--- Log opened Tue Nov 24 00:00:15 2009 00:00 -!- Hendo001 is now known as Hendo001|away 00:00 < deathgleaner> flyingparchment: where can I find a list for all the interface text that you see on a Main namespace? 00:00 < deathgleaner> kim__: where can I find a list for all the interface text that you see on a Main namespace? 00:00 < kim__> You only need to ask once 00:00 -!- Anubisss [i=Anubisss@ip-174-175-userpool.zeg.zelkanet.hu] has quit ["Haromfajta ember van. Aki tud szamolni es aki nem."] 00:00 < kim__> deathgleaner, I keep forgetting where that is hidden ... 00:01 < kim__> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AllMessages 00:01 < kim__> here's a good one 00:01 < deathgleaner> kim__: the interface text in the main namespace? 00:01 < deathgleaner> kim__: cuz i found one for the Special:Upload page 00:01 < deathgleaner> kim__: ok shutting up, i'll check it out now 00:02 < kim__> don't need to shut up. Just be concise and ask what you need. We *are* here to help you :-) 00:02 < deathgleaner> kim__: yeah, i already looked at that. so :) that's the interface text for the ENTIRE wiki 00:02 < deathgleaner> kim__: like, special pages, help pages, etc. 00:02 < kim__> yes 00:02 < kim__> so you'll be able to find it in there, at least 00:03 < kim__> why do you need the text? 00:03 < deathgleaner> kim__: oh, to custmize my wiki's interface 00:03 < deathgleaner> kim__: actually, let me look into that list... 00:03 < kim__> deathgleaner, there's a filter by prefix option too 00:03 < kim__> and by language 00:03 < kim__> incidentally translatewiki.net also does translations 00:03 < kim__> so you have a lot of options ;-) 00:03 < deathgleaner> kim__: what is that filter? i don't need translations. 00:04 < deathgleaner> kim__: well i guess that whittles me down to one question. 00:04 < deathgleaner> kim__: so the edit toolbar at the top 00:04 < deathgleaner> kim__: is there any way i can change that thru the MW namespace? 00:04 < kim__> the filter should help you filter for each namespace 00:05 < deathgleaner> kim__: let me look into that 00:05 < kim__> the edit toolbar? I think that's done separately 00:05 < kim__> (in the skin) 00:05 < deathgleaner> kim__: can you give me details on that? 00:05 < deathgleaner> kim__: oh... i found the filter :) :) 00:05 -!- bawolff [n=chatzill@wikinews/bawolff] has joined #mediawiki 00:06 < deathgleaner> kim__: that helps! woa! 00:06 < kim__> not a big expert on skins, sorry. ^^;; 00:07 < deathgleaner> kim__: anyone on this channel an expert? 00:08 < bawolff> Anychance the api could be made to send the right mime types when using &xslt parameter? 00:09 -!- jthomas_sb [n=jthomas_@nat.sierrabravo.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 00:10 < kim__> deathgleaner, well, see how far you get with this alone?:-) 00:10 < deathgleaner> kim__: actually this isn't important right now... 00:10 < deathgleaner> kim__: but there's one more thing. I'll check again, but if the problem comes up again, then i'll contact you 00:10 < kim__> deathgleaner, Ok, then ask questions about something that is important ;-) 00:11 < kim__> deathgleaner, people will always be around. Just ask a question if/when you have one. 00:12 -!- LionsMane [n=don@c-98-216-253-71.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 00:12 < wikibugs> (mod) XSLT parameter to API queries - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19528 (bawolff+wn) 00:13 -!- JC|AFK [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox 3.0.15/2009101601]"] 00:13 -!- GreenHoliday is now known as GreenReaper 00:14 < Dantman> Ugh, something about a combination of Special page inclusion breaks imagemap 00:15 -!- SB_Johnny [n=SB_Johnn@c-98-235-177-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #mediawiki 00:16 -!- Tim-away is now known as TimStarling 00:16 -!- [[sroracle]] [n=sroracle@c-98-215-178-14.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #mediawiki 00:17 < deathgleaner> kim__: ok so i tried filtering by namespace, but i don't think that actually filters for a namespace 00:17 < deathgleaner> kim__: it just filters to everything starting with a, b, c, etc. 00:17 < kim__> deathgleaner, play around a bit :-) 00:17 < deathgleaner> kim__: got ya 00:17 < kim__> deathgleaner, you could filter to anything starting with.... I dunno template: or so ? ;-) 00:18 < deathgleaner> kim__: there's unmodified modified and all 00:18 < deathgleaner> kim__: hmmm... 00:19 < deathgleaner> kim__: see, look at this - http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki_SpecialUpload_interface_labelled.png 00:20 < deathgleaner> kim__: i was looking for somthin like that, but instead for a page in the Main:namespace 00:22 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@wikipedia/duesentrieb] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 00:22 < kim__> deathgleaner,I'm not sure. Ask some experts here? :-) 00:23 < deathgleaner> HELLO? ANY EXPERTS ON INTERFACE TEXT? 00:23 -!- ThraShown [n=Miranda@87.13.208.186] has joined #mediawiki 00:23 -!- BR451 [n=brice@AToulouse-256-1-97-107.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #mediawiki 00:24 < kim__> deathgleaner, that won't do it 00:24 < kim__> deathgleaner, :-P 00:24 < kim__> deathgleaner, anyway, you already have some tools, see how far you get with those. 00:24 < deathgleaner> kim__: yeah... 00:24 < deathgleaner> kim__: i'll check back later 00:24 < deathgleaner> bye everyone 00:25 < BR451> Hi 00:26 < kim__> hello 00:26 < BR451> I'm new with the CMS mediawiki 00:26 < BR451> and i have a problem 00:26 < Natalie> !infobox 00:26 < mwbot> I don't know anything about "infobox". 00:26 < Natalie> Useless bot. 00:26 < Natalie> @search infobox 00:26 < mwbot> Results: [] 00:26 < BR451> (my first problem, it s my englizsh, sorry about this please ;) ) 00:26 < Natalie> Infoboxes are just templates. 00:26 < Natalie> !template 00:26 < mwbot> For more information about templates, see . See also: !templateproblems 00:26 -!- rainman-sr [n=rainman@flywall.sysbiol.cam.ac.uk] has quit ["Leaving"] 00:27 < BR451> Thx Natalie 00:27 < BR451> i have read that .... 00:30 -!- deathgleaner [n=chatzill@174-21-115-11.tukw.qwest.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102134505]"] 00:30 < kim__> take a look at an infobox on the english wikipedia, and snarf the wikicode for yourself 00:30 < kim__> (They prolly throw in some CSS) 00:30 < BR451> yes, and it's my problem 00:31 < BR451> i cant do nothing without CSS ? 00:32 -!- Dr_DBW [n=dallas@morph.vcp.monash.edu.au] has joined #mediawiki 00:33 < wikibugs> (mod) safe referencing the newest version of page using one of its history id - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21572 (Platonides) 00:34 -!- SB_Johnny [n=SB_Johnn@c-98-235-177-2.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [] 00:34 -!- kim__ is now known as kim_bruning 00:35 -!- Shown [n=Miranda@87.13.208.186] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:37 -!- carl-m [n=cbm@wikipedia/cbm] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:37 -!- cps0 [n=cps0@143.107.109.46] has quit [Read error: 148 (No route to host)] 00:40 -!- Platonides [n=Platonid@wikipedia/Platonides] has quit [] 00:40 -!- carl-m [n=cbm@wikipedia/cbm] has joined #mediawiki 00:40 -!- FoeNyx [n=Nicolas@wikipedia/FoeNyx] has quit ["LHC lights my dreams zzz"] 00:41 -!- carl-m_ [n=cbm@76.26.67.169] has joined #mediawiki 00:44 -!- simNIX [n=simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net] has joined #mediawiki 00:47 -!- Dr_DBW [n=dallas@morph.vcp.monash.edu.au] has quit ["Time to be somewhere I would rather be ..."] 00:48 -!- BR451 [n=brice@AToulouse-256-1-97-107.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 00:50 -!- BR451 [n=brice@AToulouse-256-1-15-207.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #mediawiki 00:51 -!- yannf [n=yannf@wikipedia/yannf] has quit ["Like the Truth, I am elsewhere..."] 00:51 < Amgine> kim__ Actually, the en.wp infoboxes are some of the most complex templates ever made for Mediawiki. 00:51 -!- carl-m [n=cbm@wikipedia/cbm] has left #mediawiki [] 00:52 < Natalie> Lies. 00:52 < Amgine> BR451: I strongly encourage you to design your own infobox using the ideas presented in the boxes on the English Wikipedia. 00:52 < Amgine> heh, Natalie. Maybe not, but they're still evil. 00:53 < kim_bruning> Amgine, I just copy and paste... they're all GFDL anyway O:-) 00:53 < Amgine> (was into the third or fourth level of nesting before I gave up) 00:53 < Amgine> It's the sheer number of javascript, css dependencies, kim_bruning. 00:54 < BR451> :'( 00:54 < Amgine> Maybe en.wp templates should be required to list all their dependencies. 00:54 < Natalie> There's very little (if any) JS dependencies. 00:54 < Natalie> There's some CSS. That's a bit of extra copying and pasting. 00:54 < Natalie> Not sure what the big deal is. 00:54 < Amgine> Natalie: How are you on jet turbine engines? 00:55 < Natalie> Very poor. 00:55 < GreenReaper> This is neat: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/new-site-hierarchies-display-in-search.html - works with Extension:Breadcrumbs2 00:55 < kim_bruning> Amgine, there's some very simple infoboxes somewhere 00:55 < kim_bruning> Amgine, jet turbine engines? 00:55 < bawolff> BR451 try putting it through special:expandtemplates on en wp before exporting it, that way its only css dependencies you have to worry about and not template dependencies 00:55 < Amgine> The comparison is: many people like to fly, but they can't necessarily put the engine together. 00:55 < kim_bruning> Amgine, ah 00:56 -!- phyrex1an [n=phyrex1a@bumik.csbnet.se] has quit ["Leaving."] 00:56 < Amgine> 00:57 < kim_bruning> Amgine, ditto 00:57 -!- cps0 [n=cps0@143.107.109.46] has joined #mediawiki 00:58 -!- BR451 [n=brice@AToulouse-256-1-15-207.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 00:58 -!- BradLee [n=chatzill@CPE-121-214-97-81.lnse4.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #mediawiki 00:59 -!- BR451 [n=brice@AToulouse-256-1-76-40.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #mediawiki 01:00 < BR451> bawolff: Thx for the tip, i will try to proced in this way ... If i can do that.. i'm not sure to understand all your sentense ;) 01:00 < CIA-66> aaron * r59372 /trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/ (FlaggedRevs.hooks.php FlaggedRevs.sql): 01:00 < CIA-66> * line breaks 01:00 < CIA-66> * doc fix 01:01 < BR451> ..but i have understand the "way" 01:03 -!- Church_of_emacs [n=CoE@wikipedia/Church-of-emacs] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:04 < bawolff> BR451: basically try going to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ExpandTemplates put {{template name}} into the box hit ok, and copy the output 01:04 -!- carl-m_ [n=cbm@wikipedia/cbm] has quit ["leaving"] 01:04 < bawolff> (of course than, the infobox probably won't accept any parameters 01:05 -!- carl-m [n=cbm@wikipedia/cbm] has joined #mediawiki 01:05 < bawolff> special:Export might be a better bet 01:07 < bawolff> BR451: do you have a link to your wiki so i can see what is wrong? 01:07 < BR451> it's a local network at the moment 01:07 < BR451> dev version :p 01:07 < BR451> not uploaded yet 01:08 < bawolff> oh ok 01:08 < BR451> it's my firsts steps in wiki CMS world 01:09 < Natalie> Wikis aren't really CMSs. 01:09 < Natalie> At least MediaWiki really isn't. 01:09 < kim_bruning> BR451, a wiki is a wiki ;-) 01:10 < BR451> ok ;) not realy important :) 01:10 < BR451> it s a good program i i want learn it :) 01:10 < BR451> and i want* 01:10 * bawolff doesn't know, he sees some very cms-ey mediawiki stuff 01:11 < bawolff> BR451: If your experiancing problems with css, you could probably just copy wikipedia's css file 01:11 < bawolff> (copy wikipedia page mediawiki:Common.css to the same page on your wiki 01:12 < BR451> mediawiki:Common.css is the way, i'm sure 01:12 < BR451> thx a lot :) 01:13 -!- Bdka [n=bdk@wikipedia/bdka] has quit [Excess Flood] 01:13 < BR451> (sry about my english, sometime you must repeat me so often :p ) 01:13 < bawolff> not a problem, its not to bad 01:15 -!- nb [n=nb@pdpc/supporter/active/fedora.nb] has joined #mediawiki 01:15 -!- xbaez [n=xbaez@200.34.201.2] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:17 -!- dungodung is now known as dungodung|sleep 01:19 -!- aZaFred [n=aZaFred@wikimedia/Azafred] has quit [Excess Flood] 01:19 -!- aZaFred [n=aZaFred@wikimedia/Azafred] has joined #mediawiki 01:28 -!- mikeschuld [n=mikeschu@209.137.232.180] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:36 -!- Haley [n=Haley@wikimedia/Dalibor-Bosits] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 01:39 -!- kajework [n=kaje@ip-71.technology-specialists.com] has joined #mediawiki 01:40 -!- kim_bruning [n=kim@bruning.xs4all.nl] has quit ["Leaving"] 01:40 < wikibugs> (NEW) 406 Not Acceptable from the text browser - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21617 major; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (marcin.cieslak) 01:43 < wikibugs> (NEW) Interwiki map on wikitech - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21618 trivial; Normal; Wikimedia: Interwiki links; (marcin.cieslak) 01:43 < kajework> I'm looking for an extension that allows people to set a content rating on an article and then whenever an internal link to the article is added to another page, an icon indicating the destination article's rating is appended to the end of the link text. Anyone know of something that can do this? 01:43 < wikibugs> (mod) safe referencing the newest version of page using one of its history id - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21572 (gangleri) 01:46 < wikibugs> (mod) Interwiki map on wikitech - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21618 +comment (sam) 01:46 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has joined #mediawiki 01:47 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@dhcp-077-250-053-164.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:50 -!- Laura|Dentist is now known as LauraHale 01:51 < wikibugs> (mod) HTML Parsing Error in IE8 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21616 enhancement->normal (sam) 01:52 -!- aZaFred [n=aZaFred@wikimedia/Azafred] has quit ["Leaving..."] 01:52 < wikibugs> (mod) Please enable the deleterevision right for the sysop group on en.wiki - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21165 +comment (xenowiki) 01:53 < wikibugs> (mod) HTML Parsing Error in IE8 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21616 (sam) 01:53 < wikibugs> (mod) safe referencing the newest version of page using one of its history id - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21572 (gangleri) 01:53 -!- Papiertiger [i=tiger@e180067117.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #mediawiki 01:54 < wikibugs> (mod) Base Wikipedia link fix for be-x-old usage statistics - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21043 (ezachte) 01:56 -!- carl-m is now known as carl-m|away 01:57 -!- chomwitt [n=chomwitt@ppp-94-66-170-32.home.otenet.gr] has quit ["Lost terminal"] 01:59 < wikibugs> (NEW) Various forms 'ignoring' submissions - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21619 major; Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (w-dueck) 02:00 -!- AndreU [n=AndreU@78.53.147.75] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:00 -!- AndreU_ [n=AndreU@f053147075.