[00:00:10] <CIA-12>	03demon * r56463 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ui/CodeAuthorListView.php: Fix link to author views.
[00:00:21] <^demon>	brion: That ^ needs merge+sync too.
[00:00:52] <p858snake>	also why is there a link to the help page for the user contribs in the top right....
[00:03:35] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) remove edit and new page creation privilege of anonyms on id.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20666 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (stanley)
[00:03:46] <MrZ-man>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/releasenotes isn't working :\
[00:05:38] <^demon>	Remove edit permissions for anons?
[00:05:42] <^demon>	o_O
[00:07:38] <p858snake>	just give them flagged revs
[00:08:05] <Annemarie>	^demon: You gonna comment? Don't wanna conflict you.
[00:08:22] <^demon>	I wasn't writing anything.
[00:08:24] <p858snake>	Vadalism happening with logged in accounts!.... NEVAR!
[00:08:29] <Annemarie>	K.
[00:08:30] <^demon>	I can think up some good arguments for WONTFIX
[00:08:46] <p858snake>	my argument would be "stupid idea" wontfix
[00:09:36] <^demon>	NYT: Wikipedia removes anonymous editors from Indonesian version
[00:09:51] <MrZ-man>	anonyms
[00:09:58] <^demon>	Yeah those
[00:11:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Remove edit and new page creation rights for anons on id.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20666  summary; +comment (10public)
[00:11:17] <Ryulong>	how do I get rid of the new tool hints
[00:11:25] <Ryulong>	not just the legend
[00:11:45] <kmccoy>	Ryulong, try #wikimedia-social
[00:11:57] <Ryulong>	...
[00:12:03] <kmccoy>	Just kidding, I just wanted to see how many channels we could push you through.
[00:12:12] <Ryulong>	I do not like you
[00:12:20] <kmccoy>	No, but Annemarie does.
[00:12:33] <Annemarie>	I do.
[00:12:36] <charitwo>	Annemarie is a whore
[00:12:45] *Annemarie 	solicits charitwo.
[00:12:56] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56464 10/trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (CodeReview.i18n.php ui/CodeReleaseNotes.php): Bump releasenote range limit and actually give a notice when out of it
[00:13:01] <Annemarie>	Ryulong: View the page source, find the appropriate CSS id/class, and hide it.
[00:13:32] <CIA-12>	03purodha * r56465 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/TranslateEditAddons.php: Show diff of original English message when translation is fuzzied.
[00:14:00] <Ryulong>	I'm seeing <abbr class="minor" title="This is a minor edit">
[00:14:20] <Annemarie>	abbr.minor { display: none; }
[00:14:36] <Annemarie>	What a horrible class name...
[00:14:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Remove edit and new page creation rights for anons on id.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20666   +shell; +comment (10innocentkiller)
[00:16:35] <Ryulong>	that doesn't work
[00:16:42] <Ryulong>	it gets rid of the m, b, and N labels too
[00:16:56] <Ryulong>	hiding that they are minor edits
[00:17:12] <p858snake>	hmm [[Special:Statistics]] probably shouldn't inculde the brackets as part of the links for the list of members
[00:18:00] <^demon>	p858snake: Is it? WFM.
[00:18:08] <^demon>	Oh nevermind.
[00:18:12] <^demon>	Misread you
[00:22:19] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56466 10/trunk/extensions/ReaderFeedback/specialpages/RatedPages_body.php: fixed message error & crappy class name
[00:25:57] <Emufarmers>	http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2009-September/055204.html o: conspiracy!
[00:26:46] <^demon>	Emufarmers: More like "zomg....it wasn't a conspiracy after all!"
[00:26:57] <Emufarmers>	That's what they want you to think!
[00:27:28] <CIA-12>	03brion * r56467 10/branches/wmf-deployment/languages/LanguageConverter.php: merge r56462 fix from trunk
[00:29:40] <Emufarmers>	^demon: do maintenance scripts use $wgDBuser and $wgDBpassword if $wgDBadminuser and $wgDBadminpassword aren't set?
[00:31:38] <Ryulong>	hmm
[00:31:41] <Ryulong>	I can't use Twinkle
[00:32:25] <^demon>	Emufarmers: Yes. And using --dbuser and --dbpassword will override either one of those.
[00:32:36] <CIA-12>	03werdna * r56468 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialContributions.php: Fix regression in r52174 where parameter was not passed to MediaWiki:sp-contributions-footer
[00:33:08] <Ryulong>	why can't I use twinkle
[00:33:27] <Emufarmers>	^demon: so isn't https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14201 effectively fixed?
[00:33:42] <Ryulong>	"Reverting page: couldn't grab element "editform", aborting, this could indicate failed response from the server"
[00:34:47] <^demon>	Emufarmers: Eh kinda, but not directly. Fixed in that A) Almost all maintenance scripts don't need $wgDBadminuser anyway, and B) The installer grants the CREATE and UPDATE rights now too, so using $wgDBadminuser is even less necessary than before.
[00:35:15] <^demon>	But setting $wgDBadminuser in LocalSettings during install got reverted :)
[00:36:11] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Do not put "diff generator" comments into feeds - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20601  (10jidanni)
[00:36:13] <werdna>	Ryulong: why doesn't it use the damn API?
[00:36:21] <Ryulong>	I don't know
[00:36:39] <Annemarie>	the/dj is looking into it in #mediawiki-scripts
[00:36:44] <Ryulong>	it may be because I don't have it installed via gadgets
[00:37:07] <Ryulong>	but via js
[00:37:22] <Emufarmers>	^demon: sounds fixed to me.
[00:37:23] <MrZ-man>	werdna: because its old, huge, and scary
[00:37:41] <werdna>	it *deserves* to break then :)
[00:37:49] <^demon>	Emufarmers: As long as you make some note about how it's fixed in principle :)
[00:38:01] <Annemarie>	Much like Helen Thomas.
[00:38:22] <Ryulong>	not working still
[00:38:50] <Annemarie>	Shocking that your expert detective work failed.
[00:38:53] <CIA-12>	03werdna * r56469 10/branches/wmf-deployment/includes/specials/SpecialContributions.php: Merge contributions fixes from trunk r56468
[00:39:07] <OverlordQ>	!e Cite
[00:39:07] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite
[00:39:08] <werdna>	[andrew@zwinger specials]$ svn up SpecialContributions.php
[00:39:08] <werdna>	Permission denied (publickey,password).
[00:39:08] <werdna>	svn: Connection closed unexpectedly
[00:39:10] <werdna>	:(
[00:40:07] <atglenn>	ugh
[00:40:46] <werdna>	brion: I've merged to wmf-deployment, can you either append authorized_keys from zwinger to the svn server (mayflower?) or svn up yourself? :)
[00:40:56] <werdna>	can't seem to svn up :(
[00:41:04] <^demon>	wfm
[00:41:27] <brion>	moment
[00:41:31] <werdna>	no, on zwinger
[00:41:41] <^demon>	werdna: Yeah I just figured that out :p
[00:51:20] <CIA-12>	03brion * r56470 10/branches/wmf-deployment/includes/parser/Parser.php: 
[00:51:20] <CIA-12>	Revert r53832, r53897, r54145 "(bug 17988) Spaces before [[Category:]] links are no longer ignored" and followup
[00:51:20] <CIA-12>	Causes entire page to go blank under some circumstances.
[00:51:53] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Calling <slippymap> in a way that it doesn't expect will result in invalid JS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19581  (10N/A)
[00:53:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Old style <slippymap>x=y</slippymap> parameters should be optional and turned on with a config option, <slippymap x=y/> is the default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19582  (10hozanji)
[00:56:35] <thedj>	Ryulong: twinkle is broken due to the edit page not being proper xml. (and twinkle uses xml parsers).
[00:56:41] <CIA-12>	03werdna * r56471 10/trunk/phase3/includes/User.php: Fix bug where checking another user's blocked status (like for contributions) would cause you to be autoblocked if that user was blocked. Regression in r56325
[00:57:05] <Ryulong>	oh
[00:57:06] <Ryulong>	k
[00:57:23] <CIA-12>	03brion * r56472 10/trunk/phase3/includes/parser/Parser.php: 
[00:57:23] <CIA-12>	Revert r53832, r53897, r54145 "(bug 17988) Spaces before [[Category:]] links are no longer ignored" and followup
[00:57:23] <CIA-12>	Causes entire page to go blank under some circumstances.
[00:57:30] <CIA-12>	03werdna * r56473 10/branches/wmf-deployment/ (extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/Hooks.php includes/User.php): Merge autoblock bug fix r56471
[00:57:36] <thedj>	i think i found an obvious error in the html that might be the problem, and it has been reported.
[00:59:29] <brion>	up'ing
[00:59:42] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Spaces before [[Category:]] link are ignored - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17988  +comment (10brion)
[00:59:56] <brion>	thedj: oh goodie :D show me?
[01:00:47] <brion>		<div class='generated-sidebar portlet' id='p-site'Array>
[01:00:48] <brion>	rofl
[01:01:00] <AaronSchulz>	brion: did change_tag_rev_tag have an old name?
[01:01:42] <werdna>	ok, deploying
[01:01:45] <werdna>	AaronSchulz: yes
[01:01:48] <werdna>	ct_tag
[01:02:35] *werdna 	slaps Church_of_emacs for good measure
[01:03:46] <Church_of_emacs>	ouch
[01:03:59] *Church_of_emacs 	feels slapped :(
[01:04:05] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56475 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/ProblemChanges_body.php: Check crapy change_tag index variable
[01:04:07] <AaronSchulz>	brion: &
[01:04:15] <p858snake>	s/feels/is/
[01:04:15] <brion>	&what?
[01:04:15] <CIA-12>	03mrzman * r56474 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiUpload.php: Actually use the filename supplied by the user.
[01:04:17] <AaronSchulz>	grr, I mean "^"
[01:04:52] <brion>	sec
[01:05:07] *AaronSchulz 	is surprised that actually made sense
[01:06:49] <p858snake>	also in other news, the tech blog doesn't say how posted the article
[01:07:21] <brion>	p858snake: who?
[01:07:23] <CIA-12>	03brion * r56476 10/branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/ProblemChanges_body.php: merge r56475
[01:07:37] <p858snake>	yes that would be correct brion >.> <.<
[01:07:53] <brion>	p858snake: put it in bugzilla and assign it to rhalsell@wikimedia.org and cc me
[01:09:34] <Mike_lifeguard>	Any ideas as to why my wiki would be segfaulting, or where to get actual debugging information? apache error log is http://p.defau.lt/?cP0ui9hE4W2vQ3SftMqa9g
[01:09:57] <CIA-12>	03brion * r56477 10/branches/wmf-deployment/includes/Linker.php: array() -> '' for string return
[01:10:06] <OverlordQ>	build php with debugging get a dump get a backtrace in gdb
[01:10:28] <datura>	hi
[01:10:41] <datura>	<div class='generated-sidebar portlet' id='p-navigation'Array>
[01:10:44] <Mike_lifeguard>	OverlordQ: can you help me do that?
[01:10:48] <MrZ-man>	brion: can you sync r56474 too? a one-line change to ApiUpload
[01:11:02] <datura>	the "Array" shouldn't be there... (de.wikipedia)
[01:11:35] <thedj>	datura: brion is already looking at that bug. thx for reporting.
[01:11:49] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Tech Blog doesn't show post author - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20667 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (p858snake)
[01:11:59] <OverlordQ>	Mike_lifeguard: you using distro package or your own compile of php?
[01:12:10] <Mike_lifeguard>	the ubuntu package
[01:12:10] <datura>	thedj: that'S good. thx.
[01:12:17] <MrZ-man>	Mike_lifeguard: what rev of mediawiki?
[01:12:28] <Mike_lifeguard>	whatever we were on yesterday... sec
[01:12:42] <Mike_lifeguard>	(r55629)
[01:13:34] <MrZ-man>	are you using trunk or wfm-deployment?
[01:13:37] <MrZ-man>	*wmf
[01:13:57] <Mike_lifeguard>	trunk
[01:14:02] <brion>	MrZ-man: is api uploading enabled currently?
[01:14:04] <MrZ-man>	svn up to at least 55644
[01:14:08] <MrZ-man>	brion: yes
[01:14:12] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56478 10/trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: partial revert on r55573; livePreview() is still used
[01:14:15] <brion>	how long's it been enabled?
[01:14:26] <MrZ-man>	probably since the update
[01:14:36] <AaronSchulz>	brion: ^
[01:14:38] <brion>	then if it's not a regression since it didn't exist, let's just turn it off for now
[01:14:58] <Annemarie>	Ryulong: thedj fixed Twinkle.
[01:15:04] <Ryulong>	ok
[01:15:26] <brion>	blah, no way ot disable it?
[01:15:27] <brion>	ah wells then
[01:15:44] <MrZ-man>	it works, it just uses the wrong filename
[01:16:04] <Mike_lifeguard>	MrZ-man: thanks, that seems to have done it (wonder how wmf was running that rev without issue...)
[01:16:10] <MrZ-man>	its getting the filename from the file, rather than what the user said
[01:16:24] <MrZ-man>	Mike_lifeguard: wmf uses a special branch
[01:16:57] <MrZ-man>	and it was a weird PHP bug that caused segfaults in certain cases
[01:17:01] <MrZ-man>	!r 55644
[01:17:01] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/55644
[01:17:09] <Mike_lifeguard>	fun times
[01:17:32] <brion>	MrZ-man: what happens if you don't provide the filename parameter?
[01:17:41] <MrZ-man>	its required
[01:18:03] <MrZ-man>	if ( !isset( $this->mParams['filename'] ) )
[01:18:03] <MrZ-man>					$this->dieUsageMsg( array( 'missingparam', 'filename' ) );
[01:18:32] <brion>	ah there it is
[01:18:46] <^demon>	Ewww 55644 :)
[01:19:17] <CIA-12>	03dale * r56479 10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 3 dirs): 
[01:19:17] <CIA-12>	* Enhanced OutputPage to support js2 style javascript without scriptloader enabled
[01:19:17] <CIA-12>	** loadGM output
[01:19:17] <CIA-12>	** unique request id based on wikiTitle revision / file time
[01:19:17] <CIA-12>	* Moved jsAutoLoadClasses to setup.php ( made conditional )
[01:20:18] <CIA-12>	03brion * r56480 10/branches/wmf-deployment/includes/api/ApiUpload.php: Merge r56474 fix for api upload filename
[01:20:24] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56481 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/ProblemChanges_body.php: I was given wrong info, old name was ct_rev_id
[01:20:34] <AaronSchulz>	brion: r56478 and r56481 need merging
[01:20:47] <AaronSchulz>	no wonder that was going slow
[01:20:48] <MrZ-man>	yay
[01:21:40] *AaronSchulz 	merges 56481
[01:22:11] <brion>	AaronSchulz: where's live preview used?
[01:22:54] <AaronSchulz>	in EditPage.php
[01:23:19] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56482 10/branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/ProblemChanges_body.php: Merged r56481
[01:23:33] <AaronSchulz>	line 382
[01:23:42] <brion>	AaronSchulz: isn't that in an option that w've disabled cause it never worked right, and some folks are in the middle of redoing it, but using js2 which we haven't enabled?
[01:23:54] <brion>	so it's like double-disabled?
[01:24:04] <AaronSchulz>	well it is giving fatas
[01:24:06] <AaronSchulz>	*fatals
[01:24:15] <AaronSchulz>	so it should either be re-added or removed completely
[01:24:18] <brion>	where?
[01:24:19] <MrZ-man>	was it actually disabled? I thought it just never worked
[01:24:25] <AaronSchulz>	Sep 17 01:04:04 10.0.2.167 apache2[27746]: PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined method EditPage::livePreview() in /usr/local/apache/common-local/wmf-deployment/includes/EditPage.php on line 382
[01:24:29] <AaronSchulz>	lots of those
[01:24:32] <^demon>	MrZ-man: It never worked so it got disabled :)
[01:25:38] <^demon>	I remember when it was briefly on :p
[01:25:39] <brion>	AaronSchulz: looks like the code isn't properly guarded, probably somebody decided to 'exploit this wonderful feature' with an editor tool
[01:25:45] <Church_of_emacs>	is there a nice and easy way to check if a specific revision is live on wmf or not?
[01:25:57] <brion>	since it's not expected to work, it should be changed to guard with a check on $wgLivePreview
[01:25:58] <^demon>	Church_of_emacs: No.
[01:26:02] <Church_of_emacs>	:(
[01:26:17] <^demon>	Although everything from the branch point back is :)
[01:26:46] <Church_of_emacs>	is there a non-nice way to check except going to the wiki and testing if the features got included?
[01:26:50] <Mike_lifeguard>	would be lovely if we could get that somehow
[01:27:09] <brion>	validator now bitches that we leave off the type attributes on <script> elements
[01:27:10] <brion>	http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediawiki.org%2Fwiki%2FSpecial%3ABlankPage&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0
[01:27:23] <^demon>	Church_of_emacs: You can check commits to wmf-deployment and see what was merged.
[01:27:41] <Mike_lifeguard>	I don't know whether a deployment branch actually makes life easier (today would be a good example to look at) for the sysadmins, but it is confusing for everyone else :)
[01:27:57] <Church_of_emacs>	yes, that's what I've been doing, ^demon. I just thought, maybe there was a better way... ;)
[01:28:11] <datura>	MrZ-man: you seem to be working on ApiUpload - how far from being complete is it?
[01:28:25] <MrZ-man>	I just made one fix, it seems to work fine
[01:28:26] <^demon>	Mike_lifeguard: It just makes the rev numbers on Special:Version for WMF arguably useless :)
[01:28:47] <Church_of_emacs>	Well, the fact that something is in the deployment branch doesn't make it life, right? You also have to check for Server admin log... :-/
[01:28:50] <Mike_lifeguard>	^demon: s/arguably// :)
[01:29:00] <MrZ-man>	mdale would probably know more
[01:29:31] <^demon>	Church_of_emacs: In general when things get put in the branch they get sync'd, but I guess you're technically correct.
[01:29:41] <^demon>	Going from the wmf-deployment commits is pretty safe.
[01:29:44] <Church_of_emacs>	ok
[01:30:04] <mdale>	hmm this does not look right: http://test.wikipedia.org/w/api.php
[01:30:18] <MrZ-man>	Mike_lifeguard: see the last few lines from http://toolserver.org/~mzmcbride/cgi-bin/mw-logs.py?path=%23mediawiki&search=.*brion.*svn.*
[01:30:20] <brion>	mdale: it's a caching problem
[01:30:32] <brion>	http://test.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?e <- just fine when you can get at the actual file
[01:30:38] <brion>	something may be fucked in our squid purging
[01:30:51] <MrZ-man>	[21:13:39] *brion 	begins to hate branch merging in svn ;)
[01:31:07] <Mike_lifeguard>	yep :)
[01:31:14] <Mike_lifeguard>	maybe regretting it now
[01:31:17] <brion>	Church_of_emacs: just check Special:Version
[01:31:23] <mdale>	MrZ-man: see action=upload in http://test.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?e ;)
[01:31:36] <MrZ-man>	mdale: datura was the one asking
[01:31:42] <mdale>	ah :)
[01:32:22] <mdale>	datura: more importantly see action=upload on http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php ;)
[01:32:36] <atglenn>	it's fine on en pedia, just not on test. 
