--- Log opened Sun Nov 15 00:00:02 2009 --- Day changed Sun Nov 15 2009 00:00 < RoanKattouw> Well it does catch ratelimited errors AFAIK 00:00 < RoanKattouw> So he should log API errors on the client side and see why his bot freezes up 00:00 < Bryan> yeah ratelimited is caught I believe 00:00 < Bryan> unfortunately many edit errors are usually "Unknown error $1" 00:01 < Bryan> actually it is the backend that is sucky 00:01 * OverlordQ points to what he said 00:01 < harej> It doesn't freeze, it just procedes as if the edit is successfully saved. That is, until I changed the bot to pay closer attention to errors. Right now I am watching my bot, waiting for it to fall into the trap 00:01 < OverlordQ> if it's getting a ratelimit then something serious is fubar'd with the api :) 00:02 < harej> This takes *several hours* and the bot has been running since about 10:45 AM (it's 6:01 PM now) 00:02 < RoanKattouw> harej: If that's the case than it's either a freak occurrence or a bug in your bot 00:02 < RoanKattouw> ('that' being it taking hours) 00:02 < harej> So it's probably a certain something that derails the bot? 00:04 < p858snake> harej: is your bot approved and have the bot bit attached to the account? 00:05 < harej> Yes and yes. 00:06 < p858snake> get someone to review your bot code then probably, because nothing should be giving it rate limits 00:06 -!- Saruman [n=jan@dworkin.saruman.biz] has quit ["bedtime"] 00:06 < harej> You say this like the code hadn't spent over a month under intense scrutiny. 00:06 -!- DuTempete [n=chatzill@76-234-42-15.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 00:06 < Bryan> fwiw the most common error codes that my bots encounter are badtoken and unknown_error 00:07 < Bryan> badtoken happens approximate once every 200 edits; unknown_error once every 500 00:07 -!- elektryk [n=chatzill@ip-93-179-208-35.ssnet.pl] has joined #mediawiki 00:07 < p858snake> are you sure its editing whilst logged in? that would answer it getting rate limits 00:07 < harej> It is indeed logged in. 00:07 -!- DuTempete [n=chatzill@76-234-42-15.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #mediawiki 00:08 < harej> If it weren't logged in, there would be IP edits from the Toolserver on pages that the bot said it edited but don't show up in Special:Contributions 00:09 -!- DuTempete [n=chatzill@76-234-42-15.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:09 < Bryan> harej: in my experience "suddenly can't save edits" is because your edit token expired somehow 00:09 < Bryan> you'll get a badtoken in that case 00:10 < Bryan> or are you fetching a new token for every edit? 00:10 < harej> So should I have the bot re-login everytime it gets a badtoken? 00:10 < Bryan> are you fetching a new token for every edit? 00:11 < harej> Yes 00:11 -!- elektryk [n=chatzill@ip-93-179-208-35.ssnet.pl] has left #mediawiki [] 00:11 < Bryan> right, then that should not be the problem 00:12 < harej> if ($this->token==null) { 00:12 < harej> $this->token = $this->getedittoken(); 00:12 < harej> } 00:12 -!- ialex [n=IAlex@mediawiki/ialex] has quit [] 00:12 < Bryan> well, try logging the edit result, wouldn't know without further information 00:13 -!- MojoDodo [n=mojo@p5B3020CC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #mediawiki [] 00:13 -!- Platonides [n=Platonid@wikipedia/Platonides] has quit [] 00:13 < Bryan> specifically, log result['edit']['result'] == 'Failure' 00:14 -!- Az1568 is now known as wp4eva 00:16 < cirwin> I'm getting a lot of "badtoken" errors using mwclient on wiktionary - does anyone know why that might be? 00:17 < wikibugs> (mod) Increase $wgAccountCreationThrottle for uem wikiweek - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21510 summary (Platonides) 00:17 < Bryan> yeah me too 00:17 < Bryan> that's because mwclient only fetches the token once every session 00:17 < Bryan> and is too stupid to fetch a new one if the error occurs 00:17 < cirwin> ok, I just get it to .login() when that error happens 00:18 < Bryan> it should do so automatically 00:18 < cirwin> alright - is mwclient your's or a different br[ioay]*ns ? 00:18 < Bryan> there is only one and it is mine 00:18 < Bryan> :) 00:19 < cirwin> are you planning to patch it, or shall I? 00:19 < MaxSem> since editing usually involves modification of existing page text, you have to request some page props anyway, so I retrieve tokens for each page 00:19 < Bryan> I am planning to patch it some day 00:19 < Bryan> yeah could do so as well 00:20 < Bryan> anyway, bye 00:20 -!