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #mediawiki 02:01 < wikibugs> (mod) Interwiki map on wikitech - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21618 (marcin.cieslak) 02:03 -!- AndreU_ [n=AndreU@f053147075.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 02:03 -!- AndreU [n=AndreU@78.53.147.75] has joined #mediawiki 02:05 < CIA-66> dantman * r59373 /trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/ (includes/SF_FormPrinter.inc specials/SF_RunQuery.php): Fixes for embedded forms. Don't preprocess, and replace the strip state. 02:07 < CIA-66> nimishg * r59374 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ClickTracking/ (4 files): Formatting changes using stylize 02:07 < wikibugs> (mod) Update wikitech interwiki map to match other wmf projects - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21618 +shell; summary; +comment (sam) 02:10 -!- Papertiger [i=tiger@e180064117.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 02:10 < Dantman> Ugh, jQuery ui is using bad border radius and MW is using it 02:11 -!- Reedy [n=Reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has quit ["KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 3472, sources date: 20090703, built on: 2009/09/02 21:14:09 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/"] 02:11 -!- JC [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has joined #mediawiki 02:15 -!- MarkDilley [n=MarkDill@173.8.216.62] has quit [] 02:16 -!- dungodung|sleep [n=felix@wikimedia/dungodung] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:18 -!- Kriegy [i=45b51eca@gateway/web/freenode/x-bleuwgedsomwdohv] has joined #mediawiki 02:18 < Kriegy> Hi 02:18 < LauraHale> Hello 02:19 < Kriegy> I have a problem after installing a new mediawiki : a blank page 02:19 < wikibugs> (NEW) Version of wikimedia ch is outdated - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21620 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Subversion; (arseny92) 02:19 < Kriegy> there is nothing, no html in the source, this is just blank 02:19 < Kriegy> I don't understand why 02:20 -!- BR4511 [n=brice@AToulouse-256-1-16-180.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #mediawiki 02:21 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@dhcp-077-250-053-164.chello.nl] has joined #mediawiki 02:21 < Kriegy> Everythings seems correct on the installation page, the tables are created and filled... so I don't understand why there is nothing 02:22 -!- infinisoft [i=infiniso@r70h97.res.gatech.edu] has joined #mediawiki 02:24 -!- Kriegy [i=45b51eca@gateway/web/freenode/x-bleuwgedsomwdohv] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 02:25 -!- Kriegy [i=45b51eca@gateway/web/freenode/x-mhhhctexjebpuspl] has joined #mediawiki 02:27 -!- Prodego [n=Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego] has joined #mediawiki 02:28 -!- Netsplit calkins.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: Merlissimo, jwit, GreenReaper, werdna 02:29 -!- Netsplit over, joins: werdna, Merlissimo, GreenReaper, jwit 02:29 -!- JW|AFK [i=jake@wikipedia/jake-wartenberg] has joined #mediawiki 02:30 -!- TrevorParscal [n=TrevorPa@216.38.133.254] has quit [] 02:31 -!- kajework [n=kaje@ip-71.technology-specialists.com] has quit [] 02:32 -!- Jake_Wartenberg [i=jake@wikipedia/jake-wartenberg] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 02:33 < Kriegy> Ok, found it : it was the memory limit, I set it to 32M in the LocalSettings.php 02:33 < Kriegy> now it's OK 02:33 -!- BR451 [n=brice@AToulouse-256-1-76-40.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:36 -!- dungodung [n=felix@wikimedia/dungodung] has joined #mediawiki 02:36 -!- Kriegy [i=45b51eca@gateway/web/freenode/x-mhhhctexjebpuspl] has quit [Ping timeout: 180 seconds] 02:37 -!- mikeschuld [n=mikeschu@153.90.85.24] has joined #mediawiki 02:37 -!- mikeschuld [n=mikeschu@153.90.85.24] has quit [Client Quit] 02:39 -!- JW|AFK is now known as Jake_Wartenberg 02:40 -!- kajework [n=kaje@ip-71.technology-specialists.com] has joined #mediawiki 02:43 -!- j^_ [n=j@e179068092.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #mediawiki 02:46 -!- atglenn [n=ariel@wiktionary/ArielGlenn] has quit ["Leaving."] 02:46 < wikibugs> (mod) add info about auto groups membership (autoconfirmed, autoreviewer, ..) to Special:UserRights - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21593 (paul.copperman) 02:48 -!- j^ [n=j@e179078218.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 02:54 -!- carl-m|away is now known as carl-m 02:55 < wikibugs> (NEW) special:ExpandTemplates does not close tags properly - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21621 enhancement; 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Normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (rcs) 03:39 -!- Raymond_ [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has joined #mediawiki 03:48 -!- saiyr [n=saiyr@c-67-173-183-200.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 03:49 -!- fotoflo [n=chatzill@123.125.40.250] has joined #mediawiki 03:49 < fotoflo> hmm, is there a plugin that will allow me to search the contents of uploaded ppt files ? 03:51 < Amgine> !extensions 03:51 < mwbot> MediaWiki has been built so it can easily be customized by adding extensions. This is usually a simple process. See for instructions to install extensions, as well as for writing them. See for an overview of known extensions. 03:51 < fotoflo> thanks :-/ 03:52 < Amgine> I don't know of one, but it's hard to be aware of more than a tiny fraction of the extensions available. 03:52 < Amgine> Thus, Extension Matrix 03:56 -!- saiyr [n=saiyr@67.173.183.200] has joined #mediawiki 03:56 -!- Raymond_afk [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:02 -!- Dantman [n=dantman@wikia/dantman] has joined #mediawiki 04:14 -!- LionsMane [n=don@nat.lionsmane.org] has joined #mediawiki 04:19 -!- LionsMane [n=don@nat.lionsmane.org] has quit ["Leaving."] 04:23 -!- Suiseiseki [n=desudesu@cpe-76-183-145-33.tx.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:24 -!- Suiseiseki [i=desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has joined #mediawiki 04:24 < TimStarling> the PHP platform isn't particularly kind to MS Office integration 04:26 -!- carl-m is now known as carl-m|away 04:30 < wikibugs> (mod) XSLT parameter to API queries - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19528 (bawolff+wn) 04:30 -!- Emufarmers [i=Emufarme@mediawiki/Emufarmers] has joined #mediawiki 04:32 -!- MarkDilley [n=MarkDill@c-76-27-236-154.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #Mediawiki 04:34 -!- ITrace [n=justinst@75-167-123-91.desm.qwest.net] has joined #mediawiki 04:37 -!- LauraHale [n=laurahal@adsl-99-142-42-96.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [] 04:42 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has quit ["Some people are like slinkies. They're not good for anything except pushing them down stairs."] 04:43 -!- Jake_Wartenberg is now known as JW|AFK 04:45 -!- MarkDilley [n=MarkDill@c-76-27-236-154.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [] 04:45 < Emufarmers> http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Extension:Maps&curid=38667&diff=288594&oldid=288583 Maps is part of a complete breakfast. 04:50 -!- andi_ [n=andi@pD9FF5DBF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mediawiki 04:52 < Amgine> 04:52 -!- uberfuzzy [n=ubrfzy@wikia/Uberfuzzy] has joined #mediawiki 04:53 -!- [[sroracle]] [n=sroracle@unaffiliated/sroracle] has quit ["Night!"] 04:58 < uberfuzzy> is anyone aware of an extension/parserfunction to do something like php's number_format? 05:00 < bawolff> I'm not familiar with php's number format, but perhaps {{formatnum:}} 05:00 -!- bawolff [n=chatzill@wikinews/bawolff] has quit ["Zzzzzzzzzz"] 05:01 < uberfuzzy> bingo! 05:01 < uberfuzzy> i figured there was something built in 05:02 -!- kajework [n=kaje@ip-71.technology-specialists.com] has left #mediawiki [] 05:02 -!- cattelan [n=cattelan@c-24-118-127-188.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:12 -!- MartialArtsDrago [n=Daedalus@cpe-76-175-1-252.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #mediawiki 05:13 -!- ITrace [n=justinst@75-167-123-91.desm.qwest.net] has quit [] 05:19 -!- MartialArtsDrago [n=Daedalus@cpe-76-175-1-252.socal.res.rr.com] has quit ["There is no escaping reason, no denying purpose, because as we both know, without purpose, we would not exist. 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It is purpose ] 05:22 * charitwo raises an eyebrow 05:23 < CIA-66> sergeychernyshev * r59375 /trunk/extensions/OpenID/SpecialOpenID.body.php: Applied patch for bug 21606. 05:23 -!- DuTempete [n=chatzill@76-234-42-15.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #mediawiki 05:24 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Call to undefined function xriToUrl() in SpecialOpenID.body.php on line 72 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21606 +comment (sergey.chernyshev) 05:25 < DuTempete> I need to check if the current page is the recent changes page... which method should I be using? 05:32 < Amgine> What? 05:33 -!- aude [n=chatzill@wikipedia/Aude] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 05:35 < DuTempete> which part do you have a question about? 05:37 -!- akozak [n=alex@adsl-71-134-253-152.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has quit ["ABORTING"] 05:39 -!- Mike_lifeguard is now known as Mike||gone 05:42 -!- infinisoft [i=infiniso@r70h97.res.gatech.edu] has quit [] 05:50 -!- JC [n=JC@wikimedia/Juliancolton] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 05:55 < wikibugs> (NEW) Users can't send gifts - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21623 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: SocialProfile; (mariocesar.c50) 05:59 -!- Prodego_ [n=Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego] has joined #mediawiki 06:00 < Amgine> DuTempete: The recent changes page is a special: page. Its url should be domain/Special:Recentchanges 06:01 -!- Prodego [n=Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 06:01 < Amgine> Unfortunately, I have to leave so I won't be able to help further. 06:02 < DuTempete> Amgine: I'm referring to server side coding, as in an extension or in rewriting SkinTemplate.php 06:02 -!- Emufarmers [i=Emufarme@mediawiki/Emufarmers] has left #mediawiki [] 06:02 < DuTempete> I'm actually doing the latter 06:03 < DuTempete> adding the recent changes page to the nav_urls array, in the hopes of moving the link from the navigation section of the sidebar, into the toolbox 06:04 < TimStarling> use $wgTitle->isSpecial( 'Recentchanges' ) 06:04 < DuTempete> ah, thank you... exactly what I was looking for 06:05 < DuTempete> and as such, I was using the right method, but the wrong syntax :P 06:08 < DuTempete> TimStarling: I'm getting this error: Call to a member function isSpecial() on a non-object in /home/jessewal/public_html/w/includes/SkinTemplate.php on line 959 06:08 < TimStarling> you need global $wgTitle obviously 06:08 < TimStarling> it's not a superglobal is it? 06:09 < DuTempete> oh, yes, I've probably not called it 06:09 -!- Prodego_ is now known as administrivia 06:09 < DuTempete> excellent, that was it 06:09 < DuTempete> thanks again 06:22 -!- administrivia [n=Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego] has quit ["From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"] 06:46 < wikibugs> (mod) Account cannot be renamed to a global username - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13507 (N/A) 06:46 -!- Pathoschild [n=Jesse@wikimedia/Pathoschild] has quit ["*poof*"] 06:49 -!- DuTempete [n=chatzill@76-234-42-15.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 06:53 -!- YurtleTheTurtle [n=PsiPro@98.230.11.42] has joined #mediawiki 07:01 -!- Olipro [n=Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.active.olipro] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 07:02 -!- Olipro [n=Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.active.olipro] has joined #mediawiki 07:08 -!- Olipro [n=Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.active.olipro] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:09 -!- Olipro [n=Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.active.olipro] has joined #mediawiki 07:13 -!- andi_ [n=andi@pD9FF5DBF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 07:26 -!- Suiseiseki [i=desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has quit ["..."] 07:31 -!- YurtleTheTurtle [n=PsiPro@98.230.11.42] has quit ["Leaving"] 07:46 -!- fotoflo [n=chatzill@123.125.40.250] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 07:52 -!- AryehGregor_ [n=Simetric@cpe-66-108-166-63.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #mediawiki 07:54 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59376 /trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/FreeCol/FreeCol.yml: Update ignored 07:58 -!- AryehGregor [n=Simetric@mediawiki/simetrical] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:59 -!- siebrand [n=beis@82.95.171.213] has quit [] 08:00 -!- AndreU [n=AndreU@78.53.147.75] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:00 -!- AndreU_ [n=AndreU@f053147075.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #mediawiki 08:00 -!- AndreU_ is now known as AndreU 08:02 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:02 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has joined #mediawiki 08:02 -!- Bamie_ [i=Melvin@53566C45.cable.casema.nl] has joined #mediawiki 08:03 -!- Bamieater [i=Melvin@freenode/sponsor/bamieater] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:10 -!- Bamieater [i=Melvin@freenode/sponsor/bamieater] has joined #mediawiki 08:10 -!- Bamie_ [i=Melvin@53566C45.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:34 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@dhcp-077-250-053-164.chello.nl] has joined #mediawiki 08:49 -!- uberfuzzy [n=ubrfzy@wikia/Uberfuzzy] has quit ["quitters never prosper, but they do leave irc"] 08:54 -!- Duesentrieb [n=daniel@pD9EAB7D6.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mediawiki 09:10 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@dhcp-077-250-053-164.chello.nl] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:13 -!- Raymond_ [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:25 -!- Church_of_emacs [n=CoE@wikipedia/Church-of-emacs] has joined #mediawiki 09:27 -!- p858snake [n=p858snak@unaffiliated/p858snake] has joined #mediawiki 09:30 -!- Witzman [n=witzman@outgoing.e-tecture.com] has joined #mediawiki 09:41 -!- foksieyl [n=Miranda@93-141-110-174.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:43 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 09:43 -!- puzzlet [n=puzzlet@147.46.241.168] has joined #mediawiki 09:52 -!- Shown [n=Miranda@host126-91-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #mediawiki 10:01 -!- Church_of_emacs [n=CoE@wikipedia/Church-of-emacs] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:04 -!- fishsponge [n=fishspon@212.44.16.158] has quit ["Leaving"] 10:04 -!- fishsponge [n=fishspon@212.44.16.158] has joined #mediawiki 10:21 -!- GreenReaper is now known as GreenSleeper 10:22 -!- liot [n=liot@AVelizy-153-1-25-17.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #mediawiki 10:22 -!- liot [n=liot@AVelizy-153-1-25-17.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #mediawiki ["Konversation terminated!"] 10:27 -!- dungodung is now known as dungodung|away 10:39 -!