[00:00:04] hello everyone! I have a question about text preloading - is it possible to preload text into description of Special:Upload? [00:00:35] brion: I can imagine... The sweet magic is overwhelming ;) [00:00:55] nom nom :D [00:01:05] brion: btw, threaded cache rebuilds rock [00:01:19] we at least got the update performance cleaned up [00:01:22] ? [00:01:43] rebuildLocalisationCache --threads=n [00:02:00] put .php in there somewhere.. [00:02:03] is there a way to make sure part of a template gets parsed last? [00:02:05] ah on trunk [00:02:06] nom nom [00:02:29] brion: geez, you guys are using old software? :) [00:02:41] haha [00:03:08] oh, the news is: nearly 35k new translations during the translatewiki.net Translation Rally. [00:03:27] *^demon|away will be sure to avoid that commit e-mail [00:03:32] (in 8 days - that's about 20-25k more than usual) [00:06:12] <^demon> Only 62 files have remained unchanged between 1.15.1 and current head :p [00:06:44] sweet [00:06:54] mdale: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/55034#c3604 :D [00:06:57] siebrand: spiffy [00:07:29] aww, c'mmon, don't tell me that MediaWiki can't preload text for file uploads... [00:07:47] <^demon> siebrand: Actually false, ignore me. But still it's a lot changed :p [00:10:24] ^demon: stylize.php core :) [00:10:42] im having a problem with an extention and templates, where the tag that triggers the extention is getting parsed before the template values are getting replaced... is there a way to fix that? [00:10:45] gotcha, it's OnImageUpload; sorry for bothering... [00:19:33] 03demon * r55292 10/branches/new-installer/phase3/includes/installer/Installer.php: Revert r55144, re-add wgDeletedDirectory. [00:20:29] 03siebrand * r55293 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (80 files): Localisation updates for core messages from translatewiki.net (2009-08-18 23:54 UTC) [00:25:55] 03(mod) Install FormMailer and SimpleForms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20292 major->04CRIT; normal->highest; +comment (10pbeaudette) [00:27:15] 03brion * r55294 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/rebuildLocalisationCache.php: [00:27:15] Multithreaded rebuild currently relies on PHP's pcntl extension, which is not present by default and unsupported on Windows. [00:27:15] Rather than just spitting out a fatal error, let's gracefully fall back to single threading and tell the user why. [00:27:15] (Also now actually validating the thread number, though a maximum might be wise. ;) [00:27:17] Note that this could be implemented without pcntl instead by shelling out to subprocesses. [00:27:26] 03demon * r55295 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ClickTracking/ClickTracking.hooks.php: Spacing fixes [00:29:10] 03dale * r55296 10/trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (14 files in 9 dirs): * language updates and fixes/enhancements to js/php merge system [00:29:47] 03(NEW) ExportRDF adds extra http:// to !Entity wiki and !Entity property - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20304 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (akozak) [00:35:22] 03(NEW) Improve image diff display in CodeReview: file size, zoom - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20305 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (brion) [00:36:35] hi [00:39:36] hey, that's my bug! [00:39:46] 03(mod) Show current variant on drop-down menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20193 +comment (10brion) [00:42:45] 03siebrand * r55297 10/trunk/extensions/ (204 files in 187 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-08-18 23:54 UTC) [00:46:32] 03demon * r55298 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/syntaxChecker.php: Redo r54644. php -l still sucks, but some people don't have parsekit. So let's support both :) [00:46:34] <^demon> brion: Yay ^^^ [00:47:05] whats a good skin thats clean, attractive, and really simple for end users that will mostly be reading - but still preserves the edit toolbar in case they want to edit [00:47:31] hotchip: Vector, I guess. [00:47:38] whee [00:48:19] ^demon: re http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/54829 <- adding 'public' etc everywhere is just a waste of bytes [00:48:27] public is the default visibility [00:48:27] siebrand, i'll give it a look, thanks [00:48:52] <^demon> brion: I know that. But I don't like there being any ambiguity :) [00:48:53] hotchip: go to your favourite Wikipedia and click "Use Beta" [00:49:09] ^demon: there's no ambiguity between PUBLIC and PUBLIC [00:49:37] i'm probably going to do a bulk delete of useless "public" specifiers at some point : [00:49:39] :) [00:49:51] *^demon sighs [00:50:14] private and protected specifiers actually *do* something [00:50:34] <^demon> I know it doesn't _change_ anything, but it at least makes it clear that "this is intended to be public" [00:51:23] Why does Extension:ContactPage require the creation of a new user to figure out which email to send to rather than just doing it from the config file? [00:51:35] chuck: i blame the crack [00:52:17] *that's* why the wikimedia needed that much money during the fundraiser... [00:54:21] <^demon> This explains so much. The Wikimedia Foundation is a giant crack syndicate. [00:56:06] 03(mod) Install FormMailer and SimpleForms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20292 (10pbeaudette) [00:57:29] 04(REOPENED) Tabs of current deployment are 1 pixel off at the bottom. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20175 +comment (10brion) [00:58:13] So I guess I'll just rewrite it to have a configurable email address [00:58:42] 03(mod) Tabs of current deployment are 1 pixel off at the bottom. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20175 minor->04BLOCKER; +comment (10brion) [00:58:51] (working in my private git repo to avoid angering the strange person who originally made the requirement of having to create an account for the contact form) [01:00:07] zomg blocker [01:03:00] <^demon> I saw blocker and almost instinctively lowered it :p [01:05:41] whoa, the new edit toolbar has dialogs and stuff now [01:05:55] they're way too "web 2.0 glossy" but it's a good start :P [01:07:52] 03siebrand * r55299 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/renamewiki.php: Fix syntax error from r55287 [01:08:40] $extdb->query( "CREATE DATABASE {$to}" ); [01:08:47] shouldn't that be backtick'd? [01:09:36] chuck: eh? Account for the contact form? [01:10:09] siebrand: you have to create a user and confirm it's email to choose where the mail goes for the contact form currently [01:10:21] chuck: right. [01:11:46] so I'm going to fork it and make it something like this: $wgContactRecipients = array( 'support' => 'support@mysite.com', 'suggestions' => 'suggestions@mysite.com', 'questions' => 'questions@mysite.com' ); [01:12:18] There may be a contact form like that already I think, but it didn't work the way we wanted it to iirc [01:13:27] ^demon: r55299 came out of testing r55298 :) [01:13:46] chuck: fork? [01:14:00] <^demon> siebrand: yay it works :) [01:14:10] ^demon: on Windows, even. [01:14:42] siebrand: yeah [01:14:54] I won't touch the extension in SVN since Wikimedia is using it [01:15:32] chuck: make it able to use both, with a preference for the current behaviour? [01:15:51] hmm [01:16:41] <^demon> siebrand: I tested it on Windows. With both parsekit and php -l\ [01:17:18] ^demon: haven't used parsekit, don't even know what it does. [01:17:29] well, a kit with parsers, probably. [01:18:46] <^demon> It does something with parsing the syntax and checking for errors. I dunno how it works though. [01:18:58] <^demon> But it's massively faster than shelling out to php -l [01:20:28] <^demon> brion: I don't know how your code review uploady thing works, so I guess you'll have to add that to syntaxChecker :) [01:20:37] mm that'd be nice :D [01:24:55] i was looking at what is causing my headache.... is there any solution to https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2257 as far as a new patch etc? [01:26:22] neurotope: for now you can work around by using {{#tag:whatever|param|param}} instead of [01:26:56] how do i do that when it has data points inside the xml tags... [01:27:38] what i mean is i am using the google maps extention, how would i enter points on the map? [01:39:20] 03brion * r55300 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Html.php: [01:39:20] Cleanup from r54770 "Add Html::input() convenience function" [01:39:20] Split the giant arrays of attributes/values to one item per line, which makes them easier to look at, easier to grep, and easier to see what's happening when they're changed in diffs. [01:39:20] We're not printing; vertical space isn't at a premium. ;) [01:42:33] brion: is there a default argument that is used to represend the content of the content in the form {{#tag:googlemaps|param|param}} [01:43:14] i think the last one? or maybe just whichever doesn't have an = in it :) i forget [01:44:05] brion: is the a standard way