--- Log opened Fri Nov 06 00:00:14 2009 00:00 -!- phyrex1an [n=phyrex1a@bumik.csbnet.se] has joined #mediawiki 00:00 < Gika> nope 00:00 < Gika> though even the error location changes sometime 00:00 < CIA-68> tstarling * r58616 /trunk/phase3/test: testing authz 00:00 < Gika> i assume the point at which it breaks depends on the number of requests to the server 00:01 < Gika> but still it should drain that much memory 00:01 < TimStarling> no, it's a separate per-request memory pool 00:01 < Gika> *shouldn't 00:02 < Gika> also i've optimized the wiki as best as i could without external cachers (memcached, apc, etc.) 00:02 < Gika> and to be fair it loads pretty fast...when it's not giving errors 00:03 < RoanKattouw> Does the error message mention a 64M memory limit? 00:03 -!- ialex [n=IAlex@mediawiki/ialex] has quit [] 00:03 -!- SPQRobin [n=Robin@wikimedia/SPQRobin] has quit ["Leaving."] 00:03 < NivFreak> blah, I hate bug 17329 :) 00:05 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has joined #mediawiki 00:05 < Gika> usually it's something like "Allowed memory size of 41943040 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 122880 bytes)", though the first size varies from 40m to 64m (and once the second size was even over 200m!) 00:05 < TimStarling> it's probably the host's fault 00:06 < TimStarling> if they're load balancing, that would explain the randomness 00:06 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has quit [Client Quit] 00:07 < Gika> well i contacted them and they said that probably it's the fact that it uses too much RAM and it's probably a bug in mediawiki and that i should ask the developers, since 00:08 < TimStarling> yes, well 00:08 < RoanKattouw> MediaWiki needs a healthy bit of memory 00:08 < Gika> (without the "since") 00:09 < Gika> yes RoanKattouw i know, but i don't think it needs _that_ much memory 00:09 < RoanKattouw> Depending on what you're doing, it might 00:09 < RoanKattouw> Parsing [[List of years]] from English Wikipedia takes near 100M 00:10 < TimStarling> make a script that contains only RoanKattouw: it's not parsing anything 00:10 < RoanKattouw> Hm 00:10 < TimStarling> it hits the memory limit before it finishes Setup.php 00:11 < TimStarling> Gika: reload it a few times to see whether some requests have a very high initial memory usage 00:11 < TimStarling> you can post the URL here also 00:11 < Gika> gimme a sec 00:11 < Gika> http://www.pcentral.it/memory.php 00:12 < Gika> the wiki's at www.pcentral.it/wiki 00:12 -!- Bdka [n=bdk@wikipedia/bdka] has joined #mediawiki 00:13 -!- stevekent [n=steveken@216.38.133.254] has quit [] 00:13 < Alphos> i got a 500 on the wiki 00:14 < Gika> eh. that's the problem 00:14 < Alphos> ok 00:14 < Alphos> going to pcentral.it/wiki/ triggers a 500 00:14 < TimStarling> maybe we should try memory profiling? 00:14 < Alphos> but going to pcentral.it/wiki/Pagina_principale doesn't 00:15 < Gika> it's random Alphos...sometimes you get a 500 sometimes no 00:15 < Gika> not 00:15 < Alphos> so far it's perfectly reproductible, Gika 00:15 < Gika> (sorry for my english anyway, i'm italian as you can guess :D) 00:15 < Gika> try reloading the page a few times AlexSm 00:15 < Alphos> Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 41943040 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 30720 bytes) in /home/pcentra1/public_html/w/extensions/CacheManager/CacheManager.php on line 121 00:15 < Gika> sorry, Alphos (damn tab) 00:16 < Alphos> but every time (approx 20 times now) i go to /wiki/ (with no page title), i get a 500 00:16 < Alphos> (except for the memorylimit fatal error) 00:16 < Gika> i get them even on the main page 00:17 < Alphos> let's get rid of the 500 first 00:18 < Alphos> could you paste your rewrite rules somewhere ? 00:18 < CIA-68> dale * r58617 /trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (mv_embed.js tests/testLang.html): 00:18 < CIA-68> * removed some debug statements 00:18 < CIA-68> * added more testLang examples 00:18 < TimStarling> CacheManager? 00:18 < Gika> http://pastebin.com/m2f2ba7aa 00:18 < Gika> nope, it was the same before cachemanager 00:19 < TimStarling> can you reduce the memory limit to 20M and then tell us the line and file? 00:20 < Gika> let's give it a try 00:20 -!- acat [n=acatheri@67.221.65.106] has joined #mediawiki 00:20 < Gika> Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 20971520 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 30720 bytes) in /home/pcentra1/public_html/w/includes/OutputHandler.php on line 26 00:22 -!- apergos [n=ariel@wiktionary/ArielGlenn] has quit ["Leaving."] 00:26 < CIA-68> tparscal * r58618 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (Vector/Vector.php WikiEditor/WikiEditor.php): Used the array format for multiple authors in the credits. 00:28 -!- BradLee [n=chatzill@CPE-124-180-243-37.lns11.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #mediawiki 00:31 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@wikipedia/duesentrieb] has joined #mediawiki 00:32 < TimStarling> and that's if ( !ini_get( 'output_handler' ) ) { ? 00:32 < TimStarling> hard to see how that could be allocating 30KB 00:32 -!- Ryan_Lane [n=chatzill@ip72-204-146-103.no.no.cox.net] has joined #mediawiki 00:32 < TimStarling> also hard to see how it could get to this stage if it was exiting at Setup.php with 40M 00:33 < Gika> i have no freaking idea 00:34 < CIA-68> tstarling * r58619 /trunk/phase3/test: authz test 00:35 < RoanKattouw> TimStarling: Again? 00:36 < CIA-68> tparscal * r58620 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Updated the makefile and rebuilt all combined and minified scripts. 00:36 < TimStarling> I was deleting the test file I created 00:36 < RoanKattouw> Oh OK 00:37 -!- putnik [n=putnik@83.234.74.3] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:37 < TimStarling> the new authz file is deployed now 00:37 -!- Lapper [n=Lapper@wikimedia/lapper] has joined #mediawiki 00:37 < TimStarling> check out Gika's disable_functions 00:37 -!- acat [n=acatheri@67.221.65.106] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:37 < TimStarling> exec, system, passthru, shell_exec, escapeshellarg, proc_close, proc_open, ini_alter, dl, show_source, pcntl_exec, proc_get_status, proc_nice, proc_terminate, pfsockopen, posix_kill, posix_mkfifo, openlog, syslog, escapeshellcmd, apache_child_terminate, apache_get_env, apache_set_env, apache_note, virtual, openlog, syslog, readlink, symlink 00:37 < TimStarling> seriously, readlink? 00:38 -!- acat [n=acatheri@67.221.65.106] has joined #mediawiki 00:38 -!- LauraHale [n=laurahal@adsl-99-144-230-190.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] 00:39 < TimStarling> show_source? ini_alter? 00:39 < Gika> yeah, i know, unfortunately.. 00:44 < CIA-68> tomasz * r58621 /trunk/extensions/DonationInterface/payflowpro_gateway/payflowpro_gateway.body.php: adding url bits 00:46 < TimStarling> Gika: can you post the rest of your error log somewhere? 00:46 < Gika> http://pastebin.com/m2b9efb65 (ignore the unrelated 404s) 00:48 -!- stevekent [n=steveken@216.38.133.254] has joined #mediawiki 00:49 -!- LauraHale [n=laurahal@adsl-99-144-230-190.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #mediawiki 00:49 < TimStarling> nice to see that it's not just MediaWiki 00:49 -!- cjb [n=cjb@pullcord.laptop.org] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:49 < TimStarling> your forum is getting OOM errors as well 00:49 -!- cjb [n=cjb@pullcord.laptop.org] has joined #mediawiki 00:49 < Gika> what does that mean? 00:50 < TimStarling> I think it's your hosts fault 00:51 < TimStarling> and I think working out what the problem is would be an interesting task for a few hours with gdb 00:51 < Gika> mhhh 00:51 < Gika> so what do you propose? 00:52 < TimStarling> switch hosts 00:52 < Gika> but i've just moved to them :( 00:53 < Gika> maybe i can try with the beta of 1.16 but i don't think it's that stable yet.. 00:53 < Gika> http://flossmarche.netsons.org/wiki/index.php?title=Pagina_principale this wiki is on the same host (the free version, even) and it has no problems (except painful slowness) 00:54 < TimStarling> there's no beta 00:54 < Gika> http://linuxpedia.netsons.org/index.php?title=Pagina_principale this too, http://picingcre.netsons.org/wiki/index.php?title=Pagina_principale this too -- and well i think my wiki is larger but not that larger 00:55 < TimStarling> ask them if different sites are on different servers 00:56 < TimStarling> you could try importing the pcentral.it wiki into one of the other accounts 00:56 < Gika> on the free server you say? mhhh i can try 00:56 < Gika> that's a pretty good idea actually 00:56 < TimStarling> that would at least prove to them that it's their fault 00:57 < Gika> yep 00:58 -!- acat [n=acatheri@67.221.65.106] has quit [Connection timed out] 00:58 < Gika> http://pcentral.netsons.org/info.php these are the specs for the free servers anyway 00:59 -!- KaareAway [i=Kaare@wikipedia/pdpc.professional.kaare] has joined #mediawiki 01:01 -!- ITrace [n=justinst@216.81.188.2] has quit [] 01:02 < CIA-68> catrope * r58622 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (7 files in 7 dirs): UsabilityInitiative: Temporarily delete some directories so I can restore them with svn copy so their history is preserved 01:06 -!- j^ [n=j@81.253.25.243] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:11 -!- infinisoft [i=infiniso@r70h97.res.gatech.edu] has joined #mediawiki 01:12 -!- Haley [n=Haley@wikimedia/Dalibor-Bosits] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:13 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@wikipedia/duesentrieb] has quit [Connection timed out] 01:14 -!- Gika [n=giacomo@host1-61-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit ["Chiara, fare all'amore con te `e stato come lanciare un salame in un corridoio."] 01:17 -!- mikeschuld1 [n=mikeschu@209.137.232.180] has joined #mediawiki 01:20 -!- juliano [n=juliano@2001:0:53aa:64c:18c5:6610:36d4:b38f] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 01:21 < CIA-68> catrope * r58624 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/WikiEditor/Modules/ (4 files in 2 dirs): UsabilityInitiative: Move Preview files to the right place 01:22 -!- dungodung is now known as dungodung|sleep 01:22 -!- juliano_ [n=juliano@2001:0:53aa:64c:2ce2:7710:36d4:b38f] has joined #mediawiki 01:23 -!- juliano_ is now known as juliano 01:24 -!- mikeschuld [n=mikeschu@209.137.232.180] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:25 < CIA-68> catrope * r58625 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/Vector/Modules/ (10 files in 3 dirs): UsabilityInitiative: Restoring changes between the last restructuring and this one 01:26 -!- mikeschuld1 [n=mikeschu@209.137.232.180] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:26 -!- robla [n=robla@ip65-47-28-158.z28-47-65.customer.algx.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 01:27 -!- robla [n=robla@ip65-47-28-158.z28-47-65.customer.algx.net] has joined #mediawiki 01:27 -!- mikeschuld [n=mikeschu@153.90.85.24] has joined #mediawiki 01:28 < CIA-68> catrope * r58626 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/WikiEditor/Modules/ (6 files in 3 dirs): ... and some more 01:29 -!- p858snake|sleep is now known as p858snake| 01:30 -!- trev [n=trev@205.158.109.36.ptr.us.xo.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:31 -!- meitar [n=meitar@75-101-56-124.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #mediawiki 01:31 < NivFreak> so did 1.16 add the timezone offsets by name in user preferences or is that an extension I'm missing? 01:31 -!- mikeschuld [n=mikeschu@153.90.85.24] has quit [Client Quit] 01:32 -!- phyrex1an [n=phyrex1a@bumik.csbnet.se] has quit ["Leaving."] 01:33 < TimStarling> that was before 1.16 01:34 -!- anomie [n=brad@wikimedia/anomie] has joined #mediawiki 01:34 < TimStarling> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=505 01:36 -!- xbaez [n=xbaez@200.34.201.2] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:42 < NivFreak> that's 8 months before 1.15.1 01:42 < NivFreak> and I don't have any specific timezones in my instance of it 01:43 < NivFreak> it just allows me to set an offset (or auto-detect from the browser) 01:44 -!- rainman-sr [n=rainman@user-544522c7.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:44 < TimStarling> that feature is disabled if you use PHP 5.0.x 01:45 < TimStarling> because timezone_identifiers_list() was introduced in 5.1.0 01:48 -!- Papertiger [i=tiger@e180067148.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #mediawiki 01:51 -!- [[sroracle]] [n=sroracle@c-98-215-178-14.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #mediawiki 01:54 -!- Dantman [n=dantman@wikia/dantman] has quit ["http://daniel.friesen.name or ELSE!"] 01:57 -!- Skizzerz [n=skizzerz@mediawiki/Skizzerz] has joined #mediawiki 01:58 < CIA-68> catrope * r58623 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (12 files in 7 dirs): UsabilityInitiative: Re-add files using svn copy. 01:59 -!- stevekent [n=steveken@216.38.133.254] has quit [] 02:05 -!- Papiertiger [i=tiger@e180064084.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:07 -!- aZaFred [n=aZaFred@c-76-103-157-174.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #mediawiki 02:10 -!- fanno [n=Morten@90.184.93.233] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:11 -!- RoanKattouw [n=RoanKatt@mediawiki/Catrope] has quit ["zzzzzzz"] 02:13 -!- aZaFred [n=aZaFred@wikimedia/Azafred] has quit ["Leaving..."] 02:14 -!- akozak [n=alex@adsl-71-134-235-3.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit ["ABORTING"] 02:20 -!- Reedy [n=Reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:20 -!- TrevorParscal [n=TrevorPa@216.38.133.254] has quit [] 02:23 -!- enomil [n=enomil@wikimedia/Enomil] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:24 -!- enomil [n=enomil@wikimedia/Enomil] has joined #mediawiki 02:31 -!- Diamant001 [n=user6398@p579CAED0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de"] 02:32 < NivFreak> TimStarling: thanks 02:43 -!- JNSamuel [n=JSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy] has joined #mediawiki 02:47 -!- LionsMane [n=don@c-98-216-253-71.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 02:47 < Ryan_Lane> any of the usability people around? 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What is making the monobook edit links float right? 04:15 < OverlordQ> the span it's in 04:15 -!- Lapper [n=Lapper@wikimedia/lapper] has joined #mediawiki 04:17 -!- Quagmire is now known as Quagmire|GONE 04:18 -!