[01:32:49] <Mike_lifeguard>	would it be safe to take the rev from special:version of *wmf-deployment* instead of trunk?
[01:33:00] *Mike_lifeguard 	wonders how that'd work for differences in extensions...
[01:33:32] <^demon>	Church_of_emacs: If everyone merged to wmf-deployment and not one of the subdirectories, you could potentially check svn:mergeinfo. But if people merge to a subdir or file, it's not reliable :)
[01:34:38] <datura>	mdale: yee-haaa. no more screen-scrapping. soon :)
[01:36:31] <mdale>	datura: yea I will try and do a blog post soon highlighting some gadgets with all the fun media components that will now work with the new upload branch in there ;)
[01:42:06] <Annemarie>	ExpandTemplates? Splarka is a fan: http://toolserver.org/~mzmcbride/cgi-bin/mw-logs.py?path=%23mediawiki&search=http.*ExpandTemplates
[01:43:54] *Church_of_emacs 	dislikes new special:allmessages interface... It was so easy to just load the page and Ctrl+F for system messages...
[01:44:18] <^demon>	Church_of_emacs: And it also took about 3 hours to load.
[01:44:21] <Church_of_emacs>	Now it's impossible. And you can't even use Special:Search for messages that are unchanged
[01:45:46] <OverlordQ>	not that hard to figure out the msg though, just take the div id plug it into the box, there ya go
[01:45:47] <Annemarie>	Also caused memory issues for some people to load it.
[01:45:47] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56483 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/ProblemChanges_body.php: query optimization
[01:45:58] <^demon>	Annemarie: Yep
[01:46:35] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56484 10/branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/FlaggedRevs/specialpages/ProblemChanges_body.php: merged r56483
[01:46:39] <Annemarie>	They paginated with a proper search?
[01:46:42] <Annemarie>	Who let that through?
[01:46:50] <Annemarie>	Without *
[01:47:14] *Emufarmers 	sets a stab-trap for when Happy-melon returns.
[01:47:35] *GreenReaper 	seconds the "stab for pages" option.
[01:48:01] *Annemarie 	sneaks up behind charitwo and tackles him.
[01:48:15] <^demon>	That would be naasssttttyyy.
[01:48:28] <Annemarie>	What would?
[01:48:29] <charitwo>	yeah, ^demon. Annemarie is kinda greasy
[01:48:38] <Annemarie>	Lies.
[01:48:40] <Annemarie>	I just washed up.
[01:48:49] <^demon>	charitwo: No I was referring to search on allmessages :p
[01:48:58] <Annemarie>	Why would that be nasty?
[01:49:04] <Annemarie>	Nastier than never being able to find a message? :P
[01:49:18] <MrZ-man>	&limit=5000 ?
[01:49:29] *Annemarie 	sets MrZ-man to limit=-1
[01:49:36] <^demon>	Sure it'd be a nice feature. But I can't think of a non-nasty implementation offhand :p
[01:49:48] <Annemarie>	Shell out to grep!
[01:50:09] <MrZ-man>	^demon: make the search engine index all system messages and then search the mw namespace?
[01:50:27] <Annemarie>	It's hard for an indexer to search pages that don't exist.
[01:51:01] <^demon>	:)
[01:51:18] <^demon>	And remember that WMF keeps their messages in CDB, so we can't just query the db :p
[01:54:18] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56485 10/branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/ReaderFeedback/specialpages/RatedPages_body.php: merged r56466
[01:55:15] <Annemarie>	tomaszf: What's the status of HTML dumps of Wikipedia (like en.wiki articles)?
[01:55:47] <tomaszf>	all past en history are run and delivered each week
[01:55:56] <tomaszf>	been releasing that regularly for months now
[01:55:58] <tomaszf>	:D
[01:56:06] <tomaszf>	and the new code update just fixed Abstracts
[01:56:11] <tomaszf>	not i just have to track what did it
[01:56:28] <Annemarie>	If I wanted the current HTML of all en.wiki articles, is that available somewhere?
[01:56:34] <Annemarie>	static.wikipedia.org seems to be ancient.
[01:56:42] <tomaszf>	sadly not the current, its the 2008 version on static
[01:56:54] <Annemarie>	So what's being delivered each week? 
[01:56:56] <tomaszf>	i started toying with dumpHTML this week as lots of projects want it
[01:56:59] <tomaszf>	XML
[01:57:06] <Mike_lifeguard>	Church_of_emacs: I agree, we need to be able to search the messages :\
[01:57:10] <Annemarie>	Ahh. That's at dumps.wm.o?
[01:57:20] <Emufarmers>	http://static.wikipedia.org/
[01:57:22] <tomaszf>	download.wikipedia.org
[01:57:26] <tomaszf>	for the xml snapshots
[01:57:47] <Annemarie>	They look vaguely the same. ;-)
[01:57:49] <Annemarie>	Thanks. 
[01:58:15] <tomaszf>	i need to attach a profiler to dumpHTML and see if the slow down is on images, text retrieval or simply formatting
[01:58:27] <^demon>	Hehe, Chris Brown was spotted in town today starting his community service.
[01:58:35] <tomaszf>	was sloooow for enwiki when i ran it on monday ... 1000 page ids in 15ish minutes
[01:58:36] <Emufarmers>	I thought it didn't even dump the images?
[01:58:45] <tomaszf>	and when you need to push through 20+ million .. that just wont do
[01:58:55] <Annemarie>	Where are the dumps for, say, last week?
[01:59:02] <Annemarie>	The current enwiki one appears to be in progress.
[01:59:07] <tomaszf>	http://download.wikipedia.org/enwiki/
[01:59:20] <tomaszf>	you have it back to july there
[01:59:20] <Annemarie>	Tricky, tricky.
[01:59:27] <Annemarie>	Lovely, thanks. :-)
[01:59:33] <tomaszf>	or as i call it .. crappy interface!
[01:59:36] <tomaszf>	:D
[02:00:06] <tomaszf>	really each wiki should have a separate page that listed the last set of runs  and wether they succeeded or not
[02:00:23] <Annemarie>	That'd be nice, yeah.
[02:00:42] <tomaszf>	but consistency wise we've been really good for the last set of months, very little failure unlike the dark days were dev/sys admins feared touching this stuff 
[02:00:53] <tomaszf>	and/or didn't care
[02:01:05] <Church_of_emacs>	Mike_lifeguard, it's that attitude: "we have to serve everything in small bits, even if the users will have to click 100 times". If you ask me, people who go to Special:Allmessages mostly know it's a large page. On an older system, it used to crash my browser, so I avoided Special:Allmessages. I just used wget to get the page. I didn't want it to change to something useless as it is now
[02:01:41] <^demon>	Church_of_emacs: You can set limit=5000 on it and get the same effect?
[02:02:10] <MrZ-man>	I think part of the problem was that if a site didn't have a memory limit like 200M it wouldn't load at all
[02:02:28] <Emufarmers>	Eh, the memory limit never needed to be _that_ high.
[02:02:42] <tomaszf>	do we have any good visualizer for svn.wikimedia wmf-depoyment changes? .. i want to track down which changes seemingly fixed retrieval of history blobs
[02:02:45] <Emufarmers>	Church_of_emacs: there's a selector drop-down for how many you want it to show.
[02:03:21] <Church_of_emacs>	oh, actually that's true. I thought the limit for number-of-max-items per page was mostly 500?
[02:03:34] <Annemarie>	It usually is.
[02:03:41] <Annemarie>	For non-admins, at least.
[02:04:16] <^demon>	tomaszf: wmf-deployment is from r56150, I can say that much with certainty :)
[02:04:21] <Annemarie>	tomaszf: Not really. Usually you just find the relevant file and look at its log.
[02:04:40] <tomaszf>	^demon: thanks .. that's a good enough starting point
[02:04:52] <^demon>	No problem.
[02:05:25] *tomaszf 	would also like the modern use of a search system on our code viewer :D
[02:05:39] <Church_of_emacs>	okay, limit=5000 does the trick. I'll stop whining now :)
[02:06:06] <GreenReaper>	"No no, no no there's no limit . .."
[02:06:08] <tomaszf>	if only opengrok didn't have to come with a java stack to mange then i'd install it
[02:16:05] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56486 10/trunk/phase3/includes/templates/Userlogin.php: partial revert of r55447: breaks url wpName prefilling
[02:17:34] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56487 10/branches/wmf-deployment/includes/templates/Userlogin.php: merged r56486: partial revert of r55447: breaks url wpName prefilling
[02:19:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Yahoo abstracts are incomplete or empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19046  (10tfinc)
[02:24:53] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56488 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialUserrights.php: Actually declare $wgOut ;)
[02:25:39] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56489 10/branches/wmf-deployment/includes/specials/SpecialUserrights.php: Merged r56488: declare $wgOut to avoid fatal
[02:26:43] <OverlordQ>	who needs pesky things like that ;D
[02:29:07] <AaronSchulz>	ok livePreview() fatal still there
[02:52:40] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Yahoo abstracts are incomplete or empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19046  (10tfinc)
[02:58:46] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56490 10/trunk/extensions/ReaderFeedback/specialpages/RatedPages_body.php: Make graph links default from 1->3 month range
[04:05:42] <sebash_>	hi in 1.16 there is a bugfix to display the following syntax correctly: #<li value="3"> three, has anyone an idea how I can find the respective code?
[04:05:56] <sebash_>	i have to backport the fix in 1.14.1
[04:06:16] <wikibugs>	03(mod) crashes when content of <source> is too long - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20656  (10wonder)
[04:06:27] <sebash_>	i already queries bugzilla.. but  there are zarroo bugs :/
[04:06:31] <sebash_>	queried
[04:10:18] *Splarka 	wonders if that isn't just tidy having fun
[04:13:16] <sebash_>	Splarka you think it is related to tidy?
[04:14:20] <Splarka>	dunno, where do you observe this correct behavior? what 1.16 installation?
[04:16:30] <CIA-12>	03philip * r56491 10/trunk/phase3/languages/LanguageConverter.php: Follow up on r53041. Fix a __NOCC__ failure caused by myself and I'm stupid to report it on #Wikimedia-tech!
[04:17:18] <sebash_>	The mediawiki.org sandbox
[04:18:06] <sebash_>	and when I add $wgUseTidy = false; to my LocalSettings then it doesn't work either
[04:18:13] <sebash_>	so I guess its a parsing thing
[04:18:17] <Splarka>	hmm, the relevant code would be around function doBlockLevels in includes/parser/Parser.php
[04:18:32] <Splarka>	you had tidy enabled before?
[04:18:36] <sebash_>	yes I've replaced the one in 1.14 with the one of the svn trunk
[04:18:37] <sebash_>	yes
[04:18:47] <sebash_>	actually i don't know
[04:18:52] <Splarka>	well, WMF uses tidy
[04:18:56] <Splarka>	and most other wikis do not
[04:19:06] <Splarka>	so that is a source for odd differences that people often complain of
[04:19:24] <sebash_>	okay... I tried it with true and false
[04:19:31] <sebash_>	and it doesn't affect the rendering
[04:19:43] *Splarka 	checks if tw uses tidy
[04:19:46] <sebash_>	but you think the problem must be somewhere in the Parser class?
[04:20:17] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Enhanced Editor Bar hanging on IE 8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20668 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (rohde)
[04:20:26] <Splarka>	if it isn't tidy, then it is very possible it is in the code that does the block levels
[04:21:00] <sebash_>	okay... I guess I have to bite the apple and get through this code
[04:21:06] <Splarka>	if I say tidy enough when the parser does something odd, TimStarling will come yell at me that "<TimStarling> It's not Lupus, er tidy" and then help you
[04:21:49] <sebash_>	since it's fixed in 1.16 I guess I'll just have to check the parser class
[04:21:56] <Splarka>	http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/parser/Parser.php?view=annotate
[04:22:01] <sebash_>	at least I wasnt looking in the wrong direction
[04:22:04] <Splarka>	you say "fixed" like it's a good thing
[04:22:12] <Splarka>	that is horrible syntax to continue list items in wikitext
[04:22:22] <Splarka>	I'd place even odds on it being a bug ^_^
[04:23:58] <Splarka>	just a note, 1.14 was branched at 45547
[04:24:03] <Splarka>	so you're looking for revisions newer than that
[04:27:16] <CIA-12>	03mrzman * r56492 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php: 
[04:27:16] <CIA-12>	Fix logic error from r54153. By negating each individual isAllowed check, the OR statement would return true
[04:27:16] <CIA-12>	(and not allow the action) if the user didn't have both rights rather than checking if he has either one.
[04:27:39] <sebash_>	Splarka.. I'm currently diffing the versions
[04:27:46] <sebash_>	maybe I'll find something
[04:27:49] <sebash_>	thanks a lot
[04:28:18] <MrZ-man>	Aaron|away: if you're still aound, r56492 should fix the "sysops can't edit user CSS/JS anymore" thing
[04:28:19] <Splarka>	sebash_: still betting on tidy
[04:28:53] <Splarka>	hmm
[04:30:18] <Splarka>	getting the same results without tidy, maybe someone *did* fix it
[04:30:36] <Splarka>	but I can't imagine who would use such syntax
[04:30:48] <Splarka>	oh
[04:30:51] <Splarka>	I see what tidy did
[04:30:54] <sebash_>	its even in the manual
[04:31:05] <sebash_>	the syntax
[04:31:08] <Emufarmers>	I see what tidy did thar
[04:31:48] <Splarka>	http://p.defau.lt/?HXXYDZpHNwl9CkiRKC9xuw
[04:31:58] <Splarka>	all tidy does is remove the extra <li></li>
[04:32:29] <Splarka>	the proper syntax is... #foo<li value="5">bar rather than #<li value="5">bar 
[04:32:44] <Splarka>	sebash_: which manual?
[04:34:11] <sebash_>	http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:List
[04:34:27] <sebash_>	check: Specifying a starting value
[04:36:30] <Splarka>	there are still help pages on meta? yikes
[04:37:11] <sDrewth>	 with AWB, are logins with that application specifically disabled?
[04:37:21] <sDrewth>	or is it a discrepancy b/w the upgrade and AWB?
[04:37:54] <sebash_>	that's why im having this whole "situation" i'm personally not so keen on this function but "someone" discovered these infos
[04:40:59] <Splarka>	http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:List&diff=1342633&oldid=1239421
[04:41:02] <Splarka>	hmmm
[04:44:51] <AlexSm>	werdna: AbuseFilter is a bit broken, need fix asap or at least disable some enwiki filters that currently generate lots of false positives: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=314476274
[04:46:02] <sebash_>	thats interesting
[04:46:08] <sebash_>	I'll just recommend using HTML
[04:46:19] <sebash_>	thanks so much
[04:46:46] <Splarka>	so, that help was added before 1.15 branch
[04:46:59] <Splarka>	so this behavior is in 1.15, apparently
[04:47:28] <Splarka>	so you can narrow it down between  45547 and 46000
[04:47:32] <Splarka>	ish
[04:49:39] <sebash_>	okay thanks
[04:50:53] <sebash_>	I'll go to sleep now.. past 12 is too late to do some serious code reading
[04:50:58] <sebash_>	thanks so much again!
[05:06:08] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Check available codecs before using audio or video tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20664  (10tstarling)
[06:25:32] <tommythreepwood>	Hi there! Short question 'bout $wgCacheEpoch. Is it possible to use something like "$wgCacheEpoch = 'date +%Y%m%d020100';" in the LocalSettings.php to flush (server and client-based) cache every day at 02:01?
[06:25:50] <Annemarie>	Oh dear.
[06:25:54] <Annemarie>	Why would you want to do that?
[06:26:55] <tommythreepwood>	Cause most of the pages in this intranet wiki contain templates with informations which are relevant just for the current weekday
[06:28:09] <tommythreepwood>	and most of the users never heard of pressing Shift + Reload in their browsers if  they see yesterdays schedule
[06:28:59] <p858snake>	Then why are you using templates for that information, surely putting that data directly into the article page would be wiser
[06:29:04] <Annemarie>	Well, shift+reload also probably wouldn't work... you usually need to append ?action=purge to the page.
[06:29:27] <Annemarie>	No idea if your hack will work. You could just disable cache altogether.
[06:34:27] <tommythreepwood>	I'm using templates because the information is used on multiple pages (and refreshing all the articles would be cleaner, but even more work :-P). Additionaly, most of of todays information will be relevant on upcoming monday (so we juse {{TimetableA_{{CURRENTDAYNAME}}}} etc.) in the articles and just modify the templates when needed. So thanks a lot, i'll wait for next night and check out the results :-)
[06:36:33] <tommythreepwood>	Cache disabling would surely be the easiest way, but the server performance is already somewhere between poor and very poor
[06:36:41] <tommythreepwood>	But once again, thx and bye
[06:38:29] <apergos>	you wouldn't be a 
[06:38:34] <apergos>	monkey island player
[06:38:36] <apergos>	would you?
[06:39:42] <tommythreepwood>	sure i was and am addicted to melee, monkey, scubb and all the other islands out there
[06:39:49] <apergos>	:-D
[06:40:06] <apergos>	those were some fine games
[06:40:30] <tommythreepwood>	100% ACK
[06:41:05] <apergos>	well, have a good night (I'm gonna stop looking at the channel my own self or I"ll never get to sleep)
[06:41:07] <tommythreepwood>	but unfortunately i've got some work to do now :-P, so have a nice day everyone
[06:41:35] <tommythreepwood>	good night
[07:06:26] <CIA-12>	03siebrand * r56493 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/TranslateEditAddons.php: 
[07:06:26] <CIA-12>	Revert r56465: spewing notices
[07:06:26] <CIA-12>	PHP Notice: Undefined variable: this in /var/www/w/extensions/Translate/TranslateEditAddons.php on line 443
[07:06:26] <CIA-12>	PHP Notice: Undefined variable: this in /var/www/w/extensions/Translate/TranslateEditAddons.php on line 563
[07:10:24] <Nikerabbit>	hmm
[07:10:33] <Nikerabbit>	"merged fatal fix"
[07:10:37] <Nikerabbit>	morning btw
[07:15:59] <Danny_B>	where did the paginator from special:contributions go?
[07:16:58] <TimStarling>	there was a patch to make the navigation bars disappear if there's only one page to display
[07:17:11] <TimStarling>	it's for all pagers
[07:18:18] <Splarka>	huh, tablepager too
[07:18:46] <TimStarling>	there's a bug in it, see if you can find it
[07:19:43] <flyingparchment>	if there are 200 items, and you click 500, you can't change back to 50?