to preserve line breaks (they have some significance to this extention... do i just start a line with | and go nuts :-) [01:44:23] neurotope: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Tag_extensions#Extensions_and_Templates [01:44:32] should work in theory :D [01:45:20] brion: with the 10+ hours i have been wrestleing with this, ill take a theoritical lead :-) thanks [01:47:52] :D [01:50:33] dumb question, if i have some textareas that arent being formatted correctly, even though it clearly says rows=1 in the page source, its got like 20 rows, whats the culprit? [01:54:37] brion: OMG!!! it works, and the content has to be the first param, and unmarked... works like a charm, thank you soooo much!!!! [01:55:26] 03demon * r55301 10/trunk/phase3/includes/HttpFunctions.php: Followup r53884, use wfSuppressWarnings/wfRestoreWarnings instead of @ [01:57:30] <^demon> \o/ Less than 50 fixmes! [02:07:19] 03brion * r55302 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) [02:07:19] Revert image crop for now: [02:07:19] r54746 "Update formatting for r54745" [02:07:19] r54745 "Added crop support for inline images." [02:07:19] r54748 "Making demon happy (adding public/protected to function definitions) and add some comments along the way." [02:07:23] Several issues: [02:07:25] * Implementation is ImageMagick-specific, no support for GD backend [02:08:04] 04(REOPENED) allow cropping images when rendered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7757 +comment (10brion) [02:08:21] congrats neurotope :D [02:11:09] 03(NEW) Reverted revs in CodeReview should have a clearer style; blue BG doesn't say "reverted" to me :) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20306 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (brion) [02:11:24] <^demon> brion: Pick a color [02:11:43] <^demon> :) [02:11:47] hah [02:17:30] 03brion * r55303 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Follow-up r54629 - clarify that we're making the style sheets work in Opera, not that we're making them not work :) [02:18:49] <^demon> Sanity check...why isn't the line-through working? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:^demon/vector.css [02:19:59] *brion looks [02:20:34] <^demon> Stuck cache [02:20:40] looks feasible [02:20:45] <^demon> I was purging....apparently not hard enough [02:21:06] heh [02:21:23] nom nom looks good :D [02:21:42] maybe make the background and the text both a smidge lighter [02:22:30] <^demon> Too late :) [02:22:39] 03demon * r55304 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/codereview.css: (bug 20306) Reverted revs in CodeReview should have a clearer style. Now grey with a strikethru. [02:24:00] ^demon: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Brion_VIBBER/vector.css ? [02:25:04] <^demon> Looks good to me. [02:26:20] 03demon * r55305 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/codereview.css: Make it a bit lighter. [02:26:34] whee [02:26:48] 03(FIXED) Reverted revs in CodeReview should have a clearer style; blue BG doesn't say "reverted" to me :) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20306 +comment (10innocentkiller) [02:28:28] whee thx :D [02:28:36] <^demon> np. [02:33:20] 03brion * r55306 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Preferences.php: [02:33:20] Revert r54585 "Fix bug 19261 by saving the username as the signature if it is submitted empty" [02:33:20] Looks like the base problem is that empty is being interpreted as "put empty in the sig" instead of as "use default sig" at signature replacement time. [02:33:20] We shouldn't be saving the username into preferences if it hasn't been explicitly typed; if the user changes their name, they should automatically pick up the new value. [02:33:46] 04(REOPENED) Do not strip off addition in parenthesis in signature - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19261 +comment (10brion) [02:36:55] ok, gonna eat and return later [03:52:24] Does Krimpet ever come in here? [03:53:03] yes [03:56:27] Unless anyone else has experience fumbling with php's proc_open and pipes the way Lua does, I guess I'm going to have to poke his talkpage. [04:08:48] Is there a way to add a link to a page that goes to the edit page of another entry [04:12:56] Furyofaseraph: if you include a page that has sections, the edit section links will go to that included page [04:12:57] Yes. [04:13:07] and that too. [04:13:14] alternately you can just use {{fullurl:PAGENAME|action=edit}} [04:13:43] *Splarka bites GreenReaper [04:14:27] Hey, does