- mwbot-deux [n=PircBot@nightshade.toolserver.org] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:21 -!- mwbot [n=PircBot@nightshade.toolserver.org] has joined #mediawiki 04:21 < groundup> editsection? If it isn't in the skin directory, I can't find it. I can find the class definition, but it doesn't show any floats 04:23 < Natalie> It's common/shared.css 04:24 < Natalie> http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/shared.css ## grep "editsection" 04:25 < groundup> I just found it as you typed that. Weird. I'm trying the cavendish theme and it makes the edit link floated left. Annoying me. 04:26 -!- [[sroracle]] [n=sroracle@unaffiliated/sroracle] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:26 < Natalie> I'm not sure really sure why it's in common/ and not monobook/ 04:28 -!- AzaToth [n=azatoth@wikipedia/AzaToth] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:28 -!- [[sroracle]] [n=sroracle@c-98-215-178-14.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #mediawiki 04:29 -!- Mike||gone is now known as Mike_lifeguard 04:33 -!- robla [n=robla@c-76-104-247-13.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #mediawiki 04:43 -!- Dark_Rift [n=dark@modemcable015.68-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #mediawiki 04:45 -!- DarkRift [n=dark@modemcable015.68-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 04:45 -!- Dark_Rift is now known as DarkRift 04:47 -!- Prodego [n=Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego] has quit ["From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"] 04:51 -!- Dark_Rift [n=dark@modemcable015.68-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #mediawiki 04:59 -!- DarkRift [n=dark@modemcable015.68-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 05:06 -!- Pathoschild [n=Jesse@wikimedia/Pathoschild] has joined #mediawiki 05:15 -!- Skizzerz [n=skizzerz@mediawiki/Skizzerz] has quit ["*poof*"] 05:15 -!- Skizzerz [n=skizzerz@mediawiki/Skizzerz] has joined #mediawiki 05:25 -!- Jake_Wartenberg is now known as JW|AFK 05:28 -!- Dark_Rift is now known as DarkRift 05:33 -!- [[sroracle]] [n=sroracle@unaffiliated/sroracle] has quit [""] 05:45 -!- Morder [n=Morder@unaffiliated/morder] has joined #mediawiki 05:46 < Morder> i did a stock setup of media wiki with no special settings other than adding an Alias to apache and for some reason non-existant articles are just blank...no 404 or anything just empty 05:51 < Morder> even direct (non pretty urls) result in empty pages 05:52 -!- Daedalus969 [n=Daedalus@unaffiliated/daedalus969] has quit ["There is no escaping reason, no denying purpose, because as we both know, without purpose, we would not exist. It is purpose ] 05:54 < OverlordQ> !blankpage | Morder 05:54 < mwbot> Morder: A blank page usually indicates a fatal PHP error. For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . 05:54 < Morder> bah, fun thanks overlordq 05:57 -!- JC [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.14/2009082707]"] 05:58 -!- aZaFred [n=aZaFred@wikimedia/Azafred] has joined #mediawiki 06:05 -!- Mike_lifeguard is now known as Mike||gone 06:08 -!- mian2zi3 [n=cotton@pool-71-188-2-132.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net] has joined #mediawiki 06:09 -!- infinisoft [i=infiniso@r70h97.res.gatech.edu] has quit [Client Quit] 06:10 < mian2zi3> hi 06:10 < mian2zi3> i haven't contributed to mediawiki before, 06:11 < mian2zi3> but i just wrote a solution to the png rendered tex vertical alignment problem, 06:11 < mian2zi3> wondering if people are interested, how i should submit the changes. 06:12 < p858snake|> attaching them to a bugzilla report is the best method 06:14 < mian2zi3> okay, will do. 06:14 -!- tomaszf [n=tomaszf@216.38.133.254] has quit [] 06:19 -!- Pathoschild [n=Jesse@wikimedia/Pathoschild] has quit ["*poof*"] 06:23 -!- p858snake| [n=p858snak@unaffiliated/p858snake] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 06:30 -!- Morder [n=Morder@unaffiliated/morder] has left #mediawiki ["Leaving."] 06:31 -!- str4nd [i=str4nd@wikimedia/str4nd] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 06:33 -!- aZaFred [n=aZaFred@wikimedia/Azafred] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:34 -!- Nikerabbit [i=nike@mediawiki/Nikerabbit] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 06:37 -!- Nifi [n=rabbit@nike.fixme.fi] has joined #mediawiki 06:38 -!- Nifi [n=rabbit@nike.fixme.fi] has quit [Client Quit] 06:40 -!- Nikerabbit [n=rabbit@mediawiki/Nikerabbit] has joined #mediawiki 06:41 -!- Nikerabbit is now known as Nifi 06:46 -!- anomie [n=brad@wikimedia/anomie] has quit ["..."] 06:50 -!- siebrand [n=beis@sm.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 06:54 -!- tomaszf [n=tomaszf@98.210.153.193] has joined #mediawiki 06:56 -!- reid08 [n=reid85@CPE001cdf73661f-CM001ceacec55e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 06:56 -!- reid08 [n=reid85@CPE001cdf73661f-CM001ceacec55e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #mediawiki 07:07 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@argon.loria.fr] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 07:07 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@argon.loria.fr] has joined #mediawiki 07:09 -!- Suiseiseki [i=DesuLove@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has quit ["..."] 07:14 -!- p858snake [n=p858snak@unaffiliated/p858snake] has joined #mediawiki 07:15 -!- str4nd [i=str4nd@wikimedia/str4nd] has joined #mediawiki 07:16 -!- Nikerabbit [i=nike@mediawiki/Nikerabbit] has joined #mediawiki 07:35 -!- Bjelleklang [n=Bjellekl@wikipedia/Bjelleklang] has quit ["Leaving...."] 07:39 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@81.253.46.186] has joined #mediawiki 07:44 -!- j^ [n=j@81.253.26.128] has joined #mediawiki 07:48 -!- siebrand [n=beis@sm.xs4all.nl] has joined #mediawiki 07:49 -!- Miraceti [n=Miraceti@a91-155-185-32.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #mediawiki 07:49 -!- siebrand [n=beis@sm.xs4all.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 07:51 < Miraceti> Hi! I am a sysop/byro at my small wiki. My users cannot create accounts. How the sysop can create accounts for them (sending them an email with password)? 07:52 < OverlordQ> [[Special:UserLogin/signup]] 07:52 -!- Hosiryuhosi [n=Hosiryuh@wikipedia/Hosiryuhosi] has joined #MediaWiki 07:52 < Miraceti> Yes... Too complicated to find it. 07:52 < Miraceti> OverlordQ: Thanks 07:53 < Miraceti> OverlordQ: And how can I, as sysop, resend the password to the user? 07:53 < Skizzerz> you choose to create the account via email 07:54 -!- siebrand [n=beis@sm.xs4all.nl] has joined #mediawiki 07:55 < Miraceti> Skizzerz: Yes, I see. Now the question is how to resend the password to email of already existing user. Is it enough only to fill in already existing username? 07:55 < Skizzerz> you would use [[Special:UserLogin]] for this purpose, as opposed to the signup form 07:55 < Miraceti> Skizzerz: It seems not. 07:56 < Miraceti> Skizzerz: How simple. 07:56 < Miraceti> Damn, really bad morning... 07:56 < Skizzerz> we've all been there 07:57 < Skizzerz> Miraceti: you might want to check out the ConfirmAccount extension, which lets your users request accounts from you so that all you need to do is click "accept" or "deny" :) 07:58 < Skizzerz> !e ConfirmAccount 07:58 < mwbot> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount 07:58 < Miraceti> Skizzerz: I do not have so many users... 07:58 < Skizzerz> it was just a suggestion, but yes, with a small userbase that would be overkill 07:59 < Miraceti> Skizzerz: I see. Thanks. 08:00 -!- putnik [n=putnik@shpd-78-36-163-165.static.vologda.ru] has joined #mediawiki 08:02 -!- ecs [n=ecs@unaffiliated/ecstasia] has joined #mediawiki 08:03 -!- madsj [n=mads@130.227.120.134] has joined #mediawiki 08:08 -!- mian2zi3 [n=cotton@pool-71-188-2-132.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:09 -!- Miraceti [n=Miraceti@a91-155-185-32.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:11 -!- j^ [n=j@81.253.26.128] has quit ["cable cut"] 08:14 -!- Raymond__ [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 08:14 -!- kmccoy [n=a@wikimedia/kmccoy] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:21 -!- kmccoy [n=a@wikimedia/kmccoy] has joined #mediawiki 08:22 -!- Skizzerz [n=skizzerz@mediawiki/Skizzerz] has quit ["*poof*"] 08:23 -!- guillom [n=guillaum@wikimedia/guillom] has joined #mediawiki 08:36 -!- tomaszf [n=tomaszf@98.210.153.193] has quit [] 08:41 -!- madsj [n=mads@130.227.120.134] has quit ["leaving"] 08:46 -!- BradLee [n=chatzill@CPE-124-180-243-37.lns11.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]"] 08:47 -!- MaxSem [n=max@wikimedia/MaxSem] has joined #mediawiki 08:47 -!- tomaszf [n=tomaszf@98.210.153.193] has joined #mediawiki 08:49 -!- guillom [n=guillaum@wikimedia/guillom] has quit ["bbl"] 08:59 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@wikipedia/duesentrieb] has joined #mediawiki 09:01 -!- ZioCorto [i=c1cedc02@gateway/web/freenode/x-e27d512126f8dab0] has joined #mediawiki 09:02 -!- apergos [n=ariel@81.253.40.229] has joined #mediawiki 09:04 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@81.253.46.186] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 09:06 -!- Bamieater [i=Melvin@freenode/sponsor/bamieater] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 09:06 -!- Bamie_ [i=Melvin@53566C45.cable.casema.nl] has joined #mediawiki 09:08 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@81.253.46.186] has joined #mediawiki 09:09 -!- j^ [n=j@81.253.40.243] has joined #mediawiki 09:12 -!- aegis [n=aegis@pool-98-109-206-172.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:13 -!- mdale [n=dale@pdpc/supporter/student/mdale] has joined #mediawiki 09:15 -!- brion [n=brion@wikipedia/Brion-VIBBER] has joined #mediawiki 09:20 -!- aegis [n=aegis@pool-98-109-206-172.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has joined #mediawiki 09:24 -!- wolog [n=wolog@195.6.104.193] has joined #mediawiki 09:26 < brion> hmm, did we get a chance to poke at fosdem dev room submissions yet? 09:31 < Duesentrieb> brion: dunno, was told to talk to finne about it though. 09:32 < brion> yeah i saw she posted a note on mediawiki-l a couple weeks ago 09:32 < Duesentrieb> brion: aude suggested to coop with openstreetmap. we could focus on osm integration 09:32 < brion> ooh that's not a bad idea 09:33 < Duesentrieb> we just have to make sure avar is comming too :) 09:36 -!- guillom [n=guillaum@wikimedia/guillom] has joined #mediawiki 09:36 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@argon.loria.fr] has quit ["Leaving"] 09:37 -!- Melos_ [n=Melos@wikimedia/Melos] has joined #mediawiki 09:39 -!- Melos [n=Melos@wikimedia/Melos] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 09:39 -!- Melos_ is now known as Melos 09:43 < henna> Duesentrieb: siebrand did it last year, so i just stuck to fwd'ing the mail 09:44 * brion waves henna 09:44 * henna waves back 09:44 < henna> running out to go to class first :P 09:45 -!- ^demon [i=51fd23ad@gateway/web/freenode/x-bcaf0fd04616db26] has joined #mediawiki 09:50 -!- stephan48 [n=rjp@pdpc/supporter/student/stephan48] has joined #mediawiki 09:50 < Duesentrieb> henna: could you poke hime about it? 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... it just prints out the version :S ... brb 10:21 -!- guioconnor [n=Adium@217.12.14.240] has joined #mediawiki 10:21 < brion> freakolowsky: it sure should work :) 10:23 < MaxSem> freakolowsky, on which backend? 10:23 < brion> wfm 10:23 < MaxSem> did it evar work on anything but MySQL? 10:24 < ^demon> Probably not. 10:24 -!- MaxMmm [n=MaxM@wsip-98-173-48-39.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #mediawiki 10:25 * MaxSem goes back to his patch 10:25 < brion> ah yeah good chance it's broken on non-mysql 10:25 < brion> i think it used to work on pg but i haven't tested lately 10:26 < ^demon> s/it's/everything/ ;-) 10:28 < freakolowsky> MaxSem: Oracle ... 10:28 < freakolowsky> got timeout now 10:28 < freakolowsky> will have a look at what's going on 10:28 -!- ecstasia [n=ecs@unaffiliated/ecstasia] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:29 -!- ecstasia [n=ecs@unaffiliated/ecstasia] has joined #mediawiki 10:31 < MaxSem> freakolowsky, I'll probably commit an abstraction improvement for tests soon 10:33 < OverlordQ> freakolowsky: works in PG 10:36 -!- GreenReaper is now known as GreenSleeper 10:41 < freakolowsky> damn ... unstub loop detected :( grrrrr 10:41 < CIA-68> werdna * r58628 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (8 files in 5 dirs): LiquidThreads: implement protection of threads and discussion pages from new posts and new replies 10:42 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@wikipedia/duesentrieb] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:42 -!- MaxM [n=MaxM@wsip-98-173-48-39.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:44 -!- ^demon [i=51fd23ad@mediawiki/demon] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 10:44 -!- Melos [n=Melos@wikimedia/Melos] has quit [Success] 10:45 -!- brion [n=brion@wikipedia/Brion-VIBBER] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:47 -!- guillom [n=guillaum@wikimedia/guillom] has joined #mediawiki 10:49 -!- Bdka [n=bdk@wikipedia/bdka] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 10:51 < CIA-68> dale * r58629 /trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (3 files in 3 dirs): * switched skin over to class attribute (ie class="kskin") 10:58 -!- brion [n=brion@81.253.42.95] has joined #mediawiki 10:58 < CIA-68> dale * r58630 /trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/skins/mvpcf/playerSkin.css: * more volume skin fixes 10:59 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@81.253.57.76] has joined #mediawiki 11:00 < freakolowsky> anyone got a usable code editor for Gnome ... besides vim that is ... 11:03 < brion> freakolowsky: i tend to just use gedit; not a lot of frills but it's got syntax highlighting :) 11:03 < brion> you may have to enable autoindent though -- check prefs! 11:03 < p858snake> butterfly of course 11:03 < p858snake> http://xkcd.com/378/ 11:03 < brion> i used to use jedit also (java-based, so not well integrated to the gnome environment, but lots of features) 11:04 < brion> and i know a number of folks using eclipse, but that's kind of heavyweight 11:04 < freakolowsky> yep on gedit to ... been on KDE till last week and KWrite worked better 4 me 11:04 < freakolowsky> i use IDEA (comercial clone of eclipse) ... but only for Java ... yep it's a bit too HW 11:05 -!