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00:10 < wikibugs> (mod) Creation of a new namespace in pt.wiktionary - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20817  trivial->enhancement (str4nd)
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00:13 < exercicio> just found that there is a .wiki.br domain available
00:14 < exercicio> there are wiki domains available for every country? wiki.us wiki.de ...?
00:19 < exercicio> just found that there is a .wiki.br domain available. there are wiki domains available for every country? wiki.us wiki.de ...?
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00:43 < tpocra> Is there a way to automatically transcode MP3s, m4as, WAVs, AIFFs into ogg Vorbis files using ffmpeg... So that when people upload a patent-encumbered audio file it will auto-transcode to Vorbis and share the ogg on the wiki?
00:43 < tpocra> (same with videos... avis and movs and mp4s --> theora?)
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00:49 < Viper550> as a sort of temp theme, could this use any adjustments? http://wiki.iidxfreak.com/index.php/Main_Page
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00:54 < ^demon> Viper550: Reminds me of the Mozilla wiki. I like it
00:54 < Viper550> it ''is'' the mozilla wiki theme
00:54 < Viper550> with some minor touches
00:54 < Viper550> to fit my main site
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00:55 < ^demon> :)
00:56 < ^demon> IIDX, I haven't played that in years
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01:02 < Viper550> trying to do something like sourceforge with a header area "above" the Wiki itself on monobook
01:04 < Viper550> I removed the logo portlet thing and put the div up, but the tabs are right at the top, and the sidebar has a gap where the logo was
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01:06 < Viper550> if you wanna see, f5
01:10 < Viper550> help?
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01:55 < wikibugs> (mod) Shortcut keys for IE7/IE8 and Avant is not working for marking items for watch list - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21204  +comment (hartman)
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02:20 < Meister-Lampe> hey there
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02:22 < Meister-Lampe> i've seen an oversight on de-wp hide multiple versions of a page at once. i can't reproduce that on my local mediawiki 1.15.1-installation. do i have to activate it manually? at the moment i have to hide/unhide all versions individually
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03:11 < exercicio> I exported all mysql tables to a zip, then imported in a new database. what happens to the images, are they inside the exported tables?
03:12 < flyingparchment> no, they're in the filesystem
03:12 < exercicio> the images folder?
03:12 < exercicio> copy it to the new mediawiki installation?
03:17 < exercicio> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki okay
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04:00 < cthuljew> Hallo, folks. Wondering if anyone could help me with finding images that have the {{SVG}} tag.
04:02 < cthuljew> Oh man, totally just found it. Thanks, #mediawiki.
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04:07  * Kamping_Kaiser waves to mattst88 (I'm interested in the answer too)
04:07 < mattst88> I've got news items on the Current_events page. How can I have them show up on the main page without the obvious manual duplication?
04:07  * mattst88 waves back to Kamping_Kaiser 
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04:29 < Amgine> {{Current_events}}
04:29 < Amgine> (if you add that to the main page, everything on the Current_events page will be directly included on the main page at that spot)
04:30 < Amgine> <point Kamping_Kaiser and mattst88 to the above>
04:31 < Kamping_Kaiser> thats too easy :s
04:31 < Kamping_Kaiser> Amgine: thanks :)
04:31 < Amgine> You're welcome.
04:31 < mattst88> Amgine: excellent, thanks a lot
04:32 < mattst88> too easy :)
04:33 < mattst88> Amgine: hmm, it's showing a red Template:Current_events link on the preview page.
04:33 < Amgine> <div style="float:right;left-margin:.5em;bottom-margin:.5em;border:1px;">{{Current_events}}</div>
04:34 < Amgine> Mmm, true. 
04:34 < Amgine> <tries to remember this>
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04:34 < mattst88> Amgine: see http://alphalinux.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
04:35 < Amgine> Try {{:Current_events}}
04:35 < Amgine> <goes to try it there.>
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04:35 < mattst88> Amgine: that does it :)
04:36 < Amgine> <nods> 
04:36 < Amgine> Suggestion: add w to your interwiki table as an alias for Wikipedia.
04:37 < mattst88> thanks, I appreciate it
04:37 < mattst88> Amgine: if you'll tell me how to do it, I will :)
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04:37 < Amgine> What are you using to interact with the database?
04:37 < mattst88> mysqli IIRC.
04:38 < Amgine> phpMyAdmin?
04:38 < CIA-81> aude * r57992 /trunk/phase3/skins/vector/ (main-ltr.css main-rtl.css): add border, styles for login and account forms for Vector skin
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04:39 < mattst88> Amgine: I'm not touching the database except through the wiki.
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04:39 < Amgine> okay, then you'll be typing out [[wikipedia:Article...
04:40 < mattst88> yeah, I guess so
04:41 < Kamping_Kaiser> mattst88: 
04:41 < Kamping_Kaiser> frigging xorg. just atic
04:41 < Kamping_Kaiser> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#How_can_I_create_interwiki_links_in_my_wiki.3F
04:41 < Kamping_Kaiser> mattst88: ^^
04:41 < mattst88> ahh, nice
04:42 < Amgine> (you could even do that from php cli)
04:44 < mattst88> yeah, I can do that
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05:02 < slaG> Anyone here familiar with FCKeditor
05:02 < slaG> ?
05:02 < charitwo> egad
05:02 < charitwo> kill it with fire
05:03 < slaG> is there a better editor?
05:03 < slaG> im new
05:03 < slaG> :P
05:03 < charitwo> i was actually referring to Natalie but I don't particularly like it tbh
05:03 < slaG> I cant get it to work on my skin :(
05:03 < charitwo> i like the good ol stock one
05:03 < slaG> works on monobook and other defaults
05:03 < Natalie> Suck it.
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05:03 < charitwo> you wish
05:03 < Amgine> <gg>
05:03 < slaG> any idea?
05:04 < charitwo> nope :)
05:06 < slaG> what other editors are there?
05:06 < slaG> is there an external text editor
05:06 < slaG> that will just format it for me?
05:06 < slaG> and I can copy paste it
05:06 < slaG> ?
05:08 < Amgine> considered looking through http://www.mediawiki.org ??
05:10 < slaG> ya
05:10 < slaG> normally irc is a last resort
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06:09 < BradLee> Has anyone seen Splarka?
06:09 < Natalie> He's taking a break.
06:09 < BradLee> Ok thanks. Just noticed he hasn't been on all week.
06:10 < Natalie> Same. :-)
06:10 < BradLee> heh ;)
06:12 < charitwo> you would notice, wouldn't you Natalie 
06:12 < Natalie> I would.
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06:43 < wikibugs> (mod) Insert Table: Cannot insert tables in IE - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20900  (wikibugs)
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07:03 < wikibugs> (mod) Navigable TOC : Focus incorrect position when user clicks the link in NTOC. - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21049  (wikibugs)
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07:16 < flyingparchment> hm, IE8 claims errors in head's config/index.php
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07:16 < AndyZee> anyone can help?
07:17 < AndyZee> where can i change "site.org/wiki/" to "site.org/" ??
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07:18 < CIA-81> aaron * r57993 /trunk/extensions/CodeReview/ (CodeReview.i18n.php ui/CodeRevisionView.php): removed more hard-coded english (bug 21190)
07:19 < charitwo> !shorturl | AndyZee 
07:19 < mwbot> AndyZee: To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL>. There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem
07:20 < AndyZee> mwbot, thx
07:20 < AndyZee> charitwo, thx ))
07:21 < wikibugs> (FIXED) CodeReview: hardcoded english for "test cases" - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21190  +comment (JSchulz_4587)
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07:41 < Rich_Morin> Is there a MW extension that allows the execution of (sandboxed) PHP code?  Alternatively, is there a sandboxed PHP server?
