[00:00:00] Concurrency is freaking hard [00:00:23] my first thought at 'cooperative locking' is "oh no it's going ot miss something and leave millions of stale locks in the table" [00:00:31] * AaronSchulz remembers that time spent on LockManager [00:02:00] brion: well it does delete old ones ;) [00:02:32] brion, raindrift1: Hmm come to think of it, I guess it could use an if ( once in every 10 times ) { $this->expire(); } for each operation or something [00:02:39] Like SqlBagOStuff does [00:03:34] New code comment: Brion VIBBER; Schema update (clean table), new api methods, is being coded for a particular extension but is a gen; [00:03:37] reedy, i googled that up, too, but i don't quite understand whether it is something that i can or should do. it points to a fix in the code. i would think that this is something that i should fix in my installation. [00:04:29] PhpUnit packaged for ubuntu is broken [00:05:30] yeah. the plan is to run expire() occasionally in other places that are doing database access anyway. i'll make a note to do that so i don't forget. [00:05:43] i could also set up a maintenance job for it. [00:05:59] 03gwicke * 10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/parser/ (3 files): [00:05:59] More work towards template expansion. [00:05:59] * Created AttributeTokenTransformManager for generic attribute conversion, and [00:05:59] removed { title, template argument {key, value} } expansion from [00:05:59] TemplateHandler. [00:05:59] * Added caching for attribute and input sub-pipelines. Especially attribute [00:06:00] pipelines would otherwise be recreated for each attribute value and key. [00:08:37] Project MediaWiki-phpunit build #5471: STILL FAILING in 2 min 28 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-phpunit/5471/ [00:09:35] New code comment: Catrope; Alright. Let's give Ian some time to stabilize it, then move it into the MoodBar extension tomorrow.; [00:10:44] raindrift1: BTW, we've kind of decided behind your back that this concurrency code will be moved to extensions/MoodBar for the time being. So take your time working out the kinds in phase3 first, then move it to the extension. If you don't get to it today, I will move it tomorrow UNLESS you send me an e-mail saying you have a terribly tainted working copy or something [00:10:53] raindrift1: it's also better IMO to have a $wgConcurrencyConfig var instead of many separate ones [00:13:05] brion: what do you think of r102624? [00:13:14] !r 102624 [00:13:15] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/102624 [00:13:30] Project MediaWiki-phpunit build #5472: STILL FAILING in 2 min 21 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-phpunit/5472/ [00:14:21] seems to lack direction/use [00:14:22] AaronSchulz: as you may have guessed, the lack of reply from Chad is why I haven't preponed our meeting time, so, talk to you in 30 min? [00:14:32] 03(FIXED) SwiftMedia's rewrite doesn't properly collapse multiple slashes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32864 +comment (10Ben Hartshorne) [00:17:21] 03rmoen * 10/trunk/phase3/resources/ (Resources.php jquery/jquery.concurrency.js): add js resource for concurrency api, check method for resource checkin & checkout [00:17:29] RoanKattouw: sounds good. however, we'll be using the same code in another extension (PageTriage) shortly. It seems silly to duplicate it in both. [00:17:48] Yeah, I know, I'd really rather it be in trunk [00:18:00] We'll hack around it for a while to keep the 1.19 folks happy [00:18:15] Heck, we could even put it in its own extension [00:18:17] How about that [00:18:24] extensions/Concurrency or whatever [00:18:31] Then pull that into trunk after 1.19 is cut [00:19:07] Hey Roan. [00:19:16] That seems like a kludge, but if that's what makes 1.19 get out on time, sure. This code needs to be working before I go home today, so I'm not sure how it's going to delay anything. [00:19:35] New code comment: Catrope; 
 \ + array( 'ORDER BY' => 'mbf_id', 'GROUP BY' => 'mbf_id', "LIMIT $batchSize" ) \
\ You ; [00:20:16] raindrift1: I'm kind of torn over the issue, but if the big names in platform want it out, it's out [00:20:18] Hey Joan [00:20:27] sure. [00:20:29] Some might think our names rhyme. [00:20:35] How wrong they'd be! [00:20:59] AaronSchulz: thanks for the review. [00:21:19] New code comment: Aaron Schulz; The "(?P[^/]*?)/(?P[^/]*?)" still should be changed to "(?P[^/]+?)/(?P[^/]+?; [00:21:47] 03(mod) Inputbox Always includes Main namespace - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14586 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [00:22:11] 03rmoen * 10/trunk/extensions/MoodBar/ (2 files in 2 dirs): add concurrency call to feedback dashboard, revise loadConcurrencyToolTip method. follow up r108271 [00:22:34] New code comment: Aaron Schulz; I meant "should not be optional"...gah; [00:22:51] Joan: How is your name pronounced then? [00:23:14] I think my name rhymes with yours when pronounced in the approved butchering, but not when pronounced 'properly' [00:23:16] Row-an [00:23:24] Joe-uhn [00:23:37] Project MediaWiki-phpunit build #5473: STILL FAILING in 2 min 28 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-phpunit/5473/ [00:23:49] "approved butchering," heh. [00:23:53] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/extensions/ (24 files in 12 dirs): [00:23:53] Don't include files with $magicWords, but use $wgExtensionMessagesFiles. [00:23:53] Inspired by r108558. [00:24:09] RoanKattouw: When do you move to SF? [00:24:12] The approved butchering is one syllable that rhymes with the one-syllable version of Joan, basically [00:24:22] Joan: Early February, if the paperwork goes as expected [00:24:27] Nice. :-) [00:24:35] But if you'd asked me the same thing a few months back I'd said early Dec or early Jan [00:24:40] So, you know, we'll see how that goes [00:24:51] * RoanKattouw glares at bureaucracy being slow [00:26:09] * AaronSchulz thinks of one of his favorite SC4 buildings [00:27:20] New code comment: Catrope; 
 \ + $reason = wfMessage( 'moodbar-log-reason' )->params( $params['type'], $params['comment'] )-; 
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[00:29:26] 	 03bsitu *  10/trunk/extensions/MoodBar/updateMoodBarFeedback.php: followup to -r108561 - code consistency
[00:30:11] 	 03rmoen *  10/trunk/extensions/MoodBar/ApiMoodBar.php: replaced escape() with text() as LogPage->addEntry handles escape. follow up r108563
[00:30:25] 	 03(NEW) CentralNotice extension should have a calendar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33650 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralNotice; (b)
[00:31:00] 	 maplebed: I'll pastebin a patch soon
[00:31:35] 	 03(mod) CentralNotice extension should have a calendar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33650  normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Reedy)
[00:31:56] * Joan  marks Reedy as an enhancement.
[00:32:13] 	 still can't get used to that nick
[00:32:38] 	 hexmode: Eat your vegetables. Sit up straight.
[00:32:41] 	 &c.
[00:32:54] * hexmode  hangs head
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[00:33:46] 	 RoanKattouw: what of r102624?
[00:34:45] 	 That displayname thing?
[00:37:51] 	 Why is it marked imoprtant?
[00:38:08] * Joan  eyes https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/tag/important
[00:38:42] 	 Probably things that are important to CR rather than necessarily important to have?
[00:38:51] 	 RobLa or hexmode would know I guess
[00:39:01] 	 03siebrand *  10/trunk/extensions/ (11 files in 5 dirs): Remove use of deprecated LanguageGetMagic hook.
[00:39:16] 	 raindrift1: I'm going to sleep now, it's 1:40am. I'll check back on the state of the concurrency stuff in the morning
[00:40:02] 	 RoanKattouw:  sounds good.  thanks for your help, and have a good flight.  :)
[00:40:26] * robla  looks up from his paper sorting
[00:41:06] 	 ah....actually, I think AaronSchulz applied most of the "important" tags
[00:41:40] 	 "important" as in "important to review or revert".  he was hoping we'd get those reviews out of the way
[00:42:20] 	 Ah.
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[00:44:56] 	 03rmoen *  10/trunk/extensions/MoodBar/modules/ext.moodBar.dashboard/ext.moodBar.dashboard.js: find and remove item concurrecny tooltip when closing feedback response form
[00:44:57] 	 03(mod) UploadWizard doesn't highlight errors in "more info" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32408  +comment (10Erik Moeller)
[00:45:45] 	 ^demon|away: I'm guessing AaronSchulz & I should do the commit access meeting without you.  AaronSchulz, I'm in the conf call.
[00:46:31] 	 03ben *  10/trunk/extensions/SwiftMedia/wmf/rewrite.py: fixes comment from r108569
[00:47:15] 	 03ben *  10/trunk/extensions/SwiftMedia/wmf/rewrite.py: fixes comment from r108569
[00:47:38] 	 03(mod) UploadWizard doesn't highlight errors in "more info" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32408  +comment (10erik)
[00:47:49] 	 New code comment: Robmoen; Follow up is marked ok. Resolved ?; 
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[00:53:04] 	 New code comment: Catrope; Yeah, sorry, missed this one.; 
[00:53:12] 	 03demon *  10/trunk/phase3/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Revert r102624, r104262 (user display name stuff). Per CR there isn't consensus on this yet.
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[01:03:55] 	 03preilly *  10/trunk/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess/ZeroRatedMobileAccess.body.php: method not in production yet
[01:04:31] 	 Hey got a question
[01:04:41] 	 Is there a magic word for categories
[01:05:01] 	 What I am after, is if a category is on a certain page
[01:05:04] 	 03preilly *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess/ZeroRatedMobileAccess.body.php: 1.18wmf1: MFT r108582
[01:05:05] 	 Text is added
[01:06:40] 	 !e PageInCat | Steven_Zhang
[01:06:40] 	 Steven_Zhang: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PageInCat
[01:07:40] 	 03(mod) SwiftMedia URL rewrites and container names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33286  +comment (10Ben Hartshorne)
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[01:08:45] 	 Hm
[01:08:50] 	 So if I have 4 categories
[01:09:01] 	 Could I set it up with 4 ifs?
[01:09:40] 	 AaronSchulz: oh, and those patches you just reviewed for the commit access queue -- if any of them are fine to commit as-is, maybe you could mark them in some way so that we know to commit them once the code slush is over?
[01:09:57] 	 and so no one wastes their time duplicating your effort.
[01:10:04] * AaronSchulz  fails at toolserver login
[01:10:27] * Steven_Zhang  pokes p858snake|l 
[01:10:42] 	 03raindrift *  10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
[01:10:42] 	 Fixed concurrency issues related to mysql default locking mode, per Roan's comments. Fixed other little bugs Roan pointed out also.
[01:10:42] 	 followup to r108559
[01:10:46] 	 no idea, I don't actually use it
[01:12:25] 	 Aw
[01:12:38] 	 03(mod) SwiftMedia URL rewrites and container names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33286  +comment (10aschulz4587)
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[01:14:49] 	 03(NEW) Add / update interwiki map on labsconsole - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33651 normal; Wikimedia Labs: Setup; (danny.b)
[01:22:31] 	 03rmoen *  10/trunk/extensions/MoodBar/ (2 files in 2 dirs): float left secondary filter checkboxes, add clearfix elements after labels
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[01:27:05] 	 03(mod) CentralNotice extension should have a calendar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33650  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[01:27:34] 	 New code comment: Reedy; http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-phpunit/5482/console \ 
 \ [exec] 1) Concurr; 
[01:28:00] 	 03raindrift *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/ConcurrencyCheck.php:
[01:28:00] 	 sqlite doesn't actually support read locks. added a workaround until i can do the correct implementation.
[01:28:00] 	 followup to r108559
[01:29:04] 	 K4-713: what do you think you'll be working on once the fundraising team slows down a bit?
[01:29:04] 	 03(mod) Add / update interwiki map on labsconsole - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33651  normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Reedy)
[01:29:33] 	 sumanah: Actually, more fundraising. 
[01:30:04] 	 K4-713: Like, foreverrrrrr?
[01:31:33] 	 sumanah: Seems that way! We're having a big meeting next Thursday to get a roadmap for 2012. 
[01:31:36] 	 K4-713: do you know anything about Jeremy's & Ryan's & Arthur's fate?
[01:31:46] 	 sumanah: Yes, I do. 
[01:32:01] 	 Arthur and Kaldari are being released back into the wild. 
[01:32:04] 	 all of you? fulltime? fundraising? even for the first half of 2012?   Gee, I was hoping....
[01:32:08] 	 Oh that's good!
[01:32:10] 	 (for me)
[01:32:43] 	 Jeremy and I are sticking around as FR-tech, and I'm the new Arthur. 
[01:32:52] 	 I wonder whether Jeff Green will have more time as well....
[01:32:58] * K4-713  has already ordered a mustache
[01:33:04] 	 K4-713: congrats! do you have a somewhat more official title?
[01:33:14] 	 Not... quite. 
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[01:34:24] 	 03(mod) Add / update interwiki map on labsconsole - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33651  +comment (10danny.b)
[01:34:25] 	 btw K4-713 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_Little_Bug is getting a bit low and could use some easy fundraising-related bugs, if you have any lying around.
[01:34:26] 	 But, I understand that'll happen for reals sometime after Feb 1. 
[01:34:49] 	 sumanah: Oooh, I'll keep that in mind. Awesome. And, thank you. 
[01:35:20] 	 sumanah: As long as we're both here, do you have any idea who I have to poke to get edit rights on wikitech? Because this is silly. 
[01:35:41] 	 K4-713: Sure!  A position on that list really does lead to more patches.  I just want them to then get *reviewed* in a timely fashion, which I think FR does tend to do.
[01:35:51] 	 K4-713: what's the username? lemme see whether I can do it.
[01:36:08] 	 sumanah: It should just be "Khorn" over there. 
[01:36:11] 	 03preilly *  10/trunk/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess/ZeroRatedMobileAccess.body.php: only display banner if carrier is found
[01:36:14] 	 And thanks. :)
[01:37:26] 	 K4-713: My account on wikitech.wikimedia.org does not have permission to assign user rights.  Ryan_Lane, maplebed, could perhaps one of you give Khorn here edit rights there?
[01:37:57] * K4-713  grins helpfully
[01:37:58] 	 03preilly *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess/ZeroRatedMobileAccess.body.php: 1.18wmf1: MFT r108586
[01:38:34] 	 done
[01:38:54] 	 anything else you need in the way of ops-y-ness K4-713 ?
[01:39:10] 	 I realise it takes years to learn it, but where would anyone suggest to start learning PHP?
[01:39:17] 	 sumanah: Not that I am currently aware of. :)
[01:39:37] 	 MakeShift: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker#The_PHP_programming_language has some pointers
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[01:43:34] 	 14(INVALID) Liquid Thread activation on meta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33635  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[01:44:34] 	 03preilly *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess/ZeroRatedMobileAccess.body.php: propset svn:keywords "Id"
[01:51:07] 	 03preilly *  10/trunk/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess/ZeroRatedMobileAccess.body.php: remove unneeded comment
[01:51:54] 	 03(mod) Enable Language Converter for Portuguese in a testwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26121   +i18n; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
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[02:02:33] 	 03raindrift *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/ConcurrencyCheck.php:
[02:02:34] 	 sqlite needs its timestamps quoted
[02:02:34] 	 fixed some memcache timestamp bugs
[02:02:34] 	 followup to r108559
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[02:04:57] 	 03bachsau *  10/USERINFO/bachsau: Added USERINFO for bachsau
[02:05:42] 	 03preilly *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess/ (6 files in 2 dirs): 1.18wmf1: MFT r106907 - r108532
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[02:09:57] 	 03yaron *  10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/languages/SF_Magic.php: Follow-up to r108558 - added 'autoedit' to set of magic words
[02:12:48] 	 New code comment: Yaron Koren; Thanks - I believe this is fixed in SVN now.; 
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[02:14:26] 	 03oren *  10/trunk/lucene-search-2/src/org/wikimedia/lsearch/util/PHPParser.java: added comment on improving PHP source parsing
[02:20:02] 	 New code comment: Yaron Koren; That's a good idea - at some point I need to go into my code and replace all the Xml calls with Html; 
[02:24:28] 	 03ben *  10/trunk/extensions/SwiftMedia/wmf/ (proxy-server.conf.example rewrite.py):
[02:24:28] 	 added feature to shard on some, all, or no containers
[02:24:28] 	 fixed bug 32864 - duplicate slashes in the URL should be ignored
[02:24:28] 	 fixed bug 33620 - AUTH prohibited in the media URL
[02:24:28] 	 increased the specificity of the regex to match for the URL
[02:25:22] 	 wow, FR reorg and a mustache transplant ;)
[02:27:48] 	 anybody knows about an issue where old MediaWiki:Common.js is still loaded after an edit, even after clearing browser cache?
[02:27:54] 	 MW 1.17
[02:34:38] 	 Danwe: do you have any other caches? e.g. squid
[02:35:03] 	 Danwe: ...
[02:35:15] 	 welcome back
[02:35:49] 	 Danwe: (and can you link to your instance?)
[02:44:43] 	 jeremyb: try http://test.rpg-dev.org/wiki/Kategorie:TestCat1
[02:46:25] 	 jeremyb: but it seems like an Opera issue, works in FF when clearing cache :-/
[02:47:24] 	 okey then... idk
[02:47:48] 	 Danwe: resource loader might be a black art...
[02:48:21] 	 yeah, might be :-/ Never had that issue with Opera in the past. I'll try 1.18 later
[02:48:39] 	 03raindrift *  10/trunk/phase3/tests/phpunit/includes/ (ConcurrencyCheckTest.php api/ApiConcurrencyTest.php):
[02:48:39] 	 Commenting these tests out so that CI can run, since I need to leave and nobody uses this code yet.
[02:48:39] 	 These fail only on sqlite, and only when run with the entire suite (they're fine when run individually).
[02:48:39] 	 Skipping ApiBlockTest allows ApiConcurrencyTest to run, oddly enough.
[02:48:39] 	 Clearly, this will need to be fixed ASAP. I'll take care of it on Thursday when I'm back online, or possibly
[02:48:40] 	 before.
[02:53:39] 	 Yippie, build fixed!
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[03:32:38] 	 03aaron *  10/trunk/extensions/SwiftMedia/wmf/rewrite.py: (log message trimmed)
[03:32:39] 	 * Keep the hash paths in the container paths for simplicity.
[03:32:39] 	 * Containers will always have a repo and zone portion. The repo is always "local" (for now). URLs with no zone dir name refer to the 'public' zone. Updated code to reflect this.
[03:32:39] 	 * Anchored regexp for correctness. Removed "ungreedy" ? qualifiers as we already
[03:32:39] 	 only matching [^/]. Also made regex require at least one char after the hash
[03:32:39] 	 dirs for a filename or directory. Changed 'path' and 'shard' group matching to
[03:32:40] 	 allow more direct use.
[03:33:13] 	 03santhosh *  10/trunk/extensions/WebFonts/fonts/Telu/ (6 files): Rename Vemana telugu font to match its actual name and fix broken download link.
[03:35:14] 	 03(mod) "Create a book" and "Download as PDF" don't wrap Chinese or Japanese lines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33430  +comment (10yaoziyuan)
[03:55:54] 	 03(NEW) Fatal error when a property is used inside an unclosed link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33652 major; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (rlane32)
[04:26:25] 	 03(mod) "Create a book" and "Download as PDF" don't wrap Chinese or Japanese lines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33430  +comment (10yaoziyuan)
[05:04:31] 	 hey there.. I found out php5.3.1 is not supported, but are the subsequent versions supported, 5.3.2 specifically?
[05:04:44] 	 for the stable release 1.18.0
[05:07:07] 	 HELLO, my wiki logo missing after update 1.17 to 1.18
[05:07:11] 	 ?
[05:23:47] 	 hectorh30: Yes.
[05:23:50] 	 howto: Link to your wiki?
[05:24:56] 	 yes
[05:25:04] 	 http://www.wikipasdecalais.fr
[05:25:07] 	 joan
[05:25:30] 	 Joan: thanks
[05:25:35] 	 howto: Do you have $wgLogo set in your LocalSettings.php?
[05:25:42] 	 yes of course
[05:25:56] 	 Is it set below the include(DeafultSettings.php) line?
