--- Log opened Wed Nov 18 00:00:02 2009 --- Day changed Wed Nov 18 2009 00:00 < TimStarling> I assume trunk is full of problems like this, I'm not trying to find them just yet 00:00 -!- Wegge_18 is now known as Wegge 00:00 < Reedy> I did wonder if domas might try and kill me for it.. 00:00 < Reedy> The idea had come about, as we deemed it to be good practise to be "nice" towards the servers, and hence, we were being caught up now and again by overly lagged slaves, which were then hindering progress for the user... 00:01 -!- filmprog [n=filmprog@c-24-10-172-248.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 00:01 < CIA-66> catrope * r59185 /branches/usability/acaifix/ (7 files in 4 dirs): acaifix: Some IE fixes. This should fix bug 21492, bug 21220, bug 21248 and bug 21246 00:01 < werdna> in theory I think we'd like to be able to say "Whatever you do, do it single-threaded and we'll do the rate-limiting" 00:02 < werdna> I'm not sure if that's the case now or not 00:02 < TimStarling> well, like I said on the bug report, you should just leave off the maxlag parameter 00:02 < Reedy> It is single threaded access to MW, its only trying to load/save one article at a time 00:11 -!- Diamant001 [n=user6398@p579CA42A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de"] 00:12 < CIA-66> adam * r59186 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (7 files in 4 dirs): Rewriting the collapse and expand functions for jquery.wikiEditor.toc.js 00:13 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Toolbar buttons insert text on top in IE - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21492 +comment (roan.kattouw) 00:14 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Opera/IE : Not copy the highlighted value to Page Title - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21220 +comment (roan.kattouw) 00:14 < wikibugs> (FIXED) signature jumping up into text in IE8 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21248 +comment (roan.kattouw) 00:15 -!- Kaare is now known as KaareAway 00:18 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Search and Replace: Not function the Replace Next and Find Next in IE 7 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21246 +comment (roan.kattouw) 00:22 -!- Prodego [n=Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego] has joined #mediawiki 00:30 -!- Mike||gone is now known as Mike_lifeguard 00:36 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@221.30.73-86.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #mediawiki 00:41 -!- JNSamuel [n=JSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy] has joined #mediawiki 00:47 -!- Marco27 [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has quit ["'Notte! 'Night!"] 00:48 < wikibugs> (mod) Support collation by a certain locale (sorting order of characters) - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164 (michael) 00:48 < CIA-66> nad * r59187 /trunk/extensions/RecordAdmin/ (RecordAdmin.php RecordAdmin_body.php): remember values after populating form 00:48 < CIA-66> werdna * r59188 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/lqt.js: LiquidThreads: For IE7, disable animation of reply window showing, fixes remaining IE7 compatibility issues 00:48 < wikibugs> (mod) signature jumping up into text in IE8 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21248 (JimWae) 00:49 -!- carl-m is now known as carl-m|away 00:51 < wikibugs> (mod) signature jumping up into text in IE8 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21248 (roan.kattouw) 00:51 < CIA-66> werdna * r59189 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/LiquidThreads_alpha/ (. lqt.js): Merge r59188 from trunk 00:52 -!- everton137 [n=Everton@189-68-175-50.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:57 -!- fanno [n=Morten@90.184.93.233] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:58 -!- fanno [n=Morten@90.184.93.233] has joined #mediawiki 00:59 < CIA-66> werdna * r59190 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (. lqt.js): Merge LiquidThreads IE7 compatibility updates r59169 and r59188 to production deployment 01:00 < Natalie> DaSch changed protection level for "User talk:DaSch" [edit=autoconfirmed] (indefinite) [move=autoconfirmed] (indefinite) [newthread=autoconfirmed] (indefinite) [reply=autoconfirmed] (indefinite); http://liquidthreads-labs.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:log/modify 01:00 < Natalie> Ugh? 01:01 < Natalie> There's no need to repeat "=autoconfirmed" and "(indefinite)" four times. 01:01 < wikibugs> (mod) Support collation by a certain locale (sorting order of characters) - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164 +comment (mrzmanwiki) 01:02 < OverlordQ> probably easier to do it that way then merge each one if it's the same 01:02 < RoanKattouw> Natalie: Theoretically, they could all be different 01:02 < werdna> yes, but you can still merge them if they're the same 01:02 < werdna> it'd be extra logic 01:03 < Natalie> RoanKattouw: Well, there's also the issue of why you need two extra protection types. 01:03 -!- _lch_ [n=lch@f054164061.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["Verlassend"] 01:04 < Natalie> edit= should cover reply= and newthread=, really. 01:04 < wikibugs> (mod) signature jumping up into text in IE8 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21248 (JimWae) 01:04 < werdna> Natalie: well, people requested reply= and newthread= restrictions as well :) 01:04 < Natalie> WONTFIX 01:04 -!- everton137 [n=Everton@189-68-200-207.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #mediawiki 01:04 < Natalie> And I've made many more requests. :P 01:05 < werdna> Natalie: it seems like a reasonable request to me 01:05 -!- phyrex1an [n=phyrex1a@bumik.csbnet.se] has quit ["Leaving."] 01:05 < Natalie> werdna: I suppose. Why is it going to Log/modifiy? 01:06 < Natalie> I don't even know what /modify is. 01:06 < werdna> well, it's integrated with the remainder of the protection system 01:06 < Natalie> Heh, that URL is also invalid. 01:07 < Natalie> werdna: Is it using log_type="modify"? 01:07 < werdna> it's using whatever the normal protection log is using 01:07 < werdna> I'm pretty sure it's protect/modify 01:07 -!- Reedy [n=Reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:08 < Natalie> Hmmm. Maybe the IRC feed is just screwy. 01:09 < Natalie> The wiki isn't replicated to the TS. 01:09 < Natalie> Lame. 01:09 < Natalie> Or viewable, rather. 01:11 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@221.30.73-86.rev.gaoland.net] has quit ["Quitte"] 01:11 < wikibugs> (mod) signature jumping up into text in IE8 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21248 (JimWae) 01:13 < werdna> somebody just needs to rerun mkvirews 01:15 < werdna> let me see 01:17 < CIA-66> catrope * r59191 /branches/usability/acaifix/ (4 files in 3 dirs): acaifix: Change tactics for handling browsers that don't restore cursor positions: onblur causes problems, so use a delayed event on keyup and mouseup (may need more events there) 01:19 -!- Windows [n=chatzill@jmsb-lab060-gm10.Concordia.CA] has joined #mediawiki 01:19 -!- Windows is now known as Guest15369 01:19 < Guest15369> Greetings. Need help on Template parsing. Some templats on fr-wiki are not being parsed and give a link to edit page. What might be the reason? 01:20 < RoanKattouw> Guest15369: Which templates in particular? 01:21 < Guest15369> Thanks Roan: {{Encyclop'edie recherche}} 01:21 < RoanKattouw> Guest15369: Are you the same guy that posted about it in wikitech-l just now? 01:21 < Guest15369> yes I posted there a little earlier 01:21 < RoanKattouw> Guest15369: Is that an issue on your local wiki or on Wikipedia itself? 01:21 < RoanKattouw> I replied to you offlist assuming the former 01:21 < Guest15369> no it is on my local french wiki 01:22 < RoanKattouw> OK then read my off-list reply 01:22 < Guest15369> I hav not got your response yet. I will check the list email. Thanks 01:23 -!- ircman [n=ircman@office.datadigest.nl] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 01:23 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has joined #mediawiki 01:27 -!- Austin [n=austin@wikimedia/Austin] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:28 < CIA-66> catrope * r59192 /trunk/phase3/skins/vector/ (main-ltr.css main-rtl.css): Revert r58570 (override overspecific CSS on dewiki): can be done by making the offending CSS on dewiki more specific 01:30 -!- RoanKattouw [n=chatzill@mediawiki/Catrope] has quit ["zzzzzzzzzzz"] 01:31 -!- rainman-sr [n=rainman@user-544522c7.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:32 -!- dungodung is now known as dungodung|sleep 01:33 -!- JC is now known as JC|AFK 01:40 -!- akozak [n=alex@adsl-71-134-253-152.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit ["ABORTING"] 01:41 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has quit ["Some people are like slinkies. 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Does anyone know how to stop mediawiki from escaping ampersands in javascript? (The script is inside script tags which are inside html tags in a mediawiki page) 02:50 -!- everton137 [n=Everton@189-68-200-207.dsl.telesp.net.br] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 02:51 -!- everton137 [n=Everton@189-68-176-111.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #mediawiki 02:56 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has joined #mediawiki 02:59 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has quit [Client Quit] 03:14 -!- Mike_lifeguard [n=Mike@wikimedia/mikelifeguard] has left #mediawiki ["Mike is a four-letter word."] 03:32 -!- jdpond [n=jdpond@mediawiki/jpond] has left #MediaWiki [] 03:34 -!- hippietrail [n=chatzill@CPE-121-210-48-101.bqcz1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #mediawiki 03:35 < hippietrail> hi Amgine how are you going with querying the number of interwiki links? 03:36 < Amgine> Not well. Have to figure out where they're stored/how to query. 03:36 < hippietrail> Amgine: www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Database_layout 03:38 -!- Raymond_ [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has joined #mediawiki 03:39 -!