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00:37 < dergringo> How can I display all articles in category "Cat" inside the Article "Art"? {{Category:Cat}} does not work 
00:38 < Amgine> [[mediawiki:Extensions:DynamicPageList (Wikimedia)]]
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00:54 < Rgoodermote> Question, anyone know a rewrite trick that will make a special page appear without the Special: Prefix?
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00:54 < Rgoodermote> Like example.com/version
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00:54 < wikibugs> (mod) Monospace/preformatted text has gotten much smaller in Vector (code, tt, pre) - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20706  (ngautam)
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00:59 < Rgoodermote> If you are wondering why I'd want to...I like consistancy.
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01:15 < OverlordQ> wouldn't that be breaking consistency?
01:15 < OverlordQ> oh wait he left
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01:25 < CIA-81> tstarling * r58072 /trunk/extensions/TrustedXFF/trusted-hosts.txt: Added Bolt Browser
01:26 < CIA-81> tstarling * r58073 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/TrustedXFF/ (. trusted-hosts.txt): Merged r58072 (Bolt Browser)
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01:30 < Matthew> hullo
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01:30 < Guest18747> I have a quick question if anyone has a moment..
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01:33 < CIA-81> tstarling * r58074 /trunk/extensions/TrustedXFF/trusted-hosts.txt: Too many meetings and not enough sleep...
01:33 < CIA-81> tstarling * r58075 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/TrustedXFF/ (. trusted-hosts.txt): Merged 58074.
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01:38 < Rgoodermote> Alright, after a lot of research..I can say I really don't know what I'm doing and would like direction, I want to make example.com/specia:version to look like example.com/version for consistancy's sake.
01:38 < Rgoodermote> A rewrite rule is needed.
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01:39 < CIA-81> tstarling * r58076 /trunk/extensions/TrustedXFF/trusted-hosts.txt: More bolt browser
01:39 < CIA-81> tstarling * r58077 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/TrustedXFF/trusted-hosts.txt: More Bolt Browser
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01:48 < OverlordQ> Rgoodermote: how would that make things consistent?
01:48 < Rgoodermote> My site is setup to look like this example.com/pagetitle
01:48 < OverlordQ> yes
01:49 < Rgoodermote> And it annoys me that special pages look like example.com/specia:specialpage  that.
01:49 < Rgoodermote> special*
01:49 < Rgoodermote> Breaks consistancy.
01:49 < Amgine> Rgoddermote: You could add a rewrite rule to remove the use of namespaces, but it will break things like User:Amgine as well.
01:49 < OverlordQ> so denoting special pages with a special prefix breaks consistency?
01:50 < Rgoodermote> OverlordQ,  every URL is /  which is nice and neat, then out of no where you get /special:   and Amgine, that's perfectly fine, do you know what the rewrite rule would look like?
01:51 < Rgoodermote> OverlordQ to me, that looks extremely ugly.
01:51 < Amgine> No, I don't. It's been rather a few years since I did anything with rewrite rules.
01:51 < Rgoodermote> Do you know who would?
01:51 < Amgine> Google.
01:52 < Rgoodermote> Always Google.
01:52 < OverlordQ> well you'd have to make a list of every special page
01:52 < Rgoodermote> No I wouldn't.
01:52 < Amgine> http://www.google.ca/search?q=how+to+write+rewrite+rules&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
01:52 < OverlordQ> and hope no normal articles conflict
01:53 < OverlordQ> why wouldn't you?
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01:53 < Amgine> He'd only need to rewrite Special:
01:53 < Rgoodermote> OverlordQ, http://www.robsden.info
01:53 < Rgoodermote> Because it's not a normal Wiki.
01:53 < OverlordQ> well is he wanting to just kill the namespace for special pages or all namespaces?
01:54 < Rgoodermote> The only ones people can see are special:
01:54 < Rgoodermote> I don't care about the other namespaces.
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01:55 < OverlordQ> make a list of special pages, rewrite, done
01:56 < OverlordQ> and optionally hope you dont have any conflicts
01:56 < Rgoodermote> OverlordQ, you didn't look at my website did you? It's....not really Mediawiki anymore.
01:56 < Rgoodermote> And it will not conflict with any pages at all.
01:57 < OverlordQ> it may not not but will it always?
01:57 < OverlordQ> *now
01:57 < Rgoodermote> Yes, it always will be, the pages I needed have been created.
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01:58 < OverlordQ> and yes I did look at the site
01:59 < Rgoodermote> I will have no conflicts with any existing pages, if I did, I've have not wanted to remove the special: prefix.
01:59 < Rgoodermote> I'd*
01:59 < Amgine> <meta name="generator" content="MediaWiki 1.15.1" />
02:01 < Amgine> Interesting. Why not just use a cms like Drupal?
02:01 < OverlordQ> http://www.robsden.info/Special:SpecialPages gather a list, make the rule check to see if the URL is any of those names, prepend Special: then pass it on
02:01 < Rgoodermote> ......I didn't say it wasn't Mediawiki, it's barely Mediawiki.
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02:03 < Rgoodermote> And the changes will make me not want to update any time in the future.
02:03 < Rgoodermote> And I'm kind of geting confused OverlordQ, I'm crashing from an energy drink.
02:04 < OverlordQ> that's a list of all the special pages
02:04 < OverlordQ> the rule will kinda need to know if /foo /bar /baz /ListUsers is (supposed) to be a special page so it'll likely need a list to check against
02:04 < Amgine> I don't think you need to worry about it. No one who is not logged in can see the special pages, so you don't really need to rewrite rule protect them.
02:05 < OverlordQ> looking at a random selection you can still view some of them
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02:06 < Rgoodermote> Amgine: There are a few open. 
02:06 < Danwe> hi
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02:06 < Rgoodermote> The ones I am concerned about are Special:Contact and Special:Guestbook.
02:07 < Amgine> <doesn't feel like trying to find them> But I expect there's a user permissions rule that can make all special pages unavailable to anon users.
02:07 < Amgine> And since you have registration restricted, that means everyonw.
02:07 < Danwe> is it possible somehow to check whether the parser is parsing the article code or something else at the moment?
02:07 < OverlordQ> well yes
02:07 < Rgoodermote> Amgine: I actually want SOME of the SpecialPages open.
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02:08 < Rgoodermote> But for those that anons are allowed to see, I want consistancy...the others...well their collaterol and not really high priority.
02:09 < Rgoodermote> And the fact that you can see Specialpages is rather surprising...
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02:10 < Amgine> <shrug> I have no idea how to help you. You want to make them selectively unavailable. The best way to do that is figure out how to make a special rule that covers them from inside Mediawiki.
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02:12 < Amgine> ttfn
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02:13 < Rgoodermote> There we go, sorry, I'd like anons to not see Specialpages.
02:14 < Rgoodermote> And I think I'm going to sleep now, thanks for trying to help, OverlordQ, your suggestion is the best one so I'll look intot hat.
02:14 < Rgoodermote> that*
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02:14 < OverlordQ> a suggestion, probably not the best :)
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02:37 < ^demon>  <Amgine> <doesn't feel like trying to find them> But I expect there's a user permissions rule that can make all special pages unavailable to anon users. <- No, there's not.
02:40 < wikibugs> (NEW) Special:Upload new image to replace an existing images creates new - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21259 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (tekmosis)
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02:49 < wikibugs> (mod) "Try Beta" still appears while using Monobook theme in WP, as opposed to "Leave Beta" - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21244  (dasmart1)
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03:17 < Iimitk> why the manual instructs users to chmod LocalSettings.php to 600 after installation is complete?!!
03:17 < p858snake> security
03:18 < Iimitk> 600? that would lead to the whole site unaccessible and would produce fatal errors right away
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03:19 < Iimitk> the outside world should have read access to the file
03:20 < p858snake> no, only the apache and php user needs it
03:20 < p858snake> you don't want the outside world to read it because it has your database details in it
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03:22 < Iimitk> reading in that sense actually means accessing not reading. mediawiki already does not allow direct access of scripts, only thru index.php
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03:23 < Iimitk> and it's the web server's duty not to allow full exposure of php or other code files
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03:23 < Iimitk> can anyone here confirm this? LocalSettings.php should never be chmod'ed to 600 actually. 644 should suffice
03:24 < Mike_lifeguard> Why do I get the impression you don't care what other people say?
03:25 < Iimitk> your impression is wrong
03:25 < p858snake> all apache does is "oh, you want X.X on this server" "this file is chmoded to XXX" "there you go OR no i can't let you do that" and its all based on the chmod masks
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03:26 < p858snake> mediawiki can only restrict what you access though it, it can't deny direct access to the files
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03:28 < Iimitk> p858snake: then help me understand this. i have mediawiki up & running on a vps.