- Bryan [n=launch@wikimedia-commons/Bryan] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 00:20 < harej> cirwin, that asterisk should be a plus, unless you consider "brn" to be a valid name 00:21 < cirwin> harej: well, with a + then briiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin would be valid 00:21 < cirwin> so it's going to hugely over-generate either way 00:21 -!- dori [n=dori@wikipedia/Dori] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:22 < harej> br[iy][oa]n 00:22 < harej> Problem solved. 00:27 < Amgine> Although it'd be more interesting if Byron showed up. 00:29 -!- Reedy [n=Reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:29 < Mike_lifeguard> LORD BYYYYYYYYRON 00:31 < MaxSem> wow, necromancy 00:32 -!- Betacommand [n=Betacomm@unaffiliated/betacommand] has joined #mediawiki 00:33 < wikibugs> (mod) uploadcorrupt error message is vague and confusing - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18923 (karun) 00:36 < wikibugs> (mod) Wikisource: IPs unable to flag articles as "proofread" - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20812 (joergens.mic) 00:41 -!- bryon| [n=p858snak@ppp118-208-60-159.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #mediawiki 00:41 < bryon|> someone summoned me? 00:42 -!- guillom [n=guillaum@wikimedia/guillom] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 00:42 -!- bryon| [n=p858snak@ppp118-208-60-159.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has quit [Client Quit] 00:42 -!- TimStarling is now known as Tim-away 00:42 -!- guillom [n=guillaum@wikimedia/guillom] has joined #mediawiki 00:43 -!- stephan48 [n=rjp@pdpc/supporter/student/stephan48] has quit ["get satisfied! • :: ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» ::"] 00:47 < carldani> I'm facing a problem which I couldn't find docs for, and the FAQ also doesn't seem to cover my case: I have two mediawiki installations, and I'd like to have any user accessing http://www.coreboot.org/Flashrom to be automatically redirected (HTTP 301) to http://www.flashrom.org/Flashrom 00:48 < Mike_lifeguard> That's a webserver question 00:48 < Mike_lifeguard> #httpd if you use apache 00:48 < OverlordQ> unless you're only wanting certain pages to do that, then I dont think there's a easy way to do that. 00:49 < carldani> Mike_lifeguard: so mediawiki doesn't have a feature to do such a single-page redirect? 00:49 < Mike_lifeguard> not that I'm aware of 00:49 < carldani> All other pages in the coreboot.org mediawiki instance should stay accessible. 00:49 < Tim-away> it's easily done with mod_rewrite 00:50 < Tim-away> or a simple redirect directive 00:50 < carldani> Yes, i'm aware of the apache way, thanks. I just assumed there would be a builtin mediawiki feature doing this. 00:50 < Mike_lifeguard> why would you assume that? 00:51 -!- Haley [n=Haley@wikimedia/Dalibor-Bosits] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:51 < carldani> Mike_lifeguard: Well, mediawiki can do internal redirects. 00:52 < carldani> Hm. Not real redirects, more like "make page x appear at address y" 00:52 < carldani> I take the "internal redirect" comment back. 00:53 -!- RoanKattouw [n=RoanKatt@mediawiki/Catrope] has quit ["zzzzzzzz"] 00:53 -!- jdpond [n=jdpond@mediawiki/jpond] has joined #MediaWiki 00:54 < Mike_lifeguard> that's fair 00:54 < wikibugs> (ASSIGNED) NoLocalSettings.php sometimes fails to display the MW logo - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21215 (karun) 00:55 < carldani> And now for a totally different question: It seems http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gallery_of_user_styles has loads of missing/broken images. 00:55 < carldani> Is that due to the move from http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gallery_of_user_styles ? 00:56 < Mike_lifeguard> no, that was done intentionally 00:56 < Mike_lifeguard> which is obnoxious 00:56 -!- MaxSem [n=max@wikimedia/MaxSem] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:57 < wikibugs> (mod) NoLocalSettings.php sometimes fails to display the MW logo - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21215 (karun) 00:59 < carldani> So someone would have to upload all missing files to the new site as well to unbreak this? 01:00 -!- SPQRobin [n=Robin@wikimedia/SPQRobin] has quit ["Leaving."] 01:00 < Mike_lifeguard> no, the ones that say "no image available" simply don't have a screenshot available, so someone put in that stupid placeholder image 01:01 < wikibugs> (mod) NoLocalSettings.php sometimes fails to display the MW logo - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21215 +easy +need-review +patch (karun) 01:01 < Mike_lifeguard> some of the actually missing images are on meta though... 