--- Log opened Mon Nov 23 00:00:00 2009 --- Day changed Mon Nov 23 2009 00:00 < werdna> Preferably at least of variable quality, although poor quality is preferred 00:00 < TimStarling> did you see the libAddMedia commit? 00:00 < faceface> well... Its his happieness that is our true motivation 00:00 < TimStarling> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/59278 00:01 < werdna> Don't tell anyone, but Tim actually secretly gets a kick out of making fun of other people's code :) 00:01 < faceface> here is a not that great example of 'drill down' over data entered via a template: http://www.bioinformatics.org/wiki/Special:BrowseData 00:01 < faceface> there are better examples, but I work on the above 00:01 < Tyrannosau> quit thanks 00:01 -!- Tyrannosau [n=tyrannos@host86-155-165-188.range86-155.btcentralplus.com] has quit ["thanks"] 00:02 < werdna> TimStarling: that's a long commit 00:02 -!- Marco27 [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has quit ["'Notte! 'Night!"] 00:03 < faceface> TimStarling: the added ... er... well... the thing is that SMW comes hand in hand with at least three other extensions that we would like to get in MW.Org... 00:03 -!- Mike_lifeguard is now known as Mike||gone 00:03 < faceface> there is SMW itself, then a really cool extension called semantic forms. SF is actually really easy to use once you get the hang of it, and it creates a form for each template. 00:04 < TimStarling> by yaron koren? 00:04 < faceface> or rather, you configure it to allow form based template editing 00:04 < faceface> yeah 00:04 < faceface> here is an example, again, perhaps not the best, but another one of mine: 00:05 < TimStarling> I mostly know yaron from the security bugs of his that I've fixed 00:05 -!- Brian_S [n=dabtd@wikipedia/Bsadowski1] has joined #mediawiki 00:05 < TimStarling> if nobody has reviewed SF for security then it probably has a ton of them 00:05 < Brian_S> Does the RSS feed usually display OSed content? 00:05 < faceface> Right... he is an extreem programmer... 00:06 < faceface> TimStarling: exciting! 00:06 < faceface> Basically, I think a code review would be very welcome from the SMW / SF / SRF / SD devs... 00:07 < faceface> is probably not more than 100k lines... 00:07 < werdna> 100kloc is a lot of code to review 00:07 < faceface> here is that form demo... http://seqanswers.com/w/index.php?title=Dummy_application&action=formedit 00:07 < faceface> I'm probably exagerating 00:07 < werdna> the whole of mediawiki is 500kloc 00:08 -!- Daedalus969 [n=Daedalus@unaffiliated/daedalus969] has joined #mediawiki 00:08 < faceface> but TimStarling is a machine according to what I heard on the streets... 00:09 < faceface> without logging in to the above site, what you don't see is the nifty autocompletion on each field that makes user input much more standardized. 00:09 < werdna> 50kloc is about right, from my quick check 00:10 < faceface> werdna: did you check all 4 of the above extensions? 00:10 < faceface> or just SMW? 00:10 < werdna> andrew-macbook:extensions andrew$ for ext in Semantic*; do find $ext -name '*.php' | xargs cat | wc -l; done 00:10 -!- SB_Johnny [n=SB_Johnn@c-98-235-177-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [] 00:11 < faceface> awesome 00:12 < faceface> well, the thing is, the devs just got back from there SMW camp, and now they are all excited about pushing the project. Using SMW on MW.Org would be a massive step in that direction. So anything they can do to help that process... 00:12 -!- Bryan [n=launch@wikimedia-commons/Bryan] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 00:13 < faceface> cheers 00:15 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@wikipedia/duesentrieb] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 00:15 -!- faceface [i=4d67c829@gateway/web/freenode/x-omhdzanpubspxqzy] has left #mediawiki [] 00:17 < TimStarling> faceface_: I just opened the source of a random special page and found an XSS vulnerability in about 10 seconds 00:18 < TimStarling> it's persistent: http://www.bioinformatics.org/wiki/Special:CreateForm 00:21 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@221.30.73-86.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #mediawiki 00:25 < Platonides> I see the " onclick="alert("hello"); inside the combo 00:25 -!- Prodego [n=Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 00:25 < TimStarling> yeah, now click on that option 00:25 < TimStarling> it works as advertised 00:25 < Platonides> at last 00:25 < Platonides> the event wasn't firing 00:25 < TimStarling> does anyone know faceface's user name? 00:26 < TimStarling> on any wiki? 00:27 -!- AryehGregor [n=Simetric@mediawiki/simetrical] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:27 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@221.30.73-86.rev.gaoland.net] has quit ["Quitte"] 00:28 < wikibugs> (mod) Search in yi: should ignore diacritics and identify ligatures - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18764 (wiki.pedia) 00:28 < Platonides> he's probably User:Admin on bioinformatics.org 00:29 -!- Platonides [n=Platonid@wikipedia/Platonides] has quit [] 00:29 < TimStarling> no email address 00:30 < TimStarling> never mind, it was in /whois 00:31 -!- yannf [n=yannf@wikipedia/yannf] has quit ["Like the Truth, I am elsewhere..."] 00:42 -!- Prodego [n=Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego] has joined #mediawiki 00:43 -!- Mike||gone is now known as Mike_lifeguard 00:44 -!- hippietrail [n=chatzill@CPE-121-210-48-101.bqcz1.ken.bigpond.net.au] has joined #mediawiki 00:45 < hippietrail> anyone here have any luck using a full history dump with 7z via pipes? 00:45 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59348 /trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/mediawiki-defines.txt: Update optionals 00:47 < jdpond> TimStarling: I've been using SMW and SF extensively - absolutely love it, but not sure it's ready for prime time, performance and security issues (I've stumbled across, and corrected several myself). 00:54 -!- Brian_S [n=dabtd@wikipedia/Bsadowski1] has left #mediawiki [] 00:55 -!- JC [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.15/2009101601]"] 00:56 -!- JC [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has joined #mediawiki 00:58 -!- AryehGregor [n=Simetric@mediawiki/simetrical] has joined #mediawiki 01:09 -!- dungodung is now known as dungodung|sleep 01:13 -!- andi_ [n=andi@pD9FF5579.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:16 -!- Dantman is now known as Dantman|afk 01:18 -!- slavepersona [n=Jesse@wikimedia/Pathoschild] has joined #mediawiki 01:19 -!- Kanor| [n=kanor@dslb-084-058-136-243.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 01:20 -!- Pathoschild [n=Jesse@wikimedia/Pathoschild] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 01:24 -!- recalcati [i=5d90f1b6@gateway/web/freenode/x-kdpeduhlrahiyfxl] has joined #mediawiki 01:25 < recalcati> hi all, I have a strange pb. I can't login to my wiki. I realy don't change anything. any idea? 01:25 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has quit ["Some people are like slinkies. 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I ask them 01:49 < TimStarling> when you created the new user did you use "remember me"? 01:50 -!- infinisoft [i=infiniso@r70h97.res.gatech.edu] has joined #mediawiki 01:50 -!- Pinky49 is now known as Pinky 01:52 -!- AzaToth [n=azatoth@wikipedia/AzaToth] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:52 < wikibugs> (mod) safe referencing the newest version of page using one of its history id - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21572 (gangleri) 01:54 -!- qq[IrcCity] [n=qq@broadband-77-37-208-134.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:56 -!- Church_of_emacs [n=CoE@wikipedia/Church-of-emacs] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:57 -!- charitwo [n=charitwo@wikia/Charitwo] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:58 -!- charitwo [n=charitwo@wikia/Charitwo] has joined #mediawiki 02:02 -!- juliano[away] is now known as juliano 02:03 -!- cps0 [n=cps0@189-69-131-102.dial-up.telesp.net.br] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 02:03 -!- Hosiryuhosi [n=Hosiryuh@wikipedia/Hosiryuhosi] has joined #MediaWiki 02:03 < wikibugs> (mod) safe referencing the newest version of page using one of its history id - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21572 (gangleri) 02:08 -!- foksieloy [n=Miranda@78-1-149-157.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:12 -!- juliano [n=juliano@mediawiki/Juliano] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:19 -!- phyrex1an [n=phyrex1a@bumik.csbnet.se] has quit ["Leaving."] 02:21 -!- sydd [n=forszma@catv-80-99-177-176.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #mediawiki 02:21 -!- recalcati [i=5d90f1b6@gateway/web/freenode/x-kdpeduhlrahiyfxl] has quit ["Page closed"] 02:23 -!- Reedy_ [n=Reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has joined #mediawiki 02:23 -!- Reedy_ [n=Reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:24 -!- Reedy [n=kvirc@77.86.75.121] has quit [Client Quit] 02:24 -!- Reedy [n=kvirc@77.86.75.121] has joined #mediawiki 02:24 < sydd> hi i have some questions about exporting pages from wikipedia. Has anyone time to answer them? 02:25 < AryehGregor> !ask | sydd 02:25 < mwbot> sydd: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. See also: !gethelp 02:26 -!- Reedy [n=kvirc@77.86.75.121] has quit [Client Quit] 02:27 -!- Reedy [n=Reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has joined #mediawiki 02:29 < sydd> okay.. i need to get the "article" namespace only from an article( i think thats the correct expression), for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Export/1241 , how do i do that? 02:30 < jdpond> Magic word {{NAMESPACE}}? 02:32 < sydd> how do i make a query specifying a namespace? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Export/1241/NAMESPACE:4 does not seem to work 02:33 < Reedy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Export/Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser 02:33 -!- Suiseiseki [n=desudesu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:33 -!- Suiseiseki [n=desudesu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has joined #mediawiki 02:34 -!- Reedy [n=Reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has quit ["KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 3472, sources date: 20090703, built on: 2009/09/02 21:14:09 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/"] 02:37 < sydd> thanks, ill check autoWikiBrowser out 02:39 -!- sydd [n=forszma@catv-80-99-177-176.catv.broadband.hu] has left #mediawiki [] 02:42 -!- j^_ [n=j@e179078218.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #mediawiki 02:44 -!- MarkDilley [n=MarkDill@c-76-27-236-154.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #Mediawiki 02:45 < MarkDilley> I am stumped on something - I am trying to redirect an image (now in the file namespace) to a wiki page in the main namespace. can someone direct me? here is an example: http://wiki.ussf2010.org/wiki/File:TwitterIcon.png 02:45 -!- BradLee [n=chatzill@CPE-121-214-97-81.lnse4.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #mediawiki 02:53 -!- carl-m|away is now known as carl-m 02:59 -!- j^ [n=j@e179079188.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:05 < wikibugs> (mod) Enable odp on Meta-Wiki - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21594 +shell (sam) 03:07 -!- ans-tot1222 [n=sysadmin@118.174.34.244.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net] has joined #mediawiki 03:11 -!- Shown [n=Miranda@87.13.208.186] has quit [Client Quit] 03:11 -!- JW|AFK is now known as Jake_Wartenberg 03:11 -!- Diamant005 [n=user6398@p579CAB20.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mediawiki 03:12 -!- carl-m is now known as carl-m|away 03:18 -!- Diamant004 [n=user6398@p579CA9C8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 03:18 -!- Anandawardhana [n=AW@124.43.52.67] has joined #mediawiki 03:23 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has quit ["Some people are like slinkies. They're not good for anything except pushing them down stairs."] 03:30 -!- DuTempete [n=chatzill@76-234-42-15.