[00:13:01] PHP 5.1.6, Centos 5.3 x64, MW installed via ATrpms, mediawiki-1.15.1, eAccelerator installed via 'yum install php-eaccelerator' which installed eaccelerator-5.1.6_0.9.5.2, phpinfo() shows eAccelerator support enabled, MW shows: "Couldn't find Turck MMCache, eAccelerator, APC or XCache; cannot use these for object caching." Any ideas on how to fix this? [00:13:46] does too many inactive user accs degrade a mediawiki powered wiki performance? [00:16:15] no [00:28:11] I'm a bit confused, how do I create a new category instead of a new page? [00:28:47] just add page to the category, if you want to edit the category page edit [[Category:Foo]] [01:01:03] I'm trying to make the links on the sidebar go directly to category pages [01:05:48] ** Category:Foo|Foo [01:08:17] uhmm [01:09:27] :) [01:09:45] or I could use the include page function [01:10:56] it's a bit confusing to have two titles, h1 displaying "category: name" and h2 displaying "found xxx pages in yyyy" [01:12:33] do what now? [01:13:01] *OverlordQ 's thoughts exactly [01:17:19] doesn't sound like vanilla mediawiki anyway [01:17:44] the "include page" function doesn't work for categories, and won't let you add links to the sidebar [01:18:30] wikia mediawiki [01:19:17] #wikia [01:30:45] anyone know how to get a checkerboard backround for images? [01:30:58] on wikipedia, I tried changing the renderer, didn't work [01:31:11] it is a CSS property [01:31:18] how is it changed? [01:31:27] via CSS [01:31:35] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [01:31:37] do you know what to type and where to put it? [01:31:56] /* Put a chequered background behind images, only visible if they have transparency */ [01:31:58] .gallerybox .thumb img, #file img { background: white url("http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5d/Checker-16x16.png") repeat;} [01:32:04] go to that bit on Common.css [01:32:08] thanks [01:32:14] put it on your own MediaWiki:Common.css [01:32:39] you probably want the bit after it too "/* But not on articles, user pages, portals or with opt-out. */" [01:33:19] you also probably want to download the image and upload it locally and refer to it by a local link, rather than hotlink [01:35:26] alright [01:39:00] not working [01:54:37] *Daworm waves [01:58:30] Splarka or even Emufarmers, either of you two able to possibly direct me to one or two "critical" bug fixes ? I did find one, but need to find more (ideally 2) that I can go "ha HAR!" [02:00:26] trying to get commit access? [02:00:44] oh, trying to get server dev to upgrade [02:00:45] right [02:00:59] there was an XSS, but it was introduced in 1.14 and fixed in 1.15, won't help you [02:01:53] snap >.< [02:02:27] in what versions? [02:02:45] he wants server admin to upgrade from 1.13 to 1.15 [02:02:57] so he needs critical fixes in 1.14 and 1.15 [02:03:59] Server Admin (who is also game lead dev (small dev team IE: 4)) said he doesn't see a "need" to upgrade from 1.13 to 1.15. I would like it, as there is at least one functionality I'd love to use with images. Means no CSS hacking for me to do what I want. [02:04:22] Just need to find some critical fixes (even if it's a 1.14 fix) that I can turn around and use as convincing to do the quarterly updates. [02:09:31] what css hack is that? [02:10:32] can't really find anything in core, do you use the ImageMap extension? [02:10:50] no you actually can link images now [02:11:25] which is I assume what he wants [02:11:44] !imagelink [02:11:44] --mwbot-- In MW1.14+: you can use the new 'link' parameter [[Image:Foo.png|link=Bar]] | Before that, image linking was intentionally not supported in MediaWiki, so access to the image's description page was always available. If you need image links, see for methods and information. [02:11:56] ^ the css hacks in that last link [02:12:15] which suck [02:12:31] *MrZ-man was referring to the imagemap xss fixed in 1.14 [02:14:05] oh right [02:14:21] seemed related to his desires tho, so confusing [02:14:32] Annemarie is confusing [02:14:52] You're confusing. [02:24:41] browser locked up >.< [02:25:06] Ok, I asked this but don't know if it got through... does the intructions on this page. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Email_authentication_before_editing . still apply in 1.13 and up? [02:28:02] huh, hadn't seen this before: http://www.nabble.com/Username-antispoof-extension-enabled-td6849499.html [02:28:59] <_piken> hey all [02:29:14] <_piken> anyone in here familar with moving from postgres 8.1 to 8.3? [02:29:59] dump your database, sans the tsearch stuff in public, upgrade, re-import [02:30:24] <_piken> I have been trying to do that, but not one guide online is seeming to help [02:30:31] repost; PHP 5.1.6, Centos 5.3 x64, MediaWiki installed via ATrpms, mediawiki-1.15.1, eAccelerator installed via 'yum install php-eaccelerator' which installed eaccelerator-5.1.6_0.9.5.2, phpinfo() shows eAccelerator support enabled, MW shows: "Couldn't find Turck MMCache, eAccelerator, APC or XCache; cannot use these for object caching." Any ideas on how to fix this? I know it's more a MW issue, but I thought to give it a shot her [02:30:46] <_piken> I have even gone for dumping the schema and then trying to dump data only and can't [02:31:54] <_piken> the dump of the data from 8.1 is giving this error every time [02:31:55] <_piken> pg_dump: ERROR: could not access file "$libdir/tsearch2": No such file or directory [02:32:02] <_piken> I cant figure out how to get away from it [02:35:11] hurm - I was going to look at getting the sys admin to turn on SORBS proxy check. However update as of today : An announcement will be made regarding the purchase of SORBS in the near future. Please be patient. [02:35:24] I hope SORBS stays as it is free and open and not paid for... [02:35:42] SORBS is horrible [02:36:04] it is ? [02:38:17] they have horrible listing policies, horrible people to work with, and removal is even worse [02:40:04] mm - I'm just looking at all the default configuation options available with a MW install that I can get the sysadmin to set to either give more functionality or protect against spam. [02:41:45] !psam | Daworm [02:41:45] --mwbot-- Daworm: I don't know anything about "psam". [02:41:49] !spam | Daworm [02:41:49] --mwbot-- Daworm: For information about combating and handling spam in MediaWiki, see and . [02:42:47] second link needs to be updated. Telling me to go to mediawiki to view