[00:00:18] the debug log file and header dumps have your session ID in them, which would allow someone to compromise your account if they wanted to, that's why I said email before [00:01:11] it's no big deal if they do, you can get it back again, it's just good practice not to post those kinds of things publically [00:01:59] emailed [00:02:37] i have a feeling zend optimizer has something to do with this [00:03:10] 03brion * r56216 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/deleteSelfExternals.php: Merge deleteSelfExternals.php handy pruning script from wmf-deployment r53856 [00:04:38] 03siebrand * r56217 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/scripts/fuzzy.php: [00:04:38] Quick fix that 3.1-3.5MB/edit memory leak from $status = $wgArticle->doEdit( TRANSLATE_FUZZY . $text, $comment, EDIT_FORCE_BOT ); [00:04:38] Thanks ^demon for the help. [00:05:16] 03brion * r56218 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/deleteSelfExternals.php: cleanup r56216 deleteSelfExternals a little - fix short PHP tag, use escaping for good measure (though in most cases we'll be clean) [00:06:21] ok can't do much more code mergin on an empty stomach ;) [00:06:40] *Hoosie gets out the whip [00:06:52] *Emufarmers refills brion's pellet dispenser [00:06:59] lol [00:10:44] :) [00:13:59] Laura! [00:17:06] Hoosie: it looks like the session data on the server is being deleted or corrupted a short time after it's set [00:17:54] well i log in from my work and it works fine.. wonder why it is deleting it for satellite connection [00:18:41] maybe HughesNet is holding on to the connection [00:19:14] oh i see [00:21:33] when is session data written to disk? [00:22:08] not really sure [00:22:23] is that determined by the webhost? [00:22:36] 03siebrand * r56219 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/scripts/fuzzy.php: Revert r56217. Actually didn't help a bit, I just compared apples and oranges (lines 26 and 33) in http://pywiki.pastey.net/125060. So where does it leak? [00:23:46] it's CGI, right? [00:24:37] yes [00:24:53] the session extension registers an RSHUTDOWN hook which does the write [00:26:18] well i dont know why (and as is noted in the several open issues on bugzilla about this) this is occuring on some mediawikis and not others [00:26:38] I'm reading the code [00:31:36] it could happen quite easily if you had overlapping requests with the same session ID [00:32:37] open includes/Wiki.php [00:32:58] in my browser? [00:33:06] in a text editor [00:33:13] ok [00:33:38] search for "function restInPeace" [00:33:47] k [00:33:56] before this: [00:33:59] wfDebug( "Request ended normally\n" ); [00:34:02] insert this: [00:34:08] session_write_close(); [00:34:43] k just a sec [00:35:26] then upload the file and see if your wiki starts working [00:35:34] k [00:37:35] wtf this text editor just corrupted my whole wiki.php [00:37:37] OMG [00:37:57] brb [00:39:20] it'd be interesting to get some tcpdump traces and finish this off completely [00:41:22] 03(NEW) (hide/unhide) link is missing from deleted revisions of a page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20611 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Revision deletion; (FT2.wiki) [00:43:27] utf-8? [00:43:36] wtf why does editing the file keep corrupting shit [00:43:39] or ASCII or whatever [00:43:45] just not question marks [00:43:51] now my whole site is question marks [00:44:11] what MediaWiki version was it again? [00:44:18] 1.15.1 [00:45:58] I'll email you the file [00:46:07] okay [00:46:14] im sorry i dunno why my editor is so fucked up [00:46:17] done [00:46:52] u already wrote that line in it? [00:46:56] yes [00:47:04] k [00:48:23] there we go [00:48:24] k [00:48:27] lets try this [00:48:57] same thing [00:49:02] :-/ lol [00:49:33] i mean still logged back out [00:52:27] I have to go [00:52:38] k [00:52:43] thanks tim [00:52:47] but we're pretty close to a solution [00:52:54] you think so? [00:53:23] yeah, I think it's pretty well isolated now [00:53:55] yay ;) [00:53:57] ttyl [00:54:31] 03(mod) Create Author, Portal, Page and Index namespaces for vi.