--- Log opened Wed Oct 21 00:00:04 2009 --- Day changed Wed Oct 21 2009 00:00 < wikibugs> (INVALID) Upload API error message - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21210 +comment (Bryan.TongMinh) 00:01 -!- Kaare is now known as KaareAway 00:01 -!- Bryan [n=launch@wikimedia-commons/Bryan] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]"] 00:03 < akozak> thanks Roan-meeting 00:07 -!- MaxSem [n=max@wikimedia/MaxSem] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:16 < Platonides> Revenant, don't forget about the images 00:18 < Revenant> I thought they were included in the SQL? 00:19 < Roan-meeting> Revenant: There are references to them in the SQL, but the image files themselves are in the images/ directory 00:19 < Revenant> Ahh. 00:19 -!- Dantman is now known as Dantman_onWires 00:19 -!- Dantman_onWires is now known as Dantman_onJava 00:21 -!- ITrace [n=justinst@216.81.188.2] has quit [Success] 00:21 * Revenant backs them up now, too 00:21 -!- tom_ [n=tom@c-98-247-109-94.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #mediawiki 00:21 < Roan-meeting> Generally, when in doubt, back it up 00:22 < Revenant> I'm somewhat tempted to go through and back up all of the pages by hand, but it's probably completely unneccesary 00:22 < Roan-meeting> As long as you back up the DB and the files you're fine 00:22 * Revenant nods 00:23 < tom_> We are currently using mediawiki to create "how to" documents for several tasks, and have migrated a lot of data over from old word documents. One thing that has been frustrating, however, is images. Does anyone know a good image tool for media wiki we can use to easily upload and manage screenshots so that it isn't so cumbersome? 00:23 < Revenant> I haven't actually moved a SQL database from place to place before. Should be a fun learning experience 00:23 < Viper550> you can use the category system on images too 00:23 < Roan-meeting> tom_: You can use maintenance/importImages.php to bulk-import images into MediaWiki 00:23 < Roan-meeting> And yes, you can categorize them, Commons does that too 00:25 -!- TodWulff|Work [i=TodWulff@unaffiliated/todwulff] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:25 -!- JC [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.13/2009073022]"] 00:25 < tom_> Roan-meeting: thanks.. That would definitely make things easier. 00:25 -!- Anubisss [i=Anubisss@ip-174-29-userpool.zeg.zelkanet.hu] has quit ["Haromfajta ember van. Aki tud szamolni es aki nem."] 00:27 -!- JeroenDeDauw [n=Admin@193.190.172.174] has quit ["Leaving."] 00:28 -!- Platonides [n=Platonid@wikipedia/Platonides] has quit [] 00:31 -!- devilg [n=devilgre@81.88.246.215] has joined #mediawiki 00:31 -!- tom_ [n=tom@c-98-247-109-94.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 00:32 < devilg> hi, i've other problem when install mediawiki 00:33 < devilg> Warning: chdir() [function.chdir]: No such file or directory (errno 2) in /adb/conk/index.php on line 817 00:34 < OverlordQ> index.php that ships with mediawiki is under 150 lines, so an error on 817 means that's probably not mediawiki related 00:34 < ^demon> OverlordQ: I think that's config/index.php 00:34 -!- jdpond [n=jdpond@mediawiki/jpond] has quit ["vehicle ransom time"] 00:34 < OverlordQ> ah 00:35 < devilg> yes,i've renamed config dir,because name config redirect me 00:35 < ^demon> Ah, so I was paying attention :) 00:35 -!- ITrace [n=justinst@75-167-120-64.desm.qwest.net] has joined #mediawiki 00:35 < ^demon> +1 for me 00:37 < OverlordQ> the chdir('..') line prolly 00:37 < ^demon> Duh ;-) 00:37 < devilg> Warning: fopen(../maintenance/tables.sql) [function.fopen]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in adb/includes/db/Database.php on line 2212 00:37 < devilg> Could not open "../maintenance/tables.sql". 00:37 -!- aude [n=chatzill@wikipedia/Aude] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]"] 00:38 < devilg> that's second error..all 2 errors appear when i click install button 00:38 < ^demon> Hmmm. 00:38 * OverlordQ beats ^demon with a large plush object 00:40 < ^demon> When I'm done with this project, I'm going to put up a demo so everyone can see the worst php app ever ('cept MediaWiki :) 00:41 < Roan-meeting> devilg: That could be due to you moving the config dir to the wrong place 00:41 < Roan-meeting> Try to move it back to where it belongs 00:41 -!- Melos [n=Melos@wikimedia/Melos] has joined #mediawiki 00:41 < ^demon> Roan-meeting: /config conflicted with some URL rewrite his host has. 00:42 < Roan-meeting> ^^ 00:42 < Roan-meeting> Then he should make a symlink to config instead 00:42 -!- ITrace [n=justinst@75-167-120-64.desm.qwest.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:42 < ^demon> Only if he has shell access. 00:42 < Roan-meeting> True 00:42 < ^demon> devilg: Do you have shell access? 00:43 < Roan-meeting> devilg: What exactly did you do? Did you just rename the config dir or did you also move it to a different place? 00:43 < OverlordQ> config is prolly whatever ghetto controlpanel they use 00:43 < Roan-meeting> Aye; but that means their rewrite rules are broken (stupid host) 00:43 * ^demon thinks OverlordQ is a ghetto controlpanel ;-) 00:44 < devilg> if config dir is not renamed,and i try acces to it,my server redirect me on admin acces panel from server 00:44 < devilg> i've renamed config in conk and it's works 00:44 -!- ^demon [i=4c7b38d9@mediawiki/demon] has left #mediawiki ["homework :("] 00:44 < devilg> but when i install these errors are showed to me 00:45 < Roan-meeting> Hm 00:45 < Roan-meeting> devilg: So do you have shell access? 00:45 < devilg> yes,i've 00:45 < Roan-meeting> Then could you try moving conk back to config and making conk a symlink to config instead? 00:46 < devilg> i dont's say the way to create it 00:46 < Roan-meeting> mv conk config 00:46 -!- JC [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has joined #mediawiki 00:47 < Roan-meeting> ln -s config conk 00:48 < devilg> ok, and? 00:50 < Roan-meeting> Those two commands are the commands that you should type in the shell to rename conk back to config and create a symlink 00:51 < devilg> yes,an when i've crated? 00:51 < Roan-meeting> You try the installer again 00:52 < devilg> ok,now i try 00:52 < devilg> thanks 00:55 < wikibugs> (mod) Search in yi: should ignore diacritics and identify ligatures - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18764 (rainman) 01:01 -!- Fflapjac [n=frederic@wikimedia/Microchip08] has quit ["Leaving."] 01:03 -!- sagaci [n=chatzill@124.187.183.147] has joined #mediawiki 01:07 < devilg> ok,it's work's,but don't visualize skin,only text.. 01:08 < Roan-meeting> devilg: The skin path may be configured wrong 01:08 < Roan-meeting> Can you link to your wiki? 01:08 -!- JC_ [n=JC@ool-4579f5b6.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #mediawiki 01:10 < devilg> i'm try to setting 01:10 -!- j^ [n=j@78.53.3.98] has quit [Read error: 148 (No route to host)] 01:11 < Betacommand> anyone familiar with google docs and graphs? 01:14 -!- sagaci [n=chatzill@124.187.183.147] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox-3.5 3.5.3/20090910172411]"] 01:16 -!- JC [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has quit [Connection timed out] 01:21 -!- brion [n=brion@wikipedia/Brion-VIBBER] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 01:24 -!- xbaez [n=xbaez@200.34.201.2] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:24 -!- rainman-sr [n=rainman@user-544522c7.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:24 < devilg> where i get access to config? 01:26 < Roan-meeting> !LocalSettings.php | devilg 01:26 < mwbot> devilg: I don't know anything about "localsettings.php". You might try: !config !enableapi !errors !extranamespace !javascript !js !logo !memory !newusergroup !subpages !tidyforidiots !uploads 01:26 < Roan-meeting> Gah 01:26 < Roan-meeting> !config | devilg 01:26 < mwbot> devilg: All configuration is done in LocalSettings.php (near the end of the file). Editing other files means modifying the software. Default settings are not in LocalSettings.php, you can look in DefaultSettings.php. See , , , and 01:27 < devilg> thanks 01:28 -!- flubub118 [n=Flubub@dslb-092-075-221-099.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de"] 01:28 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@dhcp-077-250-053-164.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:28 -!- brion [n=brion@216.38.133.254] has joined #mediawiki 01:29 -!