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07:55 < Natalie> !matrix
07:55 < mwbot> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix
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08:01 < wikibugs> (mod) Advanced toolbar is not available in IE 7 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20673  (wikibugs)
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08:10 < wikibugs> (mod) Navigable TOC : Headers added with header dropdown don't show up in IE8 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20895  (wikibugs)
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08:18 < CIA-81> nikerabbit * r57995 /trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Fix syntax errors from r57989
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08:29 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Number of articles in subcategories shown on category page - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3834  lowest->normal; +comment (ThomasBleher)
08:42 < wikibugs> (mod) Ability to block users from uploading files only - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4995  +comment (ThomasBleher)
08:43 < wikibugs> (NEW) Search and Replace is replacing an extra character for some words - Sinhala wiki - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21228 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (wikibugs)
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08:49 < wikibugs> (mod) Cannot edit section - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13354  +comment (anon.hui)
08:57 < wikibugs> (mod) Ability to block users from uploading files only - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4995  (ThomasBleher)
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09:09 < wikibugs> (mod) Resizing of link dialog visible in Opera 9.8 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20995  (wikibugs)
09:10 < Natalie> Opera 9.9
09:12 < charitwo> Natalia 9.9
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09:32 < wikibugs> (mod) Cannot edit section - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13354  (anon.hui)
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10:22 < CIA-81> overlordq * r57996 /trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/LocalFile.php: Followup to r57868: some maint scripts still call recordUpload which did not get updated when getInitialPageText was moved to a different class
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10:50 < wikibugs> (mod) links in timelines break on secure.wikimedia.org - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6515  normal->major; summary; +comment (happy-melon)
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11:13 < wikibugs> (mod) When a long heading is entered the TOC highlight get change - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21153  (wikibugs)
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11:44 < wikibugs> (mod) Using the move page UI you can create a page name containing +, not %2B - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21218  +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
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11:52 < wikibugs> (mod) Using the move page UI you can create a page name containing +, not %2B - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21218  (T.J.Hunt)
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12:03 < Luminette> Hey guys - anyone know how to or have a link to a resource for helping me to get our usual site header to appear as usual on our wiki page, above the wiki itself?
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12:10 < surfzoid> Hi
12:11 < surfzoid> in our media wiki, i give to our user a download link for a file on the same server, is there an easy way to display automatically the time stamp of the file near the link ?
12:12 < surfzoid> or an versioning system ?
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12:15 < Mufka> I seem to remember there being a bug about the correct count showing up in categories (i.e. The following 200 pages are in this category, out of xxx total).  Has this ever been addressed?
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12:21 < Natalie> No.
12:22 < Natalie> Not for large categories.
12:22 < Natalie> For small categories, it just does a count on-load or something.
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12:23 < Natalie> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16765
12:27 < Mufka> Natalie: What is considered small?  
12:28 < Natalie> Umm.
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12:28 < Mufka> 366?
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12:29  * Mufka knows he created a bug report for this, but can't find it.
12:30 < Natalie> http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=40499
12:31 < Mufka> Maybe a specific example will help:  [[:en:Category:Days of the year]] always shows about 344 members.  There are 366.
12:32 < Mufka> There are not 20 pages blanked often enough to have the number so low.
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12:35 < surfzoid> About my question, am i at the right place ?
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12:48 < thedj> surfzoid: you need something like a mediawiki extension that does directory listings ?
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12:49 < thedj> perhaps you can expand on this http://perassi.org/2007/04/23/a-mediawiki-directory-lister-extension/
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12:59 < wikibugs> (NEW) Category count is incorrect - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21230 normal; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (mufka.wiki)
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13:07 < surfzoid> thedj: i will look thanks :-)
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13:15 < wikibugs> (mod) Using the move page UI you can create a page name containing +, not %2B - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21218  (alex.emsenhuber)
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13:24 < Meister-Lampe> greetings
13:25 < Meister-Lampe> i've seen an oversight on de-wp hide multiple versions of a page at once. i can't reproduce that on my local mediawiki 1.15.1-installation. do i have to activate it manually? at the moment i have to hide/unhide all versions individually
13:25 < wikibugs> (INVALID) Using the move page UI you can create a page name containing +, not %2B - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21218  +comment (T.J.Hunt)
13:26 < Raymond_afk> Meister-Lampe: I think this is a new feature coming with 1.16.0
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13:28 < Meister-Lampe> ah, thanks, that explains why i wasn't able to activate it on 1.15.1
13:28 < Raymond_> yep :)
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13:40 < CIA-81> demon * r57997 /trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/parser/Parser.php): (bug 21222) Free <math> tag if not using it. Patch by Platonides.
13:42 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Free <math> tag if not using it - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21222  -need-review +reviewed; +comment (innocentkiller)
13:43 < wikibugs> (NEW) print-out of subproperty values - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21231 minor; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (zaltenbach)
13:47 < Bryan> maybe Platonides should just request commit access
13:50 < wikibugs> (NEW) print out of chained property values - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21232 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (zaltenbach)
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13:53 < wikibugs> (mod) print-out of subproperty values - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21231  (zaltenbach)
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13:59 < wikibugs> (mod) Make Navigable TOC collapsible - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21226  +comment (roan.kattouw)
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14:02 < exercicio> how do I change the sorting order of DPL? I wan't "'a" to come before "a" not after "z"
14:04 < wikibugs> (mod) print-out of subproperty values - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21231  (zaltenbach)
14:04 < ^demon> Bryan: He's certainly given enough good patches :)
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14:12 < CIA-81> demon * r57998 /trunk/phase3/includes/User.php: Add profiling to getEffectiveGroups()
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14:34 < str4nd> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/DeXtR
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14:38 < kevindanko> Anyone familiar with Dynamic Page List?
14:38 < kevindanko> I created a Dynamic Page list in Category Mode  displaying all pages in  a certain namespace.   The pages now organize based on the letter of their namespace.  I want this to change so that it shows them by page title
14:38 < kevindanko> is there a way to eliminate the sort by namespace?
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14:40 < Haley> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/DeXtR
14:40 < Alphos> Haley str4nd just gave it
14:41 < Haley> i see...
14:41 < Alphos> (guys got some balls, though... wonder how long his server could resist a ddos :D )
14:41 < str4nd> Erm.. Don't
14:41 < Alphos> ^^
14:41  * Alphos imagines jimmy wales with a "retaliate" button on his desk ;p
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14:43 < bobbarker> Anyone know any external editors that do the wiki format
14:43 < bobbarker> I dont want an addon
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14:53 < kevindanko> nvm i figured it out
14:53 < kevindanko> $sSqlSortkey = ", $sPageTable.page_title ".$sOrderCollation." as sortkey";
14:57 < exercicio> kevindanko: you how to make DPL list 'a before a?
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15:01 < Luminette> I keep asking but nobody seems to know? or it's so basic that nobody wants to respond, but I'm really not having luck with a search engine; We're trying to get our usual header and footer from the rest of our site to appear on the wiki pages as well - anybody have a link that may help or a few minutes to show me?
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15:03 < CIA-81> diana * r57999 /trunk/extensions/DonationInterface/ (7 files in 4 dirs): Added more data collection to process, get lang from URL, Paypal submits to ContributionTracking, tweaks
15:04 < Alphos> Luminette read up on frames, css, there is no simple answer as this is pretty advanced
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15:05 < kevindanko> is there a way to embed a template on every page in  a namespace?
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15:07 < Luminette> mk, thanks Alphos
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15:08 < bobbarker> Anyone know a good wiki post editor?
15:08 < bobbarker> looking for external program
15:08 < exercicio> how do I disable thumbnails?
15:13 < wikibugs> (mod) ProofreadPage: special buttons are missing when using enhanced editing toolbar - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21225  +comment (roan.kattouw)
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15:14 < wikibugs> (WONTFIX) Search & replace : User cannot UNDO text replacement in Opera - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20846  (roan.kattouw)
15:18 < wikibugs> (mod) Search and Replace is replacing an extra character for some words - Sinhala wiki - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21228  +comment (roan.kattouw)
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15:20 < kevindanko> Anyone know of an extension that will list all authors and contributers to wiki globally rather then per page?