[05:26:02] 	 And what's it set to? Can you paste the line?
[05:26:08] 	 yes
[05:26:12] * hectorh30  gets some peace
[05:26:16] 	 wait please
[05:26:44] 	 joan : $wgLogo             = "$wgStylePath/common/images/wiki.png";
[05:27:16] 	 howto: Right. When you upgraded, did you move the old wiki.png file over?
[05:27:32] 	 no
[05:27:44] 	 Well, you're specifying a particular file.
[05:27:51] 	 So when you upgarde, you need to make sure you still have that file.
[05:28:31] 	 upgrade
[05:28:33] 	 I can't type.
[05:28:45] 	 http://www.wikipasdecalais.fr/skins/common/images/wiki.png
[05:28:48] 	 You're loading that image.
[05:29:00] 	 You can either change $wgLogo (better option) or you can overwrite that file with your old logo.
[05:29:26] 	 strange
[05:29:31] 	 wait I verify
[05:29:50] 	 Most wiki admins upload their logo to the wiki.
[05:29:53] 	 As File:Wiki.png.
[05:30:02] 	 And then set $wgLogo to the location of that file.
[05:30:33] 	 I upload my logo on this directory
[05:30:40] 	 skins/common/images
[05:30:52] 	 Is it named wiki.png?
[05:31:04] 	 yes
[05:31:19] 	 http://www.wikipasdecalais.fr/skins/common/images/wiki.png
[05:31:24] 	 Guess not.
[05:31:49] 	 It's very strange we go to this adress and we see the standard logo 
[05:32:08] 	 You're not uploading the file to the web servver?
[05:32:09] 	 server
[05:32:11] 	 Grah.
[05:32:23] 	 Or you're uploading the file to the wrong folder.
[05:32:26] 	 Make sure you're in the new folder.
[05:32:30] 	 And not the old folder.
[05:33:17] 	 I'm sure
[05:33:32] 	 skins common images
[05:33:45] 	 And the file is named "wiki.png"?
[05:33:53] 	 When I upload the wiki.png I see my logo on my PC 
[05:34:08] 	 and if we go to the adress we see the old
[05:34:22] 	 How are you uploading it?
[05:34:36] 	 with filezilla
[05:35:07] 	 Can you create a test text file and add it to skins/common/images?
[05:35:20] 	 test.txt or something.\
[05:35:25] 	 ok
[05:36:16] 	  * The URL path of the wiki logo. The logo size should be 135x135 pixels.
[05:36:16] 	  * Defaults to "{$wgStylePath}/common/images/wiki.png".
[05:36:16] 	  */
[05:36:16] 	 $wgLogo				= false;
[05:36:21] 	 defautsettings
[05:36:45] 	 03(FIXED) When the user is following an interwiki link to another Wikipedia, a browser shouldn't be used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32932  +comment (10Liangent)
[05:36:48] 	 howto: It's loading the logo properly.
[05:37:02] 	 http://www.wikipasdecalais.fr/skins/common/images/wiki.png isn't the right file. It's not a MediaWiki problem, seemingly.
[05:37:40] 	 wich chmod for this folder ?
[05:37:47] 	 wich permission
[05:37:54] 	 http://www.wikipasdecalais.fr/skins/common/images/text.txt
[05:38:15] 	 Does that load a text file for you?
[05:38:32] 	 Not Found
[05:38:32] 	 The requested document was not found on this server.
[05:38:45] 	 so my text.txt is on line !!
[05:39:14] 	 You mean not online?
[05:40:19] 	 no
[05:40:38] 	 I put the file on the server
[05:40:45] 	 And it laods in your browser?
[05:40:51] 	 loads
[05:41:09] 	 no
[05:41:20] 	 strange isnt it ?
[05:41:26] 	 Not really.
[05:41:35] 	 You're either uploading to the wrong place or not uploading at all.
[05:41:55] 	 lol I promise you
[05:42:07] 	 Prove it. :-)
[05:42:54] 	 ok
[05:44:20] 	 look : http://pro.photomania.com/photoview3.asp?login=x_x11012012_TA3BB&photo=rad257D9.png&album=1
[05:45:41] 	 joan ?
[05:45:55] 	 Upload your logo as "wiki2.png"?
[05:46:26] 	 I try i too lol !!! And not work !
[05:50:33] 	 Hmm, I just hit a question. If I get page titles and IDs from the Allpages API call, which is it faster on the MW database to use when editing? The title, or the page ID?
[05:50:56] 	 joan ?
[05:51:40] 	 Princess: It doesn't really matter performance-wise.
[05:51:50] 	 It depends what you're doing.
[05:51:57] 	 It's not my own problem after update to 1.18 I have a fatal error with extension user merge and delete and with special link search
[05:51:58] 	 So choosing either is a matter of preference, and a micro-optimisation?
[05:52:02] 	 Page titles refer to concepts and can change status easily.
[05:52:14] 	 For example, a page can become a redirect if the page content is moved.
[05:52:28] 	 So if you rely on page titles, they may not be as stable as you need.
[05:52:37] 	 Page IDs can also change.
[05:52:48] 	 I use the edit conflict detection algorithm with basetimestamp / starttimestamp, so I get 	 IDs can also change? I didn't know that.
[05:53:19] 	 If you delete a page and it's undeleted or re-created, it'll have a new ID.
[05:53:29] 	 There might be some other edge cases where a page ID can change.
[05:54:08] 	 So choosing either has its pitfalls, but by title is not too bad
[05:54:14] 	 Thanks!
[05:54:28] 	 The MediaWiki UI (index.php) uses title.
[05:54:30] 	 Sorry for the interruption, howto, my question is answered now
[05:54:32] 	 If that helps.
[05:54:40] 	 index.php?title=Foo&action=edit
[05:54:42] 	 it does :)
[05:54:54] 	 I figured the query was optimised well enough anyway because people get pages by title
[05:55:17] 	 There's a unique index on page(page_namespace, page_title).
[05:55:24] 	 There has to be, of course.
[06:11:54] 	 03(mod) "Create a book" and "Download as PDF" don't wrap Chinese or Japanese lines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33430  +comment (10yaoziyuan)
[06:30:13] 	 [01:20]  I find it !!!
[06:30:13] 	 [01:20]  filezilla don't work correctly I update my logo directly with gest file online with my host
[06:30:16] 	 [01:27] ... quit howto
[06:30:35] 	 For those of you lurking at home.
[06:41:30] 	 Hi, I have this message : Fatal error: Call to a member function addWikiMsg() on a non-object in /var/www/vhosts/wikipasdecalais.fr/httpdocs/includes/specials/SpecialLinkSearch.php on line 82
[06:41:40] 	 after upgrading 1.17 to 1.18
[06:41:45] 	 what's this ?
[06:45:46] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API:Login#Structure_of_login_request  This is functional right?
[06:48:47] 	 New code comment: Hashar; Feature was removed by r108350 cause it has "too many bugs".; 
[06:49:41] 	 sbose7890: yes
[06:50:03] 	 just be sure to keep the cookies in the Set-Cookie headers in the reply
[06:53:18] 	 Princess:  http://pastebin.com/pWSqrnzL  check please ( in Java)
[06:54:19] 	 Posting text/xml?
[06:54:55] 	 Oh !!
[06:54:56] 	 You should be sending Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
[06:55:11] 	 And the parameter format=xml to *receive* XML
[06:56:29] 	 Also relevant: Content-Length isn't needed with HttpURLConnection, it's filled in from what you put in the output stream
[06:56:36] 	 you can remove that safely
[06:56:55] 	 Okay, doing that
[06:58:01] 	 Princess: made those changes, but recieving the same output 
[06:58:30] 	 What are you receiving exactly? (to a pastebin link)
[06:59:45] 	 Princess: I'm recieving whatever one recieves here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=login&lgname=Bob&lgpassword=secret
[07:00:23] 	 The example from API:Login returns 
[07:01:12] 	 sbose7890: +: I think you received a "token". You need to acknowledge that token with the same query and "&token=" + encode(errorTag.getAttribute("token"))
[07:01:34] 	 If not, please post what you received exactly in another pastebin link
[07:02:05] 	 Okay, im pasting the first 10 lines of the response, okay?
[07:03:07] 	 sbose7890: 10 lines? That sounds really odd...
[07:03:13] 	 http://pastebin.com/0QteKrvM   There isn't any 
[07:03:34] 	 sbose7890: But I think I see the error. You close the OutputStream without having sent anything at all.
[07:03:46] 	 See, you read the reply before you close the post data
[07:04:01] 	 Move os.close() above where you start reading, and remove the second os.close()
[07:04:44] 	 Okay doing that
[07:08:38] 	 Princess:  your last suggestion worked :-)
[07:08:43] 	 Thanks a lot!
[07:08:52] 	 You're welcome :)
[07:17:00] 	 03laner *  10/trunk/extensions/OpenStackManager/ (2 files in 2 dirs): We are adding a template, it's very likely anything added can't be directly modified.
[07:17:33] 	 Dantman: http://dev.wiki-tools.com/
[07:21:18] 	 03laner *  10/trunk/extensions/OpenStackManager/special/SpecialNovaProject.php: Removing unneeded sections from project form
[07:21:18] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; This doesn't look like a good idea, the output generated by Html:: functions depends on some configu; 
[07:26:32] 	 amgine: I know... haven't bothered to do anything about that yet
[07:27:10] 	 
[07:39:28] 	 Dantman: in theory I should be able to spit out any html button via SidebarDonateBox? even a button of my own creation?
[07:39:38] 	 mhmm
[07:40:21] 	 It's a really simple example of sidebar modification via hook.
[07:40:36] 	 To be fair though it's not much code to do it manually either
[07:41:42] 	 cross-skin and throughout a small wikifarm.
[07:43:48] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; I think we should just not reuse this message. I'm also against adding new raw html messages.; 
[07:47:33] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Functions param docs don't match function definition. mediawiki.util should be recorded as dependenc; 
[07:51:32] 	 New code comment: Siebrand; Okay. Can you revert and add a new key?; 
[08:18:17] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Yes today.; 
[08:30:54] 	 good morning. i have here an very old media wiki 1.4.4. how to export all the data and put it into a more recent mediawiki? any pointers?
[08:31:44] 	 03santhosh *  10/trunk/extensions/WebFonts/resources/ext.webfonts.preview.css:
[08:31:44] 	 Add some top padding to avoid text with large font size not touching the toolbar.
[08:31:44] 	 Also make sure enough line height is given for large font sizes.
[08:34:17] 	 !upgrading | TomTom
[08:34:18] 	 TomTom: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading
[08:34:39] 	 I recommend upgrading to 1.15 first, then up to 1.18
[08:34:50] 	 *up to 1.5. first
[08:35:27] 	 1.4.4... wow
[08:35:39] 	 that was what, 2005?
[08:38:15] 	 why change something whats running? of course this wiki was used in a closed network. now its time to move the wiki to a new machine with more recent software (at least for the next 5 years) ;)
[08:40:25] 	 The upload directory (public) is missing and could not be created by the webserver. wht it mean
[08:42:17] 	 New code comment: Fomafix; Since r80495 tables have no more white background color.; 
[08:42:46] 	 TomTom: Security reasons for example, Even on closed networks security matters... The numerous bug fixes... New features...
[08:48:28] * hashar  waits for svn merge
[08:56:02] 	 hello, I have this message : Error 324 (net::ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE): The server closed the connection without sending any data with any browser any ISP this error appear sometimes !
[08:56:23] 	 03(NEW) JqueryMsg parser should support templates without replacements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33653 normal; MediaWiki: Javascript; (santhosh.thottingal)
[08:56:27] 	 config memory problme perahpas ?
[08:57:03] 	 this error appear only on my wiki
[08:57:10] 	 own wiki
[09:06:03] 	 03hashar *  10/trunk/phase3/ (12 files in 8 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[09:06:03] 	 reverts Concurrency works
[09:06:03] 	 trunk is frozen pending stabilisation so we can release MediaWiki 1.19.
[09:06:03] 	 Those changes introduces API changes and new SQL tables, so that sounds like
[09:06:03] 	 new feature we do not have time to review right now.
[09:06:03] 	 Please reapply changes in branches/concurrency and have code review handled
[09:06:04] 	 there. Once the branch has been reviewed, please hold. Once trunk is stable
[09:06:59] 	 is it possible to export only the pages for reimport into new instance? i dont care for the history, but i dont want to copy 1000 pages manually
[09:07:17] 	 New code comment: Hashar; Reverted by r108601 . Manually added as a followup.; 
[09:07:32] 	 New code comment: Hashar; Reverted by r108601 . Manually added as a followup.; 
[09:08:17] 	 New code comment: Hashar; Revision manually added as follow up of r108572 r108560.; 
[09:08:30] 	 TomTom: you can make an xml dump of the pages in their current version
[09:08:55] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki#XML_dump
[09:10:25] 	 oh wait, MW1.4.4 - perhaps not
[09:10:34] 	 hehe its not available in 1.4.4 :-/
[09:11:03] 	 it seems i have to go the painfull incremental update path...
[09:11:23] 	 then create a sandbox wiki 1.4.4, duplicate the full wiki, upgrade to 1.15 or higher, export XML, clear database, import XML
[09:11:27] 	 sumtin' like that
[09:12:07] 	 TomTom: another reason to stay current: avoid future pain
[09:12:30] 	 (says someone that still lingers on 1.16)
[09:12:37] 	 HA HA ;)
[09:13:24] 	 ok so my path on the new machine will be, import the 1.4.4 database, install 1.5, upgrade, install 1.18, upgrade. right?
[09:14:21] 	 I understand you can use #ifexist:
[09:14:43] 	 TomTom: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_18/phase3/UPGRADE?view=markup
[09:14:48] 	 If you have #ifexist:{{{foo1|}}}{{{foo2|}}}
[09:15:04] 	 MakeShift: that's part of extension ParserFunctions
[09:15:05] 	 Can you do it so it only exists if both exist?
[09:15:20] 	 Rather than only one of them?
[09:15:32] 	 New code comment: Hashar; Is that revision resolved with the follow up or should we revert it for now?; 
[09:15:46] 	 TomTom: make sure to make a database dump after each version upgrade
[09:15:48] 	 {{#ifexist: {{{foo1|}}} | {{#ifexist: {{{foo2|}}} | both exist}}}}
[09:16:04] 	 TomTom: and keep all those dumps! Will make downgrading easier.
[09:16:05] 	 TomTom: what hashar says!
[09:16:38] 	 TomTom: the best would be to make an exact copy of your wiki on a different machine and try the upgrade there
[09:16:42] 	 I backup using a full SQL dump + xml full dump + xml current dump + localsettings.php
[09:17:20] 	 Saruman: what does "both exist" represent?
[09:17:26] 	 What do I put there?
[09:17:28] 	 your action or text
[09:17:37] 	 TomTom: If you are in 1.4.4, you should upgrade to 1.5 first which is a scary upgrade.  
[09:17:51] 	 Ah OK, thanks :)
[09:17:52] 	 its not a problem because i have always the 1.4.4 installation on the other machine if i have to restart B)=
[09:17:56] 	 TomTom: I am almost sure 1.18 can't not upgrade an installation from 1.4 :b
[09:17:57] 	 it's {{#ifexist:  |  | }}
[09:18:36] 	 hashar: scroll up. the path was already 1.4.4->1.5>1.18
[09:18:48] 	 that *might* works :-)
[09:19:00] 	 you are responsible, personally ;-)=
[09:19:15] 	 TomTom: mebby put in 1.9 in the upgrade path as well
[09:19:31] 	 well as long as you do backup in between upgrades and keep them, you should be fine
[09:20:07] 	 03(FIXED) "Create a book" and "Download as PDF" don't wrap Chinese or Japanese lines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33430  +comment (10Volker Haas)
[09:20:34] 	 I've been on board only since 1.12, but 1.4.4 -> 1.5 >- 1.9 -> 1.18 looks less risky
[09:27:33] 	 New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; Why was this deferred? Used on WMF wikis...; 
[09:34:52] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/Nuke/ (Nuke.php Nuke_body.php): fix bug 16985 based on attached patch by Nakon
[09:35:46] 	 03(FIXED) Special:Nuke shows always "1 edit" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16985  +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[09:38:31] 	 i m not able to use any extension
[09:38:31] 	 folder
[09:38:31] 	 i downloaded the extension and copied it in the extension
[09:38:54] 	 then i added it in localsettings.php
[09:38:54] 	 include( "$IP/extensions/InputBox/InputBox.php" );
[09:39:12] 	 but what is the address to use the extension?
[09:39:21] 	 03(mod) change the default Hebrew font - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30437  +comment (10volker.haas)
[09:39:30] 	 http://localhost/mediawiki/index.php/Extension:InputBox ?
[09:39:34] 	 potter: that depends on the extension
[09:39:43] 	 03(mod) change the default Hebrew font - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30437  +comment (10volker.haas)
[09:39:50] 	 InputBox extension
[09:39:59] 	 hashar: thanks for that revert. Would have been a bad example if it was left in.
[09:40:02] 	 potter: some extension define spoecial pages, that can be accessed using Special:xxx. some define parser tags or parser functions, which can be used in wikitext
[09:40:05] 	 potter: To check that you installed it correctly, go to Special:Version and check that Inputbox is listed
[09:40:09] 	 the*
[09:40:09] 	 i have giving ht elink above
[09:40:14] 	 some provide additional api functions. some add stuff to the user interface#
[09:40:16] 	 etc
[09:40:27] 	 yeah
[09:40:33] 	 potter: I think Inputbox provides an  text that you can use in wiki pages. Read the extension documentation
[09:40:41] 	 the extension is listed in version
[09:41:02] 	 thanks
[09:41:02] 	 ok
[09:41:02] 	 oh
[09:41:03] 	 right. inputbox doesn't have an address on your wiki, because it doesn't provide any pages
[09:41:09] 	 it just extends the wikitext syntax
[09:42:07] 	 ok guys thanks a lot :)
[09:42:30] 	 siebrand: I will just revert any new feature on sight :-b
[09:43:10] 	 03(NEW) Should add support for MySQL stored procedures/functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33654 enhancement; MediaWiki: Database; (hashar)
[09:45:04] 	 potter: np. for an extension that provides a special page, see for instance Extension:ContactPage
[09:46:13] 	 ok .. i was just about to ask it 
[09:46:30] 	 03hashar *  10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[09:46:30] 	 Reverts MySQL stored procedure support
[09:46:31] 	 This is reverting the work done by MaxSem to support stored procedures
[09:46:31] 	 and stored function in MySQL. The reasons are:
[09:46:31] 	 - it is not needed yet
[09:46:31] 	 - tests are not functionals
[09:46:32] 	 - alter the stable include/db/Database.php and drop support for ';;'
[09:47:47] 	 New code comment: Hashar; MaxSem > please note I am not against stored procedures supports. But I think it is unlikely to get ; 
[09:48:02] 	 New code comment: MaxSem; It '''is''' needed for GeoData.; 
[09:50:27] 	 hashar, so basically since WMF doesn't run update.php anyway this extension will work for us but not reusers. have you tried discussing first?
[09:51:11] 	 MaxSem: do should have talked to you first :b
[09:51:42] 	 MaxSem: my position is that this is not really needed yet by anyone and can be postponed a bit
[09:52:02] 	 it was committed in time for 1.19 and isn't even nearly as complex as you claim
[09:52:07] 	 the aim is to "get ride" of anything that could slowdown 1.19 branching
[09:52:10] 	 IT IS NEEDED
[09:52:37] 	 we already have a pre-deployment sandbox for stuff that needs it
[09:52:54] 	 oh my god 
[09:53:48] * hashar  looks at geodata extension
[09:54:47] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/ (3 files in 2 dirs): fix bug 33652
[09:55:34] 	 03(FIXED) Fatal error when a property is used inside an unclosed link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33652  +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[10:01:45] 	 03adamw *  10/trunk/extensions/Offline/ (8 files): spaces to hard tabs, a tangible improvement ;)
[10:02:45] 	 03nikerabbit *  10/trunk/extensions/Translate/utils/TranslationEditPage.php: Revert r108562 - going to introduce new message in next commit
[10:06:30] 	 03adamw *  10/trunk/extensions/Offline/ (DumpReader.php FulltextIndex.php Offline.php xapian.php): move xapian-specific code onto swig boilerplate: ready for other indexing engines
[10:07:15] 	 03nikerabbit *  10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (Translate.i18n.php utils/TranslationEditPage.php):
[10:07:15] 	 Don't reuse messages from core, causes problems with wikitext/html customisations.
