[00:01:00] 03(NEW) Setup some kind of pagination on CentralNotice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20230 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralNotice; (cbrown1023) [00:01:41] 03brion * r54985 10/trunk/extensions/LocalisationUpdate/ (LocalisationUpdate.class.php LocalisationUpdate.php): fix output display [00:06:26] 03brion * r54986 10/trunk/extensions/LocalisationUpdate/LocalisationUpdate.class.php: No sense re-parsing unchanged files just because we're loading them off local disk... [00:10:21] 03(NEW) Allow "archiving" of CentralNotice templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20231 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralNotice; (cbrown1023) [00:36:56] 03brion * r54987 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ConfEditor.php: [00:36:56] Fixed double-escaping bug in ConfEditor's handling of double-quoted strings. [00:36:56] For some reason it was *re-escaping* single-quoted strings; this would lead to corruption in LocalisationUpdate. [00:40:59] 03brion * r54988 10/branches/wmf-deployment/includes/ConfEditor.php: Merge double-quote string fix from trunk [00:45:40] 03brion * r54989 10/trunk/extensions/LocalisationUpdate/tests/ (. tokenTest.php): [00:45:40] Quickie test script to confirm that the data extraction is actually working correctly. [00:45:40] Caught a bug in ConfEditor with double-quoted strings containing apostropes, fixed in r54987 on trunk (merged to wmf-deployment) [00:50:10] do you folks mind if stewards clean up stuff? [00:52:39] Slimcea_boy, what? [00:52:52] like spam and stuff [00:52:57] On mediawiki.org? [00:53:13] Go ahead and do what you feel like, as long as it's sane. [00:53:19] You have to pay the non-resident admin tax, though [00:53:43] luckily it's a percentage of how much they pay me to be an admin [00:53:46] and 50% of 0 is still 0 :D [00:55:03] Slimcea_boy: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project_talk:Administrators [00:55:29] omg mw.org drama [00:56:07] Yeah, that was annoying. [00:56:19] I don't know why AnonDiss is a sysop there. [00:57:06] I don't know why a lot of people are sysops there; they asked a while ago, I guess [00:57:28] Heh, same with commit access. [00:57:29] yay [00:57:49] Simetrical: You could get Slimcea_boy to take care of that. ;-) [00:58:15] Annemarie, nah, I would just ask someone like flyingparchment. [00:58:37] >:-) [00:58:43] Counting on the power of annoyance being greater than laziness? [00:59:07] Well, he hasn't made any trouble lately, and he never actually abused his adminship that I can see, so it's not really an issue at present. [00:59:10] To be fair, that "issue" is months old. [00:59:17] What Sim said. [00:59:21] A year old, actually [00:59:49] But if it came up, no need to bother with those silly stewards who will ask for tedious things like "consensus" or whatever. [00:59:52] :) [01:05:40] 03brion * r54990 10/trunk/extensions/LocalisationUpdate/tests/tokenTest.php: [01:05:40] include extensions in tests; don't die when ConfEditor parsing hits an [01:05:40] exception; try to avoid fatal error in eval()s from extension .i18n.php files [01:05:40] attempting to require() or require_once() their .i18n.magic.php brothers, which [01:05:40] fails because their paths are relative to __FILE__ [01:06:49] well if you want to why they have it, why not just ask someone like brion? [01:08:32] It was Aaron who promoted him. I asked him why, and I think his answer was something like "meh". [01:08:35] (IIRC) [01:08:39] (this was months ago) [01:14:15] It's nice not to have to worry about consensus or providing reasons; we're all one happy cabal here. [01:14:30] obviously it was because his collection of admin bits wasn't big enough yet [01:15:15] Slimcea_boy: I'm surprised he didn't convince somebody to give him bureaucrat too [01:15:32] ok, fair number of extension files which confuse ConfEditor's parser on some strings, which end up with an extra quote char on the end of the string [01:17:07] Ouch. [01:31:10] 03brion * r54991 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ConfEditor.php: (log message trimmed) [01:31:10] Added trim() call to work around mystery bug where whitespace gets appended to single or double-quoted string tokens; without it we ended up reading in the extra quote on the end as if it were part of the string. [01:31:10] Examples from reading in extension .i18n files: [01:31:10] - 'quiz_reset' => 'Reset', [01:31:12] + 'quiz_reset' => 'Reset"', [01:31:14] - 'very-special-message' => 'Aren\'t I special?', [01:31:16] + 'very-special-message' => 'Aren\'t I special?" [01:31:47] gah, it's 6:30? [01:31:50] ok i'm gettin out of here :D [01:32:03] *Emufarmers chains brion to the room [01:32:04] 03(mod) "Move this page" is linked to wrong URI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20172 (10mizusumashi) [01:52:28] Hi all, I've been trying to set up a local mirror of enwiki. Import seems to work fine with a patched mwdumper to get around the invalid contributor thing. But I can't get templates like infoboxes to show up, any idears? [01:53:02] I've installed ParserFunctions, Cite, Category Tree & wikihiero patches [02:01:15] Something to do with transclusion seems to be the problem, but I can't find out what needs to be enabled/installed/changed [02:24:29] Jake1: can you show what the page looks like? [02:25:19] actually, I think it may be due to an incomplete import, I will come back and followup if I have more issues [02:25:30] Question: Can mwdumper resume a failed import, or should I start from scratch? [02:25:58] I just installed Tiny, things look much better already, but still the template issue [02:27:32] Check it out if you like: http://dpaste.org/9c4p/ I would figure if a dump go this far, there should be _some_ templates imported... [02:27:59] I imagine you could remove the pages from the XML file that were imported, then import the remainder [02:28:25] 14(INVALID) Installation script halts under php 5.3 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20220 +comment (10lhridley) [02:29:19] that could work, thank you. [03:09:25] Is there an existing extension that transcludes the contents of all of the pages in a category? [03:15:47] Hmm. You could possibly do that with DPL . . . [03:15:55] *DynamicPageList [03:16:15] Check its manual site to see? It's worryingly flexible. [03:36:29] 03(mod) "Move this page" is linked to wrong URI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20172 (10mizusumashi) [04:04:55] 03(NEW) Aramaic Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20232 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; (bashar.hanna) [04:06:32] 03yaron * r54992 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMaps/SemanticMaps.php: Improved service-setting in form input code to make more readable and remove PHP "notice" error [04:08:05] 03(mod) Aramaic Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20232 (10p858snake) [04:20:09] 04(REOPENED) Edit boxes lose changes on back/forward - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20221 +comment (10herd) [04:30:12] 03nad * r54993 10/trunk/extensions/RecordAdmin/ (RecordAdmin.php RecordAdmin_body.php): make html regex's case insensitive [04:45:34] <^demon> Dear importers: just because content on meta says transwiki to mw.org doesn't mean you have to. Sometimes things aren't worth saving and you might as well delete. <-- AMEN BROTHER [04:48:56] http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Licenses_extension&action=history We need a "mediawiki.org is not your dumping ground" template. And certain people need to learn how to check edit histories before throwing templates on things and transwikiing them. [04:49:26] I've imported plenty of crap pages to MW.org [04:49:42] If it's in any way MW-related, you all should be the ones making the decision about it. [04:49:47] Not Meta admins. [04:50:07] Yes: but we're lazier. :-( [04:50:15] :-D [04:50:42] Don't care. [04:50:46] Of course I had to do it using Special:Export / Special:Import, so I got bored and stopped. [04:51:33] http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Meta:Requests_for_deletion&diff=next&oldid=1419880 >.< [04:52:22] 03(mod) {{REVISIONUSER}} acts like {{CURRENTUSER}} when $this->mRevisionId is false - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19006 (10herd) [04:54:54] Hmmm. [04:54:58] And it's not like importing is always bad. Sometimes there are useful pages, or pages that can at least be merged into a useful page. (IAlex did some good work in that regard) [04:56:05] But there're enough broken/dangerous kludges lying around; we don't need more from 2003 [04:56:45] Speaking of kludges, the CentralNotice still looks like shit. [04:57:05] 03dale * r54994 10/trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/libAddMedia/remoteSearchDriver.js: remoteSearchDriver: fixed closeAll for stand alone usage [05:00:02] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:As_your_site_grows Mostly already written elsewhere or obsolete, but could be merged. But don't just import it and leave it lying around like that. :\ [05:00:11] Anyway, nini; enough rage for one night ^__^ [05:05:58] there he is [05:20:10] Emufarmers: just nuke the mediawiki wiki and start again >.