[00:00:50] 03yaron * 10/trunk/extensions/ApprovedRevs/README: MediaWiki 1.16+ is now required for all the code [00:01:19] 03(mod) Text box showing over search bar looks horrible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33202 +comment (10brion) [00:04:43] 03(mod) Regression: Wikipedia Android app font size settings don't persist across articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33339 +comment (10brion) [00:09:58] Reedy: oooh I forgot about that bug [00:10:06] heh [00:10:21] I know it's relatively simple, just needs a bit of work doing [00:11:27] probably an "update" per table that existed sometime around then [00:21:00] the installer for 1.18wmf1 trunk defaults to 'aa' for Your Language and Wiki Language. furthermore, I can only find en-gb in the languages, and there doesn't seem to be an option for american english [00:21:22] seems like it should default to something reasonable, and should include my language in there somewhere.. [00:21:54] In most cases you shouldn't use 1.18wmf1 [00:22:06] and "en-us" is just en [00:22:13] it's not there. [00:22:56] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php?view=markup [00:22:57] It is [00:23:04] i just checked it out. it's not in the interface. [00:23:28] Something screwed with your setup [00:23:39] I refer you to my earlier point, In most cases you shouldn't use 1.18wmf1 [00:23:47] is it trivial to diallow anon edits except for a specific page? [00:24:04] no [00:24:07] but allow reads for all pages for anons [00:24:21] (with full admin access to the instances) [00:24:22] disabling anon edits on everypage is fine [00:24:26] Reedy, you aren't being helpful, just letting you know. [00:24:59] Reedy: i was hoping for a counterpart for wgWhitelistRead or something like page protection but in reverse [00:25:17] cortexman, you haven't actually asked a question [00:25:35] you are being a jerk. [00:25:37] http://imagebin.org/191837 [00:25:41] that's from a fresh checkout. [00:25:44] nothing wrong with my setup. [00:25:50] accept it, thanks. [00:25:56] Well, there obviously is [00:26:01] Cause it works fine for Wikipedia, no? [00:26:06] who knows [00:26:11] when is the last time someone used the installer on wikipedia. [00:26:14] cortexman is so friendly! ... [00:26:18] 03dantman * 10/trunk/phase3/tests/phpunit/includes/GlobalFunctions/GlobalTest.php: Followup r105809; Split up the tests with a dataProvider and add a round trip test. [00:26:27] jeremyb, my words aren't being taken seriously. [00:26:27] cortexman: maybe no one has? so what? [00:26:37] cortexman: You're not going to get help calling people jerks. [00:26:44] It's fine on my 1.18wmf1 dev install [00:26:44] obviously not but i wasn't getting help anyways [00:27:06] I still can't work out why you're installing 1.18wmf1, and you've not suggested a reason to it [00:27:13] you haven't suggested a reason not to do it [00:27:21] the reasonable assumption is that i have a good reason to do it, and that's why i'm doing it. [00:27:22] It's full of wikimedia hacks [00:27:29] Not really [00:27:34] maybe en is at the top of the list instead of sorted? [00:27:40] jeremyb, aa is at the top [00:27:47] view source and search for english? [00:28:29] jeremyb, only British English and Simple English [00:29:01] cortexman: Can you please just check out the regular 1.18 branch [00:29:24] johnduhart++ [00:29:38] The likelyhood of anyone fixing an issue with the installer on 1.18wmf1 is none [00:29:46] http://pastebin.com/gyV8PUar [00:29:47] WFM [00:29:48] unless it's cortexman [00:30:08] Reedy, i've worked with you before, i don't get what the deal is [00:30:15] i've been reporting bugs from wmf svn for years [00:30:20] Good for you [00:30:25] i'm glad you appreciate it, not lay off [00:30:26] Reedy: Odd, en-gb shows up twice there [00:30:27] Reedy: why is en-gb there in duplicate? [00:30:32] God knows [00:30:38] And funnily enough, I don't overly care [00:30:50] that was obvious the first time you said anything in response to me [00:30:55] i think you're having a bad day [00:31:07] ... [00:31:21] What was obvious the first time I said anything to you? [00:31:38] that you don't care [00:31:49] why should he care? [00:31:55] well if he doesn't care why should he speak to me. [00:32:01] none of those that have responded toyou care [00:32:06] to you* [00:32:08] strange [00:32:14] makes little sense [00:32:22] why would you do something if you don't care, unless your having a bad day? [00:32:25] if you take our advice and not use the wmf branch then maybe we'll care [00:32:26] *you're [00:32:38] or if you fix the problem yourself and provide a patch [00:32:40] what makes your advice so golden? i've spoken with brion and others about using it [00:32:47] those are the remotely feasible options [00:32:48] cortexman: If he responds enough he cares. [00:32:53] cortexman: oh? [00:32:57] I'm not sure how that has any weight on it [00:33:16] But when it works fine on the wikimedia cluster, and it doesn't for you, it suggests something is likely wrong with your setup [00:33:40] well, in my experience it's best to use this branch. it's a) stable and b) has pretty recent extension updates [00:33:51] since i have a large wikifarm i need both [00:34:31] Recent extension updates? [00:34:38] Only really if it falls under the "features" banner [00:34:49] A lot of the extensions aren't touched unless for specific bug fixes [00:34:52] i.e., CodeReview, SVGEdit [00:35:09] various editors. [00:35:16] Why are you using the installer if you're on a wikifarm anyway? [00:35:17] SVGEdit isn't in wmf [00:35:18] no one even said that you have to use the release branch. just try it and see if you have the same problem at least [00:35:29] And CR hasn't been updated in quite a while [00:35:49] is there a more secure branch [00:35:54] or only less secure branches [00:36:01] No [00:36:03] secure? [00:36:11] And 1.18wmf1 gets security fixes at the same time as everywhere else [00:36:13] uhhhh, release! [00:36:23] Or at least, into version controol [00:37:02] 03(mod) [SF] Special:RunQuery error takes down pages using it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33424 +comment (10yaron57) [00:37:36] Reedy: stealth scap [00:37:48] Indeed [00:37:58] But the general public doesn't know what we pushed ;) [00:38:26] That's pretty cool, I forgot stuff that's not in svn can get pushed :D [00:40:26] Reedy: Are ^demon's config stuff that does nothing going to get backed out of 1.19? [00:40:37] Probably not [00:40:40] They're in 1.18 iirc [00:40:56] Or not [00:40:57] really? [00:40:58] oh [00:41:04] Might be sane to delete them post branch [00:41:14] What I was thinkinh [00:41:25] I'll tag them if they're not tagged [00:42:25] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/98508 lol [00:42:32] Or just feel free to svn del after branch [00:42:38] As long as you remove from autoloader etc [00:45:03] johnduhart, are you likely to get round to that PK bug? If not, I might just do it [00:45:45] Reedy: Could you do it? I really need to work on this paper [00:46:01] Sure [00:46:05] Just didn't want to step on any toes [00:46:18] Thanks for asking :) [00:46:24] Saying that, I'm sure you can find other procrastination activities if necessary :p [00:46:43] hehe [00:51:05] 03(mod) Cannot login using IE6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33503 +comment (10free4spams) [00:51:58] 03(NEW) SemanticForms: `Has default form' property does not respect canonical namespace names. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33526 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticForms; (van.de.bugger) [00:53:16] New code comment: Johnduhart; 
- * @date 21 August 2011 \ + * @date 11 December 2011
\ Is that right?; [00:53:39] ashley: Can't wait for christmas again! [00:54:41] 03(mod) Translatable pages and FlaggedRevs don't play nice together - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33385 +comment (10aschulz4587) [00:55:04] 03(mod) Cannot login using IE6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33503 +comment (10free4spams) [00:56:13] 03(NEW) Wikipedia:About is hard-coded and not language-sensitive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33527 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: android; (philinje) [00:56:50] 03(mod) User table misses Primary Key - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33228 +comment (10sam) [00:57:28] 03(mod) Wikipedia:About is hard-coded and not language-sensitive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33527 +comment (10Phil Chang) [00:57:46] Reedy: Why don't you import the 1.3 tables yourself :P [00:58:04] That's true [00:58:28] http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/tags/REL1_3_0/phase3/maintenance/tables.sql & http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/tags/REL1_3_0/phase3/maintenance/indexes.sql [00:58:41] or just what they were pre 5210 [00:58:50] And 1.4: http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/tags/REL1_4_0/phase3/maintenance/tables.sql [00:59:04] few tables have been renamed over time though ;) [00:59:17] oh [00:59:19] good point [00:59:41] Install 1.3 [00:59:45] Upgrade to 1.6 [00:59:50] Upgrade to 1.18 [00:59:51] maybe not.. [01:00:00] 03(NEW) Use language selection to override default locale for i18n - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33528 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: android; (brion) [01:00:13] We should try that one time [01:00:24] like testing how robust our upgrades system really is [01:00:42] 03(mod) Wikipedia:About is hard-coded and not language-sensitive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33527 +comment (10yuvipanda) [01:00:54] I think the problem usually is the upgrade to 1.5 [01:01:20] 14(DUP) "About" is always showing [[en:Wikipedia:About]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32914 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [01:01:22] 03(mod) Wikipedia:About is hard-coded and not language-sensitive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33527 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [01:01:24] 1.5 was not a good release? [01:01:36] It's got it's own upgrade script [01:02:20] like "converting from cur/old to page/revision/text DB structure" [01:03:26] Looking at MySQLUpdater though, page/revision should have had theirs added [01:03:30] Something about converting the entire encoding [01:05:16] I can do the user table for starters [01:05:16] its when we converted to utf8 or something [01:11:38] 03(mod) Pre-save transform skips extensions using wikitext (gallery, references, footnotes, Cite, pipe trick, subst, signatures) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2700 +comment (10Nx.devnull) [01:16:40] 03(NEW) Switch from iframe to div using iscroll4 (experimental) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33529 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: android; (brion) [01:18:55] 03(NEW) Make it possible to clear app history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33530 enhancement; Wikimedia Mobile: android; (sam) [01:20:58] who knows which bug is about the upstream "breakage" in fx9 with the removal of that thing in the skins [01:21:20] 03(mod) Wikipedia Android app shows null menus on Droid Pro - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33342 +comment (10sam) [01:21:45] 04(REOPENED) Wikipedia Android app shows null menus on Droid Pro - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33342 +comment (10Reedy) [01:22:25] 03(mod) Make it possible to clear app history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33530 +comment (10sam) [01:22:35] 03(mod) Make it possible to clear app history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33530 (10Reedy) [01:25:02] New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; Thanks! To bad this gets noticed right after rel since it has been on trunk for 2 months or so :/; [01:25:08] 03(NEW) After using manage applications to "clear data" application won't restart - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33531 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: android; (sam) [01:26:27] 03(mod) After using manage applications to "clear data" application won't restart - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33531 +comment (10sam) [01:27:43] 03(mod) Android app doesn't allow search when webview overlaps with an image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32319 +comment (10brion) [01:30:15] 03krinkle * 10/trunk/phase3/resources/mediawiki/mediawiki.js: (log message trimmed) [01:30:15] [mediawiki.loader] fix numerous bugs and edge cases discovered with Roan on Etherpad/Skype [01:30:15] * 'undefined' state removed: [01:30:15] State 'undefined' has been removed. This was half-supported, probably with the [01:30:15] intention to support loading of modules that are registered server side after [01:30:15] the startup module was loaded (either because the server had a deployment while [01:30:16] the user was browsing the page, or because loader.load calls in HTML document or [01:30:30] 06(LATER) decodeURIcomponent doesn't support bad unicode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33098 +upstream; summary; +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [01:31:39] 03preilly * 10/trunk/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess/ (2 files): move carrier options settings to wiki page [01:33:09] 03(mod) SMW 1.6.2 #ask 'format' parameter is case-sensitive now! - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31138 +comment (10jeroen_dedauw) [01:34:02] 03aaron * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/StreamFile.php: Added a bit to StreamFile docs [01:34:19] 03(mod) Upload errors in collapsed fields are not visible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33433 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [01:35:50] 03(mod) Add Telugu Transliteration input method to Narayam - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33480 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [01:35:51] 03(mod) TeluguTransliteration not functional on Te Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33467 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [01:37:14] 03(mod) TeluguTransliteration not functional on Te Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33467 +comment (10mah) [01:37:25] 03(mod) TeluguTransliteration not functional on Te Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33467 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [01:38:02] 03(mod) Wikipedia iOS app does multiple lookups to genoames for one query - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33492 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [01:38:31] New code comment: Bawolff; It certainly makes sense for commons, I meant why are we trying to spread it to the average re-user ; [01:38:50] 03(mod) language list in setting not sorted by language name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33493 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [01:39:58] 03reedy * 10/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/ (7 files in 2 dirs): [01:39:58] Update deprecated code [01:39:58] Add documentation [01:39:58] Remove unused globals [01:41:43] 03(mod) 'SMWResultPrinter' constructor should require a Parser object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33491 +comment (10jeroen_dedauw) [01:42:42] 03(mod) language list in setting not sorted by language name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33493 +comment (10mah) [01:47:05] 03aaron * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/file/FSFile.php: [01:47:06] In FSFile: [01:47:06] * Added getMimeType() and extensionFromPath() functions. [01:47:06] * A few other minor code and comment cleanups. [01:48:31] is there a recommended way to add columns to an existing table for an extension? [01:48:38] 03reedy * 10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/ (8 files in 2 dirs): [01:48:38] Update deprecated code [01:48:38] Fix some inconsistant returns [01:48:38] Remove unused globals [01:48:46] tr|nn|, in what sense? [01:48:55] Generally extensions don't tend to add columns to core tables [01:49:32] Reedy, so it would be rather recommended to add own tables that reference to the core tables? [01:49:50] Yes [01:50:18] ok, thank ya a bunch :) [01:50:46] We've got some useful functions for actually doing the table addition etc, if you haven't found that already [01:51:08] oh tell me :) might save some precious time! [01:51:40] i would have just used dbw to send a query [01:51:52] 03(FIXED) Browsing history is not updated - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32909 +comment (10Brion Vibber) [01:52:20] where do i find the functions youve mentioned? [01:52:21] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/LoadExtensionSchemaUpdates [01:52:50] ah yes, think ive once stumbled over this one [01:53:01] For 1.17 onwards, we have the DatabaseUpdater class, and then you can do $updater->addTable() etc [01:53:04] referenced to in one of my bookmarks....... [01:53:25] oh that sounds mighty fine! [01:54:58] Reedy, so in combination with the hook LoadExtensionSchemaUpdates I can just tell the user to run update.php to get the tables installed, right [01:55:07] Exactly [01:55:10] 03(NEW) Saved pages item does not disappear when deleted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33532 minor; Wikimedia Mobile: android; (theranchcowboy) [01:56:47] 03(FIXED) After using manage applications to "clear data" application won't restart - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33531 +comment (10Reedy) [01:56:53] Right, now I remember-... I stumbled over both when I read through WikiLove's code [01:58:12] 03aaron * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) [01:58:12] In SpecialUploadStash: [01:58:12] * Updated outputLocallyScaledThumb() and outputLocalFile() to handle changes in r106752. [01:58:12] In MediaTransformOutput: [01:58:12] * Added a storage path field to the transformation output object and set it in File::maybeDoTransform(). [01:58:12] In File: [01:58:13] * Fixed maybeDoTransform() handling if repo member is not set and made it fully respect $wgIgnoreImageErrors. [01:59:16] 03(NEW) Give the site Main page a better title in history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33533 enhancement; Wikimedia Mobile: android; (sam) [02:01:19] DatabaseUpdater looks much nicer to me than the whole code for parsing wikitables... *g* [02:01:21] 03(mod) Firefox 9 dropped navigator.taintEnabled() - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31807 +comment (10Bawolff) [02:04:10] 14(DUP) Give the site Main page a better title in history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33533 +comment (10Tomasz Finc) [02:04:12] 03(mod) Show name of Main Page (instead of URL) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33283 +comment (10Tomasz Finc) [02:05:29] I'd quite like to automate replacing a specific string on 200-300 pages in a wiki. I can sort of see how the API works, and I have a basic knowledge of python. Anyone care to point me in the right direction? [02:06:37] Krenair: Have you heard of pywikipediabot framework? [02:06:39] !bot [02:07:12] Nope, looking into that now though [02:07:12] ( !bot usually would cause mw-bot to output a list of bot related links, but that bot appears to be down) [02:07:48] 03(mod) Wikipedia iOS app does multiple lookups to genoames for one query - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33492 +comment (10preilly) [02:08:02] New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; "1.8 or higher" o_O; [02:08:17] 03(FIXED) Wikipedia iOS app does multiple lookups to genoames for one query - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33492 (10Tomasz Finc) [02:08:50] bawolff, I just checked out the SVN repo, and it looks like this is a bit overkill considering I just want to do mass search-replace [02:09:35] I'm not overly familar with pywikipediabot, but i do know it is quite a big library. I wouldn't be surprised if they already have a bot designed to do that [02:09:52] Also check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Creating_a_bot - kind of wikipedia centric, but has lots of good info [02:09:55] There's the ReplaceText extension [02:11:05] I'm just a user on the wiki, so extensions aren't an option. [02:11:28] ah [02:11:32] 03(mod) Enable Narayam on mr.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32669 +comment (10mahitgar) [02:11:47] AWB will do it also, but is windows based [02:12:21] AutoWikiBrowser? [02:12:26] yup [02:12:33] Meh, Windows-only [02:12:59] Some functionality will work with wine/mono [02:13:07] 03(mod) Send $wgTitle to the fiery pit from whence it came - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23307 +comment (10sam) [02:15:28] Maybe api.php?action=edit can help do this. [02:15:53] I already have a copy of all the pages I want to modify, and I can modify them in memory. The problem is really just sending this back to the wiki [02:24:35] 03mah * 10/trunk/phase3/skins/common/commonElements.css: [02:24:35] Fix Bug 33496 - Misleading comment regarding preformatted font in commonElements.css [02:24:35] Author: Erwin Dokter [02:25:41] 03(FIXED) Misleading comment regarding preformatted font in commonElements.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33496 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [02:29:57] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (3 files in 2 dirs): added bug nr in rel notes and moved some hooks [02:37:38] Anyone around? [02:38:03] I'd like some help using the API... [02:38:15] !ask | Krenair [02:38:35] Huh - who killed mw-bot o_O [02:38:47] JeroenDeDauw, read up the chat log - I already explained the situation [02:41:02] New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; $skin->getTitle is now deprecated though :); [02:43:01] New code comment: Dantman; If you're talking about a ui-element then yes getRelevantTitle is desired over getTitle. Otherwise g; [02:45:01] New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; Oops - you're right - I was thinking of skin->link :); [02:50:20] i can't remember, is sumanah back yet? [02:50:30] 03(mod) editwarning dialog does not appear in IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33497 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [02:51:07] 03(mod) [TestSwarm] Submit jobs for Special:JavaScriptTest as well - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33499 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [02:53:31] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (RELEASE-NOTES includes/SMW_Setup.php languages/SMW_Magic.php): Fixed internationalization of magic words [03:08:46] New code comment: Yaron Koren; I know - it's hard to imagine that I ever used MediaWiki 1.8, but apparently I did. :); [03:17:23] Krenair: Still have questions? [03:17:44] johnduhart, still haven't resolved my problem, no [03:28:20] johnduhart, do you have any idea how to simply modify pages with the api? [03:28:41] Yeah there's documentation all about the API, have you read that? [03:29:00] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Main_page [03:29:09] And https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Edit [03:29:37] Get a feel for it with the API sandbox: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox [03:29:58] Krenair: Any more questions just ping me :) [03:40:04] there's also api.php with no params [03:40:36] i've never done manual writes with the api but for my reads the built in docs always seemed sufficient [03:44:25] i did `bzip2 -d < NARA_cats.txt.bz2 | cut -d$'\t' -f2 | perl -lne 'print if /^\d+$/;' | sort | uniq | sort -r | head -n 50 > NARA_cats.50randIDs` [03:44:50] and then [03:44:50] $ bzip2 -d < NARA_cats.txt.bz2 | fgrep -f <(perl -lne 'print "\t$_\t";' < NARA_cats.50randIDs) | wc -l [03:44:54] 327 [03:44:59] gah [03:45:03] ww! [03:45:21] (the 2 lines about the api were for here) [04:01:26] Is anybody here familiar with media handling extensions? I have a tag version working good (...) but I'm having problems getting [[file:...mp3|...]] to work with the parameters I pass it [04:13:09] reddo - could you be more specific about the problem you're having? [04:14:52] when i use [[file:foo.mp3|color=00ff00]] I can't get the 00ff00 passed into the html that's output, it just ends up as #color which isn't valid [04:17:13] I didn't know that the [[file:..]] tag took in a "color" parameter... [04:17:49] reddo - is this within the tag? And if so, what extension are you using? [04:20:25] no, the works fine with passing the color parameter [04:20:38] i'm using http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MiniMp3 [04:25:04] reddo: our file syntax isn't designed to pass a colour parameter [04:26:13] there's no way to extend it to do so? [04:27:55] I assume it would require making changes to the core MediaWiki code, which is not recommended. [04:28:27] yeah, I don't want to mess with that [04:28:28] thanks [04:29:12] 03(mod) editwarning dialog does not appear in IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33497 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [04:29:29] 03(mod) It's difficult to tap into the search box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32917 (10Phil Chang) [04:29:31] 03(mod) Android app doesn't allow search when webview overlaps with an image - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32319 (10Phil Chang) [04:29:53] 03(mod) Article search not redone even after moving on 'near me' screen if map screen never closed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33500 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [04:35:46] 03(mod) Cannot login using IE6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33503 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [04:36:53] 03(mod) Installer: database selection JS is flaky on page=DBConnect with Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33506 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [04:37:22] 03(mod) [PrefixSearch] Namespace name part of prefix search query should not override given namespace id(s) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22773 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [04:39:23] 03(mod) DNS configuration for Wikimedia Polska - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33509 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [04:40:50] 03(mod) Spell Check not working - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33511 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [04:41:35] 03(mod) "Zur�ck zum alten Formular" (back to the old form) links to the wrong page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33513 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [04:53:20] 03mah * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/CategoryViewer.php: [04:53:20] Bug 33514 - Make category "columns" (table cells) equal width [04:53:20] Author: Erwin Dokter [04:54:12] 03(FIXED) Make category "columns" (table cells) equal width - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33514 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [04:58:24] 03(mod) .odb file recognized as application/acad - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33515 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [04:58:42] 03(mod) It's impossible to type Hebrew characters in the search box until some Latin characters were typed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33518 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [04:59:15] 03(mod) Submit release to Amazon Appstore for Android - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33519 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [04:59:50] 03(mod) $wgMaxRedirects totally broke at some point in mw 1.19 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33520 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [05:00:09] 03(mod) Wikipedia:About is hard-coded and not language-sensitive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33527 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [05:00:35] 03(mod) Use language selection to override default locale for i18n - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33528 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [05:00:38] 03(mod) Switch from iframe to div using iscroll4 (experimental) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33529 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [05:00:56] 03(mod) Saved pages item does not disappear when deleted - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33532 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [05:16:16] johnduhart: Jeffwang certainly does seam a very unproductive MW.org member [05:21:32] Dantman: Rearchived that page, if he does it again I'll just delete it and create protect it. [05:23:08] johnduhart: Get rid of this garbage too https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AddGroups [05:23:48] done [05:36:19] hello sir [05:36:39] Welcome, prashant. [05:36:53] sir i having a problem to set up wiki8 [05:37:36] Are you aware of this page? [05:37:40] !installation [05:37:50] [05:38:09] well. That's annoying. [05:38:28] https://toolserver.org/~mwbot/botbrain.html [05:38:28] it show this, Can't write config file [05:38:35] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Installation [05:38:54] Prashant: do you have shell access? [05:39:08] wht is shell accss [05:39:28] On your server, can you access a shell prompt? [05:39:43] plz tell me step [05:40:27] Where are you hosting your wiki? What computer? [05:41:06] i have purchesed virtual dedicated hosting from godaddy.com [05:41:49] Well, that stops me p858snak|l. I've never dealt with godaddy. You? [05:42:09] i have purchesed web space [05:42:20] (other than being interviewed by that smarmy owner who promised to donate $1k to WMF and never did.) [05:42:40] mean [05:43:36] i have a problem in set up wiki [05:43:56] prashant: What you need to do is give the server permissions to write in config/ [05:44:11] I do not know how you can do that on GoDaddy. [05:44:13] plz tell step, to do so [05:44:23] Amgine: No, the config file is never written on the server anymore [05:44:35] prashant: What version of MediaWiki are you installing? [05:44:55] 1.6.12 mediawiki [05:45:32] prashant: Why are you installing such an old version? [05:45:44] [05:45:51] sir which versio0n i have to install [05:46:30] prashant: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download [05:47:09] my server has php5, is this mediawiki run on this php [05:47:48] If it's PHP 5.2.3 or newer, then yes. [05:48:58] in newer mediawiki, will i have to face a same problem [05:49:24] No, it will send the config file to you, and you can upload to the server. [05:49:50] i have php5 is this ok to uplaod [05:49:51] prashant: You would encounter many other issues running an version that old anyway. [05:50:05] prashant: If it's PHP 5.2.3 or newer, then yes. [05:50:26] prashant: What is your first language? [05:51:12] english [05:51:56] I apologize. Your dialect made me think it might be your second language? [06:18:46] 03aaron * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/backend/ (4 files): [06:18:46] * Made use of FileBackend function 'latest' param in FileOp. [06:18:46] * Added FileBackend process cache for fileExists(), getFileTimestamp(), and getLocalReference(). [06:18:46] * Refactored getFileSha1Base36() into parent class and subclass functions. [06:18:46] * Removed some FileBackendMultiWrite comment duplication. [06:30:01] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (EducationProgram.i18n.php EducationProgram.php): added missing stuff [06:30:16] 03(mod) Cannot login using IE6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33503 +comment (10free4spams) [06:30:30] I hope that wont get fixed [06:31:12] ^^ [06:36:24] 03(mod) Cannot login using IE6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33503 +comment (10free4spams) [06:43:18] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (5 files in 3 dirs): work on special:ambassadors [06:50:02] New code comment: Nikerabbit; Looks prone to bugs: \ $article = new Article( $pageTitle );; [06:55:32] New code comment: Nikerabbit; Am I supposed to see some difference in Special:Version?; [07:35:04] I would like to register users from outside mediawiki. Will adding a row to the user table be enough to do that? What sorts of things does mediawiki do to register a user? [07:41:14] 03(mod) Translatable pages and FlaggedRevs don't play nice together - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33385 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [07:48:57] hi, how do i create a page notice for my own e-mail page? [07:50:02] New code comment: Nx; If you can find an extension that uses setFunctionTagHook - with the patch the tag will be listed on; [07:55:50] how do i change my wiki to require users to register first before they can edit pages? [07:57:36] nvm [07:58:01] needhelp1: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access [08:08:07] p858snake|l, i cant figure out how to make it to where users have to register before editing? [08:08:15] i see how i can prevent anyone from editing. [08:08:24] how do i require regestration [08:09:15] 03(mod) decodeURIcomponent doesn't support bad unicode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33098 +comment (10listenleser) [08:24:32] New code comment: Nikerabbit; This code hurts my eyes.; [08:31:48] New code comment: Santhosh.thottingal; I am marking the revision ok, but if we don't have a clear idea about the transliteration scheme, in; [08:32:36] 03nikerabbit * 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/specials/SpecialTranslate.php: Extra space removed [08:39:18] New code comment: Nikerabbit; Uses spaces instead of tabs.; [08:50:44] mornin! [09:00:52] hi [09:01:57] 03santhosh * 10/trunk/extensions/WebFonts/ (4 files in 2 dirs): [09:01:57] Add Special:WebFonts for previewing the fonts and download. [09:01:57] i18n card #283 [09:04:09] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionScores/ (ContributionScores.php ContributionScores_body.php): [09:04:09] Minor refactoring: [09:04:09] * remove unused constant CONTRIBUTIONSCORES_EXTPATH [09:04:09] * replace CONTRIBUTIONSCORES_PATH constant by more often used $dir [09:04:09] * remove superfluous getDescription() [09:04:09] * remove use of some unneeded/unused globals [09:04:10] * use Html functions instead of raw HTML in some cases. [09:14:43] 03(VERIFIED) Misleading comment regarding preformatted font in commonElements.