- Dantman [n=dantman@wikia/dantman] has joined #mediawiki 03:40 < hippietrail> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interwiki_table 03:42 < Amgine> Actually, no, langlinks 03:43 < hippietrail> select count(*) from langlinks; == 1792342 03:44 < Amgine> Yes. Now does it include (for example) w:fr:title? 03:44 < hippietrail> that's all namespaces. i'm not sure what you mean 03:44 -!- brion [n=brion@wikipedia/Brion-VIBBER] has quit ["awayyyyy"] 03:45 < hippietrail> w:fr:title? you're looking to see if en.wikt connects to fr.wikt on a page called 'title' ? 03:45 < Amgine> No, that interwiki would connect to fr.wikipedia page called 'title' 03:46 < Amgine> Thus the question: can I report that number is *just* wiktionary links (in project), or does it include *all* interwikis? 03:46 < hippietrail> | 69804 | fr | title | 03:47 < hippietrail> that's the absolute grand total of all interlanguage links in enwikt so surely stuff you don't want to count 03:48 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has joined #mediawiki 03:49 < hippietrail> that is only language links. no links to other wikis which are not wiktionaries 03:49 < Amgine> good. 03:49 < hippietrail> but it will include links in talk pages, user pages, wiktionary: mediawiki: etc 03:50 < hippietrail> and of course only outgoing links 03:50 < Amgine> 03:52 < Amgine> I assume interwiki links are counted in the external links table; but I don't have to worry about that for this researcher so not something I'm tracking down. 03:53 -!- chuck [n=charlie@yourwiki/staff/charlie] has joined #mediawiki 03:55 < hippietrail> there is an interwiki table and a langlinks table 03:55 < hippietrail> select count(*) from langlinks inner join page on ll_from=page_id and page_namespace=0; == 1766063 03:55 < hippietrail> 1766064 now (-: 03:56 -!- Raymond_afk [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:57 < hippietrail> ouch page_title use the form "'d_better" and ll_title uses "'d better" 03:57 < hippietrail> which makes it real hard to find interlang mismatches 03:57 < Amgine> Yes. 03:58 < Amgine> That seems... odd and unexpected. 03:58 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has quit ["Some people are like slinkies. 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Can anyone help? 09:14 -!- phyrex1an [n=phyrex1a@bumik.csbnet.se] has joined #mediawiki 09:14 < OverlordQ> you'll only see the create tab when you're on a page that doesn't exist 09:15 -!- chalcedony [n=llhull@unaffiliated/chalcedony] has joined #mediawiki 09:16 < rotem> but say i want to "invite" users to create new content, because my site is EMPTY how would i do that? 09:17 < Natalie> E-mail? 09:17 < Natalie> Or post on the main page? 09:17 < rotem> on the main page 09:18 < rotem> sorry for newbieness... first install.. 09:20 -!- Witzman [n=witzman@outgoing.e-tecture.com] has joined #mediawiki 09:21 < rotem> i understand i can create a link to a page that doesn't exist but i want to link to a "create article" page without specific name 09:25 < rotem> anyone? 09:27 -!- AntiSpamMeta [n=MetaBot@unaffiliated/afterdeath/bot/antispambot] has quit [Killed by tomaw (restart)] 09:28 -!- AntiSpamMeta [n=MetaBot@unaffiliated/afterdeath/bot/antispambot] has joined #mediawiki 09:29 < Natalie> OverlordQ: External URLs in a default install? 09:29 < Natalie> &redirect=no would the reason to do it for "from." 09:30 -!- guillom [n=guillaum@wikimedia/guillom] has quit ["bbl"] 09:30 < TimStarling> I just discovered another couple of thousand lines of mdale's code 09:31 < TimStarling> completely unreviewed, runs as a firefox plugin 09:32 -!- dungodung|sleep is now known as dungodung 09:37 -!- Vyznev [n=vyznev@mediawiki/Ilmari-Karonen] has quit ["leaving"] 09:41 -!- zocky [n=zocky@wikipedia/zocky] has joined #mediawiki 09:42 -!- sDrewth [n=sDrewth@wikisource/billinghurst] has joined #mediawiki 09:44 -!- Az1568_ [n=1568@wikimedia/Az1568] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:46 -!- Az1568_ [n=1568@wikimedia/Az1568] has joined #mediawiki 09:48 < OverlordQ> Natalie: yea, well they get sent through the LinkerMakeExternalLink at least 09:49 < OverlordQ> *hook 09:54 -!- kibble [n=cbrown@wikimedia/Cbrown1023] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 09:58 -!- kibble [n=cbrown@wikimedia/Cbrown1023] has joined #mediawiki 10:02 -!- rotem [n=chatzill@89-138-236-124.bb.netvision.net.il] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.15/2009101601]"] 10:08 -!- j^_ [n=j@g225038248.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #mediawiki 10:11 -!- Bamie_ [i=Melvin@53566C45.cable.casema.nl] has joined #mediawiki 10:12 -!- Bamieater [i=Melvin@freenode/sponsor/bamieater] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:12 -!- j^ [n=j@g225035092.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 10:12 -!- JNSamuel [n=JSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:18 -!- bobinabottle [n=bobinabo@217.138.5.2] has joined #mediawiki 10:18 -!- JNSamuel [n=JSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy] has joined #mediawiki 10:24 -!- om3 [n=om3@ucaip121.uca.es] has joined #mediawiki 10:24 < om3> hi 10:24 < om3> I'm trying to enable Latex in a mediawiki installation. 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ROFLcopter!!! 14:46 < werdna> Nikerabbit: what other languages do you speak then? 14:47 < freakolowsky> I used to know a little Klingon ... forgot tho :S 14:47 -!- kevindanko [n=Kevindan@205.232.42.46] has quit [] 14:52 -!- ^demon [i=473eb5da@mediawiki/demon] has quit ["Page closed"] 14:53 -!- BradLee [n=chatzill@CPE-121-214-97-81.lnse4.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 14:54 -!- LauraHale [n=laurahal@adsl-99-142-42-96.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #mediawiki 14:55 -!- Raymond_afk [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 14:56 < wikibugs> (mod) Support collation by a certain locale (sorting order of characters) - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164 (mormegil) 14:56 < wikibugs> (mod) Errors dumping into PostgreSQL database - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19883 (wikipedia) 14:58 -!- Raymond_afk [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has joined #mediawiki 14:58 < wikibugs> (mod) Errors dumping into PostgreSQL database - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19883 +comment (wikipedia) 14:59 -!- kevindanko [n=Kevindan@205.232.42.46] has joined #mediawiki 14:59 < wikibugs> (DUP) Disabling triggers in PostgreSQL can only be done by super user - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21548 +comment (wikipedia) 14:59 < wikibugs> (mod) Errors dumping into PostgreSQL database - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19883 (wikipedia) 15:01 -!- Marco27 [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has joined #mediawiki 15:04 < CIA-66> reedy * r59196 /USERINFO/reedy: userinfo for reedy 15:05 < Reedy> Can a coder link my svn account to my wiki account please? Or even make me a "coder"? 15:08 -!- BrettR [n=chatzill@CPE00226b838ab8-CM00159a0251c4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 15:08 -!- AdLib [n=AdLib@212.88.135.174] has joined #mediawiki 15:08 < AdLib> hello 15:09 < AdLib> i want to realise a FAQ in mediawiki - for that i plan a new namespace (FAQ) for the FAQ Articles 15:09 < AdLib> somebody have a better idea to realise this mediawiki? 15:10 < Reedy> !namespace | AdLib 15:10 < mwbot> AdLib: See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Namespaces for user help and documentation, and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Namespace for administration. For adding namespaces, see !extranamespace 15:11 -!- mattis^1 [n=mattis@host33-243-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #mediawiki 15:11 -!- mattis^ [n=mattis@host180-242-dynamic.50-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Success] 15:12 -!- KaareAway is now known as Kaare 15:14 -!- Suiseiseki [n=desudesu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has joined #mediawiki 15:18 -!- guillom [n=guillaum@wikimedia/guillom] has joined #mediawiki 15:18 -!- AdLib [n=AdLib@212.88.135.174] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 15:20 -!- zocky [n=zocky@wikipedia/zocky] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:28 < wikibugs> (NEW) Mailing list for Arabic strategy task force - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21558 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (aude.wiki) 15:29 -!- JC|AFK [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has joined #mediawiki 15:30 < wikibugs> (mod) Paste image from clipboard Extension - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21557 +comment (christoph.wilhelms) 15:31 -!- JeroenDeDauw [n=Admin@193.190.172.174] has joined #mediawiki 15:32 -!- enomil [n=enomil@wikimedia/Enomil] has joined #mediawiki 15:34 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@wikipedia/duesentrieb] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:35 -!- Witzman [n=witzman@outgoing.e-tecture.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:41 -!- kevindanko [n=Kevindan@205.232.42.46] has quit [] 15:43 -!- kevindanko [n=Kevindan@205.232.42.46] has joined #mediawiki 15:46 < Nikerabbit> werdna: see babel at: http://translatewiki.net/wiki/User:Nike 15:46 < Nikerabbit> hmm, it might need some updating soon 15:46 -!- JC|AFK is now known as JC 15:47 -!- surfzoid [n=surfzoid@LAubervilliers-151-12-29-126.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #mediawiki 15:47 < surfzoid> Hi 15:48 < Nikerabbit> hi 15:49 < surfzoid> I'm trying to use this extension http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EmbeddedVideo when i'm in the preview of an article, video are correctly embedded, but in normal mode (saved) Firefox or IE ask me to open or save the video, am i missing something ? 15:50 < Nikerabbit> have you tried to contact the author? 15:51 -!- apergos [n=ariel@wiktionary/ArielGlenn] has quit ["Leaving."] 15:52 < surfzoid> no, this souded like more an mediawiki proble 15:54 -!- flubub1113 [n=Flubub@dslb-092-075-109-000.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #mediawiki 15:57 -!- sDrewth [n=sDrewth@wikisource/billinghurst] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:59 < Nikerabbit> why would it be a problem in mediawiki :o 16:02 -!