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #mediawiki 03:31 < TimStarling> MarkDilley: I guess it was broken by the image redirect feature 03:31 < TimStarling> what version are you using? 03:31 < MarkDilley> Tim - can you point me to a url describing issue 03:31 < MarkDilley> looking 03:32 < MarkDilley> TimStarling: 1.15.0 03:34 -!- DuTempete [n=chatzill@76-234-42-15.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Client Quit] 03:35 -!- DuTempete [n=chatzill@76-234-42-15.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #mediawiki 03:36 -!- [[sroracle]] [n=sroracle@unaffiliated/sroracle] has quit [""] 03:38 -!- Anandawardhana [n=AW@124.43.52.67] has quit [] 03:39 < DuTempete> Where is "Generated User CSS" coming from? 03:39 -!- Raymond__ [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has joined #mediawiki 03:39 < TimStarling> looks like it's deliberate 03:40 < TimStarling> // ... and the article is not a non-redirect image page with associated file 03:40 < TimStarling> !( is_object( $file ) && $file->exists() && !$file->getRedirected() ) ) 03:42 < MarkDilley> TimStarling: 03:42 < MarkDilley> not sure what you mean? 03:42 < MarkDilley> TimStarling: it is deliberate in the code? 03:44 -!- enhydra` [i=kalan@seaotter.silentflame.com] has joined #mediawiki 03:45 -!- paulr [n=paul@static.147.84.46.78.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:45 -!- paulr [n=paul@static.147.84.46.78.clients.your-server.de] has joined #mediawiki 03:45 -!- enhydra [n=kalan@wikimedia/Kalan] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:46 < TimStarling> I'm annotating 03:46 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has joined #mediawiki 03:46 < MarkDilley> ok 03:48 < TimStarling> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/29985 03:49 < TimStarling> so it's been like that for almost 2 years 03:49 < TimStarling> no way to configure it 03:51 < TimStarling> vvv: any comment? 03:57 -!- Raymond_afk [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 03:58 < MarkDilley> ah - so because I have been on a old version of the wiki, I haven't noticed it then 04:02 < TimStarling> note that there's a new feature that lets you link to an arbitrary page when you click on an embedded image 04:02 < TimStarling> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_markup#Link 04:03 < TimStarling> so you can use that now instead of redirects 04:06 < MarkDilley> ok, thanks! 04:06 < MarkDilley> will learn that Tim, I appreciate that 04:06 -!- qsheets [n=qsheets@wikimedia/qsheets] has joined #mediawiki 04:07 < wikibugs> (mod) New login bastion host fenari setup not yet complete - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20787 +comment (JSchulz_4587) 04:12 -!- Dantman|afk [n=dantman@wikia/dantman] has quit ["http://daniel.friesen.name or ELSE!"] 04:13 -!- carl-m|away is now known as carl-m 04:14 < MarkDilley> TimStarling: - thanks - that is very elegant 04:19 < qsheets> Any way I could could extract the wiki syntax from MediaWiki? 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This doesn't help against new spam pages though 07:18 < Skizzerz> although there is a Delete Pages Permanantly extension that would work for that purpose 07:19 < wikibugs> (mod) An List for Asian Chapters - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21600 (jerry.tschan.yu) 07:19 < Skizzerz> and finally, I'd recommend also installing the AbsenteeLandlord extension so that if you wiki admins stop visiting again the wiki will auto-lock itself 07:20 < saiyr> i upgraded and added the spam blacklist so hopefully that helps, i'll look into that extension as well 07:21 < saiyr> dunno if i feel like reverting all of these pages though, maybe i'll bug someone else to do it 07:24 -!- jMyles [n=justin@75-145-248-101-Connecticut.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:25 -!- Pathoschild is now known as slavie|away 07:27 -!- JC [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 07:28 -!- Daedalus969 [n=Daedalus@unaffiliated/daedalus969] has quit ["There is no escaping reason, no denying purpose, because as we both know, without purpose, we would not exist. 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I thought it was only used to create links, but it seems like there's more than that 09:44 -!- Witzman [n=witzman@outgoing.e-tecture.com] has joined #mediawiki 09:44 -!- sven^_ is now known as Sven^ 09:46 -!- Sven^ [n=quassel@squint.a-oben.org] has quit ["http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere."] 09:46 -!- sven^ [n=quassel@squint.a-oben.org] has joined #mediawiki 09:48 < Natalie> !wg ArticlePath 09:48 < mwbot> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgArticlePath 09:53 -!- faceface_ is now known as faceface 09:53 < faceface> TimStarling: are you still awake? 09:54 < faceface> Thanks for the email 09:55 < faceface> How about starting with SMW core extension? I.e. ignore SF / SRF / SD for the time being. 09:55 < faceface> I think the core has had several independant developers and is a lot more mature than other extensions like SF. 09:56 < faceface> SF is basically just Yaron 09:56 < faceface> but in any case, I'll point out your observations to the devs. 09:56 < faceface> Thanks again for your help 10:02 -!- Church_of_emacs [n=CoE@wikipedia/Church-of-emacs] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:02 -!- Bryan [n=launch@wikimedia-commons/Bryan] has joined #mediawiki 10:04 < Bryan> morning 10:04 -!- rainman-sr [n=rainman@84.69.34.199] has joined #mediawiki 10:05 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@217.234.197.59] has joined #mediawiki 10:07 < faceface> morning 10:09 < wikibugs> (mod) Search in yi: should ignore diacritics and identify ligatures - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18764 (rainman) 10:13 < faceface> TimStarling: or anyone, where are the security guidelines spelled out? 10:13 -!- liot [n=liot@AVelizy-153-1-25-17.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #mediawiki 10:14 < faceface> Developer_hub? 10:14 -!- rainman-sr [n=rainman@84.69.34.199] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:15 < faceface> I can't find a section on security guidelines for MW devs anywhere 10:16 < Bryan> !security 10:16 < mwbot> The manual page on MediaWiki security can be found at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Security. If you believe you have found a security problem in MediaWiki or in one of Wikimedia's web sites, please contact security@wikimedia.org directly so we can prepare a bug fix release. 10:17 < Natalie> faceface: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Security_for_developers 10:17 < Natalie> Morning. 10:17 < Bryan> yeah that one 10:17 < faceface> thanks guys, I'll point 'security guidelines' there 10:18 < faceface> You're NOT on Wikipedia or your home wiki! ;-) 10:19 < faceface> doh... once you found it you find how you should have found it 10:24 -!- liot [n=liot@AVelizy-153-1-25-17.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #mediawiki ["Konversation terminated!"] 10:27 -!- ecstasia is now known as ecs 10:38 < wikibugs> (NEW) Code review for use of SMW in MediaWiki.Org - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21602 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (dan.bolser) 10:47 -!- j^_ [n=j@e179078218.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 10:49 -!- _s_k_y_v2 [n=Red@70.95.187.195] has joined #mediawiki 10:51 < Bryan> werdna: already awake? 10:53 < wikibugs> (NEW) links broken in IE5 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21603 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: UsabilityInitiative; (hartman) 10:55 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@152.81.13.143] has joined #mediawiki 10:55 -!- HeXiLeD [n=H3X@unaffiliated/hexiled] has joined #mediawiki 11:03 < wikibugs> (NEW) Spellcheck attribute for editsummary - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21604 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (hartman) 11:04 < werdna> Bryan: I am now 11:06 < Bryan> ah morning 11:08 < Bryan> I'm thinking about adding the namespace_id to the globalimagelinks table 11:08 < Bryan> without index for now, but just for future use 11:08 < Bryan> it would mean though that either the table needs to be altered or we just drop the entire table and start over again 11:09 < werdna> either works 11:09 -!- Melos [n=Melos@wikimedia/Melos] has quit ["brb"] 11:12 < Duesentrieb> \o/ yay :) 11:12 < Duesentrieb> Bryan: but... without index? why? 11:13 < Bryan> because I don't know the proper index yet? 11:13 < CIA-66> btongminh * r59349 /trunk/extensions/GlobalUsage/ (GlobalUsage.pg.sql GlobalUsage.sql GlobalUsage_body.php): Schema change: add page_namespace_id to table definition 11:16 < Bryan> if you have a suggestion :) 11:19 < wikibugs> (mod) Search in yi: should ignore diacritics and identify ligatures - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18764 (wiki.pedia) 11:19 -!- MarkDilley [n=MarkDill@c-76-27-236-154.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [] 11:23 < CIA-66> werdna * r59350 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/Hooks.php: LiquidThreads: only customise new messages prompt if the new messages are on a LiquidThreads page. 11:23 -!- rainman-sr [n=rainman@flywall.sysbiol.cam.ac.uk] has joined #mediawiki 11:23 < CIA-66> werdna * r59351 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/newmessages.js: Remove debugging code ;) 11:25 -!- silentNinja [n=mooo@41.203.24.140] has joined #mediawiki 11:25 < silentNinja> quick beginner question: how to redirect? 11:26 < wikibugs> (mod) Please enable the deleterevision right for the sysop group on en.wiki - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21165 +comment (wikipedia_emails-nachfrage) 11:26 < wikibugs> (mod) Enable RevisionDelete on WMF wikis for admins - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18780 (wikipedia_emails-nachfrage) 11:26 < silentNinja> nvm 11:31 -!- Hosiryuhosi is now known as Hosiryuhosi_afk 11:33 -!- Olipro [n=Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.active.olipro] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:34 -!- Bryan is now known as Bryan|away 11:35 < CIA-66> werdna * r59352 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/LiquidThreads_alpha/ (11 files in 5 dirs): Update LiquidThreads to trunk state 11:39 -!- AntiSpamMeta [n=MetaBot@unaffiliated/afterdeath/bot/antispambot] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 11:40 -!- AntiSpamMeta [n=MetaBot@unaffiliated/afterdeath/bot/antispambot] has joined #mediawiki 11:43 < wikibugs> (NEW) LiquidThreads: "This message has been edited" should have history link and last modified date - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21605 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (agarrett) 11:44 -!- silentNinja [n=mooo@41.203.24.140] has left #mediawiki [] 11:46 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@152.81.13.143] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:48 < CIA-66> werdna * r59353 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/pages/NewUserMessagesView.php: LiquidThreads: use the correct path for newmessages.js 11:48 -!- Merlissimo [n=Merlissi@wikimedia/Merlissimo] has joined #mediawiki 11:48 < CIA-66> werdna * r59354 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/LiquidThreads_alpha/ (. pages/NewUserMessagesView.php): Merge r59353 11:57 -!- Bryan|away is now known as Bryan 11:59 < Bryan> werdna: were you still planning to rollout globalusage today? 11:59 < werdna> I guess I was 12:00 < Bryan> and are you still ? :) 12:00 < CIA-66> werdna * r59355 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/LiquidThreads/i18n/ (. Lqt.i18n.php): Merge new messages from trunk 12:00 < werdna> I guess I am 12:06 -!- p858snake|3 [n=p858snak@ppp118-208-44-179.lns20.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #mediawiki 12:08 < Bryan> I guess I'm gone in 40 minutes, so if you want me to be available for fixing stuff we should do it now 12:08 -!- Melos [n=Melos@wikimedia/Melos] has joined #mediawiki 12:10 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:10 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has joined #mediawiki 12:13 -!- p858snake_ [n=p858snak@unaffiliated/p858snake] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 12:14 -!