[00:03:22] 03siebrand * r54617 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/tag/RenderJob.php: Use content language for job edit summary [00:14:14] 03(mod) PHPunit tests in .../phase3/tests/ directory no longer work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20077 (10dnessett) [00:19:27] 03siebrand * r54618 10/trunk/phase3/ (27 files in 3 dirs): Localisation updates for core messages from translatewiki.net (2009-08-08 00:08 UTC) [00:26:58] 03siebrand * r54619 10/trunk/extensions/ (66 files in 61 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-08-08 00:08 UTC) [00:39:39] is it not possible to override the title (mouseover) of a link? [00:41:03] AaronSchulz: ping [00:41:43] pong [00:41:54] oh, never mind [00:42:01] [1:23] [00:42:34] question regarding a very old revision 25444 (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/25444) why are the periods in the mapped addresses replaced with colons? [00:43:04] OverlordQ: because it was written by a very silly person [00:43:11] who thinks standards are for wimps! [00:47:50] 03(mod) PHPunit tests in .../phase3/tests/ directory no longer work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20077 +comment (10dnessett) [00:51:07] OverlordQ: I can't remember...looks like some quick hack to let those IPs use the site. It looks wrong since that would always leave an extra two colons though... [00:51:29] hmm, sounds like a nice TODO list item [00:51:42] AaronSchulz: not to mention the completely incorrect IP address [00:52:03] that's what I meant by "quick hack" [00:52:07] some conversion is needed [00:52:26] it should just be converted to a normal v4 ip [00:53:07] 03shinjiman * r54620 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/OptIn/OptIn.i18n.php: Fix up typo and outdated messages for Chinese language [00:53:09] or the IPv6, where those last 32 bits are the same binary, but the correct hex [00:53:21] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6#IPv4_mapped_addresses [00:53:28] i know what a mapped address is [00:56:25] IP::IPv4toIPv6 is in a similar state: echo IP::IPv4toIPv6('192.0.2.128'); => 0:0:0:0:0:0:C000:280 [00:56:56] MW should never produce mapped addresses.. if the web server sees one, it should be converted to plain v4 [00:57:11] mapped addresses were a flawed idea that solved nothing and produced all kinds of problem (like this) [01:00:58] Dont think that function is actually used anywhere in core though [01:01:45] meh, just using the IPv4 bit sounds ok enough (and easy to do) [01:01:52] yea [01:02:12] the code also violated the function's comment description [01:02:49] OverlordQ: heh, that was like the first project I worked on...lots of crack [01:04:08] 03siebrand * r54621 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/FreeCol/FreeCol.php: Remove obsolete file (was replaced by FreeCol.yml) [01:04:19] OverlordQ: they must be useful for *something* [01:04:27] the mapped addresses [01:09:24] not a clue :) flyingparchment seems to know more about it then me :) [01:09:50] they aren't useful. the idea was that a program could support ipv6 only, and then it would get v4 support using mapped addresses. [01:09:59] it turns out that was a stupid idea, and nowadays everyone uses getaddrinfo instead [01:10:58] (except not everyone does, so you still see the mapped addresses now and then) [01:13:49] How is the image directory structure set up on Mediawiki? I thought it was a MD5 hash of the file's name, but now I'm not sure [01:13:57] well, further down in canononicalize it does check if it's a mapped address and returns just the IPv4 part [01:17:05] <^demon> ScarredSun: Images are put in subdirectories based on part of a hash of the filename. [01:17:26] <^demon> /images/a/ab/Somefile.jpg - for example [01:17:52] <^demon> Where a and ab are part (I can't remember what part) of the hash of the filename. [01:18:10] first two characters iirc [01:18:31] <^demon> Probably right :) [01:20:10] Your client still tab-completes if the person left? [01:20:24] he probably pressed tab before they lat [01:21:40] although for some reason I can't seem to reproduce sums :-/ [01:22:18] 03siebrand * r54622 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/MantisBT/ (5 files): [01:22:18] MantisBT yml work in progress. Replaces ../Mantis.php and local configuration for three plugins. [01:22:18] Needs to be reviewed by Nikerabbit. Header support is missing, and class PhpVariablesFFS does not yet exist. [01:22:18] * Don't like the duplication of the code maps and checkers. [01:22:18] * Is "display: out/mantis/mantisgraph" allowed? [01:22:28] 03aaron * r54623 10/trunk/phase3/includes/IP.php: Take the IPv4 part of mapped addresses rather than broken '.'