[07:19:59] <Splarka>	http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles?limit=1000
[07:20:25] <TimStarling>	yep, that's the one
[07:20:31] <Splarka>	you can on the tablepager since the dropdown doesn't disappear
[07:20:43] <Splarka>	heh
[07:20:55] <flyingparchment>	that's a pretty obvious bug... didn't anyone notice it during review?
[07:20:59] <Splarka>	don't you love 'accessability' issues that assume that people are too stupid to know how to click "back"
[07:21:19] <Splarka>	"how can I possibly go back without a link!?"
[07:21:31] <TimStarling>	there wasn't really much review this time around
[07:21:42] <Danny_B>	Splarka: if i have by default pagers set to 500 and i'm watching some page with less than 500 but i want say only 50 i'm stucked
[07:22:02] <TimStarling>	I don't know if I even found all the security vulnerabilities
[07:22:12] <Splarka>	Danny_B: guess it is the URI centric in me
[07:22:42] <Splarka>	I can type the ugly link to view the history of the en.wp VP/T faster than I can click 3 links to get to it
[07:23:08] <Splarka>	(dialup)
[07:23:13] <Danny_B>	me too, but uri changing isn't for ordinary users
[07:23:22] <Splarka>	oh Tim, did you see the guy earlier, sebash_
[07:23:37] <Splarka>	#foo<li value="3">bar
[07:23:41] <TimStarling>	yes
[07:23:57] <Splarka>	where/who would that have changed? I looked at doBlocks and my ears bled
[07:23:58] <Danny_B>	TimStarling: hello, did you get my question about subpages linking the other day by any chance?
[07:24:04] <TimStarling>	but I chose to continue my work instead of help him with that
[07:24:11] <Splarka>	damn yous!
[07:24:19] *Splarka 	flings vegemite blobs at tim
[07:24:28] <TimStarling>	Danny_B: was it a private message?
[07:24:42] <Danny_B>	yep
[07:25:02] <TimStarling>	probably not then
[07:25:07] <TimStarling>	my IRC is so broken
[07:25:44] *Danny_B 	is digging the history
[07:26:01] <TimStarling>	currently I'm surveying the code to work out where all the CSS and JS comes from and goes to
[07:26:34] <Danny_B>	when you have subpages in such ns turned on and on page "foo" you have wikitext [[/bar/]], it links to foo/bar instead of foo/bar/ (so in fact [[/bar/]] has equal behavior to [[/bar|bar]])
[07:26:50] <Danny_B>	is that a bug or feature?
[07:26:54] <TimStarling>	looks like this (far from complete): http://p.defau.lt/?79SdA0Gtxb68dfLcLUloJg
[07:26:56] <Danny_B>	seems rather as a bug to me since i can imagine several cases of subpages ending with slash, but i saw people using this short syntax [[/bar/]] instead of longer [[/bar|bar]] (since it's shorter ant hey're lazy to type of course ;-))
[07:28:07] <TimStarling>	Danny_B: bug vs feature is subjective
[07:28:22] <TimStarling>	it's probably deliberate
[07:28:36] <TimStarling>	that doesn't mean it's a good idea
[07:29:05] <Splarka>	Tim: not sure if useful to you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Catalogue_of_CSS_classes
[07:29:09] <Splarka>	it is a bit out of date too
[07:29:10] <Danny_B>	yeah, i consider it as unexpected/unpredicable behavior
[07:29:58] <Danny_B>	especially when [[foo/bar/]] links to foo/bar/ (= we can have pages ending with slashes)
[07:30:50] <Danny_B>	gtg... TimStarling: would you like me to file a bug about it?
[07:31:52] <TimStarling>			# /Foobar/ -- convert to CurrentPage/Foobar, strip the initial / from text
[07:31:55] <TimStarling>	it's even documented
[07:31:58] <Annemarie>	I think changing the behavior of [[/Archive 1/]] would upset a lot of people.
[07:32:29] <TimStarling>					$trailingSlashes = preg_match_all( '%(/+)$%', $target, $m );
[07:32:29] <TimStarling>					if( $trailingSlashes ) {
[07:32:29] <TimStarling>						$noslash = $target = substr( $target, 1, -strlen($m[0][0]) );
[07:32:41] <Danny_B>	the documentation says strip the *initial* slash,not the ending
[07:32:59] <TimStarling>	no, it says both
[07:33:08] <Danny_B>	ah, ok then
[07:33:11] <TimStarling>	it says it converts to CurrentPage/Foobar, not CurrentPage/Foobar/
[07:33:15] <Danny_B>	i reacted to your snippet here
[07:33:41] <Danny_B>	right
[07:33:55] <TimStarling>	Annemarie says people use it
[07:33:58] <Danny_B>	maybe the second sentence could be tweaked a bit then
[07:34:07] <TimStarling>	so I think the chances of it changing are approximately zero
[07:34:40] <Danny_B>	yes, i mentioned that it's been used. but it's easy to run a one time one purpose bot to fix all the occurencies
[07:34:54] <Annemarie>	I gave the use case. 
[07:35:04] <Danny_B>	since the fixing is easy
[07:35:07] <Annemarie>	A one-time bot for all MW installs ever? ;-)
[07:35:28] <Nikerabbit>	Danny_B: why would you want to see only 50?
[07:35:48] <Splarka>	"easy" compared to "hard": not changing it
[07:35:49] <Danny_B>	Annemarie: well, then there could be some fix script attached to installation of mw
[07:35:56] <Splarka>	or "difficult": time travel
[07:36:11] <Annemarie>	Danny_B: What's the benefit of breaking the syntax?
[07:36:14] <Annemarie>	It's pretty convenient.
[07:36:21] *Splarka 	never uses pipe tricks or relative paths because they are unpredictable
[07:36:33] <Danny_B>	Annemarie: the syntax is already broken actually, it's _fixing_
[07:36:46] <Splarka>	example: on mw.org the Help namespace has subpaging
[07:36:48] <Danny_B>	you can't link to subpages ending with slashes this way
[07:36:55] <Splarka>	but when you import it into a wiki that doesn't, relative links break
[07:37:12] <Danny_B>	good point, Splarka 
[07:37:20] <Splarka>	Danny_B: so don't use relative links ^_^
[07:37:32] <Danny_B>	i don't, people do ;-)
[07:37:32] <Annemarie>	Who ends a page with a /?
[07:37:38] <Splarka>	people suck
[07:39:04] <Danny_B>	Annemarie: if it's a part of the name, or eg. the syntax (say you're docummenting some programming language or so...) etc...
[07:40:47] <Danny_B>	anyway, i gtg. i'll file a bug, because then more people can express there and at least it will be a documentation for next people's questions if wontfixed
[07:41:01] <Danny_B>	have a nice day/night, guys
[07:41:51] <Splarka>	rar
[07:43:31] <Splarka>	11747 Trailing slashes should be ignored when subpages are enabled
[07:44:03] <Splarka>	oh, that's for links
[07:46:53] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Navigable TOC : The functionality is missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20669 blocker; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (wikibugs)
[08:14:34] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) IE 8 is getting stuck when page edit link is clicked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20670 critical; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (wikibugs)
[08:23:28] <TimStarling>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Tim_Starling/CSS_and_JS_caller_survey_(r56220)
[08:25:37] <TimStarling>	obviously the skins are where the complexity is
[08:25:59] <TimStarling>	the non-skin modules usually just call addScriptFile
[08:26:05] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) wgRestrictionsEdit changed from array to object in JS variables served on each page: breaks a great many Javascripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20671 major; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (lupo.bugzilla)
[08:31:21] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Remove extra space between the diff table rows - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20672 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Vector Skin; (claymore.ws)
[08:31:37] <Nikerabbit>	werdna: #20671 is for you :o
[08:32:44] <CIA-12>	03purodha * r56494 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/TranslateEditAddons.php: Fix r56463.
[08:33:14] <p858snake>	bah, just tell them to suck it up and fix their gadgets >.>
[08:33:20] <CIA-12>	03siebrand * r56495 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (DefaultSettings.php OutputPage.php): Add setting $wgAJAXCategoriesNamespaces to allow configuring namespaces for where the category add/remove widget is used when $wgUseAJAXCategories is set to true. Default behaviour has been left unchanged.
[08:33:29] <p858snake>	it's like things still using the old method for botting compared to the api
[08:34:34] <Nikerabbit>	uh
[08:34:41] <Nikerabbit>	it's not bots, it's user javascripts
[08:35:24] <p858snake>	notice the word "like"
[08:37:15] <Nikerabbit>	that is part of their "api", and it has changed
[09:12:10] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Advanced toolbar is not available in IE 7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20673 critical; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (wikibugs)
[09:31:30] <CIA-12>	03werdna * r56496 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Xml.php: In Xml::encodeJsVar, keep backwards compatibility by encoding empty arrays as empty arrays rather than empty objects. Regression in r56032, reported as bug 20671
[09:32:19] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) wgUseAJAXCategories forms do not allow <enter> to save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20674 enhancement; Normal; mwEmbed: General/Unknown; (siebrand)
[09:33:16] <CIA-12>	03werdna * r56497 10/branches/wmf-deployment/includes/Xml.php: Merge r56496 (JS variable regression)
[09:36:44] <ThomasV>	TimStarling: I've modified PdfHandler in order to extract the ocr text layer there too; it would be great if you could have a look
[09:38:20] <ThomasV>	I did not store it as xml, because it was not using xml in the first place
[09:40:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) pt.wikipedia - logo change - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20659  +comment (10Platonides)
[09:40:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) wgRestrictionsEdit changed from array to object in JS variables served on each page: breaks a great many Javascripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20671  +comment (10eusebius)
[09:41:32] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) wgUseAJAXCategories feature does not work in certain scenarios - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20675 enhancement; Normal; mwEmbed: General/Unknown; (siebrand)
[09:42:14] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Problem with flood flag on Polish Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20492  +comment (10danny.leinad)
[09:44:34] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Search & replace : Icon is not available in IE 6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20676 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (wikibugs)
[09:45:40] <Duesentrieb>	ThomasV: the folks working on the TIFF handler used the PDF handler as a model. they are also looking into handling the text layer, and may want to generalize some things common to multi-page formats.
[09:45:50] <Duesentrieb>	ThomasV: like to get in touch?
[09:46:33] <ThomasV>	Duesentrieb: I am not sure if what I did is a good model :-/
[09:46:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) wgUseAJAXCategories feature does not work in certain scenarios - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20675  15enhancement->normal (10siebrand)
[09:46:55] <wikibugs>	03(mod) wgUseAJAXCategories forms do not allow <enter> to save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20674  15enhancement->normal (10siebrand)
[09:47:11] <Duesentrieb>	ThomasV: well, they looked at djvu too. also, knowing your concerns may also be helpful.
[09:47:15] <ThomasV>	basically, I'd like to know why djvu metadata uses xml and pdf does not 
[09:47:51] <ThomasV>	brion changed the pdf handler format, from xml to php array
[09:48:18] <Duesentrieb>	well, sionce it's for internal storage, using serialized php seems to be smarter
[09:48:34] <Duesentrieb>	xml is good as an exchange format. not much point in using it for internal storage. it just adds overhead.
[09:48:55] <ThomasV>	ok, but why did they keep xml for the djvu handler ? this is not consistent 
[09:49:09] <Duesentrieb>	because no one changed it. that's my guess :)
[09:50:03] <ThomasV>	does the tiff format allow to have a text layer ? 
[09:50:17] <Duesentrieb>	yes.
[09:50:38] *ThomasV 	just realized 'T' is for tagged
[09:50:38] <Duesentrieb>	it's a container format. it can contain pretty much anything
[09:50:48] <ThomasV>	I see
[09:51:20] <ThomasV>	well, I just hope my code will be reviewed at some point :-)
[09:51:37] <ThomasV>	I don't feel like working on tiff for the moment
[09:52:27] <Duesentrieb>	ThomasV: i'm not asking you too - they get payed to do it. just though you might be interested in exchanging thoughts.
[09:52:55] <CIA-12>	03werdna * r56498 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/AbuseFilter.hooks.php: Fix bug where noarticletext was being used as the old_wikitext for created pages
[09:53:15] <ThomasV>	they get paid by wmf ?
[09:53:50] <CIA-12>	03siebrand * r56499 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesVi.php: Localisation updates for namespace names from translatewiki.net. Also fixes bug 20639.
[09:54:54] <werdna>	no, by wmde
[09:55:05] <CIA-12>	03werdna * r56500 10/branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/AbuseFilter/ (AbuseFilter.class.php AbuseFilter.hooks.php): Merge r56498, AbuseFilter regression
[09:55:31] <Duesentrieb>	ThomasV: by wmde
[09:55:35] <ThomasV>	Duesentrieb: who are they ? are they in the channel ?
[09:56:08] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Change Vietnamese localization of "Template:" namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20639  +comment (10siebrand)
[09:56:22] <Duesentrieb>	ThomasV: they are a company specializing in custom installs of mediawiki for companies. http://www.hallowiki.biz/
[09:56:42] <Duesentrieb>	i don't think they are in the channel, but i have no way to know for sure :)
[09:56:52] <ThomasV>	I see :)
[09:57:18] <Duesentrieb>	it's one of the five contracts we offered earier this year.
[09:58:17] <guillom>	Duesentrieb, hi! How's the assessment of the effect of FlaggedRevs going?
[09:58:41] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) wgRestrictionsEdit changed from array to object in JS variables served on each page: breaks a great many Javascripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20671  +comment (10agarrett)
[09:58:51] <Duesentrieb>	guillom: stuck in legal red tape. bound to get moving again soon.
[09:59:01] <guillom>	ok :)
[09:59:05] <Duesentrieb>	getting a contract ready for this proved really tricky.
[09:59:21] <Duesentrieb>	making the lawyers happy... ugh.
[09:59:25] <guillom>	héhé
[09:59:37] <guillom>	what's the bottleneck? The privacy policy?
[09:59:55] <Duesentrieb>	they make you treat people you want to have good cooperations with like an enemy. that'S w3hat sucks so much about contracts.
[10:00:32] <Duesentrieb>	no, there is no actual nasty problem. the lawyers are just not happy that it's hard to actually define what the result of study is supposed to look like
[10:00:50] <guillom>	ah, I see
[10:00:57] <Duesentrieb>	if we had the expertiese to evaulate if the study is "right" in the end, we wouldn'tr have to hire others to make it in the first place.
[10:01:04] <guillom>	true
[10:01:12] <Duesentrieb>	stupid :)
[10:01:28] <guillom>	the trickiest thing with SMART goals is not to reach them, but to define them in the first place :)
[10:01:37] <Duesentrieb>	yep
[10:01:44] <Duesentrieb>	and doing so in legal terms...
[10:01:51] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Search & replace : Icon is not available in IE 6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20676  +comment (10Platonides)
[10:01:54] <guillom>	even trickier, yes
[10:02:00] <ThomasV>	Duesentrieb: you hired external consultants to assess the effect of Flaggedrevs ?
[10:02:10] <Duesentrieb>	ThomasV: yes.
[10:02:10] <guillom>	they're trying to
[10:02:17] <Duesentrieb>	yea :)
[10:02:28] <ThomasV>	how familiar with wikipedia are they ?
[10:02:51] <Duesentrieb>	pretty familiar
[10:03:25] <Duesentrieb>	i'm itching to tell you more, but i'm not sure i should before the contract is actually signed :P
[10:03:43] <Duesentrieb>	let's just say they know what they are doing
[10:03:50] *ThomasV 	will not ask more
[10:04:22] <ThomasV>	oh, I cannot resist to ask if they will insert false informations and check whether it is spotted
[10:04:44] <ThomasV>	scientifically, ya know
[10:04:53] <Duesentrieb>	no, it's purly a statistical analysis of log data of the last couple of years.
[10:05:21] <Duesentrieb>	it's evaluation, not an experiment
[10:05:25] <ThomasV>	too bad :-) I was fantasizing a double blind experiment
[10:06:01] <CIA-12>	03siebrand * r56501 10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Add $wgUseAJAXCategories and $wgAJAXCategoriesNamespaces to RELEASE-NOTES. Related to features added in r56032 and r56495
[10:16:05] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) bug in uploading new version on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20677 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: File/Repo; (jan.dudik)
[10:17:10] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) List of essential features for AJAXCategories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20678 enhancement; Normal; mwEmbed: General/Unknown; (lupo.bugzilla)
[10:24:23] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Draft tab shown even if the talk namespace cannot be sighted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20679 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (raimond.spekking)
[10:27:33] <BlackBinary>	hi all :)
[10:30:00] <BlackBinary>	is there a way to spacify a Category in the inputbox  Typ Create ? (aditional to load a Template)  
[10:30:29] <Duesentrieb>	BlackBinary: the category link must be part of the template text you laod
[10:30:50] <BlackBinary>	but is is Variable 
[10:30:58] <TimStarling>	is there any reason for pages like [[MediaWiki:Handheld.css]] being loaded via the message cache, apart from efficiency?
[10:31:00] <BlackBinary>	*it is
[10:31:15] <Duesentrieb>	a variable? coming from where?
[10:31:41] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Cannot use "upload by URL" feature with javascript disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18264  (10herd)
[10:31:53] <Splarka>	TimStarling: is there any reason for any of them to be?
[10:32:17] <BlackBinary>	i create  a Page  that must have  a CreateBox  for a New page with the Category {{PAGENAME}} of the last page 
[10:32:28] <BlackBinary>	^^
[10:33:27] <Splarka>	oh, TimStarling: I can think of one use case, heh
[10:33:59] <TimStarling>	it's forced to the content language, in case you're thinking uselang= would be useful
[10:34:00] <BlackBinary>	for example  :    a Template to Create a Interpret  this Template must have a Createbutton to crate a Song that  automaticly have the category  {{Interpratename}}
[10:34:06] <Splarka>	if $wgCapitalLinks is off, the script calls for some files in lowercase, like the skin file: <link rel="stylesheet" href="/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:monobook.css&amp;usemsgcache=yes
[10:34:24] <Splarka>	the usemsgcache normalizes the title to uppercase in the backend, but without it the page fails to load properly
[10:34:34] <TimStarling>	right...
[10:34:41] <Splarka>	(but just checking Handheld is not affected)
[10:34:41] <BlackBinary>	how can i so that ?
[10:35:22] <Splarka>	BlackBinary: possibly some vooodoo using #tag:inputbox, but even then I think you'd need a preload template for each such page
[10:35:28] <Duesentrieb>	BlackBinary: normally, you preloaded text would contain a template (the *other* meaning of "template") and the user would fill in perameters. the template definition could then build categories based on the parameters provide
[10:35:45] <Splarka>	(if you're just using the InputBox extension)
[10:39:11] <BlackBinary>	so there is no Way to add a Cratebox with  Variable Categorys this way?
[10:42:03] <Duesentrieb>	no idea if you can pass parameters to preload text.
[10:42:08] <Duesentrieb>	if so, then it's possible
[10:42:52] <BlackBinary>	okay
[10:43:08] <BlackBinary>	and sry for my bad english ^^
[10:43:42] <faceface>	how to manipulate the case of a string?