- Papertiger [i=tiger@e180064117.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #mediawiki 12:14 -!- Papiertiger [i=tiger@e180064117.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:18 < werdna> Bryan: are you available tonight? 12:18 -!- Pathoschild is now known as slavie|away 12:19 < Bryan> only between 6 and 8 CET 12:19 < werdna> so 5 and 7 crazy british time 12:20 < werdna> I think that may make more sense 12:20 -!- domas [n=midom@wikipedia/Midom] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:20 -!- Church_of_emacs [n=CoE@wikipedia/Church-of-emacs] has joined #mediawiki 12:20 < wikibugs> (mod) logo for ace wikipedia - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21213 +comment (hercule.wikipedia) 12:24 -!- Bamie_ [i=Melvin@53566C45.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:24 -!- Bamieater [i=Melvin@freenode/sponsor/bamieater] has joined #mediawiki 12:28 -!- phyrex1an [n=phyrex1a@95.80.47.90] has joined #mediawiki 12:28 -!- phyrex1an [n=phyrex1a@95.80.47.90] has left #mediawiki ["Leaving."] 12:32 -!- mangel [n=mangel@62.Red-80-59-8.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #mediawiki 12:36 -!- Daworm [i=76d17970@wikia/Daworm] has joined #mediawiki 12:36 < Daworm> Hey all. I've recently just moved hosts from a VPS to a dedicated server. Got everything running again on it (wordpress and and a forums) 12:36 < Daworm> however the wiki i had installed just comes up with a blank white page 12:37 < Daworm> there was an error (forgot to fix database pass) but that's fine now. 12:37 < Daworm> Any tips to what I should look for ? 12:37 < Natalie> !blankpage 12:37 < mwbot> A blank page usually indicates a fatal PHP error. For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see . 12:37 < Daworm> ty Natalie 12:38 < Daworm> hurm. Looks like the foreign API repo broke somehow.... 12:39 < werdna> how? 12:40 < Daworm> not sure. Commented out the whole section 12:40 < Daworm> now it's back to a simple blank white page with no error 12:40 < Daworm> ... 12:40 < Bryan> error_reporting(E_ALL); ini_set('display_errors', 'on'); 12:41 < Daworm> here's the error otherwise: Fatal error: Call to undefined function json_decode() in /home/website/public_html/ns2wiki/includes/filerepo/ForeignAPIRepo.php on line 105 12:41 < Bryan> on top of your localsettings 12:41 < Daworm> yup 12:41 < Daworm> I'll add the rest of those error checks 12:41 < Daworm> SQl errors etc. 12:41 < Daworm> 1 sec 12:41 < Bryan> odd "As of PHP 5.2.0, the JSON extension is bundled and compiled into PHP by default. " 12:41 < Bryan> unless you compiled php with --disable-json 12:42 < Natalie> Or he's running 5.1? 12:42 < werdna> or 5.0 12:42 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has joined #mediawiki 12:43 < Daworm> err. not sure what php I'm on. 12:43 < Daworm> 5 something 12:43 < Daworm> but I saw my error 12:43 -!- ZioCorto [i=c1cedc02@gateway/web/freenode/x-qhohfjbfkvhglmpq] has quit ["Page closed"] 12:43 < Daworm> forgot to comment out ); after the api repo 12:43 < Daworm> :) 12:43 < Natalie> :-) 12:43 < Daworm> missed by this | | much... 12:44 < Bryan> anyways, gonna go to the wonderful world of spacecraft dynamics 12:44 < Bryan> see ya 12:44 -!- Bryan [n=launch@wikimedia-commons/Bryan] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 12:49 < Daworm> appears I have 5.1.6 12:49 < Daworm> I just installed via YUM 12:49 < Daworm> so blame the centos repository managers! 12:49 < werdna> install php5-json or whatever 12:50 < Daworm> they have it in centos testing repos 12:50 < Daworm> just not in the main ones yet. 12:51 -!- slavie|away is now known as Pathoschild 12:51 < Daworm> only thing with "json" in it on centos repos is per-JSON-DWIW.i386 12:51 < Daworm> all good 12:51 < Daworm> I can wait 12:51 < Daworm> :) 12:51 < Daworm> don't need the foreign API anyway now 12:51 < Daworm> prob won't anytime soon... 12:52 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has quit ["Some people are like slinkies. They're not good for anything except pushing them down stairs."] 12:53 < werdna> you will find lots of crap will randomly break without json 12:53 < Daworm> m - I'll see when they'll push 5.2 to main centos repo's I guess. 12:54 < werdna> you should be able to install json with pear or something 12:55 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:55 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has joined #mediawiki 12:59 -!- RoanKattouw [n=chatzill@wingtip56.wing.rug.nl] has joined #mediawiki 13:01 -!- Daworm [i=76d17970@wikia/Daworm] has quit ["Page closed"] 13:05 -!- ialex [n=IAlex@mediawiki/ialex] has joined #mediawiki 13:08 -!- fotoflo [n=chatzill@123.125.40.250] has joined #mediawiki 13:09 < fotoflo> hey all, is there an extension for mediawiki that logs user logins? 13:09 < RoanKattouw> !e NewUserLog 13:09 < mwbot> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:NewUserLog 13:09 < RoanKattouw> But more recent versions of MW have that built in 13:09 < RoanKattouw> That would be http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Newuserlog 13:09 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@dhcp-077-250-053-164.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 13:10 < fotoflo> that logs new user account creations. 13:10 < fotoflo> not who logs in when 13:10 < RoanKattouw> Oh that 13:10 < RoanKattouw> Maybe search for "login" or "stalk" in the extension matrix 13:11 < fotoflo> nothing 13:11 -!- TimStarling is now known as Tim-away 13:12 < fotoflo> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UserLoginLogoutLog 13:12 < fotoflo> oh maybe 13:12 -!- RoanKattouw [n=chatzill@wingtip56.wing.rug.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:21 -!- jdpond [n=jdpond@mediawiki/jpond] has left #MediaWiki [] 13:24 < fotoflo> it works, but theres no way to get good information from it 13:28 < Duesentrieb> fotoflo: since people tend to not log out, that kind of info is generally pretty useless. 13:28 < Duesentrieb> you'd have to track logged-in page requests to get anything meaningful. 13:28 < fotoflo> id like to see which users are logging int he most 13:29 < fotoflo> sorry 13:29 < fotoflo> which users are the most active 13:29 < Duesentrieb> yea, logging logins is useless for that. 13:29 < Duesentrieb> "active" as in edits is pretty easy. 13:29 < Duesentrieb> in page views... possible, but not easy. 13:30 < fotoflo> yes, would like to see pvs 13:31 < Duesentrieb> you'll have to write an extension then that writes every page request into a log table, with the user name and timestamp. 13:31 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@212.241.58.21] has joined #mediawiki 13:32 < Duesentrieb> fotoflo: note that depending on where you are, you may be requried by law to tell you users about this. 13:33 < fotoflo> its a little overkill as well 13:33 < fotoflo> really i just want to see who is logging in 13:33 < fotoflo> logging in indicates activity 13:33 < fotoflo> pv would be cool though 13:33 < wikibugs> (mod) An unsuccessful search with operators brings up a Special:Search page offering you to create a page with search operators in its name - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21467 summary; +comment (agarrett) 13:34 < fotoflo> it would be better if I could just have mediawiki add a logged in user name to the web log 13:34 < fotoflo> cause i have awstats on that 13:34 < fotoflo> weblog = apache log 13:34 < fotoflo> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpecialUserScore 13:34 -!- Olipro [n=Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.active.olipro] has joined #mediawiki 13:36 < fotoflo> nope, that brings the whole wiki down 13:37 -!- gdonato [n=GDonato@wikimedia/GDonato] has quit ["quit"] 13:40 -!- Church_of_emacs [n=CoE@wikipedia/Church-of-emacs] has quit ["Leaving"] 13:44 -!- dungodung|away is now known as dungodung 13:45 -!- Marco27 [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has joined #mediawiki 13:47 < wikibugs> (WFM) Inconsistent thread history display for thread view - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20649 +comment (agarrett) 13:49 < wikibugs> (mod) Should add logging table entries for thread actions - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21586 summary; +comment (agarrett) 13:52 -!- jdpond [n=jdpond@mediawiki/jpond] has joined #MediaWiki 13:59 -!- jdpond [n=jdpond@mediawiki/jpond] has quit ["Leaving."] 14:03 -!- Church_of_emacs [n=CoE@wikipedia/Church-of-emacs] has joined #mediawiki 14:04 -!- Diamant005 [n=user6398@p579CAB20.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de"] 14:12 < wikibugs> (mod) Messy 'new messages' pages - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20644 (agarrett) 14:13 < wikibugs> (mod) Messy 'new messages' pages - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20644 (agarrett) 14:17 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@argon.loria.fr] has joined #mediawiki 14:21 -!- JNSamuel [n=JSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:21 -!- JNSamuel [n=JSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy] has joined #mediawiki 14:22 -!- stephan48 [n=rjp@pdpc/supporter/student/stephan48] has joined #mediawiki 14:26 < CIA-66> werdna * r59356 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/View.php: LiquidThreads: remove summary field for posts and replies, use a boilerplate summary 14:27 < CIA-66> werdna * r59357 /trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: Enabling change for r59356, allow programmatic control over whether or not the summary field is shown 14:29 -!- LauraHale [n=laurahal@adsl-99-142-42-96.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #mediawiki 14:29 -!- Reedy [n=Reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has joined #mediawiki 14:29 -!- ialex [n=IAlex@mediawiki/ialex] has quit [] 14:31 < Reedy> Lol, i'm listed in the top 5 bug resolvers for last week 14:34 < wikibugs> (mod) Menu overlaps thread title - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21531 summary; +comment (agarrett) 14:36 -!- Shown [n=Miranda@87.13.208.186] has joined #mediawiki 14:43 -!- JNSamuel [n=JSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:44 -!- j^ [n=j@87.160.161.228] has joined #mediawiki 14:46 -!- JNSamuel [n=JSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy] has joined #mediawiki 14:47 -!- buzz__ [n=jools@lan.oxfordinspire.co.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:48 < wikibugs> (DUP) An unsuccessful search with operators brings up a Special:Search page offering you to create a page with search operators in its name - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21467 +comment (rainman) 14:48 < wikibugs> (mod) don't propose to create the page when using prefix:, intitle: or +incategory: - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21102 +comment (rainman) 14:49 -!- NCarter [n=ncarter@mail.amd.gb.com] has joined #mediawiki 14:50 -!- Tu13es [i=brandon@colobus.isomerica.net] has joined #mediawiki 14:51 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@argon.loria.fr] has quit ["Leaving"] 14:51 -!- JNSamuel [n=JSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy] has quit [Client Quit] 14:54 * f00li5h paws at werdna 14:54 < werdna> eee 14:55 < f00li5h> werdna: so, is there a perl port in the pipes? 14:55 < werdna> hah, no 14:55 < f00li5h> wanna? 14:55 < werdna> using PHP is essential to our team remaining united 14:55 < werdna> you see, with PHP we all hate it equally 14:56 < f00li5h> ah... 14:56 < werdna> whereas with a perl port, there would be some who loved it and some who hated it 14:56 < f00li5h> "I hate the romans already" 14:56 < werdna> same with python or ruby or whatever :P 14:56 < f00li5h> ah... 14:56 -!- AndreU [n=AndreU@78.53.147.75] has joined #mediawiki 14:57 < Nikerabbit> werdna: did you fix the sticky new messages issue? 14:57 < f00li5h> perhaps I should do something on the pg innards or something ... 14:57 < werdna> WHAT STICKY NEW MESSAGES ISSUE? :P 14:57 < werdna> f00li5h: our pg support sucks, feel free to help 14:57 < f00li5h> is there a roadmap i should paw at? 14:57 < f00li5h> I read a "it will go on pg, but ... oh my!" 14:58 -!