article][Discuss] -(space)- [Read][Edit][\/] -(space)- [ViperSnake151] [\/] [Log out] [00:39:21] http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Releases/Acai#Search_Anyone.3F [00:39:27] maybe add a comment there [00:39:31] <^demon> brion: I'm writing a syntax checking maint script. Then you can plug it into your testey thingie. [00:39:52] awesommmmeeeeeeee [00:39:53] [Entry][Talk][Citations] [00:39:56] *brion huggles ^demon [00:40:26] ok heading out for the night [00:40:29] have fun y'all [00:40:47] or move it to the left of the [read],etc tabs and style it like the tabs? [00:40:59] that would also hide it [00:41:16] it should be quite prominent given that it is an almost essential feature [00:41:41] unlike most sites where people either know what they want or know that the inbuilt search is too painful to use [00:43:56] no I meant, put it next to the tabs, and give it a silverish blue bg [00:44:21] I am not too good at imagining things [00:53:19] *Emufarmers crosses his fingers. [00:53:36] 03emufarmers * r54561 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [00:53:36] (bug 19289) importDump.php can now handle bzip2 and 7zip. [00:53:36] I split out our 7zip stream wrapper into its own file, 7zip.inc. [00:53:50] cirwin, see what deviantart does [00:54:26] that works [00:54:44] 03(FIXED) Make importDump.php handle bzip2 and 7zip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19289 (10Emufarmers) [00:54:58] when should i use wfMsgExt and when wfMsg ? [00:55:16] 03(mod) Make importDump.php handle bzip2 and 7zip - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19289 (10Emufarmers) [00:58:39] 03dale * r54562 10/trunk/extensions/WikiAtHome/WikiAtHome.php: * added two pass to encode setting for fixed bitrate encodes [01:06:22] 03(mod) jQuery is breaking mwsuggest preventing users of Opera 8 to log into en.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19586 (10hartman) [01:32:28] 03dale * r54563 10/trunk/phase3/js2/ (6 files in 4 dirs): fixed infinite loop bug on removing all clips from sequence [02:14:17] bah trust brion to run off for the night already [02:18:10] 03simetrical * r54564 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: Whitespace [02:27:30] Yeah, leaving work at 7 PM: what a slacker [02:31:46] ssh, just because i like working weird hours at night >.> [02:35:15] 03jeroendedauw * r54565 10/trunk/extensions/Maps/ (15 files in 4 dirs): Changes for 0.3 [02:35:50] 03jeroendedauw * r54566 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMaps/ (7 files in 4 dirs): Changes for 0.3 [02:36:41] 03(NEW) Getting an error when getting edit count - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20101 minor; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (stg_andy) [03:11:51] 14(INVALID) Getting an error when getting edit count - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20101 +comment (10mrzmanwiki) [03:13:53] MrZ-man: the link on http://stable.toolserver.org/editcount/result?username=Rockfang&projectname=enwiki&showgraphs=2d is to https://jira.ts.wikimedia.org/browse/EDITCOUNTER which doesn't work. [03:15:42] don't complain to me :P [03:19:02] omg, ah cant get mah edit count [03:20:45] https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ApKtTwwJL0lsdE02dDYwVDlPNDdWQnA4cGFtWU1DU2c&hl=en < i think we should go a closing rampage soon >.> [03:26:44] a closng rampage? [03:32:36] 03simetrical * r54567 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed) [03:32:37] Start using some HTML 5 form features [03:32:37] autofocus attribute added in some places; this looks like it's respected [03:32:37] by both recent Opera and recent WebKit. Its function is [03:32:37] self-explanatory. :) I used this in a few obvious places like [03:32:37] Special:UserLogin and Special:ResetPass to focus the first field in the [03:32:41] form. Could be used in other places too: Special:Search, etc. [03:32:41] \o/ [03:33:06] Optime! [03:35:49] Optime? [03:46:28] *Simetrical goes to sleep, his standards promotion duty done for the night [03:57:06] 03(NEW) Wikipedia does not call user's vector.js page in Vector skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20102 major; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (vinhtantran) [03:58:39] Simetrical: it's Latin. :p [04:06:23] 03(mod) cmnamespace in API categorymembers does not work on Wikimedia wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20072 +comment (10herd) [04:19:23] 03demon * r54568 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/syntaxChecker.php: Basic syntax checker. Needs to not be slow and support uploading to CodeReview. [04:23:44] 03shinjiman * r54569 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/OptIn/OptIn.i18n.php: Localisation updates Cantonese and Chinese for extension messages [04:29:18] 03demon * r54570 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/syntaxChecker.php: Keep track of failures and tweak final output [04:30:19] arrr [04:30:33] 14(INVALID) Wikipedia does not call user's vector.js page in Vector skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20102 (10vinhtantran) [04:30:35] 03(mod) Wikipedia does not call user's vector.js page in Vector skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20102 (10vinhtantran) [04:33:38] 03(mod) Logo change for pih.