- tomaszf [n=tomaszf@HSI-KBW-095-208-100-116.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has quit [] 10:42 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@argon.loria.fr] has joined #mediawiki 10:47 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@77.250.53.164] has joined #mediawiki 10:52 -!- ireas [n=ireas@88.67.230.112] has joined #mediawiki 10:54 -!- SB_Johnny [n=SB_Johnn@98.235.177.2] has joined #mediawiki 10:55 -!- Church_of_emacs [n=CoE@wikipedia/Church-of-emacs] has joined #mediawiki 10:55 -!- tbf [n=mathias@86.56.57.78] has joined #mediawiki 10:56 < tbf> hi. can mediawiki calculate the sum of table entries for me? similar to a spreadsheet? 11:09 -!- yannf [n=yannf@wikipedia/yannf] has joined #mediawiki 11:11 < Alphos> i'm afraid not, tbf 11:12 < tbf> Alphos: maybe if i'd embed some javascript? can i embed custom javascript into media wiki pages? 11:12 < Alphos> sure 11:13 < Alphos> you'll have to edit [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] 11:13 < Alphos> (if you want it to apply to all skins, which i assume you do) 11:16 < tbf> Alphos: ah thank you. 11:18 -!- SB_Johnny [n=SB_Johnn@98.235.177.2] has quit [] 11:18 < tbf> Alphos: ok. have to wait for my wiki admin now to give me edit permission :-) 11:20 < TimStarling> no 11:22 -!- rainman-sr [n=rainman@flywall.sysbiol.cam.ac.uk] has joined #mediawiki 11:28 < CIA-66> nikerabbit * r59377 /trunk/extensions/Translate/ffs/Gettext.php: Fix regexp to actually match inactive sections 11:30 -!- NicDumZ [n=nicdumz@wikimedia/NicDumZ] has joined #mediawiki 11:34 -!- cps0 [n=cps0@143.107.109.46] has joined #mediawiki 11:39 -!- AndreU_ [n=AndreU@78.53.147.21] has joined #mediawiki 11:40 -!- AndreU_ [n=AndreU@78.53.147.21] has left #mediawiki [] 11:41 -!- AndreU [n=AndreU@f053147075.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:41 -!- iceroot [n=irssi@static.4.202.46.78.clients.your-server.de] has joined #mediawiki 11:42 -!- SB_Johnny [n=SB_Johnn@98.235.177.2] has joined #mediawiki 11:42 < iceroot> is it possible to use the date a site was modified in an article? (last modified at 2009-11-11) 11:47 < wikibugs> (mod) Version of wikimedia ch is outdated - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21620 +comment (danny.leinad) 11:48 < iceroot> found it 11:50 < wikibugs> (DUP) Update wikitech interwiki map to match other wmf projects - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21618 +comment (danny.leinad) 11:50 -!- Paulrayner [n=Paul@115.64.51.166] has joined #mediawiki 11:50 < wikibugs> (mod) WMF interwiki map needs to be updated - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21561 +comment (danny.leinad) 11:51 < Paulrayner> Hello everyone 11:51 -!- MrZ-man [i=alexz@mediawiki/MrZ-man] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:51 < Paulrayner> Hello? 11:52 -!- Paulrayner [n=Paul@115.64.51.166] has left #mediawiki [] 11:52 < wikibugs> (mod) Add outreach to interwiki table - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21349 (danny.leinad) 11:52 < wikibugs> (mod) WMF interwiki map needs to be updated - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21561 (danny.leinad) 11:52 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@argon.loria.fr] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:54 -!- SB_Johnny [n=SB_Johnn@98.235.177.2] has quit [] 11:54 -!- Paulrayner [n=Paul@115.64.51.166] has joined #mediawiki 11:54 < Paulrayner> anyone in this room? 11:56 -!- Church_of_emacs [n=CoE@wikipedia/Church-of-emacs] has quit ["Leaving"] 11:56 -!- cps0 [n=cps0@143.107.109.46] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 11:56 < Paulrayner> hello? 11:58 < TimStarling> sorry, nobody here but us chickens 11:58 < Paulrayner> could u help me quickly? 11:59 < TimStarling> depends on the question 11:59 < TimStarling> do feel free to ask it though 12:00 < Paulrayner> wanting to add a group of users so they can all log in with out them having to do it via create account etc but as well have more than one administrator 12:00 -!- Olipro [n=Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.active.olipro] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:00 < Paulrayner> aswell is their a PHP file that lists all users and rights etc 12:01 < TimStarling> have you checked the manual? 12:02 < Paulrayner> i have looked for ages but it means nothing to me atm 12:03 < TimStarling> while logged in as yourself, go to Special:Userlogin 12:03 < TimStarling> generally you do this by typing the URL manually 12:03 < TimStarling> then click create account 12:04 < Paulrayner> i have done that 12:04 < TimStarling> then type in the name and email address and a random password, and click "by email" 12:04 < Paulrayner> but how can i make a 2nd administrtor? 12:04 < TimStarling> this sends an email to that person telling them that an account has been created for them 12:04 < TimStarling> go to Special:UserRights 12:05 < TimStarling> enter the user's name, click the button, click "administrator", click the other button 12:05 < TimStarling> you do this after you've created their account 12:06 -!- Hosiryuhosi [n=Hosiryuh@wikipedia/Hosiryuhosi] has joined #MediaWiki 12:06 -!- Hosiryuhosi_afk [n=Hosiryuh@wikipedia/Hosiryuhosi] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:06 < Paulrayner> great that works 12:07 < Paulrayner> now sorry but how to set up Email settings? 12:07 < TimStarling> what do you mean? 12:08 < Paulrayner> for the wiki to send emails to users does it need smtp settings? 12:10 < TimStarling> what OS? 12:10 < Paulrayner> Windows 2003 12:10 < TimStarling> seriously? 12:10 < Alphos> :D 12:10 * Alphos huggles TimStarling 12:11 < Paulrayner> yeah 12:11 < Paulrayner> why not 12:11 < Paulrayner> lol 12:11 < TimStarling> try setting SMTP as described here: http://au2.php.net/manual/en/mail.configuration.php 12:11 < TimStarling> I believe that works for some people 12:12 < Paulrayner> emails arnt stored on the 2003 server its stored with ISP Provider 12:12 < TimStarling> looks like you also have to set sendmail_path to an empty string 12:13 < TimStarling> it doesn't matter where they're stored, what matters is where you send them to 12:13 < TimStarling> you know the difference between SMTP and POP right? 12:13 < Paulrayner> yeah 12:14 < TimStarling> if you set it in php.ini, don't forget to restart the webserver 12:15 < TimStarling> windows isn't the best thing to run PHP on 12:15 < wikibugs> (INVALID) Version of wikimedia ch is outdated - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21620 (sam) 12:15 < TimStarling> the PHP devs all really hate it, they close any windows bugs as bogus or just ignore them 12:16 < Paulrayner> yeah but the boss hates it they like to spend the $$$ 12:16 < TimStarling> it's quite a bit simpler to run it on linux 12:16 < Paulrayner> yeah i tryied to change the whole lot there to linux but they didnt like the idea at all 12:20 -!- wolog_ [n=wolog@AOrleans-152-1-29-253.w90-21.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:20 -!- Netsplit calkins.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: TheWoozle, Bamieater, wimt, Alphos, sj| 12:20 -!- Netsplit calkins.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: avar, CIA-66, michi_cc, str4nd, Cain, Dratini, KaareAway, Guest61626, yang 12:20 -!- ircman [n=ircman@office.datadigest.nl] has joined #mediawiki 12:20 -!- wolog_ [n=wolog@AOrleans-152-1-29-167.w90-21.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #mediawiki 12:21 -!- Netsplit over, joins: wimt, Alphos, sj|, TheWoozle, Bamieater 12:24 -!- Cain [n=Geek@unaffiliated/cain] has joined #mediawiki 12:24 -!- Dratini [n=VFx@wikia/VicFedex] has joined #mediawiki 12:24 -!- Guest61626 [n=Cobi@Cobi.cluenet.org] has joined #mediawiki 12:24 -!- KaareAway [i=Kaare@wikipedia/pdpc.professional.kaare] has joined #mediawiki 12:24 -!- str4nd [i=str4nd@wikimedia/str4nd] has joined #mediawiki 12:24 -!- CIA-66 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #mediawiki 12:24 -!- yang [n=yang@freenode/sponsor/cacert.assurer.yang] has joined #mediawiki 12:24 -!- michi_cc [i=michi@pdpc/supporter/student/michi-cc] has joined #mediawiki 12:24 -!- avar [n=avar@wikipedia/avar] has joined #mediawiki 12:26 -!- Cain [n=Geek@unaffiliated/cain] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 12:27 -!- Cain [n=Geek@unaffiliated/cain] has joined #MediaWiki 12:27 -!- iceroot [n=irssi@static.4.202.46.78.clients.your-server.de] has left #mediawiki [] 12:30 -!- ireas [n=ireas@wikipedia/Ireas] has quit ["bye"] 12:30 -!- zocky [n=zocky@wikipedia/zocky] has joined #mediawiki 12:31 -!- zocky [n=zocky@wikipedia/zocky] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:31 -!- zocky [n=zocky@wikipedia/zocky] has joined #mediawiki 12:32 -!- Reedy [n=Reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has joined #mediawiki 12:32 < CIA-66> werdna * r59378 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/Threads.php: LiquidThreads: Remove username from reply title. Resolves bug 21612 12:32 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Remove username from LQT titles - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21612 (agarrett) 12:33 < Paulrayner> Hey People im stuck again 12:33 < Paulrayner> cant get this email thing 12:34 -!- G_SabinoMullane [n=greg@pool-71-162-163-230.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #mediawiki 12:34 < Paulrayner> do u set this up within Mediawiki or php server 12:35 -!- GDonato [n=GDonato@wikimedia/GDonato] has quit [Connection timed out] 12:35 -!- ircmanz [n=ircman@office.datadigest.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:36 < Reedy> !email 12:36 < mwbot> For more information about MediaWiki e-mail extensions, see . 12:36 < Reedy> maybe not 12:36 < Reedy> !wg SMTP 12:36 < mwbot> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgSMTP 12:36 -!- Church_of_emacs [n=CoE@wikipedia/Church-of-emacs] has joined #mediawiki 12:38 < Paulrayner> $wgSMTP is entered into Localsettings.php? 12:38 < Reedy> yup 12:40 < Paulrayner> thanks 12:41 < Paulrayner> entering $wgSMTP into local do i have to do anything else? 12:41 < Reedy> arning: This setting requires PEAR's Mail package to be installed (run "pear install MAIL" and "pear install Net_SMTP"). 12:47 -!- stephan48 [n=rjp@p5DD5300C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mediawiki 12:55 < Paulrayner> setting IDhost?? 12:58 < Reedy> 'IDHost' => 'mydomain.com' 12:58 < Paulrayner> domain of where the SMTP server is? 12:59 < Reedy> no, thats host 12:59 < Reedy> cause the host may not be on your server 12:59 < Reedy> I'd use the root domain of your website, as i presume its your own domain? 12:59 < Paulrayner> yes 12:59 < TimStarling> I think he's behind the firewall 12:59 < TimStarling> not that it makes a difference 13:00 < Reedy> TimStarling: thanks for the commit access btw 13:00 < Reedy> "the" Firewall? 13:00 < TimStarling> that's what we call wikis that are installed behind corporate firewalls 13:01 < Reedy> ahh 13:01 < Reedy> so generally internal ones etc? 13:01 < Paulrayner> server has no firewall but shhhhhhh 13:01 < Paulrayner> Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_CONSTANT_ENCAPSED_STRING, expecting ')' in C:\xampp\htdocs\wiki\LocalSettings.php on line 129 13:02 -!- madsj [n=gbarmj@sunq01.gbar.dtu.dk] has joined #mediawiki 13:02 < Paulrayner> when idhost is domainname 13:02 < Duesentrieb> hm... anyone know a way to easily flip lines in a text file? i.e. turn asdf unto fdsa, etc 13:02 < Reedy> paste the line? 13:02 < Paulrayner> reedy is was that for me ? 13:02 < Reedy> Duesentrieb: tac, apparently 13:03 < Duesentrieb> no, that's bottom to top. i guess rev is it :) 13:03 < Duesentrieb> thanks anyway 13:03 < Reedy> Papiertiger: aye 13:03 < Duesentrieb> "The rev utility copies the specified files to the standard output, reversing the order of characters in every line. " 13:03 < Reedy> it could be hte line before 13:03 < Duesentrieb> goody 13:04 < Papiertiger> Reedy: hey 13:04 < wikibugs> (mod) MultiUpload gives fatal error undefined method UploadForm::uploadform() - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21199 (gisela.wb) 13:04 < Reedy> Papiertiger: sorry, tab fail 13:04 < Reedy> Paulrayner: yes 13:04 -!- madsj [n=gbarmj@sunq01.gbar.dtu.dk] has quit [Client Quit] 13:04 < Paulrayner> Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_CONSTANT_ENCAPSED_STRING, expecting ')' in C:\xampp\htdocs\wiki\LocalSettings.php on line 129 13:05 -!- BradLee [n=chatzill@CPE-121-214-97-81.lnse4.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 13:05 < Papiertiger> Reedy: no problem already thought of that ^^ 13:06 -!- carl-m|away [n=cbm@wikipedia/cbm] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 13:06 * Natalie puts charitwo in a blender. 13:07 < Paulrayner> Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_CONSTANT_ENCAPSED_STRING, expecting ')' in C:\xampp\htdocs\wiki\LocalSettings.php on line 129 (line 29 is IDHOST 13:08 < TimStarling> did Paul just paste that error in three times? 13:08 < TimStarling> or is something wrong with my IRC client? 13:09 < flyingparchment> TimStarling: twice 13:09 < wikibugs> (mod) loading a wikipedia article crashes my browser - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21622 +comment (roan.kattouw) 13:09 < flyingparchment> and once a screen above 13:09 < Reedy> No, that is the 3rd time 13:09 < flyingparchment> twice + once = 3 13:10 < Reedy> true ;) 13:10 < TimStarling> well, that's one way to make sure you either get an answer or get kicked out I guess 13:10 -!- madsj [n=user@192.38.95.24] has joined #mediawiki 13:10 < Paulrayner> one of the 2 13:10 -!- LauraHale [n=laurahal@adsl-99-142-42-96.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #mediawiki 13:10 -!- Reedy [n=Reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has quit ["KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 3472, sources date: 20090703, built on: 2009/09/02 21:14:09 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/"] 13:10 < werdna> Paulrayner: anyway, you obviously have a syntax error on line 129 13:10 < werdna> the parser wanted to see a ), but you gave it a string constant instead 13:10 < TimStarling> looks like it's an answer today 13:11 < Paulrayner> i noticed that but can anyone explain hy? 13:11 < werdna> TimStarling: hardly, I just rephrased the error message 13:12 < werdna> Paulrayner: I don't care what line 29 is, the error message says line 129 13:12 < Paulrayner> i meant 129 got crap keyboard that misses keys 13:13 < werdna> If that's all that's on line 129, then you haven't given me enough context 13:13 -!- Eer0 [n=eero@195.67.213.2] has joined #mediawiki 13:13 < werdna> before asking somebody else to look, just make sure that all of your parens are matched 13:14 < werdna> make sure you haven't left off a ) around line 129 13:14 < Paulrayner> 'IDHost' => "mydomain.com", 13:15 < Eer0> Hello, i dont know if we at my work have missunderstood the function of "toolbox sidebar" but they want it to be static problem is i cant edit it with the link "index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar&action=edit" navigation and all the rest shows up there but not the toolbox, am i missing something? (cant find the appropriate information about it) 13:16 < flyingparchment> Eer0: you can't edit the toolbox. it doesn't have sense to have it static. 