> [05:21:16] I would hate to part with pages like http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Splarka/sandbox [05:22:46] http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:210.15.244.104&curid=31719&diff=270882&oldid=218400 heh [05:22:48] mmm, the joy of displaytitle [05:22:53] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Songs http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Splarka/Throbber http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Splarka/PHP http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Splarka/trunk [05:23:07] keep those, nuke the rest [05:23:59] o: that's what I get for slacking on my rc review [05:25:18] 03(NEW) ApiLogin::execute() doesn't handle LoginForm :: RESET_PASS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20233 trivial; Normal; MediaWiki: API; (greenreaper) [05:26:55] *Splarka senses evil agenda from Green [05:27:17] Oh, this is just an evil edge case, I've already got my evil claws into the evil empire. [05:27:40] Who evily haven't upgraded from 1.14.1 yet so I can't use the slightly less evil email uiprop. [05:28:41] FWIW, the evil AuthPlugin did handle the exception, if in an evil manner. [05:29:07] *Splarka evilly has been tempting uberfuzzy with evil features of evil 1.15 and super-evil 1.16, to evilly make the evil empire eviluate the evilution of their evil evil evil and evil [05:30:24] 03(mod) JavaScript still tries to capitalise the first letter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15470 (10admin) [05:48:27] Songs is a new one to me. [05:48:29] Nice. [06:34:41] 03shinjiman * r54995 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/OptIn/ (OptIn.js OptIn.php): Fix mobile web browsers cannot be detected to their specified name. [06:40:21] 03shinjiman * r54996 10/trunk/extensions/DynamicPageList/ (4 files): [06:40:21] Update the DPL codebase to 1.8.8. [06:40:21] code based on Gero aka Algorithmix [06:50:41] hey guys i'm using the following javascript code in Common.js to do a realtime clock - http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Richardj87 All I have to do is put text and it replaces the text with a ticking clock. Problem is that it works on firefox but not IE, any ideas what IE doesn't like or where I could find out how they handle it differently? [06:52:24] actually nvm, just figured it out :P [06:52:59] yah, you've got the wrong function named there in the IE variant [06:53:08] mediawiki has some built in helpers for that [06:53:13] addOnloadHook and addHandler [06:53:32] yeah it was a wrong function name, my bad [06:53:34] you can use just: addOnloadHook(simpleClock); [06:53:41] ah ok sweet [06:54:21] and if you need a stopper (you shouldn't really), addHandler(window,'unload',stop) I think [06:54:38] ta [07:01:16] > The most popular language used by open source developers is.....C Well only if you count by line. No wait, it's JavaScript if you count stuff that projects kinda/sorta use. And hey if you use only one language it's likely Perl [07:10:53] (link: http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3834441/JavaScript+PHP+on+the+Rise+for+Open+Source+Devs.htm ) [07:28:37] hi [07:28:43] i'm getting a silent login failure [07:28:54] i get the "login successful" page [07:29:09] but continuing, I'm not actually logged in [07:29:52] likely a session issue then [07:30:27] what should I look at to help debug that? [07:32:51] i had to stop the mysqlserver earlier today with a kill -9 before restarting it [07:38:24] 03(NEW) Clickable tabs overlap - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20234 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Vector Skin; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [07:39:20] Simetrical, ya might find this (un)interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Common.css#Wikitable_borders_disappear_in_email.2C_blogs.2C_disks.2C_mobile_devices [07:46:56] okay.. so if I click on "remember me on this computer", I can actually log in. if I don't click that, I can't log in [07:47:20] how can I debug this? [07:58:52] 03(mod) New toolbar breaks wikEd - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20134 (10roan.kattouw) [08:03:23] !upload [08:03:23] --mwbot-- File uploads are disabled per default, set $wgEnableUploads=true to enable it. See for configuration details, and for using uploaded images and other files. [08:03:34] hmm [08:03:55] where may I find information about the upload API? [08:04:16] guillom: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php Ctrl+F for action=upload [08:04:29] Gah [08:04:33] It's not enabled on Wikipedia [08:04:40] I tried that [08:04:49] heh [08:04:52] I thought there was more [08:05:07] http://prototype.wikimedia.org/en-wp/api.php does have it [08:05:34] thanks [08:05:58] 03(mod) Change of way to initialize editToolbarConfiguration structure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20125 (10roan.kattouw) [08:06:22] any idea how long it would take for the upload action to make it to Wikimedia websites? [08:09:22] 03(mod) Activate AbuseFilter on itwikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20216 (10federicoleva) [08:09:25] Still being reviewed by Brion, I think. [08:09:31] Low priority, though. [08:09:37] found out the problem... php's session.save_path wasn't writable by the user that the php script was running as [08:10:27] thanks Annemarie [08:12:38] 03raymond * r54997 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialVersion.php: Recommit r52524 (ialex) after general revert r54735: '' => null when 'descriptionmsg' is not set in $wgExtensionCredits to match $descriptionMsg's default value in SpecialVersion::formatCredits() [08:15:02] I wonder if there's a bug open about API uploading. [08:15:54] 03dale * r54998 10/trunk/phase3/js2/ (11 files in 7 dirs): [08:15:54] * stubs for upload proxy (upload to commons from other wikis edit page & insert your result). [08:15:54] * Only firefogg non-proxied api based uploads supported so far. [08:16:26] 03(mod) Edit boxes lose changes on back/forward - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20221 (10roan.kattouw) [08:17:06] 03raymond * r54999 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialVersion.php: [08:17:06] Recommit r53268 (simetrical) after general revert r54735: Fix bug, werdna not on Special:Version [08:17:06] Recommit r53485 (siebrand) after general revert r54735: Add major contributors raymond, ialex, siebrand [08:17:06] Recommit r54450 (demon) after general revert r54735: Might as well. [08:17:27] Annemarie: there are a few... is there an issue with trunk your having? [08:17:47] mdale: guillom was asking about it being enabled on WMF wikis. [08:18:51] well brion said he would take a shot a looking at syncing it up this week.. but this week is nearly over. [08:19:01] heh, "Tuesday" [08:19:08] was there 3 branch merges or 4? [08:19:33] yea the trunk has gotten kind of far behind.. its a big merge [08:19:49] / big set of code to review [08:20:02] 03raymond * r55000 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialVersion.php: [08:20:02] Recommit r54069 (shinjiman) after general revert r54735: * (bug 20013) Added CSS class "mw-version-ext-version" is wrapped on the [08:20:02] extension version in Special:Version [08:20:04] plus, how will this work exactly? [08:20:12] yay r55k! [08:20:16] he'll have to merge it all into wmf-deployment first right? [08:20:54] Yes, I think so. [08:21:24] Anyway, now's a good time to get controversial features implemented. [08:21:28] 03(NEW) Admin not admitted, where admin right required? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20235 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SecurePoll; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [08:21:50] RoanKattouw: in that case, useful to leave that open until it is 'FIXED', since it isn't an upstream problem any more than supporting IE is ^_^ [08:21:57] (per FF/editboxes) [08:22:12] AYe [08:22:35] He could do a Friday night sync. [08:22:56] "We need to put a man on the moon before the decade is out"... meanwhile in 1969... [08:23:57] 03(mod) Precision of Type:Number cannot be specified on output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20217 (10markus) [08:26:13] 03(NEW) Mixed languages in page header. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20236 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SecurePoll; (bugzilla.wikimedia) [08:26:21] The moon landing is a hoax. [08:27:02] of course it is, it wouldn't land, it would crash [08:35:12] Simetrical: I saw that [08:35:28] 03(mod) Flood flag for es.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19923 (10dferg-wiki) [08:55:46] 03(NEW) mwsuggest.js: search anywhere in the article name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20237 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Search; (mr.primus) [08:58:55] on a mediawiki page: is it possible to link to a certain image revision using a wikilink directly. couldn't find any information about that [09:02:14] topro: nope (though possibly possible with action paths, not sure) [09:02:32] [{{fullurl:Page name|oldid=12345}} rev 12345] [09:02:37] ^ or with external link syntax [09:03:10] Splarka: for sure this works with external link syntax but it's not that flexible and user-friendly [09:03:30] Wrap it in a template? [09:04:01] Splarka: will try your fullurl proposal [09:04:05] [{{fullurl:Page name|oldid={{{1}}}}} {{{2|rev {{{1}}}}}}] [09:04:30] Annemarie: sorry, i'm not familiar with templates use, could you explain a little more in detail please [09:04:34] I now pronounce you user and template, you may WP:KISS the edit [09:04:43] !templates | topro [09:04:43] --mwbot-- topro: For more information about templates, see . The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions and enabling HTML Tidy [09:04:57] Hmm, that should use a see also. [09:07:02] Done. [09:07:18] thanks so far, there are some directions now. Have to learn a lot about mediawiki before I might ask about what results i got... [09:07:21] !templates [09:07:21] --mwbot-- For more information about templates, see . See also: !templateproblems [09:07:44] Templates are just pages that accept variables, so you can add content more easily and consistently. [09:07:52] So you'd make Template:oldimage or something. [09:08:23] And invoke it using {{oldimage |1 = Image_foo.jpg |rev = 5}} [09:08:27] Annemarie: well i'm familiar with templates in c++ so i can imagine it's use, thank you [09:08:38] Yes, it's not a very difficult concept. :-) [09:12:43] all pages accept variables [09:24:35] hi [09:24:48] bräuchte hilfe auf deutsch hat wer zeit? [09:25:10] bekomme beim upload folgende fehlermeldung: [09:25:12] Die Datei „C:\xampp\tmp\php5254.tmp“ konnte nicht nach „public/3/39/Beschriftungsmasse.JPG“ umbenannt werden. [09:25:36] hi guys! if i click on an image i get: Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 20971520 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 122880 bytes) in /root/www/ultimatecommander.org/wiki/includes/specials/SpecialUpload.php on line 1035 [09:25:44] raising memory_limit doesn't solve the issue [09:25:51] what should i do? [09:27:29] ok one more in english: error while trying to upload an image: the file „C:\xampp\tmp\php5254.tmp“ could not be copied to „public/3/39/Beschriftungsmasse.JPG“ [09:27:32] plz help [09:28:24] schumischumi, i guess your directory permissions are messed up, so apache cannot write to the target directory [09:30:14] the apache daemon user has full access too all xampp and htdocs folders [09:30:38] 03(mod) New approved projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20181 (10Wiki.Melancholie) [09:30:49] the strange thing is, that mediawiki wants to put it in the public folder which doesnt exist [09:31:38] and if i try to define the upload path the error message doesnt change [09:31:38] schumischumi: It says public but it really means the upload folder [09:31:44] -.