[10:07:15] 	 Ping bug 33645, r108562
[10:07:42] 	 03(NEW) Consider DB message in fallback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33655 enhancement; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (liangent)
[10:08:13] 	 03adamw *  10/trunk/extensions/Offline/DatabaseBz2.php: inherit from DatabaseBase and remove stubs implemented in the base class.
[10:13:17] 	 14(DUP) Consider DB message in fallback - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33655  +comment (10Siebrand)
[10:13:18] 	 03(mod) Undefined messages in user language don't fall back to MediaWiki: customizations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1495  +comment (10Siebrand)
[10:14:19] 	 oh my god, i also have to downgrade php and fiddle around with some files, to get mediawiki 1.5.x running on a recent installation... 
[10:15:15] 	 Just do it on the box that 1.4 was running on if possible to save doing all that
[10:15:44] 	 TomTom: how important is it to you to keep you user accounts and logs?
[10:16:07] 	 if it isn't, you could just install a blank wiki and transfer the content using an xml dump
[10:16:45] 	 hm... does mwdumps handle charset conversion?
[10:16:50] 	 *mwdumper
[10:21:05] 	 03(FIXED) PHP Notice: Undefined property: stdClass::$ar_sha1 in /www/w/includes/Revision.php on line 127 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32984  +comment (10Siebrand)
[10:22:34] 	 03(mod) Webfonts doesn't render in IE8 and produces junk characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32775  +comment (10Siebrand)
[10:23:41] 	 03(WONTFIX) Request for changes in Edit tools provided above edit window on Marathi Language Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32670  +comment (10Siebrand)
[10:24:58] 	 03(mod) re-indexing of wikis with gender namespaces - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32634  +comment (10s.mazeland)
[10:32:03] 	 03(mod) "Create a book" and "Download as PDF" don't wrap Chinese or Japanese lines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33430  +comment (10yaoziyuan)
[10:33:38] 	 03ialex *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php:
[10:33:38] 	 Moved RessourceLoader modules and stylesheet related stuff from EditPage::edit()
[10:33:38] 	 to EditPage::setHeaders() and header messages to EditPage::showHeader(); there's
[10:33:38] 	 no point running all that code when the edit form is not displayed (e.g. page
[10:33:38] 	 save).
[10:34:28] 	 03(mod) Redirects to Images on Shared Repos do not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18248  +comment (10Bryan.TongMinh)
[10:34:33] 	 great: 1.4.4 -> 1.5.8   Error: 1054 Unknown column 'user_email_authenticated' in 'field list' (localhost) , this column does not exists in the 1.4.4 DB.
[10:34:36] 	 03(mod) Enable Rollback group on id.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33508  +comment (10Imanuel NS Uen)
[10:36:25] 	 03(mod) "Create a book" and "Download as PDF" don't wrap Chinese or Japanese lines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33430  +comment (10yaoziyuan)
[10:37:07] 	 now i have used update.php, and it worked
[10:38:30] 	 03maxsem *  10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/importDump.php: Fixed reporting in importDump.txt
[10:41:03] 	 03(mod) "Create a book" and "Download as PDF" don't wrap Chinese or Japanese lines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33430  +comment (10yaoziyuan)
[10:41:20] 	 TomTom: looks like your well under way
[10:46:58] 	 03(mod) "Create a book" and "Download as PDF" don't wrap Chinese or Japanese lines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33430  +comment (10yaoziyuan)
[10:54:18] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; I assume it is this revision that fixes all those annoying [edit] section links on special pages. Ta; 
[11:30:12] 	 finally i have my 1.4.4 wiki on a new machine running 1.18.0 . thanks for your help!
[11:34:17] 	 03(NEW) The search box should lose focus when a Go action is performed. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33656 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: android; (liangent)
[11:48:45] 	 03maxsem *  10/trunk/extensions/GeoData/ (CoordinatesParserFunction.php GeoData.i18n.php): Always add error messages to pages in content language
[11:49:24] 	 TomTom: you're welcome
[11:52:25] 	 03(NEW) DigiCert High Assurance EV Root CA is not trusted by IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33657 normal; Wikimedia: SSL related; (liangent)
[11:55:56] 	 03(mod) DigiCert High Assurance EV Root CA is not trusted by IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33657  +comment (10liangent)
[11:56:34] 	 03(mod) DigiCert High Assurance EV Root CA is not trusted by IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33657  +comment (10liangent)
[12:04:15] 	 03(NEW) Add support for GRAMMAR in javascript message parsing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33658 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (santhosh.thottingal)
[12:05:45] 	 03(mod) Add support for GRAMMAR in javascript message parsing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33658  (10Santhosh Thottingal)
[12:05:47] 	 03(mod) JqueryMsg parser should support templates without replacements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33653  (10Santhosh Thottingal)
[12:11:17] 	 New code comment: Moejoe000; Reverts r106883 and r106946 (not r106993); 
[12:16:15] 	 Hi folks ... I got a weird error today. Can someone suggest what's wrong? http://unseen.affordable-rpg.co.uk
[12:16:55] 	 (Was working previously; running the quoted query manually returns an empty set)
[12:24:22] 	 OK ... so I get "table does not exist", and then refreshing 10 minutes later (without changing anything) it works fine
[12:30:25] 	 03(mod) Enable Rollback group on id.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33508  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[12:33:30] 	  MrAngel Any error messages in logs?
[12:36:24] 	 tale: Only the same as the message with $wgShowExceptionDetails - "table 'wiki_unseen.l10n_cache' does not exist"
[13:01:46] 	 03(mod) Special:Nuke shows always "1 edit" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16985  +comment (10sumanah)
[13:03:02] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Only FIXME for CSS extension?; 
[13:03:05] 	 03(mod) "Create a book" and "Download as PDF" don't wrap Chinese or Japanese lines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33430  +comment (10volker.haas)
[13:09:33] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Sounds like a good idea.; 
[13:19:42] 	 hi hexmode 
[13:19:48] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Not sure if I like 500 extra queries...can you make it do less?; 
[13:27:29] 	 santhosh1: for https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33653 and https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33658  do you think it's better to post the code in BZ or to put it in a branch in SVN?
[13:28:03] 	 santhosh1: and am I right in inferring that you're going to come back to those patches and commit them to SVN once the slush is over?
[13:28:10] 	 yes
[13:28:31] 	 sumanah: yes, this should be committed as soon as slush is over
[13:29:05] 	 I always thought this was what SVN branches were for....
[13:29:11] * sumanah  is puzzled
[13:29:53] 	 03(FIXED) [[Special:Nuke/USERNAME]] no longer works, chucks user back to main entry point - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32652  +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:30:03] 	 if there is going to be many patches, but if it is just one or two patches it's just overhead
[13:30:32] 	 Nikerabbit: ok, understood
[13:30:48] 	 being the patch in bugzilla, and Roan, Krinkle Neil in cc make the discussion on it easier, and code will be ready for commit with fixes if any by the time slush is over
[13:31:09] 	 http://toolserver.org/~robla/crstats/ shows that we've been hovering around 350-500 revisions to be reviewed for a little while; I wonder when we'll get down to 0
[13:31:31] 	 sumanah: No, it's what /git/ branches are for. /SVN/ branches are for experts and sadomasochists
[13:31:49] 	 sigh
[13:31:52] 	 (and before you ask, I count myself towards the former, not the latter)
[13:32:17] 	 I would probably the latter :D
[13:32:34] 	 For a single change like that, a BZ patch is probably more convenient than a whole SVN branch
[13:32:34] 	 I'm either less crass or more capable of reading context than you assume, RoanKattouw :-)
[13:32:56] 	 sumanah: No, I'm just less capable of reading than I assumed
[13:33:06] 	 Nikerabbit	if there is going to be many patches, but if it is just one or two patches it's just overhead   	sumanah	Nikerabbit: ok, understood
[13:33:08] 	 Missed that bit ---^^
[13:33:32] 	 RoanKattouw: care to predict how long the slush will last? I ask because that influences whether folks like santhosh1 should actually go to the effort of making a branch
[13:33:37] 	 03(FIXED) Do not repeat "Return to Main page" under every deleted item on Special:Nuke - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31104  +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:33:53] 	 Hmm, let's see
[13:34:12] 	 JeroenDeDauw: I think we only use Resolved: Fixed if the issue's been fixed by a particular revision; otherwise we use WORKSFORME if we cannot reproduce the issue anymore
[13:34:32] * RoanKattouw  looks up some CR stats
[13:34:37] 	 doesn't matter so much
[13:34:47] 	 98 new, 10 fixme in phase3
[13:35:00] 	 My optimistic self wants to say "1 week'
[13:35:04] 	 So make that 2
[13:35:15] 	 I'd say 2 if I were optimistic
[13:35:16] 	 RoanKattouw: a bunch of folks are traveling to SF and being social next week
[13:35:27] 	 Yeah, myself included
[13:35:28] 	 thus reducing eyes-on-screen time
[13:37:02] 	 santhosh1, Nikerabbit, thanks for the explanation -- you can see why I asked, right? :-)  (I was looking at the new patches that needed reviewing and came across these 2)
[13:37:02] 	 hi! i used a shit theme in my mediawiki and now i see a white page. where can i set the default theme? in the sql?
[13:37:10] 	 03(NEW) User name autocompletion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33659 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: Nuke; (jeroen_dedauw)
[13:37:12] 	 if yes in which table
[13:37:17] 	 03(mod) User name autocompletion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33659  (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[13:37:22] 	 !skin | hardcore 
[13:37:22] 	 hardcore: . Skin usage: . Gallery of CSS styles: . Writing your own: 
[13:37:34] 	 !blankpage | hardcore 
[13:37:34] 	 hardcore: A blank page or HTTP 500 error usually indicates a fatal PHP error. For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see .
[13:37:42] 	 hopefully in the future someone will blow the whistle every time we go over 200 unreviewed commits
[13:38:02] 	 thanks
[13:38:35] 	 Nikerabbit: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Sumanah/Launchpad-dev-process  gives an example process whereby all commits are reviewed within a day
[13:38:49] 	 Nikerabbit: it requires that we mentor more people to review code
[13:39:09] 	 in sumanah bugzilla , what to color of the bug represent?
[13:39:27] 	 sumanah in *
[13:39:28] 	 potter: the color is another symbol of the severity, I believe.  How bad the bug is.  
[13:39:29] 	 sumanah: as in doing pair reviewing?
[13:39:59] 	 Nikerabbit: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Sumanah/Launchpad-dev-process#Transition_to_new_system describes how their mentorship works
[13:40:08] 	 While being mentored, the mentat does reviews, and they're marked "review-type: code*" (not "code") to indicate, "this is a review from a trainee, do not consider it approved till my mentor looks & follows it up with a final review."
[13:40:21] 	 and how do we now that it is solved or not?i mean that is the final check right?
[13:40:40] 	 that = bugziila site
[13:40:50] 	 hardcore, also, you can try to append ?useskin=monobook or vector to the address bar
[13:40:55] 	 potter: let me lead you through some of our process.
[13:41:11] 	 yeah ok
[13:41:17] 	 sumanah: seems a bit inefficient from knowledge transfer perspective
[13:41:22] 	 potter: First, someone finds a problem in MediaWiki and files a bug report in Bugzilla.  Then someone else solves it
[13:41:41] 	 ok then
[13:41:44] 	 Nikerabbit: Canonical has folks around the world so there are timezone problems.  I'm sure we could improve on stuff
[13:41:51] 	 Nikerabbit: read the whole report
[13:42:15] 	 sumanah: I'll try, but I have truck loads of work in this sprint ;)
[13:42:16] 	 potter: when the developer fixes the problem, s/he comments with a revision number "r####" and marks the bug report as "resolved: fixed"
[13:42:50] 	 potter: the way the developer fixes the problem is by making a change and committing that change to our code repository, Subversion
[13:43:17] 	 potter: you can browse recent changes that developers have made using this view: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki
[13:43:41] 	 potter: so the "r####" link in the bug report comment links to a revision in that tool
[13:43:41] 	 TiCPU|Work: index.php?useskin=monobook works but index.php?title=Spezial:Einstellungen?useskin=monobook not :-(
[13:43:56] 	 @sumanh :yes
[13:43:58] 	 potter: example: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16985
[13:44:53] 	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16985#c8 links to a revision https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/108602
[13:45:22] 	 TiCPU|Work: i want to go to the settings to switch back to the old skin
[13:45:22] 	 So if the status is new.. thn it is unresolved
[13:45:47] 	 potter: just one moment, I'll get to that
[13:45:57] 	 ok
[13:46:28] 	 potter: after a developer commits a revision into Subversion, another developer has to review it in order to mark it OK or possibly to find problems with it that must be fixed with a followup revision (I use "revision" and "commit" interchangeably)
[13:47:08] 	 potter: and every so often, we basically make sure we have reviewed all the code that has been committed in the last several months and deploy that new version to the Wikimedia sites such as Wikipedia
[13:47:29] 	 we number the new version; the most recent deployed version is MediaWiki 1.18 and we are currently working on code review towards deploying 1.19
[13:47:56] 	 ok..
[13:48:03] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; There is no verb in the method name.; 
[13:48:14] 	 right now this only happens every few months, so sometimes a developer makes  a fix that is not deployed for a while, so in our system the bug is "fixed" even though the prob is still occurring on Wikipedia because we haven't deployed the fix yet
[13:48:42] 	 potter: after deployment, we see if any new problems occur, we fix them, and then we put out an official release for others to download
[13:48:47] 	 potter: that is a simplified version :-)
[13:48:57] 	 potter: ok, you asked about bug report statuses
[13:49:04] 	 one doubt
[13:49:11] 	 potter: we have a few.  
[13:49:13] 	 suppose i bug is fixed by some developer
[13:49:47] 	 will it be updated in bugzilla asap so that  no one else re-fixes it?
[13:50:19] 	 potter: Unconfirmed, New, Assigned, and Reopened are the bug statuses that mean the bug is still open.  Resolved, Verified, and Closed are the bug statuses that mean the bug is inactive.
[13:50:44] 	 ok .. got the basics :~)
[13:51:08] 	 potter: the social custom is that when a developer fixes a bug, s/he immediately marks the bug as Resolved:Fixed, and leaves a final comment on the bug linking to the revision in which s/he fixed it.  So that is how we make sure to avoid duplicate effort.
[13:51:35] 	 @sumanah:i started with wikimedia 3-4 days back .. so iwas searching for some simple bugs
[13:51:45] 	 potter: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_Little_Bug is where we put those.
[13:51:59] 	 potter: have you found https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker useful at all?
[13:52:03] 	 so i took up InputBoxForm cause it was simple code to understand 
[13:52:28] 	 to tell the truth .. the above site is decent.. 
[13:52:50] 	 no very great.. but conveys simple stuff..
[13:53:46] 	 so can you suggest me some Extension which is not that complicated and has bugs which are also not that complicated.. any new extension will have these conditions i suppose
[13:53:48] 	 potter: what improvements would you suggest? guillom is working on improving it.
[13:53:54] 	 potter: WikiLove.
[13:54:16] 	 !e WikiLove
[13:54:16] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiLove
[13:54:18] 	 hi in order to use Extension "Collection" do i need to set up an account there? ive installed the plugin and added it to LocalSettings now its displayed in the menu left, but clicking on something results in a blank page 
[13:54:20] 	 WikiLove i saw.. i felt it to be a bit complicated
[13:54:30] 	 potter: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/List_of_simple_extensions
[13:54:31] 	 i m still a newbie.
[13:54:36] 	 !blankpage spY|da
[13:54:36] 	 A blank page or HTTP 500 error usually indicates a fatal PHP error. For information on debugging (including viewing errors), see .
[13:55:13] 	 i've fixed the problem in the table called wiki_user_properties
[13:55:19] 	 @ TiCPU|Work :)
[13:55:32] 	 mysql> update wiki_user_properties set up_value="monobook" where up_value="sasi";
[13:56:08] 	 JeroenDeDauw: the bugs that you mentioned to me, the easy ones in Extension:Nuke -- ok if I mark those with the "easy" keyword?
[13:56:28] 	 potter: have you tried writing a very simple Special Page yet? that might be a better first step for you
[13:56:42] 	 yeah i wrote it
[13:56:53] 	 @sumanah : i was looking through InputBoxForm.. do you have any idea how complex are the bugs?
[13:56:58] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/sql/AddExtraFields.sql: fix typo causing table updates to fail
[13:56:59] 	 sumanah: sure
[13:57:27] 	 potter: point me to one of the bugs you're thinking about?
[13:57:48] 	 i read through all of them.. i didnt understand most of them
[13:58:05] 	 i mean i couldnt get what they were trying to say.
[13:58:13] 	 03(mod) Add a namespace option to Special:Nuke - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23134   +easy; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[13:58:19] 	 example :https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13834
[13:59:08] 	 potter: you have a local installation of MediaWiki, I assume.
[13:59:15] 	 potter: what extensions have you installed?
[13:59:20] 	 yeah
[13:59:49] 	 i have installed AssertEdit 2 hrs back and wikilove and the simple "myExtension" and InputBoxForm
[14:00:06] 	 JeroenDeDauw: hmm, upon looking at these, I think "create an API for Special:Nuke" is probably a little too complicated for the "easy" level I am thinking of
[14:00:56] 	 potter: have you checked out SocialProfile?  ashley here is the maintainer
[14:01:16] 	 No i havent :do you suggets i check it?
[14:01:28] 	 Platonides, thanks, but doesnt help me at all, Fatal error: Call to undefined function curl_init() in /var/www/mediawiki/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php on line 1259  cant interpret something like this 
[14:01:51] 	 potter: look at that.  and maybe you should install some of the other simple extensions from the list of simple extensions, look around in there and see if you can get some practice by improving things, adding nice polish
[14:02:19] 	 ok , i'll do that
[14:02:26] 	 potter: so I am inferring that you learn best by doing.  Is that right?
[14:02:52] 	 yeah correct
[14:02:57] 	 potter: do you find that you can come up with ideas for little projects by yourself, or do you need bugs/enhancement requests from others to guide you?
[14:03:49] 	 also, potter, do you find it helpful to follow along with tutorial videos/documents?
[14:03:49] 	 hmm .i think initial help would be good
[14:04:02] 	 so that i can understand stuff more deeply
[14:04:10] 	 i havent watched videos/documents
[14:04:41] 	 I'm asking, in general, do you find that helpful, or do you dislike video tutorials and HOWTO documents?
[14:05:37] 	 @sumanh i havent watched them :-|
[14:06:31] 	 potter: so it sounds like you've never had the opportunity to watch tutorial videos -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zlGo-hrnt8 is a video about extension development for MediaWiki in case you want to check it out
[14:06:58] 	 ok i'll check this out thanks
[14:07:04] 	 (you weren't very clear)
[14:07:07] 	 i had kept it for later and totally forgot
[14:07:16] 	 03(mod) "Create a book" and "Download as PDF" don't wrap Chinese or Japanese lines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33430  +comment (10yaoziyuan)
[14:07:41] 	 03nikerabbit *  10/trunk/extensions/WebFonts/resources/ext.webfonts.preview.js: Fix Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'ttf' of undefined
[14:07:41] 	 potter: and the slides are at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimania_2011-_A_brief_introduction_to_MediaWiki_extension_development.pdf
[14:07:53] 	 03(mod) "Create a book" and "Download as PDF" don't wrap Chinese or Japanese lines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33430  +comment (10yaoziyuan)
[14:08:37] 	 potter: what languages do you know? and do you know Subversion and/or git?