[10:43:59] <faceface>	I want something like {{DEFAULTSORT:{{#lc:{{PAGENAME}}}}}}
[10:44:08] <Splarka>	uc, ucfirst, lc, lcfirst?
[10:44:15] <Splarka>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words
[10:44:15] <faceface>	lc?
[10:44:23] <faceface>	Splarka: thanks
[10:44:24] <Splarka>	no hash
[10:44:33] <faceface>	I assumed it would be a pf
[10:44:36] <Splarka>	it is
[10:44:44] <Splarka>	hashes are optional
[10:44:50] <faceface>	sorry... years later I'm still confused...
[10:44:56] <faceface>	I thought it would be a PF ;-)
[10:45:01] <Splarka>	that makes 7 billion of us
[10:45:03] <faceface>	as in, and extension
[10:45:06] <Splarka>	nein
[10:45:14] <faceface>	s/and/an/
[10:45:14] <Splarka>	it is core, but even that doesn't mean it requires a hash
[10:45:25] <Splarka>	it is typical that PFs via extension use hashes
[10:45:38] <Splarka>	about half of the core parser functions use them, even the new ones
[10:45:43] <faceface>	right
[10:45:49] <Splarka>	gender and groupconvert don't
[10:45:51] <faceface>	I just forgot there were any core pf's
[10:45:58] <Splarka>	#tag and #special do
[10:46:25] <Splarka>	I think there should be a breaking change whereby all parser functions and magic words, as opposed to templates, should start with hashes
[10:47:08] <Splarka>	and a grace period whereby they are aliased (like by making hashes part of the name), and categorized when not using hashes in "Category:Parserfunctions and variables without hashes"
[10:47:31] <Splarka>	(this opinion formed by watching ideas and complaints here for the last few years >_<)
[10:47:47] <faceface>	Splarka: yeah, I don't see why people hate breaking changes so much... I mean... not every release should have them, but sometimes, they break less than they have broke.. if you see what I mean.
[10:54:31] <Shisma>	hi, kurze frage
[10:54:49] <Shisma>	wie heist nochmal die seite wo man als bürokrat einen user zum admin machen kann?
[10:55:05] <faceface>	was?
[10:55:09] <GerardM->	check out the special pates
[10:55:12] <GerardM->	pages
[10:55:19] <faceface>	hey G
[10:55:26] <GerardM->	the name is different dependend on the localisation
[10:55:33] <GerardM->	:)
[10:55:41] <CIA-12>	03jojo * r56502 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.templates.php: security fixes: properly escape JS and HTML
[10:55:47] <Shisma>	oh this chat is english
[10:55:49] <Shisma>	sorry
[10:56:43] <Shisma>	i am a bureaucrat and i want to appoint an admin
[10:56:55] <Shisma>	what is the name of the specialpage?
[10:57:49] <guillom>	Shisma, [[special:makesysop]]
[10:57:58] <Splarka>	ew
[10:58:16] <Splarka>	that's an alias for backcompat to a deprecated extension
[10:58:21] <guillom>	is it?
[10:58:21] <Splarka>	'Userrights' => array( 'Benutzerrechte' ),
[10:58:32] <Shisma>	yes. thats it
[10:58:33] <Shisma>	thank you
[10:58:50] <guillom>	well, I use UserRights as a steward, and I'm not a 'crat, so I wouldn't know
[10:59:11] <Splarka>	snoobby stewarda ^_^
[10:59:24] <Splarka>	stewards
[10:59:28] <guillom>	:P
[11:00:32] <Shisma>	thx you.
[11:00:34] <Shisma>	cya
[11:00:42] <Splarka>	guillom: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/55660
[11:01:56] <guillom>	Splarka, ah, thanks; it isn't that old
[11:04:00] <Splarka>	guillom: yes, which means in any released version, Special:Makesysop simply won't work
[11:04:04] <Splarka>	unless the extension is installed ^_^
[11:04:23] <guillom>	I see
[11:05:58] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Cannot edit with IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20680 critical; Normal; MediaWiki: Vector Skin; (gtisza)
[11:07:55] *TimStarling 	wants @media
[11:08:02] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) New sp�cial page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20681 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki Feature Request: Feature_Request; (macarenor)
[11:08:48] <TimStarling>	the interweb says it's existed in IE since forever: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms530813(VS.85).aspx
[11:09:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Cannot edit with IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20680  (10gtisza)
[11:11:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Cannot edit with IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20680  (10gtisza)
[11:11:50] <mitixi>	hi
[11:11:58] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Sinhala :Error is thrown when Edit link (සංස්කරණය කරන්න) is clicked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20682 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (wikibugs)
[11:12:21] <mitixi>	new here, can nayone here me?
[11:12:30] <Platonides>	hello mitixi
[11:13:47] <mitixi>	hi, having problem with deleteBatch.php, cause in the titles of my mediawiki 1.15 articles there are slavic characters like š č ž, deleteBatch says shipping nonexisting pages
[11:13:50] <mitixi>	any ideas
[11:13:51] <mitixi>	?
[11:14:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Proxytools errors "No such file or directory " - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20682  (10N/A)
[11:14:57] <Platonides>	mitixi, how are you providing the titles?
[11:14:59] <mitixi>	it converts  article člen into Ŕlen and of course that one des not exist
[11:15:05] <mitixi>	in a text file
[11:15:13] <mitixi>	made with Notepad
[11:15:14] <Platonides>	is the text file saved in utf8?
[11:15:43] <Platonides>	if you made it with notepad, it will have a bom, so I don't think it can detect the first line
[11:16:09] <Splarka>	Tim: Hmm, quirksmode says otherwise, but maybe they just mean complex queries
[11:16:21] <mitixi>	yes
[11:16:32] <mitixi>	tried ansi as well
[11:17:00] <Platonides>	it should be utf8
[11:17:05] <mitixi>	ansi converst člen to Ŕlen and utf8 converts to  ─Źlen
[11:17:10] <Platonides>	are you having problems when the entry is not the first one?
[11:17:28] <mitixi>	i tried just with one entry
[11:17:44] <Platonides>	place a new line at the beginning
[11:18:01] <Platonides>	notepad will quietly insert two bytes to indicate it's utf-8
[11:18:07] <mitixi>	i tryied even with direct typing
[11:18:12] <Platonides>	and that will likely confuse the script
[11:18:53] <mitixi>	any other "Windows" editor
[11:19:03] <mitixi>	notepad does exactly what you said
[11:19:28] <Platonides>	I think some people recommend jEdit to avoid the bom issue
[11:21:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Cannot edit with IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20680  (10gtisza)
[11:21:07] <mitixi>	will try,
[11:21:12] <mitixi>	just a sec
[11:26:26] <mitixi>	done, thanks utf-8 was a problem
[11:27:04] <Platonides>	well, it was the hidden BOM :P
[11:28:31] <mitixi>	one more thing, what is the best way to move all the pages from namespace1 to namespace2? do i export everything from namespace1 to xml file, use text editor to replace word namespace1 with namespace2 and import back into wiki?
[11:31:10] <Platonides>	what are you trying to do?
[11:31:12] <Platonides>	rename a namespace?
[11:32:45] <mitixi>	yes rename would be nice
[11:32:55] <mitixi>	how
[11:33:11] <mitixi>	with all the databes and links in the back
[11:35:03] <Platonides>	on which namespace is it?
[11:35:13] <Platonides>	are they extra namespaces?
[11:35:39] <mitixi>	lets call it namespace1, since I created it myself
[11:35:50] <mitixi>	its an extra one, yes
[11:39:15] <Platonides>	go to Localsettings.php where you defined it, and change the name you gave to it
[11:40:08] <Platonides>	the articles are saved in the db based on the namespace number, so all your articles will magically appear at the new name
[11:40:38] <mitixi>	seriously, so simple. i have: define("NS_Zak",102); define("NS_Zak_TALK",103); $wgExtraNamespaces[NS_Zak] = "Zak"; $wgExtraNamespaces[NS_Zak_TALK] = "Zak_talk";
[11:41:09] <Platonides>	change it to  $wgExtraNamespaces[NS_Zak] = "NewName";
[11:41:18] <Platonides>	you can also change the name of the defines
[11:41:23] <Platonides>	just keep the numbers
[11:41:53] <mitixi>	ok, cause I want articles to be NewName:ArticleX
[11:43:02] <Viper550>	so this update has messed up quote a bit?
[11:50:01] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Sinhala :Warning is thrown when edit (සංස්කරණය කරන්න) link is clicked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20683 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (wikibugs)
[11:54:54] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Sinhala :Warning is thrown when edit (සංස්කරණය කරන්න) link is clicked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20683  +comment (10Platonides)
[11:54:57] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Proxytools errors "No such file or directory " - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20682  (10Platonides)
[11:54:59] <mitixi>	done, thanks
[11:55:08] <Platonides>	:)
[11:55:20] <Splarka>	mitixi: you may want to set the old namespace as an alias to the new, so any links will still work
[11:57:28] <mitixi>	how do i make an alias?
[11:57:32] <mitixi>	it is a good idea
[11:57:33] <werdna>	Viper550: a lot was broken, it's mostly fixed now
[11:57:59] <Viper550>	though vector looks weirded out in places
[11:59:39] <Splarka>	mitixi: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual_talk:$wgNamespaceAliases
[12:08:40] <mitixi>	OK, one last advice. We use duplicate articles in two namespaces. one open on closed. starting content is equal then users can update the one artice and use a closed one as a reference to the original content. I have just closed ones for now and the duplication has to be done today (wiki goes public). what would be the best way to duplicate (export from namespaceCLOSE to namespaceOPEN) and add links in all the open articel  to 
[12:08:51] <mitixi>	to muchy typing i know
[12:12:07] <Alphos>	mitixi did you think of flagged revs ?
[12:12:35] <CIA-12>	03werdna * r56503 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
[12:12:35] <CIA-12>	Add feed support to LiquidThreads (resolves bug 20660, mostly).
[12:12:35] <CIA-12>	Adds a new API module, ApiFeedLQTThreads, which provides a feed of new threads, replies, or both on a given set of talk pages, threads or whatever else.
[12:12:35] <CIA-12>	Still want to add a feed for Special:NewMessages.
[12:13:03] <Alphos>	mitixi : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs
[12:14:07] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) LiquidThreads needs feedy goodness - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20660  +comment (10agarrett)
[12:14:12] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Form kills Dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15245  +comment (10dasch_87)
[12:14:59] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Add feed for Special:NewMessages in LiquidThreads - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20684 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (agarrett)
[12:16:19] <apoc_>	I found a bug in the new version just deployed on enwp, can I ask about it here?
[12:18:20] <MaxSem>	!ask
[12:18:20] --mwbot--	Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. See also: !gethelp
[12:19:10] <wikibugs>	03(CLOSED) Sinhala :Warning is thrown when edit (සංස්කරණය කරන්න) link is clicked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20683  +comment (10wikibugs)
[12:20:44] <CIA-12>	03jojo * r56504 10/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php: fix: do not show "stop page" when choosing cancel
[12:22:09] <apoc_>	Well, I found the offending diff: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/55592
[12:23:29] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Sinhala : Language specific text are not available in dialogs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20685 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (wikibugs)
[12:27:36] <CIA-12>	03raymond * r56505 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Tweak message a bit: Make it more consistent with a | between prev/next
[12:28:01] <apoc_>	Show I submit a bug for that, or is the diff comment enough?
[12:29:53] <Nil_Einne>	Do the devs actually know about the current problems? Or is everyone sleeping anyway
[12:30:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Sinhala : Language specific text are not available in dialogs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20685  (10wikibugs)
[12:34:08] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Navigable TOC : The functionality is missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20669  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[12:34:28] <Splarka>	apoc: probably should submit a bug unless you can get werdna to set that to 'fixme'
[12:34:34] <werdna>	?
[12:34:45] <Splarka>	werdna: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/55592#c4058
[12:34:52] <werdna>	Nil_Einne: nobody knows what problems you're talking about unless you tell us
[12:34:53] <Splarka>	> For search, move "create page" below "no results"
[12:34:58] <Splarka>	but it also shows below some results
[12:34:59] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) IE 8 is getting stuck when page edit link is clicked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20670  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[12:35:04] <Splarka>	so it is way down where you can't see it
[12:35:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enhanced Editor Bar hanging on IE 8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20668  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[12:35:27] <Splarka>	would a 'fixme' help there or is that useless past scap/fork?
[12:35:40] <werdna>	apoc_: I don't understand that comment
[12:35:49] <Splarka>	click the first link
[12:35:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) wgUseAJAXCategories forms do not allow <enter> to save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20674  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[12:36:03] <Splarka>	the page doesn't exist but returns results
[12:36:14] <Splarka>	> ou may create the page "Test test", but consider checking the search results below to see whether it is already covered.
[12:36:19] <Splarka>	is way at the bottom of the page
[12:36:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) wgUseAJAXCategories forms do not allow <enter> to save - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20674  (10roan.kattouw)
[12:36:40] <apoc_>	It should be at the top
[12:36:56] <werdna>	that isn't an obvious regression
[12:36:57] <Nil_Einne>	Am I the only one for who wikipedia is not working at all then?
[12:37:08] <werdna>	Nil_Einne: works for me
[12:37:13] <Splarka>	per brion: As long as the 'no results' message stays short like it's supposed to this should be fine. :)
[12:37:20] <Splarka>	5 pages of "results" is not short ^_^
[12:37:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) wgUseAJAXCategories feature does not work in certain scenarios - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20675  (10roan.kattouw)
[12:38:10] <^demon>	Splarka: We've also had 1 sentence messages inflated to multiple paragraphs of text + tables + etc. I don't trust enwiki to keep messages short :p
[12:38:20] <Splarka>	^demon: not the point
[12:38:29] <Splarka>	the point was, after 'no results' the message is fine
[12:38:36] <Splarka>	it still should be at the top if there /are/ results
[12:38:37] <Splarka>	which it is not
[12:38:50] <^demon>	I guess.
[12:38:58] <Splarka>	regrettable regression, heh
[12:40:51] <Hero>	hi, I have access to mysql db for mediawiki install. and need to give sysops rights to myself. mediawiki version is 1.11.0. could someone help me with it?
[12:41:36] <Emufarmers>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#Alter_the_database
[12:42:05] <Hero>	Emufarmers: checking
[12:42:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) List of essential features for AJAXCategories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20678  +comment (10hartman)
[12:42:36] <Nil_Einne>	Strange none of them are working for me (not en, not italian not portugese, not dutch, not french, not Bislama) although commons and en.wiktionary are fine but can't be bothered working out why maybe it's a local thing (doesn't look like it but who knows). if anyone is interested here's some samples http://dpaste.org/P3c1/ http://dpaste.org/ZUny/
[12:42:47] <asddsgsgd>	is referata the only free semantic wiki farm available? Not counting thewikiz and pseudomenon
[12:43:47] <Hero>	Emufarmers: that's what I was getting from google search. but user_rights column isn't there in user table for some reason.
[12:44:06] <Nil_Einne>	bye all
[12:44:15] <Emufarmers>	Hero: use the instructions for your version
[12:44:29] <Hero>	Emufarmers: yes i am reading for version 1.3 or older.
[12:44:31] <Emufarmers>	bah, I don't even know why we have those old ones; I'll remove them
[12:44:33] <Emufarmers>	:\
[12:44:43] <Emufarmers>	1.11 > 1.3
[12:44:44] <Hero>	Emufarmers: here's the table structure http://pastebin.ca/1569570
[12:44:54] <CIA-12>	03werdna * r56506 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/api/ApiFeedLQTThreads.php: Add more examples to feedthreads
[12:45:07] <CIA-12>	03raymond * r56507 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialAllmessages.php: Do not lower case the message text. This is wrong for some languages, at least for German.
[12:45:17] <Hero>	Emufarmers: ouch. sorry.
[12:45:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) List of essential features for AJAXCategories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20678  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[12:46:08] <Emufarmers>	It's okay; this way, the next person won't make that mistake again.  At least not on that entry, heh
[12:46:45] <Hero>	Emufarmers: ok. I got what to do now. thank you.
[12:46:51] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Smaller fontsize for vector sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20686 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Vector Skin; (hartman)
[12:46:58] <nicknicknick>	ah, there are alternatives to semantic mediawiki, kiwi, openrecord, acewiki
[12:47:14] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Cannot edit with IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20680  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[12:47:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enhanced Editor Bar hanging on IE 8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20668  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[12:49:36] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Proxytools errors "No such file or directory " - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20682  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[12:49:58] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Wikipedia software update broke wikEd local preview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20687 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (oq9pscb02)
[12:50:42] <Alphos>	Hero, if you have ssh access, you may wish to consider using http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:CreateAndPromote.php
[12:50:56] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Sinhala : Language specific text are not available in dialogs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20685  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[12:53:46] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Hidden categories not visible if desired, when there are no other categories. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20688 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (hartman)
[12:54:52] <Hero>	Alphos: i do have ssh access. let me have a look for future occurances
[12:57:24] <apoc_>	So, can I leave the search page issue?
[13:00:18] <CIA-12>	03werdna * r56508 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuthHooks.php: Fix failure to return a value, regression spewing errors
[13:01:53] <CIA-12>	03werdna * r56509 10/branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/CentralAuth/CentralAuthHooks.php: Merge r56508, regression spewing exceptions in CentralAuth in some circumstances
[13:02:19] <nicknicknick>	so, for ready to use semantics, there is pseudomenon, thewikiz or referata.
[13:07:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) List of essential features for AJAXCategories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20678  (10hartman)
[13:14:02] <CIA-12>	03raymond * r56510 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Follow up r56505: Make it consistent with other pipe usages. Thanks to Siebrand :)
[13:15:35] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Error in transclusion of some Special:RecentChangesLinked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20689 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (hartman)
[13:19:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) List of essential features for AJAXCategories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20678  (10agarrett)
[13:27:10] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Main (system) JavaScript variables suddenly at the end of the head tag, after MediaWiki:Common.js etc.; breaks scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20690 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (Wiki.Melancholie)
[13:27:37] <aaa>	hi
[13:27:40] <aaa>	i'm french
[13:27:47] <wikibugs>	03(mod) FlaggedRevs main (system) JavaScript variables suddenly at the end of the head tag, after MediaWiki:Common.js etc.; breaks scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20690  summary (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[13:27:52] <aaa>	and i'm wonder how can i change the skin of category
[13:27:56] <aaa>	?
[13:30:11] <aaa>	without touching the core
[13:30:48] <aaa>	ok i'm explain what i want
[13:31:12] <wikibugs>	03(mod) FlaggedRevs main (system) JavaScript variables suddenly at the end of the head tag, after MediaWiki:Common.js etc.; breaks scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20690  (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[13:31:18] <aaa>	i want to change the behaviour of the category page without coding on core
[13:31:22] <aaa>	?