- Jake_Wartenberg is now known as JW|AFK 01:32 -!- trev [n=trev@205.158.109.36.ptr.us.xo.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:33 -!- Mike||gone is now known as Mike_lifeguard 01:36 -!- orzel [n=orzel@2002:52e1:9a02:2:224:1dff:fe8f:c292] has joined #mediawiki 01:37 < orzel> hello. i have a mediawiki instance, that i believe is version 1.13.2 that displays a white page. It worked until it was moved to a new server. I've checked the db connection (works) and apache logs and can't find any reason why it doesn't work. 01:38 < orzel> can you suggest something to do now ? 01:38 -!- dungodung is now known as dungodung|sleep 01:38 < OverlordQ> !debug 01:38 < mwbot> For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . 01:38 < orzel> apache just says "GET /wiki/index.php/Main_Page HTTP/1.1" 200 01:38 < orzel> ah, this seems like a useful link :) 01:39 -!- BradLee [n=chatzill@CPE-121-219-177-21.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #mediawiki 01:40 -!- aude [n=chatzill@wikipedia/Aude] has joined #mediawiki 01:41 < orzel> erm.. i have added all stuff for error displaying and i still a white page (as in 'empty, even the source is empty) 01:41 -!- JC_ is now known as JC 01:41 < orzel> ah, if i add an echo 'asdf'; i have some error displayed now. weird it was not displayed without the echo. 01:43 < wikibugs> (DUP) Search & Replace: Number of replaces made is incorrect. - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21125 +comment (roan.kattouw) 01:43 < wikibugs> (mod) Table create in Sinhala link is not display row and column numbers correctly - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21135 (roan.kattouw) 01:44 -!- BradLee [n=chatzill@CPE-121-219-177-21.vic.bigpond.net.au] has left #mediawiki [] 01:44 -!- Revenant [n=trueabso@213.94.249.40] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 01:45 < wikibugs> (mod) Fatal error on prototype.wikimedia.org/deployment - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21198 BLOCKER->normal; summary (roan.kattouw) 01:45 -!- devilg [n=devilgre@81.88.246.215] has left #mediawiki [] 01:47 -!- RobH [n=RobH@216.38.133.254] has quit ["connect: com2 port is currently in use"] 01:48 -!- Dantman_onJava [n=dantman@wikia/dantman] has quit ["http://daniel.friesen.name or ELSE!"] 01:49 < orzel> OverlordQ: ok, thanks a lot for the link/hint, i've found the problem. Though i dont understand why i had to issue an 'echo', but that's probably just because i know nothing about php. 01:50 -!- atglenn [n=ariel@wiktionary/ArielGlenn] has quit ["Leaving."] 01:56 -!- brion [n=brion@wikipedia/Brion-VIBBER] has quit [] 02:00 < p858snake> someone should probably set up foriegnrepos on http://prototype.wikimedia.org/en.wikipedia.org/ for commons and en.wiki 02:04 -!- CityK [n=CityK@CPE0018f841d514-CM00195ed7396c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #MediaWiki 02:04 -!- putnik [n=putnik@83.234.74.4] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 02:06 < CityK> hi, I'm looking for a solution to moving images from one (media)wiki to another and preserving all user history and attributions 02:06 < CityK> however, it doesn't look, from my searches, that I'm in luck 02:06 < CityK> for example 02:07 < CityK> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/2009-March/030223.html 02:07 < CityK> So, my question is whether that information is still correct, and that one would need write their own script to accomplish what I seek 02:08 < CityK> or is there something I'm over looking? 02:08 < CityK> thanks 02:10 < p858snake> theres a script for it inthe maintance directly iirc 02:11 < Mike_lifeguard> when I do this I get the api help page O.o 02:11 < Mike_lifeguard> wget -q -O /dev/null --post-data="" "http://wiki.example.com/api.php?action=codeupdate&format=xml&repo=MyRepoName&rev=$2" & 02:12 < Mike_lifeguard> oh, no I don't 02:12 < Mike_lifeguard> well now I feel extra-stupid :D 02:12 < CityK> p858snake: hi, thanks for the reply ... sorry, I don't run the server side stuff, so I'm not familiar with the innards, but am I correct in assuming that you meant within the maintanece director? 02:12 < CityK> directory 02:14 < CityK> (checking http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:System_administration#Maintenance_scripts now) 02:15 -!- mdale [n=dale@pdpc/supporter/student/mdale] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:15 -!- stevekent [n=steveken@216.38.133.254] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 02:15 -!- Roan-meeting [n=chatzill@mediawiki/Catrope] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:16 -!- Roan-meeting [n=chatzill@216.38.133.254] has joined #mediawiki 02:17 -!- mdale [n=dale@pdpc/supporter/student/mdale] has joined #mediawiki 02:17 -!- brion [n=brion@wikipedia/Brion-VIBBER] has joined #mediawiki 02:17 -!- stevekent [n=steveken@216.38.133.254] has joined #mediawiki 02:19 < Mike_lifeguard> Seems odd that api.php?action=codeupdate needs *edit* permissions O_o 02:21 < CityK> p858snake: I think you must have been referring just to importimages ... but that doesn't preserve attributes 02:23 < CIA-81> dale * r57963 /trunk/phase3/js2/ (4 files in 3 dirs): * html5 file api drag drop file stubs 02:26 -!- mdale [n=dale@pdpc/supporter/student/mdale] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:26 -!- mdale1 [n=dale@216.38.133.254] has joined #mediawiki 02:27 -!- stevekent [n=steveken@216.38.133.254] has quit [] 02:30 -!- enomil` [n=enomil@wikimedia/Enomil] has joined #mediawiki 02:39 -!- robla [n=robla@ip65-47-28-158.z28-47-65.customer.algx.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:39 -!- robla [n=robla@ip65-47-28-158.z28-47-65.customer.algx.net] has joined #mediawiki 02:41 -!- Roan-meeting [n=chatzill@216.38.133.254] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:43 -!- Papertiger [i=tiger@e180066154.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #mediawiki 02:43 < CityK> got to go, but if anyone does happen to know of a script that is more robust than importimages (robust meaning that it preserves all attributes for the file from the original wiki) please provide suggestion - I'll check the channel log later. TIA 02:44 -!- CityK [n=CityK@CPE0018f841d514-CM00195ed7396c.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:45 -!- jMyles [n=justin@pool-96-238-98-169.pghkny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:50 -!- ikla [n=lbz@98.245.237.70] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:50 -!- avinoamr [n=avinoamr@91.198.254.100] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:50 -!- akozak [n=alex@adsl-71-134-235-231.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit ["outro"] 02:53 -!- crazed [n=cr4z3d@unaffiliated/cr4z3d] has joined #mediawiki 02:53 < crazed> hey, i'm trying to get short urls working with the cherokee web server. i have tried the preferred method (adding wgScriptPath, wgArticlePath, and wgUsePathInfo) 02:54 < crazed> this seems to redirect the urls correctly, but i get a page cannot be displayed error 02:54 -!- enomil [n=enomil@wikimedia/Enomil] has quit [Connection timed out] 02:54 < crazed> i notice there's an alias section that should be added for apache, is this necessary? 02:57 < crazed> looks imoprtant actually 02:57 -!- brion [n=brion@wikipedia/Brion-VIBBER] has quit ["awayyyy"] 02:57 -!- mdale1 [n=dale@216.38.133.254] has quit ["Leaving."] 02:59 -!- Papiertiger [i=tiger@e180067050.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 02:59 -!- AzaToth [n=azatoth@wikipedia/AzaToth] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:00 -!- tomaszf [n=tomaszf@216.38.133.254] has quit [] 03:06 -!- Betacommand [n=Betacomm@unaffiliated/betacommand] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:12 -!- qsheets_ [n=qsheets@wikimedia/qsheets] has joined #mediawiki 03:12 -!- qsheets_ [n=qsheets@wikimedia/qsheets] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:13 -!- Betacommand [n=Betacomm@unaffiliated/betacommand] has joined #mediawiki 03:27 -!- Raymond_afk [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has joined #mediawiki 03:28 -!- enomil [n=enomil@wikimedia/Enomil] has joined #mediawiki 03:30 -!- Neonexus [n=NeoNexus@89.204.185.165] has joined #mediawiki 03:30 < Neonexus> hi room, does anyone know how I can move the Categories at the bottom of the page to the top? 03:31 -!- robla [n=robla@ip65-47-28-158.z28-47-65.customer.algx.