[00:05:40] Problem with database after upgrading to 1.15.1: One article title is causing mw to crash (blank page in browser). Can I just drop that page from the table in the database, directly? [00:05:54] Feels a bit scary to do that, is it safe? [00:09:56] does it load with ?action=edit or ?action=history? [00:11:02] *checking* [00:13:06] Splarka: Yes it does! [00:13:15] then you can action=delete.... OR... [00:13:20] you can try to find out what the problem is [00:13:27] try action=edit and [preview] [00:13:28] Well, I did move [00:13:40] the page, the server, or your house? [00:14:02] I thought the problem was that the title includes a non-ascii character, which for some reason got messed up during the upgrade [00:14:36] That is, all non-ascii characters in page titles got messed up, but I was able to fix all the other pages by moving them manually [00:14:46] So yes, moving the page. :) [00:15:24] Tried preview now, that gives me a blank page again [00:15:28] does it work after move? [00:16:36] No, that didn't help (I moved from the messed up title to the right one, with the non-ascii character in place again) [00:18:33] right [00:18:35] Well, I managed to delete the page, and I guess I can probably dig out the old version from the xml dump of the database that I did before the upgrade, so problem should be solved, hopefully... [00:18:40] so remove half the page, prevew, remove half the page, preview [00:18:57] you might have a parser extension that is being used on that page and causing probs [00:19:27] That is right, I have a parser extension (KMLExport), and I am having problems with it... [00:19:46] But it is in a lot of pages, none of them are behaving like this... [00:25:47] So, I undeleted the page, did action=edit, and cut out everything - that at least removes the crashes (so it's not the non-ascii issue) [00:26:06] indeed [00:26:09] so find what it is ^_^ [00:32:54] 03(mod) Make categories take flagged revs into account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20813 (10JSchulz_4587) [00:33:29] Hm, it is really weird... I put back in almost everything, and it was fine, but suddenly it crashed, and all the content disappeared... And that was before I had come to the part with KMLExport [00:33:58] Have another extension though, Player, so I thought it could be that - but then I tried everything except that one, and it crashed again... [00:34:45] so why does uploading also require the edit and create rights (eg: B#18408) [00:34:59] 03(mod) Make categories take flagged revs into account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20813 (10JSchulz_4587) [00:37:59] Uploading a file creates a file description page? [00:38:02] 03(mod) Add a magic word to specify the default format for the new formatdate parser function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17905 +comment (10b-jorsch) [00:40:31] Natalie: not reupload [00:42:59] That wasn't the question. [00:43:07] Reupload edits. [00:44:53] "and create rights" [00:45:11] reuploading is uploading, if it doesn't then he phrased it badly ^_^ [00:45:21] the api doesnt have any equivalent to action=edit§ion=N for retrieving the wikitext of a given section does it? [00:45:28] IIRC you can revert without any reupload or upload rights, if you can edit the page [00:45:44] hmm [00:46:00] &rvsection [00:46:14] thanks [00:46:57] don't you don't have to create the page on upload, you just commonly do for the licensing info and such [00:47:11] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&rvprop=content&titles=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&rvsection=12 [00:47:32] p858snake: an upload to a non-existing page necessarily creates the page [00:47:38] the upload summary is used for the contents [00:47:50] you DO have to create one, else you don't upload [00:49:06] it used to be, that you would see a 'N' entry on recent changes for every file uploaded [00:49:10] but that was suppressed as spammy [00:49:48] 03brion * r56937 10/trunk/ (25 files in 17 dirs): (log message trimmed) [00:49:48] Revert broken rewrite of login system; totally broken. [00:49:48] * Login doesn't attach to session properly, so can't stay logged in! [00:49:48] * Password field shown in plaintext! [00:49:48] If it just DOESN'T WORK please keep it on a work branch, don't put it in trunk! [00:49:49] Reverted: [00:49:53] r56682 [00:50:22] and is there an api for getting the TOC or some other overview of sections? [00:51:13] 03(NEW) Editing a page with API removes page from watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20816 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: API; (bawolff+wn) [00:53:38] hippietrail: yah... er... hmm [00:54:00] action=parse&prop=sections [00:54:21] yah, but that requires parse [00:54:33] but it has an ugly dependency which makes sense for the page view but not for an api [00:54:34] also doesn't give you edit sections, only the TOC [00:55:03] the "index" parameter is useless for sections, as it doesn't factor in template sections or non-editable sections [00:55:12] addressing sections by number alone is useless for many use cases, especially on enwiktionary [00:56:47] but short of adding a way to address sections in more complex ways, enumerating the sections by sequence name and depth would let us figure out complex addressing ourselves [00:57:22] hmm, actually [00:57:24] http://test.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=parse&prop=sections&page=Sections [00:57:49] last time I checked the index was useless, but now it is accurate [00:57:55] maybe roan fixed it ^_^ [00:58:03] > line="Unprotected transcluded section" number="5" index="T-1" [00:58:10] > line="XML section" number="4" index="" [00:58:23] XML sections are ineditable [00:58:27] ooh that has other useful metadata i didn't think of [00:59:56] okay, bbl [01:03:42] "Revert broken rewrite of login system; totally broken." [01:03:48] rofl [01:04:01] I like the redundancy [01:08:25] 03(mod) CSS fix for Extension:FlaggedRevs (RTL wikis) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20731 (10JSchulz_4587) [01:16:41] any non us peep out there that could load this GeoIP module and tell me if it spits back something sane location wise .. http://c2p2.fkbuild.com/index.php/Special:GeoIP ? [01:17:35] sane for me [01:17:47] cirwin: which country did it spit back ? [01:17:52] gb [01:18:02] i'll be mailing the chapters tonight to test it out [01:18:11] we'll be using it for our donation portal and other bits later [01:18:13] what's it for [01:18:13] ? [01:18:16] oh [01:18:16] ok [01:18:26] show relevant payment methods, direct to the correct chapter based on location [01:18:44] but generally re-usable for whatever [01:19:06] its using the free db from maxmime so country level granularity looks to be fine .. 4/4 so far right [01:19:19] thanks! [01:52:28] tomaszf: Be sure to include an override, eh? [01:52:39] I hate getting locked out of sites because geolocation fails. [01:52:46] And you have lots of techy people who might tunnel or whatever. [01:53:20] Natalie: good points! [01:53:40] anyone else around that not in the US who can tell me if this gets it right .. http://dev.donate.wikimedia.org/index.php/Special:GeoIP ? [01:54:08] [01:54:09] Unknown [01:55:28] thanks! [01:57:02] ah, but that's probably via ipv6. i guess commercial geoip still only does v4 [01:57:36] possibly .. this is also just the publicly available data set from maxmime [01:58:13] maxmind* [01:59:10] is there a way to make the mediawiki search strip html tags in search results? [02:06:20] for some reason I just verified the gpg sig on the stable mediawiki release [02:06:20] and much to my dismay it is signed with an expired key [02:06:20] is that right? [02:07:14] paging tim starling [02:09:26] it expired 10 days after the signature was made [02:09:28] wtf [02:09:31] hello? [02:47:49] 03(NEW) Creation of a new namespace in pt.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20817 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; (valdir.jorge) [02:52:16] 03(mod) Creation of a new namespace in pt.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20817 (10p858snake) [03:13:12] wiretapped: patience is a virtue, he may not be around or could be busy [03:13:56] patience is for weaks :p [03:14:31] I can't wait to show you how patient I am [03:22:14] ^^ [03:43:07] 03(NEW) urls of the form wiki/article?curid=something should be indexable by robots on wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20818 major; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (bawolff+wn) [04:21:02] 03(NEW) Please create a list for Commons Oversighters and those needing oversight action on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20819 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (lar) [04:36:28] 03(NEW) Commons oversight mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20820 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (Tiptoety) [04:37:31] ... I see dupe people [04:38:05] *apergos groans [04:40:14] Splarka: {{Sofixit}} [04:41:28] 14(DUP) Commons oversight mailing list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20820 +comment (10p858snake) [04:41:29] 03(mod) Please create a list for Commons Oversighters and those needing oversight action