[13:33:19] <Splarka>	!hooks | aaa
[13:33:19] --mwbot--	aaa: Hooks allow you to run functions at various points in the main MediaWiki code. For more information about using hooks in MediaWiki, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks>.
[13:35:20] <aaa>	ok thks for hook
[13:35:54] <aaa>	but there no way to change using (e.g __NOLISTCATEGORY__ or something like that )?
[13:36:38] <Splarka>	there is one... __HIDDENCAT__ that makes the category hidden on the page's list of categories
[13:37:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Hidden categories not visible if desired, when there are no other categories. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20688  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[13:38:06] <ialex>	werdna: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20688
[13:40:11] <aaa>	i'm sorry but 
[13:40:11] <aaa>	__HIDDENCAT__
[13:40:30] <aaa>	doesn't seem's works in the category list
[13:42:16] <Splarka>	it works on t he page views
[13:43:09] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Special:Export and Special:Import should transport revision tags. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20691 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Export/Import; (bugzilla.wikimedia)
[13:43:45] <aaa>	ok
[13:44:11] <aaa>	so i must use a a hook to skin my page categorie ?
[13:44:29] <Splarka>	yah, or edit core (ugh!)
[13:44:38] <Splarka>	hooks are at least external
[13:44:41] <aaa>	if someone have 5min perhaps for help me, a help is welcome
[13:45:07] <aaa>	thank you for helping me
[13:45:19] <aaa>	i'm sorry for my english (i'm french guy)
[13:49:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Export and Special:Import should transport revision tags. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20691  -i18n ; +comment (10innocentkiller)
[13:52:38] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Error in transclusion of some Special:RecentChangesLinked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20689  +comment (10danny.leinad)
[13:52:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Transcluded Special:Newpages and Special:Newimages expose strip markers and desanitize html when returning zero results or a tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16129  +comment (10danny.leinad)
[13:56:02] <faceface>	Splarka: tytyty
[13:56:39] <Splarka>	mew?
[13:57:19] <__neo__>	hi guys
[13:57:29] <__neo__>	is there a good blogging extension for mediawiki?
[13:57:43] <__neo__>	something you like/have used?
[13:59:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) List of essential features for AJAXCategories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20678  (10lupo.bugzilla)
[14:07:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) List of essential features for AJAXCategories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20678  (10lupo.bugzilla)
[14:08:23] <CIA-12>	03werdna * r56511 10/branches/wmf-deployment/includes/EditPage.php: Merge r56478, EditPage bugfix which we forgot to deploy
[14:11:38] <werdna>	by the way, I'm going to rewrite our feed handling today
[14:12:25] <domas>	__neo__: wordpress
[14:13:29] <CIA-12>	03raymond * r56512 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialContributions.php: 
[14:13:29] <CIA-12>	Consistency tweak: Use pipe-separator for diff / hist like on RC and WL
[14:13:29] <CIA-12>	BTW: RC and WL shows (diff | hist) but this page (hist | diff). Another consistency candidate?
[14:13:50] <__neo__>	domas: I need this in mediawiki, because I don't want to spread my data across multiple applications
[14:14:35] <domas>	=)
[14:17:34] <CIA-12>	03raymond * r56513 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Add colon for consistency with other labels
[14:18:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) bug in uploading new version on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20677  +comment (10verszil)
[14:22:45] <CIA-12>	03catrope * r56514 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Linker.php: Followup to r56174: tooltipAndAccesskey also returns a string
[14:22:54] <werdna>	ugh
[14:22:59] *werdna 	slaps RoanKattouw 
[14:23:21] <werdna>	self::fetchUser DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY CALL THE SUBCLASS'S METHOD IF THE CURRENT OBJECT IS A SUBCASS
[14:23:24] <werdna>	SUBCLASS*
[14:23:28] <werdna>	PHP does not have late static binding
[14:23:31] <RoanKattouw>	Dammit
[14:23:35] <RoanKattouw>	I did that before 
[14:23:41] <RoanKattouw>	Argh
[14:23:58] <RoanKattouw>	I'll make up for that by fixing the tooltip thing
[14:25:11] <werdna>	I'm reverting all that stuff on wmf-deployment
[14:25:26] <RoanKattouw>	All the fetchUser stuff? Yeah
[14:30:35] <CIA-12>	03werdna * r56515 10/branches/wmf-deployment/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Revert r56450 (encompassing r56447 and r56448) and r56133 on wmf-deployment. They break global userrights because PHP does not have late static binding
[14:33:21] <CIA-12>	03werdna * r56516 10/branches/wmf-deployment/includes/specials/SpecialUserrights.php: Change fetchUser back to non-static (it stayed static after reverting those revs for some reason
[14:33:26] <RoanKattouw>	werdna: Why not revert them on trunk as well?
[14:33:39] <werdna>	RoanKattouw: so they can be worked out, I suppose
[14:33:41] <RoanKattouw>	s/as well/first
[14:33:52] <RoanKattouw>	OK you're obviously not brion :P
[14:35:22] <ialex>	a way to do late static binding is to call $this->someStaticMethod() :)
[14:35:58] <CIA-12>	03catrope * r56517 10/branches/wmf-deployment/includes/Linker.php: wmf-deployment: Merge r56174 and r56514 (Linker::tooltip() fixes)
[14:36:41] <werdna>	!log Scapping to deploy r56515 and r56516, fixes to CentralAuth global groups broken by a userrights API module.
[14:36:41] --mwbot--	Wrong channel!
[14:36:50] <werdna>	shhh
[14:36:58] <RoanKattouw>	werdna: Also scap r56517 please
[14:37:24] <werdna>	RoanKattouw: looking at it
[14:37:54] <Bryan>	we has api upload??
[14:38:01] <Splarka>	you can has
[14:38:05] <werdna>	!log also deploying r56517
[14:38:05] --mwbot--	Wrong channel!
[14:38:53] <Duesentrieb>	hehehe
[14:39:02] <Splarka>	!log is this_is_intentionally_null
[14:39:02] --mwbot--	Successfully added keyword: log
[14:39:11] <Splarka>	no need for that since morebots is so verbose
[14:39:21] <Splarka>	ack
[14:39:27] <Splarka>	!log alias this_is_intentionally_null
[14:39:27] --mwbot--	Successfully added alias: log
[14:39:50] <aaa>	hey
[14:40:08] <aaa>	how can i add a class to [[image:....|...] ??
[14:41:04] <Splarka>	you can't really, you have to add it to parents and use descendant selectors
[14:41:13] <aaa>	ah
[14:41:15] <Splarka>	<div class="redimage">[[Image...]]
[14:41:23] <aaa>	ok i try tks
[14:41:31] <Splarka>	.redimage div.thumb div.thumbinner {background-color:red;}
[14:41:42] <Splarka>	.redimage img {border:1px solid red;}
[14:41:43] <Splarka>	etc
[14:42:09] <werdna>	!log
[14:42:09] --mwbot--	
[14:43:52] <Splarka>	it's !log it's !log, it's made of wood, it's !log it's !log, it's better than bad, it's good!
[14:44:07] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) patrolling not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20621  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[14:44:21] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Deleted page still need to patrol - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19389  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[14:46:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) bug in uploading new version on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20677  (10xu.jimmy.wrk)
[14:47:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) wgUseAJAXCategories feature does not work in certain scenarios - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20675  (10siebrand)
[14:47:26] <apergos>	Splarka: you are weird :-P very weird for this early in the morning
[14:49:12] <Splarka>	sorry, I have some weird insomnia lately
[14:50:45] <CIA-12>	03siebrand * r56518 10/trunk/extensions/Blahtex/Blahtex.i18n.php: Update punctuation.
[14:51:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) bug in uploading new version on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20677   +code-update-regression (10agarrett)
[14:53:57] <CIA-12>	03siebrand * r56519 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/check-blacklist.php: Blacklist variable checks for 'renameuser-renamed-notice'
[14:55:10] <werdna>	added a new keyword code-update-regression
[14:56:46] <werdna>	http://bit.ly/3SVlLp
[14:58:06] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Hidden categories not visible if desired, when there are no other categories. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20688   +code-update-regression (10alex.emsenhuber)
[14:59:21] <CIA-12>	03catrope * r56520 10/branches/wmf-deployment/languages/LanguageConverter.php: wmf-deployment: Merge r56491 (__NOCC__ blanks parser output) from trunk
[14:59:33] <RoanKattouw>	werdna: Try to scap this? ---^^
[14:59:51] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Internals for feeds are terrible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20692 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Syndication; (agarrett)
[15:01:14] <werdna>	RoanKattouw: ugh, how am I supposed to review that?
[15:01:25] <RoanKattouw>	werdna: It's two lines
[15:02:01] <werdna>	yeah, but I was looking at the others
[15:02:05] <werdna>	okay I kind of get it
[15:02:18] <aaa>	ok
[15:02:25] <werdna>	let's sync it blindly and see what happens :P
[15:02:32] <aaa>	how can  add a color to a test in css inline
[15:02:33] <aaa>	?
[15:02:41] <RoanKattouw>	werdna: My thoughts exactly
[15:02:47] <RoanKattouw>	It'll hardly blow up the site
[15:02:55] <werdna>	yes it will !!!!!!
[15:03:21] <werdna>	I can see that it makes sense
[15:03:36] <RoanKattouw>	Yeah me too
[15:06:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enhanced Editor Bar hanging on IE 8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20668   +code-update-regression (10roan.kattouw)
[15:08:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod) FlaggedRevs main (system) JavaScript variables suddenly at the end of the head tag, after MediaWiki:Common.js etc.; breaks scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20690   +code-update-regression (10roan.kattouw)
[15:08:53] <werdna>	AaronSchulz: ah yes, you broke that
[15:08:55] <werdna>	fix kthx :)
[15:10:20] <AaronSchulz>	I didn't recall changing anything there
[15:11:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Watchlist message appearing without reason - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20531  (10JSchulz_4587)
[15:11:29] <CIA-12>	03catrope * r56521 10/branches/wmf-deployment/includes/Title.php: wmf-deployment: Merge r56492 (fix usercss/js logic)
[15:11:37] <RoanKattouw>	werdna: Sync please? ----^^
[15:12:33] <Splarka>	aaa: <span style="color:#ff0000;">red!</span>
[15:12:54] <Splarka>	just stick a style="" tag on any allowed html-ish wiki markup, or wikitable
[15:13:09] <werdna>	RoanKattouw: looking
[15:13:15] <Splarka>	roan: heh, so they needed both rights?
[15:14:02] <RoanKattouw>	Splarka: No, it denied access if ( !right1 || !right2 ) rather than if !( right1 || right2 )
[15:14:07] <RoanKattouw>	Someone failing DeMorgan's laws
[15:14:13] <Splarka>	right, so they needed both!
[15:14:18] <Splarka>	works now
[15:14:27] <Splarka>	http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bob/mediawiki.css?action=edit
[15:14:28] <RoanKattouw>	Oh yeah I guess you're right
[15:14:29] <werdna>	syncin'
[15:17:18] <AaronSchulz>	I don't know who/where bug 20690 came from
[15:19:43] <CIA-12>	03thomasv * r56522 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php: escaping messages passed to mysql
[15:20:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wikipedia software update broke wikEd local preview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20687  +comment (10hartman)
[15:20:48] <wikibugs>	14(INVALID) Search & replace : Icon is not available in IE 6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20676  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[15:21:18] *AaronSchulz 	tries to find were head scripts changed
[15:24:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wikipedia software update broke wikEd local preview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20687   +code-update-regression (10roan.kattouw)
[15:24:18] <CIA-12>	03werdna * r56523 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Skin.php: Fix bug 20688 (Hidden categories still hidden if there are no non-hidden categories and the showhiddencats option is on). Regression in r55573.
[15:24:38] <RoanKattouw>	Gah someone should tell the author(s) of ProofreadPage about escaping
[15:24:55] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Hidden categories not visible if desired, when there are no other categories. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20688  +comment (10agarrett)
[15:26:08] <CIA-12>	03dale * r56524 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialUpload.php: * ( bug 18264 ) upload-by-url form was still disabled in non-js2 form output
[15:26:29] <RoanKattouw>	mdale: Should we be syncing that rev? ----^^
[15:26:46] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Cannot use "upload by URL" feature with javascript disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18264  +comment (10dale)
[15:27:28] <mdale>	its a trivial fix... should I push it to wmf-deployment... (its just hurts javascript-disabled people (not that many people) )... but instead of writing out this sentence we could just pushed it to that branch :P
[15:27:54] <RoanKattouw>	mdale: Yeah I saw it it's like 10 chars :P
[15:28:10] <RoanKattouw>	I'll merge it
[15:28:16] <mdale>	oky ;)
[15:29:42] <CIA-12>	03catrope * r56525 10/branches/wmf-deployment/includes/specials/SpecialUpload.php: wmf-deployment: Merge r56524 (don't disable upload by URL when JS is disabled) from trunk
[15:29:52] <CIA-12>	03werdna * r56526 10/branches/wmf-deployment/includes/Skin.php: Merge r56523, fix for hidden category display when user has opted into it
[15:30:05] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Set up page appears, though site was set up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20693 blocker; Normal; MediaWiki: Installation; (jnfsmile)
[15:31:35] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Set up page appears, though site was set up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20693  04BLOCKER->major; +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[15:31:46] <charitwo>	BLOCKER :o
[15:31:50] <RoanKattouw>	werdna: Could you deploy r56525 too?
[15:31:57] <charitwo>	oh sorry... 4BLOCKER
[15:33:23] <mdale>	werdna: should we turn off $wgUseAJAXCategories if js2 is disabled... since it calls loadGM ?
[15:33:52] <werdna>	I just put a doc comment to the effect that it required it
[15:34:10] <Marco27>	Hello, all! A curiosity: Why &ot=xml parameter in Special:AllMessages isn't longer available?
[15:34:18] <mdale>	yea... might as well check for both  $wgUseAJAXCategories & $wgEnableJS2system
[15:34:44] <mdale>	adding in...
[15:34:58] *Splarka 	gives mdale cookie for 56524
[15:35:27] <CIA-12>	03dale * r56527 10/trunk/phase3/includes/OutputPage.php: * adds $wgEnableJS2system check for $wgUseAJAXCategories (since it uses some js2 calls loadGM)
[15:35:39] <Splarka>	mdale: bonus for having it set the field to disabled on document load, via JS, heh
[15:36:00] <mdale>	Splarka: num num num
[15:36:27] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56528 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: Fixed bug from r53507 : talk page confused with article page for sync check
[15:36:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Advanced toolbar is not available in IE 7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20673  04CRIT->major; +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[15:36:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wikipedia software update broke wikEd local preview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20687  (10oq9pscb02)
[15:38:02] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Cannot use "upload by URL" feature with javascript disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18264  (10herd)
[15:38:04] <Splarka>	pointless comment++
[15:38:53] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56529 10/branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: Merged r56528: sync bug fix for talk pages
[15:38:56] <RoanKattouw>	werdna: Sorry to be repetitive and/or obnoxious, but could you sync r56525 (one-line rev to SpecialUpload.php) as well?
[15:39:01] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Set up page appears, though site was set up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20693  +comment (10jnfsmile)
[15:39:30] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Wikipedia software update broke wikEd local preview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20687  (10roan.kattouw)
[15:40:00] <Splarka>	Roan: no rush on that, it's actually been broken for 3 months
[15:40:18] <Splarka>	but mdale promised it as fixed in the next scap, heh (except the js2 stuff was reverted)
[15:40:51] <mdale>	I did not know js2 stuff was ever turned on ?
[15:40:53] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Draft tab shown even if the talk namespace cannot be sighted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20679  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[15:41:12] <ialex>	mdale: +				if( $wgEnableJS2system == true ){ you can remove "== true" :)
[15:41:21] <werdna>	RoanKattouw: making dinner
[15:41:22] <mdale>	yea.. I don't know why i put it in like that
[15:41:23] <werdna>	erm
[15:41:24] <werdna>	lunch
[15:45:19] <CIA-12>	03dale * r56530 10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/includes/MV_GlobalFunctions.php: * added js2 check for metavid extension
[15:47:57] <CIA-12>	03catrope * r56531 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiMain.php: Fix r56091: cache URLs with and without ?version separately
[15:48:47] <CIA-12>	03catrope * r56532 10/branches/wmf-deployment/includes/api/ApiMain.php: wmf-deployment: Merge r56531 (fix API help caching bug)
[15:49:06] <Alphos>	mdale in case someone set $wgEnableJS2system = 1 perhaps ?
[15:49:12] <Alphos>	1==true
[15:49:13] <RoanKattouw>	werdna: Off to dinner myself too, got another sync candidate here -----^^
[15:49:43] <Alphos>	on the other hand, (1) == (true) too...
[15:50:20] <CIA-12>	03dale * r56533 10/trunk/phase3/includes/OutputPage.php: * removed "== true"
[15:50:25] <Alphos>	:D
[15:51:32] <werdna>	om nom nom
[15:58:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) FlaggedRevs main (system) JavaScript variables suddenly at the end of the head tag, after MediaWiki:Common.js etc.; breaks scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20690  (10JSchulz_4587)
[16:03:23] <MrZ-man>	werdna: I'm merging r56515 back to trunk, is the change to ApiQueryUsers all the same reason, or are there unrelated changes as well, since it seems to be a significant change
[16:08:29] <werdna>	MrZ-man: i only reverted stuff
[16:08:36] <werdna>	so yeah, that's all it was
[16:21:42] <CIA-12>	03mrzman * r56534 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
[16:21:42] <CIA-12>	merge most of r56515 back to trunk (changing UserrightsPage::fetchUser to non-static)
[16:21:42] <CIA-12>	Fixing ApiQueryUsers so it should work properly for interwiki users
[16:22:49] <CIA-12>	03mrzman * r56535 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/SpecialGlobalGroupMembership.php: merge CentralAuth fix from r56515
[16:31:41] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56536 10/trunk/extensions/ReaderFeedback/specialpages/RatingHistory_body.php: Add more error catching
[16:34:30] <Splarka>	oh sure, now that it's all fixed
[16:35:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Wikipedia software update broke wikEd local preview - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20687  (10AlexSm)
[16:35:46] <Splarka>	bugs = germany/japan, werdna/roan/mrz/mdale/aaron = allies, brion = US <3
[16:35:50] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56537 10/trunk/extensions/ReaderFeedback/specialpages/RatingHistory_body.php: Replaced exception with wfdebug() call
[16:36:11] <werdna>	hey brion
[16:36:17] <werdna>	we've been having fun chasing bugs all morning
[16:36:23] <brion>	awesome :D
[16:36:49] <AaronSchulz>	hey
[16:37:05] <Splarka>	so have you yet found an update/release method that is sustainable?