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33496 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [09:15:18] 03(NEW) No bold or italics with limit=0 in query - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33535 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (contrafibularity) [09:15:32] 03santhosh * 10/trunk/extensions/WebFonts/SpecialWebFonts.i18n.php: Add the missing i18n file in r108120. [09:16:21] 03hashar * 10/trunk/phase3/docs/uidesign/monospace.html: [09:16:21] test rendering font-family for monospaced fonts [09:16:21] follow r108112 [09:20:33] New code comment: Raymond; Please add an alias file for translation the special page name. Thanks.; [09:23:27] 03nikerabbit * 10/trunk/extensions/WebFonts/resources/ (ext.webfonts.preview.css ext.webfonts.preview.js): CSS and JS cleanup. Misc JS fixes [09:24:27] 03hashar * 10/trunk/phase3/docs/uidesign/monospace.html: [09:24:27] additional monospaced font-family hacks [09:24:27] font-family: monospace, monospace; [09:24:27] Is elegant and has my preference :-) [09:24:27] font-family: monospace, DOESNOTEXISTREALLY; [09:24:27] Really make it obvious [09:24:27] follow r108123 [09:25:48] New code comment: Raymond; I do not see the need for an extra i18n file. Could it not be integrated into WebFounts.i18n.php, co; [09:33:32] New code comment: Nikerabbit; It's also possible to do "$dir/ContributionScores.alias.php". It's matter of taste.; [09:33:57] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Linker.php: [09:33:58] Add additional parameter $altUserName to Linker::userLink to make it possible to override the displayed user name. [09:33:58] Renamed $userText to $userName following Nikerabbit's advice. [09:41:17] New code comment: Nikerabbit; RELEASE-NOTES entry could more descriptive.; [09:43:57] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionScores/ (ContributionScores.php ContributionScores_body.php): [09:43:57] * format number output of cscore parser function. [09:43:57] * add $wgContribScoresUseRealName to allow display of real user names per request[1]. Requires MediaWiki 1.19 alpha r108126. [09:43:57] * remove trailing whitespace. [09:43:57] [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Extension_talk:Contribution_Scores/Show_real_name_or_e-mail_instead_of_username%3F [09:45:06] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionScores/ (3 files): stylize.php. [09:49:35] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionScores/ContributionScores_body.php: Fix typo in r108127. [09:50:02] New code comment: Nikerabbit; Weird way to indent a function call.; [09:51:27] 03santhosh * 10/trunk/extensions/WebFonts/ (4 files): [09:51:27] Followup r108120 [09:51:27] Add alias file. [09:51:27] Fix a typo in message key. [09:51:27] Simplify Html:openElement with Html:Element. [09:57:32] New code comment: Nikerabbit; Don't you want to use .text here and elsewhere: \ + .html( mw.msg( 'categorytree-collapse-bullet' ); [10:02:03] New code comment: Nikerabbit; Ugly :o; [10:03:03] New code comment: Nikerabbit; The new variable could use some docs.; [10:04:47] New code comment: Siebrand; I kind of followed the way the original author worked, by [https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?tit; [10:06:47] 03(mod) Interwiki prefix c: could be used as a shortcut for commons: - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4676 +comment (10Axpde) [10:07:33] New code comment: Nikerabbit; "fetched Revision" doesn't say anything to me. Missing @since.; [10:07:52] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/extensions/ContributionScores/ContributionScores.php: Add some documentation for settings per CR on r108127. [10:09:47] New code comment: Nikerabbit; Who wants this and why? How is this extension used? Is it compatible with SMW?; [10:14:03] New code comment: Santhosh.thottingal; Thanks!; [10:18:14] 03nikerabbit * 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/lqt.js: It's not filename but module name [10:26:52] 03nikerabbit * 10/trunk/extensions/LiquidThreads/lqt.js: Another unknown module [10:27:32] New code comment: Hashar; Nikerabbit, I am not sure why you marked this one new :-D; [10:29:17] New code comment: Nikerabbit; Because I keep tabs open for a while and CR doesn't detect conflicts.; [10:36:02] New code comment: Hashar; You might want to create a homepage at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MarkAsHelpful :-); [10:36:49] Nikerabbit: :-)) [10:41:44] 03(NEW) Setting to disable PediaPress integration? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33536 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: Collection; (admin) [10:45:12] freakolowsky, around? [10:46:24] whoop [10:48:00] you might be interested in r107376 where I refactored some stuff related to sourceFile() - you should be able to reduce code duplication in Oracle [10:48:39] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/107376 [10:49:58] i saw that the other day just haven't had time to take a look ... it's on TODO :D [10:55:38] 03maxsem * 10/trunk/extensions/FeaturedFeeds/FeaturedFeeds.body.php: Allow specifying feed page in user language, too - if allowed [10:58:08] 03santhosh * 10/trunk/extensions/WebFonts/ (SpecialWebFonts.i18n.php WebFonts.i18n.php WebFonts.php): [10:58:08] Remove SpecialWebFonts.i18n.php, merge the content to WebFonts.i18n.php [10:58:08] Followup r108120 [10:58:37] hello room! does anyone have any experiance running mediawiki on abyss web server? [11:01:08] jimmyjam, I doubt that. Though MW should work on everything that supports PHP and passes it more or less sane CGI variables [11:02:20] alright, sounds good. I haven't looked at any of the documentation yet, figured i would see how active this room was then look into it. Thanks for the answer. [11:04:00] 03hashar * 10/trunk/phase3/tests/parser/parserTest.inc: [11:04:00] parserTest need to clone user_former_groups table [11:04:01] Not sure why it is suddenly needed. [11:10:02] New code comment: Hashar; I can not reproduce the issue. \ I have locally reverted that revision, set up $wgMainCacheType = ; [11:13:57] New code comment: MaxSem; This extension is needed by the mobile team that currently relies on third-party tools for geolocati; [11:19:06] 03(NEW) RFE: Hook to change Enotif recipient list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33537 enhancement; MediaWiki: Email; (software) [11:20:13] MaxSem: when you have some time, it would be great to have a look at a Cite fixme : https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/102160 ;) [11:20:21] MaxSem: looks like some CSS tweaking :-) [11:20:29] CSS? [11:20:31] * MaxSem runs [11:21:21] I've looked at it yesterday, but I suck at frontend stuff [11:21:28] k k :) [11:21:34] will have to review / fix it so :D [11:22:23] CSS = complicated showcasing stuff [11:22:31] According to scientists, the Sun is pretty big.E. Miller, The Sun, (New York: Academic Press, 2005), 23-5. [11:22:31] The Moon, however, is not so big.R. Smith, "Size of the Moon", Scientific American, 46 (April 1978): 44-6. [11:22:32] ==Notes== [11:22:32] [11:22:36] oops sorry [11:22:56] neeed .... cofeeeee .... BAAAAAD! [11:23:02] Saruman: CSS is way better than the inline style we used early 90's :-D [11:23:03] Cite parser tests:) [11:23:12] hashar: true dat [11:23:18] oh, you''re that old? :) [11:23:34] OH MY GOD [11:23:40] THE TOOLTIPS ARE SUXXORS [11:24:49] hashar, teh best reference tooltips I've seen are at lurkmore.ru - they allow clicking on links and hide references section by default [11:25:32] unfortunately, their unclear copyright status didn't allow me to steal them:) [11:25:35] yeah I wish we could hide referecences [11:26:09] http://lurkmore.to/Медведев [11:26:11] looks "fun" [11:26:21] not sure what that article is about though [11:30:53] hashar, "Dmitry #pitiful Medvedev is the second head on Russia's CoA, well-known TV host, photographer and blogger speaker with his mouth of right things and doer of none of them, does of wong things without speaking about them, 1/2 of a famous comic duo, caretaker Tzar in 2008-2012" [11:31:30] Medvedev being Russia president, isn't he? :-) [11:33:09] no, he's a sock [11:33:31] hm [11:34:01] I got 15 extensions installed [11:34:10] three of them have their own tooltip implementation [11:34:46] heh [11:34:49] good for them [11:35:04] i'm debugging nasty exception with the parser [11:35:21] dont nike! [11:35:26] or you will get mad [11:36:40] it has something to do with striptstae, messagecache and poolworker [11:37:02] and of course it only appears in production environment [11:37:13] hello sir [11:39:24] prashant, hi [11:44:30] sir i am having a problem to install mediawiki.1.6.12, it show Can't write config file, wht i do [11:45:26] r u there [11:46:54] 1.6.12, lol [11:47:10] sir i have a problem in installing mediawiki 1.6.12 [11:47:48] do you realise it's antiquated? [11:48:39] monu, latest versions of MediaWiki don't have problems with writing the config file [11:50:04] sir i can not use latest version because of php, i want to use mediawiki1.6.12, wht i do to install [11:50:58] Well it't time you get php5 up and running. [11:51:56] i have php5, but not php 5+ [11:52:08] huh? [11:52:42] 1.6 has A LOT of unfixed security vulnerabilities [11:52:47] plz tell me the process to install mediawiki 1.6.12 [11:52:57] Dantman, he means PHP below 5.2.3 [11:53:38] Then install a more recent version but one that supports that level of php. [11:53:46] And start kicking your hosts customer service. [11:54:05] Because ANYTHING below 5.3 is not up to date with security patches. [11:54:11] And that includes the 5.2 we support. [11:55:22] i want to use temperary, [11:56:24] sir wht i do to install mediawiki [11:58:17] i want to use mediawiki1.6.12 [12:00:39] sir plz tell me how to install mediawiki 1.2.6 [12:04:36] Sir plz tell how [12:05:18] monu: that does not make any sense :) [12:06:03] monu: to write config file you have to make sure the "config" directory has write authorization [12:06:24] and you should probably install mediawiki 1.18 :) [12:07:26] is this version support php5 [12:07:39] yes [12:07:43] PHP 5.2.3 I think [12:07:46] or any later version [12:14:17] New code comment: Hashar; We could either: \ * hack the upstream jquery.tooltip javascript to append the tooltip to $("#bodyCont; [12:15:17] New code comment: Hashar; > Anyone know if there will be compatibility issues with popups navigator ? \ What is the popups navi; [12:19:02] New code comment: Hashar; Part of "The Plan"; [12:19:15] Oh my god I need to eat something [12:19:17] see you later [12:22:02] holy crap [12:22:08] 2 pm already how dd that happen [12:22:20] Amgine: lol he came back [12:22:45] 2PM... It's 4:22AM for me [12:25:16] Dantman, insomniac or early bird? [12:26:02] I wake up at 1PM... [12:26:22] And I have a problem eating. [12:44:04] Dantman: and go to bet at? ... if at all? [12:44:11] s/bet/bed/ [12:44:16] dunno [12:44:27] Hmm.. [12:44:47] I've tried 12-1AM but it usually takes till 3-4AM to actually get to sleep [12:45:40] :P [12:52:41] 03(mod) Misleading comment regarding preformatted font in commonElements.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33496 +comment (10erwin) [13:00:46] 03maxsem * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/LinksUpdate.php: Accessor for LinksUpdate's parser output [13:06:15] 03(NEW) RTL wikis has problem with - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33538 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SyntaxHighlight (GeSHi); (reza.energy) [13:07:01] 03(mod) RTL wikis has problem with - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33538 +i18n (10reza1615) [13:09:06] 03maxsem * 10/trunk/extensions/GeoData/ (GeoData.php GeoDataHooks.php): Added a limit of coordinates per page [13:17:08] re [13:24:40] 03(mod) RTL/bidirectional issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/745 (10Bawolff) [13:24:41] 03(mod) Line numbers are outside of left border when using on RTL wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33538 summary; +comment (10Bawolff) [13:29:14] 03(mod) Line numbers are outside of left border when using on RTL wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33538 summary (10Liangent) [13:33:25] 03maxsem * 10/trunk/extensions/GeoData/ApiQueryGeoSearch.php: Filter by namespace [13:35:00] 03maxsem * 10/trunk/extensions/GeoData/ApiQueryGeoSearch.php: Don't output coordinates as strings [13:49:53] 03(mod) Allow triple brace substitution on preload templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12853 -need-review +reviewed; +comment (10Bawolff) [13:51:28] 03(mod) Allow triple brace substitution on preload templates - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12853 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [14:02:25] 03(mod) New Comments At Top of Talk Page [+] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15494 +comment (10Bawolff) [14:16:53] 03(mod) Special Pages in MiserMode should report Manual:$wgQueryCacheLimit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33456 +comment (10Bawolff) [14:24:00] Turning off my out-of-office email autoreply.... [14:24:22] now [14:29:30] 03(mod) $wgMaxRedirects totally broke at some point in mw 1.19 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33520 +comment (10MrBlueSky) [14:30:04] 03(NEW) factbox title not localizing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33539 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (mrandmrsmurphy) [14:39:47] 03(mod) Special Pages in MiserMode should report Manual:$wgQueryCacheLimit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33456 +comment (10g.m.hagedorn) [14:40:07] hi ^demon, happy new year! [14:40:24] <^demon> Thanks, you too :) [14:41:08] 03(mod) RFE: Hook to change Enotif recipient list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33537 (10Reedy) [14:41:21] 03(mod) RFE: Hook to change Enotif recipient list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33537 +need-review +patch (10Reedy) [14:43:49] liangent: hey, how are you? [14:44:40] 03(mod) RFE: Hook to change Enotif recipient list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33537 +comment (10sam) [14:44:51] sumanah: hey [14:45:14] liangent: I was wondering if you had time to update the translation of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Main_page [14:47:02] New code comment: ^demon; Probably ok, but I'm curious why the warning was happening to begin with.; [14:47:42] 03(mod) LocalisationUpdate not updating FlaggedRevs messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33122 +comment (10marcin.cieslak) [14:49:02] 03hashar * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/media/XCF.php: (log message trimmed) [14:49:02] rewrite getXCFMetaData() to get ride of im identify [14:49:02] By reading the file header and unpacking the data, we can avoid [14:49:02] shelling out to imagemagick 'identify'. Save up some CPU cycles :D [14:49:03] An XCF is made of a canvas of a given width / height, the various [14:49:03] layers are applied to it which must fit in the canvas. So we just [14:49:03] use the canvas size :-) [14:49:25] 03(mod) LocalisationUpdate not updating FlaggedRevs messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33122 +comment (10sam) [14:50:16] 03(mod) Parser functions don't work anymore in MediaWiki:Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33321 +comment (10Bawolff) [14:50:33] New code comment: Hashar; I have implement an header reader in r108141. Thus we are no more using ImageMagick identify. \ Marki; [14:51:47] sumanah: I don't know how many people are reading it.. [14:52:29] and, I don't have much time doing it currently [14:52:37] liangent: ok, understood. [14:53:54] 03(mod) LocalisationUpdate not updating FlaggedRevs messages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33122 (10Reedy) [14:54:09] liangent: I just got a volunteer to redo that page (the English version) so it is more useful. So I just wondered whether it would also be useful to get the translation updated. But you do not have time, so that is ok [14:55:50] sumanah: I often think "localized docs are usually outdated so going to the original version can be better" when reading doc [14:56:30] liangent: right. It's a vicious circle. Updated docs get read and therefore they get updated; outdated docs are unread so no one bothers to read or update them. [14:57:38] hexmode: ping re upcoming meetings -- anything coming up today, tomorrow, or early next week? [15:02:02] New code comment: ^demon; Was done as part of r106460.; [15:03:38] sumanah: can we have auto-generated api doc updated somehow? [15:03:51] make use of translatewiki [15:04:15] liangent: there are autogenerated docs. [15:04:29] liangent: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php [15:04:56] liangent: but that is only good for reference, not for tutorial. [15:05:05] back in a moment [15:05:11] eh I mean have it localized [15:05:33] 03(NEW) Cleanup old "pagelinks" records which reference deleted pages in the Portuguese Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33540 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (malafaya) [15:05:38] I think it was vaguely discussed at somepoint [15:06:06] liangent, that information is not for casual visitors. IT professionals must know English anyway [15:06:54] 03hashar * 10/trunk/phase3/docs/uidesign/monospace.html: explanations by Erwin Dokter on bug 33496 [15:07:46] 03(mod) Misleading comment regarding preformatted font in commonElements.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33496 +comment (10hashar) [15:09:25] MaxSem: what about Special:ApiSandbox [15:09:38] What about it/ [15:09:47] it seems it's partly translatable [15:09:55] Is there any way to escape | in parser funcs so its processed one level down, without using {{!