[14:09:08] 	 i know git.i know python,java,c,c++,decent php
[14:09:17] 	 javascript also
[14:09:53] 	 potter: we're switching to git this year, but right now we use Subversion
[14:10:36] 	 oh .. i will read it up when required 
[14:10:57] 	 potter: http://openhatch.org/missions/svn is a quick tutorial
[14:11:10] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (DefaultSettings.php GlobalFunctions.php): revert r108508 which reverted for no good reason
[14:12:59] 	 @sumanah :i got to leave.. thanks a lot of advice .. talk to you later :-)
[14:13:03] 	 :0
[14:13:07] 	 I mean :)
[14:14:08] 	 heh
[14:14:21] 	 shift key has been acting up 
[14:14:41] 	 shift key been eating too much sugar?
[14:14:55] 	 potter: are you coming to the Pune hackathon?
[14:16:29] 	 amgine: hope you are feeling better.
[14:16:40] 	 Hello, I'm installing media wiki. In the french faq it's written that i need to change file permission of "config" by 775, but i don't find "config". Is it "mw-config"?
[14:17:38] 	 yeah
[14:17:44] 	 :)
[14:18:00] 	 we moved it from config to mw-config to fix collisions with web hosting panels that automatically just change what /config does
[14:18:04] 	 Please update the documentation!
[14:18:07] 	 yep
[14:18:11] 	 Thanks
[14:18:12] 	 maijin, la FAQ en français risque de ne pas être à jour. Puisque tu lis l'anglais, n'hésite pas à la mettre à jour.
[14:18:19] 	 Ah, zut, Reedy a été plus rapide.
[14:18:25] 	 xD
[14:18:31] 	 !config
[14:18:31] 	 All configuration is done in LocalSettings.php (near the end of the file). Editing other files means modifying the software. Default settings are not in LocalSettings.php, you can look in DefaultSettings.php. See , , , and 
[14:18:36] 	 hmm
[14:18:38] 	 !mw-config
[14:18:39] 	 I don't know anything about "mw-config".
[14:18:39] 	 Done
[14:19:11] 	 guillom, I've update it anyway
[14:19:12] 	 :p
[14:19:12] 	 thanks maijin 
[14:19:28] 	 Reedy, RoanKattouw_away: have time to fix a JavaScript bug? Uncaught ReferenceError: ProtectionForm is not defined
[14:19:42] 	 !mw-config The old "config" folder is now called "mw-config". It was moved due to various web hosting panels unconditionally rewriting /config to load the web panel
[14:19:43] 	 I don't know anything about "mw-config".
[14:19:49] 	 !mw-config is The old "config" folder is now called "mw-config". It was moved due to various web hosting panels unconditionally rewriting /config to load the web panel
[14:19:49] 	 Successfully added keyword: mw-config
[14:20:07] 	 Nikerabbit, I'm not really the person to fix that.. Where is it the error?
[14:20:09] 	 its written "config" for the english version too :D
[14:20:16] 	 haha
[14:20:25] 	 when did we change it..
[14:20:32] 	 yuvipanda, sumanah , hi. Am I to understand, based on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Yuvipanda/How_to_become_a_mediawiki_hacker , that what is expected is to turn the page into a set of step-by-step instructions, or a set of links to more detailed tutorials?
[14:20:39] 	 in 1.18
[14:20:47] 	 !1.18
[14:20:48] 	 MediaWiki 1.18 is out. Latest version is 1.18.0; ; REL1_18 branched on 18 July 2011 at r92475 ;
[14:20:50] 	 I update it too
[14:21:00] 	 1.18 is *only* 6 months old
[14:21:01] * Reedy  grins
[14:21:05] 	 guillom: heya
[14:21:24] 	 guillom: yes, step by step instructions where all 'steps' not directly related to mediawiki are links to outside tutorials
[14:21:37] 	 Do i need to apply 757 to all the subdirectories (Recurse?)
[14:21:41] 	 hexmode, do you still need help with AbuseFilter?
[14:21:41] 	 yuvipanda, ah, thanks. That makes it clearer.
[14:22:14] 	 guillom: :) You intend to work on that page itself or use that as a starting point for some other page?
[14:22:35] 	 03(mod) "Create a book" and "Download as PDF" don't wrap Chinese or Japanese lines - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33430  +comment (10yaoziyuan)
[14:22:37] 	 Reedy: action=protect
[14:22:51] 	 03(mod) Search box highlight - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19935  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[14:22:55] 	 when i'm changing permissions to mw-config, do i need to do it recurse into all files and subdirectories?
[14:23:03] 	 or only for mw-config?
[14:26:00] <^demon|away>	 You shouldn't have to change permissions on mw-config at all.
[14:26:20] <^demon|away>	 That was an older instruction from when the installation wrote LocalSettings.php to that directory
[14:26:59] 	 ok :)
[14:27:03] 	 thanks
[14:27:08] 	 why is there no Extension: page on mediawiki.org for the article feedback tool, and why are there an ArticleFeedback extension and an  ArticleFeedbackv5 extension?
[14:27:37] 	 sumanah: AFT is being redesigned, but they want to run the old and the new versions in parallel
[14:27:47] <^demon>	 There's your answer to question 2 :)
[14:27:56] * sumanah  is slightly ungrumpified
[14:28:05] <^demon>	 The answer to question 1 is "most of us don't write documentation unless a gun is held to our heads"
[14:29:12] 	 nevermind, I was looking under the wrong name
[14:29:12] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ArticleFeedback
[14:29:27] * sumanah  cancels grump mode
[14:33:12] 	 Nikerabbit: is there some lang function to feed years to?
[14:33:52] 	 hexmode: so what's the situation with the test deployment site?
[14:36:03] * varnent  ears perk up
[14:36:33] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (3 files in 2 dirs): work on student and term pagers
[14:37:09] 	 03(mod) SF Upload popup permissions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33555  +comment (10mitchell_neill)
[14:38:02] 	 03rsterbin *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/modules/ext.articleFeedbackv5/ext.articleFeedbackv5.js: Turn the feedback link on by default
[14:45:30] 	 Yaron: hey, ISTR you were involved in some talk a while ago about funding for mediawiki as a project (to e.g. fund stuff that the foundation isn't as interested in). i can't really remember half of what i'm thinking of though
[14:45:53] 	 Where i need to put LocalSettings?
[14:45:58] 	 Yaron: anyway, varnent (lurking here now) may be interested in hearing about some of those plans
[14:46:14] 	 maijin: usually in the root of the install?
[14:46:27] 	 maijin: i.e. the same place as index.php
[14:46:37] 	 jeremyb - I'm not sure I remember such a talk... it's something I'm involved in a lot, though.
[14:46:43] 	 What's "ISTR", by the way?
[14:46:48] 	 i seem to recall
[14:46:48] 	 jem-, thanks :D
[14:47:01] 	 jeremyb, thanks
[14:47:13] 	 Ah.
[14:47:25] 	 maijin: damnit, guillom taught me how to respond to merci and i can't remember
[14:47:32] 	 03demon *  10/trunk/extensions/ParserFunctions/testExpr.php: Stop using in_string(). WikiScripts and AbuseFilter are the only exts still using this silly thing.
[14:47:41] 	 jeremyb, "de rien"
[14:47:51] <^demon>	 jeremyb: "HI THERE!!"
[14:47:51] 	 maijin: merci!
[14:48:09] 	 JeroenDeDauw: formatNum( 1000, true );
[14:48:23] 	 JeroenDeDauw: oor sprintfDate( 'Y' ) or something
[14:48:28] 	 ^demon: HI! everyone must speak english only!?
[14:48:31] 	 jeremyb, "de rien" or "je t'en prie"
[14:48:35] 	 :)
[14:48:42] <^demon>	 jeremyb: HI! Yes.
[14:49:01] 	 ^demon: k ;-{
[14:49:04] * varnent  emerges from my lurk
[14:49:09] 	 so i had install media-wiki, but during the installation it said something aabout security and images folder
[14:49:20] 	 RoanKattouw: I'll file a bug then
[14:49:21] 	 maijin: no -
[14:49:24] 	 is it very important? and do i need to do?
[14:49:27] 	 Yaron: yeah - it's an interesting idea - let me know if it comes up for discussion again - I'd like to follow  :)
[14:49:39] 	 Well... it's a big topic.
[14:49:50] * jeremyb  will be on and off today. going for now
[14:50:08] 	 Yaron: I gathered that a bit from jeremyb - seems to be a part of the larger WMF/Wikimedia conversation
[14:50:16] 	 I mean, in the Semantic MediaWiki world there's a lot of development that goes on outside of the WMF umbrella. All of it, in fact.
[14:50:23] 	 yep.
[14:50:25] 	 Well, almost all, depending on how you look at it.
[14:50:44] 	 03(NEW) Uncaught ReferenceError: ProtectionForm is not defined - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33660 normal; MediaWiki: Javascript; (niklas.laxstrom)
[14:50:48] 	 Well, most of it.
[14:51:03] 	 varnent - are you looking for funding? Or just thinking about this kind of thing?
[14:51:05] 	 jeremyb, is it important this story of image folder security? and do i need to do?
[14:51:29] 	 maijin: don't know offhand. maybe you can copy the actual msg...
[14:51:39] 	 too late :(
[14:51:43] 	 hah
[14:52:00] 	 varnent: By the way, I think you might have heard about this, but Hallo Welt!, a German wiki consultancy, is now working with Microsoft to improve how well MediaWiki works with Azure, their cloud offering
[14:52:04] 	 Yaron: pondering about this kind of thing in general - learning more about the terrain for possible advocacy of 3rd party wikis
[14:52:21] 	 sumanah: I hadn't heard that - but very interesting - I like that
[14:52:22] 	 sumanah: does Azure run php?
[14:52:25] 	 it said the folder where my downloaded images is not secure
[14:52:31] 	 sumanah - oh, I was wondering about that new Azure extension thing. Now it makes sense.
[14:52:37] 	 varnent: blobaugh is also working on this
[14:52:42] 	 sumanah: lol - I may never use it mind you (as I type from my iMac) - but I might recommend it to others  :)
[14:52:46] 	 maijin: then `stat /path/to/images` ?
[14:52:54] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/includes/ (EPCourse.php EPOrg.php EPStudentPager.php EPTerm.php): follow up to r108616, fixed stuff fed to lang->pipelist and added some utility functions
[14:52:58] 	 varnent - what do you mean by advocacy?
[14:53:08] 	 varnent: I only mention it as an example of the kind of third-party vitality you're interested in knowing og
[14:53:11] 	 of*
[14:53:11] 	 it written the path of the folder yes
[14:53:15] 	 03reedy *  10/branches/REL1_18/phase3/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
[14:53:15] 	 MFT r92703, r94131
[14:53:15] 	 Move RELEASE-NOTES to 1.18
[14:53:35] 	 jeremyb, it written the path of the folder yes
[14:53:52] 	 Yaron: broadly - just helping keep their needs - the types of things sumanah just mentioned - how WMF and Wikimedia community supporters (like Microsoft apparently) are helping the broader wiki community
[14:53:56] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES-1.19: Kill bug 25355 RELEASE-NOTES-1.19 from r92703 as moved to 1.18 in r108620
[14:54:10] 	 Nikerabbit: cool, thnx
[14:54:15] 	 Nikerabbit: Yeah, thanks, I'm sorry for not responding earlier
[14:54:23] 	 varnent: Yaron is at a NYC-based wiki consultancy
[14:54:41] 	 maijin: i mean, run stat
[14:54:47] 	 how?
[14:54:57] 	 maijin: you have a shell?
[14:55:11] 	 hum yes but i use filezilla jeremyb 
[14:55:58] 	 Yaron: basically, if someone reports a MW bug and the WMF ain't interested and no company is hurting from the bug and no vol dev steps up to do it then it can just sit there. there's i think essentially no funding to support improving mediawiki for mediawiki, it's all about mediawiki users and improving mediawiki is a byproduct
[14:56:08] 	 Yaron: among a variety of other services, I do some consulting for nonprofits on wikis - so I have a professional interest as well in how MW evolves and is treated within Wikimedia world
[14:56:10] 	 Yaron: (of course maybe i have some of that wrong)
[14:56:39] 	 varnent: you're not the only one ;)
[14:56:45] 	 varnent: other wiki consultants/consultancies are spread throughout the US and Europe, I don't know of any in Asia, South America, Africa, or Australia
[14:56:46] 	 Yaron: anyway, i thought there was some talk about doing some kind of separate funding / earmarking
[14:56:47] 	 jeremyb - right, that's probably true. Things in different in the world of extensions, but that's a different story.
[14:56:47] 	 Nikerabbit: oh I know  :)
[14:56:57] 	 (Things are)
[14:57:25] 	 extensions funding is another fun topic - discussing it a bit within WikiProject Extensions now actually
[14:58:14] 	 I have a lot of experience with funding for extensions.
[14:58:19] * jeremyb  will bbl, but definitely interested in hearing more about this
[14:59:17] 	 Paid, core MediaWiki development is a tricky thing - I don't think I've ever heard of a company interested in doing that.
[15:00:31] 	 you mean paying for it or getting paid for it?
[15:00:32] 	 I mean, stuff like true WYSIWYG editing (the VisualEditor project) will most likely require changes to core MediaWiki, from what I understand - and that would benefit a lot of corporate users - but I think that would be a really tough sell.
[15:00:44] 	 one model is bounties...
[15:00:44] 	 jeremyb - getting paid for it.
[15:00:54] 	 doesn't have to be big bucks at least to start
[15:01:01] 	 and can be individuals
[15:01:02] 	 (Thankfully, Wikipedia needs WYSIWYG as well.)
[15:01:07] 	 hahaha
[15:01:15] 	 ...or so I'm told. :)
[15:01:28] 	 jeremyb - what's a bounty?
[15:01:58] 	 Yaron: a bounty is a way to demoralize all the volunteer developers by making them ask "hey where is my money?"
[15:02:07] 	 Oh - good to know.
[15:03:03] 	 Various open source programs have set up bounty initiatives that paid for certain bugfixes or features, or for reports of security vulnerabilities, with very little success.
[15:03:44] 	 sumanah - well, yeah - but if the group handing out the money is an unrelated organization, it might be a different story.
[15:04:11] 	 03(mod) [SF] Special:RunQuery error takes down pages using it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33424  (10contrafibularity)
[15:04:25] 	 That's how it works for extensions - but for core MediaWiki it's a lot trickier anyway, so I don't know.
[15:04:39] 	 03reedy *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/ (6 files in 4 dirs): MFT r92703, r94131, r100756, r103074, r107623
[15:04:43] 	 03(mod) [SF] Special:RunQuery error takes down pages using it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33424  (10contrafibularity)
[15:04:57] 	 Yuvipanda, to answer your question, I'm thinking of editing [[How to become a MediaWiki hacker]] and related pages directly based on your suggestions
[15:04:59] 	 well one way to do it could be companies that want features but don't want to pay for it entirely themselves. they can set a bounty which others can add to and it could add up to be worth it to someone
[15:05:40] 	 this is also known as simply hiring a contractor
[15:05:53] 	 anyway, i'm not saying we should do it, just an idea. i don't know that much about other bounty programs
[15:05:59] 	 they suck, basically
[15:06:03] 	 jeremyb - right; there are some websites that do that, and actually people tried to use that model for some improvements to Semantic MediaWiki, in 2008 or so, but it didn't work - there weren't enough money-offerers.
[15:06:17] 	 I think the website we tried using was cofundos.org.
[15:06:30] 	 How to find  namspace in local/mediawiki?
[15:06:37] 	 Ah, looks like it doesn't exist any more.
[15:06:55] 	 wiki discussion about extension funding with feedback from WMF counsel and staff - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:WikiProject_Extensions/Ideas
[15:06:56] 	 !namespace | potter 
[15:06:56] 	 potter: See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Namespaces for user help and documentation, and http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Namespace for administration. For adding namespaces, see !extranamespace
[15:07:15] 	 what do you mean by "!namespace"
[15:07:57] 	 potter: we have a bot in this channel which we can activate to give the answers to certain FAQs.  I use the ! syntax to activate it
[15:08:07] 	 potter: see what mw-bot just said to you :-)
[15:08:13] 	 oh ok
[15:08:14] 	 yeah
[15:08:22] 	 awesome
[15:08:46] 	 you can private-query with the bot by saying /query mw-bot
[15:08:49] 	 on its own line in IRC
[15:09:01] 	 potter: will you be at any upcoming MediaWiki developers' meetings?
[15:09:10] 	 potter: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_developer_meetings
[15:09:32] 	 varnent - well, in my experience the only reliable way to get funding for open-source development is via the consulting model.
[15:09:34] 	 i dont know about that.. i m still a newbie.would be very glad to come
[15:09:51] 	 potter: then you should come. There's one in Pune next month.
[15:10:21] 	 pune .. oh live far and i have my college running :(
[15:10:29] 	 sry
[15:10:37] 	 potter: what city?  
[15:10:42] 	 Chennai
[15:10:47] 	 Yaron: maybe something like a two-way bounty board so developers could post what they'd be interested/willing to develop and allow 3rd party wikis to sponsor the development
[15:10:48] 	 varnent - i.e., you do work for a client, and as part of that, it turns out that creating or improving an extension is necessary.
[15:10:52] 	 potter: check that list of upcoming meetings :-)
[15:11:10] 	 varnent - it sounds good in theory, definitely; I've just never seen it work.
[15:11:18] 	 ok
[15:11:21] * sumanah  agrees with Yaron 
[15:11:33] 	 and my question on namespace was that , how can i find namespace in *my* local wiki
[15:11:43] 	 Yaron: that's generally the model I've used as well :) - clients needs lead to extension development - but I think that doesn't necessarily help the broader MediaWiki world
[15:12:03] 	 varnent: also, the incentivization of developers through money invariably makes all the other volunteers wonder whether they should insist on being paid for their effort as well; it is demoralizing
[15:12:17] 	 Yeah, I agree with that.
[15:12:52] 	 Yuvipanda: looks like you have another participant to recruit for the upcoming Chennai meetup :-) (potter)
[15:13:09] 	 varnent - well, there have definitely been extensions we've created for clients that have then been used by a bunch of other people.
[15:13:14] 	 (unless you two already know each other)
[15:13:23] 	 sumanah: well - to be honest - that's kind of what I feel as well - but I also recognize it's becoming common place within other open source projects - and it's a difficult topic to dodge - hence why I'm trying to navigate the ideas around it  :)  Although the conclusion may be this just isn't a good fit right now for the broader Wikimedia community
[15:13:41] 	 varnent - Wikimedia, or MediaWiki?
[15:13:52] 	 well - I suppose depending on your definitions - both
[15:14:43] 	 Erik Möller suggested WMF grants may be available for extensions - but I don't know how much that would help 3rd party wikis
[15:14:50] 	 varnent: there are lots of consulting companies that work with WordPress, Drupal, MediaWiki, Linux, jQuery, lots of open source projects.  There's money sloshing around and that's fine.  If you can show me where there are successful bounty programs in other FLOSS ecosystems, I'll be surprised.
[15:15:49] 	 sumanah: I haven't seen any successful programs like that either - lol - just bouncing around ideas  :)  all of this comes from the donation link request - which does exist in other communities - I think there's a good argument to be made that they either shouldn't be allowed - or that a different approach would work better
[15:16:38] 	 sumanah: that said - I've also seen a lot of things work within one community that had bombed previously within others
[15:16:46] 	 http://mako.cc/writing/funding_volunteers/funding_volunteers.html is freaking seven years old but still thought-provoking
[15:16:57] 	 lol - and that went on to bomb in lots of other places  :)
[15:17:02] 	 @sumanah : my question on namespace was that , how can i find namespace in *my* local wiki
[15:17:03] 	 03reedy *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/extensions/ (8 files in 5 dirs): MFT r95614, r104865, r105908, r107050
[15:17:08] 	 potter: I don't know
[15:17:17] 	 potter: the answer is already given
[15:17:24] 	 potter - what do you mean by a namespace?