- Diamant001 [n=user6398@p579CA6A5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mediawiki 16:02 < surfzoid> because it work nice in preview mode and i don't really see how the php extension page could make diff between preview and normal mode ? 16:02 < surfzoid> Nikerabbit: ^ 16:02 -!- PDD [i=PDD@wikipedia/PDD] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:04 < surfzoid> but, true if Russel Philip is here it could really help :-) 16:04 < Nikerabbit> surfzoid: are you sure sure it wants to you to download the file and not something else 16:05 -!- kevindanko [n=Kevindan@205.232.42.46] has quit [] 16:05 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has joined #mediawiki 16:05 < surfzoid> Nikerabbit: yes, this is the normal dialog of browser to "open/run" or "save" a file 16:05 < Nikerabbit> surfzoid: but what is the contents 16:06 < surfzoid> i tried with an .avi, .wmv and swf 16:06 < Nikerabbit> and? 16:06 < surfzoid> this was movie/video content 16:06 < surfzoid> all give the same result 16:07 < Nikerabbit> the code is nuts 16:07 < surfzoid> the code of the extension ? 16:08 < Nikerabbit> but anyway, I don't think the bug is in mediawiki 16:08 < Nikerabbit> yep 16:08 < Nikerabbit> looks very unsafe 16:08 < surfzoid> Nikerabbit: have you got any clue which part cause my problem ? 16:09 < Nikerabbit> nope 16:22 -!- SPQRobin [n=Robin@wikimedia/SPQRobin] has quit ["Leaving."] 16:23 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has quit ["Some people are like slinkies. 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You might try: !smtp 16:57 < Reedy> !smtp 16:57 < mwbot> See for information about configuring MediaWiki to use SMTP for sending mails, instead of using the sendmail interface. 16:57 < Reedy> freakolowsky, ^ 16:58 -!- MaxSem [n=max@wikimedia/MaxSem] has joined #mediawiki 16:58 < Natalie> !wg SMTP | Reedy 16:58 < mwbot> Reedy: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgSMTP 16:58 < Natalie> Bots are hard. 16:59 -!- dgts [n=dgts@p4FDB5706.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mediawiki 16:59 -!- Diamant001 [n=user6398@p579CA6A5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de"] 17:08 -!- RoanKattouw [n=chatzill@83.119.125.27] has joined #mediawiki 17:09 < RoanKattouw> Reedy: You're like the one in every ten committers that does remember to put eol-style=native on their USERINFO files :) Congrats 17:09 -!- Tango42 [n=chatzill@static-195-248-103-236.adsl.hotchilli.net] has joined #mediawiki 17:09 < Reedy> RoanKattouw, does that mean i get to keep my commit acces? ;) 17:10 < Reedy> Well, if i could spell it right 17:10 < RoanKattouw> Heh 17:10 < RoanKattouw> It means you don't get an embarrassing "svn:eol-style native" followup rev from ialex 17:10 < Reedy> heh 17:13 -!- dgts [n=dgts@p4FDB5706.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:13 < Reedy> RoanKattouw, when i make some proper progress with the flex/bison work, i'll see if i get time to do some more API stuff ;) 17:14 < RoanKattouw> What flex/bison work are you doing then? 17:14 < RoanKattouw> werdna: Should commits to LQT go to LiquidThreads_alpha/ ? 17:15 < werdna> RoanKattouw: there is no LiquidThreads_alpha except in wmf-deployment 17:15 < RoanKattouw> Oh OK 17:15 < Reedy> RoanKattouw, "Languages and Compilers Module".. Gotta write the lexical analyser and parser for this language the lecturer has come up with 17:15 -!- wolog [n=wolog@195.6.104.193] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:15 < RoanKattouw> Aah 17:16 < RoanKattouw> I'm in a Languages and Machines course myself, won't get a compilers course till next year though 17:16 < Reedy> heh, its just a module till christmas for me 17:17 < CIA-66> catrope * r59197 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (classes/View.php jquery/js2.combined.js): LiquidThreads: Switch from using js2.combined.js to the js2stopgap.js file in core; this should make LQT compatible with UsabilityInitiative 17:17 < RoanKattouw> Mine ends halfway Jan 17:17 -!- Marco27 [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has quit ["Bye!"] 17:18 < Reedy> heh 17:18 < Reedy> Yeah, jan is exam period... for me. Then more modules after that, and project continuing :) 17:20 < RoanKattouw> Are you doing a CS bachelor? 17:20 < RoanKattouw> Final year? 17:22 < Reedy> I'm on for an MEng, but this is my 3rd year, so would be for people just doing the bachelor, yeah :) 17:22 -!- Natalie [n=z@wikipedia/MZMcBride] has quit [Excess Flood] 17:23 < RoanKattouw> Ah yes 17:23 -!- Natalie [n=z@wikipedia/MZMcBride] has joined #mediawiki 17:26 -!- RoanKattouw_away [n=RoanKatt@mediawiki/Catrope] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 17:28 -!- ludvig [n=chatzill@92-244-18-250.customers.ownit.se] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.15/2009101601]"] 17:35 -!- kunsole [n=juxo@wikipedia/Juxo] has quit ["leaving"] 17:37 -!- Tango42 [n=chatzill@static-195-248-103-236.adsl.hotchilli.net] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 17:38 -!- Cain` [n=Geek@unaffiliated/cain] has joined #MediaWiki 17:43 < freakolowsky> anyone knows where i could find any log entries 'bout a RSA sidechannel attack 17:43 -!- Cain [n=Geek@unaffiliated/cain] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:43 -!- Cain` is now known as Cain 17:43 -!- Danwe [n=opera@p5B08DFA9.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #mediawiki [] 17:44 -!- aZaFred [n=aZaFred@wikimedia/Azafred] has joined #mediawiki 17:44 < wikibugs> (mod) Errors dumping into PostgreSQL database - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19883 +comment (wikipedia) 17:46 -!- puzzlet_ [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has joined #mediawiki 17:47 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:48 < Brownout> RoanKattouw: please don't RT with groups on identica, we end up with several dupes ;) 17:48 < RoanKattouw> Brownout: Sorry dude :P 17:52 < CIA-66> catrope * r59198 /branches/wmf-deployment/ (114 files in 82 dirs): 17:52 < CIA-66> wmf-deployment: Merge some revs for the upcoming usability deployment (apologies for the mergeinfo noise) 17:52 < CIA-66> * r57541: Add CSS classes for CollapsibleTabs 17:52 < CIA-66> * r57916: Set white-space:nowrap; on Vector tabs for better animating 17:52 < CIA-66> * r58151: Rebuild RTL stylesheet 17:52 < CIA-66> * r58219: Fix watch/unwatch style bug 17:55 -!- Betacommand [n=Betacomm@unaffiliated/betacommand] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:55 < ThomasV> is usability going to be deployed soon ? 17:56 < surfzoid> Nikerabbit: the problem was in the extension php code it generate a java script with some relative path, in preview mode, the root was good but normal mode don't have the same root ! 17:56 -!- ZioCorto [i=c1cedc02@gateway/web/freenode/x-cvpftdnddmdsrlrl] has quit ["Page closed"] 17:56 -!- Betacommand [n=Betacomm@unaffiliated/betacommand] has joined #mediawiki 17:59 < MaxSem> can someone give me an open DNS server IP? my ISP is trolling again :-[ 17:59 < wikibugs> (mod) Index page not recorded as a dependency when using ProofreadPages - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21136 (thomasV1) 17:59 < RoanKattouw> ThomasV: In two hours, hopefully 18:00 < surfzoid> MaxSem: http://www.online-tech-tips.com/cool-websites/free-dns-server/ 18:01 < ThomasV> RoanKattouw: as default ? 18:01 < MaxSem> oh thanks, but I can't visit them unless I add ne of them to my network settings 18:01 < RoanKattouw> ThomasV: No, just enhancements 18:02 < Reedy> MaxSem, 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 18:02 < Reedy> are listed on that page 18:02 < ThomasV> I see. is it planned as default in the future ? if yes do you know when that might happen ? 18:02 < RoanKattouw> ThomasV: Yes, at some point early in the new year 18:02 < MaxSem> thanks 18:02 < ThomasV> I have to fix a bug by then 18:03 < RoanKattouw> What's that? 18:03 < ThomasV> RoanKattouw: 21225 18:07 -!- Dantman [n=dantman@wikia/dantman] has joined #mediawiki 18:08 -!- rainman-sr [n=rainman@flywall.sysbiol.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:08 -!- Austin [n=austin@adsl-99-190-39-77.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #mediawiki 18:12 < avar> MaxSem: Also, `dig +short | sort' at any shell prompt 18:13 < MaxSem> what's that? 18:13 < avar> A list of open DNS servers 18:15 < MaxSem> huh, I'm on Windows:) 18:15 < avar> I'm sorry 18:17 -!- G_SabinoMullane [n=greg@pool-71-162-163-230.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #mediawiki 18:20 -!- xbaez [n=xbaez@200.34.201.2] has joined #mediawiki 18:20 < wikibugs> (mod) Support collation by a certain locale (sorting order of characters) - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164 (catlow) 18:23 < CIA-66> werdna * r59199 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/LiquidThreads_alpha/classes/View.php: LiquidThreads debugging code 18:25 -!- Tango42 [n=chatzill@static-195-248-103-236.adsl.hotchilli.net] has joined #mediawiki 18:25 -!- Sundance_Raphael [n=chatzill@pD9E9462B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mediawiki 18:26 < MaxSem> I think I've seen somewhere an instruction how to lock down a particular bug in Bugzilla... 18:27 -!- Bryan [n=launch@wikimedia-commons/Bryan] has joined #mediawiki 18:29 -!- RoanKattouw is now known as RoanKattouw_away 18:29 < Nikerabbit> ugga 18:30 -!- yoyo[RKN] [n=Miranda@i577B64DA.versanet.de] has joined #mediawiki 18:31 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@152.81.13.143] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:36 < Bryan> hehe a USERINFO with proper svn:eol-style 18:38 -!- TrevorParscal [n=TrevorPa@216.38.133.254] has joined #mediawiki 18:38 -!- yoyo[RKN] [n=Miranda@i577B64DA.versanet.de] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 18:41 -!- Tango42 [n=chatzill@static-195-248-103-236.adsl.hotchilli.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:41 -!- Tango42 [n=chatzill@static-195-248-103-236.adsl.hotchilli.net] has joined #mediawiki 18:42 -!- akozak [n=alex@adsl-71-134-253-152.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #mediawiki 18:45 -!