}} (trying to write a unit test) [15:10:05] &#xxx; [15:10:11] the extension itself is 100% translated [15:10:23] unfortunatly | doesn't seem to be processed at the next level [15:10:38] however, descriptions it retrieves from the API are not [15:11:55] pure MW's help is around 140kb [15:12:17] MaxSem: so if we make auto doc translatable the api sandbox will be translated automatically? [15:12:19] it's just 2 times less than current overall size of English translations [15:12:33] what does MW's help mean [15:12:45] so you're proposing to increase translations by 50% in size [15:12:47] !help [15:12:52] with very little benefit [15:13:01] for very small number of people [15:13:14] bawolff: {{int:pipe-separator}} [15:13:26] * bawolff tries that [15:13:28] I mean what you see when visiting api.php [15:13:28] liangent: here is a shortcut: | [15:14:11] liangent: That works. Thanks :) [15:14:18] (the same messages are given to ApiSandbox via action=paraminfo [15:14:58] bawolff: maybe make sure it's parsed in English? {{MediaWiki:Pipe-separator/en}} [15:15:18] My unit test will already be totally borked if not in english [15:15:43] I'm doing things like {{PLURAL:1|...}} because I can't use parser funcs [15:16:25] bawolff: I'm curious what you are doing [15:16:40] I'm trying to make a unit test for the sidebar [15:16:53] to test the stupid things people do with parser functions [15:17:05] bawolff: rock [15:17:10] bug 33321 [15:17:26] 03demon * 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (includes/SMW_Setup.php languages/SMW_Magic.php): Fix spaces -> tabs for r108114 [15:18:31] liangent, MaxSem, ok, I understand why translating all the API autogenerated docs would lead to a big expansion in translation size for little benefit, since most IT professionals do have to be able to get along in English. However I think there's a role for intro tutorial material in popular non-English languages [15:18:48] there's a reason O'Reilly publishes translations of books into French, Korean, Chinese, Spanish, etc. [15:19:11] I really dislike the "everyone else is english-centric" argument [15:19:18] I daren't work out how many more messages it'll add [15:19:23] it's a very self-sustaining argument, that one... :-( [15:19:26] Obviously, we're not going as far as localising parameters :p [15:19:32] *parameter names [15:20:12] 03(mod) editwarning dialog does not appear in IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33497 +comment (10mediawiki) [15:20:12] apergos: yeah. [15:20:32] apergos: did you see aharoni's post about that? [15:21:10] probably not, got a link? [15:21:12] apergos: https://aharoni.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/the-software-localization-paradox/ [15:21:18] thanks [15:21:32] New code comment: ^demon; File name ''should'' match the class name for easy finding, but it's not set in stone. Proper class ; [15:22:04] 03(mod) editwarning dialog does not appear in IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33497 +comment (10mediawiki) [15:22:07] apergos: basically: people like MaxSem and liangent just use the English versions of things because the English versions are usually better, but it's people like Max & liangent whose effort would be most useful in improving the localised versions. [15:22:51] uh huh [15:22:55] I use the localized versions [15:23:03] but I know I am in a tiny minotiry [15:23:10] minority [15:23:31] quick question: my API needs to retrieve either primary "stuff", or secondary, or both. what would be the nicest way to specify that: binary flags like &primary & secondary; primariness=primary|secondary? [15:23:50] or primarinaess=(primary|secondary|all)? [15:27:40] anyone? [15:27:46] ok, hexmode, dented and tweeted about testing a test deployment of MediaWiki 1.19 on Monday [15:28:13] sumanah++ [15:28:38] sumanah: I will try to find some interested wiki peeps, too [15:28:42] hexmode: good idea. [15:28:51] * bawolff personally likes primariness=primary|secondary best [15:28:53] hexmode: so, what will the relevant URL be? [15:29:01] btw, I'm using Ryan's wmflabs [15:29:11] http://deployment.wmflabs.org/ [15:31:49] 03hashar * 10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ (ArticleFeedbackv5.i18n.php SpecialArticleFeedbackv5.php): [15:31:49] Special:ArticleFeedbackv5 page title now translatable [15:31:49] fix r105027 [15:31:51] sumanah: fwiw, we're hoping to use this process to improve labs, too [15:34:33] 03bawolff * 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): [15:34:33] (bug 33321. Sort of) Adding a line to MediaWiki:Sidebar that contains a pipe, but doesn't [15:34:33] have any pipes after being transformed by MessageCache, causes exception on [15:34:33] all pages. [15:34:33] This can happen with lines like: [15:34:33] **{{#if:yes|Something}} [15:34:34] Thank you to liangent for figuring out how to escape a | without {{!}} existing and | not working. [15:35:39] 03(mod) Parser functions don't work anymore in MediaWiki:Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33321 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [15:38:28] Hmm, that bug is actually kind of scary. Imagine if a rouge wikipedia admin put something like that in MediaWiki:Sidebar [15:39:24] bawolff: Rouge or rogue? [15:39:56] <^demon> bawolff: Parser funcs in sidebar just sounds wrong to begin with. [15:40:08] hexmode: that is great! [15:40:10] ^demon: I agree 100% [15:40:59] Prove it's bad [15:41:00] tale: Well it could be a red-leaning admin on frwikipedia [15:41:09] then add $wgAllowBadStuffInSidebar [15:41:32] New code comment: Johnduhart; {{Messagedocumentation}}; [15:42:26] Reedy: To be fair, $wgEnableSidebarCache would make 90% of parserfunc stuff in sidebar totally fail [15:42:33] lolol [15:46:53] uga [15:47:44] any parser gurus around in about 30 minutes? [15:49:42] 03hashar * 10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ (ArticleFeedbackv5.i18n.php SpecialArticleFeedbackv5.php): [15:49:42] rename message introduced in r108144 [15:49:42] also added QQQ message [15:49:53] <^demon> Reedy: Can you delete memc key 'mediawikiwiki:codereview:stats1:MediaWiki'? [15:50:32] New code comment: Hashar; And the message was already there! Renamed it from: \ articlefeedbackv5-special-title \ to \ articlefee; [15:50:33] 03(mod) Parser functions don't work anymore in MediaWiki:Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33321 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [15:50:41] wow mid air collision with myself [15:50:47] New code comment: Johnduhart; 
- if ( '' != $this->lang ) { \ + if ( $this->lang ) {
\ '0' == false, etc.; [15:50:52] <^demon> bawolff: That takes real skill. [15:51:05] I think i had the bug open in more then one tab [15:52:01] bawolff: i got that too [15:52:16] i think bz is just broken [15:54:10] Are we completely set on using gerrit for code review for MediaWiki? [15:54:36] oh boy [15:54:42] I still am not thrilled about that [15:54:50] johnduhart: i hope not [15:54:52] Me neither [15:55:03] <^demon> Does anyone have a better suggestion? [15:55:12] ^demon: Phabricator [15:55:57] I've been playing around with it. Quirky to set up but it looks awesome [15:56:00] http://phabricator.org/ [15:56:16] <^demon> I like gerrit :( [15:56:46] we can just stop reviewing ode [15:56:46] i mean, that would only affect the few of us who do code review [15:57:06] Nikerabbit: hehe-wait is that serious suggestion? [15:57:16] we;re going to turn into facebook if we use phabricator [15:57:25] <^demon> Think how fast we could do deploys if we just skip reviewing :) [15:57:35] Anyone who knows how to correctly deal with user-group-specific CSS / JS? (r82285). Saw this on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Common.js#Group-specific_JS_and_CSS but does not work on Commons. (or I am doing something wrong.) [15:57:45] as long we there is a unit test for *everything* then I'm all for it ... [15:57:47] :-P [15:57:49] johnduhart: just complaining about the uneven workload [15:57:55] Nikerabbit: true [15:58:26] Nikerabbit: I think also the current process is that it's not easy for people who are not in the loop to do CR [15:58:30] <^demon> apergos: Writing tests takes time [15:58:34] I know it [15:58:44] 03(NEW) activating WikiLove for fa.wiktionary and fa.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33541 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikiLove; (reza.energy) [15:58:53] Like, if CodeReview told me 'hey someone wrote a new Api module' I would review that [15:59:02] apergos: what do you mean by that? [15:59:25] johnduhart: and it's not going to change [15:59:28] Who needs unit tests. Wikipedia finds regressions super fast. [16:00:03] I mean that if folks could actually run full unit tests over everything as it was deployed (changes to core anyways) then I would feel al ot happier about code that's reviewed somewhat quickly going live [16:00:20] yes but who wants to clean up after a bunch of broken db entries [16:00:28] when we can avoid breakin them in the first place [16:00:52] some code is just so obscure you need to assign someone to understand and review it [16:01:00] Hi [16:01:01] I am trying to install mediawiki for the first time [16:01:01] And I am having a strange inaccurate error message [16:01:07] Facebook engineers rave about Phabricator, describing it with glowing terms like "okay" and "mandatory". [16:01:11] that is pretty great :-D [16:01:19] lol [16:01:23] It's saying it can't connect to mysql database, yet I have tested it, and PHP connects to mysql database [16:01:56] Also, Phabricator's design is actually bearable to use http://awesomescreenshot.com/06frczt15 [16:03:02] <^demon> What's the workflow in phabricator? Is it push-for-review like gerrit? [16:03:46] ^demon: You don't push to a repo. You install a tool (arcanist) that generates diffs and pushes them to the server [16:03:52] for review [16:04:18] <^demon> johnduhart: So we have to all install this tool too? [16:04:34] <^demon> That's a drawback :\ [16:04:38] Yeah, that's the only negative here. [16:04:45] everyone's installing git or svn or something already [16:04:58] It allows you to paste in raw diffs but that's a pain [16:05:03] it's not neccesarily that huge a burden (depends) [16:05:27] thevoice-: is there anything odd about your setup, maybe? [16:05:30] <^demon> Does arcanist work cross-platform? [16:05:32] ^demon: arcanist docs: http://phabricator.com/docs/phabricator/article/Arcanist_User_Guide.html [16:05:56] ^demon: It's in PHP but I'm not 100% sure on windows support [16:05:57] * johnduhart looks [16:06:04] linux and macos [16:06:09] not that I can see [16:06:25] we have committers with winows boxen don't we? [16:06:29] <^demon> Yes we do. [16:06:35] yep [16:06:39] I ran a simple connect in a php script and it found it [16:06:39] bummer but that's how it is [16:07:24] {{sofixit}}, it's open source ;) [16:07:26] thevoice-: if you're not getting help here, try the mediawiki-l help list [16:07:32] !lists | thevoice- [16:07:51] <^demon> Other than "the UI is ugly" I've yet to hear a substantive complaint against gerrit. [16:07:55] hey, where's mw-bot? [16:08:02] sumanah: dead [16:08:03] <^demon> The workflow & architecture is sound. [16:08:30] !lists [16:08:35] petan: Petanbot: could you please restart or whatever to make sure !instructions work? [16:08:55] thevoice-: mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See http://lists.wikimedia.org/ for details. [16:08:56] sumanah: Petan doesn't run mw-bot [16:09:10] It's on the toolserver [16:09:12] right, johnduhart, but petan runs his wannabe replacement :) [16:09:38] if he wants it to replace mw-bot then it has to incorporate that feature [16:09:41] <^demon> We're too !lazy :) [16:09:55] bawolff, how would you like the more short primary=yes|no? [16:10:37] That also sounds fine to me [16:11:28] Speaking of mw-bot, what happened to it? [16:13:18] !hss | hashar [16:13:24] meh, no bot? [16:15:10] 03bawolff * 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (bug 33456) show $wgQueryCacheLimit on cached query pages, so users know that the results are artificially cut off, and its not just that there is only 1000 wanted files (or whatever else) on the wiki. [16:15:38] more code review! stop committing stuff [16:15:44] 03(FIXED) Special Pages in MiserMode should report Manual:$wgQueryCacheLimit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33456 +comment (10Bawolff) [16:15:45] please? :D [16:16:12] hashar: That one should be easy to review, its a one line message change [16:16:17] New code comment: ^demon; I could see it going either way...I could very well be searching for a word that's not in my phone's; [16:17:37] <^demon> hashar: I've been reviewing :) [16:21:43] 03ashley * 10/trunk/extensions/SolrStore/SolrConnectorStore.php: SolrStore: follow-up to r107212 -- fix typo spotted by Nikerabbit + general grammar tweaks [16:23:43] ^demon: I think I have spend the whole week doing review [16:23:47] :-/ [16:24:08] we will probably need to do some kind of rev triage at some point [16:24:49] 03(mod) Translation of "Wikipedia" namespace in Assamese for Assamese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33507 (10wikichaipau) [16:30:32] New code comment: Johnduhart; Is this still needed Niklas?; [16:33:17] New code comment: Johnduhart; I love the echos.; [16:33:56] 03hashar * 10/trunk/phase3/tests/phpunit/data/media/ (80x60-2layers.xcf 80x60-Greyscale.xcf 80x60-RGB.xcf): add basic XCF pictures for testing purpose [16:34:47] New code comment: Hashar; XCF test pictures added with r108149 in tests/phpunit/data/media; [16:40:43] hexmode: when is the 18 Jan bug triage? wanna add it to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Triage#List_of_bug_triage_meetings [16:41:34] sumanah, 18th January, surely? ;) [16:41:49] *when* [16:41:53] 03(mod) Parser functions don't work anymore in MediaWiki:Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33321 +comment (10toniher) [16:42:07] time [16:42:34] thevoice-: say again about the bug you may have found/ [16:42:35] ? [16:45:02] New code comment: Nikerabbit; As long as I need to support 1.19 still, yes. I added a comment clarifying that in later rev.; [16:45:11] johnduhart: 1.18 but still [16:49:56] sumanah: hi! are you back? [16:50:06] 03rsterbin * 10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ArticleFeedbackv5.php: Updated bucketing to make link option D the only one, as per Tuesday's status meeting [16:50:19] hi jeremyb. yes, I am [16:50:33] HNY, btw [16:50:44] Happy New Year to you as well. [16:50:57] sumanah: i wanted to send https://ticket.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketZoom&TicketID=6395874 your way [16:51:24] 03(NEW) custom license misses the text field for input - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33542 major; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (saibotrash) [16:51:33] jeremyb: I do not have permission to view that. [16:51:39] how odd [16:52:13] jeremyb: I believe I only have permission to work with the commit access queue in OTRS. [16:53:10] sumanah: anyway, basically he's complaining that some kind of editing process wrt dab pages is too hard and a regression. but he gives no details about what's wrong or what to change. anyway the part i thought would interest you is that he's offering to fix it for us :) [16:53:12] 03(NEW) mwe-upwiz-license-cc-subhead: unknown operation "sitename" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33543 normal; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (saibotrash) [16:53:59] jeremyb: Please forward to my email address. [16:54:02] Thanks. [16:54:14] sure, thank you :) [16:55:14] 03(mod) activating WikiLove for fa.wiktionary and fa.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33541 normal->15enhancement (10Reedy) [16:56:27] sumanah: let me know if you got it [17:00:21] 03(NEW) custom license: wrong link to Copyright_tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33544 minor; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (saibotrash) [17:00:36] 03(mod) custom license: wrong link to Copyright_tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33544 +i18n (10Saibo) [17:00:53] also, idk why i said he. on rereading i recall that i couldn't determine gender from the mail alone [17:03:39] sumanah: hello! happy new year and happy-catching-up-to-lots-of-email :) have fun! [17:04:26] hi yuvipanda :-) Happy New Year and thank you for your felicitations. I'm down from 499 to... 411 [17:04:32] New code comment: Johnduhart; 
+ private $mRevision; // base revision \ + private $mTemplates; // included ; 
[17:04:47] 	 sumanah: gotta catch them all :)
[17:08:57] 	 03(mod) Parser functions don't work anymore in MediaWiki:Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33321  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[17:10:12] 	 03greg *  10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): For new 'export all' feature, cleanup whitepspace, remove redundant check, add documentation. Bug 10574y
[17:10:36] 	 03(mod) Export pages should allow to export all pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/10574  +comment (10greg)
[17:11:02] 	 03(mod) Parser functions don't work anymore in MediaWiki:Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33321  +comment (10toniher)
[17:11:17] 	 New code comment: Turnstep; Thanks, applied in r108151; 
[17:12:37] 	 apergos, are dumps in page_id order?
