[00:09:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Sortable history and contributions for revision deletion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20186  normal->major; summary; +comment (10wikipedia_emails-nachfrage)
[00:13:53] <CIA-32>	03demon * r54829 10/trunk/phase3/install-utils.inc: PHP5 has been out for years now.
[00:18:31] <CIA-32>	03jeroendedauw * r54830 10/trunk/extensions/Maps/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Changes for 0.3
[00:21:08] <CIA-32>	03jeroendedauw * r54831 10/trunk/extensions/Maps/OpenLayers/OpenLayers/ (65 files in 4 dirs): Changes for 0.3
[00:24:07] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Import strips angle brackets on some installations (libxml2 entity bug) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16554  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[00:24:25] <^demon>	Glad to finally put 16554 to rest.
[00:24:41] <CIA-32>	03jeroendedauw * r54832 10/trunk/extensions/Maps/OpenLayers/ (Maps_OpenLayersUtils.php OpenLayerFunctions.js): Changes for 0.3
[00:25:10] <[RTS]BN2VS1>	omg, bloody svn >_>
[00:28:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Statistics shows -1 active users - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20017  (10meno25wiki)
[00:29:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wikis ready for creation (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16976  (10cbrown1023)
[00:29:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New approved projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20181  (10cbrown1023)
[00:30:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New approved projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20181   +shell (10innocentkiller)
[00:32:16] <CIA-32>	03nimishg * r54833 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ClickTracking/ (ClickTracking.hooks.php ClickTracking.php): fixed issues from r54821
[01:21:43] <CIA-32>	03demon * r54834 10/trunk/extensions/DeleteQueue/DeleteQueue.php: Code style tweak.
[01:22:52] <Emufarmers>	:O DeleteQueue lives!
[01:24:40] <Emufarmers>	What's our namespace numbering policly?  0-99 are reserved for core, and everything above that is free?
[01:25:43] <^demon>	Emufarmers: That's supposedly the standard.
[01:27:36] <Emufarmers>	Of course, if an extension uses 100, that will likely conflict with custom namespaces set in LocalSettings.php
[01:27:53] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Add rollback permission for editors on Polish Wikipedia (pl.wikipedia) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20154  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[01:28:07] <^demon>	Annemarie: Can you make the log search non-regex by default or something?
[01:28:17] <^demon>	I'm tired of having to escape special chars :p
[01:29:10] <OverlordQ>	make it PCRE so I can actually use * :P
[01:29:14] <CIA-32>	03demon * r54835 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/specials/QueryPages/ (3 files): Unused globals.
[01:30:07] *kibble 	huggles ^demon randomly
[01:31:10] *^demon 	is huggled
[01:32:33] <kibble>	what a crappy response ;-) leaving me hanging like that
[01:32:55] *Emufarmers 	munches on kibble
[01:33:04] <kibble>	:o
[01:33:49] *Splarka 	co-signs a loan for kibble
[01:33:57] <kibble>	aww <3
[01:37:10] <^demon>	Hahahaha.
[01:37:18] <^demon>	I love ancient extensions
[01:37:28] <^demon>	http://pastey.net/120835
[01:38:27] <TimStarling>	looks like something aoineko would write
[01:39:05] <^demon>	TimStarling: It's the wikiforum :p
[01:39:30] <^demon>	I'm thinking of just removing it from trunk...it can't possibly work anymore. Any objections?
[01:39:33] <TimStarling>	r6791 | aoineko_jp | 2004-12-23
[01:39:46] <TimStarling>	guess I was on the money
[01:40:19] <TimStarling>	you know he wrote wikihiero
[01:40:27] <^demon>	That thing is impossible to navigate.
[01:41:06] <^demon>	I've tried poking it before for some of the filed bugs for it, but I always end up giving up.
[01:41:14] <TimStarling>	wikihiero has a similar style, with underscores, but the doc comments were also a clue since aoineko was possibly the first person to use them in mediawiki
[01:41:31] <TimStarling>	if not the first then certainly an early promoter
[01:41:55] <^demon>	Got any complaints on me removing wikiforum from trunk?
[01:42:13] <TimStarling>	are you sure it doesn't work
[01:42:34] *^demon 	looks a bit more closely
[01:42:56] <^demon>	It's certainly outdated. I'll try installing it.
[01:44:12] <TimStarling>	$wgNavigationLinks and $wgAllMessagesEn are gone
[01:45:03] <TimStarling>	but you can disable both of those in configuration
[01:45:38] <TimStarling>	SpecialPage::addPage() should still work, although it's uncool now
[01:45:59] <^demon>	Yeah, that's the main icky part.
[01:46:04] <^demon>	It could work I guess.
[01:47:12] <TimStarling>	using $wgLang->getCode() in the file scope is a bit uncool
[01:47:28] <TimStarling>	maybe it'll work, maybe not
[01:47:35] <^demon>	$wgLang probablly isn't ready by that point.
[01:51:22] <TimStarling>	"NOTE: this extension is not fully functionaly for MediaWiki version 1.5 due to a database schema change. You will not be able to list the threads."
[01:52:11] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Enable flood flag on Polish Wikipedia (pl.wikipedia) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20155  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[01:57:54] <^demon>	TimStarling: That's reason to just go ahead and remove IMHO :p
[01:58:20] <Aaron|notebook>	yeah, that 1.5 stuff is pretty new
[02:01:50] <p858snake_>	^demon: just post to the mailing list to see if anyone objects to that, and see if you can find any others at the same time
[02:03:47] <TimStarling>	maybe you should try emailing the author
[02:04:35] <TimStarling>	since that's the only person likely to be offended by its removal, and also the only person likely to be interested in maintaining it
[02:04:56] <^demon>	He has no userinfo :(
[02:05:25] <TimStarling>	his email address is at the top of every file
[02:06:00] <^demon>	A-ha
[02:06:44] <Splarka>	+"and the only person who ever installed it" ?
[02:06:47] <TimStarling>	also this is him: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Aoineko
[02:07:12] <TimStarling>	he has an email address registered there
[02:08:17] *^demon 	e-mailed
[02:09:00] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) enable flagged revisions on Portal namespace of en.wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20129  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[02:13:49] <^demon>		echo "[ <b> Error <b /> ] This is not a valid entry point.\n";
[02:15:32] <Skizzerz>	o.O
[02:15:39] <Skizzerz>	</b>...
[02:16:35] <CIA-32>	03demon * r54836 10/trunk/extensions/GetFamily/GetFamily.php: Be bold
[02:24:02] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Fix user rights configuration on arwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20042  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[02:33:09] <p858snake_>	^demon: is that from that extenstion?
[02:33:49] <^demon>	Yes
[02:39:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Fix user rights configuration on arwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20042  (10meno25wiki)
[02:49:49] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Allow blocked users to edit own talk page on es.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19444  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[02:52:02] <Mike_lifeguard>	shall I clean shell reqs again?
[02:52:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable Rollback on en.Wikinews & tie into "editor" group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19815  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[02:57:57] <Mike_lifeguard>	Is there any way to get the search results ordered by time?
[02:58:06] <Mike_lifeguard>	ie to find the disgustingly old shell requests
[02:58:52] <Splarka>	open or all?
[02:59:26] <Splarka>	and by last-edit date or creation date (bug number)? both are possible in Advanced
[03:00:18] *Mike_lifeguard 	looks...
[03:01:06] <Splarka>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advancedkeywords=shell&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&order=Bug+Number  should do it
[03:01:09] *Splarka 	waits for it to load
[03:01:13] <Splarka>	oops, no
[03:01:23] <Splarka>	missed an amp
[03:01:43] <Splarka>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&keywords=shell&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&order=Bug+Number
[03:01:44] <Splarka>	there
[03:01:54] <Splarka>	and: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&keywords=shell&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&order=Last+Changed
[03:02:26] <^demon|away>	Stupid bugzilla URLs
[03:02:46] <Mike_lifeguard>	no kidding
[03:02:51] *^demon|away 	wants 3.4
[03:03:15] <Mike_lifeguard>	Anyone know if installing DPL is a go/no-go for WMF sites at this point?
[03:03:36] <^demon|away>	Doesn't wikinews use it already?
[03:03:52] <Simetrical>	It's not going to be installed for anything but Wikinews, AFAIK.
[03:03:55] <Mike_lifeguard>	oh, there's plenty... I meant newly installing
[03:04:09] <Mike_lifeguard>	uh, small wiki.. not wikinews
[03:04:23] <^demon|away>	I suppose it doesn't scale well, does it?
[03:04:31] <Mike_lifeguard>	it scales?! :O
[03:04:42] <Mike_lifeguard>	I guess they're just falling through the cracks if there isn't a rule to not do it
[03:05:03] *^demon|away 	shrugs
[03:08:43] <CIA-32>	03yaron * r54837 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_ParseData.php: Fixed obvious bug introduced August 3
[03:09:56] <CIA-32>	03yaron * r54838 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/storage/SMW_SQLStore2_Queries.php: Added error checking for proximity queries
[03:10:32] <Mike_lifeguard>	Anyone know what "the <sort> extension" is?
[03:10:51] <Mike_lifeguard>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Sort
[03:10:55] *Mike_lifeguard 	stfus
[03:10:59] <Aaron|notebook>	doesn't it separate newline lists?
[03:11:05] <Aaron|notebook>	nevermind then :)
[03:14:08] <Mike_lifeguard>	Aaron|notebook: could you try to use full sentences so stuff like "Set $wgRCFilterByAge" ( https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10154 ) gets understood by us mere mortals? Is that "I set $wg.." or maybe it means "$wg needs to be set"? :D
[03:15:11] <Aaron|notebook>	The later
[03:15:40] <Mike_lifeguard>	I assumed that since you didn't have shell access at the time, but... still :)
[03:15:52] <Aaron|notebook>	well, that too :D
[03:19:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enabling public viewing for certain pages on il.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10632  (10mike.lifeguard)
[03:22:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Load "wiki does not exist" page from Meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11125  (10mike.lifeguard)
[03:22:33] <Mike_lifeguard>	hm, didn't show I removed 'shell' keyword, or changed summary
[03:22:42] <Mike_lifeguard>	wikibugshasbugs :O
[03:22:54] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Remove autopatrol usergroup from Arabic Wikipedia (arwiki) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20191 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (meno25wiki)
[03:24:34] <wikibugs>	03(WONTFIX) Add MagicNoNumberedHeadings + PSINoTocNum Extensions in kshwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11216  +comment (10mike.lifeguard)
[03:27:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Delete tokipona wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11511  (10mike.lifeguard)
[03:27:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enabling public viewing for certain pages on il.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10632  (10cbrown1023)
[03:28:56] <Mike_lifeguard>	kibble: I'm not sure if that deserves a "yay" or not :P
[03:29:10] *Mike_lifeguard 	double-checks his eyes are still in place and functioning
[03:34:29] <Annemarie>	^demon|away: It passes to commandline grep. Feel free to write something spiffy and cool. :D
[03:34:40] <Annemarie>	I'd love you foreva if you did.
[03:44:20] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Suggestions/autocomplete in search box mis-capitalizes first letter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20190 normal; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (dmacks)
[03:44:21] <CIA-32>	03tstarling * r54839 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/eval.php: Revert eval.php changes from r54653, r54312, r54225 (maintenance-work branch merge), these changes totally broke eval.php due to the change in scope, from global to function.
[03:48:05] <CIA-32>	03tstarling * r54840 10/trunk/phase3/includes/db/Database.php: In Database::getLag(): Add some more I/O thread states.
