[00:14:35] wow, alot more people here than I expected [00:17:23] Anyone on that can help me with .svg files? [00:22:14] !ask | Hintswen [00:22:14] --mwbot-- Hintswen: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. See also: !gethelp [00:24:49] lol i was wondering if someone was gonna say that [00:25:59] I uploaded the australian flag svg file from wikipedia onto my wiki Link: http://habbowiki.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Australia.svg and it's not displaying properly. Not sure if I need to install one of those things that will make it convert properly (and if I do, can I even though I'm running on shared hosting?) [00:26:23] @search svg [00:26:23] --mwbot-- Results: [svg] [00:26:26] !svg [00:26:26] --mwbot-- For more information regarding SVGs in MediaWiki, see . [00:26:35] Have you read that? [00:26:37] already checked that [00:27:24] I havent's installed any of those conversters though, not sure if i can because i'm on shared hosting [00:27:26] 03(NEW) action=edit&redirect=yes does not redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20414 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Redirects; (jidanni) [00:27:58] how doese one edit the content of there special:upload page [00:28:22] Hintswen: Without a converter, it's pretty hard to render the SVGs. [00:28:28] You're probably better off just uploading a PNG. [00:28:44] Can I install a converter on shared webhosting? [00:28:59] Possibly, but I don't think it's simple. [00:29:08] imagemagick might be available on a shared host, but I think it tends to be kind of crappy at SVGs [00:29:22] Yes, you'd probably want rsvg. [00:29:23] thought so. Maybe I'll ask my host if they have any of them installed [00:29:39] Installing anything on shared hosts usually makes me want to... get a real server. [00:29:55] well I have 2 VPS's but I dont use them for hosting any of my sites [00:30:13] So install a webserver? :-) [00:30:25] what shared host you using [00:30:42] both my VPS's are too busy with other stuff to be hosting websites unfortunatly [00:30:45] the one i have for the wiki i run has imagemagick alredy installed [00:30:50] HostGator [00:33:05] ImageMagick is installed [00:43:33] looks like it's just ImageMagick :( [00:43:57] The others can be something of a pain to get on in terms of dependencies. [00:44:12] I think FileRepo lets you use Wikimedia's images without uploading and auto-converters to PNG. [00:44:17] !filerepo | Hintswen [00:44:17] --mwbot-- Hintswen: I don't know anything about "filerepo". You might try: !foreignfilerepos !instantcommons [00:44:26] !foreignfilerepos | Hintswen [00:44:26] --mwbot-- Hintswen: see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgForeignFileRepos [00:45:00] It probably shouldn't direct the message to the piped person if it doesn't know anything about it [00:45:38] lol true [00:45:46] thanks for the link, i'll go read it now :) [00:46:49] Emufarmers: Contact Amidaniel. ;-) [00:46:52] :O this will probably save my ALOT of hassels [00:47:00] If you can get it working, yeah. [00:47:08] I've done it on shared hosting. [00:47:23] I'd have better luck contacting the dead [00:47:41] Emufarmers: do you know Java? [00:47:51] lolJava [00:48:21] Depends what you mean by "know"; I took two Java courses last year (well, one Java course and one data structures course that used Java) [00:48:35] http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn fixit urself [00:48:46] It's actually written in Java? [00:48:51] Yes. [00:48:52] :-| [00:49:12] Anyway, it's a trivial thing to change, so I'm sure I could do it, but he'd still have to actually apply it [00:49:37] Someone should e-mail him... [00:49:47] It should be a multi-maintainer project on the TS. [00:51:10] *MrZ-man has to re-learn Java this semester :P [00:51:24] Also, trying to actually view the code gives a 500 error [00:51:25] lolopensource [00:51:47] http://amidaniel.com/svnroot/trunk/MWBot/src/com/amidaniel/mwbot/ [00:51:56] yey [00:53:38] Hmm, getUnknownResponse() in MWBotParser.java, I suppose [00:53:55] Warning: file_put_contents(/home/hintswen/public_html/habbowiki.org/images/thumb/Flag_of_the_Philippines.svg/) [function.file-put-contents]: failed to open stream: Is a directory in /home/hintswen/public_html/habbowiki.org/includes/filerepo/ForeignAPIRepo.php on line 172 [00:54:01] I guess i just beed to chmod the images folder to 777? [00:54:05] No, higher up the call chain... [00:54:40] oh wait, sure helps to read the error lol [00:55:30] oh, just make it not add namePart if ret was null [00:55:56] 03(NEW) Magic word 'categorytree' not found - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20415 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CategoryTree; (marius) [01:10:34] 03(mod) Delete threads in discussion page if the page is deleted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19409 +comment (10wlamagna) [01:12:36] 03(mod) External link syntax which adds rel="license" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9666 +comment (10hartman) [01:30:14] 03(mod) Auto account creation creates privacy vulnerability - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19161 (10hozanji) [01:37:02] hmm... [01:37:11] anyone know whats wrong with this: $wgNamespaceProtection[NS_TEMPLATE] = array( 'sysop' ); [01:37:32] trying to protect templates so only sysop can edit, loged in as sysop and it say i dont ave permission [01:37:43] "You do not have permission to edit pages in the Template namespace." [01:39:37] 03(mod) action=edit&redirect=yes does not redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20414 normal->15enhancement; normal->low; +comment (10innocentkiller) [01:43:02] Hintswen: Well, templates can technically be in any namespace, so that's not very secure. [01:43:18] You can transclude any page. {{foo}} is Template:Foo, but {{User:foo}} is User:Foo, etc. [01:43:25] The unnamed namespace is {{:foo}} [01:43:34] As for your specific question, NFI. [01:44:15] <^demon> Annemarie: Does bug 20414 seem useful? [01:44:27] aah, you answered another thing i've eben wondering about lol [01:44:49] &redirect=yes? Haha [01:44:50] tried to include an article in no namespace using {{article}} and it wasnt working, tried Main:Article too lol [01:45:00] I guess it could be. [01:45:11] Does that work with views? [01:45:14] I've never seen anyone use it. [01:45:15] <^demon> No. [01:45:41] So the action=edit bit a bit misleading in the summary, unless they only want &action=edit to work... [01:45:56] bit a bit? Yeah, that makes sense... I need food. [01:45:57] <^demon> "Gentlemen, often one wants to be sure one will be editing the redirect itself, so one gives the URL with redirect=yes&action=edit" [01:46:06] BTW how isnt it secure? I just dont want people editing the templates that are up there cause I know most people are just going to vandalize the wiki. [01:46:14] <^demon> Sure, if they like giving made up URLs that aren't documented to exist anywhere :) [01:46:16] ^demon: Yes, seems like it could be useful. [01:46:45] &redirect=no certainly is. &redirect=yes would be good for future-proofing edit links, presumably? [01:46:58] Kinda confusing, though, if you think about it too much. [01:47:26] Sounds like you're saying the page is a redirect (&redirect=yes!). [01:47:41] &followredirect= :PP [01:47:41] <^demon> Adding redirect=yes would imply to me that no redirect param implies redirect=no...which isn't the case. [01:47:55] It is with ?action=edit. [01:48:12] <^demon> redirect=yes/no/purple doesn't do anything on action=edit :) [01:48:56] Really? [01:49:03] Oh, I guess that's right. [01:49:24] *^demon adds redirect=purple as an easter egg [01:49:35] But it does _not_ redirect when using &action=edit, which would be the same behavior and wouldn't be confusing... [01:49:46] The absence of the parameter matches the implication. [01:50:17] <^demon> True. [01:50:34] *^demon has better things to do than add redirect=yes to EditPage. [01:50:58] What about &redirect=purple? [01:51:05] *MrZ-man tries to think of what redirect=purple would do [01:51:06] <^demon> Now that I can do! [01:52:00] <^demon> Annemarie: I'm boycotting EditPage until somebody decides to make it more like a sane class