--- Log opened Sat Nov 14 00:00:05 2009 --- Day changed Sat Nov 14 2009 00:00 * GreenReaper hearts lynx. 00:00 < TimStarling> mosaic = bloatware 00:01 < NivFreak> I use elinks more than lynx now days 00:02 -!- _ITrace [n=justinst@216.81.188.2] has joined #mediawiki 00:02 -!- ITrace [n=justinst@216.81.188.2] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:04 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59039 /trunk/extensions/DonationInterface/payflowpro_gateway/ (payflowpro_gateway.i18n.php validate_input.js): 00:04 < CIA-66> Follow-up to r59037: 00:04 < CIA-66> * revert removed l10n updates from r59037 and earlier l10n updates (svn up before commit?) 00:04 < CIA-66> * hardcode trailing space from 'payflowpro_gateway-error-msg-js' in validate_input.js (still ugly, should be parameter) 00:04 -!- ialex [n=IAlex@mediawiki/ialex] has quit [] 00:11 -!- Reedy [n=reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:12 -!- BryanTM [n=launch@wikimedia-commons/Bryan] has joined #mediawiki 00:13 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59040 /trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/ (MediaWikiExtensions.php mediawiki-defines.txt): Disabling Donate Interface and PayPal Gateway as they are not used. Useless to have translators translate this. 00:15 -!- Reedy [n=Reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has joined #mediawiki 00:16 -!- simonrvn [i=simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn] has joined #mediawiki 00:17 -!- _ITrace [n=justinst@216.81.188.2] has quit [Connection timed out] 00:19 < CIA-66> brion * r59041 /trunk/extensions/OpenID/SpecialOpenIDServer.body.php: 00:19 < CIA-66> Fix regression in r53665 which broke ability to act as OpenID server. 00:19 < CIA-66> The logic was reversed when changing from a string check to array check, so we would refuse to act as an OpenID server for local users, instead of refusing to act as OpenID server for remotely-sourced users. 00:19 < CIA-66> With this and the last fix, I'm now actually able to use a MediaWiki instance as an OpenID auth source for other sites (tested w/ StatusNet 0.9.x dev + OpenID plugin on PHP 5.2.11). 00:19 -!- slithytove20061 [n=Christop@adsl-75-0-10-34.dsl.renocs.sbcglobal.net] has joined #mediawiki 00:19 -!- slithytove20061 [n=Christop@adsl-75-0-10-34.dsl.renocs.sbcglobal.net] has left #mediawiki [] 00:20 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59042 /trunk/extensions/DonationInterface/payflowpro_gateway/payflowpro_gateway.i18n.php: 00:20 < CIA-66> Localisation updates from translatewiki.net 00:20 < CIA-66> * rebuild payflowpro_gateway.i18n.php, adding messages that were in the unused donate_interface 00:21 -!- MaxM [n=MaxM@wsip-98-173-48-39.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #mediawiki 00:22 < NivFreak> huh, I have this in house extension someone wrote, and it's actually replacing comment tags with trash... 00:22 -!- BryanTM [n=launch@wikimedia-commons/Bryan] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 00:26 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@221.30.73-86.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:28 -!- MaxMmm [n=MaxM@wsip-98-173-48-39.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 00:30 -!- Bryan [n=launch@wikimedia-commons/Bryan] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:30 -!- Poizon [i=OLOLOLOL@22.187.c10008-a77.dsl-dynamic.vsi.ru] has joined #mediawiki 00:35 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@wikipedia/duesentrieb] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 00:38 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@dhcp-077-250-053-164.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:40 -!- cattelan [n=nnnncatt@c-24-118-127-188.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #mediawiki 00:43 -!- Lapper [n=Lapper@wikimedia/lapper] has joined #mediawiki 00:44 -!- ITrace [n=justinst@75-167-123-91.desm.qwest.net] has joined #mediawiki 00:45 -!- xbaez [n=xbaez@200.34.201.2] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:51 -!- LionsMane [n=don@c-98-216-253-71.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 00:54 -!- GrooveDog [n=GrooveDo@wikimedia/GrooveDog] has joined #mediawiki 00:56 -!- Anubisss [i=Anubisss@ip-170-21-userpool.zeg.zelkanet.hu] has quit ["Haromfajta ember van. Aki tud szamolni es aki nem."] 01:02 -!- Stepan [n=stepan@ra.coresystems.de] has joined #mediawiki 01:02 -!- guillom [n=guillaum@wikimedia/guillom] has quit ["nighty night"] 01:02 < Stepan> hi. 01:02 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59043 /trunk/extensions/Maps/Maps.i18n.php: Fix for incomplete PLURAL 01:03 < Stepan> some guy is sending out password reminders to all our mediawiki users.. has there been some kind of security hole regarding this in 1.15.1 lately? 01:04 -!- tomaszf_ [n=tomaszf@216.38.133.254] has joined #mediawiki 01:04 < TimStarling> no, it's just to annoy people 01:04 < Amgine> This is a feature of the software. Anyone can try to log in as someone, and request a password reminder. 01:04 < TimStarling> you can set a per-IP rate limit using $wgRateLimits 01:05 -!- TDJACR [n=TDJACR@Wikipedia/Thedjatclubrock] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 01:05 -!- tomaszf_ [n=tomaszf@216.38.133.254] has quit [Client Quit] 01:06 -!- apergos [n=ariel@wiktionary/ArielGlenn] has quit ["Leaving."] 01:06 < Stepan> TimStarling: He's coming in via a Tor client, so IP based filtering wont work 01:06 < NivFreak> oh, extractTagsAndParams hits comments now days 01:06 < NivFreak> that makes more sense ;) 01:06 < TimStarling> you can use the TorBlock extension 01:07 -!- Prodego [n=Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego] has joined #mediawiki 01:07 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@221.30.73-86.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #mediawiki 01:08 -!- GrooveDog [n=GrooveDo@wikimedia/GrooveDog] has quit ["If everyone's a bureaucrat, nobody's a bureaucrat."] 01:11 < wikibugs> (mod) urls of the form wiki/article?curid=something should be indexable by robots on wikinews - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20818 +comment (Amgine.Saewyc) 01:11 -!- Hosiryuhosi [n=Hosiryuh@wikipedia/Hosiryuhosi] has joined #MediaWiki 01:11 -!- tomaszf [n=tomaszf@216.38.133.254] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 01:14 -!- JC [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:17 < CIA-66> straussd * r59044 /civicrm/trunk/sites/all/modules/queue2civicrm/ (Stomp.php queue2civicrm.module): Add more logging. 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Add timeout for when no items are waiting in the queue. 01:18 -!- phyrex1an [n=phyrex1a@95.80.47.90] has left #mediawiki ["Leaving."] 01:28 -!- Poizon [i=OLOLOLOL@22.187.c10008-a77.dsl-dynamic.vsi.ru] has quit ["Ðóñèôèöèðîâàííûé mIRC 6.32 îò yXo ** http://BestIRC.ru **"] 01:31 -!- tomaszf [n=tomaszf@216.38.133.254] has joined #mediawiki 01:31 -!- tomaszf [n=tomaszf@216.38.133.254] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:31 -!- tomaszf [n=tomaszf@216.38.133.254] has joined #mediawiki 01:32 -!- tomaszf [n=tomaszf@216.38.133.254] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:32 -!- tomaszf [n=tomaszf@216.38.133.254] has joined #mediawiki 01:33 -!- GDonato_ is now known as GDonato 01:34 -!- brion [n=brion@wikipedia/Brion-VIBBER] has quit ["awayyyy"] 01:35 -!- TGC [n=Eric@216.227.111.37] has left #mediawiki ["Leaving"] 01:40 -!- anomie [n=brad@wikimedia/anomie] has joined #mediawiki 01:47 -!- fanno [n=Morten@90.184.93.233] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:50 -!- Papertiger [i=tiger@e180066119.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #mediawiki 01:50 -!- dungodung is now known as dungodung|sleep 01:54 -!- cattelan is now known as cattelan_away 02:00 -!- Dantman [n=dantman@wikia/dantman] has quit ["http://daniel.friesen.name or ELSE!"] 02:01 -!- TrevorParscal [n=TrevorPa@216.38.133.254] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:07 -!- TrevorParscal [n=TrevorPa@216.38.133.254] has joined #mediawiki 02:07 -!- Papiertiger [i=tiger@e180065196.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 02:08 -!- trev [n=trev@205.158.109.36] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:11 -!- robla [n=robla@ip65-47-28-158.z28-47-65.customer.algx.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 02:22 -!- Reedy [n=Reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has quit ["Leaving"] 02:22 -!- TrevorParscal [n=TrevorPa@216.38.133.254] has quit [] 02:22 -!- Kaare is now known as KaareAway 02:27 -!- JC [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has joined #mediawiki 02:33 -!- puzzlet_ [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:33 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has joined #mediawiki 02:41 < CIA-66> nimishg * r59045 /trunk/extensions/ContributionReporting/ (2 files): daily max 02:44 < CIA-66> nimishg * r59046 /trunk/extensions/ContributionReporting/ContributionTrackingStatistics_body.php: daily max 02:48 -!- crucially [n=sky@wikia/crucially] has quit [] 02:51 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@221.30.73-86.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:52 < CIA-66> tomasz * r59047 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/ContributionReporting/ (5 files): pulling in r59045, r59046 02:53 -!- carl-m|away is now known as carl-cbm 02:57 -!- _s_k_y_ [n=Red@cpe-70-95-187-195.hawaii.res.rr.com] has left #mediawiki [] 02:58 -!- MaxM [n=MaxM@wsip-98-173-48-39.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit [Client Quit] 03:00 < CIA-66> nimishg * r59048 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ClickTracking/SpecialClickTracking.php: add trailing zeroes for MW_TIMESTAMP format 03:01 -!- Prodego [n=Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego] has quit ["From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"] 03:02 -!- Suiseiseki [n=desudesu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:03 -!- Suiseiseki [n=desudesu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has joined #mediawiki 03:07 < CIA-66> nimishg * r59049 /trunk/extensions/ContributionReporting/ (2 files): Generalized links 03:08 -!- cirwin [n=conrad@ipmas.corpus.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:09 -!- crucially [n=sky@wikia/crucially] has joined #mediawiki 03:11 -!- Diamant001 [n=user6398@p579CACFD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de"] 03:13 < CIA-66> tomasz * r59050 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/ContributionReporting/ (3 files): picking up r59049 03:13 -!- foksieloy [n=Miranda@78-1-185-109.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:17 -!- enomil` [n=enomil@wikimedia/Enomil] has joined #mediawiki 03:30 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has joined #mediawiki 03:30 -!- NeedAName [n=bairen@cpe-72-179-53-237.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #mediawiki 03:34 < NeedAName> I am transferring a mediawiki to my local server and everything works so far (logins, special pages, skins) except that it seems to have lost all the page contents. It does not seem to be loading the page content from the db dump from the other wiki. Any clue what could cause this? Thanks. 03:35 -!- enomil [n=enomil@wikimedia/Enomil] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:37 -!- AzaToth [n=azatoth@wikipedia/AzaToth] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:38 < GreenReaper> Maybe the prefix is incorrect? 03:38 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has quit ["Some people are like slinkies. They're not good for anything except pushing them down stairs."] 03:38 < GreenReaper> if it expected a table prefix 03:39 < GreenReaper> Have you migrated your LocalSettings.php along with the DB? 03:40 -!