[17:12:47] 	 yes indeed 
[17:14:42] 	 It's interesting to see over the first 1% or so, that for 1000 articles, it's somewhat in an alphabetical order
[17:14:50] 	 yes 
[17:15:04] 	 poring over the dumps is a pretty fun occupation
[17:15:11] 	 there's all kinds of weird things you discover
[17:17:02] 	 New code comment: MarkAHershberger; I don't know and didn't have time to investigate... so I left a full backtrace. ;); 
[17:21:05] 	 03(NEW) Adding options to Special:ListUsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33545 enhancement; MediaWiki: User interface; (mediawiki)
[17:21:38] 	 03(mod) Adding options to Special:ListUsers (hide permanent and temporaty blocks) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33545  summary (10[[kgh]])
[17:21:49] 	 03(mod) Adding options to Special:ListUsers (hide permanent and temporary blocks) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33545  summary (10[[kgh]])
[17:22:37] 	 03(mod) mwe-upwiz-license-cc-subhead: unknown operation "sitename" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33543  +comment (10Rainer@Rillke.eu)
[17:23:04] 	 yuvipanda: I'm down to 374.
[17:23:31] 	 03(NEW) Serbian (sr-ec and sr-el) should support GRAMMAR parser function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33546 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (theranchcowboy)
[17:24:17] 	 03maxsem *  10/trunk/extensions/GeoData/ (ApiQueryGeoSearch.php GeoData.body.php GeoDataHooks.php): Added prop and filter by primariness
[17:26:41] 	 03(mod) Do not parse .js/.css pages and save their parsed content in database tables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32858  +comment (10lambdav)
[17:27:32] 	 New code comment: Bawolff; Should possibly use wfUnpack to prevent php warnings in cases of malformed files.; 
[17:28:30] 	 03(mod) custom license misses the text field for input - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33542  +comment (10Rainer@Rillke.eu)
[17:29:36] 	 03(mod) Parser functions don't work anymore in MediaWiki:Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33321  +comment (10mediawiki)
[17:30:20] 	 03(mod) custom license: wrong link to Copyright_tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33544  +comment (10Rainer@Rillke.eu)
[17:30:39] 	 are there any privacy issues if I send user's new Date().getTimezoneOffset() to wmf server?
[17:30:52] 	 03(mod) Adding options to Special:ListUsers (hide permanent and temporary blocks) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33545  +comment (10Bawolff)
[17:32:34] 	 03(mod) Parser functions don't work anymore in MediaWiki:Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33321  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[17:34:05] 	 14(WFM) Parser functions don't work anymore in MediaWiki:Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33321  +comment (10Bawolff)
[17:35:26] 	 wheee
[17:40:17] 	 Where did yesterday (and today, for that matter) go in the channel logs?
[17:41:00] 	 mw-bot is dead
[17:41:10] 	 Cause TS is/was having issue
[17:41:18] 	  
[17:41:43] 	 Hey, we could have an Irish Wake! oh, wait, is not yet 10am here...
[17:42:00] 	 but whoever pung me should ping again.
[17:46:36] 	 03(mod) Serbian (sr-ec and sr-el) should support GRAMMAR parser function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33546  normal->15enhancement (10Reedy)
[17:49:17] 	 New code comment: Siebrand; 
 \ +'perfcached'           => 'The following data is cached and may not be up to date. ; 
[17:50:23] 	 03(mod) Serbian (sr-ec and sr-el) should support GRAMMAR parser function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33546  +comment (10sam)
[17:50:45] 	 ok so you want a wm-bot until old bot is back?
[17:50:52] 	 !bug
[17:52:31] 	 right
[17:52:32] 	 @reload
[17:52:32] 	 Channel config was reloaded
[17:52:38] 	 @infobot-on
[17:52:38] 	 Infobot enabled
[17:52:42] 	 !bug
[17:52:42] 	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=$1
[17:52:47] 	 !bug 10
[17:52:47] 	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10
[17:53:17] 	 @trustadd .*@wikimedia/.* trusted
[17:53:17] 	 Successfuly added .*@wikimedia/.*
[17:53:24] 	 @trustadd .*@wikipedia/.* trusted
[17:53:24] 	 Successfuly added .*@wikipedia/.*
[17:54:06] 	 03nikerabbit *  10/trunk/extensions/Translate/tag/PageTranslationHooks.php: Hopefully fix nasty bug where message cache interferes with the parser state, causing StripState to throw an exception
[17:54:12] 	 log is at http://bots.wmflabs.org/~petrb/logs/%23mediawiki/
[17:54:47] 	 New code comment: MarkAHershberger; Does this even work: \ +class LdapAuthenticationextends AuthPlugin {; 
[17:54:47] 	 New code comment: Brion VIBBER; Seems like the phone's input system already has a way to let you override, so why interfere?; 
[17:55:24] 	 !b alias bug
[17:55:25] 	 Successfully created
[17:56:02] 	 New code comment: Reedy; Already fixed in trunk; 
[17:56:18] 	 sumanah: done
[17:56:24] 	  Sumanah!
[17:56:35] 	 you wanted to enable bot here
[17:56:39] 	 hi there Amgine and hi petan 
[17:56:56] 	 03bawolff *  10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Follow-up r108147. PLURAL in message.
[17:56:57] 	 Is my assumption correct, you pung me earlier?
[17:56:59] 	 petan: well, more precisely, I want the functionality of http://toolserver.org/~mwbot/botbrain.html
[17:57:05] 	 http://bots.wmflabs.org/~petrb/db/%23mediawiki.htm
[17:57:07] 	 Amgine: I do not recall doing it but that means nothing.
[17:57:13] 	 it's already cpied
[17:57:32] 	 New code comment: Brion VIBBER; + var_dump( $header ); \ ^ this should probably be removed :); 
[17:57:43] 	 !not
[17:57:43] 	 Templates are not for programming.
[17:57:47] 	 New code comment: Bawolff; The message already provides $2 and $3 for the day and time independently. I didn't really think abo; 
[17:57:48] 	 petan: including updates since Thu Dec 22 ?
[17:57:54] 	 probably not
[17:58:04] 	 please get those as well, petan
[17:58:07] 	 kk, well, I got the list of student who will be on the UCOSP team, and want to get them started on something today if possible.
[17:58:13] 	 Amgine: yes!
[17:58:16] 	 you saw my reply?
[17:58:22] 	 @trustadd .*@mediawiki/..* trusted
[17:58:22] 	 Successfuly added .*@mediawiki/..*
[17:58:23] 	 Not yet, just woke up.
[17:59:15] 	 Amgine: Re: UCOSP: WikiMedia group members
[17:59:34] 	 Amgine: I already pointed them to How To Become A MediaWiki Hacker
[17:59:44] 	 Amgine: today is my first day back from vacation
[17:59:55] 	 Amgine: I have asked all of them to come into #mediawiki and introduce themselves
[18:00:09] 	  I shall look for them, and thank you!
[18:00:10] 	 Amgine: I figure, we find out their level of skill & expertise, then figure out an assignment for them early next week
[18:00:40] 	 Amgine: I have as much enthusiasm as you do, but I also have 345 emails in my inbox and need to respond to them
[18:01:02] 	 Amgine: I've heard from Dale, not from the other 3
[18:01:05] 	 No worries. Welcome back from vacation! see you at noon.
[18:01:09] 	 Amgine: thanks!
[18:01:10] 	 noon?
[18:01:25] 	 a "shoo, go do stuff" dismissal.
[18:02:15] * bawolff  waves to Amgine
[18:02:30] 	 Something's wrong with js tests in IE9: http://integration.mediawiki.org/testswarm/user/MediaWiki/
[18:02:40] 	  you realize, of course, that I will pick your brains fro this bawolff.
[18:02:50] 	 :)
[18:03:09] 	 bawolff: would you be interested in mentoring these 4 kids this semester?
[18:03:09] 	 03rmoen *  10/trunk/extensions/MoodBar/ (MoodBar.hooks.php modules/jquery.moodBar/jquery.moodBar.js): remove redundant mbEditToken config. use existing mw functions for getting user edit token
[18:03:15] 	 strike that. Looks like it was a timeout or something...
[18:03:36] 	 sumanah: I'd certainly be interested in helping
[18:03:44] 	 bawolff: cool
[18:03:47] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; @since?; 
[18:03:47] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; So updates didn't show before this change? Is this for making use X see updates for user Y (as oppos; 
[18:03:59] 	 bawolff: IIRC you cannot come to the Vancouver sprint on the 20th.  Is that correct?
[18:04:24] 	 That's correct
[18:04:29] 	 pshaw Sumanah, asking politely. 
[18:05:02] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; I definitely had failures before, which is why I did this rev.; 
[18:05:04] 	 03rmoen *  10/trunk/extensions/MoodBar/modules/ext.moodBar.dashboard/ext.moodBar.dashboard.js: use existing mw function for getting user edit token in fbd. follow up r108155
[18:06:00] 	 03maxsem *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/LinksUpdate.php: Follow-up r108137: @since
[18:15:28] 	 03rmoen *  10/trunk/extensions/MarkAsHelpful/ (3 files in 2 dirs): remove redundant mahEditToken and use existing user edit token. follow up r106740
[18:15:38] 	 Hi. I am trying to log users in using the mediawiki api in version 1.14. I noticed that if I try to log in as two different users using two different browsers (same machine), the second user to log in gets the same session cookie as the first. After that they both appear to be logged into the second's account. Why might this be happening? 
[18:16:12] 	 sumanah: do you have an idea which keys are those you needed to insert? you can use @regsearch to search for a regex in db
[18:16:37] 	 or @search... for a word
[18:16:45] 	 petan: I don't know.  I just know I added stuff after dec 22.
[18:16:57] 	 it's alphabeticaly sorted so I don't know what is new
[18:17:23] 	 !worstcase
[18:17:23] 	 Generally, the worst that can happen is that someone compromises your site, steals your data, deletes it and replaces it with kiddy porn. Then they start a spam service on your server advertising the kiddy porn to twenty million email addresses, daily. Then your home gets raided, you get fired and your wife leaves you. Then you get killed in your sleep by ninjas.
[18:17:27] 	 or, I am fairly certain stuff was added.
[18:17:28] 	 hm...
[18:17:37] 	 need to go, busy.