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20045 (10herd) [05:35:45] 03(FIXED) CSRF possible with Special:UsabilityInitiativeOptIn - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20099 +comment (10tparscal) [06:26:49] hi [06:28:30] How can I display content of a template in a skin file? [06:30:08] I have tried : [06:30:33] $id = Title::newFromText("Template:HomepageImages")->getArticleId(); $myArticle = Article::newFromId($id); echo $myArticle->getContent(); [06:30:45] but it displays the raw content. [06:30:51] anyone here? [06:38:46] 03shinjiman * r54571 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Localisation updates Cantonese and Chinese for extension messages [07:12:06] where can i edit "{{SITENAME}}" variable? because all of a sudden it keeps being shown instead of my real sitename [07:15:21] Hi people [07:15:53] Does anyone have any suggestions on how to rename a folder over ftp if the folder (wiki) is constantly in use? [07:16:58] in unix you can rename stuff at will, doesn't matter if it is used [07:17:01] is that windows server? [07:30:33] I got it fixed in the end, and it is a windows server (yes you can laugh domas) [07:30:45] I'm not laughing [07:31:23] I like it because it was free free. [07:33:10] Where do I place favicon.ico ? [07:34:52] in your web root as /favicon.ico [07:35:20] or wherever you want, and specify that location (as a web relative URL, not a folder relative path) in $wgFavicon [07:35:34] Do you know a directory of favicon templates... [07:35:47] yang, you can make one for free at many sites, just put in a png [07:36:11] thanks [07:36:31] I am trying to find the variable for the background image, it has to be somewhere in this faq... [07:38:28] background image? [07:38:45] the open book at the top left, behind the logo [07:39:01] that's done in CSS [07:39:21] there is one background image set: $wgLogo actually sets (oddly) [07:39:39] that is.. different [07:39:42] but to change the book, see skins/monobook/main.css (but don't change it there) [07:39:52] I will make [07:39:54] a duplicate skin [07:39:56] best is to overwrite the rule in MediaWiki:Monobook.css [07:40:00] and set it as a default [07:40:01] on-site [07:40:07] heh, duplicate skins get stale [07:40:16] hmm? [07:40:17] Splarka: puting it into /usr/share/mediawiki/favicon.ico refuses to load it? [07:40:18] if you upgrade you'll find stuff starting to break and have to re-fork [07:40:37] oh.. alright, did not think of that [07:40:38] yang: what is the URL to access it on the web? [07:41:00] JohnGames: generally best to just use Monobook if it is close to what you desire [07:41:09] and hack it to pieces in MediaWiki:Monobook.css and .js [07:41:17] Splarka, I only want to change one tiny image, I will do the simplest thing [07:41:22] yay [07:41:30] another one saved from insanity! [07:41:31] DocumentRoot /usr/share/mediawiki ServerName www.prunk.si [07:41:32] that makes... one [07:41:45] http://www.prunk.si/favicon.ico [07:41:47] just alter the image, and reupload on update [07:41:51] works for me, maybe you have bad cache? [07:41:59] maybe i need to reload cache, thanks [07:42:03] yang: try ctrl+f5 [07:42:06] some browsers suck at that [07:42:12] I believe that is cache refresh? [07:42:33] my host I hate for some reasons, sometimes you will fine duplicate files no matter what file manager you use [07:42:37] find* [07:42:44] same name, just.. odd [07:42:50] I remember an older version of Opera would cache a 302 redirect to a favicon so horribly, that a purge, cache clear, and bookmark clear wouldn't uncache it [07:43:02] heh [07:43:19] Splarka: I can see it on http://www.prunk.si/favicon.ico, but when I load www.prunk.si I don't see it loaded...do you see it? [07:43:30] *Splarka looks [07:43:32] I see it [07:43:46] I tried even ?action=purge [07:43:50] yah, me too [07:43:57] action=purge is server side [07:44:06] ... using ctrl+f5 [07:44:07] try it [07:44:10] try browser purge [07:44:10] I believe it's universal [07:44:15] ok [07:44:17] thanks [07:44:18] what browser? [07:46:00] I tried with firefox and konqueror [07:46:40] odd [07:46:56] ok it works now with iceape, must be my cache [07:48:19] I really find it funny [07:48:34] how much "trouble" I went through, for making a wiki no one will use, as a gift for a friend. [07:52:01] *Annemarie eats wikibugs [07:53:37] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20103 [07:53:39] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20104 [07:53:55] *p858snake forces Annemarie to use ubuntu and firefox with their special search plugin [07:54:15] lolbuntu [07:55:15] the search thing even breakes some google searches lol [07:56:21] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/402767 [07:57:27] 03(NEW) Add a dismiss link to the new messages bar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20104 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (public) [07:57:28] 03(NEW) Add revision count next to "my talk" for unread messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20103 