and less like a crack den. [01:52:27] Change starts at home! [01:54:16] *MrZ-man changes Annemarie [02:00:07] uugh i dont get this lol [02:09:35] Does anyone know if there's an extension for adding extra user prefs and having them accessible from another PHP page? [02:11:47] Extension:PreferencesExtension :O [02:13:03] I doubt it, until very recently, it was a huge PITA to add preferences with an extension [02:15:20] You're a huge PITA. [02:15:37] *MrZ-man spreads hummus on Annemarie [02:15:44] *Annemarie licks himself. [02:23:42] Hintswen: you can protect against the transclusion vulnerability with $wgNonTranscludableNamespaces [02:24:09] that exists? [02:24:09] Hmm, no, that's not what it's called [02:24:37] $wgNonincludableNamespaces[ [02:24:40] -[ [02:25:17] *MrZ-man listens to talks from wikimania [02:25:34] Though...that's irrelevant if you're only interested in restricting editing and not viewing [02:25:53] *Emufarmers slaps Annemarie [02:26:07] The hell? [02:26:36] He wanted to stop template editing. I told him any namespace can be a template. [02:26:42] I'm right, leave me alone. :-( [02:27:51] Yes, because when he says he wants to protect templates, clearly he's concerned about transcludability, not the actual template namespace. :-| [02:28:50] *Emufarmers snuggles [02:28:58] Hintswen: it's not working because $wgNamespaceProtection is based on rights, not groups [02:29:29] You need to say, say, $wgNamespaceProtection[NS_TEMPLATE] = array( 'delete' ); [02:29:46] Or define your own right and give it to the sysop group [02:35:55] yeah i actually figured it out a few mins ago lol [02:36:02] I used editinterface [02:50:57] Is there anyway to whitelist or blacklist pages included in special:search? [04:19:03] Splarka: Was it you who had a bunch of spinners lined up on differing backgrounds? [04:19:22] [[mw:User:Splarka/Throbbers]], I believe [04:19:42] bah, on mediawikiwiki :\ [04:19:51] er, no, wait, maybe it's on test [04:19:52] btw, Mike_lifeguard are you at wikimania? [04:20:00] sadly no [04:20:03] kk [04:20:21] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Splarka/Throbber [04:20:27] <3 [04:21:15] any requests for throbbing? [04:21:34] I got a few I didn't upload [04:21:38] Splarka: and when they look bad on dark, the problem is... what? (or alternatively, what should people do to make their spinners look better on dark?) [04:21:40] My only request is for your everlasting TLC. [04:22:38] Mike_lifeguard: for example, blue backgrounds on en.wp non-content spaces [04:22:42] you can never predict the background color [04:22:53] but really, it just shouldn't totally suck on non-white [04:23:05] You can predict all you want. You'll just be wrong in small cases. :P [04:23:17] yeah, exactly, so what should be done differently? [04:23:30] as for what they should do, it isn't easy to do it right, resizing images down to an animated gif merges with some color, usually white, unless you know what yer doing [04:23:36] oh, I draw each frame manually [04:23:41] then I know there is no edge-bleed, generally [04:24:41] *Mike_lifeguard passes along that recommendation [04:25:17] also, creating them at the finalized size, prevents having to resize them down causing background merge [04:25:26] http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5116/throbberallbackgroundsb.gif [04:26:01] http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5092/throbberallbackgroundss.gif [04:26:34] well, at least the edges where they touch transparency (since gif is monochrome transparency rather than an alpha layer) [04:27:53] Splarka: http://redmine.emesene.org/issues/show/69 fyi :) [04:28:39] 69 eh [04:29:15] what GreenReaper is to bytes in HTML, I am to anim gif, sorta [04:29:36] dithering is the worst enemy of anim gif [04:30:52] http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/6296/squarecirclespiralanim2.gif [04:31:44] You didn't make that one, did you? [04:31:45] Mike: nice, heh [04:32:01] hm? [04:32:04] I made that one, I didn't make http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/files/2009/08/squarecirclespiral.jpg [04:32:21] Mike: the emesene bug loaded finally [04:32:35] ah :D [04:32:40] The animation just makes it so much better [04:32:52] so your level of awesome just went up by one [04:33:03] is that good? [04:33:15] I think so [04:33:18] yay [04:33:29] bit too big for a throbber tho [04:33:47] File:Loading.gif is nice [04:34:04] yah, is the best one there that isn't mine [04:34:17] which is your pick? [04:34:18] but not very mediawikithemed [04:34:26] eh, I'd vote to keep the flower [04:34:43] ahh, idea [04:34:53] what flower? [04:35:23] http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/spinner.gif [04:35:29] that's supposed to be a flower [04:35:54] oh, that's hideous [04:36:43] yah, but is what we got [04:38:15] I wonder if the "spiral" would work if you took just one of its rings [04:38:27] too bad rotsnake doesn't scale [04:40:08] yeah [04:41:19] http://www.ritsumei.ac.jp/~akitaoka/rotsnake7.gif would be an awesome throbber [04:42:06] Heh, just make a version that actually rotates [04:47:17] ehm [04:47:20] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Rotsnake7.gif [04:47:27] http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/CheckUsage.php?i=Rotsnake7.gif&w=_100000 [04:47:35] pretty sure that is a photo negative of the original [04:47:37] not public domain [04:47:52] that makes my eyes hurt [04:48:10] just been there 3.75 years, no rush ^_^ [04:54:44] 03(NEW) ee-helper is not compatible with Chinese namespace names and file/title names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20416 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (liangent) [04:54:55] 03(mod) ee-helper is not compatible with Chinese namespace names and file/title names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20416 15enhancement->normal (10liangent) [05:00:18] apergos: some eye bleach http://imgur.com/3MyfW.jpg [05:00:37] poor thing [05:01:10] the cans are about perfect :-P [05:03:00] I guess that's about all bud light is good for [05:17:58] howdy [05:23:32] anyone up [05:26:08] !ask | needhelp1 [05:26:08] --mwbot-- needhelp1: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. See also: !gethelp [05:26:30] just came to chat [05:26:35] okay [05:26:38] was wondering if anyone was up [05:28:23] str4nd: what are you up to? [05:35:41] needhelp1, killing vandals [05:35:43] 03(mod) ee-helper is not compatible with Chinese namespace names and file/title names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20416 (10liangent) [05:39:24] I went looking for something on the Amharic/Ethiopian Wikipedia (http://am.wikipedia.org/wiki) and I noticed that when you type in the search bar, it automatically transliterates roman into Ethiopic. Does anybody have more details? [05:40:46] 03(mod) ee-helper is not compatible with Chinese namespace names and file/title names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20416 +need-review +patch (10xu.jimmy.wrk) [05:44:07] 03(mod) ee-helper is not compatible with Chinese namespace names and file/title names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20416 +comment (10liangent) [05:56:50] Anyone? [06:17:20] Hi [06:19:59] rar [06:21:12] i have a small problem [06:21:29] where is logos my wiki [06:33:08] 03(mod) XHTML parse error when using some math formulas - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19177 (10alex.emsenhuber) [06:34:52] morning people =) [06:34:59] torrentow: say what? [06:35:30] how to change my logo wiki [06:35:50] shouldn't be much of a problem, should it? just change $wgLogo? [06:35:58] Yes [06:36:17] if it doesn't work, check your apache error log for clues. [06:36:50] make sure to specify a full path [06:38:12] ?? [06:38:25] ? [06:39:17] all4you.site88.net/wiki [06:39:17] !logo [06:39:17] --mwbot-- The logo that appears in the top left of each page is determined by $wgLogo in the LocalSettings.php file. To change this you simply change the value of $wgLogo to point to the URL of your own logo. See for more information. Be sure $wgLogo is set to an absolute path, starting with "/" (or a protocol "http:"/"https:"). If you are using pretty URLs a relative path will behave