[00:01:58] 03tparscal * r54765 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/js/tests/wikiEditor.toolbar.js: Made the tests work in more browsers and not rely on the firebug console. [00:03:09] 03(mod) Tests in /phase3/t/inc no longer work. Fix provided. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20112 (10dnessett) [00:03:44] 03tparscal * r54766 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Updated combined files. [00:09:39] 03simetrical * r54767 10/trunk/phase3/ (11 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed) [00:09:39] For HTML 5, drop type="" attributes for CSS/JS [00:09:39] This time done in a nice, centralized fashion, reducing LOC for callers [00:09:39] even if HTML 5 is disabled. The implementation is a new Html class, [00:09:39] similar to Xml but intended to be HTML-specific from the beginning [00:09:42] instead of half-heartedly attempting to provide generic XML services but [00:09:44] actually with lots of HTML-specific stuff tacked on. [00:10:16] *brion huggles Simetrical [00:12:44] Oops, parser test failures. [00:14:04] What, I don't get an e-mail when I break parser tests? [00:14:56] *Simetrical hasn't bothered to set up a local CodeReview, so can't really make changes [00:15:47] 03simetrical * r54768 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/parserTests.txt: Fix parser test breakage from r54767 [00:15:58] heh [00:16:04] oooh we could rig that up actually [00:16:29] if your commit introduced new broken tests the wiki could send you a whinge email [00:16:39] It should also e-mail you if someone refers to your commit in a comment on another commit, and give backlinks like for mentions in commit messages. [00:16:48] What else did I want? [00:16:56] *Simetrical can't remember [00:17:55] 03(NEW) CodeReview should send a warning email to committers whose commits introduce test failures - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20168 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (brion) [00:23:08] <^demon> Hehe [[mw:Things n' Stuff]] [00:25:57] 03tparscal * r54769 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Added an RTL css rule for the wikiEditor UI. Tweaked the tests a bit more. [01:00:58] 03simetrical * r54770 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (Html.php specials/SpecialResetpass.php): [01:00:58] Add Html::input() convenience function [01:00:58] Currently only used in SpecialResetpass. Also added some whitespace to [01:00:58] the HTML output of SpecialResetpass, so that it's somewhat readable. [01:02:01] hey guys, i'm upgrading to a newer version of mediawiki (from v 1.13). I've been following the guide on the website but just wanted to check that i've covered the critical steps. I've backed up the mysql db, made a copy of the entire "mediawiki" directory, and attempting to do an xml dump using dumpBackup.php. Any other steps i've missed? [01:02:35] there's no point in backing up the data and also doing an xml dump [01:02:54] if someone can investigate this [01:02:55] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gerald_McLaughlin&useskin=standard&action=edit [01:02:59] it was more a safety measure [01:02:59] i need to sleep [01:03:09] "editing in classic skin is broken" [01:03:51] is there a way to get dumpBackup.php to output its log to a file instead of stdout? [01:04:13] <^demon> thedj: Whitepage? [01:04:51] RichardJ87, um, standard shell redirection? [01:05:05] true [01:05:23] <^demon> thedj: Wow that's ew. [01:05:28] ^demon: indeed. [01:05:33] but i need to sleep now. bye [01:05:48] Do you recommend upgrading to the latest 1.15.1 or are there some issues with that? [01:06:10] Blank page on editing in standard? [01:06:18] RichardJ87, it should be fine. [01:06:29] <^demon> Simetrical: Yeah. [01:06:38] Editing with standard on localhost works fine. [01:09:45] <^demon> Simetrical: So I assume it's something fixed in trunk, not yet sync'd to WMF, so not worth trying to track down. [01:10:14] Or some error that only ever occurred on WMF, maybe because of incomplete syncs of Vector-related changes. [01:10:15] ^demon: don't say that until you test with whatever rev WMF is using [01:10:18] Rather than full scaps. [01:10:28] seems more likely [01:10:35] <^demon> Most likely. [01:10:57] *^demon checks out wmf-deployment