- [09:31:46] nice [09:32:02] Check that the upload dir really is writable, and that /3 and /3/39 are as well [09:32:03] what is my upload folder by default? [09:32:12] there is no 3 [09:32:14] that is the porb [09:32:16] mlaci: How did you try raising your memlimit [09:32:16] prob [09:32:46] schumischumi: Then it probably doesn't have permission to create that dir. Try to chmod the upload dir to 777 [09:32:54] 03(mod) Precision of Type:Number cannot be specified on output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20217 (10mail) [09:33:56] ok i gave every user full access to the image folder [09:34:15] restarting apache [09:34:25] btw i work with a win2k8 server [09:34:39] RoanKattouw, in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini, then apachectl restart [09:34:48] apache2ctl restart, to be correct [09:34:57] mlaci: You may have an ini_set() call in LocalSettings.php overriding that [09:34:58] nope doesnt work [09:35:10] schumischumi: Did it create the directory this time? [09:35:32] yes [09:35:34] dir is there [09:35:45] OK, what's the permissions on the new dir? [09:36:23] full acces for apache daemon and all users [09:36:40] RoanKattouw, the ini_set in LocalSettings.php is commented out [09:37:03] mlaci: Hm. You sure it's the only ini_set in there? [09:37:23] the only thing i did to activate the upload is to setz enableupload to true [09:37:26] mlaci: Try adding an ini_set( 'memory_limit', 'whatever' ); to the bottom of LocalSettings and see if that works [09:37:27] did i miss a step? [09:37:38] 03(mod) Improve hiding of usernames by looking for rv's with revealing edit summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18526 minor->major; normal->high (10wikipedia_emails-nachfrage) [09:37:54] schumischumi: No, you did OK, permissions are probably biting you. Did it create /3/39 or just /3 ? [09:38:12] this time images/b/b2 [09:38:33] error: „public/b/b2/Calendar.gif“ [09:38:45] i mean same error different path [09:39:10] ok one last try to change the rights [09:39:30] RoanKattouw, you were absolutely right. there was an ini_set() call in LocalSettings.php, but i've missed it because i checked another mediawiki installation. removing the call solved my problem. thank you! [09:39:30] Yes but did the /3/39 work for you? [09:40:05] me? [09:40:10] Yes [09:40:20] 3/39 still exists [09:40:26] but with no images in it [09:42:38] ok i changed the permission for "everyone" to full access and it didnt work [09:42:40] Hm [09:42:46] folder exist [09:42:51] but no files [09:43:07] the error message literaly translated says [09:43:18] file x could not be renamed to y [09:43:32] but i think mediawiki means copied [09:43:37] instead of renamed [09:49:15] could a restriction in my httpd.conf be a problem? i installed modsecurity2 [09:49:26] Yeah that could be [09:51:40] idea what i would look like? [09:54:10] ok it wasnt modsecurity [09:56:32] ok have to go but will be back [09:57:01] if you have any further ideas plz write it to querry [09:57:05] thx for you help [10:02:51] 03werdna * r55001 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (classes/View.php lqt.js pages/TalkpageView.php): Convert LiquidThreads JS to use jQuery. Now the reply forms slide in and out! [10:17:19] 03werdna * r55002 10/trunk/phase3/docs/export-0.4.xsd: Add DiscussionThreading info to export-0.4.xsd. TODO: Test against real data to make sure I did it right :P [10:23:47] has mediawikia.org or wikimedia.org gone down? [10:25:21] mediawikia [10:25:23] hehehehehe [10:25:33] need that domain [10:25:33] ;-) [10:26:19] mediawiki.org is up for me [10:26:44] been nothing but "no response" here [10:27:35] wtf [10:27:46] apparently wikipedia is down for me as well... [10:28:16] must be my side [10:29:46] must be my isp :( [10:39:02] 03(mod) dumpHtml.php causes PHP fatal errors (due to premature output) when read access is locked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4132 (10mr.primus) [10:42:42] 03werdna * r55003 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/View.php: Fix odd summary bug [10:43:46] 03(FIXED) Summary oddness - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19550 +comment (10agarrett) [11:09:12] 03werdna * r55004 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/pages/ThreadHistoricalRevisionView.php: Add missing message for editing summary [11:10:18] 03werdna * r55005 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/lqt.js: Fix bug on history revision pages [11:11:10] 03werdna * r55006 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/lqt.css: Remove a whole bunch of old useless cruft from the CSS file [11:14:41] 03(FIXED) New approved projects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20181 +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [11:16:01] 03ialex * r55007 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/showJobs.php: Added --group option to show number of jobs per job type [11:18:13] 03(mod) Add ace, ckb, mwl, pnb to interwiki table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20214 +comment (10Wiki.Melancholie) [11:25:10] 03(mod) Add ace, ckb, mwl, pnb to interwiki table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20214 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [11:26:08] 03siebrand * r55008 10/trunk/extensions/ (13 files in 6 dirs): [11:26:08] * Babel, CategoryTree, MagicNoNumberedHeadings, RegexFunctions and SmoothGallery: new style magic words [11:26:08] * MagicNoNumberedHeadings: add extension description in i18n file, reindent [11:26:08] * bump versions where applicable [11:37:10] 03siebrand * r55009 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: Fix formatting issue from r55008 [11:48:53] 03siebrand * r55010 10/trunk/phase3/docs/hooks.txt: Update doc for deprecated 'MagicWordMagicWords': refer to $magicWords instead of LanguageGetMagic hook. [11:52:34] ok still same problem like before(upload error) but wiser^^ [11:52:49] i tested it with an other apache server and there it works [11:53:10] <^demon> siebrand: MagicWordMagicWords is a silly hook name :P [11:53:11] so could you tell me what httpd.conf configurations are necessary [11:53:30] to upload images? [11:55:02] 03werdna * r55011 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/View.php: [11:55:02] * Remove a bunch of dead code. [11:55:02] * Wrap replies for each thread in a div, in prep for JS hiding/showing [11:55:27] *Splarka bites demon for screwing with his bugzilla advanced search even more (now I just had it remember my default of /no/ product, component, status, or resolution selected) [11:57:58] <^demon> Splarka: I was pretty sure that MediaWiki was the default component already [11:58:29] 'twasn't [11:58:47] <^demon> lemme fix that [11:58:54] the advanced search had no products, components, or resolutions selected, and had 3 statuses: New/reopened/assigned [11:59:49] 03catrope * r55012 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (9 files in 5 dirs): [11:59:49] EditToolbar: Make the link CGD replace the selection (but preserving leading and trailing whitespace), making it a full-blown link editor. Also: [11:59:49] * don't clear the text fields when the dialog is closed [11:59:49] * prevent editing an external link from clearing fields in the internal link tab or v.v. [11:59:49] * recombine CSS/JS for r54967 [11:59:50] * build AJAX status images with jQuery instead of as HTML, turned out to be faster :O [12:00:39] schumischumi: httpd shouldn't be preventing MediaWiki from creating files on the server [12:00:50] <^demon> Splarka: Ok tweaked. I had to add RESOLVED/CLOSED in order to hit the LATER/WONTFIXs. Which means I had to add the --- resolution, or you'd miss the NEW/ASSIGNED/REOPENED bugs since they have no resolution [12:01:00] <^demon> But product was removed. [12:01:05] but with the xampp lite on my desktop mediawiki works just fine [12:01:16] and this damn server asdklölsgha [12:01:21] sry [12:01:48] wuhuuuuuuu [12:01:57] changed upload path in the php.ini [12:02:00] and it works [12:02:19] funny [12:02:46] same access rights like the wiki [12:02:59] thx for help and time [12:03:00] ^demon: I still think it'd be better to search all resolutions and all statuses, IMHO [12:03:31] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/duplicates.cgi [12:05:11] RESOLVED/FIXED, Assigned, Reopened, Reopened, Fixed, reopened, reopened, fixed, invalid, worksforme, reopened, reopened, new, reopened, new, fixed, reopened, fixed, reopened, new, reopened, new, fixed [12:05:34] and the most duped wontfix has 7 [12:06:01] 03(mod) Show LATER and possibly WONTFIX bugs in default Bugzilla search? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19650 (10innocentkiller) [12:06:37] 03(FIXED) Install ReaderFeedback on strategy.