[15:17:36] 	 in the documentation provided, go to "identifying namespaces"
[15:17:41] * sumanah  shuts up instead of elaborating as others talk
[15:18:31] 	 i m ot understanding :-|
[15:18:34] 	 sumanah: well - I'd also argue that economic realities altering over time also change certain dynamics (if only temporarily) - perhaps that's based and why it's now present - not sure - but a couple developers indicated they wished it was an option - and I think it's worth considering
[15:19:06] 	 potter - what are you trying to find?
[15:19:18] 	 sumanah: although - it's not likely an avenue I'd ever use personally either - lol - but that could be said about a lot of things that others love  :)
[15:19:32] 	 i want to find the list of namespace in my localwiki
[15:20:01] 	 Ah...
[15:20:37] 	 potter - you can go to Special:AllPages - there will be a dropdown there with all the namespaces.
[15:20:50] 	 ok
[15:21:52] 	 hi sheperson 
[15:22:01] 	 hi
[15:23:30] 	 sheperson: I added a few more items to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_little_bugs just now
[15:23:50] 	 I will take a look now
[15:24:04] 	 thanks for your concern :*
[15:26:24] 	 03(mod) New edit emails should offer a single-diff link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32210  +comment (10Platonides)
[15:26:40] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (3 files in 3 dirs): work on enrollment form
[15:29:56] 	 there's a simple extension I never get to make...
[15:30:07] 	 it could be an easy entrypoint for any of you
[15:30:16] 	 Platonides: that would be great
[15:30:19] 	 Platonides: you could spec it out
[15:31:44] 	 03reedy *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/ (. includes/ includes/OutputPage.php includes/Skin.php): MFT r108345, r108145 without tests/release-notes
[15:32:32] 	 New code comment: Fomafix;  \ border-bottom: 1px dotted black; \  \ should be replaced; 
[15:32:47] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Typo: focused \ + // Update scroll so that page stays focusses on same area; 
[15:34:21] 	 sumanah, I want a Special page
[15:34:30] 	 it can only be used by emailconfirmed users
[15:34:50] 	 (a nice message instead of 'permission denied' if it is not, would be preferable but not required)
[15:35:20] 	 the user presses a button there to be "upgraded", 
[15:35:26] 	 Platonides: if you have time to write up a quick email or Bugzilla entry about that & cc me, I could flesh it out as an assignment for newbies
[15:35:29] 	 and an email is sent to the "gatekeeper"
[15:36:12] 	 also, Platonides, did you mean to mark https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32210 as good and just awaiting the end of the code slush before you commit it?
[15:36:13] 	 ok, I'll move it to bugzilla
[15:37:11] 	 Hi! After saving a page I got Wikimedia Foundation Error: PHP fatal error in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.18/includes/OutputPage.php line 2295: 
[15:37:11] 	  Call to undefined method MediaWiki::getPerformedAction()
[15:37:23] 	 uh? :S
[15:37:37] 	 03reedy *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/includes/ (OutputPage.php Skin.php): Revert r108345 out of r108625, also revert r94131 out of r108622
[15:37:48] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Lots of unescaped messages, and why is this reimplemeting wfParseUrl and wfAppendQuery?; 
[15:37:53] 	 I think Reedy, is taking care of it :)
[15:38:23] 	 in InputboxExtension
[15:38:25] 	  type=search namespaces=Main**,Help ,Category**,File** 
[15:38:25] 	 sumanah, I suppose it could be considered reviewed
[15:39:03] 	 only the last namespaceswhich is marked "**" gets selected
[15:39:15] 	 Reedy: you're taking care of https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32210 ?
[15:39:28] 	 No
[15:41:09] 	 03reedy *  10/branches/REL1_18/phase3/includes/Skin.php: Revert r94131 out of 1.18 from r108620
[15:42:34] 	 03maxsem *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/parser/Parser.php: Made Parser::addTrackingCategory() public to benefit tag hooks/parser functions developers
[15:42:46] 	 anyone experience with long polling and max_execution_time(0)? I am trying to figure out how to run a very long process and keep the client informed
[15:43:03] 	 03(mod) New edit emails should offer a single-diff link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32210  -need-review +reviewed; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[15:43:38] 	 heading off to lunch, back in a few hours.
[15:43:55] 	 sumanah: I just had dinner!
[15:44:30] 	 sheperson: :-) I live on the east coast of North America.  
[15:44:41] 	 03reedy *  10/branches/REL1_18/phase3/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Merge r108145, moved RELEASE-NOTES to 1.18
[15:45:53] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES-1.19: Remove RELEASE-NOTES-1.19 from r108145, moved to 1.18 in r108629
[15:46:13] 	 sheperson, what tz are you in?
[15:46:39] 	 GMT + 3:30 (Tehran)
[15:48:51] 	 03(NEW) Provide extension for easy usergroup gatekeeping by email - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33661 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: [other]; (Platonides)
[15:49:01] 	 03(mod) Provide extension for easy usergroup gatekeeping by email - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33661   +easy (10Platonides)
[15:49:02] 	 03maxsem *  10/trunk/extensions/GeoData/CoordinatesParserFunction.php: Fixed and simplified tracking category
[15:49:13] 	 that was the bug for sumanah :P
[15:49:14] 	 !1.18
[15:49:15] 	 MediaWiki 1.18 is out. Latest version is 1.18.0; ; REL1_18 branched on 18 July 2011 at r92475 ;
[15:49:46] 	 http://packages.qa.debian.org/libm/libmediawiki-perl.html
[15:50:05] 	 "the package is going to disappear unless someone takes it over and reintroduces it into unstable."
[15:50:28] 	 Do we care? ;)
[15:50:35] 	 i wasnt sure:)
[15:50:55] 	 Issue with a home Mediawiki installation.  I'm trying to reference an anchor within the same article.  The article I'm in is "CALL Statement" and the anchor is === Syntax 3 ===  I'm using this and it shows up as a red link but DOES visit the article (but not the anchor) when clicked:  [[CALL Statement#Syntax 3|Syntax 3]]
[15:51:00] 	 i just happened to find that package when looking for unrelated perl modules
[15:51:12] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/Wiki.php:
[15:51:12] 	 Add @since to getPerformedAction, added in r108342
[15:51:12] 	 Caused site errors as not in 1.18 when trying to merge r108345 as a followup to r94131
[15:51:15] 	 and i like to keep Debian packages alive:)
[15:52:36] 	 ^_^ On the other hand, I'm pretty sure most of us wish that a certain debian package would die
[15:54:34] 	 ascheel - a link to a page, within that page, is showing up as a red link?
[15:54:39] 	 Have you saved the page?
[15:54:50] 	 Yaron: the page is saved, yes.
[15:55:00] 	 And it's showing up as a red link?
[15:55:04] 	 Yessir
[15:55:10] 	 That's really weird.
[15:55:33] 	 the link also points to an edit link, but if I click it, it actually reloads the same page I'm already visiting.
[15:55:46] 	 I purged the wiki cache and reloaded without cache in the browser as well.
[15:55:52] 	 ascheel - what happens if you just have [[CALL Statement]] by itself - does that show up as a red link too?
[15:55:59] 	 checking, please stand by
[15:56:59] 	 Yaron: MORE confusing.  Edit the page, remove the anchor and it fixes the OTHER links using the same anchor type (but different referenced anchor)
[15:57:19] 	 That's super-weird.
[15:57:22] 	 Yaron: so I changed it BACK and it works fine.  I'm writing it off.  I'm going with the assumption there was a control character in the link.
[15:57:31] 	 Ah... maybe that's it. Cool.
[15:57:54] 	 it's a relatively old version of MediaWiki anyhow.  haven't updated it in about a year, I don't think.  Thanks for your time, I really appreciate it.
[15:58:19] 	 1.16.0
[15:58:28] 	 ^demon: do you know if there was a change in bugzilla's email defaults recently?
[15:59:43] 	 03(mod) Default checked Namespace for search does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31158  +comment (10Bagariavivek)
[16:00:08] <^demon>	 Um, not afaik.
[16:01:11] 	 03(mod) Default checked Namespace for search does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31158  +comment (10vivekee047)
[16:01:55] 	 ^demon: just asked b/c someone said they weren't getting notified about CC changes
[16:02:23] <^demon>	 I can't find that setting.
[16:02:33] <^demon>	 In the admin panel
[16:02:43] 	 k nm then :)
[16:03:29] 	 i wanted to fix bug "https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31158" ? what is the procedure i should follow?
[16:04:05] 	 potter, attach a patch to the bug
[16:04:08] 	 that'll work :)
[16:04:26] 	 potter: Check out the latest version of Inputbox from SVN, change the code, test it, then use 'svn diff' to generate a patch, and attach it to the bug
[16:04:30] 	 i m doing this for the first time :newbie
[16:04:37] 	 can you tell me exactly what to do
[16:04:44] 	 i mean in brief
[16:06:12] 	 03(mod) Default checked Namespace for search does not work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31158  +comment (10Jaroslaw.W.Tuszynski)
[16:06:43] 	 03maxsem *  10/trunk/extensions/GeoData/ (CoordinatesParserFunction.php tests/TagTest.php): Parse region codes consisting of just country code
[16:06:50] 	 potter, is it a svn checkout?
[16:07:45] 	 03(mod) Provide extension for easy usergroup gatekeeping by email - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33661  (10Reedy)
[16:08:43] 	 @Platonides : what do you mean by "svn check out"?
[16:10:50] 	 potter, it means: did you use SVN to get your MediaWiki sources?
[16:10:58] 	 how did you get the code of the extension that you modified?
[16:11:09] 	 yes
[16:11:38] 	 ok, then if you run svn diff
[16:11:45] 	 you will get the changes in patch format
[16:11:46] 	 i used svn checkout
[16:12:00] 	 actually i have not solved the bug
[16:12:06] 	 save that to a file and upload to the bug
[16:12:16] 	 but i will work onit ..i just started off with mediawiki
[16:12:22] 	 and this will be my first bug
[16:12:23] 	 :)
[16:12:30] 	 oh, well, then you first solve it and only then attach the patch :)
[16:12:53] 	 it's very unlikely you would collide with someone else fixing the same bug
[16:13:12] 	 ok and another basic question
[16:13:25] 	 i have downloaded that extension 
[16:13:43] 	 i have used svn checkout for mediawiki
[16:14:02] 	 so will it come in my svn diff?
[16:14:29] 	 svn diff shows only the changes
[16:14:45] 	 from the folder you are running it
[16:15:08] 	 so if you checked out trunk/ but are now at trunk/phase3/includes/parser
[16:15:17] 	 only changes to files inside parser will be shown
[16:15:20] 	 ??
[16:15:41] 	 you could also pass the files as parameters only changes to those files will show
[16:15:50] 	 do you have a terminal open?
[16:16:05] 	 yeah
[16:16:19] 	 in which folder?
[16:16:27] 	 extension
[16:16:36] 	 extensions
[16:16:57] 	 ok, cd to InputBox
[16:17:09] 	 done
[16:17:17] 	 now run svn diff
[16:17:22] 	 you will probably get no output
[16:17:29] 	 svn: '.' is not a working copy
[16:17:39] 	 you didn't get that with svn
[16:17:53] 	 i didnt get the extension by svn
[16:18:03] 	 but i got mediawiki eithout extensions by svn
[16:18:09] 	 without*
[16:18:14] 	 I see
[16:18:32] 	 but as you are modifying an extension, it's better to get it from svn
[16:18:37] 	 do svn co http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/InputBox
[16:18:43] 	 oh ok
[16:19:23] 	 guillom: apologies, I didn't get your messages. Was on IRC on the phone
[16:20:36] 	 my net is slow and there is proxy problems so it;ll take some time..
[16:21:28] 	 potter: heya
[16:21:42] 	 hey
[16:22:03] 	 @yuvi:i got a proper bug to solve :)
[16:22:14] 	 potter: aha, nice :)
[16:22:16] 	 its not too tuff i guess..
[16:23:11] 	 potter: good luck
[16:23:11] 	 :)
[16:23:26] 	 thanks
[16:24:35] 	 @yuvi : hey ..  what is the way to debug in mediawiki?
[16:24:50] 	 potter, I leave now
[16:24:57] 	 ok 
[16:25:02] 	 i have net proeblems
[16:25:05] 	 pretty much everyone know svn very well  here, in case you have problems
[16:25:10] 	 not able to svn :)
[16:25:27] 	 maybe you have a fascist proxy
[16:25:28] 	 @Platonides : ok thanks a lot
[16:25:39] 	 some of them don't like WebDAV commands
[16:25:39] 	 lol
[16:25:49] 	 :)
[16:26:04] 	 yeah .. SAD
[16:27:34] 	 potter: depends on person to person
[16:27:49] 	 potter: I usually just use var_dump :P
[16:27:55] 	 though some people make use of the actual log functions
[16:28:47] 	 potter: I use firephp (:
[16:28:51] 	 potter: I use var_dump.
[16:28:52] 	 :D
[16:28:57] 	 hectorh30: firephp? link?
[16:29:17] 	 03(mod) User::idFromName should not do a database query for invalid usernames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33572  normal->15enhancement (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:29:29] 	 yuvipanda: firephp.org
[16:29:31] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android app hardware search button doesn't highlight - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33573  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:29:32] 	 $wgDebugToolbar = true;
[16:29:42] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android app clear button doesn't clear text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33574  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:30:24] 	 potter: you've a few options now :)
[16:30:45] 	 yeah :)
[16:30:46] 	 yuvipanda: extension for firebug.. then you use their library into the php and get array details, simple text and maybe other things
[16:30:54] 	 wah, cool!
[16:31:14] 	 with something like $fire->log($myarray)
[16:31:17] 	 (:
[16:31:33] 	 MWDebug does that
[16:31:39] 	 Not arrays but that's coming
[16:32:00] 	 johnduhart: didn't know that, but thanks
[16:32:05] 	 @hectorh30 :Thats awesome?
[16:32:19] 	 true, I think that was checked in a few weeks ago?
[16:32:23] 	 03(mod) Magic words localization per the viewing project instead of source - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33576  normal->15enhancement (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:33:11] 	 potter: indeed, i really suggest you try it out
[16:33:21] 	 yeah i will try that out
[16:33:26] 	 installing it now
[16:33:50] 	 03(mod) several bugs on deployment test site for 1.19 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33578  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:34:58] 	 03(mod) Strange inconsistent dateformat in #time: function - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33579  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:36:10] 	 Hello. Anybody who knows what happend with mediawiki.html RL-module in MW 1.19 and how to deal correctly with this change?
[16:36:26] 	 *happened
[16:40:28] 	 03(mod) include ref name references anywhere in an article but don't display them unless referenced elsewhere - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33580  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:42:39] 	 03(mod) Feature request: Wildcard for matching multiple namespaces by partial name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31158  normal->15enhancement; summary (10Krinkle)
[16:44:00] 	 rillke: What change?
[16:44:23] 	 RoanKattouw: http://commons.wikimedia.deployment.wmflabs.org
[16:45:02] 	 Error: Unknown dependency: mediawiki.html
[16:45:08] 	 03(mod) Make it possible to automatically add pages to watchlist when adding a new section - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33582  normal->15enhancement (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:45:15] 	 Oh, bah
[16:45:19] 	 Was mw.html ever a separate module?
[16:45:25] 	 It's in the mediawiki module now, I think
[16:45:53] 	 Yes, mw.html is now part of the standard mw module
[16:46:17] 	 RoanKattouw: So it wrong to do mw.loader.using('mediawiki.html' ... now
[16:46:20] 	 03(mod) Multiple namespaces marked as default (**) should all be used instead of just one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31158  15enhancement->normal; summary (10Krinkle)
[16:46:26] 	 Yeah, looking into it
[16:47:17] 	 rillke: That's a programmer error on the part of whoever wrote that using() call
[16:47:40] 	 mw.html might have been a separate module once upon a time, but AFAICT that's never been the case in any released version of MediaWiki
[16:47:55] 	 www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Default_modules
[16:48:03] 	 I just looked there.
[16:48:04] 	 what does this mean  ?https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33582  normal->enhancement
[16:48:26] 	 Hmm, then I guess the documentation is wrong
[16:48:39] 	 potter: It means someone changed the severity from 'normal' to 'enhancement'
[16:48:50] 	 03(mod) Search namespaces from [[Special:Preferences]] are ignored - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33583  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:48:55] 	 what does that mean?
[16:49:25] 	 RoanKattouw: In MW 1.18 on Commons RL did not complain doing so. But it is good to know. Thanks.
[16:49:37] 	 rillke: Nowhere does it say it's a separate module. None of those things (mw.config, mw.user) are, in fact. If you feel it's unclear, it's a wiki, edit it ;)
[16:50:03] 	 Yeah 1.18 had some bugs in dealing with nonexistent modules
[16:51:01] 	 RoanKattouw: Is there a list of modules (like mw.util) I have to explicitly load?
[16:51:36] 	 03(mod) Black Bar when using Firefox - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33586  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:51:41] 	 It is just confusing if you do not know what's right.
[16:51:42] 	 rillke: Maybe there should be a documentation page, but the most complete overview of available modules is http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/resources/Resources.php?view=markup
[16:51:56] 	 Yeah, I apologize for not having clearer documentation
[16:52:27] 	 03(mod) Flagged Reviews on als.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33588  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:52:33] 	 03(mod) Page deletions and blocks aren't showing up on watchlists on enwiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33591  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:52:48] 	 Every single module in MediaWiki core is listed there, along with dependency information and everything else that RL needs to know about the module
[16:52:52] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/includes/ (5 files): work on org and course status
[16:52:54] 	 03(mod) please include autopatrolled right inside patroller for he.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33592  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:53:08] 	 RoanKattouw: Thanks. This helps.
[16:57:52] 	 03(mod) inArray's use of strict equals in es.ContentView.js may be inappropriate (FIX attached) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33596  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:57:55] 	 03(mod) font-size of  output too small - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26204  +comment (10krinklemail)
[16:58:02] 	 03catrope *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/api/ApiViewFeedbackArticleFeedbackv5.php: Fix double-escaping pointed out in r108506 CR.
[16:58:47] 	 New code comment: Catrope; Fixed in r108635.; 
[16:59:06] 	 03(mod) When looking for who is in a global group, it doesn't show other groups the user's in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33598  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:59:15] 	 03(mod) Update on-wiki documentation of database layout for 1.19 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33637  summary (10Krinkle)
[17:03:09] 	 Ugh, RAID on servers takes a long time to load
[17:03:50] 	 On https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/1.19 it is said that RL2.0 will be used but then https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RL/V2SPEC are not up-to-date? Are there now Shared gadgets?
[17:06:57] 	 I don't think RL2 got merged into trunk
[17:06:59] 	 RoanKattouw?
[17:07:07] 	 No, it didn't
[17:07:12] 	 RL2 will not be in 1.19, not fully anyway
[17:07:18] 	 Some core support for RL2 will be
[17:08:00] 	 Ah. Thx.
[17:08:26] 	 oh yay, your adding a new version of ResourceLoader, whats that going to break this time? :) People are only just getting round to updating for 1.18 ^.^
[17:10:17] 	 hello everyone
[17:10:21] 	 Lcawte: :/
[17:10:37] 	 03(mod) list=allusers with auprop=group throws a MWException at user:%95 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33602  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[17:10:52] 	 Lcawte: we're having a chat session to help folks prepare extensions:  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:WikiProject_Extensions/MediaWiki_Workshops#Upcoming:_Preparing_extensions_for_MediaWiki_1.19
[17:10:55] 	 I am using the htmlet extension for creating a customized homepage for my project. This is required for the company so I need to work out the issues.
[17:11:03] 	 varnent: is it tomorrow?
[17:11:12] 	 Friday
[17:11:19] 	 basically the page it loads is a php file of the real homepage, this takes up to 2 seconds to load. The page by itself loads instantly
[17:11:24] 	 htmlets must be the problem I think
[17:11:27] 	 any ideas?
[17:11:28] 	  I'll probably email out a reminder today...
[17:11:31] 	 varnent: nice, I'll pass that round if I know of anyone it'll benefit :) (I don't write my own extensions currently)
[17:11:47] 	 03catrope *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/SpecialArticleFeedbackv5.php: Fix some more double escaping in r108506
[17:12:10] 	 Lcawte: some discussion of a workshop for ResourceLoader in the future - maybe a separate one for sysadmins?