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (public) [08:09:41] Hallo. I have installed Hebrew media-wiki, and I want to use {{#תנאי}} which should be equivalent to {{#if}}, but it looks like it does not exist (although it exists in the Hebrew wikipedia) [08:10:46] peleg: Do you have installed the ParserFunctions extension? [08:11:07] mgrabovsky, no; I thought it is built-in. I will, then; thanks! [08:12:31] peleg: You're welcome [08:34:01] mgrabovsky, thanks, it works. [08:35:16] 03(mod) Special:Statistics shows -1 active users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20017 (10bugzilla.wikimedia) [09:20:02] PHP Notice: Undefined offset: 0 in /var/www/w/includes/search/SearchEngine.php on line 895 [09:20:55] siebrand: a bug exists already [09:21:02] ok [09:34:43] 03siebrand * r54572 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (42 files): Localisation updates for core messages from translatewiki.net (2009-08-07 09:18 UTC) [09:47:47] 03siebrand * r54573 10/trunk/extensions/ (98 files in 95 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-08-07 09:18 UTC) [09:49:24] 03jojo * r54574 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/js/tooltip.js: removed [09:49:35] 03jojo * r54575 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.hooks.php: fix add/remove state when using popups [09:54:38] Is there an extension that creates a small versions of uploaded images? If so -- can I use it on already uploaded pictures? [09:59:38] hmm. I have $wgUseImageResize = true; on -- though, my "thumbnails" are still in their fullsize. What have I missed? [10:00:36] do you have imagemagick, gd or something else? [10:01:35] ialex, sure, I have imagemagick. Also, converting SVGs to bitmaps work [10:02:32] You can see here: http://arkanapedia.yogiley.org/index.php/%D7%A0%D7%9E%D7%A8_%D7%A1%D7%98%D7%99 -- the image in the table is of great size. [10:02:51] peleg: did you set $wgUseImageMagick = true; ? [10:03:14] Nein :-) [10:03:46] ialex, so, should I reupload all of my pics? [10:04:14] peleg: no [10:05:37] ialex, well, still in the page I've sent you I see a full resolution picture. Should I tell it somehow to use a reduced-size version? [10:06:41] peleg: you need to purge the page [10:07:09] with ?action=purge in the url [10:07:33] ialex, oh, nice! Thanks! [10:22:28] Hello .. I was just wondering if I would be able to start my own WIKI over a game I am creating. [10:22:50] Most people are able. [10:23:01] Well, most people who are intending to do it. [10:23:02] That is. [10:23:21] I bet the amount of people familiar with setting up a wiki is a minority. [10:23:26] Do I have to DL the software or is it all just through mediawiki website. [10:23:45] Well, depends on what you want. [10:23:54] If you want to control it yourself, you need to download it first. [10:24:04] However, if you are not in the mood for tat. [10:24:06] that* [10:24:11] You can try some WikiFarms instead. [10:24:16] Like YourWiki or Wikia. [10:25:04] Is the software meant to be running on wiki.org or is it meant to run on my own web address? [10:25:22] On yours. [10:25:33] mediawiki does not host anything for you. [10:25:37] They are not a wiki farm. [10:26:25] Thank you very much [10:49:10] werdna: Ping? [10:49:18] just ask the question [10:49:43] The site you complained about yesterday, search.cluenet.org, was today "improved" [10:49:52] It now returns 403 1/2 rather than 404 [10:50:30] ah, clever [10:54:41] werdna: It's no longer vulnerable to XSS [11:01:33] 03nikerabbit * r54576 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/rebuildLocalisationCache.php: [11:01:33] Was occassionally failing due to race condition caused by mt_rand behaviour: [11:01:33] cache/l10n_cache-en.cdb.tmp.1770228300 [11:01:33] cache/l10n_cache-en.cdb.tmp.1770228300 [11:15:04] 03nikerabbit * r54577 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/scripts/fuzzy.php: Convert spaces to underscores automatically [11:27:41] 03(NEW) maintenance/initStats.inc should set "active users" field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20105 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [11:41:22] the install page says "diff not found", but it is installed [11:41:46] why isn't it detected? same thing with imagemagick... [11:43:10] i run latest openbsd with apache chroot [11:44:25] webslave: probably an issue with the system path [11:44:31] 03ialex * r54578 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/clear_interwiki_cache.php: Fix E_ERROR: Call to a member function delete() on a non-object in maintenance/clear_interwiki_cache.php on line 45 [11:45:01] diff3 is probably not into the chroot [11:45:38] how do I move those programs into the chroot / link to them? [11:46:24] the install page is very unclear about this, only "not found"... [11:48:21] It also took me a long time to figure out that mysqli isn't supported... [11:59:37] 03thomasv * r54579 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ (ProofreadPage.i18n.php ProofreadPage.php): better text; add div for pagequality content [12:05:19] webslave, you would do something like: ln /usr/bin/diff3 /var/chroot/usr/bin/diff3 [12:07:58] I tried that, still no luck. [12:08:41] i tried hard links, soft