- ^demon [i=51fd23ad@gateway/web/freenode/x-09161817bc339643] has joined #mediawiki 11:09 < brion> eclipse is too big for my netbook or VM setups; i'm waiting until my linux workstation comes to try the php mode for it ;) 11:09 < MaxSem> freakolowsky, there is a PHP version of IDEA, called WebIDE 11:10 < MaxSem> it's currently in beta stage, you could use betas for free 11:11 < MaxSem> hmm, I'm getting "Interwiki link encoding conversion (bug 1636)... FAILED!" with MySQL 11:11 < freakolowsky> oh why should i ... company's buying ... 11:11 < MaxSem> because it's not available for sale yet;) 11:13 < MaxSem> also, apparently, teh new version of IDEA will include all those niceties such as PHP support:) 11:13 -!- sDrewth [n=sDrewth@wikisource/billinghurst] has joined #mediawiki 11:13 < brion> oooh 11:13 < sDrewth> would someone be able to tell me in which Mediawiki file the buttons in the skins are defined 11:13 < sDrewth> global, not personalisation 11:14 < Natalie> What buttons? 11:14 < sDrewth> Brion: have you started your new job? if so, I hope it is going well 11:14 < freakolowsky> MaxSem: as i said ... i use IDEA for Java ... for php and stuff all i need is a ql simple editor 11:14 < sDrewth> ----; math form, eetc. 11:14 < brion> sDrewth: yep! going great :D 11:14 < sDrewth> great news 11:15 < brion> sDrewth: the toolbar's defined in EditPage.php i believe 11:15 < brion> the actual button images live under skins/common/images i think 11:15 < sDrewth> ewww, I am not touching that! 11:15 < brion> note the new toolbar's being worked on in UsabilityInitiative extension 11:15 < brion> it's much nicer ;) 11:15 < sDrewth> yes, BUT, it doesn't work with ThomasV's Page: environment 11:16 < sDrewth> so things like OCR and other specific buttons don't appear 11:16 -!- BradLee [n=chatzill@CPE-124-180-243-37.lns11.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #mediawiki 11:16 * sDrewth turns the statement around, ThomasV's Page: doesn't work with the new toolbar yet 11:17 < brion> ;_; 11:17 < sDrewth> Brion, I find that the new toolbar slower :-( 11:17 < brion> i'll make sure the usability boys are aware :D 11:17 < sDrewth> lovely 11:17 < sDrewth> with Wikisource, I very much customise my toolbar for lots of our more regular formatting 11:17 < CIA-68> maxsem * r58631 /trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Abstracted some parts of database interaction for parser tests, needs verification on Postgres. SQLite still doesn't work, though fails much later 11:18 < sDrewth> and it would be great to be able to gadgetise regular buttons 11:18 -!- apergos [n=ariel@wiktionary/ArielGlenn] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:18 < p858snake> that new uploader on commons ia pain, espically when you can't get to the real basic one, and apprently theres javascript errors stopping some users from using it 11:18 < MaxSem> OverlordQ, could you check if I broke anything on PG in the above commit? 11:19 < brion> sDrewth: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21225 11:19 < sDrewth> click 11:20 < brion> ok roan's already cc'd on it 11:23 < Natalie> brion: If you can poke them about http://prototype.wikimedia.org/ too. 11:23 < Natalie> :-) 11:25 -!- EcKstasy [n=JSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy] has joined #mediawiki 11:26 < brion> bah 11:26 < brion> looks like somebody changed the usabilityinitiative ext structure incompatibly 11:27 < CIA-68> siebrand * r58632 /trunk/extensions/DonationInterface/donate_interface/donate_interface.i18n.php: Fix typo 11:27 < wikibugs> (mod) ProofreadPage: special buttons are missing when using enhanced editing toolbar - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21225 +comment (billinghurst) 11:27 < CIA-68> werdna * r58633 /trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Enabling changes for r56828: some refactoring and code cleanup of the protection interface, including a new hook, generalisation to more restriction types than edit/move, and some other related changes. 11:28 < brion> we'll see when roan pops up 11:31 < CIA-68> werdna * r58634 /trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: Remove upload from wgRestrictionTypes, it is added as a special case in getProtectionTypes 11:32 < freakolowsky> MaxSem: hey, in parserTests.inc you're duplicating tables ... which ones? 11:32 < freakolowsky> oh, found ... alll 11:32 < MaxSem> not me:P 11:33 < MaxSem> it virtuall creates a new wiki, with tables prefixed with "parsertest_" 11:33 < freakolowsky> why are these tables duplicated anyway? 11:33 < MaxSem> to avoid screwing up your existing wiki 11:33 < MaxSem> cuz tests overwrite main page and so on 11:34 -!- apergos [n=ariel@wiktionary/ArielGlenn] has joined #mediawiki 11:34 < freakolowsky> so they just store data and then copy back to origs or are tests performed on them 11:36 < OverlordQ> temporary tables 11:37 < freakolowsky> OQ: what ... test performed on temps? 11:37 < brion> yep 11:37 < freakolowsky> oh screw that ... 11:37 < brion> basically a fresh virtual wiki with some test pages inserted :) 11:38 < brion> so you have a clean slate to test on and it doesn't eat your live wiki 11:39 < freakolowsky> now i have to work some magic on creating a table duplication method S 11:39 < OverlordQ> although if it did eat a live wiki the results might be entertaining 11:40 < MaxSem> doesn't Oracle support teh default 'CREATE TABLE newtable (LIKE oldtable)'? 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12:58 -!- Raymond_afk is now known as Raymond_ 12:59 -!- aude [n=chatzill@wikipedia/Aude] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:00 < siebrand> I've got my query wrong somehow. What mistake did I make? 13:00 < siebrand> Trying to find all pages that have a suffix "/nl" that contain "e-mail". 13:00 < siebrand> SELECT bw_page.page_namespace, bw_page.page_title FROM `bw_page`, bw_text 13:00 < siebrand> where bw_page.page_latest = bw_text.old_id 13:00 < siebrand> AND bw_page.page_title LIKE '%/nl' 13:00 < siebrand> AND bw_text.old_text LIKE '%e-mail%' 13:01 < crb> You missing a % at the end of your page_title? 13:01 < siebrand> crb: nope. It always ends on /nl. 13:02 < Reedy> presume it just doesnt work rather than no error? 13:02 < Reedy> *an error 13:03 < siebrand> Reedy: oh, the query runs. 13:03 < siebrand> I appear to have my data model wrong. 13:03 < siebrand> Just wondering where... 13:04 < siebrand> It for example returns: 13:04 < siebrand> 8 Already_bureaucrat/nl 55132 E-mail * 13:05 < siebrand> (added a few fields: SELECT bw_page.page_namespace, bw_page.page_title, bw_text.old_id, bw_text.old_text) 13:05 < Reedy> dropping them both down to wilcards returns all pages... 13:05 < siebrand> but MediaWIki:Already_bureaucrat/nl does not contain "E-mail *"> 13:06 < siebrand> so I'm making an incorrect join. Maybe my question is better phrased: how do I get from page title to page text in the data model. 13:07 -!- yannf is now known as yann|away 13:08 < siebrand> Ah, looks like I need to go through the table revision. 13:11 < MaxSem> argh, LoadBalancer creates several instances of Sqlite database, causing deadlocks 13:12 < siebrand> Reedy / crb: thanks for the help. Found it. http://pywiki.pastey.net/127691 13:13 < Reedy> siebrand, bloody escaping :D 13:13 < siebrand> Reedy: nope, that wasn't even it. I needed an extra step to get to the page content. 13:13 < Reedy> aah 13:15 -!- ireas [n=ireas@wikipedia/Ireas] has joined #mediawiki 13:15 < CIA-68> aaron * r58637 /trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticle.php: Fixed comment 13:16 -!- Mike||gone [n=Mike@wikimedia/mikelifeguard] has quit [Connection timed out] 13:19 -!- Prodego [n=Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego] has joined #mediawiki 13:23 -!- brunoscunha [i=c24101bd@gateway/web/freenode/x-ea30071195582698] has joined #mediawiki 13:25 < brunoscunha> my mediawiki instalation is asking too much processor on the server. Would this issue be solved by using a php accelerator? 13:29 -!- flubub1113 [n=Flubub@88.67.124.55] has joined #mediawiki 13:36 < Nikerabbit> brunoscunha: to a degree yes 13:38 -!- enomil [n=enomil@wikimedia/Enomil] has joined #mediawiki 13:38 < brunoscunha> the server where it's hosted at work is "complaning" a bit 13:38 < brunoscunha> the apache sessions are heavy on the processors 13:39 < brunoscunha> or could be some extension? 13:40 -!- Vyznev [n=ilmari@mediawiki/Ilmari-Karonen] has joined #mediawiki 13:40 < Nikerabbit> who knows 13:41 < Nikerabbit> can be about anything without further details 13:41 -!- rdjong [n=rdjong@ineo-y1a.hightechcampus.nl] has quit [] 13:41 < brunoscunha> yes indeed 13:42 < brunoscunha> I'm using who is online extension. At the moment it's still a beta 13:44 -!- Bamie_ [i=Melvin@53566C45.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 13:45 < CIA-68> raymond * r58638 /trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/ (MediaWikiExtensions.php mediawiki-defines.txt): Follow-up for moving UI extensions to new directories 13:50 -!- yann|away is now known as yannf 13:56 -!- MojoDodo [n=mojo@77.3.62.171] has joined #mediawiki 13:56 < MojoDodo> hey, i have a question 13:58 < MojoDodo> i have a texfile, which contains about 50 small texts (separated with ### from each other) which i want to insert to my mediawiki, each text should be on a separate site (means i'll gett 50 sites), is it somehow possible to get this done automatically? 14:01 -!- brion [n=brion@81.253.13.78] has joined #mediawiki 14:01 < Reedy> write a script and use the api? 14:02 < MojoDodo> what means api? 14:03 < MaxSem> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Edit.php 14:06 < MojoDodo> do you think it'll be difficult to write such a script? can anybody recommend a tutorial which gives a brief introduction about writing a such scripts 14:07 -!- guillom [n=guillaum@wikimedia/guillom] has joined #mediawiki 14:08 -!- GDonato [n=GDonato@wikimedia/GDonato] has joined #mediawiki 14:09 < CIA-68> raymond * r58639 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/i18n/Lqt.i18n.php: i18n tweaks 14:10 -!- LauraHale [n=laurahal@adsl-99-144-230-190.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #mediawiki 14:12 < CIA-68> dale * r58640 /trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/skins/mvpcf/styles.css: * fix tag height for text tabs 14:12 -!- aude [n=chatzill@wikipedia/Aude] has joined #mediawiki 14:13 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@81.253.14.52] has joined #mediawiki 14:16 -!- mgrabovsky [n=MGrab@wikipedia/Mat--j-Grabovsk--] has joined #mediawiki 14:17 < CIA-68> catrope * r58641 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/Vector/Vector.hooks.php: UsabilityInitiative: Fix copy-paste mistake. Vector has no global scripts, so trying to add them results in adding "/Vector/?252", which causes the client to interpret a directory index file as JS (or get a 403) 14:18 -!- ^demon [i=51fd0eb4@gateway/web/freenode/x-da46b7544b061a6f] has joined #mediawiki 14:19 -!- Shown [n=Miranda@host57-68-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #mediawiki 14:20 -!- Shinjiman [n=hkman117@203.206.33.244] has joined #mediawiki 14:21 -!- Melos-away [n=Melos@wikimedia/Melos] has joined #mediawiki 14:22 -!- MojoDodo [n=mojo@77.3.62.171] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:24 < wikibugs> (NEW) Uniwiki Authors broken in 1.14 and 1.15 : Call to undefined function creditLink() - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21419 blocker; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Uniwiki; (webmaster) 14:25 -!- Shinjiman_ [n=hkman117@203-206-33-244.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #mediawiki 14:26 -!- Melos [n=Melos@wikimedia/Melos] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 14:26 -!- Melos-away is now known as Melos 14:27 -!- apshields [n=apshield@ip70-188-59-85.rn.hr.cox.net] has quit [] 14:29 -!- RoanKattouw_away [n=chatzill@83.119.125.27] has joined #mediawiki 14:29 -!- RoanKattouw_away is now known as RoanKattouw 14:29 -!- brunoscunha [i=c24101bd@gateway/web/freenode/x-ea30071195582698] has quit ["Page closed"] 14:31 -!- Shinjiman [n=hkman117@203.206.33.244] has quit [Read error: 148 (No route to host)] 14:34 -!- Marco27 [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has joined #mediawiki 14:39 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@wikipedia/duesentrieb] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:40 < crb> siebrand: sorry, you said suffix, not prefix. :) 14:40 < Reedy> RoanKattouw, quick question if you're about? 14:40 < RoanKattouw> Sure 14:41 < Reedy> Do you develop on windows? If so, do you just use a text editor with syntax highlighting or something else? 14:41 -!- Lapper [n=Lapper@wikimedia/lapper] has quit [Client Quit] 14:41 < flyingparchment> notepad++! 14:41 < Reedy> flyingparchment, using that now :) 14:41 < Reedy> ie eclips 14:41 < Reedy> *ie eclipse 14:41 < RoanKattouw> I occasionally develop on windows, and I do use an editor with syntax highlighting, albeit a very crappy one 14:41 < Reedy> as i know some people use it.. 14:41 < flyingparchment> can't imagine anyone using eclipse by choice 14:41 < RoanKattouw> It's called Maguma OpenStudio, and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone 14:41 < Reedy> haha 14:42 < RoanKattouw> I've never used Eclipse for PHP, I do use it for Java development though 14:42 < RoanKattouw> It's quite useful if your version is recent enough 14:42 < p858snake> "Alternatives for Windows include Notepad++, SciTE, EditPlus, and UltraEdit." 