- Raymond__ [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has joined #mediawiki 03:41 < NeedAName> yes i have migrated that 03:42 < NeedAName> the login works off another database and that database seems to have populated the fields 03:42 -!- carl-cbm is now known as carl-m|away 03:43 -!- Laura|Away is now known as LauraHale 03:49 < CIA-66> tomasz * r59051 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/ContributionReporting/ContributionTrackingStatistics_body.php: adding temporary message during weekend testing 03:49 < TimStarling> that usually seems to happen when someone exports from phpmyadmin 03:50 < TimStarling> NeedAName: you didn't use phpmyadmin did you? 03:51 < NeedAName> no i did not 03:52 < NeedAName> i can open up the db file and see that the page content is there 03:52 < NeedAName> but when i import it via psql wikidb < filename it doesn't error and everything works but no content is loaded 03:52 < TimStarling> how did you create the SQL dump? 03:52 < NeedAName> it was passed along from another person i don't know how he created it 03:53 < TimStarling> did you run the installer? 03:53 < NeedAName> it's postgresql 03:53 < NeedAName> yes 03:53 < TimStarling> why? 03:53 < TimStarling> did you change the version of MW? 03:54 < NeedAName> i ran the installer at the beginning, to set the mw on this computer 03:54 < NeedAName> no it's same version 03:54 < TimStarling> you don't need to run the installer if you're moving a wiki from one computer to another 03:54 < TimStarling> you just copy the files and the DB 03:55 < TimStarling> you probably imported MW into the wrong schema, and now you're just looking at the empty database that the installer created 03:56 < TimStarling> MW on postgres uses a special user with its default schema set to mediawiki 03:56 -!- Raymond_afk [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:57 < TimStarling> if I were you, I'd drop all the databases you've created recently, then I'd reimport the data, then I'd work on getting MW to work without running any installer 03:57 < NeedAName> i ran the installer to make sure all the requirements were installed, i dropped the original wikidb before loading the old new 03:58 < TimStarling> that way you'll get informative error messages instead of empty wikis 03:59 < TimStarling> you should check the SQL file to make sure the bulk data is actually in it 03:59 < NeedAName> i just did, it has page contents in it 04:00 < TimStarling> and when you view the wiki, there are no pages, correct? 04:00 < NeedAName> yes 04:01 < TimStarling> or is there a default main page saying that you've installed MW correctly? 04:01 < NeedAName> oh it said i installed 04:01 < NeedAName> but that is the only page 04:01 < TimStarling> well, it's hard to see how that could be there if you deleted the database the installer created 04:02 < TimStarling> I think you should delete the database again, and then make sure that after you've deleted it, the wiki actually fails 04:02 < TimStarling> it should show a connection error 04:02 < NeedAName> well i just dropped it again and now i can't see anything but a Can't contact the database server: No database connection 04:03 -!- draugefilekim is now known as Mike||gone 04:03 < NeedAName> so i assume i import it again? 04:03 < TimStarling> yes 04:03 -!- mdale [n=dale@pdpc/supporter/student/mdale] has joined #mediawiki 04:05 < NeedAName> just to make sure i'm doing these steps correctly... I do createdb -O wikiuser wikidb ... Createlang plpgsql wikidb and then psql wikidb < infilename ? 04:05 < TimStarling> I haven't used postgres very much but it sounds reasonable 04:07 -!- tomaszf [n=tomaszf@216.38.133.254] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:08 -!- mdale [n=dale@pdpc/supporter/student/mdale] has quit ["Leaving."] 04:10 -!- BradLee [n=chatzill@CPE-121-214-97-81.lnse4.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #mediawiki 04:13 < NeedAName> that put me back in the same situation. maybe i should i ask a postgresql forum? 04:16 -!- NeedAName [n=bairen@cpe-72-179-53-237.austin.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving."] 04:16 -!- NeedAName [n=bairen@72.179.53.237] has joined #mediawiki 04:19 < TimStarling> NeedAName: it sounds like we're pretty close to a solution now 04:20 < TimStarling> this SQL file you're importing, does it contain two mediawiki installations? 04:20 < TimStarling> one which is a blank install with a default main page only, and one with the actual wiki? 04:22 < NeedAName> How would i Check that? 04:23 < OverlordQ> How'd you make the dump? 04:24 < TimStarling> he didn't make the dump 04:24 < NeedAName> i got it from a bz2 compressed file from another person... My guess is he used the pg_dump command but i'm not 100% sure 04:24 < TimStarling> maybe simplest to look at the database that's been created 04:26 < NeedAName> Which part of the database? 04:26 < TimStarling> ok, run psql 04:26 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:26 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has joined #mediawiki 04:26 < TimStarling> it goes to a command line, then type \l 04:26 < TimStarling> that lists databases, yours is wikidb right? 04:26 < TimStarling> so type \c wikidb 04:27 < TimStarling> then type \dn 04:27 < TimStarling> that lists schemas 04:28 < TimStarling> pastebin that 04:28 < NeedAName> wikidb=# \dn 04:28 < NeedAName> List of schemas 04:28 < NeedAName> Name | Owner 04:28 < NeedAName> --------------------+---------- 04:28 < NeedAName> information_schema | postgres 04:28 < NeedAName> mediawiki | postgres 04:28 < NeedAName> pg_catalog | postgres 04:28 < NeedAName> pg_toast | postgres 04:28 < NeedAName> public | postgres 04:28 < TimStarling> or paste, that's fine too 04:28 < NeedAName> (5 rows) 04:28 < TimStarling> ok, so you have two schemas here that are interesting, mediawiki and public 04:28 < TimStarling> mine only has public 04:30 -!- Dantman [n=dantman@wikia/dantman] has joined #mediawiki 04:30 < TimStarling> pastebin means go to dpaste.org and create a new paste, and then give us the URL instead of pasting lots of lines into the channel 04:30 < TimStarling> type: use schema public 04:31 < TimStarling> then: \dt 04:31 < TimStarling> then pastebin that 04:31 -!- justin_lee [n=justin@58.115.139.40] has joined #mediawiki 04:31 -!- justin_lee [n=justin@58.115.139.40] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:32 < TimStarling> ok forget that use schema bit 04:32 < TimStarling> just \dt 04:32 < NeedAName> i dropped mediawiki and now it is displaying content 04:33 < TimStarling> that's nice 04:34 -!- Bdka [n=bdk@wikipedia/bdka] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:36 < TimStarling> GreenReaper: I guess you were pretty close after all 04:36 -!- anomie [n=brad@wikimedia/anomie] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:36 -!- infinisoft [i=infiniso@r70h97.res.gatech.edu] has joined #mediawiki 04:37 < GreenReaper> Well, that was something of a surprise. 04:37 * GreenReaper was just throwing out ideas while being preoccupised with something else. 04:37 < NeedAName> Thank you very much btw 04:38 < TimStarling> no problem 04:38 < TimStarling> GreenReaper: postgresql installs don't usually have a table prefix, the installer doesn't prompt for it 04:38 -!- NeedAName [n=bairen@72.179.53.237] has left #mediawiki [] 04:38 < TimStarling> but you can choose a schema, and mediawiki doesn't actually select the right schema as specified in LocalSettings.php, it just uses whatever default schema the user has in its search path 04:39 < BradLee> can someone please tell me the best extension to permanently delete (not) hide, selected revisions of a page? 04:39 < GreenReaper> Interesting. Although hopefully not something I'll have to use. :-) 04:40 < OverlordQ> TimStarling: when it makes a DB connection though it sets the schema to the value in LocalSettings 04:41 < OverlordQ> *search_path 04:41 < BradLee> i've looked, but they all either want to hide revisions, or permanantly delete all old revisions 04:41 < CIA-66> shinjiman * r59052 /trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (4 files): Localisation updates Cantonese, Chinese and Literary Chinese 04:41 < TimStarling> OverlordQ: only under certain obscure circumstances: 04:41 < TimStarling> if (isset( $wgDBmwschema ) && isset( $wgDBts2schema ) 04:41 < TimStarling> && $wgDBmwschema !== 'mediawiki' 04:41 < TimStarling> && preg_match( '/^\w+$/', $wgDBmwschema ) 04:41 < TimStarling> && preg_match( '/^\w+$/', $wgDBts2schema ) 04:41 < TimStarling> ) { 04:42 < OverlordQ> O_o weird 04:44 * OverlordQ thought he remembered seeing it do that before 04:55 -!- filmprog [n=filmprog@c-67-171-116-67.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 04:56 -!- JNSamuel [n=JSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy] has joined #mediawiki 05:16 -!- rainman-sr [n=rainman@user-544522c7.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:19 < Skizzerz> BradLee: Oversight? 05:20 < Skizzerz> it "hides" revisions by placing them in a seperate table, so it's easy to set up a cron job to truncate that table nightly or whatever 05:21 < BradLee> Skizzerz: that sounds great. I thought it left them in the same table but didn't display them! 05:25 < BradLee> Skizzerz: It looks like this will do nicely. Thanks. 05:35 -!- enomil` [n=enomil@wikimedia/Enomil] has quit ["( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.21 :: www.esnation.com )"] 05:38 -!- acat [n=acatheri@12.50.15.2] has joined #mediawiki 05:41 -!- JNSamuel [n=JSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:47 < TimStarling> // also setup the text file display on Click to select file: 05:48 < TimStarling> poetry 05:49 -!- nn123645 [n=nn123645@adsl-074-237-227-159.sip.mco.bellsouth.net] has joined #mediawiki 06:03 -!- Prodego [n=Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego] has joined #mediawiki 06:07 -!- DuTempete [n=chatzill@76-234-42-15.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 06:07 -!- DuTempete [n=chatzill@76-234-42-15.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #mediawiki 06:08 -!- GreenReaper is now known as GreenSleeper 06:16 -!- robla [n=robla@c-76-104-247-13.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #mediawiki 06:24 < wikibugs> (mod) GIF scaling limit should be applied to animated GIFs only - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16451 +comment (lar) 06:24 -!- kotra [n=kotra@216.99.218.14] has joined #MediaWiki 06:25 -!- LauraHale [n=laurahal@adsl-99-142-42-96.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] 06:39 -!- Alphos [n=noreply@wikipedia/Alphos] has quit ["paf"] 06:39 -!- Skizzerz [n=skizzerz@mediawiki/Skizzerz] has quit ["*poof*"] 06:40 -!- ckuttruff [n=ckuttruf@ip68-101-220-87.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #mediawiki 06:41 < ckuttruff> evening all. Does someone happen to know how to go about ensuring that an admin has to confirm before a mediawiki account is created? 06:41 -!- JC [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 06:42 < ckuttruff> nm.... http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access#Restrict_account_creation 06:46 -!- JohnChrysostom [n=harej@wikipedia/MessedRocker] has joined #mediawiki 06:46 < JohnChrysostom> Where is the page that contains the code for the current fundraiser notices being used? 06:56 -!- Hosiryuhosi is now known as Hosiryuhosi_afk 06:57 -!- ckuttruff [n=ckuttruf@ip68-101-220-87.sd.sd.cox.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 06:59 -!- kotra [n=kotra@216.99.218.14] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:03 -!- infinisoft [i=infiniso@r70h97.res.gatech.edu] has quit [] 07:04 -!