15:23 < Alphos> kevindanko : Special:Listusers ?
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15:23 < Alphos> or Special:RecentChanges
15:23 < kevindanko> NO
15:23 < wikibugs> (NEW) allow or document linking to "Book Sources" with alternate display text - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21233 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (Tom_Roche)
15:24 < kevindanko> i want a list of all authors and contributers only not of all users
15:24 < kevindanko> and i only them to display once
15:24 < kevindanko> for an acknowledgement page i'd like to add all users who created or edited an article
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15:25 < Alphos> kevindanko : Special:Listusers?editsOnly=1
15:26 < Alphos> but since you don't want Special:Listusers, i guess that's not an option...
15:26 < Alphos> DIY may be an option, thought :)
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15:35 < CIA-81> werdna * r58000 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (7 files in 4 dirs): LiquidThreads: Add a per-talkpage history page, just joins on thread/page.
15:36 < CIA-81> werdna * r58001 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (9 files in 4 dirs): Update LiquidThreads to trunk state for testing
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15:43 < wikibugs> (mod) ProofreadPage: special buttons are missing when using enhanced editing toolbar - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21225  (thomasV1)
15:43 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Per-talkpage history function for LiquidThreads - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20579  highest->normal; +comment (agarrett)
15:44 < wikibugs> (NEW) Issues with Titles containing special characters - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21234 minor; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (overlordq)
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15:47 < CIA-81> aude * r58002 /trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: bump up style version, followup for r57992
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15:51 < wikibugs> (mod) allow or document linking to "Book Sources" with alternate display text - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21233  +comment (enomil)
15:53 < wikibugs> (WFM) allow or document linking to "Book Sources" with alternate display text - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21233  +comment (innocentkiller)
15:54 < CIA-81> werdna * r58003 /trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: Add some hook HTML injection points to EditForm, between the Copyright warning and the content, and after the preview content.
15:55 < CIA-81> werdna * r58004 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/View.php: LiquidThreads: Show signature after edit box and preview content, to signal that the comments are pre-signed
15:56 < wikibugs> (INVALID) "Log in" and "E-mail password" buttons too close together on login form - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14187  +comment (innocentkiller)
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16:03 < wikibugs> (mod) Lack of paper trail for thread splitting and merging - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20930  highest->normal; +comment (agarrett)
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16:08 < wikibugs> (mod) 1.12 (and up) upload fails on Windows Server - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14213   +upstream; +comment (innocentkiller)
16:08 < ^demon> We could probably rename +upstream to +itsphpsfault
16:09 < RoanKattouw> *snort*
16:10 < wikibugs> (mod) allow or document linking to "Book Sources" with alternate display text - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21233  (Tom_Roche)
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16:23 < CIA-81> werdna * r58005 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/api/ApiThreadAction.php: Use the appropriate commitRevision method when setting subject through the API
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16:31 < wikibugs> (mod) Automatic edit summary generation - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12411  +comment (innocentkiller)
16:32 < wikibugs> (DUP) Automated edit summary for interwiki edits - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12613  +comment (innocentkiller)
16:32 < wikibugs> (mod) Automatic edit summary generation - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12411  +comment (innocentkiller)
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16:35 < CIA-81> werdna * r58006 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (LiquidThreads.php classes/Hooks.php classes/View.php): 
16:35 < CIA-81> LiquidThreads: use a hook to run postEditUpdates for editing existing threads,
16:35 < CIA-81> rather than running it manually on specific edit-thread interfaces. This allows
16:35 < CIA-81> compatibility with API and other methods of editing these pages.
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16:43 < KonS> hola buenas tardes, me gustaria saber si con wikimedia podemos impedir que los usuarios se descargen los manuales. ( podran copiar y pegar.... o hacer fotos...pero no descargarse la documentacion) Gracias por adelantado
16:43 < KonS> he buscado por google, pero esa pregunta exacta no la encuentro
16:45 < Tuxedo> Hi!
16:45 < freakolowsky> lo, ladies
16:46 < freakolowsky> anything interesting happened while i was gone :D
16:46 < KonS> hi, u are the ipoki tuxedo?
16:47 < ^demon> freakolowsky: The usual...trunk, world ending, etc.
16:47 < KonS> i wont to kwon if whit the wikimedia i can bloked the download of the documents
16:47 < CIA-81> werdna * r58007 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (classes/Thread.php classes/View.php lqt.css): LiquidThreads: Move timestamp down next to the signature, with a small 1em gap.
16:47 < Tuxedo> I've set up a wki family w/ several wikis running from the same MW sourxe (currently 1.15.1) on a server in /usr/home/wiki with different configs for each, eg. LocalSettings_domain1.php, LocalSettings_domain1.php etc.
16:47 < freakolowsky> ^demon : oh ... then i didn't miss much
16:47 < werdna> KonS: You can't block download
16:47 < werdna> ^demon: you all booked for Paris?
16:47 < Tuxedo> sidenote: no I don't think I know ipoki
16:47 < ^demon> werdna: Well I've picked my flights...waiting on schiste to get the tickets for me :)
16:48 < KonS> thanks werdna
16:48 < werdna> \o/
16:48 < werdna> ^demon: what flights are they?
16:48 < Tuxedo> Previously I had several wikis running separately but soon found it unmanageable in terms updates of MW and extensions etc.
16:48 < freakolowsky> what's happenin in Paris?
16:48 < ^demon> US Airways out of Richmond Int'l with layover in Philly on the way over. Either the same coming back or an Air France flight, if we can find something cheap.
16:48 < Tuxedo> I'm migrating some of the older stand-alone wikis into the new set up.
16:49 < Tuxedo> In the new set up resources such as all MW program files and extensions are stared which is great, but images should preferably not be shared, because at some stage I might decide to drop an entire wiki but I have one gigantic hashed images folder. 
16:49 < wikibugs> (NEW) Upload API backwards error messages - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21235 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: API; (russblau)
16:49 < ^demon> Off to work :p
16:49 < Tuxedo> So I would like to have a set up like:
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16:49 < Tuxedo> something went wrong here with my IRC...
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16:50 < Tuxedo> Anotehr would be /usr/home/images_example2.com
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16:50 < CIA-81> ialex * r58008 /trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
16:50 < CIA-81> * (bug 21234) Moving subpages of titles containing \\ now works properly
16:50 < CIA-81> Per http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.preg-replace.php \ must be doubled in $replacement
16:51 < Tuxedo> For images for   bla.example2.com, de.example2.com etc.
16:51 < freakolowsky> @brion bon apetit
16:51 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Issues with Titles containing special characters - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21234  +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
16:51 < brion-breakfast> nom nom
16:51 < Tuxedo> Can this be done in LocalSettings_domain1.php and can I migrate images from an old wiki into a new pathway like for example images_domain1 without upsetting the database etc. 
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16:51 < Tuxedo> Or would I need to manually save and re-upload all images for a new set-up?
16:52 < freakolowsky> brion-breakfast: hey ... how stable is svn build atm?
16:54 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Show signature in preview - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20929  highest->normal; +comment (agarrett)
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16:55 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Hook edit for LiquidThreads post-edit updates - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20931  highest->normal; +comment (agarrett)
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16:56 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Fully AJAXify post and edit cycle - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21067  +comment (agarrett)
16:56 < wikibugs> (FIXED) LiquidThreads toolbox prevents clicking or highlighting of content - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21029  highest->normal; +comment (agarrett)
16:57 < wikibugs> (FIXED) LiquidThreads: API for creating and replying to threads - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20965  highest->normal; +comment (agarrett)
16:58 < wikibugs> (mod) Using liquid threads should't remove the edit tab, just change it - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21170  (agarrett)
16:59 < brion-breakfast> freakolowsky: you never know ;)
16:59 < brion-breakfast> feel free to pull wmf-deployment branch also if you want something that's not _quite_ as constantly bleeding edge as trunk
17:00 < freakolowsky> well ... i feel kind of russian-roulett-ish today ... will go from 13.4 to svn on one of our inhouse production installs :D
17:01 < freakolowsky> if i'm not here tomorow ... i saw the light at the end of the tunnel :D
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17:02 < werdna> found a whole bunch of bugs I forgot to close in the last two weeks or so :p
17:02 < CIA-81> werdna * r58009 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (i18n/Lqt.i18n.php pages/NewUserMessagesView.php): Add "From talkpage" to the new messages page.