[03:50:01] <SirFunk>	hi, are there any projects to somehow offline edit and sync mediawikis?
[03:50:21] <SirFunk>	i realize the syncing part would be the hard part
[03:56:54] <Nuro>	you could have a wiki running on a localhost webserver
[03:56:57] <Nuro>	then use special:export
[03:57:03] <Nuro>	and then special:import on the live version
[03:57:11] <Nuro>	It'd be a hassle, but I've kind of considered it.
[03:57:27] <Nuro>	Maybe a better method exists... I'm a total n00b :)
[04:09:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Change of way to initialize editToolbarConfiguration structure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20125  (10liangent)
[04:35:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable Rollback on en.Wikinews & tie into "editor" group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19815  (10wiki)
[05:00:46] <CIA-32>	03tstarling * r54841 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (DefaultSettings.php HTMLCacheUpdate.php): (log message trimmed)
[05:00:46] <CIA-32>	In response to a report from Domas that we are seeing HTMLCacheUpdate::invalidate() queries that touch hundreds of thousands of rows and cause significant slave lag:
[05:00:46] <CIA-32>	* Check the number of rows to be updated before actually doing the query, and if
[05:00:46] <CIA-32>	it is too large, repartition the job. Due to caching and job queue lag, it is
[05:00:49] <CIA-32>	possible that the original partitioning could be pathologically inaccurate.
[05:00:51] <CIA-32>	* Respect $wgRowsPerQuery (regression due to r47317) but increase the default
[05:00:53] <CIA-32>	from 10 to 100. It was originally chosen with a low value because I imagined
[05:01:46] <domas>	TimStarling my hero!
[05:06:07] <TimStarling>	I had forgotten that we have a partition cache in memcached, that makes it even more likely that large update queries will be done
[05:06:14] <TimStarling>	nothing is ever simple when caching is involved
[05:06:33] <TimStarling>	it should all be fixed after that revision
[05:39:02] <Soxred93|n8>	Is there a way to add more tabs in Vector that aren't in the dropdown menu?
[05:46:53] <Splarka>	Soxred93|n8: via javascript?
[05:48:01] <Soxred93|n8>	Anything that works.
[05:49:42] <Splarka>	Soxred93|n8: do you need the same tabs in other skins?
[05:50:03] <Soxred93|n8>	Yes
[05:50:53] <Splarka>	  var tabtarget = (skin == 'vector') ? 'views' : 'p-cactions';
[05:50:53] <Splarka>	  addPortletLink(tabtarget,...)
[05:51:12] <Splarka>	p-cactions in vector is the dropdown, views is the other thing, bit odd that, but eh
[05:51:16] *Splarka 	blames thedj
[05:55:48] <chuck>	!class Database
[05:55:48] --mwbot--	See http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/classDatabase.html
[06:12:22] <chuck>	Is there a method to fetch all rows or do I have to do while( $row = $dbr->fetchObject( $res ) ) { $myobjects[] = $row; }
[06:31:55] <Soxred93|n8>	chuck: I think there's an easier way...
[06:32:27] <Soxred93|n8>	!link Manual:Coding conventions
[06:32:27] --mwbot--	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Link
[06:32:31] <Soxred93|n8>	>_<
[06:32:38] <Soxred93|n8>	!wikilink
[06:32:38] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "wikilink".
[06:32:56] <Soxred93|n8>	!botbrain
[06:32:56] --mwbot--	http://toolserver.org/~amidaniel/botbrain.html
[06:34:21] <Soxred93|n8>	!test foo
[06:34:21] --mwbot--	This is a nifty test of niftiness ... http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:foo << lookie, isn't that cool? :)
[06:34:56] <Soxred93|n8>	!wikilink is http://mediawiki.org/wiki/`1`
[06:34:56] --mwbot--	Successfully added keyword: wikilink
[06:35:03] <Soxred93|n8>	!wikilink Manual:Coding conventions
[06:35:03] --mwbot--	http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Coding`
[06:35:10] <Soxred93|n8>	Fail.
[06:35:59] <Soxred93|n8>	!wikilink is http://mediawiki.org/wiki/`1
[06:35:59] --mwbot--	Keyword "wikilink" already exists. Use "!wikilink del" to remove it.
[06:36:06] <Soxred93|n8>	!wikilink del
[06:36:06] --mwbot--	Successfully removed keyword: wikilink
[06:36:08] <Soxred93|n8>	!wikilink is http://mediawiki.org/wiki/`1
[06:36:08] --mwbot--	Successfully added keyword: wikilink
[06:36:14] <Soxred93|n8>	!wikilink Manual:Coding_conventions
[06:36:14] --mwbot--	http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Coding_conventions
[06:36:18] <Soxred93|n8>	There we go.
[06:36:22] <Soxred93|n8>	!wikilink Manual:Coding_conventions | chuck
[06:36:22] --mwbot--	chuck: http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Coding_conventions
[06:36:57] <Soxred93|n8>	foreach ( $res as $row ) {
[06:45:15] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Request to add Poll extension into Arabic Wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20192 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (orangooo)
[06:54:31] *p858snake 	slaps Soxred93|n8 with
[06:54:36] <p858snake>	!man Coding_conventions
[06:54:36] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Coding_conventions
[06:58:46] <chuck>	Soxred93|n8: and $row is the object format?
[06:59:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Request to add Poll extension into Arabic Wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20192  +comment (10p858snake)
[07:13:33] <chuck>	Can I get the id of a record that was just created? (the id field is auto_increment)
[07:26:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) improve message 'optin-improvements' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20088  (10umherirrender_de.wp)
[07:34:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Name and password fields are different sizes on login form in Internet Explorer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18262  (10umherirrender_de.wp)
[07:34:55] <CIA-32>	03ialex * r54842 10/trunk/extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * kill BOM
[07:47:44] <__neo__>	hi guys
[07:47:53] <__neo__>	anyone using mediawiki as a GTD system?
[07:48:07] <__neo__>	I'm interested if it scales well, if it's fast/easy to use in that direction
[07:50:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) move css for N m b flags in recentchanges from monbook/main.css to shared.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20183  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[07:52:11] <__neo__>	anyone for GTD issue? - I just can't find anything related on the web
[07:55:31] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) [Test Suite]: php t/inc/Revision.t fails on Mandriva Cooker - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15480  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[08:09:37] <CIA-32>	03purodha * r54843 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditWarning/EditWarning.i18n.php: 
[08:09:37] <CIA-32>	Add link to Preferences when talking about them. There is no need to
[08:09:37] <CIA-32>	safeguard a user against following the link, or "Beware to save your
[08:09:37] <CIA-32>	edit before you follow this link!" warning, since most likely only
[08:09:37] <CIA-32>	those users having a safe browser, such as Opera, can be expected to
[08:09:51] <CIA-32>	disable the warning at once.
[08:10:00] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Suggestions/autocomplete in search box mis-capitalizes first letter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20190  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[08:10:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Change of way to initialize editToolbarConfiguration structure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20125  (10roan.kattouw)
[08:12:12] <__neo__>	GTD with mediawiki anyone? :)
[08:30:23] <CIA-32>	03catrope * r54844 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditWarning/EditWarning.i18n.php: Revert r54843 ("Add link to Preferences when talking about them."): the message is shown in a JavaScript-generated alert popup, you can't put links in there.
[08:38:00] <Splarka>	roan: could put it in a prompt() as the second parameter, heh
[08:38:28] <RoanKattouw>	What does that do?
[08:38:45] <Splarka>	gives you an inputbox you can copy from (was a joke tho)
[08:39:46] <RoanKattouw>	hahaha
[08:40:32] <__neo__>	anyone GTD with mediawiki?
[08:40:35] <__neo__>	:)
[08:40:43] <RoanKattouw>	What's GTD?
[08:40:49] <Splarka>	  alert('I am an alert, I just go "Alert!"');  confirm('I am a confirm, you can click okay or cancel to change behavior.');  prompt('I am a prompt, you can stick text in me that can be used in the script','default');
[08:41:22] <RoanKattouw>	Yeah so you'd just make it easier for them to copypaste the link
[08:41:22] <__neo__>	RoanKattouw: GTD means Getting Things Done(David Allen)
[08:42:25] <__neo__>	I'm looking for some time for a good GTD application
[08:42:51] <Splarka>	(tangentally: alerts are generally bad in core JS, except for debugging, or as direct and immediate responses to actions)
[08:43:20] <RoanKattouw>	Splarka: I'm using an alert() in the search&replace dialog now when the search string/regex isn't found
[08:43:32] <RoanKattouw>	Waiting to see what Trevor says about that
[08:43:37] <Splarka>	fair nuff
[08:44:14] <RoanKattouw>	(demo @ http://prototype.wikimedia.org/en-wp/index.php?title=Manchester_Small-Scale_Experimental_Machine&action=edit , Advanced -> icon on the far right in the bottom row of the toolbar)
[08:44:48] <__neo__>	the issue with that is I can't cross-link data from mediawiki to an external application
[08:45:09] <__neo__>	so I guess I'd put all my data(including GTD) in a mediawiki
[08:45:26] <__neo__>	and I'm curious if there's anybody else that's ever attempted to do that
[08:50:58] <Annemarie>	Usability: If you don't have JS, you're fucked.
[08:51:06] <Annemarie>	Which is fair enough, I guess.
[08:51:17] <RoanKattouw>	heh
[08:51:49] <RoanKattouw>	Annemarie: "Don't have" JS hardly exists anymore, this is the 21st century, it's changed to "JS disabled"
[08:52:38] <Annemarie>	Small children in Africa are weeping right now, and it's all your fault.
[08:53:57] <Annemarie>	RoanKattouw: At least in my browser, tabbing from Search for: to Replace: doesn't work.
[08:54:06] <RoanKattouw>	I know
[08:54:08] <RoanKattouw>	It's weird
[08:54:29] <RoanKattouw>	Clicking in the replace textbox and Shift+Tabbing to Search works, after which Tab does work normally
[08:54:54] <RoanKattouw>	Seems like the browser somehow thinks the textarea still has focus
[08:55:17] <RoanKattouw>	Lemme see if an explicit $j('#edittoolbar-tool-replace-search').focus(); fixes that
[08:55:19] <Annemarie>	And syntax highlighting for regex would be sweeeet.
[08:55:28] <RoanKattouw>	hehehe
[08:55:57] <RoanKattouw>	We should at least make the textboxes autogrow
[08:56:06] <Annemarie>	Yeah. 
[08:56:07] <RoanKattouw>	To occupy the entire width of the dialog
[08:56:10] <RoanKattouw>	Can probably be done in CSS
[08:56:20] *RoanKattouw 	shoves to Trevor
[08:56:30] <Annemarie>	And the "replace all occurrences" thing probably needs an "oh fuck" switch...
[08:56:37] <__neo__>	I can't seem to understand the power(if any) of talk pages
[08:56:48] <RoanKattouw>	Annemarie: Close the dialog and Ctrl+Z in the textarea?
[08:57:05] <Annemarie>	Users are stupid. ;-)
[08:57:29] <RoanKattouw>	__neo__: Wikis are supposed to be collaborative; you use [[Article]] to write the article on and [[Talk:Article]] to discuss improvements to it
[08:58:05] <__neo__>	I mean, what if I need to show someone a mistake he did inside the article - wouldn't it be easier to insert my chat message directly inside the article itself?
[08:58:13] <__neo__>	it would be more visible this way
[08:58:23] <Annemarie>	Gah, yeah, the tab thing is gonna drive me nuts. 