01:02 < carldani> http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gallery_of_user_styles&oldid=1454092 is a working page in the meantime. 01:02 -!- enomil [n=enomil@wikimedia/Enomil] has joined #mediawiki 01:02 < wikibugs> (mod) NoLocalSettings.php sometimes fails to display the MW logo - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21215 (karun) 01:02 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@221.30.73-86.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #mediawiki 01:05 -!- flubub1113 [n=Flubub@dslb-094-217-098-105.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de"] 01:09 < GerardM-> Mike_lifeguard: these gallery images ... did they give any reason ? 01:09 < Mike_lifeguard> Who? 01:09 < GerardM-> you mentioned that it was intentional and obnoxious 01:10 < Mike_lifeguard> Well, there is no image available, so I'm not sure they need a reason. It isn't like they removed images that were good in order to put in ones that were bad 01:11 -!- JC|bbl is now known as JC 01:11 -!- MrZ-man [i=MrZ-man@mediawiki/MrZ-man] has quit ["Read Error: 118 (Connection to cabal server terminated by remote host)"] 01:11 < GerardM-> hmm the combination of intentional and obnoxious means to me that there is a reason you do not like not that it may never have been there 01:13 < GerardM-> but that is ok 01:13 -!- bove [n=bo_sanne@cm-84.208.106.194.getinternet.no] has joined #mediawiki 01:14 < carldani> The move also killed all history, which is not exactly userfriendly. 01:14 < svip> That sounds like a 'bad move'. 01:15 < svip> GET IT?! 01:15 < svip> Seriously though, anyone who knows how to move a page, should be able to keep the story 01:15 -!- Hosiryuhosi [n=Hosiryuh@wikipedia/Hosiryuhosi] has joined #MediaWiki 01:16 < bove> I thought I had it all figured out with the pdfexport extension, but now I see that all 
text is cropped to the paper size. I'm guessing this is because htmldoc will not wrap stuff in 
tags, but how can I overcome this?
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01:32 < malafaya> MediaWiki:Monobook.js. Isn't it applied on pages in the main namespace?
01:34 < Duesentrieb> sure it is. 
01:34 < Duesentrieb> as long as the monobook skin is used.
01:35 < carldani> Mike_lifeguard: Thanks for your help!
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01:35 < Mike_lifeguard> np
01:36 < wikibugs> (NEW) CREDITS file uses wrong transliteration of family name - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21512 trivial; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (karun)
01:37 < wikibugs> (mod) CREDITS file uses wrong transliteration of family name - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21512  (karun)
01:38 < malafaya> Duesentrieb, i'm observing a strange problem at pt.wikt: it seems monobook.js is only read if on a special namespace or editing a page
01:38 < Duesentrieb> might be caching
01:38 < malafaya> i thought so too but other people are observing same problem and old code there also does not appear (maybe never appeared before either)
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01:41 < Duesentrieb> malafaya: there's nothing on that page: http://pt.wiktionary.org/wiki/MediaWiki:monobook.js
01:41 < Duesentrieb> oh wait, case sensitive titles.
01:42 < malafaya> :)
01:42 < svip> Wiktionary, my man.
01:42 < malafaya> Duesentrieb, try looking at the HTML source of say http://pt.wiktionary.org/wiki/Abrantes
01:43 < malafaya> no ref to Monobook.js
01:43 < malafaya> if you edit that page though, the JS code appears in the source
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01:44 < OverlordQ> it's there
01:45 < OverlordQ> 
01:45 < Mike_lifeguard> GerardM-: I didn't quite understand your comments at Requests for new languages/Wiktionary American Sign Language :\
01:47 < Duesentrieb> malafaya: I see it loading fine
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01:48 < malafaya> Duesentrieb, the name is kind of encryped but OverlordQ showed me :)
01:48 < malafaya> i must now see why half of the code is not working on normal pages
01:49 < AryehGregor> . . . how can you write a wiki in sign language?  Videos?
01:49 < malafaya> thanks
01:49 < AryehGregor> Or is there a written form?
01:49 < AryehGregor> I guess there's probably a written form.
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01:53 < flyingparchment> there is, but i wasn't aware it had any use a standalone language
01:54 < cirwin> there's an ascii form that en.wiktionary invented - and I think some others that use crazy 2d unicode shapes 
01:54 < Mike_lifeguard> AryehGregor: There is a written form called SignWriting.
01:54 < Mike_lifeguard> cirwin: they invented their own?