- acat [n=acatheri@12.50.15.2] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:06 < JohnChrysostom> Wrong channel. 07:07 < JohnChrysostom> But in any case, I have a question related to the API. Is there a point where the API -- specifically, the enwiki API -- will tell you stop editing "for chrissakes" because you've been bombarding it with edits? 07:11 -!- apergos [n=ariel@wiktionary/ArielGlenn] has joined #mediawiki 07:14 < OverlordQ> afaik yes 07:14 -!- yoyo[RKN] [n=Miranda@i577B7D16.versanet.de] has joined #mediawiki 07:14 -!- Alphos [n=noreply@wikipedia/Alphos] has joined #mediawiki 07:16 < JohnChrysostom> After how many? 07:17 -!- Jake_Wartenberg is now known as JW|AFK 07:32 -!- Prodego [n=Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:36 -!- Raymond__ [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:38 -!- Raymond_afk [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has joined #mediawiki 07:47 -!- guillom [n=guillaum@wikimedia/guillom] has joined #mediawiki 07:53 -!- Daedalus969 [n=Daedalus@unaffiliated/daedalus969] has quit ["There is no escaping reason, no denying purpose, because as we both know, without purpose, we would not exist. 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All normalization tests pass except for 09:13 < CIA-66> RandomTest.php which have bitrotten to its death from PHP fatals. 09:13 < CIA-66> * Added a line about r59036 to release notes 09:13 -!- Saruman [n=jan@dworkin.saruman.biz] has joined #mediawiki 09:15 -!- BradLee [n=chatzill@CPE-121-214-97-81.lnse4.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 09:17 -!- vvv [n=vvv@mediawiki/VasilievVV] has joined #mediawiki 09:36 -!- dungodung|sleep is now known as dungodung 09:47 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59054 /trunk/extensions/Translate/ (2 files in 2 dirs): --quiet is a standard option in the Translate commandline scripts, so updating help output and removing feature from r59025 09:49 < CIA-66> raymond * r59055 /trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Add 'search-summary' which is empty by default as generic special page summary message. 09:51 -!- Diamant001 [n=user6398@p579CAC4B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mediawiki 09:54 -!- tomaszf [n=tomaszf@98.210.153.193] has joined #mediawiki 10:15 -!- mgrabovsky [n=MGrab@wikipedia/Mat--j-Grabovsk--] has joined #mediawiki 10:17 -!- yoyo[RKN] [n=Miranda@i577B7D16.versanet.de] has joined #mediawiki 10:22 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59056 /trunk/extensions/DonationInterface/payflowpro_gateway/ (payflowpro_gateway.body.php payflowpro_gateway.i18n.php): Remove leading space in 'payflowpro_gateway-cvv-link' 10:22 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:23 -!- MaxSem [n=max@wikimedia/MaxSem] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:24 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@dhcp-077-250-053-164.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:24 -!- guillom [n=guillaum@wikimedia/guillom] has quit ["bbl"] 10:25 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has joined #mediawiki 10:25 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@dhcp-077-250-053-164.chello.nl] has joined #mediawiki 10:30 -!- stephan48 [n=rjp@pdpc/supporter/student/stephan48] has joined #mediawiki 10:34 -!- yoyo[RKN] [n=Miranda@i577B7D16.versanet.de] has quit ["Use your power www.rechenkraft.net"] 10:44 -!- phyrex1an [n=phyrex1a@bumik.csbnet.se] has joined #mediawiki 10:57 -!- MaxSem [n=max@wikimedia/MaxSem] has joined #mediawiki 10:58 < CIA-66> raymond * r59057 /trunk/extensions/GlobalBlocking/SpecialGlobalBlockList.php: 10:58 < CIA-66> Consistency tweak: coalesce tool links with pipes instead of () () () 10:58 < CIA-66> Wrap tool links with parentheses message instead of hardcoded parentheses 11:04 -!- phyrex1an [n=phyrex1a@bumik.csbnet.se] has quit ["Leaving."] 11:17 -!- HBYYB [n=felix@wikimedia/dungodung] has joined #mediawiki 11:17 -!- dungodung [n=felix@wikimedia/dungodung] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 11:17 -!- HBYYB is now known as dungodung 11:20 -!- vvv [n=vvv@mediawiki/VasilievVV] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:25 < wikibugs> (mod) Creation of a new namespace in ia.wiktionary - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21241 (Isaac.Mansur) 11:38 -!- basile [n=guillaum@wikimedia/guillom] has joined #mediawiki 11:39 -!- basile is now known as guillom 11:46 -!- Hosiryuhosi is now known as Hosiryuhosi_afk 11:51 -!- OverlordQ [i=ZOMG@wikipedia/OverlordQ] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 11:51 -!- BradLee [n=chatzill@CPE-121-214-97-81.lnse4.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #mediawiki 11:53 -!- sDrewth [n=sDrewth@wikisource/billinghurst] has joined #mediawiki 11:53 < sDrewth> where does one control the options in Special:Import ? 11:53 -!- OverlordQ [i=ZOMG@wikipedia/OverlordQ] has joined #mediawiki 11:55 < sDrewth> is it in the underlying configuration Manual:$wgImportSources ? 11:57 -!- jimt [n=jim@202.27.212.33] has joined #mediawiki 12:03 -!- vvv [n=vvv@mediawiki/VasilievVV] has joined #mediawiki 12:05 * sDrewth lifts up the cushions on the couch to see where people are hiding 12:08 < CIA-66> mgrabovsky * r59058 /trunk/phase3/ (7 files in 3 dirs): (bug 21455) Fixed "Watch this page" checkbox appearing on some special pages even to non-logged in users 12:08 < wikibugs> (mod) Anonymous users see "Watch this page" checkbox when performing delete, move, and protect actions - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21455 (mgrabovsky) 12:12 -!- yoyo[RKN] [n=Miranda@i577B7D16.versanet.de] has joined #mediawiki 12:21 -!- mdale [n=dale@pdpc/supporter/student/mdale] has joined #mediawiki 12:22 < Nikerabbit> ugga 12:22 < mutante> images that have been upload with the wrong orientation, is there a mediawiki way to rotate them 90 or 180 degrees after they have been uploaded, on the server? instead of deleting and re-uploading. I mean, after all imagemagick is used for thumbnails anyways, so a button like that should be possible, right 12:23 < mutante> or could i just manually use imagemagick on them in place on the server shell, without confusing mediawiki 12:26 < Alphos> you can also upload a new vesion of th file 12:26 < Alphos> *the 12:26 < Alphos> *version 12:26 * Alphos is having brain-keyboard problems today >_> 12:26 * MaxSem 's Safari is updating to version 4.0.4 o_0 12:27 < Alphos> Amgine how can we update MediaWiki 1.15.1 to Safari 4.0.4 ? :p 12:27 * Alphos ducks :p 12:30 < mutante> Alphos: then i am not sure ,depending on what software i use to rotate it, if i loose image quality because its re-rendered, or not, or if it just writes the orientation info into the metadata, and then depending on what viewer software i use, it read that info or not,... and..arg... 12:30 < MaxSem> JPEGs can be rotated losslessly 12:31 < Alphos> i suggest you read said software documentation 12:31 < mutante> if i have a choice of "windows image viewer", "picasa" and "ancient photoshop 6.0" 12:32 < sDrewth> or install the Firefox Rotate Image add-on 12:32 < mutante> ah, looking at that 12:33 < sDrewth> mutante, get Irfan View 12:33 < sDrewth> a very nice image viewer 12:33 < sDrewth> also while your at it have a look at the FireShot add-on 12:33 < MaxSem> is there a min-bar extension for Firefox already? how far can software bloat go? 12:33 < sDrewth> that too is very sweet 12:33 < mutante> i also dont want to lose the metadata with the camera info 12:34 < mutante> ok, thanks 12:34 < sDrewth> MaxSem: I want a coffee making fairy icon for FireFox 12:34 < mutante> any extensions with the purpose to better handle all the other extensions ?;)gg 12:40 -!- GDonato [n=GDonato@wikimedia/GDonato] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:47 < CIA-66> maxsem * r59059 /trunk/phase3/maintenance/syntaxChecker.php: 12:47 < CIA-66> syntaxChecker.php: 12:47 < CIA-66> * added LocalSettings.php and AdminSettings.php (if present) to check list 12:47 < CIA-66> * added option --file to quickly check one particular file 12:47 -!- tomaszf_ [n=tomaszf@98.210.153.193] has joined #mediawiki 12:54 -!- cirwin [n=conrad@131.111.220.6] has joined #mediawiki 12:55 -!- phyrex1an [n=phyrex1a@bumik.csbnet.se] has joined #mediawiki 12:55 -!- SPQRobin [n=Robin@wikimedia/SPQRobin] has joined #mediawiki 13:01 -!- Keshaun_Williams [n=kk122296@ool-4570c1ff.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #mediawiki 13:01 < Keshaun_Williams> Hello. Can someone help me make a template for my mediawiki? 13:04 -!- tomaszf [n=tomaszf@98.210.153.193] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:04 -!- tomaszf_ is now known as tomaszf 13:06 -!- elektryk [n=chatzill@ip-93-179-208-35.ssnet.pl] has joined #mediawiki 13:06 < elektryk> hi, how tu change the time zone on my wikia? 13:07 < mutante> sDrewth: thanks, i had to get the misc. plugins pack additionally, then IrfanView has the losless JPG operations 13:08 -!- Hosiryuhosi_afk is now known as Hosiryuhosi 13:10 < Keshaun_Williams> I can help you with that 13:10 < Keshaun_Williams> Well no I can't... 13:19 < mutante> elektryk: every user can change the timezone in "preferenceS2 13:19 < mutante> elektryk: Special:Preferences 13:19 < elektryk> aha, thanks :) 13:20 < p858snake> you can change the default 13:21 < p858snake> and then theres a script in the maintance directory but i'm not usre if wikia can run those 13:22 < Keshaun_Williams> Can someone help me make a template for my mediawiki? 13:23 < mutante> if you have international users you probably want the server and default to work in GMT, and then let each user set his offset in his personal prefs 13:23 < mutante> if all your users are from one timezone, you could change the default instead.. shrug 13:25 * Keshaun_Williams waits 13:26 -!- apergos [n=ariel@wiktionary/ArielGlenn] has quit ["Leaving."] 13:27 -!- apoc_ is now known as apoc 13:27 < Keshaun_Williams> Can someone help me make a template for my mediawiki? 13:30 < Alphos> what kind of template do you need, Keshaun_Williams 13:30 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59060 /trunk/tools/wikiportrait/ (45 files in 7 dirs): 13:30 < CIA-66> * fix svn properties 13:30 < CIA-66> * update indentation and remove trailing whitespace for some files 13:30 < CIA-66> * removed closing ?> where possible 13:34 < Keshaun_Williams> like a character box template 13:39 -!- rainman-sr [n=rainman@user-544522c7.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #mediawiki 13:42 < Alphos> could you be a bit more specific ? 13:43 -!- ialex [n=IAlex@mediawiki/ialex] has joined #mediawiki 13:45 -!- siebrand [n=beis@sm.xs4all.nl] has quit [] 13:46 < Keshaun_Williams> Um... 13:46 < Keshaun_Williams> Like this: 13:47 -!- siebrand [n=beis@sm.xs4all.nl] has joined #mediawiki 13:49 < Keshaun_Williams> {{CharacterBox 13:49 < Keshaun_Williams> | name = 13:49 < Keshaun_Williams> | image = 13:49 < Keshaun_Williams> | race = 13:49 < Keshaun_Williams> | homeworld = 13:49 < Keshaun_Williams> | mother = 13:49 < Keshaun_Williams> | father = 13:49 < Keshaun_Williams> | spouse = 13:49 < Keshaun_Williams> | siblings = 13:49 < Keshaun_Williams> | family = 13:49 < Keshaun_Williams> | children = 13:49 < Keshaun_Williams> | issue = 13:49 < Keshaun_Williams> | born = 13:49 < Keshaun_Williams> | branch = 13:49 < Keshaun_Williams> | positions = 13:49 < Keshaun_Williams> | prior service = 13:49 < Keshaun_Williams> | awards = }} 13:49 < Keshaun_Williams> When I enter that into my wiki, it wouldn't work properly... 13:50 -!- BradLee [n=chatzill@CPE-121-214-97-81.lnse4.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 13:52 -!- elektryk [n=chatzill@ip-93-179-208-35.ssnet.pl] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 13:54 -!