13:16 < flyingparchment> Eer0: the contents depend on the type of page you're viewing 13:17 < werdna> Paulrayner: without seeing any more, I'll bet a large amount of money you've missed the comma from the previous line 13:18 < Eer0> flyingparchment: well, theres 2 things id like to remove rss and atom plus i want to rename one thing so i cant 'hack' a specific file for it? 13:19 < Paulrayner> wedna: ok u were correct about the comma now its gone to last line i guess i have to close it 13:19 < Paulrayner> how do u close the last line 13:20 < Natalie> Eer0: Renaming things is easy. Just edit the appropriate MediaWiki message (see Special:AllMessages). 13:20 < Natalie> To hide pieces, just use CSS. 13:20 < werdna> (; 13:20 < werdna> oops 13:20 < werdna> ); 13:20 < Natalie> Heh. 13:20 < Paulrayner> thanks i just relised that 13:20 < Eer0> Natalie & flyingparchment thank you 13:20 < werdna> where's my money? 13:21 * Natalie writes a cheque. 13:21 < werdna> :) 13:21 < Paulrayner> werdna i gotta say thanks alot 13:24 -!- GDonato [n=GDonato@wikimedia/GDonato] has joined #mediawiki 13:25 < wikibugs> (mod) some text of old revisions in early 2005 is blank in the English Wikipedia - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20757 (grahamwp) 13:25 -!- SB_Johnny [n=SB_Johnn@98.235.177.2] has joined #mediawiki 13:26 < Natalie> I'm surprised more people haven't freaked out about that. 13:26 < Natalie> (The old text going missing.) 13:27 -!- ZioCorto [i=c1cedc02@gateway/web/freenode/x-erofnzwpwrisqbqh] has joined #mediawiki 13:32 < Paulrayner> last question for tonight before i hit the sack easiest way to delete users 13:33 < Duesentrieb> Paulrayner: none. user record are needed in the database to preserve log/revision integrity. 13:33 -!- ngong [i=c05d9e1a@gateway/web/freenode/x-ggycjzhksaahrjvr] has quit ["Page closed"] 13:33 < Duesentrieb> Paulrayner: you can block and rename 13:33 -!- SB_Johnny [n=SB_Johnn@98.235.177.2] has quit [] 13:33 < TimStarling> there's not really a good answer 13:33 < TimStarling> it's a missing feature 13:34 < Paulrayner> ok so renaming user?? 13:34 < TimStarling> we need it on wikimedia, we just have to scramble peoples' passwords 13:34 < TimStarling> there's an extension, which works by scrambling passwords 13:34 < Duesentrieb> TimStarling: might be nice to be able to be ablt to a) block people from logging in and at the same time b) hide them from the user list. 13:34 < TimStarling> what a hack 13:34 < Duesentrieb> !renameuser | Paulrayner 13:34 < mwbot> Paulrayner: Renameuser provides a special page which allows authorised users to rename user accounts. See < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Renameuser > for more details. 13:35 < Duesentrieb> TimStarling: i wrote an extension that will prevent blocked users from logging in. useful for private wikis. 13:35 < Duesentrieb> TimStarling: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockout we use it for wmde's internal wiki. check it out 13:35 < TimStarling> I think that would cover most of the use cases 13:36 -!- ireas [n=ireas@wikipedia/Ireas] has joined #mediawiki 13:37 < TimStarling> it's like 10 lines 13:37 < TimStarling> can it just be merged in? 13:37 < TimStarling> then you can have your better error message 13:38 < Duesentrieb> sure it could.... but it shouldn't be active for public wikis. 13:38 < Duesentrieb> how would this behavior be triggerd? 13:38 < Duesentrieb> extra option? 13:39 < TimStarling> yes, LocalSettings.php 13:39 -!- tforsman [n=tforsman@foresight/developer/tforsman] has joined #Mediawiki 13:39 < Duesentrieb> $wgPreventBlockedUsersFromLoggingIn? 13:40 -!- Church_of_emacs [n=CoE@wikipedia/Church-of-emacs] has quit ["Leaving"] 13:40 < Duesentrieb> Also... perhaps, some day, we get permission based user blocks. 13:40 < Duesentrieb> how woul"od that integrate? 13:42 < tforsman> Anyone knows why navigation on left side on my mediawiki gets pushed down below the "mainpage" on right side? 13:43 < TimStarling> could be $wgLockOutBlockedUsers 13:43 < TimStarling> it could be a block option 13:43 < TimStarling> but that's more complicated to implement obviously 13:43 < tforsman> only happens with using chromium browser, but it seems its only my page that act like that, the "real" media wiki works as it should 13:44 -!- Bamie_ [i=Melvin@53566C45.cable.casema.nl] has joined #mediawiki 13:44 -!- Bamieater [i=Melvin@freenode/sponsor/bamieater] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:45 < werdna> 12:40 < Duesentrieb> Also... perhaps, some day, we get permission based user blocks. 13:45 < werdna> that would be nice 13:46 < Paulrayner> Night peoples i guess ill speak to you later on 13:47 < CIA-66> werdna * r59379 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (7 files in 4 dirs): 13:47 < CIA-66> LiquidThreads: Make bumping a thread optional. Resolves bug 21055. 13:47 < CIA-66> * Also includes a fix for bug 21452, which I came across while refactoring some code. 13:48 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Information missing in thread history - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21452 +comment (agarrett) 13:48 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Should be an option for whether or not to bump a topic when editing/replying to a thread - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21055 +comment (agarrett) 13:48 -!- Paulrayner [n=Paul@115.64.51.166] has left #mediawiki [] 13:51 < werdna> TimStarling: there's an infinite-running post-commit hook 13:52 < TimStarling> it says defunct 13:52 < CIA-66> werdna * r59380 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/lqt.js: LiquidThreads: Fix bug where removal of wpSummary field caused all thread edit summaries to be "undefined" 13:52 < TimStarling> long-running rather than infinite-running perhaps 13:53 < flyingparchment> if it's defunct it's not running anymore 13:58 < TimStarling> there were a few wgets running, didn't get to the bottom of it before they quit 13:58 < TimStarling> not sure why they would take a long time 13:58 -!- FireStone_ [i=Shady@you.are.ownd-by.us] has joined #mediawiki 14:00 -!- Fickenrose [n=chatzill@118.175.107.184] has joined #mediawiki 14:01 -!- Olipro [n=Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.active.olipro] has joined #mediawiki 14:08 < TimStarling> eval( _this.instance_name + ' = _this' ); 14:08 < TimStarling> setTimeout( _this.instance_name + '.waitForResults()', 50 ); 14:08 < TimStarling> any JS fans around? 14:08 < TimStarling> I seem to remember there was some horrible pitfall with setTimeout but I don't remember it being so horrible that you'd need to do the above 14:09 < TimStarling> can't I just do: setTimeout( function() { _this.waitForResults(); }, 50 ); 14:10 -!- FireStone [i=Shady@208.98.60.22] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:10 < Duesentrieb> not an expert, but i think the main pitfall is that it's a job queue handled by a single thread - so while one hanlder is going, the next one will not be executed. you can't have watchdogs. but i might be wrong :) 14:12 < TimStarling> I don't think that's relevant here 14:12 < TimStarling> I'm changing it 14:15 < TimStarling> mind you, eval() doesn't have the same security implications in JS as it does in PHP 14:16 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@152.81.13.143] has joined #mediawiki 14:17 < TimStarling> metavid/js2 constantly generates HTML and doesn't have a single escaping function 14:17 < TimStarling> so it's not like you'd have to look for eval()s if you wanted to run scripts 14:17 -!- Suiseiseki [n=desudesu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has joined #mediawiki 14:18 -!- Reedy [n=reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has joined #mediawiki 14:20 -!- SB_Johnny [n=SB_Johnn@98.235.177.2] has joined #mediawiki 14:20 -!- Church_of_emacs [n=CoE@wikipedia/Church-of-emacs] has joined #mediawiki 14:21 < wikibugs> (mod) Base Wikipedia link fix for be-x-old usage statistics - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21043 (jz53) 14:25 -!- kevindanko [n=Kevindan@205.232.42.46] has joined #mediawiki 14:27 -!- SB_Johnny [n=SB_Johnn@98.235.177.2] has quit [] 14:43 < wikibugs> (mod) safe referencing the newest version of page using one of its history id - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21572 (gangleri) 14:43 -!- andi_ [n=andi@pD9FF5DBF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mediawiki 14:43 < wikibugs> (mod) fatal error in MultiUpload in combination with mw 1.16.r57940 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21199 summary; +comment (gisela.wb) 14:52 < CIA-66> daniel * r59381 /trunk/WikiWord/ (8 files in 2 dirs): initStores/targetStores 14:54 -!- Kanor- [n=kanor@dslb-084-058-171-108.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #mediawiki 14:55 < Kanor-> Hi you all guys 14:55 < Kanor-> i've been wondering 14:56 < Kanor-> why there is not a 'foreach' function for the parser 14:56 < Kanor-> does somebody know why? 14:56 < Kanor-> it should be about the most useful function, as there is nothing which can parse a variable number of parameters 14:57 -!- AryehGregor_ is now known as AryehGregor 14:57 < Kanor-> or maybe there is something i've been missing... 14:57 -!- AryehGregor [n=Simetric@cpe-66-108-166-63.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:01 -!- AryehGregor [n=Simetric@mediawiki/simetrical] has joined #mediawiki 15:04 -!- Church_of_emacs [n=CoE@wikipedia/Church-of-emacs] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:06 < wikibugs> (mod) Add pages of a Namespace to NUMPEROFARTICLES - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20623 (mohamedstarwars) 15:08 < CIA-66> daniel * r59382 /trunk/WikiWord/ (13 files in 6 dirs): no more WikiWordStoreFactory, instantiate stores directly 15:08 -!- TimStarling is now known as Tim-away 15:08 < Duesentrieb> Kanor-: because this would make templates too powerful. if would basically turn the markup into a programming language. 15:09 < Duesentrieb> Kanor-: foreach already has bad implications for performance/scalabili6ty. a general for or while loop would make wikisyntax touring complete 15:09 < Kanor-> yeah 15:09 < Duesentrieb> *Turing 15:09 < Duesentrieb> >_< 15:09 < Kanor-> is that bad? 15:09 < Kanor-> :D 15:09 < Kanor-> yeah, i understand what you mean 15:10 < Kanor-> it is just generative grammars are not enough for me ;) 15:10 < Duesentrieb> yes it's bad, there'S no way to determin if executing it will ever terminate :) 15:10 < Duesentrieb> well, generative grammars allow full recursion, which makes them turing complete :) 15:11 < Duesentrieb> templates don't, though. for precisely this reason 15:11 < Duesentrieb> take it up with Tim-away for foreach :P 15:12 < Duesentrieb> Kanor-: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lua 15:12 < Kanor-> true, i hadn't thought of recursion, which as you very well point does not work ^^ 15:12 < Duesentrieb> Kanor-: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Loops 15:13 < Duesentrieb> Kanor-: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LoopFunctions 15:13 < Duesentrieb> Kanor-: there's probable more, you are not the first one to want this :P 15:13 < Kanor-> there are things i have been missing, indeed :) 15:13 -!- Reedy [n=reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has quit ["Leaving"] 15:14 < Duesentrieb> Lua is probably the bgest solution 15:14 -!- Anubisss [i=Anubisss@77.111.172.52] has joined #mediawiki 15:15 -!- madsj [n=user@192.38.95.24] has quit ["ERC Version 5.2 (IRC client for Emacs)"] 15:15 < Kanor-> oh, great 15:15 < Kanor-> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ForeachFunction 15:16 < Duesentrieb> "global object name"? 15:16 < Duesentrieb> that doesn't sound too good. 15:17 < Kanor-> no 15:17 < Kanor-> i don't even understand what it is 15:17 < Kanor-> xD 15:18 < Duesentrieb> seems like it loops over a php array. which would be defined in the cofig file. 15:18 < Duesentrieb> seems pretty useless 15:18 < Duesentrieb> you"Ad want forargs or something 15:18 < Kanor-> #forargs (Experimental) 15:18 < Kanor-> {{#forargs}} is to be used in templates. It takes arguments that are passed to the template and puts them in variables accessible by VariablesExtension's {{#var:}} parser function. 15:18 < Duesentrieb> or foreach with a string, split at some separator char 15:18 < Kanor-> yeah 15:19 < Kanor-> no, no 15:19 < Kanor-> i found weird there was no such thing as forargs 15:19 < Kanor-> because the templates i have seen in wikipdeida 15:19 < Kanor-> use a fixed number of args 15:20 < Kanor-> which is, in my opinion, worse than having a for loop 15:20 < Kanor-> in terms of style, not performance of course 15:21 -!- andi_ [n=andi@pD9FF5DBF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:21 -!- Witzman [n=witzman@outgoing.e-tecture.com] has quit [Operation timed out] 15:25 -!- flubub1114 [n=Flubub@92.75.210.174] has joined #mediawiki 15:26 < wikibugs> (mod) WMF interwiki map needs to be updated - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21561 (marcin.cieslak) 15:26 < wikibugs> (mod) Update wikitech interwiki map to match other wmf projects - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21618 (marcin.cieslak) 15:32 < Kanor-> well, thanks Duesentrieb 15:32 < Kanor-> or D"usentrieb 15:32 < Kanor-> :P 15:33 < Kanor-> it had never occurred to me that there was gonna be a thing such as loops, as they still use normal args in wikipedia 15:33 < Kanor-> :) 15:36 -!- BR4511 [n=brice@AToulouse-256-1-16-180.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 15:37 -!- jtrucks [i=jtrucks@freenode/staff/lopsa.board.jtrucks] has joined #mediawiki 15:39 -!- ireas [n=ireas@wikipedia/Ireas] has quit ["bye"] 15:44 -!- KaareAway is now known as Kaare 15:45 -!- Mike||gone is now known as Mike_lifeguard 15:49 -!- AlexSm [n=Miranda@wikipedia/Alex-Smotrov] has quit [] 15:49 -!- AlexSm [n=Miranda@wikipedia/Alex-Smotrov] has joined #mediawiki 15:50 -!- Fickenrose [n=chatzill@118.175.107.184] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091104203742]"] 15:53 < Kanor-> Duesentrieb: you there? 15:54 -!- LauraHale is now known as Laura|Away 15:55 -!- MostafaDaneshvar [n=MostafaD@fedora/MostafaDaneshvar] has joined #mediawiki 16:02 -!- MostafaDaneshvar [n=MostafaD@fedora/MostafaDaneshvar] has quit ["g"] 16:04 -!- PDD [i=PDD@wikipedia/PDD] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:06 -!- Hosiryuhosi [n=Hosiryuh@wikipedia/Hosiryuhosi] has quit ["Leaving..."] 16:07 < wikibugs> (REOPENED) Please install Extension:DynamicPageList - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20283 (pbeaudette) 16:07 < wikibugs> (REOPENED) Please add Extension:Collection to strategic planning wiki - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21361 +comment (pbeaudette) 16:09 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Please add Extension:Collection to strategic planning wiki - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21361 +comment (mike.lifeguard) 16:10 < wikibugs> (mod) Please install Extension:DynamicPageList on strategywiki - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20283 +shell; summary (mike.lifeguard) 16:10 < wikibugs> (mod) Please install Extension:DynamicPageList on strategywiki - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20283 (mike.lifeguard) 16:11 -!- Hosiryuhosi [n=Hosiryuh@wikipedia/Hosiryuhosi] has joined #MediaWiki 16:13 < wikibugs> (mod) Please install Extension:DynamicPageList on strategywiki - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20283 (pbeaudette) 16:13 < thedj> how do translations work in mediawiki. how do i add a new string ? 