03:29 < Iimitk> the localsettings.php masks are as follows:
03:29 < Iimitk> -rw-r--r--  1 iimitk users   4328 Oct  3 19:28 LocalSettings.php
03:30 < Iimitk> it works fine. when i change the modes to 600, the whole site becomes inaccessible
03:31 < Iimitk> Warning: require_once(/home/iimitk/public_html/example.com/public/w/LocalSettings.php) [function.require-once]: failed to open stream: Permission denied in /home/iimitk/public_html/wikiazza.com/public/w/includes/WebStart.php on line 113
03:31 < |pez|> I'll bet the owner of the file is wrong.
03:32 < Iimitk> pez: how?
03:32 < |pez|> Lemme just try something reaaalquick
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03:34 < |pez|> Iimitk: Who is listed as the owner of your LocalSetting.php gile?
03:34 < |pez|> file*
03:35 < Iimitk> owner: iimitk, group: users
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03:35 < |pez|> and, what user is your apache server running as?
03:35 < Iimitk> iimitk
03:35 < |pez|> I somehow doubt that.
03:36 < |pez|> try giving owner permissions to www-data on your LocalSettings.php file.
03:36 < Iimitk> i somehow quite sure of that
03:36 < Iimitk> okay, a sec
03:37 < |pez|> then, chmod the file to 0600
03:37 < Iimitk> done
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03:38 < |pez|> try loading your site now.
03:38 < Iimitk> working
03:39 < |pez|> See, wrong owner of the file.
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03:40 < |pez|> Because apache isn't running as the user "Iimitk"
03:40 < Iimitk> i'm quite sure it wasn't set wrongly, unless the terminal does some caching
03:40 < Iimitk> no, there's only one user of the web server, iimitk
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03:41 < |pez|> apache makes its own user. :P
03:41 < |pez|> or something
03:41 < Iimitk> so i'm sure it's the only user running
03:41 < Iimitk> i dunno
03:41 < |pez|> What OS are you running?
03:41 < Iimitk> ubuntu
03:41 < |pez|> If there was no user named www-data, you probably would not have been able to give it ownerpermissions to a file.
03:42 < Iimitk> this user and its group is set by apache, as you might already know :)
03:42 < Iimitk> i mean www-data:www-data
03:43 < |pez|> It's the default user and group for apache yes.
03:43 < |pez|> and, it doesn't seem you've changed the user apache runs as.
03:43 < |pez|> Since 0600 on the file works when the owner is www-data
03:44 < Iimitk> oh, i used sudo, which eventually makes me the root user
03:44 < Iimitk> trying to set permissions without sudo didn't work
03:45 < |pez|> I let MediaWiki create the LocalSettings.php file on its own, and it got www-data as its owner.
03:45 < Iimitk> i can't recall that..
03:46 < |pez|> Then you did it differently than me.
03:47 < Iimitk> since localsettings.php is created by mediawiki then surely it does the same for everybody :)
03:48 < |pez|> Then why did your file get the wrong file owner?
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03:49 < |pez|> In any case.
03:49 < |pez|> it works now. :P
03:49 < |pez|> So there's nothing wrong with suggesting people to chmod the file to 0600
03:50 < Iimitk> sure. i didn't came up with a firm no for doing this. was trying to understand
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03:51 < |pez|> Also, you're welcome. ;P
03:52 < Iimitk> Thank you. :-)
03:52 < |pez|> ;D
03:52 < |pez|> It's my first time here, and I'm already useful XD
03:53 < Iimitk> yeah, it all boils down to the attitude, i guess
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03:59 < |pez|> Personally, I'm wanting to adjust the layout of MediaWiki, but I'm too tired to actually follow a explenation now, so I'll ask later.
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04:03 < Iimitk> |pez|: that depends on what you're trying to adjust 
04:03 < |pez|> Iimitk: html stuff. :P I want to rearrange it, and out new elements in.
04:04 < |pez|> Right now, I want to do stuff with the header.
04:04 < |pez|> like put a image inside the <h1> and just remove the descriptionything
04:06 < Iimitk> well, first you should do any editing on Mediawiki:Common.css and make use of all the versioning goodies
04:07 < |pez|> What I want to do is not css related.
04:08 < |pez|> But, as I said, I'm too tired to follow instructions right now. So I'll just head off to sleep :D
04:08 < |pez|> Thanks ^^
04:08 < Iimitk> You're welcome, and have a good sleep. :)
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05:36 < Rgoodermote> OverlordQ, I thought I'd give you an update...I failed rewrite, I failed at making an extension and I need more nots on how WebRequest.php handles the commands for wgActionPaths and wgArticlePath.
05:36 < Rgoodermote> notes*
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05:50 < wikibugs> (mod) HideUser : Transaction "bounces" but show as successful - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21096  +comment (JSchulz_4587)
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06:02 < CIA-81> * Don't use existing block values on "already blocked" form on submission
06:02 < CIA-81> * Code style cleanups
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06:36 < CIA-81> mrzman * r58079 /trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 4 dirs): 
06:36 < CIA-81> (bug 18019) Warn users when moving a file to a name in use on a shared repo.
06:36 < CIA-81> Allow only users with the 'reupload-shared' right to complete the move.
06:37 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Warning when moving to a filename that is in use in the shared repository. - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18019  +comment (mrzmanwiki)
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06:44 < charitwo> dead hookers can't donkey punch
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07:29 < navap> Is there anything wrong with this syntax? [[Image:WikiDocs_System_v1.png|frame|200px]] 
07:30 < navap> The image shows up in a frame, but at it's full size.
07:32 < navap> Using thumb displays too small of a picture, but specifying a size does nothing to make it enlarge.
07:33 < OverlordQ> try px then frame
07:33 < navap> I've tried, same result.
07:35 < OverlordQ> "frameA large clock tower and other buildings line a great river.The Palace of WestminsterWith this option, the embedded image is shown with its actual size enclosed by a frame, regardless of the "thumb" or "size" attribute"
07:35 < OverlordQ> oops, ignore the clock tower part :)
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07:37 < navap> Nevermind I got it to work using thumb, apparently I an't tell the difference between 200px width and the width that's used with 'thumb'. :/
07:37 < navap> s/an't/can't
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08:31 < GerardM-> anyone who can check things on the servers?
08:43 < Natalie> Just ask.
08:43 < Natalie> Also, #mediawiki doesn't really have servers.
08:58 < wikibugs> (NEW) Is LocalisationUpdate running every day - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21260 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (Gerard.meijssen)
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10:39 < CIA-81> rotem * r58081 /trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 
10:39 < CIA-81> * Localization update for he.
10:39 < CIA-81> * Fixing message order in Special:ActiveUsers to make sense.
10:39 < CIA-81> * Adding space to header in 'move-over-sharedrepo'.
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10:53 < wikibugs> (mod) 1052 Database error - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21258  (harmageddon95)
10:57 < wikibugs> (INVALID) 1052 Database error - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21258  +comment (JSchulz_4587)
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11:10 < CIA-81> Localisation updates for core messages from translatewiki.net
11:10 < CIA-81> * Follow up to r1284: finally add some translations for Hausa (yay!)
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11:13 < malgon> hi
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11:16 < CIA-81> siebrand * r58083 /trunk/extensions/Translate/scripts/languageeditstats.php: Fix fatal
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11:17 < CIA-81> siebrand * r58084 /trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (20 files): Rebuild messages files (follow-up to r58081)
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11:28 < Harmageddon> How can I add a tab like "edit" and "history" on top of each page in my wiki?
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11:28 < CIA-81> siebrand * r58085 /trunk/extensions/Translate/check-blacklist.php: Update check blacklist
11:29 < p858snake> do you mean a extra tab or the edit/history tabs?
11:30 < Harmageddon> an extra tab
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11:55 < Harmageddon> I've found this one: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicTabs
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11:57 < Harmageddon> but I'd like this tab to link to an url with the name of the current page inside
11:57 < Harmageddon> Do you know how to do this?
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11:58 < p858snake> nope
12:01 < ans-tot1222> http://toolserver.org/~amidaniel/chanlogs/%23mediawiki/20091023.txt <-- its mime-type is text/plain, but why firefox try to open it using external app?
12:01 < Alphos> Harmageddon you could look this js code : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-GoogleSearch.js
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12:04 < hippietrail> is there an api.php call that returns the same as "Did you mean?" for failed searches?
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12:10 < Harmageddon> Alphos: This is not the thing I'm searching for
12:11 < hippietrail> action=query&list=search returns double-encoded utf-8!