- LauraHale [n=laurahal@99.142.42.96] has joined #mediawiki 13:56 < wikibugs> (mod) $wgAllowDisplayTitle not working when$wgCapitalLinks = false - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21478 +comment (alex.emsenhuber) 13:56 < wikibugs> (mod) $wgAllowDisplayTitle not working when $wgCapitalLinks = false - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21478 summary (alex.emsenhuber) 13:58 -!- Bryan [n=launch@wikimedia-commons/Bryan] has joined #mediawiki 14:03 -!- luminoso [n=lumos@av-217-129-139-239.netvisao.pt] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:03 -!- luminoso [n=lumos@av-217-129-139-239.netvisao.pt] has joined #mediawiki 14:03 -!- Marco27 [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has joined #mediawiki 14:05 < Keshaun_Williams> Can someone help me with that? 14:05 < ialex> Keshaun_Williams: you copied the template from the english wikipedia? 14:06 < Keshaun_Williams> No... 14:06 -!- guillom [n=guillaum@wikimedia/guillom] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 14:06 < MaxSem> wokiepedia? 14:06 < Keshaun_Williams> It doesn't have the template I want 14:06 < MaxSem> *wookiepedia 14:06 < Keshaun_Williams> Didn't try that yet... 14:06 < Keshaun_Williams> Link for the template please? 14:06 < ialex> Keshaun_Williams: so what's the problem? 14:07 -!- guillom [n=guillaum@wikimedia/guillom] has joined #mediawiki 14:07 < Keshaun_Williams> IDK...I used the template I copied and pasted a few minutes on my MediaWiki and all that came up was "CharacterBoxTemplate" 14:11 -!- Stepan [n=stepan@ra.coresystems.de] has left #mediawiki [] 14:11 -!- Platonides [n=Platonid@wikipedia/Platonides] has joined #mediawiki 14:13 < Keshaun_Williams> Can someone help me? 14:13 < Platonides> what's our problem? 14:14 < Platonides> *what's your problem? 14:14 < Keshaun_Williams> Well...I tried to use a character box template on my MediaWiki, but it didn't work. 14:15 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@217.234.210.112] has joined #mediawiki 14:16 < Platonides> did you copy the template to your wiki? 14:16 < Platonides> hello Duesentrieb 14:16 < Duesentrieb> hi 14:16 < Keshaun_Williams> Yes 14:16 < CIA-66> ialex * r59061 /trunk/phase3/includes/Setup.php: Fix for r58652: use tabs for indentation, not spaces :) 14:17 < Keshaun_Williams> Well...I didn't add it to the system... 14:17 < Keshaun_Williams> I don't know how to add it to my Wiki's system...How do I do that? 14:20 < Duesentrieb> !import | Keshaun_Williams 14:20 < mwbot> Keshaun_Williams: To import pages a few pages, use Special:Import - you can also import pages directly from another wiki (see !importsources). For mass imports, use importDump.php - see for details. NOTE: when using content from another wiki, follow the LICENSE TERMS, especially, attribute source and authors! 14:20 < Duesentrieb> !templates | Keshaun_Williams 14:20 < mwbot> Keshaun_Williams: For more information about templates, see . See also: !templateproblems 14:20 < Duesentrieb> ah yea, that one... 14:20 < Duesentrieb> !templateproblems 14:20 < mwbot> The most common issues with templates copied from Wikipedia can be fixed by installing ParserFunctions and enabling HTML Tidy 14:21 < Duesentrieb> hm, i thought we had more info about importing templates somewhere... 14:21 < Duesentrieb> oh, well 14:21 < CIA-66> ialex * r59062 /trunk/extensions/SemanticMaps/OpenStreetMap/SM_OSM.php: svn:eol-style native 14:21 < Duesentrieb> Platonides: it would be *so* nice to have a bundle of standard templates as an xml dump, for people to download and import... 14:21 < Duesentrieb> *someone* should do that some day :) 14:24 < Keshaun_Williams> That's not really helping 14:27 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59063 /trunk/tools/wikiportrait/ (20 files in 5 dirs): 14:27 < CIA-66> * added a missing in admin/index.php 14:27 < CIA-66> *
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Everything I know is at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~amidaniel/botbrain.html and you can visit #mwbot or privately message me. 14:45 -!- JC [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has joined #mediawiki 14:53 -!- Marco27 [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has quit ["Bye!"] 15:00 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has joined #mediawiki 15:05 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has quit [Client Quit] 15:05 -!- Bamieater [i=Melvin@freenode/sponsor/bamieater] has quit [Success] 15:09 -!- Bamieater [i=Melvin@freenode/sponsor/bamieater] has joined #mediawiki 15:10 -!- ThomasV_away is now known as ThomasV 15:21 -!- kernel [n=kernel@218.149.109.10] has joined #mediawiki 15:26 -!- zeph5 [n=Zephyrus@wikimedia/Zephyrus] has quit ["Je dis que le mouvement est caus'e par plusieurs points d'appui. 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Is there a way to have a warning box saying something like "Read this page FIRST before editing" that shows up on the editing page? 16:22 < cirwin> [[MediaWiki:Anoneditwarning]] ? 16:22 < Duesentrieb> cirwin: that's only for anons. what the right message for all edits? 16:22 < cirwin> no idea - and no way to find out 16:24 < Duesentrieb> not any more, right 16:24 < Duesentrieb> LordQuackstar: basically: yes. it's easy, you juist edit the right system message. the hard aprt is to find out which one to edit. 16:25 < Duesentrieb> Special:Allmessages gets you a list. but good way to search. 16:25 < Duesentrieb> Nikerabbit: :'( 16:25 < LordQuackstar> i'll look into it 16:25 < LordQuackstar> thanks 16:25 < cirwin> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15802 - even that solution doesn't seem to show anything 16:28 < cirwin> hrm, maybe there isn't one for just editing - there's the anon one, and the [[MediaWiki:newarticletext]] for when creating a new page 16:30 -!- ialex [n=IAlex@mediawiki/ialex] has joined #mediawiki 16:31 < cirwin> Duesentrieb: do you think that the approach in 15802 will work? (it can be used: http://talland.net/h/Home?uselang=none ) 16:31 < wikibugs> (mod) some text of old revisions in early 2005 is blank in the English Wikipedia - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20757 (grahamwp) 16:31 -!- Betacommand [n=Betacomm@unaffiliated/betacommand] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 16:33 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:34 -!- Bryan [n=launch@wikimedia-commons/Bryan] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 16:34 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has joined #mediawiki 16:34 -!- JC is now known as JC|bbl 16:36 -!- teddymills [n=teddy@208.92.235.227] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:36 -!- teddymills [n=teddy@208.92.235.227] has joined #mediawiki 16:37 < sDrewth> LordQuackstar: try MediaWiki:Noarticletext 16:38 -!- madsj [n=mads@130.227.120.134] has joined #mediawiki 16:39 < madsj> hi; where would be a good starting point, when I get errors about cookies not being enabled, altough they're in my browser (and are actually sent by MW and received in my browser) when trying to login ? 16:40 -!- luminoso_ [n=lumos@av-217-129-139-239.netvisao.pt] has joined #mediawiki 16:46 -!- teddymills [n=teddy@208.92.235.227] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:46 -!- Reedy [n=Reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has joined #mediawiki 16:46 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@221.30.73-86.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:48 -!- applepie [n=Jesse@wikimedia/Pathoschild] has quit ["*poof*"] 16:50 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59065 /trunk/extensions/Maps/Maps.i18n.php: Fix Dutchism 16:52 < sDrewth> there is mediawiki:edithelp, though who knows where it works 16:54 -!- luminoso [n=lumos@av-217-129-139-239.netvisao.pt] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:01 -!- puzzlet_ [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has joined #mediawiki 17:02 -!- Anubisss [i=Anubisss@ip-170-21-userpool.zeg.zelkanet.hu] has joined #mediawiki 17:02 < wikibugs> (mod) "Edit" link not working as expected - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13287 +comment (verdy_p) 17:04 -!- madsj [n=mads@130.227.120.134] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 17:04 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@221.30.73-86.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #mediawiki 17:09 -!- JeroenDeDauw [n=Admin@213-224-29-162.iFiber.telenet-ops.be] has joined #mediawiki 17:09 -!- No1Viking [n=No1Vikin@h-20-197.A259.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:13 < wikibugs> (mod) Allow for gadgets to be turned on by default - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13742 +comment (verdy_p) 17:13 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:15 -!- JeroenDeDauw1 [n=Admin@213-224-29-162.iFiber.telenet-ops.be] has joined #mediawiki 17:15 -!- JeroenDeDauw [n=Admin@213-224-29-162.iFiber.telenet-ops.be] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:17 -!- charitwo [n=charitwo@wikia/Charitwo] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:17 -!- rlarson87 [n=reid85@CPE001cdf73661f-CM001ceacec55e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [] 17:19 < JeroenDeDauw1> Hey guys, I'm getting some error when I try to commit some code to the MW SVN with TortoiseSVN: 17:19 < JeroenDeDauw1> Commit failed (details follow): 17:19 < JeroenDeDauw1> Server sent unexpected return value (403 Forbidden) in response to MKACTIVITY 17:19 < JeroenDeDauw1> request for '/svnroot/mediawiki/!svn/act/31d1b556-d7c3-3d4f-837b-acb0c6085dab' 17:19 < JeroenDeDauw1> I could commit without problems 2 days ago, any idea's what's causing this, and how to fix it? 17:20 < LordQuackstar> Now i'm running into a new problem (i'm a little new to this): I'm tring to make short url's. I'm not renaming my wiki folder, so its located in /wiki. My .htaccess file works fine. However mediawiki won't use short url's for links. I've set $wgUsePathInfo = true; in LocalSettings.php, forced refresh, and its still not working. 17:21 < ialex> JeroenDeDauw1: you are sure that you checked out from svn+ssh://jeroendedauw@svn.wikimedia.org/... and not http://svn.wikimedia.org/... ? 17:21 < LordQuackstar> http://pastebin.com/m7a98ee4d 17:22 < LordQuackstar> I know my htaccess works because i can just use Main_Page and it works 17:25 < Raymond_afk> JeroenDeDauw1: are you trying to commit to core or extension? 17:25 < Keshaun_Williams> ... 17:25 < flyingparchment> '403 forbidden' can only come from http commits 17:25 < wikibugs> (mod) Auto account creation creates privacy vulnerability - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19161 (verdy_p) 17:25 < flyingparchment> the problem must be his using the wrong url, not svn access restrictions 17:26 < Keshaun_Williams> ... 17:26 -!- sDrewth [n=sDrewth@wikisource/billinghurst] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:28 < JeroenDeDauw1> Raymond_afk: extension 17:28 < JeroenDeDauw1> ialex: No, I'm not; that could very well be it. 17:28 < ialex> JeroenDeDauw1: use "svn info" and see repository URL 17:29 < ialex> JeroenDeDauw1: if it's the wronf url, you can use svn switch --relocate 17:29 < ialex> *wrong 17:30 < JeroenDeDauw1> ialex: When I open the relocate dialog, I get svn+ssh://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Maps as current url. So is that one correct or not? 17:31 < ialex> JeroenDeDauw1: on my copy I get svn+ssh://ialex@svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/... 