it is ... double-handling :) [02:43:34] *MrZ-man updates [03:06:24] *Daworm found another awesome functionality to quote the sys admin [03:06:30] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RevisionDelete [03:06:32] 1.14 :) [03:21:05] To confirm. The Autoconfirm group allows users to create new pages yes? [03:21:57] So if I set the AutoConfirmAge and/or AutoConfirmCount (say 10 minutes and/or 1 day respectively) then until users pass these given settings, they can only edit existing pages? [03:22:10] That's up to you [03:22:13] you have to restrict creation to autoconfirm first [03:22:19] someone !userrights him [03:22:30] you're a userrights him. [03:22:42] lol I did see something about this elsewhere, I'm just searching the Manual for variables and looking from there :) [03:22:46] wow, river used a meme [03:22:52] *Splarka faints [03:25:23] hurm. EmailConfirmed was taken out after 1.13 ? [03:25:59] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights says 1.7 - 1.13 so I read that as it was only available in those versions. [03:35:44] Daworm: looks like it was [03:35:56] but you can re-add it [03:35:58] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/33800 [03:36:04] +* Removed the emailconfirmed implicit group by default. To re-add it, use: [03:36:04] + $wgAutopromote['emailconfirmed'] = APCOND_EMAILCONFIRMED; [03:36:04] + in your LocalSettings.php. [03:38:58] ah tytyty [03:39:25] I may just leave that as off then. As they've had some mailserver issues with delays a couple of times. [03:40:33] On that note: perhaps this page updated: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgEmailConfirmToEdit to refer to the fact EmailConfirmed was removed by default? [03:42:12] mw documentation out of date? that's unpossible [03:44:52] there [03:45:12] er [03:45:21] |version_max=1.12 [03:45:25] > Removed in version: 1.12 [03:45:36] that is not semantic [03:46:02] sigh [03:53:31] 03dale * r55645 10/trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/libAddMedia/ (4 files in 2 dirs): * improved inline AMW upload [04:24:20] 03siebrand * r55646 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/Translate.php: Enable JS edit by default [04:37:33] One last thing. Big thanks to Emufarmers for giving me a starter point in the right direction the other day :) [04:37:59] o; [04:38:35] You're welcome [04:38:37] *Emufarmers rubs it in Splarka's face [04:38:47] haha [04:38:52] lol [04:38:56] Thank you Emufarmers. [04:39:35] Mind you, I've learnt a lot about mediawiki in trying to push my point accross with the sys admin :) [04:43:56] Back to question though. With the logo if I set : {$wgStylePath}/common/images/wiki.png as : {$wgStylePath}/common/images/wiki_logo.png ... can I think just upload an image to "wiki_logo.png" and it will reflect properly? Or do I need to point directly to the file upload to the webserver? IE: /wiki/images/6/60/wiki_logo.png or whatever it is as appropriate. [04:44:45] thank you Emufarmers [04:46:11] You don't have to upload the image through the wiki [04:48:05] I realised that, but will that still work in the way I mention? [04:48:44] Keep in mind I'm working from limited access so if I can update the wiki_logo.png and have it change on the wiki via the wiki itself (if that makes sense) then all the more better if declaring the logo as /common/images/wiki_logo.png [04:49:21] thank you Emufarmers [04:49:25] v: [04:49:34] Just I saw on another page earlier that you can link the full URL of the image itself when it's uploaded to the wiki. Means less pestering to the sys admin/lead game dev. :) [04:50:11] Daworm: many wikis do change the logo to point to an upload path, allowing easy changes [04:50:12] Set the logo as /images/6/60/wiki_logo.png or whatever it is as appropriate, then [04:50:47] Splarka: I realise that was wiki.png is overwritten on wiki updates :) [04:50:54] Emufarmers: thanks. I'll get the full path set then. [04:59:07] who do I pester about log_search :D [05:02:25] The log search for this channel? Annemarie. [05:02:48] I think he was talking about the database field? [05:02:55] the table yes [05:02:58] :( [05:03:13] but, thank you anyways Emufarmers [05:03:20] You're welcome :D [05:05:37] i think you should pester Annemarie about log_search, it would be funny [05:07:00] I have no idea what it is. [05:07:03] So ask away. [05:14:06] Why does special revision delete specify a group by ls_log_id on the log_search table since as far as I can tell a new log id is generated for every action so a group by on that column is both pointless and bad SQL [05:14:10] ;) [05:14:33] I recommend blaming Aaron [05:14:49] I blame mysql for allowing it ;) [05:18:17] since you shouldn't be doing SELECT $foo,$bar GROUP BY $foo [05:19:27] why not? [05:20:41] select x,count(y) from t group by x; [05:21:51] that's fine, but putting fields in select that are not aggregated or in your group by is bad [05:24:39] except in this case it's doing a select on 13 fields across 4 tables and throws GROUP BY at the end. [06:04:23] sup people [06:04:26] can someone help me out? [06:04:34] i want to have a huge text size [06:04:43] how can i do it? [06:50:07] Is there a way to add outside links to MW:Sidebar? [06:50:26] Yes [06:50:31] !sidebar | Neurotiquette [06:50:31] --mwbot-- Neurotiquette: To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . [06:52:09] hehe emu you answer 99% of my questions. i appreciate it [06:52:56] Hah, Splarka has been demoted to 1% [06:53:23] http://toolserver.org/~mzmcbride/cgi-bin/mw-logs.py?search=%3CNeurotiquette%3E.