links and copies, on four different files. [12:08:56] you can also manually set the path after installed, by setting $wgDiff3 [12:08:56] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgDiff3 [12:09:20] soft links can't send you outside the chroot [12:09:43] a hard link or a copy would [12:10:13] 14(DUP) maintenance/initStats.inc should set "active users" field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20105 +comment (10innocentkiller) [12:10:17] although you still need into the chroot the libraries the executables use [12:10:18] 03(mod) initStats does not refresh active_users count (with patch) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18930 +comment (10innocentkiller) [12:13:53] 03ialex * r54580 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/namespaceDupes.php: removed 'wiki' option, already present in Maintenance.php [12:16:42] <^demon> RecursiveDirectoryIterator is slow :-\ [12:19:05] if I set the path after installation, will that break the chroot? [12:19:24] so that I can use diff3 and imagemagick? [12:21:14] siebrand (re 54579) : I do not know who did the french translation of those messages but he/she has a very poor grammar and would be better off doing something else [12:21:57] ThomasV: tell him: http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=MediaWiki:Proofreadpage_quality3_message/fr&action=history [12:21:59] ask translate wiki to redo them? [12:26:23] i created a special page extension according to the manual, but it's name shows up as "<NAMEOFMYSPECIALPAGE>" .. any ideas why and how to fix it? [12:26:59] (it shows up like this in the list of special pages and as headline on the special page itself) [12:29:52] dgts: you need to define that interface message [12:30:11] or change the title by overriding SpecialPage::getName() (I think) [12:30:28] oh i fixed it, should've read the man page till the end.. [12:33:21] siebrand: if I modify the an English message, do its translations get somehow deprecated at translatewiki ? [12:35:04] yes. all messages which should be also updated get a tag [12:37:16] actually, that only fixed the headline on the special page. it still appears weird on Special:Specialpages.. (i used $wgOut->setPagetitle in the .body file of the special page extension) [12:38:49] 03shinjiman * r54581 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/OptIn/OptIn.js: added documentMode detection for IE8 if the user has been chosen for the IE7 compat mode or the site is in the compatibility list (forcing IE7 compat mode). [12:46:25] werdna, you were right, i forget to define that message.. [12:54:21] Suddenly I don't see images in my wiki; it's like that in the last hour. I don't see *any* image, including the logo. They all just disappeared. The image itself exists, but I think that something went wrong with the tag surrounging it. [12:55:07] See here: http://arkanapedia.yogiley.org/index.php/%D7%A7%D7%95%D7%91%D7%A5:BigCaesarianTigris.jpg [12:55:37] i see a tiger :> [12:55:57] great tiger :o [12:56:05] darn. What went wrong with my browser, then? I see images perfectly in wikipedia :) [12:56:25] clear cache or sth? [12:56:36] sth? [12:56:42] something [12:56:58] hmm. trying ... [12:58:54] cache clearing did not help. Trying "sth" [13:02:05] nothing. Do you see a leopard here: http://arkanapedia.yogiley.org/index.php/%D7%A0%D7%9E%D7%A8 ? [13:02:45] leopard's looking me [13:02:52] what browser do you use? [13:02:55] FF3 [13:03:08] I've seen these pics until an hour ago (or so) [13:03:27] is that a leopard? [13:03:50] puzzlet, yes. [13:04:12] so you see a blank instead? [13:04:35] I've experienced similar problem on youtube, and removing all cache manually (going to profile foler and etc.) rescued me [13:05:18] puzzlet, I see nothing -- as if that that encompasses the does not exist. It is also faded in firebug. [13:05:24] klutzy, I can try that. [13:06:07] klutzy, deleting everything inside the folder Cache/ ? [13:06:10] sounds like the adblock is malfuncting or something [13:06:26] yes, everything [13:06:27] puzzlet, I don't have any adblock (though I do have flashblock...) [13:06:39] actually i don't distinguish any file :p [13:06:49] can't [13:07:46] darn. mv: cannot move `.' to `/home/peleg/temp/cache/.': Device or resource busy [13:07:56] though FF is shut [13:09:05] uh. somebody is using your FF! :p [13:09:39] I think that's for another channel, then :) [13:10:05] Um, you can never move . [13:10:09] cd .. and try again. [13:10:23] Moving your own current working directory is forbidden. [13:11:29] ah! [13:11:37] thanks, I'll try that [13:12:24] nothing. It is too weird. [13:12:48] הוה עז כנמר! [13:12:55] I see it just fine. [13:14:12] Could you describe your symptoms in more detail? You don't see any images, what do you see? [13:14:26] Do they still take up space? Is there a "broken image" sort of picture? [13:14:41] Does it happen in other browsers, or on other computers? [13:14:47] Does it happen if you try on Firefox with a fresh profile? [13:15:00] Simetrical, I see nothing instead -- as if the tag around the tag wasn't even there. It happens only in this computer as far as I understand, but only in this website. [13:15:12] I