[00:01:57] 03(mod) Special:GoogleMapsKML typos its own name, leading to inaccessible page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20457 +need-review +patch (10herd) [00:02:53] Spyc nonsense: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/53613#c3860 [00:06:26] http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Police_for_Fake_Content heh [00:08:58] <^demon> Splarka: Wtf? [00:09:52] I don't think simpsons references are cool anymore [00:10:14] you make baby jesus cry with statements like that :/ [00:11:00] just use monty python, it'll always be cool [00:11:01] 03(NEW) FlaggedRevs: If template is moved to user namespace, a (review) link still appears on RecentChanges after edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20480 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (Wiki.Melancholie) [00:11:19] is your name not bruce? [00:12:28] it sure is, bruce [00:12:38] you don't mind if I call you bruce do you? saves confusion [00:13:11] <_bruce> (took two tries, bruces are sure popular) [00:13:54] can I be in charge of logical positivism and sheep dip? [00:14:35] (Pythons in Bruce regalia handing out Australian beer) "Why is American beer like making love in a canoe?" [00:16:07] <_bruce> the sheep dip is all yours... soon as you change your nick. [00:17:34] damn, can't I just put one made of polystyrene over my regular nick? [00:18:01] <_bruce> yes but we have to see it :-P [00:27:44] <^demon> TimStarling: In r55749 you mention that the mimetype for XSLT can be text/xml, application/xml or application/xslt+xml. I wrote up http://pastey.net/124572 to let the user specify (optionally) which mimetype to use. Does that seem sane? [00:28:39] what would the point be? [00:28:47] does any client actually use it? [00:29:25] <^demon> I don't know of any. But you had mentioned that it could potentially be one of the three, so I didn't know if making it configurable would be beneficial. [00:29:31] it's like the type parameter on scripts and stylesheets, nobody uses them either [00:29:52] we should just hard-code text/javascript and text/css [00:30:03] I run a small wiki and I'm having trouble with automated spam. How do I revert spammers' edits? How can I make it so that you have to register to edit pages? [00:30:14] <^demon> TimStarling: Fair enough :) [00:30:25] ryanprior: if you are an administrator on the wiki, use rollback [00:30:35] !e SpamBlacklist | ryanprior [00:30:35] --mwbot-- ryanprior: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpamBlacklist [00:30:52] and... I forget the factoid for the other thing... halp? [00:31:04] ConfirmEdit? [00:31:26] the fancy captcha has probably been broken though [00:31:34] ryanprior: yep, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit [00:31:47] broken since when? O-o [00:31:59] since everyone coming in complaining about spambots bypassing their captcha [00:32:10] wikia reported seeing a lot of spam with the captchas properly filled out [00:32:17] well yes, including Wikimedia wikis!! [00:32:28] which also could be sweat shops, could be porn proxies [00:32:36] that's bad [00:32:38] ryanprior: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:User_rights [00:32:44] http://decaptcher.com/client/ [00:32:48] XRumer can solve most captchas [00:33:00] $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit'] = false; [00:33:05] $wgGroupPermissions['user']['edit'] = true; [00:33:07] and such [00:33:18] it didn't have MediaWiki's listed but it's not like MediaWiki's was more difficult than any of the others it could do [00:33:51] is it possible to 'fix' that? [00:33:57] http://i.justrealized.com/media/2008/06/the-world-most-complicated-captcha.png [00:34:05] no doubt the xrumer guy would sell his captcha module to anyone interested [00:34:08] we actually are having many spambot accounts created on every wiki [00:35:48] And, of course, the classic: http://www.seosmarty.