*? [06:53:27] you haven't asked 100 questions [07:04:16] http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Magic_words&diff=273341&oldid=272581 oh Jidanni, how do I hate thee, let me count the ways [07:15:01] done counting yet? [07:17:58] hi Splarka [07:18:02] mew [07:21:02] goodmoaning [07:21:05] ^_^ [07:39:00] so, I've got a "Latest news"-box on my main page. it references a Template:News-page, but I don't know how to put a limit to how many news-items I want to present on the main page. [07:39:04] anyone have a clue? [07:40:28] Y'aint bein' ignored. I'm just clueless. [07:40:47] =)) [07:41:39] gamla_kossan: you can either you DPL (I think that's what it is) or just have a small section that is set with a around it, with commented instructions to ONLY have a certain amount of updates in the include section. [07:42:05] DPL requires additional extensions and I have nfi on the structure to setup for it. The alternative is just a matter of default wiki features. [07:43:00] um, DPL? [07:43:03] what's that? [07:43:15] overkill [07:43:27] indeed [07:43:35] so just go with the idea. [07:44:29] See : http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns2/wiki/index.php/Game_News : for how I set it up on the NS2 wiki. It's simple and nothing SUPER flash, but it gets the job done while I have to wait for sys admin to put some extensions on for me. [07:44:35] hm.. still, I'd rather not use , as that would require my users to learn how to use it if they want to enter new newsitems (well, that is if I've understood it correctly) [07:44:48] Daworm: thanks =) [07:44:50] you could just dig up a less insane extension [07:44:56] You're insane. [07:45:00] *Daworm agrees [07:45:04] welcome gamla_kossan [07:45:04] maybe http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:VariablesExtension could be what you need [07:45:05] :) [07:45:15] If it's low traffic though, no extension needed. [07:45:29] that would count how many sections had been added already, and grab more until reaching the limit [07:45:32] If it's high-traffic something more user-friendly and funkier looking might be called for. [07:45:45] well, it's very low traffic actually. maybe 10 users. [07:46:06] Yeah - simple include idea is all you need :) [07:46:35] But with that Splarka you also need: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions (which I recommend anyway gamla_kossan as it allows you some easy and nice looking templating [07:47:09] anyways - hometime for mee! [07:47:10] argh, I should _really_ read up on mediawiki. [07:47:13] Daworm: =)) [07:47:14] *Daworm scoots [07:47:15] hehe [07:47:23] what is mediawiki? [07:47:23] Daworm: have a great weekend =) [07:47:24] it doesn't hurt to read up on it. [07:47:33] I think it's a lollypop Splarka [07:47:50] it's a bit... what do you call it.. [07:48:36] gamla_kossan: good start is this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Contents I was scouring it most of today looking for little tweaks and settings I want set and sent a large e-mail to the sys admin to get some changes made :) [07:48:42] *Daworm scoots for real now [07:48:53] mediawiki is a bit fooling - looks really easy at first, only to reveal it's way more powerful if you look a little further. [07:49:24] heh [07:50:02] btw: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Intersection [07:50:51] very simple version of DPL (what DPL was before getting forked and insanely "upgraded" to unusability) [07:51:15] but you'd have to make each news item a separate subpage [07:52:05] "what DPL was before getting forked and insanely "upgraded" to unusability [07:52:06] " [07:52:07] =))) [07:52:23] duh [08:25:40] can I use Special:RecentChanges only for a certain page, ie not for the whole wiki? [08:25:55] click history on the article page [08:25:55] (s/page/namespace/ ?) [08:26:00] oh [08:26:12] see the namespace dropdown menu? [08:26:16] on Special:Recentchanges? [08:26:22] yea [08:26:28] not you [08:26:31] hehe [08:26:36] *Splarka bites Q [08:26:46] was saying yea @ that's the proper way [08:26:55] so "yea, that" rather [08:28:08] um.. but..... [08:28:26] what now? not toned-down enough? not brutal enough? not Metal enough? [08:28:32] thanks again Emufarmers! [08:28:43] it's not that I want to actually see the recent changes, it's more like, I want to present the info on my main page [08:28:48] ;_; [08:28:48] Splarka: yeah, not metal enough =) [08:29:02] hmmm [08:30:21] looks like the only slash parameter that it accepts is the limit [08:30:48] so, no way to embed it [08:30:50] ah. [08:31:02] odd that Special:Newpages accepts a load of parameters [08:31:10] {{Special:Newpages}} rather [08:31:19] but you could use that [08:31:45] huh. sure, why not [08:31:56] {{Special:Newpages/namespace=User/10}} [08:32:02] oops [08:32:18] {{Special:Newpages/namespace=User}} [08:32:28] uhhuh [08:32:40] the videos at prototype are borked or don't play with mplayer [08:32:52] :( [08:33:23] yeah, borked [08:34:47] yea that's weird, /me wonders why RC doesn't have a namespace slashies [08:36:28] hmm [08:36:30] not all of them [08:36:45] dbpedia and wikiprint [08:39:47] Hi all :) Does the UNC links extension works on MW 1.15.1 and FF3.5 ? [08:40:55] Links works with FF3.5 and MW 1.13.3 but not the new version.. What sould i do ? [08:42:31] what UNC links extension? [08:43:29] to allow UNC link in wiki like : file:///server/share/file.txt [08:43:46] what extension? [08:43:50] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/UNC_links [08:43:56] that isn't an extension [08:44:25] meh, who wrote that page [08:44:25] yeah.. something to add on a wiki if you prefer [08:44:33] you don't need string functions [08:44:41] its a question ? [08:44:44] {{#if:{{{2|}}}|{{{2}}}}} [08:44:49] *facepalm* [08:44:54] i have installed String and ParserFunctions [08:45:33] can you link to your wiki? [08:46:32] ok i'm installing pppoe :) [08:46:56] can you show the HTML generated by "[file:///folder/file.ext thing]" in both 1.15 and 1.13? shouldn't have changed, but possibly one of those unneeded extensions has [08:49:20] no, HTML doesn't change [08:50:02] right, so one of those extensions is probably outdated [08:50:16] you probably want to get the latest version of them, or rather, not use them where you don't need them [08:50:31] {{#if:{{{2|}}}|{{{2}}}}} -> {{{2|}}} [08:51:44] I took that http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/tags/REL1_15_1/extensions/ParserFunctions/ [08:52:18] poks [08:52:46] and that http://upload.wikimedia.org/ext-dist/StringFunctions-MW1.15-r47913.tar.gz [08:53:48] should work then [08:53:54] debug it piecemeal [08:54:28] {{#replace:{{#replace:\\ComputerName\Shared Folder\Resource Name| |%20}}|\|/}} [08:54:37] file:///{{#replace:{{#replace:\\ComputerName\Shared Folder\Resource Name| |%20}}|\|/}} [08:54:40] what do those produce? [09:01:55] "//ComputerName/Shared%20Folder/Resource%20Name " [09:01:57] and [09:02:32] "file://///ComputerName/Shared%20Folder/Resource%20Name" in hyperlink [09:03:03] same thing in 1.13 and 1.15? [09:03:32] ugha [09:05:38] in 1.13 i have a frame around the last link [09:06:32] sounds like css, but the link is the same? [09:10:25] yeah , i wrote "{{unc | \\10.1.0.178\informatique\Commun\Congés\plop.txt | link}}" [09:11:27] so what doesn't work? [09:13:39] in 1.13 