[18:17:40] 	 ok
[18:17:53] 	 same here... so dunno when I would have a time to do that...
[18:17:58] 	 hehe
[18:18:17] 	 New code comment: Siebrand; The fix is intended for the latter scenario. Hasn't been deployed yet, so not tested in the environm; 
[18:19:15] 	 wm-bot, that's what I'm trying to avoid
[18:20:31] 	 03(mod) Use language selection to override default locale for i18n - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33528  (10Phil Chang)
[18:20:31] 	 03(mod) Android App 1.1 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805  (10Phil Chang)
[18:21:42] 	 03(NEW) Toggling last section in MobileFrontend shows JS error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33547 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (brion)
[18:25:25] 	 brion: no problem that I add WikiPage to Context so that I can back https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/105795 out too?
[18:26:48] 	 03ialex *  10/trunk/extensions/MetavidWiki/includes/articlepages/MV_SequencePage.php: Call getTouched() on Article (well, subclass of) instead of Title
[18:28:25] 	 jonsteward: huh
[18:28:34] 	 what's wrong on that
[18:28:47] 	 New code comment: ^demon; Use Reflection to make sure it extends DatabaseBase before instantiating it.; 
[18:28:58] 	 well, because I would expect their sessions to stay seperate
[18:29:14] 	 sessions?
[18:29:16] 	 you mean irc
[18:29:34] 	 no I mean on mediawiki
[18:29:49] 	 I have no idea what you mean :|
[18:30:09] 	 the database?
[18:30:10] 	 Well, I'm trying to set up a page that users need to log into the wiki to see
[18:30:22] 	 a page that would be outside of the mediawiki installation
[18:30:28] 	 how is that related to wm-bot
[18:30:32] 	 and I want to log the users in from outside the wiki
[18:30:48] 	 just what he mentioned about worstcase
[18:30:54] 	 ah
[18:30:57] 	 right
[18:31:12] 	 I'm really at a loss with this problem though
[18:31:54] 	 because even users behind the same gateway (so their external ip looks the same is what I mean) are getting their mediawiki sessions switched
[18:34:56] 	 and I noticed that the api has been serving the second user the same session id cookie as the first after he logs in.
[18:35:34] 	 I am trying to find out if anybody knows the reason why this is happening
[18:39:09] 	 03preilly *  10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/javascripts/application.js: [Bug 33547] New: Toggling last section in MobileFrontend shows JS error
[18:39:48] 	 03(mod) Toggling last section in MobileFrontend shows JS error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33547  +comment (10preilly)
[18:40:19] 	 03(FIXED) Toggling last section in MobileFrontend shows JS error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33547  (10Patrick Reilly)
[18:41:32] 	 New code comment: Reedy; ^; 
[18:43:00] 	 03preilly *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/extensions/MobileFrontend/javascripts/application.js: 1.18wmf1: MFT r108160
[18:45:49] 	 03preilly *  10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/ApplicationTemplate.php: up version number and notice checking
[18:46:19] 	 03preilly *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/extensions/MobileFrontend/ApplicationTemplate.php: 1.18wmf1: MFT r108162
[18:49:24] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/db/Database.php:
[18:49:24] 	 Followup r107932
[18:49:24] 	 Check random class to be isntantiated is a subclass of DatabaseBase
[18:49:59] 	 Reedy: I didn't know is_subclass_of existed
[18:50:22] 	 Neither did I
[18:50:36] 	 Was in php4 apparently
[18:51:17] * AaronSchulz  hates Special:NewMessages
[18:54:43] 	 03(mod) Parser functions don't work anymore in MediaWiki:Sidebar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33321  +comment (10Mark Redekop)
[19:02:22] * yuvipanda  pokes Reedy about ShortUrl
[19:02:55] 	 Did we ever get anywhere with regards to the rewrites/whatever?
[19:03:00] 	 03aaron *  10/branches/REL1_18/extensions/FlaggedRevs/dataclasses/FlaggedRevsStats.php: Backported a bit from r98484 to avoid a PHP notice in some cases
[19:04:37] 	 03yaron *  10/trunk/extensions/ApprovedRevs/ (ApprovedRevs.i18n.php SpecialApprovedRevs.php): Removed 'view latest' link from display of unapproved pages (a pointless link), removed corresponding 'approvedrevs-viewlatest' message from i18n file
[19:05:06] 	 03ialex *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/Article.php: Per Nikerabbit, fix for r107637: added @since
[19:06:32] 	 New code comment: IAlex; Added @since in r108167; I choosed the name to be consistent with getRevIdFetched().; 
[19:07:47] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; Note that https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs/Restricting_unapproved_revisions is b; 
[19:08:20] 	 03yaron *  10/trunk/extensions/ApprovedRevs/ (ApprovedRevs.php README): New version: 0.6
[19:09:21] 	 Reedy: i thought RoanKattouw or you said 'oh, not from DocumentRoot? Then fine'
[19:09:34] 	 Yes that's pretty much right
[19:09:48] 	 If it's en.wp.o/r/123 --> en.wp.o/wiki/Special:ShortUrl/123 then that's fine
[19:09:50] 	 !labs is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Projects/Wikimedia_Labs
[19:09:50] 	 Key was added!
[19:11:27] 	 anyone know of any type of plugin or extension that would allow a user to authenticate themselves via PGP keys?  i had something set up that incorporated a decent bit of PHP, via a separate system and MySQL interface scripts, but meh
[19:11:32] * AaronSchulz  points ialex to r102187
[19:11:39] 	 Someone needs to figure out what the rewrite rule is for that
[19:14:09] 	 RoanKattouw: yes.
[19:18:53] * yuvipanda  looks around for someone who has actually written them before, unlike me who has just tinkered with them
[19:19:55] 	 bye
[19:26:32] 	 New code comment: Jack Phoenix; It depends; while it certainly looks funky in this context, it's true that I made fixes to SpecialTo; 
[19:26:34] 	 an i18n bug in a wmf site in the search box belongs to mediawiki-->internationalization or mediawiki extensions-->lucene search ?
[19:27:01] 	 AaronSchulz: I'm on it ;)
[19:27:17] 	 yuvipanda, doing the actual software deploy is the easy part :p
[19:27:17] 	 I'd go with the whitelist hook idea
[19:27:41] 	 Reedy: heh, true. I would now have to get apache up someplace and test the rule...
[19:27:41] 	 03laner *  10/trunk/extensions/LdapAuthentication/LdapAuthentication.php: Add missing variable. Thanks to Yuryu for bug fix.
[19:28:07] 	 Hello! I can't find how to display categories at the bottom so it looks like " Main cat > Subcat > Subsubcat "
[19:28:10] 	 I can probably test it fairly easily
[19:28:17] 	 New code comment: Jack Phoenix; What kind of bugs? I'm aware that in trunk $wgArticle is deprecated and the Article class was split ; 
[19:29:07] 	 Reedy: can you write it too? :D RewriteRule ^/r/(.*)$ /wiki/Special:ShortUrl/$1
[19:29:12] 	 seems good?
[19:30:00] 	 i think it shouldn't need any flags...
[19:32:32] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; He may be referring to the lack of an explicit oldid parameter.; 
[19:33:06] 	 03johnduhart *  10/trunk/extensions/ApiSandbox/ext.apiSandbox.js: Followup r99891, clean up javascript
[19:38:20] 	 yuvipanda, no dice
[19:39:54] 	 AaronSchulz: does http://www.dpaste.org/nVjpE/ seems OK?
[19:43:07] 	 ialex: I'd rather see a hook in checkReadPermissions()
[19:43:25] 	 right before $errors[] = $this->missingPermissionError( $action, $short );
[19:44:41] 	 AaronSchulz: this would only work for read checks
[19:45:16] 	 right, is there an ext that needs something else?
[19:45:36] 	 the problem with aborting is that it easily breaks other extensions
[19:46:30] 	 the model should basically be "let things restrict more and more"
[19:46:50] 	 03robin *  10/trunk/extensions/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi/SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi.class.php:
[19:46:50] 	 Add mw-content-ltr/rtl class: fixes bug 33538: Line numbers are outside of left border when using  on RTL wikis
[19:46:50] 	 Also make sure mw-content-ltr/rtl is the same as the dir attribute value.
[19:46:50] 	 Restrict that value to either ltr or rtl (not sure if rtl really needed; source
[19:46:50] 	 code is always ltr). Also remove text-align:left; as it can/should be set
[19:46:50] 	 manually in the  tag.
[19:46:56] 	 defining a custom whitelist is all that custom FR code needs
[19:47:30] 	 yuvipanda, might be my setup, can get /w/index.php?title=Special:ShortUrl/$1 to work ;)
[19:48:24] 	 03(FIXED) Line numbers are outside of left border when using  on RTL wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33538  +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin))
[19:49:20] 	 Reedy: :D
[19:49:27] 	 RoanKattouw: ^ from Reedy is good enough?
[19:49:59] 	 Reedy, yuvipanda: ??
[19:50:12] 	 RoanKattouw: rewriterule for deployment of shorturl
[19:50:19] 	 Yeah what's the rule
[19:50:27] 	 RewriteRule ^/r/(.*)$ /wiki/Special:ShortUrl/$1
[19:50:45] 	 or RewriteRule ^/r/(.*)$ /w/index.php?title=Special:ShortUrl/$1
[19:50:49] 	 I was looking for (and missed) $ wgUseCategoryBrowser ...
[19:50:59] 	 Looks sane to me
[19:51:10] 	 Which? Both?
[19:51:58] 	 Yeah
[19:52:06] 	 I don't know what's better. HTML in strings or a load of Html::element calls
[19:52:07] 	 First looks fine
[19:52:26] 	 First won't play ball on my dev install
[19:52:39] 	 johnduhart: I tend to use whatever makes sense. Use Html:: for building with variable stuff, strings for static stuff
[19:52:53] 	 good point
[19:53:10] 	 You know what, that's an excellent point
[19:53:34] * johnduhart  undoes his changes to SpecialApiSandbox
[19:54:35] 	 AaronSchulz: this one is better? http://www.dpaste.org/4j5mB/
[19:55:48] 	 RoanKattouw: anything blocking deploy, other than you finding time?
[19:55:53] 	 ialex: looks sane
[19:56:06] 	 Doesn't need Roan to do it
[19:56:25] 	 I can dark deploy most of it now, just need to get the apache changes inplace for the rest of it
[19:57:01] 	 I'll put them in gerrit
[19:57:15] 	 Cheers
[19:57:16] 	 03(NEW) Devanagari diacritics appear broken off in search results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33548 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Lucene Search; (Siddhartha.Ghai)
[19:57:22] 	 Saves me having to mess about with my git setup
[19:57:24] 	 AaronSchulz: just a problem, should we override other extension checks or not?
[19:57:35] 	 Oh, hmm
[19:57:43] 	 Or in redirects.conf
[19:58:20] 	 Reedy: /home/wikipedia/conf/redirects.conf
[19:58:26] 	 Simple as that?
[19:58:35] 	 Run sync-apache to deploy
[19:58:40] 	 Might wanna test it on srv193 first
[19:59:00] 	 Oh, wait, it's /h/w/conf/httpd/redirects.conf
[19:59:33] 	 OK so
[19:59:38] 	 I've actually read the code now
[19:59:45] 	 1. Edit /h/w/conf/httpd/redirects.conf
[19:59:47] 	 2. sync-apache
[19:59:47] 	 New code comment: Bawolff; Tagging 1.18. Its very easy for a user to totally screw up their wiki in a way thats difficult to re; 
[20:00:01] 	 3. ssh srv193  and run sudo apache2ctl graceful on that box
[20:00:05] 	 4. test on test.wp.o
[20:00:13] 	 5. apache-graceful-all
[20:00:31] 	 Ahm, that would be sudo apache2ctl reload I think, sorry
[20:00:46] 	 ialex: maybe you can pass a $result by ref, so extensions that what to *remove* pages can set it to false and return false too
[20:01:19] 	 Everywhere will get a /r/Foo that points to a non existant speical page
[20:01:20] 	 whee
[20:01:26] 	 yay! :D
[20:01:36] 	 AaronSchulz: good point
[20:01:45] 	 RoanKattouw: it needs a maint script to run...
[20:02:00] 	 03(mod) Lower Diacritics of Devanagari Hidden in Page Titles and Section Headings - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30809  +comment (10Siebrand)
[20:02:08] 	 yuvipanda: That's OK, Reedy can run it
[20:02:13] 	 indeed
[20:02:14] 	 whee
[20:02:15] 	 again
[20:02:17] 	 It doesn't absolutely need to run, though, does it
[20:02:19] 	 And technically, it doesn't even need to be run
[20:02:26] 	 It'll populate on the fly
[20:02:31] 	 I'm leaning towards that tbh
[20:02:33] 	 or if not, we've got issues ;)
[20:03:18] 	 03reedy *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/extensions/ShortUrl/: Branching ShortUrl into 1.18wmf1 for bug 1450 and bug 29827
[20:03:22] 	 :D
[20:03:27] 	 We can break testwiki in the meantime
[20:04:19] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/tools/make-wmf-branch/default.conf: Followup r108172, add ShortUrl to make-wmf-branch
[20:05:47] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Correct. The mystery man strikes again.; 
[20:05:52] 	 03(mod) RFE: Hook to change Enotif recipient list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33537  +comment (10software)
[20:05:56] 	 03yaron *  10/tags/extensions/ApprovedRevs/REL_0_6/ (9 files): Tag for version 0.6
[20:13:17] 	 yuvipanda is not in -tech
[20:13:24] 	 It's live on test, no rewrites yet
[20:14:05] 	 Reedy: i am now :)
[20:17:39] 	 sumanah: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Chennai_Hackathon_March_2012 has been filled out and we've location taken care of :)
[20:18:00] 	 hi yuvipanda! that's great!
[20:18:20] * henna  really dislikes the city of Chennai ;)
[20:18:25] 	 sumanah: have a look at it when you've the time :)
[20:18:28] 	 henna: haha, why?