14:42 < p858snake> theres also notepad2 which i know a couple of people like 14:42 < flyingparchment> gvim too 14:42 < RoanKattouw> My favorite feature is that when you add "implements FooInterface" to a class definition, Eclipse complains that you didn't implement FooInterface's methods and offers to add them for you 14:43 < flyingparchment> doesn't every java IDE do that? 14:43 < Reedy> lol 14:43 < RoanKattouw> I don't know 14:44 < Reedy> VS does it for you if you ask 14:44 < RoanKattouw> I've only developed Java for a year (since I got into uni), and I haven't used any other Java IDEs 14:44 < Reedy> Just seeing if i could fix some simple API bugs etc... Just getting a bit lost trying to find what i'm looking for 14:44 < flyingparchment> last time i used eclipse they forced you to use the builtin java compiled, and it took them ages to support 1.5 14:44 < flyingparchment> long after every other IDE supported it 14:44 < RoanKattouw> Reedy: You're more than welcome to fix API bugs :) lemme pull up the list 14:44 < Reedy> !b 20967 14:44 < mwbot> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20967 14:45 < Reedy> Should be a simple enough one 14:45 < Reedy> Just finding whats used for the title validation else where and reusing it 14:46 < RoanKattouw> !b 19195 14:46 < mwbot> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19195 14:46 < RoanKattouw> 19195 is an annoying no-brainer 14:46 < RoanKattouw> Yeah that one looks easy too 14:46 < RoanKattouw> Maybe a $title->isInterwiki() check or some such would even be enough 14:46 < ^demon> PARAM_DEPRECATED was an annoying no-brainer too ;-) 14:47 < Reedy> RoanKattouw, i did wonder if something that simple would suffice 14:47 < Reedy> But was looking around to see if any other sort of similar validation was done, for other stuff the api really shouldnt accept 14:47 < RoanKattouw> ^demon: Yeah but adding user IDs everywhere that user names are output/input is bigger than that :) 14:47 < RoanKattouw> Reedy: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19523#c5 14:48 < RoanKattouw> You actually volunteered there before :) 14:48 < Reedy> RoanKattouw, :P 14:48 < Reedy> Yeah, i know... I did have a poke around, i think i've still got a half assed non working patch for that iirc 14:48 < RoanKattouw> Huh did avglag ever get committed? 14:48 < Reedy> nope 14:48 -!- Shinjiman_ [n=hkman117@203-206-33-244.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 14:49 < RoanKattouw> Remind me, do you have commit access? 14:49 < Reedy> Nope :) 14:50 < RoanKattouw> I don't know if you want it, but feel free to request it with my support 14:51 -!- ian_brasil [n=ian@189.2.128.130] has joined #mediawiki 14:51 -!- hotkey_ [n=hotkey@daedalus.hh.fh-stralsund.de] has joined #mediawiki 14:52 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@wikipedia/duesentrieb] has joined #mediawiki 14:53 -!- RoanKattouw [n=chatzill@mediawiki/Catrope] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 14:53 < wikibugs> (WONTFIX) Illogical XML in sitematrix API output - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14955 +comment (maxsem.wiki) 14:56 < wikibugs> (mod) Parser tests don't work on SQLite backend - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20549 summary; +comment (maxsem.wiki) 14:57 -!- EcKstasy [n=JSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy] has joined #mediawiki 15:02 < freakolowsky> weirdness ... connection established in normal run, but i get a timeout on maintainence connect 15:02 -!- Suiseiseki [n=desudesu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has joined #mediawiki 15:04 < wikibugs> (mod) Expose average lag ("avglag") a well as maxlag - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20554 +patch; +comment (sam) 15:05 -!- Raymond_ [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has left #mediawiki [] 15:05 < ^demon> MaxSem: That's been WONTFIX'd before ;-) 15:06 -!- autoblock is now known as PDD 15:06 * MaxSem mumbles something about immortality and zombies... 15:06 * werdna invades 15:06 < flyingparchment> zombies aren't immortal, they're dead 15:07 < ian_brasil> anyone know how i can stop IP addresses being displayed in the history? 15:07 < flyingparchment> (undead) 15:07 < MaxSem> undead=you can't kill them=immortal:D 15:07 < ^demon> ian_brasil: You can disable anonymous editing. 15:08 < flyingparchment> MaxSem: by that logic, a corpse is immortal 15:08 < flyingparchment> MaxSem: or a chair 15:08 -!- rainman-sr [n=rainman@84.69.34.199] has joined #mediawiki 15:08 < MaxSem> scholastics 15:08 < ian_brasil> ^demon, i do not want to disable anon editing 15:09 -!- yoyo[RKN] [n=Miranda@i577B61F3.versanet.de] has joined #mediawiki 15:09 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:09 < MaxSem> you'll have to hack the code a bit 15:09 < ^demon> ian_brasil: Then there's no way to remove IPs from history/logs/recentchanges/etc. 15:09 < ian_brasil> i just do not want IP address displayed..i am having some privacy complaints on a site i administer 15:10 < ^demon> MaxSem: Don't tell people that! 15:10 < MaxSem> sometimes, there is no other option 15:11 -!- JNSamuel [n=JSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:11 < ian_brasil> ^demon, ok thx...maybe i need to hack the php to stop the database write into the metadata table 15:12 < MaxSem> there are some sites that do that, for example lurkmore.ru 15:12 < CIA-68> aaron * r58642 /trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedArticleView.php: 15:12 < CIA-68> * Added class description 15:12 < CIA-68> * Disabled clone() 15:12 < MaxSem> ian_brasil, that would be dangerous 15:12 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has joined #mediawiki 15:12 < AryehGregor> It should be reasonably possible to just make all anon edits come from 0.0.0.0 or something. 15:13 -!- mdale [n=dale@pdpc/supporter/student/mdale] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:13 < MaxSem> you'll be unable to fight anon vandalism in such case 15:13 -!- Raymond_ [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has joined #mediawiki 15:13 -!- mdale [n=dale@pdpc/supporter/student/mdale] has joined #mediawiki 15:13 < CIA-68> tomasz * r58643 /trunk/phase3/extensions/GeoLite/ (. GeoLite.i18n.php GeoLite.php GeoLite_body.php): Adding working proof of concept for quick geo ip redirection 15:13 < ian_brasil> MaxSem, I realise that 15:14 < ian_brasil> AryehGregor, any idea of the best way to do that? 15:14 -!- RoanKattouw [n=chatzill@83.119.125.27] has joined #mediawiki 15:14 < AryehGregor> You could do it all on the SQL side by a trigger or such. 15:14 < MaxSem> so the real solution would be to change something somewhere around Linker to display links to anon pages only to specific user groups 15:15 < AryehGregor> You'd probably want to be sure to keep the actual IP addresses somewhere in case you need to control abuse. 15:15 < MaxSem> and disable the API 15:15 < AryehGregor> All this isn't recommended, though. 15:15 < werdna> ^demon: your gmail is ugly 15:15 < AryehGregor> MaxSem, that sounds like a really incomplete idea. There must be forty zillion places where the data is presented. 15:15 < AryehGregor> Best to just remove it from the DB entirely. 15:15 < ^demon> tomaszf: Ummm...did you commit that in the right place? 15:16 < werdna> there's some patches to core that anonymise the IP addresses 15:16 < ^demon> werdna: As soon as my Gmail is for your consumption, I'll change it ;-) 15:16 -!- Philippe|Wiki [n=Philippe@wikimedia/Philippe] has joined #mediawiki 15:17 < tomaszf> haha .. clearly not .. lets fix that up 15:17 < ^demon> Thanks :) 15:17 < wikibugs> (mod) API action=edit allows creation of illegal page names - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20967 (sam) 15:17 < tomaszf> one should not be trusting old svn check outs to be correct at 6am in the morning 15:17 < werdna> tomaszf: by the way, you sound *exactly* like ^demon in real life 15:17 < tomaszf> so i've been hearing tonight 15:18 * Philippe|Wiki laughs 15:18 < ian_brasil> werdna, anon IP adresses sounds like the best solution 15:19 < AryehGregor> werdna, didn't you tell me I reminded you of tomaszf too? 15:19 < werdna> I don't know, I wouldn't think so 15:19 < werdna> you're quite opposite, IIRC 15:20 < CIA-68> tomasz * r58644 /trunk/phase3/extensions/GeoLite/: Wrong dir ... deleting .. om nom nom 15:20 < AryehGregor> You told me I reminded you of someone. 15:20 * werdna shrugs 15:20 < Amgine> werdna: I have to nag briefly 'cuz I'm about to head out the door: Any progress on #20818? 15:20 < werdna> Amgine: I've been travelling and meeting and such 15:21 < werdna> have only had 2 days working in the last week and a half 15:21 < Amgine> Thus the brevity. 15:21 < Amgine> Tah! 15:21 -!- JC [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has joined #mediawiki 15:27 < CIA-68> tomasz * r58645 /trunk/extensions/GeoLite/ (. GeoLite.i18n.php GeoLite.php GeoLite_body.php): Adding working proof of concept for quick geo ip redirection 15:27 < tomaszf> there we go :) 15:28 < ^demon> \o/ 15:29 < tomaszf> good catch ^demon. thanks again 15:29 < ^demon> Anytime. 15:30 -!- Marco27 [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has quit ["A dopo!"] 15:33 < wikibugs> (mod) API action=edit allows creation of illegal page names - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20967 +patch (sam) 15:35 -!- Daedalus969 [n=Daedalus@unaffiliated/daedalus969] has joined #mediawiki 15:35 < werdna> ^demon: Gentlemen... 15:35 -!- GDonato [n=GDonato@wikimedia/GDonato] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 15:36 < ^demon> Please consider the 5 people using text browsers! 15:36 < werdna> It is an outrage that this support is not supplied... 15:36 -!- EcKstasy [n=JSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy] has quit ["If at first you don't succeed, copy off someone who is cleverer than you."] 15:36 -!- gdonato [n=GDonato@wikimedia/GDonato] has joined #mediawiki 15:36 < werdna> See at http://transgender-taiwan.org/... 15:38 * RoanKattouw has yet to meet both AryehGregor and ^demon , but they never seem to go anywhere :( 15:38 < RoanKattouw> Except for Paris, then 15:38 < AryehGregor> Where does ^demon live? 15:38 * AryehGregor clings to his chair like a limpet. 15:38 < Philippe|Wiki> Some godforsaken town in the US. 15:38 < RoanKattouw> Look who's talking ;) 15:39 < Philippe|Wiki> Fair point. 15:39 < CIA-68> catrope * r58646 /trunk/phase3/ (10 files in 4 dirs): API: (bug 20554) Expose average slave lag (avglag) as well as maxlag. Patch by Sam Reed. 15:39 < RoanKattouw> Reedy: Committed avglag patch ---^^ 15:39 < Reedy> ;D 15:39 < ^demon> AryehGregor: Richmond, Va. 15:39 < ^demon> Philippe|Wiki: Yeah, Mr. Oklahoma. 15:39 < Reedy> RoanKattouw, i put a patch on the illegal 20967 aswell 15:39 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Expose average lag ("avglag") a well as maxlag - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20554 +comment (roan.kattouw) 15:39 < RoanKattouw> Reedy: Yeah, I saw it, I'm gonna review it now 15:40 * AryehGregor mocks everyone who lives in a city smaller than New York. 15:40 * AryehGregor mocks everyone who lives in a bigger city too, since those are also inferior. 15:40 < AryehGregor> Any pgsql person here? https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Category:Query_service 15:40 < apergos> tomaszf: I checked in brion's suggested changes and am now waiting for him to review them 15:41 < CIA-68> demon * r58647 /trunk/extensions/GeoLite/ (GeoLite.i18n.php GeoLite.php GeoLite_body.php): eol-style, trailing newlines, remove ?> 15:41 < apergos> if he signs off then it can be tested on dev.donate next. 15:41 < tomaszf> apergos: fancy 15:41 < tomaszf> if he's around tell him that we might have found a sane way of doing the geoip lookups 15:41 < apergos> well given I just pinged him by accident I think he'll be reading this in the backread :-P 15:42 < tomaszf> hurrah! 15:43 < apergos> I have not added anything to handle generating the page url based on location + lang + proj + etc... that is, the location piece is not in there. 15:43 -!- Philippe|Wiki is now known as Philippe|Away 15:43 -!- ^demon is now known as ^demon|afk 15:43 < brion> whee 15:43 < CIA-68> raymond * r58648 /trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: Add GeoLite to translatewiki 15:43 < apergos> but someone will have to figure out the naming schemes anyways (loc + lang + base page name + year = what url? _ 15:43 < tomaszf> we can tackle that after .. no worries 15:43 < tomaszf> yo brion! 15:44 < CIA-68> catrope * r58649 /trunk/phase3/ (CREDITS RELEASE-NOTES includes/api/ApiEditPage.php): API: (bug 20967) action=edit allows creation of invalid titles that look like interwiki titles. Patch by Sam Reed 15:44 < brion> how's things goin back home 15:44 < wikibugs> (FIXED) API action=edit allows creation of illegal page names - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20967 +comment (roan.kattouw) 15:44 < tomaszf> moving along actually 15:45 < RoanKattouw> tomaszf: BTW, I don't think I'm gonna come to the OpenZIM thing, doesn't seem to interesting to me. 15:45 < sDrewth> question: Does edittools have versions? 15:45 < RoanKattouw> Oh and my grandparents are celebrating their 50th anniversary :) 15:45 < RoanKattouw> sDrewth: Which edittools exactly? What do you mean by versions? 15:46 < sDrewth> on enWS, the edittools has spaces that break tags 15:46 < sDrewth> yet the same edittools on enWP has spaces in it's 15:46 < RoanKattouw> It's probably in MediaWiki:Edittools or some such 15:46 < sDrewth> its 15:46 < RoanKattouw> Edittools are a per-wiki thing 15:46 < sDrewth> yes, that is the file that I am editting 15:47 < sDrewth> http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Edittools 15:47 < sDrewth> the
15:47 < sDrewth> but it does