[08:58:46] <Annemarie>	Also, the mouse is near Replace after you replace... going back up to X to close the window seems kinda goofy.
[08:58:57] <Annemarie>	Though I'm not sure if there's a better way.
[08:59:36] <Annemarie>	I'm probably just noticing 'cause I'm using a trackpad. :P
[09:00:20] <__neo__>	RoanKattouw: how can you overcome this issue - e.g. you want to show something inside the article that was wrong to the author?
[09:00:38] <RoanKattouw>	__neo__: What you do mean "wrong to the author"
[09:00:48] *Annemarie 	wonders if the replace supports grouping, like \1 ....
[09:01:07] <RoanKattouw>	Annemarie: It should support backrefs in regex more, using \$1
[09:01:14] <__neo__>	RoanKattouw: let's say I've made an article and inside it, at some point I gave a wrong definition for what a word means
[09:01:18] <werdna>	add a [Close] button.
[09:01:33] <RoanKattouw>	Annemarie: Can't close the dialog after Replace click because it only replaces once by default
[09:01:34] <__neo__>	you could come and insert a comment just after my word definition to tell me that I should revise that
[09:01:43] <RoanKattouw>	werdna: [x] button, top right; or had you seen that already?
[09:01:59] <werdna>	no I mean near [Replace], so you don't have to move your mouse
[09:02:00] *werdna 	shrug
[09:02:11] <RoanKattouw>	werdna: Right; easily done
[09:02:14] *RoanKattouw 	writes down
[09:02:24] <Annemarie>	RoanKattouw: Right, but another close button at the bottom might be nice. Or just moving it...
[09:02:28] <RoanKattouw>	Aye
[09:02:28] <Annemarie>	Having the close button be more obvious would be good.
[09:02:32] <RoanKattouw>	I'll add that
[09:02:40] <Annemarie>	Plus you avoid Windows bias with it on the right side. ;-)
[09:03:13] <RoanKattouw>	AFAIK only Mac does it on the left
[09:03:55] <Annemarie>	Is an Undo button possible?
[09:03:59] <RoanKattouw>	__neo__: The way that's done on Wikipedia is you add {{fact}} or something after the sentence, which expands to [citation needed] in a small font, and add a topic on the talk page if it needs further explanation
[09:04:13] <Annemarie>	I don't think it is...
[09:04:18] <RoanKattouw>	Annemarie: Not sure offhand; I don't think we can trigger the browser's undo action
[09:04:27] <Annemarie>	Something to ponder, though.
[09:04:35] <RoanKattouw>	So we should keep a history of our own
[09:06:43] <Annemarie>	Off-topic (sorta): any plans to fix <ref> to not eat paragraphs?
[09:07:09] <Annemarie>	I know codefolding was thrown around as a possible solution.
[09:07:39] <RoanKattouw>	Yes, we intend to do code folding in Citron
[09:07:57] <RoanKattouw>	<ref>s would be one of the logical things to fold
[09:08:01] <Annemarie>	Citron sounds alcoholic.
[09:08:21] <Annemarie>	It's Acai part III or something?
[09:10:21] <__neo__>	RoanKattouw: I'll try to understand how citation works - thanks
[09:10:52] <RoanKattouw>	Annemarie: Acai, Babaco, Citron
[09:17:13] <werdna>	Annemarie:  OM NOM NOM PARAGRAPHS
[09:17:42] <Annemarie>	Poor paragraphs. :-(
[09:17:45] <Nikerabbit>	morning
[09:17:49] <Annemarie>	They just wanna be read.
[09:31:12] <dayo>	how do i supress the 'last modified' date at the bottom of the page?
[09:33:24] <Annemarie>	Edit MediaWiki:Common.css 
[09:33:26] <Annemarie>	Add...
[09:34:06] <Annemarie>	li#lastmod { display:none; } 
[09:34:10] <Annemarie>	Or something.
[09:34:58] <dayo>	i'm accessing via ftp, do u know the path to Common.css?
[09:35:30] <Annemarie>	MediaWiki:Common.css is a wiki page, not an actual file.
[09:35:39] <dayo>	oh
[09:35:47] <Annemarie>	You don't want to edit the actual files; it makes upgrades a bitch.
[09:36:16] <dayo>	hmm, my MediaWiki:Common.css is empty
[09:36:59] <RoanKattouw>	dayo: So add that line to it
[09:37:04] <RoanKattouw>	It's supposed to be empty inittially
[09:38:28] <dayo>	Annemarie: RoanKattouw: it worked. thanks! :-)
[10:42:24] <Diamant001>	hallo
[10:51:50] <Nikerabbit>	Simetrical: are you going to expand html class with useful functions?
[10:56:51] <Diamant001>	hallo ..... wer kann mich verstehen ?
[11:02:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) move css for N m b flags in recentchanges from monbook/main.css to shared.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20183  (10hartman)
[11:10:15] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Show current variant on drop-down menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20193 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Vector Skin; (xu.jimmy.wrk)
[11:14:14] <Diamant001>	hallo ist jemand da ?
[11:18:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Show current variant on drop-down menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20193  (10hydrogen_cyanide)
[11:25:52] <str4nd>	!ask | Diamant001
[11:25:52] --mwbot--	Diamant001: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. See also: !gethelp
[11:26:30] <Diamant001>	kann hier einer deutsch ?
[11:28:14] <str4nd>	Vielleicht, vielleicht aber auch nicht
[11:28:18] <str4nd>	(I can't)
[11:41:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add checkboxes for revision deletion on Special:Contributions, Special:DeletedContributions and Special:Undelete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20189  (10danny.leinad)
[11:54:36] <boss>	hi all
[11:55:45] <boss>	how to upgrade mediawiki with the same mysql database
[11:55:54] <Diamant001>	sehr sch�n ich brauche dann eure hilfe
[12:13:42] <p858snake_>	!upgrade | boss
[12:13:42] --mwbot--	boss: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading
[12:13:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Show current variant on drop-down menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20193  (10N/A)
[12:37:39] <knob>	good morning =)
[12:37:47] <knob>	I just finished installing the latest version of mediaWiki
[12:38:18] <knob>	all good... I was wondering, the   LocalSettings.php    file.    Does it have to end with a    ?>     ?
[12:40:13] <domas>	does not have to
[12:40:18] <domas>	even better if does not
[12:48:30] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54845 10/trunk/extensions/Maps/ (Maps.i18n.php Maps_ParserFunctions.php): Add PLURAL support for 'maps_geocoding_failed_for' and 'maps_geocoding_failed'
[12:54:30] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54846 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/EditToolbar.i18n.php: Tweak 'edittoolbar-tool-replace-nomatch'
[12:58:09] <whiteflag>	I tried multipletimes but I can't get eaccelerator work with mediawiki :(
[12:58:30] <whiteflag>	anybody has any recommendation ?
[13:08:40] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54847 10/trunk/extensions/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
[13:08:40] <CIA-32>	* new style magic words support for ParserFunctions
[13:08:40] <CIA-32>	* add localisation support for ParserFunctions magic in Translate
[13:08:40] <CIA-32>	* bump version
[13:11:02] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54848 10/trunk/extensions/ParserFunctions/ParserFunctions.i18n.magic.php: Fix syntax error from r54847
[13:12:50] <Simetrical>	Nikerabbit, yes, I plan to add useful functions to the Html class.  I'd intend for it to be an eventual replacement for the Xml class, when doing HTML output, and Xml can be used for XML output like RSS.
[13:13:11] <Simetrical>	(hopefully eventually the HTML-specific cruft can be taken out, but that's not going to be anytime soon)
[13:13:38] <Simetrical>	(taken out of Xml, I mean)
[13:15:49] *werdna 	teaches ^demon about trimming when relying inline
[13:15:51] <werdna>	replying*
[13:17:45] <knob>	Hello, I'm making some modifications, and having a quick question regarding an "absolute path" in my server    http://pastebin.org/8498
[13:19:01] <knob>	ideas?
[13:25:06] <Nikerabbit>	knob: absolute path is absolute, don't prefix it
[13:32:20] <fr00d>	Hello!
[13:32:39] *werdna 	wonders if fr00d knows where his towel is
[13:34:01] <fr00d>	I'm using the ConfirmAccount extension to moderate User Accounts, so not everybody can get a Login to my Wiki. I want to get informed if there are new User waiting for an account and set $wgConfirmAccountContact to my E-Mail Adress in LocalSettings.php. But that doesn't work. What's wrong?
[13:34:16] <fr00d>	werdna: Of course do I know where my towel is! What a question!?
[13:38:31] <werdna>	does email in general work on your wiki?
[13:38:56] <Andy_taoke>	Anyone who knows about equation display with texvc? There's a problem with my site...
[13:39:27] <^demon>	werdna: var is ugly
[13:39:41] <werdna>	^demon: ?
[13:39:55] <^demon>	using var in classes.
[13:39:58] <werdna>	context plz
[13:40:00] <werdna>	oh
[13:40:02] <^demon>	instead of a real scope
[13:40:05] <werdna>	what's that got to do with anything
[13:40:08] <werdna>	13:15  * werdna teaches ^demon about trimming when relying inline
[13:40:10] <werdna>	Incidentally :P
[13:40:13] <werdna>	since we're nitpicking
[13:40:28] <^demon>	:P
[13:41:02] <Andy_taoke>	The png files were created normally, but the urls displayed in the webpage seem to be wrong... If I remove something like index.php, the png files can be displayed...
[13:41:46] <Andy_taoke>	How can I fix it?
[13:44:04] <werdna>	Andy_taoke: look at the texvc configuration variables
[13:44:51] *^demon 	just actually suggested SMW to someone
[13:45:00] *^demon 	goes and hangs himself
[13:45:34] <werdna>	Andy_taoke: ask me here, please. Yes, in LocalSettings.php
[13:46:06] <werdna>	if you ask in private and I decide that I need to stop giving support and focus on my real job, then you will have to explain everything to the next person to help you
[13:47:07] <Andy_taoke>	werdna: I see. I'm not quite familiar with the customs in using IRC, sorry.
[13:48:56] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Replace favicon on strategy.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20194 normal; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (church.of.emacs.ml)
[13:58:03] <Andy_taoke>	werdna: I fixed it. Thanks, the variables $wgMathPath for url in web page, $wgMathDirectory for texvc to write to the storage.
[13:58:57] <CIA-32>	03ashley * r54849 10/trunk/extensions/SocialProfile/ (8 files in 4 dirs): 
[13:58:57] <CIA-32>	SocialProfile:
[13:58:57] <CIA-32>	*js cleanup
[13:58:57] <CIA-32>	*UserBoard fixes
[13:58:57] <CIA-32>	*i18n tweaks
[13:59:11] <jcw>	'ello.  I'm running deleteArchivesFiles.php, and getting about a dozen messages along the lines of "Notice - file '011hq5hq9snut9x6f0qxgwxqq83ygia.pdf' not found in group 'deleted'".  Is there something I can do to purge this list of not-found files?
[13:59:13] <faceface>	why can't a template call itself?
[13:59:29] <faceface>	(in the noinclude section that is)
[13:59:52] <faceface>	or rather... how can I make this template call itself in the noinclude section?