17:03 < wikibugs> (FIXED) LiquidThreads new messages should display the talk page each message is on - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21021  +comment (agarrett)
17:03 < freakolowsky> werdna: guess i'll be fixing some of them in the next few days
17:03 < werdna> heh, not unless you're using LiquidThreads
17:03 < werdna> it's our fun experimental discussion system
17:06 < CIA-81> werdna * r58010 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/pages/TalkpageView.php: LiquidThreads: Remove "Started By" column in TOC, apparently it does not fly with the community
17:07 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Make "Started By" column disablable - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21056  +comment (agarrett)
17:07 < werdna> I'm thinking of forking LiquidThreads to a version that doesn't depend on MediaWiki in my own time.
17:07 < werdna> It's becoming quite an impressive system.
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17:09 < werdna> hey domas
17:09 < werdna> back in LT?
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17:10 < freakolowsky> werdna: any demo site up for LT? wannna see
17:10 < werdna> http://liquidthreads.labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Feedback
17:11 < wikibugs> (FIXED) LiquidThreads should have more display preferences - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20933  +comment (agarrett)
17:12 < CIA-81> ialex * r58011 /trunk/phase3/includes/diff/DifferenceInterface.php: * (bug 21053) Fixed diff header layout for multi diffs with no changes
17:12 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Broken diff header layout for multi diffs with no changes - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21053  +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
17:13 < freakolowsky> werdna: getting FF stop-script dialogs :S
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17:13 < werdna> freakolowsky: odd, try reloading
17:13 < werdna> I've had reports of that, but I have no idea how to reproduce it
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17:14 < freakolowsky> werdna did ... same issue ... FF 2.0 @ slackware
17:15 < werdna> looks like I need to install FF 2.0 and you need to install FF 3.5 :)
17:15 < guillom> freakolowsky, does the stop-script dialog gives you the specific script involved?
17:16 < guillom> I've been getting these messages too lately, but they were related to usability scripts
17:16 < freakolowsky> i have FF 3.5 but i also have KDE 3.5 and FF looks awful on KDE pre 4.0 ... if all my bosses would give me a break for a day i could update my sistem ... but looks like a no-go for a while
17:16 < freakolowsky> guillom ... second
17:16 < guillom> give*
17:17 < freakolowsky> guillom js2.combined.js @ 1788
17:17 < guillom> werdna, ^
17:17 < guillom> if it helps
17:18 < freakolowsky> damn ... getting a weird-one on svnbuild ... https://www.abakus.si/mwabawiki-new/index.php
17:20 < CIA-81> werdna * r58012 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/lqt.css: Force line-height to be 2em for all lqt-commands, fixes issues with odd display of "merge to" et al.
17:23 < wikibugs> (FIXED) LiquidThreads thread-level commands need some lovin' - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20536  +comment (agarrett)
17:24 < OverlordQ> probably means you're doing something weird with default user options
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17:24 < domas> hi!
17:24 < domas> werdna: ye
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17:25 < Nikerabbit> ialex: doesn't preq_quote work for replacements too?
17:25 < freakolowsky> OverlordQ: hey ... didn't touch a thing ... svn update ... 'thwasit!
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17:25 < ialex> Nikerabbit: per php.net only \ need to be "escaped"
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17:26 < Nikerabbit> hmhph
17:26 < Nikerabbit> dunno
17:26 < Nikerabbit> I'd escape more than less
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17:27 < wikibugs> (mod) Upload API backwards error messages - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21235  enhancement->minor (russblau)
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17:28 < Nikerabbit> 21235 is funny
17:28 < CIA-81> werdna * r58013 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (classes/View.php i18n/Lqt.i18n.php): Mention new location of thread in moved placeholder
17:28 < Nikerabbit> someone calls wfMsg for wfMsg'ed text
17:28 < Nikerabbit> or just some other text
17:30 < freakolowsky> PS: a month ago tere was a discussion about making a DB independent updating system ... anything new on that front?
17:31 < wikibugs> (mod) Slight tweak to category redirects - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17571  (russblau)
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17:31 < wikibugs> (mod) Automatic category redirects - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3311  (russblau)
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17:32 < Nikerabbit> updating what?
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17:34 < freakolowsky> mw?! ... u know that monster to all us non mysql-postgres-sqlite users called updaters.inc
17:35 < Nikerabbit> how would updater be db independent(?) if the definitions are not
17:36 < freakolowsky> updates scripted and actual updating left to overriden functions in DB abstraction?
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17:37 < Nikerabbit> dunno
17:38 < surfzoid> i am using the following extension : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FileSystemListing , i get only one file, is it possible to store this file name in an var and reuse it to concatenate in an download link ?
17:39 < CIA-81> maxsem * r58014 /trunk/phase3/maintenance/sqlite.php: That way of percentage calculation was an epic fail:)
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17:40 < MaxSem> you could do it teh SQLite way: transform MySQL DDL to your liking using l33t regexes
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17:41 < freakolowsky> hmmm ... getting NULL out of getDefaultUserOptionOverrides instead of an empty array
17:41 < MaxSem> (I must say that it works only because SQLite quietly ignores unknown types and it dynamically-typed)
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17:42 < wikibugs> (NEW) Allow filtering Special:NewPages by username on Polish Wikipedia - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21236 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (danny.leinad)
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17:43 < wikibugs> (NEW) Remove Brion as point of contact - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21237 normal; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (innocentkiller)
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17:51 < CIA-81> ialex * r58015 /trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES maintenance/updateArticleCount.php): * (bug 21006) maintenance/updateArticleCount.php now works again on PostgreSQL
17:51 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Regression: updateArticleCount.php --update option doesn't work - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21006  +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
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17:57 < CIA-81> raymond * r58016 /trunk/extensions/DonationInterface/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
17:57 < CIA-81> * Remove weird indention (tabs are default, not spaces)
17:57 < CIA-81> * Line breaks for easier i18n at translatewiki
17:57 < ^demon> brion: off the top of my head, no. I assumed there'd be others.
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17:58 < wikibugs> (mod) Cache DISPLAYTITLE to use it in categories and for tooltips - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20278  +comment (brion)
17:58 < wikibugs> (mod) Make page titles case-insensitive (but preserve case-sensitivity for display) - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=453  (brion)
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18:01 < freakolowsky> erm ... seeing a lot of array unions with arithmetic operand (+) ... what if one of the arrays is null?!
18:01 < Nikerabbit> uh
18:02 < Nikerabbit> I wouldn't describe it as an union
18:02 < freakolowsky> man says union
18:02 < Nikerabbit> > var_dump( array() + null );
18:02 < Nikerabbit> PHP Fatal error:  Unsupported operand types in /var/www/w/maintenance/eval.php(60) : eval()'d code on line 1
18:03 < freakolowsky> that being my point :S https://www.abakus.si/jk/jksvn/
18:03 < Nikerabbit> well yeah
18:03 < freakolowsky> getDefaultUserOptionOverrides returns NULL
18:04 < Nikerabbit> in trunk?
18:04 < freakolowsky> yep
18:04 < freakolowsky> note the svn in url :D
18:04 < Nikerabbit> I thought I fixed something like that
18:04 < freakolowsky> YTW!
18:04 < Nikerabbit> anyway, there was signature bug somewhere... but I'm not 100% it was caused by the changes by werdna
18:05 < freakolowsky> hmm ... array_merge fails also
18:06 < Nikerabbit> just change the function to return empty array again?
18:06 < freakolowsky> is return from getItem or getSubItem always an array?
18:06 < Nikerabbit> that would be semantically more correct, right?