01:54  * Mike_lifeguard barfs
01:54 < cirwin> we couldn't include the real one in page titles as it's not linear
01:55 < Mike_lifeguard> SignWriting is only really used in research contexts, most ASL speakers have never used it, since the language is visuospatial and writing it down is fairly unnatural
01:56 < karun> Sign language seems to vary depending on the country.
01:56 < flyingparchment> that's why it's called american sign language
01:56 < Mike_lifeguard> karun: It does, largely. ASL is for the Americas, plus some 'colonies'
01:57 < karun> so therefore the form of signwriting would need to vary
01:57 < Mike_lifeguard> For example, even though USA and UK share English as a spoken and written language, the USA uses ASL and the UK uses BSL - which are mutually unintelligible
01:57 < Mike_lifeguard> karun: No, the other signed languages are different languages
01:57 < Mike_lifeguard> They would need their own projects
01:57 < Mike_lifeguard> This proposal is specifically about American Sign Language (not signed languages in general)
01:58 < karun> but it could be adapted for other sign languages?
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01:59 < cirwin> karun: I believe the system in use on en.wiktionary could be, I'm not sure of the details of what Mike_lifeguard was talking earlier
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02:01 < karun> is sign writing including as part of unicode
02:01 < CIA-66> greg * r59081 /trunk/extensions/RT/RT_body.php: Allow filtering by custom fields. Redo the way we build queries.
02:02 < Mike_lifeguard> karun: SignWriting can write any signed language, and the larger system can encode any human movement.
02:03 < karun> yes, but can you use unicode for sign writing symbols?
02:03 < karun> or do you need specific fonts for it that are not a part of unicode
02:03 < Mike_lifeguard> It was originally designed to write Danish ballet, then Danish sign language. Only later was it used for ASL - though that is the primary use today.
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02:04 < karun> that does not answer my question about unicode
02:04 < p858snake> most aren't fontable, because one single symbol can mean a whole word
02:04 < Mike_lifeguard> Well those are not mutually exclusive. The characters are in unicode, and implemented by a FLOSS font
02:04 < AryehGregor> karun, sign language is language like any other.  It has its own grammar and syntax and vocabulary and such that's just as complicated as spoken languages, with little to no relation to local spoken languages.
02:04 < cirwin> but words are 2d, so very few things support it
02:04 < karun> that is not what i was asking
02:04 < Mike_lifeguard> p858snake: you have it backwards - many symbols are needed (generally) for one sign
02:05 < karun> i was asking if you can use unicode for it
02:05 < AryehGregor> It's particularly neat because if you get a community of deaf people that doesn't know the local sign language, they spontaneously make up their own.
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02:05 < p858snake> depends
02:05 < AryehGregor> So it's the only time we get to observe the genesis of a new language.
02:05 < karun> as then you dont need a different character encoding
02:05 < AryehGregor> A really new one, anyway.  Creoles are related but not really the same.
02:05 < p858snake> for example in auslan and other devritives you can have have one hand signal to mean thanks, but you can also spell it out
02:06 < Mike_lifeguard> "generally" :)
02:07  * Mike_lifeguard wants to move to Rochester and do an interpreting program :P
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02:09 < p858snake> i should lean sign language again, i still have my book of it around here somewhere, unless mum took it to work
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02:55 < malafaya> is this valid JS: $("searchInput").value  ?
02:55 < malafaya> i get a console error: $ is not defined
02:55 < flyingparchment> malafaya: yes, but only if the function $() is defined
02:55 < flyingparchment> which it probably isn't, given the error
02:55 < malafaya> $ is a function?
02:55 < malafaya> :S
02:55 < malafaya> wow
02:55 < flyingparchment> it is if you define a function called $()
02:56 < flyingparchment> i guess you're expecting JQuery to be loaded, and it's not
02:56 < malafaya> JS keeps surpriseing me
02:56 < flyingparchment> (jquery is a library that defines a function called $(), among other things)
02:58 < malafaya> thanks, i found what was missing
03:03 < AryehGregor> What are JS's rules for the contents of identifier names?
03:03 < AryehGregor> I guess they're lenient enough to allow $ . . .
03:03 < flyingparchment> probably very similar to traditional C
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03:06 < AryehGregor> Most recent languages allow the same as C except maybe plus Unicode, don't they?
03:07 < c3l> how do I delete history? running latest mediawiki
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03:07 < flyingparchment> AryehGregor: C allows unicode
03:07 < AryehGregor> Well, recently, I guess.
03:07 < flyingparchment> no version allows both $ and unicode, though
03:08 < flyingparchment> (since standard C forbids $)
03:09 < flyingparchment> hm, actually C doesn't quite allow Unicode... it allows Unicode escape sequences.