and they are < 15:49 < sDrewth> where as on WP <span class="plainlinks"></span> shows complete 15:49 < sDrewth> doesn't break at the space 15:50 < sDrewth> ah, WS is using these tags 15:51 < sDrewth> one is using edittools.js, and the other is using edittools 15:51 < sDrewth> resolves my issue 15:52 < wikibugs> (mod) Exact search does not work with the API - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21081 summary (sam) 15:52 -!- ireas [n=ireas@wikipedia/Ireas] has quit ["bye"] 15:52 -!- phyrex1an [n=phyrex1a@95.80.47.90] has joined #mediawiki 15:53 -!- Philippe|Away is now known as Philippe|Wiki 15:56 < wikibugs> (INVALID) Exact search does not work with the API - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21081 +comment (rainman) 15:57 * RoanKattouw cheers on rainman-sr 15:58 < brion> apergos: quick note on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/58635 15:58 < apergos> ok, thank you 15:59 < apergos> sorry to have bugged you, I just know that other folks are wanting me to hurry up and get it done 15:59 < apergos> I see :-D 15:59 < Reedy> RoanKattouw, i was looking at the bug and i'm sure i'd asked something similar for AWB before 15:59 -!- LauraHale [n=laurahal@adsl-99-144-230-190.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] 15:59 < Reedy> *that 16:00 < RoanKattouw> Reedy: Which bug is that? 16:00 < Reedy> the one rainman-sr just made invalid 16:01 < brion> ok now to look at the second file *context switch* 16:01 < apergos> uh huh 16:02 < brion> i think there's some tab/space inconsistency but that's not a biggie ;) 16:02 -!- ^demon|afk is now known as ^demon 16:03 < brion> apergos: you may need to override the Pragma: no-cache header 16:03 -!- _Jat_ [n=chatzill@206.47.19.42] has joined #mediawiki 16:03 < brion> header('Pragma:') should do it 16:03 < apergos> huh 16:03 < apergos> I didn't think of that. 16:03 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@wikipedia/duesentrieb] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:03 < apergos> I'll have a look 16:03 < Reedy> !b 14791 16:03 < mwbot> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14791 16:03 -!- p858snake is now known as p858snake|sleep 16:04 < _Jat_> I am in the process of deciding whether I should pick mediawiki or jspwiki for our corporate environment. Anyone got any thoughts on this? 16:04 < Reedy> I opened that bug, but i really dont care/there is no need for it now (14791), can i just close as wontfix? 16:05 -!- Betacommand [n=Betacomm@unaffiliated/betacommand] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:05 < brion> apergos: looks ok to me, as long as the year/page/lang params are all cleanly validated 16:06 -!- guioconnor [n=Adium@217.12.14.240] has quit ["Leaving."] 16:06 < brion> the memcache get/set looks good..... 16:06 < brion> cache headers look right 16:06 < apergos> lang is checked against language codes, year is some reasonable number, page is a bit sketchier 16:06 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@wikipedia/duesentrieb] has joined #mediawiki 16:06 < brion> [i recommend double-checking that output is correct with LiveHTTPHeaders or firebug or something) 16:07 < apergos> I looked to see we get cache headers (wget) 16:07 < brion> apergos: ah make sure the params to the api are url-encoded 16:07 < ^demon> Reedy: If it's no longer a requested feature, then I suppose you can :) 16:07 < brion> easiest way is to pass an array of params into wfArrayToCGI() 16:07 < apergos> ok 16:07 < RoanKattouw> _Jat_: Depends on your specific needs 16:08 < Reedy> ^demon, its barely a feature, it was for nasty html scraping... Though, i suppose the WMF error page would still appear.. Hmm 16:08 < RoanKattouw> There are some things that MW isn't very well suited for 16:08 < apergos> brion: any suggestions for page validation? 16:08 < _Jat_> RoanKattouw: Thanks for replying. Could you please elaborate a bit on things that are not very well suited under MW 16:08 < apergos> for general use there can be a whole lot of crap in page titles... 16:09 < RoanKattouw> !cms | _Jat_ 16:09 < mwbot> _Jat_: Wikis are designed for openness, to be readable and editable by all. If you want a forum, a blog, a web authoring toolkit or corporate content management system, perhaps don't use wiki software. There is a nice overview of free tools available at including the possibility to try each system. For ways to restrict access in MediaWiki, see !access. 16:09 < CIA-68> aaron * r58650 /trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.php api/ApiFlagConfig.php): bug 21371 FlaggedRevs: retrieve review levels/flags by API 16:09 < RoanKattouw> Basically, if you want read restrictions on parts of a wiki, MW is not for you 16:10 < RoanKattouw> Also, if what you want more resembles a blog or CMS, look at real blog/CMS software as well 16:11 < _Jat_> Our basic requirement is to have a central repository of our resources under 1 umbrella. And wiki seems to meet those needs. 16:11 < RoanKattouw> What is the nature of those resources? 16:11 < _Jat_> Hmm considering our requirements. I would more focus on who could write instead of who could read certain material. 16:11 < RoanKattouw> Right 16:11 < RoanKattouw> So you're fine with everyone reading? 16:11 -!- Betacommand [n=Betacomm@unaffiliated/betacommand] has joined #mediawiki 16:11 < RoanKattouw> Fine-grained write restrictions are absolutely no problem 16:12 < _Jat_> For now I believe that's correct. 16:12 < wikibugs> (WONTFIX) Unique Identifier on [[MediaWiki:Readonlytext]] and WMF Error.html - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14791 +comment (sam) 16:12 < _Jat_> RoanKattouw: Another question I have is if I could plug-in any blog engine within media wiki 16:13 < RoanKattouw> Not really 16:13 < RoanKattouw> What do you mean by plug in/ 16:13 < _Jat_> OK 16:13 < RoanKattouw> If you mean just showing like the 10 most recent posts, that's possible 16:13 < wikibugs> (FIXED) FlaggedRevs: retrieve review levels/flags by API - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21371 +comment (JSchulz_4587) 16:13 < _Jat_> RoanKattouw: OK cools. Thanks 16:13 < RoanKattouw> There's an extension for that with RSS in its name 16:13 < _Jat_> RoanKattouw: Have you heard about JSP wiki 16:13 < RoanKattouw> No 16:14 -!- guioconnor [n=Adium@nat/yahoo/x-04340a84c2b28c84] has joined #mediawiki 16:14 < _Jat_> ok no worries. One thing I noticed is that MW has good support on IRC and got enough help material to get me started 16:15 < wikibugs> (WONTFIX) Unique Identifier on WMF Error.html - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15590 +comment (sam) 16:15 < CIA-68> ariel * r58651 /trunk/phase3/includes/OutputPage.php: no pass-by-ref needed for CacheHeadersAfterSet 16:17 -!- LionsMane [n=don@c-98-216-253-71.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #mediawiki 16:18 < werdna> anybody have google wave and want to be added to a wave with discussion of a new upload form? 16:18 -!- _Jat_ [n=chatzill@206.47.19.42] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]"] 16:19 -!- Rygir [n=masked@81.83.152.111] has joined #mediawiki 16:19 < Reedy> werdna, sure 16:19 < werdna> address? 16:20 < Reedy> tehreedy@googlemail.com 16:22 -!- guioconnor [n=Adium@nat/yahoo/x-04340a84c2b28c84] has quit ["Leaving."] 16:23 -!- guioconnor [n=Adium@nat/yahoo/x-a15b0597be9d512f] has joined #mediawiki 16:24 -!- putnik [n=putnik@shpd-78-36-163-165.static.vologda.ru] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 16:26 < Rygir> I have problem and I want to fix it elegantly (without risking inconsistencies) : I had an article that got spammed, I deleted it with the intention of undeleting only the valid edits (the 10 oldest ones or so - I don't know exactly). Unfortunately, the page had about 29000 revisions thanks to those damn bots (didn't have captcha's back then) and now when I click the link for undelete or view/restore I just get an HTTP 500 error (Internal Server Error). Ap 16:29 < wikibugs> (mod) Exact search does not work with the API - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21081 (gtisza) 16:30 < RoanKattouw> Rygir: Your message got cut off after "Error). Ap' 16:32 -!- Aaron|away [n=chatzill@rbuv-164-107-249-247.resnet.ohio-state.edu] has joined #mediawiki 16:33 -!- Aaron|away is now known as AaronSchulz 16:33 < AaronSchulz> brion: bah, what is the text used to get SVN to replace it with the commit log? 16:35 < Rygir> Apparantly that's too much to handle, but now I'm really stuck... I can't export the page, because it's been deleted and thus exporting only gives me a blank page with no history (unless there's a way to export deleted pages). I can't undelete it because the server can't handle 29k records in one php page apparantly, and I can't split it up into pages because I don't have a clue how to do that and I'd have to modify the sql requests by hand... What other 16:35 < Rygir> is what followed 16:37 -!- GDonato_ [n=GDonato@wikimedia/GDonato] has joined #mediawiki 16:38 < RoanKattouw> Rygir: I'm afraid you're gonna have to go into the database after all 16:38 < RoanKattouw> And destroy or move some spam revisions so you can safely undelete 16:39 < CIA-68> demon * r58652 /trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Add new global $wgUseInstantCommons for quick && easy enabling of Commons for 3rd party sites using sane defaults 16:39 < CIA-68> aaron * r58653 /trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/api/ApiFlagConfig.php: Add quick version info 16:40 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@81.253.26.38] has joined #mediawiki 16:40 -!- BlueHero [n=BlueHero@86.204.233.254] has joined #mediawiki 16:40 -!- BlueHero [n=BlueHero@86.204.233.254] has quit [Client Quit] 16:43 < brion> AaronSchulz: um? 16:43 < brion> context for "it"? :D 16:43 < flyingparchment> i think he means $Log$ 16:44 < CIA-68> demon * r58654 /trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES: Followup r58634, also remove RELEASE-NOTES entry 16:44 < flyingparchment> but svn doesn't support that 16:45 -!- webchat__ [i=bd6697e4@gateway/web/freenode/x-1f8b656e05930008] has joined #mediawiki 16:46 -!- Ryan_Lane [n=chatzill@ip72-204-146-103.no.no.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 16:46 < webchat__> I exported all pages from the files namespace, however the history of uploaded files and uncategorized images remains empty 16:49 < webchat__> the host doesn't allow mysql backups 16:49 -!- Philippe|Wiki is now known as Philippe|BUSY 16:49 < webchat__> had to do a xml dump 16:52 -!- gdonato [n=GDonato@wikimedia/GDonato] has quit [Connection timed out] 16:55 < MaxSem> Rygir, select ar_rev_id from archive where ar_namespace=??? and ar_title='???' order by ar_rev_id limit 10,1 16:55 < Rygir> I'm not against going into the database per sé, I just don't know how to safely remove a revision. It's fine by me if it's totally gone forever, or if I just disable it so I can restore the right ones, then re-enable it to "undo" any inconsistencies 16:57 -!- GreenReaper [n=greenrea@unaffiliated/greenreaper] has joined #mediawiki 17:00 < RoanKattouw> Rygir: The best course of action is probably to rename all but a few deleted revisions to another page title 17:00 < MaxSem> then perform a delete 17:00 < RoanKattouw> No, an undelete 17:02 < MaxSem> no, delete from archive where ar_namespace=??? and ar_title='???' and ar_rev_id > ??? 17:02 < MaxSem> where ??? is the value received from first query 17:02 < Rygir> the namespace is the main namespace 17:02 < RoanKattouw> that's also possible 17:02 < RoanKattouw> My idea was to temporarily move stuff out of the way so it isn't gone forever 17:02 < MaxSem> then ar_namespace=0 in both queries 17:02 < RoanKattouw> So he can verify the stuff he wants to keep is kept, then destroy the rest permanently 17:04 < Rygir> I like that idea :p 17:05 < Rygir> side note : is it normal that a server can't handle a "measly" 29k records? 17:05 < wikibugs> (ASSIGNED) texvc produces misaligned math output for some tex commands - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6636 +comment (cotton) 17:06 -!- Melos [n=Melos@wikimedia/Melos] has quit [Connection timed out] 17:06 < CIA-68> j * r58655 /trunk/extensions/OggHandler/README: update readme to reflect current tools used 17:06 -!- GreenSleeper [n=greenrea@unaffiliated/greenreaper] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 17:06 < wikibugs> (NEW) mistake in includes/EditPage.php - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21420 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (liangent) 17:08 < wikibugs> (mod) mistake in includes/EditPage.php - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21420 (liangent) 17:08 < MaxSem> Rygir, it's 29k HTML snippets in the form 17:08 < MaxSem> it just OOM's 17:08 -!- Netsplit calvino.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: AryehGregor, mark 17:08 -!- chomwitt [n=chomwitt@ppp-94-66-162-77.home.otenet.gr] has joined #mediawiki 17:08 -!- Netsplit calvino.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: svip, Supaplex, slakr 17:08 -!- svip_ [n=svip@prussia.theinfosphere.org] has joined #mediawiki 17:09 -!- Netsplit over, joins: AryehGregor 17:09 -!- Netsplit calvino.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: wikibugs, TerminX, flyingparchment, PHP-Pierre, michi_cc, CIA-68, Rjd0060, Dessa 17:09 -!- PHP-Pierre_ [i=sbnc@get-free-money-to-poker-with-at.no-deposit.info] has joined #mediawiki 17:09 -!- webchat__ [i=bd6697e4@gateway/web/freenode/x-1f8b656e05930008] has left #mediawiki [] 17:09 < Rygir> I know, but 29k*100kb is...hmm is that a GB? I guess that would be a pretty large webpage :x 17:09 -!- ialex [n=IAlex@mediawiki/ialex] has joined #mediawiki 17:09 -!- luminoso [n=lumos@av-217-129-139-239.netvisao.pt] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:10 -!- michi_cc [i=michi@dude.icosahedron.de] has joined #mediawiki 17:10 -!- Netsplit over, joins: wikibugs 17:10 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Rjd0060 17:10 -!- Netsplit over, joins: flyingparchment, slakr 17:10 -!- Reedy [n=Reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:10 -!- TerminX [i=00e0bac6@adsl-68-122-5-46.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #mediawiki 17:11 -!- mark [i=mark@tilia.nedworks.org] has joined #mediawiki 17:11 -!- CIA-68 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #mediawiki 17:12 -!- Supaplex [n=supaplex@166.70.62.193] has joined #mediawiki 17:12 < MaxSem> actually, every line is just 1k, but it still hits PHP memory of an average server easily 17:14 -!- RoanKattouw [n=chatzill@mediawiki/Catrope] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.15/2009102814]"] 17:14 -!- luminoso [n=lumos@217.129.139.239] has joined #mediawiki 17:15 -!- Marco27 [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has joined #mediawiki 17:15 -!- Dessa [n=Dessa@mail.gmake.de] has joined #mediawiki 17:15 -!- chomwitt [n=chomwitt@ppp-94-66-162-77.home.otenet.gr] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 17:16 -!- foksieloy [n=Miranda@93-138-102-104.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #mediawiki 17:17 < CIA-68> btongminh * r58657 /trunk/extensions/GlobalUsage/ (4 files): 17:17 < CIA-68> Changes after review by Andrew: 17:17 < CIA-68> * Changed all hooks to *Complete hooks 17:17 < CIA-68> * Use wfWikiId instead of $wgLocalInterwiki 17:18 -!- KaareAway is now known as Kaare 17:21 -!- JC [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:23 < CIA-68> btongminh * r58658 /trunk/phase3/includes/LinksUpdate.php: Add accessor to LinksUpdate::mImages 17:23 < CIA-68> ariel * r58659 /trunk/extensions/ExternalPages/ExternalPages_body.php: set meaningful Expires: header, validate page title 17:24 -!- Prodego [n=Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego] has quit ["From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"] 17:26 -!- JC [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has joined #mediawiki 17:27 < CIA-68> ialex * r58660 /trunk/phase3/ (CREDITS includes/EditPage.php): * (bug 21420) Fix for r27043: typo 17:28 -!- No1Viking [n=No1Vikin@h-20-197.A259.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #mediawiki 17:28 < wikibugs> (FIXED) mistake in includes/EditPage.php - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21420 +comment (alex.emsenhuber) 17:28 -!