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12:18 < Alphos> Harmageddon : it adds a tab on top of each page
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12:46 < Harmageddon> Alphos: No, it adds a button below the search-form
12:46 < Alphos> hm, not the one i was looking for
12:47 < Harmageddon> must go now
12:47 < Harmageddon> cu
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12:47 < Alphos> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-OngletGoogle.js this one
12:56 < WaterRatj> how come [[image|link=ddf|caption]] does't work? link works but shows page name if you hover over it instead of caption
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13:07 < WaterRatj> Anyone?
13:09 < hippietrail> anyone know what we do about live mirroring currently?
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13:16 < OverlordQ> shake an angry fist at them
13:20 < hippietrail> can we also add a menacing "grrr"?
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13:25 < wikibugs> (NEW) MediaWiki cannot convert urls pointing to ipv6 host to links automatically - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21261 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (liangent)
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13:27 < wikibugs> (mod) MediaWiki cannot convert urls pointing to ipv6 host to links automatically - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21261   +parser (xu.jimmy.wrk)
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13:49 < zrh> Question: How can I limit MW feeds to RSS only?
13:50 < CIA-81> ialex * r58086 /trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiQueryDeletedrevs.php): * (bug 21085) list=deletedrevs no longer returns only one revision when drcontinue param is passed
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13:51 < ialex> zrh: unset( $wgFeedClasses['atom'] );
13:51 < zrh> ialex: Thanks
13:52 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Deleted Revisions dump only one result when drcontinue set - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21085  +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
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14:06 < WaterRatj> how come [[image|link=ddf|caption]] does't work? link works but shows page name if you hover over it instead of caption
14:20 < WaterRatj> Anyone a clue?
14:20 < wikibugs> (mod) On edit page for non-existant article, display an input box for creating a redirect - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=246  low->normal (alex.emsenhuber)
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15:11 < wikibugs> (mod) Double-underscore magic words interpreted in links - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13164  (alex.emsenhuber)
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15:47 < CIA-81> ialex * r58087 /trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): * (bug 3480) MediaWiki:Historywarning now has a parameter that contains the number of revisions in the history
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15:49 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Show *how many* prior revisions exist when deleting an article - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3480  +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
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16:26 < Danwe> hi
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16:27 < Danwe> I have a problem with the "ParserBeforeStrip" hook. I'd like to add some text to the raw Article code so I do that with changing the text variable within the hook call. But this changes as well the text of each UI element because the hook is called not only for the article text but also for UI stuff of MW
16:28 < Danwe> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki_hooks/ParserBeforeStrip
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16:29 < Danwe> I tried out the solution of "HappyDog" but this is useless (as I descrbed on the page above^^) because it won't be called after editing the page only after the first purge
16:30 < Danwe> Any ideas how I can add some text to the raw Article code only??
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16:40 < Danwe> perhaps there is a way to get the information from the parser object whether this is the main article text or not???
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16:56 < CIA-81> raymond * r58088 /trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: 
16:56 < CIA-81> Follow-up r58087: formatNum the number of revisions
16:56 < CIA-81> * Add a CSS class
16:56 < CIA-81> * Break long line
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17:02 < Danwe> so I just solved my problem with a pretty ugly hack :-| 
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17:04 < Danwe> 1. defining a variable with variable extension within all templates which should lead to expanding the wiki code in the end.  2. Calling my wiki template at the end of the article per ParserBeforeStrip hook.  3. Checking if the Variable is set and if it is the case doing all the stuff I'd like to do there.  4. Set the variable value to "". so the inner template code won't be called in all the UI elements
17:08 < CIA-81> werdna * r58089 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (6 files in 4 dirs): LiquidThreads: Start to a "Hot Topics" special page, which shows the most actively posted-to threads for the last 10k posts/7 days (whichever is shorter).
17:09 < wikibugs> (mod) "name" attributes get removed by server - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17874  +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
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17:12 < Tuxedo_> I am doing a fresh 1.15.1 installation which will be a wiki-family, and so I'd like to have separate sub-folders folders for each wiki within the images folder. I'd also like to keep directoly within each folder, rather than in images/myFirstWiki/ab/foo.jpg etc., simply because I think it's clearer. This is my set-up:
17:12 < Tuxedo_> $wgHashedUploadDirectory = false;
17:12 < Tuxedo_> $wgHashedSharedUploadDirectory = false;
17:12 < Tuxedo_> $wgUploadDirectory = "{$IP}/images/first_wiki";
17:12 < Tuxedo_> $wgUploadPath = "/images/first_wiki";
17:14 < Tuxedo_> Are there any disadvantages with this approach, or is it for some reason better to use the default  /images/first_wiki/a/ab/foo.jpg etc.?
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17:17 < Tuxedo_> For example, I read in DefaultSettings.php concernign safe mode and $wgHashedUploadDirectory = false; 
17:17 < Tuxedo_> If this setting is false, does that make the system automatically run under safe mode? I don't really understand exactly what it means but I also read at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Safe_mode doesn't appear to be a good idea.
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17:19 < wikibugs> (mod) Common watchlists - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21223  (cenarium.sysop)
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17:29 < Tuxedo_> Also, is creating a writable temp directory necessary when $wgHashedUploadDirectory is set to false?
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17:31 < freakolowsky> sup ladies
17:31 < freakolowsky> anyone here had any problems running MW on PHP 5.3.0?
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18:02 < Danwe> Do I have to activate the user/monobook.css first somehow before it's working in my wiki?
18:07 < wikibugs> (NEW) Set q:sk: logo - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21262 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (danny.b)
18:07 < Beau_> $wgAllowUserCss
18:09 < Danwe> thank you Beau_ :D
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18:13 < wikibugs> (mod) Adding talk page to watchlist displays same message as watching content page - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11665  (alex.emsenhuber)
18:14 < ialex> freakolowsky: should work fine since 1.14-1.15
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18:18 < freakolowsky> ialex : #FAIL!
18:18 < ialex> freakolowsky: what is the problem?
18:19 < freakolowsky> file_exists returns null for symlinks ... probabbly not MW issue ... well surely not MW issue but an issue after all
18:19 < freakolowsky> downgrading to 5.2.11 atm
18:19 < DavidCOG> Hi. Could anyone give me an indication of the state of the nightly dump? Is it alpha, beta or RC quality? Good enough to use on a new project? Is it likely to be easy to upgrade to the final release? Thanks.
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18:21 < wikibugs> (NEW) Special:Revisiondelete: Show link to edit the dropdown reasons only if user can submit - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21263 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Revision deletion; (umherirrender_de.wp)
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18:22 < ialex> freakolowsky: seems to be more a PHP bug, the only thing I see in the manual is "Note: This function will return FALSE for symlinks pointing to non-existing files. "
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18:25 < freakolowsky> well the files do exist ... but i think it's an issue of 5.3.0 which removes safe_mode flag which file_exists relies on ... so i guess fot the moment i'll go back to latest stable 5.2.
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18:27 < wikibugs> (NEW) Special:Revisiondelete: show hint to policy only if user can submit - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21264 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Revision deletion; (umherirrender_de.wp)
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18:33 < wikibugs> (NEW) Special:Revisiondelete: unlink perma- and difflink, if user cannot see the content - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21265 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Revision deletion; (umherirrender_de.wp)
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18:39 < Pax-Man> Hi, I've added a new logo to my Wiki. It doesn't show up on the main page or on any other pages. However it's shows probably when I edit an article.
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18:49 < Platonides> do you have some caching layer?
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18:51 < CIA-81> rainman * r58090 /branches/lucene-search-2.1/src/org/wikimedia/lsearch/ (config/GlobalConfiguration.java search/SearchEngine.java): Make maxoffset and maxlimit for queries configurable, instead of keeping them hardcoded
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18:51 < Pax-Man> yes, and i've tried to see if its my browser only and it's not.
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18:52 < wikibugs> (NEW) Seeing the non-template links - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21266 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (hardy)
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18:52 < Majorly> ok so I got a domain name for my site...
18:52 < Majorly> but none of the images are coming up
18:52 < Majorly> anyone know what the issue might be?
18:54 < Platonides> have you copied the images/ folder?
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18:54 < Majorly> hm?
18:55 < Platonides> where is it trying to load the images from?
18:55 < Platonides> is the wiki now on a different path?
18:55 < Majorly> I haven't touched the wiki
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18:55 < Majorly> it just has a new url
18:56 < Platonides> so it was foobar.hosting.com/wiki/ and now is majorlydomain.com/wiki/ ?
18:56 < Majorly> yeah
18:56 < Platonides> perhaps the images are pointed using an url for  foobar.hosting.com/wiki/
18:57 < Majorly> how would I tell?