i clik i have my file, in 1.15 i click and nothing appear [09:14:19] right, so what is the difference? [09:14:25] paste the HTML for both? [09:16:30] 1.15 : The resource The resource [09:17:56] 1.13: The resource //ComputerName/Shared%20Folder/Resource%20Name [09:19:10] er, what is that file://///10.1.0.7/Drop/plop.txt business? [09:19:42] another link [09:20:21] its on of my share on my computer [09:20:23] k, well, the html looks identical, no? so not a mediawiki prob [09:20:52] ok :/ [09:21:17] links works with IETAB on the both version [09:24:20] 1. [09:24:24] oups [09:24:46] 1.13 is on 2003Server and 1.15 on a slackware fresh install [09:25:08] suggest you ask firefox peeps [09:25:25] file:/// has certain restrictions, like same origin and crap [09:27:28] yes.. i created a user.js with some lines in order to allow unc link to work on FF [09:27:54] i dont know what the difference [09:29:38] check your error console [09:30:04] hi all! the column order for some tables differs between tables.sql and postgres_tables.sql... [09:30:38] where is it ? [09:30:51] Tools>>Error Console [09:31:22] which is correct? or do intentionally choose to have a different order on MySQL and PosrtgreSQL? [09:45:47] security error for my link in the FF error console [09:51:14] OverlordQ it speaks to you? [09:51:42] Erreur de sécurité : le contenu situé à http://10.1.1.36/mediawiki/index.php/Accueil ne peut pas charger de données ou établir un lien vers file://///10.1.1.7/Drop/plop.txt. [09:51:49] in french sorry :/ [10:01:19] only thing I can suggest is check to be sure you added the right server address to prefs [10:01:27] since it's a FF issue and not MW, not much to tell you [10:03:21] On mediawiki, is it normal for redirect pages to be exempt from user monobook.js pages? [10:04:47] check your error console [10:05:35] on pref.js i have this line: user_pref("capability.policy.localfilelinks.sites", "http://10.1.0.178"); [10:06:11] that's not the site mediawiki is on [10:06:18] no [10:06:23] so of course that wont work [10:06:43] why ? my another MW is on 10.1.1.36 [10:06:54] because that's not the site you clicked the link from [10:06:55] i have to configure samba or something else ? [10:07:41] unc link should work with all machine on the network no ? [10:07:45] no [10:07:53] you have to enable file links on a per site basis [10:07:54] whaaaaayyyyy :) [10:08:17] how can i make that ? [10:08:33] not a clue, ask in #firefox #mozilla or whatever their support options are [10:09:23] ok [10:09:54] thanks for everything Splarka and OverlordQ :) [10:10:25] be right back, go to lunch :P [10:48:35] Hi. I'm looking for a feature for sending user-to-user messages within mediawiki. There is a user on my wiki that is active but has no e-mail set and she apparaently does not follow the talk pages on documents she is editing. Does such a feature exist? [10:49:11] req^: why not just enforce email addresses instead? [10:49:19] evening [10:49:19] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_talk_page [10:49:53] hard to ignore "you have new messages" [10:49:54] gamla_kossan: I've thought about that, but for now I've wanted to keep all information as optional as possible [10:50:06] Splarka: I'll have a look at that, thanks [10:50:24] bah, that's not a manual, just a guideline [10:50:40] basically, click the (talk) link by her username that appears everywhere [10:51:05] which timezone is used for timestamps within the database? [10:51:53] babilen: just a guess really, but I'd guess the one the server's set to. [10:53:22] Splarka: Yeah, that looks about exactly what I was looking for, cheers. [10:54:27] gamla_kossan: hmm, so no sane default like UTC? too bad, that prevents time sequence research on WP data [10:54:43] babilen: honestly, I odn't have a clue. [10:55:03] gamla_kossan: alright... i'll ask again later :-D [10:55:14] =) or you could check the database. [10:56:01] gamla_kossan: which database? they do not set a timezone in the Table definitions [10:56:08] babilen: it should be utc [10:57:09] *babilen grins like a cheshire cat. Cool! [10:58:58] hehe [11:00:26] ok thanks for the (hoped for) answer and until later... [11:06:24] i'm upgrading an old wiki (1.9.2) that had a modification that called wfImageDir('image.png')... what should it use in 1.15.1, as it seems there is no such function anymore? [11:25:30] um [11:25:42] say I'd want to take a look at the css file for mediawiki.org [11:25:48] is this possible? [11:25:56] *gamla_kossan doesn't remember his html classes.. [11:26:28] use safari or firebug. [11:26:53] much easier, because there are quite a few css files. [11:27:06] oh [11:27:19] thanks =) [11:30:21] *Splarka pokles thedj with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Catalogue_of_CSS_classes [11:30:28] I know you've seen it, you just edited the talk page [11:32:10] hehe [11:33:32] argh..... I just want nice boxes ;_; [11:33:42] is that so much to ask for? I mean really? [11:33:55] *gamla_kossan sets css on fire [11:34:01] *gamla_kossan goes for a smoke [11:41:15] just wondering if how i can get the path to 'Image.png' in 1.15.1 [11:45:33] I have installed MediaWiki on my SourceForge project. I am trying to limit editing of pages to those logged in. I found some code at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_editing_of_an_entire_namespace. But I don't know where to put it. [11:47:02] WillPittenger: LocalSettings.php [11:47:20] Is there access to that from the MediaWiki pages? [11:48:11] afaik, you have to edit it from a shell [11:48:27] at least via FTP [11:48:34] on the server [11:48:37] I don't have access to the server itself. Maybe FTP. [11:52:32] peder $file->getFullURL(); maybe? [11:52:57] What is that? [11:57:04] Splarka: "peder" on Wikipedia redirects to a page on the Apostle Peter. [11:58:20] peder: in the Wiki itself or per php code? [11:58:54] Raymond_: I searched for "peder" as I had no clue what Splarka was referring to. [11:59:02] STFU noob [12:06:23] Just heard back from the SourceForge people. They currently don't provide access to LocalSettings.php. However, the Wiki does require membership to edit pages. [12:07:03] Now if I can find a way to let me embed SVG rather than letting them be converted to PNG... I need some JS in them and want to use the SVGs as demos. [12:10:55] gamla_kossan: which nice boxes would that be? [12:11:54] Raymond_: in php, i need to check if the image is uploaded (and on