- TheWoozle [n=woozle@dsl093-241-126.ral1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:29 -!- NeKit [i=nekit@95-83-6-223.saransk.ru] has joined #mediawiki 17:30 < NeKit> how to replace diff.css with skin's one? 17:30 < wikibugs> (mod) MIME type detection of "application/x-php" gives false positives on any file with " grrr ... does parserTest insert a user into the duplicated user table? 17:38 -!- apergos [n=ariel@wiktionary/ArielGlenn] has joined #mediawiki 17:38 < CIA-68> demon * r58661 /trunk/phase3/includes/HttpFunctions.php: rm unused global 17:39 < MaxSem> no 17:39 < MaxSem> for me, at least 17:39 < freakolowsky> damn ... breaks FKs on oracle 17:39 < CIA-68> werdna * r58662 /trunk/extensions/GlobalUsage/SpecialGlobalUsage.php: Add links to globalusage 17:40 -!- mattis^ [n=mattis@host196-247-dynamic.45-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #mediawiki 17:45 < CIA-68> werdna * r58663 /branches/wmf-deployment/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Update GlobalUsage to trunk state, merge related r53381 17:46 -!- chomwitt [n=chomwitt@ppp-94-66-162-77.home.otenet.gr] has joined #mediawiki 17:46 -!- Melos [n=Melos@wikimedia/Melos] has joined #mediawiki 17:46 < Raymond_> werdan7: are you going to deplay GlobalUsage? 17:46 < Raymond_> werdna: are you going to deplay GlobalUsage? 17:46 < wikibugs> (mod) add a help link in the search box - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21391 +comment (cenarium.sysop) 17:46 -!- heldergeovane [n=helderge@cecserv.ime.usp.br] has joined #mediawiki 17:47 < werdna> Raymond_: to testwiki only 17:47 < Raymond_> deploy... 17:47 < Raymond_> werdna: cool. hopefully to all wikis soon :) 17:47 < werdna> I've reviewed the code and got Brion's okay :) 17:47 < Raymond_> wonderful 17:47 < brion> at least on the theory :D 17:47 < brion> y'all better check it doesn't esplode any security ;) 17:48 < CIA-68> werdna * r58664 /branches/wmf-deployment/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Partial revert of r58663, included random unrelated changes to TorBlock 17:48 -!- heldergeovane [n=helderge@cecserv.ime.usp.br] has quit [Client Quit] 17:48 * MaxSem is writing an annoying tl 17:48 * MaxSem is writing an annoying tldr about reviews for wikitech-l right now=) 17:48 -!- wolog [n=wolog@195.6.104.193] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:48 -!- Bryan [n=launch@wikimedia-commons/Bryan] has joined #mediawiki 17:49 < CIA-68> ariel * r58665 /trunk/phase3/docs/hooks.txt: document CacheHeadersAfterSet hook 17:50 < CIA-68> werdna * r58666 /branches/wmf-deployment/includes/LinksUpdate.php: Restore relevant parts of r58663, which was "partially" reverted in r58664 17:50 -!- svip_ is now known as svip 17:51 -!- New_Nick [n=vinodhra@121.246.13.78] has joined #mediawiki 17:51 -!- zocky [n=zocky@wikipedia/zocky] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:52 < New_Nick> Any of you guys know websites that have free mediawiki skins ? 17:53 < BradLee> New_Nick: have you tried typing "mediawiki"+"skins" into a search engine? 17:53 < freakolowsky> MaxSem: do you happen to know why are DROPs commented in teardownDatabase? 17:54 < CIA-68> werdna * r58667 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/GlobalUsage/GlobalUsage/: Copy GlobalUsage extension to wmf-deployment 17:55 < wikibugs> (NEW) Make "(X intermediate revisions not shown)" clickable. - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21421 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (bugs) 17:55 < freakolowsky> LOL @ demon http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=rev&revision=55360 17:56 < BradLee> New_Nick here are 3 good ones that I know of: 1. http://mediawiki2u.com/ 2. http://paulgu.com/wiki/Mediawiki_Skins and 3. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Gallery_of_user_styles 17:56 -!- cjb` [n=cjb@pullcord.laptop.org] has joined #mediawiki 17:56 -!- cjb [n=cjb@pullcord.laptop.org] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:57 -!- Lapper [n=Lapper@wikimedia/lapper] has joined #mediawiki 17:58 < ^demon> freakolowsky: The funny part being I broke parsertests doing that :D 17:59 < ^demon> MaxSem: Reviews? 17:59 < MaxSem> reviewing process 17:59 < freakolowsky> well these parser test are starting to annoy me ... hitting FK violations on every turn 18:00 -!- Quagmire|GONE is now known as Quagmire 18:00 -!- Anandawardhana [n=AW@124.43.49.233] has joined #mediawiki 18:00 -!- Anandawardhana [n=AW@124.43.49.233] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:01 -!- Anandawardhana [n=AW@124.43.49.233] has joined #mediawiki 18:01 < MaxSem> hmm http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/maintenance/parserTests.inc?r1=39980&r2=40020 18:02 -!- robla [n=robla@c-76-104-247-13.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 18:02 -!- Diamant001 [n=user6398@p579CAD75.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mediawiki 18:02 < freakolowsky> yeah i found that ... but do you know WHY is it so ... 18:02 < New_Nick> NewNick: Yes. I thought some u guys may know the "niche" sites :) (Which usually doesn't show up by googling) 18:03 -!- GreenWireless [n=greenrea@unaffiliated/greenreaper] has joined #mediawiki 18:05 -!- Anubisss [i=Anubisss@ip-170-159-userpool.zeg.zelkanet.hu] has joined #mediawiki 18:06 -!- sDrewth [n=sDrewth@wikisource/billinghurst] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:08 < freakolowsky> MaxSem: 18:08 < freakolowsky> MaxSem: you runnin on Mysql? 18:09 < MaxSem> yes, but only to test if my changes aren't breaking anything 18:09 -!- GreenReaper [n=greenrea@unaffiliated/greenreaper] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:09 -!- GreenWireless is now known as GreenReaper 18:10 < freakolowsky> MaxSem: k ... after a recent crash i haven't setup my Mysql instance yet ... i'll commit somee changest to parserTest ... could you checkout and try if i didn't break anything 18:10 < MaxSem> okie 18:10 < CIA-68> maxsem * r58668 /trunk/phase3/maintenance/parserTests.inc: Removed extra transactions on table creation introduced in r58631, makes no difference 18:12 < CIA-68> freakolowsky * r58669 /trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Started working on parserTests Oracle compatibility, still getting FK violations 18:12 < freakolowsky> here it comes 18:13 < freakolowsky> just so i can sleep better knowing i didn't as usualy break things :D 18:13 < MaxSem> looking 18:13 < wikibugs> (FIXED) image/media workflow improvement - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17085 +comment (innocentkiller) 18:14 -!- Quagmire is now known as Quagmire|GONE 18:14 -!- akozak [n=alex@70-36-134-126.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #mediawiki 18:14 < CIA-68> freakolowsky * r58670 /trunk/phase3/maintenance/ora/tables.sql: Changed duplication function 18:14 < MaxSem> what does parsertest_ --> pt_ achieve? 18:14 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@81.253.26.38] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:15 < freakolowsky> Oracle has name lenght limitation ... 32chars 18:16 < freakolowsky> so ... howmuch 'd i break? 18:16 < MaxSem> pass on mysql 18:16 < freakolowsky> ?? 18:16 -!- ^demon [i=51fd0eb4@mediawiki/demon] has quit ["Page closed"] 18:17 < MaxSem> prefix should definitely be factored out into separate function 18:17 -!- Natalie [n=z@wikipedia/MZMcBride] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:17 -!- stevekent [n=steveken@216.38.133.254] has joined #mediawiki 18:17 < freakolowsky> MaxSem: i know 18:17 < freakolowsky> MaxSem: what was that about pass on mysql? 18:17 < MaxSem> same for drop table 18:17 < MaxSem> all tests work 18:17 < freakolowsky> MaxSem: i know 18:18 < freakolowsky> :D 18:18 < freakolowsky> IMHO aLOT of thing shoud be abstracted 18:18 < MaxSem> yeah, let's delay 1.16 for a couple more months 18:19 < freakolowsky> ok ql ... i'm out now ... have to install a radio in my mother's car, then home to feed the cat then PAAAAAHTEEEEEEEEY!!!! 18:19 < freakolowsky> MaxSem: I bet a lot of people would just LOVE that 18:19 * freakolowsky ist one of those people 18:20 -!- Pathoschild [n=Jesse@wikimedia/Pathoschild] has joined #mediawiki 18:20 < freakolowsky> MaxSem: 10x 4 ur help ... i'm off now ... back tomorow ... maybe :D 18:20 < MaxSem> bye) 18:20 -!- freakolowsky [n=freakolo@84.255.254.147] has quit ["PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY!"] 18:20 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@wikipedia/duesentrieb] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:20 -!- Natalie [n=z@wikipedia/MZMcBride] has joined #mediawiki 18:22 -!- Philippe|BUSY [n=Philippe@wikimedia/Philippe] has left #mediawiki [] 18:25 -!- wolog [n=wolog@AOrleans-152-1-37-61.w90-21.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #mediawiki 18:25 -!- enomil [n=enomil@wikimedia/Enomil] has quit ["( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.21 :: www.esnation.com )"] 18:26 < CIA-68> ariel * r58671 /trunk/extensions/ExternalPages/ExternalPages_body.php: use Title:newFromText instead of checking wgLegalTitleChars 18:27 < CIA-68> aaron * r58672 /trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php: Clearify precedence a bit using FR_QUALITY 18:27 -!- BradLee [n=chatzill@CPE-124-180-243-37.lns11.lon.bigpond.net.au] has left #mediawiki [] 18:27 < NeKit> how to replace diff.css with skin's one? 18:28 -!- Bryan [n=launch@wikimedia-commons/Bryan] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 18:29 -!- juliano [n=juliano@2001:0:53aa:64c:49d:21c3:36d4:b38f] has joined #mediawiki 18:29 -!- New_Nick [n=vinodhra@121.246.13.78] has quit [] 18:30 -!- tomaszf [n=tomaszf@98.210.153.193] has quit [] 18:30 -!- guillom [n=guillaum@wikimedia/guillom] has quit ["quit"] 18:31 -!- cjb` is now known as cjb 18:33 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@81.253.49.125] has joined #mediawiki 18:41 -!- PDD [i=PDD@wikipedia/PDD] has joined #mediawiki 18:41 -!- Sean_Colombo [n=sean@75-101-56-124.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #mediawiki 18:42 < Sean_Colombo> I have a user who is in the group "Bots" and DOES have the 'bot' right at runtime, yet he still shows up in RecentChanges and is making RecentChanges unusable. ...any ideas on what might be wrong or how I could fix this? 18:42 < Sean_Colombo> (and yes, "Hide bots" is on) 18:43 < charitwo> which wiki is this 18:43 < Sean_Colombo> LyricWiki 18:43 < Sean_Colombo> http://lyrics.wikia.com/Special:RecentChanges 18:43 -!- TrevorParscal [n=TrevorPa@216.38.133.254] has joined #mediawiki 18:43 -!- RobH__ [n=RobH@68.63.45.252] has joined #mediawiki 18:43 < charitwo> Sean_Colombo: have the bot logout and log back in 18:44 -!- RobH__ [n=RobH@68.63.45.252] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:44 < Sean_Colombo> he's done that several times :( 18:44 -!- RobH__ [n=RobH@68.63.45.252] has joined #mediawiki 18:44 < charitwo> sometimes a log cycle is needed to perpetuate rights changes 18:44 < charitwo> Sean_Colombo: may need to speak with other wikia techs 18:44 -!- Lapper_ [n=Lapper@wikimedia/lapper] has joined #mediawiki 18:44 -!- RobH__ is now known as RobH 18:45 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@81.253.26.38] has joined #mediawiki 18:47 < charitwo> Sean_Colombo: looking at Special:ListUsers, your changes aren't all the way caught up with themselves, so that might be part of the problem 18:47 < Amgine> Isn't that a wikia site? 18:47 < charitwo> yes 18:50 -!- Lapper [n=Lapper@wikimedia/lapper] has quit [Connection timed out] 18:54 < CIA-68> raymond * r58673 /trunk/ (103 files in 73 dirs): Localisation updates for core and extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-11-06 17:00 UTC) 18:54 -!- brion [n=brion@wikipedia/Brion-VIBBER] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 18:55 -!- aude [n=chatzill@wikipedia/Aude] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 18:57 -!- mdale [n=dale@pdpc/supporter/student/mdale] has quit ["Leaving."] 18:59 -!- guioconnor [n=Adium@nat/yahoo/x-a15b0597be9d512f] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 19:00 -!- tomaszf [n=tomaszf@216.38.133.254] has joined #mediawiki 19:03 < CIA-68> raymond * r58674 /trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/MediaWikiExtensions.php: GlobalUsage deployed on test.wikipedia.org today 19:03 -!- brion [n=brion@wikipedia/Brion-VIBBER] has joined #mediawiki 19:04 -!- brion [n=brion@wikipedia/Brion-VIBBER] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:04 -!- malafaya [n=chatzill@195-23-53-14.net.novis.pt] has joined #mediawiki 19:04 < malafaya> is it possible to blacklist a word only in the main namespace? 19:06 -!- robla [n=robla@ip65-47-28-158.z28-47-65.customer.algx.net] has joined #mediawiki 19:07 -!- Raymond_ is now known as Raymond_afk 19:08 -!- zrh [n=zrh@dynamic-80-242-196-236.catv.glattnet.ch] has joined #mediawiki 19:09 -!- Natalie [n=z@wikipedia/MZMcBride] has quit [Excess Flood] 19:11 -!- simonrvn [i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn] has joined #mediawiki 19:12 -!- Vyznev [n=ilmari@mediawiki/Ilmari-Karonen] has quit ["leaving"] 19:13 -!- stevekent_ [n=steveken@216.38.133.254] has joined #mediawiki 19:13 -!- Natalie [n=z@wikipedia/MZMcBride] has joined #mediawiki 19:13 -!- j^ [n=j@81.253.40.243] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:14 -!- Shinjiman [n=hkman117@203-206-33-244.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #mediawiki 19:14 < Sean_Colombo> charitwo: it looks like you have to set a "bot" flag when using the MW API and my framework doesn't set that 19:14 < Sean_Colombo> might be the issue... testing 19:14 -!- Strict [i=Italy39m@194.54.54.235] has joined #mediawiki 19:14 < charitwo> a bot flag will work regardless of how the edit is made if things are working correctly 19:14 < Strict> hi 19:14 < Sean_Colombo> yup that did it. Thanks for the help :) 19:14 < Strict> anyone can help 19:15 < Strict> i m looking for a dictionary script 19:15 -!- stevekent [n=steveken@216.38.133.254] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 19:15 -!- stevekent_ is now known as stevekent 19:15 -!- simonrvn [i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn] has quit [Client Quit] 19:15 < Sean_Colombo> charitwo: apparently not with the api at the moment. check this out: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Edit_-_Create%26Edit_pages 19:16 < Sean_Colombo> look under "Parameters". That's a bit counter-intuitive :) 19:16 < charitwo> never had an issue before, and i use two different frameworks which utilize the API for automated editing 19:17 -!