haven't try with a fresh profile yet. [13:15:21] Does it happen if you log out? [13:15:46] Simetrical, yes. [13:16:41] Tried disabling extensions? [13:16:56] not yet -- doing it at the moment [13:17:13] Hi everyone, I thought I'd fix a bug (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19991) and I want to talk to someone who can give me a few pointers... [13:17:28] 03(FIXED) double title field - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19747 +comment (10hartman) [13:18:19] Micke, go ahead. [13:18:52] Simetrical, do you remember how to call FF's profile manager? [13:18:58] I think I need to have an array of all avalible timezones and I'm thinking about where to put it [13:19:04] peleg, not really, no. [13:19:24] can I make a TimeZone.php and put in in includes? [13:19:29] -p? [13:19:42] with --no-remote if you are running firefox already [13:19:51] Micke, hmm. I think it would be simpler to just allow the user to enter a numeral hour offset, and sniff that from their browser? [13:19:57] Well, I guess that's not fully sufficient, is it. [13:20:05] Because you need the string "EDT" or whatever. [13:20:28] Actually, it's worth pointing out that timezones are embedded in pages. [13:20:39] So it's not advisable to switch around between EDT and EST or whatever. [13:20:48] We're not really designed to do that well. :D [13:20:56] I see the leopard in a fresh profile. [13:21:02] Hmm, I guess you could. It would just be sort of confusing, you'd have a mix of EST and EDT. [13:21:10] peleg, try #firefox, or irc.mozilla.org. [13:21:18] right. [13:21:45] Anyway, do we really not already have a list of timezones somewhere? Maybe PHP makes one available built-in somehow? [13:21:46] I thought i'd modify config/index.php and put in something like the language selector and then add a section to LocalSettings.php acording to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Timezone [13:22:03] That might make sense . . . I'm not sure, TBH. [13:26:45] there is a list of valid Timezones here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_zoneinfo_time_zones I just need to stick it somwhere, since my thought was that it would be better for people to choose instead of having it choosen for them. [13:27:44] when using the {{#language:LANGCODE}}, is it possible to change what language code refers to what language? [13:28:04] Has anyone tried to integrate sIFR into Mediawiki? [13:28:12] for example, change DA back into DK [13:28:43] kevindanko, I haven't heard of it. [13:29:00] @ Simetrical, do you think it is possible? [13:29:09] TheCainer, you could use parser functions like {{#switch}}, if you really want. [13:29:23] hmm [13:29:24] kevindanko, I know almost nothing about sIFR, so I have no idea. [13:29:40] yeh, our system admin isn't exactly open for extensions :p [13:30:36] why not? [13:30:44] ^for thecainer [13:30:56] no clue [13:32:29] Note that ParserFunctions is an officially-supported extension used by Wikipedia, written and maintained by the same people who write and maintain MediaWiki. [13:32:44] So he can rest assured that it won't break on upgrades or anything like that. [13:33:51] 03(NEW) Error searching for "Swearing" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20106 critical; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (jensbroecher) [13:35:54] 03(mod) Chat rooms for individual pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11190 (10Platonides) [13:35:58] ^thats a dup of the "over this function bug [13:36:15] the NEW one, that is [13:39:06] 14(DUP) Error searching for "Swearing" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20106 +comment (10p858snake) [13:39:06] 03(mod) Override this function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20081 +comment (10p858snake) [13:43:38] 03(mod) Thumbnail styles in Main.css are too imprecise - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5061 (10hartman) [13:44:02] 03(mod) Thumbnail styles in Main.css are too imprecise - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5061 +easy +need-review +patch (10hartman) [14:00:39] 03(NEW) External Data messages contains unnecessary formatting - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20107 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (Eugene.Zelenko) [14:01:34] anyone a clue what happened to the "leave a redirect" option on Special:MovePage ? [14:01:57] 03(NEW) Special:AllPages fails when selecting project namespace at Strategy wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20108 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (Platonides) [14:05:45] 03ialex * r54582 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/updateSpecialPages.php: [14:05:45] * update identation [14:05:45] * added missing "global $wgQueryCacheLimit" [14:05:45] * require QueryPage.php to set $wgQueryPages correctly before using it [14:14:35] Has anyone tried to integrate sIFR into Mediawiki? [14:31:47] Who broke update.php? [14:31:47] Fatal error: Call to undefined method SiteStatsInit::doallandupdate() in /Users/andrew/wm-svn/phase3/maintenance/updaters.inc on line 1043 [14:33:06] demon? :o [14:33:21] I'm customizing CategoryPage.php so Imges are not