on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20819 +comment (10p858snake) [04:41:48] 03(mod) Please create a list for Commons Oversighters and those needing oversight action on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20819 (10p858snake) [05:02:32] p858snake: even though it's not necessarily intuitive, it's probably the desired behavior. [05:02:50] umm the upload thing? [05:03:08] If you've set up a wiki where only a certain class of user is allowed to edit, you don't want to suddenly find that regular users can upload. [05:04:11] you still should need three rights to manage uploading new content, the one "upload" right should consolodate that [05:04:13] Granted, it's not big of a deal, and configurations where that would be an issue are probably relatively rare (since most people would just prohibit registration or use ConfirmAccount for that). [05:04:30] Huh? [05:05:07] i mentioned that you shouldn't need Create, Edit and Upload to upload a new file to wiki [05:05:38] *you still shouldn't need [05:05:43] Yes, that's on my bug; I know what you wrote there. :p [05:10:17] I just tested: you only need createpage if you're uploading a file under a name where there isn't any file presently [05:10:24] I started writing a fix for the bug... [05:10:43] (that is, the lack of fail-fast behavior, not the fact that 'edit' is requireD) [05:18:56] do you still only need 'edit' and permission to edit a given file page, to revert to a previous version? [05:30:39] this link works: [05:30:39] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ewa_Kami%C5%84ska-Eichler [05:30:52] but {{Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/V%C4%9Bra Soukupov%C3%A1|Vera Soukupov�}} [05:30:54] does not [05:31:07] how do i make this template work? [05:31:19] thank you [05:35:57] because theres no templated called that [05:40:59] Splarka: I would assume so, but... [05:41:09] Image reverting seems to be broken entirely on my test wiki [05:41:32] When I submit on http://test.emufarmers.com/w/index.php?title=File:Emu2.jpg&action=revert&oldimage=20090926050911%21Emu2.jpg it doesn't do anything [05:41:54] runnign stable, svn or wmf-deploy? [05:41:58] svn [05:42:00] oh, I see [05:42:18] I had crippled the upload directory's permissions because I was working on a different bug [05:43:14] rum: [[]] not {{}} [05:43:25] That's not what was causing the problem, though :( [05:43:29] rage. [05:43:34] berserker? [05:44:07] v: [05:44:46] parrot rage? or "^:" caret rage? [05:46:10] 03(mod) Enable $wgCrossSiteAJAXdomains for wikimedia sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20814 (10bawolff+wn) [05:52:36] 03(mod) Make categories take flagged revs into account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20813 (10bawolff+wn) [05:55:34] be so cool if someone got a job to redo this with a better editing system, espically the version diff'ing system http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/1126258 [06:00:42] Wikisource? [06:30:01] *charitwo looks at Natalie disgustedly [06:30:14] *Natalie takes a dump on charitwo's chest. [06:30:27] all these monikers won't hide you from the FBI [06:32:39] Our love knows no bounds. [06:37:31] A first chance exception of type 'System.IndexOutOfRangeException' occurred in OurLove.dll [07:00:55] http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=&page=User%3ACometneger Huh, are account locks logged now, or is this actually just a global block? [07:34:18] 03(mod) Wikisource: IPs unable to proofread - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20812 +comment (10joergens.mic) [08:06:11] 03ialex * r56938 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php: change $fname to __METHOD__ in Title::moveOverExistingRedirect() and Title::moveToNewTitle() [08:20:21] AryehGregor, GerardM-: fyi the character in questions works out of the box in windows 7 [08:20:45] Cool [08:20:58] that is a challenge to Linux then [08:27:28] what happens when a page includes a template which itself is including templates, when none are substed and when parameters are in use for the second group of templates ? i thought the first template was included as is, but there appearantly is some kind of a bug... [08:27:59] 03(mod) Wikisource: IPs unable to proofread - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20812 (10joergens.mic) [08:28:00] http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:TildeBot?action=purge#Suggestions_et_bugs this one includes http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:TildeBot/Suggestions?action=purge that one [08:36:24] Alphos: mediawiki will kill the loop after awhile [08:36:48] p858snake : what do you mean, "kill the loop" ? [08:36:53] all templates are different ;) [08:37:02] it's not a circular inclusion either [08:37:29] oh misread your thing [08:37:33] page A : {{B}} ; page B : {{C}} {{C}} [08:38:10] C has parser functions and parameters, which are set in B [08:38:35] so page B : {{C|1}} {{C|2}} (to be short) [08:38:55] yet the result on page A is different than on page B [08:39:06] on page B, i get a neat table, perfectly working [08:39:48] on page A, i just get all tds somehow "mixed", outside of the table ^^' [08:39:55] (in a

