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00:00 < Reedy> yeah
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00:09 < wikibugs> (mod) Toolbar buttons insert text on top in IE - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21492  +comment (amiller)
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00:26 < CIA-66> adam * r59152 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (9 files in 4 dirs): migrating the toc resizing to use jquery ui resizable
00:27 < CIA-66> adam * r59153 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/UsabilityInitiative.hooks.php: Missed a javascriot revision bump on r59152
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00:34 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59154 /trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (16 files): 
00:34 < CIA-66> Localisation updates from translatewiki.net
00:34 < CIA-66> * update special page aliases
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00:42 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59155 /trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (15 files): 
00:42 < CIA-66> Localisation updates from translatewiki.net
00:42 < CIA-66> * update magic word translations
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00:59 < CIA-66> dantman * r59156 /trunk/extensions/Contributors/Contributors.page.php: These two methods are generic enough to be public. Protecting them just stops people from writing skins or other extensions which extend the work this extension has done to calculate contributors.
01:01 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59157 /trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (7 files): 
01:01 < CIA-66> Localisation updates from translatewiki.net
01:01 < CIA-66> * update namespace translations
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01:05 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59158 /trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesTt_cyrl.php: Fix sloppyness from r59157 (duplicate $namespaceAliases and syntax error)
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01:09 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59159 /trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (MessagesTt_latn.php MessagesTyv.php): Fix more sloppyness from r59157 (time for bed)
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01:20 < CIA-66> dantman * r59160 /trunk/extensions/Contributors/Contributors.page.php: 
01:20 < CIA-66> Turn the Contributors' extension's getMainContributors and getContributors methods into static methods that work inside the extension and can be re-used outside of it.
01:20 < CIA-66> Fixes my last commit, the methods weren't actually generic enough.
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01:29 < CIA-66> nimishg * r59161 /trunk/extensions/ContributionReporting/cc-reporting.php: Added cc-reporting stub
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01:37 < wikibugs> (NEW) Russian edition of Planet Wikimedia is not working - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21543 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (Eugene.Zelenko)
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01:42 < Reedy> http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Code/MediaWiki&dir=prev&offset=58411 5457-58454 look funny on chrome. Fine on FF... Bug for here or google?
01:45 < Reedy> the url's aren't broken and wrapped
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01:47 < CIA-66> nimishg * r59162 /trunk/extensions/ContributionReporting/ (cc-reporting.js cc-reporting.php): cc-reporting JS support
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01:49  * Natalie ejaculates on charitwo's face.
01:49 < werdna> dude...
01:50 < Natalie> Silence is consent.
01:50 < werdna> be a little less freaky, kthx
01:50 < wikibugs> (NEW) URLs not wrapped in commit summary in Chrome 4 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21544 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: CodeReview; (sam)
01:51 < Natalie> There's a Chrome 4 already? Mac is still in beta. 
01:51 < Reedy> Dev build
01:51 < Reedy> windows
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01:51 < Natalie> That's mighty fast, eh.
01:52 < wikibugs> (mod) URLs not wrapped in commit summary in Chrome 4 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21544  (sam)
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01:53 < Reedy> Also, why in chrome 4, on monobook, does the left hand menu stuff appear under the page text area?
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01:59 < Reedy> blah
01:59 < wikibugs> (NEW) Left hand navigation menu shows under article text on monobook skin on Google Chrome 4 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21545 normal; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (sam)
01:59 < Reedy> someone will wontfix it for me, i'm sure
01:59 < wikibugs> (mod) Russian edition of Planet Wikimedia is not working - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21543  enhancement->normal (sam)
02:00 < Natalie> Reedy: Is recentchangeslinked available via the API?
02:01 < Reedy> recentchangeslinked?
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02:02 < Rjd0060> That useless special page that nobody uses.
02:02 < Reedy> except Natalie
02:03 < Reedy> related canges?
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02:04 < Natalie> Yes.
02:04 < Reedy> Natalie, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14869
02:04 < Reedy> no
02:04 < Natalie> Someone is asking on VP/T.