[14:00:12] <faceface>	(exemplar you see)
[14:00:32] *faceface 	tries {{:god knows why}}
[14:00:43] <faceface>	hey RoanKattouw 
[14:00:45] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54850 10/trunk/extensions/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
[14:00:45] <CIA-32>	* inactive new style magic words support for SemanticMediaWiki
[14:00:45] <CIA-32>	* add localisation support for SemanticMediaWiki magic in Translate
[14:00:54] <faceface>	OK, got ti
[14:00:56] <RoanKattouw>	Hey faceface 
[14:00:56] <faceface>	it
[14:01:07] <faceface>	{{Template:{{PAGENAME}}}}
[14:01:33] <faceface>	shame, because its supposed to be an example of how to use it
[14:01:48] <faceface>	pretty good example... how not to use it!
[14:03:47] <Sirisian|Work>	Hmm odd. Was the directory changed where mediawiki was located in linux? On my old server it's located in /var/www and in my new installation it's in /usr/share
[14:04:19] <RoanKattouw>	Sirisian|Work: What Linux flavor?
[14:04:25] <RoanKattouw>	Do you use a distribution package?
[14:04:25] <Sirisian|Work>	ubuntu 9.04
[14:04:30] <Sirisian|Work>	yeah
[14:05:00] <RoanKattouw>	Distribution packages do crazy stuff with their paths and generally suck, which is why we don't support them
[14:05:31] <RoanKattouw>	If it confuses you or breaks, people in this channel will probably refuse to help you and tell you to install from our tarballs instead
[14:05:49] <Sirisian|Work>	Also is there a way to change the URL path for a wiki? It used to be URL/wiki now it's /mediawiki and I don't want to confuse people. (It's an internal wiki).
[14:06:14] <RoanKattouw>	Sirisian|Work: Is that the path to index.php or are you using rewrites?
[14:06:26] <Sirisian|Work>	the one to index.php
[14:06:34] <CIA-32>	03yaron * r54851 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/languages/SF_Messages.php: More Italian translation
[14:08:58] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54852 10/trunk/extensions/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
[14:08:58] <CIA-32>	* new style magic words support for Plotters
[14:08:58] <CIA-32>	* add localisation support for Plotters magic in Translate
[14:08:58] <CIA-32>	* bump version
[14:09:20] <CIA-32>	03yaron * r54853 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormPrinter.inc: Fixed 'default=now' for 'year' input type, 'mandatory' setting for 'category' input type
[14:12:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) move css for N m b flags in recentchanges from monbook/main.css to shared.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20183  (10roan.kattouw)
[14:12:46] <CIA-32>	03yaron * r54854 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormEditTab.php: Fixed call-by-reference usage
[14:13:14] <Sirisian|Work>	oh I found it
[14:13:18] <Sirisian|Work>	wgScriptPath
[14:14:25] <CIA-32>	03yaron * r54855 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_LinkUtils.inc: Default forms can now be set within pages, not just categories
[14:14:53] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54856 10/trunk/extensions/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
[14:14:53] <CIA-32>	* new style magic words support for Widgets
[14:14:53] <CIA-32>	* add localisation support for Widgets magic in Translate
[14:14:53] <CIA-32>	* minor formatting updates
[14:14:53] <CIA-32>	* bump version
[14:16:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Show current variant on drop-down menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20193  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[14:18:11] <CIA-32>	03yaron * r54857 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormInputs.inc: Added "None" value for 'category' input type
[14:18:53] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54858 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/languages/SMW_Magic.php: Fix syntax error from r54850
[14:18:59] <CIA-32>	03yaron * r54859 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/ (INSTALL includes/SF_GlobalFunctions.php): New version: 1.8.2
[14:19:00] <^demon>	RoanKattouw: the real fix (for missing merges) would be a full svn up :p
[14:19:14] <RoanKattouw>	^demon: No need, I already know what happened
[14:19:29] <RoanKattouw>	r53975 got merged to skins/vector but not to other paths
[14:19:45] <RoanKattouw>	I'm gonna un-merge it from wmf-deployment once checkout is complete and ask someone to sync it
[14:20:55] <^demon>	:)
[14:24:07] <fr00d>	werdna: Hmm, this is a good question. Where can I try if email is working?
[14:25:48] <Zathraz>	Hi. I just upgraded a Debian server containing mediawiki1.7 (deb package). It now has mediawiki 1.12. in /var/lib/mediawiki1.7 I still seem to have the upload direcotories/files. In /var/lib/mediawiki there seems to be the rest inc. 2 dangling symlinks. Apache is configured to use mediawiki1.12. Backbone is mysql. How should I upgrade? run setup? run update?
[14:26:09] <werdna>	fr00d: set up email notification, try to get yourself an email notification
[14:27:14] <OverlordQ>	Zathraz: either, or, they both will accomplish the same thing, running update.php is easiest
[14:27:21] <Platonides>	Zathraz, debian maintainers did it on their way
[14:27:44] <Platonides>	php update.php  should update your db
[14:27:53] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54860 10/trunk/extensions/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
[14:27:53] <CIA-32>	* new style magic words support for ExternalData
[14:27:53] <CIA-32>	* add localisation support for ExternalData magic in Translate
[14:27:53] <CIA-32>	* bump version
[14:27:59] <Platonides>	you may need to manually move the upload files 
[14:28:24] <Platonides>	and last mw version (upstream) is 1.15.1
[14:29:35] <Zathraz>	update.php should be run from commandline? And requires setting up some config files?
[14:29:57] <Platonides>	you shouldn't need to
[14:30:08] <Zathraz>	or can I run it from within a browser?
[14:30:10] <Platonides>	you would only need the localsettings.php
[14:30:15] <Platonides>	no, from command line
[14:30:18] <Platonides>	with php5
[14:30:30] <Platonides>	it should get the files location right
[14:30:34] <CIA-32>	03catrope * r54861 10/branches/wmf-deployment/skins/vector/ (. main-ltr.css main-rtl.css): Un-merge r53975, which was only partially merged in and broke stuff as a consequence (see bug 20183)
[14:30:56] <Platonides>	but debian moved all files around, so no guarantees there :P
[14:31:09] <Zathraz>	LocalSettings / AdminSettings are 2 dangling symlinks
[14:31:42] <Zathraz>	I do have a LocalSettings.php in the old wiki directory though
[14:31:45] <Platonides>	don't you prefer to install the original mediawiki 1.15.1?
[14:32:05] <Zathraz>	no. I like packaging
[14:32:08] <Platonides>	we would finish faster :P
[14:32:50] <Emufarmers>	I like some kinds of pain too, but packaging isn't one of them
[14:33:08] <Zathraz>	manual installs make systems less maintainable. Which is ok for a homesystem but not for productionservers
[14:33:59] <Zathraz>	especially if you admin many servers
[14:34:00] <Platonides>	updating mediawiki is untaring the new version && php update.php
[14:34:03] <Emufarmers>	No they don't; they make them *more* maintainable, because everything will work to factory specifications, and because everything won't be strewn in different directories, as you're discovering.
[14:34:50] <OverlordQ>	if you were worried about 'manual installs' you'd take the upstream source and package it into a .deb ;)
[14:34:55] <Platonides>	the problem is not in packaging
[14:35:03] <Platonides>	it's in how the package was mad
[14:35:06] <OverlordQ>	one that didn't throw symlinks and weird directory structures in it
[14:35:23] <Nikerabbit>	hi there
[14:35:31] <Emufarmers>	Platonides: sure, but even without that, you've still got the out-of-dateness
[14:35:52] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54862 10/trunk/extensions/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 
[14:35:52] <CIA-32>	* new style magic words support for TodoTasks
[14:35:52] <CIA-32>	* add localisation support for TodoTasks magic in Translate
[14:35:52] <CIA-32>	* bump version
[14:36:48] <Emufarmers>	Though I guess there's no inherent reason it has to be that way: Debian seems to have 1.15.1
[14:37:12] <OverlordQ>	only in unstable and backports
[14:37:20] <Emufarmers>	Bleh
[14:41:21] <^demon>	Distro packaged MW wouldn't be a problem if the maintainers were smoking crack.
[14:41:34] <^demon>	if they weren't, rather
[14:41:51] <fr00d>	Interessanter Weise bekomme ich kein E-Mail.
[14:42:05] <fr00d>	Oh, damn...
[14:43:09] <fr00d>	I don't get emails from my wiki but $wgEnableEmail is true.
[14:45:17] <Nikerabbit>	hi ^demon
[14:45:28] <^demon>	hi
[14:45:36] <fr00d>	Which email adress is mediawiki using for outgoing mails?
[14:49:30] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54863 10/trunk/extensions/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
[14:49:30] <CIA-32>	* inactive new style magic words support for WikiArticleFeeds - has not been branched yet
[14:49:30] <CIA-32>	* add localisation support for WikiArticleFeeds magic in Translate
[14:56:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) move css for N m b flags in recentchanges from monbook/main.css to shared.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20183  (10roan.kattouw)
[14:56:22] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54864 10/trunk/extensions/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
[14:56:22] <CIA-32>	* new style magic words support for Icon
[14:56:22] <CIA-32>	* remove use of $wgMessageCache and use $wgExtensionMessagesFiles
[14:56:22] <CIA-32>	* add localisation support for Icon magic in Translate
[14:56:22] <CIA-32>	* bump version
[14:57:11] <fr00d>	Mailing itself works. I can send mails to other users in my wiki but I'm not getting notified when changes were made.
[14:57:43] <RoanKattouw>	fr00d: You need to enable e-mails for changes for watched pages in your preferences
[14:58:25] <fr00d>	I did enable this, therefore I'm wondering why it's not working.
[14:58:31] <werdna>	Lame
[14:58:31] <werdna>	defined (__autoload) but not found in
[14:59:00] <werdna>	Nikerabbit: did you ever figure that one out?
[15:00:06] <Nikerabbit>	which one?
[15:00:42] <werdna>	[11:30:12] <Nikerabbit>PHP Warning:  unserialize(): defined (__autoload) but not found in /var/www/sandwiki/includes/JobQueue.php on line 203
[15:00:55] <werdna>	It's like October last year
[15:00:58] <Nikerabbit>	uh
[15:01:00] <Nikerabbit>	no idea
[15:01:03] <werdna>	showed up on a google search for that error
[15:01:21] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54865 10/trunk/extensions/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
[15:01:21] <CIA-32>	* new style magic words support for Interlanguage
[15:01:21] <CIA-32>	* add localisation support for Interlanguage magic and messages in Translate
[15:01:21] <CIA-32>	* minor cleanup in extension credits
[15:01:21] <CIA-32>	* bump version
[15:02:11] <Nikerabbit>	either it was some stupid mistake or it went away
[15:02:58] <werdna>	defined (%s) but not found Function %s() hasn't defined the class it was called for
[15:06:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Sortable history and contributions for revision deletion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20186  normal->high (10wikipedia_emails-nachfrage)
[15:06:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enable RevisionDelete on WMF wikis for admins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18780  (10wikipedia_emails-nachfrage)
[15:07:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Activate RevisionDelete for sysops on dewiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19697  (10wikipedia_emails-nachfrage)
[15:07:09] <werdna>	I think it's a problem with serializing article objects
[15:09:16] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54866 10/trunk/extensions/ (5 files in 3 dirs): 
[15:09:16] <CIA-32>	* inactive new style magic words support for SemanticForms - dev. wants trunk to be backward compat up to supported MediaWiki (1.13)
[15:09:16] <CIA-32>	* add localisation support for SemanticForms magic in Translate
[15:09:24] <babilen>	hi all. which encoding is used for page_title in the database dumps?
[15:10:54] <Platonides>	utf8
[15:11:04] <Platonides>	even if mysql thinks otherwise
[15:13:51] <babilen>	Platonides: hmm. That is what i hoped for. However, i am using sqlalchemy to retrieve data from the DB and i get it latin1 encoded..