- ngong [i=c05d9e1a@gateway/web/freenode/x-ggycjzhksaahrjvr] has joined #mediawiki 14:58 < Nikerabbit> werdna: in translatewiki.net, the "new messages (n)" does not reset 14:58 < werdna> can you show me how to reproduce? 14:58 < Nikerabbit> werdna: just go there and mark all messages as read 14:59 < wikibugs> (mod) Search and Replace: regexes not treated as multiline - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21343 (wikibugs) 14:59 < Nikerabbit> meeh never mind 14:59 < Nikerabbit> wait 14:59 < Nikerabbit> still broken 14:59 < Nikerabbit> shows 9 but I only have 2 14:59 -!- Pathoschild [n=Jesse@wikimedia/Pathoschild] has quit ["*poof*"] 15:00 < Nikerabbit> the number is way off 15:00 < werdna> odd 15:00 < f00li5h> werdna: road map, useful things etc? 15:00 < Nikerabbit> "They claim it runs MediaWiki. Probably can be used for mixed PHP / Java 15:00 < Nikerabbit> environment and for the smooth transition to Java?" 15:00 < Nikerabbit> at least I got good laugh 15:00 < werdna> f00li5h: we don't really have a roadmap, especially ot for pgsql support 15:01 < werdna> there's a page on mediawiki.org 15:01 < f00li5h> hmm 15:01 < werdna> an old page here http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker 15:01 -!- Platonides [n=Platonid@wikipedia/Platonides] has joined #mediawiki 15:03 < ngong> just new to mediawiki: how can I shrink the height of the edit window? Explenation: by default the save button can be reached only by scrolling down. This drops productivity a lot compared to having the save button available on the initial screen. 15:04 < Nikerabbit> you can change it in your preferences 15:04 < ngong> sorry: on a 1280x800 screen 15:04 < wikibugs> (CLOSED) New Page Create / Edit - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21550 +comment (wikibugs) 15:05 * Platonides uses Alt+s to save 15:05 < Tu13es> can I link to something like \\servername\folder\filename.txt in MW? 15:05 < Tu13es> I can't figure out the syntax if so 15:06 -!- aolko [i=aolko@212.106.37.114] has joined #mediawiki 15:06 < f00li5h> Tu13es: I beleive so 15:06 < Platonides> you might be able to, using a file:/// url 15:06 < aolko> hi all 15:06 < Nikerabbit> but file:// is not enabled by default 15:06 < aolko> i have a question about {{ambox}} 15:06 < aolko> help me pls 15:06 < Nikerabbit> aolko: #wikipedia perhaps? 15:07 < Tu13es> hmm 15:07 < Tu13es> so would it be file:///\\servername etc? 15:07 < Platonides> try it 15:08 < aolko> wikipedia not helped me 15:08 < aolko> :( 15:08 < Platonides> note that some browsers block file: urls 15:08 < Tu13es> hmm 15:10 < ngong> Nikerabbit: I searched for such a parameter in LocalSettings.php and in includes/DefaultSettings.php - without luck. What to read in order to get acquainted with apprearance-prefrences? 15:10 < Nikerabbit> ngong: do you want to change it for all or just for you? 15:10 < Platonides> !man $wgProtocols 15:10 < mwbot> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgProtocols 15:11 < ngong> Nikerabbit: me and "all" is just the same for now 15:11 < Platonides> ngong, it's $wgUrlProtocols 15:11 < Nikerabbit> ngong: then go to Special:Preferences and see under editing tab 15:12 < Platonides> sorry, it was for Tu13es 15:12 < Tu13es> hm 15:12 < Tu13es> that link doesn't work? 15:13 -!- JC [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has joined #mediawiki 15:15 < Tu13es> found it 15:15 < wikibugs> (FIXED) File Cache created for error page - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18573 (duke33) 15:15 < ngong> Platonides: thank you, much easier than I thought. 15:16 -!- mangel [n=mangel@62.Red-80-59-8.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:21 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Search and Replace: regexes not treated as multiline - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21343 (roan.kattouw) 15:21 -!- Witzman [n=witzman@outgoing.e-tecture.com] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 15:23 -!- ape [n=ape@ape3000.com] has joined #mediawiki 15:24 -!- brion [n=brion@wikipedia/Brion-VIBBER] has joined #mediawiki 15:25 < wikibugs> (mod) Install Extension:Transliterator on fr and en.wiktionary - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20246 (conrad.irwin) 15:25 -!- hwillert [n=hwillert@pluto.nat.uni-magdeburg.de] has joined #mediawiki 15:27 < ape> I have a problem with MediaWiki 1.15.1. When I upload a file I will get to a blank page. The file will appear on my images-folder and it's is accessable through apache. The uploaded file does NOT show up on the upload log or the list of files. 15:27 < ape> http://pixelords.sourceforge.net/index.php/Special:Upload 15:27 < Platonides> ape, what does your error log say? 15:27 < ape> If I change the permissions on the images-folder I will get a error telling that the MediaWiki has no permissions to save the folder 15:28 < ape> Platonides: Where can I find my error log 15:28 < Platonides> wherever php.ini instructs php to place it 15:28 -!- flubub1114 [n=Flubub@dslb-092-075-106-050.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #mediawiki 15:31 < Tu13es> hmm 15:31 < Tu13es> I've got a page that I'm using for FAQs. I have questions that are pretty long, for (made up) example: "What is the best possible color for a pants to wear to work on the third Thursday of the month?" 15:32 -!- bobinabottle [n=bobinabo@217.138.5.2] has joined #mediawiki 15:32 < Tu13es> I'd been putting the question name as a section, but that gets to be kind of a pain to link to via other areas of the wiki 15:32 < Tu13es> any other suggestions? 15:32 -!- JeroenDeDauw [n=Admin@80.200.246.21] has joined #mediawiki 15:34 -!- AlexSm [n=Miranda@wikipedia/Alex-Smotrov] has joined #mediawiki 15:37 -!- HeXiLeD [n=H3X@unaffiliated/hexiled] has left #mediawiki [] 15:39 -!- Church_of_emacs [n=CoE@wikipedia/Church-of-emacs] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:42 -!- c3l [n=c3l@c-f390e253.04-264-73746f13.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #mediawiki 15:44 < c3l> can I get the text that comes out of the wikitext to change rows at the same point? its quite stupid to let a row continue when the user has purposely started on a new row. and no, I do not want to make new paragraphs all the time. and yes, this text requires new rows even though some people believe that its stupid. 15:44 < Platonides> !poem 15:44 < mwbot> The Poem extension allows for easy formatting of poems and similar material in MediaWiki pages, by simply putting them between tags. See . 15:44 < Platonides> that might be what you want, c3l 15:45 < c3l> Platonides, that'll work. thanks 15:45 < Alphos> otherwise, you could use an empty line 15:46 < Natalie> still needs to be merged into core as 15:46 < Natalie> If, y'know, anyone is bored. 15:46 < c3l> Alphos, that would create a new paragraph. and also i am pasting a text that is written in "poem" style into the wiki. woul take some time to go through it and hit enter 15:46 < Duesentrieb> Natalie: ? huh? 15:46 < Duesentrieb> Natalie: but it does not suppress breaks. quite the opposite... 15:46 < Alphos> c3l : use
? 15:47 < Duesentrieb> Alphos: yea, but it's ugly. style is much nicer 15:47 < c3l> Alphos, I will still have to insert hundreds of
15:47 < Duesentrieb> Natalie: in core yes, but with a good name :) 15:48 < Natalie> Duesentrieb: No breaks required.... 15:48 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has joined #mediawiki 15:48 < Natalie> I think nearly any name would be better than 15:48 < Duesentrieb> Natalie: that's not it either. 15:48 < Duesentrieb> 15:48 < vvv> Tim-away: I guess it was done because I thought that there was no way to get on redirect page except by accessing it intentionally 15:49 < Natalie> Heh. 15:49 < Platonides> ? 15:49 < Duesentrieb> we could just call it 15:49 < c3l> 15:49 < Duesentrieb> c3l: no, that would imply the software wrapping something. 15:49 < c3l> oh =) 15:49 < Duesentrieb> 15:50 * Natalie votes for still. 15:51 < Duesentrieb> Natalie: i'm strongly opposed to that. that name is extremly misleading. 15:51 < Duesentrieb> it's like calling links "anchors" or stupid shit like that :) 15:51 < Platonides> it makes easier breaks 15:52 < Duesentrieb> yea, or would be fine 15:52 < Natalie> Hmm, that works. 15:53 < Natalie> Though I think also comes with line numbering abilities. So I'm not sure it makes as much sense with "easybreak" that it supports numbering... 15:53 * Natalie shrugs. 15:53 < c3l> whats wrong with then? easywrap is not as explanatory 15:53 -!- freakolowsky [n=freakolo@BSN-77-157-221.dsl.siol.net] has joined #mediawiki 15:53 < freakolowsky> lo ladies 15:54 < Duesentrieb> or , sure, why not. 15:54 < f00li5h> werdna: i think that page is referred to by bug 1 15:55 < werdna> :D 15:56 < ape> Platonides: I get this weird error: Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 20971520 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 30720 bytes) in /home/groups/p/pi/pixelords/htdocs/includes/Revision.php on line 320 15:57 < ape> Even when uploading very small images 15:58 -!- boomblast [n=boomblas@4be54-3-82-226-105-150.fbx.proxad.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:58 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 15:59 -!- j^ [n=j@87.160.161.228] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 16:00 < Platonides> try increasing the memory limit 16:00 < Platonides> there will be a ini_set() line at the top of localsettings.php 16:00 -!- kevindanko [n=Kevindan@205.232.42.46] has joined #mediawiki 16:01 -!- JC is now known as JC|AFK 16:03 < ape> Should it be ini_set('memory_limit', '64M');? 16:06 < ape> Hmm.. It worked. Thanks 16:09 -!- yoyo[RKN] [n=Miranda@i577B43E1.versanet.de] has joined #mediawiki 16:09 -!- flubub1114 [n=Flubub@dslb-092-075-106-050.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit ["Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de"] 16:14 -!- xbaez [n=xbaez@200.34.201.2] has joined #mediawiki 16:15 -!- LauraHale is now known as Laura|Dentist 16:18 < wikibugs> (NEW) Call to undefined function xriToUrl() in SpecialOpenID.body.php on line 72 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21606 critical; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: OpenID; (jack.pond) 16:19 -!- ialex [n=IAlex@mediawiki/ialex] has joined #mediawiki 16:20 -!- ludvig [n=chatzill@92-244-18-250.customers.ownit.se] has joined #mediawiki 16:20 -!- Church_of_emacs [n=CoE@emasq.stusta.mhn.de] has joined #mediawiki 16:22 < ludvig> My mediwiki installation outputs some ugly charachters before the Doctype . Making IE6 go into quirks-mode. Has anyone an solution/explaination for this. www.aktivitetsbanken.se 16:23 -!- ape [n=ape@ape3000.com] has left #mediawiki ["Leaving"] 16:23 < ludvig> It is not the custom template. If I switch to monobook , same problem. 16:24 < werdna> ludvig: I'm not sure, it looks like it's just a newline before the doctype 16:24 < Platonides> it's a new line plus a BOM 16:24 < ludvig> OK, but that newline is messing up IE6 16:25 < Platonides> look for newlines before or after ?> 16:25 < werdna> ah 16:25 < Platonides> on the files 16:25 < Platonides> you can remove the ending ?> 16:25 < ludvig> And I can n ot find whre it is inserted... 16:25 < werdna> ludvig: have you manually edited any files? 16:25 < Platonides> using something like notepad? 16:26 < ludvig> Well yes, I guess so. but I Can not find the newline. 16:26 -!- j^ [n=j@e179078218.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #mediawiki 16:27 < ludvig> I have not edited anytihnig in the monobook template.... 16:27 < werdna> maybe you can grep for the BOM character? 16:28 < ludvig> Ok, I have to lern what the BOM charachter is, thanks for advice... 16:30 < Duesentrieb> !bom 16:30 < mwbot> The byte-order mark (BOM) is a special character added to files by some text editors, most notably, by Notepad. It is unnecessary and breaks PHP code. You should not use Notepad to edit PHP files. Alternatives for Windows include Notepad++, SciTE, EditPlus, and UltraEdit. See also !?> 16:30 -!- JeroenDeDauw [n=Admin@80.200.246.21] has quit ["Leaving."] 16:31 -!- brion is now known as brion-away 16:31 -!- fotoflo [n=chatzill@123.125.40.250] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:34 < ludvig> I use phpEd. I do not really know how to search for this BOM thing.. This thing is killing me! 16:34 -!