again [01:27:19] <^demon> I hate wikiheiro. [01:27:28] <^demon> wikihiero, rather. [01:28:13] is that the eypt graph symbol one? [01:28:20] *eygpt [01:28:20] <^demon> Yeah [01:28:33] <^demon> It takes forever to checkout. [01:34:48] i wonder if brion has choosen a job description from that mailing list post yet [01:52:52] <^demon|away> Simetrical: wmf-deployment doesn't have the issue. Seems specific to live WMF. [01:53:13] Seems like a PHP error. A shell needs to check error logs, I guess. [01:55:36] 03(NEW) Unable to edit in Standard skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20169 major; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (innocentkiller) [02:01:40] what error? [02:04:36] if i want an image to click to link to an external larger image, is it [[Image:internalname.jpg|link=http://example.external/bigpicture.jpg]] ? [02:37:24] 03(mod) Add option for editors in preferences to always show diff to latest flagged revision - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20058 (10JSchulz_4587) [03:10:02] 14(DUP) User rights log doesn't reflect removing of sysop rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12925 +comment (10innocentkiller) [03:10:05] 03(mod) farm / meta activities / logs should be duplicated at related wiki's - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4055 +comment (10innocentkiller) [03:14:08] couldn't we just mirage everything to the global users log? [03:14:15] *merge [03:14:22] *^demon|away shrugs [03:16:29] 14(WFM) thumbails with wrong permission - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6654 +comment (10innocentkiller) [05:09:00] 03(NEW) Page displays only "Override this function." - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20170 normal; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (cwillmor) [05:11:50] still? drat [05:11:55] time to run a query maybe [05:13:06] 03(mod) � action=render � does not preserve the directionality of pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12242 (10uahello) [05:15:34] apergos: dupe to 20081 and reopen? [05:15:42] nope, not yet [05:15:50] I want to check something before the link gets purged [05:18:17] dang, it might have already been [05:20:28] It was a JS problem at its core, right? [05:21:29] one of the apaches got left with a borked set of files [05:21:49] but I think the page already got purged so I can't see which one is doing it now [05:21:57] (if there is just one of them) [05:22:40] next time we get someone with an override function error I want to have them wait and I'll see if we can find it [05:34:50] Why not just bump all the version integers and resync the JS files for good measure? [05:39:00] Hi, can i let ONLY some users to see a page ? [05:43:59] !cms | D-Boy [05:43:59] --mwbot-- D-Boy: Wikis are designed for openness, to be readable and editable by all. If you want a forum, a blog, a web authoring toolkit or corporate content management system, perhaps don't use wiki software. There is a nice overview of free tools available at including the possibility to try each system. For ways to restrict access in MediaWiki, see !access. [05:47:06] 03(NEW) EditWarning gives a fatal error when used with the old skins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20171 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (tstarling) [05:47:30] Annemarie : wikis are just fine with what i do, however i like protect some pages because it contains Personal datas (viewable just by family people for example) so i wonder if there is someway to protect some pages to been viewed all visitors [05:48:06] D-Boy: MediaWiki, generally speaking, has two forms of content control [05:48:17] Either everything is available to everyone. [05:48:25] Or everything is available to people who are logged in. [05:49:36] 14(DUP) Unable to edit in Standard skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20169 +comment (10tstarling) [05:49:39] 03(mod) EditWarning gives a fatal error when used with the old skins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20171 +comment (10tstarling) [05:50:15] "EditWarning gives a fatal error when used with the old skins" - maybe someone installed EditError by mistake [05:50:50] Annemarie : i got the idea :) no extension adds what i'm searching for to the wiki ? [05:51:10] not securely [05:51:18] and many of them are broken in some form [05:51:39] @search read [05:51:39] --mwbot-- Results: [#mediawiki, ?