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03:09 < flyingparchment> which seems more than a little pointless, unless the editor is meant to convert it back to characters?
03:11  * AryehGregor finds that btrfs doesn't seem to be mature enough to be fun to use even experimentally -- no deletion of snapshots?
03:13 < AryehGregor> Looks like deduping is on the drawing-board for btrfs too, but they should probably implement stuff like "don't die horribly on ENOSPC" first.  :)
03:13 < flyingparchment> i feel like i should make an anti-linux comment at this point, but i'm too tired
03:13  * AryehGregor is apparently too impatient when it comes to filesystems.
03:13 < AryehGregor> It's okay, you can have a break once in a while.
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03:20 < CIA-66> greg * r59082 /trunk/phase3/includes/search/SearchEngine.php: Grammar
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03:29 < wikibugs> (mod) Server should return a 404 HTTP status code if the page does not exist - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2585  (jidanni)
03:34 < Mike_lifeguard> werdna: toldyaso :|
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07:34 < Sonja> how do you specify the class of a * 
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08:00 < Natalie> Sonja: Do it in HTML.
08:00 < Natalie> There's no way to do with wikimarkup.
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08:12 < Sonja> okay
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08:53 < CIA-66> ialex * r59084 /trunk/phase3/CREDITS: Fix Karun Dambietz's name spelling in CREDITS
08:53 < wikibugs> (FIXED) CREDITS file uses wrong transliteration of family name - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21512  +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
08:56 < CIA-66> rotem * r59085 /trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesHe.php: Localization update.
09:20 < wikibugs> (mod) OOM on getting metadata for some OGG files (metadata reading hits memory_limit) - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19476  (federicoleva)
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10:14 < wikibugs> (NEW) Hiding categories from Category pages - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21515 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Categories; (david)
10:16 < wikibugs> (mod) Hiding categories from Category pages - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21515  (david)
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10:24 < wikibugs> (DUP) Hiding categories from Category pages - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21515  +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
10:24 < wikibugs> (mod) Category is shown in sub-category pages in spite of __HIDDENCAT__. - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15550  +comment (alex.emsenhuber)
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10:30 < machrider> i'm having a hard time getting mediawiki to find its required include files...
10:30 < machrider> DefaultSettings.php includes SiteConfiguration.php
10:31 < machrider> and even though /usr/share/mediawiki and /usr/share/mediawiki/includes are on the include path, it fails
10:32 < machrider> http://pastie.org/699434
10:34 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59087 /trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 
10:34 < CIA-66> * L10n: localisation updates from translatewiki.net
10:34 < CIA-66> * RELEASE-NOTES: line length to max. 80 and trailing whitespace removed
10:34 < machrider> nvm, i think $IP was getting set wrong in LocalSettings.php
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10:39 < CIA-66> ialex * r59088 /trunk/phase3/CREDITS: Follow-up r59086: forgot Happy-melon
10:40 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59089 /trunk/extensions/cldr/LocalNamesEn.php: Add Romagnol
10:40 < MaxSem> machrider, that's why we don't recomment using packages - they're always slightly screwed up
10:42 < machrider> MaxSem: yeah, i'm having lots of fun
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10:48 < machrider> woot.. upgrade worked
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11:10 < wikibugs> (mod) NoLocalSettings.php sometimes fails to display the MW logo - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21215  -need-review ; +comment (maxsem.wiki)
11:12 < wikibugs> (mod) NoLocalSettings.php doesn't tolerate rewrite rules - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21215  summary; +comment (maxsem.wiki)
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11:22 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59090 /trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Update capitalisation
11:22 < wikibugs> (mod) NoLocalSettings.php doesn't tolerate rewrite rules - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21215  (karun)
11:23 < wikibugs> (mod) NoLocalSettings.php doesn't tolerate rewrite rules - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21215   +need-review (karun)
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11:27 < wikibugs> (mod) NoLocalSettings.php doesn't tolerate rewrite rules - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21215  +comment (karun)
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11:32 < wikibugs> (mod) NoLocalSettings.php doesn't tolerate rewrite rules - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21215  (maxsem.wiki)
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11:36 < wikibugs> (INVALID) NoLocalSettings.php doesn't tolerate rewrite rules - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21215  (karun)
11:38 < MaxSem> WTF? karun, don't climb up the Reichstag dressed as Spiderman to prove a point
11:40 < wikibugs> (REOPENED) NoLocalSettings.php doesn't tolerate rewrite rules - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21215  -need-review ; +comment (maxsem.wiki)
11:43 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59091 /branches/REL1_15/phase3/languages/messages/ (252 files): 
11:43 < CIA-66> Localisation updates from translatewiki.net
11:43 < CIA-66> * Backport compatible translations to REL1_15
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12:14 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59092 /branches/REL1_14/phase3/languages/messages/ (247 files): 
12:14 < CIA-66> Localisation updates from translatewiki.net
12:14 < CIA-66> * Backport compatible translations to REL1_14
12:15 < siebrand> right. That's one of the tougher jobs out of the way :)
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12:28 < wikibugs> (NEW) Enable subpages in the Template namespace in Spanish Wikibooks - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21516 normal; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (dferg-wiki)
12:28 < sDrewth> Has there been thoughts to when the next code update may be?