[15:13:54] <Nikerabbit>	when was mediawiki 1.13 released?
[15:15:17] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Add link to Special:Preferences in MediaWiki:editwarning-warning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20195 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[15:15:20] <Sirisian|Work>	In my httpd.conf I have "Alias /wiki /var/lib/mediawiki" and in LocalSettings.php I put: $wgScriptPath = "/mediawiki"; $wgArticlePath = "/$wgScriptPath/$1"; $wgUsePathInfo = true; but when I go to URL/wiki I get a 404. If I use $wgScriptPath = "/wiki"; $wgUsePathInfo = true; and comment out $wgArticlePath = "/$wgScriptPath/$1"; then I can access URL/wiki but it shows up like URL/wiki/index.php/Main_Page. If I uncomment $wgArticlePath = "$wgSc
[15:15:21] <Sirisian|Work>	riptPath/$1"; URL/wiki/ redirects to URL/wiki/Main_Page which is perfect but it displays a 404. I'm lost. I've been looking through the Short URL FAQ.
[15:16:52] <Platonides>	babilen, don't mind. It's utf8
[15:17:02] <Nikerabbit>	Sirisian|Work: debian?
[15:17:08] <Sirisian|Work>	ubuntu
[15:17:21] <Nikerabbit>	whatever.. what is your document root?
[15:17:21] <Sirisian|Work>	I used the package :\
[15:18:08] <Duesentrieb>	!package
[15:18:08] --mwbot--	Many Linux distributions provide MediaWiki in a packaged format for that distribution. The MediaWiki development team refers you to your Linux distribution for assistance with installing, configuring or using them. The individual communities & companies who maintain such packages should provide installation instructions.
[15:18:09] <Nikerabbit>	Sirisian|Work: what version?
[15:18:10] <Platonides>	yes, this channel would have been more appropiate :)
[15:18:21] <RoanKattouw>	Sirisian|Work: Set Alias /mediawiki /var/lib/mediawiki and Alias /wiki /var/lib/mediawiki/index.php
[15:18:55] <RoanKattouw>	$wgScriptPath = "/mediawiki"; $wgArticlePath = "/wiki/$1";
[15:21:10] <Sirisian|Work>	RoanKattouw, wow that worked :) Thank you.
[15:22:23] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54867 10/trunk/extensions/WikiAtHome/ (5 files): 
[15:22:23] <CIA-32>	* remove use of obsolete wfLoadExtensionMessages
[15:22:23] <CIA-32>	* use new style magic words (none implemented at the moment)
[15:22:41] <Sirisian|Work>	RoanKattouw, as a preference. Should those be in httpd.conf or /etc/mediawiki/apache2.conf ?
[15:23:06] <RoanKattouw>	The latter, if that works
[15:23:57] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Support more than 10 columns in TeX math matrices (MaxMatrixCols counter?) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20196 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: texvc; (brion)
[15:23:59] <Sirisian|Work>	it does work
[15:24:50] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54868 10/trunk/extensions/WikiAtHome/ (. .project internalCmdLineEncoder.php): 
[15:24:50] <CIA-32>	* remove and ignore .project
[15:24:50] <CIA-32>	* svn:eol-style native where missing
[15:27:23] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54869 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/languages/SF_Magic.php: Fix syntax error from r54866
[15:28:55] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54870 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/languages/SF_Magic.php: Really fix syntax error from r54866
[15:30:51] <CIA-32>	03werdna * r54871 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Revision.php: Make pointlessly private newFromConds public.
[15:31:02] <werdna>	^demon: case in point
[15:31:29] <jcw>	I'm running deleteArchivesFiles.php, and getting about a dozen messages along the lines of "Notice - file '011hq5hq9snut9x6f0qxgwxqq83ygia.pdf' not found in group 'deleted'".  Is there something I can do to purge this list of not-found files?
[15:32:47] <werdna>	jcw: dunno
[15:34:25] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54872 10/trunk/extensions/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
[15:34:25] <CIA-32>	* inactive new style magic words support for SemanticCompoundQueries - dev. wants trunk to be backward compat up to supported MediaWiki (1.13)
[15:34:25] <CIA-32>	* add localisation support for SemanticCompoundQueries magic in Translate
[15:37:51] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54873 10/trunk/extensions/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
[15:37:51] <CIA-32>	* new style magic words support for ReplaceSet
[15:37:51] <CIA-32>	* add localisation support for ReplaceSet magic and messages in Translate
[15:37:51] <CIA-32>	* bump version
[15:37:51] <OverlordQ>	clean it from the DB
[15:40:19] <jcw>	How?
[15:40:33] <OverlordQ>	find the row in tablearchive and remove it, ymmv
[15:40:40] <OverlordQ>	*filearchive
[15:41:00] <jcw>	OK.  So how would it have gotten out of sync in the first place?
[15:41:36] <OverlordQ>	not a clue, I can usually do that by running deleteArchivedFiles twice in a row
[15:42:18] <jcw>	To get it out of sync, or to fix the problem?
[15:42:24] <OverlordQ>	to get it out of sync
[15:42:37] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54874 10/trunk/extensions/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 
[15:42:37] <CIA-32>	* inactive new style magic words support for SemanticResultFormats - dev. wants trunk to be backward compat up to supported MediaWiki (1.13)
[15:42:37] <CIA-32>	* add localisation support for SemanticResultFormats magic in Translate
[15:42:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Restrict search by category, or set of categories (e.g. range of date categories) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2285  +comment (10brian.mcneil)
[15:43:14] <CIA-32>	03catrope * r54875 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (8 files in 4 dirs): EditToolbar: Add a Close button per Andrew's suggestion, and replace the ugly action.html = action.html(); hack with an init function, which provides the flexibility needed to use tabs in the link CGD
[15:46:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Restrict search by category, or set of categories (e.g. range of date categories) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2285  +comment (10iain.macdonald)
[15:48:59] <OverlordQ>	mmmm fun uploadbyurl doing weird stuff again
[15:49:10] <CIA-32>	03yaron * r54876 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormPrinter.inc: Added error check for multiple-instance template defaults passed in via query string
[15:50:55] <Nikerabbit>	RoanKattouw: is ui extension going to use the script loader in the future?
[15:51:17] <RoanKattouw>	Yes, it already supports it
[15:51:29] <RoanKattouw>	It detects whether it's enabled and uses it if so
[15:51:38] <RoanKattouw>	(I think; ask Trevor for a more definite answer)
[15:51:44] <Nikerabbit>	uh
[15:51:45] <Nikerabbit>			<script type="text/javascript" src="/w/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/EditToolbar.js?19"></script>
[15:51:49] <Nikerabbit>	doesn't look like it
[15:52:21] <OverlordQ>	mmm, nevermind, I found the problem
[15:52:38] <Nikerabbit>	with addScriptClass there should be no conditionals needed, is it?
[15:53:00] <RoanKattouw>	I have no idea; ask Trevor :P
[15:53:29] <OverlordQ>	If you delete an image it gets stored with a storage key, but if you delete more then one revision of a file, you get more then one row with the same archive key
[15:53:31] *Nikerabbit 	doesn't see trevor around :o
[15:53:46] <RoanKattouw>	It's 8:52, he's not usually in the office until like 9:15
[15:53:51] <RoanKattouw>	(PT)
[15:53:56] <Nikerabbit>	RoanKattouw: what did you use to make that search and replace dialog?
[15:53:57] <OverlordQ>	after the first row is processed the file is deleted, and so it doesn't exist for the second row
[15:54:02] <RoanKattouw>	Nikerabbit: jQuery UI
[15:54:22] <Nikerabbit>	RoanKattouw: :o
[15:54:26] <RoanKattouw>	Google that exact phrase and click Demos & Documentation -> Dialog -> Modal dialog or whatever it's called (last one)
[15:54:30] <Nikerabbit>	RoanKattouw: I wonder if I could make the mine to look the same
[15:54:44] <RoanKattouw>	Sure could
[15:55:02] <RoanKattouw>	Relevant code is in EditToolbar.js and wikiEditor.toolbar.js
[15:55:03] *OverlordQ 	wonders if that even deserves a bugzilla report :(
[15:55:14] <RoanKattouw>	Include stuff in UsabilityInitiative.hooks.php
[15:55:27] <Nikerabbit>	RoanKattouw: hmm, it doesn't support incremental search nor highlighting :/
[15:55:31] <RoanKattouw>	Nikerabbit: BTW I do believe we detect whether JS2 is enabled and only include jQuery if not
[15:55:38] <RoanKattouw>	Nikerabbit: Incremental search?
[15:55:46] <RoanKattouw>	Dude I wrote it yesterday ;)
[15:55:57] <Nikerabbit>	RoanKattouw: :D
[15:58:07] <puzzlet>	win 53
[15:58:13] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54877 10/trunk/extensions/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 
[15:58:13] <CIA-32>	* add messages and magic to files for Negref
[15:58:13] <CIA-32>	* remove backward compat
[15:58:13] <CIA-32>	* add localisation support for Negref magic and messages in Translate
[15:58:13] <CIA-32>	* update extension credits
[15:58:13] <CIA-32>	* bump version
[16:00:22] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54878 10/trunk/extensions/Negref/Negref.i18n.php: Fix typo in r54877
[16:15:26] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Suggestions/autocomplete in search box mis-capitalizes first letter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20190  +comment (10dmacks)
[16:33:43] <sheen>	hi, I have a little doubt. If I add an 'exit;' on line 3 in index.php, why don't I see a blank page upon refreshing?
[16:34:36] <babilen>	hi all. could it be that the pagelinks table is incomplete? I get 7 matches for Taiwan for example, whereas the article contains a lot more..
[16:34:58] <babilen>	or do i completely misunderstood the meaning of pagelinks?
[16:38:29] <Nikerabbit>	evening
[16:38:51] <kevindanko>	how far away is 1.16?
[16:39:57] <babilen>	what is the pagelinks table used for?
[16:40:59] <Nikerabbit>	kevindanko: quite far
[16:44:09] <Duesentrieb>	babilen: for links between pages
[16:45:04] <babilen>	Duesentrieb: so basically every link on a page _should_ be present in pagelinks?
[16:45:13] <Duesentrieb>	yes.
[16:46:08] <babilen>	Duesentrieb: Hmm... pl_from is a ForeignKey for page.page_id?
[16:46:28] <Duesentrieb>	yes
[16:47:10] <babilen>	Duesentrieb: strange.. if i select all pagelinks for pl_from==articleid(taiwan) i just get 7 links...
[16:47:23] <babilen>	whereas the article contains a lot more...
[16:48:41] <babilen>	Duesentrieb: damn.. my bad
[16:48:55] <babilen>	again thanks for the competent help :-)
[16:52:35] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54879 10/trunk/extensions/ (204 files in 183 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-08-12 16:21 UTC)
[16:53:42] <CIA-32>	03tparscal * r54880 10/trunk/phase3/skins/vector/ (main-ltr.css main-rtl.css): Fixes bug #20193 by adding style rules for the selected class of Vector menus.
[16:54:16] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Show current variant on drop-down menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20193  +comment (10tparscal)
[17:33:37] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) add prefs-help-nickname - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18944  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[17:34:28] <chuck>	How do I get the id of a record after it's inserted?
[17:35:51] <RoanKattouw>	chuck: There's some kind of function for that, lemme look it up
[17:36:26] <ialex>	$dbw->insertId()
[17:36:32] <ialex>	or something like that
[17:36:35] <RoanKattouw>	chuck: $db->insertId()
[17:36:37] <RoanKattouw>	Yes
[17:39:38] <chuck>	so that just gets the last inserted row's id? how does it know the field name?