oddly. [06:39:35] so most likely you have a bad path [06:39:49] you want to give it a path that a user's browser will be able to access, not a directory path [06:40:33] ok thx [06:42:02] What extensions should I install, if any, to be best prepared for the "digg effect"? (A bandwith surge) [06:42:49] !cache | Neurotiquette [06:42:49] --mwbot-- Neurotiquette: I don't know anything about "cache". You might try: !filecache !memcached !purge !refresh [06:42:56] :< [06:43:17] !cache is http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Cache [06:43:17] --mwbot-- Successfully added keyword: cache [06:43:22] !cache | Neurotiquette [06:43:22] --mwbot-- Neurotiquette: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Cache [06:43:26] Woo [06:43:40] @search Manual:Cache [06:43:40] --mwbot-- Results: [cache] [06:43:46] Anyway, extensions are mostly about adding functionality, not improving performance [06:43:56] Hmm [06:43:57] !performance [06:43:57] --mwbot-- [06:43:59] huh, nothing else linked to it? odd [06:44:48] !performance is [06:44:48] --mwbot-- Keyword "performance" already exists. Use "!performance del" to remove it. [06:44:57] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgMiserMode <-- will greatly improve site performance [06:45:01] Emufarmers: pm it [06:45:06] yah yah [06:45:21] you might wanna flip on $wgMiserMode if the site slows down too much, temporarily [06:45:35] I feel kind of awkward changing it through PMs, given that bot changes aren't logged anywhere [06:45:58] they is [06:46:02] orly? [06:46:08] orally [06:46:09] http://toolserver.org/~amidaniel/chanlogs/Emufarmers/ [06:46:23] o: [06:46:28] So [06:46:47] I confessed my deepest secrets to mwbot, and now he's betrayed me like this D: [06:46:48] No major changes you'd make in preparation? [06:47:17] Neurotiquette: enable filecache and memcache, and have miser mode ready in a pinch, is what I'd do probably [06:47:19] Er, no, definitely major changes I'd make: the ones in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Aaron_Schulz/How_to_make_MediaWiki_fast [06:47:22] oh and disable page hit counters [06:48:57] Splarka: that's not really a log of changes, by the way; it only helps if you know who made a change and that a change was made in the first place [06:51:17] "bot changes aren't logged anywhere" == false [06:51:28] you didn't say "there isn't a log of changes" [06:51:35] they are bot changes, they are logged [06:51:41] not my fault they're widely distributed ^_^ [06:52:20] Meh, it's equivalent to having Special:Contributions but no article histories or recent changes :) [06:52:30] sofixit [06:55:20] kk. [06:55:39] 03(mod) Corrupt content in Description in opensearch results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20411 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [06:55:43] have a centralized /privmsg/ folder [06:55:47] or something [06:55:56] 03(mod) Corrupt content in Description in opensearch results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20411 (10alex.emsenhuber) [06:56:51] hm, I actually have a wikilogo problem of my own; [06:57:05] [Fri Apr 24 17:55:02 2009] [error] [client 192.168.100.2] File does not exist: /srv/shares/intranet/htdocs/images/elvaWikiLogo2.png, referer: https://intranet.elva.se/wiki/index.php/Huvudsida [06:57:53] you don't want a system path, you want a web path [06:58:01] ah ok [06:58:21] all wgLogo does is stick that parameter value into a style="background-image:url()" [06:58:51] but, shouldn't it work to have a system path then? [06:59:48] eh no [06:59:57] hehe.. [07:00:01] unless http://yourserver/srv/shares/intranet/htdocs/images/elvaWikiLogo2.png is a valid image [07:00:03] is it? [07:00:11] er https [07:00:27] no.. [07:00:45] doh, [07:01:06] *gamla_kossan missed the "url" part [07:01:12] =) [07:01:26] still, I don't get this problem when I'm on the same net as the wiki box [07:01:35] just when I'm trying to access it via my proxy [07:01:39] Thanks Splarka [07:01:54] I mean, it /could/ grab the file on the backend, and copy it to a public folder, but that won't work all the time, especially if such