- zrh is now known as zrh|AFK 19:18 -!- apergos [n=ariel@wiktionary/ArielGlenn] has quit ["Leaving."] 19:24 -!- Pathoschild [n=Jesse@wikimedia/Pathoschild] has quit ["*poof*"] 19:25 -!- Strict [i=Italy39m@194.54.54.235] has quit [] 19:26 -!- Rgoodermote [n=Rgooderm@wikia/Rgoodermote] has joined #mediawiki 19:27 < malafaya> is it possible to blacklist a word only in the main namespace? 19:27 -!- mgrabovsky [n=MGrab@wikipedia/Mat--j-Grabovsk--] has quit ["Carpe diem"] 19:28 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@81.253.26.38] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:28 -!- simonrvn [i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn] has joined #mediawiki 19:30 -!- jwyg [n=jwyg@78-105-152-72.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has joined #mediawiki 19:31 -!- jwyg [n=jwyg@78-105-152-72.zone3.bethere.co.uk] has quit [Client Quit] 19:33 < CIA-68> aaron * r58675 /trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 19:33 < CIA-68> * Added getDefaultVisibilitySettings() and useProtectionLevels() 19:33 < CIA-68> * Moved invalid config handling to getPageVisibilitySettings() 19:33 < CIA-68> * Made stabilization enforce protection levels too since the API will use this 19:33 < CIA-68> * Some minor cleanups 19:35 -!- Anandawardhana [n=AW@124.43.49.233] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 19:36 < CIA-68> aaron * r58676 /trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.hooks.php: Use useProtectionLevels() in some places 19:37 -!- Amgine [n=Amgine@wikinews/Amgine] has quit [] 19:38 -!- Amgine [n=Amgine@wikinews/Amgine] has joined #Mediawiki 19:39 -!- Amgine [n=Amgine@wikinews/Amgine] has quit [Client Quit] 19:39 -!- GDonato_ [n=GDonato@wikimedia/GDonato] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:40 -!- trev [n=trev@205.158.109.36.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #mediawiki 19:42 -!- stevekent [n=steveken@216.38.133.254] has quit [] 19:43 -!- Hosiryuhosi [n=Hosiryuh@wikipedia/Hosiryuhosi] has quit ["Leaving..."] 19:43 < siebrand> TrevorParscal: "Quick preview" is the best suggestion so far (out of 5 or so) 19:44 < TrevorParscal> interesting 19:44 < TrevorParscal> sounds pretty good 19:44 < TrevorParscal> we will probably use that language in the preferences and such 19:44 < TrevorParscal> thanks for helping us with that 19:44 < siebrand> TrevorParscal: yeah, I was kind of amazed how simple it is :) 19:45 < siebrand> TrevorParscal: it was a German suggesting it, of course... http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Support&diff=1660374&oldid=1660282&curid=71166 19:45 < siebrand> TrevorParscal: oh, it was Mormegil who came up with it. 19:49 -!- zrh|AFK is now known as zrh 19:51 < wikibugs> (mod) New gadgets not saved in preferences - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21414 +comment (alex.emsenhuber) 19:57 -!- Bjelleklang [n=Bjellekl@wikipedia/Bjelleklang] has joined #mediawiki 19:57 -!- putnik [n=putnik@83.234.74.8] has joined #mediawiki 19:58 -!- stevekent [n=steveken@216.38.133.254] has joined #mediawiki 19:58 -!- malafaya [n=chatzill@wikimedia/Malafaya] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091016092926]"] 19:58 -!- xbaez [n=xbaez@200.34.201.2] has joined #mediawiki 20:03 < CIA-68> tparscal * r58677 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Merged the code module into the core wikiEditor plugin. Got started on merging/converting the jquery.textSelection.js functionality into the core wikiEditor plugin as well. 20:09 -!- Reedy [n=Reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has joined #mediawiki 20:10 * Natalie uses charitwo as floss. 20:10 < wikibugs> (mod) Exact search does not work with the API - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21081 +comment (roan.kattouw) 20:11 -!- rainman-sr [n=rainman@84.69.34.199] has quit [Read error: 148 (No route to host)] 20:12 * MaxSem cattle-prods Natalie 20:12 -!- RoanKattouw [i=3ec22ec2@mediawiki/Catrope] has joined #mediawiki 20:12 < Natalie> Harder. 20:13 < CIA-68> tparscal * r58678 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/js/plugins/jquery.wikiEditor.js: Effin closures man! 20:14 -!- mode/#mediawiki [-v Natalie] by ChanServ 20:15 -!- rdjong [n=rdjong@h78052.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #mediawiki 20:17 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@wikipedia/duesentrieb] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 20:18 < CIA-68> tparscal * r58679 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/js/plugins/ (jquery.wikiEditor.toc.js jquery.wikiEditor.toolbar.js): Started pushing towards conversion to interacting with the iframe rather than the textarea. 20:19 -!- stevekent [n=steveken@216.38.133.254] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:19 -!- stevekent [n=steveken@216.38.133.254] has joined #mediawiki 20:22 -!- flubub1113 [n=Flubub@88.67.124.55] has quit ["Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de"] 20:23 -!- Dantman [n=dantman@wikia/dantman] has quit ["http://daniel.friesen.name or ELSE!"] 20:29 -!- Dantman [n=dantman@wikia/dantman] has joined #mediawiki 20:31 -!- Lapper [n=Lapper@wikimedia/lapper] has joined #mediawiki 20:35 -!- Lapper [n=Lapper@wikimedia/lapper] has quit [Success] 20:35 -!- Marco27_ [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has joined #mediawiki 20:35 -!- Lapper [n=Lapper@wikimedia/lapper] has joined #mediawiki 20:37 -!- yoyo[RKN] is now known as yoyo_afk 20:39 -!- Marco27 [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:39 -!- Marco27_ is now known as Marco27 20:39 -!- RoanKattouw [i=3ec22ec2@mediawiki/Catrope] has left #mediawiki [] 20:40 -!- RoanKattouw [i=3ec22ec2@mediawiki/Catrope] has joined #mediawiki 20:40 -!- Lapper_ [n=Lapper@wikimedia/lapper] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:44 -!- jayne [i=maddhatt@freenode/staff/jayne] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:44 -!- jayne [i=maddhatt@freenode/staff/jayne] has joined #mediawiki 20:45 -!- rainman-sr [n=rainman@user-544522c7.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #mediawiki 20:46 < wikibugs> (mod) Exact search does not work with the API - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21081 (gtisza) 20:47 -!- msh210 [n=msh210@wiktionary/msh210] has joined #mediawiki 20:48 -!- zai [n=zai@p4FC841F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mediawiki 20:48 < msh210> Hi, all. enwikt has interwiki links listed on a special page ([[en:wikt:special:recentchanges]]). Where is the list of languages from? 20:52 -!- rdjong [n=rdjong@h78052.upc-h.chello.nl] has left #mediawiki [] 20:53 < wikibugs> (mod) Exact search does not work with the API - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21081 (roan.kattouw) 20:55 -!- Sean_Colombo [n=sean@75-101-56-124.dsl.static.sonic.net] has left #mediawiki [] 20:55 < zrh> MediaWiki goes Git, interesting: http://scytale.name/blog/2009/11/announcing-levitation 20:55 -!- Quagmire|GONE is now known as Quagmire 20:57 -!- msh210 [n=msh210@wiktionary/msh210] has quit ["so far away. Doesn't anybody stay in one place any more?"] 20:57 -!- AaronSchulz [n=chatzill@rbuv-164-107-249-247.resnet.ohio-state.edu] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:57 < RoanKattouw> zrh: Note that this seeks to put the Wikipedia *articles* into Git. There's a separate discussion about whether we should eventually move the MediaWiki *codebase* to Git 20:58 < zrh> RoanKattouw: Duly noted. 20:59 -!- Amgine [n=Amgine@wikinews/Amgine] has joined #Mediawiki 21:00 -!- Lapper [n=Lapper@wikimedia/lapper] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:00 < MaxSem> meh, another git fanboy going to write a new shiny distributed Wikipedia, free from established code and admins cabal 21:02 -!- madsj [n=mads@130.227.120.134] has joined #mediawiki 21:02 < madsj> hi; is it possible to block access to pages based on a variable in a plugin ? 21:02 -!- stevekent is now known as stevekent-lunch 21:06 < zrh> MaxSem: No chance IMHO ... too much work ... living with WP is easier than creating a new one. 21:06 < zrh> MaxMmm: Plus - Germans like to complain, not to act. 21:06 < madsj> it seems that the wgAllow-variables refer to username of mediawiki ? 21:13 -!- putnik [n=putnik@wikimedia/putnik] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 21:14 -!- Pathoschild [n=Jesse@wikimedia/Pathoschild] has joined #mediawiki 21:14 -!- reid08 [n=reid85@CPE001cdf73661f-CM001ceacec55e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:16 < Amgine> MaxSem: I dream of writing a gopher interface for Mw... 21:17 -!- Quagmire is now known as Quagmire|GONE 21:19 -!- Mike_lifeguard [n=Mike@wikimedia/mikelifeguard] has joined #mediawiki 21:20 -!- Rgoodermote [n=Rgooderm@wikia/Rgoodermote] has quit [] 21:20 -!- zrh [n=zrh@dynamic-80-242-196-236.catv.glattnet.ch] has quit [] 21:22 -!- Diamant001 [n=user6398@p579CAD75.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 21:22 < MaxSem> gopher is dead, let it rot in piece 21:23 -!- meitar [n=meitar@75-101-56-5.dsl.static.sonic.net] has joined #mediawiki 21:23 -!- Jinx [i=Dojo@99.190.86.39] has quit ["reboot"] 21:24 -!- Marco27 [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:25 -!- enomil [n=enomil@wikimedia/Enomil] has joined #mediawiki 21:25 < Amgine> it would be worth it just as an excercise in worthless... 21:26 < Amgine> 21:32 < wikibugs> (NEW) Bug makes it impossible to create a new page in Firefox - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21422 major; Normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (support) 21:33 -!- madsj [n=mads@130.227.120.134] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 21:33 < wikibugs> (INVALID) Bug makes it impossible to create a new page in Firefox - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21422 +comment (roan.kattouw) 21:36 -!- Skizzerz [n=skizzerz@mediawiki/Skizzerz] has joined #mediawiki 21:36 < wikibugs> (mod) Bug makes it impossible to create a new page in Firefox - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21422 (support) 21:38 -!- Jo0oker [n=jo0oker@p54823CF3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mediawiki 21:38 < Jo0oker> Hello 21:38 -!- Diamant001 [n=user6398@p579CA38D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mediawiki 21:38 < Jo0oker> i have a question, 21:39 < Jo0oker> when i tried to install Media Wiki, i get the following Message: 21:39 < Jo0oker> Creating tables...Query "CREATE UNIQUE INDEX user_name ON `spe_user` (user_name) " failed with error code "Access denied for user 'web49'@'localhost' to database 'usr_web49_5' (localhost)". 21:39 < Jo0oker> but i don't know what i made wrong 21:39 < Jo0oker> when i use google, nothign helps ): 21:41 < Jo0oker> is there anybody who have an answer? 21:43 -!- zrh [n=zrh@dynamic-80-242-196-236.catv.glattnet.ch] has joined #mediawiki 21:43 < AryehGregor> Does anyone have any opinions on this? My inclination is that if anyone wants to be malicious, they can just put the Jo0oker: Apparently your database user doesn't have permission to create indexes. If this is your host, fix it; if it's someone else's host or shared hosting, slap your hoster 21:44 < AryehGregor> Or give the correct user. 21:44 < RoanKattouw> AryehGregor: Depends. Is this our own check, or is it in IEContentAnalyzer? 21:44 < Jo0oker> ok, i will slap my hoster :D 21:44 < AryehGregor> RoanKattouw, it's in MimeMagic.php. 21:44 -!- rlarson87 [n=reid85@CPE001cdf73661f-CM001ceacec55e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #mediawiki 21:44 < AryehGregor> AFAIK, triggered only on upload. 21:44 < RoanKattouw> AryehGregor: If it fails on a CREATE INDEX, it presumbaly has created a bunch of tables already 21:45 < RoanKattouw> Then it's probably OK to remove 21:45 < RoanKattouw> I don't recall IEContentAnalyzer mentioning PHP 21:45 < AryehGregor> Why would IE care about a server-side language? 21:45 -!- otaku2038 [n=otaku203@76-229-249-145.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #mediawiki 21:46 < otaku2038> wiki move to new machines question - what is the proper and least painfull steps to move wikidata from one machine to another 21:46 < MaxSem> if the extension is not .php, you only need to check for something like #/bin/php in the beginning to make sure it wouldn't be execute by webserver 21:46 < Natalie> otaku2038: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Moving_a_wiki 21:47 < AryehGregor> #!/usr/bin/php would be more usual. 21:47 < AryehGregor> Also: you never know! 21:47 < MaxSem> whatever, ye linux crowd 21:47 < AryehGregor> But it's pointless anyway, because it hits only the first 256 bytes or something, if I'm not mistaken. 21:47 * AryehGregor might be mistaken 21:47 < otaku2038> Natalie: Thanks 21:48 < AryehGregor> No, it's 1024 bytes. 21:48 < AryehGregor> Doesn't matter, an attacker can just add padding. 21:48 -!- enomil` [n=enomil@wikimedia/Enomil] has joined #mediawiki 21:49 < Jo0oker> hm, i have no rights in phpMyAdmin 21:49 < Jo0oker> shit 21:49 < CIA-68> shinjiman * r58680 /trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Literary Chinese 21:50 < AryehGregor> Bleh, it seems like guessMimeType() is used in a bunch of places. 21:50 * MaxSem crafts a proof-of concept file 21:50 < AryehGregor> I'll be on the safe side and just kill the three-byte strings for now, to reduce random false positives by a factor of 64k. 21:51 < RoanKattouw> otaku2038: Make a full dump of your database, then import that on the new location. Also copy over all PHP files. After tweaking some settings in LocalSettings.php to reflect the new situation, you should be good to go 21:52 < MaxSem> http://toolserver.org/~maxsem/tmp/foo.gif 21:52 -!- Marco27 [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has joined #mediawiki 21:53 < otaku2038> RoanKattouw:thanks 21:56 < MaxSem> hmm, at least it didn't allow me to upload a .gif that starts with #!/usr/bin/php 21:57 < MaxSem> but srsly, does content sniffer just check for "GIF87a" in the beginning? 21:57 < CIA-68> shinjiman * r58681 /trunk/extensions/DynamicPageList/ (7 files): 21:57 < CIA-68> Update the DPL codebase to 1.8.9. 21:57 < CIA-68> code based on Gero aka Algorithmix 21:57 -!- charitwo [n=charitwo@wikia/Charitwo] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:59 -!- charitwo [n=charitwo@wikia/Charitwo] has joined #mediawiki 21:59 -!- kbmaniac [n=dave@host86-164-13-123.range86-164.btcentralplus.com] has joined #mediawiki 22:01 -!- Papertiger [i=tiger@e180067148.