18:06 < freakolowsky> i know
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18:07 < CIA-81> aude * r58017 /trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: simplify prefs-help-email, add usernamehasherror for more specific account creation errors
18:07 < freakolowsky> but if getItem and getSubItem  always return an array i could make a general fix there
18:08 < wikibugs> (NEW) Self-removing flood flag on Polish Wikipedia - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21238 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (danny.leinad)
18:09 < CIA-81> werdna * r58018 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/Thread.php: Fix bug with moving threads caused by failure to add thread_article_id to getRow() method
18:09 < freakolowsky> yep ... this will need a global fix ... now the same error shifted to another code
18:09 < wikibugs> (FIXED) LiquidThreads placeholders have no pointer to the new page - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20935  +comment (agarrett)
18:09 < ^demon> audo: you didn't update messages.inc
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18:10 < ^demon> aude: Also, why add a new msg if you're not using it?
18:10 < paxcoder> is there a way i could add a file from commons to non-wikipedia mediawiki wiki?
18:11 < werdna> sure
18:11 < paxcoder> (that is, include it in the page without having to copy and upload to the wiki in question)
18:11 < werdna> !instantcommons
18:11 < mwbot> InstantCommons was a proposed feature for MediaWiki to allow any MediaWiki installation to use media on the Wikimedia Commons. This has basically been realized via $wgForeignFileRepos. See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgForeignFileRepos>.
18:11 < aude> where is messages.inc?
18:11 < werdna> aude: maintenance/languages I think
18:11 < aude> i'm working on adding more specific error messages for the account creation form
18:11 < Raymond_afk> paxcoder: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Reusing_content_outside_Wikimedia#Own_MediaWiki_installation
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18:12 < paxcoder> thanks.
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18:12 < ^demon> aude: oh ok. But yeah messages.inc needs updating.
18:12 < Raymond_> aude: best to commit changes to core and message files in one commit
18:13 < aude> see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Is_our_registration_form_user-friendly_.3F
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18:14 < freakolowsky> lol ... print_r @ Maintenance.php
18:15 < wikibugs> (REOPENED) Free <math> tag if not using it - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21222  +comment (Platonides)
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18:17 < ^demon> Platonides: You can hit me now or later.
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18:19 < wikibugs> (DUP) Mediawiki:Sidebar ignores html comment markups - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21146  +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
18:19 < wikibugs> (mod) Comment not possible in MediaWiki:Sidebar if not in an extra line - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5198  +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
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18:21 < wikibugs> (NEW) External links on comments differ from wikitext - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21239 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (Platonides)
18:23 < Platonides> ^demon, I already explained it on codereview
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18:25 < ^demon> Platonides: Yeah and I replied. I can fix it this evening unless you pester somebody between now & then.
18:25 < Platonides> Ops, I hadn't seen your answer
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18:26 < Platonides> I was busy opening a bug for codereview wikitext ;)
18:26 < Platonides> don't worry, it can wait
18:27 < freakolowsky> anyone here worked on LocalisationCache lately? ... or ever for that matter
18:28 < CIA-81> werdna * r58019 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (10 files in 5 dirs): Again update LiquidThreads to trunk state
18:28 < Nikerabbit> a bit
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18:29 < freakolowsky> my question from before ... is replacing null returns with empty arrays for getItem and getSubitem legal in this situation
18:29 < wikibugs> (mod) Ability to block users from uploading files only - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4995  +comment (Platonides)
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18:31 < Nikerabbit> dunno
18:31 < freakolowsky> :S
18:31 < wikibugs> (mod) Ability to block users from uploading files only - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4995  (innocentkiller)
18:31 < Nikerabbit> TimStarling designed it
18:31 < freakolowsky> earth calling Tim ....
18:33 < freakolowsky> and i just can't seem to find out where this Array () comes from :S https://www.abakus.si/mwabawiki-new/index.php?title=Glavna_stran
18:33 < freakolowsky> oh ... nevermind that
18:33 < CIA-81> rotem * r58020 /trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Localization update for he.
18:34 < aude> i have changed User.php and SpecialUserlogin.php to return a WikiError and associated error message
18:34 < aude>  so the user gets something specific rather than "You have not specified a valid user name" when they try to create an account with an invalid username
18:35 < freakolowsky> damn ... blank array will not play
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18:35 < aude> so far, this is done if the username has a hash (#), but not some of the other checks
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18:36 < aude> does this sound reasonable?  should i commit my changes, even though i only have the code change for one of the checks, and not all validation checks?
18:37 < Platonides> aude, having a better message seems useful
18:38 < Platonides> if it's well-implemented, having a partial implementation is better than nothing
18:38 < freakolowsky> Nikerabbit: ok ... now this is getting VooDoo-ish on me ... changed localisationCache, to return blank arrays ... was not cool ... reverted ... and now it works fine :S
18:38 < Platonides> otoh, if you plan to finish it in a couple of days, I'd wait to commit the full fix
18:38 < aude> ok, what i'm trying to do is take some stuff that's inMediaWiki:Fancycaptcha-createaccount on enwiki, and build it into the form process
18:39 < CIA-81> raymond * r58021 /trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
18:39 < CIA-81> * (bug 21047) Wrap 'cannotdelete' into a div with the generic 'error' class and an own 'mw-error-cannotdelete' class
18:39 < CIA-81> Based on a patch by Platonides
18:40 < aude> i'd like to commit what i have now and get feedback, in case i'm making some mistake (like not adding messages to messages.inc)
18:41 < Platonides> I'm more concerned on the way you use to check those characters
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18:41 < Platonides> commit it
18:41 < Platonides> or if you prefer, post it on bugzilla
18:41 < wikibugs> (mod) Filter Special:Listusers by active users - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21092  +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
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18:42 < aude> Platonides: the check for characters is there already,
18:43 < aude> i'll commit it, also so that something goes with what i added to MessagesEn.php
18:43 < Platonides> well, if you added another check to show the message, that would have been wrong
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18:45 < aude> done, there's no extra check
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18:46 < aude> nevermind, messages.inc is out of date, let me resolve that
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18:47 < ialex> Raymond_: You don't close https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21047 ? :)
18:48 < Platonides> he's waiting to answer http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/58021#c4298 :)
18:48 < CIA-81> rotem * r58022 /trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update.
18:48 < CIA-81> freakolowsky * r58023 /trunk/phase3/includes/Preferences.php: Added default value for gender and editfont to avoid Global default invalid message.
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18:49 < ialex> Platonides: ah :)
18:49 < Platonides> well, in fact he probably forgot, but that was a good excuse xD
18:51 < Raymond_> ialex: I know. my wife comes home... priority you know :)
18:52 < CIA-81> rotem * r58024 /trunk/extensions/ (4 files in 4 dirs): 
18:52 < CIA-81> * Localization update for he.
18:52 < CIA-81> * Replacing 'users' to 'user' in 'group-flood-member' message in WikimediaMessages.
18:52 < Platonides> yes, it's preemtive :)
18:52 < ialex> Raymond_: you aren't married with MediaWiki? :D
18:53 < Raymond_> ialex: sometimes only :)
18:54 < surfzoid> Is there a parameter, who say to wikimedia, to don't refresh the cache, i need to made a modification to see the refresh correctly !
18:54 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Wrap cannotdelete Msg - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21047  +comment (raimond.spekking)
18:54 < Platonides> surfzoid, you can force a cache refresh using ?action=purge
18:55 < CIA-81> aude * r58025 /trunk/phase3/includes/ (User.php specials/SpecialUserlogin.php): more specific error message, using WikiError, if user trys to create account with hash character
18:55 < surfzoid> Platonides: in wikimedia config file ?
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18:55 < ialex> freakolowsky: +					'default' => 'male', : wouldn't 'unknown' be better?
18:55 < Platonides> surfzoid, what are you exactly trying to do?