folders aren't writable... it could make a back end symbolic link but that also might be an access problem [07:02:09] so all i t does is let you specify a web path [07:03:30] hm, not sure I follow. nevermind though, I'll just make it accessible via a web path. [07:03:38] thanks Splarka =) [07:03:51] rar [07:04:28] Anyone have a good strong argument I can use to convince a developer to upgrade a MW installation from 1.13 to 1.15 ? [07:04:56] Daworm: well, why do _you_ want it to happen? =) [07:05:04] Well, ideally you would find some new feature or bugfix that you know he needs [07:05:15] one key features is the |link= ability with images... [07:05:25] There you go! [07:05:29] =) [07:05:31] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_14/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES?view=markup [07:05:34] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_15/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES?view=markup [07:05:37] Means less CSS hacking to make the same feature happen (I tried that argument, didn't work :( ) [07:05:38] Otherwise, there's always the old standby: "omg security!" [07:05:46] Emufarmers: :D [07:05:52] Just tell him that if he doesn't upgrade: [07:05:54] !worstcase [07:05:54] --mwbot-- Generally, the worst that can happen is that someone compromises your site, steals your data, deletes it and replaces it with kiddy porn. Then they start a spam service on your server advertizing the kiddy porn to twenty million email addresses, daily. Then your home gets raided, you get fired and your wife leaves you. [07:06:41] Ooo - I should drill through the release notes for 1.14 as well (didn't do that) and then try worst case :) [07:07:07] I can understand his not wanting to do it (at least just yet) with getting a game ready for launch very soon... he would be a tad busy :) [07:07:29] I'm working at getting appropriate access to the wiki install to do tit all myself. That's on the "todo" list though :( [07:08:00] why not let the dev do his job and get the sysadmin to his job instead, ie upgrade the wiki if necessary? [07:08:06] =) [07:08:11] He's both :P [07:08:14] ah =) [07:12:15] morning [07:13:30] rarabbit [07:14:06] Whats the easiest way to display an RSS feed (in this case, from twitter) on mediawiki? [07:14:12] I've got htmlets extension enable [07:14:13] d [07:15:39] Splarka: thanks a lot, works just fine now =) [07:15:46] goodgood [07:16:02] Neurotiquette: http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Amediawiki.org+rss+extension [07:16:09] several generate RSS, several embed [07:18:44] yes !! I think I found one I can use :) [07:18:44] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19693 [07:20:08] I shall form my e-mail during the next day or two and look to finding a few more security bugs like this as examples :) [07:20:38] TY Splarka for the links :) [07:22:04] Daworm: please thank Emufarmers too ^_^ [07:22:46] >_> [07:22:55] TY Emufarmers for the worstcase :D [07:23:07] and the suggestion of bugfix :) [07:23:15] I'm sure there's another golden egg or two I can use :P [07:23:29] One or two functionality, 1 or 2 security fixes... RAWR! [07:23:41] And perhaps convince on doing the quarterly updates... :) [07:23:59] well - *waves* toodles all! [07:24:16] thank you Emufarmers [07:24:25] *Splarka is still winning [07:24:30] :v [07:26:06] how do i check if a page is special page? (in extension!) [07:26:18] check the namespace number [07:26:44] alright. thanks [07:26:58] $wgTitle->getNamespace(), [07:27:28] that'll tell you if it starts with Special: or an alias/translation thereof [07:27:39] okay. got it :) [07:27:56] (or is a bad title, which goes to Special:Badtitle [07:27:59] silently) [07:35:59] is there some hook that will get called before any type of page (regular, special, ???) gets rendered? i need to modify the output based on some rule [07:36:07] probably a skin hook [07:36:11] OutputPageBeforeHTML doesn't cut it [07:36:15] okay [07:36:43] but if you have a squid/varnish cache, anon users won't hit that hook [07:36:54] (though they'll see the cached version of the last hit of