>, analytics, cms, credit, gethelp, imagemagic, lazy, lockdown, memcached, phpshell, readonly, rtfm, secrets, session, subst, threads] [05:51:47] !lockdown | D-Boy [05:51:47] --mwbot-- D-Boy: Lockdown is an extension for preventing read or write access by namespace and limiting access to special pages. For more information, see < http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown >. For general information on preventing access to your wiki, see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access >. [05:51:48] !lockdown is probably what you want [05:51:55] yah that [05:52:12] ah cool thx i'll take a look on it ^^ [05:52:14] but it absolutely is not guaranteed to be secure, more of a "spoilers and internal icky you don't need to see" [06:02:20] 03tstarling * r54771 10/trunk/phase3/includes/SkinTemplate.php: (bug 20170) Make QuickTemplate::execute() abstract, instead of sending a dorky PHP 4-style error message to the user. [06:03:49] 03(mod) Page displays only "Override this function." - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20170 +comment (10tstarling) [06:05:42] I just upgraded to mediawiki 1.15.1 from 1.13 and i'm using the ldap authentication extension but am now getting the following error: Undefined index: wsDomain in LdapAuthentication.php. The result is that when clicking on my name (up the top right hand corner of the wiki) it throws an error instead of taking me to the preferences page. Any ideas? [06:06:11] did you upgrade the LDAP extension as well as mediawiki? [06:06:32] yeah, tried the latest stable version and beta version [06:06:37] both same result [06:07:59] Someone listed the issue here but there didn't seem to be a response - http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:LDAP_Authentication#Again_:_Undefined_index:_wsDomain_in_.2FLdapAuthentication.php [06:08:16] RichardJ87: you should talk to Ryan Lane. He's not here right now, though [06:08:33] oh ok, so he comes on often though? [06:09:46] Reasonably, I think; you could email him instead, if you want [06:13:33] It says on this page down the bottom that you can email him through the wiki but I can't see how - http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Ryan_lane [06:13:58] Are you logged in? [06:15:13] nah, ta [06:16:31] logged in, still can't see how to email him [06:16:47] It looks like he did respond, by the way; the other guy just didn't provide further info :) [06:16:57] You also need to have supplied an email address and confirmed it [06:18:12] 03(mod) Page displays only "Override this function." - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20170 (10cwillmor) [06:23:18] Splarka: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15296 [06:23:26] Any thoughts on re-opening that? [06:29:52] 03(mod) Enable RevisionDelete on WMF wikis for admins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18780 (10public) [06:31:14] *Reedy wonders if Annemarie ever sleeps [06:31:30] Occasionally. [06:33:32] After consuming a child. [06:33:34] *Splarka looks [06:33:59] I don't understand how http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?titles=foo|bar is an invalid URL. [06:34:13] its not in wmf land [06:34:19] and the fact it works, means its valid syntax [06:34:32] but i cant imagine many other places use it... [06:34:32] Roan says it's invalid. [06:34:42] He says I need to change | to %.. [06:34:42] Annemarie: the bug is invalid [06:34:52] as there is a valid workaround, same for [] [06:34:52] Well, it's certainly marked that way. [06:35:17] thehe didn't say the link was invalid, just the bug/featurerequest [06:35:18] A workaround, sure. But the URL should be valid anyway. [06:35:25] the/he [06:35:31] well, it isn't [06:35:35] not in a table ^_^ [06:35:43] Which I filed a bug about. [06:35:46] WFM [06:35:58] It works if you encode the pipes. [06:36:00] %5B%5D%7B%7D%3C%3E%27%27%27 [06:36:07] But you shouldn't have to. The link should be valid. [06:36:13] theres quite a few bugs in the open non assigned that could be marked as invalid/wontfix [06:36:30] /feck off cause your not replyin [06:36:37] Annemarie: I'd say