[17:40:46] <ialex>	that's the value of the key with auto_increment
[17:41:23] <ialex>	in most cases, this is the primary key
[17:42:54] *^demon 	tags the industrialization guide with {{fixme}}
[17:44:15] <Annemarie>	werdna: River wrote https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette about trimming messages and replying properly (saw your comment to ^demon). :-)
[17:45:30] <atglenn>	woo hoo, demon used the tag!
[17:46:20] <^demon>	atglenn: yep :)
[17:46:39] <^demon>	I don't want any users thinking that page is approved documentation.
[17:46:49] <^demon>	Because its most certainly not.
[17:46:51] <chuck>	^demon: what's it called?
[17:47:16] <chuck>	wow
[17:47:28] *chuck 	wonders why the "X" is twice the size of the info box :P
[17:47:35] <OverlordQ>	woohoo
[17:47:41] *OverlordQ 	wasn't one of the cited examples
[17:47:48] <^demon>	chuck: it shouldn't be...the template specifies 40px
[17:48:19] *^demon 	needs someone who actually understands these template thingies to fix it.
[17:48:52] <OverlordQ>	link?
[17:49:06] <chuck>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Industrialization_guide
[17:49:21] <OverlordQ>	wow, that's a large X
[17:49:23] <chuck>	and vector's tabs are broken for pages with a non-default background such as manual pages
[17:49:25] <^demon>	template is {{fixme}}
[17:50:26] <RoanKattouw>	TrevorParscal: <chuck>	and vector's tabs are broken for pages with a non-default background such as manual pages
[17:50:26] <OverlordQ>	fixed
[17:50:49] <OverlordQ>	the example used a 40px X, but the code that actually gets transcluded was using a 100px X
[17:50:51] <Annemarie>	RoanKattouw: That may not be Vector's fault...
[17:51:07] <^demon>	oops missed that
[17:51:12] <chuck>	it's not vector's fault, it's just that whoever changed the background needs to change the tab color too
[17:51:23] <RoanKattouw>	Ah right
[17:51:25] *Annemarie 	nods.
[17:51:36] <Annemarie>	chuck: If you provide the code, more than happy to sync it.
[17:51:40] <RoanKattouw>	TrevorParscal: OK they say it's not Vector's fault, ignore previous comment
[17:52:01] <^demon>	OverlordQ: thanks :)
[17:52:36] <OverlordQ>	although /me wonders why the div didn't expand around the X
[17:52:51] <^demon>	I couldn't figure that either.
[17:53:43] <chuck>	Annemarie: Isn't it just part of the custom CSS?
[17:53:52] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Run namespaceDupes on mlwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20046  +comment (10rhalsell)
[17:53:53] <OverlordQ>	mmm
[17:54:05] <Annemarie>	chuck: Yep. Presumably Vector.css needs to be updated or something.
[17:54:25] <OverlordQ>	it's because of the floatleft div the image gets because it was specified as [[Blah|40px|left]]
[17:54:27] <OverlordQ>	or whatever
[17:54:49] <OverlordQ>	I think, who knows.
[17:54:55] <chuck>	Annemarie: I've got sysop on mediawiki.org, i'll add that in if I find a way to do it
[17:55:10] <Annemarie>	Ah, k.
[17:56:27] <^demon>	OverlordQ: ah ok
[17:56:44] <SirFunk>	is the new wikipedia editor available in mediawiki?
[17:57:09] <RoanKattouw>	Yes, as an extension
[17:57:14] <RoanKattouw>	But it's not compatible with MediaWiki 1.15
[17:57:16] <SirFunk>	where at?
[17:57:22] <SirFunk>	ahh, gotta run svn?
[17:57:26] <RoanKattouw>	Aye
[17:57:32] <Annemarie>	Check Special:Version on Wikipedia.
[17:57:36] <RoanKattouw>	!e UsabilityInitiative
[17:57:36] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UsabilityInitiative
[17:57:40] <RoanKattouw>	EditToolbar sub-extension
[17:59:17] <kevindanko>	is there a way to make it compatible :-x
[18:01:09] <RoanKattouw>	Not that I know of
[18:05:15] <facefaceface>	where in the manual is the ajax style search term compleation described?
[18:05:32] <briMestone>	hey guys.. im trying to add a "Back to Top" link on my wiki... how do i do that?
[18:05:41] <facefaceface>	for some reason its not working on a particular wiki
[18:06:06] <rainman-sr>	described where
[18:06:09] <facefaceface>	and I read that  $wgUseAjax = true by defaut, so I'm wondering what is wrong
[18:06:20] <^demon>	briMstone: Make a link to [[#top]]
[18:06:36] <kevindanko>	Does anybody know of a top drop down based mw skin not GumaxDd?
[18:06:52] <facefaceface>	I mean its working here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Searching
[18:07:03] <facefaceface>	just not described there
[18:07:08] <briMestone>	but it shows the word "#top" as the link
[18:07:16] <rainman-sr>	!mwsuggest
[18:07:16] --mwbot--	I don't know anything about "mwsuggest". You might try: !suggest 
[18:07:20] <rainman-sr>	!suggest
[18:07:20] --mwbot--	to enable suggestions in the search box, set $wgEnableMWSuggest = true;
[18:07:20] <facefaceface>	briMestone: [[#top|bottom]]
[18:07:29] <briMestone>	i tried to do [[#top Back to Top]] and still did not work 
[18:07:31] <^demon>	yeah that ^
[18:07:36] <facefaceface>	suggest! that is the magic word ;-)
[18:07:41] <facefaceface>	thanks rainman-sr 
[18:07:46] <briMestone>	aha!
[18:08:02] <^demon>	!suggest alias mwsuggest
[18:08:02] --mwbot--	Alias "suggest" already exists. Use "!suggest del" to remove it.
[18:08:15] <briMestone>	thanks, now how to i add that Top link to every section? :D
[18:08:20] <^demon>	!mwsuggest alias suggest
[18:08:20] --mwbot--	Successfully added alias: mwsuggest
[18:08:46] <facefaceface>	rainman-sr: should I link that from ... Dam its right there!
[18:08:48] <facefaceface>	Before 1.8.0, enabling Ajax support implicitly activated auto-suggestion for the search bar. In later versions, it has to be enabled explicitly, see $wgAjaxSearch (up to 1.13.x) or $wgEnableMWSuggest (since 1.13.0).
[18:08:52] <facefaceface>	I'm so blind
[18:09:28] <facefaceface>	Default Value: false ... the universe is sane
[18:09:45] <briMestone>	facefaceface... can i add it to all section?
[18:09:57] <facefaceface>	so when are you going to put SMW on mediawiki.org?
[18:10:10] <facefaceface>	briMestone: perhaps, but I'm not sure how to do that automatically
[18:10:19] <briMestone>	ohh thanks 
[18:10:23] <facefaceface>	briMestone: it may be a 'message'
[18:10:28] <facefaceface>	or a css...
[18:10:31] <Ryan_Lane>	Is the CDDL license an acceptable licence for extensions maintained in wikimedia's SVN?
[18:10:53] <briMestone>	which file "*.php" does the table of content?
[18:11:07] <Ryan_Lane>	or do we require GPL?
[18:11:39] <facefaceface>	briMestone: you may not need to hack the php
[18:11:53] <facefaceface>	there are css ways of doing things like that I believe
[18:12:01] <briMestone>	oh really...
[18:17:22] <CIA-32>	03dale * r54881 10/trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/libEmbedVideo/embedVideo.js: fixed layout for adjacent embed clips
[18:19:13] <briMestone>	where are the css files?
[18:23:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Show current variant on drop-down menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20193  (10xu.jimmy.wrk)
[18:24:06] <facefaceface>	briMestone: try asking clearly exactly what it is you want to do.
[18:24:52] <briMestone>	im trying to locate the php file that creates the <hr> lines so i can add a link everytime there is a <hr>
[18:25:04] <Annemarie>	skins/
[18:26:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Show current variant on drop-down menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20193  (10xu.jimmy.wrk)
[18:27:23] <t0lk>	when someone registers a new account it shows up in the Recentchanges which is very nice.  Unfortunately it shows up twice, does anyone know how to fix this?
[18:29:33] <ialex>	^demon: do you think that I can delete maintenance/fetchInterwiki.pl?
[18:30:15] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Losing background color on non-article namespaces. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20197 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Vector Skin; (xu.jimmy.wrk)
[18:32:00] <^demon>	ialex: its not really used anymore so maybe. it *does* work as advertised though.
[18:32:10] <facefaceface>	briMestone: what is <hr> lines?
[18:32:20] <facefaceface>	where are they added in a page?
[18:32:30] <^demon>	ialex: I thought about it too but never really decided one way or the other.
[18:32:34] <facefaceface>	will mediawiki.org start using Semantic mediawiki soon?
[18:32:50] <^demon>	Probably not, what do we need it for?
[18:37:46] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Losing background color on non-article namespaces. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20197  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[18:40:15] <t0lk>	could anyone help me figure out why people have started to show up twice? http://en.bahaitext.org/Special:Log/newusers
[18:40:31] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: wassup
[18:41:05] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: bored at work and so ready to go home, you?
[18:42:12] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) HTTP 500 while submitting some page. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20198 major; Normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (xu.jimmy.wrk)
[18:42:26] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Create wiki for Wikimedia Ukraine - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19533  +comment (10rhalsell)
[18:43:02] <ialex>	^demon: the scripts create an Interwiki.php (imho that was supposed to re-generate includes/Interwiki.php that was deleted arround r9000) and that defines $wgValidInterwikis that is obsolete since MW 1.2 (!) 
[18:43:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) HTTP 500 while submitting some page. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20198  (10xu.jimmy.wrk)
[18:43:46] <^demon>	ialex: exactly. it works its just massively outdated :p
[18:44:35] <ialex>	^demon: so it has absolutely no utility :)
[18:44:56] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: coding ajax and spicy stuff all day
[18:45:45] <^demon>	Nikerabbit: Ajax login in core ftw :)
[18:54:28] <^demon>	Election results are in :)
[18:55:03] <thedj>	^demon: foundation list ?
[18:55:22] <^demon>	yah
[18:56:36] <thedj>	ah poor GerardM
[18:56:55] <^demon>	Not a lot of surprises in the results, given the candidates.
[18:58:04] <Nikerabbit>	^demon: nah
[18:58:06] <thedj>	domas: you're 5th
[18:58:15] <Nikerabbit>	linky?
[18:58:17] <thedj>	http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2009-August/053972.html
[18:58:22] <Nikerabbit>	that was fast
[18:58:36] <thedj>	i had just pasted it in .nl channel :D
[18:59:15] <Nikerabbit>	only three gets in?
[18:59:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add checkboxes for revision deletion on Special:Contributions, Special:DeletedContributions and Special:Undelete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20189  +comment (10church.of.emacs.ml)
[18:59:21] <thedj>	normally yes.
[18:59:46] <Nikerabbit>	normally?
[19:00:02] <^demon>	unless we get a surprise board expansion again
[19:00:13] <thedj>	indeed. which i doubt, but still
[19:00:46] <^demon>	It's happened before :p
[19:01:03] <str4nd>	"[...] which has moved to seat the top three candidates."
[19:01:34] *^demon 	doesn't want to be on the board anymore
[19:01:40] <^demon>	Once upon a time I did.
[19:01:47] <str4nd>	Why?