02:04 < Natalie> Ah, thx.
02:04 < Reedy> :)
02:04 < Natalie> It counts as a query-based Special page? Laaaame.
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02:08 < CIA-66> tparscal * r59163 /trunk/extensions/ContributionReporting/ContributionReporting.php: Added 2009 fundraiser to default configuration.
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02:14 < CIA-66> tomasz * r59164 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/ContributionReporting/ (5 files): picking up to r59163
02:18 < CIA-66> tparscal * r59165 /trunk/extensions/ContributionReporting/ContributionStatistics_body.php: Changed 30 to 35 to match donation for for 2009 fundraiser.
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02:52 < CIA-66> aaron * r59166 /trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.hooks.php: bug 21528 Added missing article existence check for protect UI
02:53 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Changing stability settings for nonexistant pages doesn't make sense - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21528  +comment (JSchulz_4587)
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03:27 < wikibugs> (NEW) In outputs from an ask query, a way to perform the pipe trick on links would be most welcome - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21546 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (morgon.kanter)
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04:54 < wikibugs> (mod) Opt-in user flow takes user to log out and opt-out - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21509  (nkomura)
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04:56 < wikibugs> (mod) Welcome Beta page has opt-out survey - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21508  (nkomura)
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06:10 < BradLee> Hi. 
06:10 < BradLee> For some reason IE7 messes up the heading on the search box in the portlet on my wiki :(
06:10 < BradLee> I can't fix it though, despite using !important in the CSS. 
06:10 < BradLee> You can see what I'm describing here: http://test.smileypedia.org
06:12 < BradLee> It looks fine in IE8 and FF3/3.5 though
06:12 < BradLee> Would be really grateful if someone could take a look...
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06:15 < wikibugs> (NEW) A way to show only the sections a user is interested in - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21547 enhancement; Normal; Wiktionary tools: General; (hippytrail)
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06:31 < wikibugs> (mod) A way to show only the few languages a user is interested in - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11998  (hippytrail)
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09:04 < madsj> hi; I'm using the include-extension to include an html file, but mediawiki adds a bunch of pre-tags (yes, nopre is in the tag); how can I get rid of this ?
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10:00 < aleksandrit> why, when i try to see Special:RecentChanges&limit=500 in my own wiki, i can't see edits earlier than one week ago? them fewer than 500...
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10:13 < Raymond_> aleksandrit: check $wgRCMaxAge in your config. probably the value is 7 days
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10:18 < aleksandrit> Raymond_, hm, there isn't such parameter in my LocalSettings.php
10:19 < Raymond_> aleksandrit: have a look at DefaultSettings.php. 
10:19 < Raymond_> aleksandrit: LocalSettings.php overwrites settings from DefaultSettings.pgp
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10:22 < aleksandrit> Raymond_, is it in the same directory? i don't see such file at all...
10:24 < Raymond_> aleksandrit: sorry. it is in the /includes dir
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10:26 < aleksandrit> Raymond_, it's really "$wgRCMaxAge = 7 * 24 * 3600;". okay, thank you :) 
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10:27 < Raymond_> aleksandrit: yep. 7 days. you can change it in LocalSettings but if will have effect only for the future
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10:33 < wikibugs> (NEW) Disabling triggers in PostgreSQL can only be done by super user - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21548 normal; Normal; mwdumper: general; (wikipedia)
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10:57 < Ipergorilla> hi guys
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10:58 < Ipergorilla> how come the mediawiki namespace doesn't worn in my wiki? http://www.pcentral.it/wiki
10:59 < Ipergorilla> *doesn't ork
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11:07 < Alphos> what do you mean, Ipergorilla ?
11:08 < Ipergorilla> the things written, for example, in Mediawiki:main.css
11:08 < Ipergorilla> are not effective
11:09 < Ipergorilla> oops, main.css doesn't exist, i menat. common.css, common,js etc.