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12:56 < ialex> sDrewth: not soon :)
12:57 < sDrewth> k
12:57 < sDrewth> damn
12:57 < sDrewth> the break on Proofread Page is a bloody nuisance
12:57 < sDrewth> thx
12:57  * sDrewth pedals harder
13:08 < CIA-66> vrandezo * r59093 /trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/SMW_ParserExtensions.php: updated signature of deprecated function (it shouldnt throw warnings)
13:09 < sDrewth> I'd sleep with someone, however, that is more likely to hinder my case o_O
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13:50 < wikibugs> (NEW) Exclamation mark system in the recent changes - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21517 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: AbuseFilter; (hubert.bossot)
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13:55 < wikibugs> (mod) Exclamation mark system in the recent changes - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21517   +shell (sam)
13:56 < Reedy> ^ still not quite sure what he's after
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13:58 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59095 /branches/REL1_15/phase3/languages/messages/ (92 files): Follow-up to r59091: fix incompatible 'imagemaxsize' (revert where present, remove where no previous version was present)
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13:59 < Alphos> Reedy : the ! and abusefilter are not related in any way, are they ?
13:59 < Reedy> I was thinking that
13:59 < Reedy> Isn't that revision patrolling?
13:59 < Alphos> if they are related i could see what he is asking
13:59 < wikibugs> (mod) Exclamation mark system in the recent changes - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21517  (sam)
13:59 < Alphos> that's what i thought too
13:59 < wikibugs> (mod) Enable subpages in the Template namespace in Spanish Wikibooks - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21516   +shell (sam)
13:59 < Reedy> /even flagged revisions? :/
13:59 < Alphos> nope, not sure it's the flagged revs
14:00 < Reedy> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Patrolled_edits
14:01 < Alphos> yup, that's more likely
14:01 < Alphos> oh, i now remember
14:01 < Reedy> hmm?
14:01 < Alphos> it's the very unuseful link i css-masked :D
14:01 < Reedy> lol
14:01 < Alphos> the one you click on when you've reached teh last revision of a history
14:02 < Alphos> (even if it's clearly a vandalism...)
14:02 < Reedy> lol
14:02 < Reedy> "Enable patrolled edits on the French wiktionary"
14:03 < wikibugs> (mod) Enable patrolled edits on the French wiktionary - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21517  summary; +comment (sam)
14:04 < Alphos> btw
14:05 < Alphos> 500 contribs (not including bot edits) reach yesterday midnight on the french wiktionary :/
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14:05 < Alphos> that's hardly something that can take hundreds of hours :D http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Gribeco#Wiktionnaire_en_d.C3.A9tresse
14:06 < Alphos>     Le probl`eme n'est pas r'egl'e, il s'agit de faire gagner des centaines d'heures par semaine aux contributeurs Wikim'edia qui patrouille sur le Wiktionnaire. JackPotte (d) 20 octobre 2009 `a 16:24 (CEST) ("problem not solved, it's about not losing hundreds of hours per week to wikimedia contributors patrolling on the wiktionary")
14:06 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59096 /branches/REL1_14/phase3/languages/messages/ (91 files): Follow-up to r59092: fix incompatible 'imagemaxsize' (revert where present, remove where no previous version was present)
14:06 < Alphos> and wth is a "wikimedia contributor" ?
14:07 < Reedy> no idea
14:08 < wikibugs> (mod) Enable patrolled edits on the French wiktionary - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21517  (hubert.bossot)
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14:59 < CIA-66> raymond * r59098 /trunk/extensions/GlobalBlocking/ (5 files): 
14:59 < CIA-66> Add a subtitle navigation for all related special pages.
14:59 < CIA-66> Show links to users with sufficient rights only
14:59 < CIA-66> The former links on Special:GlobalBlockList were shown to all users.
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15:27 < rask|> where can i download the new vector skin?
15:29 < Raymond_> rask|: it is integrated in MediaWiki 1.16alpha
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15:34 < rask|> Raymond_: thanks, is it compatible with the 1.15.1-release? 