17:33 < JeroenDeDauw1> ialex: ok, thnx, that's working :) 17:33 < CIA-66> jeroendedauw * r59066 /trunk/extensions/Maps/Maps.php: Changes for 0.4.2 (rc2) (see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Maps/Version_history) 17:34 < CIA-66> jeroendedauw * r59067 /trunk/extensions/SemanticMaps/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Changes for 0.4.2 (rc2) (see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Maps/Version_history) 17:37 < wikibugs> (mod) Spammed by thread traffic - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21457 +comment (verdy_p) 17:40 < wikibugs> (mod) Spammed by thread traffic - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21457 +comment (mike.lifeguard) 17:41 -!- apergos [n=ariel@wiktionary/ArielGlenn] has joined #mediawiki 17:45 < Nikerabbit> Duesentrieb: ? 17:45 < Duesentrieb> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15802 17:46 < Duesentrieb> there's no way to find out how to edit a given interface text 17:46 < Duesentrieb> extremly annoying. 17:46 < wikibugs> (mod) Spammed by thread traffic - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21457 (verdy_p) 17:46 < Nikerabbit> Duesentrieb: guess what 17:47 < Duesentrieb> what? 17:47 < Nikerabbit> it's extremely annoying that messages are abused for things which are not messages 17:47 < Duesentrieb> i agree :) 17:47 < Saruman> but when all you have is a hammer... 17:47 -!- apergos [n=ariel@wiktionary/ArielGlenn] has left #mediawiki [] 17:48 < werdna> why is philippe verdy such an ass? 17:49 < ialex> werdna: he annoys everybody, on the French Wikipedia, on translatewiki, ... 17:50 < werdna> he can make his point without being such an ass about it. 17:50 < werdna> He's like jidanni. 17:50 < ialex> :) 17:50 -!- recover [i=recover@ip21278.lbinternet.se] has joined #mediawiki 17:51 < Nikerabbit> aww 17:51 < Nikerabbit> where is my gluebat 17:52 < Nikerabbit> or is it cluebat 17:52 < Mike_lifeguard> werdna: shhhhhhh, "he who must not be named"! 17:52 < Mike_lifeguard> he might come back 17:53 < recover> Hi guys. I have been working some on an extension that allows the user to log in via CAS, but I have a small problem. After you log in, sometimes the cache jumps in and it appears as if you are not logged in. Ctrl+F5 fixes that. Does anyone know how I can fix this in the code? The extension is here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CASAuthentication 17:59 < wikibugs> (mod) Insert Links : Link text display - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21501 +comment (nkomura) 18:00 -!- JW|AFK is now known as Jake_Wartenberg 18:00 < wikibugs> (mod) Spammed by thread traffic - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21457 (verdy_p) 18:02 -!- CrazyDC [n=d_c_1990@cpc2-farn3-0-0-cust108.glfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #mediawiki 18:02 < CrazyDC> hello any on here 18:03 < ialex> !ask 18:03 < mwbot> Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. See also: !gethelp 18:06 -!- zrh [n=zrh@dynamic-198-055.catv.glattnet.ch] has joined #mediawiki 18:08 < wikibugs> (mod) GIF scaling limit should be applied to animated GIFs only - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16451 (zlightman) 18:09 < wikibugs> (mod) "Edit" link not working as expected - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13287 (mike.lifeguard) 18:09 < CIA-66> philip * r59068 /trunk/phase3/includes/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Update the Chinese conversion tables. 18:10 < Mike_lifeguard> werdna: btw, I emailed them, not that it'll make a difference 18:11 -!- Lapper [n=Lapper@wikimedia/lapper] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:11 -!- GreenReaper [n=greenrea@unaffiliated/greenreaper] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 18:11 -!- JeroenDeDauw1 [n=Admin@213-224-29-162.iFiber.telenet-ops.be] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:11 -!- Lapper_ [n=Lapper@wikimedia/lapper] has joined #mediawiki 18:11 < CIA-66> dale * r59069 /trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (8 files in 6 dirs): (log message trimmed) 18:11 < CIA-66> * baseRemoteSearch :: addRSSData re-factoring 18:11 < CIA-66> * some comment updates 18:11 < CIA-66> * started to re-factor metavid api queries in an effort to depreciate do_request 18:11 < CIA-66> * language msg updates 18:11 < CIA-66> * import resource is no longer "red" 18:11 < CIA-66> * fixed playing of stream offsets presentation time onDone action 18:11 -!- Lapper_ [n=Lapper@wikimedia/lapper] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:12 < wikibugs> (mod) Spammed by thread traffic - 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"-1" -> "- 1") 18:53 < CIA-66> * update indentation and formatting 18:53 < wikibugs> (mod) Welcome Beta page has opt-out survey - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21508 (nkomura) 18:54 -!- SPQRobin1 [n=Robin@d54C5A420.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Leaving."] 18:54 -!- Prodego is now known as SQL 18:54 < siebrand> TimStarling: when do you expect you can free the lock on the 3 javascript files? 18:55 < wikibugs> (mod) Use only ASCII characters in email confirmation links - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11547 (gtisza) 18:55 < siebrand> TimStarling: js upload in trunk is broken, and it needs to be fixed in one of those files (http://pastebin.ca/1671334) 18:55 -!- SQL is now known as elapse 18:58 < zrh> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9675 has been marked 'new' for more than two years ... why is MW still not able to create site maps with full URLs as requested by Google? 18:58 -!- JeroenDeDauw [n=Admin@213-224-29-162.iFiber.telenet-ops.be] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:58 -!- JeroenDeDauw [n=Admin@213-224-29-162.iFiber.telenet-ops.be] has joined #mediawiki 18:59 < cirwin> zrh: because you haven't patched it yet? 18:59 < Amgine> zrh: They can. I've written an extension which does it. 18:59 < zrh> cirwin: Why not amending the default generateSitemap.php? 19:00 < zrh> Amgine: Cool ... how your extension named? 19:00 < Amgine> I've not released it, pending dev review. 19:00 < zrh> Amgine: OK! 19:00 < siebrand> werdna: Lqt adds the user link "new messages", which links to an empty page if there are none. I was wondering if that could be optimised. Have 2 alternatives: (1) New messages -> Messages (2) hide the link if there are no new messages. What do you think? 19:01 < zrh> Amgine: Is a pre-release online? 19:01 < werdna> presently it bolds the link if there are new messages 19:01 < Amgine> There is an older version at #20818 19:02 < siebrand> werdna: that depends on the skin (not in Modern) 19:03 -!- Revenant [n=trueabso@213-94-255-80-dynamic.b-ras1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net] has joined #mediawiki 19:03 < werdna> modern sucks :) 19:03 -!- Revenant is now known as TR 19:03 < Amgine> 19:03 < siebrand> werdna: "New messages" changes to "New messages (#)", which is why I thought it might as well be hidden if # is 0. 19:03 < siebrand> werdna: you have a right to an opinion just as anyone ;) 19:04 * TR notices a distinct lack of channel operators o.O 19:04 < siebrand> werdna: after working with modern for a while, I cannot find stuff in MonoBook anymore... :} 19:04 < werdna> TR: channel operators do not keep ops, but just get them when they need them 19:04 < flyingparchment> werdna: you suck 19:04 -!- mode/#mediawiki [+o werdna] by ChanServ 19:04 -!- mode/#mediawiki [-o werdna] by werdna 19:04 < TR> Ahh. 19:05 < TR> Well, in any case, is this channel use for solely discussion? Or... is there another channel for support 19:05 < siebrand> werdna: anyway, mind if I make some changes in that area, or want me to file a bug and get some input on that first/ 19:06 < wikibugs> (NEW) Opt-in user flow takes user to log out and opt-out - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21509 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (nkomura) 19:06 * OverlordQ points TR to the topic 19:06 < TR> ... Good point. 19:07 < wikibugs> (mod) Opt-in user flow takes user to log out and opt-out - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21509 (nkomura) 19:07 < wikibugs> (mod) Opt-in user flow takes user to log out and opt-out - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21509 +acai +babaco (nkomura) 19:08 < TR> I'm not going to be redundant and ask if I can ask a question. So! I tried to add custom namespaces to my wiki and it caused the sidebar to be broken for guests. I have no idea why this happened. I think it may have to do with the group configuration settings I put in 19:09 < TR> http://pastebin.com/m467da97f To be more specific about it being "broken", the sidebar is moved down and the pages viewed stretched fully across the screen 19:09 -!- JeroenDeDauw [n=Admin@213-224-29-162.iFiber.telenet-ops.be] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:09 < TR> Anyone, any ideas? 19:09 -!- JeroenDeDauw [n=Admin@213-224-29-162.iFiber.telenet-ops.be] has joined #mediawiki 19:10 -!- enomil [n=enomil@wikimedia/Enomil] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:10 -!- enomil` [n=enomil@wikimedia/Enomil] has joined #mediawiki 19:13 < wikibugs> (mod) Yahoo 'temporarily' blocking lists.wikimedia.org emails - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20507 +comment (Platonides) 19:14 < Platonides> TR, sidebar moved down -> you have an html syntax error on some mediawiki: message 19:14 < Platonides> that pastebin can't produce the effect you report 19:14 < TR> A HTML error? 19:15 < TR> What may I have done to produce it? Didn't edit anything in the skins 19:15 < Platonides> some mediawiki message 19:16 < Platonides> eg. you opened a
but didn't close it 19:16 < Platonides> I'd need to look at your wiki to know where exactly the problem is 19:18 < wikibugs> (mod) Yahoo 'temporarily' blocking lists.wikimedia.org emails - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20507 (agarrett) 19:18 -!- JeroenDeDauw [n=Admin@213-224-29-162.iFiber.telenet-ops.be] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:19 < TR> Ahh 19:19 < Platonides> werdna, I only CCed you for references 19:19 < Platonides> I don't think Lqt was related 19:19 < werdna> that guy is really pissing me off 19:19 -!- JeroenDeDauw [n=Admin@213-224-29-162.iFiber.telenet-ops.be] has joined #mediawiki 19:20 < guillom> he's a professional PITA 19:24 -!- Bdka [n=bdk@wikipedia/bdka] has joined #mediawiki 19:25 -!- vvv [n=vvv@mediawiki/VasilievVV] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:25 -!- JeroenDeDauw [n=Admin@213-224-29-162.iFiber.telenet-ops.be] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:26 -!- JeroenDeDauw [n=Admin@213-224-29-162.iFiber.telenet-ops.be] has joined #mediawiki 19:26 -!- vvv [n=vvv@mediawiki/VasilievVV] has joined #mediawiki 19:27 -!- RoanKattouw [n=RoanKatt@83.119.125.27] has joined #mediawiki 19:28 < wikibugs> (mod) Welcome Beta page has opt-out survey - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21508 +comment (roan.kattouw) 19:29 < wikibugs> (mod) Opt-in user flow takes user to log out and opt-out - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21509 (roan.kattouw) 19:30 -!- yoyo[RKN] [n=Miranda@i577B7D16.versanet.de] has joined #mediawiki 19:31 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@221.30.73-86.rev.gaoland.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:32 < wikibugs> (mod) Improve security for Special:Userlogin (tracking) - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9816 high->normal; +comment (verdy_p) 19:33 < guillom> oh gawd 19:36 < OverlordQ> wait what? 19:36 < OverlordQ> "However, even if a password is not strong enough, users should still not be 19:36 < OverlordQ> forbidden access completely: he should be denied from using the secure server, 19:36 < OverlordQ> but will be informed that his password is not strong enough to be used there, 19:36 < OverlordQ> but he will have the option to go to the non-secure servers. 