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/captcha-7.jpg [00:36:22] lol [00:38:42] Anyway, it seems pretty clear that either OCR will get better than humans, or humans will become cheaper than computers. Either way, captchas will die. [00:39:22] someone should write a captcha plugin for firefox, that solves captchas for you [00:39:24] Actually, I guess both are already true; the former just needs time to catch up to the latter [00:39:32] so that you don't have to bother doing them yourself [00:39:43] could be useful for accessibility [00:41:07] Emufarmers: hopefully people will realize that soon and stop making captchas that are unreadable by humans [00:41:22] :D [00:41:52] I think question-based captchas have some future, but they'll only ever be feasible for relatively small sites. [00:43:43] http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2298/2268237663_f7b8775f4a.jpg?v=0 [00:44:45] Does it say what site it was from? [00:45:09] no [00:45:49] http://i40.tinypic.com/30iaxc3.jpg [00:48:13] And, of course, sometimes it uses naughty words: http://emufarmers.com/image_4ff86884_1815009569623094.png [00:48:50] or funny combinations: http://emufarmers.com/image_2c9522a4_76864033f3a7940a.png [00:54:50] 03(mod) Stylesheet forces too much space below minor headings in Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20479 +comment (10brion) [00:56:57] Anyone know how I can edit or delete the remaining entries on http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Special:BrokenRedirects ? [00:57:15] they are in the Talk:Transwiki: namespace, which doesn't exist and is apparently inaccessible :\ [00:57:42] O_o [00:58:14] Now it will slowly drive Mike_lifeguard mad [00:58:23] is that what namespacedupes.php is for? [00:58:27] it will!! [01:00:13] 03(mod) SpecialExport producing corrupt output (PostgreSQL errors) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20475 summary; +comment (10brion) [01:01:37] Mike_lifeguard: you might be able to use api action=delete with the page id, 101670 and 101602 [01:06:49] *Mike_lifeguard wonders how many more invalid titles there are [01:07:20] 03(WONTFIX) Don't include an active link to the homepage on the homepage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20455 +comment (10brion) [01:07:20] ah, &action=delete requires POST [01:09:59] 03(mod) Turn on Extension:Social_Bookmarking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20448 -need-review ; +comment (10brion) [01:11:04] 03(mod) wikimediacommons.org forwards to en.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20445 +comment (10brion) [01:11:13] i am searching for all characters with must be replaced in parser function like switch. It was the apostrophe ', quote " and what else? [01:11:52] 03(mod) Log entries for deleting log entries are opaque - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18335 (10JSchulz_4587) [01:15:56] Mike_lifeguard: make a

in a local file:/// .html file [01:15:59] 03(mod) Rename Wikipedia namespace in mhr wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20442 (10brion) [01:16:38] Splarka: how does that protect against XSS? [01:17:07] ah found: it is & [01:17:09] 03(mod) Enable the Collection extension on cswp - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20436 (10brion) [01:17:32] Emufarmers: because he needs to input his delete token manually [01:17:54] :\ [01:17:55] [01:18:17] 03(mod) Simple extension to append to a wiki page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20435 (10brion) [01:18:55] 03(mod) Enable odp uploads on wikimania2009 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20429 (10brion) [01:19:40] 03(mod) PPCustomFrame_DOM not properly constructed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20431 +comment (10brion) [01:22:10] how can migrate a wiki from a non mediawiki to a mediawiki host? the articles won't match xml or mediawiki format [01:22:44] Find an import script, write one, or pay someone to write one [01:23:15] 14(INVALID) Impossible to edit page in Mediawiki namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20433 (10brion) [01:23:52] 14(WFM) Terrible response times - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20423 (10brion) [01:24:02] the only thing that comes to my mind is a macro recorder to manually browse, copy text, click create article button, paste and repeat over and over [01:24:42] That's also an option [01:25:27] 14(WFM) Wrong encoding in title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20432 +comment (10brion) [01:26:05] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Importing_external_content [01:26:56] wonderful converters :D [01:27:37] note that some of those might be outdated [01:28:04] but there is another problem, import one xml at a time [01:28:11] one of them says its designed for MediaWiki 1.4 [01:29:10] *MrZ-man wonders if the importUseMod script still works [01:29:12] 14(INVALID) action=edit&redirect=yes does not redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20414 +comment (10brion) [01:29:57] 03(mod) NS aliases for Russian Wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20406 (10brion) [01:35:22] I don't have sysop access :/ [01:35:53] I tried this, used a text replacer to erase everything in all htmls but the article's text itself [01:37:09] 03(mod) commons.wikipedia.org -> wikimedia.org redirect double-encodes special characters in query string - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20409 +comment (10brion) [01:42:08] 14(DUP) PDF Font rendering for bengali wiki not properly done - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20403 +comment (10brion) [01:42:11] 03(mod) PDF prints don't join Arabic letters properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19830 +comment (10brion) [01:42:13] brion's feeling frisky [01:43:24] 03(mod) set $wgMaxRedirects = 2 on en.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17888 +comment (10thinboy00) [01:44:24] 14(WFM) Commons File Revision History begging for description - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20373 +comment (10brion) [01:44:34] Down boy [01:49:41] 03(mod) Search possibilities cover up search buttons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16327 (10innocentkiller) [01:49:54] http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_iPhone_app&curid=38120&diff=274169&oldid=273429 aweeesomee [01:51:00] 03(mod) FlaggedRevs: If template is moved to user namespace, a (review) link still appears on RecentChanges after edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20480 (10JSchulz_4587) [01:53:32] 14(DUP) Search for Turkish İ - Unicode Character LATIN CAPITAL LETTER I WITH DOT ABOVE - U+0130 İ fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4379 +comment (10innocentkiller) [01:53:37] 03(mod) Use Unicode Character Folding for accents, punctuation chars in search index - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4430 +comment (10innocentkiller) [01:53:58] oh, didn't know that all articles can be in one xml [02:09:40] who can remind me of the ANSI C tool that processes dumps? [02:09:52] i can't even remember what it does, but its fast, well written and has lots of options [02:09:56] maybe it imports..? [02:10:42] Is it on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Importing_external_content ? :D [02:11:31] nope [02:11:43] here it is http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Xml2sql [02:13:08] 03(mod) Add option for editors in preferences to always show diff to latest flagged revision - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20058 (10JSchulz_4587) [02:14:08] Warning Warning: xml2sql is not an official tool and not maintained by MediaWiki developers. It may become outdated and incompatible with the latest version of MediaWiki! [02:14:23] 03(mod) Draft authors to be mailed when drafts approved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20212 (10JSchulz_4587) [02:14:28] !hurr | Emufarmers [02:14:28] --mwbot-- Emufarmers: Durr. [02:14:40] of course, because xml2sql is written to a far higher standard than mediawiki's own import scripts and so would thus be ineligible for core maintenance! [02:15:18] *dislodges tongue from cheek* [02:15:40] What kind of cheek? [02:15:56] !hurr | Annemarie [02:15:56] --mwbot-- Annemarie: Durr. [02:16:01] �_� [02:16:28] *charitwo dislodges Annemarie's uvula [02:16:49] *Annemarie licks charitwo. [02:16:56] I think you watch to switch a couple letters around, there [02:17:08] *charitwo bites [02:17:18] i know what i said! [02:17:31] thats the little dangly thing in the throat [02:18:08] i have one of those [02:19:42] strange question, what would possibly cause some groups to come up "blank" on Special:ListGroupRights ? i've got them defined via wgAddGroups [02:20:22] atfirst, i thought it was because they were from some (not very well written) extensions, but sysop is gone too [02:31:45] ahha! found it, its the makeGroupLinkWiki callback [02:31:57] Just as I suspected. [02:32:00] 03aaron * r55766 