->':' replace [01:23:55] <^demon> Annemarie: I don't tab-complete...I just wasn't paying attention :p [01:25:40] OverlordQ: You're using SHA1, right? [01:29:18] 03(FIXED) PDF link missing from the toolbox of Vector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20067 +comment (10nkomura) [01:30:57] Annemarie: tried md5 and sha1 [01:31:24] Which file? [01:31:39] ./f/f5/Beans.jpg [01:36:11] oh wait, I [01:36:17] *I'm an idiot, forgot to specify -n to echo [01:47:05] 14(INVALID) EO | Revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15972 +comment (10mike.lifeguard) [02:13:20] 03(mod) Hiding a global account via CentralAuth should trigger local blocks using wpHideName - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14476 (10mike.lifeguard) [02:38:52] 03(NEW) "Try Beta" is ambiguous - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20123 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (mike.lifeguard) [03:10:36] 03(NEW) CategoryOnUpload appends [[Category:]] in the summary if none is provided - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20124 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: [other]; (charitwo) [03:11:55] 03(ASSIGNED) CategoryOnUpload appends [[Category:]] in the summary if none is provided - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20124 (10charitwo) [03:13:22] 03(mod) CategoryOnUpload appends [[Category:]] in the summary if none is provided - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20124 (10charitwo) [03:25:39] argh [03:26:35] I recently updated my Wiki... it was extremely old, this is the first time I've probably updated it in 6 months... with svn up and php ../update.php , the usual. However, I get the following error when I run the update.php script: [03:26:42] Fatal error: Declaration of DatabaseSimpleSecurity::fetchObject() must be compatible with that of DatabaseBase::fetchObject() in /var/www/w/extensions/SimpleSecurity/SimpleSecurity.php(434) : eval()'d code on line 15 [03:27:18] Oh, never mind. I see the extension is the problem. I'll just comment it out in LocalSettings.php [03:27:19] did you also update the SimpleSecurity extention? [03:27:43] Lol, apparently not. [03:27:50] trying to understand what this person meant when writing a patch: @@ -17,7 +17,8 [03:27:58] does anyone know what these numbers are about? [03:28:28] it's coming from this Talk page: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:Back-and-Forth [03:28:37] UGH... MediaWiki is randomly really slow to load, and when I tack ?prof=true to the end of the URL and reload, it magically reloads quickly [03:29:05] chuck: magic is beautiful [03:29:27] but it's so annoying! lol [03:30:04] chuck: reminds me my gf [03:30:26] how so [03:30:27] hello, how do i debug an error like this, "" Exception caught inside exception handler"" [03:30:47] chuck: magic = beautiful = annoying [03:30:58] chuck: sometimes [03:32:38] anyway... there's this silly patch that I can't figure out where to add in the page... anyone can give a hand with those numbers please? See --> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:Back-and-Forth [03:33:22] Spedia: those are line numbers; you probably shouldn't be worrying about them [03:34:05] Emufarmers: Thanks! i should just dump the whole patch in the page then? [03:34:15] What? [03:35:27] Emufarmers: Should I simply copy the patch and paste it into the corresponding file? [03:37:03] No [03:37:17] You'd uprobably want something like [03:37:21] patch -p0 < file.patch [03:37:24] brb [03:37:50] Emufarmers: thanks [03:45:31] hello, how do i debug an error like this, "" Exception caught inside exception handler"" [03:45:38] or get any more information than that [03:45:47] is there a way to enable detailed debug reports? [03:46:07] Well, do you have all the standard debug options on? [03:46:31] i dont know? [03:46:33] where do i set them [03:46:44] In your LocalSettings.php