19:36 < OverlordQ> shit 19:36 * OverlordQ dropkicks firefox 19:36 < OverlordQ> SO if you password isn't 'secure' enough you're forced to send it over plaintext? 19:36 -!- siebrand_alt [n=beis@sm.xs4all.nl] has joined #mediawiki 19:36 < flyingparchment> ... what? 19:37 < OverlordQ> that's what I took from his argument there 19:37 < OverlordQ> If it's not strong enough forbid logging in through the secure server and be forced to use the non-secure servers, which seems backasswards to me 19:39 -!- JeroenDeDauw [n=Admin@213-224-29-162.iFiber.telenet-ops.be] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:39 -!- JeroenDeDauw [n=Admin@213-224-29-162.iFiber.telenet-ops.be] has joined #mediawiki 19:39 -!- Bryan [n=launch@wikimedia-commons/Bryan] has joined #mediawiki 19:40 < wikibugs> (mod) Improve security for Special:Userlogin (tracking) - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9816 +comment (roan.kattouw) 19:40 -!- JeroenDeDauw [n=Admin@213-224-29-162.iFiber.telenet-ops.be] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:41 < guillom> just don't try to understand what he says; besides being obnoxious, he doesn't make sense 19:41 < RoanKattouw> OverlordQ: The whole argument is backwards. First he says he doesn't believe in password restrictions, then he proposes some 19:41 -!- enomil [n=enomil@wikimedia/Enomil] has joined #mediawiki 19:41 < RoanKattouw> The same guy was also a total asshole on the LQT e-mail bug, even threatening to have Andrew stripped of his commit access 19:41 < werdna> haha, did he say that? 19:42 < werdna> I didn't read most of the threads there 19:42 < guillom> I missed this one 19:42 < RoanKattouw> werdna: Well not you specifically, lemme pull up that quotwe 19:42 -!- ITrace [n=justinst@75-167-123-91.desm.qwest.net] has quit [] 19:42 < werdna> iirc he wanted me skinned for spamming mail about the election as well 19:42 < RoanKattouw> As long as there will be no simple way to have global preferences to make sure 19:42 < RoanKattouw> that no wiki will use some new functionality implemented locally), NEVER redo 19:42 < RoanKattouw> that in the future. Otherwise we will vote for blocking and excluding the 19:43 < RoanKattouw> authors of these extensions for severe abuse of user rights, and we'll want to 19:43 < wikibugs> (mod) Spammed by thread traffic - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21457 (verdy_p) 19:43 < RoanKattouw> have them removed from the list of users with commit rights in MediaWiki SVN. 19:43 < werdna> haha 19:43 < RoanKattouw> (the above is a quote from bug 21457, for clarity) 19:43 < guillom> oh please block him from bugzilla 19:43 < guillom> there he goes again 19:43 < RoanKattouw> I was tempted to give a lashing response about how the CTO has the sole authority over commit access 19:43 < guillom> well, wait, on second thought, when he's abusing bugzilla, he's not abusing fr.wiki 19:43 -!- SPQRobin [n=Robin@wikimedia/SPQRobin] has joined #mediawiki 19:44 -!- buzz_ [n=jools@lan.oxfordinspire.co.uk] has joined #mediawiki 19:44 < wikibugs> (NEW) Increase $wgAccountCreationThrottle for uem wikiweel - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21510 normal; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (Platonides) 19:45 -!- zrh [n=zrh@dynamic-198-055.catv.glattnet.ch] has left #mediawiki [] 19:45 < werdna> ah, what an ass. I'll respond later 19:46 < Platonides> people with commit access aren't relevant. It's the people which reviewed them for use in wikimedia who should be made responsible for that 19:46 < werdna> which was the same person, incidentally :) 19:46 < werdna> but seriously, I will bet a large amount of money he didn't actually receive thousands of messages. 19:46 < Platonides> but that's a different point 19:46 < werdna> probably like 20 19:47 -!- Keshaun_Williams [n=kk122296@ool-4570c1ff.dyn.optonline.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:47 < werdna> the fastest-moving page that uses LiquidThreads has a few posts per day 19:48 -!- enomil` [n=enomil@wikimedia/Enomil] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:48 < Platonides> well, he's also spamming siebrand 19:48 < Platonides> translatewiki will soon update if it hasn't yet 19:50 -!- Marco27 [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:51 < wikibugs> (mod) Flood flag for Stragetic Planning - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20347 +comment (henk) 19:51 < RoanKattouw> Platonides: Yeah but this guy doesn't understand, he's just threatening people 19:51 -!- siebrand [n=beis@sm.xs4all.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:52 < RoanKattouw> I'm not worried about Andrew (he knows better) but I don't want this to scare off any less experienced developers 19:52 -!- RoanKattouw is now known as RoanKattouw_away 19:52 < wikibugs> (mod) Spammed by thread traffic - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21457 +comment (roan.kattouw) 19:52 < Platonides> well, I would prefer getting all the emails 19:53 < Platonides> you know, my email client can filter them if needed 19:54 -!- Hosiryuhosi [n=Hosiryuh@wikipedia/Hosiryuhosi] has quit ["Leaving..."] 19:54 < Platonides> having a feature that spams people too much, isn't good but this guy is noone to crucify the developer 19:54 < flyingparchment> Platonides: i'm fairly sure avar's question wasn't "what does this error mean", but rather "why is load-next producing this error when it previously worked fine?" 19:54 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@dhcp-077-250-053-164.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:56 < Platonides> probably a change on ps version 19:56 < Platonides> perhaps there are several ps utilities there 19:56 < avar> :) 19:56 < flyingparchment> very unlikely 19:56 < Platonides> avar, I hope it was helpful 19:56 < flyingparchment> unless debian completely changed their ps in a security update 19:56 < Platonides> is it a debian box? 19:57 < Platonides> I thought it might be solaris 19:57 < avar> if [ -e $PIDFILE ]; then 19:57 < avar> if [ "$(ps -p `cat $PIDFILE 19:57 < Platonides> a race condition with $PIDFILE not existing? 19:57 < werdna> thanks RoanKattouw_away :) 19:58 < Platonides> this error mean", but rather "why is load-next producing this error when it previously worked fine?" 19:58 < Platonides> 19:54:55 * GerardM- (n=chatzill@dhcp-077-250-053-164.chello.nl) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:58 < Platonides> sorry 19:58 < Platonides> "ERROR: List of process IDs must follow -p" look like cat didn't produce any result 19:58 < Platonides> or rather, that $PIDFILE was empty 19:59 < Platonides> so a -s test could be better 20:00 < avar> gah, why must people write shellscript, there's no symbolic debuger;/ 20:01 < Platonides> you're free to write the script in whatever language it fits you 20:01 -!- recover [i=recover@ip21278.lbinternet.se] has left #mediawiki ["Leaving"] 20:01 < werdna> shell script sucks 20:01 -!- recover [i=recover@ip21278.lbinternet.se] has joined #mediawiki 20:01 < werdna> like wikitext :) 20:01 < Platonides> xD 20:02 < Bryan> nobody likes it but everybody uses it? 20:02 < mutante> on www.mediawiki.org i get the "You have new messages." thing, then when i click i get "There are no new messages for you." on Special:NewMessages 20:02 < werdna> ah, must be a liquidthreads bug 20:03 < Platonides> I remember it happened to me somewhere... 20:03 -!- mgrabovsky [n=MGrab@wikipedia/Mat--j-Grabovsk--] has quit ["Carpe diem"] 20:03 < wikibugs> (mod) Improve security for Special:Userlogin (tracking) - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9816 (verdy_p) 20:04 < mutante> i see it on Extension:SmoothGallery 20:05 < OverlordQ> awww LQT got enabled on MW? 20:05 < werdna> yeah 20:05 < OverlordQ> doesn't it need some tag on the page first though? 20:05 < werdna> http://www.theonion.com/content/news/area_man_passionate_defender_of 20:06 < werdna> yes, but it hijacks the new messages text 20:06 < avar> Platonides: I'r rather just have mazder make it his problem:) 20:07 < Platonides> who's mazder? 20:08 < avar> Peter, guy who wrote the script 20:08 < avar> anyway I'm trying -s instead of -p 20:08 < avar> uh, -s instead of -e 20:10 < wikibugs> (mod) Improve security for Special:Userlogin (tracking) - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9816 (verdy_p) 20:12 < Platonides> Peter Körner ? 20:12 < guillom> hahahahaha 20:13 < guillom> *he will never stop* 20:13 < Platonides> that's a nickname quite unrelated 20:13 < Platonides> or perhaps not since he writes from osm-lists@mazdermind.de :P 20:13 < Platonides> hopefully the -s change will make the error go away 20:14 < Platonides> I think there's also a way to place the content of the file without using cat 20:14 < Platonides> but it's a bashism 20:15 -!- G_SabinoMullane [n=greg@pool-71-162-163-230.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #mediawiki 20:17 -!- GChriss [n=gsc127@wikimedia/GChriss] has joined #mediawiki 20:17 -!- guillom [n=guillaum@wikimedia/guillom] has quit ["dinner"] 20:17 < CIA-66> greg * r59073 /trunk/extensions/RT/ (RT.php RT_body.php): 20:17 < CIA-66> Allow tables to be sortable, both globally and per invocation. 20:17 < CIA-66> Bump to version 1.9 20:17 -!- Marco27 [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has joined #mediawiki 20:18 < avar> Platonides: "place the content of the file"? 20:18 < Platonides> an equivalent of `cat $PIDFILE` without an external command 20:19 -!- robla [n=robla@c-76-104-247-13.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has left #mediawiki ["Leaving."] 20:20 < Nikerabbit> ygga 20:21 -!- flubub1113 [n=Flubub@dslb-094-217-098-105.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20:21 -!- carl-m|away is now known as carl-m 20:21 < flyingparchment> $( If you're trying to avoid external commands in shellscript you may or may not be using the wrong language for the job :) 20:22 < avar> But cool:) 20:23 -!- wolog [n=wolog@AOrleans-152-1-64-149.w90-21.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #mediawiki 20:23 -!- Haley [n=Haley@wikimedia/Dalibor-Bosits] has joined #mediawiki 20:23 -!- CrazyDC [n=d_c_1990@cpc2-farn3-0-0-cust108.glfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #mediawiki 20:24 -!- filmprog [n=filmprog@c-67-171-116-67.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:24 -!- TR [n=trueabso@213-94-255-80-dynamic.b-ras1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net] has quit ["Off to have dinner! Thanks for the help, Platonides"] 20:24 < Platonides> the case is, shellscript uses too much external commands 20:25 < avar> /w/w 13 20:25 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@dhcp-077-250-053-164.chello.nl] has joined #mediawiki 20:25 < flyingparchment> the problem is not using external commands, it's that the pid file doesn't exist or is empty 20:26 < Platonides> that's why I suggested using -s instead of -e 20:26 < Platonides> although if it exists, it shouldn't be empty, who know what happenned there :P 20:27 < flyingparchment> that is the question which needs to be answered ot fix the problem 20:28 < Platonides> another option is to fix renderd so it doens't crash 20:28 < Platonides> *doesn't 20:29 < flyingparchment> how is this related to renderd? 20:30 < Platonides> wasn't the script restarting renderd if it crashed? 20:30 < Platonides> I assume that was it's duty 20:30 < Platonides> *assumed 20:30 < flyingparchment> no, it loads osmosis diffs and imports them into postgres 20:30 < CIA-66> greg * r59074 /trunk/extensions/RT/RT_body.php: Extract epoch to make all date columns sortable. 20:30 < flyingparchment> if it restarted renderd, 'restart-renderd' would probably be a better name ;) 20:31 -!