listed. That works fine so far ut the prev/next links still use a total of all (subcats, articles, files). How would I change that in function pagingLinks()? Can't find a way to include $totalrescnt = count( $this->articles ) + count( $this->children ); there [14:36:28] GreenReaper: You got a link to configuring Squid as a reverse proxy for web requests to my apache? [14:36:34] A guide, that is. [14:38:51] Hmm. Not offhand. There's one from the Squid wiki but it kinda sucks. [14:39:02] Blah. [14:39:31] Stupid French server brought our server to a crawl - again. [14:39:36] Just by requesting a single static image. [14:39:43] By the thousands. [14:39:56] Yeah, that's what happens. [14:39:58] Some also suggested using apache-worker instead of prefork. [14:40:22] Or archive.org decides that it wants to crawl your site and ignore robots.txt [14:40:31] o_o [14:40:33] Does http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/ReverseProxy help? [14:40:51] Let me read and get back to you. [14:41:07] Yeah, that was a fun story: http://community.livejournal.com/wikifur/74717.html [14:41:34] We got hit by archive.org on behalf of the Library of Congress. [14:42:41] *svip salutes. [14:44:44] Was the image set to be cached? [14:44:46] 03werdna * r54583 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/updaters.inc: Fix apparent regression in r54225 [14:44:48] 03churchofemacs * r54584 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Preferences.php: using wgOut->parseInline for signature preview in preferences. following r54454 [14:45:00] GreenReaper: o_o I was not running anything magical. [14:45:04] Just apache. [14:45:09] So I guess the answer to that is "no" [14:45:13] I mean with an Expires header or the like. [14:45:16] using an apache directive. [14:45:43] You mean cached for each user? [14:46:08] No, I mean "Was an Expires: header sent with the response to the request for the static file?" [14:46:27] Honestly, I have no idea. I never checked. [14:46:30] or Cache-control: [14:46:31] I just renamed it. [14:46:37] Fair enough. [14:47:43] But yeah, squid. And you should totally minify your static JS, and use Extension:Minify for the site-modifiable JS. [14:47:57] You have a lot of the latter so the extension should atually do something. [14:49:41] Hm. [14:49:42] Good idea. [14:49:43] I would also suggest disallowing /index.php in your robots.txt. That way they can still see regular pages but they don't go to history pages, edit pages and special pages. [14:50:08] O_O Also good idea. [14:50:13] <^demon> hey all. [14:50:16] Which are hugely expensive. [14:50:17] Hey hey. [14:50:35] Yo, ^demon [14:50:42] Your nick is difficult to tab complete. [14:50:46] Stupid circumflex. [14:50:51] <^demon> Hehe :) [14:51:17] [Shift + 6] [Space] and I have a ^. [14:51:40] is the skin that is in the beta in the english wiki the default in the current level (1.15.1)? [14:56:36] Lycurgus: No. [14:56:42] Not even in 1.16alpha+ [14:56:58] Just, FYI, it is called Vector. [14:59:10] 03(mod) Provide default time zone selection in installer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19991 (10mickewiki) [15:00:09] GreenAway: Is that all I have to configure in Squid? [15:00:12] Two lines? [15:00:20] <^demon> brion: mornin' [15:00:24] what up kids [15:00:31] brion-breakfast: We are not eating breakfast. [15:00:32] 03(mod) Provide default time zone selection in installer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19991 (10mickewiki) [15:00:44] too bad for you [15:00:49] Blah, I don't want more selctions in installer! [15:00:50] <^demon> brion-breakfast: Payday Friday \o/ [15:01:09] At least make like a "fluff" installation that is hidden by JavaScript by default. [15:01:12] Anyone know of a way to integrate sIFR into Mediawiki? [15:01:31] You know, like lots of default settings, that you *might* want to change, but generally do not need to. [15:02:07] svip, ah, thx, I'll prolly stick with my monobook clone then. [15:02:15] <^demon> kevindanko: I don't think anyone's done it yet, but it would be pretty easy to add a tag extension. check out the flash ones for ideas. [15:02:24] I supplied a patch for https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19991 does it look ok? [15:02:34] svip: It may be. I think they made it a lot simpler. [15:02:43] Try it and see what breaks? [15:02:51] :S [15:02:59] Perhaps there is a different port you can use for testing. [15:03:01] 03(mod) Provide default time zone selection in installer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19991 (10brion) [15:03:17] i don't get paid today ^demon :( [15:03:21] we get paid twice a month :) [15:03:26] <^demon> :( [15:03:31] <^demon> biweekly ftw. [15:03:56] *GreenReaper gets paid by the edit. [15:04:07] <^demon> zomg paid editors! [15:04:10] *^demon bans [15:04:19] paid by the edit? that would be a reason to never preview :-P [15:04:26] hehehe [15:04:33] Micke: commented on the bug :) [15:06:32] The way we do images now kinda sucks for caching. You can't safely set images or thumbnails to cache because they might change without the filename changing. Is there any way we can improve that? Maybe put every file in archives to start