disk), and then set a variable to the url [12:12:18] So that is what peder is... [12:12:24] Sorry. [12:12:40] peder: see Splarka's answer above. but not tested by me :) [12:13:44] see http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/File.php?view=co&content-type=text%2Fplain [12:14:12] getUrl(), getFullUrl(), getViewURL(), getPath(),. etc [12:14:19] ok [12:15:12] but then i need to make a repo-object of some kind first i guess? [12:15:51] probably [12:16:47] hmmm... wonder how i should do that... [12:18:26] $img = wfLocalFile( $fileName ); maybe? dunno [12:19:10] anyone around to give me a hand with a MySql query? [12:29:03] Splarka: http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Commit_access_requests&diff=272845&oldid=270672 \o/ [12:33:21] heh [12:42:14] p858snake: you know, like the hub boxes on mediawiki.org [12:42:19] working on it now though. [12:42:50] no i don't yeally [12:42:52] *really [12:43:31] right, www.mediawiki.org - the boxes, one for users, one for sysadmins, and one for devs [12:43:42] they look so good, I wants them.. I needs them. [12:43:43] ^_^ [12:43:53] Userboxes? [12:44:09] Oh [12:44:54] gamla_kossan: [[Special:Export]] [12:47:10] They're just tables [12:47:18] Reedy: yeah [12:50:17] baaaaaaaaaah [12:50:31] stupid colleagues and their wanting to eat cake and drink coffee all the time [12:50:42] I actually _want_ to work :/ [12:51:33] Oh, let them eat cake. [12:54:59] I don't suppose it is possible to allow or . Those tags would help. [12:55:18] As noted earlier, I need to demo some SVGs with interactive features. [13:06:33] 03raymond * r55647 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (26 files): Localisation updates for core messages from translatewiki.net (2009-08-26 12:55 UTC) [13:17:52] *gamla_kossan sets html on fire [13:18:32] Is there an automated test for mediawiki? I'm upgrading a few steps and would like to have a comprensive test before rolling it out to our users.. [13:19:11] code tests, yes [13:19:16] otherwise, dont think so [13:20:41] ok.. I'll have to do some manual checklists then.. Our mediawiki is all segmented into modules and packaged into RPM's.. So each extension is an RPM and I'm not 100% sure they all work :) [13:22:15] Usually, browsing a few pages, checking special pages for errors is a good indication [13:23:04] Also check PHP/Apache error log. [13:23:36] Ya, the error log is riddled with a botched install of SMW.. which I was given from the previous person... [13:23:45] But other then that seems good.. [13:23:56] Why faff with rpm's, really? [13:24:37] Reedy: it's the way we do things at my employeer.. [13:24:52] seems pointless extra work ;) [13:26:51] Reedy: well, yes and no, the initial setup is, but once everything is done I can build a mediawiki install from nothing to full functioning in 5 minutes. Most of which is untaring the images and DB. It also make sure that everything can be recreated if someone else leaves... [13:31:20] avar: around? [13:32:08] just read the email.. it looks like the i18n solution for plurals is lacking.. can you elaborate? [13:40:01] Nikerabbit: http://guides.rubyonrails.org/i18n.html#pluralization [13:40:03] 03raymond * r55648 10/trunk/extensions/ (96 files in 85 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-08-28 13:10 UTC) [13:40:40] Basically you can have a key "say_nodes" with the content "You have {{count}} nodes" [13:41:31] But then people can delete that key iff it has a {{count}} key and add a "say_nodes.one", "say_nodes.two", "say_nodes.other" or whatever keys [13:41:53] Which can have the values "YOu have one nodes" "you have two nodes" "you have any number of other nodes" [13:42:08] This is how all rails apps that use rails-i18n do plural forms [13:45:18] I know this has some silly implications for you since you have a 1:1 mapping between original keys and wiki pages in translatewiki [13:45:29] hence the suggestion for a workaround [13:51:33] I am looking at an xml file that starts with: Where can i find the details of this file format? It seems its split into pages with [13:51:59] any other main tabs that i should care/know about? [13:52:07] its plain xml afaik [13:52:21] you can reimport it into a mediawiki install using [[Special:Import]] [13:52:52] Thanks. I am trying to parse it using python [13:53:01] And extract the page links of each page. [13:53:56] It actually starts with a tag which has . Where can i find the details of these tags and how they are used in the xml? [13:54:27] This is what it looks like: http://pastebin.com/d6f126843 [13:54:32] what should i dot to make the browser go to the mediawiki install folder directly instead of the root document folder? [13:55:22] magicblaze007: There's a schema for that, hang on [13:55:39] c3l: Do you have access to the web server config (httpd.conf)? [13:55:51] RoanKattouw: yes [13:56:06] magicblaze007: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/docs/export-0.3.xsd?view=markup [13:56:40] c3l: Then you can do it in there somehow, I don't really now how to (sorry, I thought I did) [13:57:08] RoanKattouw: okay :) at least i know what to configure, where is this file located? [14:01:02] /etc/apache2/httpd.conf usually [14:15:29] RoanKattouw: Thanks [14:17:00] avar: and it is silly too because it doesn't work for most of the languages(!) [14:20:59] avar: oh, you forgot to mention the algorithm [14:25:01] Nikerabbit: Why wouldn't it work for most languages? [14:31:02] avar: never mind,... I'll reply to the email with my proposed solution [14:31:32] http://google.com/codesearch/p?hl=en&sa=N&cd=1&ct=rc#_PlIwJBaviA/vendor/rails/activesupport/lib/active_support/vendor/i18n-0.1.3/lib/i18n/backend/simple.rb&q=InvalidPluralizationData [14:31:44] It looks like you can implement language-specific keys by subclassing that [14:32:00] so you can have :one, :other, :twenty, :five_billion_and_one or whatever [14:33:16] http://api.rubyonrails.org/classes/I18n/Backend/Simple.html#M002603 [14:44:41] *sigh* [14:45:13] I wish html was replaced with something else. something that wasn't so forgiving and said "DOES NOT COMPUTE" when things don't work like they should. [14:50:38] gamla_kossan: what? [15:01:49] gamla_kossan: that's xhtml 1.1, but everyone hated it [15:12:45] 03raymond * r55649 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [15:12:45] Remove translations of "www.example.com" messages. example.com/.net/.org are the one and only official example