18:56 < surfzoid> we have an server with appache and wikimedia, i see, if i do not modyfy a article, the page is never refresh, example the visit counter 
18:56 < surfzoid> Platonides: ^
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18:56 < freakolowsky> ialex: ??
18:56 < Platonides> it is intended to have pages cache, to avoid load
18:57 < freakolowsky> what'dido?
18:57 < Platonides> unless the articles are changed
18:57 < ialex> freakolowsky: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/58023
18:57 < Platonides> sites with high load run with the article counter disabled
18:57 < Platonides> do you have some caching layer that would show the previous version?
18:57 < Platonides> Raymond_, would you mind changing mw-error-cannotdelete to an id ?
18:57 < freakolowsky> yes?
18:58 < freakolowsky> did i do anything wrong?
18:58 < CIA-81> maxsem * r58026 /trunk/phase3/maintenance/sqlite/archives/patch-rd_interwiki.sql: Separate patch-rd_interwiki.sql for SQLite
18:58 < ^demon|lunch> nom nom nom.
18:59 < surfzoid> Platonides: something like yes, ho thats mean, the following extension (which i use) will never work correctly : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FileSystemListing
18:59 < aude> i'm working on messages.inc , having problems committing it
18:59 < Raymond_> Platonides: why an id?
18:59 < ^demon|lunch> Hahaha, HughesNet commercial on tv.
18:59  * ^demon|lunch remembers the bug about them
19:00 < Raymond_> Platonides: most of such wraps has a class not an id
19:00 < ialex> freakolowsky: It'd be better to have 'unknown' as default value for 'gender' rather than 'male' as in $wgDefaultUserOptions
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19:00 < surfzoid> Platonides: i have hacked it to display also the file date, like that i just need to upload new release of our soft and the date is automatically changed, but this will not work if article are never refresh at each visit, also this broke the visitor count at bottom page
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19:00 < freakolowsky> ialex oh that ... just a sec
19:02 < Platonides> Raymond_, I wan to check if i have that error 
19:02 < Platonides> if (document.getElementById('mw-error-cannotdelete')) looks nicer than if (document.getElementsByClassName('mw-error-cannotdelete').length > 0)
19:02 < CIA-81> freakolowsky * r58027 /trunk/phase3/includes/Preferences.php: changed def. gender to unknown.
19:03 < Platonides> surfzoid, if your problem is with an extension output, it probably needs a call to $parser->disableCache() 
19:03 < aude> nevermind, rotem made the needed change to messages.inc so it's okay now
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19:04 < Raymond_> Platonides: please comment it on CodeReview and ask for a change. I am unsure what the best is. I do not enough about JS. I follow our code standards only and as far as I know a class is more standard...
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19:04 < Raymond_> + know enough ...
19:05 < ^demon|lunch> I think we use too many classes and id's anyway :)
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19:05 < Tuxedo_> I just migrated a stand-alone wiki to a wiki-family set-up with shared source and I'm having some trouble with uploading images. The exact error is:
19:05 < Platonides> ^demon|lunch, what do you think about it?
19:05 < wikibugs> (WFM) Filter Special:Listusers by active users - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21092  +comment (cenarium.sysop)
19:05 < Tuxedo_> Internal error: Could not rename file "/var/tmp/phpkI2hY9" to "public/b/bd/Test.jpg".
19:05 < ^demon|lunch> Platonides: They're equally evil :)
19:05 < Tuxedo_> Does anyone know what teh cause could be?
19:06 < ^demon|lunch> Tuxedo_: check permissions on your /images folder.
19:06 < Tuxedo_> Yes I did: Allways 777!
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19:06 < ^demon|lunch> Tuxedo_: subdirs too?
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19:08 < surfzoid> thanks Platonides, i use "$parser->disableCache() " directly in the php extension , right ?
19:08 < Platonides> yes
19:08 < Tuxedo_> Yes. Many sub directories. Its the same directory (permissions) that was used in the stand-alone version.
19:08 < Platonides> but the sentence has to be placed in the right place :)
19:08 < ^demon|lunch> hmmmm.
19:08 < Tuxedo_> I just copied it from the one wiki to the other.
19:08 < surfzoid> haha Platonides can yu say me where ?
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19:10 < Raymond_> Platonides: thank for your codereview. 
19:10 < Tuxedo_> Maybe better I use some image import tool.
19:11 < Tuxedo_> Actually, that won't work. Its uploading (not displaying) that's the problem.
19:12 < Platonides> surfzoid, this change http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Extension%3AFileSystemListing&action=historysubmit&diff=282619&oldid=200356
19:13 < surfzoid> very nice :-), i can send somewhere my hacked version of it ?
19:13 < surfzoid> Platonides: ^
19:13 < Platonides> you could edit the page
19:15 < surfzoid> Platonides: after changing this function i need to add an argument true or false in the call ?
19:16 < surfzoid> Platonides: or ", $frame" is optional ?
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19:18 < l0wkey> hello .. any running mediawiki on nginx? I need some assistance how to shorten URL-s / write all the nginx rewrite rules?
19:18 < surfzoid> hum, delete ", $frame" in the function, keep out an error
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19:19 < CIA-81> rotem * r58028 /trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization fix.
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19:19 < freakolowsky> nuffadis ... out
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19:20 < Platonides> surfzoid, the call is done by mediawiki
19:21 < Platonides> the code at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FileSystemListing should just work
19:21 < surfzoid> Platonides: with "$frame" as 4th argument, i have an error
19:22 < Platonides> which mediawiki version are you using?
19:22 < surfzoid>     *  MediaWiki: 1.11.2
19:22 < surfzoid>     * PHP: 5.2.5 (apache2handler)
19:22 < surfzoid>     * MySQL: 5.0.45-Max 
19:23 < ^demon> 1.11.x? That's ollllldddddd
19:24 < Platonides> we should include a release date on Special:Version, with capital letters asking them to update if it's too old
19:24 < Platonides> surfzoid, you can leave out $frame to get it working on your version
19:24 < Platonides> or you can update your install, which is highly recommended
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19:24 < ^demon> The new-installer is going to yell at you for installing outdated versions :p
19:25 < ^demon> Granted, this doesn't help people installing versions before new-installer gets merged...
19:25 < surfzoid> Platonides: well it is the last one who come with our server, Mandriva 2008
19:25 < Platonides> $wgDumbAdminNeedRemindsForUpdatingTheWiki = true;
19:26 < ^demon> Platonides: Don't even let them disable it ;-)
19:27 < Platonides> surfzoid, Mediawiki 1.11 was released 2 years ago
19:27 < surfzoid> whooo they are late :D
19:28 < Platonides> 1.11.2 was released 2008-03-02, but still
19:29 < Platonides> if they wanted to include a mediawiki from March 2008 they should have used 1.12
19:31 < surfzoid> héhé, it is our server and i m not fan of upgrade the OS, i guess MDV 2009 have it
19:32 < surfzoid> Platonides: is it okay like that : http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Extension%3AFileSystemListing&action=historysubmit&diff=282626&oldid=200356
19:32 < ^demon> surfzoid: Why would you have to upgrade your OS to upgrade mediawiki?
19:33 < surfzoid> because i prefer keep mandriva packaging policy
19:33 < surfzoid> and use mandriva RPM
19:33 < ^demon> Ew mediawiki packages :(
19:34  * charitwo wants 1.16 stable
19:34 < surfzoid> Bye everyone, see you tomorow :-)
19:35 < CIA-81> ialex * r58029 /trunk/ (7 files in 6 dirs): svn:eol-style native
19:35 < ^demon> charitwo: 1.16 stable means we branch at a fairly stable point
19:35 < Platonides> surfzoid, doesn't look bad
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19:35  * ^demon hasn't seen trunk stable in a lonnnnngggggg time :)
19:35 < charitwo> hmph
19:35 < ialex> ^demon: +1 :)
19:35 < charitwo> get crackin
19:36 < Platonides> 1.16 will probably be a bit instable
19:36 < ^demon> s/a bit//
19:36 < ialex> :D
19:37 < ^demon> 1.16 - the version you probably shouldn't use :D
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19:37 < ialex> lot of new features, lot of bugs :D
19:37 < Nikerabbit> who wants to revert r58023
19:38 < Platonides> and no brion making thousands of reverts on the code xD
19:38 < wikibugs> (mod) 1.12 (and up) upload fails on Windows Server - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14213  (mr-smoke)
19:38 < ^demon> Nikerabbit: male already got fixed.