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20334 (10vinhtantran) [01:31:09] does someone know of a mediawiki extension for viewing / manipulating gpx files? [03:13:17] !error_reporting [03:13:17] --mwbot-- I don't know anything about "error_reporting". You might try: !errors !passthru [03:13:21] !error reporting [03:13:21] --mwbot-- For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . [03:40:43] !beer [03:40:43] --mwbot-- hmmm... beeeer... [03:41:56] jdpond go to bed :D [03:42:35] Yeah definitely need to. Was looking at the mwbot msgs - found one I liked! [03:42:43] !blame [03:42:43] --mwbot-- Whatever happened, it's Domas' fault. [03:43:08] :D [03:43:27] phpbot on ##php has a few interesting ones too :D [03:43:47] Thanks alphos, I'll look it up. [03:44:14] try /msg phpbot ugly [03:44:15] :) [03:45:07] I'm always afraid I'll get that goat whatever picture if I try something you guys suggest. [03:45:34] >_> [03:45:39] i'm not Annemarie >8> [03:46:23] <_< [03:46:49] :D [03:46:58] *Alphos huggles Annemarie anyway [03:47:04] *Annemarie snuggles Alphos. [03:47:08] ^^ [03:48:02] As long as you guys are up way too late, I was thinking of committing http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:New_User_Email_Notification#Concerns_about_this_approach, but really don't like the eval approach. Any ideas? [03:48:52] Creating a new version every time someone comes up with th need for a new argument, creating a new version doesn't seem to be the right way to go either. [03:51:27] the concept of self-modifying code sends a shiver up any self respecting developer's spine o.O [03:51:40] are you planning on using a self modifying code ? >_> [03:52:56] Yeah, I wrote that. The parameter array is basically a list that can be infinitely modified anywhere in the program, then executed there. Convenient, but scary. [03:53:25] Of course if you have access to the code, you could do that anyway. [03:54:01] Alphos: why, because it will become sentient and destroy its creators? [03:54:31] I talked to robchurch about it a couple weeks ago and he said it would work, but the eval concept still disturbs me. [03:54:43] Emufarmers or become buggy and destroy its wiki ? :x [03:55:09] You talked to Rob Church? [03:55:35] Yeah. He can be drawn out if you persist. [03:56:18] Any idea what drove him out - won't discuss that subject. [03:57:04] I'm guessing smoke or tear gas [03:57:06] you sent him a goatse image ? [03:57:15] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:New_User_Email_Notification#Re:_.22Further_customisation.22_IP_addresses [03:57:36] That's it the goatse image - only need to get that once! [03:57:53] >_> [03:58:02] *Alphos is getting confused... [03:58:05] [05:56:09] * z3rongod (i=IceChat7@91.201.194.48) has joined ##php [03:58:05] [05:56:50] irc? [03:58:07] >_> [03:59:02] I learned a long time ago every project needs a good heretic. [03:59:45] and a good village dumb'o [04:00:08] Well, when I'm involved I got that role covered - never had to cast that position. [04:00:17] :D [04:00:34] darn, i'm soooo craving for a cigarette >_< [04:02:17] I have a Diamond Crown Cigar and a bottle of Cabernet. Thinking of going out on the deck and enjoying. [04:03:54] i don't want alcohol right now, otherwise i'd be having trouble choosing between a glenlivet, a wyborowa, and a port [04:04:09] (tawny, but excellent) [04:07:55] Alphos, think I may have screwed up Special:Code http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/56214. See http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/ConditionalShowSection?view=markup&pathrev=56214 [04:08:30] ouch >_> [04:08:46] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/ConditionalShowSection/?pathrev=56214 [04:09:05] pathrev=56214 shows a repertory, hence no markup [04:09:43] *Alphos uses trac usually, not viewVC... >_> [04:11:27] I've got both running - let the masses decide and they went with ViewVC https://svn.montcopa.org/publicviewvc. Needed to do some certificate level authentication and protection. Couldn't do that with TRAC [04:12:38] Actually I don't think anyone's still using TRAC - got this message might be months old. https://trac.montcopa.org/ [04:12:51] i wonder if there isn't an ldap plugin as of now [04:13:43] (i don't use trac for mediawiki + extensions, just in the general case :p ) [04:14:27] Kind of curious why it's crashing - but not curious enough to find out. [04:15:23] the ViewVC has public and private repos - the private repos require a cert - just like the private SVN - for read or commit access. [04:16:25] I am going to look at implementing Special:Code - love that app! [04:46:27] 03tparscal * r56220 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (10 files in 5 dirs): [04:46:27] Resotred automatic ellipsis for suggestions, added autoEllipse plugin. Also [04:46:27] noticed that namespaceSelect needed to be added to list of combined and minified [04:46:27] scripts. Ellipis seems a little screwy still - working on getting it to be more [04:46:27] stable. [05:32:21] 03(WONTFIX) Implement input form support on strategy.