16:13 -!- Dantman [n=dantman@wikia/dantman] has quit ["http://daniel.friesen.name or ELSE!"] 16:14 -!- Reedy [n=Reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has joined #mediawiki 16:15 < Amgine> thedj: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Translations 16:15 < thedj> Amgine: thx 16:15 < Amgine> np 16:15 -!- Marco27 [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has joined #mediawiki 16:20 -!- RoanKattouw [n=RoanKatt@83.119.125.27] has joined #mediawiki 16:26 -!- dungodung|away is now known as dungodung 16:27 -!- mdale [n=dale@pdpc/supporter/student/mdale] has joined #mediawiki 16:27 -!- Prodego [n=Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego] has joined #mediawiki 16:30 -!- ireas [n=ireas@wikipedia/Ireas] has joined #mediawiki 16:32 -!- GreenSleeper is now known as GreenAway 16:34 -!- freakolowsky [n=freakolo@84-255-254-147.static.t-2.net] has joined #mediawiki 16:34 -!- wolog_ [n=wolog@AOrleans-152-1-29-167.w90-21.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:34 < freakolowsky> lo ladies 16:35 -!- wolog_ [n=wolog@AOrleans-152-1-32-219.w90-21.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #mediawiki 16:36 -!- Marco27 [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 16:36 -!- Marco27_ [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has joined #mediawiki 16:36 -!- Marco27_ is now known as Marco27 16:38 -!- andi_ [n=andi@pD9FF5DBF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mediawiki 16:42 -!- SPQRobin [n=Robin@wikimedia/SPQRobin] has joined #mediawiki 16:42 < freakolowsky> ok i know this is not MW related question, but has anyone here had any luck configuring sendmail's virtusertable with wildcards on local part? 16:50 -!- PDD [i=PDD@wikipedia/PDD] has joined #mediawiki 16:56 -!- ZioCorto [i=c1cedc02@gateway/web/freenode/x-erofnzwpwrisqbqh] has quit ["Page closed"] 17:02 -!- tbf is now known as real_world 17:03 -!- real_world is now known as tbf 17:03 -!- Diamant005 [n=user6398@p579CAC47.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mediawiki 17:04 -!- zocky [n=zocky@wikipedia/zocky] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:07 < saper> freakolowsky: no special wildcars except after +, see cf/README 17:08 -!- brion [n=brion@wikipedia/Brion-VIBBER] has joined #mediawiki 17:10 -!- MaxSem [n=max@wikimedia/MaxSem] has joined #mediawiki 17:10 < freakolowsky> oh yes ... it's like ... i've gone below my dignity and asked a question on a non-topic-related irc channel BEFORE reading the manual, the book (2 revisions) AND asked on a topic-related irc channel ... rtfm-junkies 17:10 < MaxSem> freakolowsky, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk#How_to_install_MediaWiki_for_the_Oracle_database 17:11 -!- p858snake_ [n=p858snak@unaffiliated/p858snake] has joined #mediawiki 17:12 -!- SPQRobin1 [n=Robin@d54C5A3F9.access.telenet.be] has joined #mediawiki 17:12 < freakolowsky> MaxSem: 10x 17:14 < freakolowsky> MaxSem: how do i reply to that ... just edit the section? 17:14 < MaxSem> yeah 17:15 * charitwo disembowels Natalie 17:17 -!- Hendo001|away is now known as Hendo001 17:18 -!- p858snake [n=p858snak@unaffiliated/p858snake] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:18 -!- Olipro [n=Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.active.olipro] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 17:18 < Natalie> Heyyy. 17:18 -!- Olipro [n=Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.active.olipro] has joined #mediawiki 17:19 -!- SPQRobin [n=Robin@wikimedia/SPQRobin] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 17:23 < wikibugs> (NEW) Saving a page with an URL in the text doesn't work - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21624 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (d.biesma) 17:23 -!- AlexSm [n=Miranda@wikipedia/Alex-Smotrov] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 17:26 -!- AlexSm [n=Miranda@wikipedia/Alex-Smotrov] has joined #mediawiki 17:26 -!- NicDumZ [n=nicdumz@wikimedia/NicDumZ] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:27 -!- ialex [n=IAlex@mediawiki/ialex] has joined #mediawiki 17:30 < wikibugs> (mod) Saving a page with an URL in the text doesn't work - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21624 +comment (roan.kattouw) 17:31 < wikibugs> (mod) special:ExpandTemplates does not close tags properly - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21621 (alex.emsenhuber) 17:32 < wikibugs> (mod) Saving a page with an URL in the text doesn't work - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21624 (maxsem.wiki) 17:33 -!- aZaFred [n=aZaFred@wikimedia/Azafred] has joined #mediawiki 17:33 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has joined #mediawiki 17:34 * freakolowsky just realized he spends about 900EUR/year for pizza delivery :S 17:34 < Kanor-> sure it's worth it 17:35 < Kanor-> :D 17:35 < freakolowsky> well it's food ... it's delivered ... quite nutritious ... works for me 17:36 < wikibugs> (mod) Saving a page with an URL in the text doesn't work - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21624 (d.biesma) 17:42 -!- Raymond_afk [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has joined #mediawiki 17:43 -!- mattis^ [n=mattis@79.51.249.150] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 17:44 -!- Sundance_Raphael [n=chatzill@pD9E9618D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mediawiki 17:44 < Kanor-> RoanKattouw: you there? 17:44 < RoanKattouw> Yeah 17:44 < Kanor-> http://dpaste.org/gcf0/ 17:44 < wikibugs> (NEW) New Section Link - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21625 normal; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (dasch_87) 17:44 < Kanor-> there's what I meant last day 17:45 < Kanor-> and you told me about the {{!}} workaround 17:45 < Kanor-> but is there some reason why that doesn't work? 17:45 < Kanor-> or shouldn't work? 17:46 < RoanKattouw> Kanor-: You're not using {{!}} there 17:46 < Kanor-> yeah, i know 17:46 < RoanKattouw> All the pipes used to generate table syntax should be replaced by {{!}} 17:46 -!- Raymond_afk [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:46 < RoanKattouw> And [[Template:!]] should be present on your wiki and contain | 17:46 < RoanKattouw> (this is the case on all WMF wikis) 17:46 -!- AeRoX- [i=Aerox@c80-217-106-98.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #mediawiki 17:46 < Kanor-> sure, sure, i've done that 17:47 < Kanor-> but i'm just wondering why should that work 17:47 < AeRoX-> Hello, how do you get that infobox like wikipedia ? 17:47 < wikibugs> (WFM) New Section Link - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21625 +comment (agarrett) 17:47 < Kanor-> *shouldn't 17:47 < RoanKattouw> Kanor-: Try http://dpaste.org/9j2v/ 17:47 < Kanor-> i mean, if there is a reason for the parser not to recognize a nested structure 17:47 < RoanKattouw> !infobox 17:48 < mwbot> I don't know anything about "infobox". 17:48 < AeRoX-> well, it's a template. 17:48 < RoanKattouw> AeRoX-: Infoboxes are nice-looking tables generated by templates. To copy one to your wiki, you need to copy the templates and possibly some CSS too 17:48 < Kanor-> AeRoX-:just go the infobox template and copy it in your wiki ^^ 17:48 < RoanKattouw> !templates 17:48 < mwbot> For more information about templates, see . See also: !templateproblems 17:49 < AeRoX-> Thanks. 17:49 < RoanKattouw> And take care of dependencies and ParserFunctions, if you need them 17:49 -!- Prodego [n=Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:49 < Kanor-> Roan, i'm using the {{!}} template, i just asked if you knew why does not the parser recognize nested structures :) 17:50 -!- Raymond_afk [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has joined #mediawiki 17:51 < Kanor-> (i mean, the parser looks for the next '|', igonring that a new structure was opened 17:51 < Kanor-> ) 17:51 < RoanKattouw> Kanor-: I guess that's because parser function / template calls are dissected into names and parameters before those are actually expanded 17:51 < RoanKattouw> I'm not sure though, ask Tim, he wrote the new preprocessor 17:51 < RoanKattouw> (and the old one too, I think) 17:51 -!- zocky [n=zocky@wikipedia/zocky] has joined #mediawiki 17:51 < Kanor-> uhm 17:51 < Kanor-> Tim-away: ? 17:51 < wikibugs> (NEW) edit tools break LiquidThreads AJAX forms - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21626 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (agarrett) 17:51 < Kanor-> :D 17:52 < Kanor-> ok, then i'll ask him later 17:52 < RoanKattouw> It's 4 AM in Sydney, you probably won't get that answer for another 6 hours or so 17:52 < Kanor-> yeah, he said 'morning' last night at 2a.m. 17:52 < Kanor-> germany's 2am, anyways 17:53 * RoanKattouw is NL, so same timezone 17:53 -!- AeRoX- [i=Aerox@c80-217-106-98.bredband.comhem.se] has left #mediawiki [] 17:53 -!- mattis^ [n=mattis@host26-245-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #mediawiki 17:53 < Kanor-> :) 17:53 < wikibugs> (mod) New Section Link - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21625 (dasch_87) 17:54 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 17:54 -!- Saruman [n=jan@dworkin.saruman.biz] has joined #mediawiki 17:55 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has joined #mediawiki 17:55 < RoanKattouw> werdna: How does the LQT edit form handle the possible existence of multiple such forms, in the light of ID conflicts etc.? 17:55 < RoanKattouw> werdna: Also, could the described edittools vs. LQT bug be caused by DOM-related assumptions made by the edittools, or by said ID conflicts? 17:56 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has joined #mediawiki 17:56 < wikibugs> (mod) New Section Link - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21625 (agarrett) 17:56 < werdna> RoanKattouw: ID conflicts are handled by not loading more than one form :D 17:56 < RoanKattouw> Fair enough :) 17:59 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has quit [Client Quit] 18:01 -!- RoanKattouw is now known as RoanKattouw_away 18:03 < Kanor-> the wiki markup is a type 2 grammar, isn't it? 18:04 < Reedy> Kanor-: please dont remind me of my lectures earlier today :P 18:04 < Kanor-> (those are just the questions i make to myself in a rainy tuesday afternoon) 18:04 < Kanor-> xD 18:05 < Kanor-> well, it is just i was discussing with Duesentrieb about the turing completeness of the parser 18:06 < wikibugs> (mod) New Section Link - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21625 (dasch_87) 18:07 < Kanor-> Reedy: don't tell me it is not interesting wonder about the touring completeness of the parser 18:07 < Kanor-> :D 18:07 < Duesentrieb> Kanor-: it would be nice if it was type 2. but i'm afraid it isn't. no one has suceeded in providing a context free grammar for it. 18:07 < Duesentrieb> which is a source of infinite pain. 18:07 < Kanor-> XD 18:07 < Kanor-> i've heard that 18:07 < Duesentrieb> it's actually the worst thing about mediawiki. 18:07 < Reedy> I thought the users were? ;) 18:08 < Duesentrieb> oh. right. users. who needs them anyway. 18:08 < Kanor-> what's a user? 18:08 < Duesentrieb> you are :) 18:08 < Kanor-> oh, i thought i was a machine 18:09 < Kanor-> Reedy: you give the lectures or you receive the lectures? 18:09 < Reedy> Recieve 18:09 < Reedy> hah 18:11 < Kanor-> Duesentrieb: do you know about any information on the markup grammar? 18:11 < Duesentrieb> !syntax 18:11 < mwbot> For help with MediaWiki's Wikitext syntax, please see . For an (incomplete) formal specification, see . 18:11 -!- mattis^ [n=mattis@host26-245-dynamic.31-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Connection timed out] 18:11 < Kanor-> oh great 18:12 < Kanor-> i could have asked google as well 18:12 < Kanor-> :) 18:12 < Kanor-> yeah, i guess i'm an user 18:12 < Kanor-> :D 18:12 < CIA-66> daniel * r59383 /trunk/WikiWord/ (13 files in 5 dirs): feature vector cache (INCOMPLETE, does not compile) 18:13 -!- siebrand [n=beis@sm.xs4all.nl] has joined #mediawiki 18:14 -!- mattis^ [n=mattis@79.40.243.11] has joined #mediawiki 18:23 -!- jdpond [n=jdpond@mediawiki/jpond] has joined #MediaWiki 18:23 -!- Kipcool [n=chatzill@p5B0DB678.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mediawiki 18:25 < CIA-66> siebrand * r59384 /trunk/extensions/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Support GENDER for 'qp_user_polls_link' ($2) and 'qp_user_missing_polls_link' ($1) 18:26 -!- TrevorParscal [n=TrevorPa@216.38.133.254] has joined #mediawiki 18:29 -!- root-80686 [n=manuel@wikipedia/root-80686] has joined #mediawiki 18:30 -!- ireas [n=ireas@wikipedia/Ireas] has quit ["bye"] 18:31 < CIA-66> raymond * r59385 /trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: Followup r59363: Fix wrong syntax for Html::input. It accept other parameters then Xml::input. 18:34 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@152.81.13.143] has quit ["Leaving"] 18:34 -!- flubub1114 is now known as flubub 18:34 -!- Akshay [n=chatzill@86.99.170.16] has joined #mediawiki 18:35 -!- Akshay is now known as axyjo 18:35 < siebrand> some stuff is pretty broken. (the "60" default edit summary, and the preferences that cannot be changed) 18:36 -!- buzz_ [n=jools@lan.oxfordinspire.co.uk] has joined #mediawiki 18:37 -!- robla [n=robla@c-76-104-247-13.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 18:37 -!- Dantman [n=dantman@wikia/dantman] has joined #mediawiki 18:38 -!- RoanKattouw_away is now known as RoanKattouw 18:38 -!- Natalie [n=z@wikipedia/MZMcBride] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:39 < RoanKattouw> Kanor-: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Preprocessor_ABNF 18:39 < Kanor-> i was reading the markup current spec 18:40 -!- Natalie [n=z@wikipedia/MZMcBride] has joined #mediawiki 18:40 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Deploy LiquidThreads on strategy.wikimedia.org and usability.wikimedia.org - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20118 +comment (agarrett) 18:41 < microm> right now, my firefox is completely hung opening up a mediawiki page, is there anyway I can tell what is causing it to hang (I can't even see the page, firefox is completely hung) 18:43 < MaxSem> which FF version? 18:43 < MaxSem> any plugins installed? 18:43 -!- akozak [n=alex@70-36-134-126.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #mediawiki 18:44 -!- foksieloy [n=Miranda@93.138.123.94] has joined #mediawiki 18:44 < microm> 3.5.4. plugins have no effect, I disabled them all and it did not improve the situation. I suspect something bad in the page itself 18:44 -!- Laura|Away is now known as LauraHale 18:44 < MaxSem> works for me, linkie? 18:45 < microm> for instance, I see a non-fully qualified domain name as a link, eg. http://machine/path/ 18:46 < RoanKattouw> microm: That kinda stuff shouldn't crash browsers. If it does, that's a bug in your browser 18:46 -!- mattis^ [n=mattis@79.40.243.11] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 18:49 < CIA-66> werdna * r59386 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/ (13 files in 3 dirs): 18:49 < CIA-66> LiquidThreads tab re-working. 18:49 < CIA-66> Previously, there was a hook being added in the constructor for most views, in which confusing and vector-incompatible changes were made to the tabs. 18:49 < CIA-66> This is different now, the tab modifications are consistent within each talkpage/view domain, and they are done centrally where appropriate, and they work with vector. 