19:38 < Platonides> there's no default gender
19:38 < ^demon> Platonides: We could just revert to 1.15 and try again :)
19:39  * Platonides couldn't work with 1.15, too old
19:39 < Nikerabbit> ^demon: that's  not the issue
19:39 < ^demon> Nikerabbit: yes I see now
19:39 < Platonides> I start using code only available in trunk :)
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19:39 < ^demon> Platonides: Or maybe post-1.15 but before we merged 3 branches :p
19:41 < ^demon> What we really need is a freeze on new features to trunk, focus on bugfixing and cleanup
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19:48 < CIA-81> maxsem * r58030 /trunk/phase3/maintenance/sqlite/archives/initial-indexes.sql: SQLite updater: don't keep the old tables hanging around renamed after creating indexes, we explicitly tell people to backup before upgrading:D
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20:01 < MaxSem> just a quick check: there should be 45 tables, right? :P
20:02 < ^demon> I believe so.
20:02 < ^demon> +1 for profiling
20:02 < ^demon> And the parsertest results one
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20:03 < ^demon> Both optional, though
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20:09 < paolob_> Hi guys! How can I see some page's "non-recent changes"? I.e.: is there a way to see all pages' modification of some arbitrary date?
20:09 < CIA-81> catrope * r58032 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/UsabilityInitiative.hooks.php: Fix stupid typo in r57985
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20:15 < MaxSem> paolob_, there are links at the top and bottom of each history page
20:15 < MaxSem> (latest | earliest) View (newer 50  | older 50) (20 | 50 | 100 | 250 | 500)
20:15 < paolob_> MaxSem, ok, and if I want to see all pages's changes, like those that "recent changes" presents?
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20:16 < MaxSem> the limit (not present in links though) is 5000 changes. otherwise you could put some strain on your database
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20:19 < paolob_> MaxSem, and what about permitting the user to see some 50/100/... changes since a given date? isn't it implemented?
20:19 < MaxSem> no
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20:21 < OverlordQ> you can still plug in an arbitrary timestamp as an offset afaik
20:21 < MaxSem> hmm, right: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Bugs&action=history&offset=200800000000
20:21 < MaxSem> bah
20:22 < MaxSem> From year (and earlier):  From month (and earlier):
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20:22 < MaxSem> got so used to it that forgot about it:D
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20:25 < Natalie> werdna: Are you still working on the LQT layout?
20:26 < Natalie> http://myrandomnode.dyndns.org:8080/~gmaxwell/LQT-how-it-should-be.png is pretty hot...
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20:29 < scooby2> stupid question. Is there a way to change the headline of Main_Page to say something other than "Main Page" or do I need to rename it?
20:29 < ^demon> !mainpage
20:29 < mwbot> To change which page is the "main page" of your wiki, edit MediaWiki:Mainpage. 
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20:29 < scooby2> thank you
20:30 < ^demon> You're welcome.
20:30 < Natalie> You'll also need to move the page.
20:30 < Natalie> &action=edit&section=new really shouldn't break with LQT...
20:30 < Natalie> There needs to be some b/c there for scripts that use, e.g., the API to post user talk messages.
20:31 < scooby2> ^demon: stupid question #2. I'm logged in as WikiSysop but there is no edit tab.
20:31 < Natalie> I ran into this yesterday on strategy.wm.o where some pages use LQT and others don't.
20:31 < Natalie> Pulling the page text and regexing it is a bit nasty. 
20:31 < Natalie> werdna: ^
20:31 < scooby2> ^demon: ignore that
20:32 < ^demon> werdna: So I mapped the hotel, its like 4ish km southeast from the eiffel tower.
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20:34 < MaxSem> ^demon, would it be ok if I made doMaintenance set exit status in case of problems?
20:34 < ^demon> Couldn't hurt, I guess.
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20:40 < achiang> hi, is there a best practice for translations? i'm not talking about using mediawiki itself in a different language, but rather, say i have page Foo in English, i also want to have Foo in Czech, for example
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20:46 < Platonides> you can use different pages in the same wiki, perhaps with a trailing /lang name
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20:46 < Platonides> or you can a wiki for each different language
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20:47 < achiang> i think this page is getting me closer to what i want, no? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Languages
20:47 < CIA-81> maxsem * r58033 /trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Set a nonzero exit status in case of maintenance script failure
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20:51 < achiang> ah, it seems i should create a subpage and then use the language template
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21:00 < CIA-81> raymond * r58034 /trunk/ (58 files in 26 dirs): Localisation updates for core and extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-10-21 18:00 UTC)
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21:07 < wikibugs> (DUP) Common watchlists - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21223  +comment (innocentkiller)
21:07 < wikibugs> (mod) public and private watchlists - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7467  +comment (innocentkiller)
21:08 < aude> in MessagesEn.php, it says for activeusers-summary , " do not translate or duplicate this message to other languages", can someone explain why?
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21:08 < Brack10> Hi
21:09 < Brack10> is it possible to put two tables next to eachother? Mine show up below eachother
21:09 < ^demon|meeting> aude: typically those summary things we leave blank.
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21:11 < aude> i'm looking at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19319, where it's requested to use it to describe the page
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21:11 < ^demon|meeting> aude: can't sites can customize it if they want?
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21:13 < wikibugs> (mod) PHP warning on Saving Page Edit (MySQL result sets not freed) - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21099  +comment (innocentkiller)
21:14 < Raymond_> aude, ^demon|meeting: I like a short summary per special page. the empty xxx-summary are .--- hmmm ... silly
21:14  * ^demon|meeting shrugs
21:14 < ^demon|meeting> I don't really care one way or the other.
21:15 < Raymond_> aude, ^demon|meeting : but sometimes there is another message used instead of the -summary for historic reasons
21:15 < aude> ^demon|meeting in this case, the message would need to know the wgRCMaxAge and translate to # of days
21:16 < ^demon|meeting> Again, I don't really care :) Do whatever with it.
21:16 < aude> i'm just figuring things out :)
21:16 < ^demon|meeting> Change it to "These are active wiki editors with no life" ;-)
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21:16 < aude> there doesn't seem to be a way to pass in a variable to the summary message, since that comes from outputHeaders()
21:17 < aude> :)
21:17 < aude> so, i could put different message, and not use summary
21:18 < ^demon|meeting> Or you could make outputHeaders() more versatile.
21:19 < aude> that's true
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21:27 < wikibugs> (mod) Using of 'Media:' breaks file links - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19944  (innocentkiller)
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21:30 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Remove Brion as point of contact from various services - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21237  +comment (innocentkiller)
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21:38 < CIA-81> aude * r58035 /trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 4 dirs): * (bug 19319) Add activeusers-intro message at top of SpecialActiveUsers page
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21:39  * ^demon|meeting stabs aude
21:39 < ^demon|meeting> We already have an intro/summary message.
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21:40 < aude> outputheaders is noted in my todo list
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21:40 < ^demon|meeting> Then wait til that gets fixed. No need to add this extra message.
21:41 < aude> it already has one optional argument, so would have two optional arguments 
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21:43 < ^demon|meeting> aude: I still say fix outputHeaders(), rather than adding /yet another/ redundant message.
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21:47 < wikibugs> (mod) split error "customcssjsprotected" of api - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21107  summary; +comment (umherirrender_de.wp)
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21:50 < ^demon> werdna: I had something I was going to ask you...
21:51 < ^demon> Trying to remember wtf it was.
21:51 < werdna> ^demon: paris? liquidthreads?