11:09 < Ipergorilla> *meant
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11:15 < Alphos> give me an example, Ipergorilla
11:16 < Ipergorilla> http://www.pcentral.it/wiki/MediaWiki:Monobook.css
11:17 < Alphos> great
11:17 < Ipergorilla> here there's some code to change the appearence of the tabs on top
11:17 < Alphos> now give me an EXAMPLE
11:17 < Ipergorilla> but it doesn't worl
11:17 < Ipergorilla> *work
11:17 < Ipergorilla> THAT's the example :P
11:19 < Alphos> looks like the <pre> tags mess everything up
11:20 < Ipergorilla> ok so i'll try to strip them
11:21 < Ipergorilla> that's strange because that page is basically the copycat of this other page: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Monobook.css
11:22 < Ipergorilla> wich works justa fine
11:22 < Ipergorilla> it stopped working since we changes the hosting
11:25 < Alphos> .sc { font-variant: small-caps } in common.css
11:26 < Alphos> (should end with a semicolon ';')
11:26 < wikibugs> (NEW) Make constraints DEFERRABLE in postgresql - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21549 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Database; (wikipedia)
11:27 < wikibugs> (mod) Disabling triggers in PostgreSQL can only be done by super user - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21548  (wikipedia)
11:28 < wikibugs> (mod) Disabling triggers in PostgreSQL can only be done by super user - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21548  (wikipedia)
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11:29 < freakolowsky> lo ladies
11:29  * Alphos is not a lady, and doesn't salute back freakolowsky :p
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11:35 < madsj> can anyone please tell me how to avoid getting your html file corrupted with pre-tags when using http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Include 
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11:35 < madsj> I'm using nopre, but the pre-tags are put inbetween the html-tags
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11:58 < wikibugs> (NEW) New Page Create / Edit - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21550 blocker; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (wikibugs)
12:05 < CIA-66> werdna * r59169 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/lqt.js: Fix LiquidThreads IE7 compatibility. There is still a bug, but I cannot find this one :)
12:16 < Duesentrieb> madsj: use the HTMLets extension instead.
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12:48 < zocky> if I set $wgMaxTocLevel to 0,will toc disappear from the html?
12:51 < zocky> it will, it seems
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12:59 < Danwe> hi
13:01 < Danwe> what would I look for If I want all pages in cat X which had NO change since date Y? "page.page_touched" or is this not save because this is modified not only when the page content changes? It sounds to me like this attribute is getting changes as well after template changes for templates which this page uses...
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13:16 < Danwe> no ideas?
13:17 < wikibugs> (WFM) New Page Create / Edit - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21550  +comment (roan.kattouw)
13:23 < Danwe> ok I guess revission.rev_timestamp would be better
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13:44 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Insert Table: Cannot insert tables in IE - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20900  +comment (roan.kattouw)
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14:17 < kevindank> Hello come someone help me with a few css issues,  1.  I would like my content area to extend atleast as far as my sidebar
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14:18 < kevindank> 2.  My search bar is way off to the right and i want it at a fixed position
14:18 < kevindank> Thank you
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15:02 < wolog> hello, I would like to rename a wiki installation (change the corp name used in namespace). It is possible, and and does a maintenance script/procedure already exists ? (unable to find it, but maybe I'not using good keywords)
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15:05 < wolog> just found it: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Change_the_name_of_the_wiki sorry for the noise
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15:12 < avinoamr> Hey fellas, quick question. I have a very minor change I want to submit to MW (adding a configuration directive for the Squid integration). What's the best approach to submit it? Can I just open a bug, assigned to myself, and solve it with the attached files?
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15:14 < CIA-66> jeroendedauw * r59170 /trunk/extensions/Maps/ (12 files in 8 dirs): Changes for 0.5. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Maps/Future#Maps_0.5
15:15 < CIA-66> jeroendedauw * r59171 /trunk/extensions/SemanticMaps/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Changes for 0.5. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Maps/Future#Semantic_Maps_0.5
15:15 < Duesentrieb> avinoamr: create a bug, attach a patch, and tag it with "patch, needs-review". don't resolve it. no one looks at resolved bugs.
15:15 < avinoamr> Duesentrieb: will do. thanks.