[19:02:27] <^demon>	I prefer being able to say how I feel without worrying how it affects the wider WMF :P
[19:04:34] <thedj>	hmm, perhaps they should update their own page some time...
[19:04:35] <thedj>	"Jimmy Wales, Chairman Emeritus (term until December 2009)"
[19:08:45] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Create Domain for Wikimedia Colombia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19609  +comment (10rhalsell)
[19:09:25] *^demon 	hates Miranda IM quit messages
[19:11:03] <CIA-32>	03dale * r54882 10/trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
[19:11:03] <CIA-32>	* (bug 20037) fixes script-loader loading of color picker (grouped scripts ~usually~ need ; at the end of the last expression)
[19:11:03] <CIA-32>	* fixed select transition multiclip select issue
[19:11:03] <CIA-32>	* fixed poster attribute for "embed code"
[19:11:41] <CIA-32>	03catrope * r54883 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (11 files in 5 dirs): EditToolbar: Add link CGD in favor of external and internal link buttons. Also trim jQuery UI to the parts we actually use
[19:11:55] <wikibugs>	03(ASSIGNED) Wikis ready for creation (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16976  (10rhalsell)
[19:11:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create Armenian Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12017  (10rhalsell)
[19:19:12] <CIA-32>	03brion * r54884 10/branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/ReaderFeedback/: 
[19:19:12] <CIA-32>	Merge ReaderFeedback extension from trunk
[19:19:12] <CIA-32>	(Note: FlaggedRevs should also be updated to a version that has this split out before they both get used in one place together!)
[19:22:42] <^demon>	RoanKattouw: didn't I just un-split things? :p
[19:25:35] <CIA-32>	03dale * r54885 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/includes/articlepages/MV_SequencePage.php: * sequence xml export includes media durationHint of source media (so we don't have to load the media file to know the source file duration)
[19:26:42] <CIA-32>	03catrope * r54886 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/js/ (3 files in 2 dirs): EditToolbar: Fix bug with tabs in link CGD
[19:30:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install ReaderFeedback on strategy.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19988  (10brion)
[19:32:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Losing background color on non-article namespaces. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20197  (10xu.jimmy.wrk)
[19:32:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2007  (10roan.kattouw)
[19:32:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wikis ready for creation (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16976  (10roan.kattouw)
[19:32:20] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Transitions & Effects tabs causes Unable to load required javascript libraries $j.fn.ColorPicker - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20037  +comment (10dale)
[19:32:44] <chuck>	brion: Which revision should be used on MediaWiki sites? The wikimedia branch, or should I just go through CodeReview and see what you've reviewed up to?
[19:35:16] <brion>	well if you pull wmf-deployment branch it should work ;)
[19:35:22] <brion>	or the latest release :)
[19:36:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Creation of Meadow Mari Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19515  (10rhalsell)
[19:36:57] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Thumbnailing produces much worse results for PNGs than JPG, but PNG is the only real option for serious restoration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18014  (10cuerden)
[19:40:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create approved wikis (May 2008): Wikinews Czech, Wikipedia Fiji Hindi & Karakalpak & Moksha & Sakha & Silesian & Sranan Tongo, Wikisource Limburgish, Wikiversity Czech & Portuguese - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14252  (10rhalsell)
[19:40:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create approved wikis (March 2008): Hungarian Wikinews, Erzya & Extremaduran & Gan Wikipedia, and Japanese Wikiversity - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13264  (10rhalsell)
[19:41:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Create approved Finnish Wikiversity [fi] (January 2009) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16977  (10rhalsell)
[19:44:39] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) New approved projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20181  +comment (10rhalsell)
[19:48:28] <dgts>	i'm about to write an extension that deals with category assignment as part of my final paper. what's a good way to just kind of put the idea out there and get early feedback?
[19:48:52] <dgts>	create a page for the extension, even if there's no code yet?
[19:55:38] <Duesentrieb>	dgts: post to the research mailing list, perhaps#
[19:55:46] <Duesentrieb>	or the general mediawiki list
[20:03:49] <CIA-32>	03aaron * r54887 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (CodeReview.i18n.php backend/CodeTestSuite.php): bug 20168 CodeReview should send a warning email to committers whose commits introduce test failures. May need some testing since I couldn't get parsertests --upload to work.
[20:03:59] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) CodeReview should send a warning email to committers whose commits introduce test failures - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20168  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[20:10:05] <^demon>	rainman-sr: if you had a son and he was on IRC, would he be rainman-jr?
[20:11:33] <AaronS|away>	more wikitech-l spam
[20:12:05] <^demon>	AaronS|away: I see one spam, lots of misguided ideas.
[20:13:14] <letourdefrance>	How do i get a menu on a page?
[20:13:25] <letourdefrance>	I mean, a menu with links to all the sections
[20:13:50] <^demon>	!toc
[20:13:50] --mwbot--	TOC stands for "table of contents". A TOC is shown on every wiki page that is long enough to need one. One can force wiki to show TOC on a page by adding __TOC__ to the wikicode; also, one can prevent a TOC to be shown on a page by adding __NOTOC__ to the page code.
[20:17:07] <letourdefrance>	nice. thanks
[20:17:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Patrol marks in non-reviewable pages outside $wgFlaggedRevsPatrolNamespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19241  (10JSchulz_4587)
[20:18:23] <letourdefrance>	hmm if i put <pre></pre> around a text, wikimedia automatically sets a blue dotted line around the text. How can i avoid this?
[20:24:47] <RoanKattouw>	letourdefrance: Wikipedia or own wiki?
[20:34:27] <zrh>	Is there a known bug in MW with regard to templates that block the display of page contents?
[20:34:31] <zrh>	Example in my wiki: http://www.zrhwiki.ch/wiki/Lufthansa?useskin=monobook
[20:35:08] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Enable Rollback on en.Wikinews & tie into "editor" group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19815  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[20:36:19] <RoanKattouw>	zrh: WTF that shouldn't happen
[20:36:39] <zrh>	RoanKattouw: I don't know … maybe a typo or another mistake in my templates …
[20:36:53] <RoanKattouw>	That shouldn't cause *this*
[20:36:57] <RoanKattouw>	The rendered page is literally empty
[20:37:05] <zrh>	I know! :(
[20:39:18] <RoanKattouw>	Hmm you're running 1.16alpha, which rev?
[20:39:38] <RoanKattouw>	Also try disabling extensions to see if one of those causes it
[20:40:05] <CIA-32>	03tparscal * r54888 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Improvments in the rendering of the wikiEditor ui in IE. Still some RTL problems with IE7.
[20:45:56] <zrh>	RoanKattouw: I completely forgot about the extensions, thanks, that might help … :)
[20:46:45] <zrh>	Revision is 54887.
[20:51:07] <zrh>	RoanKattouw: OK, the ParserFunctions extensions causes the problem … without the extension, the page content gets displayed.
[20:51:21] <RoanKattouw>	zrh: Update it
[20:52:22] <zrh>	RoanKattouw: I've just updated ParserFunctions to the latest version (via SVN), the problem still occurs.
[20:52:35] <zrh>	RoanKattouw: I guess I'll have to check my template code.
[20:52:36] <RoanKattouw>	That's weird
[20:52:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install ReaderFeedback on strategy.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19988  (10agarrett)
[20:53:01] <RoanKattouw>	That hsouldn't cause the page to be empty
[20:53:08] <RoanKattouw>	That's a bug in ParserFunctions then
[20:54:33] <zrh>	Hmmm …
[20:55:41] <zrh>	The problem occurs since I updated my MW installation (but at first not ParserFunctions) via SVN.
[20:56:22] <tekmosis>	I just upgraded from 1.14.0 to 1.15.1 are the usernames supposed to be missing on a pages history, now? http://maplestory.neoseeker.com/w/index.php?title=Knights_of_Cygnus&action=history
[21:03:04] <diddy>	Does anybody know a good CMS for offline publishing without web server?
[21:03:25] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) ParserFunctions blocks display of page content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20199 critical; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: ParserFunctions; (bugzilla_mediawiki_org)
[21:05:01] <RoanKattouw>	diddy: No. Try disabling the extension that does the send PM thing
[21:05:27] <diddy>	RoanKattouw, ?
[21:05:46] <RoanKattouw>	diddy: You've got send PM links where the usernames should be. Try to disable that
[21:05:55] <RoanKattouw>	Oh sorry
[21:06:02] <RoanKattouw>	tekmosis: No. Try disabling the extension that does the send PM thing
[21:06:10] <RoanKattouw>	diddy: Addressed the wrong person, sorry
[21:06:16] <diddy>	RoanKattouw, OK :)
[21:10:23] <zrh>	RoanKattouw: I've filed a bug report … for the moment, I'm going to roll back my MW installation …
[21:10:33] <RoanKattouw>	OK
[21:12:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Suppressed edits still appear in Special:DeletedContributions and Special:Undelete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19725  normal->major; normal->high (10wikipedia_emails-nachfrage)
[21:16:39] <CIA-32>	03raymond * r54889 10/trunk/extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
[21:16:39] <CIA-32>	Add description message for ReaderFeedback
[21:16:39] <CIA-32>	Remove wrong entry from translatewiki file.
[21:19:51] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Create wiki for Wikimedia Ukraine - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19533  +comment (10cbrown1023)
[21:20:08] <CIA-32>	03aaron * r54890 10/trunk/extensions/ReaderFeedback/ (ReaderFeedback.php language/ReaderFeedback.i18n.php): Made new specialpage group and fixed missing message
[21:30:00] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Configure readerfeedback extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20200 critical; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: [other]; (pbeaudette)
[21:39:48] <CIA-32>	03ialex * r54891 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: 
[21:39:48] <CIA-32>	* removed entries for removed functionnalities
[21:39:48] <CIA-32>	* fixed entry per r51736
[21:40:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Configure readerfeedback extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20200   +shell (10alex.emsenhuber)
[21:44:18] <Nikerabbit>	what is GCD?
[21:44:22] <Nikerabbit>	CGD
[21:46:41] <RoanKattouw>	Content Generation Dialog
[21:46:43] *RoanKattouw 	is lazy
[21:47:28] <facefaceface>	what is that?
[21:49:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Configure readerfeedback extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20200  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[21:49:45] <RoanKattouw>	http://usability.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:ContentGeneration.pdf&page=3
[21:50:03] <CIA-32>	03tomasz * r54892 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionReporting/ (3 files): Adding a click tracking class for button testing. Need to refactor a bit to cleanup long names and simplify pieces even more
[21:50:33] <RoanKattouw>	tomaszf: Isn't that very similar to extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ClickTracking ?
[21:50:49] <tomaszf>	i've only heard rumors of yours
[21:50:52] <^demon>	I edited an article on Wikipedia :)
[21:51:02] <tomaszf>	this one is simply to report on stats
[21:51:06] <tomaszf>	we already collect them
[21:51:10] <tomaszf>	i have a big table of them 
[21:51:13] <RoanKattouw>	tomaszf: OK just to make you aware of possible duplication :)
[21:51:34] <tomaszf>	yup, i asked brion to send me the page so that i could keep watch over it
[21:51:41] <RoanKattouw>	Ah OK good
[21:52:18] <RoanKattouw>	tomasz: I was thinking maybe the API identifier thing we discussed in SF could be something to do at the hacking days (day, really) in BA?