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21:51 < Brack10> Hi
21:52 < Brack10> I want to use the "ambox" template on my wiki.  When I copy the code to my own page called Template:Ambox -it doesn't even come close to working.  What am I doing wrong?
21:52 < ^demon> werdna: Neither :p
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21:55 < wikibugs> (mod) Datetime - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21227  (ulli_757)
21:56 < werdna> ^demon: you wanted to ask me out?
21:56 < ^demon> ah yes, that must've been it :p
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21:56 < Marco27> Brack10: Try to add this to your [[MediaWiki:Common.css]]: http://dpaste.org/ww0M/
21:57 < ^demon> Seeing as neither of us is single, its the most obvious thing I woudlve asked.
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22:00 < CIA-81> raymond * r58036 /trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
22:00 < CIA-81> Fix for r58035: PLURAL needs wfMsgExt with 'parsemag' option
22:00 < CIA-81> 'activeusers-summary' is still a valid message.
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22:04 < baleew> Hi All! Urgently needed technical support (for novice) to install MediaWiki. Why not work {{# if}} in templates? Extension ParserFunction installed, returns error "Magic word 'if' not found"
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22:07 < johnsoga> Hello all, the database I was using for my wiki got deleted and I don't have a copy of the database, how do I restore my wiki?  Are wiki pages stored in the database?
22:09 < ^demon> Yes
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22:10 < ialex> Raymond_: wouldn't parseinline be better than parsemag for 'activeusers-intro'?
22:10 < johnsoga> ^demon: so all of my pages are gone?
22:11 < ^demon> johnsoga: If your database is gone and you have no backup, then yes.
22:11 < johnsoga> ^demon: well sh*t, thanks for the info, that is what I needed
22:12 < Raymond_> ialex: maybe. 
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22:13 < ^demon> ialex: I don't like the new msg.
22:13 < Raymond_> ialex: why do we have 'parsemag' when people like 'parse/parseinline' more?
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22:15 < ialex> Raymond_: when the message should be escaped rather than parsed
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22:18 < bawolff> Shouldn't http://en.wiktionary.org/w/api.php?action=parse&prop=text&format=xml&page=]] give an invalid title error instead of a missing page error?
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22:22 < Platonides> !parserfunctions |baleew
22:22 < mwbot> "Parser functions" are a way to extend the wiki syntax. ParserFunctions is an extension that provides the basic set of parser functions (you have to install it separately!).  For help using parser functions, please see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Parser_functions>. For details about the extension, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions>.
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22:27 < Stummi> can sb say me, whats wrong with this communication? http://nopaste.org/p/a8mseRcNY
22:27 < Platonides> the Expect: 100-Continue
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22:28 < Platonides> look at the mailing list archives
22:28 < Stummi> doesn't the mediawiki support that?
22:28 < Platonides> don't remember the reason
22:28 < Platonides> maybe it was a problem with squid
22:28 < Stummi> ok
22:28 < ialex> the problem is with squid iirc
22:28 < ialex> yeah :)
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22:29 < Stummi> off-topic question: Does somebody know how to say the apache-http-client to use not this expection-way? ;p
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22:30 < Platonides> maybe it was explained in the thread..
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22:31 < Stummi> ok, i will look there. thanks
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22:32 < baleew> mwbot: I installed ParserFunctions, without this there is no error, simply displays the text ((# if ... )). extension returns an error: Magic word 'if' not found
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22:34 < Platonides> {{#if: content | foo | bar }}
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22:48 < baleew> \u0432\u0441\u0435\u043c \u0441\u043f\u0430\u0441\u0438\u0431\u043e! \u044f \u0443\u0436\u0435 \u0440\u0435\u0448\u0438\u043b \u044d\u0442\u0443 \u043f\u0440\u043e\u0431\u043b\u0435\u043c\u0443.
22:48 < baleew> Thank you all!
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22:53 < Brack10> So is there any way to get all of the neat templates from wikipedia into my mediawiki?
22:53 < Brack10> I can't seem to figure out how to copy them over
22:53 < Brack10> also, I've found several other mediawikis that have them built in
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22:55 < Brack10> all wikimedia sites have them
22:55 < Platonides> wrong
22:55 < Platonides> they don't have the same templates
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22:55 < Platonides> and others were manually copied
22:56 < Platonides> Special:Export can easy your work, though
22:56 < Brack10> ok
22:56 < Brack10> Thanks
22:56 < Brack10> what does it mean to 'expand' a template?
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23:02 < wikibugs> (mod) GIF scaling limit should be applied to animated GIFs only - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16451  high->normal; +comment (Jaroslaw.W.Tuszynski)
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23:02 < Brack10> wow that so didn't work
23:03 < akozak> Brack10: why not just copy-paste the templates you want?
23:04 < Brack10> akozak: I tried that and it gives me garble code on my page
23:04 < Brack10> like for instance I'm trying to use ambox
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23:05 < akozak> Brack10: do you have the ParserFunctions extension installed? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions
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23:05 < Kanedauy> hello
23:06 < Brack10> akozak: I guess not, this is what shows up {{#switch: | left =  
23:06 < Brack10> a bunch of that stuff
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23:06 < akozak> yea
23:06 < akozak> those are parsers contained in parserExtensions
23:06 < akozak> you need that extension for that template to work
23:06 < Kanedauy> Im habing a problem creatin a java code block, it separates the code when is a empty line and don't highlight
23:06 < Brack10> akozak: thanks
23:06 < akozak> Brack10: np
23:07 < Kanedauy> can somebody help me ^_^
23:08 < Brack10> Kanedauy: Only on java or other langs too?
23:08 < Kanedauy> any cos, I put the <code> sfskfjlsfjsl </code> and does the same without the attribute lang
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23:10 < Brack10> not sure
23:11 < Brack10> akozak: what do you know, it worked! thanks
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23:11 < akozak> :)
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23:12 < akozak> Kanedauy: try <pre> </pre>
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23:13 < Kanedauy> exelent!
23:13 < Kanedauy> Brack10 thanks
23:13 < Kanedauy> pre have any highlight for code?
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23:13 < akozak> I don't know, sorry.
23:13 < Brack10> Kanedauy: I didn't help you, akozak did
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23:14 < Brack10> another question
23:14 < Kanedauy> true, thanks akozak
23:14 < Brack10> can I have two thumbnailed images inline with eachother instead of aligning them to one side?
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23:15 < Brack10> as if you just did two standard <img> tags
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23:15 < akozak> Brack10: Check http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images, there's probably an example there
23:16 < akozak> I'm guessing [[File:{image_name}|left]]
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23:16 < akozak> Brack10: you could also use divs
23:17 < Brack10> you set alignment to none apparently
23:17 < akozak> ah
23:17 < Brack10> but then they each take up a whole row
23:17 < akozak> sorry, don't know off the top of my head
23:17 < Brack10> yeah because it creates a div for each one with 100% width
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23:19 < jimt> Is there an English language FAQ explaining how Mediawiki works with right-to-left languages?  Just typing the [[]] brackets is confusing to me.
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23:28 < Platonides> the problem is, they are shown as in a mirror
23:28 < Platonides> but that's an issue of the browser
23:29 < Platonides> you write them in order
23:29 < Platonides> you can try typing without looking at the keyboard
23:29 < Platonides> or write them somewhere else, then paste
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23:32 < jimt> The position of the trailing '.' in an English sentence is also a bit weird.
23:32 < jimt> (And I see some of my extensions don't seem to play nicely... like the Book/Collection one that says "articles 2" instead of "2 articles")
23:33 < jimt> (Although I suppose when it gets translated that will go away.)
23:36 < Platonides> a translation would take care of it, i think
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23:43 < CIA-81> siebrand * r58037 /trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Revert r58033. This change made all command line scripts of the Translate extension (scripts/ subfolder) exit without any information or without doing anything.
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23:49 < CIA-81> aaron * r58038 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/ReaderFeedback/language/ReaderFeedback.i18n.php: Merged localization updates (special page group message was missing)
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