ask tim [06:36:53] IIRC, the parser can't really simply be rearranged like that [06:36:57] Well, I already distracted him with server issues. [06:37:04] external links are done after template expansion and everything [06:37:18] Well. [06:37:22] {| [06:37:31] | http://foo?bar|baz [06:37:33] |} [06:37:44] That shouldn't be disrupting anything in table syntax to begin with. [06:37:50] It's not ||baz... [06:37:51] Emufarmers: I've confirmed the email address, once i'm on his user page how do I actually obtain his email address? [06:37:52] boo hoo, just fix it [06:38:09] Annemarie: like trailing close-parentheses ^_^ [06:38:10] RichardJ87, you cant [06:38:19] you use Special:EmailUser and email them via that [06:38:26] ah ok [06:38:27] ta [06:38:28] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical) [06:38:32] So tables can just take | and || [06:38:39] Not without a fight! [06:38:48] http://wiki.freeside.co.uk/wiki/Special:AllPages - Is there a way to not get that to add the start/end page, so when i change the ns it doesnt have that filter? [06:39:06] Use the API? [06:39:18] *Reedy slaps Annemarie [06:39:40] AllPages is goofy. [06:39:43] Reedy: It says there's no target "you have not specified a target page or user to perform this function on" how do I target? [06:40:03] RichardJ87, add /Username [06:40:18] That's also goofy behavior. [06:40:25] tis a bit weird [06:40:30] Why on earth would someone choose an error message over an input? [06:40:32] Grrrr. [06:40:38] Bugggg [06:40:50] For EmailUser? I think it's an ancient bug. [06:40:52] TimStarling: I'll give you a vegemite stroopwafel to say "possible" or "very very hard" or "learn php and submit a patch" to MZMcBride after a 10 second glance at: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15296 [06:40:53] Yeah, you should be able to say send email to user [06:41:13] Reedy: so "Special:EmailUser /Ryan lane" that doesn't work [06:41:25] where? [06:41:26] I hate MZMcBride. [06:41:26] (as you are the only one left who knows the parser) [06:41:31] Ryan Lane is Skizzerz. [06:41:47] kmccoy: Nobody cares. [06:41:54] Reedy: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13879 [06:42:00] Annemarie, sorry. :( [06:42:59] yeah not having any luck with that, might just have to add a question on the discussion page [06:43:32] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Skizzerz [06:43:45] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Skizzerz [06:44:04] *Annemarie links-battles Reedy. [06:44:19] *Reedy blocks Annemarie [06:44:26] Anyone know how to fix what i asked? :P [06:44:44] Well, better a block than a cockblock, I always say. [06:44:49] About AllPages? [06:44:53] /~ doop de-doop doop doop de doop... de dooo... ~/ [06:45:01] Yaaa [06:45:06] I was kidding about the API. AllPages is goofy as hell. [06:45:22] i'd use the api, but other users it wouldnt be the best for ;) [06:45:33] It wants to be an overview index and a specific index at the same time. It ends up being shit. [06:45:51] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AllPages doesnt show a start and end page.. [06:46:04] So unless its something modded, or an extension (i suspect not) there must be a way [06:46:15] Yes, you have to click the first link two or three times... [06:47:09] ... [06:47:17] Actually, you've confused me. [06:47:19] What's your issue? [06:47:39] http://wiki.freeside.co.uk/wiki/Special:AllPages [06:48:07] Look at the "Display pages starting at" text box [06:48:10] Annemarie: Are you sure ryan lane is skizzers, on the skizzerz user page it says Ryan Schmidt [06:48:14] lol hope I haven't emailed the wrong person [06:48:21] its automagically poplated on custom wiki [06:48:21] Oh dear. [06:48:23] its not on en.wp [06:48:30] Who is Ryan Lane then... [06:48:38] The name sounds familiar [06:49:07] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Ryan_lane ? [06:49:42] just look at the edit history on the extenstion page... [06:49:43] Reedy: Seems to be automatically populated, but not from the beginning. [06:49:55] yeah that's him [06:49:59] hmm [06:50:11] Its just annoying when you change ns, and title < starting with b [06:50:11] > laner Ryan Lane Ryan_Lane Maintainer of the LDAP Authentication plugin. [06:50:12] etc [06:50:17] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developers [06:50:32] Developers, developers, developers, developers. [06:51:23] Annemarie: "This user has chosen not to receive e-mail from other users." guess that answers my question [06:51:37] He has a talk page, though. [06:51:47] RichardJ87, does say on his user page he prefers not to do support via email [06:52:24] yeah he says that, but there's 50 billion points on his discussion page, I wonder if he'll even check new ones added [06:53:07] meh [07:01:29] Reedy: mehskies :) [07:08:22] 03raymond * r54772 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [07:08:22] Recommit r54081 after general revert r54735: The description message in $wgExtensionCredits can be an array with parameters now [07:08:22] This functionality is used by the 'Maps' and 'SemanticMaps' extensions [07:10:10] 03(FIXED) Page displays only "Override this function." - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20170 +comment (10tstarling) [07:47:50] 03(NEW) "Move this page" is linked to wrong URI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20172 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (mizusumashi) [07:49:41] 03(mod) "Move this page" is linked to wrong URI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20172 normal->high (10mizusumashi) [07:52:15] Anyone here? [07:53:13] I'm an administrator from svwiki and we'r having some problems with our templates, probably a bug in MW 1.16 [07:54:19] !ask | Sertion [07:54:19] --mwbot-- Sertion: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. See also: !gethelp [07:54:34] If a parameter is defined in the code {{template|parameter=|par2=value}} (Like 'parameter' is in this example), and dose not have a set value, it dose not go back to the deffault value set in the template code using {{{parameter|default}}} [07:54:39] Is this a known bug? [07:54:43] p858snake: :) [07:55:08] i don't know much about template, but how long has this been happening? [07:55:30] I think before the 1.16 update, but not 00% sure [07:56:02] It's extramly annoying and foces us to use extra code where it's not needed [07:56:10] (if the system worked that is) [07:56:57] {{foo|bar=}} -> "{{{bar|default}}}" is returning "" ? [07:57:00] Don't know if the other wikipedia versions suffer from this, but it needs to be fixed [07:57:13] Splarka: Yes [07:57:19] that's normal [07:57:34] Well, it needs to be fixed [07:57:34] because it is defined it doesn't use the fallback [07:58:04] why? it's been like that for a long time [07:58:42] {{#if:{{{bar|}}}|{{{bar}}}|default}} will check if undefined /or/ null [07:59:07] Splarka: We know [07:59:46] as I said: We are forced to use extra code [08:00:05] well, what version did you update from? [08:00:12] So, this is not something we can expect to be fixed? [08:00:27] it isn't broken [08:00:32] I do not do the updates, it's http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/ we are talking about [08:01:14] as well as the other wikipedia, wiktionary and wikisource sites [08:02:21] Splarka: The I request this as a new feature then [08:02:28] then I re...* [08:03:17] Hi all, could anyone help me to install mediawiki on ubuntu 9.04? [08:03:22] uh [08:03:29] http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Template&oldid=530965#Declaring_a_default_value same in 2007 [08:03:33] where is mdale? [08:03:36] I haven't seen him in days [08:03:56] Nikerabbit: wikt:weekend [08:04:37] start-{{{1|pqr}}}-end -> {{t| }} -> "start- -end". [08:04:49] Splarka: it's over already [08:04:50] Splarka: I can read you know [08:04:55] I view the page with short url, but no css and image [08:05:08] you guys forget [08:05:16] splarka is like the energizer bunny [08:05:18] superman: did you install it from ubuntu's repository? [08:05:33] Sertion: it would be a breaking change [08:05:48] Very breaking. [08:05:51] Splarka: Ok [08:05:57] charitwo: probably useless, since they'll open a bug anyway, but I gotta try [08:06:10] http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Template&oldid=335215#Declaring_a_default_value same in 2006 [08:06:18] *Splarka stops time travelling [08:06:30] but this behavior has always been this way, why do you think otherwise? [08:06:33] Then I'll report this to my fellow template-makers [08:07:09] Splarka: Only been creating