- Raymond_afk [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has joined #mediawiki 18:47 < freakolowsky> lool ... been staring at the monitor why it went blank ... before noticeing IRC is still on the screen ... gotta love background cycle :D 18:47 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has joined #mediawiki 18:48 -!- RoanKattouw_away is now known as RoanKattouw 18:49 < werdna> ugh, stupid heisenbug 18:51 < CIA-66> werdna * r59200 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/LiquidThreads_alpha/classes/View.php: LiquidThreads debugging code 18:51 < RoanKattouw> Bryan: I know, right? He's an API guy, gotta keep my rep up :) 18:52 -!- lugnut_tville [n=chatzill@65.248.164.99] has joined #mediawiki 18:57 < CIA-66> maxsem * r59201 /trunk/phase3/maintenance/syntaxChecker.php: Checking images for syntax errors can yield funky results:) 18:59 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has quit ["Some people are like slinkies. 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Can we switch to git for real, please? :) 20:00 < kevindanko> theres no element attached to that text... 20:01 -!- Diamant001 [n=user6398@p579CA6A5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mediawiki 20:03 < wikibugs> (NEW) WMF interwiki map needs to be updated - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21561 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Interwiki links; (barras-ps) 20:03 < MaxSem> AryehGregor, you'll be the test dummy 20:03 < AryehGregor> Er, how so? 20:09 < CIA-66> nimishg * r59205 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ClickTracking/ClickTracking.hooks.php: escaping using addQuotes 20:12 < Duesentrieb> werdna: i need to demo lqt... got a link? 20:13 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59206 /trunk/extensions/DonationInterface/payflowpro_gateway/payflowpro_gateway.i18n.php: 20:13 < CIA-66> * zip code -> postal code 20:13 < CIA-66> * Amex -> American Express 20:14 < werdna> Duesentrieb: http://liquidthreads.labs.wikimedia.org 20:17 < lugnut_tville> have a situation wherein users authenticate on the wiki w/ LDAP, they have to be a member of specific group in order for that to happen. My problem is having a group elevated to sysop based on AD group. Which I thought was accomplished by $wgGroupPermissions['ADGROUP'] = $wgGroupPermissions['sysop'] Upon listing the members of that newly created group no one is listed. Suggestions.... 20:17 < RoanKattouw> lugnut_tville: You just created a new group with the same permissions as sysop, but that doesn't magically add those users to that group 20:18 < RoanKattouw> It's called wgGroupPERMISSIONS for a reason 20:18 < wikibugs> (mod) Index page not recorded as a dependency when using ProofreadPages - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21136 (ralf) 20:19 < lugnut_tville> @RoanKattouw not following your subtle hints 20:19 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59207 /trunk/extensions/SignDocument/SpecialSignDocument.i18n.php: zip (code) -> postal code 20:19 < RoanKattouw> lugnut_tville: group *permissions* says what a group can do, but changing that doesn't add people to a group 20:21 < lugnut_tville> @RoanKattouw, how does one add a member to the group automagically, or is that possible? 20:21 < AryehGregor> Why would you want to? 20:21 < AryehGregor> You can use $wgAutopromote, in principle, depending on what sort of automagic you want. 20:22 < lugnut_tville> I want users in X group to have sysop rights, the other users will have edit rights. We are moving from a local auth to ldap b/c of the number of users has grown substantially 20:23 < AryehGregor> I assume the LDAP extension can somehow add groups automagically. 20:23 < AryehGregor> I don't know how it works, though. 20:24 < AryehGregor> I started on a unified system to allow auth from any source with a consistent core interface, but didn't get very far. So it's up to each authentication extension to decide on its own config variables and such. 20:26 -!- surfzoid [n=surfzoid@LAubervilliers-151-12-29-126.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 20:26 -!- chanur [n=chatzill@216.89.105.70] has joined #mediawiki 20:27 -!- dungodung is now known as dungodung|away 20:27 -!- chanur [n=chatzill@216.89.105.70] has quit [Client Quit] 20:30 < wikibugs> (NEW) The fundraiser banner was displayed in the wrong language - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21562 normal; Normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; (crangasi2001) 20:33 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has joined #mediawiki 20:33 -!- freakolowsky [n=freakolo@84-255-254-147.static.t-2.net] has quit ["deedeee do not push that bu......."] 20:34 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:34 -!- Scouse [n=chatzill@cpc1-shep9-0-0-cust352.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #mediawiki 20:35 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has joined #mediawiki 20:35 < Scouse> hi, i am trying to make a template and i am stuck 20:35 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 20:35 < Amgine> 20:35 < Amgine> Alphos, even 20:36 < Scouse> i am helping set up a new wiki from scratch and am pretty new at it 20:36 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has joined #mediawiki 20:36 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has quit [Client Quit] 20:36 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has joined #mediawiki 20:38 -!- sDrewth [n=sDrewth@wikisource/billinghurst] has joined #mediawiki 20:38 < Scouse> so once i have made the page Template:whatever i want it to be a template for a right hand side infobox 20:38 -!- ireas [n=ireas@wikipedia/Ireas] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 20:39 < Amgine> Include {{whatever}} in your right hand side infobox. 20:39 < Scouse> ok 20:41 -!- sDrewth [n=sDrewth@wikisource/billinghurst] has left #mediawiki [] 20:41 < Scouse> ok, i really dont know what i am doing, i will be back with a better question 20:41 -!- Amgine [n=Amgine@wikinews/Amgine] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:42 -!- Amgine [n=Amgine@wikinews/Amgine] has joined #Mediawiki 20:42 < Scouse> ok, so i know how to make a template 20:43 < Scouse> how do i made an infobox? 20:43 < Amgine> Do you have parser functions extensions installed? 20:43 < Nikerabbit> werdna: why I can't link to whole thread? 20:44 < werdna> to which whole thread? 20:44 < werdna> why can't you? 20:44 < werdna> is there somebody stopping you? 20:44 < Scouse> i dont know, i am not hosting the site. does it come as a default instillation 20:44 < Scouse> ? 20:44 < werdna> a big burly man with a [NO LINKING] sign and a gun? 20:44 < Nikerabbit> werdna: there is no "link to this thread" 20:44 < Nikerabbit> werdna: and even http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Thread:Support/PLURAL_for_pt-br does not show the whole thread 20:45 < werdna> you do it on the first post 20:45 < werdna> but maybe I should put it in thread-level commands 20:45 < Nikerabbit> if you go to [[Support]] there is more replies on it 20:45 < Amgine> Scouse: Check [[Special:Version]] on your site. 20:45 < Amgine> then tell me if you're working on a Wikia hosted site? 20:45 < werdna> Nikerabbit: bah, you can reproduce that bug? 20:45 < werdna> I can't reproduce it 20:45 -!- ecs [n=ecs@d205-250-96-8.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #mediawiki 20:45 -!- ecstasia [n=ecs@unaffiliated/ecstasia] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:46 < Scouse> Amgine: what do you want to know from that pagE? 20:46 < Nikerabbit> werdna: how many posts do you see on that page? 20:46 < Amgine> I want to know if there's an entry for ParserFunctions 20:46 < werdna> I can't reproduce it locally 20:46 < Scouse> Amgine: Parserfunctions version 1.3.0 20:47 < Nikerabbit> werdna: weird 20:47 < werdna> I should try harder 20:47 < Amgine> Scouse: Now, what host is your wiki on? 20:48 < Nikerabbit> werdna: can I help to debug it somehow? 20:48 -!- NeKit [i=nekit@95-83-18-157.saransk.ru] has joined #mediawiki 20:48 < NeKit> how to insert [ and ] as symbols 20:48 < NeKit> no as a link? 20:48 < NeKit> *nit 20:48 < NeKit> *not 20:48 < Scouse> Amgine: hold on, we dont have it installed 20:48 < werdna> Nikerabbit: let me just try a bit harder to reproduce locally 20:48 < Scouse> Amgine: mediawiki 20:49 < Scouse> Amgine: http://www.sto-database.co.uk/index.php?title=Special:Version 20:50 < Amgine> Scouse: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions 20:50 < Amgine> NeKit: use [ 20:50 < Amgine> Or use the html entity. 20:51 < Scouse> Amgine: Thanks 20:51 < Amgine> np. You've only just touched your toe into the troubles... you'll be back soon. 20:51 < Scouse> Amgine: i'm not leaving! 20:51 < NeKit> Amgine: thanks, but what html entity is? 20:52 < Amgine> heh... 20:52 < Amgine> NeKit: What is your preferred language? 20:52 < NeKit> Amgine: Russian. or English 20:52 < werdna> Nikerabbit: for me to debug properly, I'd really like to be able to just hack at the code on a running site exhibiting the bug 20:52 < werdna> which isn't so great for a production site 20:52 < werdna> doesn't seem to happen for me locally though :/ 20:53 < Nikerabbit> werdna: there is "sandwiki" which runs on the production database but different code 20:53 < werdna> Nikerabbit: ooo 20:53 < werdna> would you be willing to give me write access to the code there? 20:53 < Amgine> NeKit: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9C%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8_%D0%B2_HTML 20:54 < NeKit> Amgine: there are no this symbol 20:55 < werdna> alternatively, I could just dump liquidthreads_labswikimedia and run it locally 20:55 < werdna> maybe I'll do that... 20:55 < Amgine> Yes, just noticed that. 20:55 < Amgine> 20:55 < Amgine> [ = [ 20:56 < CIA-66> catrope * r59208 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (Makefile js/plugins.combined.js js/plugins.combined.min.js): wmf-deployment: Usability fix: forgot jquery.collapsibletabs.js in the Makefile 20:56 < Amgine> ] = ] 20:56 < NeKit> Amgine: thanks 20:56 < Amgine> You're welcome. 20:57 < Scouse> Amgine: Are you free to help me again? 