15:35 < rask|> or would i have to upgrade mediawiki to 1.16?
15:39 < rask|> heck - i might aswell upgrade ;)
15:39 < OuKB> most likely, it's not compatible. upgrading to alpha is not recommended, since it may be unstable
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15:39 < rask|> i'll give it a try on my dev-server
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15:44 < Raymond_> rask|: you have to upgrade to 1.16alpha. try the wmf-deployment branch in SVN
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15:57 < Locos__epraix> What do you think of google closure (http://code.google.com/closure/)?
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16:12 < wikibugs> (DUP) show info, when cannot visit a private log/log is unknown - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21519  +comment (raimond.spekking)
16:13 < wikibugs> (mod) Special:Log/suppress needs better error handling - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17881  +comment (raimond.spekking)
16:13 < wikibugs> (NEW) Preprocessor_DOM.php: hardcoded english - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21521 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (umherirrender_de.wp)
16:19 < wikibugs> (mod) Server should return a 404 HTTP status code if the page does not exist - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2585  (Platonides)
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17:07 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Suggenstion for OpenID i18n in Korean scripts - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21525  +comment (raimond.spekking)
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17:48 < wikibugs> (mod) Suggenstion for OpenID i18n in Korean scripts - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21525   +i18n (siebrand)
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18:03 < wikibugs> (mod) missing logo on create protected page, but only for 'de' and IE - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21522  +comment (Platonides)
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18:12 < LordQuackstar> I'm running into multiple issues setting up my wiki. It seems that that alot of the guides are broken. After finnaly getting the changed directories to work, mediawiki still won't use short url's in its links and now it won't read my logo path. Here's a settings dump: http://pastebin.com/d5c812c21
18:12 < LordQuackstar> (and yes i'm using ctrl+f5 to make sure its not pulling from cache,.
18:13 < LordQuackstar> I'm starting to get really frustrated with the complications in getting this to work correctly
18:13 < CIA-66> root * r59104 /trunk/debs/wikimedia-task-dns-auth/ (12 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed)
18:13 < CIA-66> wikimedia-task-dns-auth (0.11) hardy; urgency=low
18:13 < CIA-66> * Refactored authdns-update into separate scripts
18:13 < CIA-66> * Removed directory scenarios/yaseo-down
18:13 < CIA-66> * Renamed directory knams-down to esams-down
18:13 < CIA-66> * Changed zwinger into fenari in /etc/default/wikimedia-task-dns-auth
18:13 < CIA-66> * Depend on pnds > 2.9.22
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18:16 < MaxSem> logo can sufficiently be "/mediawiki/wiki_logo.png"
18:18 < LordQuackstar> do i use the vanity path or the real path?
18:18 < MaxSem> but it lies in the different directory, so "/wiki/wiki_logo.png"???
18:18 < MaxSem> yes, it lies at http://evilxproductions.net/wiki/wiki_logo.png
18:18 < LordQuackstar> thought that would take longer, neither work
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18:19 < LordQuackstar> media wiki is in /mediawiki but users use /wiki
18:19 < LordQuackstar> i'm starting to wonder if MW is even using localsettings.php since changes don't seem to do anything...
18:20 < MaxSem> you're editing teh wrong file?
18:20 < LordQuackstar> mediawiki/config/localsettings.php
18:20 < MaxSem> nooooooooooooooooooo
18:20 < MaxSem> remove config from that path
18:20 < LordQuackstar> WHAT?>!?!?!?!?!?!
18:21 < CIA-66> dale * r59105 /trunk/phase3/js2/ (11 files in 8 dirs): 
18:21 < CIA-66> * some sequence render fixes
18:21 < CIA-66> * some IE regression fixes and skin compatibility update
18:21 < CIA-66> * fixed showShare for IE kskin
18:21  * LordQuackstar bangs head on table
18:21 < MaxSem> you should have moved it from config, not copied
18:22 < LordQuackstar> can i delete the one in the config folder?
18:22 < MaxSem> yes
18:23 < LordQuackstar> now it can't find /wiki/Main_page... thought i fixed that
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18:25 < MaxSem> you're mixing up script path with article path
18:25 < MaxSem> script path is where index.php resides
18:25  * LordQuackstar stare's at fully working page
18:25 < MaxSem> article path is where those pretty URLs lie
18:25 < LordQuackstar> how on earth did 4 hours in here and staring at code did i miss that
18:26 < LordQuackstar> thanks for the help
18:26 < MaxSem> hehe)
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21:06 < Starspy> can anyone out there help me with a problem?