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19988 (10agarrett) [12:06:59] <^demon> Splarka: I need to add VERIFIED, a few INVALID/WONTFIXs are under it. [12:08:30] <^demon> I really don't want to add FIXED. It's easy to dupe things like that (the only situation being someone on an old version or something not being live on WMF). You'd clutter searches a *lot* by adding FIXED. [12:08:58] well [12:09:22] the main problem there, is that requested features will get marked as FIXED when there is an extension available [12:10:02] and so people will continually see that there is no such feature on en.wp, and request it X_X [12:10:32] *^demon shrugs [12:10:44] and of course, with 2 months twixt scaps... [12:11:02] lots of time for dupes for already-fixed-but-not-yet-live bugs [12:11:10] <^demon> Is it really that big of a deal? [12:11:26] well, probably not, but I always include 'fixed' in my searches [12:11:28] it always pays off [12:12:04] (even on dialup, >_<) [12:12:27] <^demon> I mean it doesn't matter to me...I've got a dozen saved searches which are more useful to me than the default search. [12:12:52] <^demon> I'm just trying to find a good balance between being helpful and returning 20k bugs when you search for something. [12:12:52] heh [12:13:43] I think the ultimate goal should be to reduce dupes no? [12:14:14] *Splarka shrugs [12:15:40] <^demon> I also want to keep bugzilla as friendly to newcomers as possible. Anytime people ask where to report bugs we immediately shout bugzilla, so I don't want it to be too daunting. [12:17:53] <^demon> Splarka: I have to finish getting ready for work. We can play with this later, yes? [12:18:18] ^demon: aww, I was just needing someone to complain at [12:18:45] but I used [x] make these my default search preferences, or whatever, so it doesn't matter that much [12:19:10] ^demon: what do you think of a pre-submission irc channel or wiki page for bugzilla? [12:19:32] <^demon> Like a "List your bugs/features/etc here, and someone will vet them for Bugzilla entry?" [12:19:37] sort of a place for non-bugzilla users or new users to ask about dupes or having someone else submit for them (for all products, which wouldn't be topical here) [12:19:49] or "would this get wonfixed?" [12:20:20] <^demon> Eh, I'm not a huge fan. [12:21:01] <^demon> At least not an on-wiki list or anything. [12:22:05] 03(mod) Precision of Type:Number cannot be specified on output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20217 (10markus) [12:22:06] *Splarka shrugs [12:22:28] the main problems with bugzilla are the unundoability, and the required-public-exposed-email [12:22:43] something allowing using it, or pretending to use it, without such shortcomings, might be handyish ^_^ [12:23:06] *Splarka goes back to tvtropes so demon can go to work and complain, from there, on irc, about lacking commit access [12:23:19] 03(mod) Support parameters to control details of query printouts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16571 (10N/A) [12:23:25] 03(mod) Precision of Type:Number cannot be specified on output - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20217 (10N/A) [12:23:28] 03(mod) Support parameters to control details of query printouts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16571 (10N/A) [12:24:55] maybe we could just dump bugzilla >.> <.< [12:25:02] <^demon> Splarka: The e-mail issue is fixed in 3.4. We just need to finalize that upgrade. [12:25:12] <^demon> p858snake: And use what? Trac? [12:25:24] no idea [12:25:29] <^demon> I hate Trac. [12:25:40] 03werdna * r55013 10/trunk/extensions/GlobalBlocking/SpecialGlobalBlock.php: Bug 19760, swap expiry/reason fields to match ordering on regular block form [12:26:37] *Splarka resists the urge to filk Bugzilla ==> Blue Oyster Cult's "Godzilla" [12:26:58] <^demon> Heh [12:27:00] I swear David McCabe is on the CC list of every bug assigned to me [12:27:28] check to see if hes not the default assignee anywher? [12:27:40] 03(FIXED) Match ordering of GlobalBlocking fields to local block form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19760 +comment (10agarrett) [12:28:25] <^demon> He's still on CC for LQT [12:30:11] yeah, I put him there when I first reassinged it to me [12:30:15] but also random bugs like that one [12:31:43] 03(mod) Hide globally hidden user names on Special:Log/globalauth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18183 04CRIT->04BLOCKER (10wikipedia_emails-nachfrage) [12:31:48] werdna: history says you added him.... https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_activity.cgi?id=19760 [12:32:18] huh [12:33:28] you added him as cc on the one just before where you said but also random bugs like that one [12:33:31] <^demon> BLOCKER ZOMG [12:34:55] 03(mod) Hide globally hidden user names on Special:Log/globalauth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18183 04BLOCKER->04CRIT; +comment (10innocentkiller) [12:35:20] <^demon> General rule of thumb I've found over time. When you think it's a blocker, it's not. [12:38:03] 03(mod) Add contains_all function to abuse filter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19176 +comment (10agarrett) [12:38:06] 03(mod) Categories at the time of edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19455 +comment (10agarrett) [12:38:09] 03(mod) CodeReview "Next unresolved" et al should remember search details - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18012 +comment (10agarrett) [12:38:12] 03(mod) Change TorBlock configuration on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18540 +comment (10agarrett) [12:38:43] 03(mod) abusefilter cannot check file uploading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19565 +comment (10agarrett) [12:38:46] 03(mod) AbuseFilter log shows the contents of deleted pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18043 +comment (10agarrett) [12:38:49] 03(mod) AbuseFilter log should be easier to patrol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18066 +comment (10agarrett) [12:38:52] 03(mod) Centralauth lock/hide should trigger global autoblocks. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17929 +comment (10agarrett) [12:38:56] 03(mod) GIF scaling limit should be applied to animated GIFs only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16451 +comment (10agarrett) [12:40:04] that's better [12:46:19] 03siebrand * r55014 10/trunk/extensions/Maps/ (Maps.i18n.magic.php Maps.php): [12:46:19] * new style magic words support for Maps [12:46:19] * raise a few settings out of the init method and use ParserFirstCallInit hook [12:46:19] * reindent [12:46:19] * bump version [12:56:47] 03(mod) Hide globally hidden user names on Special:Log/globalauth - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18183 (10wikipedia_emails-nachfrage) [13:13:31] 03(NEW) "Edit with tab" don't work for category pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20238 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticForms; (gregra) [13:16:08] 03(mod) Improve hiding of usernames by looking for rv's with revealing edit summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18526 high->highest (10JSchulz_4587) [13:18:39] 03werdna * r55015 10/trunk/phase3/includes/media/GIFMetadataExtractor.php: [13:18:39] GIF metadata extraction fixes: [13:18:39] * Fast failure when inconsistencies are detected. [13:18:39] * Skip non-GCF, non-application extensions too. [13:18:39] * Fix error where seeking was not being done properly for non-netscape application extensions. [13:19:00] werdna: nice ! [13:19:08] ? [13:19:15] r55015 [13:20:52] 03(FIXED) GIF scaling limit should be applied to animated GIFs only - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16451 +comment (10agarrett) [13:21:15] 03siebrand * r55016 10/trunk/extensions/ (8 files in 4 dirs): [13:21:15] * Autoincrement, OnlineStatus, and PSINoTocNum: new style magic words [13:21:15] * Autoincrement: add extension description in i18n file, reindent [13:21:15] * bump versions where applicable [13:21:15] * add support for localisation to Translate extension (also for Maps magic words) [13:23:37] 03(mod) Support parameters to control details of query printouts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16571 (10mail) [13:43:33] Hi. [13:44:12] Anyone here know if D. L. Crocker is still coding for mediawiki? [13:45:19] I know Magnus Manske has been re-activated. Anyone been keeping contact with Crocker? [13:46:15] Don't think so. [13:46:20] I haven't seen magnus commits in a long time either. [13:46:42] well Magnus has been more playing around on the toolserver. [13:47:05] nope [13:47:13] LDCrocker shows up sometimes at the office [13:47:19] really? [13:47:28] he lives in SF? [13:47:32] Cool [13:51:07] Slightly more difficult question. Is there still original code contributed by LDC in mediawiki? [13:55:16] <^demon> cimon: some, I'm sure. [13:56:05] Completely unrelated query. Is something useful being done with the liquid threads extension? Is it ready for prime time? [13:56:40] <^demon> werdna's been working on it [13:56:59] cimon: want to have a look at the progress? [13:57:36] (I am asking partially because I am translating the interface messages at translatewiki, partially because I am thinking whether the Finnish Wikimedia Chapter to be should choose liquid threads or PHPBB [13:57:43] ) [13:58:39] <^demon> "Invalid password: password may not contain any non-alphanumeric characters" [13:58:42] <^demon> Brilliant. [13:58:57] werdna: more like I would like an answer in terms of should I recommend it to Wikimedia Finland (the chapter) as a form of communitacitng, or whether we are better off for now, going with PHPBB [13:59:14] cimon: well, it's very close to finished. [13:59:27] so if we are not in a hurry... [13:59:28] cimon: I will warn that the next few weeks will be full of interface changes [13:59:41] but it's essentially finished [14:01:25] hmm. this suggests to me that if we are not in a hurry, would be okay to suggest trying it out first before complicating things by going outside of mediawiki just to get PHPBB [14:05:27] *^demon finishes breakfast [14:05:56] <^demon> brion-breakfast: what's on the menu? [14:10:05] oatmeal, turkey bacon, banana shake [14:10:10] nothing super exciting :) [14:10:44] morning brion-breakfast [14:10:47] brion-breakfast: that sounds good to me [14:10:50] now I want a banana shake [14:11:16] <^demon> me too [14:11:24] 03(NEW) broken html tag on "Files" tab of preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20239 trivial; Normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (duke33) [14:11:37] <^demon> I had a bacon egg & cheese on french toast w/ chocolate milk :) [14:11:45] 03siebrand * r55017 10/trunk/extensions/Maps/Maps.php: [14:11:45] Revert changes from r55014 in Maps.php at request of Jeroen. He was planning a [14:11:45] release for today and this is crossing that release. Leaving Maps.i18n.magic.php [14:11:45] in place to magic word localisation can be activated at a later time, while [14:11:45] localisation can continue. [14:12:34] how do I svn co the 1.15.x category tree extension? [14:13:01] brion-breakfast: sounds like a very exotic variety of müesli. [14:13:16] seeing a ... actually seeing tons of errors after updating my extensions [14:13:31] fortunately, Lauren is going to ASDA [14:13:38] she shall