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 03:32 -!- Shown [n=Miranda@host159-68-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [] 03:34 -!- Raymond_ [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 03:34 -!- _s_k_y_ [n=Red@cpe-70-95-187-195.hawaii.res.rr.com] has left #mediawiki [] 03:37 < Mike_lifeguard> Neonexus: I'm not asleep :) 03:38 < OverlordQ> edit your skin? 03:38 < Mike_lifeguard> probably edit a copy so it doesn't get overwritten if you upgrade 03:38 < Mike_lifeguard> *WHEN you upgrade :P 03:38 < Neonexus> upgrade, whats that? 03:38 * Mike_lifeguard investigates how to keep backups... 03:39 < OverlordQ> encrypt it, start public ftp server, name it free_porn.avi and let the net archive it for you 03:40 < Mike_lifeguard> XD 03:41 < Mike_lifeguard> sadly, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_access#Replication doesn't talk at all about how to set up mysql replication 03:41 -!- Viper550 [i=Viper550@wikipedia/ViperSnake151] has left #mediawiki ["WE EXPECT YOU A NICE PLAY AGAIN"] 03:41 < flyingparchment> why would it? mysql comes with a manual 03:44 -!- Suiseiseki [i=desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has quit ["..."] 03:44 * Mike_lifeguard idly wonders why https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Logging_in#Logging_in_with_PuTTY exists 03:45 < flyingparchment> i didn't write it 03:46 < flyingparchment> but probably because technically competent users setting up replication are different from a typical TS user who doesn't even know what SSH is 03:46 -!- enomil` [n=enomil@wikimedia/Enomil] has quit [Connection timed out] 03:46 -!- enomil [n=enomil@wikimedia/Enomil] has quit ["( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.21 :: www.esnation.com )"] 03:47 < Neonexus> thanks OverlordQ, that was easy 03:47 < Mike_lifeguard> Everyone starts somewhere; I'm not sure convenience or simplicity should be scoffed at. 03:48 < flyingparchment> start with learning how to use mysql. then it's simple to set up replication for mediawiki 03:48 < flyingparchment> if you don't know how to use replication, you shouldn't be deploying it in production. 03:48 < Neonexus> thats you told @ mike 03:49 < Mike_lifeguard> I didn't understand that, Neonexus 03:51 < Neonexus> sorry its just a saying 03:54 -!- TodWulff|Work [n=TodWulff@unaffiliated/todwulff] has joined #mediawiki 03:54 -!- Suiseiseki [n=desudesu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has joined #mediawiki 03:55 -!- Dantman [n=dantman@d99-199-37-36.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #mediawiki 03:56 < wikibugs> (mod) Phase I usernames with underscores break the system. - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=323 (grahamwp) 03:57 -!- Neonexus [n=NeoNexus@89.204.185.165] has left #mediawiki [] 04:00 -!- Revenant [n=trueabso@213.94.249.40] has joined #mediawiki 04:04 -!- exercicios [i=bd6697e4@gateway/web/freenode/x-langpyrmetjxiakr] has joined #mediawiki 04:05 < exercicios> I installed mediawiki on two hosts, recaptcha fails with "could not open socket" in one, but works in the other??!?! is that a host fault or recaptcha fault? 04:12 < p858snake> someone should write a script for that bug to go though the database and either remove the invalid characters or change the chartacer to something else 04:14 -!- avinoamr [n=avinoamr@91.198.254.100] has joined #mediawiki 04:16 -!- qsheets_ [n=qsheets@wikimedia/qsheets] has joined #mediawiki 04:16 -!- qsheets_ [n=qsheets@wikimedia/qsheets] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:16 -!- Revenant [n=trueabso@213.94.249.40] has quit [] 04:18 -!- Cain` [n=Geek@unaffiliated/cain] has joined #MediaWiki 04:24 -!- anomie [n=brad@wikimedia/anomie] has joined #mediawiki 04:29 < exercicios> -_- will try something else, like a 2 + 2 = ? captcha 04:34 -!- Pathoschild [n=Jesse@wikimedia/Pathoschild] has joined #mediawiki 04:34 -!- Cain [n=Geek@unaffiliated/cain] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:34 -!- Cain` is now known as Cain 04:36 -!- fanno [n=Morten@90.184.93.233] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:37 -!- Pathoschild [n=Jesse@wikimedia/Pathoschild] has left #mediawiki ["*poof*"] 04:40 -!- Neurotiquette [n=youdaman@75.64.182.229] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 04:45 -!- exercicios [i=bd6697e4@gateway/web/freenode/x-langpyrmetjxiakr] has quit ["Page closed"] 04:46 -!- carl-m is now known as carl-m|away 04:46 < CIA-81> overlordq * r57964 /trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (postgres/compare_schemas.pl postgres/tables.sql tables.sql): 04:46 < CIA-81> Add missing columns to PG schemas 04:46 < CIA-81> Add exceptions to schema comparison script 04:46 < CIA-81> Alter SQL comments to appease said script 04:50 < CIA-81> overlordq * r57965 /trunk/phase3/maintenance/postgres/tables.sql: Followup to r57964, forgot to revert column change 05:03 -!- TodWulff|Work is now known as TodWulff 05:17 -!- [[sroracle]] [n=sroracle@unaffiliated/sroracle] has quit [Connection timed out] 05:19 -!- [[sroracle]] [n=sroracle@98.215.178.14] has joined #mediawiki 05:19 -!- [[sroracle]] [n=sroracle@unaffiliated/sroracle] has quit [Client Quit] 05:23 -!- TodWulff [n=TodWulff@unaffiliated/todwulff] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- It'll be on slashdot one day..."] 05:25 -!- robla [n=robla@c-76-104-247-13.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #mediawiki 05:26 -!- BradLee [n=chatzill@CPE-121-219-177-21.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #mediawiki 05:35 -!- mdale [n=dale@pdpc/supporter/student/mdale] has joined #mediawiki 05:43 -!- acat [n=acatheri@ip72-192-1-214.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #mediawiki 05:46 -!- BradLee [n=chatzill@CPE-121-219-177-21.vic.bigpond.net.au] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458]"] 05:53 -!- dpreacher [n=dpreache@117.204.129.186] has joined #mediawiki 05:54 -!- LauraHale [n=laurahal@adsl-99-144-230-190.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] 05:55 < wikibugs> (mod) urls of the form wiki/article?curid=something should be indexable by robots on wikinews - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20818 (Amgine.Saewyc) 05:55 < dpreacher> is it possible to enter xml on a wiki page that can be parsed by the browser rendering the page. If yes, then which mediawiki version is needed minimum. 05:55 < dpreacher> ? 05:59 -!- tomaszf [n=tomaszf@98.210.153.193] has joined #mediawiki 05:59 -!- anomie [n=brad@wikimedia/anomie] has quit ["..."] 06:08 -!- JC [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.13/2009073022]"] 06:09 -!- dpreacher2 [n=dpreache@117.204.130.139] has joined #mediawiki 06:09 -!- tomaszf [n=tomaszf@98.210.153.193] has quit [] 06:10 -!- dpreacher3 [n=dpreache@117.204.130.139] has joined #mediawiki 06:14 < dpreacher3> is it possible to enter xml on a wiki page that can be parsed by the browser rendering the page. If yes, then which mediawiki version is needed minimum.with some perl module perhaps? 06:16 -!- acat [n=acatheri@ip72-192-1-214.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ["Peace out."] 06:20 < wikibugs> (NEW) RSS feed for Wiktionary:Announcements - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21212 enhancement; Normal; Wiktionary tools: General; (hippytrail) 06:21 < opticron> dpreacher3, how would the browser parse raw xml? 06:21 < opticron> web browsers are generally html based 06:22 < dpreacher3> opticron...hmm that is also there. but there are pages that are written in xml and rendered by browser. what i'd need is some parser on mediawiki server that translates the xml on the wiki page into code that is renderable by the browser 06:22 < dpreacher3> it might need a xsl as well 06:24 < opticron> i'm not sure you can directly embed xml/xsl into a html page, but mediawiki extensions can register tag hooks 06:27 < dpreacher3> register tag hooks means? 06:27 -!- dpreacher [n=dpreache@117.204.129.186] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:27 -!- dpreacher3 is now known as dpreacher 06:29 -!- dpreacher2 [n=dpreache@117.204.130.139] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 06:32 < Amgine> can be processed by an extension script which is written to handle it. 06:32 < opticron> dpreacher, it means you can create an extension that will register a hook like 
 and you can capture text inside it
06:32 < Amgine> It does so using the extension hooks.