[17:12:23] 	 Lcawte: feel free to share far and wide  :)
[17:12:47] 	 New code comment: Hashar; Will bring that to wikitech-l since I think this is broken and should not be merged. I already expos; 
[17:13:36] 	 03(mod) Upload Wizard crashes Safari when using long description texts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33607  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[17:13:41] 	 03daniel *  10/trunk/extensions/Lockdown/Lockdown.php: generate meaningful permission error by using getUserPermissionsErrors hook instead of userCan
[17:14:43] 	 Hmm, did anyone review my vanillarizing patch to that Wikia extension?
[17:14:47] 	 03daniel *  10/trunk/extensions/Lockdown/Lockdown.php: removed leftover debug cruft
[17:16:58] 	 03daniel *  10/trunk/extensions/Lockdown/Lockdown.php: allow false as well as an empty array as a value in
[17:18:02] 	 I've a problem with safe_mode. Is put safe_mode=off will work?
[17:19:04] 	 If you can turn it off it's reccommended
[17:19:06] 	 !safemode
[17:19:06] 	 safe_mode is an ill-concieved, broken-by-design setting in PHP that is supposed to make broken scripts safe. It was deprecated in PHP5. MediaWiki can run with safe_mode enabled, but many of the advanced features will not work or need additional configuration (image thumbnailing using ImageMagick, for example). See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Safe_mode for more information.
[17:22:07] 	 Reedy, nop i can't
[17:22:08] 	 :p
[17:22:27] 	 so i will add this   safe_mode = Off
[17:25:16] 	 03(mod) NewUserMessage extensions breaks login - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33609  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[17:27:16] 	 03(mod) IndexPager::reallyDoQuery (BlockListPager) when searching for blocked IP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33612  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[17:34:05] 	 03daniel *  10/trunk/extensions/Lockdown/Lockdown.php: show informative error on forbidden action, by throwing a PermissionError
[17:35:46] 	 03(mod) ProofreadPage image width on edit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33613  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[17:37:21] 	 03(mod) $wgUseCategoryBrowser generates many dupes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33614   +need-review +patch; +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[17:38:03] 	 03(mod) Intermittent off-by-one in "Read in..." language selection on ICS (Android 4.0) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33615  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[17:38:04] 	 03daniel *  10/trunk/extensions/Lockdown/Lockdown.php: apply lockdown to all actions on special pages (why not?\!)
[17:38:33] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android app near by should use smaller summary text boxes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33616  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[17:38:46] 	 03(NEW) Change project namespace for lb.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33662 normal; Wikimedia: Language setup; (hercule.wikipedia)
[17:40:15] 	 03(mod) [Regression] Cannot navigate among links in a page using arrow keys anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33618  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[17:40:49] 	 03(mod) SwiftMedia's rewrite prohibits images and thumbnails with the string AUTH in the filename - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33620  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[17:41:03] 	 New code comment: MaxSem; I need this revision and its friend r102861 backported to release branch because FeaturedFeeds (ab)u; 
[17:41:25] 	 03(mod) inArray's use of strict equals in es.ContentView.js may be inappropriate (FIX attached) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33596  +comment (10acocaracha)
[17:45:35] 	 salam
[17:46:38] 	 hello
[17:48:00] 	 navid, hi
[17:48:14] 	 i have a problem 
[17:48:32] 	 New code comment: Hashar; See http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-January/057501.html; 
[17:48:43] 	 to connect my bot in wiki
[17:49:41] 	 when i type login.py in MyBotCMD
[17:49:47] 	 and type my password
[17:50:06] 	 i watch this message
[17:50:48] 	 could not open http://fa.wikipedia.org/w/api.php maybe the server or your connection is down
[17:50:54] 	 what i should do?
[17:51:49] 	 I haveno idea what is MyBotCMD
[17:52:30] 	 MyBotCMd is a file for managment bot
[17:52:52] 	 for login
[17:52:55] 	 and etc
[17:52:58] 	 bot
[17:53:13] 	 03(NEW) failure of PHPUnit tests for revision 108474 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33663 normal; MediaWiki: Watchlist; (dnessett)
[17:53:15] 	 We don't provide tech support for random wiki tools
[17:53:33] 	 New code comment: Catrope; This is OK, but let's disable the concurrency stuff for now.; 
[17:54:18] 	 03(mod) failure of PHPUnit tests for revision 108474 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33663  +comment (10dnessett)
[17:57:06] 	 03rmoen *  10/trunk/extensions/MoodBar/ (2 files in 2 dirs): follow up to concurrency tool revert, remove dependant code. follow up r108600
[17:58:27] 	 03(mod) "Save page" should be re-enabled after the page is deleted from saved pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33621  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[17:58:47] 	 New code comment: Santhosh.thottingal; r108600 is not related to this. It is webfonts extension fix.; 
[17:58:53] 	 03(mod) Strings in the app that are not translatable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33624  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:00:57] 	 03rmoen *  10/trunk/phase3/resources/ (Resources.php jquery/jquery.concurrency.js): remove concurrency resource per revert. follow up r108600
[18:01:24] 	 03(mod) Double save of main page causes crash - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33625  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:01:36] 	 03(mod) Unable to save a page in Wikipedia namespaces on zhwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33626  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:01:42] 	 03(mod) When saving a page normalize the page title first - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33627  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:01:52] 	 03(mod) Searching for "#" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33628  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:03:49] 	 14(INVALID) Extraneous 'John Locke Essay' text appearing in article. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33629  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:04:56] 	 03(mod) categorylink being dependant on {{REVISIONYEAR}} and friends doesn't work properly, sometimes. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33632  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:05:32] 	 03(mod) Math table doesn't have a PK - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33638  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:06:25] 	 03(mod) failure of PHPUnit tests for revision 108474 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33663   +postgresql (10Reedy)
[18:06:50] 	 potter: pong
[18:07:27] 	 i solved the bug
[18:07:35] 	 03(mod) Language Selector dropdown on Special:WebFonts page doesnt load using WebFont - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33639  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:07:42] 	 potter: type my name and hit 'tab'
[18:07:45] 	 will autocomplete
[18:07:51] 	 bug = https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31158
[18:08:05] 	 yuvipanda_: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31158
[18:08:09] 	 03(mod) failure of PHPUnit tests for revision 108474 under postgres - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33663  summary; +comment (10Reedy)
[18:08:11] 	 yeah, that's better :D
[18:08:17] 	 New code comment: Robmoen; oops, follow up to r108601; 
[18:08:21] 	 potter: cool!
[18:08:22] 	 submit a patch?
[18:08:32] 	 yuvipanda_: did the red color come?
[18:08:47] 	 potter: when you mentioned my name?
[18:09:00] 	 03(mod) drop $wgUseSiteJs global - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33641  normal->15enhancement (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:09:10] 	 yuvipanda_: ? i didnt get u
[18:09:16] 	 potter: what 'red' color?
[18:09:37] 	 yuvipanda_: pack .. nothing :)
[18:09:44] 	 potter: hh, ok
[18:10:01] 	 yuvipanda_: i have not yet submited the patch .. i have to test it little more..
[18:10:10] 	 yuvipanda_: like that also only two line change :/
[18:10:22] 	 potter: that's okay! 
[18:10:39] 	 one of my friends' first patch was a simple one liner. But it helped him understand the process
[18:10:42] 	 that's the primary thing
[18:10:44] 	 :)
[18:10:49] 	 yuvipanda_: maybe..decent for the first fix
[18:10:58] 	 potter: true!
[18:11:45] 	 yuvipanda_: net may go any time.Bye
[18:11:53] 	 potter: in insti hostel?
[18:12:01] 	 yuvipanda_: yeah
[18:12:10] 	 potter: net goes down? o_O
[18:12:43] 	 yuvipanda_: yeah around 12.thses guys are cuppers
[18:13:10] 	 potter: it's getting worse every day. sigh
[18:13:18] 	 potter: anyway, looking forward to the patch :P
[18:13:28] 	 yuvipanda_: what is getting worse?
[18:13:42] 	 potter: the insti rules?
[18:14:04] 	 afaik there was no 'internet off' rule a few years ago
[18:14:09] 	 yuvipanda_: not actually.this was there from long
[18:14:23] 	 potter: do you know kstar, vimzard?
[18:14:32] 	 they never really went offline
[18:15:24] 	 yuvipanda_: oh ok 
[18:15:47] 	 yuvipanda_: vimzard -slinky? kstar ??
[18:15:55] 	 potter: yes, slinky
[18:15:59] 	 kstar is akarsh
[18:16:02] 	 vimzard's senior
[18:16:09] 	 yuvipanda_: who is kstar?kashyap??
[18:17:10] 	 yuvipanda_: who is Kstar?
[18:17:21] 	 03(mod) Search namespaces from [[Special:Preferences]] are ignored - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33583  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:17:24] 	 potter: kstar is akarsh. not kashyap
[18:17:40] 	 03(mod) $wgUseCategoryBrowser generates many dupes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33614  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:17:52] 	 yuvipanda_: i dont know him .is he still there in insti?
[18:18:03] 	 yuvipanda_: or he graduated?
[18:18:04] 	 potter: nope
[18:18:13] 	 potter: btw, you might want to come on #chennai-hackers
[18:18:21] 	 this discussion is much more on-topic there
[18:18:22] 	 :)
[18:18:30] 	 yuvipanda_: yeah sure march right?
[18:18:40] 	 err, march?
[18:18:40] 	 03(mod) Please lock *.labs.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33644   +shell (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:18:48] 	 03(mod) "Bad title" error page returns HTTP 200 OK instead of an error code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33646  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:19:24] 	 yuvipanda_: i thought you were speaking of marathog .. my bad
[18:19:43] 	 potter: #chennai-hackers is another IRC channel, just like this one
[18:19:50] 	 with a more 'chennai' centric focus
[18:20:09] 	 yuvipanda_: i didnt see # so thought it is some meeting
[18:20:12] 	 03(mod) Translate popups with insufficient height - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33647  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:20:15] 	 :)
[18:20:30] 	 03(mod) The mobile site and the mobile app don't use WebFonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33648  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:20:32] 	 yuvipanda_: as night goes my brain works less :/
[18:20:40] 	 heh
[18:21:02] 	 yuvipanda_: ok then cya.. bye
[18:21:09] 	 potter: cya soon
[18:23:48] 	 03(mod) The mobile site and the mobile app don't use WebFonts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33648  +comment (10brion)
[18:33:18] 	 03(FIXED) SwiftMedia URL rewrites and container names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33286  +comment (10Aaron Schulz)
[18:33:24] 	 03(NEW) RTL language home pages rendering in LTR - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33664 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: android; (philinje)
[18:33:48] 	 03(mod) RTL language home pages rendering in LTR - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33664  (10Phil Chang)
[18:33:51] 	 03(mod) Android App 1.0 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31447  (10Phil Chang)
[18:35:59] 	 03siebrand *  10/branches/REL1_17/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Backport compatible updates from trunk.
[18:38:14] 	 03(mod) Internet Explorer mobile browser displays error for Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33649  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:38:28] 	 03siebrand *  10/branches/REL1_17/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Backport compatible updates from trunk.
[18:38:45] 	 03(mod) JqueryMsg parser should support templates without replacements - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33653  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:39:16] 	 03(mod) The search box should lose focus when a Go action is performed. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33656  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:41:04] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (5 files in 3 dirs): add term/course control added to special course/institution
[18:41:10] 	 03siebrand *  10/branches/REL1_17/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesEn.php: Fix syntax error in r108645.
[18:44:58] 	 03preilly *  10/trunk/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess/ZeroRatedMobileAccess.body.php: use wfAppendQuery fix for r107649 c29362
[18:45:08] 	 03(mod) Add support for GRAMMAR in javascript message parsing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33658  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:45:19] 	 03(mod) Uncaught ReferenceError: ProtectionForm is not defined - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33660  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:45:32] 	 Nikerabbit: can you take a look at *  /trunk/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess/ZeroRatedMobileAccess.body.php: use wfAppendQuery fix for r107649 c29362
[18:45:44] 	 Nikerabbit: if you've got the spare cycles that is…. :)
[18:46:21] 	 03(NEW) Line spacing in Featured Article paragraph too cramped - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33665 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: generic; (philinje)
[18:46:24] 	 03(mod) Change project namespace for lb.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33662   +shell; +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:46:42] 	 03(mod) Add support for GRAMMAR in javascript message parsing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33658   +need-review; +comment (10Siebrand)
[18:46:44] 	 03(mod) failure of PHPUnit tests for revision 108474 under postgres - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33663  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:47:18] 	 03(mod) Line spacing in Featured Article paragraph too cramped - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33665  (10Phil Chang)
[18:48:55] 	 03(mod) DigiCert High Assurance EV Root CA is not trusted by IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33657   +ops; +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:49:20] 	 03(mod) RTL language home pages rendering in LTR - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33664  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:49:26] 	 preilly: looks good to me
[18:49:54] 	 Nikerabbit: can you mark it resolved (if it is)
[18:50:00] 	 Nikerabbit: also, I've got a question about http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/108538#c29341
[18:50:20] 	 03(mod) Line spacing in Featured Article paragraph too cramped - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33665  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:50:37] 	 03siebrand *  10/trunk/extensions/TweetANew/TweetANew.i18n.php: Remove double space and trailing whitespace.
[18:50:52] 	 03(mod) DigiCert High Assurance EV Root CA is not trusted by IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33657  +comment (10rlane32)
[18:50:54] 	 Nikerabbit: can you explain this statement to me, "This doesn't look like a good idea, the output generated by Html:: functions depends on some configuration variables."
[18:51:06] 	 preilly: you could build the contents first, check if that is empty and then wrap it in the tags if it isn't
[18:51:44] 	 just see this example with $wgHtml5 on
[18:51:44] 	 > echo Html::element( 'div', array( 'lang' => 'en' ) );
[18:51:44] 	 

[18:51:45] 	 Nikerabbit: okay, makes sense — I'll switch to that
[18:52:15] 	 no quotes, you see
[18:52:21] 	 Nikerabbit: yeah, got it
[18:52:28] 	 Nikerabbit: Do you know why on http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Version  "Translate (Version 2012-01-09)" links to https and SiteMatrix (Version 1.1) to http ?
[18:52:53] 	 http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/extensions/Translate/Translate.php?revision=100004&view=markup&pathrev=107977#l20
[18:52:54] 	 http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/extensions/SiteMatrix/SiteMatrix.php?revision=97502&view=markup&pathrev=107972#l14
[18:52:57] 	 both have http in the source
[18:53:25] 	 Most are showing http
[18:53:31] 	 even when on ssh
[18:53:33] 	 *ssl
[18:53:49] 	 yes, they're hardcoded. That's another thing, but why is the Translate one https ?
[18:53:58] 	 03rmoen *  10/trunk/extensions/MoodBar/ (2 files in 2 dirs): apply clearfix elements to feedback dashboard filters, tweak leaderboard markup for IE
[18:54:22] 	 ah, the rev number mw links to is outdated
[18:54:32] 	 In latest 1.18wmf1 rev it does say https : http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/extensions/Translate/Translate.php?revision=108469&view=markup
[18:54:36] 	 yugh
[18:55:03] 	 someone has the tools to make them prot-rel en mass on trunk/extensions ? (not sure if this url is used in other contexts)
[18:55:14] 	 03(mod) RTL language home pages rendering in LTR - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33664  +comment (10tfinc)
[18:55:34] 	 wgExtensionCredits …. 'url' … http(s)://(www.)mediawiki.org -> //www.mediawiki.org
[18:57:30] 	 03preilly *  10/trunk/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess/ZeroRatedMobileAccess.body.php: fix for r108538 c29341
[18:57:39] 	 Krinkle: noo idea
[18:57:44] 	 Nikerabbit: can you peek at *  /trunk/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess/ZeroRatedMobileAccess.body.php: fix for r108538 c29341
[18:57:48] 	 03(mod) DigiCert High Assurance EV Root CA is not trusted by IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33657  +comment (10mah)
[18:57:52] 	 someone changed it I assume
[19:02:55] 	 Nikerabbit: changed what? The certificate?
[19:03:29] 	 that was to krinkle
[19:03:40] 	 Nikerabbit: oh, I see — sorry
[19:03:41] 	 Krinkle: saw my bug report about JS on action=protect?
[19:03:46] 	 Nikerabbit: Yes
[19:04:26] 	 Nikerabbit: My 2-3 hours is already booked for today though, so can't help you now. Feel free to assign to me though, I'll check it out later. I have some thoughts on it already, but can't investigate now
[19:04:43] 	 s/booked/planned
[19:04:59] 	 Nikerabbit: can this http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/107649 be marked resolved now?
[19:05:43] 	 03(mod) DigiCert High Assurance EV Root CA is not trusted by IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33657  +comment (10mah)
[19:05:46] 	 03(mod) failure of PHPUnit tests for revision 108474 under postgres - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33663  +comment (10Chad H.)
[19:07:51] 	 Krinkle: I tried to fix but it wasn't so easy
[19:08:08] 	 something like documenty.ready wrapper perhaps
[19:08:27] 	 03(mod) Fix Wikipedia icon in Android app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33013  +comment (10brion)
[19:08:29] 	 No, document ready can't solve that. if it does, it's still a concurrency/race condition
[19:08:51] 	 if a variable isn't there when it should, the problem is dependencies and/or load order.
[19:09:05] 	 preilly: I haven't reviewed the whole commit in detail
[19:09:14] 	 Nikerabbit: okay
[19:09:17] 	 document ready wrapper can obfuscate the problem, but it'll strike back eventually
[19:09:21] 	 Krinkle: it adds inline script to head
[19:09:27] 	 or somewhere
[19:09:30] 	 04(REOPENED) RSS feed for watchlist throws fatal error when underlying db is postgres - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28070  +comment (10Dan Nessett)
[19:09:53] 	 Nikerabbit: I don't know right now, but then it should probably become a module, or as last resort: inline dependencies with mw.loader.using
[19:10:06] 	 Nikerabbit: but, you can mark http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/108648 ok right?
[19:12:32] 	 03raymond *  10/trunk/translatewiki/MediaWiki/mediawiki-defines.txt: r108563: Make message optinal for translate
[19:12:42] 	 03(FIXED) RSS feed for watchlist throws fatal error when underlying db is postgres - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28070  +comment (10Reedy)
[19:13:37] 	 03(FIXED) Special:PageTranslation shouldn't have edit section links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33642  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[19:15:36] 	 03siebrand *  10/branches/REL1_18/phase3/languages/messages/ (153 files):
[19:15:36] 	 Localisation updates from translatewiki.net
[19:15:36] 	 * Backport compatible translations to REL1_18.
[19:16:54] 	 Nikerabbit: thanks!
[19:18:53] 	 03siebrand *  10/branches/REL1_17/phase3/languages/messages/ (163 files):
[19:18:53] 	 Localisation updates from translatewiki.net
[19:18:54] 	 * Backport compatible translations to REL1_17.
[19:19:18] 	 03(mod) Special:FormEdit/form/page?redlink=1 should redirect to page if page exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33495  summary; +comment (10Yaron Koren)
[19:22:17] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Maybe add a note that this method is public since 1.19?; 
[19:22:51] 	 03(NEW) Links in Special:Log/translationreview pointing to bad titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33666 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (wmdferg)
[19:23:54] 	 03raymond *  10/trunk/translatewiki/MediaWiki/ (WikimediaAgg.yaml mediawiki-defines.txt): r108587: Register extension for translatewiki.net. Enabled on WMF cluster already.
[19:24:02] 	 03ialex *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: Whitespaces fixes only, no functional changes.