15:15 < Duesentrieb> a aptch is a proposal, not a resolution
15:20 < kevindank> Any idea how i can make Main content area bind to left sidebar so that main is the same hieght is the sidebar at least?
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15:33 < CIA-66> dale * r59172 /trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (8 files in 4 dirs): 
15:33 < CIA-66> * added sequence render example
15:33 < CIA-66> * added kdp kaltrua player fallback support
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15:41 < avinoamr> Duesentrieb: sorry to nag with novice questions, I wanna make sure I'm doing it right. I should attach a different patch file for each file I've changed, or is it possible to pack all of my changes (to 2 different files) into one patch file?
15:45 < Duesentrieb> avinoamr: you should use svn to make the patch
15:45 < Duesentrieb> svn diff > my.patch
15:45 < avinoamr> perfect :)
15:45 < Duesentrieb> that gives you a single patch for all changes
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15:46 < wikibugs> (mod) Enable patrolled edits on the French wiktionary - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21517  (hubert.bossot)
15:50  * kevindank pulls hair out
15:54 < wikibugs> (NEW) Allow configuring the Squid response chars limit on purges - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21551 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (avinoamr)
15:54 < avinoamr> That's mine :)
15:56 < kevindank> Is anyone good with css?
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16:12 < kevindank> Okay got the main content area to align with the nav bars thats good, other thing is search is far off to the left when i moved it to a custom position,  however i want it to stay on the same spot instead of moving based on monitor size
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16:24 < kevindank> How Can i take the searchbar out of the Sidebar and make it its own entity?
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16:43 < ludvig> How can I make the title of the searchresult page to be 'serarchresults' not 'search' ? I see this on wikipedia and other wikis , but can not figure out how to do this?
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16:56 < CIA-66> adam * r59173 /trunk/phase3/skins/vector/experiments/babaco-colors-a.css: experminental css changes for sandbox.5
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17:18 < microm> my infoboxes don't not float to the right and I don't understand why. I imported all the Template:Infobox templates to my wiki, and copied the Common.css and Monobook.css to my wiki too. What I am missing?
17:19 < LauraHale> The extensions?
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17:26 < Mike_lifeguard> How/why do we accept JPEG if it isn't a free file format?
17:30 < AryehGregor> Who says it's not a free file format?
17:30 < AryehGregor> It's an ISO standard.
17:31 < AryehGregor> With no relevant patents that I've ever heard of.
17:31 < MaxSem> the standard it old enough anyway, all the patents should be expired anyway
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17:34 < CIA-66> dale * r59174 /trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (6 files in 3 dirs): 
17:34 < CIA-66> * some kplayer updates
17:34 < CIA-66> * fix to the menu
17:36 < Mike_lifeguard> AryehGregor, MaxSem: Adam claimed it wasn't a free file format *shrug*
17:37 < Mike_lifeguard> I assume you know better than him :D
17:37 < Mike_lifeguard> Do we know what image format is used in Collection-generated PDFs?
17:37 < MaxSem> well, the spec itself costs some $
17:38 < MaxSem> just like other ISO standards
17:38 < AryehGregor> Right, the spec probably isn't free, but you can distribute JPEGs freely.
17:38 < AryehGregor> And create and process them freely.
17:38 < AryehGregor> That's what counts.
17:38 < flyingparchment> who is "Adam"?
17:39 < AryehGregor> I've seen some commits recently by an adam related to usability.
17:40 < MaxSem> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG#Patent_issues
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17:40 < MaxSem> shortly: of course, there were some patent trolls. all were repealed
17:40 < Mike_lifeguard> Not the same adam
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17:46 < Vyznev> speaking of file formats... how the fsck did someone manage to upload a Flash file to Commons with an .ogg suffix?