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06:36 < dpreacher> Amgine is there such an extension already?
06:37 < Amgine>  It was an example. There are many extension tags already. Try reading about extensions at http://www.mediawiki.org
06:38 < Amgine> It does appear there may be one or two XML extensions already, yes.
06:40 < opticron> dpreacher, what is it you want to do with xml, anyway?
06:40 < opticron> you haven't really told us your end goal
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06:50 < wikibugs> (CLOSED) Some of pages gives a Parse error at the time of page edit - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21151  +comment (wikibugs)
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07:25 < CIA-81> overlordq * r57966 /trunk/phase3/maintenance/updaters.inc: One more to r57964, forgot to apply update to updaters.inc
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07:34 < wikibugs> (mod) Header levels change when only equal signs are left in the TOC - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21177  (wikibugs)
07:35 < wikibugs> (REOPENED) Header levels change when only equal signs are left in the TOC - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21177  +comment (wikibugs)
07:36 < CIA-81> overlordq * r57967 /trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialActiveusers.php: Fix Special:ActiveUsers for PG, double-quotes are used to delimit identifiers not strings
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07:42 < wikibugs> (REOPENED) Search icon shall be triggered when 'Enter' button is pressed. - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21202  +comment (wikibugs)
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07:53 < guillom> aude, thanks for the grammar fixes :)
07:54 < aude> happy to help
07:54 < guillom> :)
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08:17 < wikibugs> (NEW) logo for ace wikipedia - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21213 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (Gerard.meijssen)
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09:06 < wikibugs> (NEW) Enable AbuseFilter on Lithuanian Wiktionary. - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21214 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (vpovilaitis)
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09:09 < wikibugs> (NEW) NoLocalSettings.php sometimes fails to display the MW logo - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21215 trivial; Normal; MediaWiki: Installation; (maxsem.wiki)
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09:22 < ivh_> Good morning. Is there a good resource somewhere that collects open-source skins for MediaWiki?
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09:24 < MaxSem> mediawiki.org
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09:26 < wikibugs> (mod) Wrong processing of the apostrophe by the search engine in Ukrainian - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21002  (yevhen)
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09:31 < ivh_> MaxSem: Thanks, just found the Gallery_of_user_styles. It was not easy to get to from the front page, however. (This is not meant as a complaint, but constructive user feedback ;) )
09:33 < MaxSem> there's search for that
09:36 < ivh_> Well, yes, unforunately there are many synonyms. skin, layout, template, theme etc. One has to know it's called in MediaWiki before being able to use the search. Anyway - no need to get too deep into this. :)
09:37 < MaxSem> sigh
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09:39 < wikibugs> (NEW) To a wiki page Link : When link text is a space link is not visible at preview - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21216 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (wikibugs)
09:39 < wikibugs> (NEW) To an external web page Link : line break is not functioning in preview - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21217 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (wikibugs)
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09:57 < MaxSem> ivh_, I made a couple redirects to simplify search
09:59 < p858snake> and for people in here we have
09:59 < p858snake> !skins
09:59 < mwbot> Overview: . Skin usage: . Gallery of CSS styles: . Writing your own: 
09:59 < wikibugs> (NEW) Using the move page UI you can create a page name containing +, not %2B - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21218 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (T.J.Hunt)
10:03 < ivh_> great, thanks.
10:09 < wikibugs> (NEW) Cannot undo text changes when going back after preview - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21219 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (tbertels+bugzilla)
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10:18 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Remove deprecated akeytt() - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20847  +comment (siebrand)
10:18 < wikibugs> (mod) LocalisationCache Notice - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20837  +comment (siebrand)
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10:34 < wikibugs> (mod) Cannot undo text changes when going back after preview - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21219  (tbertels+bugzilla)
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10:40 < mirco> Hi all, could one of you give some hints on image integration
10:40 < werdna> !images
10:40 < mwbot> For instructions to use images in MediaWiki, see . For more technical details about image uploads, see  and . Note that uploads are disabled per default (see !uploads).
10:40 < mirco> !images
10:40 < mwbot> For instructions to use images in MediaWiki, see . For more technical details about image uploads, see  and . Note that uploads are disabled per default (see !uploads).
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10:41 < mirco> werdna: thank you!
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10:45 < CIA-81> ialex * r57969 /trunk/phase3/Makefile: removed "make maint" since t/maint was removed in r54908.
10:45 < mirco> werdna: My Prob seems to be a bit more complex: In preview I can see uploaded images, but not on the live-page!!!
10:46 < werdna> odd
10:46 < werdna> what do you see on the live page?
10:46 < p858snake> is it a public wiki that you can show us?
10:47 < mirco> nothing when I use Camino, if I use Safari I see the placeholder for broken links ...
10:48 < mirco> p858snake: No It's not public but I think I could portforward it for a while..
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10:52 < mirco> Here's my setup for images :$wgEnableUploads       = true;
10:52 < mirco> $wgFileExtensions = array_merge( $wgFileExtensions, array( 'pdf', 'png', 'jpg' ) );
11:00 < wikibugs> (REOPENED) Images on the secure connection to OTRS wiki - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18475  +comment (lastword)
11:01 < wikibugs> (NEW) Opera/IE : Not copy the highlighted value to Page Title - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21220 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (wikibugs)
11:07 < mirco> Firefox does the same... just showing nothin, try's to load the image signs a frame but then closes the frame... And yes the image is on the server!
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11:16 < Alphos> mirco : try to get images url
11:17 < Alphos> i'm guessing there's something faulty in it
11:17 < mirco> http://wiki.xxx.de/wiki/index.php/Bild:Kalender.jpg
11:18 < Alphos> no, i meant the url as shown in the page sourcecode
11:18 < Alphos> (where they are missing)
11:18 < mirco> xxx is just a placeholder... Upps ... ;-)
11:18 < Alphos> (or not showing, to be accurate)
11:19 < Alphos> mirco i didn't mean the url for the page with the image description, but the url of the actual file ;)
11:19 < mirco> Termine im Kalender eintragen
11:19 < Alphos> i'm guessing that's the source of your problem :)
11:19 < mirco> images/thumb/b/b6/Kalender.jpg
11:19 < wikibugs> (mod) AbuseFilter warning page should display original page text - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17822  lowest->normal; +comment (waldir)
11:20 < mirco> On the real path: /var/www/wiki/images/b/b6/
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11:21 < mirco> or: /var/www/wiki/images/thumb/b/b6/Kalender.jpg/180px-Kalender.jpg
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11:22 < mirco> If I enter this http://wiki.xxx.de/wiki/images/thumb/b/b6/Kalender.jpg/180px-Kalender.jpg in my Browser I see the image in Camino!