- BradLee [n=chatzill@CPE-121-214-97-81.lnse4.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 16:36 < microm> is there such an extension - 16:37 < AndreU> hi there 16:37 < AndreU> Tim Starling anywhere around here? 16:37 < microm> is there such an extension -> list 10 most recent emails of a mailman mailist list on a wiki page? 16:38 < freakolowsky> square brackets i believe are not allowed in a page title ... right? 16:39 < werdna> ludvig: google for byte order mark 16:39 < werdna> AndreU: just ask your question, it's 3am his time 16:41 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@argon.loria.fr] has joined #mediawiki 16:41 < wikibugs> (NEW) Undefined index: value_labels in SF_FormInputs.inc on line 158 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21607 minor; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticForms; (jack.pond) 16:42 < Duesentrieb> freakolowsky: yes. 16:43 -!- MaxSem [n=max@wikimedia/MaxSem] has joined #mediawiki 16:43 < freakolowsky> danke 16:43 -!- jdpond [n=jdpond@mediawiki/jpond] has joined #MediaWiki 16:52 -!- JC|AFK [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has quit [Broken pipe] 16:52 -!- andi_ [n=andi@pD9FF5F6B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mediawiki 16:53 -!- Saruman [n=jan@dworkin.saruman.biz] has joined #mediawiki 16:54 < AndreU> werdna, thanks for the info 16:55 < AndreU> just found that he is assigned to 1.16 bugs like "Rewrite of the script loader" 16:55 < AndreU> would like to know a status of 1.16 if there is any 16:56 < AndreU> I know an alpha is running by WMF but don't know if there is a date for release 16:59 < MaxSem> !1.16 is It will be ready when it's ready. 16:59 < mwbot> Successfully added keyword: 1.16 16:59 < MaxSem> !1.16 | AndreU 16:59 < mwbot> AndreU: It will be ready when it's ready. 17:00 < MaxSem> mwahaha 17:00 < Alphos> :D 17:00 < Alphos> love it :D 17:00 -!- MaxSem is now known as MaxSem|away 17:00 < AndreU> heh 17:00 < AndreU> 1.16? 17:00 < AndreU> mwbot how about 1.16? 17:00 < jdpond> AndreU: It's all brion's fault - new scapegoat de jour. 17:01 < AndreU> do you guys have a guess about it? 17:01 < AndreU> like almost there or at least 4 weeks away? 17:02 < werdna> hopefully by the end of the year 17:03 -!- zrh [n=zrh@dynamic-80-242-196-229.catv.glattnet.ch] has joined #mediawiki 17:05 < jdpond> werdna: Which year? 17:05 < werdna> ;) 17:06 * jdpond Works in government - has to ask! :-D 17:07 < MaxSem|away> jdpond, which government? %) 17:08 -!- MrZ-man [i=MrZ-man@mediawiki/MrZ-man] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:08 < werdna> yeah, which one? 17:08 < jdpond> MaxSem|away: In case you haven't figured it out, we're all the same - one massive conspiracy in subjugating the common man. http://wiki.montcopa.org/MediaWiki 17:09 -!- AlexSm [n=Miranda@wikipedia/Alex-Smotrov] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:10 -!- Netsplit calkins.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: runner336, ans-tot1222, ircmanz, felipe`, wimt 17:10 -!- Netsplit over, joins: runner336 17:10 -!- Netsplit over, joins: ans-tot1222 17:10 -!- Netsplit over, joins: ircmanz 17:13 < ludvig> Ok, I found the solution for my BOM -problem . The FCKeditor -extension. All files in that extension has BOM charachters. I found them using find -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep -l `printf '^\xef\xbb\xbf'` | sed 's/^/found BOM in: /' 17:15 < werdna> bah 17:15 < werdna> slap the FCKeditor developers 17:15 -!- SPQRobin [n=Robin@wikimedia/SPQRobin] has joined #mediawiki 17:15 * MaxSem|away reported it to them on IRC a few days ago 17:17 -!- Marco27 [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has quit ["Bye!"] 17:19 < werdna> Nikerabbit: is this the issue you were reporting? http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Thread:Support/New_cache_problem 17:19 < freakolowsky> Q: writing a SpecialPage with raw output ($wgOut->disable()) but i'd like to expand Wiki constructs ... if i'm not mistaken if you disable output wiki does not init the parser ... now how do i get an initialised parser?! 17:19 -!- Anubisss [i=Anubisss@ip-174-175-userpool.zeg.zelkanet.hu] has joined #mediawiki 17:20 -!- KaareAway is now known as Kaare 17:22 -!- belZe [i=irc@osprey.bjoern-gies.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 17:22 < ialex> freakolowsky: the parser is initialised on request, output disabled or not 17:23 < ialex> you can still use $wgParser even after $wgOut->disable() 17:23 < wikibugs> (NEW) Only display thread fragments on Special:NewMessages - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21608 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (agarrett) 17:23 < freakolowsky> hmmm ... i get call to member function on non-object ??!?!? i'm thinking of using wfMsgExt 17:23 < ialex> but you can't do $wgOut->addWikiText(), you need to call $wgParser->parse() directly and extract the html 17:24 < ialex> trunk? 17:24 < freakolowsky> yep 17:24 < ialex> strange 17:24 < freakolowsky> well ... haven't updated a cuple of days now 17:24 < ialex> should not happen imho 17:25 < Nikerabbit> werdna: I guess so 17:25 < Nikerabbit> werdna: yes 17:25 < werdna> I can't reproduce it anywhere else, could it be dodgy memcached behaviour on tw? 17:25 -!- Suiseiseki [n=desudesu@cpe-76-183-145-33.tx.res.rr.com] has joined #mediawiki 17:25 -!- belZe [i=irc@osprey.bjoern-gies.de] has joined #mediawiki 17:25 -!- ludvig [n=chatzill@92-244-18-250.customers.ownit.se] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.0.15/2009101601]"] 17:26 < ialex> freakolowsky: $wgOut->disable() only set $wgOut->mDoNothing, which is only used in $wgOut->output() 17:26 < wikibugs> (NEW) AJAX for post editing in LiquidThreads - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21609 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (agarrett) 17:27 < ialex> freakolowsky: at which stage of the request are you calling wfMsgExt()? 17:27 < freakolowsky> SpecialPage -> execute ... at the end 17:27 < ialex> o_O 17:28 -!- vvv [n=vvv@mediawiki/VasilievVV] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:29 < ialex> freakolowsky: are you including the special page? 17:29 < freakolowsky> oh ialex ... note ... the error came when calling parse ... i'm just trying wfMsgExt right now and it works ql 17:30 < ialex> freakolowsky: you mean wfMsgExt( ..., array( 'parse' ), ... )? 17:31 < freakolowsky> that's what i use now ... 17:31 < freakolowsky> that works 17:31 < freakolowsky> $wgParser->parse made the boo-boo 17:31 < Nikerabbit> array() is superfluos with only one parameter :o 17:31 < ialex> Nikerabbit: I know :) 17:31 < wikibugs> (NEW) Merge "new messages" with "my talkpage" - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21610 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (agarrett) 17:32 < freakolowsky> ps ... how do i just expand the wiki constructs ... without escaping the html code? 17:32 < ialex> freakolowsky: what is the exact error? 17:33 -!- foksieloy [n=Miranda@78.1.149.157] has joined #mediawiki 17:33 < freakolowsky> ufff ... gone with the buffer ... something Call to member function .... what was it ... something with include size ... sry didn't remember | save 17:34 -!- indro [n=indro@212.203.74.20] has joined #mediawiki 17:34 < freakolowsky> thought i was maki ng something wrong ... didn't consider it could be a bug or sth :D 17:35 -!- Bryan [n=launch@wikimedia-commons/Bryan] has joined #mediawiki 17:35 < indro> hi all, im trying to get the content of a wikipage with mwclient but if I do dir(page) i only get 'backlinks', 'can', 'categories', 'delete', 'edit', 'edit_time', 'embeddedin', 'exists', 'extlinks', 'get_expanded', 'get_token', 'handle_edit_error', 'images', 'langlinks', 'last_rev_time', 'length', 'links', 'move', 'name', 'namespace', 'normalize_title', 'page_title', 'protection', 'purge', 'redirect', 'revision', 'revisions', 'save', 'site', 'strip_namespac 17:35 < indro> is it possible that mwclient can't get the content of the page? 17:35 < werdna> wow, bugzilla is very slow at the moment 17:39 < Bryan> 'evening 17:40 < freakolowsky> lo 17:40 < werdna> hi Bryan 17:41 < werdna> Bryan: okay let's get to GlobalUsage in a few minutes 17:41 < wikibugs> (NEW) Preview button sometimes missing in action (editing a post with LiquidThreads) - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21611 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (agarrett) 17:43 < Bryan> yeah 17:44 < wikibugs> (NEW) Remove username from LQT titles - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21612 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (agarrett) 17:46 < indro> any idea? 17:48 -!- ireas [n=ireas@wikipedia/Ireas] has joined #mediawiki 17:48 < Bryan> page.edit() 17:49 < Bryan> the editing interface is kinda weird 17:49 < Bryan> alternatively page.revisions(prop = 'rvcontent') should work as well 17:49 < werdna> Bryan: hmm, I think the globalimagelinks table is too big to effect that schema change 17:49 < Bryan> DROP; 17:49 < werdna> can we drop it and throw it into the next big batch of schema changes 17:50 < werdna> or do you just want to truncate the table? 17:50 < Bryan> yeah 17:50 < Bryan> we need to rebuild it anyway 17:50 < werdna> I'm not sure how that's going to go in terms of replication 17:50 -!- Raymond_afk [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has joined #mediawiki 17:50 -!- aZaFred [n=aZaFred@216.38.133.254] has joined #mediawiki 17:50 < Bryan> hmmm 17:51 < Bryan> I have no experience with that, so wouldn't know 17:51 -!- AlexSm [n=Miranda@wikipedia/Alex-Smotrov] has joined #mediawiki 17:51 < werdna> asking domas 17:51 < Bryan> the safe option would be to just revert 17:51 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@argon.loria.fr] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:52 < freakolowsky> ialex ... found ... wasn't a bug, just my dodgy coding :D 17:52 -!- flubub1114 [n=Flubub@92.75.106.50] has joined #mediawiki 17:52 < ialex> freakolowsky: hehe :) 17:53 < indro> Bryan: i dont want edit the page, just get the content. 17:53 < Bryan> I know 17:53 < Bryan> page_data = page.edit() 17:53 < Bryan> the actually editing is page.save 17:54 < indro> hmm okay, will try 17:54 < Bryan> like I said, the editing interface is kinda weird 17:54 < Bryan> (function naming never has been my strongest point) 17:54 -!- cps0 [n=cps0@143.107.109.46] has joined #mediawiki 17:54 < freakolowsky> but i noticed there is no easy way to just expand the wiki structure without any other parsing hassle ... have to call fistCallInit, have to instantiate ParserOptions then i can call replaceVariables which is all i want it to do ... no one-touch magic function 17:54 * werdna renames Bryan to Brion 17:54 < Duesentrieb> anyone of you ever seen codes like +AGA-, +ACI-, or +ACEAIQ- show up in text? seems to be an artifact of some mail system or something... encodes non-ascii chars / non-printables, but i havn't figured out how. 17:54 < werdna> for maximal confusion 17:54 < freakolowsky> LOL 17:55 < Duesentrieb> wtf is this? 17:56 -!- c3l [n=c3l@c-f390e253.04-264-73746f13.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 17:56 < Duesentrieb> example: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tapestry-users/200401.mbox/%3CA27FEC8516051048B5B3A119BC0D8CB60181BEE9@exch2k.spheranet.com%3E 17:57 -!- felipe` [n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se] has joined #mediawiki 17:58 < Bryan> Duesentrieb: UTF-7? 17:58 -!- JC|AFK [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has joined #mediawiki 17:59 < Duesentrieb> Bryan: uh... huh. yea... yes, that could be it! 17:59 < Bryan> >>> print "What does the 'direction+AD0AIg-auto+ACI-' means ?+ACE-?".decode('utf-7').encode('utf-8') 17:59 < Bryan> What does the 'direction="auto"' means ?!? 17:59 < Duesentrieb> Bryan: thanks, you saved my day :) 18:00 -!- wolog [n=wolog@195.6.104.193] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:01 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@212.241.58.21] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:01 -!- wolog [n=wolog@195.6.104.193] has joined #mediawiki 18:04 -!- hwillert [n=hwillert@pluto.nat.uni-magdeburg.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:04 -!- vvv [n=vvv@mediawiki/VasilievVV] has joined #mediawiki 18:10 -!