bring me back some banana milkshake [14:13:41] and brownies [14:13:42] magic word if not found [14:13:51] <^demon> faceface: the path is /svnroot/branches/REL1_15/extensions/CategoryTree [14:14:06] ^demon: ty [14:14:11] <^demon> np [14:18:26] ^demon: there needs to be a mediawiki after svnroot [14:18:39] but it does the trick ;-) [14:18:59] OK, that fixes the error [14:19:11] serves me right for getting trunk extensions [14:20:00] 03siebrand * r55018 10/trunk/extensions/ (20 files in 20 dirs): Localisation updates for extension magic words from translatewiki.net [14:21:05] <^demon> faceface: indeed :p [14:21:57] category tree was the culpret [14:22:14] but commenting it out caused problems for parser functions... [14:22:44] no wait, they were both causing problems [14:22:50] 03(NEW) Use File:Wiki.png as site logo for Mirandes Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20240 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (cristovaopires) [14:23:57] so I'll have to SVN switch all extensions when the time comes? [14:24:27] <^demon> I dunno. [14:24:51] thanks anyway [14:25:34] Is there any easy way to revert an entire days worth of edits (got spambotowned on a very rarely used wiki) [14:25:40] 03(mod) Use File:Wiki.png as site logo for Mirandes Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20240 +shell (10innocentkiller) [14:26:12] 03(mod) Use File:Wiki.png as site logo for Mirandes Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20240 (10innocentkiller) [14:32:00] cimon: ei me toista reikäsalaattia tarvita :o [14:33:26] Nikerabbit: osaatko sanoa tuon edes ensimmäisellä kotimaisella? [14:34:13] Nikerabbit: I think you were in my dream last night [14:34:26] cimon: aika bugisia useimmat php:llä tehdyt foorumit :o [14:34:57] I bought some Magic: The Gathering cards (don't ask me why) and one of the packs said Nikerabbit on it. I never got to see what a Nikerabbit pack would hold, though. :( [14:35:04] Nikerabbit: Eli sie olisit tukemassa että venattaisiin nesteytyssäikeitä? [14:35:50] Khalsa: not that I know of [14:36:05] cimon: juu.. tarkotus translatewiki.netiinkin jos se osoittautuu toimivaksi [14:36:32] *cimon hanskakädettää ylävitosena Nikerabbitin kanssa. [14:36:57] Damn Finns. [14:37:16] I am totally kicking your ass as USSR. [14:37:25] Khalsa: but I'd recommend reCaptcha [14:37:26] Winter War? More like Total Finnish Ass Kicking! [14:38:13] now, was this channel about mediawiki or about which country is better [14:38:32] With svip around, you never know [14:38:58] Nikerabbit: has it ever been about anything other than the latter? [14:39:18] Nikerabbit: I also thought this channel was English. [14:39:53] are y'all finnished? [14:39:54] english mediawiki? [14:40:19] Where are all the mediawikis in other than english at? [14:40:44] brion-breakfast: I have some good racial slurs up my sleeves... [14:40:47] but yeah [14:40:55] Direct me into that channel. [14:41:46] *cimon washes his gloves from any contact smears from even brushing against an english mediawiki. [14:41:58] as far as I know this channel is about support and development for MediaWiki, and that was what I was doing :) [14:43:13] Nikerabbit: fine, no more dreams for you. :( [14:44:07] Emufarmers: I was busy!!! [14:45:07] *Emufarmers goes and has dreams about Splarka making templates instead ^__^; [14:46:08] fuk [14:46:37] does someone have 1.15 branch to fix https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20239 [14:53:14] 03werdna * r55019 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (5 files in 3 dirs): [14:53:14] LiquidThreads notification fixes: [14:53:14] * Add an option to watch threads contributed to. [14:53:14] * Fix notification code for watched threads -- check if the topmost thread is watched, not if the newly created one is watched (it won't be). [14:53:41] 03(FIXED) Alert the user if he receive a reply anywhere in the discussion pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19388 +comment (10agarrett) [14:55:07] Nikerabbit: I think I may be able to chase down the bug that caused all the trouble yesterday, since some tweaks I made has made it go away., [14:55:43] faceface: thanks :-\ [15:03:12] can i cause another page to be included into the current page ? [15:04:22] <^demon> !templates [15:04:22] --mwbot-- For more information about templates, see . See also: !templateproblems [15:04:34] i know how to use templates but those are for other things [15:04:50] i want to include "another page" in the current one [15:04:53] not a template [15:05:13] <^demon> you can include pages too by prefixing it with : [15:05:21] hm cool thanks [15:05:23] <^demon> like putting {{:SomePage}} [15:05:31] yea that's great [15:12:01] cimon: whoo? [15:15:44] Nikerabbit: need to isolate which tweak it was that tamed it. [15:16:16] I did a bunch of them, and will be unoing the tweaks one by one, to find out which one was the vexatious oune.' [15:16:24] *undoing [15:40:04] 03jeroendedauw * r55020 10/trunk/extensions/Maps/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Changes for 0.3. [15:40:33] 03jeroendedauw * r55021 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMaps/SemanticMaps.php: Changes for 0.3. [15:42:01] 03nikerabbit * r55022 10/trunk/phase3/includes/StubObject.php: (bug 20090) BCP 47 issues [15:42:39] d [15:50:57] 03(NEW) SMW_QP_JSONlink.php throwing errors and not creating valid JSON - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20241 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (neiladavies) [16:05:10] 03(mod) SMW_QP_JSONlink.php throwing errors and not creating valid JSON - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20241 (10markus) [16:06:25] 03werdna * r55023 10/trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): [16:06:25] Customise display of thread search result titles. [16:06:25] * Show the subject, not the title. [16:06:25] * Link to the post in context, not by itself. [16:07:33] 03(NEW) Installer demands DB credentials for SQLite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20242 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Installation; (maxsem.wiki) [16:14:29] 03(NEW) DPL failing on addfirstcategorydate=true - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20243 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: DynamicPageList; (brian.mcneil) [16:15:03] 03(mod) Support parameters to control details of query printouts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16571 (10markus) [16:16:02] 03brion * r55024 10/trunk/extensions/LocalisationUpdate/tests/tokenTest.php: [16:16:02] Blug... commit current state; trying to find consistency in what's going on ;) [16:16:02] Core language files have a single $messages array... [16:16:02] Extension files have a $messages meta-array which contains messages for all languages, defined multiple times. [16:16:04] The '$messages' extraction that's used on core message files is not being applied to extensions I think, otherwise we'd only get the first one. [16:16:07] However, we've still got to find a clean way to deal with the 'require's and 'if's and such that the code barfs on and get the code cleaned up. Blecch [16:17:05] brion: Did you just commit LU in a broken state? I'm testing it on prototype sandbox right now [16:17:49] RoanKattouw: no i just committed an update to the tester of the parsing :) [16:18:04] RoanKattouw: i committed a couple tweaks to ConfEditor yesterday which fix problems i noticed [16:18:04] Aah OK [16:18:07] 03(mod) Installer demands DB credentials for SQLite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20242 (10brion) [16:18:18] ConfEditor's parsing is *really* slow though :( [16:18:32] Aye it is [16:18:35] the tokenization with php's tokenizer is really fast; it seems to be the postprocessing [16:18:42] do we have an idea what the bottleneck is? [16:18:49] Ask Tim, he wrote it :) [16:20:24] anyone here working on downloading limits (a'la http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/index.php?curid=68321#Please_do_not_use_a_web_crawler) [16:20:46] Working on it? [16:24:17] I'm downloading a few thousand wikipedia pages for playonlinux.org descriptions, and the above page sort of says that's uncool [16:24:42] 03(mod) Installer demands DB credentials for SQLite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20242 (10brion) [16:24:53] just wondering if I'm over the limit .. I'm making about 1 request/0.7secs, but to different language versions of wikipedia [16:25:20] hello everyone =D [16:25:26] yo. [16:25:54] hey [16:25:55] kozuscek: we probably won't notice that :) [16:26:15] kozuscek: but to behave better, use Accept-Encoding: gzip all the time [16:26:21] and set your User-Agent [16:26:22] and such [16:26:29] quick question: in my new mediaWiki installation, a new account I just opened as a regular user, can't see the "Edit" links for the articles... [16:26:30] ideas? [16:28:04] 03(NEW) Installer does not validate SQLite database directory for stable path - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20244 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Installation; (brion) [16:28:30] 03(mod) Need to tweak thread search results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20002 (10agarrett) [16:29:15] domas, default wget requests [16:29:21] anybody know what the deal is with adding extra tables to update on rename? [16:29:37] werdna: ? [16:29:41] domas, thx anyway [16:29:55] kozuscek: you're prolly ok yeah [16:29:58] domas: from an extension [16:30:09] wget might be blocked by default so try setting yourself a user-agent header :) [16:30:29] werdna: erm on rename means what? [16:30:40] brion: when a user is renamed [16:30:53] ah [16:31:00] I can't find any hooks that would help, but surely somebody's had to do this before [16:31:03] you mean having more of the user-text fields updated in the batch jobs? [16:31:07] well, I can't find any sensible hooks [16:31:10] right [16:31:45] probably need to add some hooks to renameuser then :) [16:31:50] thread and thread_revision tables have user and user_text fields, which need to be updated [16:32:13] Yeah, just thought somebody might know of some other way that I'm supposed to do it [16:32:15] in my ideal world though we should start just fetching the current name out of joining on user table so we don't have to worry about it [16:32:22] Is there a setting so a user can see the "Edit" link? [16:32:32] we still need to store user_text for anonymous users [16:33:51] werdna: yeah but they conveniently don't get renamed :) [16:34:03] mmm [16:39:24] 03brion * r55025 10/trunk/extensions/LocalisationUpdate/tests/tokenTest.php: Use the same cleanup/extraction functions used in the main class for the tests. That code was confusing :D [16:46:59] is there any reason why one would use "for ( $row = $dbr->fetchObject( $res ); $row; $row = $dbr->fetchObject( $res ) ) {" instead of "while ($row = $dbr->fetchObject( $res ) ) {" ? [16:49:55] hi [16:51:15] I did not found by googling, so I try here :) I'dd like to do something like but for a file located in /extensions. I do not find which variable may replace stylepath… [16:51:34] (basically, getting the root url of the app) [16:59:25] 03(mod) Installer does not validate SQLite database directory for stable path - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20244 +comment (10innocentkiller) [17:00:46] 03(mod) Installer demands DB credentials for SQLite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20242 +comment (10innocentkiller) [17:01:40] 03(mod) Installer does not validate SQLite database directory for stable path - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20244 (10brion) [17:05:59] hello. how does the 'tests' column in code review work ? [17:06:09] 03siebrand * r55026 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/SpecialManageGroups.php: makeTitle is needed here [17:07:35] 03siebrand * r55027 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/SpecialManageGroups.php: Fix incorrect variable name [17:08:22] ThomasV: a test runner somewhere runs its tests, then posts them up to the server via mediawiki API [17:08:33] currently implemented is a client for ParserTests [17:09:30] what is it testing ? is it not testing extension code ? [17:11:33] brion: btw, are we far from a code update ? [17:11:34] Can someone tell me why one wiki "cross" posts from another wiki even if they are not install on the same domain or anything? [17:11:49] ThomasV: parser tests [17:11:57] cross posts? [17:12:14] ThomasV: getting towards there :) [17:12:16] bit by bit [17:12:24] refering to transwiki? or interwiki links? or something else? [17:12:59] laura.bazinga.co.uk/wiki [17:13:02] Go look at that [17:13:09] It mentions swe wiki [17:13:24] Which is located at an entirely different place, and different database etc [17:13:59] Whenver somebody installs a wiki they can call it whatever they like [17:14:25] TehTDK: it is the name of the wiki [17:14:30] Yes [17:14:42] But tahts not the name I picked on istall [17:14:47] *install [17:14:55] and the mainpage looks wrong [17:15:14] http://laura.bazinga.co.uk/wiki/Index.php/Main_Page [17:15:16] if you typed during install like you type in the chat window, that can happen [17:15:25] I didn't [17:15:46] 03werdna * r55028 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (lqt.css pages/TalkpageView.php): [17:15:46] LiquidThreads interface stuff. [17:15:46] * Killed even more dead code. [17:15:46] * Killed the [show deleted threads] thing that is now useless. [17:15:46] * Moved the stuff at the top into a single talkpage interaction area [17:15:50] sounds like a broken short-url for it looking wrong [17:17:59] TehTDK: check $wgSitename your LocalSettings.php [17:18:35] $wgSitename = "Laura's Wiki Dump Thing!"; [17:20:14] I got another wiki installed with the SWEWiki name [17:20:22] but that is on an entirely different hosting [17:20:26] and different domain [17:21:08] http://swe.swrw.net/wiki/Main_Page [17:21:12] That one works [17:21:21] I don't know why the other one doeesn't [17:22:08] 03yaron * r55029 10/trunk/extensions/ReplaceText/ReplaceTextJob.php: Simplified addition [17:22:34] brion: we could get rid of the magic word requires if needed? [17:23:08] if it is a problem [17:24:25] 03(NEW) LiquidThreads preview needs to be fixed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20245 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (agarrett) [17:24:39] hello [17:24:58] 03(mod) LiquidThreads preview needs to be fixed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20245 normal->highest (10agarrett) [17:25:01] is there a plugin that checks for signatures when adding a comment to a Talk page? [17:28:38] 03yaron * r55030 10/trunk/extensions/ReplaceText/SpecialReplaceText.php: Added inputs for filtering by category and prefix [17:29:57] 03yaron * r55031 10/trunk/extensions/ReplaceText/ReplaceText.i18n.php: New messages for category and prefix filtering [17:33:45] http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2009/08/localisationupdate-update.html YIHAAA [17:34:39] 03yaron * r55032 10/trunk/extensions/ReplaceText/ (README ReplaceText.php): New version: 0.7 [17:43:21] ? [17:43:29] ! [17:43:39] ^_^ [17:43:41] O_> [17:43:54] :_P [17:45:17] :-! [17:45:27] geiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [17:45:54] ???????????????? [17:46:19] nomizw pws de mou dinei kaneis shmasia.......... [17:46:24] :'( [17:46:44] :'(:'(:'( [17:48:35] d;oh [17:48:40] I should have answered them [17:48:48] (in pm of course) [17:52:04] lewisrj: There are bots that auto-sign unsigned edits [17:52:17] i see [17:52:49] any reason it's a bot and not a plugin? [17:53:33] 03(mod) Special:WantedCategories contents does not get updated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19969 (10malafaya) [17:55:45] Hi, do I destroy any database relations be removing entries from user_groups? [17:56:16] No [18:01:52] As far as I can see on the Mediawiki-database-schema.png I don't.. [18:01:52] But you shouldn't need to, use Special:Userrights to remove users from groups [18:01:52] 03(mod) Special:WantedCategories refresh date updates but contents does not get updated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19969 summary (10malafaya) [18:01:52] RoanKattouw, but making an SQL script for selecting the correct users is a lot easier :-). [18:01:52] Hmm. Release notes probably shouldn't have quite the same stuff about XHTML in Caveats now that we've switched to HTML5 (though it might mention $wgWellFormedXml there) [18:01:52] RoanKattouw, would it be possible for me then, since I use LDAP, to delete alle references to the default wiki groups as sysop, user and such, replacing them with my LDAP groups and giving the correct group permissions? [18:01:52] 03dale * r55033 10/trunk/extensions/OggHandler/ (OggHandler.i18n.php OggHandler_body.php): improve oggHandler output for javascript disabled views [18:01:52] Implying to do something like this unset($wgGroupPermissions['sysop']); in LocalSettings.php [18:01:52] 03dale * r55034 10/trunk/phase3/includes/HttpFunctions.php: * added curl option support for get requests [18:02:39] nicholas_: Sure [18:02:50] Nice. [18:03:04] I love the way mediawiki is dynamic like this.. [18:03:21] Thanks to all you wonderful developers ;-) [18:03:29] 03dale * r55035 10/trunk/phase3/includes/HttpFunctions.php: http:get was clearing opts array (fixed) [18:13:34] I'm transcluding a page from another wiki, but when I go back to the page that is transcluding it, it doesn't update, ever after I purge both pages. [18:16:05] is it possible to make mediawiki display usernames with initial lowercase? [18:16:21] It seems as if it always converts it to uppercase. [18:16:39] nicholas_: No need to unset(), there's no harm in sysops having rights if nobody's a sysop [18:17:04] nicholas_: $wgCapitalLinks = false; allows initial lowercase for *all* pages including user pages (and hence user names) [18:17:18] Nice. Thanks, was what I was looking for. [18:17:28] At least I *think* that allows initial lowercase usernames [18:27:06] hi room! [18:30:46] Looking for a way to see my users email address in the DB, should I just change the Type and have TEXT instead of TINYBLOB? [18:42:14] hi RoanKattouw [18:42:29] what's the latest stable revision? prefereneces seem to be broken in the revision that i'm running [18:43:29] Hi Nike [18:43:35] chuck: 1.15.1, see topic [18:44:02] RoanKattouw: SVN revision [18:44:24] there isnt really a stable svn revision [18:44:37] chuck: you want stable branch :o [18:44:43] Reedy: since when :S [18:44:54] By the whole idea of it [18:44:58] Its used for development [18:45:23] In theory, something where all the prior revisions have been code reviewed would be ok.. If you took into accounts any reverts to them [18:45:28] Reedy: Wikimedia's wikis used to run on a certain stable trunk revision as far as I know, until they moved it over to a branch [18:45:54] The branch is so people can tell whats where etc.. [18:46:06] It was run on a mix and match of revisions, as things were scapped out to the site [18:47:21] <^demon> wmf-deployment is based on r52088, plus a whole lot of merges. [18:49:26] ^demon: when will you fix all the issues? :) [18:49:59] <^demon> There are no issues. [18:50:30] there is [18:50:35] *^demon wonders why we bother with ParserFirstCallInit compat crap when we branch extensions anyway. [18:50:54] 03siebrand * r55036 10/trunk/extensions/ReplaceText/ (ReplaceText.i18n.php SpecialReplaceText.php): [18:50:54] Follow-up on r55030 and r55031: [18:50:54] * move colons to messages instead of hard coded in the special page [18:50:54] * tweak messages [18:50:57] ^demon: because everyone just copy-pastes it [18:51:29] *^demon is tempted to go through trunk and remove it [18:51:39] RoanKattouw: I don't think $wgCapitalLinks affects usernames: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual_talk:$wgCapitalLinks [18:51:47] <^demon> it doesn't. [18:51:58] 03tomasz * r55037 10/branches/FundraiserPortal-multi/: branching for multi select [18:52:18] <^demon> Emufarmers_: usernames are force-capped by the user class, regardless of the setting. [18:53:30] ^demon: "I don't think" means "this is the way it is, but I'm going to try to sound humble" :p [18:53:47] <^demon> :p [18:54:37] PHP Notice: Undefined variable: timeout in /var/www/w/includes/HttpFunctions.php on line 295 [18:54:42] <^demon> Emufarmers_: With my patch on 13750 (brion review plz, you promised :) this changes and allows lc usernames. [18:55:45] mdale: ^^ [18:56:18] 7 patches? That must have been one of your first projects. :) [18:56:34] opps [18:56:59] 03dale * r55038 10/trunk/phase3/includes/HttpFunctions.php: fixed variable name [18:57:05] <^demon> Emufarmers_: yeah long before I had commit access [18:57:23] 03tomasz * r55039 10/branches/FundraiserPortal-multi/ (DonateButton.php FundraiserPortal.php rebuildButtons.php): modifying portal to allow for multiple buttons running at the same time. adding statis js generation [18:57:46] mdale: thanks [18:57:52] Now that you're a BZ admin you can delete all that embarrassing stuff. :D [18:58:30] <^demon> hmmm, can I delete attachments? [18:58:35] *^demon plays with BZ [18:58:59] o: don't go doin' anything to the Jimbo spinner! [19:00:24] <^demon> ah, yes I can! [19:00:39] <^demon> Helpful to know. [19:01:18] TimStarling: is there a reason for the ?