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.hooks.php: (bug 20480) Double check NS before adding review links to RC [02:32:51] 03(FIXED) FlaggedRevs: If template is moved to user namespace, a (review) link still appears on RecentChanges after edits - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20480 +comment (10JSchulz_4587) [02:33:29] Annemarie: suspected but not suggested. you fail! [02:34:19] *Annemarie throws a cactus at charitwo. [02:34:36] *charitwo cuts it up and makes a nice plant for the porch [02:35:36] Well! [03:35:37] 03(mod) Turn on Extension:Social_Bookmarking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20448 (10p858snake) [03:45:39] 03(mod) Turn on Extension:Social_Bookmarking - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20448 (10p858snake) [03:59:23] 03(mod) allow wikibits.js to load without any required globals - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19888 +comment (10greenreaper) [04:07:04] 03(mod) Edits with user/IP suppression aren't obvious - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20470 +comment (10FT2.wiki) [05:04:29] what would be the parserfunction for "if this parameter is defined at all" [05:05:04] {{#if:{{{1|}}}|defined|not}} [05:05:13] Or {{#if:{{{1}}}|defined|not}} [05:05:20] Depends how strict you want it to be. [05:05:28] {{foo|1=}} versus {{foo}} [05:05:53] i would use the word defined? [05:06:06] Er, no. [05:07:07] this: if {{{target}}} has a value other than "", then output stuff [05:07:32] I think that's the second example I posted. [05:07:37] {{foo}} {{foo|target=}} {{foo|target=something}} [05:07:55] I never remember the difference between {{{1|}}} and {{{1}}}. [05:08:01] If there is one. [05:08:16] {{#if:{{{target|}}}|defined|not defined or defined as null -> {{#if:{{{target}}}|not defined|defined as null}}}} [05:08:34] *Annemarie makes a Post-It of that. [05:08:51] there are 3 cases, which do you want? [05:11:04] 14(INVALID) Wrong formlink when viewing an empty page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15329 +comment (10yaron57) [05:11:29] thank you folks [05:11:40] *harej strikes off another template [05:12:01] oops [05:12:35] let loose the flood gates [05:13:01] hmm? [05:13:20] I get a warm, fuzzy feeling when my response to the need for UA sniffing in MediaWiki is to report the inconsistency to the appropriate standards body, when I actually expect it to get fixed as a result: http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-September/022578.html [05:13:57] You're still awake? :o [05:14:12] I went to a sleep lab today and they made me take five naps. [05:14:13] So, yes. [05:14:17] But not for long. [05:14:30] Huh, interesting. [05:22:20] heh, wtf: http://cache0.techcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/healthbasebad2.jpg (from http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/09/02/netbase-thinks-you-can-get-rid-of-jews-with-alcohol-and-salt/ ) [05:23:43] Awesome. [05:23:49] We're like slugs. [05:23:54] Pour some salt on us and we die! [05:24:55] http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/3613/causesrape.jpg http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/7044/treatmentsrape.jpg http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9247/causespreg.jpg (from the fark thread) [05:26:15] I'm going to stop going to my doctor and begin using this site immediately. [05:26:29] I never knew that Home Grown Cereal Authority was a notable cause of rape. [05:26:44] L'chayim! [05:27:56] do a search for hitler [05:28:03] the causes and cures are lol [05:29:13] Causes: Jewish conspiracy [05:29:54] Pros of Hitler: Justify Holocaust [05:31:00] I think somebody could generate better results with cow pie bingo [05:31:03] OverlordQ: http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e350/amf85/Eliminated_The_Juice.jpg?t=1251948419 X_X [05:31:19] yea saw that pic lol [05:39:08] 03(mod) Wrong encoding in title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20432 (10gtisza) [05:57:29] 03(mod) Edits with user/IP suppression aren't obvious - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20470 (10JSchulz_4587) [06:08:28] anyone know/remember what dontcountme=s does/did ? [06:08:39] stops it from appearing in the webalizer stats [06:14:09] uberfuzzy: quite deprecated, heh [06:14:54] uberfuzzy: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17901 [06:15:02] given the age of the code i'm looking at, i wouldnt doubt it [06:52:39] 03(mod) Support collation by a certain locale (sorting order of characters) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164 (10anon.hui) [07:18:40] 03(mod) Setting to only disable password reminder - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20473 (10moreira) [07:27:36] 03(mod) Localization of img_auth.php - with enhancements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19646 (10niklas.laxstrom) [07:47:22] 03(mod) Error: 1146 Table 'testwiki.l10n_cache' doesn't exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20471 (10g.m.hagedorn) [07:54:06] i have a question... on my wiki for some reason.. the pages are listing as wiki/index.php?title=pagename here... instead of .. /wiki/pagenamehere can anyone help me with this [07:55:10] !shorturl | needhelp1 [07:55:10] --mwbot-- needhelp1: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem [08:25:02] 03(mod) Support collation by a certain locale (sorting order of characters) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164 (10anon.hui) [08:28:49] 03(FIXED) Main fonts in books have insufficient coverage for Vietnamese - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20348 +comment (10volker.haas) [08:31:45] hmm, no roan around [08:35:50] there may be a problem with the api write code (just action=edit), and the example.com/Page_title format. [08:36:10] anytime i tried to save a page, something kept mangling the final title, and it would always try to save to the title of Api.php [08:37:30] wikiality? [08:37:36] wowwiki [08:37:44] wowkiality [08:37:51] does it work on wikiality? [08:38:42] Mangled URL structure is mangled. [08:39:26] dogmatic developers are [08:39:39] Hi all, I'm having problems debugging an authentication extension for Mediawiki 1.15. [08:39:56] *Emufarmers indoctrinates Splarka [08:40:56] I'm using the UserLoadFromSession hook. My function gets called, the user is recognized based on non-MW cookies, created in the MW database, but MW doesn't see them as logged in. [08:42:01] I get UserName and UserID cookies, but no session. [08:42:21] Anyone knows how I could debug that? [08:43:39] Also, the UserName and UserID cookies seem to have an expiration date set to *now*. [08:45:09] Splarka: no, it doesnt. in the result data i get back, the title even says " [title] => Api.php" [08:45:45] sounds like your rewrite rules are looking for the &title URI parameter and hijacking it [08:45:58] which is another reason example.com/Page_Name sucks [08:46:23] ehm, we've seen people with this symptom before actually [08:47:11] uberfuzzy: try action=watch, that requires title= as well [08:47:32] or rollback, delete, undelete, protect [08:48:17] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=parse&title=HelloWorld&text={{PAGENAME}} [08:48:20] try that on wow ^_^ [08:48:43] http://wikiality.wikia.com/api.php?action=parse&title=HelloWorld&text={{PAGENAME}} -> <p>Api.php [08:49:02] actually [08:49:03] http://wikiality.wikia.com/api.php?action=parse&text={{PAGENAME}} [08:49:13] it is just appending &title all the time, in the rewrite [08:49:15] ok, so its our rewrite rules, not the api [08:49:25] yes [08:49:25] you can see it there on the last one [08:49:40] screw you wowwiki! [08:49:51] open mouth insert /wiki/ [08:50:01] well, good to know then, thanks [08:50:51] <3 [08:52:32] hmm, is there a way to make that newpp report not show up in that parse result? [08:54:40] 03(mod) Support collation by a certain locale (sorting order of characters) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164 (10anon.hui) [08:55:11] !nullpath is Don't use the example.com/Page_title URL scheme. It isn't supported by developers and WILL break in ways you can't forsee (and if it doesn't, the developers might break it in a future version just to spite you). Some examples can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_in_site_root_directory#Reasons_why_putting_wiki_pages_in_the_root_directory_of_the_web_site_is_bad [08:55:11] --mwbot-- Successfully added keyword: nullpath [08:55:33] uberfuzzy: hmmm, expandtemplates maybe [08:56:06] uberfuzzy: http://wikiality.wikia.com/api.php?action=expandtemplates&text={{PAGENAME}} [08:57:01] view-source:http://wikiality.wikia.com/api.php?action=expandtemplates&text={{PAGENAME}}&format=yaml [09:04:02] 03(NEW) Wget and Perl get stale pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20481 major; Normal; MediaWiki: Database; (leegee) [09:05:09] 03aaron * r55767 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Tailor revdelete-reason-dropdown a bit from copy-paste values [09:09:05] I'm pulling my hair out. I must be doing something wrong, but my UserLoadFromSession hook function *does* setup the $user, and yet the user is still empty as soon as the function exits. [09:09:31] 03(NEW) Page titles that end in a slash should automatically redirect to the title without a slash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20482 minor; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (messedrocker) [09:09:48] Smells like dupe. [09:10:05] Lo-lan-do: you'll probably have better luck asking in a few hours. [09:11:11] Emufarmers: Timezone concerns? [09:11:17] Arr. [09:11:29] Will do. Unless I get to the bottom of it in the meantime. [09:12:04] Have you looked at the example code on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual_talk:Hooks/UserLoadFromSession ? [09:12:24] Wouldn't trust it, but it might give you clues [09:12:51] Yes. The examples are inconsistent in their use of $result and the return value, and I have tried all combinations. [09:13:13] Lo-lan-do: Can you pastebin your hook function? [09:15:12] Sure. [09:16:31] http://pastebin.com/d16d94524 [09:22:10] 14(DUP) Page titles that end in a slash should automatically redirect to the title without a slash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20482 +comment (10herd) [09:22:25] 03(mod) Trailing slashes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3368 +comment (10herd) [09:23:00] damn you [09:23:06] how about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki// [09:23:22] a dupe is a dupe, reopen the original [09:23:31] 03(NEW) Special:Watchlist/edit is unpaginated, crashes browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20483 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Watchlist; (Emufarmers) [09:23:36] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_activity.cgi?id=3368 [09:23:49] which brion closed [09:24:49] 03(mod) off by a trailing slash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10947 +comment (10herd) [09:25:05] 03(mod) Trailing slashes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3368 +comment (10herd) [09:25:28] damn [09:25:29] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12703 [09:25:40] I wanna think this is a dupe too, but maybe all these bugs should dupe to that? [09:26:03] *Splarka is not sure what this is either: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11970 [09:27:13] 14(DUP) Trailing slashes should be ignored when subpages are enabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11747 +comment (10herd) [09:27:17] 03(mod) Trailing slashes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3368 +comment (10herd) [09:29:16] 03(mod) Trailing slashes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3368 (10herd) [09:29:21] *Splarka bites Emufarmers [09:29:37] o: [09:29:42] What'd I do? [09:29:55] smelled 5 dupes [09:30:07] My nose knows. :) [09:30:15] and is too lazy to do anything [09:30:17] apparently [09:30:22] v: [09:30:45] He who smelt it should have dealt with it [09:32:06] 03(NEW) Special:Watchlist won't show logged-in users once hidden - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20484 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Watchlist; (andrew) [09:39:21] Lo-lan-do: Which hook are you hooking that into? [09:40:43] Nikerabbit: ping [09:41:59] 03(mod) Watchlist settings can only be toggled once. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20484 summary; +comment (10overlordq) [09:42:34] I have licensing related Question. [09:42:48] OverlordQ: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/52772 [09:42:48] anyone familiar with semantic mediawiki? i need to find all properties set on a given page - database layout is too cryptic for me.. [09:43:53] yea :( [09:43:58] it seems familiar [09:44:00] *seemed [09:44:10] If suppose, I license the contents of my Wiki as CC-BY-NC-SA ; Does that give the Wiki owner (me) to allow commercial usage of the the Content ? [09:44:22] Vinodh: no, since you don't own the content people write on your wiki [09:44:23] 14(DUP) Watchlist settings can only be toggled once. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20484 +comment (10overlordq) [09:44:29] 03(mod) Show/hide options on watchlist only work once - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19442 +comment (10overlordq) [09:44:32] Vinodh: unless you have a separate agreement that requires people to assign copyright to you [09:44:51] Nikerabbit: unping [09:46:00] Oh Ok. What extra clause should I add ? [09:46:00] and where ? [09:46:35] Vinodh: instead of profiting from other people's work, why not just use a CC-BY-SA license? [09:48:05] No. Its just a wiki with all known participants. Semi-Public I would say. People are feeling allowing others for commercial usage might be a problem. [09:48:33] Okay, I hacked my hook and now it works. Yay. [09:48:44] I think you can the Idea. or am I confusing :-? [09:48:49] *get the [09:49:11] Also, three cheers for PHP being case-insensitive for function names but case-sensitive for variable names. [09:49:30] Vinodh: since end users probably don't care about the clause you can just use CC-BY-NC-SA as the public license [09:49:57] and then expand the license terms for editors by adding the clauses on the edit page [09:50:55] I believe the relevant message is MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning [09:51:18] and MediaWiki:uploadtext for uploads if applicable [09:52:18] "By editing to this wiki you agree to release your work under the creative commons license blah blah blah... furthermore, you agree to allow the owner of this site to blah blah blah... all future possible media... blah blah blah..." [09:52:39] Yeah. That would be nice. Or Will it be more correct to have a user-agreement at the Account Creation Page ? [09:52:47] (consult a lawyer or check the terms on public comments or social sites... they list stuff like "all possible universes") [09:53:01] all possible universes :-) [09:53:07] Man.. that sounds funny.. [09:57:59] > By submitting Content, you grant us a royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, nonexclusive right and license to use, copy, modify, display, archive, store, distribute, reproduce and create derivative works from such Content, in any form, media (print, electronic or otherwise), software or technology of any kind now existing or developed in the future. [10:28:26] Splarka: what was it? [10:28:35] nice split [10:28:55] stupid irssi coalesced all quits into one, but ont joins [10:29:18] Nikerabbit: wanted to know if you'd already fixed https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20484 but I found the rev and Overlord duped it [10:29:25] (so ya had, it seems) [10:30:03] Nikerabbit: I don't think irssi is able to see that someone joins after a netsplit. But it's easy to know that someone leave because of a netsplit. [10:34:16] it does [10:34:18] [09:15:58] -!- Netsplit over, joins: Rjd0060 [10:50:48] hi I have a question: in a template I need to recompose a pagename like namespace:something/pagename so I'm using {{NAMESPACE}}:{{uc:{{{1}}}}}/{{PAGENAME}} andthis works fine but not in Main namespace :( There it sees it as a :{{uc:{{{1}}}}}/{{PAGENAME}} and so indent the content. I've thought that :page meant Main:page but it's not... [10:51:45] I've created a template {{;}} which is {{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|||:}} but even this isn't working.. is there a solution apart to put an explicit if in the final template? [10:52:21] it would become unnecessarily long for just one special case... [11:07:37] I've solve I think: I'ev created a new Template called "Namespace" which is {{#ifeq:{{NAMESPACE}}|||{{NAMESPACE}}:}} and like this the ":" is put in the page only in the right case and I put {{Namespace}}{{uc:{{{1}}}}}/{{PAGENAME}} instead of {{NAMESPACE}}:{{uc:{{{1}}}}}/{{PAGENAME}} hope this can help others :) [11:07:43] solved* [11:09:49] *Splarka reads back [11:10:04] mindrones: ahh yes, that is an open "bug", you can't have a parserfunction return a : [11:10:17] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12974 [11:10:35] as parserfunctions are parsed as if they're on a newline, sort of [11:11:01] *werdna eyes Splarka [11:11:03] this is why {{PAGENAME}} on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*Foo screws up all the notes [11:11:09] werdna: fix it, plz [11:11:15] nevar [11:11:18] Splarka ah okie [11:11:21] yah, as expected [11:11:27] Splarka thx, do you think my hack is ok? [11:11:28] mindrones: is cuz the devs are lazy drunks [11:11:37] fix it yourself Splarka :) [11:11:37] yah, if it works for ya [11:11:41] like me then :) [11:11:43] I ain't no dev [11:11:50] then learn [11:11:55] learn PHP? [11:11:59] :) [11:11:59] I'll wait till ya port to C++ [11:12:23] *werdna ports Splarka to C++ [11:13:14] eep, that tickles [11:13:49] hmm, werdna, what was I gonna axe ya [11:14:06] something about AbuseFilter maybe... [11:14:25] no idea [11:14:40] hey, you ported me, read my source [11:15:23] *werdna reads Splarka's magic sauce ;) [11:15:55] mayo, mustard, tomato ketchup, paprika, turmeric, dash of cayenne [11:26:19] Its me again. Does this license text look OK ? [11:26:22] Content that violates any copyrights will be deleted. You irrevocably agree to release your contributions under the Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike License 3.0, or other license that has been specifically specified on this page. You agree to be credited, at minimum, through a hyperlink or URL when your contributions are reused in any form. In the case of releasing your contributions under CC-BY-NC-SA, by submitting Content, you als [11:27:26] 03(NEW) UsabilityInitiative combined/minified scripts are broken because of flawed combine.sh - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20485 critical; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (mormegil) [11:27:40] link to what? [11:27:55] too long if it doesn't fit into one irc line [11:29:48] No probs being too long, as long as it makes the point correctly. The hyperlink part was taken from Wikipedia. [11:29:58] Vinodh: too long for IRC [11:30:10] packets are limited to 512 bytes including your nick, host, channelname, etc.. [11:30:13] btw is there a place where I can download the vector skin? I haven't found it :/ [11:30:31] mindrones: svn trunk (and the wmf deployment branch), it requires 1.16 stuffs [11:30:53] ah okie thx, it's very pleasant :) [11:31:25] huh, must be like how cilantro /doesn't/ taste like soap to some people [11:31:30] *Splarka hides from Roan [11:35:29] Oh. Try this: http://pastebin.com/m6d8254dd [11:37:18] "by submitting Content to this site" maybe, IANAL [11:37:23] werdna: What is the name of the JS wg variable containing the namespace map you're gonna add? [11:38:49] Oh Ok. [11:53:21] RoanKattouw: I should commit that, huh [11:53:30] I don't reme [11:53:48] oh no, someone just killed werdna [11:55:50] flyingparchment: opps sorry about that *pushes the crowbar under the bed [11:57:31] As a question in general, do we know when the next mediawiki application update will be? [11:57:40] no one does. [11:57:48] ro I don't remember :) [11:58:00] bah, lag [11:58:13] ballpark? weeks? months? years? [11:58:45] sDrewth: we're pretty close [11:58:48] my guess? at least six weeks. there's no fork yet. but pretty sure before the end of there year. [11:58:54] <- waiting for ThomasV's update to Proofread thingy [11:58:58] it's just that we had sightseeing and partying to do at wikimania [11:59:01] and everybody is quite nicely jetlagged [11:59:06] :P [11:59:08] oh, there is ThomasV (wave) [11:59:25] thanks [11:59:51] jetlagged is only good, when the party was [11:59:55] werdna: so i guess the next usability release won't make it into 1.16 [11:59:56] or you got in scuba diving! [12:00:05] Oh crap. :( [12:00:10] Wikia purchased LyricWiki! [12:00:35] wikia is getting scarry :) [12:00:49] >:| My wiki shall never fall into that. [12:01:30] argh, why I cant login in https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org with the same login I have in wikipedia and mediawiki? [12:01:44] mindrones: Because Bugzilla is something else. [12:01:48] You use your email. [12:02:20] ok, but mediawiki and wikipedia share the login, I've found it cool [12:02:32] mindrones: That is cool. But they are also MediaWiki sites. [12:02:34] too many logins today :/ [12:02:35] The use the same software. [12:02:37] Bugzilla doesn't. [12:02:41] It's written in Perl. [12:02:43] ah that [12:02:47] ufff :) [12:02:47]