URls. [15:12:45] Mark them as ignored for translatewiki [15:15:53] 03siebrand * r55650 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) [15:15:53] Remove a few language codes that were 'supported' without any localisation. Have [15:15:53] no known projects that use localisation for them. Language support could be [15:15:53] re-added if a sufficient localisation level would be reached in [15:15:53] translatewiki.net. Were added in r28537 or r28572. [15:15:56] * Easter Yiddish (ydd) [15:15:58] * Palembang (plm) [15:19:56] hi Duesentrieb_ [15:20:09] hi Nikerabbit [15:42:54] about category pages. Are they restricted to the default list by alphabetic order scheme, with alphabet letters headings? [15:43:38] Is it possible to change the style of category pages, lists, headings, in css? [15:48:13] 03siebrand * r55651 10/trunk/extensions/WikiAtHome/ (WikiAtHome.i18n.php WikiAtHome.js): [15:48:13] * update messages in JavaScript and PHP [15:48:13] * add FIXME: need messages file for JS message [16:22:44] RoanKattouw: you said "sucky" [16:29:01] Nikerabbit: Where did I say sucky? [16:33:29] RoanKattouw: two times! [16:33:35] RoanKattouw: in your presentation [16:37:36] Nikerabbit: In what context again? The docs? [16:38:02] 03catrope * r55652 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiBase.php: API: BREAKING CHANGE: (bug 20426) Instead of throwing an error when a limit is set too high/low, throw a warning and continue with the limit set to the maximum/minimum [16:38:35] hi all. is rev_len used? i can't find it within the WP database dumps... [16:40:34] RoanKattouw: yep [16:46:07] babilen, yes, it's used. [16:46:29] It probably doesn't exist for old rows. [16:48:20] AryehGregor: hmm, is it something like ... 42 ... ? [16:48:30] I don't know, I've never used the dumps. [16:49:08] maybe they don't write it into the XML dumps... i'll try to find it. [16:49:13] what is it used for? [16:49:44] is it important, or OK if all rows have NULL for that value? (same for parent_id) [16:50:11] It's probably not critical, it just displays some extra info on the history page. [16:50:38] werdna: Why does http://wiki.werdn.us/test/view/Talk:Main_Page show me a Delete link when I'm anon? [17:07:46] 03siebrand * r55653 10/trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/php/languages/mwEmbed.i18n.php: Localisation updates for core JavaScript messages from translatewiki.net [17:17:39] RoanKattouw: who is the new guy in ui team? [17:18:03] Nikerabbit: Nimish Gautam [17:18:15] He was hired in late July / early August [17:18:21] (SVN: nimishg) [17:18:25] :o [17:18:30] ten languages? [17:18:39] Maybe not literally [17:19:04] But he's American, his parents are from Nepal so he speaks Nepalese, and he's lived in Germany so he speaks German very well [17:19:14] Plus he's a linguistics geek so he knows stuff about lots of languages [17:19:54] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Nimish_Gautam :E :o [17:19:55] I know a rabbi who speaks seven languages. Spanish, Hebrew, Yiddish, Aramaic, English, French, German, Italian. Something like that. (That's eight. Maybe he doesn't speak French, or Aramaic isn't counted.) [17:20:13] (Practically no one actually *speaks* Aramaic.) [17:20:33] I speak a modest five languages ^^ [17:20:40] *Nikerabbit watches the wikimania videos of random quality [17:20:54] I speak only two languages well :/ [17:21:01] Heh [17:21:16] I speak ~1.5. [17:21:24] need to put some effor to get the rest to better level [17:21:27] Hello, i've a problem with my wiki, is this the place to ask? [17:21:36] Oi3pRNnX: yes [17:21:49] Brion says: "So all these servers went: 'oh man, I gotta render the Michael Jackson page, and then store it in cache so nobody will have to render it ever again!', but then a hundred servers did that at the same time." [17:22:30] ok, i've posted this one on mwusers but i get no Replies for one weak here is the link: http://www.mwusers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12006 [17:23:14] RoanKattouw: does naoko speak japanese? [17:23:33] Yes [17:23:55] Actually she lived in Japan for the first 20 or so years of her life [17:24:20] RoanKattouw: and born? [17:24:28] I think so yes [17:24:35] the name hints so [17:26:03] Oi3pRNnX: no other messages when you run update.php? [17:26:26] AryehGregor: I assume the .5 one is Hebrew? [17:26:30] RoanKattouw, yeah. [17:26:34] no... it's also was before a long time.... [17:26:39] I guess I could add like 0.1 for Aramaic. [17:27:00] so i can't remember alot... [17:27:10] Oi3pRNnX: can you try latest version? [17:27:37] latest version? which one is it? do i need to run update.php again? [17:27:44] *RoanKattouw adds some tenths for Swedish and .01 for Spanish [17:28:11] I could add 0.1 for like ten different languages. [17:28:14] Er, 0.01. [17:28:23] I can totally sort of halfway read some Latin. [17:28:44] I usually add -1 if I have studied language for 100 hours or more [17:28:54] and not forgotten everything [17:37:41] Nikerabbit: yeah, atm it's like if I break my html code I still get a result, although a result that doesn't really make a lot of sense. [17:37:57] Nikerabbit: I just wish it was a little bit more unforgiving [17:39:18] gamla_kossan> do you experienced the same problem? [17:41:23] ugga [17:42:10] any ideas? [17:42:35] can you show the full update log somewhere? [17:43:51] i don't have it... [17:45:29] you can rerun update.php [17:46:00] OK, i'll try that and post the full log here but only tomorow... [17:47:08] if update.php is rerun perhaps not all errors as previously are showed... [17:47:46] 03midom * r55654 10/trunk/phase3/includes/OutputHandler.php: [17:47:46] sweet spot for compression, per: [17:47:46] * http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=t-EjyzEfh0t39hoQbf-a5fw [17:54:48] 03catrope * r55655 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (archives/patch-change_tag-indexes.sql updaters.inc): Add a patch file for the index change in r47488 [17:59:08] 03tstarling * r55656 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/MessageCache.php languages/Language.php): [17:59:08] Reverted breakage of non-ASCII message keys, Domas says that's not allowed. Optimised Language::lcfirst and Language::ucfirst() instead. [17:59:08] Timings in microseconds for ASCII no-change, ASCII change, non-ASCII no-change, non-ASCII change: [17:59:08] lcfirst: 1.8, 3.6, 21.2, 22.1 [17:59:08] ucfirst: 1.5, 2.3, 21.1, 21.7 [18:00:04] what do I say?!!!? [18:00:06] :) [18:04:39] breakage is not allowed or non-ascii keys? [18:04:55] 03ialex * r55657 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [18:04:55] * (bug 19055) maintenance/rebuildrecentchanges.php now purges Special:Recentchanges's RSS and Atom feed cache [18:04:55] Purging cache timestamps should be sufficient since it won't allow cached versions to be used. [18:04:55] Also fix some errors in docs/memcached.txt. [18:04:55] Based on a patch by Jidanni - http://bug-attachment.