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20292 highest->normal; +comment (10pbeaudette) [05:33:38] 03(mod) Create a private wiki, strategy-apps.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20573 (10pbeaudette) [05:39:22] 03(mod) Create a private wiki, strategy-apps.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20573 (10pbeaudette) [05:41:39] 03(mod) Create a private wiki, strategy-apps.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20573 (10pbeaudette) [05:47:23] 03(mod) Create a private wiki, strategy-apps.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20573 +shell (10public) [05:53:02] and this is one of the reasons we kind of need per namespace read persmissions so we don't have heaps of little installs floating around [06:45:35] [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Current_weather]] [07:19:54] isnt there an extension that does that? [07:21:48] yes, and it's mentioned in the linked discussion [07:22:11] but it will break caching horribly, so the answer is no [07:35:04] *Splarka prefers VPT for a higher quality of whining users [07:40:49] Hmm, weather should probably be on Wikipedia:Perennial proposals [07:41:33] Altough I'm not sure it's actually technically infeasible [07:43:48] just javascript it to a weather service with json [07:46:02] omg unfree! [07:46:18] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Watched_counter Quick, respond with "SOIMPLEMENTIT"! [07:47:26] Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) 1705 [07:54:45] hmh [07:58:25] rar [07:59:02] Speaking of rar, why is Splarka so quiet tonight? :( [08:00:24] was being amused by the logs of dom/as and Ary/ehGr/egor vs prefr/ontal, and that nutso satellite guy vs everyone [08:01:08] Tim-away: you have awesome patience sometimes [08:02:45] it's a useful thing to have when you're debugging, some bugs take a while to work out [08:03:08] true enough, and it would be great to have a general solution, but it sucks when your only test case is a complete nimrod [08:03:27] *Splarka has been on both sides of that a few times, heh heh [08:03:45] I'm wondering now if I can get him to install a SOCKS proxy [08:03:50] or a VPN server [08:10:51] yknow, it would be nice if view-source put accesskey="," on the textarea so I could accesskey+, ctrl+a, ctrl+c, and move on [08:26:13] 03raymond * r56221 10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 5 dirs): [08:26:13] Follow-up r56215: Replace hardcoded text with a new message. [08:26:13] Replace "images" with the generic "files" [08:26:13] Wrap message into a div with class=error [08:26:13] Add it to RELEASE-NOTES [08:38:11] 03(mod) Special:Export ignores parameters limit, dir and offset - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18180 +comment (10azliq7) [08:40:55] i've submitted a patch, now what do i do? [08:41:14] Wait for developers to become active. [08:41:23] Then harass them to review it. [08:42:03] harass them? [08:42:43] as cruelly as you can [08:42:46] =) [09:34:28] 03shinjiman * r56222 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Literary Chinese [09:45:06] 03(mod) Enable StringFunctions on WMF wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6455 (10richard) [09:45:55] 03(NEW) "php deleteOldRevisions.php --delete" doesn�t work anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20612 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (emmanuel) [10:01:32] 03midom * r56223 10/trunk/debs/php5-apc/debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [10:01:32] * Upstream 3.1.3p1-beta [10:01:32] * Rework SHM patch a bit, to have proper name, proper contents and no rejects [10:09:09] *f00li5h meows [10:09:26] is there a pre-rolled way to have MW check only http basic auth? [10:10:05] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HttpAuth ? [10:10:06] I had a rummage on the wiki, but didn't find anything... I want to have apache do the user/pass business (so i can get some juicy SSO actoin going with a couple of other apps) [10:10:16] pawn. [10:10:21] (might be out of date) [10:10:51] pawing at it now... [10:11:12] see also http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Authentication and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/AuthPlugin [10:12:46] looks like a troubling plugin [10:13:12] 03(NEW) The coll-n_pages message is not formatted properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20613 trivial; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Collection; (mormegil) [10:19:48] are