- PDD [i=PDD@p57A0FA05.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mediawiki 18:10 -!- phyrex1an [n=phyrex1a@bumik.csbnet.se] has joined #mediawiki 18:11 -!- Tu13es [i=brandon@colobus.isomerica.net] has left #mediawiki [] 18:11 -!- MaxSem|away is now known as MaxSem 18:12 -!- MarkDilley [n=MarkDill@173.8.216.62] has joined #Mediawiki 18:14 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@wikipedia/duesentrieb] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 18:14 -!- SPQRobin1 [n=Robin@84.197.170.77] has joined #mediawiki 18:15 -!- brion-away [n=brion@wikipedia/Brion-VIBBER] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:18 -!- ialex|ghost [n=IAlex@mediawiki/ialex] has joined #mediawiki 18:24 -!- Raymond_afk is now known as Raymond_ 18:27 -!- Kipcool [n=chatzill@91.13.188.224] has joined #mediawiki 18:27 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@dhcp-077-250-053-164.chello.nl] has joined #mediawiki 18:28 -!- Jackian [n=Jackian@89.100.152.223] has joined #mediawiki 18:28 -!- Bamieater [i=Melvin@freenode/sponsor/bamieater] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 18:29 -!- Jackian [n=Jackian@89.100.152.223] has quit [Client Quit] 18:30 -!- Jackian [n=Jackian@89.100.152.223] has joined #mediawiki 18:30 -!- aude [n=chatzill@pool-96-231-117-127.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #mediawiki 18:30 -!- Jackian [n=Jackian@89.100.152.223] has quit [Client Quit] 18:31 -!- Jackian [n=Jackian@89.100.152.223] has joined #mediawiki 18:31 < Jackian> hi 18:31 < Jackian> anyone on? 18:31 < Platonides> !ask | Jackian 18:31 < mwbot> Jackian: Don't say "I have a question", or ask "Is anyone around?" or "Can anyone help?". Just ask the question, and someone will help you if they can. See also: !gethelp 18:31 -!- Jackian [n=Jackian@89.100.152.223] has quit [Client Quit] 18:32 -!- SPQRobin [n=Robin@wikimedia/SPQRobin] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:33 -!- ialex [n=IAlex@mediawiki/ialex] has quit [Success] 18:33 -!- ialex|ghost is now known as ialex 18:36 < wikibugs> (mod) safe referencing the newest version of page using one of its history id - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21572 (Platonides) 18:45 -!- wolog [n=wolog@195.6.104.193] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:46 -!- SPQRobin1 [n=Robin@84.197.170.77] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 18:49 -!- Mike||gone is now known as Mike_lifeguard 18:50 < MaxSem> anyone seen anything like http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk#Signatures_don.27t_work_properly_on_1.15.1 ?? can't reproduce it on trunk 18:51 -!- Bamieater [i=Melvin@53566C45.cable.casema.nl] has joined #mediawiki 18:53 -!- nb [n=nb@pdpc/supporter/active/fedora.nb] has quit [SendQ exceeded] 18:53 -!- mdale [n=dale@pdpc/supporter/student/mdale] has joined #mediawiki 18:54 -!- wimt [i=wimt@freenode/staff/wikipedia.wimt] has joined #mediawiki 18:55 < wikibugs> (INVALID) MediaWiki:Robots.txt and $wgCapitalLinks = true on pl.wiktionary - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15878 summary; +comment (AlexSm) 19:01 -!- RoanKattouw [n=RoanKatt@83.119.125.27] has joined #mediawiki 19:04 -!- jMyles [n=justin@ip72-192-1-214.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #mediawiki 19:05 < Hendo001> hiya folks 19:07 < Hendo001> http://www.sto-database.co.uk/wiki/File:Mailorder.jpg i'm having a problem with thumbnails n not sure what to do, i've already been looking at the mediawiki site and its saying stuff about imagemagic or gd libary or something but kinda stuck what to do now 19:07 < Platonides> your php is configured with safe mode 19:07 < Hendo001> ok 19:07 < Platonides> either disable it (or make your admin change it) 19:07 < Platonides> or use gd 19:07 < Hendo001> how do i change that? 19:08 -!- RoanKattouw is now known as RoanKattouw_away 19:09 < Hendo001> so i had better ask my host to change the php for me? 19:09 < MaxSem> Hendo001, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Image_Administration 19:09 < Platonides> set $wgUseImageMagick to false; 19:09 < Hendo001> max i have the page thx 19:09 < Bryan> so what do you not understand from it? 19:09 < Hendo001> in the localsettings.php 19:09 < Hendo001> ? 19:10 < Platonides> yes 19:10 < Platonides> you have it set to true 19:10 < Hendo001> ok 19:11 < Platonides> and set $wgUseImageResize to true 19:12 < wikibugs> (mod) BiDirectional editing - provide a tool to resolve also nested BiDi blocks - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21048 (N/A) 19:13 < Hendo001> thx platonides it works now 19:13 < Platonides> :) 19:13 < Hendo001> i'm still a noob at all this wiki stuff lol 19:14 -!- wolog [n=wolog@AOrleans-152-1-67-56.w90-21.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #mediawiki 19:14 -!- akozak [n=alex@adsl-71-134-253-152.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #mediawiki 19:15 -!- aude [n=chatzill@wikipedia/Aude] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 19:16 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:16 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has joined #mediawiki 19:18 -!- AzaToth [n=azatoth@wikipedia/AzaToth] has joined #mediawiki 19:19 < Hendo001> stupid question 19:19 < Hendo001> now i got thumbs working, how do i get text to be under the image? 19:20 < Hendo001> use vertical alignment? 19:20 < CIA-66> ialex * r59358 /trunk/phase3/maintenance/ (nextJobDB.php updateSpecialPages.php): removed trailing whitespaces 19:20 < Platonides> [[File:|thumb|]] 19:21 < Hendo001> yeah i got that already Platonides 19:21 < Hendo001> http://www.sto-database.co.uk/wiki/Lee_Dotson 19:21 < Hendo001> see on the page i want the references bit at the bottom 19:22 < Hendo001> and i want the image on the left too 19:22 < Hendo001> i used left in the image options 19:23 < Hendo001> should i put a border on the image? 19:23 < Platonides> add above ==references==
19:23 < Hendo001> cheers :) 19:23 < Hendo001> i saw that a second ago too lol 19:24 -!- JC|AFK [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has quit [Broken pipe] 19:24 < Hendo001> yay :) u lot are great 19:24 < Hendo001> :) 19:24 < Hendo001> thx 19:25 < Platonides> you're welcome 19:26 -!- Scouse [n=chatzill@cpc1-shep9-0-0-cust352.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #mediawiki 19:30 -!- b9punk [i=noident@castrovalva.Ivy.NET] has joined #mediawiki 19:31 < b9punk> heya 19:32 < b9punk> i'm wondering if the mediawiki beta is available for download 19:32 < Platonides> sure 19:32 < Platonides> just download from trunk 19:32 < Platonides> or you mean the beta interface? 19:32 < CIA-66> btongminh * r59359 /trunk/extensions/GlobalUsage/SpecialGlobalUsage.php: 19:32 < CIA-66> * Only show the TOC link if there are actual results 19:32 < CIA-66> * Replace all raw i mean the beta inferface 19:33 < Platonides> that's the usabilityinitiative extension 19:33 < b9punk> ah 19:33 < b9punk> thanks 19:38 -!- atglenn [n=ariel@wiktionary/ArielGlenn] has joined #mediawiki 19:39 < CIA-66> reedy * r59360 /trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/EditPage.php): bug 21604 Spellcheck attribute for editsummary 19:39 -!- wolog_ [n=wolog@AOrleans-152-1-40-119.w90-21.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #mediawiki 19:39 -!- wolog [n=wolog@AOrleans-152-1-67-56.w90-21.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Connection timed out] 19:39 -!- Amgine is now known as Schroedinger 19:39 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Spellcheck attribute for editsummary - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21604 +comment (sam) 19:40 -!- Schroedinger is now known as Amgine 19:41 < Platonides> b9punk, the vector skin is at trunk mediawiki 19:42 -!- cattelan [n=ncattela@c-24-118-127-188.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit ["I shouldn't really be here - dircproxy 1.2.0"] 19:43 -!- cattelan [n=cattelan@c-24-118-127-188.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #mediawiki 19:45 < ialex> Reedy: for r59360: (from validator.w3.org with $wgHtml5=false;) Line 158, Column 221: Attribute "spellcheck" is not a valid attribute 19:45 < Reedy> Hmm 19:45 < Reedy> I was wondering that ;) 19:46 < Reedy> I'll fixup 19:46 < Reedy> Ie didnt seem to complain makes a change) 19:46 < ialex> maybe changing Xml:: to Html:: can help 19:46 < ialex> Reedy: use validator.w3.org :) 19:47 < Reedy> Will do in future :) 19:47 < Reedy> errm 19:47 -!- NeKit [i=nekit@95-83-29-207.saransk.ru] has joined #mediawiki 19:49 < NeKit> can I somehow change localized message 19:49 < NeKit> without editing MessagesRu.php 19:49 < Reedy> http://translatewiki.net/ 19:50 < NeKit> I don't mean it 19:50 < ialex> NeKit: edit MediaWiki:Message-name page 19:50 -!- Daedalus969 [n=Daedalus@unaffiliated/daedalus969] has joined #mediawiki 19:50 < NeKit> http://info.sonicscanf.ru/%D0%97%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0 19:50 < NeKit> I mean 19:50 < ialex> where Message-name is the key from the message file 19:50 < ialex> you can list messages in Special:Allmessages 19:51 < NeKit> ialex: thanks 19:51 < NeKit> I'll try... 19:51 < NeKit> just they are too long 19:51 < NeKit> and breaking my template 19:51 -!- werdan7 [n=w7@freenode/staff/wikimedia.werdan7] has quit [SendQ exceeded] 19:52 < NeKit> ialex: are changes saved in DB? 19:52 < CIA-66> reedy * r59361 /trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: 19:52 < CIA-66> Minor followup for r59360 19:52 < CIA-66> Should really read the proper source/html validate 19:52 < CIA-66> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/editing.html 19:52 < CIA-66> Replace yes for true 19:53 < ialex> NeKit: if you edit the pages in the MediaWiki namespace, yes 19:53 < wikibugs> (mod) Spellcheck attribute for editsummary - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21604 (sam) 19:53 < Reedy> thanks ialex :) 19:54 < NeKit> ialex: thanks 19:54 -!- aolko [i=aolko@212.106.37.114] has quit [] 19:54 < ialex> Reedy: that's not what I mean 19:55 -!- Dantman [n=dantman@wikia/dantman] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:55 < ialex> Reedy: the "spellcheck" attribute doesn't exist in XHTML 1.0 Transitional 19:55 < Reedy> Oh 19:55 -!- ireas [n=ireas@wikipedia/Ireas] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:56 < Reedy> I suppose if we change one to html.. They all should be.. 19:56 < Reedy> for that item 19:56 < ialex> (and please don't hardocode a check for $wgHtml5, use the Html class) 19:56 < wikibugs> (NEW) Add block and protection expiries to the watchlist - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21613 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Watchlist; (mike.lifeguard) 19:57 < NeKit> also, about Translatewiki.net 19:58 < NeKit> does it use some module or something 19:58 -!- Dantman [n=dantman@wikia/dantman] has joined #mediawiki 19:58 < ialex> !e Translate 19:58 < mwbot> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Translate 20:00 < kevindanko> is there a way to pull the thumbnail of the first image of an article and put it on another page automatically? 20:00 < kevindanko> like DPL or something? 20:00 < Bryan> no 20:00 -!- wolog_ [n=wolog@AOrleans-152-1-40-119.w90-21.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:00 -!- Bryan [n=launch@wikimedia-commons/Bryan] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 20:01 -!- wolog_ [n=wolog@AOrleans-152-1-29-253.w90-21.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #mediawiki 20:01 -!- Raymond_ [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:02 -!- RoanKattouw_away is now known as RoanKattouw 20:04 -!- Raymond_ [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has joined #mediawiki 20:05 -!- bsm [n=rob@port-92-203-74-59.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #mediawiki 20:06 < bsm> Hi, I'm using MediaWiki 1.15.1 and I have a quite funny problem. When I access a page that does not exist, you get the page where you can create it etc. In my Case, the links on that page are not rendered to links but simply the code for the links is shown, like this: 20:06 < bsm> Diese Seite enth"alt momentan noch keinen Text. Du kannst diesen Titel auf den anderen Seiten suchen, in den zugeh"origen [/wiki/index.php?title=Spezial:Log&page=Hauptseiteasd Logb"uchern suchen] oder diese Seite [/wiki/index.php?title=Hauptseiteasd&action=edit bearbeiten]. 