templates for some months [08:07:21] ahh, k [08:07:25] Only read the svwiki docs [08:07:38] Nikerabbit: no I download directly from mediawiki [08:07:38] never thoutgt about going to meta before [08:07:55] superman: and how did you configure the short urls? [08:07:57] meta is a bad place to get help, it is out of date [08:08:09] Splarka: I have notived [08:08:11] (I went to meta because that is where the help used to be, I wanted the old docs) [08:08:13] iced* [08:08:26] Nikerabbit: I follow from this url http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL [08:08:42] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates [08:08:45] Nikerabbit: And I have root access as well [08:08:55] which one of those? [08:09:16] Nikerabbit: setup used on Wikipedia [08:09:56] Nikerabbit: the page response, but css and images response 404 [08:10:26] is the wiki public? [08:11:04] Nikerabbit: no, I just test it in my local pc [08:11:06] Splarka: Thank you for your help. [08:11:19] rar! [08:11:51] well, look at the css paths and figure out what is wrong with them [08:13:49] Nikerabbit: for image not found, I look in response text it looks like page not found [08:15:16] hey werdna, can AbuseFilter filter for email addresses entered in the email address field, when creating an account? [08:15:17] that we know already [08:15:29] look at the page source, take the path and figure out what is wrong with it [08:16:45] Nikerabbit: could you guide me a bit? [08:17:51] Splarka: no, that would be a privacy problem [08:18:58] superman: I've already told you what to do, what part is that you have problems with? [08:20:59] k [08:21:59] Nikerabbit: I installed it under /var/www/wiki, and I add Alias /var/www/wiki/index.php to apache config [08:22:38] is there any other way to have a blacklist of known disposable email providers, and prevent users from using them to create new accounts? [08:23:44] superman: then you did not follow the guide [08:24:02] the real path must be different from the path shown in the address bar [08:25:16] Nikerabbit: But when I request http://127.0.0.1/wiki/Main_Page, the page response, but just no css [08:26:15] we already know that [08:26:27] I just told you what is wrong [08:27:13] but I'm sorry, I don't really know how to fix it [08:29:23] I just told you [08:29:33] install it under /var/www/w for example [08:29:47] it must be *different* [08:30:19] as it sais on the page too: [08:30:20] Note Note: The install path must not be same as virtual directory and must not be the web root directory itself, the first point is important, do not try to ignore it to get prettier URLs, or else this method will not work. [08:36:29] One more thing, {{#if: {{{foo|}}}|{{{foo}}| #bar}} makes it a numbered list starting with #bar and ending on line break [08:36:32] 03raymond * r54773 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/Exif.php): * Do not transform EXIF fields with pure text to avoid results like foo,bar@example,com [08:37:06] There's more on the roe befor the if-statement [08:37:10] row* [08:37:38] Sertion: that /is/ a known bug [08:37:53] anything a magic word, parser function, or variable returns is treated as a line start for the parser [08:38:17] {{FULLPAGENAME}} on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*Foo breaks everything you notice [08:38:32] Nikerabbit: Let me try to follow it again [08:39:25] hmm, you're also missing a } [08:39:49] Splarka: Is there a know way around that? [08:39:59] Splarka: Not in the real code [08:40:36] {{#if: {{{foo|}}}|{{{foo}}}|#bar}} [08:41:02] Will that work if foo is set to #323? [08:41:35] hmm, nope [08:41:40] Damn [08:42:07] are you using it in a style tag for a color? [08:42:22] It's were out biggest problems are [08:42:27] {{#if: {{{foo|}}}|{{{foo}}}|#ff0000}} [08:42:32] should work, I think [08:42:37] uggggggly tho [08:42:39] I'll try [08:42:51] Splarka: I'm the only one doing this anyway :) [08:42:59] editing templates at svwiki that is [08:43:13] really? huh [08:43:23] swedes aren't generally templaty? [08:43:33] 03(NEW) Lucene Search update script fails while downloading DTD - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20173 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Lucene Search; (jeen.broekstra) [08:43:35] Well, wer like 5 people, but I'm the "main guy" that should know all :) [08:43:35] Nikerabbit: Thank you, it's working now [08:43:52] Splarka: At first they were seen as mad and almost forbidden :) [08:44:02] foo sort of works... [08:44:21] Not in my case [08:44:31] Ill give you a link in a sec [08:44:50] http://sv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Senaste_%C3%A4ndringar&namespace=10 [08:44:53] Splarka: This is my testing template (it's live,b ut only used on userpages) http://sv.