[20:18:38] 	 I get beeped everytime it's mentioned on IRC
[20:18:38] 	 yuvipanda: look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Main_page which has improved since Jan 1
[20:18:41] 	 i'm here right now, tell me and I'll give it a kick before I leave :P
[20:18:41] 	 hahaha
[20:18:46] 	 hahaha
[20:18:50] 	 03(mod) Serbian (sr-ec and sr-el) should support GRAMMAR parser function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33546  +comment (10theranchcowboy)
[20:19:00] 	 henna, just for you I can call it Madras
[20:19:06] 	 i wonder if typing 'man' beeps sumanah 
[20:19:09] 	 no
[20:19:11] 	 nah
[20:19:16] 	 Whoa that's a lot of India events then
[20:19:38] 	 Mumbai in January, Pune in February, Chen-nai in March ..
[20:19:45] 	 RoanKattouw: the Madras event is a homegrown Indian production with AFAICT no WMF folks other than Yuvi and maybe Santhosh
[20:19:48] 	 New code comment: Johnduhart; I'll assume you mean 1.18.; 
[20:19:54] 	 RoanKattouw: chenn-ai is not 'official'
[20:19:54] 	 RoanKattouw: Mumbai was in nov, what are you talking about?
[20:19:59] 	 sumanah: it's the same as Madras?
[20:20:06] 	 Oh, sorry
[20:20:08] 	 henna: Chennai is the new name for Madras
[20:20:15] 	 RoanKattouw: also it's more 'Wikipedia' hackathon (APIs, Gadgets, stuff like that) rather than Mediawiki
[20:20:18] 	 Just like Bombay/Mumbai
[20:20:20] 	 ah
[20:20:21] 	 Rigt
[20:20:30] 	 And Calcutta/Kolkatta
[20:20:36] 	 not sure if i got the ts right
[20:20:56] 	 u did get it right yuvipanda
[20:21:06] 	 yay!
[20:21:07] 	 its Kolkata - single t
[20:21:11] 	 damn
[20:21:13] 	 then I didn't
[20:21:18] 	 lol
[20:22:23] 	 RoanKattouw, sync-apache gives me a lovely spam of error messages
[20:22:43] 	 Let me see
[20:22:46] 	 RoanKattouw: I look forward to a future where (a) there are as many events as people want, and I have no hand in starting most of them, (b) they are in geographic areas where other developers are and not just US/Europe, and (c) there are other volunteers who nurture and mentor incoming developers as a main activity
[20:23:33] 	 hmm, I think chennai one is a good start for those, no sumanah?
[20:23:39] 	 yuvipanda: yes!
[20:23:47] 	 sumanah: btw, I've asked ishwarya to apply for the pune hackathon.
[20:23:58] 	 yuvipanda: great!
[20:24:03] 	 wish I were going to be there.
[20:24:14] 	 sumanah: do you know who is going to be there?
[20:25:35] 	 yuvipanda: I think Alolita, Tomasz, and ... um, I know there are like 4-6 others
[20:26:23] 	 Is there a list, then?
[20:26:28] 	 Last I heard it was at least partially TBD
[20:26:50] 	 those are not mutually exclusive
[20:27:06] 	 True
[20:27:39] 	 RoanKattouw: so, contacted those professors for informational interviews yet?
[20:28:00] 	 I haven't no
[20:28:05] 	 sumanah: do edit if you've ideas for this kinda hackathon
[20:28:09] 	 Well other than Luca
[20:28:22] 	 yuvipanda: I am swamped till next week, so, not yet
[20:28:38] 	 sumanah: add this to the back of the queue :)
[20:28:41] 	 yuvipanda: I can toss https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Volunteer_coordination_and_outreach/Event_planning at you
[20:28:44] 	 and i'll ping you end of next week
[20:28:58] 	 ah, okay.
[20:29:23] 	 sumanah: either way, I'll keep you updated (on a fyi basis, not a 'here, can you help with this?' basis :))
[20:29:39] 	 yuvipanda: ok, sounds great!
[20:29:59] 	 03ialex *  10/trunk/phase3/ (docs/hooks.txt includes/Title.php): Per request of Aaron Schulz, follow-up r102187: added new 'TitleReadWhitelist' hook to allow extensions to bypass core (and other extensions) checks to allow an user to read the page
[20:30:17] 	 New code comment: IAlex; Done in r108175.; 
[20:31:22] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/extensions/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
[20:31:22] 	 Documentation
[20:31:22] 	 Remove unreachable return
[20:31:22] 	 Remove unused globals
[20:31:50] 	 03(mod) No bold or italics with limit=0 in query - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33535  (10contrafibularity)
[20:32:24] 	 yuvipanda: you should email mediawiki-l and wikitech-l right away IMO
[20:32:50] 	 sumanah: will do. 
[20:33:18] 	 03(NEW) wrong mime types uploaded on commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33549 major; MediaWiki: Uploading; (umherirrender_de.wp)
[20:36:40] 	 03(mod) Devanagari diacritics appear broken off in search results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33548  +comment (10Siddhartha.Ghai)
[20:37:11] 	 siebrand: hey, you going to FOSDEM?
[20:37:24] 	 Daniel_WMDE: are you going to FOSDEM?
[20:46:40] 	 yuvipanda: if you want to do a signup form like we've done for previous India hackathons, siebrand has the GDoc code and would share it with you
[20:47:00] 	 sumanah: please do! I've 'started' one but it isn't going anywhere :D
[20:47:22] 	 yuvipanda: but https://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Developer_Days shows another example of more loose "put your name on the wiki here" signup
[20:49:17] 	 yuvipanda: "This is a hackathon, and not a workshop." does that mean something specific to your intended audience? because it does not to me
[20:49:26] 	 sumanah: yes, it does.
[20:49:37] 	 ok, so, what does "workshop" mean to your intended audience?
[20:49:38] 	 RoanKattouw, did you get anywhere?
[20:49:41] 	 I am curious
[20:49:47] 	 sumanah: basically we are trying to not get people we'd have to teach PHP/JS/whatever to them
[20:49:54] 	 Reedy: Oh, sorry
[20:50:12] 	 yuvipanda, spend the day teaching them something really stupid
[20:50:13] 	 and then be lik
[20:50:14] 	 e
[20:50:14] 	 yuvipanda: ah, where I would say "tutorial" or "training" -- got it
[20:50:22] 	 This is going to be no use to you for MW...
[20:50:31] 	 sync-apache is broken
[20:50:33] 	 sumanah: the word 'workshop' is overloaded to the point of being useless here.
[20:50:39] 	 yuvipanda: yeah
[20:50:43] 	 That is, it's trying to do something that won't work
[20:50:49] 	 lol
[20:51:01] 	 Reedy: i've done exactly that about 2 times over the last few months.
[20:51:09] 	 I think it'll still have done what you needed it to do
[20:51:11] 	 spent 75% of the time teaching people PHP...
[20:51:22] 	 test.wikipedia.org/r/1 doesn't work
[20:51:23] 	 I'm sure humanity will eventually hate me for that
[20:51:42] 	 Reedy: ran the maint. script?
[20:51:45] 	 No
[20:51:49] 	 But I visited a page
[20:51:50] 	 Reedy: 1 won't exist until you view some page then
[20:51:51] 	 and it has that id
[20:51:51] 	 ah
[20:51:59] 	 as using the long address is fine
[20:52:01] 	 yuvipanda: I really like the "Past Hacks by ChennaiGeeks" section!
[20:52:14] 	 inspiring.
[20:52:19] 	 sumanah: :)
[20:52:23] 	 yuvipanda, doesn't ShortUrl need a way to change the displayed url? So people don't have to know foo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ShortUrl/1 -> f.w.o/r/1 ?
[20:52:36] 	 sanely, you just display the /r/1
[20:52:39] 	 Reedy: change the 'displayed' URL as in?
[20:52:42] 	 oh wait
[20:52:43] 	 yes
[20:52:48] 	 the one that appears under the title
[20:52:48] 	 it's  a param
[20:52:59] 	 $wgShortUrlPrefix
[20:53:00] * Reedy  facepalms
[20:53:02] 	 It's there
[20:53:05] 	 At the top of my other screen
[20:53:07] 	 :D
[20:53:07] 	 On my other machine
[20:53:19] 	 $wgShortUrlPrefix
[20:53:22] * Reedy  goes back to bed
[20:54:22] 	 yuvipanda, though, it's not documented to say what to go give it ie "//foo.wikipedia.org/r/$1" or what
[20:54:53] 	 sumanah: welcome back - how was vaca?
[20:55:08] 	 yuvipanda, with null, it's also not protocol relative
[20:55:11] 	 it's hardcoded to http
[20:55:21] 	 hi varnent! it was mostly good, although I did spend some of it ill. :(  I'm sorry that I misled you in terms of the participation grant stuff
[20:55:25] 	 i think it isn't protocol relative either way
[20:55:33] 	 People are gonna bitch :D
[20:55:43] 	 sumanah: oh - no worries :)  not misled at all  :)
[20:55:51] 	 Dear ShortUrl, YUNOPROTOCOLRELATIVE!?
[20:55:57] 	 varnent: It looks like you're not eligible, since this is a Wikimedia event
[20:56:06] 	 and the grants are for WM participants to go to non-WM events
[20:56:07] 	 sumanah: wasn't your fault - they changed all that after we spoke
[20:56:21] 	 no, varnent, I think it was always the case and I just misunderstood
[20:56:25] 	 and then they clarified
[20:56:47] 	 sumanah: gotcha - they haven't officially said no (unless you heard otherwise) - either way the Creating Change grant still sounds promising
[20:56:59] 	 cool!
[20:57:13] 	 well, I put 2 & 2 together basically
[20:57:50] 	 sumanah: it's updated a bit following some question in the talk page - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Varnent/CreatingChange2012
[20:58:46] 	 sumanah: does seem like a grant for smaller WMF events like hackathon has merit - but I can see how they want that done via chapters - which makes some sense
[20:58:53] 	 Reedy: imma fix it.
[20:59:01] 	 Ty
[21:01:17] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Yes, I noted that to you on IRC.; 
[21:03:30] 	 Hmm, that's interesting
[21:03:31] 	 alolita: aren't we supposed to have a Pune Hackathon sync-up now?
[21:03:49] 	 alolita: I thought I saw it in my calendar an hour ago, but now it's gone (?)
[21:03:49] 	 Purging URL http://squidiscool/w/phase3/img_auth.php/thumb/0/00/Handsprecan.jpg/%2Fvar%2Fwww%2Fw%2Fphase3%2Fimages%2Fthumb%2F0%2F00%2FHandsprecan.jpg%2F180px-Handsprecan.jpg via HTCP
[21:03:54] 	 that sounds wrongish
[21:04:03] 	 ugh. Wls.
[21:06:04] 	 Reedy: what do you think about a message on VPT about upcoming deployment
[21:06:36] 	 Who what where?
[21:07:03] 	 I think people should know we are preparing deployment labs site to test mediawiki there, so that they could test scripts etc there
[21:07:26] 	 Probably better to mediawiki-l/wikitech-l
[21:07:29] 	 I am talking about the en, and simple wiki clones we are making on labs
[21:07:36] 	 some people only read VPT
[21:07:40] 	 on english wikipedia
[21:07:51] 	 last deployment lot of people complained that tools are broken etc
[21:08:02] 	 this would give them a possibility to test it
[21:08:02] 	 I think hexmode plans on that
[21:08:06] 	 petan: you can do it
[21:08:13] 	 no reason to wait for hexmode 
[21:08:14] 	 But he probably doesn't want to post to VPT until that wiki is up
[21:08:29] 	 so is there a way for an extension to call the URL of whatever image first - or primarily appears - in that article?
[21:08:30] 	 that wiki is partially up, I will try to make it more cure though heh
[21:08:31] 	 well, you can just give the URL and say it will be up Monday
[21:08:35] 	 * cute
[21:08:46] 	 True
[21:08:50] 	 trying to figure out a way to incorporate use of Pinterest after some requests
[21:08:52] 	 ok
[21:09:18] 	 varnent: No, you can't really figure out which image is the first-occurring one easily
[21:09:40] 	 RoanKattouw: what would be the command for just any image on the article then?  :)
[21:10:17] 	 New code comment: Bawolff; Seems to be sending incorrect HTCP purge packets (Not sure if this revision is at fault, but I figur; 
[21:10:17] 	 api.php can give you a list of images, or you can query it from the DB if you're in an extension
[21:11:00] 	 kk - think I might have some code doing it from the db - was hoping there might be a lazy man's solution  :)
[21:11:00] 	 bawolff: Thanks for catching that, that kind of stuff is a bitch when it happens on the cluster (it did with the prot rel URL stuff)
[21:11:17] 	 api.php works if you're in JS or somethnig
[21:11:43] 	 I just happened to stumble upon it well looking in my debug log for something totally unrelated
[21:12:53] * varnent  heading to API documentation to see more about images
[21:13:08] 	 btw - is it just me or is licensing area acting oddly on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Upload
[21:13:47] 	 New code comment: Bawolff; Note the [ and ] didn't appear in the debug log, that's just code review being stupid...; 
[21:14:36] 	 varnent: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=San_Francisco&prop=images&format=jsonfm
[21:19:11] 	 RoanKattouw: ty - that's helpful  :)
[21:20:44] 	 Is it ok to rename the 'diff' css class to e.g. 'mw-diff'? It would fix a bug because it collides with class="diff" added by SyntaxHighlight Geshi
[21:28:39] 	 robla: got a moment?
[21:29:13] 	 brion: remind me, what dates in April/May are bad for you for the WMDE hackathon?
[21:29:43] 	 same goes for everyone here, actually -- Reedy, RoanKattouw, ^demon, etc.
[21:29:54] 	 Let me see
[21:30:00] 	 I'm poking WMDE for dates and may as well tell them "these dates seem somewhat worse"
[21:30:04] 	 I've got nothing planned around there
[21:30:04] <^demon>	 I won't be going anywhere this spring.
[21:30:15] 	 Hell, I've little planned all year
[21:30:17] 	 Well I was planning to visit home Mar 22 - Apr 2ish
[21:30:21] 	 RoanKattouw: if you remember dates that, say, Trevor has an anniversary or a child-birthday on, that would be nice to remember
[21:30:34] 	 Neither of the girls has their birthday in April
[21:31:04] 	 We only just averted a conflict with his oldest daughter's birthday (and Daniel Kinzler's daughter's birthday like one day later) last year
[21:31:08] 	 And that was in late May IIRC
[21:31:10] 	 dates of weddings, anniversaries, children's birthdays, childbirths (0th birthdays), etc. tend to take precedence
[21:31:12] 	 sumanah: supposed to be talking to ^demon right about now.  No big constaints on my dates if that's what you wanted to ask me about.  I can plan around this year (daughter's b-day is middle of the week)
[21:31:17] 	 May 22
[21:31:24] 	 Oh, right, and Rob's kid too
[21:31:39] 	 03(mod) Application should default to user/phone locale - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32005  +comment (10philinje)
[21:31:41] 	 thanks robla, I was checking in with you as a way to meta-check-in with the rest of the team
[21:31:52] 	 I remembered you had reeled off some dates-to-stay-away-from but couldn't recall where!