20:07 < bsm> whereas the search link is shown, the others are not. ideas anyone? Or do I need a fresh install, as I upgraded all the way through from 1.12... 20:07 < RoanKattouw> bsm: Set $wgServer to the name of your site 20:07 < RoanKattouw> Like if your wiki is at http://www.example.com/wiki/Main_Page , set $wgServer = "http://www.example.com"; 20:08 < kevindanko> so there is no way to automatically pull a picture? 20:08 < Reedy> ialex: it would seem, adding it a boolean attribute, and then marking it as a html5 only attribute, should mean it gets dealt with by the Html class? 20:09 < ialex> Reedy: Html class can already handle this kind of stuff 20:09 < Reedy> Yes, thats what im saying 20:09 < Reedy> If i add it into its html5-only array 20:09 < ialex> yeah 20:09 < Reedy> It'll just preform the action on that aswell for me 20:09 < Reedy> hence not reinventing any wheel 20:11 < bsm> thanks RoanKattouw, now it doubles the server URL, but I think that I'm on the right way 20:11 < RoanKattouw> ha 20:11 -!- Scouse is now known as Scouse_away 20:11 < ialex> Reedy: just add it to the list and change Xml::input() to Html::input() 20:12 < Reedy> Exactly what i've done already :) 20:12 -!- siebrand [n=beis@82.95.171.213] has joined #mediawiki 20:12 < ialex> that should be fine 20:12 < Reedy> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://wikisvn.freeside.co.uk/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DMain_Page%26action%3Dedit&charset=(detect+automatically)&doctype=HTML5&group=0&user-agent=W3C_Validator/1.654 20:12 < Reedy> Seems to whinge about something though 20:12 -!- TrevorParscal [n=TrevorPa@216.38.133.254] has joined #mediawiki 20:13 < Reedy> wait, thats on 5.. 20:13 < Reedy> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://wikisvn.freeside.co.uk/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DMain_Page%26action%3Dedit&charset=(detect+automatically)&doctype=XHTML+1.0+Transitional&group=0&user-agent=W3C_Validator/1.654 20:13 < Reedy> XHTML 1.0 transitional, it doesnt 20:13 < RoanKattouw> werdna: I see you're playing with Live Preview in LQT. You should know that we're also working on a preview-in-another-tab thing that uses AJAX, except it uses the API instead of whatever specialist nonsense LP uses 20:14 < ialex> Reedy: to test with xhtml 1.0 transitional, set $wgHtml5=false; in LocalSettings.php 20:14 < werdna> RoanKattouw: "specialist nonsense"? 20:14 < RoanKattouw> Like sajax 20:14 < werdna> It submits the preview form and copies the #wpPreview, #catlinks, #langlinks and so on 20:14 < RoanKattouw> Something added especially for LP 20:14 -!- Scouse_away is now known as Scouse 20:14 < werdna> there's no sajax involved 20:14 < werdna> nor anything added especially for live preview. 20:15 < RoanKattouw> Oh right 20:15 < werdna> it also updates language links, category links, and included templates, something which I bet you don't do 20:15 < Reedy> ialex: sorted, thanks :) 20:15 < kevindanko> It seems to me that there should be a way to pull the first picture if you can pull text from an article via dpl 20:15 < werdna> http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/skins/common/preview.js?view=markup 20:15 < kevindanko> does anyone have any ideas? 20:16 < RoanKattouw> werdna: Yep, we don't do that, although we can easily pull that data 20:16 < werdna> and generate it yourself in JS (ew) 20:16 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59362 /trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/Mantis.php: Update optionals 20:16 < CIA-66> reedy * r59363 /trunk/phase3/includes/ (EditPage.php Html.php): 20:16 < CIA-66> Further followup to r59360 20:16 < CIA-66> Add spellcheck to html5attribs for blacklisting 20:16 < CIA-66> Switch from xml to html input 20:18 < ialex> Reedy: better, thanks :) 20:19 < Reedy> No problem, thanks for helping me fix it. Still getting used to mw ;) 20:19 < werdna> RoanKattouw: I think there are distinct advantages in preview.js as it stands over using the API 20:20 < RoanKattouw> Yeah I guess 20:20 < RoanKattouw> It's like an elegant way of screenscraping (oxymoron?) 20:20 < werdna> :) 20:20 < werdna> you can do screenscraping elegantly 20:21 -!- NeKit [i=nekit@95-83-29-207.saransk.ru] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:21 < werdna> this is love: http://p3rl.org/Web::Scraper 20:23 < wikibugs> (NEW) edit links are not aligned properly - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21614 major; Normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (churchill95) 20:23 < wikibugs> (mod) edit links are not aligned properly - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21614 (churchill95) 20:24 -!- _s_k_y_v2 is now known as _s_k_y_ 20:26 < CIA-66> catrope * r59364 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (5 files in 3 dirs): UsabilityInitiative: Make the TOC work nicely with the iframe. Mostly works now except for moving the cursor 20:27 -!- mdale1 [n=dale@187.134.34.187] has joined #mediawiki 20:27 -!- ikla [n=lbz@c-75-71-89-108.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #mediawiki 20:28 < ikla> Anything out there to convert Twiki pages to MediaWiki 20:30 < zrh> I'm looking at a MediaWiki skin ... the source code looks rather messy. Is it really necessary to have x lines of code just to the disclaimer link in the footer? 20:30 < zrh> http://dpaste.org/goY1/ 20:32 < CIA-66> raymond * r59365 /trunk/ (83 files in 59 dirs): Localisation updates for core and extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-11-23 19:00 UTC) 20:33 -!- LionsMane [n=don@c-98-216-253-71.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #mediawiki 20:33 -!- Haley [n=Haley@wikimedia/Dalibor-Bosits] has joined #mediawiki 20:33 < RoanKattouw> zrh: Yes, monobook is kind of a mess 20:34 -!- mikeschuld [n=mikeschu@209.137.232.180] has joined #mediawiki 20:34 < zrh> RoanKattouw: It's not MonoBook, it's just the suggested way to get a disclaimer link in the footer. I'm asking, however, if that' the proper way (see link to code example above) 20:36 < wikibugs> (mod) Categories should use (cont.) when breaking a letter's entries over to the next page - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16731 (Jason_quinn) 20:36 -!- MrZ-man [i=alexz@mediawiki/MrZ-man] has joined #mediawiki 20:36 -!- JC|AFK [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has joined #mediawiki 20:37 < MaxSem> ikla, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Twiki 20:39 -!- RoanKattouw is now known as RoanKattouw_away 20:41 -!- Scouse is now known as Scouse_away 20:43 < wikibugs> (NEW) retrievedfrom text: also URI encode "(" and ")" - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21615 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page rendering; (jidanni) 20:44 < CIA-66> tparscal * r59366 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/js/plugins/jquery.wikiEditor.js: Moved some things around to correct the calling order issues of context.setup(). 20:44 -!- bobinabottle [n=bobinabo@217.138.5.2] has quit [] 20:45 -!- mdale [n=dale@pdpc/supporter/student/mdale] has quit [Success] 20:45 < wikibugs> (mod) retrievedfrom text: also URI encode "(" and ")" - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21615 (jidanni) 20:47 -!- zocky [n=zocky@wikipedia/zocky] has joined #mediawiki 20:52 -!- freakolowsky [n=freakolo@BSN-77-157-221.dsl.siol.net] has quit ["oops did I do that"] 20:53 -!- JC|AFK [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has quit [Client Quit] 20:54 -!- Locos__epraix [n=chatzill@190.93.144.13] has joined #mediawiki 20:54 -!- aude [n=chatzill@wikipedia/Aude] has joined #mediawiki 21:02 < Nikerabbit> uh what 21:02 < Nikerabbit> that's for prints and people ain't clicking papers 21:02 < CIA-66> adam * r59367 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (5 files in 3 dirs): temporary fix for the calls to context.modules. in jquery.wikiEditor.toolbar.js introduced in r59152, minimal spacing fixes in jquery.wikiEditor.toc.js 21:03 -!- jthomas_sb [n=jthomas_@nat.sierrabravo.net] has joined #mediawiki 21:03 -!- Kaare is now known as KaareAway 21:04 -!- KaareAway is now known as Kaare 21:04 < jthomas_sb> When I was setting up a second instance of MediaWiki on a Debian server, I changed the default database from wikidb to wiki2db and a few other things. One that I changed is the 'Sysop' username to like 'Sysop2' but I am not sure exactly what I changed it to. Where can I find that config setting? I don't see it in LocalSettings.php 21:05 < jthomas_sb> when i moved the LocalSettings.php to reset this up, that didn't do the trick (why not??) 21:05 < jthomas_sb> i was hoping to have the chance to do it again 21:06 < Hendo001> hi again folks 21:06 < Hendo001> i'm back with more dumb questions lol 21:06 < MaxSem> jthomas_sb, accounts are set up in database, not config 21:07 < Hendo001> how do i make templates? i've looked at the help for templates but i just dont get it i know i'm dumb... do i make a page then add the stuff i want in my template to it? 21:08 -!- Scouse_away is now known as Scouse 21:10 -!- zrh [n=zrh@dynamic-80-242-196-229.catv.glattnet.ch] has left #mediawiki [] 21:12 -!- Reedy [n=Reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has quit ["KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 3472, sources date: 20090703, built on: 2009/09/02 21:14:09 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/"] 21:13 < jthomas_sb> MaxSem can you tell me how to see those accounts then? 21:13 < jthomas_sb> MySQL 21:17 < wikibugs> (NEW) HTML Parsing Error in IE8 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21616 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: Maps; (umherirrender_de.wp) 21:19 < jthomas_sb> MaxSem are the accounts set up in the wiki2db i created? in the mysql.users database? in information_schema ? 21:19 -!- jMyles [n=justin@ip72-192-1-214.ri.ri.cox.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:20 -!- TravelerDave [n=traveler@c-24-62-168-145.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #mediawiki 21:20 < TravelerDave> hey 21:22 < TravelerDave> I'm having a mediawiki skin coded right now, and the coder is telling me that there's no way to do what I want done 21:22 -!- RoanKattouw_away is now known as RoanKattouw 21:23 < TravelerDave> I want the main page to have a section that displays the most recently created pages, an excerpt from that page, and a thumbnail of an image on that page 21:23 -!- akozak [n=alex@adsl-71-134-253-152.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit ["*sigh*... have to boot into windows"] 21:24 -!- Scouse is now known as Scouse_away 21:24 < TravelerDave> Any reason why this couldn't be done? It seems to me that since there is a DynamicPageList extension that allows you to display the most recent pages, and there are automatically generated thumbnails for each image, it shouldn't be that difficult to put those two features together 21:24 < TravelerDave> any opinion? 21:26 < RoanKattouw> !templates | Hendo001 21:26 < mwbot> Hendo001: For more information about templates, see . See also: !templateproblems 21:26 < jthomas_sb> MaxSem nevermind i got it. Thanks... 21:28 < wikibugs> (mod) retrievedfrom text: also URI encode "(" and ")" - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21615 +comment (roan.kattouw) 21:28 -!- SPQRobin [n=Robin@wikimedia/SPQRobin] has joined #mediawiki 21:28 < RoanKattouw> TravelerDave: Probably not doable in an efficient way 21:28 < RoanKattouw> Getting the most recently created pages is not something our database schema is suited for well 21:29 -!- Scouse_away is now known as Scouse 21:31 -!- foksieyl [n=Miranda@93-141-110-174.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #mediawiki 21:32 < wikibugs> (mod) edit links are not aligned properly - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21614 +comment (roan.kattouw) 21:32 < wikibugs> (mod) Make section edit links more usable/understandable - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11270 (roan.kattouw) 21:34 -!