18:50 < microm> RoanKattouw: that was it. firefox crashed on it. I edited the page in explorer, and fixed the url to a FQDN url and it no longer crashes. 18:50 -!- cirwin [n=conrad@ipmas.corpus.cam.ac.uk] has joined #mediawiki 18:51 -!- SPQRobin1 [n=Robin@d54C5A3F9.access.telenet.be] has quit ["Leaving."] 18:52 < MaxSem> firecrap is still guilty. no content should crash a browser 18:53 < wikibugs> (FIXED) LiquidThreads tab customisation does not play nicely with Vector Skin - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20642 +comment (agarrett) 18:54 < Amgine> RoanKattouw: What is the easiest way to get html output for current pages? 18:55 -!- Natalie is now known as Jacqueline 18:55 -!- Jacqueline is now known as Natalie 18:55 * microm agrees with MaxSem 18:56 < jdpond> Is there an easy way to override a system message in localhost without writing an extension? I think I've done this before, but going brain dead. 18:56 < MaxSem> Special:Allmessages? 18:57 < jdpond> MaxSem: Yes, could do this, but would have to go in and do it in 18 wikis. 18:57 -!- mattis^ [n=mattis@host148-31-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #mediawiki 18:58 < jdpond> Would like to just add it to the "montcostandard" script from localsettings.php 18:58 -!- Mike_lifeguard is now known as Mike||gone 18:59 < RoanKattouw> Amgine: action=raw 18:59 < Kanor-> Roan 19:00 < Kanor-> what you gave me 19:00 < Kanor-> is the grammar for the new parser, isn't it? 19:00 < RoanKattouw> The new preprocessor, ye 19:00 < RoanKattouw> s 19:00 < RoanKattouw> "new" as in about a year old 19:00 < Kanor-> XD 19:00 < Kanor-> well, still newer than the older 19:01 < Amgine> RoanKattouw: That's wikitax, ne? We're talking about a dump of current pages as html output. 19:01 < wikibugs> (FIXED) Flood flag for Stragetic Planning - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20347 +comment (agarrett) 19:01 -!- SPQRobin [n=Robin@wikimedia/SPQRobin] has joined #mediawiki 19:02 < Kanor-> i just have seen that the struggles come from the fact that this 19:02 < Kanor-> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Markup_spec/BNF 19:02 < Kanor-> is an effort to describe the *current* parser behaviour 19:03 < Kanor-> otherwise i don't understand why can't the italics/bold/aphostrophe thing be described 19:03 < Kanor-> i think i'll talk to Tim when he comes back ^^ 19:05 < RoanKattouw> Amgine: Oh, then use action=render 19:06 -!- brion [n=brion@wikipedia/Brion-VIBBER] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:06 -!- SPQRobin [n=Robin@wikimedia/SPQRobin] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:06 < Amgine> Thanks RoanKattouw. I wish there were a rendered dump, but I'm sure we can do something. 19:06 < RoanKattouw> Kanor-: Because there's lots of weird tweaks where the parser prefers certain interpretations where the grammar is ambiguous 19:07 * Kanor- wonders how is RoanKattouw able to follow several issues about mediawiki 19:07 < Kanor-> (at the same time) 19:07 * RoanKattouw has been an MW core dev for 2 1/2 years 19:07 < Reedy> Magix 19:07 < jdpond> MaxSem: I guess Special:Import of MediaWiki:Sf_editsource is easiest way. 19:07 < Kanor-> sounds reasonable, Roan, but I agree with Reedy 19:07 < Kanor-> xD 19:08 -!- brion [n=brion@wikipedia/Brion-VIBBER] has joined #mediawiki 19:08 < CIA-66> werdna * r59387 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/Dispatch.php: Fix fatals 19:08 < Kanor-> like the {{{{{ }}}}} thing? 19:09 < RoanKattouw> No, like '''Foo''Bar'''Baz''' 19:09 < RoanKattouw> The parser interprets that as ' ''Foo'' Bar '''Baz''' 19:10 < Kanor-> i'd interpret foobarbaz 19:10 < wikibugs> (mod) Wget and Perl get stale pages - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20481 (maxsem.wiki) 19:10 < RoanKattouw> Exactly, and the parser closes the at the end of the line 19:10 < Kanor-> sure 19:10 < Kanor-> pretty much like in html 19:10 < RoanKattouw> But what really happens is 'FooBarBaz 19:11 < RoanKattouw> Which is also a valid interpretation 19:11 < RoanKattouw> Or what about ''USS Arizona'''s guns 19:11 < Kanor-> that's a look ahead parsing 19:11 < RoanKattouw> Logically, that should be USS Arizonaguns 19:11 < Kanor-> and that's just weird 19:11 < Kanor-> :D 19:12 < RoanKattouw> Except it's USS Arizona's guns, because that's what people expect 19:12 < RoanKattouw> Of course Tim can tell you much much more about the parser 19:13 < Kanor-> then a context free grammar is not enough 19:13 < cirwin> I don't see what's not context free about that 19:13 < cirwin> but it's certainly complicated 19:13 < Kanor-> well, because the interpretation depends on the context =) 19:14 < RoanKattouw> That's not the definition of a context-free grammar 19:14 < Kanor-> ehm 19:14 < Kanor-> ok, i'll change the words 19:14 < Kanor-> then a type 2 grammar is not enough 19:15 < Kanor-> as far as i know 19:15 < Kanor-> anyways 19:15 < Kanor-> i mean, the interpretation of the symbols depends on what's around 19:16 < Kanor-> and for that i think at least a type 1 grammar is required 19:17 < RoanKattouw> Where type 1 is a recursive grammar? 19:17 < Kanor-> where type 1 is a context-sensitive 19:17 < Kanor-> grammar 19:17 * RoanKattouw only knows about regular, context-free and recursive grammers 19:17 < RoanKattouw> *grammars 19:17 < RoanKattouw> *languages even 19:17 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@77.250.53.164] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:18 < Kanor-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chomsky_hierarchy#The_hierarchy 19:18 -!- Scouse [n=chatzill@cpc1-shep9-0-0-cust352.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #mediawiki 19:18 < Kanor-> context free cannot have final tokens in the left part of the rule 19:18 < Kanor-> but context-sensitive can 19:19 -!- RoanKattouw [n=RoanKatt@mediawiki/Catrope] has quit ["brb"] 19:19 -!- Warui [n=Warui@77-22-75-133-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #mediawiki 19:19 -!- phyrex1an [n=phyrex1a@bumik.csbnet.se] has joined #mediawiki 19:19 < Kanor-> the thing is i don't know if ''USS Arizona'''s guns can be parsed with a context-free grammar 19:20 < cirwin> Kanor-: I think there are only a finite number of possible interpretations of things including 's so you could list them as several right-hand-sides 19:21 < Kanor-> there's a limited number of interpretations, but an infinite number of combinations for the tokens 19:21 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@dhcp-077-250-053-164.chello.nl] has joined #mediawiki 19:21 < Kanor-> ''USS Arizona'''s guns ''USS Arizona'''s guns 19:21 < Kanor-> how to parse that 19:22 < Warui> hi. has somebody experience with one of the paypal extensions? 19:22 < Warui> i.e. payflow pro gateway or paypal gateway 19:23 < Kanor-> the problem comes from the ambiguity of the aphostrosphe, and again i'm not sure if that can be solved with a context-free or even an unrestricted grammar 19:24 < cirwin> apostrophe_phrase = '' alpha_bound_phrase '''; alpha_bound_phrase = [a-z] (apostrophe_phrase [a-z] | alpha_bound_phrase); /me shrugs, I doubt it's worth the effort 19:25 -!- Marco27 [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 19:25 < wikibugs> (WFM) Users can't send gifts - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21623 +comment (jack) 19:25 -!- Marco27_ [n=Marco27@wikipedia/Marco27] has joined #mediawiki 19:25 < Kanor-> oh come on, it's pretty interesting ^^ 19:25 < cirwin> interesting, but worth wasting a few months working out and verifying? not to me :p 19:25 < Kanor-> oh wasting 19:25 -!- Marco27_ is now known as Marco27 19:25 < CIA-66> churchofemacs * r59388 /trunk/extensions/FlagPage/FlagPage.hooks.php: fixing FlagPage to also work in NS!= 0 19:25 < Reedy> Kanor-: i've got flex and bison coursework that needs doing if you really want ;) 19:26 < Kanor-> i did my flex lecture like 8 years ago, but thanks anyways 19:26 < Kanor-> :D 19:26 < Reedy> ;D 19:26 < Kanor-> wasting is such a bad word 19:28 < Kanor-> i prefer to call it researching 19:28 < Kanor-> :D 19:28 -!- flubub [n=Flubub@92.75.210.174] has quit ["Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de"] 19:28 < wikibugs> (NEW) MediaWiki 1.9.3 install fails under XAMPP 1.7.2 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21627 blocker; Normal; MediaWiki: Blocking; (kgregory) 19:29 < Kanor-> actually 19:29 < Reedy> Does anyone care that 1.9.3 wont install? :/ 19:29 < ashley> nobody cares about ancient MWs 19:30 < wikibugs> (WONTFIX) MediaWiki 1.9.3 install fails under XAMPP 1.7.2 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21627 +comment (sam) 19:30 < Kanor-> excuse me, are you from the past? 19:30 < ashley> 1.9.3 is considered obsolete anyway (per http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Version_lifecycle) 19:30 < Kanor-> maybe the guy has an old version of PHP 19:30 < Kanor-> or he is into the retro thing 19:31 < Reedy> nope 19:31 < Reedy> 5.3 19:31 < Reedy> PHP 5.3.0 + PEAR (PEAR, Mail_Mime, MDB2, Zend) 19:31 < ashley> heh, yeah 19:31 -!- Church_of_emacs [n=CoE@wikipedia/Church-of-emacs] has joined #mediawiki 19:31 < wikibugs> (mod) MediaWiki 1.9.3 install fails under XAMPP 1.7.2 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21627 +comment (sam) 19:31 < ashley> 5.3 has namespace support (iirc) so it chokes on "class Namespace" 19:31 < ashley> which is why said class was renamed to MWNamespace in modern versions 19:31 < Reedy> OH 19:31 < Reedy> http://www.nat32.com/xampp/wiki.htm 19:31 < cirwin> Kanor-: thinking more closely, while an accepting parser for wikisyntax could (possibly) be context free, a useful parser would not be, as the meaning of the start-of-line symbol depends on the start-of-line symbol of the previous line 19:32 < Reedy> https://sourceforge.net/projects/wikipedia/ 19:32 < Reedy> 1.9.3 19:32 < wikibugs> (mod) MediaWiki 1.9.3 install fails under XAMPP 1.7.2 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21627 (sam) 19:32 < ashley> eww sourceforge...don't people realize that mediawiki.org exists too? :) 19:33 < Reedy> Looks like XAMPP needs its pages updating 19:33 < MaxSem> wheee http://sourceforge.net/projects/wikipedia/reviews/ 19:33 < Kanor-> well, cirwin, i think that can be solved with a context-free parser 19:33 -!- mgrabovsky [n=MGrab@wikipedia/Mat--j-Grabovsk--] has joined #mediawiki 19:33 < Kanor-> you just need to do a look ahead parsing 19:34 < Kanor-> and to parse the newline until you find something else 19:34 -!- freakolowsky [n=freakolo@84-255-254-147.static.t-2.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:34 < Kanor-> and *not to parse the newline until you find something else 19:34 < Kanor-> a 19:34 < Kanor-> a 19:34 < Kanor-> argh 19:35 < Kanor-> i can't use linebreaks here 19:35 < Reedy> Maybe someone should close the MW project on SF? ;) 19:35 < Kanor-> "a\na" leads to "a
a", but "a\n\na" leads to "

a

a

" 19:35 < Kanor-> which looks pretty context free to me 19:36 < wikibugs> (mod) Users can't send gifts - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21623 (mariocesar.c50) 19:37 < cirwin> Kanor-: ":a\n :a\n:a" ->
a
a
a
, ":a\na\n:a" ->
a
a
a
- or something like that 19:37 < Warui> hi. has somebody experience with one of the paypal extensions? 19:37 < Warui> i.e. payflow pro gateway or paypal gateway 19:37 < cirwin> it's like the indentation used in python, you need to generate INDENT and OUTDENT tokens at the start and end of blocks, not space tokens at the start and end of lines 19:38 < AryehGregor> "a\na" leads to "a\na", doesn't it? 19:38 -!- yoyo[RKN] [n=Miranda@i577B6B09.versanet.de] has joined #mediawiki 19:38 < Kanor-> "a
a", afaik 19:38 < cirwin> with only a single linebreak, there's no
19:39 < Kanor-> really? 19:39 < AryehGregor> Reedy, my guess is it's impossible to close a project on SourceForge because they want the ad money, or some such sinister thing. Otherwise I assume someone would have closed it long ago. 19:39 < AryehGregor> Kanor-, yes. 19:39 < wikibugs> (mod) Undefined index: value_labels in SF_FormInputs.inc on line 158 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21607 +comment (yaron57) 19:39 * Kanor- just realized that has never used single linkebreaks ^^ 19:41 < Reedy> AryehGregor: Looking at https://sourceforge.net/account/projects for the projects im admin for, i can delete them.. 19:41 < MaxSem> is it possible at least to remove all those horribly outdated files from uploads? 19:41 < AryehGregor> Reedy, maybe we don't have an admin of the project. I dunno. 19:41 < AryehGregor> Does it say who the admins of a project are? 19:41 < Reedy> Tim/Brion are (granted, i know brion isnt a wmf guy par se now) 19:41 < Reedy> "eloquence, magnus_manske, timstarling, vibber" 19:42 < AryehGregor> Okay, then I give up. 19:42 < Reedy> haha 19:42 < AryehGregor> Ask one of them to delete it or move it, they're all still around somewhere. 19:42 < Reedy> Please visit http://www.mediawiki.org/ 19:42 < Reedy> Please note that MediaWiki's SourceForge project has been inactive since 2007, as we've moved our development to our own hosting. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download for all current MediaWiki ... 19:42 < Reedy> posted by vibber 110 days ago 19:42 < AryehGregor> Maybe there's a reason they haven't. 19:42 < AryehGregor> Probably best to keep it up so as not to break links . . . it's probably safe to remove the downloads, though. 19:42 < Reedy> well, yeah 19:42 < AryehGregor> Nobody should be downloading 1.9.3 or whatever. 19:43 < Reedy> I'm poking in #Apachefriends about getting XAMPP updated 19:43 < MaxSem> with what? 19:43 -!- SPQRobin [n=Robin@wikimedia/SPQRobin] has joined #mediawiki 19:43 < Reedy> Pointing to the right place? 19:43 < MaxSem> ah 19:43 < Reedy> ;D 19:44 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:44 < MaxSem> and update PHP's SQLite module to something newer than the current poop! 19:44 -!- Prodego [n=Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego] has joined #mediawiki 19:44 < Reedy> ;D 19:44 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has joined #mediawiki 19:45 < wikibugs> (mod) MediaWiki 1.9.3 install fails under XAMPP 1.7.2 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21627 +comment (kgregory) 19:45 < Kanor-> cirwin: what you wrote can be (i think) described with a context-free grammar 19:46 < cirwin> Kanor-: only if you have a non-context-free lexer 19:46 < Kanor-> uhm, context-free lexers do have memory 19:46 < Kanor-> and they can remember what was in the previous line 19:46 < wikibugs> (NEW) Close down "wikipedia" SourceForge Project, or at least, remove old releases - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21628 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (sam) 19:47 < cirwin> Kanor-: I don't see how that would be context free 19:47 < cirwin> maybe my intuits are playing up again though 19:48 < wikibugs> (mod) MediaWiki 1.9.3 install fails under XAMPP 1.7.2 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21627 (sam) 19:48 < cirwin> for space at the start of the line it is context free, because multiple spaces means the same as one space, so there is no recursion 19:48 < wikibugs> (mod) Close down "wikipedia" SourceForge Project, or at least, remove old releases - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21628 enhancement->normal; +comment (sam) 19:48 < Reedy> Do we just assign it to tim? ;) 19:49 < Kanor-> but spaces are in a