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mall:Anv%C3%A4ndarruta&action=submit [08:45:39] Splarka: going mad with worked :) [08:45:45] Thanks once again [08:46:00] k [08:46:20] *Splarka wonders if is allowed [08:46:37] Splarka: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Projekt_mallstandardisering#Deltagare Those are the real 'template maniacs' :P [08:47:01] all greek to me [08:47:09] And most of them dose not know that {{#expr:}} exists [08:47:15] Swedish* ;) [08:47:50] "Deltagare" means "Members" or "Participants" [08:47:58] Bu now I need to be someware else, thanks once again :) [08:48:27] and I'd gess mallstandardisering means "template standard socialism and depression" [08:48:39] "and playing chess with the grim reaper" [08:48:52] yay stereotypes [09:25:12] 03(mod) Basic XML Feed support for watchlist (implementation idea: token) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471 (10waldir) [09:30:06] 03(mod) Image captions ending with external links display inconsistently - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11239 (10gangleri) [09:33:11] 03(mod) Basic XML Feed support for watchlist (implementation idea: token) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471 +comment (10agarrett) [09:39:17] werdna: Y'know, if the revision number is wrong / misleading, it should probably just be removed... [09:39:32] Kinda mean to have it there otherwise. [09:41:22] 03(mod) Activate abuse filter on itwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19772 (10webmelos) [09:46:05] 03jprilusky * r54774 10/USERINFO/jprilusky: [09:50:02] 03siebrand * r54775 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (19 files): Localisation updates for core messages from translatewiki.net (2009-08-11 09:29 UTC) [09:56:24] http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17554-after-the-boom-is-wikipedia-heading-for-bust.html bah [09:58:00] well it is new scientist... [10:04:46] hello ? [10:08:16] !ask | Diviatrix [10:08:16] --mwbot-- Diviatrix: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. See also: !gethelp [10:08:56] oh, okay, so, i am newb in wiki, how can i add categories and modify my main menu ? [10:09:39] 03catrope * r54778 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditWarning/EditWarning.hooks.php: EditWarning: (bug 20171) EditWarning gives fatal on skins that aren't Monobook or Vector [10:09:43] !sidebar | Diviatrix [10:09:43] --mwbot-- Diviatrix: To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . [10:10:05] To add categories, just put [[Category:Whatever]] at the bottom of the page. [10:10:14] oh perfect. thx. [10:10:51] 03(FIXED) EditWarning gives a fatal error when used with the old skins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20171 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [10:11:12] TimStarling: Could you sync and reenable? ------^^ [10:11:21] If commits are marked as new still, it means they havent been reviewed, and therefore not synced? [10:11:34] Reedy: Usually, yes [10:11:38] That's the theory. [10:11:43] Synced commits should always have the wmf-deployment tag, too [10:11:47] Thats fine [10:11:56] RoanKattouw: did you got my mail? [10:12:01] There's a bunch that was synced yesterday that I haven't updated tags on, will do that later [10:12:03] hi rainman-sr [10:12:04] Nikerabbit: Yes, and replied [10:12:48] Whats the bugzilla syntax to link to code review pages? [10:13:06] Reedy: r12345 [10:13:10] ta [10:13:12] :) [10:13:56] 03(FIXED) linktrail for el (Hellenic) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19949 +comment (10sam) [10:15:02] RoanKattouw: then I haven't got it yet [10:15:35] Weird [10:15:36] Niklas Laxström [10:15:38] datum 8 augustus 2009 11:50 [10:15:59] Oh oops wrong message :P [10:16:11] 11 augustus 2009 11:36 [10:17:21]