18:57 < Majorly> they're in the same place as before
18:57 < Orian> guys, can you please explai me how to copy a template from wikipedia to my mediawiki?
18:57 < Platonides> what's the html where the images are expected to be placed?
18:58 < Platonides> is it a public wiki?
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18:58 < DavidCOG> Hi. Could anyone give me an indication of the state of the nightly dump? Is it alpha, beta or RC quality? Good enough to use on a new project? Is it likely to be easy to upgrade to the final release? Thanks.
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19:01 < Platonides> DavidCOG, which nightly dump?
19:01 < Platonides> the one taking a svn snapshot?
19:02 < Majorly> Platonides: see pm
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19:02 < wikibugs> (DUP) Seeing the non-template links - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21266  +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
19:02 < wikibugs> (mod) "what links here" should list the template, not the pages that use it - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12396  +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
19:03 < wikibugs> (mod) "what links here" should list the template, not the pages that use it - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12396   +schema-change (alex.emsenhuber)
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19:04 < b3htf> I have a quick question
19:05 < b3htf> I wish to modify the text that is part of the login information, to change My contributions My preferences My this etc without the My
19:05 < b3htf> where would be the place to look for that?
19:05 < Platonides> Special:All messages
19:05 < Platonides> look for the messages with that text
19:05 < Platonides> you then edit them
19:05 < Platonides> they will be in the mediawiki: namespace
19:05 < b3htf> ohh ok, because I was checking MessagesEn.php and I stared to think that's the wrong file to do that in, thanks
19:07 < b3htf> hmm that's odd, it says I requested an invalid special page
19:07 < Platonides> you can edit them on the wiki :)
19:07 < Platonides> remove the space
19:07 < Platonides> Special:Allmessages
19:07 < b3htf> aha, thank you :)
19:08 < wikibugs> (mod) "what links here" should list the template, not the pages that use it - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12396  (hardy)
19:08 < Platonides> it was my fault 
19:08 < Platonides> I added an extra space
19:09 < b3htf> hmm, now I'm trying to find the value to change lol
19:10 < b3htf> oh nvm
19:10 < b3htf> personally, do you think it's a good edit? because I just thought it kind of gets redundant to see my 1 my 2 my 3 my 4
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19:11 < b3htf> especially since the way I have it layed out, as you can see: mechdb.com
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19:12 < b3htf> what do you think of that layout?
19:12 < Platonides> if users understand what it means, it's ok
19:12 < Platonides> the layout looks good
19:12 < Platonides> although I can't see that bar since i'm not logged in :)
19:13 < b3htf> thanks, I tried to make it something different from regular wiki layout
19:13 < b3htf> lol oh yeah
19:13 < b3htf> I used one of the mediawiki templates on that one site and modified it slightly
19:13 < DavidCOG> @Platonides - see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download which links to http://toolserver.org/~vvv/mw-nightly/
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19:14 < b3htf> lol problem is it's so hard to get it started
19:14 < b3htf> I've put countless hours into adding content, people liek the site, but still haven't gotten a community fo contributing people
19:15 < Platonides> Danny_B, that's taken from svn
19:16 < b3htf> ah sweet, that just made the whole thing so much cleaner, thanks Platonides 
19:20 < wikibugs> (mod) "what links here" should list the template, not the pages that use it - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12396  +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
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19:21 < wikibugs> (mod) "what links here" should list the template, not the pages that use it - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12396  (alex.emsenhuber)
19:22 < wikibugs> (mod) Monospace/preformatted text has gotten much smaller in Vector (code, tt, pre) - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20706  (dragonlordofxanther)
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19:25 < Surgo> Is there any way to get functionality in api.php for categories, like "cmfrom" or something (which doesn't exist) similar to how you can use "apfrom" when listing all pages on the wiki?
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19:34 < Amgine> What is the name template language crap that people need for their mw installations?
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19:40 < Dispenser> MediaWiki incorrectly converts external links containing %26 into &
19:40 < Dispenser> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=extlinks&titles=7th_%26_Capitol_and_8th_%26_Capitol
19:41 < Dispenser> This causes problems when parsing GeoHack's external links
19:41 < Surgo> okay, guess I'll make a patch for list=categorymembers
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19:45 < Danny_B> Platonides: ?
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20:06 < Danwe> is it possible to define how much pages are shown in a category per page?
20:11 < b3htf> is there a way I can flush the mediawiki cache or something?
20:11 < b3htf> I'm working on the main template file and it takes a while to see any updates
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20:31 < ^demon> b3htf: What cache are you using? APC/eAccel, memcache, the DB cache, file cache?
20:32 < b3htf> I'm not quite sure, I have not changed any cache settings however, so whateve ris used by default
20:32 < b3htf> and I'm running the latest stable version
20:33 < b3htf> is there some place I can check?
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20:35 < ^demon> b3htf: See what $wgMainCacheType is set to in LocalSettings.
20:36 < b3htf> $wgMainCacheType = CACHE_NONE;
20:36 < b3htf> hmm weird
20:36 < b3htf> well it still caches them
20:36 < b3htf> it takes forever to see updated versions of some pages
20:36 < b3htf> I can refresh it tons of times
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20:36 < b3htf> I just tried another browser too to make sure it's not that, and it created the same results
20:36 < wikibugs> (CLOSED) Search & replace : User cannot UNDO text replacement in Opera - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20846  +comment (wikibugs)
20:36 < ^demon> And you don't have $wgUseFileCache set to true either?
20:37 < b3htf> $wgCacheEpoch = max( $wgCacheEpoch, gmdate( 'YmdHis', @filemtime( __FILE__ ) ) );
20:37 < b3htf> I have that
20:38 < b3htf> so does it use epoch then?
20:38 < wikibugs> (CLOSED) To an external web page Link : line break is not functioning in preview - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21217  +comment (wikibugs)
20:38 < wikibugs> (CLOSED) Watch/Unwatch: Watchlist link opens a file - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21253  +comment (wikibugs)
20:39 < DavidCOG> Hi. Could anyone give me an indication of the state of the nightly dump? Is it alpha, beta or RC quality? Good enough to use on a new project? Is it likely to be easy to upgrade to the final release? See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download which links to http://toolserver.org/~vvv/mw-nightly/ Thanks.
20:39 < DavidCOG> Hi. Could anyone give me an indication of the state of the nightly dump? Is it alpha, beta or RC quality? Good enough to use on a new project? Is it likely to be easy to upgrade to the final release? See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download which links to http://toolserver.org/~vvv/mw-nightly/ Thanks.
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20:39 < DavidCOG> oops - didn't mean to double post. :)
20:39 < Rgoodermote> DavidCOG: I would not use the nightly build, it is a bit unstable.
20:40 < Rgoodermote> It's used on Mediawiki and it's related projects, but most extensions are not ready.
20:40 < Rgoodermote> So using it really is not suggested unless you don't care about having a rather limited range of extensions.
20:40 < freakolowsky> ooooooukiedokie ... i think i've got most of the things running
20:41 < uspwue> hello alll i'm running into an issue with my wiki... i can't  manage to find docs. on how to customize the search result page ? anybody knows if it's evne possible ?
20:41 < DavidCOG> Thanks, Rgoodermote. You've probably saved me a bunch of time finding that out the hard way. :) Thanks again.
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20:46 < Rgoodermote> DavidCOG: No problem, sorry it took so long to reply, phone call. If you would like to see when 1.16 is ready for release (by then it will be more stable and extensions should be able to work with it right) you can subscribe to the newsletter, which can be found here. https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-announce
20:47 < Rgoodermote> It's free, not mandatory, I'm just suggesting. 
20:47 < b3htf> hey so can any of you guys tell me how to flush the cache?
20:48 < b3htf> my cache setting seems to be disabled, but I can tell some pages are taking forever to update when I change the skin php file
20:48 < Rgoodermote> At the end of the URL, ?action=purge
20:49 < b3htf> thank you
20:49 < Rgoodermote> NP
20:49 < b3htf> that did the trick
20:50 < Rgoodermote> By the way, that function takes a lot out of a server, so it's best to take it easy with it.
20:50 < b3htf> you mean resource wise?
20:50 < b3htf> but it only does one page right?
20:50 < Rgoodermote> Yeap.
20:50 < Rgoodermote> Yeap
20:50 < b3htf> hmm
20:50 < b3htf> lol time to go try it again and watch the top command
20:51 < b3htf> and can anyone do that or only authorized users?
20:51 < Rgoodermote> Anyone.
20:52 < Utoryo> Hello everyone, I'm trying to get a private mirror of Simple Wiktionary running but many things don't seem to work, most obvious one is templates - even those that are fully defined inside the same file! Anything obvious I should be looking for?