definition, and they can have special meaning as you pointed 19:50 -!- Daedalus969 [n=Daedalus@unaffiliated/daedalus969] has joined #mediawiki 19:50 * Kanor- is confused 19:50 < cirwin> your argument is that you can set up a context that runs from "\n: through \n: with no \n[^:] in the middle? 19:50 < AryehGregor> Reedy, maybe CC Tim and Brion. 19:50 * cirwin wishes his bugzillas got as much attention as this one 19:50 < Reedy> brion@pobox.com ? 19:51 -!- freephile [n=grundlet@74-92-60-193-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 19:51 < Kanor-> cirwin: i'm not sure what my argument is anymore :) 19:51 < cirwin> :) 19:51 -!- mdale [n=dale@pdpc/supporter/student/mdale] has quit ["Leaving."] 19:51 < wikibugs> (mod) Close down "wikipedia" SourceForge Project, or at least, remove old releases - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21628 +comment (sam) 19:51 < wikibugs> (mod) Close down "wikipedia" SourceForge Project, or at least, remove old releases - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21628 +comment (sam) 19:51 -!- Olipro [n=Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.active.olipro] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 19:53 -!- mdale [n=dale@pdpc/supporter/student/mdale] has joined #mediawiki 19:53 < AryehGregor> Haha, I just checked the reverse DNS of what chromium.org resolves to, and got 1e100.net. I was puzzled why Google was using some other company to host chromium.org, then I did a whois and got the joke. :P 19:53 * AryehGregor wonders why 1e100.net is used instead of google.com, though 19:53 -!- Sundance_Raphael [n=chatzill@pD9E9618D.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 19:54 < CIA-66> ariel * r59389 /branches/wmf-deployment/extensions/ExternalPages/: prep for test and deployment for fundraising 19:54 -!- freephile [n=grundlet@74-92-60-193-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #mediawiki 19:55 -!- Warui [n=Warui@77-22-75-133-dynip.superkabel.de] has quit [" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- It'll be on slashdot one day..."] 19:55 < Kanor-> anyways, cirwin , why would you put leading spaces in a : guided list? 19:56 < cirwin> oh, I wouldn't. they were intended as two seperate contrasting scenarios 19:56 < cirwin> *separate 19:56 < Reedy> Hmm, any chance of getting a link to Special:Code on mw.org put on the left hand side of bugzilla? 19:57 < Kanor-> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Kanor 19:57 < Kanor-> have a look, cirwin 19:57 -!- brion [n=brion@wikipedia/Brion-VIBBER] has quit [] 19:57 < Reedy> he was here! 19:57 < cirwin> ok 19:59 < Kanor-> i'm a little bit confused, but sounds to me like most of the markup would be context-free, and that the problems come with the symbols that have different functions, such as ' 20:00 < Kanor-> which reminds me of non-deterministic automata 20:01 < Kanor-> in fact, this last comment confused me even more, so i'm giving it up 20:01 < Kanor-> (for today) 20:01 < cirwin> sure :) 20:01 < thedj> == Original upload log == 20:01 < thedj> The original description page is/was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image%3APoisk.jpg here]. All following user names refer to en.wikipedia. 20:01 < thedj> * 2009-11-11 00:01 [[:en:User:Kurun|Kurun]] 398×300× (51457 bytes) ''{{Information |Description = Diagram of the Poisk module |Source = http://www.spaceflightnow.com/station/exp21/091110mrmlaunch/poisk.jpg |Date = ~~~~~ |Author = NASA |Permission = |other_versions = }}'' 20:01 < Kanor-> Reedy will be glad i do so, sure 20:01 < Kanor-> hah 20:01 < Reedy> Kanor-: ;D 20:01 -!- mgrabovsky [n=MGrab@wikipedia/Mat--j-Grabovsk--] has quit ["Carpe diem"] 20:02 -!- Scouse [n=chatzill@cpc1-shep9-0-0-cust352.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 20:04 < thedj> grah, sorry about the accidental paste there. 20:04 * thedj curses at library computers. 20:05 < thedj> rainman-sr: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#Search_limits 20:06 -!- Kanor- is now known as Kanor-away 20:07 < rainman-sr> thedj, yes, until we get new servers at least... although i think 500 is way too much anyways 20:08 < thedj> so "yes, temporarily disabled" .. 20:08 -!- RowCol [n=RowCol@41.104.127.195] has joined #mediawiki 20:08 < RowCol> hello 20:09 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has joined #mediawiki 20:14 < RowCol> I can't find $wgLogo in LocalSettings.php to change the logo ! 20:14 < RowCol> what can I do ? 20:14 < cirwin> add it :) 20:15 < tforsman> RowCol: add it like: $wgLogo = "$wgScriptPath/picture.png"; 20:16 < RowCol> what is $wgScriptPath ? I have to upload the image (in ftp) in which directory ? tfo 20:16 < RowCol> tforsman 20:17 < tforsman> RowCol: to make sure it takes the picture from "root" where the wiki is located 20:17 < tforsman> as i got also: $wgScriptPath = "/wiki"; 20:17 < CIA-66> dantman * r59390 /trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormInputs.inc: Bugfix from bug21607 20:19 -!- Miraceti [n=Miraceti@a91-155-182-79.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:19 < RowCol> ok thanks 20:19 < wikibugs> (mod) Undefined index: value_labels in SF_FormInputs.inc on line 158 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21607 (mediawiki-bugs) 20:21 -!- Brack10 [n=tbracket@66.35.2.50] has joined #mediawiki 20:21 < Brack10> Hi 20:21 < Brack10> what's the best way to bold lines of preformatted text or ? 20:24 -!- Kipcool [n=chatzill@p5B0DB678.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Connection timed out] 20:25 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@dhcp-077-250-053-164.chello.nl] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:25 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@wikipedia/Soxred93] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:27 -!- Oliphaunt [n=somebody@apsthree.st.ewi.tudelft.nl] has joined #mediawiki 20:28 -!- Oliphaunt [n=somebody@apsthree.st.ewi.tudelft.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 20:28 -!- Oliphaunt [n=somebody@130.161.158.140] has joined #mediawiki 20:28 -!- SPQRobin [n=Robin@wikimedia/SPQRobin] has quit ["Leaving."] 20:28 < Dantman> O_O They haven't deleted LinkHooks? 20:30 -!- Luxo [n=luxo@wikipedia/Luxo] has joined #mediawiki 20:34 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@221.30.73-86.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #mediawiki 20:36 < RowCol> how to change the content of the navigation bar ? 20:36 < MaxSem> sigh poor soul--> http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=User:Tavernier/1_15&diff=prev&oldid=288736 20:36 < MaxSem> never heard about regexes? 20:36 < RowCol> what? 20:37 < Alphos> RowCol what do you call "navigation bar" ? 20:38 < RowCol> the links on the left 20:38 -!- Brack10 [n=tbracket@66.35.2.50] has left #mediawiki [] 20:38 < RowCol> I have monobook skin 20:38 < Alphos> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar 20:38 < Alphos> !sidebar 20:38 < mwbot> To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] using its special syntax. For more details, see . 20:38 < Alphos> oh well 20:39 < RowCol> it says that I have to modify MediaWiki:Sidebar but I cant modify it when I acces it ! 20:40 < Alphos> are you sysop on your wiki ? 20:40 -!- ireas [n=ireas@dslb-088-066-027-255.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #mediawiki 20:40 -!- zocky [n=zocky@wikipedia/zocky] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:41 -!- Raymond_afk is now known as Raymond_ 20:41 < RowCol> I am the creator of the wiki (I instaled it) and I have acces to ftp. I don't know what do you mean by "sysop" :s I have a simple account whith my nickname (rowcol) 20:41 < Alphos> then there shouldn't be any problem if you are logged in 20:42 < RowCol> I'm logged in 20:42 < RowCol> I can't edit the MediaWiki:Sidebar page 20:42 < CIA-66> werdna * r59391 /trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/pages/TalkpageHeaderView.php: Fix definition of TalkpageHeaderView::customizeTabs 20:42 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:42 < RowCol> how can I know if I'm logged as sysop? 20:43 < Alphos> go to [[Special:ListUsers/sysop]] on your wiki 20:43 < Alphos> then to [[Special:ListUsers/bureaucrat]] 20:44 < Alphos> check if you are in any (or both) of those pages 20:44 < Alphos> (if your account is listed, i mean) 20:44 < RowCol> RowCol \u200e(Bureaucrate, Administrateur) 20:45 < RowCol> it is listed 20:45 < RowCol> ah to edit the page I have to clic on "create" -_- 20:45 < RowCol> I was searching for "edit" :p 20:45 < ialex> yes 20:45 < RowCol> ok 20:47 -!- Reedy [n=Reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has quit ["KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 3472, sources date: 20090703, built on: 2009/09/02 21:14:09 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/"] 20:49 < CIA-66> ialex * r59392 /trunk/extensions/Maps/Maps_ParamValidator.php: svn:eol-style native 20:50 < CIA-66> dale * r59393 /trunk/phase3/js2/ (7 files in 7 dirs): 20:50 < CIA-66> * added remote_insert_description (for adding linkback in html inserts of media) 20:50 < CIA-66> * added stream names for embed video streams. 20:50 < CIA-66> * some comment and variable name cleanup 20:50 -!- Kipcool [n=chatzill@p5B0DB678.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #mediawiki 20:52 < CIA-66> tparscal * r59394 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (11 files in 5 dirs): Refactored the preview module, integrating much of the functionality into the core of wikiEditor. 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Also tweaking it to use $wgJsMimeType instead of a hardcoded text/javascript. 21:04 < CIA-66> dale * r59397 /trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/php/languages/mwEmbed.i18n.php: * restored msg updates before to r59393 and merged in video stream titles 21:04 -!- Doink9731 [n=doink973@69.245.158.140] has joined #mediawiki 21:05 -!- Doink9731 [n=doink973@69.245.158.140] has left #mediawiki [] 21:07 -!- Cain` [n=Geek@unaffiliated/cain] has joined #MediaWiki 21:09 < wikibugs> (NEW) Enable patrolled edits on the Russian Wikiversity - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21629 enhancement; Normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (tac) 21:10 -!- rainman-sr [n=rainman@95.148.129.8] has joined #mediawiki 21:11 -!- Cain [n=Geek@unaffiliated/cain] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 21:11 -!- Cain` is now known as Cain 21:15 -!- p858snake_ [n=p858snak@unaffiliated/p858snake] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:17 -!- Suiseiseki [n=desudesu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:17 -!- Suiseiseki [n=desudesu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez] has joined #mediawiki 21:17 -!- cirwin [n=conrad@ipmas.corpus.cam.ac.uk] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 21:18 < CIA-66> raymond * r59398 /trunk/ (60 files in 51 dirs): Localisation updates for core and extension messages from translatewiki.net (2009-11-24 19:45 UTC) 21:19 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:20 -!- freephile [n=grundlet@74-92-60-193-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:21 -!- freephile [n=grundlet@74-92-60-193-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #mediawiki 21:22 -!- Reedy [n=Reedy@wikimedia/pdpc.active.reedy] has joined #mediawiki 21:23 -!- Mike||gone is now known as Mike_lifeguard 21:23 -!- Scouse [n=chatzill@cpc1-shep9-0-0-cust352.leic.cable.ntl.com] has joined #mediawiki 21:24 -!- Cain` [n=Geek@unaffiliated/cain] has joined #MediaWiki 21:28 -!- Cain [n=Geek@unaffiliated/cain] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 21:28 -!- Cain` is now known as Cain 21:31 -!- GerardM- [n=chatzill@dhcp-077-250-053-164.chello.nl] has joined #mediawiki 21:31 -!- Cain [n=Geek@unaffiliated/cain] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:32 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has joined #mediawiki 21:33 < CIA-66> tparscal * r59399 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/ (13 files in 6 dirs): Took first step to move publish buttons to a new publish module. 21:33 < CIA-66> dale * r59400 /trunk/phase3/js2/mwEmbed/ (5 files in 3 dirs): * some code comment cleanup 21:33 -!- mdale [n=dale@pdpc/supporter/student/mdale] has quit ["Leaving."] 21:34 < CIA-66> dantman * r59401 /trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormUtils.inc: Fix form utils so unhandledFieldsHTML uses hiddenFieldHTML, and hiddenFieldHTML defers to buttonHTML which has a more secure handling of attributes. 21:34 -!- robla [n=robla@c-76-104-247-13.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #mediawiki 21:35 < CIA-66> tparscal * r59402 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/WikiEditor/WikiEditor.php: Added publish to default config. 21:35 -!- MrZ-man [i=alexz@mediawiki/MrZ-man] has joined #mediawiki 21:36 -!- Cain [n=Geek@unaffiliated/cain] has joined #MediaWiki 21:36 < wikibugs> (mod) Implement PHP syntax validity checking to upload results to CodeReview tests - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20069 (maxsem.wiki) 21:43 < CIA-66> raymond * r59403 /trunk/extensions/Translate/groups/ (MediaWikiExtensions.php mediawiki-defines.txt): Follow-up r59399. Update translatewiki 21:47 -!- zocky [n=zocky@wikipedia/zocky] has joined #mediawiki 21:49 -!- Church_of_emacs [n=CoE@wikipedia/Church-of-emacs] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:50 -!- Bamieater [i=Melvin@53566C45.cable.casema.nl] has joined #mediawiki 21:51 -!- Bamie_ [i=Melvin@53566C45.cable.casema.nl] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:51 -!- DuTempete [n=chatzill@76-234-42-15.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #mediawiki 21:53 -!- Church_of_emacs [n=CoE@wikipedia/Church-of-emacs] has joined #mediawiki 21:55 -!- pyranha [n=pyranha@64-233-222-123.static.col.wideopenwest.com] has joined #mediawiki 21:57 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 21:57 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has joined #mediawiki 21:57 -!- MaxSem [n=max@wikimedia/MaxSem] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:58 < DuTempete> If I have a custom skin that I started using Vector, what are the possible reasons the vector-specific system messages would not work? 22:01 -!- ireas [n=ireas@wikipedia/Ireas] has quit ["bye"] 22:02 -!- Soxred93 [n=Soxred93@72.8.30.242] has joined #mediawiki 22:03 -!- Platonides [n=Platonid@wikipedia/Platonides] has joined #mediawiki 22:03 -!- c3l [n=c3l@c-b19de253.04-264-73746f13.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #mediawiki 22:04 < c3l> Hi, any ideas on how I can get a shoutbox to fit under somewhere under the navigation box? and what shoutbox that could fit for this task? 22:05 -!- Cain` [n=Geek@unaffiliated/cain] has joined #MediaWiki 22:10 -!- Bamie_ [i=Melvin@53566C45.cable.casema.nl] has joined #mediawiki 22:11 -!- Bamieater [i=Melvin@freenode/sponsor/bamieater] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:11 -!- Rjd0060 [n=Rjd0060@wikimedia/Rjd0060] has quit [Connection timed out] 22:12 -!- jMyles [n=justin@pool-96-238-103-3.pghkny.east.verizon.net] has joined #mediawiki 22:12 -!- Cain [n=Geek@unaffiliated/cain] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 22:12 -!- Cain` is now known as Cain 22:13 -!- werdan7 [n=w7@freenode/staff/wikimedia.werdan7] has quit [SendQ exceeded] 22:13 -!