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11:23 < Alphos> and with http://wiki.xxx.de/images/thumb/b/b6/Kalender.jpg/180px-Kalender.jpg ?
11:24 < Alphos> oh wait
11:24 < Alphos> i'm guessing it's trying to search for http://wiki.xxx.de/wiki/index.php/images/thumb/b/b6/Kalender.jpg/180px-Kalender.jpg
11:24 < Alphos> (which of course doesn't exist :p )
11:26 < wikibugs> (CLOSED) Search & Replace: Number of replaces made is incorrect. - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21125  +comment (wikibugs)
11:28 < wikibugs> (mod) Table create in Sinhala link is not display row and column numbers correctly - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21135  (wikibugs)
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11:36 < wikibugs> (mod) Spam blacklist match should show error above edit box - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9416  +comment (waldir)
11:38 < mirco> Alphos: with the first one I get a 404, the second shows the wiki telling me that the page doesn't exist...
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11:45 < AryehGregor> Ugh, how are we supposed to improve usability if enwiki admins persistently add mounds of useless garbage everywhere like this?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Fancycaptcha-createaccount
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11:55 < MaxSem> invalid chars in username and password strength checks could be done with JS
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11:55 < MaxSem> email explanations could be made shorter and positioned near its input field
11:56 < MaxSem> username policy cruft could be shortened too
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12:27 < AryehGregor> Invalid chars in username can be done with HTML5!  :)
12:28 < AryehGregor> The entire message could be replaced with like two lines.
12:28 < AryehGregor> A link to relevant pages in case anyone cares.
12:28 < AryehGregor> Which they don't.
12:28 < AryehGregor> If they do something that doesn't work, they'll get an error message and figure it out.
12:29 < AryehGregor> There's no point in telling the user about machine-checkable requirements up front.  Let them do what they want and stop them only if they do something bad.
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12:50 < fredl> hello all. How can I disallow edits from the internet but allow them from my LAN?
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12:54 < AndyZee> hi :)
12:54 < LauraHale> Hello.
12:55 < heldergeovane> Hello! Is it possible to create a wikipage using a string stored in a javascript variable?
12:56 < Bryan> yes, post an xmlhttprequest to api.php?action=edit
12:57 < AndyZee> Is it possible to create a page, that lists all pages, that contains some namespace (for ex. with #ask query, etc.)?
12:58 < fredl> hello all. How can I disallow edits from the internet but allow them from my LAN?
12:58 < AndyZee> oO
13:00 < heldergeovane> Thank you Bryan, I will take a look at the api documentation... Do you know any script using this at Wikimedia projects? (so I could loot at them as examples... ;-) )
13:01 < Bryan> there are some scripts, but I don't know which ones
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13:02 < heldergeovane> humm... ok then...
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13:05 < AndyZee> Bryan?
13:06 < Bryan> yes?
13:06 < mirco> Alphos: Any hints how to solve this wrong path generation prob?
13:07 < Alphos> none at the moment
13:07 < fredl> is that an unusual question to want to stop people to update your wiki from the internet??
13:08 < fredl> or am I asking for something so trivial that you don't even want to answer?
13:08 < AndyZee> fredl, i guess restrict all IPs and permit only local
13:09 < fredl> ok.. googled for mediawiki restrict ip
13:09 < AndyZee> fredl http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_editing_for_certain_IP_ranges
13:10 < fredl> and found that page :) thanks Andy, I'll first read it to see if I understand it.
13:10 < Bryan> there is no such thing; you'll have to write an extension
13:10 < AndyZee> Bryan, this answer was for me?
13:11 < Bryan> no for fredl 
13:11 < Bryan> but I think it applies to your question as well
13:12 < fredl> Bryan, Hmmm. The only way to do this at present without modifying the code is to go to Special:Blockip and systematically block every one of the 65,536 CIDR Class B ranges that you don't want to be able to edit. 
13:12 < fredl> that's why?
13:12 < Bryan> yeah
13:12 < Bryan> you could maybe use  
13:12 < Bryan> and devise a regex that covers all but your local ips
13:13 < fredl> wow, didn't realize that this would be such an unusual request. thanks Bryan I'll check into it.
13:13 < AndyZee> Bryan, will it be a good idea to automatically assign all pages created in this namespace to some category and just list the category?
13:14 < AndyZee> sorry for my english :(
13:15 < p858snake> theres a gadget on en.wiki for blocking based on CIDR ranges
13:19 < AndyZee> another question anyway then.. maybe it's too trivial, but.. Is there a way to automatically add signatures to a new post in discussions (talks) for each user?
13:20 < Alphos> AndyZee, two answers :
13:20 < fredl> Bryan - are you familiar with the regexBlock plugin?
13:20 < Alphos> 1) Extension:LiquidThreads
13:20 < Alphos> 2) a bot
13:21 < AndyZee> Alphos thanks a lot
13:21 < Alphos> you're welcome :)
13:21 < Bryan> fredl: no
13:23 < fredl> ah okay. Do you know if the wgDBprefix will be added to tablenames for every plugin?
13:24 < fredl> coz there's a sql script to create a few tables for the plugin but it obviously doesn't have the wgDBprefix in it, wondering if I should add it manually
13:25 < fredl> guess I'll just give that a try.
13:26 < fredl> oh... oops, should read better I guess. never heard of wgSharedDB before
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13:29 < fredl> I don't quite get it...
13:37 < fredl> okay got that plugin activated now....
13:37 < fredl> Bryan - would you please help me to make such a regexp?
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13:39 < Bryan> something like (?!10\.0\.0\.[0-9]{1,3}) but i'm not very good at regexes
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13:41 < fredl> in my case probably something like (?!192\.168\.1\.[0-9]{1,3}) I guess?
13:42 < Bryan> yes
13:42 < fredl> okay, added that. Would you please try and see if you can edit on http://wiki.3dn.nl ?
13:42 < CIA-81> ialex * r57971 /trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/HTMLFileCache.php): 
13:42 < CIA-81> * (bug 21161) Changing $wgCaCacheEpoch now always invalidates file cache
13:42 < CIA-81> Based on a patch by Platonides - http://bug-attachment.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=6678
13:42 < Bryan> I still can
13:42 < fredl> Hmm.
13:44 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Uploading LocalSettings.php does not always invalidate the file cache - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21161  +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
13:44 < fredl> ugh, it's a regexp block alright....
13:45 < fredl> *grin* but I only want to disable edits, not all access :P
13:45 < fredl> I just blocked myself :)
13:45 < fredl> oh okay I can still view...
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13:49 < wikibugs> (mod) Mediawiki:Sidebar ignores html comment markups - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21146  minor->enhancement; +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
13:50 < fredl> Bryan, would you try again if you can edit please?
13:50 < wikibugs> (mod) Mediawiki:Sidebar ignores html comment markups - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21146  (alex.emsenhuber)
13:50 < Bryan> http://wiki.3dn.nl/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=8298&oldid=7434
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13:51 < fredl> hmm. regexp's remain tricky :) 
13:53 < fredl> if I simply enter my own IP address it works fine....
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13:59 < kevwilde> Can i disable images linking to their description page?
14:00 < fredl> the guy could have really included some examples on his plugin page...
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14:04 < Raymond_> kevwilde: in general or for single images?