anyone know a place to request SUL-related username usurpation for mediawiki.org? [04:14:32] *Emufarmers gives GreenReaper a rabies shot [04:14:54] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Requests/Renames ? [04:14:54] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Requests#Requests_for_renames [04:14:59] osnap [04:15:14] yah, or that [04:15:38] that second one should be Rename_archive or Renames_(done) or such [04:16:12] or just repeatedly yell for a bureaucrat in here [04:16:24] hmmm [04:16:25] [13:54:48] can I set permissions in a way that users can create and change discussion (talk) pages, but not edit the normal pages? I tried ['user']['edit] = false with ['user']['createtalk']=true, but it seems the former surpresses the latter... [04:16:25] [13:55:35] jelle: No, you can't do that. To create talk pages you need both edit and createtalk [04:16:31] why didn't roan suggest namespace protection? [04:16:44] Thanks guys [04:22:05] hey guys what would be the best extension for mass page deletion (using mediawiki version 1.15)? [04:22:43] if by username, you can use the Nuke extension [04:22:55] !e Nuke | RichardJ87 [04:22:55] --mwbot-- RichardJ87: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Nuke [04:23:30] if you just have a list of pages, I don't know any good extesions, but I have a javascript that should work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Splarka/ajaxbatchdelete.js [04:23:37] and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Splarka/ajaxbatchundelete.js [04:24:04] I was hoping for one that provides a number of options (i.e. delete all pages with this prefix, category, namespace, author, etc.) [04:28:07] I think this is what i'm looking fore - http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:NukeDPL [04:33:31] ahhhh, had a nice break poking at laconica instead of mediawiki :) [04:33:42] now for a little more evening code review ;) [04:38:38] 03yaron * r55307 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/storage/SMW_SQLStore2.php: Added 'smwDeleteSemanticData' hook, for use by Semantic Internal Objects [04:41:14] there we go [04:41:20] Is that a blog in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? [04:41:50] Annemarie: :-P [05:08:30] 03brion * r55308 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/syntaxChecker.php: newline at end of output :) [05:22:43] brion: use the autoloader for all the requires, or just the ones I added? [05:24:00] just th eone :) [05:24:44] I don't actually know how to use the autoloader; is there some code I could crib? [05:25:07] just add the class to includes/AutoLoader.php [05:33:06] brion: how late are you staying up? [05:34:19] *Splarka wonders why brion was up at 3am on sunday, or if it was his clone... [05:35:08] clearly not a clone [05:35:17] else the CTO position would not have been split [05:36:34] why? it would just prove one clone isn't enough [05:36:43] and it would take a long time to produce a second one [05:39:22] 03(NEW) Generate automatic summary /* blah */ when I manually add a section heading when editing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20307 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (brion) [05:41:56] 03emufarmers * r55309 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Follow-up to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/54561: use the class autoloader. [05:42:26] apergos: not if we have big vats [05:42:30] Emufarmers: just use 'rXXXX' when referring in the commit summary. CodeReview will pick up the reference and link it for you :) [05:42:54] Okay [05:43:00] wonder if we can get CIA to link to codereview urls :) [05:43:14] looks good :D [05:43:15] Better for me: I spent five minutes deciding whether it should be followup, follow-up, or follow up [05:43:37] Emufarmers: just to confirm; what happens if you try to read in a .7z this way but 7za isn't available? [05:43:40] Oops [05:43:42] do we get a sensible error message? [05:43:45] why did I fully link it [05:43:55] *Emufarmers slaps himself upside the head [05:44:06] Didn't test that; let me try [05:46:26] heh [05:47:37] http://dpaste.org/74gP/ [05:47:44] good enough, or do you want explicit failure? [05:59:54] 03(mod) Install FormMailer and SimpleForms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20292 +comment (10brion) [06:15:39] 03(mod) Install FormMailer and SimpleForms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20292 +comment (10brion) [06:16:18] 03(mod) Install FormMailer and