17:46 < Vyznev> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ceshiwenjian090728.ogg
17:46 < Vyznev> I thought we were filtering out stuff like that, but if so apparently it's not working :(
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17:51 < Mike_lifeguard> Vyznev: And the mime type was correctly determined :\
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17:57 < microm> LauraHale: I do have ParserFunctions installed and in LocalSettings.php
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18:06 < phil123> how can i just simply create a new article in mediawiki? installed it already and im logged in as Admin, now i just cant find how to create a article
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18:08 < MaxSem> phil123, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Contents especially http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Starting_a_new_page
18:09 < microm> my infoboxes don't not float to the right and I don't understand why. I imported all the Template:Infobox templates to my wiki, and copied the Common.css and Monobook.css to my wiki too. I have installed ParserFunctions. What I am missing?
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18:16 < wikibugs> (mod) pre over multiple lines in lists - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1581  (ingo.rohloff)
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18:26 < everton137> hi. I'm trying to install some skins, by just copying the directories I've found of some free skins. I'm adding them to /skins subdirectory, but news skins don't appear at preferences. Should I do something else? Thanks if someone can help
18:26 < CIA-66> maxsem * r59175 /trunk/phase3/maintenance/syntaxChecker.php: syntaxChecker: added option --modified to check only modified or added files within a SVN repo
18:28 < everton137> maybe I have to clean some cache?
18:29 < LauraHale> hm.
18:29 < LauraHale> What did the skin install directions say? :/
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18:34 < shaiss> hello
18:34 < Diamant001> hi
18:35 < shaiss> Just switching over to mediawiki from foswiki
18:35 < Diamant001> was ?
18:35 < everton137> LauraHale, I found an discussion forum just saying I have to add the skin directory at /skins subdirectory
18:35 < shaiss> anyhow, good day for now
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18:36 < kevindank> I need help adding a space between the h2 and the TOC on this page
18:36 < kevindank> http://theinformationbusiness.com/kevin/sneakerbible/index.php?title=SneakerBible:Community_Portal
18:36 < everton137> LauraHale, there is no examplanation at the skin I added. I just tested a skin based on monobook, changing files from skins/monobook directory and it worked 
18:36 < kevindank> any ideas?
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18:36 < Diamant001> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
18:36 < Diamant001> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
18:36 < Diamant001> ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
18:36 < Diamant001> ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
18:37 < AryehGregor> Diamant001, please don't spam.
18:37 < flyingparchment> Diamant001: stop doing that
18:37 < everton137> Diamant001, stop, please
18:37 < Diamant001> versteht die hier jemand ?
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18:38 < kevindank> I am assuming it is soe elements with the h2 that i need to change
18:38 < kevindank> any help would be appreciated
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18:43 < kevindank> do i have to add a padding to the toc or to the h2?
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18:46 < MaxSem> is bugzilla operational atm?
18:46 < MaxSem> rawr
18:48 < werdna> sure
18:48 < Mike_lifeguard> MaxSem: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/bugzilla.wikimedia.org
18:48 < MaxSem> infinite "establishing secure connection" for me
18:49 < MaxSem> "It's not just you! http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org looks down from here."
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18:51 < Mike_lifeguard> yep
18:51 < werdna> isidore responds to ping, not ssh
18:55 < werdna> should be back up
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18:56 < kevindank> Can someone please help with some css?
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19:16 < CIA-66> tparscal * r59176 /trunk/extensions/ContributionReporting/ (FundraiserStatistics.css FundraiserStatistics_body.php): Added CSS for 2009 fundraiser to make the data visible. Also made some adjustments on the bar width and other small CSS issues.
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19:48 < kevindank> what would be easier, moving the searchbox out of the sidebar or just creating a new searchbox in my code?
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19:57 < CIA-66> maxsem * r59177 /trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES maintenance/syntaxChecker.php): 
19:57 < CIA-66> syntaxChecker.php:
19:57 < CIA-66> * Renamed --file to --path and extended its functionality to check entire directoriesof source files
19:57 < CIA-66> * Added option to load file list from a given file
19:57 < CIA-66> * Since this file wasn't mentioned in release notes, rewrote my line about its expansion to cover that script in general
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20:03 < wikibugs> (NEW) error in validate_type_of_multiple_fields (SF_FormUtils) - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21552 major; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticForms; (jack.pond)
20:05 < CIA-66> catrope * r59178 /trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): (bug 21551) Make Squid response limit configurable. Patch by Roi Aminoam
20:05 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Allow configuring the Squid response chars limit on purges - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21551  +comment (roan.kattouw)
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20:10 < avar> werdna: if ($ie7) { $lynx_mode = true; }
20:10 < werdna> eh?