[21:53:00] <tomaszf>	easily
[21:53:06] <tomaszf>	lets do that :)
[21:54:46] <^demon>	RoanKattouw: I'll be remote, but I think Ajax login is another great idea for that. :)
[21:54:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) ParserFunctions blocks display of page content - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20199  (10bugzilla_mediawiki_org)
[21:55:08] <RoanKattouw>	^demon: Aye
[21:55:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Configure readerfeedback extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20200  (10pbeaudette)
[21:55:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wikis ready for creation (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16976  (10rhalsell)
[22:02:22] <CIA-32>	03yaron * r54893 10/tags/extensions/SemanticForms/REL_1_8_2/: Tag for version 1.8.2
[22:03:54] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) New feed in portuguese planet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20201 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (rei.artur)
[22:07:54] <CIA-32>	03demon * r54894 10/trunk/tools/planet/pt/config.ini: (bug 20201) Update feed URL
[22:08:19] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) New feed in portuguese planet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20201  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[22:08:34] <chuck>	TrevorParscal: Do you know why the footer isn't showing up correctly? http://omploader.org/vMjU2aw/Picture%202.png
[22:11:27] <^demon>	Newsflash: Installing things in improper paths may cause path errors!
[22:11:35] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Web performance: texvc math images do not specify width and height attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20202 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: texvc; (brion)
[22:12:47] <CIA-32>	03tomasz * r54895 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionTracking/ContributionTracking_body.php: adding timestamps
[22:13:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Configure readerfeedback extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20200  (10JSchulz_4587)
[22:13:34] <^demon>	Shouldn't all math bugs be under texvc?
[22:14:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Add link to Special:Preferences in MediaWiki:editwarning-warning - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20195  (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[22:14:33] <chuck>	TrevorParscal: sorry, nevermind
[22:15:38] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) "Poweredby" image and Wikimedia/license image lack width, height attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20203 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (brion)
[22:18:45] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) formulas sometimes not shown in offline/saved-to-disk version of an article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12368  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[22:18:54] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Move inline <script> for jsvars above <link>s for external stylesheets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20204 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (brion)
[22:21:39] <^demon>	Sorry bugspam coming.
[22:21:40] <wikibugs>	03(mod) High resolution equations for printing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3840  (10innocentkiller)
[22:21:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Ajax math editor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6593  (10innocentkiller)
[22:21:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) \operatorname and \bmod don't space in the TeX to PNG renderer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14825  (10innocentkiller)
[22:21:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enabling TeX (<math>) support should be much simpler - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15870  (10innocentkiller)
[22:21:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Display of lower case rho as ϱ rather than ρ on Safari Browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11663  (10innocentkiller)
[22:21:56] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Port texvc to PHP, reducing external dependencies and development impedence for Math extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17465  (10innocentkiller)
[22:22:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) <math> does not work (wrong shell escaping under Windows) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13518  (10innocentkiller)
[22:22:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Quotes inside of <math>\text{...}</math> leads to lexing errors. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19547  (10innocentkiller)
[22:22:54] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54896 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/EditToolbar.i18n.php: article -> page
[22:23:36] <domas>	^demon: did you port to PHP!!?!
[22:24:59] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Mediazilla link anchor "my" instead of "my bugs" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20205 trivial; Normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[22:25:24] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54897 10/trunk/extensions/ReaderFeedback/language/ReaderFeedback.i18n.php: article -> page
[22:26:00] <^demon>	domas: No. I just reassigned all the bugs for math to texvc where they belong. They were scattered about various components in MediaWiki
[22:27:11] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54898 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionReporting/ContributionReporting.i18n.php: Update capitalisation
[22:28:32] <CIA-32>	03catrope * r54899 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (6 files in 4 dirs): EditToolbar: Add escaping, pre-filling (http:// for URL field, selection for others) and smart link between internal link target and internal link text
[22:30:52] <Gambleky>	Hi everybody
[22:34:35] <Gambleky>	I got a problem, uhm. I made a template for hex-codes (without the # - just der numbers and letters). It works perfectly but if I try bind the hex codes into style="" and put an semicolon to the end it adds an &nbsp; to the end what makes it not be working. If i don't set the semicolon to the end it doesn't add the &nbsp; between the hex-code and the semicolon
[22:34:52] <AzaToth>	Did anyone test the patch I made a loong time ago to possible fix the 12.5MP problem: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12374
[22:37:16] <^demon>	AzaToth: It looks ok. I don't have IM setup on this box to test though :-\
[22:37:37] <^demon>	But it passes a "does this look sane" review :p
[22:37:43] <Gambleky>	noone can help me?
[22:39:07] <^demon>	AzaToth: Might want to wfEscapeShellArg() or w/e it's called the params, just to be safe.
[22:39:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Please repair broken kshwiki site stats. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20143  summary (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[22:40:23] <AzaToth>	^demon: was a long time ago, and sadly it got forgotten
[22:40:31] <RoanKattouw>	Gambleky: Link to template code and example of failure
[22:40:33] <RoanKattouw>	?
[22:40:57] <Gambleky>	http://allods-wiki.com/wiki/Vorlage:Farbe
[22:41:58] <Gambleky>	u see that just the red border is working, which ist at the end of style="" and so needs no semicolon.
[22:42:30] <^demon>	AzaToth: It looks ok though :) Spacing/brackets aren't really consistent with existing code, but that's trivial.
[22:45:25] <AzaToth>	anyone here good with tcpdump?
[22:49:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Pontic Wikipedia has been approved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16955  (10rhalsell)
[22:52:27] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54900 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (48 files): Localisation updates for core messages from translatewiki.net (2009-08-12 22:34 UTC)
[22:54:37] <AzaToth>	gah
[22:54:41] <AzaToth>	an heisenbug :(
[22:54:46] <AzaToth>	hate those
[22:55:34] <Gambleky>	Sorry for harassing you - but noone got an idea why the parser is producing such a crap?
[22:55:45] <RoanKattouw>	whaha priceless: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/2009-August/001493.html
[23:03:21] <CIA-32>	03dale * r54901 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/maintenance/scrape_and_insert.inc.php: ignore error in getting bill resource after a few tries
[23:05:10] <brion>	AzaToth: the patch probably needs t obe brought up to date to current :)
[23:05:25] <AzaToth>	brion: hehe, I know
[23:05:44] <brion>	the rule exception check looks wrong; it's only with ImageMagick that we can safely scale large JPEGs
[23:06:08] <brion>	if we tried it with GD we'd need to load the full image into memory, i believe
[23:06:33] <brion>	some sensible example values for the limits could be useful, as well as simply testing to confirm that it doesn't go beyond those limits with large PNG and TIFF sources
[23:06:55] <brion>	should collect some sample input files...
[23:07:06] <CIA-32>	03siebrand * r54902 10/trunk/extensions/ (129 files in 122 dirs): Localisation updates for extensions messages from translatewiki.net (2009-08-12 22:34 UTC)
[23:07:53] <AzaToth>	brion: I'm mostly using epeg for resizing jpegs
[23:08:19] <AzaToth>	brion: the hermitage collection could work
[23:09:39] <AzaToth>	the rule exception was just an addition of !$wgUseImageMagick
[23:10:32] <wikibugs>	03(mod) possible image thumbnailing restriction prevention - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12374  +comment (10brion)
[23:10:48] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Improval of transparency for deleted/suppressed revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20206 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (wikipedia_emails-nachfrage)
[23:12:43] <AzaToth>	brion: off course some real testing is needed, I only based it on http://www.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-options.php#limit
[23:21:33] <brion>	whee
[23:21:36] <brion>	testing is fun
[23:24:39] <AzaToth>	there should be an -limit time also, but I've been unambe to get it work
[23:26:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Consider removing superfluous wrapping div tag in sidebar search form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17777  +comment (10brion)
[23:29:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Install PdfHandler extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11215  +comment (10brion)
[23:30:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Improval of transparency for deleted/suppressed revisions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20206  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[23:31:38] <AzaToth>	brion: seems time and threads is only available throught vcs
[23:32:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Make Wikipedia's edittools easy to install and translate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17647  +comment (10brion)
[23:34:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Make Wikipedia's edittools easy to install and translate - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17647  (10brion)
[23:38:24] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) pt.wikipedia - logo change - 500K articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20207 normal; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (lijealso.wikimedia)
[23:39:29] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Mediazilla link anchor "my" instead of "my bugs" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20205  +comment (10brion)
[23:39:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) process_bug.cgi hides "bugs" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13134  +comment (10brion)
[23:39:54] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) process_bug.cgi hides "bugs" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13134   +upstream; +comment (10brion)
[23:41:18] <CIA-32>	03nimishg * r54903 10/trunk/phase3/skins/ (Modern.php MonoBook.php): Removed extra <div> around Search, fixes bug 17777
[23:41:53] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Consider removing superfluous wrapping div tag in sidebar search form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17777  (10ngautam)
[23:42:04] <AzaToth>	brion: quickie?
[23:42:42] <CIA-32>	03aaron * r54904 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (CodeReview.i18n.php ui/CodeAuthorListView.php): bug 20068 Show author<->user connections on CodeReview authors list
[23:42:55] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Show author<->user connections on CodeReview authors list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20068  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[23:44:57] <wikibugs>	03(mod) MediaZilla Email Address Privacy Concerns - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148  +comment (10brion)
[23:44:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Extra MediaZilla resolution types are not documented - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2426  +comment (10brion)
[23:45:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Unclear how to submit feature requests. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3659  +comment (10brion)
[23:45:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Bugzilla doesn't render [[%]] correctly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5268  +comment (10brion)
[23:45:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Consistent link generation between HEAD and MediaZilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5449  +comment (10brion)
[23:45:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Lost bug report due to unknown keywords - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12133  +comment (10brion)
[23:45:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Big black boxes shown instead of dependency graphs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13029  +comment (10brion)
[23:45:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) process_bug.cgi hides "bugs" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13134  +comment (10brion)
[23:45:19] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Open Bugzilla to search spiders - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13881  +comment (10brion)
[23:45:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Consistency with "Priority" field - please remove completely or restore to "new bug" form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17895  +comment (10brion)
[23:45:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Show LATER and possibly WONTFIX bugs in default Bugzilla search? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19650  +comment (10brion)
[23:45:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Transfer bug's votes on duplication - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18192  +comment (10brion)
[23:47:16] <p858snake>	:o high presit of mediawiki is very active it appears
[23:47:27] <^demon>	brion: I can fix the LATER issue for BZ...we just need to agree on what exactly we want :p
[23:47:42] <brion>	whee
[23:48:05] <p858snake>	*priest
[23:48:16] <^demon>	I agree with adding LATER, but I'm hestitent on WONTFIX. We've had a _lot_ of really dumb WONTFIX bugs that aren't worth showing in default searches.
[23:49:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Upload by url is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20087  (10dale)
[23:51:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Consider removing superfluous wrapping div tag in sidebar search form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17777  (10ngautam)
[23:51:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wikibugs should report status changes, not just the current status - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18054  (10brion)
[23:52:40] <brion>	^demon: well we've had a lot of WONTFIXes that were duped 15 times too ;)
[23:53:17] <^demon>	Blahhh, ok.
[23:54:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Upload by url is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20087  (10brion)
[23:54:35] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Special:Random does not include all pages on large wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20208 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (apper)
[23:54:44] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) New 'wikilists-l' list for discussion of mailing list issues, blocks, etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20209 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (stvrtg)
[23:56:20] <p858snake>	oh noes, that bug is going to be dramhaz
[23:57:36] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) pt.wikipedia - logo change - 500K articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20207  +comment (10brion)
[23:58:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) New 'wikilists-l' list for discussion of mailing list issues, blocks, etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20209  +comment (10rjd0060.wiki)