there any docs on HTMLForm? [10:20:09] 03ialex * r56224 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/syntaxChecker.php: Use wfEscapeShellArg() so that the script works correctly when paths contain whitespaces [10:23:19] Bryan: some notes in Preferences.php it seems: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/Preferences.php?view=co&content-type=text%2Fplain [10:23:34] blame werdna [10:24:02] 03midom * r56225 10/trunk/debs/php5-apc/debian/control: pcre dependancy since 3.1.x [10:38:32] Does anyone know why MediaWiki:Monobook.js works and User:.../monobook.js not? [10:39:13] one is enabled by default, the other is not [10:39:21] one is for all users, the other is only for logged in users [10:39:28] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgAllowUserJs [10:39:37] so, various reasons [10:39:59] ok. [10:41:44] *yawn* [10:41:58] $wgAllowUserJs ="true"; and anything works. [10:42:05] thank xou :) [10:49:37] 03catrope * r56226 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/EditToolbar.js: EditToolbar: Remove namespace dropdown in link dialog for now [10:54:37] god its quiet [10:57:50] http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9599/misterwonderful.gif [11:18:31] i have a fresh private mediawiki and mass uploaded a lot of images, now i would like to sort / categorize them in some way, by their image metadata, by the date they were taken on, i can see the metadata on the File: pages, but what could help me to semi-automatize that [11:19:30] some sort of bot i guess [11:19:44] !pywikipedia | mutante_ [11:19:44] --mwbot-- mutante_: pywikipediabot is a bot framework written in Python that allows for easier automated actions on a wiki. For more information, see . [11:19:58] no idea if they have a premade script for it [11:20:28] hmm,k ,thanks [11:21:13] actually i would like to try and make a new Special page [11:21:26] Oldestimages or Imagesbyage [11:21:42] but it should not look at the page creation date or upload date but the image metadata [11:21:51] since first upload, since last upload, since most recent page description edit? [11:21:58] ahh, evil [11:22:23] well yes, i want the actual day the image was taken, right [11:22:30] not when i got time to upload it [11:22:37] you might ask in #wikimedia-commons as they have several bots that mess with metadata [11:23:08] ok, thanks [11:24:19] humm, I can see general uses for a Special:Metadata type file handler though [11:25:17] Category:Images taken with ISO speed 400? you mean stuff like that? [11:25:30] besides the date the image was taken [11:25:33] sortable, searchable, etc [11:25:48] categorizable maybe even, yah [11:26:09] I have a special upload handler for mp3's that categorises them based on the tags [11:26:16] cool [11:26:16] what languages do you like writing in? php? python? [11:26:22] php [11:26:34] cocoa? [11:27:12] maybe if you could write an efficient extension it could be put on commons ^_^ [11:27:21] cirwin: i guess thats what i want for jpg's and the image EXIF data [11:27:32] it already reads them ... [11:27:39] and puts it on the File page [11:27:49] something unlike the disabled mime search... [11:27:49] does anyone write in cocoa [11:28:03] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=File:Test.jpg&prop=imageinfo&iiprop=metadata [11:28:50] Splarka: wasn't a metadata thingy one of the ones that what ever chapter put a bounty on? [11:28:59] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&generator=allimages&prop=imageinfo&iiprop=metadata [11:29:38] p858snake: probably, sounds like something they would... appears as "low hanging fruit" to front end users and looks like "inefficient without a huge-ass index and never in a million years" to developers [11:30:36] so it'd get turned into an extension that only small wikis would use, and a toolserver tool for the big ones [11:30:51] *Splarka has no idea if that is the case, but suspects [11:30:53] so do you want the value of you'd probably want an index of that so it is easily sortable, converting that to ISO 8601 dates (or whatever it is MW uses internally)? [11:36:34] 03raymond * r56227 10/trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [11:36:34] Run code through stylize.php [11:36:34] Update extension credits [11:36:34] Add i18n file [11:36:34] Add extension to translatewiki.net [11:42:11] Got a little MediaWiki challenge ... [11:42:30] I have a MediaWiki install with some 70 users, and we decided to change the default template [11:42:48] Hi all [11:42:58] well, it works on all new users, but how can