[16:37:27] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56538 10/branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/ReaderFeedback/specialpages/RatingHistory_body.php: merged r56536, r56537 error handling tweaks
[16:55:11] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) show [top] anchor links (next to [edit] section links), as an option in prefs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19016  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[16:55:14] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Optional "return to top" link next to section editing links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6467  +comment (10alex.emsenhuber)
[16:56:36] <wikibugs>	03(mod) bug in uploading new version on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20677  (10Abigor)
[16:57:08] <werdna>	mdale1: can we stick this plugin in js2? http://bassistance.de/jquery-plugins/jquery-plugin-tooltip/
[16:58:11] <mdale1>	yea looks good... jquery.ui was working on a tootip plugin too... but I don't know what state that is in
[16:58:36] <mdale1>	http://jqueryui.pbworks.com/Tooltip
[16:58:51] <Emufarmers>	Splarka: why are you up so late? o:
[16:59:02] <werdna>	mdale1: I'll have a look
[17:00:57] <Marco27>	werdna: Hello! Do you know why &ot=xml parameter in Special:AllMessages isn't longer available?
[17:01:09] <werdna>	nope, I dunno
[17:01:19] <werdna>	somebody rewrote Special:AllMessages, though
[17:01:44] <werdna>	You should probably be using the API if you want machine-readable input, though
[17:02:20] <Splarka>	yknow, an action=raw for that would be nice as text/plain, no tables or other markup to kill browsers, but ctrl-f able, showing both defaults and current
[17:02:24] <werdna>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&meta=allmessages
[17:02:44] <nicknicknick>	where does mediawiki css skin makers gather, here?
[17:03:03] <wikibugs>	03(CLOSED) IE 8 is getting stuck when page edit link is clicked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20670  +comment (10wikibugs)
[17:03:10] <Marco27>	werdna: because now all WMF bot seems to be broken: http://bit.ly/IeBGA
[17:03:27] *Splarka 	bites Emufarmers
[17:04:16] <werdna>	Marco27: no, all pywikipedia bots are broken
[17:04:23] <werdna>	that's their own fault for screenscraping
[17:04:26] <nicknicknick>	I'm trying to customize the default skin, seems that the sidebar items and the edit bar buttons are under the same div class, or not?
[17:04:27] <Emufarmers>	o:
[17:04:30] <wikibugs>	03(CLOSED) Sinhala : Language specific text are not available in dialogs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20685  +comment (10wikibugs)
[17:04:48] <werdna>	morning tomaszf 
[17:04:49] <wikibugs>	04(REOPENED) Keep the pipe trick ([[Piped link|]]) syntax in wikitext instead of converting it at pre-save transform - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5004  summary; +comment (10heldergeovane)
[17:04:51] *Emufarmers 	gives Splarka some Nyquil, tucks him into bed, and reads him a story. ^___^
[17:05:12] <homeofgeeks>	when does the beta be realsed?
[17:05:18] <mdale>	werdna: quick survey of tooltip world... I think qtip re-factor as jquery.ui plugin is our best bet:: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~craig.craigsworks/qtip/trunk/files    ... its pretty feature rich http://craigsworks.com/projects/qtip/features/  and the new version is jquery.ui thememable 
[17:05:36] <Splarka>	werdna: you can't search for changed defaults (or indeed compare what is the same as defaults) that way, like ya can with the UI allmessages
[17:06:22] <werdna>	Looks like what Facebook uses
[17:06:50] *Splarka 	is never gonna enable js on wp again >_<
[17:08:12] <wikibugs>	03(CLOSED) Links : Cursor moves out of Dialog when tab is clicked - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20567  +comment (10wikibugs)
[17:12:37] <nicknicknick>	well, fixed
[17:12:51] <brion>	has somebody taken a look at the search display ordering issue?
[17:13:03] <brion>	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=strange+unusual+things&go=Go <- the no-results link is at the bottom instead of above the results
[17:13:12] <brion>	rumor on VPT is it might be http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/55592
[17:13:32] <Splarka>	brion: <werdna> that isn't an obvious regression
[17:13:58] <Splarka>	brion: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/55592#c4058
[17:14:04] <Splarka>	ya think ^_^
[17:14:11] *Splarka 	tells on the mean aussie
[17:14:14] <brion>	whee
[17:14:18] <Alphos>	brion it makes sense actually
[17:14:24] <Splarka>	there was a guy complaining about it earlier
[17:14:31] <Splarka>	it makes sense if there are really are no results
[17:14:42] <Alphos>	"if you haven't found what you were looking for, you can (then) create the page"
[17:14:45] <brion>	yes, but need to fix for where there are results ;)
[17:15:36] <Alphos>	still makes sense, someone may be willing to create the page if it's not in the results (i.e. if it's part of an article, but not an article in itself)
[17:15:44] <werdna>	RoanKattouw_away: you around?
[17:15:45] <werdna>	bah
[17:16:05] <Splarka>	brion: there was another minor issue, werd fixed global group permissions, but a steward gets an error after submitting the changes (they still work): "there's no such user on aawiki" or such
[17:16:32] <werdna>	Splarka: nobody told me about that one
[17:16:36] <brion>	werdna: you been taking care of the backports?
[17:16:39] <werdna>	is there a bug filed?
[17:16:43] <Splarka>	werd: I didn't wanna bug you, you seem overwhelmed
[17:16:46] <Splarka>	it is just a minor issue
[17:16:51] <werdna>	brion: Aaron and I have been deploying stuff all morning :)
[17:16:56] <brion>	awesome :D
[17:16:59] <werdna>	Splarka: doesn't mean you can't file a bug :)
[17:17:02] <Splarka>	not yet, it just happened a bit ago, only Darkoneko has used it
[17:17:37] <werdna>	RoanKattouw_away: when you get back, need to figure out the best way to return errors when using the ApiFormatFeedWrapper class.
[17:18:00] <Splarka>	possibly an easy fix not worthy of a bug, also I can't test it or get any details ^_^
[17:18:14] *Splarka 	churns rumor mill
[17:18:27] <wikibugs>	03(mod) bug in uploading new version on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20677  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[17:19:03] <werdna>	well file a bug anyway and say you can't test but you've heard of it
[17:19:22] <werdna>	the important thing is to have these somewhere we can all see
[17:19:36] <werdna>	then we at least know that somebody has had an issue, and we can figure it out
[17:21:03] <CIA-12>	03werdna * r56539 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/api/ApiFeedLQTThreads.php: Fix typo in r56503
[17:21:21] <Splarka>	3(NEW) I accidentally global user rights - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20694 blocker; highest; MediaWiki Extensions: CentralAuth; (splarka)
[17:22:16] <brion>	fixing the search bug...
[17:22:51] <^demon>	werdna: r56463 needs merge+sync too, but its not high priority.
[17:23:20] <Happy-melon>	Marco27: yes, the &ot= parameter was removed in the transition
[17:23:31] <Happy-melon>	machine-readable content should be accessed via the API
[17:23:39] <CIA-12>	03brion * r56540 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialSearch.php: Fix for r55592: show the direct-page link/create link on search *above* actual results but *below* "no results" notice.
[17:24:07] <Marco27>	ok, thanks werdna and Happy-melon
[17:24:26] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) abuse filter seeing a standard text as old text for a new page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20694 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (andre)
[17:24:26] <Splarka>	Happy-melon: so how do you get the defaults via the api, or a list of which are changed from the defaults?
[17:24:48] <Happy-melon>	splarka: you submit a bug :D
[17:24:49] <^demon>	Splarka: I'm getting "no such bug" on 20694.
[17:24:58] <CIA-12>	03happy-melon * r56541 10/branches/happy-melon/phase3/includes/ (4 files in 2 dirs): More nice things with Login and related
[17:25:06] <Alphos>	me too ^demon
[17:25:25] <Splarka>	^demon: gullible
[17:25:26] <Alphos>	besides looks like two bugs got the same id
[17:25:34] <Splarka>	Happy-melon: just sayin'
[17:25:43] <MaxSem>	<Happy-melon> machine-readable content should be accessed via the API <-- just give us a month or something like that:D
[17:25:44] <Splarka>	Alphos: gullible
[17:25:47] <Alphos>	the one about the user rights, and the one about the abuse filter
[17:25:48] <Alphos>	?
[17:25:50] <thedj>	AWB is also reportedly broken
[17:26:06] <Happy-melon>	maxsem: yeah, something like that :D
[17:26:09] <^demon>	Splarka: for what...believing wikibugs? :p
[17:26:10] <CIA-12>	03brion * r56542 10/branches/wmf-deployment/includes/specials/SpecialSearch.php: Merge r56540 search fix from trunk
[17:26:29] <thedj>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser#Software_Disabled.3F for AWB issue.
[17:26:30] <MaxSem>	thedj, I fixed that, but need a couple of guinea pigs before releasing
[17:26:38] <Splarka>	^demon/Alphos, it'll come to you
[17:26:54] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) abuse filter seeing a standard text as old text for a new page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20694   +code-update-regression; +comment (10agarrett)
[17:26:55] <Splarka>	werdna: so what exactly is gblrights part of? shared user rights or central auth?
[17:26:55] <Alphos>	^demon, Splarka, i checked, it's not an april fool : we're not in april
[17:27:26] <werdna>	Splarka: centralauth
[17:27:27] <thedj>	MaxSem: i'm luring one :D
[17:27:43] <CIA-12>	03werdna * r56543 10/branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/CodeReview/ui/CodeAuthorListView.php: Merge r56463, fix for code author link display
[17:27:47] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56544 10/branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/ReaderFeedback/specialpages/RatingHistory_body.php: Still show svg links if the png fails to create
[17:28:37] <Splarka>	real bug:
[17:28:57] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Global Rights changes report error, on success - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20695 trivial; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralAuth; (herd)
[17:31:15] *Alphos 	kills Splarka with a rusty chainsaw, without firing it up
[17:31:25] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56545 10/trunk/extensions/ReaderFeedback/specialpages/RatingHistory_body.php: Gah, meant to commit r56544 here first
[17:32:03] <Alphos>	i hesitated with a teaspoon...
[17:32:57] <Splarka>	took ya long enough <3
[17:34:06] <chasep_work>	is there a simple way to get all of a pages subpages, via Article or the like?
[17:34:16] <Splarka>	Special:Prefixindex
[17:34:37] <Splarka>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/Main_Page/
[17:34:52] <chasep_work>	writing a hook, so I need to get them progmatically
[17:35:13] <Splarka>	do what the special page does ^_^
[17:37:46] <CIA-12>	03werdna * r56546 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/api/ApiFeedLQTThreads.php: Only include normal threads in feeds
[17:44:53] <CIA-12>	03werdna * r56547 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/api/ApiFeedLQTThreads.php: Fix bug where feeds with both threads and talkpages specified required a thread to be in both one of the pages and one of the talkpages, which made zero sense
[17:45:12] <tomaszf>	brion: have you had a chance to poke at http://sage.knams.wikimedia.org/static/ ? .. I'm going to take it as my first use case for dumpHTML and learn from it for the rest of our projects .. tweak it and such
[17:46:38] <brion>	nope... what shall i poke?
[17:47:02] <tomaszf>	general brokeness, mis aligned .... etc 
[17:47:57] <chasep_work>	Splarka: or, I can do $article->getTitle()->getSubpages() ?
[17:49:38] <Splarka>	chasep_work: generally subpages aren't actually treated as associated with a page, just in sharing a prefix (and with some magic words, relative links, breadcrumbs to existing parents, etc), but when moving pages they can be, where that function is
[17:50:04] <Splarka>	er sorry, where that function is used
[17:50:37] *werdna 	pokes Duesentrieb 
[17:50:54] <Splarka>	chasep_work: if it works for you then go for it, heh
[17:51:55] <MrZ-man>	"Wikitech users Grawp, JeLuF, Tim and Brion"
[17:52:00] <brion>	rofl
[17:52:04] <MrZ-man>	one of those is not like the others...
[17:53:33] <atglenn>	:-D
[17:54:05] <werdna>	MrZ-man: hwere's that from?
[17:54:21] <MrZ-man>	http://sage.knams.wikimedia.org/static/articles/a/p/a/Apaches.html
[17:54:31] <werdna>	ah, yes
[17:55:13] <CIA-12>	03rotem * r56548 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update.
[17:55:30] <tomaszf>	MrZ-man: feel free to toss in bugs that you see under dumpHTML in bugzilla 
[17:56:05] <tomaszf>	If i can get wikitech to not look like crap .. that's one step closer to getting static.wikpedia back
[17:56:13] <CIA-12>	03siebrand * r56549 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialContributions.php: 
[17:56:13] <CIA-12>	* process messages with escapenoentities instead of escape to allow for example &bull; as pipe-separator
[17:56:13] <CIA-12>	* change string explode to array
[17:56:13] <CIA-12>	* remove hard coded parentheses
[17:56:13] <CIA-12>	* break long lists of parameters
[17:58:53] <brion>	tomaszf: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/edit/Static_test_notes
[17:59:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Per-book stylesheets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15075  +comment (10heldergeovane)
[17:59:10] <tomaszf>	now if only wikitech would load ...
[17:59:35] <werdna>	wfm
[18:08:04] <siebrand>	werdna: the category JS, is that supposed to work on all standard skins? (because it doesn't atm)
[18:08:15] <werdna>	*shrug*
[18:09:42] <siebrand>	werdna: nostalgia and cologneblue do not show it in any way. Oh well, those are not my fav skins anyway, but I'll make a bugzilla for it...
[18:10:43] <wikibugs>	03(mod) bug in uploading new version on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20677  (10dale)
[18:11:54] <siebrand>	werdna: would be nice if the "+" would be a little smaller (about the height of the "C"); where should I mess with that?
[18:14:20] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special page for listing redirect loops - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20681  (10innocentkiller)
[18:14:58] <Reedy>	RoanKattouw_away, dunno if you know.. But you seem to have commited a couple of parts of my avglag patch..
[18:15:00] <Reedy>	But not all of it
[18:15:29] <Reedy>	(or at least, someone has)
[18:16:01] <Annemarie>	"foo@example.com" alone doesn't create a link. Interesting.
[18:17:09] <Reedy>	RoanKattouw_away, oh, no. Ignore me
[18:17:12] <Reedy>	I'm being stupid
[18:21:22] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Yahoo abstracts are incomplete or empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19046  (10tfinc)
[18:24:57] <CJMiller>	Hey
[18:25:04] <CJMiller>	Also, how do I update from 1.14.1 to 1.15.1 the right way?
[18:25:10] <CJMiller>	I tried it recently (republicofkanto.exofire.net/wiki) and every page access gave "Override this function".
[18:26:42] <CJMiller>	A note: I am using a free host, so I have no command-line access.
[18:27:35] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) JavaScript Category add/remove does not work in Nostalgia and Cologneblue skins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20696 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Categories; (siebrand)
[18:28:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) JavaScript Category add/remove does not work in Nostalgia and Cologneblue skins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20696  15enhancement->normal (10siebrand)
[18:28:20] <^demon>	What's cologneblue?
[18:28:25] <CIA-12>	03rotem * r56550 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/OptIn/OptInLink.i18n.php: Localization update for he.
[18:28:30] <siebrand>	^demon: some skin.
[18:28:34] <CJMiller>	Hello...?
[18:28:44] <siebrand>	^demon: try "&useskin=cologneblue"
[18:28:45] *Splarka 	sprays ^demon with a free sample
[18:28:51] <CJMiller>	How do I update from 1.14.1 to 1.15.1 the right way?
[18:28:52] <^demon>	siebrand: we have skins other than monobook & vector? :p
[18:28:53] <CJMiller>	I tried it recently (republicofkanto.exofire.net/wiki) and every page access gave "Override this function".
[18:28:55] <CJMiller>	A note: I am using a free host, so I have no command-line access.
[18:29:09] <siebrand>	^demon: we have skins other than Modern? :)
[18:29:46] *CJMiller 	goes *AHEM*
[18:30:12] <^demon>	!upgrade | CJMiller
[18:30:12] --mwbot--	CJMiller: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading
[18:30:23] <CJMiller>	I'm trying that right now
[18:30:40] *CJMiller 	crosses his fingers and waits for 1.15.1 to finish uploading
[18:30:41] <Splarka>	^demon: never saw davinci? it was what named monobook (the "monochrome" version)
[18:31:07] <^demon>	Well if you don't have command line access (which is the 'right' way to upgrade), there's a way to do it by rerunning the installer.
[18:31:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) bug in uploading new version on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20677  +comment (10ss755)
[18:31:15] <^demon>	That page should say
[18:31:34] <^demon>	Splarka: Davinci is dead :p
[18:32:04] <CJMiller>	Is it possible to just type http://foo.net/w/upgrade.php into the web browser?
[18:32:10] <^demon>	no
[18:32:18] <CJMiller>	OK
[18:32:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) FlaggedRevs main (system) JavaScript variables suddenly at the end of the head tag, after MediaWiki:Common.js etc.; breaks scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20690  +comment (10brion)
[18:33:29] <CJMiller>	^demon: I'm upgrading 1.15.1 to /public-html/mediawiki-1.15.1.
[18:33:39] <CJMiller>	Should I have uploaded it to /public-html/w?
[18:33:55] <^demon>	you need to upload over your current install.
[18:34:11] *^demon 	makes the usual statements about backing up your files/db first
[18:34:16] <CJMiller>	OK
[18:34:45] <Marco27>	^demon: The recent changes to the graphics are due to software update ( http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2009/09/software-updates-wednesday-morning/ ) ?
[18:35:47] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Decrease size of remove.png and add.png for aesthetic reasons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20697 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Categories; (siebrand)
[18:35:51] <brion>	Marco27: can you be more specific about 'changes to graphics'?
[18:36:08] <Reedy>	brion, its broken. duh ;P
[18:36:18] <brion>	Reedy: what's broken specifically?
[18:36:27] <Reedy>	brion, i was being sarcastic. I've no idea
[18:36:27] <Marco27>	brion: Sorry, you're right. The advanced recent changes, for example
[18:36:46] <brion>	Marco27: i'm not aware of any graphics in recentchanges
[18:36:49] <brion>	can you describe?
[18:36:58] <brion>	there have been some layout changes to it
[18:37:16] <brion>	Anybody had a chance to check out https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20677 yet?
[18:37:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Decrease size of remove.png and add.png for aesthetic reasons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20697  (10siebrand)
[18:37:41] *^demon 	has made 0 gfx changes, fwiw
[18:38:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Decrease size of remove.png and add.png for aesthetic reasons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20697  (10siebrand)
[18:39:24] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Decrease size of remove.png and add.png for aesthetic reasons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20697  (10siebrand)
[18:39:28] <Marco27>	brion: Today, I found the graphics changed, the recent changes have some colored data, etc....
[18:40:04] <Marco27>	brion: found --> noted
[18:40:20] <Splarka>	Marco27: do you mean <abbr> flags, like N/m/! ?
[18:42:21] <Marco27>	Sparkla: also this, (+245), for example, is written in green...
[18:42:39] <Brownout>	Marco27: what kind of coloured data? Someone told me that -+chars in red/green were new, but there are there since last year
[18:42:43] <Splarka>	<span class="mw-plusminus-pos">(+32)</span>
[18:43:01] <^demon>	Its been like that for awhile, as well as I can remember.