SimpleForms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20292 (10brion) [06:17:18] 03(mod) Install FormMailer and SimpleForms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20292 (10pbeaudette) [06:17:39] brion is still awake? [06:18:01] not anymore [06:18:54] 'critical'/'highest', really? [06:19:28] Well, it depends how you measure. [06:19:51] against every other bug ever [06:20:07] It is high priority for the Foundation, from what I understand. [06:20:14] And deadline-oriented. [06:24:34] Splarka: Do you have any recommendations for the bug? [06:24:51] I suppose a pure JS option is possible? [06:25:17] HTMLets (or some other form of raw HTML), writing a new extension, [06:26:14] "to support the major roll-out of the call for participation phase of strategic priority" [06:26:29] *Splarka waits for that to be translated from buzz to en-gb [06:26:55] Tallyho? [06:27:38] JS isn't a very good option, you'd have to make it a mailto: form, which is lame [06:27:58] needs server side support for Happy Fun Good Times Hilarity, which means an extension [06:30:06] I don't see any current code that's really capable for this. Do you? [06:32:08] FormMailer and SimpleForms ^_^ [06:32:30] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Form Hm [06:33:19] http://vinismo.com/en/Special:Form/Wine <-- In action [06:37:54] 03(mod) Install FormMailer and SimpleForms - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20292 (10public) [06:52:15] 03(mod) Invoking Exhibit result printer with OntoSkin2 activated causes stack overflow - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20264 (10markus) [06:55:52] on the topic of FormMailer, does anyone know any good examples of wiki's using that extension? [07:10:04] 03siebrand * r55310 10/trunk/extensions/ParserFunctions/ (ParserFunctions.i18n.php ParserFunctions.php): Somehow the implementation of r54847 did not work. Now adding $wgExtensionMessagesFiles ParserFunctionsMagic instead, which does appear to work. [07:10:08] 03(mod) ExportRDF adds extra http:// to !Entity wiki and !Entity property - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20304 (10markus) [07:41:34] 03catrope * r55311 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/js/plugins/jquery.suggestions.js: Follow-up to r55291: remove arrow key throttling from jquery.suggestions.js as well [08:43:37] is there a reliable way to check into which categories does a page belong to while editing it? (i could just parse editPage->textbox1 for category tags (i18n is bit of an issue) but I hope there's a neater way :) ) [08:43:43] in extension i mean :) [08:46:07] maybe API? [08:46:55] title->getParentCategories() does not work as the page has not been saved yet (no db update) [08:46:56] mibbim: check the categorylinks table [08:47:03] ah [08:47:57] mibbim: parse the text and get the categories from the ParserOutput object [08:48:07] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?text=%5B%5BCategory%3AFoo%5D%5D%0D%0A%5B%5BBar%5D%5D&action=parse [08:48:12] ialex: okay. i'll do that :) [08:48:22] thanks [08:49:28] mibbim: so $poutput = $wgParser->parse( $text, $title, $popts ); [08:50:14] $title must be a Title object, $popts a ParserOptions object and $poutput is the ParserOutput object [08:51:23] cool. i think i'll manage now :) [09:08:12] 03dale * r55312 10/trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (libEmbedVideo/embedVideo.js skins/kskin/styles.css): * updated kskin integration (still mostly broken) [09:21:27] <_bt> hi, how do i remove uploaded files visible on the "special pages > files list" page? [09:25:06] remove that list, or delete the files? [09:26:05] how do i enable upload in wiki? [09:26:20] !upload [09:26:20] --mwbot-- File uploads are disabled per default, set $wgEnableUploads=true to enable it. See for configuration details, and for using uploaded images and other files. [09:28:22] where do i set $wgEnableUploads=true ? [09:28:36] <_bt> Splarka: will deleting the files from the underlying filesystem remove them from the wiki then? [09:28:56] _bt: that will cause problems [09:29:10] <_bt> so whats the best way to remove them (from wiki + file sys) ? [09:29:10] make yourself a sysop, and go to the image description page, and click [delete] [09:29:20] <_bt> they are not images, they are pdf's. [09:29:25] <_bt> !sysop [09:29:25] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "sysop". You might try: !anonnotice !css !javascript !js !oversight !sitenotice [09:29:32] <_bt> i thought i was a sysop [09:29:34] same difference [09:29:52] view a