14:04 < kevwilde> in general
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14:07 < kevindanko> Anyone know of an extension to hide the namespace from the page title?
14:07 < kevindanko> or some sort of hack
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14:14 < kevwilde> Raymond_: in general, if possible
14:14 < Raymond_> kevwilde: uhhhh... not that I know :(
14:16 < kevwilde> Raymond_: and individually?
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14:17 < Raymond_> kevwilde: with [[Image:name.jpg|thumb|link=|caption]] if you use the current stable release 1.15.x
14:17 < Raymond_> kevwilde: see the "link="
14:17 < Raymond_> this disables the link to the image desc page
14:17 < kevwilde> thanks
14:18 < kevwilde> how could i hack this out of wikipedia?
14:19 < kevindanko> Any way to edit the display via css show namespace doesnt show?
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14:21 < MaxSem> whee, I poked the holy cow of MediaWiki!
14:22 < Raymond_> what do you mean with "hack it out of wikipedia"?
14:22 < kevwilde> edit the mediawiki source, sorry i meant MW instead of wikipedia
14:24 < Raymond_> no idea offhand
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14:28 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Database::estimateRowCount broken for SQLite - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20268  +comment (maxsem.wiki)
14:29 < kevindanko> Im really up against it,  trying to get this last change for my wiki so i can release it.  If anyone can please let me know how to hide namespace from page title please let me know!
14:29 < kevindanko> Thanks in advance.
14:30 < wikibugs> (mod) LocalisationCache Notice - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20837  (Platonides)
14:31 < wikibugs> (mod) LocalisationCache Notice - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20837  (Platonides)
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14:37 < fredl> Bryan, you're not going to believe this...
14:38 < Bryan> hm?
14:38 < fredl> Bryan, that regexp is kind of trickier than you want to know :)
14:38 < fredl> \b(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?([0]|[2-9])[0-9]?)\.(25[0-5]|2[0-4][0-9]|[01]?[0-9][0-9]?)\b
14:38 < fredl> I have not a friggen CLUE why it works but it works.
14:38 < fredl> try editting wiki.3dn.nl now
14:38 < Bryan> hehehe
14:39 < fredl> some #php oracle told me that one.
14:39 < Bryan> The block was made by WikiSysop. The reason given is No edits allowed from outside the LAN. 
14:39 < fredl> yup. nice eh? :)
14:39 < Bryan> awesome
14:39 < fredl> thanks for helping me with it dude :)
14:39 < fredl> ciao!
14:40 < kevindanko> Okay, so i found a code that sort of works, it hides specified namespaces from Page Title for users who arent logged in, is there a way to edit this for users who are logged in as well?
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14:40 < guillom> fredl, may I suggest that you document your success on mediawiki.org ?
14:40 < guillom> dammit
14:40 < kevindanko> http://pastebin.com/m508fb12c  that is the code i need to modify
14:40 < kevindanko> can anyone please help?
14:43 < kevindanko> or atleast tell me how to put this into an array if (strpos($text, 'File:')!== false) {
14:43 < kevindanko> i.e.  File, Category, Talk
14:45 < Bryan> kevindanko: try this: http://pastebin.com/m1e22f772
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14:45 < Bryan> there should be a page on mw.org "frequently requested hacks"
14:45 < Bryan> because this is one of those
14:47 < kevindanko> Bryan that is along the lines of what im looking for,  Im trying to be able to define which namespaces  via an array though
14:48 < kevindanko> i dont want them gone for all but just for some 
14:48 < wikibugs> (DUP) configuration script does not allow setting database schema - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21207  +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
14:48 < wikibugs> (mod) Setting a new schema for postgres doesn't work - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21030  +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
14:49 < Bryan> kevindanko: http://pastebin.com/m437b6bb6
14:49 < Bryan> add an extra closing parenthese at the end of the if line; forgot one
14:50 < kevindanko> Works great!
14:50 < kevindanko> Thanks Bryan.
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15:41 < kevindanko> Is it possible to automatically add new pages to a specific category?
15:43 < kevindanko> or rather add all pages in a certain namespace to a category?
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15:47 < kevindanko> So if I create a page titled GoPhillies in the main namespace it automatically is in the New Page category  however if I create a page titled File:GoPhillies it doesn't display in this category.
15:48 < kevindanko> I realize i can do the organization via DPL however I need a way to automatically append a category to new pages.
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15:55 < Platonids> you know about Special:NewPages, do you?
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15:56 < kevindanko> yes
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16:01 < Brownout> can I configure the search bar to look in multiple namespaces by default without lucene?
16:04 < Platonides> yes
16:04 < Brownout> found it $wgNamespacesToBeSearchedDefault
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16:58 < kevindanko> hmm..so im using two extensions DisplayTitle and DPL
16:59 < kevindanko> is it possible to have my pages display in dpl  using their displaytitle?
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17:01 < CIA-81> daniel * r57975 /trunk/WikiWord/WikiWordBuilder/src/main/java/de/brightbyte/wikiword/store/builder/DatabaseGlobalConceptStoreBuilder.java: force index
17:02 < Duesentrieb> kevindanko: no, because the display title is not stored in the page record in the database
17:02 < Duesentrieb> i suppose DPL could be hacked to parse each page and extract the title, but that would be very slow
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17:03 < CIA-81> daniel * r57976 /trunk/WikiWord/WikiWordBuilder/ (4 files in 4 dirs): name map
17:05 < werdna> Duesentrieb: or you could add it to the db
17:06 < Bryan> something nice to be stored in page_props?
17:06 < Duesentrieb> werdna: yes, in theory. hm... isn't there an extra table for page propertiesss
17:06 < Duesentrieb> ?
17:06 < Duesentrieb> oh yea, what Bryan said :)
17:06 < werdna> Duesentrieb: yess
17:07 < Duesentrieb> :P
17:07 < werdna> ssee, I know that ss meanss ss now.
17:07  * werdna iss a ssnake
17:08 < Bryan> where is it on your keyboard?
17:08 < HeimdallAustria> through wgTitle i can access the name of the current page with  javascript code written to common.js...is there a similar variable to get the username viewing a page at the moment ? 
17:08 < Bryan> found it
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17:08 < werdna> Bryan: alt-s
17:08 < Bryan> wgUssername
17:09 < Bryan> wgUsserName
17:09 < werdna> although I have to copy and passte into irssi becausse it'ss ussed for ssomething elsse
17:09 < Nikerabbit> ialex: did you fix CaCache already?
17:09 < Bryan> awesssome :D
17:10 < ialex> Nikerabbit: hmm?
17:10 < Nikerabbit> * (bug 21161) Changing $wgCaCacheEpoch now always invalidates file cache
17:10  * werdna massacress Duessentrieb'ss language.
17:10 < ialex> o_O
17:11 < kevindanko>   any idea where i need to start
17:11 < Nikerabbit> good thing werdna hasn't found "a"oa yet
17:11 < HeimdallAustria> Bryan : workß , thankß
17:11 < Nikerabbit> ialex: or is it really spelled like that?
17:11 < Bryan> there iss a lot of cool stuff under your alt
17:11 < kevindanko> Currently i have DPL showing me my pages in category view, however it is organizing them using the namespace title
17:11 < ialex> Nikerabbit: that's an error :)
17:11 < kevindanko> so all pages are alphabitized under the first letter of the namespace rather then the first letter of the page title
17:11  * ialex fixes
17:11 < ialex> 
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17:14 < CIA-81> ialex * r57977 /trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Fix typo from r57971, thanks Nikerabbit
17:14 < Nikerabbit> thanks ialex!!1one
17:14 < ialex> o_O
17:14 < ialex> :)
17:15 < Nikerabbit> are you thankin me for wasting my time reading mediawiki svn commit messages while I'm supposed to do something else! :o
17:15 < kevindanko> heres a screenshot
17:15 < kevindanko> http://i33.tinypic.com/34fjyp0.png
17:15 < kevindanko> the category these pages are in is called Article,  so the titles are actually Article:Camilla for example.