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=6187 [18:06:20] what is a good library/code to parse mediawiki xml dumps? [18:07:37] any xml librarry [18:08:34] any xml library that does not try to load the tree into memory [18:08:37] that is not buggy *couch* [18:08:51] domas: librarrrr [18:10:12] 03nikerabbit * r55658 10/trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (libEmbedVideo/embedVideo.js php/languages/mwEmbed.i18n.php): Fix typo reported at twn [18:11:38] rrrrr [18:11:42] rrrrrrrrrr [18:13:00] sssss [18:13:03] ssssssssss [18:13:38] so, anyone know what happened with wikibugs? [18:16:02] we fixed all bugs [18:17:45] *thedj summons the bugzilla bot [18:26:49] AryehGregor: is opera still misinterpreting projection? [18:26:55] Nikerabbit, yes. [18:27:11] and are not going to change? [18:28:04] brion discussed this with them did he not ? [18:28:12] it's somewhere in the bugticket. [18:29:26] bashttps://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18497 [18:32:08] bashttps is an interestinh protocol [18:37:35] Nikerabbit, there was a discussion on www-style. It died out with no resolution. [18:37:43] bah [18:37:48] "You're wrong, fix it" [18:38:15] However, it turns out that recent Opera will only be buggy if there's at least one thing on the page with media type projection. [18:38:22] So I removed all the projection from trunk. [18:38:37] It should now work without problems, until the next "screen,projection" someone adds. [18:38:46] (except in Opera < 9, too bad for them) [18:52:32] avar looks funny :o [18:52:49] avar: are you slides somewhere? [18:55:22] Nikerabbit: linked from http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/%C3%86var%20Arnfj%C3%B6r%C3%B0%20Bjarmason/diary/7703 [19:22:17] I created a user acct as sysop on 1.15.1, and user gets email, but no password is renerated or required as I expected. Must I assign the password myself? [19:28:51] never mind - I missed the "by email" button [19:31:19] hi rainman-sr [19:31:30] hello nike [19:32:09] undefined index in "rainman-sr": 0 [19:32:22] 03btongminh * r55659 10/trunk/phase3/includes/GlobalFunctions.php: Fix wfShellBackgroundExec for windows. Works in maintenance/eval.php mode, have not tested when running php as webserver module. [19:32:32] hehe you come in just in time :) [19:33:14] oh yes [19:36:18] is that werdna? [19:41:06] where? [19:41:11] he is here somewhere [19:41:39] rainman-sr: in the lightning talks [19:42:18] oh yes, in the second session, also in usability and codeathlon update [19:42:35] no videos of those? [19:44:19] will be [19:44:48] I watched the session of naoko [19:49:01] no it was in the second session me thinks [20:03:50] Nikerabbit: I'm here [20:12:58] hi JeroenDeDauw [20:19:59] how do I upload 500 images at once? [20:21:21] by hand, with maintenance script, with api or with a bot [20:21:36] if it's your own wiki, use maintenance/importImages.php [20:22:49] (run it from a shell) [20:41:51] 03mrzman * r55660 10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 2 dirs): [20:41:51] Add MakeSysop and MakeBot as aliases for UserRights so that links to them won't totally break when the extensions are disabled (bugs 14156/20291). [20:41:51] Adding to core since I wasn't able to find a clean way to do it with WikimediaMessages. [20:58:49] he wtf [20:59:21] I tested my windows version of wfShellBackgroundExec and it did work [20:59:24] and now it stopped [21:18:53] 03btongminh * r55661 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ (ApiFormatBase.php ApiUpload.php): [21:18:53] * Add buffering to ApiFormatBase, which allows buffering the result without [21:18:53] needing ob_* functions. This is for async downloads, but I couldn't get it to [21:18:53] work yet so this commit does not contain the files that actually use the [21:18:54] buffering. [21:18:56] * Hide internalhttpsession parameter from web requests [21:26:05] you won't find many sysadmins [21:26:10] we are all about to get drunk at wikimania [21:27:11] lol [21:28:22] srsly [21:50:16] http://www.starcraftmethod.com/wiki/index.php?title=Marauder could anyone take a quick look at the unitbox template used on that page and help me with moving the minerals, vespene supply and timing icons over to the right of the numbers next to them? i just want to swap the position of the numbers and the icons there - i can't figure out how to do it in our template because i didn't write the template [22:09:48] Luminette: Move how? [22:14:40] I just want the img icons and the numbers to the right of them to trade spaces [22:16:01] you mean, align the values to the right? [22:16:56] change style="color:#FFFFFF;" to style="color:#FFFFFF; text-align: right" [22:19:26] nono, the values are already on the right [22:19:47] i want them sitting where the icons are and the icons where the text currently is [22:20:17] it's a bit complex because of the template design [22:21:57] change {{MineralsIcon}} {{{cost_min}}} to {{{cost_min}}} {{MineralsIcon}} ? [22:22:10] ahh, thank you [22:22:18] guess that's pretty embarassingly simple afterall :) [22:22:49] werdna, the irc urls of your import are funny [22:23:40] wait, are those manual edits?? [22:24:30] and your images have been tagged with no license :P [22:27:34] Platonides: We know [22:27:44] No, they were command line edits and uploads [22:27:46] Platonides: no, done on the shell [22:27:49] I know no license [22:27:50] whatever :D [22:27:58] And we know there's no licensing but we figured the Commons community would handle it [22:27:59] aa.wikipedia: RIP [22:28:04] do you mean the WTF license? xD [22:28:04] hahaha [22:28:15] The Commons don't appreciate your dumps. [22:28:19] Commoners, even. [22:28:20] who made those videos? [22:28:28] The WM09 staff [22:28:43] so, who is the copyright owner? [22:28:53] Either them or the presenters [22:28:58] Dunno which [22:29:02] Haha [22:29:13] how can that be