> at the end of http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/DumpHTML/dumpHTML.inc?view=markup ? Just had somebody complaining about "cannot modify header information" errors [19:05:05] 03(mod) Error on editing pages with Opera Mini - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20022 summary; +comment (10innocentkiller) [19:06:31] 03yaron * r55040 10/tags/extensions/ReplaceText/REL_0_7/: Tag for version 0.7 [19:10:14] 03(mod) Add ace, ckb, mwl, pnb to interwiki table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20214 normal->major; normal->high; +comment (10siebrand) [19:10:38] 03siebrand * r55041 10/trunk/extensions/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [19:10:38] * OggHandler: separate magic words from messages [19:10:38] * add localisation support for OggHandler magic to Translate [19:16:30] 03(mod) Missing interwiki prefixes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19838 +comment (10innocentkiller) [19:21:08] 03dale * r55042 10/trunk/extensions/WikiAtHome/WikiAtHome.php: * updated encode settings with bufDelay [19:22:37] 03dale * r55043 10/trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/libAddMedia/mvFirefogg.js: * bumped firefogg version check [19:25:37] 03huji * r55044 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesFa.php: Localisation updates: Adding Perisna translations for the two newly added magic words (nse, img_crop) [19:26:38] 03(ASSIGNED) Add ace, ckb, mwl, pnb to interwiki table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20214 +comment (10rhalsell) [19:28:22] Is there a way to clear the transcache? [19:28:32] manually and easily? [19:29:29] what is transcache [19:29:46] 03(mod) Disable Gadget wherever user css/js is disabled, or at least aim for consistency - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18186 +comment (10heldergeovane) [19:32:07] 03werdna * r55045 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (lqt.css lqt.js): Fix quote button to work with jQuery modifications [19:33:22] Hi; my wiki just got hit hard by spammers and I'm trying to figure out how to rollback the edits. Someone told me that it is possible to mark a user/ip as a bot and remove or roll back all of their changes ,but I can't seem to figure out how. [19:33:26] How might I do this? [19:35:22] ahh, this site always gives me some chuckles [19:35:24] http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=558902&page=2 [19:35:38] "The terribly sad thing about this is the honest hard working White Europeans that got literally "jewed" out of their life savings, retirement fund, etc." [19:36:37] "holohoax"? never even heard that one before [19:42:04] 03(mod) DismissableSiteNotice relies on JavaScript to render site notice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9209 +accessibility; +comment (10jidanni) [19:42:16] AaronSchulz: I like the first response [19:42:37] "Well, yes, the jews are obviously out to take over the world, but..." [19:42:47] Aaron|notebook, sorry [19:43:20] I love the guys ethic vs religious Jew treatment distinction [19:43:56] I guess it makes sense in his mind [19:43:59] Because there are so many people who convert to Judaism [19:45:10] "If someone says they are Jewish and they look and are 100% white, don't be anti-Semitic towards them for they are not a Semi-parasite" [19:45:43] Emufarmers_: and the response "Thank you very much for this clarification. " [19:46:23] The FascistWolf guy seems confused; evidently the Jews he's met have all been white, for some reason [19:47:41] Aaron|notebook: OMG you read white supremacist forums for fun? [19:47:52] Sure is an inventive way to kill time [19:52:04] http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=629896 [19:52:17] RoanKattouw: "There are way too many Jews in U.S. I travel to Germany a lot, and it's not getting any better there. Sigh. " [19:53:05] In that first thread, they can't seem to make up their minds about whether Jews are white or not :| [19:53:23] Wheres brion gone? [19:53:58] I wonder how many members that site has [19:54:22] Aaron|notebook: you taking a Holocaust or antisemetism class? [19:54:48] last one was back in high school, but it's an interesting topic [19:55:10] I want to read up on the cause of anti-Jew conspiracies [19:55:54] I mean 9/11? wtf? [19:56:55] Emufarmers_: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1028069.html [19:57:02] 'Conspiracy theory faults Jews for Lehman Brothers' collapse ' [19:58:26] :o [20:09:27] 03jeroendedauw * r55046 10/trunk/extensions/Maps/Maps.php: Changes for 0.3 [20:15:49] 03jeroendedauw * r55047 10/tags/extensions/Maps/ (101 files in 11 dirs): Tag for 0.3 [20:26:00] 03jeroendedauw * r55048 10/tags/extensions/Maps/ (18 files in 4 dirs): Deleted mistake [20:28:03] 'm wondering if someone can point me in the right direction -- I have an custom extension which extends AuthPlugin (performing an XML RPC request) which works. The problem is that it appears a request to the XML RPC server is done for every resource (http) request hit e.g. Main_Page + Monobook.css + Print.css + Common.css + two other hits (css and js)). [20:28:08] Is there a way to publicly present those CSS resources such that they don't have to hit the AuthPlugin each time they're requested? I've looked at Extension:GlobalCssJs but I'm not sure that's what I need/want... thanks. [20:28:43] In theory you should be caching the XMLRPC result instead [20:28:54] or setting up a local session instead of relying on re-authenticating for every page view [20:31:18] 03jeroendedauw * r55049 10/tags/extensions/Maps/ (COPYING YahooMaps/): Deleted mistake [20:32:06] 03jeroendedauw * r55051 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMaps/ (INSTALL RELEASE-NOTES): Final changes for 0.3 [20:35:01] 03jeroendedauw * r55052 10/tags/extensions/Maps/REL_0_3/ (102 files in 11 dirs): Tag for 0.3 [20:35:10] werdna: the session information is stored on the XML RPC server... Coping it locally and expiring it myself may be an option, but it may be a 'policy' option with the people who run the XML RPC server. [20:35:37] sorry, 'policy problem' [20:38:44] 03jeroendedauw * r55053 10/tags/extensions/SemanticMaps/REL_0_3/ (20 files in 5 dirs): Tag for version 0.3 [20:41:12] 03conrad * r55054 10/trunk/extensions/Transliterator/Transliterator.php: push maps into memcache [20:45:40] 03tomasz * r55055 10/branches/FundraiserPortal-multi/DonateButton.php: Migrating all styles and js blobs to strings per brion [20:57:01] 03conrad * r55056 10/trunk/extensions/Transliterator/Transliterator.php: Minor code adjustments [21:01:56] 03(NEW) Install Extension:Transliterator on en.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20246 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (conrad.irwin) [21:12:24] 03siebrand * r55058 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (24 files): Localisation updates for core messages from translatewiki.net (2009-08-14 21:04 UTC) [21:19:21] Hi, anyone around that is using the BugSquish Extension? [21:20:08] I get the following error from it after enabling it: [21:20:10] [Fri Aug 14 13:47:08 2009] [error] [client 10.5.1.200] PHP Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_VARIABLE in /srv/www/htdocs/mediawiki/extensions/BugSquish.php on line 40, referer: http://wiki/mediawiki/index.php5?title=Bugzilla_BugSquish_Integration&action=edit&redlink=1 [21:20:10] [Fri Aug 14 13:47:45 2009] [error] [client 10.5.1.200] PHP Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_VARIABLE in /srv/www/htdocs/mediawiki/extensions/BugSquish.php on line 40 [21:20:45] if anyone has a clue what is wrong with the code for that extension, I'd be willing to test a patch for it. [21:22:23] 04(REOPENED) Flood flag for es.wikibooks - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19923 +comment (10dferg-wiki) [21:24:55] 03siebrand * r55059 10/trunk/extensions/BoardVote/OBSOLETE: BoardVote obsoleted by SecurePoll [21:25:52] greeneg_: that extension does not appear to live in the MediaWiki svn. Where is the code? [21:27:55] 03siebrand * r55060 10/trunk/extensions/ (193 files in 180 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-08-14 21:04 UTC) [21:28:03] http://www.kennel17.co.uk/testwiki/BugSquish [21:31:16] greeneg_: no idea. Line 40 is "function wfBugSquish_ParserAfterStrip(&$parser, &$text, &$strip_state) { [21:31:16] " [21:31:24] Nothing wrong with that at first sight. [21:31:50] greeneg_: email the author, I'd say. [21:35:58] 03tomasz * r55061 10/branches/FundraiserPortal-multi/DonateButton.php: switching to using json encoding for button css/js. fixing name misspelling for Tourmaline [21:38:52] make sure you copied the code correctly and dont have any stray newlines [21:47:35] 03werdna * r55062 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (classes/View.php lqt.css): Fix toolbar, timestamp and signature to match new design [21:50:32] 03werdna * r55063 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/icons/ (edit.png link.png): Commit missing icons [21:57:59] 03catrope * r55064 10/trunk/phase3/skins/common/mwsuggest.js: Fix arrow throttling feature in mwsuggest which was broken in two entirely different but equally interesting ways. [22:08:28] after correcting a couple of line errors, it claims that line 37 is the culprit: [22:08:34] $wgHooks['ParserAfterStrip'][] = "wfBugSquish_ParserAfterStrip"; [22:10:00] the error message implies a missing semi-colon on the line before [22:10:58] 03werdna * r55065 10/trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: Add an id to the cancel link [22:11:28] cirwin: the line before is nothing more than a comment: // Application Hooks [22:11:40] what's the previous line of code? [22:11:51] 03werdna * r55066 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (lqt.css lqt.js pages/TalkpageView.php): Make the cancel button delete edit forms [22:12:14] function wfBugSquish() { [22:12:14] global $wgHooks; [22:12:14]   [22:12:14] // Application hooks [22:12:15] $wgHooks['ParserAfterStrip'][] = "wfBugSquish_ParserAfterStrip"; [22:12:17] } [22:12:32] ok, no idea then, sorry [22:12:52] cirwin: now you see why I'm confused :P [22:13:06] this case makes zero sense [22:14:30] ah [22:14:36] the closing quote [22:14:43] is not the same as the opening quote [22:15:13] or maybe it's just a non-monospace font juxtaposing the square brackets [22:15:28] no, wrong again [22:15:29] sorry [22:15:53] this confuses the hell out of me.... [22:19:16] it's still saying that the parser finds an unexpected T_VARIABLE at that line :( [22:22:58] 03werdna * r55067 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/lqt.css: Remove clear [22:25:21] 03tomasz * r55068 10/branches/FundraiserPortal-multi/ (DonateButton.php FundraiserPortal.php rebuildButtons.php): minor refactoring to clean up names. updated to correct hook for portal display [22:26:58] 03werdna * r55069 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/Thread.php: Error handling [22:28:34] 03werdna * r55070 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/DeletionController.php: Fix deletion [22:30:03] werdna: I think it's imperative that "Reply" be where [edit] is currently. [22:33:33] Annemarie: You mean the top-right section edit link? [22:33:54] werdna: Yes. [22:34:11] hmm, clever idea [22:34:15] Nobody ever wants to summarize a thread. But they do want to reply. And it's muscle memory, etc. [22:34:21] yeah [22:34:29] I'm gonna throw all that crap in a menu [22:34:49] [actions] [reply] [22:34:52] Or something. [22:34:56] Needs a lot more fiddling. :-) [22:34:58] right, that's the plan :) [22:36:31] Annemarie: translated to and from Japanese 20 times, that ends up as Urgent need "to edit your answers, please search." [22:36:36] says http://translationparty.com/ [22:37:53] Does it only do Japanese? [22:37:54] 03tomasz * r55071 10/branches/FundraiserPortal-multi/FundraiserPortal.php: more refactoring. cleaner names [22:37:58] Huh. [22:38:00] I think so [22:38:03] It would be fun to have it do a language I actually know. [22:38:06] Which means . . . Hebrew. [22:38:08] Simetrical: what do *you* think of the new design? [22:39:34] If you're talking about LQT, I didn't know there was one. [22:39:45] What's the test wiki for that again? [22:40:15] http://wiki.werdn.us/test/view/Talk:Main_Page [22:40:22] But I don't think the new design has been implemented yet? [22:42:34] Well, that link is way better than before. [22:42:56] It still takes up too much space, though. Collapse everything to one line if it's short enough, and cut the padding a bit. [22:43:22] Oh, bleh, are you going with icons instead of text for actions? Icons are evil. [22:43:35] I can't even tell what the first one is without hovering over it. [22:43:39] *cirwin agrees kill the icons [22:43:57] From the tooltip, I infer that it's meant to be the links of a chain. [22:44:16] But even if I could tell that without being told, which I didn't, I really doubt I'd have figured out it meant "link to this". [22:44:31] that icon only works for english [22:44:37] which defies the purpose of icons [22:44:40] That's true too, since you point it out. [22:44:50] but then, it *is* the convention. sadly. [22:44:59] The pencil I can figure out means "edit", probably, but I bet other people wouldn't guess that. And it's not significantly smaller than the word "edit". [22:45:01] Hah, links. [22:45:06] Which is what we use in, you know, the whole rest of the interface. [22:45:20] I'd have never guessed the little arrow meant "reply" except by process of elimination. [22:45:39] This is the mockup I'm working from http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Design-LiquidThreads-1.png [22:45:42] Overall, icons are a bad idea IMO. Ditch them. Unless the usability people made you do it. [22:45:58] That "reply" icon is standard across mail applictions, forums, everything [22:46:06] Gmail uses the word "Reply". [22:46:27] with that icon :P [22:46:27] Every forum I can think of does too. Sometimes it has a pretty icon, but generally also with the word "reply" somewhere on it. [22:46:30] Hmm, hovering over the timestamp is a bit evil. [22:46:45] Well, yes, it does have an arrow-y icon. [22:46:53] But it has the word as well. [22:46:54] Are things like "Started by" configurable? [22:46:59] I think that column should go. [22:47:10] I don't know why anyone things icons are a good idea, unless they're ridiculously standard, like "Play" for videos. [22:47:15] thinks [22:47:30] It came from the usability folks, but I'm sure they can be reasoned with ;) [22:47:33] They're easier to localize, but that's not a big deal for us. [22:47:51] The menu is broken at the moment, too [22:48:05] Are the usability people in the habit of publishing their data in detail, or do they just sort of mandate random things and everyone's expected to follow what they say without being told why in any detail? [22:48:26] I've only seen really, really cursory summaries of studies. [22:48:31] It's not based on data, so far. [22:48:38] *Simetrical looks at usability.wikimedia.org [22:48:43] Well, the one study I saw was based on like four people in San Francisco. [22:48:48] I just spoke to Trevor, who offered to do a mockup, in #wikipedia_usability [22:49:03] Of course, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to come up with a list of 1,000 ways the interface can be improved. [22:49:16] Being based on four people is fine. [22:49:27] I volunteered at the Wikipedia NIH thing. It's pretty trivial to see how people don't edit. [22:49:33] If you do usability studies on thirty people you see them make the exact same mistakes thirty times. It's a waste of time. [22:50:10] Depends how random the sample is. :P [22:50:12] What I'm saying is if there's actual data that people do better with icons than textual descriptions, when there's no super-duper-totally standard icon for the activity in question, then okay, I'll live with it. [22:50:24] Agreed. Text > icons [22:50:44] The arrow and pencil both mean reply. [22:51:03] no they don't [22:51:03] Annemarie, not really. I think the idea is that usually, applications are so horrifyingly unusable that the data you get from four people is such that you have to redo the whole interface already. [22:51:17] Then you want to do another study on four or five people. [22:51:22] And refine further. [22:51:23] And so on. [22:51:32] Repeated small studies instead of a few big ones. [22:51:44] If you got four people from Slashdot or you got four people from McDonald's, you're gonna get wildly different answers. [22:51:48] Since you find so many things that clearly need improvement from even small studies. [22:52:08] werdna: I'm saying that you could easily interpret the pencil to mean "write a reply" the arrow to mean "write a reply." [22:52:10] If they had never edited Wikipedia before, you'd probably see enough horrible flaws from either group to keep you busy for a while. :) [22:52:26] Annemarie: yes, fair enough [22:52:38] I'll deal with it next week though :P [22:52:50] Seriously. It's like 12 there, isn't it? :P [22:53:17] And, everybody uses their mouse on the right side. Gotta make the reply button right-most, in my opinion. [22:53:20] I'll try to draft coherent notes over the weekend. [22:53:36] I think alternating colors for threads would be cool. [23:23:29] 03tomasz * r55072 10/branches/FundraiserPortal-multi/DonateButton.php: three weeks not four [23:23:38] 03(NEW) four languages do not show up in the Sitematrix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20247 minor; Normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; (Gerard.meijssen) [23:26:19] 03siebrand * r55073 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/EditToolbar.i18n.php: Replace "File:" by "{{ns:file}}" in 'edittoolbar-tool-gallery-example' and 'edittoolbar-help-content-file-syntax' [23:31:50] 03tomasz * r55074 10/branches/FundraiserPortal-multi/DonateButton.php: removing unnecessary marks [23:40:44] Hi! [23:41:36] hi [23:41:54] My "MediaWiki:Booksources" point's at "Book sources". Is that "MediaWiki:Book sources"? I put my stuff there, but the default stuff is still there!? [23:42:28] MikaelLindmark: Special:Allmessages should list the content and names of them all [23:43:17] MediaWiki:Booksources contains the name of the booksources page [23:43:53] what are you trying to change? [23:44:30] Prodego:Yes, but in what namespace? MediaWiki. I want to add/change some search-sites for books. [23:46:10] Now I have four default links. [23:46:11] http://www.ndwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ABookSources&isbn=12345678 [23:47:42] MikaelLindmark: the links are changed by editing the localsettings file, not a mediawiki message [23:49:10] Prodego:ah. Is it possible to have it as a wikipage? [23:49:18] actually, hold on, let me read [23:49:42] you can definitely edit languages.php to do it [23:49:48] 03(mod) Special:WantedCategories refresh date updates but contents does not get updated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19969 minor->normal; +shell (10malafaya) [23:49:48] but I suspect there is a better way [23:52:46] MikaelLindmark: ok, so there are a few ways to do this [23:53:07] all of them involve changing language files, as far as I can tell [23:53:11] Simetrical: poke [23:53:52] Prodego:Ok. I had a peek in "languages/messages/MessagesEn.php" [23:54:18] its booksourceList or something [23:54:29] booksourcesList maybe [23:55:09] # Book sources [23:55:19] 'booksources' => 'Book sources', [23:56:06] But what namespace? MediaWiki? [23:56:08] you would think there would be an easy way to do this [23:56:12] I think that means this [23:56:41] Mediawiki:Booksources (controlling the title of the ISBN page) defaults to 'Book sources' [23:57:02] I'm not exactly an expert :) [23:58:10] Yes. I have created that page, but no luck. (http://www.ndwiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Book_sources) [23:58:26] Talk about random shit that should be in an extension...