17:15 < werdna> Oh ha^i \u222bh`ere Nikerabbit 
17:15 < kevindanko> i want them alphabitized pased on page name
17:16 < Nikerabbit> werdna: do you want me to pronounce that? it sounds quite stupid
17:16 < werdna> L"ol F^inn^ish
17:16 < werdna> Nikerabbit: do go ahead
17:16 < Nikerabbit> yeah, it is just that irc is textual medium
17:16 < werdna> well, convert it into english letters
17:17 < werdna> Lool F-igh-n-igh-sh
17:17 < Nikerabbit> it can't be expressed in a way uneducated English person would be able to pronounce it quite accurately :o
17:17 < werdna> well, go ahead and try, mr. fancy :P
17:18 < Nikerabbit> how about you learn cyrillic alphabet... and if it is fun continue with Chinese
17:18 < werdna> I think one is slightly easier than the other
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17:24 < Nikerabbit> werdna: might be
17:26 < kevindanko> hmm anyone have any idea how i can accomplish this?
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17:28 < werdna> kevindanko: you can modify the sort order of pages in a category by giving a custom sort key to each member page, with the syntax [[Category:Foo|Whatever]]
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17:29 < kevindanko> werdna: do i have to manually append this to every page?
17:29 < werdna> yes
17:29 < kevindanko> any idea how i can automate this?
17:29 < werdna> [[Category:My category name|My custom sortkey]]
17:29 < werdna> is that what you're after?
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17:30 < kevindanko> Well i have all pages in a category displaying on a normal page using DPL  DPL in category mode
17:30 < kevindanko> it displays the pages alphabetically by first letter
17:30 < kevindanko> which in this case is the namespace letter.
17:30 < mirco> Anyone a hint how I can solve my problem with the generation of wrong URLs in my setup?
17:32 < kevindanko> i mean ideally i'd like to figure out how i can make this work by telling DPL not to get page titles based on namespace
17:32 < werdna> oh, that's something else
17:32 < werdna> that's DPL being stupid
17:32 < werdna> file a DPL bug
17:32 < kevindanko> okay
17:34  * MaxSem sinisterly brews his deadly commit of 30 files... poor reviewers
17:34 < werdna> kevindanko: although perhaps DPL has an option
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17:37 < kevindanko> really?
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17:55 < exercicios> upgraded to lastest confirmedit dev version, still, recaptcha prevents new registrations "coult no open socket"
17:55 < kevindanko> err there are just so many options i cannot seem to figure it out
17:57 < exercicios> I'm thinking about replacing recaptcha with a single question. Some question like "The book is on the table" What is the 5th word in that phrase?
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18:09 < wikibugs> (NEW) Namespaces displaying in Categorgy Mode instead of Page Title - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21221 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: DynamicPageList; (kevindank)
18:09 < wikibugs> (mod) Namespaces displaying in Categorgy Mode instead of Page Title - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21221  (kevindank)
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18:09 < exercicios> phpinfo doesn't display anything that resembles fsocketopen
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18:15 < wikibugs> (NEW) Free  tag if not using it - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21222 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (Platonides)
18:15 < exercicios> -_-
18:16 < exercicios> confirmedit comes with simple text match captch by default
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18:17 < wikibugs> (mod) Free  tag if not using it - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21222  (Platonides)
18:17 < Platonides> exercicios, there's an extension to do that kind of questions
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18:20 < wikibugs> (mod) To an external web page Link : line break is not functioning in preview - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21217  (roan.kattouw)
18:21 < exercicios> confirmedit extension
18:21 < exercicios> confirmedit fancy addon?
18:23 < Platonides> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:QuestyCaptcha
18:23 < wikibugs> (mod) Cannot undo text changes when going back after preview - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21219  +comment (roan.kattouw)
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18:25 < exercicios> well, agree with that captcha's description. It doesn't require image rendering
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18:39 < CIA-81> catrope * r57978 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ClickTracking/ClickTracking.hooks.php: ClickTracking: Per bug 21219, don't include ClickTracking.js and usability JS on every page (just yet)
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18:54 < CIA-81> catrope * r57979 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ClickTracking/ (ClickTracking.hooks.php ClickTracking.php): ClickTracking: Add style version variable
18:56 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Cannot undo text changes when going back after preview - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21219  +comment (roan.kattouw)
18:56 < wikibugs> (REOPENED) Cannot undo text changes when going back after preview - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21219  (roan.kattouw)
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19:17 < exercicio> :P confirmedit snapshot already comes with all captchas in one
19:18 < exercicio> $wgCaptchaQuestions[] = array( 'question' => "A question?", 'answer' => "An answer!" ); For multiple questions add multiple lines ? 
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19:25 < RoanKattouw> Yes
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19:27 < exercicio> can one question has two answers?
19:28 < RoanKattouw> Apparently not
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19:28 < exercicio> uhm, it's canse insensitive. Answer is "Word", but it did accept "word"
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19:30 < exercicio> but not accent insensitive. 'e'a'i is different from eai
19:31 < Nikerabbit> exercicio: as it should
19:31 < wikibugs> (NEW) Common watchlists - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21223 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki Feature Request: Feature_Request; (cenarium.sysop)
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19:36 < CIA-81> * Export the return value of wfUrlProtocols() to JS for use in the EditToolbar extension
19:36 < CIA-81> * Also cache this value (in a static var for now, maybe put it in memcached?): when parsing pages with many external links, we'd end up calling implode() once and preg_quote() 11 times for every link
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19:52 < CIA-81> yaron * r57981 /trunk/extensions/SemanticDrilldown/README: Added David Loomer as co-author
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20:00 < CIA-81> yaron * r57984 /trunk/extensions/SemanticDrilldown/ (INSTALL includes/SD_GlobalFunctions.php): New version: 0.6.1
20:00 < X__> hi. i want to install the fckeditor, but how can i set the ajax "true" in the mediawiki version 1.6.12?
20:01 < X__> i find nothing in the localsettings.php
20:01 < X__> i mean this: $wgUseAjax
20:01 < wikibugs> (NEW) Version 0.4 dump file XML schema not published in stated location - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21224 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (triddle)
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20:27 < Luminette> Anyone have a few minutes to help a newb with getting our sites usual header to keep existing on our wiki?
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20:38 < Sas1> I hate that border on file history tables. What's the best way to hide/eliminate it?
20:38 < luser1> Hi. I'm trying to replicate the discussion system found here: luser1 http://shifthappens.wikispaces.com/message/list/home on my mediawiki site. I've had a look at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Discussion_and_forum_extensions But none of them replicate the experience. AWC's forum is over kill and LiquidThreads is too verbose. Any suggestions
20:45 < CIA-81> catrope * r57986 /trunk/phase3/includes/ (DefaultSettings.php api/ApiOpenSearch.php): 
20:45 < CIA-81> Split allowing &suggest requests in API opensearch from $wgEnableMWSuggest to a
20:45 < CIA-81> separate variable. This makes it possible to enable SimpleSearch (which uses API
20:45 < CIA-81> opensearch) but disable mwsuggest; enabling both seems to cause issues with the
20:45 < CIA-81> login form in Safari or Opera (don't remember which)
20:45 < CIA-81> catrope * r57987 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/SimpleSearch/SimpleSearch.php: Update SimpleSearch docs for r57986
20:46 < RoanKattouw> luser1: I think that's another wiki engine, not MediaWiki running on that site
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20:47 < luser1> RoanKattouw: yeah I know, it looks like whatever they're using is copyrighted and custom. I like it. Wondering if a clone exists for MediaWiki that I can install.
20:47 < RoanKattouw> If you want a nice discussion system, LiquidThreads is probably the most stable option; Wikipedia is gonna use it at some point
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20:48 < RoanKattouw> You alluded to not liking LQT, so there's other discussion extensions out there, but they might not be well-maintained
20:48 < Nikerabbit> hi RoanKattouw 
20:49 < Sas1> Anyone see me?