20:10 < werdna> ah, right, I get it
20:10 < werdna> never mind me :P
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20:14 < wikibugs> (mod) Left hand navigation menu shows under article text on monobook skin on Google Chrome 4 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21545  (avarab)
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20:19 < kevindank> Can someone please explain to me how i can fix my freaking search bar
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20:20 < kevindank> http://theinformationbusiness.com/kevin/sneakerbible/index.php?title=Main_Page 
20:20 < kevindank> my page.
20:21 < kevindank> the search bar  at the top moves by itself
20:21 < kevindank> i need it to stay in a set positinio
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20:31 < kevindank> I've tried moving the div up and down in the skin.php file that doesn't work
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20:35 < jdpond> Any rumor on release of 1.16?
20:35 < kevindank> FUCK
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20:36 < AryehGregor> jdpond, no.
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20:38 < jdpond> Thanks AryehGregor - should have chained brion to a pier in rising tide, release concurrent with 1.16!
20:38 < brion> hehehe
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20:38 < brion> i'm pretty swamped with statusnet 0.9 coming release as is :D
20:39 < brion> i believe tim's trying to tidy things up a bit for 1.16 though
20:39 < ThomasV> is there an upcoming release ?
20:39 < jdpond> brion: Still good to hear from you:-D
20:39 < brion> aww
20:39 < ThomasV> awww
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20:42 < brion> GROUP HUG
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20:46 < ThomasV> free hugs!!!
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20:48 < MaxSem> free as in cheese in mousetrap%)
20:50  * werdna hugs brion 
20:51 < brion> whee
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20:52 < apergos> ohhhh
20:52 < apergos> can I get one?
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20:52 < apergos> ha I could give one
20:52  * apergos hugs werd na and bri on
20:53 < kevindank> Okay, ill pay someone to help me with this search issue
20:53 < kevindank> im sure its a relatively easy fix, its like the last thing i have to do
20:53 < ThomasV> how much ?
20:53 < kevindank> i cannot figure it out.
20:53 < brion> ./hug.sh *
20:53 < kevindank> not much.
20:53 < wikibugs> (mod) Make constraints DEFERRABLE in postgresql - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21549   +postgresql (maxsem.wiki)
20:54 < faceface> hi, I'm seeing the 'Your system has a combination of PHP and libxml2 versions which is buggy' error, but I have versions of PHP 5.2.9 or later and libxml2 2.7.3 or later!
20:54 < faceface> what is going wrong?
20:55 < Mike_lifeguard> brion: but I want a personalized hug :P
20:55 < CIA-66> nojhan * r59179 /trunk/tools/planet/fr/config.ini: + blog Otourly
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20:56 < brion> for x in *; do ./hug.sh "hey $x so good to see you"; done
20:56 < brion> faceface: well you've probably got something funky... what kinda system?
20:57 < Mike_lifeguard> haha, excellent :)
20:57 < faceface> its an x86_64 fc10
20:57 < kevindank> now my search bar isnt displaying at all...
20:57 < faceface> just hitting svn update in REL-15
20:57 < faceface> see if it helps
20:58 < faceface> lots of MWs on this box, but not REL-15
21:00 < faceface> Updated to revision 59179.
21:00 < faceface> 2.6.27.38-170.2.113.fc10.x86_64
21:00 < faceface> same error... cause hidden data corruption in MediaWiki and other web apps. Upgrade
21:01 < faceface> rpm -q php -> php-5.2.9-2.fc10.x86_64
21:01 < faceface> rpm -q libxml2 -> libxml2-2.7.6-1.fc10.x86_64
21:02 < faceface> perhaps I just need to restart apache...