21:08 < AryehGregor> !ask | Starspy 
21:08 < mwbot> Starspy: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. See also: !gethelp
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21:35 < Starspy> Is it possible to set up a message board/forum without any extensions?
21:37 < OverlordQ> I'm sure you could use a wiki as a message board but why not use something that was designed for it?
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21:38 < Starspy> ill give you an example of what I want...
21:38 < Starspy> something like this:
21:38 < Starspy> http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Village_Dump
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21:40 < Duesentrieb> Starspy: most of it is just templates and manual formatting
21:40 < MaxSem> it's Extension:DPLForum
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21:40 < Duesentrieb> "add new topic" uses an extension (addpage, i think)
21:40 < OverlordQ> that's a extension
21:40 < Duesentrieb> MaxSem: oh it is?
21:40 < MaxSem> http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Version
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21:41 < MaxSem> http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Village_Dump&action=edit
21:41 < Duesentrieb> oh i see, Template:Forumpages isn't maintained manually. 
21:41 < Duesentrieb> well then :)
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21:41 < MaxSem> 
21:41 < MaxSem> namespace=Uncyclopedia
21:41 < MaxSem> category=Pee Review
21:41 < Duesentrieb> liquid threads would also work - once they work :)
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21:43 < Starspy> ok
21:44 < Starspy> because im an admin over on my site, and the creator who has acess to the server doesnt even have the time to go in and add extensions because he is swamped with work, so i wanted to know if you could do it without extensions
21:45 < MaxSem> only the sucksy way, like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VP
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21:47 < Starspy> kk, and can you identify what extension is used here? http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Village_Dump
21:47 < MaxSem> ^^^^^^^
21:47 < Starspy> ?
21:47 < roberthl> 20:40:36 < MaxSem> it's Extension:DPLForum
21:47 < Starspy> ah
21:48 < Starspy> sorry
21:48 < Starspy> haha
21:48 < Starspy> thanks roberth
21:48 < roberthl> ok :)
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22:01 < MaxSem> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Progressbar <--- how typical, XSS again
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22:37 < Piemuffin> hey
22:37 < Piemuffin> i closed this page and lost the name of the extension, so what is the extension that is used on this page?
22:37 < Piemuffin> http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Village_Dump
22:39 < Locos__epraix> anybody
22:39 < Locos__epraix> to take a look here
22:39 < Locos__epraix> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=19586
22:40 < Duesentrieb> Piemuffin: DPLForum, apparently
22:41 < Piemuffin> haha thanks
22:42 < Duesentrieb> Locos__epraix: "Wikipedia and MediaWiki HEAD are already fixed, it's just existing installations of versions up to 1.15.x that need to take action."
22:42 < Duesentrieb> so... not much to do here :)
22:43 < Piemuffin> Duesentrieb: What forum extension would you recommend to use on mediawiki?
22:44 < buzz_> i only know of http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AWC%27s_Forum and then the improved discussion page stuff like liquid threads
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22:45 < buzz_> you can share authentication and just use something like phpbb (and i think mediawiki can authenticate via that). there are other ways. i personally just run another forum separate to the wiki. . i guess liquid threads is the "future" of discussion system on mediawki though
22:46 < Duesentrieb> Piemuffin: liquid threads is probably the most wiki-like. for a "real" forum - no idea :) i hate forums, so i never tried any.
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22:57 < Piemuffin> Duesentrieb: What do you think the essential extensions are?
22:58 < Duesentrieb> parserfunctions, definitly. probably categorytree; then it depends. cite maybe, or gadgets. possibly DPL.
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22:59 < Duesentrieb> really depends on what you want to do with the wiki, how people use it, what kind of content  and interactions you have
22:59 < Duesentrieb> createpage may be useful.
23:00 < Duesentrieb> and/or inputbox
23:00 < Duesentrieb> spmablacklist is pretty good to have. maybe captcha too.
23:00 < Duesentrieb> *shrug*
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23:04 < Piemuffin> Duesentrieb: well the wiki im working on is going to be a hub for tuts and files that have to do with modding the game Sins of a solar empire. Is there any mod that will let me upload text files and just just images?
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23:19 < Duesentrieb> Piemuffin: images are supported per default. you can also allow text files for *upload*, but you wan't be able to show tham in a nice way. they may also trigger filteres aimed at evil scripts.
23:19 < Duesentrieb> text is best simply copied to wiki pages
23:19 < Bryan> I need multiple parsed mediawiki messages in my javascript
23:19 < Bryan> now should I hack something to meta=allmessages to make that possible?
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23:21 < Bryan> could be done... hmm
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