20:52 < b3htf> so can't someone bog down a whole wiki site that way?
20:52 -!- ^demon [i=4c7b38d9@mediawiki/demon] has quit ["Page closed"]
20:52 < b3htf> if they were to have a script go thorugh as many urls as possible all with that at the end
20:52 < b3htf> *through
20:52 < Rgoodermote> It's not that huge a hog.
20:52 < Rgoodermote> Now editing, editing takes a lot.
20:52 < b3htf> ah
20:52 < b3htf> aha
20:53 < b3htf> oh and another thing I wanted to ask, is there some way to purge all old edits and deleted files?
20:53 < b3htf> like to do cleanup once in a while
20:53 < b3htf> or do they automatically purge themselves after some time?
20:53 < Rgoodermote> What do you mean by purge? Remove them from the server?
20:53 < b3htf> well I mean, what happens with all edits in mediawiki? do they just stay there forever?
20:53 < Rgoodermote> Yeap, in a nice file.
20:54 < b3htf> wouldn't that eventually just create a big mess?
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20:54 < Rgoodermote> I'd imagine so.
20:54 < b3htf> I thought there would be some kind of an optional purging system, like say
20:54 < Rgoodermote> You can just delete the folder created when you delete something.
20:54 < Rgoodermote> I don't know if that breaks anything.
20:54 < b3htf> if a file was deleted for over xmonths or an article edit has been xamount of edits ago
20:54 < b3htf> and something
20:55 < b3htf> it would make sense to me
20:55 < wikibugs> (CLOSED) Enhanced Editor Bar hanging on IE 8 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20668  +comment (wikibugs)
20:55 < b3htf> but ah well, I guess my wiki isn't large enough to worry about that yet
20:56 < b3htf> wanna check it out and tell me what you think?
20:56 < b3htf> I always like suggestions/criticism
20:56 < Rgoodermote> Sure.
20:56 < b3htf> mechdb.com
20:57 < b3htf> it's still fairly small :( lol everyone in the automotive world that hears about it loves the site, but nobody wants to contribute anything
20:57 < Rgoodermote> Jeez, love the skin, suggestion, use Short URLs, it's not required, but it looks nice.
20:57 < b3htf> ah, good idea!
20:58 < CIA-81> raymond * r58091 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/i18n/ (Lqt.alias.php Lqt.i18n.php): Follow-up r58089: Fix title casing, add new special page to the alias file
20:58 < b3htf> it's a modified version of the gumaxdd skin that I got off that one mediawiki skins site
20:58 < Rgoodermote> Also, the Main Page, make the title for it shorter.
20:58 < b3htf> I liked how the guy made his menus
20:59 < b3htf> good idea, I was kind of bugged by the title as well
20:59 < Rgoodermote> The shorter, the more memorable, the more memorable the more users.
20:59 < b3htf> hmm true, got any ideas?
21:00 < Rgoodermote> I used a .htaccess to actually remove the pages name from the URL in general.  http://www.robsden.info.
21:00 < Rgoodermote> With the titile being the default Main Page.
21:00 < Rgoodermote> Which works perfectly in my opinion.
21:00 < b3htf> hmm
21:01 < Rgoodermote> title*
21:01 < b3htf> I'm trying to think of what else to use instead
21:01 < b3htf> instead of the long title
21:01 < Rgoodermote> Main Page is what I would suggest, if not Main Page call it Index.
21:01 < Rgoodermote> Something makes it clear that it is the center.
21:02 < Rgoodermote> that makes*
21:02 < GreenReaper> The Center of All Things
21:02 < b3htf> ah good idea
21:02 < GreenReaper> Probably too long. :-)
21:02 < Rgoodermote> That goes against the shorter is better idea.
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21:03 < Rgoodermote> However you could call it that and use a rewrite rule to remove it from the URL.
21:03 < Rgoodermote> This way it appears in the Wiki, but not in the URL.
21:04 < Rgoodermote> RewriteRule ^/*$ /w/index.php?title=Main_Page [L,QSA]  I use that to remove the title by the way.
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21:06 < DavidCOG> Rgoodermote: Thank once again - I'll subscribe.
21:06 < b3htf> hmm so if I use this
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21:07 < b3htf> it won't have the site name or the article title or whch one?
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21:07 < b3htf> and is this primarily intended so it's displayed in search engines better?
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21:08 < Rgoodermote> DavidCOG, no prob.  b3htf, it'll just remove the title "Main_Page" or whatever you choose to replace "Main_Page" with, every other page will still display a title and yes, it is primarly for search engines.
21:08 < b3htf> so I guess for the front page, I'll make it Index :)
21:08 < b3htf> is an index a good thing to have on the front page anyways? I'm still trying to figure out how to get this whole thing more popular and started off
21:08 < Rgoodermote> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL Here, you can find various ways of making a ShortURL.
21:08 < b3htf> because right now I have like 0 contributors lol
21:09 < Rgoodermote> Well vist forums, show it to various mechnics and give them a reason why contributing would be a good idea.
21:09 < Rgoodermote> visit*
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21:09 < Rgoodermote> mechanics*
21:09 < b3htf> hmm, the reason parts I didn't think about
21:09 < b3htf> I should provide them with more reasons
21:09 < b3htf> most of my posts have simply been like hey check out this great wiki I made and if you want feel free to contribute etc
21:10 < b3htf> but yeah I should provide more compelling arguments
21:10 < wikibugs> (mod) signature jumping up into text - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21248  (roan.kattouw)
21:10 < Rgoodermote> And do remember not to give up even if you have no contributors, because some day some one will join.
21:10 < b3htf> I just always feel kind of bad because I think my intentions could be interpreted as spam lol, although it's just a lot of helpful info
21:11 < Rgoodermote> You know you could also show this to automotive students, their the group you want to go for the most.
21:11 < b3htf> oh that's true!
21:11 < b3htf> I looked and so far automotive is the biggest thing missing in wikis, there's only two others that I've ever ran accross
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21:11 < b3htf> a ford wiki which is mostly around european fords anyways
21:11 < b3htf> and a nissan 350z wiki
21:11 < b3htf> but nothing general 
21:12 < Rgoodermote> It's not a very popular area with people surprisingly.
21:12 < b3htf> it seems to be if you see all the forums though, the forums are banking on everything
21:12 < b3htf> whoring lots of ads and subscriptions and donations and etc, while making it so difficult on finding information
21:13 < b3htf> that's why I wanted to make a wiki to begin with, I got so sick of having to endlessly dig through forums and google
21:14 < Rgoodermote> Oh, one other thing, there is an extension that allows you to make a sitemapxml file, that sitemapxml file can be given to Google and the spiders will be able to find your site easier, it could in theory bring your Google hits up farther.
21:14 < b3htf> oh, excellent suggestion, thanks!
21:14 < b3htf> and how do you give it to google? does it just find it by itself or?
21:15 < wikibugs> (mod) Special:Upload new image to replace an existing images creates new - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21259  (roan.kattouw)
21:15 < Rgoodermote> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Google_Sitemap
21:15 < Rgoodermote> Instructions are there.
21:15 < b3htf> thank you
21:15 < b3htf> btw, what do you guys use for traffic analysis?
21:15 < b3htf> I recently tried piwik and love it! and it's cool someone made a piwik extension for mediawiki too
21:16 < Rgoodermote> This is another one, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ManualSitemap, which I personally prefer.
21:16 < b3htf> I tried awstats once but it seemed like such a hassle to set up I just said to hell with it and put in piwik instead
21:16 < Rgoodermote> I don't know, I don't track my traffic actually.
21:16 < wikibugs> (mod) "Try Beta" still appears while using Monobook theme in WP, as opposed to "Leave Beta" - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21244  (roan.kattouw)
21:16 < b3htf> ah, well check out piwik
21:16 < b3htf> it's so easy, it took me 5 minutes to install
21:16 < b3htf> it's like an open source alternative to google analytics
21:17 < b3htf> I got tired of google analytics because it updates too slow, and I just don't like relying on other services
21:17 < Rgoodermote> I dislike those analytic tools myself, they basically track your activies even after you left the site that had em.
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21:17 < b3htf> really?
21:17 < wikibugs> (mod) Set q:sk: logo - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21262  +comment (roan.kattouw)
21:17 < b3htf> I had no idea
21:17 < Rgoodermote> Or I'm paranoid.
21:17 < b3htf> I don't think piwik does it though
21:18 < b3htf> it's ust a simple open source tracker while you're on the site
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21:18 < b3htf> lol don't forget your aluminum tinfoil hat ;P
21:19 < Rgoodermote> Already wearing it. XD
21:19 < b3htf> hahah
21:19 < b3htf> you ever watch theonion news?