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21:09 < kevindank> No one wants to help
21:09 < kevindank> ?
21:10 < faceface> kevindank: wsup?
21:11 < faceface> you didn't state your problem
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21:12 < faceface> OK, stopped and restarted apahce, but still seeing "Your system has a combination of..."
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21:16 < faceface> wow... this system is really borked
21:16 < faceface> its full of corrupted RPM installs, including modphp
21:16 < kevindank> Alright my problem is this....
21:16 < faceface> I just cleaned the php / apache rpms and restarted apache, getting the installer now (finally) ;-)
21:16 < kevindank> The Search bar here: http://theinformationbusiness.com/kevin/sneakerbible/index.php?title=SneakerBible:Community_Portal   
21:17 < kevindank> it  does not stay with the layout
21:17 < faceface> I can't see it
21:17 < CIA-66> raymond * r59180 /trunk/ (79 files in 57 dirs): Localisation updates for core and extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-11-17 19:30 UTC)
21:17 < kevindank> it is supposed to end at the end of the brands bar
21:18 < kevindank> however  if the screen size is to small it doesnt stay with it etc...
21:18 < kevindank> it moves
21:18 < faceface> oh ... I see it
21:18 < faceface> try asking in #css?
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21:22 < faceface> kevindank: for that wiki you may consider looking at semantic mediawiki
21:22 < faceface> to store the information about shoes as a queryable 'database'
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21:24 < MaxSem> !hss
21:24 < mwbot> http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/576/hesaidsemanticga2.jpg
21:25 < wikibugs> (NEW) Remove LiquidThreads customisation of recentchanges - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21553 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (agarrett)
21:27 < faceface> hmmm... get this... "View (newer 48 &#32;o&#32; older 48) (Show new files starting from 22:25, 17 November 2009)"
21:28 < faceface> MaxSem: that never gets old ;-)
21:28 < faceface> so... when will you roll that out on wp?
21:29 < MaxSem> what?
21:29 < faceface> SMW
21:29 < wikibugs> (NEW) Missing second-level replies in thread permalink view - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21554 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (agarrett)
21:29 < MaxSem> no such plans
21:29 < faceface> do it
21:30 < MaxSem> buy wikipedia a couple hundred new servers, that may seed it up
21:30 < MaxSem> *speed
21:31 < faceface> get 100 devs to see teh power ;-)
21:31 < MaxSem> nobody knows how much load it will bring on sites of this size
21:31 < faceface> yeah, currently that is the major issue, but I don't think it should be a show stopper
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21:32 < faceface> I'm sure the original mediawiki wouldn't have worked for wp either...
21:32 < faceface> people are going via dbpedia, and really it should just be wp
21:33 < MaxSem> how much original? phase 1? UseMod?
21:33 < faceface> I'm not that much of an expert on the history
21:34 < faceface> but I'm guessing it has been improved many many times as wp grew
21:34 < faceface> performance wise 
21:34 < faceface> clearly its improved :-)
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21:47 < CIA-66> werdna * r59181 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/LiquidThreads_alpha/ (8 files in 5 dirs): Merge LiquidThreads alpha to trunk state
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21:52 < CIA-66> ialex * r59182 /trunk/phase3/docs/hooks.txt: 
21:52 < CIA-66> * removed $this in parameters list since it's a reserved word
21:52 < CIA-66> * consistency in parameter descriptions
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21:52 < kevindanko> Okay...
21:53 < kevindanko> so i just deleted my style.css and its still showing up
21:53 < kevindanko> how do i like upgrade mediawiki to show the change?
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21:54 < scoobyrico> in the hook ArticleSave, is there a place where I can get the current lang code?  I been digging in Title and Article and didn't see one.  
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21:56 < MaxSem> !wg Lang | scoobyrico
21:56 < mwbot> scoobyrico: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgLang
21:56 < MaxSem> also $wgContLang
21:56 < scoobyrico> thanks!!
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22:02 < kevindanko> is there like an upgrade.php
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22:02 < RoanKattouw> kevindanko: There is update.php which has to be run after a software upgrade
22:03 < kevindanko> can i run that from the web?