- Mike_lifeguard [n=Mike@wikimedia/mikelifeguard] has joined #mediawiki 20:31 < Platonides> avar mail a couple of days ago that he was restarting renderd every 5 mins on cron lead me to think it was the PID this script was checking 20:32 < CIA-66> greg * r59075 /trunk/extensions/RT/RT_body.php: Allow limit=xx as an alias for l=xx 20:33 -!- filmprog [n=filmprog@c-67-171-116-67.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #mediawiki 20:33 < wikibugs> (mod) Spammed by thread traffic - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21457 (verdy_p) 20:35 < avar> awright, checking the pid file regularly.. 20:35 < flyingparchment> btw, the use of ps here is silly anyway 20:35 < flyingparchment> should use kill -0 instead 20:38 < wikibugs> (mod) Spammed by thread traffic - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21457 +comment (Platonides) 20:38 < avar> true:) 20:38 < Platonides> or check /proc/$PID/ 20:38 < flyingparchment> that is significantly less portable 20:39 < Platonides> which OS don't have /proc/ this days? 20:39 < OverlordQ> pidof? 20:39 < flyingparchment> freebsd and hp-ux come to mind 20:39 < wikibugs> (mod) "Edit" link not working as expected - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13287 (verdy_p) 20:39 < Mike_lifeguard> yeah, the email didn't help 20:40 < Mike_lifeguard> Do we know verdy_p's on-wiki username? 20:41 < Platonides> seems it's Verdy_p 20:41 < Platonides> (from http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Breton-language-spoken-Spilhennig.svg) 20:46 < wikibugs> (mod) Spammed by thread traffic - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21457 (siebrand) 20:47 < siebrand_alt> he's a known character in many places, Platonides / Mike_lifeguard. 20:48 -!- siebrand_alt is now known as siebrand 20:48 -!- mdale [n=dale@pdpc/supporter/student/mdale] has quit ["Leaving."] 20:48 < Mike_lifeguard> siebrand: I guess so :( 20:48 < siebrand> I assume my last comment leaves nothing to the imagination. 20:49 < Platonides> I see from a Google search that he has been on many projects 20:50 < siebrand> See http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Thread:Support/Messages_followups_suddenly_coming_by_emails_:_this_is_just_spam_from_this_wiki_! 20:51 -!- LordQuackstar [n=chatzill@74-131-53-85.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #mediawiki 20:52 < LordQuackstar> After taking a break from the project, i still cannot figure it out. I'm tring to have short url's for my wiki. Its in the wiki folder and is called by that (i'm not having randomly named folders). My .htaccess works (Main_Page shows me the main page). However, all links are still in the old format. How would i make them be in the new format? 20:53 < LordQuackstar> I've poured over the manual, followed everything, and it still dosen't work 20:53 < OverlordQ> touch LocalSettings.php 20:53 < LordQuackstar> Here's what i have: http://pastebin.com/m3d753294 20:54 < LordQuackstar> OverlordQ: I don't have root access 20:54 < Platonides> !manual $wgArticlePath 20:54 < mwbot> An introduction to using MediaWiki is at , see for information about copying it to your own wiki. More technical information for MediaWiki administrators is at . For an introduction on programming with MediaWiki, see . 20:54 < Platonides> you change $wgArticlePath 20:54 -!- GreenWireless [n=greenrea@unaffiliated/greenreaper] has joined #mediawiki 20:54 < LordQuackstar> Platonides: I did 20:54 < OverlordQ> putting script files into the same location you're rewriting too will generally be non-good 20:55 < Platonides> and your rewriting will break for pages like [[some/page]] 20:55 < LordQuackstar> The [L] flag prevents recurive redirection. And htaccess works fine. Its mediawiki that won't make url's shorter 20:56 < Platonides> your htaccess don't work for article titles containing a slash 20:56 < LordQuackstar> Hmm... 20:56 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59076 /trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialDeletedContributions.php: Add tools link to user rights management for proviledged users 20:56 < Mike_lifeguard> LordQuackstar: it isn't supposed to be in /wiki/ 20:57 < LordQuackstar> What? 20:57 < Mike_lifeguard> (assuming you want /wiki/article links like WMF wikis) 20:57 -!- GDR [n=trueabso@213-94-255-80-dynamic.b-ras1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net] has joined #mediawiki 20:57 -!- zrh [n=zrh@dynamic-198-055.catv.glattnet.ch] has joined #mediawiki 20:57 < LordQuackstar> I guess i'm forced to rename the folder? 20:58 < CIA-66> raymond * r59077 /trunk/ (153 files in 59 dirs): Localisation updates for core and extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-11-14 19:30 UTC) 20:58 -!- GDR [n=trueabso@213-94-255-80-dynamic.b-ras1.dbn.dublin.eircom.net] has left #mediawiki [] 20:58 < LordQuackstar> But even if i do, its still not going to solve the problem of mediawiki not giving short url's 20:59 < Platonides> right 20:59 -!- MrZ-man [i=MrZ-man@mediawiki/MrZ-man] has quit ["Read Error: 118 (Connection to cabal server terminated by remote host)"] 20:59 < Platonides> where have you added the $wgArticlePath line? 21:00 < LordQuackstar> The localsettings.php file 21:00 -!- CrazyDC [n=d_c_1990@cpc2-farn3-0-0-cust108.glfd.cable.ntl.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:00 < OverlordQ> !rewriteproblems 21:00 < mwbot> 1) Try as a fail-safe method; 2) Do not put the files into the document root; 3) Do not map the pages into the document root; 4) Use different, non-overlapping paths for real files and virtual pages; 5) Do not set a RewriteBase; 6) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root. 21:00 < OverlordQ> from what I can tell you're violating #3 and #5 21:01 < OverlordQ> err 4 not 3 21:01 < Platonides> LordQuackstar, which part of localsettings.php? 21:01 < Platonides> at the top? at the bottom? 21:01 < LordQuackstar> the end 21:01 < Mike_lifeguard> Can you change preferences (specifically the signature) through API? 21:01 < LordQuackstar> Thats what the guides said 21:02 < Platonides> that's the right way 21:02 < Bryan> Mike_lifeguard: no 21:03 < Mike_lifeguard> k 21:03 < Bryan> werdna once posted a patch to bugzilla but he forgot to svn add ApiPreferences.php :) 21:03 < Platonides> what is the value of wgArticlePath if you look at the source of a wiki page? 21:03 < LordQuackstar> Platonides: Hang on, i'm tring to get my rewriting to work 21:05 < Mike_lifeguard> Bryan: seriously? So it's written & ready, but not committed? 21:06 < stephan48> Are there example how to print a list of sites in a cat via cat name or id? 21:06 < Bryan> ask werdna 21:06 < Bryan> for reference 21:06 -!- GreenReaper [n=greenrea@unaffiliated/greenreaper] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 21:06 -!- GreenWireless is now known as GreenReaper 21:07 < zrh> The German Wikipedia is currently under heavy fire from many critics ... many of them call MediaWiki outdated and stagnating ... do you care? 21:07 -!- carl-m is now known as carl-m|away 21:07 -!- dori [n=dori@wikipedia/Dori] has joined #mediawiki 21:09 < OverlordQ> wikipedia is outdated or mediawiki is outdated? 21:10 < Skizzerz> mediawiki is under active development 21:10 < Skizzerz> and wikipedia runs very current versions of the software 21:10 < Platonides> they probably want wysiwyg editing 21:10 < Skizzerz> the only "outdated" bits of it are probably the skin and as Platonides mentioned the editing interface, both of which are being worked on by a Usability Initiative at the moment 21:10 -!- Cain` [n=Geek@unaffiliated/cain] has joined #MediaWiki 21:11 < Skizzerz> not wysiwyg yet, but one can hope 21:11 < LordQuackstar> Platonides: Now all the css and js is broken... Here's my settings: http://pastebin.com/d5f4d4d7c 21:11 * OverlordQ wont comment on what circle of hell the vector skin should be banished too 21:11 < zrh> OverlordQ: MediaWiki ... 21:11 < zrh> Platonides: ... probably more Web 2.0. 21:11 < Skizzerz> wikis are as web 2.0 as you can get 21:12 < LordQuackstar> Platonides: And the source config from the website: http://pastebin.com/d72109758 21:12 < Platonides> LordQuackstar, have you changed $wgStylePath ? 21:12 < Skizzerz> (well, not really, but the general premise of the wiki is certainly web 2.0) 21:12 * OverlordQ hates that buzzword 21:12 < LordQuackstar> didn't know i had to... 21:12 < Platonides> var wgArticlePath = "/wiki/index.php?title=$1"; -> it isn't getting the $wgArticlePath 21:12 < zrh> Maybe, they miss a link to Twitter ... although I wouldn't be surprise if there already were a Twitter extension for MW ... :) 21:12 < Skizzerz> OverlordQ: I hate every buzzword out there :) 21:12 < Platonides> LordQuackstar, you chouldn't need to change it 21:12 < zrh> ... and of course, there's some hype about http://github.com/scy/levitation 21:13 < Platonides> it should pick it automatically from $wgScriptPath 21:13 < Skizzerz> especially when they're misused 21:13 < Skizzerz> fuck twitter 21:13 < zrh> Skizzerz: 21:13 < zrh> ;) 21:13 < OverlordQ> imo Web 2.0 means flashy interfaces that dont do much 21:13 < Skizzerz> it's nothing more than a passing fad 21:14 < LordQuackstar> Considering this was working 5 minuites ago, it has to with the changed paths 21:14 < Skizzerz> but anyway, OverlordQ: I never said they were doing a good job with Vector, I just said they were working on it ;) 21:14 < OverlordQ> :P 21:14 < Skizzerz> now if they made everything all pretty an AJAX-y, then I might change my mind about that 21:14 < Skizzerz> *and 21:14 < OverlordQ> why'd you want to put a WM dump into git besides the 'you can do it' factor? 21:14 -!- j^ [n=j@g225046146.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:15 -!- MaxSem [n=max@wikimedia/MaxSem] has joined #mediawiki 21:15 < stephan48> where could i find informations how to write custom api addons? 21:16 < OverlordQ> unless it's allowing you to see the wiki as-is at a certain point in time, then that's kinda cool but you'd still need something to render the markup 21:16 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59078 /trunk/phase3/includes/specials/ (SpecialContributions.php SpecialDeletedContributions.php): Sync contributionsSub from SpecialContributions.php and getSubTitle in SpecialDeletedContributions.php. Refactoring opportunity. 21:17 < LordQuackstar> btw, even after this change all the links are still in the xpanded format... 21:18 < OverlordQ> try putting ?action=purge at the end of the url 21:20 < LordQuackstar> actually wait, i know whats going on: the .htaccess is trying to redirect all the css files to index.php?page=something.css 21:20 < LordQuackstar> uhh... 21:21 < LordQuackstar> The code on the manual is wrong then 21:21 < OverlordQ> which one did you follow? 21:22 < LordQuackstar> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access 21:22 -!- RoanKattouw_away is now known as RoanKattouw 21:23 < RoanKattouw> stephan48: The API documentation at www.mediawiki.org has some docs on that. Questions can always be asked on the mediawiki-api list or directly to me 21:23 < stephan48> ui :) 21:23 < stephan48> thx 21:23 < OverlordQ> what folders are your files in 21:23 < OverlordQ> *folder 21:24 < LordQuackstar> the wiki is stored in /mediawiki and the vanity url is /wiki 21:25 < OverlordQ> and what does your localsettings and .htaccess say? 21:25 < zrh> $wgScriptPath should be /mediawiki in this case 21:25 < LordQuackstar> http://pastebin.com/d787f23a 21:26 -!- enomil` [n=enomil@wikimedia/Enomil] has joined #mediawiki 21:26 < LordQuackstar> oops 21:26 < zrh> http://pastebin.com/m78e8a6a7 21:27 < zrh> (in this example, /w is used instead of /mediawiki) 21:27 -!