to be accurate) [08:41:14] nope, not even in a

[08:41:41] problem is, the templates on page B are correctly parsed, but they aren't on page A [08:42:42] (i mean the C templates) [08:43:13] oh [08:43:16] -_-" [08:43:25] C templates are ../ subtemplates [08:43:28] darn [08:44:19] relative paths = suck [08:44:32] unexportable, untranscludable [08:44:53] shoot me -_-" [08:45:13] becareful, because he has taken up on that offer before [08:45:15] nikerabbit, did you have the Login rewrite stuff running on TWN? [08:45:26] *Splarka ignores you like a french waiter [08:46:54] hm, on the other hand, rel2abs could work... [08:47:05] nah, let's be easy about it >_> [08:49:40] Happy-melon: yes? [08:49:48] did it work? [08:50:34] Happy-melon: at which point? [08:50:50] at the point just before brion pulled the whole thing last night :( [08:50:57] said it showed passwords in plaintext!?!? [08:51:35] dunno, I didn't use it [08:52:04] he also said the sessions didn't attach and so you couldn't stay logged in [08:52:12] I'd have thought twn people would have noticed that... [08:52:24] basically I have no idea what he's talking about... :( [08:56:18] ask him then? [08:57:33] 03ialex * r56939 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/EditPage.php skins/common/preview.js): [08:57:33] Fixes for live preview: [08:57:33] * (bug 3421) Live preview is now disabled on user CSS/JS subpages so that it doesn't break script/style previewing [08:57:33] * The "Live preview" button is now hidden by default rather than "Show preview", this will be switched by JavaScript to not confuse users with JavaScript disabled [08:57:34] * Pass wpEditToken, wpStarttime, wpEdittime in the request so that you don't get "Session lost" when $wgRawHtml is enabled [08:58:33] 03(FIXED) LivePreview breaks User CSS/JS previews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3421 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [08:59:35] Happy-melon: it didn't have type="password" on the for that last bit [09:00:07] nikerabbit: I will when he wakes up [09:00:38] splarka: say again? [09:00:44] where? [09:01:00] [21:55:35] wtf is the login page broken again? [09:01:01] [21:55:55] [09:01:01] [21:56:07] missing type attribute... and my session seems to be broken too [09:01:20] not having type="password" makes the password field show plain text when you type in it [09:01:26] instead of asterisks [09:01:42] that was last night? [09:01:53] http://toolserver.org/~amidaniel/chanlogs/%23mediawiki/20090925.txt [09:02:00] ta [09:02:14] wtf do I not get that on my checkout then...? [09:02:22] it was quite a while before he reverted it [09:02:29] dunno [09:03:00] *Splarka draws prospective face designs on happy-melon's outer skin in preparation for halloween ^_^ [09:03:38] I was installing Vista SP2... :( [09:03:58] I knew I had better things to do with my time than trying to security-patch windows :D [09:04:26] Is there any easy way to find out an edit's timestamp from an edit like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Ikip&diff=prev&oldid=316273270 [09:04:39] i mean from a url like this [09:05:26] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=revisions&rvprop=timestamp&revids=316273270 [09:05:58] splarka, I think this [09:06:07] the oldid parameter references revision IDs which are sequential (typically) and unique on a given wiki, but contain no particular information [09:06:07] is the 4th time you answered my question [09:06:15] you are awesome [09:06:17] you ask easy questions [09:06:24] :) [09:06:45] thank you again [09:06:48] rar [09:06:56] until the next eazy question :) [09:15:42] 14(DUP) The file logo on a file description page for documents (PDFs) is not linking to the file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17875 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [09:15:46] 03(mod) Regression - fullImageLink on image page for pdfs links to the image page, not the file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11264 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [09:15:54] rum: Splarka is our little question answering boy >.