it) [07:37:34] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/BeforePageDisplay ? [07:37:47] alright [07:37:49] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/SkinAfterBottomScripts should be the very bottom of the page, just before [07:38:11] so it is before it is shown, but after it is rendered, or something [07:39:06] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks#Skinning_Templates etc [07:40:56] thanks. i think i'll manage now :) [07:42:04] Hi :-) [07:53:36] Is it possible to try the new mediawiki beta (Acai) and theme on my own machine? [07:54:09] Sure [07:54:44] Check out the trunk version of MediaWiki [07:54:59] Er, that is, svn checkout it :) [07:55:18] Cool, thanks :-) [07:57:47] is acai going to be included in 1.16? [08:12:37] how to check if a page happens to be the login page? [08:15:29] mmm, SpecialPage::resolveAlias( $wgTitle->getDBkey() ) should return "Userlogin" [08:16:05] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UserLogin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UserLogin/signup http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Connexion etc, all the same [08:16:06] okay. i will give that a go :) [08:17:17] superb! :) [08:17:17] I enabled the new Vector skin, but I can't find Enable enhanced editing [08:17:28] toolbar. Do I need to install an extension for this? [08:17:53] probably http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ [08:19:11] Cool, thanks. [08:28:05] 03(mod) Add "view source" links in subsections of protected documents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20401 (10liangent) [09:52:50] I'm having a problem where occasionally the content of

tags is not rendered (i.e. as a png) and instead the raw tex is shown. The png will show correctly if I edit->preview the page but this doesn't cause the formula to render in the regular view. Any idea why this might be happening? [09:59:28] 03(mod) Images accessibility with gallery, alt= doesn't exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18682 (10bury.rodan) [10:00:36] 03(FIXED) PDF rendering now accepts inline font sizes but doesn't adjust line spacing to suit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19223 +comment (10volker.haas) [10:00:46] hello. I have a mediawiki wiki on my site. I want to link from an article to a page in my domain but outside the wiki. How do I do that without hardcoding the domain name? [10:01:39] 03(mod) Provide a method to allow alternate text for images to be provided at the file description page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19906 +comment (10bury.rodan) [10:02:13] !interwiki | DexterLB [10:02:13] --mwbot-- DexterLB: Interwiki links are links between wikis. For instance, on Wikibooks, [[w:Article name]] or [[Wikipedia:Article name]] will link to a Wikipedia article. To set up interwiki links, see and . For easy configuration, use [10:02:38] qr: Special:Preferences [Math], what is selected there? [10:02:45] thank you [10:03:20] Splarka: always render PNG [10:03:26] odd [10:03:37] You're sure your directories don't have any space / permissions issues? [10:04:05] Splarka: it works 99% of the time, but sometimes one formula will get "stuck" not rendering [10:04:25] does it always work with preview? [10:04:39] yes [10:05:06] hmm [10:05:15] and after preview does it still fail in view? [10:05:54] can you go to a regular page view where it has failed, view the source, and paste the (if there is one)?, eg: $2^2$ [10:06:05] Splarka: yes, it still fails in view. Actually I just tried previewing the full page (instead of just the section with the problem) and the problem still shows there. [10:06:17] ahh [10:06:24] then possibly permission errors as Annemarie said [10:06:30] or timeouts [10:06:52] Splarka: timeouts are probably a good guess, the page is very formula heavy [10:07:08] try creating them in increments, rather than all at once? heh [10:07:36] once created, if the contents of the

tag don't change, the image is static
[10:07:51] (unless you're like apergos and like to delete static images!)
[10:07:54] The implementation is just gross.