- Cain [n=Geek@unaffiliated/cain] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:27 -!- Cain` is now known as Cain 21:28 < OverlordQ> yea, you need to switch around your script path and article path, and set $wgUsePathInfo = true; 21:28 -!- kibble [n=cbrown@wikimedia/Cbrown1023] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 21:28 < OverlordQ> http://pastebin.com/meb631e7 21:29 < zrh> OverlordQ: Is $wgUsePathInfo new? I use nice URLs without problems, however, $wgUsePathInfo is not listed in my LocalSettings.php ... 21:30 < OverlordQ> no 21:30 < LordQuackstar> wgUsePathInfo is set true 21:30 -!- PDD [i=PDD@wikipedia/PDD] has joined #mediawiki 21:32 -!- Marco27 [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:33 -!- kibble [n=cbrown@wikimedia/Cbrown1023] has joined #mediawiki 21:33 -!- j^ [n=j@g225046149.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #mediawiki 21:33 < mutante> hmm, now i tried WikiGallery, and SmoothGallery and Slideshow.php , i am on MW 1.15.1 and non-monobook, nothing seems to work, none of the javascript features, nothing moves, just broken layout. Any other extension to get slideshows or enhanced galleries where you can click "next" and browser thru images? 21:33 < LordQuackstar> Updated to current settings: http://pastebin.com/d43d970a7 21:34 * LordQuackstar is getting frustracted 21:35 < Alphos> frustraction leads to the dark side of the force 21:38 -!- ITrace [n=justinst@75-167-123-91.desm.qwest.net] has joined #mediawiki 21:38 -!- enomil [n=enomil@wikimedia/Enomil] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:40 < LordQuackstar> I've got Tamper Data up, everything results in 404 and 403's (the common's skin gives a 301 for some reason) 21:48 -!- karun [n=karun@pdpc/supporter/active/karun] has joined #mediawiki 21:50 -!- zrh [n=zrh@dynamic-198-055.catv.glattnet.ch] has left #mediawiki [] 21:52 < wikibugs> (REOPENED) Make Navigable TOC collapsible - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21226 +comment (ThomasBleher) 21:59 < wikibugs> (NEW) Document all parameters that can be used in LocalSettings.php - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21511 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (ThomasBleher) 21:59 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59079 /trunk/ (70 files in 45 dirs): Update break notation to self enclosed and properly spaced 22:00 < OverlordQ> O_O 22:01 -!- BenutzerConny [n=chatzill@p57A99B05.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #mediawiki 22:02 < BenutzerConny> Ola, in Mediawiki 1.6.10 is a imagescaler after uploading picture. How to use this on article pages? 22:02 < BenutzerConny> http://www.htw-dresden.de/~fsr_lblp/wiki/pot81/index.php/AG_Flyer/Ergebnisse 22:02 < BenutzerConny> it should work so: http://www.htw-dresden.de/~fsr_lblp/wiki/pot81/index.php/Bild:A3_Mobiplakat2.jpg 22:03 -!- Haley [n=Haley@wikimedia/Dalibor-Bosits] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:04 -!- Haley [n=Haley@wikimedia/Dalibor-Bosits] has joined #mediawiki 22:06 -!- flubub1113 [n=Flubub@dslb-094-217-098-105.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #mediawiki 22:07 < Platonides> BenutzerConny, you should upgrade 22:07 -!- LordQuackstar [n=chatzill@74-131-53-85.dhcp.insightbb.com] has quit ["Need to take a break"] 22:07 < BenutzerConny> Platonides: I have no pop 5.x 22:07 < BenutzerConny> php 22:07 -!- elapse [n=Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 22:08 < Platonides> php4 is also unsupported 22:08 < Platonides> your problem is that you don't have image scaling configured 22:08 -!- brion [n=brion@c-24-5-64-220.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #mediawiki 22:08 < flyingparchment> BenutzerConny: are you sure you don't have php5? many web hosts support php 5 using the ".php5" extension 22:10 < BenutzerConny> Platonides: Hm, cant find a page for this http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=+image+scaling&go=Seite 22:10 < BenutzerConny> flyingparchment: I should test maybe. I have no root rights there... 22:10 < flyingparchment> you don't need root access to create a file with a .php5 extension 22:11 < Platonides> !thumb 22:11 < mwbot> For information on configuring thumbnailing on MediaWiki, please refer to . 22:11 -!- elapse [n=Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego] has joined #mediawiki 22:12 < BenutzerConny> thx 22:12 < BenutzerConny> Other questian, how to activate "Warnungen ignorieren" as standard? http://www.htw-dresden.de/~fsr_lblp/wiki/pot81/index.php/Spezial:Upload 22:12 -!- Cynical [n=cynical_@24-151-198-29.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com] has joined #mediawiki 22:13 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@dhcp-077-250-053-164.chello.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:13 < Platonides> I don't think you really want that 22:14 < Cynical> can anyone tell me how I can use html code in my wiki like or What about something like this extension. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AddHTML 22:18 < Cynical> would that word? 22:18 < Cynical> work* 22:18 < Platonides> maybe 22:18 < Platonides> there's also an option to allow html 22:18 < Platonides> the problem is, that's insecure 22:18 < Cynical> insecure meaning? 22:19 -!- RoanKattouw is now known as RoanKattouw_away 22:19 < flyingparchment> it lets any user add arbitrary html to your pages 22:19 < BenutzerConny> Platonides: Point is, that the 1.6.10 can scale images (after upload dialog) but not on artikle pages... 22:19 < Platonides> malicious people could steal your users passwords 22:19 < Cynical> oh I ain't worried about that. My wiki is just for me and a few friends. 22:19 < Platonides> on your case, the way would be to create an extension to provide the Cynical: so you restrict account creation and/or editing? 22:19 < Cynical> I don't know how to create an extention 22:20 < Platonides> BenutzerConny, they aren't scaled 22:20 -!- saper [n=saper@wikipedia/saper] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 22:20 < Platonides> the full images are shown with the size restricted 22:20 < BenutzerConny> Platonides: But the fit with the page ;) . 22:20 < Bryan> !html Cynical 22:20 < mwbot> For allowing any and all HTML, see . This is of course VERY DANGEROUS. Safer options include , and . 22:20 < Cynical> I restrict editing of non users. don't know how to restrict account creation yet 22:20 < Platonides> it's scaled by your browser 22:20 < Bryan> basically $wgRawHtml 22:20 < Platonides> !accountcreation 22:20 < mwbot> I don't know anything about "accountcreation". 22:21 < Cynical> so I set $wgRawHtml = true; in the localsettings? 22:21 < Platonides> Cynical, just as editing 22:21 < Platonides> but with createaccount right 22:21 < Platonides> $wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = false; 22:21 -!- brion [n=brion@wikipedia/Brion-VIBBER] has quit [] 22:21 < Cynical> ahh ok ill add that 22:22 -!- saper [i=saper@wikipedia/saper] has joined #mediawiki 22:22 < Cynical> then I can add $wgRawHtml = true; to get what I want with html? 22:25 < Platonides> you place raw html inside ... 22:26 -!- Emufarmers [i=Emufarme@mediawiki/Emufarmers] has joined #mediawiki 22:27 < Cynical> maybe I should try that extention first 22:27 -!- saper [i=saper@wikipedia/saper] has quit [Success] 22:27 -!- saper [i=saper@wikipedia/saper] has joined #mediawiki 22:27 < CIA-66> overlordq * r59080 /trunk/phase3/includes/ (7 files): Code cleanup, covert leading spaces into tabs per coding style 22:27 -!- Natalie changed the topic of #mediawiki to: MediaWiki support and development | Read the FAQ! http://tr.im/l0A2 | Latest stable: 1.15.1 | Security fixes: 1.15.1, 1.14.1, 1.6.12 | Don't paste text: http://dpaste.org/ | Channel logged: http://is.gd/3pEd | Search the logs: http://is.gd/1BE0S | Want a MW cloak? http://bit.ly/3gca90 22:28 -!- Emufarmers [i=Emufarme@mediawiki/Emufarmers] has left #mediawiki [] 22:29 < Bryan> do the translatewiki folks use CodeReview or should everything just be marked deferred? 22:31 -!- Amgine [n=Amgine@wikinews/Amgine] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:32 < Cynical> where do I get the ExtentionClass.php? 22:35 -!- MojoDodo [n=mojo@p5B3020CC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #mediawiki 22:35 -!- mdale [n=dale@pdpc/supporter/student/mdale] has joined #mediawiki 22:36 < MojoDodo> hey, with Special:Import i want to import about 200 xml files, does anybody know how to import them all togehter, i dont want to click on 200 files separately 22:41 < Natalie> Check maintenance/ for a script? 22:45 < Cynical> thx all for the help 22:45 -!- Cynical [n=cynical_@24-151-198-29.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com] has quit [] 22:45 < BenutzerConny> Ok, thx... 22:45 < BenutzerConny> cu 22:45 -!- BenutzerConny [n=chatzill@p57A99B05.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 22:50 < Platonides> MojoDodo, maintenance/importDump.php 22:54 < MojoDodo> Platonides: thanks. therefore i have to create a dump file right? the problem is that i have 200 single xml files 22:55 < MojoDodo> Platonides: or does xml-dump just mean the same like "xml file"? 22:55 -!- Marco27 [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has joined #mediawiki 22:56 < Platonides> it's the same 22:56 < Platonides> just loop calling the script for each of your files 23:00 < MojoDodo> ok, i dont know much about the command line, how to loop them if their names are 0001,0002,..... 23:00 < Platonides> I guees they are all files .xml and the only .xml files on the folder? 23:01 < Platonides> for i in *.xml; do $i; done 23:02 < Platonides> erm, sorry 23:02 < Platonides> for i in *.xml; do php importDump.php $i; done 23:02 -!- Mike_lifeguard is now known as Mike||gone 23:02 < Nikerabbit> evening 23:02 < Platonides> (assuming that you're not on windows) 23:02 < Platonides> hi, Nikerabbit 23:03 < Platonides> Bryan, did a question about translatewiki above 23:03 -!- Amgine [n=Amgine@wikinews/Amgine] has joined #Mediawiki 23:04 < Nikerabbit> didn't get highlight 23:04 < Nikerabbit> and the question doesn't make any sense 23:05 < Nikerabbit> Bryan: care to explain? 23:05 -!- PDD [i=PDD@wikipedia/PDD] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:05 < MojoDodo> ok thanks alot, i'll try it 23:05 < Bryan> do you use CodeReview to review extension Translate? 23:05 < Bryan> if not, can all revisions be marked as deferred? 23:06 -!- carldani [n=carldani@khepri.openbios.org] has joined #mediawiki 23:07 < carldani> hi 23:07 < Nikerabbit> Bryan: nobody else besides me does any exhaustive code review on it 23:07 < Nikerabbit> I see no point for nor against 23:09 < Bryan> the point for is that we get a clearer overview how much there still is to be reviewed :) 23:09 < Bryan> (for wikimedia) 23:12 < Nikerabbit> if that's the only way to filter irrelevant code, be my guest 23:13 < Bryan> ok thanks 23:13 -!- sDrewth [n=sDrewth@wikisource/billinghurst] has joined #mediawiki 23:13 -!- sDrewth [n=sDrewth@wikisource/billinghurst] has left #mediawiki [] 23:15 -!- guillom [n=guillaum@wikimedia/guillom] has joined #mediawiki 23:16 -!- PDD [i=PDD@wikipedia/PDD] has joined #mediawiki 23:17 -!- Marco27 [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has quit ["'Notte! 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I suspect that it has run afoul of ratelimited because it will edit for a long period of time then suddenly it can't save its edits 23:59 < Reedy> why not trap the api errors and see? 23:59 < harej> Until, of course, I kill the bot's process and re-start it 23:59 -!- Mike||gone is now known as Mike_lifeguard 23:59 < Bryan> because, the api edit code is sucky and does not catch half of the rrors? --- Log closed Sun Nov 15 00:00:02 2009