[18:43:17] <Splarka>	http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/skins/common/shared.css?view=annotate
[18:43:21] <Splarka>	http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/?view=rev&revision=53289
[18:43:28] <Splarka>	added 2 months ago
[18:43:35] <^demon>	people got pissy after I made -pos bold too, but they got over it.
[18:44:13] <Brownout>	hmmm, maybe you're right http://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Utente:Brownout/monobook.css&diff=19713209&oldid=18898331
[18:44:21] <Splarka>	Brownout: been on en.wp for 2+ years, and a few other projects
[18:44:47] <Splarka>	Marco27: those aren't graphics changes tho, the <abbr> N/m/! either, whatcha mean?
[18:44:48] <brion>	^demon: there was a slight change to the size coloring i think, yes. but only slight :)
[18:45:27] <Splarka>	Marco27: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/skins/common/images/ and  http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/skins/monobook/  <-- changes for the last 3 months went live yesterday
[18:45:44] <Splarka>	wait, was it really 3 months... geez
[18:46:21] <brion>	RoanKattouw_away can you guys take a peek at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20668 if you're in?
[18:46:28] <Marco27>	Splarka: Ah, hence yesterday was went live some new features?
[18:46:46] <brion>	trevor's on paternity leave so i don't know if he'll be in to poke it himself :)
[18:46:52] <Marco27>	Brownout: Yes, I mean that... Maybe I didn't see it...
[18:47:04] <Splarka>	Marco27: mostly bugs, a few features slipped in
[18:48:25] <Marco27>	ok, Splarka... Thanks a lot and sorry for the confusion
[18:49:22] <Splarka>	rar
[18:52:59] <wikibugs>	03(mod) bug in uploading new version on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20677  (10dale)
[18:53:31] <brion>	mdale: ok i think i understand how to repro this file upload bug, at least on the server
[18:53:50] <mdale>	yea I can't reproduce locally 
[18:53:56] <brion>	mdale: a one-step reupload (ignoring warnings) seems fine, but if we go through a warning screen, on the next step we get a failure to calculate file hash
[18:53:56] <mdale>	but commons is showing it
[18:54:07] <brion>	so probably something wrong with the handling of upload sessions
[18:54:20] <brion>	maybe the file isn't getting moved to the upload temp directory
[18:54:42] <brion>	in which case it makes sense we can't read it from the next request
[18:55:43] <CIA-12>	03ialex * r56551 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (4 files): 
[18:55:43] <CIA-12>	* indent debug output produced when both $wgShowDebug and $wgDebugFunctionEntry are enabled for better readability. In this case, unindented comment will be displayed "inline" with a yellow background
[18:55:43] <CIA-12>	* added an id to the debug data list
[18:55:43] <CIA-12>	* allow to use $wgShowDebug with $wgDebugComments set to false
[18:55:45] <CIA-12>	* update HTMLFileCache to use full method name in debug output
[18:57:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) bug in uploading new version on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20677  +comment (10brion)
[18:58:33] <avar>	Nikerabbit: Did you hack on any of the YAML stuff yet?
[18:59:51] <BryanTM>	getting an hookaborted error in ApiUpload after trying to upload a stashed file
[18:59:53] <BryanTM>	mwclient.errors.APIError: (u'hookaborted', u'The modification you tried to make was aborted by an extension hook', None)
[19:02:04] <CIA-12>	03shinjiman * r56552 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Literary Chinese
[19:02:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special page for listing redirect loops - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20681  (10macarenor)
[19:03:38] <BryanTM>	incompatible extension probably
[19:03:39] <mdale>	hmm this is kind of tricky to debug... would mwrepo://local/temp/0/00/20090917184743!1Rosa-dos-ventos.JPG .... that path should be universally accessible no? 
[19:04:00] <RoanKattouw>	brion: I'd love to check that bug out, but I don't have Windows; I'll install a virtualization thingy on my laptop later (this box can't take it)
[19:04:17] <CJMiller>	Hey all
[19:04:25] <brion>	ok... i don't have a windows vm on me right now either  (my xp vm file's on my hard drive at home)
[19:04:30] <CJMiller>	I just uploaded 1.15.1 to /www/w as ^demon suggested.
[19:04:34] <CJMiller>	What should I do now?
[19:06:18] <CJMiller>	Nevermind
[19:06:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) JavaScript Category add/remove does not work in Nostalgia and Cologneblue skins - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20696  (10brion)
[19:06:46] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Decrease size of remove.png and add.png for aesthetic reasons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20697  (10brion)
[19:08:06] <RoanKattouw>	brion: Can you sync r56532 for me?
[19:08:07] <Duesentrieb>	werdna: whot?
[19:08:37] <RoanKattouw>	werdna: I'm back, please explain your FeedFormatter problem more clearly; I don't know that code too well
[19:09:01] <brion>	looking
[19:09:07] <wikibugs>	14(WFM) Set up page appears, though site was set up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20693  +comment (10brion)
[19:09:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special page for listing redirect loops - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20681  (10macarenor)
[19:10:29] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Export and Special:Import should transport revision tags. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20691  +comment (10brion)
[19:11:09] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56553 10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.class.php FlaggedRevs.hooks.php FlaggedRevs.php): bug 20690: use MakeGlobalVariablesScript hook
[19:11:39] <Nikerabbit>	avar: nope, but it is next on the plate when I get to hacking
[19:12:14] <avar>	wee
[19:12:18] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) FlaggedRevs main (system) JavaScript variables suddenly at the end of the head tag, after MediaWiki:Common.js etc.; breaks scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20690  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[19:12:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Remove edit and new page creation rights for anons on id.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20666  +comment (10brion)
[19:13:36] <CIA-12>	03dale * r56554 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (4 files in 2 dirs): * some clean up and defined append function in other repo types
[19:15:07] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Database Display in Mediawiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20594  +comment (10brion)
[19:15:23] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56555 10/branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.class.php FlaggedRevs.hooks.php FlaggedRevs.php): Merged r56553: script location fix
[19:15:39] <malafaya>	Special:Allmessages: doesn't it accept ?ot=xml anymore?
[19:16:14] <ThomasV>	brion: will you have time to review my code ? 
[19:16:28] <brion>	ThomasV: ProofreadPage update? after lunch yes
[19:16:36] <ThomasV>	great :-)
[19:16:37] <brion>	got a link for me to leave open? :D
[19:16:39] <Splarka>	malafaya: correct
[19:16:56] <Splarka>	malafaya: <Happy-melon> machine-readable content should be accessed via the API
[19:16:59] <werdna>	RoanKattouw: if there's an API error (dieUsageMsg and what not), then ApiFeedWrapper throws a generic error, rather than actually displaying the real error
[19:17:13] <ThomasV>	brion: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/56522
[19:17:22] <RoanKattouw>	werdna: And that generic error is?
[19:17:22] <werdna>	Duesentrieb: looking at places to stay in Berlin, can I run a place by you?
[19:17:22] <BryanTM>	mdale: are you currently investigating things that break when uploading things that throw a warning?
[19:17:27] <brion>	ThomasV: tx
[19:17:33] <mdale>	yea
[19:17:38] <werdna>	RoanKattouw: ApiBase::dieDebug( __METHOD__, 'Invalid feed class/item' );
[19:17:41] <BryanTM>	because I am doing so as well and found something that may be a problem
[19:17:52] <Duesentrieb>	werdna: sure, but dunno how i can help. 
[19:17:54] <mdale>	I think it has to do with UploadBlacklist ? 
[19:17:56] <RoanKattouw>	Splarka, malafaya, Happy-melon : API allmessages doesn't list the default value or indicate a message is customized (yet), I'll work on that
[19:18:02] <werdna>	Duesentrieb: looking at this place http://www.hostelbookers.com/property/index.cfm?fuseaction=accommodation.search&isdynamic=1&strsearchby=destination&straccommodationtype=hostels&intdestinationid=1002&strdestination=berlin&strdestinationparent=germany&intnights=2&intpeople=1&dtearrival=22%2f09%2f2009&intpropertyid=1453
[19:18:11] <mdale>	did not realize that was part of commons setup...
[19:18:13] <BryanTM>	when you are having a regular UploadFromFile, mTempPath is a real file path, but when using UploadFromStash, mTempPath is a virtual url
[19:18:14] <mdale>	will add to local set up\
[19:18:17] <Duesentrieb>	werdna: when will you be in B and for how long?
[19:18:25] <Splarka>	Roan: indeed
[19:18:33] <werdna>	Duesentrieb: arrive next tuesday 15:55, depart next Thursday 23:03
[19:18:46] <mdale>	BryanTM: right... and ubVerifyHash is hitting the virtual url as a real url? 
[19:18:52] <BryanTM>	there should be an untranslation of the mw:// url to a real path in UploadFromStash::initialize
[19:18:58] <oiahsdoihsdfg>	I'm trying to add some more space between p-personal ul and the content's area, however, when I add a margin-bottom to p-personal ul, the top bar stretches and goes under the article's container, rather than bumping it
[19:18:59] <malafaya>	Splarka, RoanKattouw: I'm asking because apparently that's the reason why Pywikipedia stopped working since yesterday
[19:19:02] <Splarka>	Roan: also was useful to find messages that don't have defaults, like random stuff stuck in that namespace... IIRC
[19:19:03] <BryanTM>	mdale: it is doing sha1_file() on it
[19:19:15] <mdale>	the virtual path instead of the real one....?
[19:19:24] <BryanTM>	yeah
[19:19:32] <werdna>	malafaya: pywikipedia is totally broken
[19:20:05] <mdale>	so should we store the real path in the session ? or update uploadBlacklist to translate virtual urls?
[19:20:16] <BryanTM>	sec
[19:20:49] <Duesentrieb>	werdna: oh... too short, i'll arrive on thursday. and you miss all the atoms&bis fun :)
[19:21:11] <oiahsdoihsdfg>	aahhh.......! It's because column-content container floats
[19:21:12] <werdna>	Duesentrieb: Michelle wants me to go to the Corey Doctorow thing on Tuesday night
[19:21:45] <RoanKattouw>	werdna: Hmm, I guess FormatFeedWrapper isn't designed to handle errors; I'm not sure how it *should* print errors, though
[19:21:58] <Splarka>	oiahsdoihsdfg: yah, it is hit and miss moving that stuff
[19:21:58] <mdale>	BryanTM: we should update the hook callback to send the real path ... fix forthcoming..
[19:22:16] <werdna>	RoanKattouw: I'm thinking XML format, it is probably the sanest method
[19:22:21] <werdna>	or xmlfm
[19:22:22] <Duesentrieb>	werdna: it does ssound like fun :) ok, what do you want to know about the hostel? the location isn't bad, but not too great either.
[19:22:28] <BryanTM>	mdale: http://dpaste.org/x9mK/
[19:22:53] <werdna>	Duesentrieb: I'm not really sure, just generally wondering if it's good accommodation for berlin
[19:22:54] <BryanTM>	I think that would fix it, but I have not tested it
[19:22:58] <mdale>	hmm
[19:22:58] <oiahsdoihsdfg>	now that I added a 1em margin-top to column-content... the button bar got "detached" from the article's area 
[19:23:01] <BryanTM>	currently don't have a proper setup here to test
[19:23:16] <Splarka>	oiahsdoihsdfg: http://p.defau.lt/?F_ZfwUyKUMyF5KboDV6q_g  here is an example
[19:23:23] <Duesentrieb>	werdna: i have never been there, so i can't really tell :) prices seem ok.
[19:23:38] <werdna>	have any alternative suggestions?
[19:24:13] <oiahsdoihsdfg>	what are all those nearly 10em margins?
[19:24:30] <Duesentrieb>	werdna: not in terms of hostels etc. i could check out private loding... maybe.
[19:24:32] <oiahsdoihsdfg>	ops, top is position not margin
[19:24:41] *werdna 	shrugs
[19:24:46] <Duesentrieb>	:P
[19:25:26] <Duesentrieb>	werdna: well, that hostel has a bar tha looks like the engine room of the Enterprise, that's hard to beat :)
[19:25:27] <BryanTM>	ok, I think this is it
[19:25:35] <Splarka>	oiahsdoihsdfg: it is an extreme example, you just decrease the numbers, heh
[19:25:52] <RoanKattouw>	werdna: What's the price of that hostel? I stayed in one that was like 14-17 EUR per night (on 4 or 6-bed dorms)
[19:25:56] <werdna>	Duesentrieb: :)
[19:26:41] <Duesentrieb>	werdna: ask !berlin at identi.ca :)
[19:26:55] <Duesentrieb>	from a first look, it looks big & commercial.
[19:26:58] <werdna>	RoanKattouw: 16,50 EUR / night
[19:26:58] <Duesentrieb>	it's probably fine.
[19:27:29] <werdna>	but 21,50 / night for wednesday for some reason
[19:27:31] <CIA-12>	03btongminh * r56556 10/trunk/phase3/includes/upload/UploadFromStash.php: Resolving virtual url of temp path for stashed files, unbreaking stashed uploads.
[19:27:35] <RoanKattouw>	Yeah, you're not gonna get them much cheaper
[19:27:47] <mdale>	BryanTM: did some testing works for me too
[19:28:21] <Duesentrieb>	werdna: no free wifi :P
[19:28:55] <mdale>	yea did not have those extensions installed. ... we should probably push out 56556 to wmf deployment 
[19:29:22] <BryanTM>	doing now
[19:29:27] <CIA-12>	03btongminh * r56557 10/branches/wmf-deployment/includes/upload/UploadFromStash.php: Merging btongminh * r56556 /trunk/phase3/includes/upload/UploadFromStash.php: Resolving virtual url of temp path for stashed files, unbreaking stashed uploads.
[19:29:44] <BryanTM>	werdna, could you svn up on test.wikipedia?
[19:30:53] <werdna>	BryanTM: wherefore?
[19:30:59] <BryanTM>	r56557 
[19:31:07] <werdna>	it freaks me out when people merge stuff to wmf-deployment
[19:31:16] <Duesentrieb>	werdna: go to bvg.de and look at the routes it gives you for going from the hostel to some places that interest you.
[19:31:29] <werdna>	seriously, at least get a go-ahead from somebody who's actually going to deploy it
[19:31:40] <BryanTM>	ok, will do so next time
[19:31:49] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Weird font sizes in jsMsg and line-heights on <div> wrapped content on vector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20698 minor; Normal; MediaWiki: Vector Skin; (bawolff+wn)
[19:31:51] <oiahsdoihsdfg>	uhm... I have to modify both the contents and p-cactions position, and also the footer because as the contents area move down it covers the footer
[19:32:09] *^demon 	commits to trunk and annoys werdna til he merges :p
[19:32:49] <RoanKattouw>	werdna: Try http://toolserver.org/~catrope/feed.patch
[19:32:58] <BryanTM>	poor werdna
[19:33:03] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Weird font sizes in jsMsg and line-heights on <div> wrapped content on vector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20698  (10bawolff+wn)
[19:33:44] <CIA-12>	03dale * r56558 10/trunk/phase3/includes/upload/UploadFromChunks.php: * minor fix to uploadFromChunks in case its initialized with a real path instead of a virtual path
[19:35:00] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Weird font sizes in jsMsg and line-heights on <div> wrapped content on vector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20698   +code-update-regression (10roan.kattouw)
[19:36:27] <AlexSm>	bug: Special:Log/protect is missing protection options; any chaance this is fixed in the code already?
[19:36:59] <oiahsdoihsdfg>	floating the main article's area is more compatible across multiple browsers?
[19:37:41] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) API watchlist should list log-events - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20699 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: API; (kceczolx)
[19:38:52] <AaronSchulz>	bah
[19:39:48] <CIA-12>	03catrope * r56559 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (DefaultSettings.php api/ApiMain.php): API: Per CR comments on r56091, make the timeout for the API help cache configurable
[19:39:48] <user070109>	Help someone. Am using MW 1.15.1 on OpenSolaris. After successful config I keep getting returned to the "Please  set up the wiki first. " page
[19:40:13] <RoanKattouw>	user070109: Have you moved LocalSettings.php from the config/ directory to the directory above?
[19:40:41] <user070109>	RoanKattouw: no LocalSettings.php in config directory
[19:40:54] <RoanKattouw>	user070109: Is there one in the directory above then?
[19:41:29] <oiahsdoihsdfg>	p-cactions { margin-top } matching content { top } did it
[19:42:21] <user070109>	RoanKattouw: thanks. No. nothing in mediawiki root either
[19:43:22] <Duesentrieb>	user070109: and it didn't complan about not being able to write the config file?
[19:43:32] <RoanKattouw>	user070109: Then *something* went wrong during the installation, cause LocalSettings.php should be *somewhere*
[19:44:23] <user070109>	No - permissions are a+w for config and owners/group is webservd:bin (webserver Apache2.2). No complaints during installation.
[19:44:26] *^demon 	wonders if install.php couldn't write to /config but thought it could.
[19:45:22] <user070109>	Could be that, but no feedback during installation. How to get verbose logging?
[19:45:46] <user070109>	chmod -R a+w config/
[19:46:47] <user070109>	find / -type f -name "LocalSettings.php" came up with nothing
[19:46:50] <^demon>	user070109: No real extended debug output in the installer :\
[19:47:51] <user070109>	Installation found no missing items, write permissions seem permissive (temporary)
[19:48:00] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Special:Allmessages export interface lost - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20700 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (Platonides)
[19:48:34] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Protection log is missing all options - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20701 major; Normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (AlexSm)
[19:48:56] <Splarka>	Platonides: change that to an API component
[19:49:40] <Splarka>	<RoanKattouw> Splarka, malafaya, Happy-melon : API allmessages doesn't list the default value or indicate a message is customized (yet), I'll work on that
[19:49:58] <user070109>	^demon: is there a manual install (step-by-step, painful long way around?)
[19:50:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) An easy way for admins to look up messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15802  (10conrad.irwin)
[19:51:39] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) bug in uploading new version on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20677  +comment (10dale)
[19:51:47] <CIA-12>	03philip * r56560 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Follow up on r55415 and r56458. Use another way to disable variants. Server admins could disable some variants using a global variable.
[19:54:02] <CIA-12>	03philip * r56561 10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: Follow up on r56560. Typo.
[19:54:09] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Weird font sizes in jsMsg and line-heights on <div> wrapped content on vector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20698  (10bawolff+wn)
[20:04:05] <aiousdhsad>	how do I make the sidebar items non bullet listed?
[20:04:39] <Platonides>	Splarka, originally it wasn't at the api
[20:04:46] <CIA-12>	03catrope * r56563 10/trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/EditToolbar.hooks.php: EditToolbar: Fix stupid if ( !foo && foo ) construct, which is obviously never true.
[20:04:57] <Splarka>	Platonides: no, but that is the solution vector if you don't want a WONTFIX
[20:05:03] <werdna>	BryanTM: sorry, looks like I didn't update UploadFromStash properly
[20:05:10] <werdna>	can you check that it's working properly on testwiki now?
[20:05:39] <Platonides>	Splarka, backwards compatibility?