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:01 -!- otaku2038 [n=otaku203@76-229-249-145.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:02 < RoanKattouw> MaxSem: I think it does. At least IEContentAnalyzer does 22:03 < CIA-68> simetrical * r58682 /trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/MimeMagic.php): (log message trimmed) 22:03 < CIA-68> Reduce false positives for PHP in MimeMagic 22:03 < CIA-68> (bug 16583) This was detecting PHP if any of a few three-byte strings 22:03 < CIA-68> occurred anywhere in the first 1024 bytes of the file. This is too 22:03 < CIA-68> paranoid -- it creates a significant number of false positives for 22:03 < CIA-68> binary files, reportedly on the order of about one every 4096 uploads. 22:03 < CIA-68> It's hard to see what security advantage this check every conveyed, 22:03 < AryehGregor> MaxSem, content sniffing doesn't have to be correct to be useful for security. It just has to match other content-sniffing. 22:04 < RoanKattouw> That's the story of IEContentAnalyzer's like 22:05 < RoanKattouw> And how it checks for 22:05 -!- enomil [n=enomil@wikimedia/Enomil] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:06 -!- Papiertiger [i=tiger@e180067148.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #mediawiki 22:06 * Natalie analyzes charitwo's content. 22:06 < Natalie> Corrupt. :-( 22:06 * charitwo 403's Natalie 22:07 < MaxSem> ...or even AryehGregor: I was thinking that if we want to, we could throw uploads into PHP's native parser, which will bail fast enough for stuff that looks like PHP but really isn't, and only take time for stuff that actually validates as PHP 22:07 < AryehGregor> Interesting thought. 22:07 < AryehGregor> Seems a little scary. It exposes us to PHP parsing bugs. 22:08 < RoanKattouw> What kind of bugs would that be? 22:08 < RoanKattouw> I guess it could be a DOS vector, you could like concatenate all .php files in MediaWiki and feed that to it, that'll take some time to validate 22:09 < wikibugs> (mod) MIME type detection of "application/x-php" gives false positives on any file with " RoanKattouw, I mean if the PHP parser has an arbitrary code execution bug. 22:09 < RoanKattouw> Ah, right 22:09 < RoanKattouw> It really just tokenizes stuff though 22:09 < AryehGregor> It probably won't be patched quickly or reported widely, since hey, you'll only hit it if it's about to execute the code anyway, right? 22:10 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@81.253.40.243] has joined #mediawiki 22:10 < AryehGregor> You might be right, I have no idea how PHP does its parsing. 22:10 -!- stevekent-lunch is now known as stevekent 22:10 < AryehGregor> It might not be a serious issue. 22:10 < AryehGregor> I don't know if we really care whether a file is PHP, though. 22:11 -!- sDrewth [n=sDrewth@wikisource/billinghurst] has joined #mediawiki 22:13 -!- putnik [n=putnik@83.234.74.7] has joined #mediawiki 22:14 -!- yoyo_afk is now known as yoyo_RKN 22:20 -!- FrereJacques [n=quassel@pD9E779E0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mediawiki 22:20 < FrereJacques> Hi everyone! 22:22 < zrh> Hi! 22:22 < FrereJacques> I started a Mediawiki-Wiki on my Ubuntu-PC. Now I want to transfer this Wiki to a web server. Is there something like a HowTo how to do this? 22:25 < MaxSem> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Moving_a_wiki 22:26 < FrereJacques> MaxSem: Thank you! Don't know why I didn' t find this site. I'll just try it. 22:36 -!- sDrewth is now known as sDrewthedoff 22:38 < FrereJacques> Wow. The MySQL-Import seems to be kind of tricky. OK, I'll go on trying. Thanks ... and see you! 22:38 -!- FrereJacques [n=quassel@pD9E779E0.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:41 -!- putnik [n=putnik@wikimedia/putnik] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:42 < Mike_lifeguard> Is there any way of overriding AbuseFilter's automatic self-disabling when a filter matches >5% of edits? 22:42 < Mike_lifeguard> This means a vandal can simply bypass the filter by editing a lot. 22:46 -!- JW|AFK is now known as Jake_Wartenberg 22:46 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@81.253.15.129] has joined #mediawiki 22:47 -!- zrh [n=zrh@dynamic-80-242-196-236.catv.glattnet.ch] has quit [] 22:50 -!- Bamieater [i=Melvin@53566C45.cable.casema.nl] has joined #mediawiki 23:00 < wikibugs> (mod) codereview.sql not utf-8 clean - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21407 (ewetoo) 23:01 -!- trev [n=trev@205.158.109.36.ptr.us.xo.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:02 -!- LauraHale [n=laurahal@adsl-99-144-230-190.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #mediawiki 23:04 -!- Danny_B [n=Danny_B@wikimedia/Danny-B.] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:05 -!- Danny_B [n=Danny_B@129.168.broadband9.iol.cz] has joined #mediawiki 23:09 -!- Marco27 [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has quit ["'Notte! 'Night!"] 23:10 -!- Merlissimo [n=Merlissi@wikimedia/Merlissimo] has quit ["No Ping reply in 90 seconds."] 23:10 -!- Merlissimo_ [n=Merlissi@v32209.1blu.de] has joined #mediawiki 23:11 -!- Mike_lifeguard is now known as Mike||gone 23:12 -!- Mike||gone is now known as Mike_lifeguard 23:21 -!- LauraHale is now known as Laura|AtWork 23:22 < CIA-68> siebrand * r58683 /trunk/extensions/Translate/ (6 files in 3 dirs): 23:22 < CIA-68> * Allow special page aliases variables other than $aliases for MediaWiki extensions 23:22 < CIA-68> * use this for Wikilog 23:29 -!- rainman-sr [n=rainman@user-544522c7.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:31 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@81.253.15.129] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:31 -!- Skizzerz [n=skizzerz@mediawiki/Skizzerz] has quit ["*poof*"] 23:33 -!- Platonides [n=Platonid@wikipedia/Platonides] has joined #mediawiki 23:34 * Alphos pokes Amgine... 23:34 -!- wikitesti [i=5d2d5794@gateway/web/freenode/x-txpunvpuauqtjavc] has joined #mediawiki 23:34 < Alphos> so, how do I update to 1.15 already ? :p 23:34 * Alphos ducks again :p 23:35 -!- Phantom_Hoover [n=chatzill@92-233-174-117.cable.ubr21.sgyl.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #mediawiki 23:35 < Phantom_Hoover> Hello 23:35 < Platonides> !update | Alphos 23:35 < mwbot> Alphos: update.php is a script that updates the database tables. You usually need to run it after upgrading MediaWiki or installing certain extensions. For details, see 23:35 < wikitesti> Hi ... 23:35 < wikibugs> (NEW) extensions DataPhp - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21423 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AdminLinks; (rombiama) 23:35 < wikitesti> I have a question 23:35 < wikitesti> I want to display all page in category ... how i doing? 23:36 < Alphos> Platonides i know, it's just a joke between Amgine and me ^^ 23:36 < Phantom_Hoover> I have been attempting to get a wiki to allow uploads, but the images are created in directories inaccessible to the server. 23:36 < Alphos> wikitesti : you go to [[Category:the category you want]] 23:36 < wikitesti> ok 23:36 -!- LionsMane [n=don@c-98-216-253-71.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 23:36 < wikitesti> but i want ... 23:36 < wikitesti> to insert in a page 23:37 < wikitesti> all page in [category:xxx] 23:37 -!- ssbor [i=sb@CPE001e8ce72ac2-CM00111ae67ff8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #mediawiki 23:37 < Amgine> jfgi 23:37 < Alphos> :D 23:37 < Alphos> you meant rtfm :p 23:37 < Alphos> wikitesti : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree 23:39 < wikitesti> thanks .... 23:39 < Phantom_Hoover> It would appear that you can also do it with the dpl... 23:39 < wikitesti> now im try 23:39 -!- webchat__ [i=bd6697e4@gateway/web/freenode/x-pghvrxhmlhvcbqfq] has joined #mediawiki 23:39 -!- Bjelleklang [n=Bjellekl@wikipedia/Bjelleklang] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 23:39 < webchat__> you know easyphp? I"m trying to find the php shell to execute php scripts 23:39 < Alphos> webchat__ : i take it you are on windows ? 23:39 < webchat__> yes 23:39 < Alphos> open cmd.exe 23:40 < Alphos> and there's your shell :) 23:40 < CIA-68> tomasz * r58684 /trunk/extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Removing 2008 theming in favor of integrated look 23:40 < OverlordQ> i'm confused @ bug report 21423 23:40 < Alphos> it's not easyphp-specific 23:40 < webchat__> php is not recognized as ... 23:40 < ssbor> I just updated from mediawiki 1.12 to 1.15.1 on an in-development wiki: For some reason, wikitables (by class) no longer appear formatted (just a borderless, backgroundless table). The common.css has not changed and still includes formatting for the wikitable class. 23:40 < Alphos> webchat__ : look it up in easyphp documentation 23:41 -!- groundup [n=groundup@pool-74-102-164-18.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:41 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@wikipedia/duesentrieb] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:43 < Platonides> ssbor, the value of $wgUseSiteCss shouldn't have changed by itself 23:43 < Platonides> is it perhaps trying to load from a different url? 23:43 < CIA-68> siebrand * r58685 /trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/MediaWikiExtensions.php: Follow-up r58683: fix oversights 23:44 < ssbor> Patonides: where would I find the value of that variable to check it? 23:45 < webchat__> $ C:\path\to\php\php-win.exe C:\path\to\mediawiki\maintenance\rebuildall.php 23:47 < ssbor> excuse my misspelling of your username, platonides 23:48 -!- TrevorParscal [n=TrevorPa@216.38.133.254] has quit [] 23:48 < Platonides> the default value is true, so unless it was added to Localsettings with the value false, it shouldn't matter 23:49 < ssbor> it is not in the localsettings file 23:49 < Platonides> is common.css loaded on the page header? 23:49 < webchat__> nothing happened 23:49 < Platonides> a line like 23:49 < webchat__> script executed but no output, just a line break 23:49 < ssbor> Hmmm 23:49 < ssbor> no, it's not 23:49 < Platonides> php-win doesn't give output 23:49 < ssbor> that is unusual 23:50 < ssbor> Well, that explains the lack of formatting 23:50 < webchat__> job queue is empty 23:50 < ssbor> now the issue is why that's missing 23:50 < webchat__> nothing was rebuilded? 23:50 -!- JC [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.14/2009082707]"] 23:50 -!- JeroenDeDauw [n=Admin@e180067148.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #mediawiki 23:50 < Platonides> is it monobook or a different skin? 23:50 < ssbor> It's a different skin 23:50 < ssbor> 23:50 < ssbor> Is what is present 23:50 < wikibugs> (mod) Make "(X intermediate revisions not shown)" clickable. - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21421 +comment (alex.emsenhuber) 23:50 < Platonides> that doesn't look good 23:50 < Platonides> which skin? 23:51 < Platonides> if it's a customized skin it may need to be updated 23:51 < ssbor> It's monobook, but it's a custom copy 23:51 < Platonides> monobook code has changed from 1.12 to 1.15.1 23:51 < ssbor> So do I have to re-copy the 15.1 monobook and re-customize it? 23:51 < Platonides> yes 23:52 < ssbor> Will I have to continue to do that every time mediawiki updates? 23:52 -!- trev [n=trev@205.158.109.36.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #mediawiki 23:52 < Platonides> you can diff the old monobook with your changed version 23:52 < ssbor> That seems like it would make a custom skin rather tedious to maintain 23:52 < Platonides> and the old monobook with the new one 23:52 < Alphos> what did you customize ssbor ? 23:52 -!- Jake_Wartenberg is now known as JW|AFK 23:52 < ssbor> The monobook was updated, as I did not use it 23:52 < Alphos> the css, the js, or the php file ? 23:52 < ssbor> so I just overwrote that 23:52 -!- juliano [n=juliano@2001:0:53aa:64c:49d:21c3:36d4:b38f] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:52 < ssbor> I'd have to confirm what I've changes 23:53 < ssbor> changed 23:53 < ssbor> the CSS is definately changed 23:53 < ssbor> It was a while ago 23:53 < Platonides> ssbor, you can get from the repository a 1.12 copy to compare 23:53 < webchat__> :( execute with php.exe got "MySQL connection is missing" 23:53 -!- Phantom_Hoover [n=chatzill@92-233-174-117.cable.ubr21.sgyl.blueyonder.co.uk] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.4/20091028153816]"] 23:53 < ssbor> 1 moment please 23:53 < Platonides> changes just to the css wouldn't be much affected 23:53 < webchat__> not connection, functions 23:53 < Alphos> if you want to apply css or js to a monobook, edit [[MediaWiki:Monobook.css]] or [[MediaWiki:Monobook.js]] on your wiki 23:53 < Alphos> !jfgi | webchat__ 23:53 < mwbot> webchat__: I don't know anything about "jfgi". 23:54 < Alphos> hm, they removed it :( 23:54 < webchat__> jfgi? 23:54 < ssbor> I think I'll just wipe it and try to rebuild from the 15.1 23:54 < Alphos> just fetch google on it 23:55 < Alphos> "Please search on Google, this is not the place for this kind of question. Keep in mind this channel is for MediaWiki, and nothing else." 23:55 < ssbor> AFAIK, I only used the [[mediawiki:myskin]] system to edit the skin after copying it 23:55 < ssbor> but I can't swear to it 23:55 < ssbor> I'll see if I can rebuild it and if something's wrong, I'll come back later 23:55 < ssbor> Thanks for the help guys 23:55 < Alphos> ssbor then no modifications on that should happen when you update anything 23:56 < webchat__> http://www.jcxsoftware.com/jcx/node/404 he 23:56 < webchat__> found it 23:56 < webchat__> so it looks like a commented out line in php.ini 23:56 < ssbor> Alphos: the thing is it's not monobook - it's a copy (with an alternate name to distinguish it) because I felt it more appropriate to offer monobook unedited as a user option and create a new skin for my desired default look 23:57 < ssbor> so all the files for this skin are 1.12 era 23:57 < ssbor> I guess that's a problem? 23:57 < Alphos> well, use [[MediaWiki:.css]] 23:57 < ssbor> I plan to 23:57 < ssbor> but I mean, I didn't overwrite my skin's files with the new monobook files 23:57 < ssbor> I guess I have to do that 23:58 < ssbor> maybe that will resolve the whole deal 23:58 < webchat__> uh... mysql is active 23:58 < webchat__> how so? 23:59 -!- Bdka [n=bdk@wikipedia/bdka] has joined #mediawiki 23:59 < Alphos> webchat__ please search on Google, this is not the place for this kind of question. Keep in mind this channel is for MediaWiki, and nothing else. --- Log closed Sat Nov 07 00:00:13 2009