- MaxSem [n=max@wikimedia/MaxSem] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:34 < CIA-66> dantman * r59368 /trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/ (SF_FormInputs.inc SF_FormPrinter.inc SF_FormUtils.inc): Fix newline inside input which breaks embedding forms. Add support for class/style inside standard input buttons. 21:34 -!- Locos__epraix [n=chatzill@190.93.144.13] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 21:36 -!- akozak [n=alex@adsl-71-134-253-152.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #mediawiki 21:37 < TravelerDave> Roan, I guess I don't really know much about how the schema so I can't argue with you on that. What about doing the same thing, except displaying the pages that have been most recently edited. That obviously works fine because mediawiki already has the recently edited page. Could one use that list and then display an excerpt from those pages with an image thumbnail on teh main page? 21:38 < RoanKattouw> TravelerDave: Getting the most recently edited pages is no problem, just grab it from the recentchanges table. Displaying an excerpt should be easy too, just grab the content and cut it off somewhere 21:38 < RoanKattouw> The problem is with the thumbnail 21:38 < RoanKattouw> The DB schema has no concept of a "first" image on a page 21:39 < RoanKattouw> That's not easily queryable, so you'd have to look for [[Image: in the page text, but that's riddled with problems 21:39 < RoanKattouw> (The page could be using File: instead of Image:, or the thumbnail you want could be put there by a template) 21:40 < wikibugs> (mod) retrievedfrom text: also URI encode "(" and ")" - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21615 (jidanni) 21:40 -!- NCarter [n=ncarter@mail.amd.gb.com] has quit ["Off home, back later...."] 21:41 < Nikerabbit> hi RoanKattouw 21:41 < TravelerDave> I don't really know what I'm talking about here, but would there be any way to modify the code so that images have a tag, sort of like [[Image-tag:]] 21:42 < RoanKattouw> Hi Nike 21:42 < TravelerDave> and then you could look for that tag only 21:42 < RoanKattouw> TravelerDave: Wouldn't help if you were looking at the wikitext 21:42 < RoanKattouw> You could do it the naive way as long as you make sure all pages use the same format 21:42 < RoanKattouw> I.e. always use File: , never use Image: , and either always or never let the first image be generated by a template 21:43 < wikibugs> (mod) retrievedfrom text: also URI encode "(" and ")" - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21615 (roan.kattouw) 21:43 -!- Mike_lifeguard is now known as Mike||gone 21:43 -!- RoanKattouw [n=RoanKatt@mediawiki/Catrope] has quit ["zzzzzzzz"] 21:44 -!- indro [n=indro@212.203.74.20] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:48 < Scouse> i need help with templates still 21:49 -!- foksieloy [n=Miranda@78.1.149.157] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:49 < Hendo001> hey folks u know when u make a template for info boxes 21:49 < Hendo001> on the actual template page do i put the info i need such as the headings i want to show in the info box? 21:51 < wikibugs> (mod) retrievedfrom text: also URI encode "(" and ")" - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21615 (jidanni) 21:53 < Hendo001> anyone? 21:54 < Saruman> Hendo001, depends on what you want 21:54 < Saruman> you could make the headings variable, and put them through to the info box 21:55 < Saruman> {{HendoInfoBox|heading=alert|msg=Something is very wrong}} 21:55 -!- kim__ [n=kim@bruning.xs4all.nl] has joined #mediawiki 21:55 < Hendo001> no what i want is to be able to put the headings in like the Class of a ship 21:55 < Hendo001> its dimentions 21:56 < Saruman> hmm sounds more like you need the SMW extension 21:56 * kim__ drops into what sounds like a semantic mediawiki discussion? 21:56 < Hendo001> smw? 21:56 < Saruman> then the infobox can get the class of ship with a semantic query 21:56 < kim__> Saruman, Bingo! ;-) 21:56 < Saruman> Semantic MediaWiki 21:56 < Hendo001> where do i find that extention? 21:56 < Hendo001> and is it what i need? 21:57 < Saruman> http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Introduction_to_Semantic_MediaWiki 21:57 < kim__> it may be 21:57 < Saruman> and it may be 21:57 < kim__> bingo*2 21:57 < Hendo001> i'm sorry i know i'm dumb as hell today lol 21:57 < wikibugs> (mod) Spellcheck attribute for editsummary - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21604 (davidg) 21:57 < Saruman> note: SMW takes some time to learn 21:57 < kim__> Hendo001, nah, you ask questions 'cause you want to learn ;-) 21:57 < kim__> Hendo001, so you're smart 21:57 < Hendo001> :) thx 21:57 < Saruman> so if you need the power only in a couple of places, it may not be worth the wile 21:58 * kim__ is amused because Saruman is saying practically the same things I am and hitting enter at the same time ;-) 21:58 < Hendo001> u see the page u linked me to 21:58 < kim__> Saruman, meh, semantic isn't SO hard to learn 21:58 < kim__> semantic forms is easy enough too 21:58 < Hendo001> it has a box on the right with like links in it 21:58 < Hendo001> i want something simlar 21:58 < Saruman> well, I'm not as smart as Hendo001 :-p 21:58 < Hendo001> but with 21:58 < Hendo001> | classname = 21:58 < Hendo001> | length = 21:58 < Hendo001> | draft = 21:58 < Hendo001> | beam = 21:58 < Hendo001> | displacement = 21:58 < Hendo001> | cruising = 21:58 < Hendo001> | maximum = 21:58 < kim__> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_MediaWiki 21:58 < Hendo001> | defenses = 21:58 < Hendo001> | offenses = 21:58 < Hendo001> | commissioned = 21:58 < Hendo001> |customize slots = 21:59 < Hendo001> like that and to be able to use it on like 20+ pages 21:59 < kim__> Hendo001, Oh, purrrfect... yeah. use semantic mediawiki, and the semantic forms extension for that 21:59 < Saruman> ahhh that's all fodder for SMW 21:59 < Saruman> SF FTW! 21:59 < kim__> (semantic mediawiki is so sophisticated , it actually has plugins... and plugins for plugins ;-)) 21:59 < Saruman> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SemanticForms 22:00 < Hendo001> plz dont confuse me lol 22:00 < Saruman> Hendo001, feel free to join #semanticmediawiki for questions on SMW 22:00 < Hendo001> will do in about 2 mins 22:00 < Hendo001> got some reading to do loll 22:01 -!- indro [n=indro@212.203.74.20] has joined #mediawiki 22:01 -!- indro [n=indro@212.203.74.20] has quit [Client Quit] 22:01 < Hendo001> do i need an svn client to d/l semantic? 22:01 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:01 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has joined #mediawiki 22:01 < Saruman> no 22:01 < Hendo001> ok 22:01 < Hendo001> http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Download so just the 1 of 2 packages at the bottom then? 22:02 < Saruman> http://sourceforge.net/projects/semediawiki/files/ 22:02 < Saruman> that's the stable 1.4.3 22:02 < Hendo001> kk 22:02 < jdpond> Hendo001: But it might help - SMW/SF are highly dynamic, you may want to create a local version and use svn update instead of redownloading all the time. 22:02 < kim__> Hendo001, by the way, svn clients are always a good idea :-) 22:03 < kim__> (git clients potentially a better idea, but I haven't researched ;_)) 22:03 < Saruman> push push! more info! 22:03 < Hendo001> yeha i know i've used svn for killboards for eve online :) 22:03 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has joined #mediawiki 22:03 < Hendo001> although i havent used svn in like 2-3 years now n forgotten most of it lol 22:04 -!- SB_Johnny [n=SB_Johnn@c-98-235-177-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #mediawiki 22:04 -!- Saruman is now known as Saru_gaming 22:05 -!- SPQRobin [n=Robin@wikimedia/SPQRobin] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:05 -!- Cain` [n=Geek@unaffiliated/cain] has joined #MediaWiki 22:05 -!- Kanor| [n=kanor@dslb-084-058-142-095.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #mediawiki 22:05 -!- Kanor| is now known as Kanor- 22:07 -!- flubub1114 [n=Flubub@92.75.106.50] has quit ["Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de"] 22:09 -!- aZaFred [n=aZaFred@wikimedia/Azafred] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:09 -!- Cain [n=Geek@unaffiliated/cain] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:09 -!- Cain` is now known as Cain 22:12 < wikibugs> (FIXED) The conf files cannot be downloaded from the noc portal - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21588 +comment (Platonides) 22:16 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@wikipedia/duesentrieb] has joined #mediawiki 22:17 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has quit ["Some people are like slinkies. 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DUH! 22:20 < kim__> so up the memory limit in LocalSettings.php 22:20 < Hendo001> i installed it and ran the database stuff it said on the wiki page 22:21 < kim__> they have it set pathetically low by default 22:21 < Hendo001> 2 secs 22:21 < kim__> add an extra 0 or so 22:21 < Hendo001> #ini_set( 'memory_limit', '20M' ); should i remove the # and then reupload my localssettings? 22:22 < kim__> and add an extra 0 ;-) 22:22 < kim__> oh hmm, dunno, if you're on some cheap hosting service ... 22:22 < Hendo001> that had a # infront of it in my local thing 22:22 < kim__> still try to add an extra 0, and see where it breaks later :-P 22:23 -!- kevindanko [n=Kevindan@205.232.42.46] has quit [] 22:23 < Hendo001> nah i've got decent hosting 22:23 < kim__> Hendo001, sure, fine. :-) 22:23 < Hendo001> i got ssh n stuff :) 22:23 < kim__> Hendo001, you're talking about uploading as opposed to editing it in vi or nano ;-) 22:23 < kim__> Oh ok, :-P 22:23 < Hendo001> i know :) 22:23 < kim__> if you got ssh, consider using rsync as well :-) 22:24 < kim__> Ok, I'll hush about that now. Up your memory limit, cross fingers and toes, and on y va tous! 22:24 -!- stephan48 [n=rjp@pdpc/supporter/student/stephan48] has quit ["get satisfied! • :: ««« (Gamers.IRC) »»» ::"] 22:24 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has joined #mediawiki 22:24 < Hendo001> i dunno much about ssh lol 22:24 < Hendo001> i've never really used it 22:24 < Hendo001> lol adding the 0 did the trick :) 22:25 < kim__> Hendo001, okay... so ssh is your bestest bestest bestest friend ever 22:25 < kim__> and you've never talked with hir ? 22:25 < Hendo001> lol 22:25 < Hendo001> not really no :( 22:25 < Hendo001> i know nothin! 22:25 < Hendo001> lol 22:25 < Hendo001> ok i got semantic installed and its working 22:25 < kim__> okay, so ssh+text-editor is sufficient to basically build the entire internet 22:25 < Hendo001> i even annoucned it too :) 22:25 < kim__> Cool! 22:26 < kim__> now go forth and play? :-) 22:26 -!- ans-tot1222 [n=sysadmin@118.174.34.244.adsl.dynamic.totbb.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:26 < Hendo001> yeah i know i use notepad++ 22:26 < kim__> and like, have fun! 22:26 -!- werdan7 [n=w7@freenode/staff/wikimedia.werdan7] has joined #mediawiki 22:26 < Hendo001> lol i dunno where to start 22:26 < kim__> Hendo001, I'm not sure notepad++ quite works over ssh ;-) 22:26 < kim__> Hendo001, well, make some simple pages... 22:26 < Hendo001> no i use putty for that 22:26 < kim__> putty++ 22:26 < kim__> :-) 22:26 < Hendo001> i have loads of pages :) 22:26 < kim__> ah yeah, but none with semantic tags yet ;-) 22:27 < kim__> okay 22:27 < kim__> there's 2 ways to get into this 22:27 < Saruman> Hendo come over to #semanticmediawiki so we don't bore the #mediawiki guys with {{ask: stuff 22:27 < Hendo001> ok 22:27 < Saruman> kim, wanna join? 22:27 < kim__> OH! there's an actual separate channel now? 22:27 < kim__> Saruman, I thought you'd never ask! 22:28 -!- aZaFred [n=aZaFred@wikimedia/Azafred] has joined #mediawiki 22:29 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:29 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has joined #mediawiki 22:36 -!- bsm [n=rob@port-92-203-74-59.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:39 -!- zocky [n=zocky@wikipedia/zocky] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:39 -!- TravelerDave [n=traveler@c-24-62-168-145.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:44 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has quit ["Some people are like slinkies. 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