21:19 < b3htf> they had a hilarious one about google opt out program :P
21:19 < Rgoodermote> Nope, not my bag of chips, I also don't know if how far we are allowed to stray off topic by the way.
21:19 < b3htf> ah
21:20 < b3htf> yeah at least this place is more organized, the #css place I'm in has everyone rambling all the time haha
21:20 < Rgoodermote> GreenReaper, you're more a regular than I am, what is the policy for this channel when it comes to the topic?
21:20 < b3htf> sometimes drunk
21:20 < Rgoodermote> You should see this place when it gets busy.
21:20 < b3htf> lol
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21:21 < GreenReaper> It's intended mostly for development and support discussion.
21:21 < Rgoodermote> I love the word "intended"
21:21 < GreenReaper> If you want to chat you might want to take it elsewhere, unless it involves something funny about one of the developers.
21:21 < b3htf> where can we find funny things baout the developers?
21:22 < Rgoodermote> Like how Brion's nickname is Freddybear? (shot in the complete dark, would be funny if true)
21:22 < b3htf> I can't ever hear the word developers again
21:22 < b3htf> without instantly thinking of that video
21:22 < b3htf> where steve ballmer runs around
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21:22 < b3htf> DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS!
21:22 < Rgoodermote> Oh god, that was good.
21:23 < b3htf> hahah
21:23 < apergos> here's a true thing: there is a cardboard cutout of bri on in the new office space
21:23 < apergos> sluightly larger than life
21:23 < Rgoodermote> You're serious?
21:23 < apergos> and it now has a word bubble that says
21:23 < apergos> "I can has cheezeburger?"
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21:23 < Rgoodermote> Wow, I love you guys.
21:24 < apergos> we do our best :-P
21:24 < b3htf> hey I have a question for you guys, not too relevant to mediawiki but
21:24 < Rgoodermote> We're open to most random questions, so go right ahead.
21:25 < b3htf> I have a bunch of haynes manuals, that I'd like to enter the specs from into my wiki
21:25 < b3htf> because everyone always wants to find them online
21:25 < b3htf> like, how much transmission fluid a transmission holds blah blah
21:25 < b3htf> bolt tightening specs
21:25 < b3htf> do you think that stuff can be copyright?
21:25 < b3htf> it's just the same as saying "the building measures x w x height"
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21:25 < Rgoodermote> Yeah, it's very very much copyrighted.
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21:26 < b3htf> dammit, that makes no sense though
21:26 < b3htf> it's just stating something that is a characteristic of someting else
21:26 < b3htf> like the car's wheel base is so and so
21:26 < Rgoodermote> Unless stated otherwise, it's best to assume some one holds a copyright.
21:27 < b3htf> ah well I guess I better have tickets to malaysia and a hosting company there ready
21:27 < b3htf> :(
21:27 < b3htf> lol
21:27 < Rgoodermote> There is always asking them for permission, I don't think they'll charge you.
21:28 < b3htf> haynes manuals would
21:28 < CIA-81> catrope * r58092 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/ (4 files): EditToolbar: New table dialog; adds checkbox for wikitable and sortable classes, and displays a preview of the table's styling (not of its dimensions)
21:28 < Rgoodermote> Do you buy them or are they handed out?
21:28 < b3htf> they'd flip, if people could find the information they needed without having to waste 20 dollars on their ripp off manauls
21:28 < b3htf> buy
21:28 < Rgoodermote> That answers my question.
21:28 < b3htf> but I think they get the information from the factory
21:28 < wikibugs> (NEW) LiquidThreads treats discussions on transcluded subpages as different discussions - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21268 minor; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (Bernhard.Fastenrath)
21:28 < apergos> the manualw are surely copyrighted
21:28 < b3htf> I don't think they physically measure out every spec of the car
21:29 < b3htf> they just show you how to fix certain parts
21:29 < apergos> the information in them is not; you should be able to present the information in a different format without problems
21:29 < Rgoodermote> It says on their Wikipedia article it's a workshop.
21:29 < Rgoodermote> Apergos: Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
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21:29 < b3htf> does having it as a wikipedia article with slight variations in tables and units count as a different format?
21:30 < b3htf> because unfortunately there's only so many ways you can organize the data wihtout making it look stupid
21:30 < apergos> so organize it a different way that they present it
21:30 < b3htf> it's like the wheel, you made it once but you can't really chang eit's format much unless youw ant a square one
21:30 < apergos> but luckily no one has a patent on that any more :-P
21:30 < b3htf> well they present it in a manual, split among many chapters, and etc, I present it usually in just one long table of specs
21:30 < b3htf> so I guess that's different enough
21:30 < apergos> ok
21:31 < wikibugs> (NEW) Header dropdown should be cleverer, consider selection - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21269 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (roan.kattouw)
21:31 < b3htf> but then again what sucks is things are always flexible based on who's got more money
21:32 < Rgoodermote> b3htf, I think you would be fine as long as you do not directly copy the content.
21:32 < b3htf> hehe I bet if htye wanted to they could sue me into oblivion whether I did anything wrong or not
21:32 < Rgoodermote> The content is pretty much public domain and if you had enough time could replicate that manual without ever having seen one.
21:33 < b3htf> ah, that's an excellent point
21:33 < CIA-81> catrope * r58093 /trunk/phase3/js2/ (js2stopgap.js js2stopgap.min.js): 
21:33 < CIA-81> Add JS2 stopgap (regular and minified) to core; this is a copy of the
21:33 < CIA-81> js2.combined.js file in the UsabilityInitiative extension and contains jQuery,
21:33 < CIA-81> some jQuery UI modules and some dummy functions to emulate JS2 functionality.
21:33 < Rgoodermote> Great, /ignore doesn't work on LostIRC. >.>
21:33 < Rgoodermote> That bot is giving me a headache now.
21:34 < Rgoodermote> b3htf, is there anything else you need help with?
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21:34 < b3htf> that about sums it up, I appreciate your suggestions
21:34 < b3htf> lol why? are you guys gonna kick me out or something? :P j/k
21:36 < Rgoodermote> No problem, glad I could help.
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21:37 < b3htf> especially those extensions, lots to  keep me busy
21:37 < b3htf> btw, do you have an example of what the manual site map looks like?
21:38 < Rgoodermote> This is the one I use, http://www.robsden.info/w/sitemap.xml
21:38 < CIA-81> catrope * r58094 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (5 files in 3 dirs): UsabilityInitiative: Use JS2 stopgap from core introduced in r58093
21:38 < b3htf> that's that manual sitemap extension you showed me right?
21:38 < b3htf> do you think i should use that one or the google one?
21:38 < Rgoodermote> Their both the same actually.
21:38 < b3htf> ohh
21:39 < Rgoodermote> Just one has better instructions, that is the one I am using.
21:39 < Rgoodermote> That's just my opinion.
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21:39 < b3htf> so are there any advantages of the google one? maybe it's better optimized for google or something?
21:39 < Rgoodermote> I actually don't know, I never used it.
21:40 < Rgoodermote> From the looks of it, they do the same thing.
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21:40 < b3htf> ohh, so the google one is already included
21:40 -!- sreher_ [n=sreher@f053147154.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #mediawiki
21:40 < b3htf> and the note says only to use the manual one if you can't use the original due to technical reasons
21:41 < Rgoodermote> Google Sitemap is included in 1.16
21:41 < Rgoodermote> You are using 1.15
21:41 < b3htf> wtf, and then it says google sitemap is abandoned?
21:41 < b3htf> lol
21:41 < Rgoodermote> Their both abandoned, 1.16 replaces them.
21:41 < b3htf> so then I don't need a sitemap?
21:41 < b3htf> I'm confused now
21:41 < Rgoodermote> If you have Mediawiki version 1.16, you do not need it.
21:41 < Rgoodermote> If you have Mediawiki 1.15, you do need it.
21:42 < Rgoodermote> 1.16 is unstable, so I wouldn't suggest going to it by the way.
21:42 < CIA-81> catrope * r58095 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/SimpleSearch/ (SimpleSearch.js SimpleSearch.php): SimpleSearch: Fix indentation, docs
21:42 < b3htf> mediawiki-1.13.5
21:43 < b3htf> umm, why the hell am I so outdated, god damn gentoo portage
21:43 < Rgoodermote> Yeah, you may want to update to 1.15.
21:43 < b3htf> argghh
21:43 < Rgoodermote> It's pretty simple.