[20:05:49] <Platonides>	to be fair I don't know why does pywikipediabot need them
[20:06:23] <Splarka>	<werdna> You should probably be using the API if you want machine-readable input, though <werdna> Marco27: no, all pywikipedia bots are broken <werdna> that's their own fault for screenscraping
[20:06:27] <Platonides>	just that an important bot started failing due to exceptions being thrown from that
[20:06:41] <Platonides>	yeah, but it wasn't screenscraping
[20:06:46] <Splarka>	*shrug*
[20:06:49] <Platonides>	it was using the xml interface
[20:06:58] <Splarka>	just repeating what they've been saying all day ^_^
[20:07:03] <Platonides>	what returned xml now returns html
[20:07:27] *Splarka 	puts a stroopwafel into werdna and pulls his string
[20:07:29] <Platonides>	if they had been screenscraping, it would have fallbacked more nicely
[20:07:39] <BryanTM>	testing...
[20:08:09] <BryanTM>	werdna: it works
[20:08:14] <BryanTM>	thanks :)
[20:08:37] *Splarka 	still wants action=render for special pages, so he can skip ads and skin and horrible delays loading css/js just to quickly get info from a wiki
[20:08:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) wikEd compatibility: toolbar focuses on hidden textarea - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20498  high->normal; +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[20:08:45] <jessD>	Is it possible to include square brackets in an article title?  Escaping them doesn't seem to work..
[20:08:53] <RoanKattouw>	jessD: No
[20:09:06] <jessD>	RoanKattouw : Thanks
[20:09:14] <werdna>	BryanTM: syncin'
[20:09:44] <RoanKattouw>	jessD: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgLegalTitleChars#Problem_characters
[20:10:58] <wikibugs>	03(mod) bug in uploading new version on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20677  (10verszil)
[20:11:05] <Splarka>	he left
[20:11:21] <Splarka>	I was gonna say he could use U+2045 and U+2046 or other cheats
[20:11:50] <wikibugs>	03(mod) bug in uploading new version on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20677  +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh)
[20:11:56] <Splarka>	or U+27E8/U+27E9
[20:12:48] <Splarka>	301A/301B are cute
[20:12:56] <aiousdhsad>	ah
[20:13:01] <aiousdhsad>	bullet list style 
[20:16:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Protection log is missing all options - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20701  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[20:19:28] <wikibugs>	03(mod) bug in uploading new version on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20677  (10verszil)
[20:20:58] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56564 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LogPage.php: bug 20701: fixed strange breakage from r53173
[20:21:47] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Protection log is missing all options - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20701  +comment (10JSchulz_4587)
[20:22:42] <CIA-12>	03aaron * r56565 10/branches/wmf-deployment/includes/LogPage.php: merged r56564: protection log fix
[20:24:55] <RoanKattouw>	brion: About the IE8-hangs-and-OOMs-on-toolbar bug: I'm gonna go now, but I'll install Xen on my laptop tomorrow and try to reproduce it
[20:25:15] <Bryan>	mdale: there are still some problems with reuploads
[20:25:25] <Bryan>	(the procedure brion outlined in the bug report)
[20:25:29] <mdale>	oky
[20:28:17] <Bryan>	it doesn't show me the "continue form" on en.wp after a warning
[20:30:37] <mdale>	yea for me either.. :(
[20:31:39] <mdale>	"works locally" ... I realize now that I should really replicate environments ... perhaps another extension issue? 
[20:32:29] <Bryan>	oh right... this is an error not a warning
[20:32:33] *Bryan 	slaps self
[20:33:52] <Bryan>	mdale: false alarm 
[20:34:42] <wikibugs>	03(mod) bug in uploading new version on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20677  (10Bryan.TongMinh)
[20:35:20] <Bryan>	hmm there is a lot of ui to be fixed, but I'll look at that later
[20:35:29] <mdale>	but if you do upload from en.wikipedia to a target commons file it does act strange.. / the error msg is not correct
[20:35:57] <mdale>	or never mind...
[20:41:38] <wikibugs>	03(mod) bug in uploading new version on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20677  (10verszil)
[20:44:21] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Allow use of magic words in MediaWiki:Missing-article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20702 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (gtisza)
[20:44:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Allmessages export interface lost - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20700  normal->major (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[20:49:44] <wikibugs>	03(mod) bug in uploading new version on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20677  (10Bryan.TongMinh)
[20:51:04] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) data loss in is.wikt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20703 critical; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (spacebirdy)
[20:56:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Per-book stylesheets - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15075  (10heldergeovane)
[20:59:17] <wikibugs>	03(mod) bug in uploading new version on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20677  (10verszil)
[21:00:58] <brion>	ThomasV: still here?
[21:01:34] <ThomasV>	yes
[21:02:07] <brion>	ok first suggestion: you're running the exact some code like 4 times in a row in pr_OutputPageBeforeHTML. it'll be a lot easier to read and maintain if you maybe split that duplicate code into a function or a loop
[21:02:45] <ThomasV>	ok
[21:03:01] <brion>	pr_update_pr_index is more worrying to me as it appears to be duping page titles directly into SQL with no escaping
[21:03:12] <brion>	*dumping
[21:03:15] <Platonides>	that bug 20703 looks quite scary
[21:03:16] <brion>	that's very unsafe
[21:05:37] <ThomasV>	oh I forgot that one
[21:07:54] <brion>	there's also just a lot of places where you can make your life easier using the database wrappers instead of building your own sql :)
[21:08:04] <brion>	but you can worry about that later, no rush
[21:08:15] <ThomasV>	I do not know what they are
[21:08:35] <brion>	$db->select() $db->insert() $db->update() $db->replace() etc
[21:08:48] <brion>	can take care of escaping and building lists and lots of things
[21:08:53] <ThomasV>	oh sure, but I have some complex queries
[21:09:08] <brion>	*nod* some might not be possible with pure wrappers yet, but a lot are
[21:09:26] <brion>	anyway no rush on those :D just fix up the escapes are we're good for now
[21:09:28] <ThomasV>	yes, I felt more comfortable knowing what I was doing
[21:09:30] <werdna>	Most of them
[21:09:44] <werdna>	we can do joins and what not with the wrappers
[21:10:19] <ThomasV>	brion : did you check the special page ? I do not know if I did it right 
[21:10:32] <brion>	lemme peek
[21:11:41] <brion>	ThomasV: i can't help but feel like something's missing from getSQL() there
[21:11:51] <brion>	$name = $dbr->addQuotes( $this->getName() ); but then $name is not used in the query
[21:12:04] <brion>	is that just extraneous?
[21:12:36] <ThomasV>	oh yes, I forgot to remove that
[21:12:44] <ThomasV>	it is extraneous
[21:12:46] <brion>	:D
[21:13:08] <ThomasV>	I created this table as a cache, for the special page
[21:13:09] <atglenn>	heh
[21:13:52] <ThomasV>	because it would be too expensive to query the proofreading status of all pages everytime the special page is called
[21:14:05] <ThomasV>	so that's why I requested the schema change
[21:14:22] <ThomasV>	just to make sure you get the idea of it
[21:14:37] <brion>	ok
[21:16:43] <ThomasV>	brion: I also modified PdfHandler, to read text layer, like I did with djvu
[21:16:51] <brion>	oh awesome
[21:17:32] <werdna>	Nikerabbit: poke?
[21:17:36] <ThomasV>	I copied the same type of paranoid utf8 cleanup, even though I am not sure if it is useful there
[21:18:23] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enhanced Editor Bar hanging on IE 8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20668  +comment (10brion)
[21:18:39] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Advanced toolbar is not available in IE 7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20673  +comment (10brion)
[21:19:15] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Smaller fontsize for vector sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20686  +comment (10brion)
[21:19:25] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Weird font sizes in jsMsg and line-heights on <div> wrapped content on vector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20698  +comment (10brion)
[21:19:53] <brion>	ThomasV: it's always wise to validate input text :)
[21:20:12] <ThomasV>	good
[21:21:45] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Text Overlap - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20640  +comment (10brion)
[21:22:48] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Personal javascript preview not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20631  +comment (10brion)
[21:23:13] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enhanced Editor Bar hanging on IE 8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20668  +comment (10henk)
[21:28:40] <CIA-12>	03siebrand * r56566 10/trunk/phase3/ (216 files in 2 dirs): Localisation updates for core messages from translatewiki.net (2009-09-17 21:11 UTC)
[21:34:09] <CIA-12>	03siebrand * r56567 10/trunk/extensions/ (69 files in 60 dirs): Localisation updates for extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-09-17 21:11 UTC)
[21:39:41] <wikibugs>	03(mod) data loss in is.wikt - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20703   +code-update-regression +shell (10Wiki.Melancholie)
[21:39:49] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Database name is exposed in HTML, JS output (information disclosure) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20594  summary (10brion)
[21:39:54] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enhanced Editor Bar hanging on IE 8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20668  (10brion)
[21:44:07] <Mike_lifeguard>	Is <tt></tt> a standard markup element for MediaWiki? Do I need any extensions installed to get that to work?
[21:44:26] <Splarka>	it is whitelisted html
[21:45:21] <Splarka>	http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/Sanitizer.php?view=co&content-type=text%2Fplain  $htmlpairsStatic
[21:46:02] <Splarka>	http://www.w3schools.com/tags/html5_tt.asp
[21:46:19] <Splarka>	deprecated
[21:46:22] <Mike_lifeguard>	sigh, well, it doesn't work on my wiki :)
[21:46:28] <aaak>	how do I change the powered by mediawiki logo?
[21:46:57] <Mike_lifeguard>	aaak: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#How_can_I_edit_.2F_remove_the_Powered_by_MediaWiki_image_in_the_footer.3F
[21:46:59] <Splarka>	by powering it by something else ^_^
[21:47:08] <Reedy>	Beans?
[21:47:32] <Splarka>	Mike_lifeguard: then you're doing something wrong?
[21:47:44] <Mike_lifeguard>	well I knew that already :D
[21:48:38] <aaak>	aaa...
[21:48:40] <aaak>	found it
[21:48:52] <CIA-12>	03tomasz * r56568 10/trunk/backup/WikiDump.py: mkdir -p functionality
[21:48:57] <aaak>	f-copyrightico
[21:49:47] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) Cannot Edit--Memory Overload at Line 76 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20704 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (LAlawMedMBA)
[21:50:02] <Splarka>	Mike_lifeguard: tracing it back, it has been unchanged at least since mediawiki 1.5
[21:50:31] <Splarka>	do you have 1.16 and are you using html5 perchance?
[21:51:04] <wikibugs>	14(DUP) Cannot Edit--Memory Overload at Line 76 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20704  +comment (10brion)
[21:51:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enhanced Editor Bar hanging on IE 8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20668  +comment (10brion)
[21:51:10] <aaak>	seems that copyright ico is translucid, the background color affects it
[21:51:22] <aaak>	*translucent
[21:51:31] <Mike_lifeguard>	Splarka: no clue, but that was going to be my next thing to check
[21:51:49] *Mike_lifeguard 	is at 55644, fwiw
[21:52:13] <Splarka>	http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/skins/common/images/poweredby_mediawiki_88x31.png?view=co
[21:52:14] <aaak>	mediawikiskins is non official?
[21:52:37] <Splarka>	that one looks opaque to me, but am not looking very hard
[21:52:53] <CIA-12>	03ialex * r56569 10/trunk/phase3/includes/AutoLoader.php: Only set "unserialize_callback_func" if we use it, otherwise it can throw warning saying that __autoload() is not defined
[21:53:00] <aaak>	referata copyright logo :P
[21:53:01] <Mike_lifeguard>	is there a $wg for doctype (or, whether to do html5 or not)?
[21:53:20] <ialex>	Mike_lifeguard: $wgHtml5
[21:53:39] <Splarka>	ialex: would enabling that disable <tt> ?
[21:53:59] <ialex>	Splarka: it's enabled by default ;)
[21:54:09] <Splarka>	yes, I'd guessed
[21:54:13] <Mike_lifeguard>	seems to have no effect on this, at least
[21:54:19] <Splarka>	okay, would NOT disabling that ^(repeat)
[21:54:27] <Splarka>	huh
[21:54:32] <ialex>	seems it's not on Wikimedia
[21:54:58] <ialex>	but it doesn't change allowed tags in wikitext
[21:55:33] <Splarka>	arr, damn whitespace and annotate
[21:59:40] <Splarka>	Mike_lifeguard: I've traced it back to http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/?view=rev&revision=1284
[21:59:45] <Splarka>	just in case you're interested, heh
[22:00:02] <Splarka>	this predates version 1.1
[22:00:17] <CIA-12>	03thomasv * r56570 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ (ProofreadPage.php SpecialProofreadPages.php): various fixes after brion's feedback
[22:01:53] <brion>	whee
[22:01:58] <Mike_lifeguard>	Splarka: not so much... I'd rather it just work :P
[22:02:20] <Splarka>	can you link to your wiki? does <code></code> work?
[22:03:08] <Mike_lifeguard>	yes
[22:05:21] <ThomasV>	today I learned what sql injection is
[22:05:33] <cirwin>	the hard way?
[22:05:48] <ThomasV>	no, the soft way
[22:06:07] <cirwin>	you have that to be tahnkful for then :)
[22:07:36] <ThomasV>	well that's not true; I have known the xkcd joke about it for quite some time
[22:08:05] <ThomasV>	http://xkcd.com/327/
[22:09:28] <brion>	:D
[22:12:23] <brion>	ThomasV: still don't seem to be escaping the page titles...
[22:13:33] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enhanced Editor Bar hanging on IE 8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20668  +comment (10Simetrical+wikibugs)
[22:15:06] <ThomasV>	brion: oh sorry; it's late here 
[22:16:37] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Cancel link from edit page always returns to current version instead of version being edited - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20517  (10rwoodworth)
[22:18:47] <^demon>	Weird, BZ isn't remembering my login.
[22:19:00] <^demon>	Login, try to do something, no longer logged in.
[22:19:01] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Special:Allmessages export interface lost - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20700  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[22:20:16] <brion>	ThomasV: no worries, if you don't have time now we can poke it later
[22:20:25] <^demon>	Hmm works in FF. Wonder why Chrome's wonky.
[22:21:10] <ThomasV>	brion: I do have time; I'm just a bit sleepy
[22:21:14] <brion>	:D
[22:21:21] <brion>	coding while sleepy is dangerous ;)
[22:21:25] <brion>	do it when you're awake :D
[22:21:36] *ThomasV 	get coffee
[22:21:45] <ThomasV>	*gets*
[22:22:06] <^demon>	brion: Hasn't like 70% of MW been written while low on sleep and high on caffeine?
[22:22:10] <cirwin>	isn't there that point of optimal sleepiness, you go through a rough patch, then there's the perfect zen of being too tired to get distracted, and then you crash
[22:22:20] <brion>	^demon: i'm not sure it's always caffeine
[22:22:23] <brion>	some of that code is just *weird*!
[22:22:32] <^demon>	cirwin: I think that's called a coke high.
[22:22:38] <cirwin>	oh
[22:23:35] <Splarka>	AryehGregor: you might consider removing unsupported tags from the sanitizer with $wgHtml5 enabled, like <tt>, as it seems the newer browsers will do that themselves (FF3)
[22:23:49] <^demon>	brion: I wonder how many drunk commits we have?
[22:24:29] <brion>	too many :)
[22:25:19] <CIA-12>	03thomasv * r56571 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php: escape page titles
[22:25:20] <ThomasV>	brion: ok, done
[22:25:27] *cirwin 	sneakily sells beers to everythign in the 55000s
[22:25:37] <werdna>	I've got a few I think
[22:27:17] <brion>	whee
[22:28:02] <^demon>	brion: Got time to a look over a absurdly simple extension for mw.org?
[22:28:42] <ThomasV>	brion: note that r56414 depends on the previous commit to PdfHandler (r56413)
[22:28:55] <cirwin>	Got time to look over an absurdly complicated one for wikt? :p
[22:29:53] <ThomasV>	I added it as a comment
[22:30:10] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Enhanced Editor Bar hanging on IE 8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20668  (10rohde)
[22:49:40] <wikibugs>	03(NEW) api review action fails with syncerror - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20705 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (bawolff+wn)
[22:54:19] <CIA-12>	03nimishg * r56572 10/trunk/phase3/skins/vector/ (main-ltr.css main-rtl.css): increased size of side bar and personal links, fixes bug #20686
[22:55:15] <wikibugs>	03(FIXED) Smaller fontsize for vector sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20686  +comment (10ngautam)
[23:04:15] <meoblast001>	why isn't $wgLogo = "$IP/logo.png"; working?
[23:04:28] <meoblast001>	i have a logo.png in my wiki directory
[23:04:35] <brion>	meoblast001: you need a web path there
[23:04:39] <brion>	$IP is a local filesystem path
[23:04:42] <meoblast001>	ooh
[23:05:08] <CIA-12>	03mrzman * r56573 10/trunk/phase3/ (includes/ChangesList.php skins/common/shared.css): Fix for r55393, put the padding:0 on the td's rather than the tables
[23:08:26] <Emufarmers>	^demon: MW.org extension?
[23:08:56] <^demon>	Emufarmers: Yeah
[23:09:17] <^demon>	!r 55322
[23:09:17] --mwbot--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/55322
[23:09:48] <Emufarmers>	Oh, that one
[23:10:17] <^demon>	ya
[23:14:16] <thedj>	hmm, that is.wp issue is weird.
[23:14:26] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Form kills Dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15245  (10yaron57)
[23:14:36] <meoblast001>	thanks brion 
[23:14:47] <meoblast001>	sorry about the delay in that
[23:15:17] <brion>	:D
[23:16:11] *werdna 	yawwwns
[23:16:22] <werdna>	got to sleep at 4 last night
[23:16:34] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Weird font sizes in jsMsg and line-heights on <div> wrapped content on vector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20698  (10ngautam)
[23:16:45] <Emufarmers>	werdna: tell me about it :v
[23:16:56] <ThomasV>	good night
[23:17:52] <wikibugs>	03(mod) post expand size counted multiple times for nested transclusions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13260  high->normal; +comment (10chinchi29)
[23:19:05] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Deprecated Article::insertNewArticle still used in core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18891  high->normal; +comment (10chinchi29)
[23:28:18] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Weird font sizes in jsMsg and line-heights on <div> wrapped content on vector - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20698  (10bawolff+wn)
[23:28:59] <aaakk>	I"m trying to make a wider sidebar, however, when I set a fixed width the whole sidebar bumps down the screen, under the content's area
[23:30:27] <aaakk>	uhhmmm
[23:30:34] <aaakk>	-12.2em
[23:31:17] <CIA-12>	03brion * r56574 10/branches/wmf-deployment/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Merge Nimish's fix to sidebar font sizes from r56572
[23:54:30] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Form kills Dates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15245  (10dasch_87)
[23:57:31] <wikibugs>	03(mod) Deprecated Article::insertNewArticle still used in core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18891  (10siebrand)