- Kipcool [n=chatzill@p5B0DB678.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091109134913]"] 22:16 < wikibugs> (NEW) LiquidThreads needs testing under obscure skins - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21630 enhancement; Normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (agarrett) 22:18 < wikibugs> (mod) LiquidThreads needs testing under obscure skins - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21630 +comment (raimond.spekking) 22:20 -!- stephan48 [n=rjp@pdpc/supporter/student/stephan48] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:21 -!- stephan48 [n=rjp@pdpc/supporter/student/stephan48] has joined #mediawiki 22:22 -!- stephan48 [n=rjp@pdpc/supporter/student/stephan48] has quit [Client Quit] 22:24 -!- Bensin [n=Bensin@wikimedia/Bensin] has joined #Mediawiki 22:25 < Bensin> If a user has problems visiting Wikipedia and instead of the browser rendering the page, it offers the user a file to download... Anyone know how to fix this? 22:26 < CIA-66> ialex * r59404 /trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: Use 'word-separator' message rather than harcoded space 22:26 -!- PDD [i=PDD@wikipedia/PDD] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 22:30 -!- root-80686 [n=manuel@wikipedia/root-80686] has left #mediawiki [] 22:31 < yoyo[RKN]> moin 22:32 < yoyo[RKN]> on wikipedia.de is a new skin "vektor". Can I use it in my mediwiki 1.13? Where can it be downloaded from? 22:32 < ialex> no 22:32 < ialex> it's in core, only since 1.16 22:33 < yoyo[RKN]> :( but thanx for answering 22:33 < pyranha> how do I tell which version I have? 22:34 < ialex> [[Special:Version]] 22:36 < pyranha> why does that make no sense to me? 22:36 < Reedy> Visit the page 22:36 < Reedy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version 22:36 -!- andi_ [n=andi@pD9FF5DBF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 22:37 < pyranha> 1.16alpha-wmf <--- is that bad? 22:37 < pyranha> :P 22:38 < Platonides> it's a version running on wikimedia wikis 22:38 < Platonides> or it did at least 22:39 < pyranha> I just took this stuff over and need to get rid of the old OBSD box it is running on 22:39 < pyranha> so this has to move to Solaris 10 22:39 < pyranha> I am hoping there is at least an upgrade path 22:39 -!- Scouse [n=chatzill@cpc1-shep9-0-0-cust352.leic.cable.ntl.com] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 22:39 < pyranha> looking at the upgrade docs now 22:40 < Platonides> if you're at 1.16alpha-wmf you're running from the wikimedia svn branch 22:40 < Platonides> svn up && run update.php in maintenance folder 22:40 < pyranha> and that's it? 22:40 < Platonides> why should it be harder? 22:40 < pyranha> sounds simpler than I expected ;-) 22:41 < Platonides> update.php is only needed if there were db changes 22:41 < Platonides> but it is safe to run if there's nothing to do 22:41 < pyranha> I expected more since I am moving the whole thing to a different box 22:41 < c3l> How do you update if you can only access your server through ftp? 22:41 < Reedy> magic 22:41 -!- ailmanki [n=ailmanki@80.218.112.106] has joined #mediawiki 22:41 < c3l> just throw in a entirely new release and then run update.php? 22:41 < Platonides> for moving: export the db and import at hte new machine 22:41 < Mike_lifeguard> yes 22:42 < c3l> all settings are stored in the db right? 22:42 < Platonides> copy the files :) 22:42 < Reedy> you need LocalSettings.php 22:42 < Platonides> c3l, and localsettings.php 22:42 < Platonides> c3l, also, you probably want to keep the images/ folder :) 22:42 < c3l> Platonides, ah yes thats true, thanks for the tip =) 22:42 < CIA-66> ariel * r59405 /branches/wmf-deployment/includes/OutputPage.php: steal CacheHeadersAfterSet hook from trunk for ExternalPages ext. for fundraiser 22:42 < c3l> Platonides, but besides this its just to replace with a new version? 22:43 < ailmanki> hi, what can be reason for index.php/Special:Statistics to be blank? 22:43 < Platonides> a php error 22:43 < Platonides> look at the error log 22:43 -!- p858snake [n=p858snak@unaffiliated/p858snake] has joined #mediawiki 22:43 < pyranha> ooops.....damn it....I looked at Special:Version on the mediawiki.org site ;-) 22:43 < pyranha> hahahaha 22:43 < pyranha> <-- idiot 22:45 < pyranha> Special:Version does not seem to exist on the old version I have 22:45 < Reedy> how old do you think it is? 22:46 < pyranha> pretty darned 22:47 < pyranha> RELEASE_NOTES say == MediaWiki 1.5.6 == January 19, 2006 22:47 < Reedy> loool 22:48 < pyranha> so i am assuming this is 1.5.7 perhaps? 22:48 < Platonides> probable 1.5.6 22:48 < Reedy> ;D 22:48 < Platonides> not that it matters for such a low number... 22:48 < Reedy> pyranha: look at a page source 22:48 < pyranha> so is the upgrade path still as easy? 22:48 < Reedy> wgVersion="1.16alpha-wmf", 22:48 < Reedy> got something like that? 22:49 < Platonides> Reedy, it won't have the javascript vars 22:49 -!- Church_of_emacs [n=CoE@wikipedia/Church-of-emacs] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:49 < Platonides> pyranha, backup everything 22:49 < Platonides> update 22:49 < Reedy> Ahh 22:49 -!- Church_of_emacs [n=CoE@141.84.69.67] has joined #mediawiki 22:49 < Platonides> save everything 22:49 < Platonides> unpack at new box 22:49 < ailmanki> hm in apache error log, is nothing related to that, and enabling error_reporting through LocalSettings, there had been no errors shown 22:49 < Platonides> the basic procedure is the same 22:50 < Platonides> replace the files with the new ones 22:50 < pyranha> I have installed the latest stable version in the new box already 22:50 < Platonides> run update.php 22:50 < pyranha> I was hoping for an update of the database followed by an export/import 22:50 < Platonides> no 22:50 < Platonides> replace the db created by the new box with the old one 22:50 < Platonides> then run update.php to put it up to date 22:51 < pyranha> oh 22:51 < pyranha> ok 22:51 < pyranha> so export/import --> update 22:51 < Platonides> yes 22:51 -!- DuTempete [n=chatzill@76-234-42-15.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 22:51 < Platonides> it doesn't matter too much in which box you do the update 22:51 -!- DuTempete [n=chatzill@76-234-42-15.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #mediawiki 22:51 < pyranha> sweet 22:51 < pyranha> I hope it turns out ;-) 22:52 < pyranha> I hate working 22:52 < pyranha> thanks for the help....I appreciate it 22:52 < yoyo[RKN]> how can I rename a user in mediawiki 1.13 22:52 < charitwo> Local Wikimedia whore Natalie discovers biological father Charles Manson http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26388459-401,00.html 22:52 < Platonides> Special:Renameuser 22:53 -!- Skizzerz [n=skizzerz@mediawiki/Skizzerz] has joined #mediawiki 22:54 < yoyo[RKN]> it is not on the special page 22:54 < yoyo[RKN]> but there is a page to change the password of an user 22:55 -!- yannf [n=yannf@wikipedia/yannf] has quit ["Like the Truth, I am elsewhere..."] 22:56 -!- Rjd0060 [n=Rjd0060@wikimedia/Rjd0060] has joined #mediawiki 22:56 -!- Luxo [n=luxo@wikipedia/Luxo] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.5/20091102152451]"] 22:56 < Duesentrieb> renameuser is an extension 22:57 < wikibugs> (mod) safe referencing the newest version of page using one of its history id - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21572 (Platonides) 22:59 -!- Prodego [n=Prodego@wikipedia/Prodego] has quit [Connection timed out] 23:00 -!- Raymond_ [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:00 -!- jdpond [n=jdpond@mediawiki/jpond] has quit [""Beam me up Scottie""] 23:03 -!- freephile [n=grundlet@74-92-60-193-NewEngland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit ["Leaving."] 23:03 < wikibugs> (mod) Some categories remain in Wantedcategories but they are empty - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17716 (seb.beyou) 23:04 -!- Danny_B [n=Danny_B@wikimedia/Danny-B.] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 23:04 -!- _Danny_B_ [n=Danny_B@wikimedia/Danny-B.] has joined #mediawiki 23:04 -!- _Danny_B_ is now known as Danny_B 23:04 -!- c3l [n=c3l@c-b19de253.04-264-73746f13.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 23:05 < werdna> Amgine: see mail 23:06 -!- stand [n=sdyck@fwall.medplus.com] has joined #mediawiki 23:06 -!- Raymond_ [n=Raymond@wikipedia/Raymond] has joined #mediawiki 23:07 -!- Danny_B 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'Night!"] 23:28 -!- Mike_lifeguard is now known as Mike||gone 23:28 < buzz_> LauraHale, there is lots of stuff in that feed, although you have invalid stuff in there like google tracker html etc 23:28 < buzz_> which is breaking it 23:29 < buzz_> view the source 23:29 < werdna> pong 23:29 < RowCol> how can I poste an image in a page ? 23:30 < werdna> !man Images 23:30 < mwbot> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Images 23:30 -!- _s_k_y_ [n=Red@cpe-70-95-187-195.hawaii.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:31 < buzz_> LauraHale, http://validator.w3.org/feed/check.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fanhistory.com%2Fw%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DSpecial%3ARecentChanges%26feed%3Drss 23:31 < buzz_> i assume you have hacked the rss output to put the tracking codes in there. bad idea 23:31 -!- Raymond_ is now known as Raymond_afk 23:31 < werdna> oops, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Images 23:32 < RowCol> werdna but in what directory i have to upload the image to use this syntaxe [[Image:Example.jpg]] 23:32 < RowCol> ? 23:32 < werdna> you upload it with the in built upload mechanism 23:32 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has quit [Connection reset by peer] 23:33 < RowCol> ?? 23:33 < RowCol> where is it ? 23:33 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has joined #mediawiki 23:33 < RowCol> I have to upload it via FTP, no ? 23:33 -!- DuTempete [n=chatzill@76-234-42-15.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 23:34 < Platonides> no 23:34 < Platonides> you upload from Special:Upload 23:34 < Platonides> if you have uploads enabled, that is 23:35 -!- Kaare is now known as KaareAway 23:36 < RowCol> it is disabled ! 23:37 < RowCol> so in where directory I have to upload it ? 23:37 < RowCol> what* 23:37 < Platonides> you don't upload to a directory 23:37 < Platonides> you enable uploads 23:37 < Platonides> !uploads 23:37 < mwbot> File uploads are an often-used feature of MediaWiki, but are disabled by default in all current release versions. To enable them, first make the upload directory (default images) writable by PHP, then set $wgEnableUploads to true in LocalSettings.php (i.e. "$wgEnableUploads = true;"). See for more info. 23:38 < LauraHale> buzz: I have no clue what was done. :( 23:38 < buzz_> LauraHale, who maintains your code ? 23:39 < Amgine> werdna: svn hates me. Try again? 23:39 < werdna> same output 23:39 < Amgine> bastard. 23:39 < LauraHale> buzz: Some one else? Getting support from ShakataGaNai at the moment. 23:40 < LauraHale> Aemufarmers normally maintains. 23:40 < LauraHale> Emufarmers even. 23:40 < buzz_> need to contact them and get them to remove the tracking stuff from the rss feed. unless of course the webserver is adding it automatically and getting it all wrong 23:40 < Amgine> Yep. 23:40 < Amgine> try again, werdna? 23:41 < buzz_> could be actually since the tracking stuff is even before your DOCTYPE so your website is quite broken too 23:41 < buzz_> look at the source to http://www.fanhistory.com/.. 23:41 -!- Ose [n=ose@wikia/Ose] has quit ["Give a person a fish and you feed them for a day; teach a person to use the Internet and they won't bother you for weeks"] 23:41 < LauraHale> We know things are broken. Trying to get fixed. 23:42 < werdna> not working still 23:42 < werdna> Amgine: you could just zip it up or something 23:42 < Amgine> Bah, that would be admitting defeat. And eaiser. 23:42 < buzz_> yes but you asked for help. i was trying to help. you didnt seem to know why the rss was broken..... telling me "we know its broken" seems rather unappreciative. ill be quiet and say nothing more 23:43 < LauraHale> Sorry. 23:44 < LauraHale> The wiki back end is totally effed. 23:44 < LauraHale> Hoping there was an obvious simple solution tht I could give to the tech people helping me. :) 23:44 < buzz_> well. they need to check how the tracking stuff is getting into the site 23:44 -!- [[sroracle]] [n=sroracle@c-98-215-178-14.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #mediawiki 23:44 < buzz_> either via skin/modified php files, or via the webserver 23:44 < buzz_> once thats removed/moved many of your problems might go. thats certainly the problem with the rss 23:45 < CIA-66> daniel * r59406 /trunk/WikiWord/ (21 files in 4 dirs): proximity store + builder (incomplete) 23:45 * LauraHale nod nods. 23:45 -!- Hendo001 is now known as hendo001|away 23:45 < LauraHale> I didn't realize the skin could muck things up that badly. :/ 23:47 < CIA-66> tparscal * r59407 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/css/vector/: Removed old vector jquery ui theme. 23:49 < Amgine> 23:49 < RowCol> how to allow only registred users to modefy and create pages ? 23:49 < RowCol> modify* 23:50 < werdna> Amgine: okay here comes the live review 23:51 < werdna> You should call your class SpecialGNSM instead of just GNSM 23:51 -!- Anubisss [i=Anubisss@77.111.172.52] has quit ["Haromfajta ember van. Aki tud szamolni es aki nem."] 23:51 < RowCol> what? 23:52 < werdna> !access | RowCol 23:52 < mwbot> RowCol: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . 23:52 < GreenAway> LauraHale: Well, the skin *is* the output, for the most part. Everything else just provides data to it. 23:52 < Platonides> LauraHale, your problem is, you didn't follow the rules to create the skin 23:53 < LauraHale> I got the skin from Transformers Wiki. 23:53 < werdna> Amgine: also, your special page name translations are wrong, they should be just GNSM, unless you want it to be Special:SpecialGNSM 23:53 < CIA-66> tparscal * r59408 /trunk/extensions/UsabilityInitiative/css/vector/ (13 files in 2 dirs): Added a much better jquery UI theme. 23:53 < LauraHale> And Shakata says going back to Monaco doesn't fix all the problems. :/ 23:54 < Amgine> Yah, I know werdna. 23:54 < buzz_> LauraHale, if you still have the "tracker" code in before the DOCTYPE when switching to monobook skin, then either the tracker code is in the code somewhere (hacked in badly), or its being inserted by the webserver. 23:55 < buzz_> upload a basic html page to your webserver and see if tracking code appears in it 23:55 < buzz_> to your web host 23:55 * LauraHale nod nods. 23:56 < werdna> style point: might be nice to split up execute() into some smaller parts 23:56 < Amgine> 23:56 -!- ThomasV [n=ThomasV@221.30.73-86.rev.gaoland.net] has quit ["Quitte"] 23:57 < Amgine> Oh, uhm, yah... it just kept growing. 23:57 < LauraHale> We're going to try to create a clean copy of Mediawiki, then copy the DB over. 23:57 < LauraHale> See if that doesn't fix problems. 23:58 < Platonides> !auth 23:58 < mwbot> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/AuthPlugin 23:59 -!- ITrace [n=justinst@216.81.188.2] has joined #mediawiki 23:59 -!- cirwin [n=conrad@ipmas.corpus.cam.ac.uk] has joined #mediawiki 23:59 -!- charitwo [n=charitwo@wikia/Charitwo] has quit [Success] --- Log closed Wed Nov 25 00:00:10 2009