I make it the default template for the old users as well? [11:43:00] in the db? [11:43:27] see maintenanve/userOptions.php [11:47:35] Thanks, cirwin, but how do one use it? [11:48:10] How can i create a inputbox that create a new page in a specific Catergory with a specific template thats exist in template:XY ? [11:50:27] you could have the form preload a template into the edit feild of the new page [11:50:36] Splarka knows about that black magic [11:52:17] function wfBCP47( $code ) { [11:52:19] worst-named function ever [11:53:15] lol [11:54:01] TimStarling :o [11:54:12] what does it do ? :D [11:54:39] * @param $code String: The language code. [11:54:39] * @return $langCode String: The language code which complying with BCP 47 standards. [11:54:42] cant you tell from the name? [11:54:52] just because the IETF numbers their best current practices doesn't mean we have to number our functions [11:55:16] XD [11:55:17] "The language code which complying with BCP 47 standards." .. what does that even mean? [11:55:23] but how can i create this edit feild ? [11:55:30] does it mangle the string to make it compliant? [11:55:51] it just changes the case of various bits [11:55:56] so... Hoosie... [11:56:16] o tim inoticed something you might find interesting [11:56:27] BlackBinary http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:InputBox [11:56:36] when i go to another page i'm logged out but when i go back to the main page, it shows logged in again [11:56:59] cache maybe? [11:56:59] ok [11:57:00] I had another look at your debug logs and at the relevant code and what not [11:57:03] Alphos: Ty ! [11:57:33] I think the problem may not be quite as Hughes-dependant as I thought [11:58:01] ah really? [11:58:45] hmm [12:00:37] actually there's something very odd indeed in this debug log [12:00:58] you're welcome :) [12:01:13] most certainly HughesNet's fault [12:01:39] btw have you worked out how to edit text files yet? [12:02:02] i think so :) [12:02:15] *Splarka makes a voodoo doll of p858snake [12:02:21] but i think the problem goes beyond hughesnet.. wildblue has the same problem [12:02:32] from what i understand [12:02:37] you know you wub me Splarka [12:02:42] they probably use the same broken software [12:03:07] it ain't easy internetting through space [12:03:25] with all due respect, their "broken" software is only causing a problem with mediawiki [12:04:06] no need for due respect with flyingparchment [12:04:15] you know he won't give it back to you ;) [12:04:20] lol [12:05:41] here's what it looks like to me [12:05:59] when you request a page from HughesNet, their proxy parses the response HTML [12:06:14] badly, they don't unencode the & so you get invalid URLs in the debug logs [12:06:56] yeah, okay. sounds like their software is working perfectly [12:07:02] they extract the CSS links, and immediately send requests for all of them, in parallel, to the server [12:07:29] presumably this is done on the terrestrial server side, to reduce latency [12:07:45] the responses are probably sent back to the client unasked for, and stored to a cache [12:08:28] so when you ask for /index.php?title=Main_Page, the moment MW finishes its request, HughesNet sends back 5 requests [12:08:53] in parallel, and they don't finish for a while [12:09:31] hmm [12:09:33] it seems to do this every time, same stylesheets [12:10:06] for every stylesheet, MW reads the session at request startup, and writes the session at shutdown [12:11:19] so if you do a login, and the login starts and finishes while all the queued up stylesheet preloads are still going, then the stylesheet preloads can overwrite the session when they shut down [12:12:11] you should try going to the log in screen, then waiting about a minute [12:12:26] ok [12:12:29] only then, then enter your username and password and log in [12:13:13] k waiting [12:14:16] if the session save path was in a local directory, the file locks would serialise the requests [12:14:32] and so MW would be extremely slow, but login would work [12:14:50] but it's likely that your host has them on NFS, which means that locking doesn't work [12:14:58] okay logged in.. now try another page? [12:15:04] yes [12:15:39] logged out.. but going back to main page has me logged back in lol [12:16:09] it probably sends a 304, you should try a page you haven't been to before [12:16:28] start over again? [12:16:35] no [12:17:29] http://www.umheadquarters.com/index.php?title=Ahaeytwr7w6 [12:18:00] logged out [12:20:47] im guessing we're a lil farther from isolation now ;) hehe [12:21:18] 03btongminh * r56228 10/trunk/extensions/GlobalUsage/ (4 files): [12:21:18] * Did some work on the UI: should be more or less complete now. [12:21:18] * Changed the indices to what seems logical to me, but I think somebody who knows more about that should have a look over it. [12:21:58] no, I don't think so [12:22:09] it could just be that you didn't wait long enough [12:22:31] k i can try again [12:23:40] sitting at the login page [12:23:54] can you get to your access log through cpanel? [12:23:59] ill wait like 2 mins [12:24:29] where is it located [12:25:06] the debug log ? [12:26:46] or the raw access log [12:30:43] i do have access to the raw access log [12:33:36] where was I? [12:33:46] 03(mod) Review/Enable GlobalUsage extension to supplement/replace CheckUsage toolserver tool - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18059 +need-review; +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh) [12:33:55] lol [12:33:58] i do have access to the raw access log [12:34:38] if you can edit your LocalSettings.php without turning it into question marks, put this at the bottom of it: [12:34:39] $wgDebugLogPrefix = mt_rand(0,1000000) . ': '; [12:35:07] $wgDebugLogFile = "{$IP}/debug.txt"; [12:35:14] and delete the old log file so that we can start with a blank one [12:35:23] k [12:37:20] what's up [12:39:36] hey Nikerabbit [12:40:55] the 'wrong sidebar cached' bug is quite annoying [12:41:12] *^demon waves to Nikerabbit [12:41:19] as in wrong language? [12:41:51] <^demon> siebrand: Btw, I ran rebuildall against the 90k-ish revision import I was doing. Couldn't seem to hit OOM errors :-\ [12:42:40] as in the version from messagesen.php [12:46:54] 03(mod) "php deleteOldRevisions.php --delete" doesn�t work anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20612 (10innocentkiller) [12:50:41] omg tim now i know why it was doing the question marks [12:50:49] i was pasting between mac os x and windows [12:52:41] TimStarling_: How far are you from Canberra - I've got a buddy that lives upside down and if you're anywhere close I want him to buy you dinner and drinks for being so nice to Hoosie. [12:53:10] haha i know tim prolly hates me [12:53:59] Hoosie: just remember how far he's gone out of his way to help you out - then pass it on to others. [12:54:29] i will and have.. i was telling people yesterday how gracious he had been [12:54:41] but i think its working now so i'm back at the login screen [12:57:28] jdpond: 360km [12:58:03] tim do u want me to go to another page and then back to the main page again or just to another page and then send u the file [12:59:32] have you got the login page open? [12:59:46] yep i already opened it and waited like 2 mins and then logged in [12:59:50] and then went to another page [12:59:56] you don't need to send me the debug log file, I can read it on the web: http://www.umheadquarters.com/debug.txt [13:05:54] Hmm. TimStarling_ that's more than a short walk. [13:06:20] Hoosie: reading [13:06:41] thanks ;) [13:12:51] how long was it between when you logged in and when you logged out again? [13:12:56] 03(NEW) HTML error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20614 trivial; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Quiz; (ste.coda) [13:13:04] oh right, you didn't log out [13:13:05] duh [13:13:12] lol [13:13:22] mediawiki does that for me ;) [13:13:36] HughesNet just picked the logout link out of the HTML and preloaded it for you [13:13:46] HA [13:13:49] it's always the simplest thing isn't it? [13:14:03] lol [13:14:25] lol [13:15:18] it did it three times [13:15:43] GET /index.php?title=Special:UserLogout&returnto=MediaWiki:Print.css [13:15:51] GET /index.php?title=Special:UserLogout&returnto=MediaWiki:Common.css [13:16:00] GET /index.php?title=Special:UserLogout&returnto=MediaWiki:Monobook.css [13:16:05] just to be sure [13:16:06] *MaxSem laughs hysterically [13:16:36] sounds like a conspiracy to me [13:16:44] because it's doing the & thing with the original CSS URLs, it gets served HTML instead [13:16:59] and then it scans that HTML, assuming it's CSS, for more URLs [13:17:03] that might be worth an update to your blog tim, heh, classic [13:17:23] ^demon: too strange. Then I still wonder what causes the leaks. Lemme try and do the same. [13:17:31] is this the "broken client" that domas blocked & on WMF for? [13:17:54] well, that would explain why WMF works [13:18:24] is it fixable [13:18:26] he was just annoyed at the false requests eh? [13:18:32] (IIRC) [13:18:49] let's see if there's any headers that identify these requests [13:20:04]