20:57 < Amgine> Yes. 20:57 < Scouse> ok 20:57 < NeKit> Amgine: it decodes it 20:57 < NeKit> and a link don't work 20:58 < Amgine> NeKit: Can you show me what you would like to do? 20:58 < Amgine> Go ahead Scouse; I'll multi-task. 20:58 < Scouse> basically i am trying to make a page something like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_battleship_Bismarck 20:58 < Scouse> with the infobox on the side 20:58 < Scouse> and with similar templates 20:59 < Scouse> i has no idea 20:59 < Amgine> Just a moment. 20:59 < CIA-66> tomasz * r59209 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/ContributionReporting/ (. FundraiserStatistics.css FundraiserStatistics_body.php): picking up r59176 20:59 < NeKit> [[[LP]Scorpion]] 20:59 < Scouse> thank you 21:00 < Amgine> Okay, first off, do not do it that way. 21:00 < werdna> that won't work :) 21:00 < werdna> you can't have an article with [ in the title 21:01 < NeKit> found a way 21:01 < NeKit> [[LPScorpion|[LP]Scorpion]] 21:01 < Amgine> Uhm, what kind of information are you going to be presenting? An image, a table of biographic data, anything else? 21:01 < Scouse> it is info about a ship 21:01 < Amgine> Excellent NeKit 21:01 < wikibugs> (mod) Images accessibility with gallery, alt= doesn't exist - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18682 +comment (guillom.pom) 21:01 < Scouse> so, pic, specs 21:02 < Amgine> Scouse: good, that's something I know a bit about. 21:02 -!- Raymond_afk is now known as Raymond_ 21:02 < Amgine> Scouse: Your best bet is to create a specialized infobox. 21:02 < Scouse> ok 21:02 < Amgine> Let me create a brief outline. 21:02 < wikibugs> (mod) Can't provide alt text for files in - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18682 summary (guillom.pom) 21:03 < NeKit> also, how to link at a category? 21:06 -!- ialex [n=IAlex@mediawiki/ialex] has joined #mediawiki 21:08 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@argon.loria.fr] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:08 -!- lugnut_tville [n=chatzill@65.248.164.99] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox-3.5 3.5.3/20090910172411]"] 21:08 -!- mgrabovsky [n=MGrab@wikipedia/Mat--j-Grabovsk--] has quit ["Carpe diem"] 21:09 -!- Bamieater [i=Melvin@freenode/sponsor/bamieater] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 21:09 -!- Kester` is now known as Kester 21:10 < Amgine> NeKit: [[:Category:Name]] <- note the preceding : 21:10 < Amgine> 21:10 < Scouse> sorry 21:11 < Scouse> i can show you a closer and more simple example of waht i want if you like? 21:12 < Amgine> Sure 21:12 < Scouse> http://stowiki.org/wiki/Excalibur_class 21:13 < wikibugs> (DUP) RevDeleted to link to the actual revision(s) involved for all users - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18753 +comment (JSchulz_4587) 21:13 < wikibugs> (mod) Log entries for deleting log entries are opaque - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18335 (JSchulz_4587) 21:14 < werdna> Nikerabbit: poke, still around? 21:14 < Nikerabbit> uga? 21:15 < werdna> Nikerabbit: I asked if you would be able to give me access to the sandwiki for some quick debugging? 21:15 < werdna> I tried dumping liquidthreads_labswikimedia, but all the text is in ES 21:15 -!- Daedalus969 [n=Daedalus@unaffiliated/daedalus969] has joined #mediawiki 21:16 < Amgine> Scouse: That's a simple table, which would be much easier. 21:16 < Scouse> ok 21:19 < Nikerabbit> werdna: mebbe 21:19 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 21:19 -!- aleksandrit [n=aleksand@wikimedia/Aleksandrit] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:20 -!- zrh [n=zrh@dynamic-80-242-196-229.catv.glattnet.ch] has joined #mediawiki 21:20 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has joined #mediawiki 21:21 -!- Bamieater [i=Melvin@53566C45.cable.casema.nl] has joined #mediawiki 21:22 < werdna> Nikerabbit: would be helpful if possible 21:23 < Saruman> Anybody know how to get the preprocessed text of a wiki page? 21:23 < werdna> the output of preprocessing is not text 21:23 < Saruman> i.e. with templates, queries etc. resolved 21:23 < Saruman> ok 21:24 * Alphos is back 21:24 * Alphos pokes Amgine and Scouse 21:24 < Alphos> help still needed ? 21:24 < Scouse> yeah i think so 21:24 < Saruman> problem: I have a wiki page with templates, semantic queries etc. I want to feed this to extension Collection, but this does not know how to parse the queries etc. 21:24 < Alphos> so 21:24 < Alphos> let me just a few secs to read everything up ^^' 21:25 < Alphos> ok, help on infobox templates ^^ 21:25 < Saruman> solution: let MW or an extension process the wiki page, expanding templates, resolving {{#if: and {{#ask: and such, and then send that expanded page to Collection 21:25 < Amgine> Scouse: http://www.sto-database.co.uk/index.php?title=User:Amgine/Ship_infobox 21:26 < Saruman> anyone happens to know if this is already possible? 21:26 < Alphos> infoboxes are nothing else than tables glued to the (usually) right side of a page 21:26 < Alphos> this is something easily done with CSS 21:26 < Amgine> You will notice that you need to know how to do CSS classes for that infobox. 21:26 < Alphos> !css 21:26 < mwbot> To change styles for your wiki, go to one of the MediaWiki:xxx.css wiki page (NOT a file) and put your custom styles there (sysop/admin rights required). MediaWiki:Common.css is for all skins and should be used for content styles. MediaWiki:Monobook.css is for the MonoBook skin (default), etc. For more information, see !skins and 21:26 < Amgine> Heh. 21:27 < Alphos> if you don't know how Cascading Style Sheets work, you WILL have to read quite a lot about it by yourself 21:27 < Alphos> lots of tutorial exist 21:27 -!- zrh [n=zrh@dynamic-80-242-196-229.catv.glattnet.ch] has left #mediawiki [] 21:27 < Alphos> most of them accessible with a simple search on google ;) 21:27 < CIA-66> raymond * r59210 /trunk/ (91 files in 67 dirs): Localisation updates for core and extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-11-18 20:00 UTC) 21:28 < Alphos> basically, the css properties you want are width, text-align, margin (or margin-right), and possibly padding 21:28 < Scouse> hello 21:29 < Amgine> Hello Scouse. 21:29 < Scouse> soz, was occupied 21:29 < Amgine> Yer gonna need to know CSS. See the above comments from Alphos 21:30 < Scouse> hmm, a simple table maybe? 21:31 < Amgine> Well, you need to use the CSS to glue the table to the right side. 21:31 < Scouse> ok 21:31 -!- reid06 [n=reid06@CPE001cdf73661f-CM001ceacec55e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #mediawiki 21:31 < Amgine> And the CSS is useful to give it a border, outline the header boxes, but not the label/value boxes. 21:31 < Amgine> And so on. 21:31 < Alphos> Saruman : "A detailed guide on how to prepare your wiki (templates, help pages, categories) if you setup the extension is available at meta.wikimedia.org." 21:31 < Alphos> if you look that sentence up, you will see a somewhat useful link i believe 21:33 < Amgine> 21:34 < Scouse> Is CSS something you use in the Edit page? 21:34 < Alphos> Scouse : you can use it in many places 21:34 * apergos is mildly curious what will be slain 21:35 < Amgine> It's put into the MediaWiki:monobook.css, in this case. 21:35 < Scouse> ok 21:35 < Alphos> in the template wikicode, in the common.css system message, in any skin.css ... 21:35 < Scouse> well i do not host the wiki so i cannot do thast stuff? 21:35 < Alphos> sure you can 21:35 -!- aude [n=chatzill@wikipedia/Aude] has joined #mediawiki 21:36 < Alphos> the template wikicode is... well the wikicode of the template 21:36 < Scouse> Alphos: wish you hadnt said that! 21:36 < Alphos> that's something you can change by editing the template 21:36 < werdna> hi aude 21:36 < Alphos> obviously 21:37 < Alphos> MediaWiki:Common.css is a system message, something you can edit through your wiki 21:37 < Scouse> ok, i really am a complete novice at this 21:37 < Alphos> so is .css ( being monobook, vector, ... etc) 21:37 < Scouse> i think i need to go back and start at the beginning 21:37 < aude> hey 21:37 < Alphos> why do you think that, Scouse ? 21:38 < Scouse> cos i have know idea what you are on about 21:38 < Alphos> ok 21:38 < Scouse> sorry 21:38 < Alphos> give me the address of your wiki ^^ 21:38 < Alphos> i'll show you :) 21:38 < Scouse> and thanks for trying to help me 21:38 < Scouse> http://www.sto-database.co.uk/index.php?title=Main_Page 21:40 < Alphos> http://www.sto-database.co.uk/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css this is the address of the system message (something sysops can edit through the usual edit interface) where you can alter the css properties that apply to all pages, no matter what skin users have chosen 21:40 < Scouse> ok... 21:41 < Alphos> since you are on the basic skin, called Monobook.css, the url where the corresponding system message is, is http://www.sto-database.co.uk/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Monobook.css 21:41 < Scouse> im not syops 21:41 < Alphos> did you install the wiki ? 21:41 < Scouse> nope 21:41 < Scouse> friend 21:41 < Alphos> http://www.sto-database.co.uk/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Monobook.css&action=edit what do you see here ? 21:41 < Alphos> can you see "You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason: " 21:41 < Scouse> no, edit 21:42 < Amgine> gruel, Apergos. 21:42 < Alphos> ok, then i suppose you can see buttons at the bottom of the page 21:42 < Alphos> which reminds me... 21:42 * Alphos slays apergos 21:42 * Alphos is now known as Buffy 21:43 < Scouse> i can see Save page, show preview etc 21:43 < Scouse> is that waht you mean? 21:43 < Alphos> great Scouse 21:43 < Alphos> which means you ARE a sysop on that wiki ;) 21:43 < Scouse> ok 21:43 < Scouse> i was meant to be 21:43 < Alphos> ok 21:44 < Alphos> oh, by the way, i guess you know wikipedia 21:44 < Scouse> yeah 21:44 < Alphos> you could want "short urls" 21:45 < Alphos> thinks like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France 21:45 < Scouse> interesting 21:45 < Alphos> (in your case http://www.sto-database.co.uk/wiki/Klingon ) 21:46 < Alphos> (which is a little cleaner than "/index.php?title=Klingon") 21:46 < Alphos> if you do, you WILL have to redo the installation ;) 21:46 * apergos dies messily with shrieks of pain and agony 21:46 < apergos> aaaaauuuggghhh 21:46 < Alphos> !short urls 21:46 < mwbot> I don't know anything about "short". You might try: !rewriteproblems !shorturl 21:46 < Alphos> !shorturls 21:46 < mwbot> To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem 21:47 * Alphos looks at apergos go "poof" 21:47 < Scouse> ok, cheers 21:47 < Alphos> !rewriteproblem 21:47 < mwbot> 1) Try as a fail-safe method; 2) Do not put the files into the document root; 3) Do not map the pages into the document root; 4) Use different, non-overlapping paths for real files and virtual pages; 5) Do not set a RewriteBase; 6) Put all rules into the .htaccess file in the document root. 21:48 < apergos> *poof* :-D 21:48 -!