> [09:16:16] don't feed him food, he might try escape for freedom again [09:22:57] 03catrope * r56940 10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiEditPage.php: API: (bug 20816) Editing a page with &watchlist=preferences (default) unwatches it if you're watching it but don't have watching preferences set. This is a regression from r53266 [09:25:30] 03ialex * r56941 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/ImagePage.php): * (bug 11264) The file logo on a file description page for documents (PDF, ...) now links to the file rather than the file description page [09:26:00] 03(FIXED) Editing a page with API removes page from watchlist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20816 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [09:26:55] 03(FIXED) Regression - fullImageLink on image page for pdfs links to the image page, not the file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11264 +comment (10alex.emsenhuber) [09:30:59] 03(NEW) Autoresizing of link dialog doesn't work properly on Chrome - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20821 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (roan.kattouw) [09:48:09] 03siebrand * r56942 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (143 files): Partial revert of r56693 related to reverts in r56937: use old values for 'userlogin' [09:50:57] 03siebrand * r56943 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (50 files): Rebuild messages files to remove reverted addition of 'index-category' and 'noindex-category' in r56937 [09:51:56] siebrand: I have no idea why that __INDEX__ tracking was reverted [09:52:03] it's got nothing to do with the Login stuff [09:52:38] Happy-melon: well, I'm making things as consistent as possible again with the current code base, referencing the commits that did it. [09:53:22] I'm not saying don't do it, just don't burn it all :-D [09:53:24] Happy-melon: aside from that, I'm pretty annoyed with the login rewrite being of inferior quality according to brion, because it changed and reverted an over 250 times translated message twice. [09:53:50] :S [09:54:12] I just can't reproduce the issues he noticed [09:54:19] I'll have to grab him when he wakes up [09:54:40] Happy-melon: I recommend not committing it again before getting approval from Tim or Brion. [09:55:01] I guessed that might be a sensible approach :D [09:55:33] excellent [09:55:39] although like all branches, it'll just bitrot if it's not kept alive... :( [09:58:01] yep [09:58:21] Happy-melon: you can also choose to abandon it... [09:58:43] is that a hint? [09:58:47] why would I want to do that? [09:59:10] Happy-melon: not a hint, an option. There are always different ways to proceed. [10:00:46] 03(mod) Wikisource: IPs unable to flag articles as "proofread" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20812 summary; +comment (10thomasV1) [10:00:46] Happy-melon: You should at least be able to reproduce the password field not being a password field. Try toggling $wgHTML5 [10:02:56] RoanKattouw: nope [10:03:02] 03(mod) urls of the form wiki/article?curid=something should be indexable by robots on wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20818 +comment (10brian.mcneil) [10:03:18] maybe $wgWellFormedXML, or whatever it's called... [10:04:28] ah [10:04:36] it's $wgHtml5, not $wgHTML5 [10:04:39] and yes, got it now [10:06:15] that's an HTMLForm bug [10:11:11] 03siebrand * r56944 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (52 files): Partial revert of r56692 related to reverts in r56937: use old values for 'userlogin' [10:20:14] hi! Do you know an extension that highlights the heading you are going to? For example: If you klick on a link that links to "Page#1" you come to the heading that is named "1" (== 1 ==). And I'd like to color this heading you are going to. (Sorry for my English ;) ) [10:21:02] harmageddon: you can probably do that with CSS [10:21:03] :target in CSS [10:21:13] but I think the ID was moved to the H1 in 1.16 [10:21:46] 03(FIXED) Internal Links: Long page names are not displayed fully - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20606 +comment (10roan.kattouw) [10:22:08] is type="email" valid HTML4? [10:22:12] I don't think so...? [10:22:58] hmm, damn...

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[10:23:48] 03happy-melon * r56945 10/branches/happy-melon/phase3/ (415 files in 36 dirs): Update branch to r56937 [10:24:41] Splarka: Yes, the headings' ID is always the name of the heading [10:26:11] Harmageddon: well the problem is, that is 1.16's format [10:26:42] in 1.15 it is:

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