[21:31:58] 	 03raymond *  10/trunk/ (73 files in 45 dirs): Localisation updates for core and extension messages from translatewiki.net
[21:32:00] 	 hi, has anyone converted an existing postgresql mediawiki to mysql using this? http://www.winterrodeln.org/trac/wiki/MediaWikiPostgresqlToMysql
[21:32:09] 	 sumanah: Anyway, the weekend of April 1st is bad for me, as is the weekend before. I'm planning to be visiting home then
[21:32:39] 	 03(mod) After the language is changed the page content does not change - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32907  (10Phil Chang)
[21:32:41] 	 03(mod) Application should default to user/phone locale - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32005  (10Phil Chang)
[21:33:19] 	 brion's anniversary is sometime in May, no?
[21:34:34] 	 aha https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Berlin_Hackathon_2011/date_poll
[21:35:12] 	 Yes, also around that time
[21:35:15] 	 Yeah, the date poll
[21:35:18] 	 that'll be very instructive
[21:35:41] * sumanah  sends nag
[21:36:25] 	 avtar: i personally haven't :)  never heard of it of course
[21:36:35] 	 avtar, we'd usually suggest using mediawiki itself to export/import
[21:37:03] 	 Reedy: i'm looking at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki#XML_dump 
[21:37:07] 	 avtar: that page was last modified 3 years ago, which generally signals danger
[21:37:15] 	 avtar: I mean the winterrodeln page
[21:37:25] 	 and those docs state that user accounts aren't included in the xml dump
[21:37:31] 	 indeed
[21:37:40] 	 which are definitely required ;)
[21:38:12] 	 sumanah: yes, that's my concern 
[21:38:59] 	 How many users have you got?
[21:39:21] 	 20
[21:39:34] 	 for this particular wiki
[21:39:52] 	 Know any programming languages?
[21:39:57] 	 but more on others, which i'll probably also move over to mysql when time permits
[21:40:07] 	 Reedy: ruby
[21:40:32] * varnent  doing a MW install - laughing (as always) at  "Ask me more questions."   -or-   "I'm bored already, just install the wiki."
[21:40:36] 	 03yaron *  10/trunk/extensions/DataTransfer/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Removed DTUtils::loadMessages() method - no longer needed, since versions of MediaWiki less than 1.16 are no longer being supported
[21:40:46] 	 shouldn't be much code to write a script to pull users from one, and push to the other
[21:40:57] 	 hello guys!
[21:41:50] 	 so user accounts are all that's missing from the xml dump?
[21:42:01] 	 no
[21:42:11] 	 hi the19 
[21:42:15] 	 nm
[21:42:20] 	 pages/revisions are about the only thing in the dumps
[21:44:16] 	 03(mod) WebRequest input handling cleanup: magic_quotes removal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/11558  (10Chad H.)
[21:47:24] 	 does a sample database with like a dozen templates and hundred sample articles exist for sandbox/testing wiki installations?
[21:48:08] 	 varnent: I think we use simple english wikipedia
[21:48:12] 	 which is far bigger
[21:48:30] 	 hmm….
[21:48:57] * varnent  one more task…  :)
[21:49:58] 	 Most people usually export a few big articles and their dependant templates
[21:50:14] 	 Reedy: that's a good idea...
[21:50:32] 	 but a readymade test db would be nice
[21:51:28] 	 I'll probably throw one together for use that avoids copyright problems - since most test wikis don't bother with licensing permissions - now I just have to hope nobody copyrights lorem ipsum
[21:53:04] 	 sumanah: btw - I tweaked the {{hubs}} template so it can now indicate uses on pages for multiple audiences - hoping to place them on the upper-right of all the major Manual pages to help indicate quickly what pages are for which audience (again - stealing from cheat-sheets on improving documentation)
[21:53:33] 	 interesting, varnent, I think you should send a note to Guillaume giving him a heads-up as well
[21:53:42] 	 will do
[21:54:09] 	 I fixed the template on a number of other languages as well - some had broken copies
[21:57:42] 	 sumanah, do you remember where that "list of tests" was you did for 1.18?
[21:57:56] 	 Someone is essentially asking for something like that for the labs 1.19
[21:57:59] 	 Reedy: just a moment
[21:58:12] * varnent  has a 1.19 install can be added to that list
[21:58:20] * sumanah  looks at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Testing_portal
[21:58:41] 	 Reedy: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:MediaWiki_test_plans will help you
[21:58:42] 	 varnent, TW is quite a useful early warning system ;)
[21:58:57] 	 Great, thanks
[21:59:42] 	 Reedy: agreed - I've got a half dozen test wikis running - they're great - I enjoy breaking them  :)
[21:59:57] 	 Reedy: I am very much hoping we have a QA lead to actually put these things into a proper test case sys someday. in the meantime, if you want more test cases, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Olena may write more if you ask her to
[22:00:43] 	 03laner *  10/trunk/extensions/LdapAuthentication/LdapAuthentication.php: ServerNames is a space delimited string, not an array.
[22:00:53] 	 Reedy: I also use our mega test wiki (lambda.wikiqueer.org) to have fun with some of our advisors - great April Fools platform  :)
[22:06:00] 	 anyone else having server issues with enWP?
[22:07:07] 	 I am hearing issues in another channel yes
[22:21:08] 	 sumanah: are you going to be able to be online for the MediaWiki workshop?  if so - I'll add you to the list  :)
[22:21:35] 	 hi varnent -- what workshop are you talking about?
[22:21:50] 	 did you email wikitech-l about it already? I am still catching up on email
[22:23:26] 	 are you talking about the "make your extension work with 1.19" IRC discussion/tutorial?
[22:24:46] 	 sumanah: yes - email going out today
[22:24:51] 	 cool
[22:24:57] * varnent  kept getting delayed by IRL distractions
[22:24:58] 	 once I remember the date, I will know whether I can attend
[22:43:54] 	 It's quiet
[22:45:08] 	 Could fix that...
[22:45:29] 	 sumanah: http://ucosp.ca/winter-2012-projects/ <- your e-mail content already listed there.
[22:45:54] 	 thanks Amgine 
[22:47:00] 	 Amgine: not what I'd have chosen, but good enough for now
[22:47:32] 	  found by accident, whilst looking for other stuff.
[22:48:06] 	 Amgine: did you see the huge email I sent with a zillion links?
[22:48:17] 	 Amgine: from http://socialcoding4good.org/organizations/wikimedia
[22:48:32] 	 awjr: hey, how's it going? got a moment?
[22:48:35] 	 heh yah, haven't researched that enough yet.
[22:49:06] 	 Amgine: I'm thinking I would like to get 1 experienced MediaWiki developer to partner with you on mentoring these UCOSP kids
[22:49:36] 	  You get the formaldehyde, we'll meet at the airport...
[22:51:30] 	 hexmode: There's no API stuff in the code: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/108134
[22:52:23] 	 johnduhart: sorry ... was under the impression that featuredfeeds was API centric
[22:52:52] 	 hexmode: It is, just that revision has nothing to do with the API. That's all ;)
[22:53:12] 	 well, I was half right :P
[22:54:42] 	 hrm...
[23:01:30] 	 03hashar *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/media/XCF.php: XCF: remove var_dump() statement
[23:02:32] 	 New code comment: Hashar; - var_dump( $header ); \ With r108181. Thanks Brion!; 
[23:03:04] 	 yuvipanda: hey, got a moment?
[23:03:24] 	 sumanah: sure
[23:03:29] 	 Amgine: ^^^
[23:03:44] 	 Join #Pleonasm, yuvipanda?
[23:12:02] 	 hashar: what's tag "core" for ?
[23:12:16] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_review_tags
[23:12:27] 	 please add, I assume since you use it you know what it's for
[23:12:42] 	 hexmode: Do you know for "important" ? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Code_review_tags
[23:12:47] 	 there is no "core" tag
[23:12:59] 	 hashar: you added it to r108181>
[23:13:00] 	 err sorry, I have misread that 
[23:13:09] 	 "core"  !== "cabal"  huhu
[23:13:15] 	 well 
[23:13:29] 	 I didn't tag most of the "core" things
[23:13:31] 	 rob started tagging remaining revisions so they get grouped by area
[23:13:39] 	 something like "core" "features" "frontend"
[23:13:44] 	 but I did reuse it
[23:14:14] 	 I guess the idea is to form teams that will finish up the code review focusing on each area
[23:15:18] 	 03(NEW) Chart row redirect - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33550 normal; MediaWiki: Redirects; (reza.energy)
[23:15:27] 	 that'd be one way, yeah.
[23:17:46] 	 now heading bed, have fun
[23:18:00] 	 Krinkle: will test your testswarmfetcher changes tomorrow hopefull
[23:18:01] 	 y
[23:18:10] 	 probably going to deploy it next monday
[23:18:22] 	 cya
[23:18:27] 	 hashar: cool
[23:18:32] 	 very nice
[23:19:04] 	 03halfak *  10/trunk/tools/wsor/message_templates/ (9 files in 4 dirs): Bug fixes and work around for wikipedia api. Also added a little bit of R
[23:26:16] 	 03bawolff *  10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 4 dirs):
[23:26:16] 	 Make sure that if we fail to read the App13 (iptc) block of a JPG file, that
[23:26:16] 	 that doesn't block other metadata from being read. Also makes sure if more then
[23:26:16] 	 one app13 block is in the file, they are all read, not just the last one that
[23:26:16] 	 appears in the file (This required some changes to tests since before the
[23:26:16] 	 intermediate value was just one value, now its an array of all such blocks)
[23:30:07] 	 03(FIXED) Navigating pages on Android 4 (ICS) tries to load about:blank in external browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33218  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[23:30:22] 	 03(FIXED) Saved pages open without markup fixes, in full window (breaking app) in Android 4.0 (ICS) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33219  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[23:30:32] 	 03(mod) Android app web view is very tiny on Android 4 (Ice Cream Sandwich) emulator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31835  +comment (10brion)
[23:30:49] 	 03(FIXED) Android app web view is very tiny on Android 4 (Ice Cream Sandwich) emulator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31835  (10Brion Vibber)
[23:31:05] 	 03(FIXED) App not usable on Galaxy Nexus (Android 4.0 ICS with xhdpi display) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33209  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[23:31:57] 	 03(FIXED) Search language is not in current language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33289  +comment (10Yuvi Panda)
[23:31:58] 	 03(NEW) ShortUrl isn't protocol relative - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33551 normal; MediaWiki extensions: [other]; (sam)
[23:32:53] 	 03(mod) Text box showing over search bar looks horrible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33202  +comment (10yuvipanda)
[23:33:03] 	 03catrope *  10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[23:33:03] 	 ResourceLoader: Add an experimental option to move the main module loading queue
[23:33:03] 	 (the bottom queue) from the bottom of the  up into the  , while
[23:33:03] 	 still being loaded asynchronously. This makes them load earlier, which should
[23:33:03] 	 make the page load faster. This is the product of a long discussion on bug 27488
[23:33:03] 	 * Added a "blocking" state to mw.loader . When loading scripts while the
[23:33:04] 	 document is not ready, the loader will use document.write() if blocking is true,
[23:33:20] 	 03(mod) ShortUrl isn't protocol relative - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33551  +comment (10sam)
[23:34:26] 	 Krinkle: ---^^
[23:34:39] 	 RoanKattouw: ok, thx
[23:35:22] 	 03(mod) Implement 'top' position option for ResourceLoader modules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27488  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[23:35:31] 	 It's disabled by default, you need $wgResourceLoaderExperimentalAsyncLoading = true; to enable it
[23:35:44] 	 03aaron *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/file/File.php: Partially reverted r108111: we can't assume subclasses put thumbnails in the...thumbnails zone. They might override the thumbnail path functions.
[23:36:00] 	 But I think I've got all bases covered, and nothing broke on my local wiki
[23:36:20] 	 Hmm, and I don't think scripts should notice
[23:36:26] 	 So this shouldn't be able to break anything, really
[23:36:30] 	 But I wanted to play it safe
[23:41:02] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; Are you talking about the LocalFile purgeThumbList() functions, maybe you can var_dump() the list of; 
[23:41:47] 	 New code comment: Catrope; This is broken on Opera if the experimental setting is enabled: the display of the ''entire page'' i; 
[23:44:50] 	 Hello. I am looking for a mediawiki-extension that allows user-comments on pages. So far I found ArticleComment (too basic) and Discussion (possibly not working with current version?). Does anybody know other alternatives?
[23:46:50] 	 Talk pages?
[23:46:55] 	 I would recommend [[mw:Extension:Comments]], except that it currently doesn't work with MW 1.18 (I'm working on a fix, we could say that the fix is 95% complete :)
[23:51:05] 	 ashley: If it doesn't work with 1.18 yet, it's of no use for me, as that is the version I have here.
[23:52:03] * AaronSchulz  made an infinite loop by mistake
[23:52:07] * AaronSchulz  just got noobed
[23:53:12] 	 Reedy: Kind of talk-pages, but more like comments on a regular blog. I just found "Wordpress Comments", I'll see if that is still usable.
[23:53:27] 	 LiquidThreads... ?
[23:53:39] 	 of course that has its own issues
[23:53:49] 	 like?
[23:54:27] 	 !e LiquidThreads
[23:54:28] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LiquidThreads
[23:54:47] 	 Mrokii: As an example, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk
[23:55:35] 	 (or another example: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Comments:Wikinews_holds_Reform_Party_USA_presidential_candidates_forum )
[23:55:39] 	 The thing that annoys me about LQT is how it takes over the tabs
[23:57:17] 	 I don't like some of the interface design of it (as you may notice the wikinews link has some minor differences in css than the default. That's me not liking how it looks by default)
[23:59:49] 	 bawolff: But all in all LQT doesn't look so bad.