20:49 < RoanKattouw> Hi Nike
20:49 < RoanKattouw> Sas1: With some CSS magic. I'd help you right now if I didn't have a flight to cath
20:50 < Sas1> just wondered what the parameter was... nothing I've tried works
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20:51 < RoanKattouw> Sas1: Try table.toccolours { border: none; } in your user CSS
20:51 < Sas1> ah, ok... have a safe flight
20:51 < RoanKattouw> (that'd be User:Yourname/monobook.css or /vector.css)
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20:54 < Sas1> That doesn't do it. Jeez, it's always the simplest things.
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21:06 < Luminette> anyone have a link to a resource to help with figuring out how to keep our usual page header (the banner and horizontal nav bar directly under it on www.starcraftmethod.com) to appear at the top of our wiki?
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21:13 < wikibugs> (NEW) ProofreadPage: special buttons are missing when using enhanced editing toolbar - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21225 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: ProofreadPage; (ThomasBleher)
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21:23 < NivFreak> so if I wanted to empty a page of it's contents at render time, is there a reasonably straight forward place to do that?
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21:25 < wikibugs> (NEW) Make Navigable TOC collapsible - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21226 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (ThomasBleher)
21:26 < tpocra> I'm trying to install the Halo extension for SemanticMediaWiki
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21:27 < tpocra> But when I enable it in LocalSettings.php my whole wiki crashes because a Halo .php file refers to /w/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_QP_Template.php
21:27 < tpocra> And I don't have that file on my SVN trunk checkout of SemanticMediaWiki...
21:28 < tpocra> So my guess is maybe that Halo only works with older SemanticMediaWiki versions, but i don't know the best way to immediately verify that.
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21:52 < MaxSem> My hand decided that the time was nigh / And for a moment it slipped from view / And when it returned, it fairly burned / With confidence anew
21:52 < wikibugs> (mod) Version 0.4 dump file XML schema not published in stated location - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21224   +shell; +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
21:52 < MaxSem> wee-ho!
21:53 < CIA-81> maxsem * r57989 /trunk/phase3/ (33 files in 8 dirs): 
21:53 < CIA-81> (bug 20275) Fixed LIKE queries on SQLite backend
21:53 < CIA-81> * All manually built LIKE queries in the core are replaced with a wrapper function Database::buildLike()
21:53 < CIA-81> * This function automatically performs all escaping, so Database::escapeLike() is now almost never used
21:53  * MaxSem hides
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21:56 < wikibugs> (FIXED) LIKE is completely broken for SQLite - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20275  -need-review ; +comment (maxsem.wiki)
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22:03 < wikibugs> (mod) Please create a wiki for Wikimedia Portugal - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20791  (rhalsell)
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22:09 < tpocra> Is there a way to automatically transcode MP3s, m4as, WAVs, AIFFs into ogg Vorbis files using ffmpeg
22:10 < tpocra> So that when people upload a patent-encumbered audio file it will auto-transcode to Vorbis and share the ogg on the wiki?
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22:10 < tpocra> (same with videos... avis and movs and mp4s --> theora?)
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22:13 < crazed> i'm a little confused, is there a w directory in 1.15?
22:15 < MaxSem> no, and never was. /w/ is just the directory where the distributive is put by convention
22:15 < MaxSem> but you can name it as you like
22:16 < crazed> hm
22:16 < cirwin> I just moved my wiki to a new IP address (on an almost identical virtual machine) and now logging in seems very temperamental (it seems to set the cookie, but not read it) is there a setting I need to update?
22:16 < crazed> well i have an old version (not sure which one) it has the w directory but hte new one does not
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22:17 < crazed> and this is throwing off some of the links on the page as well as not showing any of the images/formatting. 
22:17 < cirwin> crazed: no the wiki goes `inside` the /w/ directory 
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22:17 < cirwin> so it's not part of mediawiki, just where mediawiki got put
22:18 < crazed> hm
22:19 < crazed> ah
22:19 < crazed> i get it
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22:20 < tpocra> Anyone got OpenStreetMap stuff to work with Maps extension (and Semantic Maps extension)?
22:21 < crazed> thanks guys that helped me a lot. i'm using a non standard web server so i was getting crazy confused with the redirects to get short urls working
22:21 < crazed> but all is working again and using the latest version
22:22 < NivFreak> hrm
22:22 < NivFreak> I must misunderstand what $wgOut->clearHTML() is supposed to do
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22:23 < cirwin> NivFreak: why?
22:24 < NivFreak> I expect it to clear the article contents 
22:24 < NivFreak> heh
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22:24 < cirwin> it clears the entire body, looking at the definition
22:25 < NivFreak> yea, but it doesn't seem to have that effect for me
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22:25 < NivFreak> the page still renders
22:25 < cirwin> maybe you do it too early? /me shurgs
22:28 < NivFreak> I assumed I could do a getHTML(), clearHTML() and then addWikiText() with my modified contents
22:28 < rainman-sr> is this philip person on bugzilla? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/author/philip
22:28 < NivFreak> am I missing something I need to do before using the output class?
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22:42 < Bryan> what is the purpose of wfMsgNoTrans?
22:43 < Bryan> (I understand that it does not preprocess the message, but what is the purpose of that?)
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22:44 < ialex> to not parse magic words
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22:45 < Bryan> and when would I not want to parse magic words?
22:45 < ialex> with wfMsg() magic words are parsed before replacing parameters and thus plural, urlencode cannot be used with these parameters
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22:45 < Brack10> Hi
22:46 < Brack10> Is there a repository of templates I can get so that i don't have to create them all manually?
22:46 < ialex> http://en.wikipedia.org/ :)
22:46 < Brack10> ialex: So copy all of the templates manually?
22:46 < ialex> Brack10: the ones you need
22:47 < Brack10> ok good idea
22:47 < Brack10> I get confused because sometimes they'e nested 3 levels or so
22:47 < Brack10> but I'll figure it out
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22:48 < ialex> you'll need to copy that ones too
22:48 < ialex> you can see the ones you need when you edit a page
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22:48 < ialex> there's a list of used templates at the bottom
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22:55 < NivFreak> cirwin: I think you were right ;)
22:56 < cirwin> oh
22:56  * cirwin struggles to remember what he said :p
22:56 < NivFreak> that I was doing clearHTML() too early
22:56 < cirwin> right
22:57 < NivFreak> I'm trying to get rid of the redirect in the accesscontrol extension, and instead just replace the page text
22:57 < NivFreak> it's hooking ArticleAfterFetchContents
22:58 < NivFreak> I guess?
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22:58 < NivFreak> bleh, I hate not being familiar with this stuff ;)
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23:12 < Platonides> isn't there a way to do a WHERE IS NOT NULL query with mediawiki database wrapper?
23:14 < ialex> Platonides: you need to pass array( "field IS NOT NULL" ) to the $cond params of Database::select() (or related) function
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23:19 < Platonides> ok, thanks
23:22 < CIA-81> ialex * r57990 /trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiOpenSearch.php: Fix for r57986: Notice: Undefined variable: wgEnableOpenSearchSuggest in includes/api/ApiOpenSearch.php on line 53
23:28 < wikibugs> (NEW) Datetime - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21227 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticForms; (ulli_757)
23:29 < CIA-81> btongminh * r57991 /trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 4 dirs): 
23:29 < CIA-81> * Bump wgStyleVersion for various upload javascript edits in this revision and r57868.
23:29 < CIA-81> * Show the upload footer message outside of the form
23:29 < CIA-81> * Document some remaining SpecialUpload functions
23:29 < CIA-81> * Move upload edittools to just below the textarea
23:29 < CIA-81> * Add the license preview table row in javascript entirely
23:29 < CIA-81> * Fill in a forgotten message
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23:42 < wikibugs> (mod) Datetime - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21227  (yaron57)
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