licensed? :( [22:30:12] We were thinking just CC-BY-SAing everything [22:30:43] Formally we need permission of either the presenters or the video crew [22:30:46] commons just delete anything without licenses usally [22:30:50] Yes, we know [22:30:55] well, if they were made by WM09 staff in the course of their duties perhaps the organization can license it [22:31:02] Aye [22:31:17] *p858snake is out => driving lesson [22:31:17] but someone from the organization would need to state that [22:31:25] Can the guy that ran WM09 just make a blanket statement that all videos are a certain license? [22:31:40] perhaps [22:31:44] Right [22:31:58] probably cary can manage it [22:32:03] Platonides, not if it's a contractor. [22:32:04] Oh rigth [22:32:19] Platonides: Actually werdna just got verbal confirmation from Patricio [22:32:26] He was like in charge of WM09 as a whole [22:32:37] And he says it's all CC-BY-SA [22:32:40] he's the president of wm-ar [22:32:47] Aye [22:32:51] well, go for it [22:33:05] *Annemarie files a report with the Commons police. [22:33:08] we won't look at it too carefully ;) [22:33:16] Platonides: OK, werdna is gonna do some more shell edits to CC-BY-SA everything [22:33:35] perhaps the script should be fixed to not put zendler as the domain name :P [22:33:46] s/zendler/zwinger/ [22:34:45] it's done :D [22:35:49] wht didn't you remove {{no license on the same batch? [22:36:03] also, are you sure it is cc-by-sa 1? [22:36:55] if a version wasn't specified I think you wanted {{cc-by-sa-any}} [22:38:18] Platonides: Because removing isn't trivial, and we weren't aware of the latter [22:38:27] I sort of assumed that {{cc-by-sa}} meant CC-BY-SA [22:38:38] My apologies for my ignorance. [22:38:46] I forgive you. [22:38:59] well, I don't know by heart what {{cc-by-sa}} gives either [22:39:02] You should've just uploaded to Meta. Nobody cares there. [22:39:09] your only sin is not to preview ;) [22:39:34] I didn't edit with the web interface [22:39:40] Platonides: You can't preview in the shell [22:39:40] I know :) [22:39:47] I just figured that prefixing every article with {{CC-BY-SA}} would do the trick [22:40:10] You're doing database edits to add license info? [22:40:23] so, Patricio just said "they'are cc-by-sa", with no cc version? [22:40:34] AryehGregor, he's using a command line script [22:41:05] Platonides: I don't think Patricio knows or cares about versions of CC-BY-SA [22:41:27] AryehGregor: No, Article::doEdit() in eval.php [22:41:40] Are there hundreds of videos or something? [22:41:41] It's what you would do too when dealing with 50ish videos [22:41:51] Roan, it's just for doing the things right [22:41:52] (and today's vids to come tomorrow) [22:42:05] Well, I guess most people use bots, but this is probably simpler. :) [22:42:06] Oh, so that's why it's been so quiet recently. [22:42:25] Is "GreenWireless" like "Colorless green ideas"? [22:42:56] AryehGregor: > foreach( $files as $file ) { $a = new Article( Title::makeTitleSafe( NS_FILE, $file ) ); $a->doEdit( '{{cc-by-sa}}'.$a->getContent(), 'Updating' ); } [22:42:56] Platonides: Yeah I understand where you're coming from [22:42:57] No, it's like "fuzzy green critters on an unstable wireless connection." [22:43:46] $files being generated with ls /path >files, and $files = file($files); [22:45:31] $a->doEdit( str_replace ("{{cc-by-sa}}", "{{cc-by-sa-any}}", preg_replace( "/{{no license|month=August|day=\\d+|year=2009}}/", "",$a->getContent())), 'Updating' ); [22:45:52] *AryehGregor waits to hear werdna has marked all files and pages on Commons as CC-BY-SA [22:46:00] xDD [22:46:25] hehe in that case it would probably still not have finished [22:47:10] ran that [22:47:46] done, looks fine [22:48:06] ouch, no [22:48:14] the | weeren't escaped [22:48:23] so they were took as part of the regex [22:48:27] not as literals [22:48:28] http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=27683065&oldid=27682594 [22:48:39] Scripts are fun! [22:48:48] whatever [22:48:51] srsly [22:48:56] I'm logging out of the shell now [22:49:20] *AryehGregor arranges for werdna to be penalized by Commons admins for running scripts without a bot account [22:49:28] ;) [22:49:52] *RoanKattouw waits for werdna to +bot himself [22:50:04] *Platonides unblocks werdna in exchange of developer credit [22:50:06] *werdna would be more likley to -admin the comons admins ;) [22:50:10] haha [22:50:48] *AryehGregor bets werdna would get in trouble for that [22:51:04] probably, but I would be less likely to bot myself :) [22:51:21] tsk tsk [22:51:26] Granted. [22:51:33] aevar had problems for giving himself +admin i think [22:51:49] Well, he only failed an RFA, I think. [22:52:00] yeah, but on english wikipedia [22:52:02] :) [22:52:02] Which reminds me, I should file an enwiki RFA sometime soon. [22:52:09] It would be useful occasionally. [22:52:09] good luck ;) [22:52:11] *^demon gives himself +admin on all of his local wikis [22:52:24] ^demon, omg power abuse! [22:52:37] *werdna abuses AryehGregor [22:52:39] and brion, in passing [22:52:56] AryehGregor: you should watch Michael Dale's presentation when it's on the site [22:53:00] it was really, really awesome [22:53:02] Enwiki? Isn't it an exceptional dump? [22:53:04] \o/ [22:53:04] <^demon> AryehGregor: Yeah. Wait til my localhost ArbCom gets ahold of me! [22:53:28] werdna, I assume that's on new-upload? [22:53:48] should schemachange tag be set to all bugs which will need a schema change or only to those with a patch implementing a schema change? [22:53:49] JS2 [22:54:00] AryehGregor: Add Media Wizard, among other things [22:54:00] Why js2 by the way? [22:54:06] What exactly is js2, anyway? [22:54:09] the stuff he has on metavid wiki is really amazing [22:54:13] Like the script loader and stuff [22:54:13] AryehGregor: It's a few things: [22:54:17] 1/ Chunked uploading. [22:54:20] 2/ Script loader. [22:54:22] 3/ jQuery [22:54:26] 4/ Add Media Wizard [22:54:29] And is there any plan to have its files stuck in appropriate places instead of one general-purpose directory js2? [22:54:38] Ask Mike? [22:54:40] Like skins/, includes/, and so on. [22:54:44] *^demon ++ [22:54:47] *werdna shrugs, ask him [22:54:52] add media wizard is amazing [22:54:52] He didn't go in-depth on jQuery very much [22:55:00] And he showed mw_embed.js [22:55:03] Which is also very cool [22:55:10] putting comp away; meeting folks for dinnerish downstairs :) [22:55:32] It replaces the