with? [15:06:32] brion-breakast → I'll look into "the DateTime class and friends" then :) [15:07:15] <^demon> GreenReaper: Come again? [15:07:53] ^demon: Imagine I have this file, http://pool.wikifur.com/w/images/9/94/Publication_in_Russian_media04-06-2009.png [15:08:02] <^demon> ok. [15:08:11] Imagine I tell the browser to cache that file. [15:08:15] Then I upload a new version. [15:08:27] The page will be incorrect because it will show the cached version. [15:09:13] <^demon> Don't we purge image caches on reupload? [15:09:13] If each uploaded instance of an image had a different name (and a different thumbnail name), it would become possible to cache those images and their thumbnails. [15:09:25] On the server side, sure, but I'm talking about reducing client requests. [15:09:27] Micke: whee :D [15:09:32] You still have to serve the image. [15:09:35] may be php 5.2 and later, note [15:09:38] The idea is not to have to do that. [15:09:38] <^demon> mehhhhhh [15:10:13] GreenReaper: yeah we've talked about such now and again [15:10:17] aint quite got round to it :( [15:10:34] poke around on mediawiki.org and see my 2006 proposal, which might have been too radical ;) [15:11:15] I just get the feeling from what I've read that image serving is one of the bottlenecks [15:11:30] and I *know* it takes up a lot of bandwidth. [15:11:32] *GreenReaper pokes. [15:11:54] serving isn't so bad, but scaling eats a chunk of resources [15:12:14] and even that would be ok without certain space issues on certain filesystems [15:12:17] scaling we can isolate at least :) so when it breaks it doesnt break everything else [15:12:18] usually [15:12:27] yuo [15:12:31] *yup [15:12:33] :) [15:12:41] which reminds me, time to remove a bunch of data :-) [15:12:41] apergos: you're scheduled to work from home today right? [15:12:46] yes, I am. [15:12:47] yay :D [15:12:49] spiffy [15:13:03] I need to get out my work laptop so I can work from my "work" alias [15:13:11] <^demon> I want to make the scaler thing more pluggable, rather than hard-coding all the crap in Bitmap. [15:13:12] hehe [15:13:24] ^demon: i love you [15:13:33] <^demon> I know :p [15:13:38] haha [15:13:50] *apergos won't believe it til the pics are on flickr :-P [15:14:03] zomg [15:14:25] <^demon> brion-breakfast: btw....thoughts on FlaggedRevs for mw.org? [15:15:12] we could try it out [15:15:31] <^demon> trying to get some kind of quality control on the Help and Manual namespaces. [15:15:53] right [15:15:56] should be feasible :) [15:16:00] lets poke at that later today [15:16:04] gotta run off to teh office nows [15:16:07] <^demon> alrighty. [15:17:51] 03(NEW) Integrate sIFR into Mediawiki (Scalable Inman Flash Replacement) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20109 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: [other]; (kevindank) [15:19:32] hellou [15:20:09] *^demon waves [15:21:07] svip: use irssi :o [15:21:41] Nikerabbit: I do. [15:29:53] 03(NEW) Beta Layout update changed group permissions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20110 major; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (aaron.adrignola) [15:33:59] <^demon> I don't think you can blame that on the beta... [15:36:08] 03(mod) jQuery is breaking mwsuggest preventing users of Opera 8 to log into en.wp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19586 (10hartman) [15:38:53] 03(mod) Provide default time zone selection in installer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19991 +comment (10mickewiki) [15:40:49] 03(mod) Beta Layout update changed group permissions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20110 +comment (10hartman) [15:41:07] ^demon: probably a shell issue [15:41:32] 03(mod) suppressredirect right gone missing on en.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20110 +shell; summary; +comment (10agarrett) [15:42:40] 03(mod) Provide default time zone selection in installer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19991 +comment (10svippy) [15:44:11] 03(mod) non-corrected accesskey tooltips. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19506 (10hartman) [15:44:57] 03(mod) Move .plainlinks declaration to common stylesheets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18708 (10hartman) [15:50:11] hi [15:50:32] is the line for forcing the table of contents _FORCE_TOC_?, i can't seem to remember, it's been some time since i've used it [15:53:21] 14(WFM) Abuse Filter reports empty "old_wikitext" in namespace==6 (images), while in fact there is old wikitext - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18955 +comment (10agarrett) [15:55:36] __forcetoc [15:55:38] __ [15:57:07] gtg see ya! [16:02:17] thanks werdna [16:06:20] 03werdna * r54585 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Preferences.php: Fix bug 19261 by saving the username as the signature if it is submitted empty [16:07:01] 03(FIXED) Do not strip off addition in parenthesis in signature - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19261 +comment (10agarrett) [16:07:35] 03(mod) filter rule seem to have maximum length - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19606 (10agarrett) [16:13:20] 03werdna * r54586 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/Views/AbuseFilterViewEdit.php: Fix bug 19799, hide public versions of private filters. [16:13:36] 03(FIXED) Hiding an abuse filter should hide all previous revisions of that filter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19799 +comment (10agarrett) [16:16:47] Hi all- noob here! Having trouble importing XML exports (via Special:Export) from wikipedia- the < and > etc keep getting removed on import (with Special:Import). Think I've got tidy installed and set up, plus ParserFunctions extensions, but still no go. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? [16:18:53] 03tparscal * r54587 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/OptIn/SpecialOptIn.php: Switched from matching edit token manually to using matchEditToken. [16:19:07] 03werdna * r54588 10/branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/HoneypotIntegration/HoneypotIntegration/: Updating HoneypotIntegration extension to trunk (@r54586) in prep for deployment on WMF [16:20:03] 03werdna * r54589 10/branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/HoneypotIntegration/HoneypotIntegration/: Revert r54588, made a mistake [16:20:15] troubleshooting template transclusion in a copy of fi.wikipedia.org [16:20:39] Any ideas why some templates expand funny compared to original, as example $wgLanguageCode value affects some expansions? [16:22:02] I've installed all extensions affecting Parser Hooks, with same svn rev. 54192 [16:23:18] Grego: maybe you don't have tidy installed [16:24:44] morning brion [16:25:05] Hmm, is tidy picked up automatically if it is installed? I search through the docs but not clear yet.. [16:25:20] Grego: you need to explicitly enable it, I think [16:25:24] !wg UseTidy | Grego [16:25:24] --mwbot-- Grego: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgUseTidy [16:25:33] morrrrrnin [16:26:01] brion: I'm planning on spending 32,000 elections related spam emails to eligible voters from Zwinger in the next few hours, is that cool? [16:26:34] goodness [16:26:48] that cool w/ the election committee or whatever? :) [16:27:06] I'm on the election committee, they've been hounding me to get on with it for ages ;) [16:27:14] \o/ [16:27:19] let's do this thang [16:27:28] got a sensible return address and all that? [16:27:34] >_< Why is setting up a subversion server so damn difficult. [16:27:56] Haven't done that yet, I've just pulled all the requisite info from teh DB. [16:28:04] bah... google gears updated for firefox 3.5 two weeks ago and i didn't notice [16:28:11] Yeah :P [16:28:15] *brion sets up offline gmail again [16:28:27] Any thoughts on the appropriate return address? [16:28:41] well do you want something that they can reply to? [16:28:44] or something not? :) [16:28:45] someone help me? I want to copy the wiki from my host for my pc [16:28:57] I'm thinking board-elections@lists.wikimedia.org as the From, but it might be nice to have a sane reply-to [16:29:02] tsk tsk gears-osx-opt.xpi isn't loaded over https [16:29:07] !move | sup1 [16:29:07] --mwbot-- sup1: For help about moving pages, see . For help about moving wikis, see . [16:30:08] brion: also, how do I merge my trunk changes to HoneypotIntegration into wmf-deployment? [16:30:40] mwbot: tks... I will see [16:30:45] werdna / brion: no-reply@wikimedia.org? :) [16:31:03] werdna: cd wmf-deployment/extensions/HoneypotIntegration; svn merge svn+ssh://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/HoneypotIntegration; svn commit [16:31:13] assuming svn 1.5 or later client :) [16:31:16] brion: ah, I have to check out wmf-deployment :) [16:31:52] yops [16:32:17] Where could I look at a sample LocalSetting.php from a wikipedia site? [16:33:41] Grego: what exactly are you after? Wikipedia's config files are not going to be typical of mediawiki installations :) [16:33:50] but you can see a bunch of our stuff at http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/ [16:34:09] He's having some trouble with rendering inconsistencies [16:34:20] we should do a checklist for having your wiki render Wikipedia content [16:34:49] yep, I'm trying to do a full local copy of fi.wikipedia.org [16:35:38] I've got most of it working, math many/most? templates, but still glitches. Now setting up tidy [16:35:51] ah, wacky fun :) [16:36:04] yeah i think some template/table stuff is still kinda cranky w/o tidy :( [16:37:28] __force_toc isn't working from the preview [16:37:29] :/ [16:38:02] i mean, __forcetoc [16:38:06] __forcetoc__ [16:38:25] *werdna is now blasting the servers with queries on election data again [16:38:36] oh, ok [16:39:48] 03jan * r54590 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SkinTemplate.php: Add after the link for "My Talk" "" if there are some [16:40:38] *werdna still waiting for the wmf-deployment checkout [16:42:33] 03(mod) suppressredirect right gone missing on en.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20110 +comment (10brion) [16:43:04] i should probably trim out the extensions we don't use ;) [16:44:22] brion: it frightens me that we put unvetted extensions web-accessible in that directory [16:44:32] mwahahahaha [16:44:42]