[19:26:52] 	 03(mod) Links in Special:Log/translationreview pointing to bad titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33666  +comment (10Siebrand)
[19:27:49] 	 03catrope *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ (16 files in 6 dirs): 1.18wmf1: Update ArticleFeedback to trunk state
[19:29:54] 	 03raymond *  10/trunk/translatewiki/MediaWiki/WikimediaAgg.yaml: r108172: Enabled on the WMF cluster
[19:30:35] 	 sumanah: ping
[19:31:42] 	 hi varnent 
[19:32:16] 	 sumanah: got approval for presence at Creating Change - SF Hackathon was no go (not a surprise obviously) - so yay  :)
[19:32:33] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Follow up to r108646; fixed call to method of wrong class and incorrect casting
[19:33:23] 	 varnent: congrats on the CC approval
[19:34:32] 	 sumanah: thanks!  should I email follow-up with you about any materials we should consider having and maybe helping with some of the wording for use in the conference program?  occurs to me I didn't ask them who to run any wording by...
[19:35:09] 	 varnent: remind me, what sort of MediaWiki or Wikimedia-related thing are you thinking of doing in the CC program?
[19:36:24] 	 sumanah: a vendor booth and 1.5 hour meet-up (of some sort) during the conference - DC chapter working to help staff booth, be present, etc.
[19:36:47] 	 varnent: ah, so you're working with aude et al.?
[19:37:16] 	 03(mod) RTL language home pages rendering in LTR - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33664  +comment (10brion)
[19:37:46] 	 sumanah: we're chatting in northeast room right now  :)    -   we already sent out an email to the listserv (aude was feeling optimistic this morning) and have elaborated on why WMF wants to be there (some initial confusion that it was political only)
[19:38:17] 	 varnent: when you say WMF -- is someone from the Foundation going to be there?
[19:38:53] 	 varnent: perhaps you mean "why Wikimedia wants to be there" (the movement in general)
[19:39:00] 	 varnent: or "WMDC" (the chapter)
[19:39:02] 	 yes - sorry - still working on that  :)
[19:39:13] 	 03nikerabbit *  10/trunk/ (7 files in 5 dirs):
[19:39:13] 	 Get rid of pipe symbol in translatable page group ids.
[19:39:13] 	 They cause too many problems, like bug 33666
[19:39:17] * varnent  too acronym oriented and gets in trouble on this one
[19:39:34] 	 WM, WMF, MW, WP :D
[19:40:32] 	 Reedy: my absolute favorite was when I got an email with the subject: "Problem with MSM coverage of CDC report on MSM" - which was actually about the mainstream media's coverage of a report on men who have sex with men (MSM) - yeah..it was an interesting thread
[19:40:47] 	 03(FIXED) Links in Special:Log/translationreview pointing to bad titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33666  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[19:40:56] 	 not to mention those abbrevations together form a megapalindrome
[19:41:32] 	 New code comment: Happy-melon; What's wrong with global $wgFoo; ... if( $wgFoo )?? It works for every other global va; 
[19:42:01] 	 One more lovely discussion on wikitech :)
[19:42:40] 	 varnent: so, MediaWiki materials.  https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki_flyer_20111116_color.pdf
[19:43:10] 	 varnent: if you want to edit the source SVG file, since the flyer is a little out of date (the music tool is well on its way with the Score extension), you can edit https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki_flyer_20111116_color.svg
[19:43:32] 	 New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; Sure. Feel free to change it if you think that's better. I think having it in one place is clearer a; 
[19:44:07] 	 sumanah: that works
[19:44:31] 	 varnent: also see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Sumanah/TechVolunteersCanDo and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Top_ten_things_technical_volunteers.pdf
[19:45:25] * varnent  nods
[19:46:01] 	 Sending        includes/Wiki.php
[19:46:01] 	 Transmitting file data .svn: Commit failed (details follow):
[19:46:01] 	 svn: Commit blocked by pre-commit hook (exit code 1) with output:
[19:46:01] 	 PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20090626/curl.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20090626/curl.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0
[19:46:10] 	 ... plus many more lines
[19:46:39] 	 ...
[19:46:45] 	 Did someone mess up formey?
[19:46:52] 	 ^demon:  ---^^
[19:46:56] 	 varnent: I assume mostly you'll be doing Wikimedia content outreach, WikiProject LGBT stuff, and so on?  with MediaWiki software outreach as a side project?
[19:46:57] 	 03(mod) RSS feed for watchlist throws fatal error when underlying db is postgres - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28070  +comment (10dnessett)
[19:46:59] <^demon>	 Haven't touched it.
[19:47:10] 	 varnent: please feel free to give out my name and email liberally (they are on the flyer)
[19:47:26] 	 03nikerabbit *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/Wiki.php: Apparently we can commit code that doesn't compile but I am not allowed to have commit summary as "){} -> ) {}"
[19:47:36] 	 hahaha
[19:47:52] 	 Most probably, puppet has
[19:47:53] <^demon>	 Dunno why the linting check doesn't work ;-)
[19:48:00] 	 sumanah: excellent - will do - I can pass out biz cards if you want to send some along
[19:48:05] <^demon>	 Obviously the [a-z]+ on commit summaries does ;-)
[19:48:16] 	 ^demon: which dies with horrible error messages
[19:48:18] 	 Well if it's spitting errors about curl.so at users ....
[19:48:42] <^demon>	 I don't think we even need curl on formey.
[19:48:46] <^demon>	 Wonder what php.ini looks like.
[19:49:00] 	 03gwicke *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/parser/ (5 files):
[19:49:00] 	 Results of early template expansion debugging. Still disabled by default, but
[19:49:00] 	 getting closer.
[19:49:02] 	 http://pastebin.com/g2xs58Gu
[19:49:09] 	 sumanah: yeah - I imagine editor recruitment, project awareness, chapter recruitment, a bit of "give of your money" a tad of "get to wikimania" and some give us your brain efforts with known geeks (fureigh will probably be present)
[19:49:24] 	 *give us your money
[19:49:41] 	 *give of your money just sounds too churchy  :)
[19:49:52] 	 ^demon: It's failing to load /all/ libs, probably a bad path
[19:49:56] 	 varnent: if you don't mind, I'd rather not send you my biz cards when the flyers would do just as well
[19:50:11] <^demon>	 RoanKattouw: That's happened before. 2006xxxx vs. 2009xxxx, iirc.
[19:50:58] 	 sumanah: I don't mind at all  :)  is there a preferred printing method?  just update the flyer and print at the nearby Kinkos? (they will never be FedEx Office to me..)
[19:51:02] 	 03(FIXED) RTL language home pages rendering in LTR - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33664  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[19:51:27] <^demon>	 RoanKattouw: I don't have permissions on /var/lib/php5, can't investigate :(
[19:51:36] 	 varnent: that sounds fine to me, we are not terribly official
[19:51:44] 	 sumanah: sounds like WMDC will have some chapter recruitment, funding and wikimania related materials, banners ready (hopefully) by then
[19:51:57] 	 sumanah: I figured, but I made that innocent mistake once before, so now I ask  :)
[19:52:03] 	 :-) thanks varnent 
[19:52:22] <^demon>	 Oh yeah, we do need curl for the POST to CR.
[19:52:53] 	 sumanah: any materials available for editor recruitment?  I'll ask LGBT WikiProject (but I'm not holding my breathe) - I may just put something together there
[19:53:12] 	 varnent: oh there sure are.
[19:53:19] 	 varnent: https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf
[19:53:28] 	 varnent: I'm not the most knowledgable person about that.
[19:53:51] 	 varnent: https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_channels
[19:54:21] 	 sumanah: excellent!  going there now  :)
[19:57:52] 	 03raymond *  10/trunk/extensions/WindowsAzureSDK/ (WindowsAzureSDK.i18n.php WindowsAzureSDK.php): (log message trimmed)
[19:57:53] 	 r108425/r108450: Consistency tweaks in preparation for adding extension to translatewiki.net:
[19:57:53] 	 * i18n file:
[19:57:53] 	 ** Fix typo in description message key
[19:57:53] 	 ** Tweak description message
[19:57:53] 	 ** Remove 'de-formal' translation. Only needed in case of formal addressing ("Sie").
[19:57:54] 	 * Extension credits:
[19:59:43] 	 03raymond *  10/trunk/translatewiki/MediaWiki/mediawiki-defines.txt: r108425/r108450: Register extension for translatewiki.net.
[20:00:02] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Don't you need to format that number with formatNum?; 
[20:01:03] 	 New code comment: Hashar; i18n for the win!!; 
[20:02:21] 	 03(NEW) iPhone app: Search results flash quickly, then disappear on each keypress if no network - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33667 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: iphone; (brion)
[20:02:48] 	 I need someone with JS chops to help out on deployment's UW
[20:02:58] * hexmode  pings people forlornly
[20:03:05] 	 uploadwizard?
[20:03:20] 	 Reedy: yes! can you help?
[20:03:21] 	 Wouldn't it be easier just to ask neilk/iam?
[20:03:26] 	 Nope
[20:03:31] 	 if I saw them, I would
[20:03:35] 	 mmm
[20:03:41] 	 I was just thinking it's strange neither of them are about
[20:04:26] 	 I called notpeter yesterday to get him to help on something... maybe I'll ring them ;)
[20:04:34] 	 in MW 1.18, if you have an Article object, is wrapping that with an EditPage object the best way to edit that article's content programatically?
[20:04:34] * hexmode  makes empty threats
[20:04:39] 	 03rsterbin *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/modules/jquery.articleFeedbackv5/jquery.articleFeedbackv5.js: Bringing back the bit that properly handled db errors
[20:05:37] 	 hexmode: what is the bug/issue?
[20:06:15] 	 sumanah: when I go to the UploadWizard page, it just sits there spinning
[20:06:24] 	 !1.17.1
[20:06:25] 	 I don't know anything about "1.17.1". You might try: !1.17 
[20:06:34] 	 hexmode, checked your js console?
[20:06:36] 	 !1.17
[20:06:37] 	 MediaWiki 1.17 is out. Latest version is 1.17.1; ; REL1_17 branched on 7 December 2010 at 77974 ;
[20:06:44] 	 Reedy: sumanah: there are more general RL problems if some one wants to help
[20:06:53] 	 and the more general ones have console errors
[20:06:55] 	 I'm doing release stuff
[20:06:59] 	 the UW problem doesn't
[20:07:08] 	 Reedy: yeah, nm me
[20:07:13] 	 forgot you were busy
[20:07:15] 	 heh
[20:07:18] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Finally :); 
[20:08:31] 	 03catrope *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 1.18wmf1: Updating to trunk state to pick up r108665
[20:08:32] 	 is there language auto detection for new users now?  User just asked since he said it seemed to recognize he was German
[20:08:38] 	 there are days that i really want to put an online test in JS skills into the core that loads before people can access user:(skin|common)/js
[20:09:19] 	 thedj: since you said the magic js word: http://commons.wikimedia.deployment.wmflabs.org/wiki/File:P14.png
[20:09:27] 	 do you get console errors there?
[20:09:42] 	 evidently FF 3.6 doesn't
[20:10:25] 	 i don't have any console error there with webkit 
[20:10:36] 	 k, I do... strange
[20:10:45] 	 ?debug=true
[20:10:48] 	 FF ubuntu
[20:11:08] 	 makes pinpointing a lot easier :D
[20:12:14] 	 surrur
[20:12:32] 	 New code comment: ^demon; Don't use $wgDBname directly, use getDBname() on a DB object. Otherwise ok.; 
[20:13:54] 	 03reedy *  10/branches/REL1_17/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES:
[20:13:54] 	 Move RELEASE-NOTES from r108234 as was before 1.17.1
[20:13:54] 	 Remove entry about r106807 which was only backported to 1.18, not 1.17
[20:13:54] 	 Do slight other tidying up at the same time
[20:14:02] 	 thedj: yeah, just disabled all the default gadgets and got no errors :)
[20:15:26] 	 how do i get the parserOutput for a given page, using the parser cache if possible?
[20:15:50] 	 is there a getPgaeHTML method or some such somewhere?
[20:16:16] 	 well, i actually need the ParserOutput, not the HTML
[20:16:30] 	 If I have an Article object in an extension, how do you edit the content of that Article? Does that need to be wrapped in another class?
[20:16:34] * hexmode  goes into bug filing mode
[20:16:37] 	 WikiPage::doWork and getCachedWork look related, but not quite what i need.
[20:17:08] 	 03reedy *  10/branches/REL1_18/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES-1.18: Add RELEASE-NOTES-1.18 from r108234 that were wrongly added to 1.17, not 1.18
[20:17:19] 	 03raymond *  10/trunk/ (69 files in 58 dirs): Localisation updates for core and extension messages from translatewiki.net
[20:17:26] 	 jbelcher: i think WikiPage::doEdit is what you are looking for
[20:17:34] 	 Daniel_WMDE: thanks!
[20:17:36] 	 but i'm a bit out of the loop
[20:19:24] 	 preilly: that api is probably the best way to do it
[20:19:33] 	 03catrope *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/extensions/MoodBar/: 1.18wmf1: Deleting MoodBar for re-branch
[20:19:44] 	 AaronSchulz: okay
[20:19:59] 	 03maxsem *  10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Revert r108603, which was itself a revert of r107376, r107994. Before considering something unneeded, please ask first ;)
[20:20:14] 	 you can Http::get() the title with action=raw...but I wouldn't use that interface
[20:22:47] 	 14(INVALID) Should add support for MySQL stored procedures/functions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33654  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[20:22:56] 	 03catrope *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/extensions/MoodBar/: 1.18wmf1: Rebranch MoodBar from trunk
[20:23:52] 	 03catrope *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/extensions/MarkAsHelpful/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 1.18wmf1: Merge MarkAsHelpful to trunk state
[20:24:45] 	 03aaron *  10/trunk/extensions/SwiftMedia/wmf/ (rewrite.py tests/ tests/rewriteRegexTest.py):
[20:24:45] 	 * Tightened rewrite code to only apply to GET/HEAD.
[20:24:45] 	 * Added regex test file for rewrite.py.
[20:24:45] 	 * Fixed bug in regex found in tests (zone had '/').
[20:25:11] 	 maplebed: ^ that makes me feel a bit better now :)
[20:26:02] 	 03petrb *  10/trunk/tools/wmib/ (DumpHtm.cs RClogs.cs): fixed output and improved html format for links
[20:26:18] 	 gah. looks like the loagiv for getting a ParserOutput for a page is buried in Article::view
[20:26:19] 	 sucks.
[20:31:12] 	 03(NEW) Instant commons should overwrite the page, not append to it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33668 normal; MediaWiki: Images and files; (mah)
[20:32:51] 	 03maxsem *  10/trunk/extensions/GeoData/ (ApiQueryCoordinates.php ApiQueryGeoSearch.php): Don't output stuff when it's null, i.e. no "paramname": null
[20:38:00] 	 03(mod) add tracking category for expression errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23959  +comment (10umherirrender_de.wp)
[20:39:30] 	 03(FIXED) [edit] links appear although __NOEDITSECTION__ present - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33250  +comment (10Umherirrender)
[20:41:20] 	 03(NEW) "importScriptURI is not defined" with monobook skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33669 normal; MediaWiki: Resource Loader; (mah)
[20:44:05] 	 I'd like to add laTeX support on my wiki is there an how to ?
[20:44:25] 	 03ialex *  10/trunk/extensions/Configure/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
[20:44:25] 	 * Use wfMessage() instead of wfMsg*()
[20:44:25] 	 * Removed usage of wfEmptyMsg()
[20:44:25] 	 * Some other misc fixes
[20:45:31] 	 03ialex *  10/trunk/extensions/Configure/settings/WebExtension.php: And I forogot to commit this file in r108677
[20:45:37] 	 03(mod) Instant commons should overwrite the page, not append to it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33668  +comment (10Chad H.)
[20:50:43] 	 03(NEW) Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to IndexPager:: - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33670 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CentralNotice; (mah)
[20:53:58] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/extensions/ShortUrl/ (ShortUrl.hooks.php ShortUrl.php):
[20:53:59] 	 Default wgShortUrlPrefix to false
[20:53:59] 	 Use it's value if it's a string
[20:56:24] 	 03reedy *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/extensions/ShortUrl/ (. ShortUrl.hooks.php ShortUrl.php): MFT r108679
[21:01:45] 	 03(mod) Change getPoweredBy to be customizable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22463  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[21:02:12] 	 hexmode: I see you got Reedy to take a look at ShortURL with an eye towards deployment :-)
[21:02:49] 	 03(mod) Change getPoweredBy to be customizable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22463  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[21:04:21] 	 03(mod) Change getPoweredBy to be customizable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22463  -need-review -patch ; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[21:04:58] 	 ^demon: sent an invite
[21:05:16] 	 sumanah: it's already been deployed in testwiki, waiting for me to fix one bug...
[21:07:07] 	 03(mod) Dashes are parsed as part of autodetected URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6458   +newparser (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[21:08:38] 	 robla http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/BugTriage-119-code-review
[21:08:51] 	 AaronSchulz: ^^
[21:11:59] 	 Hallo. What is the most thorough PHPunit testsuite - `tests/phpunit$ sudo make destructive'? (If i'm not afraid of losing data.)
[21:14:03] 	 hexmode: GH isn't letting me on today :(
[21:14:29] 	 blobaugh: np, we'll party without you :)
[21:14:32] 	 ;)
[21:14:42] 	 hexmode: :( i wanna be in the party
[21:14:57] 	 hexmode: i am trying *shudder* ie
[21:15:21] 	 appropriate, since you're our token softie
[21:15:51] 	 hexmode: only by current profession, not by life :P
[21:15:57] 	 brion, brion_ , gwicke_away - based on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23172 and other patches, Nikola Kovacs seems interested in working on the parser with you :-)  in case you want to encourage him (Nikola is usually a male's name, right?) to apply for commit access
[21:16:09] 	 blobaugh: I tease
[21:16:15] 	 you know I love you!
[21:16:27] 	 ugh, this is frustrating
[21:16:54] 	 hexmode: boss says i have to use MS products till the 24th ;)
[21:17:08] 	 heh
[21:17:16] 	 you did sign away your soul
[21:17:53] 	 hexmode: only partially. i still try to party with open sourcerors
[21:18:06] 	 sumanah: see Problem_reports on deployment ... some js bugs on there
[21:18:31] 	 hexmode: "Problem_reports on deployment" -- link?
[21:18:36] 	 hexmode: woot?
[21:18:57] 	 sumanah: http://labs.wikimedia.deployment.wmflabs.org/wiki/Problem_reports
[21:18:58] 	 hexmode: dang, it almost loaded
[21:19:10] 	 blobaugh: I heard a beep!
[21:22:35] 	 hexmode: wtf. even the uninstaller hung :S. and now my irc client has frozen too :P
[21:23:26] 	 :(
[21:23:37] 	 i knew we shouldn't trust a google product
[21:24:28] * blobaugh_  wishes windows had a kill all right now
[21:24:51] 	 power button
[21:24:56] 	 works quite well I find
[21:25:18] 	 shouldn't msft buy goog ?
[21:25:36] 	 Apple could afford to
[21:25:37] 	 hexmode: I don't think they can afford it
[21:25:38] 	 hell no! their products suck
[21:25:48] 	 New code comment: RobLa-WMF; Marking "ok" per group review; 
[21:26:08] 	 there are a bagillion googletalkplugin.exe s running in the task manager
[21:26:56] 	 03(mod) Black color is always taken as transparent when downsampling GIF images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24855  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[21:27:19] 	 Market caps:  MSFT 232B  GOOG203B  AAPL 393B
[21:30:09] 	 Saruman: but who has more cash?
[21:31:18] 	 03(mod) Change project namespace for lb.wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33662  +comment (10hercule.wikipedia)
[21:31:21] 	 03kaldari *  10/trunk/extensions/CentralNotice/CentralNoticePageLogPager.php: follow-up to r108110 - re-adding needed global var; also fixing fatal error on construct
[21:31:56] 	 hexmode: interesting question, but regardless of who has the deepest pockets, they're too big to acquire each other unless the other party AND the authorities really want to
[21:32:42] 	 google hangout is worthless
[21:32:56] 	 blobaugh_: lies!
[21:33:04] 	 hexmode: next time let me setup a good conference room on my system here
[21:33:11] 	 blobaugh_: WFM!