file. [03:46:58] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Debug_variables [03:47:07] You probably want stuff like $wgShowExceptionDetails [03:47:09] <^demon> Evening folks. [03:47:21] night all [03:47:25] and maybe $wgShowDebug [03:47:31] Oh, and $wgDebugComments [03:49:22] oooo ok [03:49:27] Error: 1033 Incorrect information in file: './linfo_wiki/objectcache.frm' (localhost) [03:49:31] what could be the cause of that? [03:52:41] <^demon> That's a database problem. Might try reparing the table. [04:00:57] This is probably a dumb question [04:01:14] But I've installed mediawiki onto my computer...how do I access it from the internet >_> [04:03:16] Do you have a webserver running? [04:03:45] On my computer, i have apache and mysql running [04:03:54] I'm using xampp [04:04:00] (Thats a yes?) [04:04:37] Configure Apache as necessary, then (you also might need to do port forwarding if you have a router) [04:04:48] I have a routher [04:04:51] router [04:05:12] *Steve-Crossin_ facepalms [04:05:55] *Steve-Crossin_ doesnt know how to configure apache >_> [04:06:13] There are plenty of guides available [04:06:36] there's even an IRC channel on this network, though if you just go in and say "how do I configure apache" you probably won't get much help :) [04:06:48] ah thanks fixed it [04:07:03] i changed the innodb log file size...should have removed old logs [04:07:08] Lol [04:07:10] what channel [04:11:07] /msg alis list *apache* [04:14:34] Is there a guide to building a good OOP extension using a model for data rather than random queries? Kind of like how the Article and User classes work as an example [04:15:05] Guy...dee? [04:16:03] <^demon> We have docs? [04:17:31] well do you guys have any major tips on doing so if there is no guide? [04:19:21] <^demon> chuck: CodeReview's got a pretty clear UI/data separation. [04:19:48] yeah, i've noticed that, i think i'll take another peek at that extension [04:20:08] *chuck is diving in and creating a much needed extension for our wiki, and i'm really used to MVC [04:34:34] *Pinky Splarka [04:34:44] *charitwo Pinky [04:34:52] hi [04:35:20] *Splarka bites Pinky [04:35:41] don't bite the newcomers :-P ( is Pinky a newcomer though? ) [04:35:52] don't bite the oldcomers? [04:36:04] nah, the oldtimers can get bit all you want [04:36:05] heh [04:36:08] they'll bite back [04:36:15] *Pinky bites Splarka back [04:36:18] *atglenn bares teeth [04:36:28] atglenn: oldtimers don't have teeth [04:36:37] false teeth work just as well [04:37:23] ok, I really am going on that break I was going to take an hour ago... back later [04:37:32] <^demon> Have fun [04:44:23] ^demon: So is the format for naming database fields the first letter of every component of the table name and then the rest of the field? [04:44:28] *Emufarmers gnaws on Splarka's shoulder [04:44:34] like, code_tags would be ct_id, ct_name, w/e [04:45:33] emus can't gnaw [04:47:35] I used to think that, but then I learned the terrible truth: http://www.freewebs.com/aszsa2/emu.jpg [04:48:00] yeow! [04:48:04] <^demon> chuck: More or less yeah [04:48:08] (no, I ain't left yet, I keep trying) [04:48:09] Also, http://www.photoshoppix.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/10002/scary_emu.jpg heh [04:48:23] the cake is a lie [04:48:38] it may be a lie [04:48:43] but it still tastes damn good [04:48:48] that first one convinced me, that's for sure [04:57:49] [17:09:40] $wgLanguageCode = "en" with $wgUseTidy = true seems to give good enought results for me for now. Still would be nice to know why $wgLanguageCode can break templates... [04:58:00] see, this is why it is silly to localize magic words, parser functions, and variasbles [04:58:09] variables* [04:58:17] *Emufarmers beats Splarka with a flyingparchment [04:59:02] *Splarka pretends not to enjoy it [05:00:39] Splarka: I saw A Comedy of Errors on the Boston Common this evening [05:00:42] Witty comment: go [05:02:15] who/what? [05:02:31] :\ [05:02:40] What do I pay you for? :( [05:25:22] does the personal tools portlet get cached? [05:30:26] would this be a bug, or accepted 'weird' behavior for anonymous users. Switching between IPv4 and IPv6 changes my IP address, but browser sends a If-Modified-Since header, page isn't modified so returns a 304 header which makes browser displayed the cached page with the wrong displayed IP. Weird