21:43 < b3htf> it's marked ~x86 that's why
21:43 < b3htf> unstable my ass
21:43 < b3htf> I hate it how slow some of the packages get marked stable there
21:43 < b3htf> ffs
21:44 < Rgoodermote> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading
21:44 < b3htf> thanks
21:44 < Rgoodermote> It's always best to use the package from Mediawiki.org
21:44 < b3htf> I use webapp-config though
21:44 < Rgoodermote> The ones that are in the repositories are usually out of date.
21:44 < b3htf> from gentoo, I kinda like it
21:44 < b3htf> makes upgrading easier
21:45 < Rgoodermote> It's super easy to update Mediawiki....but do make sure to backup everything before updating.
21:45 < CIA-81> catrope * r58096 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 
21:45 < CIA-81> NavigableTOC: (bug 21153) Highlighting gets confused when a header is made
21:45 < CIA-81> longer. Solve this by only highlighting after updating the TOC, and doing this
21:45 < CIA-81> more frequently (250 ms after the user stops typing, rather than 1000 ms)
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21:45 < b3htf> indeed
21:45 < wikibugs> (FIXED) When a long heading is entered the TOC highlight get change - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21153  +comment (roan.kattouw)
21:46 < b3htf> the biggest thing that always worries me is skipping versions
21:46 < b3htf> I need to do them in all the stages right?
21:46 < Rgoodermote> Nope, you can skip versions.
21:46 < b3htf> ohh ok
21:46 < Rgoodermote> You can go straight from 1.13 to 1.15
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21:46 < b3htf> good to know
21:46 < b3htf> what about db updates? are there any sql things I have to run?
21:47 < Rgoodermote> It'll do that automatically.
21:47 < b3htf> oh? I thought it was just replacing the files right?
21:47 < b3htf> so the new php files will check somehow or? lol
21:47 < b3htf> sorry for my newbiness
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21:48 < Rgoodermote> The way I update (probably get yelled at for this) is first back up everything, then rename my localsettings.php to localsettings.bak, then replace all the old Mediawiki files with the new one then run the installer again, then rename my localsettings back to .php.
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21:48 < b3htf> why run the installer?
21:48 < Rgoodermote> It will install the new tables.
21:48 < b3htf> ohh
21:48 < b3htf> will it touch the old oens?
21:49 < Rgoodermote> It will not delete anything if you are worried.
21:49 < b3htf> hmm, well I have webapp manage the package for me though so i wonder if I should do that
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21:49 < Rgoodermote> If that is how you prefer it go for it.
21:49 < b3htf> I kind of like the webapp-config script in gentoo, what it does is keep a central location for the program and then make hard links or something to the virtual host location
21:50 < b3htf> and then it will record all files that are changed I think
21:50 < Rgoodermote> There is no wrong way (that I know of) to install an update.
21:50 < b3htf> because when I remove programs it will leave everything that's created or edited by me
21:51 < Rgoodermote> Just remember to backup EVERYTHING before you update, despite it being streamlined, issues have been known to occur. Also make sure your php and MySQL are supported.
21:51 < b3htf> true
21:52 < Rgoodermote> And do stay away from 1.16 for now, that, that is unstable.
21:52 < b3htf> hey quick non mediawiki question
21:52 < b3htf> lol and probably something pretty stupid but
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21:52 < b3htf> is it ok to back up mysql by simply copying the folder from the /var/lib/mysql area? :P
21:52 < b3htf> of the database itself lol
21:52 < Rgoodermote> I don't know actually.
21:52 < CIA-81> raymond * r58097 /trunk/ (86 files in 54 dirs): Localisation updates for core and extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-10-23 19:00 UTC)
21:52 < b3htf> well I've done it before once, I nuked my db
21:52 < Rgoodermote> I don't think that is ethical...but it may work.
21:53 < b3htf> and restored it from folders
21:53 < b3htf> and strangely it just worked
21:53 < b3htf> didn't even do any configs or anything, dropped the folder in, restarted mysql
21:53 < b3htf> and bam there it was
21:53 < Rgoodermote> By ethical I mean like something most admin would do...but I'm not sure.
21:53 < b3htf> lol
21:53 < Rgoodermote> That's really up to you, it's your server.
21:53 < b3htf> i'm just always afraid that the regular sql backup on phpmyadmin will skip things?
21:53 < b3htf> it's got so many options
21:53 < b3htf> do this or do that and etc and I'm not that skilled with mysql
21:53 < Rgoodermote> phpmyadmin will miss things when it comes to a large database.
21:54 < b3htf> aha, so my worries are confirmed
21:55 < b3htf> ohh, doing it the proper way isn't hard it seems, simple mysqldump command
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21:55 < Rgoodermote> And, huh, backing up by just copying the MySQL folder does work.....never would have thought that..
21:56 < wikibugs> (mod) signature jumping up into text - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21248  (JimWae)
21:58 < CIA-81> rotem * r58098 /trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update.
22:00 < b3htf> ah I just read that it's ok
22:00 < b3htf> as long as you shut down the database
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22:00 < b3htf> while doing it
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22:03 < Rgoodermote> That's if you you are replacing the old database files with the new ones and not simply copying I'd assume.
22:03 < b3htf> no it says if you copy while the db is being written it will result in a corrupt archive
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22:04 < Rgoodermote> Right, never thought of that.
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22:05 < Rgoodermote> Hm, well cool, an easier way to back up my databases.
22:05 < b3htf> lol it's always fun to go through google results in analytics
22:05 < wikibugs> (mod) signature jumping up into text - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21248  (JimWae)
22:05 < b3htf> like someone got to my site for googling a picture of where the oil dip stick is on a contour
22:05 < b3htf> how can anyone not find that lol
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22:07  * Rgoodermote tightens his tinfoil hat.
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22:08 < b3htf> lol!
22:09 < Rgoodermote> So what do you use to host Mediawiki? I prefer to use an Ubuntu based OS as there is more support (IMO)
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22:15 < Thoku> hey
22:15 < Thoku> anyone know of a tutorial for setting up media wiki as a subdomain?
22:15 < Thoku> e.g. wiki.bob.net
22:15 < Thoku> rather than bob.net/mediawiki
22:17 < Rgoodermote> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Short_URL#URL_like_-_wiki.example.com.2FPage_title
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22:17 < Rgoodermote> It's suggested that you do not do this, but that's up to you.
22:19 < Rgoodermote> Is there anything else Thoku?
22:20 < wikibugs> (mod) Is LocalisationUpdate running every day - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21260  +comment (siebrand)
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22:23 < Thoku> ah cool thank Rgoodermote 
22:24 < Rgoodermote> NP, if you need anything else feel free to ask.
22:28 < Rgoodermote> Oh, one thing, Thoku, before I forget, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Ampersand_solution you will need to read this, that will fix a few issues you will have with this choice.
22:29 < Thoku> the issue I have can be seen at http://wiki.bikephreaks.com
22:30 < Thoku> it is forwarding to wiki.bikephreaks.com/mediawiki
22:30 < Thoku> but the alias is disabled as I want it to be all under wiki.bikephreaks.com
22:31 < Rgoodermote> What tutorial did you use and what folder fo you have your Mediawiki install in?
22:31 < Rgoodermote> do*
22:31 < Thoku> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Running_MediaWiki_on_Ubuntu
22:32 < Rgoodermote> I mean for the subdomain.
22:32 < Thoku> I used that tutorial and then created my own namevirtualhost in apache
22:32 < Thoku> media wiki is installed in /var/lib/mediawiki
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22:32 < Juandev> hi
22:32 < Juandev> could you tell me which extension allows to play automaticly a sound when the link is "hovered"?
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22:33 < Rgoodermote> Juandev, there is no such extension to my knowledge.
22:33 < Juandev> Rgoodermote: I can see something like this in here: http://shtooka.net/collections/ces/fr/
22:33 < Juandev> so than its done in the code via kinda template or something?
22:34 < Rgoodermote> Thoku: When you create a subdomain you do not want to point to an existing folder.
22:34 < Thoku> I fixed it
22:34 < Thoku> I changed the script file
22:34 < Rgoodermote> Oh, sorry I couldn't be of any help, glad you fixed it.
22:35 < Thoku> path
22:35 < Thoku> $wgScriptPath       = "";
22:35 < Rgoodermote> Ah, forgot all about that.
22:35 < Rgoodermote> Juandev, I didn't forget you by the way.
22:35 < Thoku> thanks anyway Rgoodermote
22:36 < Juandev> Rgoodermote: well I know
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22:36 < Rgoodermote> Juandev, I do not believe this Mediawiki.
22:37 < Juandev> Rgoodermote: huh?
22:37 < Rgoodermote> If it is, it's heavily changed.