- foksieloy [n=Miranda@78-1-172-246.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:48 < Alphos> the problem is your installation does not respect rule 2) Do not put the files into the document root 21:48 < Scouse> doesn't it? 21:49 < Alphos> which means it'll be a true pain in the ass to make it work that way 21:49 < Alphos> Scouse nope, the document root obviously is http://www.sto-database.co.uk 21:49 < Alphos> and the index.php obviously is right inside it 21:50 < Scouse> you see, that wasn't obviuos to me 21:50 < CIA-66> aaron * r59211 /trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): last tweak for bug 21352 (RevDelete messages) 21:50 < wikibugs> (FIXED) RevisionDelete interface messages (short) - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21352 +comment (JSchulz_4587) 21:50 < Alphos> for example on wikipedia, the document root path is / 21:50 -!- zrh [n=zrh@dynamic-80-242-196-229.catv.glattnet.ch] has joined #mediawiki 21:51 < Alphos> and the path to the directory holding MediaWiki is /w/ 21:51 < Amgine> Apergos is a poofeur? 21:51 < Alphos> whereas the "false path" created by the RewriteRule is /wiki/ 21:52 -!- RoanKattouw_ [n=chatzill@83.119.125.27] has joined #mediawiki 21:52 -!- RoanKattouw [n=chatzill@mediawiki/Catrope] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:52 -!- RoanKattouw_ is now known as RoanKattouw 21:52 < Alphos> the directory /wiki/ does NOT exist, it's just an alias used by the server to point back to /w/index.php 21:53 < Alphos> Amgine : did that have any kind of sexually demeaning inconscious meaning ? :p 21:54 -!- wastrel [n=wastrel@nylug/member/wastrel] has left #mediawiki ["l8r"] 21:54 < CIA-66> catrope * r59212 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (6 files in 4 dirs): USabilityInitiative: Add support for versioning toolbar icons 21:54 -!- JW|AFK is now known as Jake_Wartenberg 21:54 < Amgine> Strictly speaking about the gas production, of course. 21:54 < Alphos> :D 21:55 < CIA-66> ialex * r59213 /trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (2 files in 2 dirs): svn:eol-style native 21:56 -!- Hendo001 [n=lee@host81-132-203-179.range81-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #mediawiki 21:56 < Hendo001> lo 21:56 < Scouse> Alphos: my friend is coming on to ask you Hendo001 21:56 < Alphos> is that the contrary of "hi", Hendo001 ? :) 21:56 < Hendo001> yeah 21:57 < Hendo001> alphos would i be better off installing the wiki to sto-database.co.uk/whatever/ rather than just in the sto-database folder on my web host? 21:57 < CIA-66> catrope * r59214 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (10 files in 7 dirs): wmf-deployment: Merge r59212 21:57 < Alphos> you most definitely would Hendo001 21:58 < Hendo001> what should i call it? 21:58 < Alphos> i don't want to reactivate firefox with firebug right now, but i believe you use apache 21:58 < Hendo001> and should i put like a temp page in the main directory with a link to the wiki? 21:59 < Hendo001> yeah my web server uses apache 21:59 < Alphos> if you do, keep in mind that the rewrite rules when putting mediawiki in the document root are many times more complicated, and buggy 21:59 < Hendo001> its a linux system 21:59 < Alphos> \o/ 21:59 < Alphos> anyway 21:59 < Saruman> Alphos: tnx for the link to Book tool. In the mean time I found Special:ExpandTemplates and believe that that'll solve just about all problems for Collection 21:59 < Alphos> the easy way is to use a simple subroot directory 21:59 < Hendo001> i'm new to all this so u might need t go slow lol 21:59 < Alphos> no problem ;) 22:00 < Hendo001> so yeah install the wiki software to co.uk/a folder right? 22:00 -!- LauraHale is now known as Laura|Away 22:00 -!- Scouse [n=chatzill@cpc1-shep9-0-0-cust352.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 22:00 < Alphos> for example 22:00 < Hendo001> then follow the http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL 22:00 < Hendo001> instructions 22:00 < Alphos> exactly :) 22:00 < Alphos> wikipedia uses /w/ 22:00 -!- Olipro [n=Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.active.olipro] has joined #mediawiki 22:01 -!- Sundance_Raphael [n=chatzill@pD9E9462B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 22:01 < Alphos> then has its rewriterule in apache point from /wiki/ 22:01 < Hendo001> so i shouldnt install it to co.uk/wikki? 22:01 < Hendo001> wiki i mean 22:01 < Alphos> but you can use it to point from basically anywhere 22:01 < Alphos> nope 22:01 < Hendo001> i should call it something else 22:01 < Alphos> or well, depends of what you want ^^ 22:02 < Alphos> wikipedia install is easy and well documented 22:02 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@84-105-109-14.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091109125225]"] 22:02 < Alphos> (the examples match the rewriterules on wikipedia) 22:02 < Hendo001> i want something thats easy to use really and easy to maintain/maybe some mods or skins 22:02 < Hendo001> i dont know anything about rewrite n stuff :( 22:02 < Hendo001> i'm a noob lol 22:02 -!- _sj_ [n=sj_@wikipedia/sj] has joined #mediawiki 22:03 < Hendo001> let me go make a new install 22:03 < Alphos> ok, let's start from scratch 22:03 < Hendo001> all the data i got already is in the db right? so i can just connect up to it and it'll be the same as it is now? 22:03 < Hendo001> coz i dont fancy copy/pasting it all again lol 22:03 < Hendo001> or would i need a new db? 22:04 < Alphos> hm... 22:04 < Alphos> i'm never confident in reinstalling 22:04 < Alphos> you should use mysqldump (if you used mySQL as a dbms) 22:04 < Alphos> dump everything in your db 22:04 < kevindanko> Huge question 22:04 < Hendo001> i can use phpmyadmin n backup the whole db 22:04 < Hendo001> its not hard 22:05 < Alphos> nope, you can't actually 22:05 -!- guillom [n=guillaum@wikimedia/guillom] has quit ["nighty night"] 22:05 < Hendo001> then when its installed just reupload the info back to the tables 22:05 < Alphos> phpmyadmin doesn't manage BLOB in mysql 22:05 < Alphos> which is the kind of field mediawiki uses 22:05 < Hendo001> hmm what is blob anyways? 22:05 < Hendo001> just a type of sql field? 22:05 < Alphos> yes 22:06 < Alphos> but phpyadmin doesn't read them, as far as i know ^^' 22:06 < Hendo001> hmmm so how would i get the blob fields in my db backup? 22:06 < Hendo001> infact 22:06 < Hendo001> tbh all we're doing is moving the path of the software right? 22:07 < Alphos> do you have shell access ? 22:07 -!- Skizzerz [n=skizzerz@mediawiki/Skizzerz] has joined #mediawiki 22:07 < Hendo001> so the db is fine as is? and i can just connect upto it 22:07 < CIA-66> churchofemacs * r59215 /trunk/phase3/includes/Skin.php: Make adding sidebar elements easier for extensions (e.g. Extension:GroupsSidebar) 22:07 < Hendo001> erm i dont think so 22:07 < Alphos> hm... 22:07 < Alphos> let me read up some more 22:07 < CIA-66> churchofemacs * r59216 /trunk/extensions/GroupsSidebar/ (. GroupsSidebar.body.php GroupsSidebar.php): New Extension:GroupsSidebar. More information about this extension in mediawiki.org wiki. Requires r59215 to work. 22:07 < Hendo001> my webhost stuff uses cpanel 22:07 < Alphos> i never did an unclean install ^^' 22:07 < Alphos> ugh 22:07 -!- zrh [n=zrh@dynamic-80-242-196-229.catv.glattnet.ch] has left #mediawiki [] 22:07 -!- Church_of_emacs [n=CoE@wikipedia/Church-of-emacs] has joined #mediawiki 22:08 < Hendo001> yeah i know :S 22:08 -!- apergos [n=ariel@wiktionary/ArielGlenn] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:08 -!- Bamieater [i=Melvin@freenode/sponsor/bamieater] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:10 < CIA-66> catrope * r59217 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/EditToolbar/ (EditToolbar.hooks.php EditToolbar.php): wmf-deployment: Forgot some files in the last merge 22:11 -!- Guest14942 is now known as klutometis 22:11 < Alphos> hm 22:11 -!- NeKit [i=nekit@95-83-18-157.saransk.ru] has left #mediawiki ["\u0414\u043e\u043b\u0433\u043e \u0434\u0443\u043c\u0430\u043b, \u0447\u0442\u043e \u0436\u0435 \u0432\u0441\u0442\u0430\u0432\u0438\u0442\u044c \u0441\u044e\u0434\u0430... \u0422\u0430\u043a \u043d\u0438\u0447\u0435\u0433\u043e \u0438 \u043d\u0435 \u043f\u0440\u0438\u0434\u0443\u043c\u0430\u043b, \u043f\u043e\u044d\u0442\u043e\u043c\u0443 ] 22:12 < Alphos> i'd feel a little more confident if you backed up everything 22:12 < Hendo001> yeah i can do a full backup with phpmyadmin though right? 22:12 < Alphos> nope, sadly no 22:12 < Alphos> phpmyadmin doesn't really manage BLOB 22:12 < Hendo001> what else can i use to back up my db? 22:13 < Alphos> mysqldump :D 22:13 < Alphos> oh hold on a sec 22:13 < Alphos> maybe phpyadmin does treat blobs on export 22:13 < Hendo001> yeah but where do i get that? 22:13 < Alphos> lemme check that 22:13 < Hendo001> kk 22:13 < Alphos> mysqldump is a shell tool 22:14 < Amgine> Oh, I gotta say it.... there's an ap for that. 22:14 < Hendo001> i dont has shell access 22:15 < Alphos> which version of PMA do you have ? 22:15 -!- Laura|Away is now known as LauraHale 22:15 < Hendo001> pma? 22:15 < Alphos> phpmyadmin 22:15 < Hendo001> oh 22:15 < Hendo001> phpMyAdmin - 2.11.9.5 22:15 < Hendo001> according to the phpmyadmin page 22:16 < Alphos> ok great 22:16 < Alphos> 2.11 does manage blobs when using export 22:16 < Hendo001> it will export the tables n stuff we need? 22:16 < Alphos> (so it seems) 22:16 < Hendo001> we can always try :) 22:16 < Alphos> go to you database in phpmyadmin 22:16 < Hendo001> theres not that much data in the wiki anyways 22:16 < Alphos> (by clicking on the left colmn) 22:16 < Hendo001> not that 6-10 hours of typing wouldnt back up 22:17 < Hendo001> yeah 22:17 < Alphos> and click on "export" 22:17 -!