page source, see what you have in var wgUserGroups = [ [09:29:54] brb [09:30:39] <_bt> var wgUserGroups = ["*", "user", "autoconfirmed"]; [09:31:23] !rightssql | _bt [09:31:23] --mwbot-- _bt: INSERT INTO user_groups (ug_user, ug_group) VALUES ('1', 'bureaucrat'); Where '1' is your user ID, and 'bureaucrat' is the group you wish to apply. [09:31:34] <_bt> var wgUserGroups = ["*", "user", "autoconfirmed"]; [09:31:49] <_bt> thats what is in my view source [09:31:59] <_bt> so i need to add myself as sysop yeah? [09:32:14] are there any sysops? Special:Listusers/sysop [09:32:43] <_bt> * Tim ‎(Bureaucrat, Sysop) << me [09:32:50] log in with that account [09:32:54] <_bt> i am logged in... [09:32:57] make your other user +sysop [09:33:05] <_bt> i am just unsure where / how to delete stuff [09:33:10] <_bt> i dont have another user [09:33:17] <_bt> i am logged in as me perm [09:33:21] odd, try logout/login, your wgUserGroups doesn't show you having those [09:33:51] <_bt> var wgUserGroups = ["*", "user", "autoconfirmed"]; [09:34:23] dun dun dun, mystery [09:34:29] <_bt> mystery indeed [09:34:39] can you link to this wiki? [09:34:51] <_bt> no its internal [09:35:02] <_bt> just one sec, maybe i am using a different user? [09:35:06] <_bt> i did set this up a long time ago [09:35:10] probably [09:35:14] login as Tim ^_^ [09:35:33] as Tim, go to Special:Userrights and set your other user +sysop and +bureaucrat [09:35:34] <_bt> var wgUserGroups = ["bureaucrat", "sysop", "*", "user", "autoconfirmed"]; [09:35:58] Special:Listusers should list all users [09:36:05] ok i have done $wgEnableUploads=true and ensured that images is writable. How do i then upload an image? [09:36:09] then on the File: page for files/images, you'll see [delete] [09:36:25] letourdefrance: in 'toolbox' should be "Upload a file" or such [09:36:30] <_bt> thanks for that Splarka !! [09:36:36] <_bt> is there a "special" page i can use to prune users [09:36:37] rar [09:36:42] _bt: nope [09:36:48] !deleteuser [09:36:48] --mwbot-- Deleting users is very messy and not recommended, because this breaks referential integrity in the database (they appear in many different tables like users, edit histories, recentchanges, preferences, etc). A safe solution is to block the users, and possibly rename them with . You can also try [09:37:09] users are pretty much there forever [09:37:53] <_bt> ok - thanks. [09:39:16] Currently I am running mediawiki 1.9 and would like to migrate to a new m/c and upgrade to 1.15 [09:40:07] So my plan is to dump the db from the old server and restore it on the new and run the upgrade scripts there...will this work? [09:42:16] 03(mod) Edit boxes lose changes on back/forward - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20221 (10conti) [09:44:11] any one?...any migration doc? [09:54:43] 03(FIXED) Need to tweak thread search results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20002 +comment (10agarrett) [10:21:08] is it somehow possible to upload a large image, which wiki then takes and creates a tumbnail from. Then insert the thumbnail on my wiki site, and when the image is clicked, a new windows is opened with the full size image? [10:25:33] 03(mod) Add option for editors in preferences to always show diff to latest flagged revision - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20058 (10pbirken) [10:25:51] huh? [10:26:33] thats our automated bot attached to the bug system [10:28:51] 03siebrand * r55313 10/trunk/phase3/js2/ (9 files in 8 dirs): [10:28:51] * remove message "wgfogg_wrong_version"; was unused [10:28:51] * rename some message keys, to avoid duplicates in mwEmbed.i18n.php with other MediaWiki message keys (not yet done) [10:28:51] * fix link errors and unwanted changes introduced in r55296 where ":" was replaced by " : " also in messages [10:28:54] * update mwEmbed.i18n.php with updated keys [10:39:48] 03dale * r55314 10/trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (4 files in 4 dirs): * working display of menus .. now to fix j hooking [10:40:25] 03(NEW) svn.wikimedia.org doesn't respond on IPv6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20308 normal; Normal; Wikimedia: Subversion; (kenny) [10:45:02] 14(INVALID) svn.wikimedia.org doesn't respond on IPv6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20308 +comment (10kenny) [10:46:01] Connecting to svn.wikimedia.org|2620:0:862:1:209:3dff:fe10:d5d2|:80... failed: Connection refused. [10:46:53] 14(WFM) mwdumper java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Invalid