22:38 < Rgoodermote> Oh, hey, down on the bottom.
22:38 < Juandev> Rgoodermote: okay, let me see their version
22:38 -!- mdale [n=dale@pdpc/supporter/student/mdale] has joined #mediawiki
22:38 < Rgoodermote> Yeah, where is that? I'm not fluent in French, so I'm very sorry.
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22:39  * Rgoodermote says as he find the English tab.
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22:41 < Rgoodermote> Juandev, it's heavily modifed, that's not an avaible extension. I'm sorry.
22:41 < Rgoodermote> available*
22:41 < Juandev> oukey
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22:41 < Rgoodermote> Do you you have any other questions?
22:41 < wikibugs> (INVALID) Is LocalisationUpdate running every day - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21260  +comment (roan.kattouw)
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22:42 < Juandev> yes, there is flipt this player: http://www.alsacreations.fr/dewplayer-en
22:42 < Juandev> Rgoodermote: no my friend
22:42 < Juandev> thx
22:43 < Tuxedo_> Is there a way to invoke importImages.php via a shell script so that a matching set of comments can be added for all files? I have about 250 images in a directory on a same server as a new MW installation but  prefer not to upload each image manually only to preserve the image comments....
22:43 < Tuxedo_> There is the option --comment-ext=<ext>
22:43 < Rgoodermote> Juandev, if you want a mediaplayer, I suggest MediawikiPlayer.
22:43 < Tuxedo_> But I don't get it... Does it mean I must have a separate .ext file for each real file?
22:44 < Tuxedo_> That's as much work to prepare as manually uploading all again :-(
22:44 < Juandev> Rgoodermote: no, I just liked the effect
22:44 < Rgoodermote> I don't know about the command line, some one else needs to look at that, but I can tell you there is an extension called MultipleUpload that will make uploading easier..
22:45 < CIA-81> catrope * r58099 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ClickTracking/ (4 files): 
22:45 < CIA-81> ClickTracking: Also track navigation links in left sidebar. This means that
22:45 < CIA-81> ClickTracking (and hence jQuery) will be loaded on every clicktracked page view
22:45 < CIA-81> if/when this is enabled; currently it's not separately disableable and uses the
22:45 < CIA-81> same tracking ratio as the toolbar (this might be undesirable due to the
22:45 < CIA-81> difference in volume), which means that $wgClickTrackThrottle would almost
22:45 < CIA-81> certainly have to be lowered if/when this goes live.
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22:46 < Tuxedo_> Rgoodermote: I know the multi-upload. Not perfect either. It tends to dies if too many large files are uploaded. But one still has to wait...
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22:48 < Rgoodermote> Tuxedo: Yeah, there is not a whole lot I can do with your question, um, some one in here should get to you eventually.
22:48 < Rgoodermote> Sorry.
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22:48 < Juandev> mediawikiplayer? let me see
22:48 < Rgoodermote> Juandev: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MediawikiPlayer
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22:51 < wikibugs> (mod) Is LocalisationUpdate running every day - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21260  (Gerard.meijssen)
22:51 < Tuxedo_> Rgoodermote: Thanks for the tip anyway. I used to have the MultiUpload extension onsite, but found it was too unreliable for large files, so I removed it.
22:52 < Rgoodermote> I found it unreliable as well, but not after I turned up the allotted memory.
22:53 < Tuxedo_> Good to know! I'll test.
22:54 < Tuxedo_> Rgoodermote: Btw. Where is the memory volume control?
22:54 < Rgoodermote> php.ini and in localsettings.php
22:54 < Tuxedo_> Ahh! ini_set( 'memory_limit', '20M' );
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22:55 < Rgoodermote> I also changed upload_max_filesize.
22:55 < CIA-81> catrope * r58100 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ClickTracking/ (ClickTracking.js ClickTracking.php): Followup to r58099: use window.location instead of changing the links' hrefs to ugly URLs; the latter potentially confuses users.
22:56 < Rgoodermote> http://www.robsden.info/url/cerrm
22:56 < Tuxedo_> Yes. Here too. 30MB in /etc/php.ini
22:56 < Rgoodermote> Do not go past 1024, any higher and the Wiki stops functioning.
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22:57 < Rgoodermote> 1024m*
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22:58 < Tuxedo_> The initial installer notice of my set-up/server says "PHP's memory_limit is 128M."
22:59 < Tuxedo_> What do you recommend I set ini_set( 'memory_limit', '????M' ); to?
23:00 < Rgoodermote> I'd go for 200m, it's probably way more than you need, but it gets the job done.
23:00 < Tuxedo_> Great! 200 it is :-)
23:00 < Tuxedo_> Can't wait to test multi-upload after!
23:00 < Rgoodermote> You may also want to change upload_max_filesize in php.ini and the upload limit in localsettings.php
23:01 < wikibugs> (mod) Is LocalisationUpdate running every day - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21260  (roan.kattouw)
23:01 < Rgoodermote> It will take a long while to upload depending on file sizes and what not. I can't say this will work 100%, but it has a reliablity for me of around 85%.
23:02 < werdna> we use 80M at Wikimedia
23:02 < Rgoodermote> Then 200m is way more than he needs.
23:02 < Rgoodermote> But it never hurts to be excessive. XD I give mine a gig.
23:02 < Tuxedo_> Yes, I usually keep them somewhere below/hitting 30mb.
23:03 < Rgoodermote> I give mine a gig out of 4, it works.
23:04 -!- JeroenDeDauw [n=Admin@d51538306.access.telenet.be] has joined #mediawiki
23:04 < Rgoodermote> But past a gig and you get this odd error that disables signing in, is that a failsafe in Mediawiki?
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23:06 < CIA-81> aaron * r58101 /trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialRevisiondelete.php: Show UI edit link only as needed (bug 21263)
23:07 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Special:Revisiondelete: Show link to edit the dropdown reasons only if user can submit - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21263  +comment (JSchulz_4587)
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23:14 < CIA-81> aaron * r58102 /trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Split confirm message from revdelete-text (bug 21264)
23:14 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Special:Revisiondelete: show hint to policy only if user can submit - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21264  +comment (JSchulz_4587)
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23:23 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Upgrade to 1.5 did not populate image mime column - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4328  +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
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23:24 < Juandev> which of this scenarioes is used for WMF projects: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family ?
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23:25 < ialex> Juandev: did you notice that there was a "Wikimedia Method" entry in that page? :)
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23:26 < Juandev> blum, let me see
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23:28 < tpocra> When accessing my wiki, Mozilla Seamonkey complains that while the connection has SSL-encryption, some elements are unencrypted...
23:28 < tpocra> How can I best find out what those are?
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23:29 < MaxSem> images?
23:31 < Platonides> they are probably the images
23:32 < tpocra> How can I analyse what is encrypted and what isn't?
23:33 < CIA-81> dale * r58103 /trunk/phase3/ (15 files in 9 dirs): (log message trimmed)
23:33 < CIA-81> * improved script loader language support
23:33 < CIA-81> ** supports url language code parameter
23:33 < CIA-81> * improved performance on cached hit ( apache bench mark goes from
23:33 < CIA-81> old: Rps: 23.40 [#/sec]
23:33 < CIA-81> new: Rps: 378.61 [#/sec]
23:33 < CIA-81> ** we don't check existence of wiki title until after cache file check.
23:33 < avar> tpocra: If you can find out the NSA would like to hire you
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23:34 < Tuxedo_> Is there a function where to batch add or replace all image comments by a list of matching image/file names?
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23:35 < Danwe> is it possible to add a category into another category as page and not as category??
23:36 < Platonides> no
23:36 < Platonides> I mean, you add them as pages
23:37 < Platonides> it's just that they are presented in a different way in the category page if they are category
23:37 < Platonides> it's just that they are presented in a different way in the category page if they are categories
23:37 < Danwe> yes, would be nicer in one case if they would be displayed like other pages
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23:42 < wikibugs> (mod) Add user preference to opt out of email notification for bot edits (similar to $wgEnotifMinorEdits) - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13992  (alex.emsenhuber)
23:42 < wikibugs> (mod) ENotif/EConfirm & further enhancements (tracking) - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1932  (alex.emsenhuber)
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23:45 < Tuxedo_> I think I'll just do: echo "Caption for image xyz ... " > Image_xyz.ext procedure to create matching file base names of all images and then run importImages.php with the --comment-ext=ext
23:45 < Tuxedo_> Hopefully that will work.
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23:49 < Tuxedo_> Not much faster than adding all comments after a batch import by editing the images pages manually one-by-one though...
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23:51 < Tuxedo_> Actually, I'll do it manually... More fun wiki editing than shell scripting :-)
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