- Tim-away is now known as TimStarling 22:17 < Hendo001> so click on my db as i have like 30 of them lol 22:17 < Hendo001> then click export on my wiki db done 22:18 < Alphos> choose "SQL" in the format 22:18 < Hendo001> its already set :) 22:18 < CIA-66> werdna * r59218 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/Thread.php: 22:18 < CIA-66> LiquidThreads: fix bug in bulk loading whereby replies would not be properly 22:18 < CIA-66> loaded if a middle-tier thread was not being loaded if its top-level thread was 22:18 < CIA-66> not being bulk-loaded. Fixes bug in which thread permalinks would be missing 22:18 < CIA-66> replies. I still would like to find out why those replies were not bulk-loaded 22:18 < Alphos> and select all tables 22:18 < CIA-66> beforehand, though. 22:18 < Hendo001> all selected :) 22:18 < Hendo001> u can go a bit faster if u want alphos :) 22:19 < Alphos> ok 22:19 -!- Bamieater [i=Melvin@freenode/sponsor/bamieater] has joined #mediawiki 22:19 < Hendo001> so far it has in the options section its default ticked is structure 22:19 < Alphos> tick "Structure" "IF NOT EXISTS" "AUTOINCREMENT" "protect table names" 22:20 < Hendo001> Enclose table and field names with backquotes that 1 right? 22:20 < Alphos> tick also "Data" "complete" "extended" "hexdec for blobs" 22:20 < Alphos> and this should be enough :) 22:20 < Hendo001> already ticked 22:20 < Alphos> you can then validate that 22:20 < Hendo001> cool 22:21 < Alphos> (clicking on "execute" at the bottom right) 22:21 < Hendo001> export type is set to insert is that right too? 22:21 < Alphos> yup 22:21 -!- Skizzerz [n=skizzerz@mediawiki/Skizzerz] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:21 < Hendo001> cool 22:21 < Alphos> (doesn't really matter here) 22:21 < Hendo001> should i zip it up? or not bother with compression? 22:21 < Alphos> don't 22:21 < Hendo001> rgr 22:22 < Alphos> otherwise you would need a shell access ^^' 22:22 < Hendo001> i've started th ebackup 22:22 < Alphos> ok 22:22 < Alphos> should take a few secs 22:22 < Hendo001> my typing sucks lol 22:22 < Alphos> possibly a minute 22:22 < Hendo001> yeah now i need to copy/paste into notepad right? 22:22 < Alphos> (the problem is the size of the generated query) 22:22 < Alphos> NOOOOO ! 22:22 < Alphos> not notepad XD 22:23 < Alphos> notepad++ 22:23 < Hendo001> yeah i have that :) 22:23 < Alphos> ok great 22:23 < Alphos> save it as is 22:23 * Hendo001 isnt a noob honest :) 22:23 < Alphos> you'd be amazed 22:23 < Hendo001> i know its great little tool 22:23 < Alphos> ok, now that this is done 22:23 < Hendo001> so just copy n paste n save it 22:24 < Alphos> yup 22:24 < Alphos> use Ctrl-A to select all 22:24 < Hendo001> yeah i did 22:24 < Hendo001> :) 22:24 < Hendo001> tis done :) 22:24 < Alphos> good ^^ 22:24 < CIA-66> werdna * r59219 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/LiquidThreads_alpha/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Update LiquidThreads to trunk state 22:24 < Hendo001> now to go install the stuff again 22:24 < Alphos> ok, so, now that this is done 22:24 < Alphos> yep 22:24 < Hendo001> cool 22:24 < Hendo001> wont take long... 22:25 < Hendo001> i hope 22:25 < Alphos> create a directory /w/ in your document root 22:25 -!- RoanKattouw [n=chatzill@mediawiki/Catrope] has quit ["zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"] 22:25 < Hendo001> so in my sto-database make a dir called w 22:25 < Hendo001> right? 22:25 -!- Skizzerz [n=skizzerz@skizzerz.resnet.tamu.edu] has joined #mediawiki 22:25 < Alphos> dunno which "plan" you have 22:25 < Hendo001> i'm making sure i do this right lol 22:25 < Hendo001> i dont have a plan 22:25 < Alphos> i imagine you have a free account 22:25 < Hendo001> just following what u say 22:26 < Hendo001> free account ? 22:26 < Alphos> "plan" as in contract plan with the webspace provider ;) 22:26 < Hendo001> oh i have a web host 22:26 < Alphos> free one ? 22:26 < Hendo001> i got cpanel n i can make unlimited subdomains sql databases etc 22:26 < Hendo001> nah 22:26 < Alphos> otherwise i'd say it's in /var/www :D 22:26 -!- kevindanko [n=Kevindan@205.232.42.46] has quit [] 22:26 < Hendo001> its a shared hosting 22:26 < Alphos> ok 22:27 < Alphos> well, create /w/ right where you put mediawiki once 22:27 < Hendo001> on my ftp i get the www folder and i get a public_html 22:27 * Alphos blinks 22:27 < Hendo001> does it matter which way round i go? 22:27 < Alphos> ok, so where did you put mediawiki the first time ? 22:27 -!- stephan48 [n=rjp@pdpc/supporter/student/stephan48] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:27 < Hendo001> public_html/sto-database 22:27 < Alphos> in www or in public_html ? 22:28 -!- mooo_ [i=bd66a637@gateway/web/freenode/x-xwiyabwpxnrxzeoo] has joined #mediawiki 22:28 < Alphos> ok 22:28 < Alphos> create public_html/sto-database/w/ 22:28 < Hendo001> it ends up being the same place i think tbh 22:28 < Alphos> create it that way though 22:28 < Alphos> we'll know it works ^^' 22:29 < mooo_> is there a show all pages, sorted by edit time? 22:29 < Hendo001> cool alphos i'm just moving the wiki software to a backupfolder i mean the stuff already there 22:29 < Alphos> mooo_ : [[Special:RecentChanges]] ? 22:29 < Hendo001> or should i move it into the w folder? 22:29 < Alphos> nope, don't move it 22:29 < Hendo001> or just reupload a clean copy? 22:29 < Alphos> upload a clean copy 22:30 < Hendo001> so delete my current stuff right? 22:30 < Alphos> not right now 22:30 < Hendo001> ok just upload clean copy to w 22:30 < Hendo001> gotya 22:30 < mooo_> recentchanges shows the individual edits 22:30 < Alphos> yup 22:30 < Alphos> mooo_ : you can use a gadget to group them by page 22:31 < Hendo001> alphos this might take a while :( 22:31 < Hendo001> my upload sucks esp coz bt keep slapping me with a fup limit :( 22:31 < Alphos> Hendo001 : don't forget to set the permissions right, and do the usuall install 22:32 < Hendo001> yeah the local config file after its installed right? 22:32 < Alphos> Hendo001 : that's why a shell account is soooo much better 22:32 < Hendo001> i usually cmod it so no public editing 22:32 < Hendo001> yeah i cant afford that atm :( 22:32 < Hendo001> shared hosting is what i got :( 22:33 * Alphos has a dedicated server, 35 euros/month : expensive, but feels almost like home :) 22:33 < Hendo001> http://www.hostony.com/ is whom i'm with 22:33 < Hendo001> atm i'm not working so i cant afford it :( otherwise i would :) 22:34 < Alphos> anyway 22:34 -!- gtpod [i=gtpod@80-254-76-240.dynamic.swissvpn.net] has joined #mediawiki 22:34 < Alphos> once you've installed everything, you'll have to see if the main page is what it used to be 22:34 < Hendo001> on the co.uk/w page? 22:34 < Alphos> otherwise you'll have to run the query you've copy-pasted 22:34 < Alphos> yup 22:34 < gtpod> hi, i'm looking for a solution to the problem with google chrome beta showing wiki sidebars below the main body, has there been a fix devised yet? 22:34 < Hendo001> will do 22:35 < Platonides> gtpod, is it on all wikis? 22:35 < gtpod> all wikis that haven't accommodated the problem, yeah 22:35 -!- yoyo[RKN] [n=Miranda@i577B64DA.versanet.de] has quit ["Use your power www.rechenkraft.net"] 22:36 -!- nickzxcv_ [i=nick@schmalenberger.us] has joined #mediawiki 22:39 < Hendo001> so yeah my hosting plan lets me have shell access if i want it by the looks of it? 22:39 < Alphos> yup 22:39 < Hendo001> i never knew lol 22:39 < Alphos> ftp done ? 22:40 < Hendo001> nope :( 22:40 < Hendo001> looking at another 10-20 mins :( 22:40 < Hendo001> 890 files to go 22:40 < Alphos> wow 22:40 < Alphos> you should get a dsl :D 22:41 < Hendo001> i'm on asdl :( 22:41 < Hendo001> bt sucks 22:41 < Alphos> no, i meant one that works :p 22:41 < CIA-66> werdna * r59220 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (. classes/Thread.php): Merge r59218 22:41 < Hendo001> lol i'm kinda limited in my area 22:41 < Alphos> or better yet : ask for your shell account :p 22:41 < Alphos> you wouldn't have to ftp everything 22:41 < Hendo001> yeah i'll put in the request 22:41 < Alphos> just use wget and tar 22:42 < Alphos> sooooo much faster... 22:42 < Hendo001> :) 22:42 < Alphos> i don't even mention mysqldump... 22:42 < Hendo001> lol 22:44 -!- rainman-sr [n=rainman@user-544522c7.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:46 -!- mooo_ [i=bd66a637@gateway/web/freenode/x-xwiyabwpxnrxzeoo] has quit ["Page closed"] 22:48 -!- nickzxcv [i=nick@schmalenberger.us] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:51 -!- No1Viking [n=No1Vikin@h-20-197.A259.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit ["L"amnar"] 22:52 < CIA-66> raymond * r59221 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/WikiEditor/Modules/Toolbar/ (Toolbar.i18n.php Toolbar.js): 22:52 < CIA-66> Add missing messages for the existing idention icon 22:52 < CIA-66> What to do to create the .combined.js? 22:53 -!- Nikerabb1t [n=rabbit@mediawiki/Nikerabbit] has joined #mediawiki 22:55 -!- cps0 [n=cps0@200.142.118.30] has joined #mediawiki 22:57 < Hendo001> nearly uploaded alphos 22:57 < Alphos> ok 22:57 < Alphos> well you still have to install everything ;) 22:57 < Hendo001> i know :) 22:57 -!- Nifi [n=rabbit@mediawiki/Nikerabbit] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:57 -!- Nikerabb1t is now known as Nifi 22:59 < CIA-66> werdna * r59222 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/LiquidThreads_alpha/ (. classes/View.php jquery/js2.combined.js): Unmerge r59197, breaks without related core updates 23:00 < CIA-66> raymond * r59223 /trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Consistency tweaks for "IP address" 23:01 < Hendo001> ok alphos its installed 23:01 < Alphos> well, check if the main page is what it was 23:02 < Hendo001> yeah it looks the same 23:02 < Hendo001> i'm also checking a page with a table on it 23:02 < Hendo001> yep they look the same 23:02 < Alphos> ok :) 23:03 -!