contributor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18328 +comment (10rainman) [10:50:56] 03(NEW) Lucene Search configure doesn't work when maintenance is symlinked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20309 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Lucene Search; (kenny) [10:53:21] 03(mod) Edit boxes lose changes on back/forward - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20221 (10hartman) [10:55:47] letourdefrance: i implemented something like that using floatbox (JS window). check out gallery tag and extend upon it [10:59:55] letourdefrance: to generate thumbs, check out File::createThumb at the API docs [11:06:26] 03werdna * r55315 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: Add doc comment for JS2 dependency in live preview enhancements from r55239 [11:15:20] 03(FIXED) looks cluttered - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20128 +comment (10hartman) [11:15:39] werdna, so i installed LQT, i go to a new talk page, click start new discussion and nothing happens, just the page reloads [11:18:27] rainman-sr: what version? [11:18:42] latest svn [11:25:25] rainman-sr: odd [11:25:49] can you reproduce? [11:26:35] looking... [11:27:27] what's the general difference between objects with prefix $wg and $wf? [11:27:42] f are functions? [11:28:09] and what does "w" stand for? [11:28:38] dunno, wiki? world? women? [11:28:45] wikipedia [11:29:00] i see [11:30:57] the "g" seems to stand for global [11:31:48] 03werdna * r55316 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (lqt.js pages/TalkpageView.php): Move display: none to be added in JS, not in HTML, otherwise the form doesn't appear without JS2 [11:32:39] rainman-sr: fixed there [11:32:56] werdna: http://imagebin.ca/view/AR695nI1.html [11:33:00] 03werdna * r55317 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/View.php: Remove obsolete restriction on changing the title by people without the "move" permission [11:33:28] werdna: not sure if you knew about that. [11:33:31] Safari 4 [11:33:39] rainman-sr: LiquidThreads is more fun with $wgEnableJS2 on ;) [11:33:58] thedj: happens on all browsers [11:33:59] :) [11:36:30] is there a nicer way to have multiline strings than concatenate them with 'ab'.'cd'? [11:37:02] HEREDOC, not putting a closing quote [11:39:10] 03rainman * r55318 10/branches/lucene-search-2.1/ (11 files in 9 dirs): [11:39:10] Assorted stuff: [11:39:10] * bug 18767 - ./configure does not work properly, it produces garbage [11:39:10] * add experimental support for incremental rsync update of index with daily segment merges, needs a bit more testing [11:39:10] * update mwdumper [11:39:34] 03(FIXED) ./configure does not work properly, it produces garbage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18767 +comment (10rainman) [11:42:52] 03dale * r55319 10/trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/libEmbedVideo/embedVideo.js: * playhead width and player select fixes [11:43:49] mdale: is there a test setup somewhere btw ? [11:44:17] 03rainman * r55320 10/branches/lucene-search-2.1/src/org/wikimedia/lsearch/util/Configure.java: bug 20309 Lucene Search configure doesn't work when maintenance is symlinked [11:44:26] a few places... [11:44:38] what do you want to test? [11:44:44] 03(FIXED) Lucene Search configure doesn't work when maintenance is symlinked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20309 +comment (10rainman) [11:44:50] *thedj just curious [11:46:27] hmm http://sandbox.kaltura.com/testwiki/index.php/Main_Page has a more or less working version [11:47:23] ah cool [11:51:19] mdale: width:400pxpx; [11:51:48] and when you switch plugins multiple times, it's starts doubling up on wrapping div's in the thumb. [11:52:21] the svn version? [11:52:38] on that kaltura sandbox [11:52:53] hmm [11:53:09] ah.. yea .. need to fix that ;) [11:53:27] http://imagebin.ca/view/R-hvYTFd.html [11:57:28] 03(NEW) Invalid values of added_lines, removed_lines, edit_diff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20310 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (beau) [11:58:16] thedj: yes yes... [11:58:17] 03dale * r55321 10/trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/libEmbedVideo/embedVideo.js: * don't wrap video player container if already in DOM [12:07:12] mdale: and for the media insertion tool, i was wondering if there can be a link to the original media description page, somewhere after i selected a media. [12:07:41] *werdna eyes mdale [12:07:46] what are you doing online at... 5am? [12:09:01] mdale: somewhere it says "rest crop" instead of "reset crop" [12:09:12] there was some breakage with the k-skin that needs integration ... and I leave to BA in less than 12 hours .. [12:10:41] Flights to BA do have a tendency to make devs stay awake [12:11:11] :( [12:11:15] thedj: spelling is fixed in svn [12:11:20] Is there a place on our MediaWiki that we can see all the listed template we created? [12:11:43] mdale: works quit nicely. great job. [12:12:26] thedj: let me know if you have a good idea where to put the original page link ;) [12:13:13] i'll think about it. [12:14:49] hmm i am trying to type a formula in my mediawiki, like this:

\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}

but it is just rendered as text. Am I missing something? [12:17:18] the math module ? [12:17:18] 03demon * r55322 10/trunk/extensions/MWReleases/ (. ApiMWReleases.php MWReleases.i18n.php MWReleases.php): Quick and dirty extension to let us output currently supported versions of MW via the API. Intended for MW.org so the new installer can check for the latest version. [12:17:20] <^demon> Yay done. Now it's time to get ready for work :p [12:30:51] where do i find the texvc.exe? [12:36:54] 03siebrand * r55323 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: Add support for MWReleases [12:38:14] I set up my wiki so that only users in the "author"-Group can read and edit pages. But now i have the problem, that non-authors can't logout, as they have no right to read the logout-page :/ [12:38:37] thedj: the math module??? [12:39:02] Is it possible to set something like a background-image repeat-x in a header? [12:39:08] I mean for the template [12:39:54] I tried it without success and I was wondering if it could work with Mediawiki [12:40:26] Can i somehow give normal users the right to view the Logout-Page? [12:41:06] !math [12:41:06] --mwbot-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Math [12:41:37] letourdefrance: Read the Installation part there. [12:44:05] thedj: but it says i have to build an configure texvc program. Does this build on a windows machine? [12:45:09] *thedj has no idea. [12:45:16] i doubt it. [12:45:20] hmmm [12:45:24] that sucks [12:46:03] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Windows#Building_texvc_on_Windows [12:46:05] letourdefrance: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Windows#Mathematics_Support [12:46:08] rofl [12:48:45] How do I remove the edit buttons on the side of each paragraph? [12:49:09] the magic of css [12:49:34] span.editsection { display:none; } [12:49:53] what file is that located im? [12:49:54] *in [12:50:14] this would be for just you ? [12:50:45] all around the wiki [12:51:00] yes, but for only yourself, or for all users ? [12:51:13] All users [12:51:24] you add it to MediaWiki:Common.css [12:51:25] [[Mediawiki:Common.css]] then [12:52:08] dang....that is really difficult to get math support in mediawiki [12:52:25] that does not live up to easy [12:52:29] yeah, it's problem due to lack of support in browsers :D [12:52:49] making everyone having to jump trough hoops getting it implemented serverside. [12:54:13] yeah...but comeon....making people compile source code etc. is not the best way to do this [12:54:26] letourdefrance: you are welcome to improve it. [12:54:30] precompiled versions of the code should be available and shipped with mediawiki [12:54:46] maybe i will [13:01:59] I get Unable to execute 'sh -c "texvc.exe' ?? How do i change that? [13:02:00] 03dale * r55324 10/trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (27 files in 9 dirs): [13:02:00] * crappy broken kskin merge with mvpcf for now [13:02:00] * minor sequencer fix [13:02:00] * other minor code cleanup [13:05:18] letourdefrance: you need to actually build the executable first [13:05:21] 03dale * r55325 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/ (5 files in 4 dirs): * some refactored js2/mv_embed updates (keeping sync with trunk) [13:05:24] which is a bit of a pain on windows, i guess [13:08:01] Duesentrieb i found a precompiled version which i am using [13:08:21] then it's not in the right place, or doesn't have the right permissions [13:08:26] the debug log may tell you more [13:08:28] !debug [13:08:28] --mwbot-- For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [13:12:34] i just set up the containing folder in the path, and that seemed to clear it off [13:12:45] now i just get Failed to parse (unknown error): \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} [13:13:37]