22:03 < jcw> Good day.  Are there any scripts that allow a specific page to be create or updated from the command line?
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22:06 < MaxSem> jcw, maintenance/edit.php
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22:08 < faceface> kevindanko: its a browser issue
22:08 < faceface> get some webdev tools 
22:09 < Natalie> kevindanko: No, it must be run from the command line.
22:10 < jcw> MaxSem,  thanks!
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22:44 < scoobyrico> what would cause a wiki instance to not show the Special:SpecialPages page?  that is if the other pages are showing up?
22:44 < RoanKattouw> scoobyrico: Is it showing a blank page?
22:44 < scoobyrico> I was looking to see if there was a setting in the LocalSettings.php but I didn't see one
22:44 < scoobyrico> RoanKattow, yes, a blank page
22:45 < OverlordQ> check your error log, turn on debugging, etc
22:45 < RoanKattouw> !blankpage | scoobyrico 
22:45 < mwbot> scoobyrico: A blank page usually indicates a fatal PHP error. For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_debug>.
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22:48 < scoobyrico> sorry, got to looking and forgot to say thank you for the suggestions
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23:01 < CIA-66> nimishg * r59183 /trunk/extensions/ContributionReporting/cc-reporting.php: cc-reporting bordering functional now
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23:04 < wikibugs> (mod) Enable patrolled edits on the French wiktionary - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21517  (hubert.bossot)
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23:05 < wikibugs> (mod) Enable patrolled edits on the French wiktionary - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21517  (sam)
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23:10 < c3l> whats the maintenance script for rebuilding skin?
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23:14 < OverlordQ> rebuilding the skin?
23:15 < c3l> OverlordQ, yeah, well I changed the skin, and I remember you're supposed to run a script to, well im not too sure about what it exactly does, but it was needed. and I believ its needed now when I changed again, eg the navbox is dislocated
23:16 < c3l> im talking about default skin
23:16 < OverlordQ> not a clue sorry, only thing I can think of is clearing the cache :)
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23:26 < wikibugs> (mod) Advanced toolbar doesn't show in Safari 3 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21486  summary; +comment (roan.kattouw)
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23:29 < CIA-66> nimishg * r59184 /trunk/extensions/ContributionReporting/ (cc-reporting.js cc-reporting.php): comments
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23:34 < wikibugs> (mod) Search and Replace: regexes not treated as multiline - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21343  (roan.kattouw)
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23:42 < p858snake> OverlordQ: for feature refernece i think he might be talking about the user options one if he changed the skin completely
23:42 < p858snake> but most liley cache
23:43 < OverlordQ> user options whatsit?
23:43 < werdna> feature reference?
23:43 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Regression in HTML normalization in 1.6 (unclosed <li>) - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5497  +comment (mah)
23:46 < wikibugs> (REOPENED) Expose average lag ("avglag") a well as maxlag - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20554  +comment (tstarling)
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23:51 < wikibugs> (mod) Expose average lag ("avglag") a well as maxlag - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20554  +comment (agarrett)
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23:53 < wikibugs> (mod) Expose average lag ("avglag") a well as maxlag - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20554  (sam)
23:53 < wikibugs> (mod) Expose average lag ("avglag") a well as maxlag - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20554  (roan.kattouw)
23:55 < wikibugs> (mod) Expose average lag ("avglag") a well as maxlag - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20554  (agarrett)
23:58 < wikibugs> (mod) Expose average lag ("avglag") a well as maxlag - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20554  (tstarling)
23:58 < Reedy> RoanKattouw, funny how things get attention *after* commit ;)
23:58 < RoanKattouw> Yaeh
23:58 < RoanKattouw> Probably because Tim was reviewing code or something
23:59 < Reedy> Yeah
23:59 < TimStarling> no, because abigor asked me to review the commit access requests
23:59 < Reedy> Ahh
23:59 < Reedy> I'm sure i briefly spoke to brion about that, and he didnt seem to see a problem about it
23:59 < RoanKattouw> Oh
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