- dungodung|away is now known as dungodung 23:03 < Hendo001> next step? 23:03 < Alphos> you now have to follow instructions shown here : 23:03 < Alphos> !shorturl 23:03 < mwbot> To create simple URLs (such as the /wiki/PAGENAME style URLs on Wikimedia sites), follow the instructions at . There are instructions for most different webserver setups. If you have problems getting the rewrite rules to work, see !rewriteproblem 23:03 -!- Raymond_ is now known as Raymond_afk 23:03 < Alphos> and you should be fine 23:03 < Hendo001> i'll need my ssh access first right? 23:03 < Alphos> nope 23:03 < Hendo001> cool 23:03 < Alphos> all you need now is to create an htaccess :) 23:04 < Hendo001> ok... i havent done that before 23:04 < Alphos> it's all in the instructions ;) 23:04 < Hendo001> ok :) 23:06 < Hendo001> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access should i use these instuctions? or the others? 23:08 < Alphos> these would be better 23:08 < Hendo001> the no root access 1s? 23:08 < Hendo001> i'm a noob at this stuff lol 23:09 < Hendo001> i'm lost tbh 23:10 -!- Platonides [n=Platonid@wikipedia/Platonides] has quit [] 23:11 < Alphos> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/wiki/Page_title_--_no_root_access this one is just fine 23:11 -!- prefrontal [n=prefront@mist.colorado.edu] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 23:11 < Hendo001> ok 23:12 -!- prefrontal [n=prefront@mist.colorado.edu] has joined #mediawiki 23:13 -!- ialex [n=IAlex@mediawiki/ialex] has quit [] 23:13 < gtpod> excuse me if i ask again, but i did not receive a response initially, 23:13 < gtpod> i'm looking for a solution to the problem with google chrome beta showing wiki sidebars below the main body, has there been a fix devised yet? 23:15 < werdna> I think AryehGregor may know about that 23:17 -!- nn123645 [n=nn123645@adsl-074-237-227-159.sip.mco.bellsouth.net] has joined #mediawiki 23:18 < Hendo001> alphos do i add the htacess to my sto-dabase folder or the sto-database/w/ folder? 23:18 < Alphos> the document root Hendo001 23:19 < Alphos> sto-database i guess 23:19 < Hendo001> okies 23:20 -!- fanno [n=Morten@90.184.93.233] has quit ["Leaving."] 23:22 -!- Reedy [n=Reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has joined #mediawiki 23:22 < Alphos> Hendo001 : looks like you're missing mod_rewrite 23:22 < Hendo001> ok i did it and i uploaded it to the stodb folder 23:22 < AryehGregor> gtpod, it's fixed in 1.16. As a workaround, remove all contents from the file skins/monobook/KHTMLFixes.css. 23:22 < AryehGregor> (so it's empty) 23:22 < Hendo001> ok i'll go get that extention/mod 23:23 < AryehGregor> This is supposed to be fixed in WebKit, but I'm still seeing it for some wikis on Chrome's dev version. 23:24 < gtpod> excellent awesome and super-cool, thanks muchly 23:25 < AryehGregor> gtpod, https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28350 23:25 < Hendo001> alphos where would i get the rewrite mod? 23:25 < Alphos> good question... 23:26 < Alphos> on ssh i'd say a2enmod rewrite 23:26 < Hendo001> hmm 23:26 < gtpod> thanks again man, my wiki looks beautiful once more 23:26 < gtpod> cheers 23:26 -!- chomwitt [n=chomwitt@ppp-94-66-156-65.home.otenet.gr] has quit [Client Quit] 23:26 -!- gtpod [i=gtpod@80-254-76-240.dynamic.swissvpn.net] has quit [] 23:28 < Hendo001> alphos what ssh client would you reccomend? 23:28 < Alphos> considering you use notepad++, i guess you're on windows 23:28 < Hendo001> yeah i am 23:28 < Alphos> i strongly recommend putty 23:29 < Hendo001> ok 23:29 -!- SPQRobin [n=Robin@wikimedia/SPQRobin] has quit ["Leaving."] 23:29 < Alphos> i also recommend googling "activate mod_rewrite" ;) 23:29 -!- charitwo [n=charitwo@wikia/Charitwo] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:30 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@221.30.73-86.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #mediawiki 23:30 -!- Kaare is now known as KaareAway 23:31 < Alphos> i believe asking support on that from your webhost provider could be a good idea too 23:31 < Hendo001> ok 23:33 < Hendo001> do i need to edit the mod_rewrite on stodatabase or on my main public_html thing 23:36 < CIA-66> adam * r59224 /trunk/phase3/skins/vector/ (main-ltr.css main-rtl.css): Fixing a spacing issue with RTL langauges and the dropdown menu 23:36 < Alphos> you don't need to edit the mod_rewrite :D 23:36 < CIA-66> diana * r59225 /trunk/extensions/DonationInterface/payflowpro_gateway/payflowpro_gateway.body.php: add tracking field to transaction 23:36 < Alphos> but you need to activate wherever you see fit 23:37 < Hendo001> yeah and i dont know how to do that :s i'm still learning lol 23:37 < Hendo001> i mean where would i look to activate it 23:37 < Alphos> that would be a question for your host probider 23:37 < Alphos> *v 23:37 < Hendo001> ok :) 23:37 < Hendo001> thx 23:37 < Alphos> you're welcome :) 23:38 -!- yannf [n=yannf@wikipedia/yannf] has quit ["Like the Truth, I am elsewhere..."] 23:39 -!- FoeNyx [n=Nicolas@wikipedia/FoeNyx] has joined #mediawiki 23:40 -!- Saruman [n=jan@dworkin.saruman.biz] has quit ["bedtime here"] 23:42 < Hendo001> the dude on my support is saying mod_rewrite is already active on the server 23:43 < Hendo001> alphos what do i do now? or am i good to go? 23:43 < Alphos> obviously it's not active 23:43 < Alphos> did you use /wiki as an alias ? 23:44 < Hendo001> erm alias to where? 23:44 < Hendo001> where would i put that etc? 23:44 < Hendo001> i just copied the instructions 23:45 < Alphos> did you copy the lines ? 23:45 < Hendo001> yes 23:45 < Alphos> RewriteRule ^wiki/(.*)$ /w/index.php?title=$1 [PT,L,QSA] and so on 23:45 < Hendo001> yes i copy/pasted them 23:46 < Alphos> well, then mod_rewrite is not active 23:46 < Hendo001> put it into a file n called it .htaccess 23:46 < Alphos> ok 23:46 < Hendo001> RewriteEngine On 23:46 < Hendo001> RewriteRule ^wiki/(.*)$ /w/index.php?title=$1 [PT,L,QSA] 23:46 < Hendo001> RewriteRule ^wiki/*$ /w/index.php [L,QSA] 23:46 < Hendo001> RewriteRule ^/*$ /w/index.php [L,QSA] 23:46 < Hendo001> thats what i copied 23:46 < Alphos> well, once again, that is a question for you webhost support 23:47 < Hendo001> kk 23:47 < Alphos> tell them your RewriteRules don't work 23:47 < Hendo001> kk 23:48 < Hendo001> hmm can u check it for me please alphos? 23:48 < Hendo001> www.sto-database.co.uk/w/ 23:48 < Alphos> works now 23:48 < Hendo001> oh its working right? i think i had namedthe htaccess file wrong lol 23:49 < Alphos> so 23:49 < wikibugs> (mod) Add "hide placeholder" - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20290 (JSchulz_4587) 23:49 < Alphos> missing c or missing s ? :) 23:49 < Hendo001> the c 23:49 < Hendo001> lol 23:49 < Alphos> anyway 23:49 < Alphos> your pages will be http://stodb/wiki/Page 23:50 < Alphos> http://www.sto-database.co.uk/wiki/Main_Page for example 23:50 < Hendo001> yeah 23:50 < Hendo001> weah 23:50 < Hendo001> yeah* 23:50 < Hendo001> it looks cool 23:50 < Hendo001> but really they are in stodatabase.co.uk/w/ 23:50 < Alphos> not really ^^ 23:50 < Hendo001> hmm? 23:50 < Alphos> they're actually in the database ;) 23:50 < Hendo001> sweet 23:51 < Alphos> and stodb/w/index.php?title=Page shows them 23:51 < Hendo001> cool 23:51 < Alphos> to be accurate 23:51 < Hendo001> so this makes it easier to skin the site n stuff? 23:51 -!- charitwo [n=charitwo@wikia/Charitwo] has joined #mediawiki 23:51 < Hendo001> and to customize the css n stuff 23:51 -!- Natalie [n=z@wikipedia/MZMcBride] has quit [Excess Flood] 23:51 < Alphos> when you go to stodb/wiki/Page, what you see is actually stodb/w/index.php?title=Page 23:51 * Hendo001 is still a noob and has to learn alot 23:51 < Alphos> not really 23:52 < Alphos> it's just a little cleaner 23:52 < Hendo001> cool 23:52 -!- Natalie [n=z@wikipedia/MZMcBride] has joined #mediawiki 23:52 < Alphos> giving an address like "stodb/wiki/Klingon" is much more user-friendly than stidb/w/index.php?title=Klingon" 23:52 < Hendo001> yeah it is 23:52 < Hendo001> thx for the help on this 23:53 < Alphos> or "stodb/index.php?title=Klingon" which you had before, for that matters 23:53 < Alphos> now, for the css 23:53 < Hendo001> its gonna make life alot easier 23:53 < Reedy> Anyone about who can link my svn account to my wiki account? ;) 23:53 < Reedy> please 23:54 < Alphos> the skin you currently use is the basic one, called Monobook 23:54 < Hendo001> yep :) 23:54 < AryehGregor> Reedy, both "Reedy"? 23:54 < Hendo001> i dunno what scouse was trying to do so i said i'd pick up the slack n show him how to do it when he has time and since i have the time i can learn and edit the site :) 23:54 < Alphos> if you wish to add css properties or alter them, you will have to alter the page located at stodb/wiki/MediaWiki:Monobook.css 23:54 < Reedy> AryehGregor, yup :) 23:55 < Alphos> if you wish to add/alter css properties for all skins on a wiki, you will have to alter the page located at stodb/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css 23:55 < Alphos> keep in mind these are wiki pages, not files 23:55 < AryehGregor> Reedy, you seem to be linked. 23:56 < Alphos> ie you will have to go to these pages with your browser 23:56 < Hendo001> the css pages are wiki pages not css files correct? 23:56 < Reedy> Ahh, presume Tim must've already done it then 23:56 -!- MaxSem [n=max@wikimedia/MaxSem] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 23:56 < Alphos> exactly Hendo001 23:56 < Hendo001> cool 23:56 < Hendo001> i've not really done much css anyways 23:56 < Alphos> once you're there with your browser, you'll be able to click on the "edit" link 23:56 < Alphos> well, css is looong and heavy to understand 23:57 < Reedy> Thanks anyway AryehGregor 23:57 < Alphos> but it most certainly is a powerful tool 23:57 < Hendo001> yes it is 23:57 < Hendo001> its adaptable 23:57 < Alphos> and perhaps IE will someday finally use it correctly :D 23:57 < Hendo001> rofl 23:58 < AryehGregor> IE8 has perfectly good CSS2.1 support, from what I've heard. 23:58 < AryehGregor> We have no IE8Fixes.css. 23:58 < AryehGregor> CSS has reached the point where we don't need hacks for the latest version of any browser, I think. 23:58 < Alphos> AryehGregor : 4-corner-problem ? 23:58 < AryehGregor> What? 23:59 < Alphos> one of the earliest css problems 23:59 < Alphos> how to put rounded corners with a css div ^^ --- Log closed Thu Nov 19 00:00:03 2009