edge case? [05:31:40] Sounds like a browser bug to me. ;-) [05:33:35] go optimize something :P [05:33:56] 03shinjiman * r54624 10/trunk/extensions/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Localisation updates Cantonese and Chinese for extension messages [05:34:00] I just saved 12 bytes on MediaWiki Google Analytics calls. ;-p [05:37:38] GreenReaper: you should get Google to use a shorter domain for Analytics to save space [05:37:57] Maybe we could redirect requests through bit.ly . . . [05:38:29] That was my first thought, but redirects would take longer [05:39:57] To be honest at that point you're not really saving the user any time to see the content, since it's at the end anyway. [05:42:47] Oh, right, scripts at the end [05:48:27] But hey, better than 0 bytes! You might save a bit of cache for something else. [06:22:47] 03shinjiman * r54625 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/OptIn/ (OptIn.i18n.php OptIn.js OptIn.php): added Windows Mobile and iPhone OS detection, bump $wgOptInStyleVersion. [06:39:45] 03(mod) Favicon for Meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15529 (10shinjiman) [06:40:09] 04(REOPENED) Favicon for Meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15529 (10shinjiman) [06:45:03] Hallo. Where can I see the parserfunctions syntax in Hebrew? (for example, ifexpr, ifeq, etc.) [06:46:22] peleg: you mean instructions written in Hebrew for how to use them, or the functions actually in the Hebrew alphabet? [06:46:48] Emufarmers, the functions actually in the Hebrew א-ב... [06:47:03] I know that "if" is "תנאי", for example [06:47:07] *domas cries [06:47:13] Aha, Splarka! Looks like the score is 1-1 now! [06:47:24] they currently aren't tranlated into hebrew it appears (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions theres a box at the bottom that shows the available languages) [06:47:27] peleg: they're only available in English, sorry [06:47:42] although the hebrew wikipedia may have a translated copu [06:47:44] *copy [06:47:45] Emufarmers, well, I *know* that at least some of them *are* translated [06:48:05] Emufarmers: s/english/ENglish, Spanish and French/ [06:48:09] "#תנאי" works in any mediawiki [06:48:10] Emufarmers? wat? [06:48:55] Splarka: a few minutes ago you complained about 1i8n of parser functions [06:49:02] Maybe it reads from the mediawiki namespace? [06:49:20] well, yah, beceause of poor grego [06:49:35] parser function localisations aren't possible per-wiki or on-wiki yet [06:49:38] Yes, and I'm saying peleg evens the score :p [06:49:43] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/ParserFunctions/ParserFunctions.i18n.magic.php?view=co&content-type=text%2Fplain [06:49:48] damn you [06:49:51] was just about to paste that [06:49:56] * Hebrew [06:49:57] */ [06:49:57] $words['he'] = array( [06:49:57] 'expr' => array( 0, 'חשב', 'expr' ), [06:49:59] etc [06:50:20] Ooh, is that new? [06:50:22] nice; though I need to fix the encoding there [06:50:22] so they're kinda hard-coded [06:50:32] Must be, if one of the 5 languages is Yiddish [06:50:46] no, not new [06:50:48] that's so silly [06:51:06] 20 months, 4 weeks ago [06:51:17] :\ [06:51:38] mediawiki keeps trying making things more difficult for itself in the future [06:52:00] eh? [06:52:16] Emufarmers: 2-0 [06:52:25] >_> [06:53:54] wow, trying to write a Hebrew programming language is just an awful attempt. I am not sure if it's funnier or clumsier [06:54:40] I think PHP is about as close to a Hebrew programming language as we're going to get [06:54:42] peleg: the english aliases should always work as well [06:55:03] [06:55:19] 03(NEW) Default access keys for cusom namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20126 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (lejonel) [06:55:23] that's the colon thing isn't it [06:55:26] Splarka, sure, but then you have huge problems with alignment. The text editors of the browsers don't handle well mixed alignments. [06:55:27] besides, PHP delenda est [06:55:28] Yes [06:56:10] Emufarmers, yup. PHP was rewritten in Israel, so that is a funny leftover. [06:56:15] Splarka: why do you hate Israel? :( [06:56:36] (joking) [06:57:00] because I am a Whitespace supremacist! [06:57:03] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_(programming_language) [06:58:45] blame