[10:07:57] hm
[10:08:08] I usually notice either re-rendering or delayed loading for pages with a lot of formulas.
[10:08:12] On every refresh.
[10:08:39] The Math reference desk at en.wiki is the worst. The page loads and then everything moves by two pages with the formulas finish.
[10:08:51] s/with/when/
[10:08:59] *Splarka 	nelson muntzs Annemarie
[10:09:06] :-(
[10:09:29] aww
[10:09:46] what setting am I looking for if I wanted to increase the timeout for rendering math?
[10:12:02] hello
[10:24:03] 03(mod) LIKE is completely broken for SQLite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20275  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[10:28:22] 03(mod) Magic word 'categorytree' not found - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20415  (10niklas.laxstrom)
[10:36:21] 03(NEW) Don't show the diff between draft and stable version when editing a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20417 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (claymore.ws)
[10:40:28] hi@all
[10:40:44] is it possible to import articles from an older mediawiki installation?
[10:41:17] why you want to import instead of upgrade
[10:42:03] Nikerabbit: it is another installation on another server
[10:43:59] i try to move the wiki (1.6.12) from one server to mediawiki-1.15.1 on another server
[11:00:55] chah: and, why don't you move the whole wiki?
[11:09:54] chah, update, then move
[11:10:04] it's the easiest
[11:24:47] how can i change the color of an yet unwritten link in mediawiki ? i tried to type a:link.new { color: #087BF8; } in monobook.css(is used) and common.css but the color doesn't change... any hints ?
[11:33:23] have you tried a.new:link ?
[11:35:56] same result with both... a.new:link { color: #087BF8; } and a:link.new { color: #087BF8; } 
[11:47:32] 03(mod) Provide a method to allow alternate text for images to be provided at the file description page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19906  (10xenowiki)
[11:48:18] remove the :link
[11:49:53] how can i properly urlencode the pagename? {{urlencode:{{PAGENAME}}}} returns crap for ampersands. see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Subfader/1_%26_2  Here & becomes %26amp%3B
[11:50:40] i want to use {{urlencode:{{PAGENAME}}}} in a template that uses the pagename in a {{fullurl:...}} and & should become %26
[11:52:11] but {{fullurl:Foo¶m={{urlencode:{{PAGENAME}}}}}} returns & as & which I can't seem to {{#replace:...}}
[11:55:22] {{fullurl:Foo|param={{PAGENAME}}}}
[11:55:56] this includes blanks
[11:56:21] replacing those with + returns \+
[11:56:58] {{fullurl:Foo|param={{PAGENAMEE}}}} ?
[11:57:04] doh
[11:57:53] that was it :)
[11:59:28] now it has ugly underscores instead of +
[12:00:11] i wouldn't mind much but the page name is returned in a form input catched from the url parameter
[12:02:06] and {{#replace:{{PAGENAMEE}}|_|+}} replaces _ to \+
[12:07:46] got it. {{#rreplace:{{PAGENAMEE}}|_|+}}
[12:27:59] 03(FIXED) Install PdfHandler extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11215  +comment (10thomasV1)
[12:39:22] Platonides: on my old server i can't install php5
[12:39:27] 03(mod) Subcategories listed in Category list should have page title in tooltip (title=""). - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20412  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[12:39:39] therefore i can't update the old installation
[12:40:11] 03(mod) Subcategories listed in Category list should have page title in tooltip (title=""). - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20412  (10alex.emsenhuber)
[12:40:43] 03(NEW) Set up "Rollback", "Autoreviewer" group, and assign 'patrol' rights for (Auto)confirmed group on yuewiki - 10http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20419 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; ()
[12:41:41] Platonides: is it possible to move the database from the old wiki an update it with a new wiki installation?
[12:43:36] 03(mod) ee-helper is not compatible with Chinese namespace names and file/title names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20416  (10alex.emsenhuber)
[12:52:52] is there a way to add an import command into MediaWiki:Common.css to split it up a bit?
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