the Zend engine not php :P [06:58:53] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_%28programming_language%29 [06:59:13] *charitwo stabs Annemarie [06:59:25] Where? [06:59:42] in the eye [06:59:48] ;-) [06:59:55] More like x-) [07:00:07] Annemarie is a cyclops? [07:00:37] Splarka's link WFM btw [07:00:46] didn't need no steenkin encoding [07:00:58] Don't forget the post-Odysseus cyclops: -) [07:01:02] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%57%68%69%74%65%73%70%61%63%65%5F%28%70%72%6F%67%72%61%6D%6D%69%6E%67%5F%6C%61%6E%67%75%61%67%65%29 [07:01:40] Splarka is a pun machine. [07:01:43] You just feed him material and he spits out puns. [07:01:51] He's like one of those Play-Doh machines that squeezes the dough into spaghetti. [07:03:14] 03raymond * r54626 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: Follow-up r54625: Make new messages optional for translatewiki [07:05:20] Splarka is like some witch doctor for anything thats not PHP [07:06:11] http://en.wikipedia.org/?curid=205017 [07:10:35] 04(REOPENED) Set favicon for Wikimedia Incubator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6921 +comment (10shinjiman) [07:11:41] 03(mod) Set favicon for Wikimedia Incubator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6921 (10shinjiman) [07:12:05] Is there a version of mwdumper, which can import logs? [07:13:10] MWDumper can import logs, can't it? [07:14:01] Emufarmers: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Unexpected outside a , , or [07:16:13] Hmm, if it couldn't, I would expect the logs to be available in SQL format instead of XML... [07:17:28] Dunno, then; you could try importDump.php instead [07:17:43] (or wait until more competent people wake up) [07:18:28] hmm prettu sure there was something about this in the mailing lists..... something to do witht he db schema updates iirc [07:18:36] I will just patch mwdumper so it can... [07:19:07] http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh292/cyber_slacker/World.jpg [07:19:49] Kangaroos! [07:24:58] 03(mod) Set favicon for Wikimedia Incubator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6921 +comment (10shinjiman) [07:29:18] Do you find something wrong in that expression: {{#expr: ({{{1}}} -- ({{{1}}} mod 2) -- 10) div 2}} ? It produces an error. If I put a number instead of the {{{1}}} everything is ok; but when I call that template from outside with a number, it just gives me back my input [07:29:35] -- ? [07:29:48] Why two? [07:30:14] two what? [07:30:23] Two hyphens. [07:30:40] ah, sorry. It is one "-" every time. [07:31:07] {{#expr: ({{{1}}} -- ({{{1}}} mod 2) -- 10) div 2}} [07:31:10] darn [07:31:15] try {{{1|0}}} to suppress errors [07:31:21] it's irssi messing with my things. [07:31:25] Splarka, good idea. [07:33:34] oh, now it is just great. Thanks! :) [08:14:52] hey, is there a (default) var/command/template to add the users own accountname to a wiki page? [08:15:42] {{subst:REVISIONUSER}} [08:16:39] hm, doesn't work on that installation it seems... thx anyway [08:18:19] ~~~ [08:22:53] upgrade [08:30:50] AllPages should italicize redirects by default. [08:34:04] userContent.css [08:35:56] You mean Bugzilla? [08:36:27] I mean userContent.css [08:36:43] body.mediawiki .allpagesredirect {font-style:italic;} [08:36:48] I have that in mine, for example [08:37:24] 03(mod) � action=render � does not preserve the directionality of pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12242 +comment (10bugzilla.wikimedia) [08:39:39] Bleh. [08:39:49] Apparently non-English languages don't like italics. [08:39:57] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2318 [08:41:59] no, they don't, same with bold [08:42:38] There's an old bug about adding a redirect selector. [08:42:45] Kinda surprised it hasn't been implemented still. [08:43:42] from a reader's point of view the redirect-ness of a link is irrelevant, and from an editor's point of view it's not that useful [08:44:55] It's relevant if you only want to open each page once. [08:45:16] Rather than ending up with six tabs of the same page. [08:45:46] hm, suppose so [08:45:48] And it's relevant if you're trying to find non-redirects that use non-standard capitalization that need to be fixed (versus ones that have already been fixed). [08:45:54] That's where I just ran into it. :P [08:46:09] ok :) [08:48:50] redirect selector in the article text? [08:49:51] userContent.css! [08:50:17] *Splarka probably triggered that bot lurking in here as a possible spammer [08:50:47] I mean Annemarie had mentioned "old bug about adding a redirect selector." [08:51:11] No, I meant a redirect selector for Special:AllPages. Sorry. [08:51:19] The bot is kinda retarded; it usually reports like ten minutes later. [08:51:57] http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Strategy_wiki Bizarre... [08:52:10] http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2009/08/try-out-wikipedias-new-look-in-beta/ [08:52:11] \o/ [08:52:34] It keeps listing http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Planning:Users [08:52:38] But that page clearly doesn't exist. It can't be categorized... [08:56:29] 03(mod) Default access keys for custom namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20126 summary (10shinjiman) [09:09:25] 03(NEW) Change of way to initialize editToolbarConfiguration structure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20125 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (liangent) [09:33:04] 03(NEW) Undefined variable in Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20127 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (maxsem.wiki) [10:00:32] 03(mod) text of revisions in the archive table that were deleted before Wikipedia started using MediaWiki 1.5 is corrupt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19990 (10grahamwp) [10:16:42] 03(mod) Undefined variable in Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20127 15enhancement->normal (10maxsem.wiki) [10:32:51] 03shinjiman * r54627 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialVersion.php: * (bug 20127) Fix regression when the executive does not found in the path specified while the SVG renderer is defined. Added detection by the $PATH variable. [10:33:52] 03(FIXED) Undefined variable in Special:Version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20127 +comment (10shinjiman) [10:37:48] 03jan * r54628 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (fixes for r54590 & bug 20103) Use now only one query and add number to messages "youhavenewmessages" and "mytalk" [10:39:51] 03(FIXED) Add revision count next to "my talk" for unread messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20103 +comment (10jan) [10:45:22] 03(NEW) looks cluttered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20128 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Vector Skin; (hartman) [10:45:51] Hm. [10:45:56] Who to vote for who to vote for? [10:46:01] Who promises me the most! [10:53:09] o_o So many candidates. [10:53:16] Meh, I am going to vote for that cool guy. [10:53:59] *cirwin isn't going to vote on principle - they are all spammers [10:54:01] :p [10:54:27] w00t [10:54:45] Why is the description of how to vote in British English when all the statments where in US English?! [10:54:48] Blah! [10:54:49] Silly people. [10:55:46] cirwin: If I was running, there would be cookies everywhere. [10:55:58] because silly WMF won't let us treat them as two differnent languages [10:56:02] I would promise the impossible! [10:56:20] [10:56:25] Splarka: You want a us-en.wikipedia.org and gb-en.wikipedia.org? [10:56:35] (the translation of that to gb) [10:56:38] Or en-gb whatever [10:56:54] Splarka: That sounds like Northern English. [10:58:01] svip: would you promise a live action Futurama? [10:58:18] Splarka: No, because that would utterly suck. [10:58:28] And Maurice LaMarche would not participate in it. [10:58:36] And would you *really* want that? [10:58:51] Splarka: Nah, if I was on the Board, I would make the move to include the Infosphere *in* WikiMedia. [10:58:52] yes, just to see how much it would suck [10:58:55] How about that? [10:59:06] did you see the live action Aqua Teen Hunger Force? [10:59:22] I did not. [10:59:53] Splarka: Did you see the pictures from yesterday's table reading for Futurama? [10:59:57] http://www.peelified.com/index.php?topic=17869.msg1055707#msg1055707 [11:02:19] heh, nerds [11:02:51] Splarka: You never responded to my platform as a candidate! [11:03:03] apathy [11:03:51] if elected I promise to make paper airplanes and throw them at Erik, the end [11:04:19] o_o [11:04:23] *svip votes for Splarka [11:04:31] If I was elected I promise to rename wiktionary to wikipedia and vice versa so we can steal all the traffic [11:04:54] If I was elected, I promise to rename all the projects into funny anagrams of themselves. [11:06:50] I aped kiwi, notary kiwi, woke I quit, ow us ickier, I bow kiosk [11:07:15] I quite like notary kiwi [11:07:29] that should have been at the top of the logo proposals page :D [11:07:38] :D [11:07:41] Wait. [11:07:50] Why doesn't Wikimedia sponsor an anagram wiki? [11:08:00] Dunno what's purpose should be other than being filled with anagrams. [11:08:03] beacuse you can auto-generate them much more easily than crowdsourcing [11:08:16] wiktionary has a few, but they are kind of frowned upon for being "too much like good fun" [11:08:21] start one, set up ads, get traffic, be rich [11:08:31] http://wordfun.ca [11:08:48] Splarka: I already have a wiki. [11:08:55] It's about that Futurama show we just talked about. [11:08:58] Also, it is awesome. [11:09:07] Wikimedia should officially support it. [11:09:23] but does it have anagrams? [11:09:46] Splarka: Hm. [11:10:06] According to Futurama Koyto is Tokyo's anagram lovers' town. [11:10:17] So I guess it does. [11:23:01] 03(FIXED) Maltese Wikipedia and Wiktionary namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19968 +comment (10siebrand) [12:12:11] <[KoT]Player140> hi [12:12:49] <[KoT]Player140> most of my DB tables have the collation "latin1_swedish_ci" but some are "utf8_general_ci". Could that be a problem? [12:12:53] 03(NEW) enable flagged revisions on Portal namespace of en.wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20129 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (brian.mcneil) [12:13:39] <[KoT]Player140> sometimes I get a error like: ?1267: Illegal mix of collations (latin1_bin,IMPLICIT) and (utf8_general_ci,COERCIBLE) for operation '=' (localhost)?. [12:14:17] it is better if all tables are of same collation, yes [12:15:42] what does coercible mean btw [12:15:42] <[KoT]Player140> Is it possible to change it now? And what would you recommend? utf8_general or latin1_swedish_ci or something else? [12:16:04] Nikerabbit: suceptible to influence or threads [12:16:07] threats [12:16:21] nikerabbit: there's awesome manual page on collation coercibility [12:16:26] <[KoT]Player140> if I understand this collation thing it doesn't matter what I choose, right? [12:16:35] huh [12:17:19] flyingparchment: Freudian slip @ threads/threats ? ;) [12:17:35] no? unless sewing is erotic to you [12:17:54] nikerabbit: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/charset-collate-tricky.html [12:18:09] flyingparchment: he calls his penis 'a thread' [12:18:15] !!! [12:18:15] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "!!". You might try: !!!! !?! [12:18:18] !!!! [12:18:18] --mwbot-- Please, stop shouting. Don't use caps lock and "!!!", we will understand you without them. [12:18:22] !!!!!!!!!! [12:18:22] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "!!!!!!!!!". [12:18:23] :D [12:18:24] lol [12:18:24] !?! [12:18:24] --mwbot-- !!! [12:18:41] How can you understand me if I don't write !!! [12:18:49] domas, capitals ;) [12:19:00] Right, so coercible people are people who are susceptible to penises? xD [12:19:20] <[KoT]Player140> so which collation would you recommend for a mult language wiki? [12:19:34] I need a special collation [12:19:37] <[KoT]Player140> its not so multi its only german and english [12:19:37] and devs don't agree [12:19:43] I started pinning customer cases to my request [12:19:54] [kot]player140: utf8_unicode_ci should work fine then!!! [12:21:59] <[KoT]Player140> ok thank you domas [12:22:27] there's also mediawiki setting [12:22:30] which makes better use of that shit [12:47:23] 03catrope * r54629 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Make RELEASE-NOTES entry from r54326 more concise [12:53:19] 03catrope * r54630 10/USERINFO/catrope: Update USERINFO [13:00:57] <[KoT]Player140> ok I just changed collations and the error message gone away :D [13:01:12] <[KoT]Player140> I also have no problems with the character everything seems to be as before [13:01:34] good for you [13:33:00] after upgrading from 1.13 to 1.15.1 i have a phantom page that I can't get out rid of: http://en.bahaitext.org/Category:Authors-B [13:33:03]