[21:33:18] 	 blobaugh: sorry you've been having trouble.  It works fine for many of us :-(  hope you can call in via the standard conference call number?
[21:33:35] 	 sumanah: i have no idea how to do that
[21:33:40] 	 blobaugh_: don't worry about it
[21:33:47] 	 03(FIXED) Catchable fatal error: Argument 1 passed to IndexPager:: - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33670  +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[21:33:53] 	 03(mod) [SF] Special:RunQuery error takes down pages using it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33424  (10contrafibularity)
[21:34:07] 	 hexmode: this project is important to me. i want to be there
[21:34:27] 	 blobaugh_: hrm... you could call in to 2003
[21:34:32] 	 and listen
[21:34:47] 	 at least we could hear chad when he did that
[21:34:53] 	 hexmode: i have no idea how
[21:36:21] 	 i am going to wear out this stupid join button
[21:36:39] 	 blobaugh_ see pm?
[21:42:17] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; getBucketFromKey() is now a misnomer. Should be renamed for clarity.; 
[21:45:17] 	 New code comment: Hashar; > Key needs to be removed from messages.inc also. \ Adressed in follow up r107198 :); 
[21:45:20] 	 Daniel_WMDE_: do you happen to know how many of http://www.wikimedia.de/wiki/WikiData_Jobs are still open?
[21:45:36] 	 er, are any of them open? I see applications closed last year.
[21:57:25] 	 did someone stop the Bugzilla bot or is it just being slow?
[21:59:05] 	 probably being slow
[22:08:14] 	 hexmode: it over now?
[22:08:48] 	 Hi, Reedy. Upgrading PEAR and reinstalling phpunit solved my problems yesterday.
[22:08:53] 	 Now, what is the most thorough PHPunit testsuite - `tests/phpunit$ sudo make destructive'? (If i'm not afraid of losing data.)
[22:09:09] 	 php phpunit.php should do everything
[22:09:10] 	 hashar: ^^
[22:09:10] 	 AFAIK
[22:10:02] 	 aharoni: php phpunit.php
[22:10:20] 	 but I usually use  "make noparser"
[22:10:56] * aharoni  is trying
[22:11:13] 	 php phpunit.php  use whatever is in suite.xml
[22:11:29] 	 which is, currently, mostly everything
[22:11:39] 	 hmm. looks like i'm getting stuck again:
[22:11:59] 	 (Broken are tests which are miss functioning,  ParserFuzz WILL KILL YOUR COMPUTER, Stub I don't know)
[22:12:17] 	 Rep, I trying to install Tex, but it send me this error :  From function « MathRenderer::_recall ». La base de données (the database) a renvoyé l’erreur « 1146 : Table 'db_kVzRqvdg.math' doesn't exist (localhost) ». What can i do??? is there a better place to speak about that problem?? Thank you 
[22:12:25] 	 robla: you on?
[22:13:43] 	 earlier i tried `tests/phpunit$ sudo make destructive'. It started nicely, then got stuck at 58% and after a few minutes killed itself.
[22:14:13] 	 aharoni: another way to run tests is to pass a test file as an argument. Something like:  php phpunit.php languages/LanguageArTest.php 
[22:14:35] 	 you probably don't want to use sudo :-)
[22:15:24] 	 maijin: tu viens d'installer l'extension Math ?
[22:15:41] 	 hashar, oui
[22:15:58] 	 aharoni: also ---tap shows the name of each tests currently being run. Example: php phpunit.php --tap languages/LanguageArTest.php
[22:16:25] 	 aharoni: finally have a look at the debug log file. You might have a database based cache that makes everything slowdown heavily :/
[22:16:53] 	 maijin: l'erreur indique que ta base de données n'a pas la table "math". Je pense qu'il faut lancer le script "maintenance/update.php"
[22:17:00] 	 maijin: ça devrait créer la table
[22:17:34] 	 hashar, d'accord je vais essayer
[22:18:03] 	 maijin: update.php permet de mettre à jour la base de données avec tout ce dont l'extension peut avoir besoin
[22:18:08] 	 maijin: enfin, en théorie :-)))
[22:18:31] 	 brb
[22:18:43] 	 aharoni: if you want, we can do a chat tomorrow so we can talk about PHPUnit tests
[22:18:56] 	 aharoni: I can help you on this topic.  But for tonight it is too late 
[22:19:08] 	 maijin: je file au lit désolé :/  Debout à 6h00!
[22:19:24] 	 maijin: mais je suis là en journée et parfois le soir.
[22:28:06] 	 Reedy: in your mediawiki-announce email you link to http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/tags/REL1_18_1/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES which gives me a page not found error
[22:28:07] 	 When i go to update.php it says i don't have the permission to access 
[22:28:45] 	 It's cause we reneamed it
[22:28:46] 	 bleh
[22:29:11] 	 maijin, go to update.php how?
[22:29:21] 	 http://dutinfo.kappatau.eu/wiki/maintenance/update.php
[22:29:27] 	 You don't do it like that
[22:29:28] 	 !update
[22:29:28] 	 update.php is a script that updates the database tables. You usually need to run it after upgrading MediaWiki or installing certain extensions. For details, see 
[22:29:29] 	 !shell
[22:29:30] 	 Shell access (that is, SSH access, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH) is highly recommended if you want to run MediaWiki. You can install without it, and basic operation will work, but even creating backups or upgrading will be painful without it. Some more involved maintenance tasks may even be impossible. MediaWiki is not designed for minimal environments.
[22:29:39] 	 I've got a TODO to fix that version in the make-release script
[22:30:08] 	 Ok :)
[22:30:16] 	 Thanks Reedy
[22:31:14] 	 Oo Fatal error: Class 'SimpleCaptcha' not found in /home/host/dutinfo.kappatau.eu/public_html/wiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit/ReCaptcha.php on line 54
[22:35:22] 	 03(mod) "Email this user"-link has no returnto-parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25234  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[22:35:46] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/tools/make-release/make-release:
[22:35:46] 	 Fix link of RELEASE-NOTES to match version suffixed way of currently doing it
[22:35:46] 	 Also link to the mw.org "Release notes" page for that version
[22:36:02] 	 ^ fixed for future
[22:37:41] 	 03(mod) Instant commons should overwrite the page, not append to it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33668  +comment (10sam)
[22:38:39] 	 03(FIXED) prop=revisions allows deleted text to be exposed through cache pollution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33117  +comment (10Reedy)
[22:38:58] 	 Reedy, When i go to index.php It says Class 'SimpleCaptcha' not Found in
[22:39:22] 	 /home/host/dutinfo.kappatau.eu/public_html/wiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit/ReCaptcha.php on line 54
[22:39:32] 	 03(mod) "importScriptURI is not defined" with monobook skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33669  +comment (10sam)
[22:40:03] 	 varnent: hey varnent, I found some people for you to contact regarding the meeting on the 13th: http://www.wikimatrix.org/consultants/MediaWiki
[22:41:33] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; I thought the results returned already were real. Interesting.; 
[22:41:51] 	 03(mod) "Email this user"-link has no returnto-parameter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25234  -need-review -patch ; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[22:43:08] 	 sumanah: all wikidata slots are taken. last interview is tomorrow. 
[22:43:21] 	 it's quite possible we'll need some specialists for some stuff later on, though
[22:43:27] 	 Daniel_WMDE_: ok, glad you've been able to hire up :-)  do any of them need commit access?  :)
[22:44:19] 	 sumanah: jobs don't start before march, possible only in april, because we don't have the new office before that
[22:45:14] 	 sumanah: I will work on the summary of things TBD
[22:45:20] 	 on the etherpad
[22:45:24] 	 maplebed: can you review the rewrite.py stuff?
[22:45:25] 	 sumanah: apropos: i don't think we'll ahve the hackathon before may. we'll be busy moving and hosting the board meeting and the member's convention in april.
[22:45:26] 	 thanks hexmode.
[22:45:45] 	 there's no official word about it, and it's not up to me, but this is what i get from looking at our calendar.
[22:46:28] 	 03(mod) prop=revisions allows deleted text to be exposed through cache pollution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33117  (10Reedy)
[22:47:16] 	 sumanah: about wikidata... one guy has been volunteering his help. didn't get back to him yet, will ask denny tomorrow if he has. 
[22:47:22] * Lcawte  is looking forward to any European hackathons this year that aren't the weekend before an exam :D
[22:47:31] 	 AaronSchulz: i was reading it this morning!
[22:47:32] 	 i don't know how we can best involve volunteers - maybe we can talk about that in sf a bit
[22:47:32] 	 :)
[22:47:39] 	 but you mean in codereview, right?
[22:47:44] 	 thanks for the update, Daniel_WMDE_ .  Makes sense.  
[22:47:46] 	 I'll see if I can.
[22:47:46] 	 :P
[22:48:40] 	 Lcawte: well, depending on how much you liked the last one, you can always do another, or try to piggyback onto some PHP thing nearby.  BTW how was your winter break?
[22:49:14] 	 Ummm, I can't remember to be fair, thrown back into exams, I'm pretty sure I was without internet for a week...
[22:52:12] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/tools/make-release/make-release: Make some things conditional for <= 1.17
[22:52:22] 	 AaronSchulz: how do I find teh right revisions?
[22:52:53] 	 ah, nevermind.
[22:52:53] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?path=%2Ftrunk%2Fextensions%2FSwiftMedia&title=Special%3ACode%2FMediaWiki
[22:53:18] 	 Daniel_WMDE_: fyi, the wikidata thing....
[22:53:46] 	 :(
[22:54:58] 	 14(INVALID) Focus on search field with auto-text highlight - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33358  (10Phil Chang)
[22:55:36] * AaronSchulz  was away printing :)
[22:56:13] * thedj  today printed a 44 page ant script.....
[22:57:25] 	 AaronSchulz: is line 180 (in rewrite.py) missing a / before the final .*?
[22:57:28] * thedj  then went back to boss and said: "you gave me 2 weeks, but i want 2 months to clean up this piece of s..."
[22:57:37] 	 AaronSchulz: line 184 implies that it is.
[22:58:11] 	 oh, yeah it is
[23:03:10] 	 03(FIXED) PhoneGap-based iOS app needs non-Android menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32068  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[23:03:33] 	 03(mod) Unique identity constraints for XML dump format schema - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4220  +comment (10sumanah)
[23:04:50] 	 03(mod) Allow URL functions to concatenate query string from multiple arguments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8262  -need-review -patch +newparser; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[23:04:54] 	 I've compiled texvc on my computer, place it on math extension updated the table, but now it says that the exec is not found, here is what i've in my Localsettings for the extension : http://ideone.com/j5fNL
[23:05:18] 	 03(mod) prop=revisions allows deleted text to be exposed through cache pollution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33117  +comment (10sam)
[23:05:18] 	 What can i do???
[23:05:46] 	 !e ConfirmEdit
[23:05:46] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit
[23:05:52] 	 03(mod) [[Section::...]] variables - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1605  +comment (10sumanah)
[23:06:27] 	 maijin, don't use the simplecaptcha plugin
[23:06:36] 	 03(FIXED) Creating a PDF with collection extension does not render the  tag hook from proofread page extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21653  +comment (10Ralf Schmitt)
[23:07:36] 	 Reedy, 
[23:07:49] 	 it seems ot have been deleted at somepoint
[23:08:03] 	 this is what i got when i use recaptcha http://dutinfo.kappatau.eu/wiki/index.php
[23:08:23] 	 How can i fix that ???
[23:08:51] 	 Use a newer version of confirmedit it seems
[23:09:13] 	 i'm not sure when simple captcha died
[23:11:03] 	 Reedy, I've updated it
[23:11:04] 	 nothing
[23:11:11] 	 ^^
[23:11:54] 	 from where?
[23:11:55] 	 with what?
[23:12:00] 	 replacing it with the same wpon't do anything
[23:12:19] 	 03(mod) DigiCert High Assurance EV Root CA is not trusted by IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33657  +comment (10liangent)
[23:12:55] 	 I download snapshot from here https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit
[23:13:29] 	 but isn't that exactly the same as what you had before?
[23:14:00] 	 yep
[23:14:03] 	 -_-'
[23:14:24] 	 what version is your wiki running on?
[23:14:57] 	 03(mod) Android app has no long-click menu on links: no way to copy-paste links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31485  normal->15enhancement (10Phil Chang)
[23:15:34] 	 1.18.0
[23:15:55] 	 maplebed: https://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=revision&revision=77256
[23:16:02] 	 RoanKattouw: do we still use that?
[23:16:39] 	 1.18.0 Reedy 
[23:16:52] 	 uploadstash seems to just transform to the temp zone
[23:17:02] 	 I believe so
[23:17:18] 	 It's cause the extension sets itself up badly
[23:17:27] * AaronSchulz  finds nothing in grep
[23:17:32] 	 AaronSchulz: At least at the time, the thumb handler stuff didn't actually support thumbnailing of things in the temp zone
[23:17:52] 	 Reedy,  so what do you suggest 
[23:18:00] 	 it looks like swift won't need to handle it afaik
[23:20:01] 	 AaronSchulz: I don't care much how it ends up being done, just saying that previously, thumbnailing of things outside of the main zone was not supported (and thumbs of thumbs probably shouldn't be :D ) and I fixed that in the least-effort way possible
[23:21:37] * ^demon  thumbnails a thumbnail of RoanKattouw
[23:21:39] <^demon>	 Inception!
[23:21:40] 	 03(NEW) some file thumbs fail to purge on upload of a new version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33672 normal; Wikimedia: Interwiki links; (saibotrash)
[23:22:20] 	 03(mod) some file thumbs fail to purge on upload of a new version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33672  (10p858snake)
[23:22:31] 	 03(mod) Allow URL functions to concatenate query string from multiple arguments - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/8262  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[23:22:45] 	 ^demon: 
[23:22:58] 	 (the chat was too tiny and incepted to see!)
[23:22:58] <^demon>	 Hm?
[23:23:07] <^demon>	 :p
[23:24:42] 	 maplebed: I guess I can kill it
[23:24:48] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/extensions/ConfirmEdit/ (ReCaptcha.class.php ReCaptcha.php): Load the Recaptcha class in a way that has some chance of even working
[23:24:52] 	 I think I'm going insane... Why are bugzilla interwiki links not reflecting what is in the interwiki table?
[23:24:59] 	 AaronSchulz: only if you're convinced.
[23:25:02] 	 http://labs.wikimedia.deployment.wmflabs.org/wiki/Problem_reports
[23:25:21] 	 hexmode: because bugzilla is not mediawiki?
[23:25:36] 	 its interwiki to en: is just a dirty hack
[23:25:46] 	 03(mod) some file thumbs fail to purge on upload of a new version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33672  +comment (10saibotrash)
[23:25:46] 	 with some regex iirc
[23:25:47] 	 p858snake|l: but this is a link to 'bugzilla:'
[23:25:55] 	 and the interwiki table is correct
[23:26:13] <^demon>	 hexmode: We don't use the interwiki table on wmf sites?
[23:26:39] 	 ^demon: then tell me how to set the interwiki links?
[23:26:45] 	 ^demon: labs is special
[23:27:07] 	 unless that got setup to be the same
[23:27:24] 	 we use an IW cache file
[23:27:31] 	 p858snake|l: they are similar setups
[23:27:48] 	  so we can test the deploy to wmf
[23:28:31] <^demon>	 hexmode: Look at $wgInterwikiCache or w/e it's called.
[23:28:37] 	 k
[23:28:44] <^demon>	 It uses the CDB files like l10n cache (actually, it predates the l10n cache)
[23:29:36] 	 ^demon: bingo
[23:29:46] 	 ok, how do I update it?
[23:30:11] 	 http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Update_the_interwiki_cache
[23:30:12] 	 03aaron *  10/trunk/extensions/SwiftMedia/wmf/ (rewrite.py tests/rewriteRegexTest.py): Removed thumb/temp rewrites; such urls are not used anymore
[23:30:17] 	 :)
[23:30:26] 	 \o/
[23:31:28] 	 03preilly *  10/trunk/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess/ZeroRatedMobileAccess.body.php: load options directly from a foreign wiki
[23:31:32] 	 what is the maximum size of a mw page?
[23:31:58] 	 Reedy, I've found another version of confirmEdit on subversion which is more recent but now i've got another error => http://dutinfo.kappatau.eu/wiki/index.php/Accueil
[23:32:02] 	 I don't think technically we limit it
[23:32:11] 	 03(mod) DigiCert High Assurance EV Root CA is not trusted by IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33657  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[23:32:20] 	 If I create a page with a few million lines, can I expect reasonable performance on good hardware + lan?
[23:32:21] 	 Page looks fine ot me
[23:32:29] 	 Reedy, faceface: $wgMaxArticleSize , defaults to 2000 KB
[23:32:38] 	 AaronSchulz: bad news.   /wikipedia/commons/thumb/temp/6/6b/20120111233201%21phpgR97UN.png/100px-20120111233201%21phpgR97UN.png  was just requested from ms5.
[23:32:47] 	 means thumb/temp is still in use.
[23:33:11] 	 (hooray tcpdump)
[23:33:19] 	 on the top of the page : Warning: include() [function.include]: Failed opening '/home/host/dutinfo.kappatau.eu/public_html/wiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit/ReCaptcha.i18n.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in /home/host/dutinfo.kappatau.eu/public_html/wiki/includes/LocalisationCache.php on line 408
[23:33:39] 	 i odn't get that
[23:33:42] 	 03(mod) DigiCert High Assurance EV Root CA is not trusted by IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33657  +comment (10p858snake)
[23:33:53] 	 Does the file exist?
[23:34:28] 	 maplebed: we can control it
[23:34:30] 	 http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=CommonSettings.php
[23:34:36] 	 $wgUploadStashScalerBaseUrl = "$urlprotocol//upload.wikimedia.org/$site/$lang/thumb/temp";
[23:34:39] 	 Reedy, LocalisationCache.php yes
[23:34:53] 	 No
[23:34:58] 	 Failed opening '/home/host/dutinfo.kappatau.eu/public_html/wiki/extensions/ConfirmEdit/ReCaptcha.i18n.php'
[23:35:08] 	 ah yes
[23:35:26] 	 yes it exists
[23:35:28] 	 hrm... mwscript is missing from deploy
[23:35:33] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; Scaptrap due to $wgUploadStashScalerBaseUrl.; 
[23:36:17] 	 AaronSchulz: in that case, ok!  :)
[23:36:31] 	 Reedy, yes the ReCaptcha.i18n.php exists
[23:36:41] 	 yay for the tcp dump though
[23:38:04] 	 (amusingly, 'grep temp' gets me about 10 temples and 5 templates for every file in thumb/temp/)
[23:38:13] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/api/ApiQueryRevisions.php: * (bug 33117) prop=revisions allows deleted text to be exposed through cache pollution
[23:38:39] 	 03reedy *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/includes/api/ApiQueryRevisions.php: * (bug 33117) prop=revisions allows deleted text to be exposed through cache pollution
[23:39:23] <^demon|dinner>	 !grep is Grep is awful. Use ack instead: http://betterthangrep.com/
[23:39:24] 	 Successfully added keyword: grep
[23:40:19] 	 03preilly *  10/trunk/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess/ZeroRatedMobileAccess.body.php: fix for r108565 c29376
[23:41:07] 	 THis is all the errors that i've got http://ideone.com/jpWNe
[23:41:55] 	 ^demon|dinner: ack looks like a tool specifically for looking through source code, which is only a small portion of what grep's useful for.  That's a pretty trollish use for a irc bot's keyword expansion.
[23:44:20] 	 03preilly *  10/trunk/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess/ZeroRatedMobileAccess.body.php: fix for r108565 c29376 better variable names
[23:48:36] 	 03(NEW) iOS PhoneGap app 1.0 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33673 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: iphone; (brion)
[23:48:37] 	 03(mod) PhoneGap-based iOS app doesn't open external links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32613  (10Brion Vibber)
[23:48:39] 	 03(mod) PhoneGap-based iOS app bumps search toolbar to center of screen when keyboarding in if page is scrolled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32614  (10Brion Vibber)
[23:48:42] 	 03(mod) PhoneGap-based iOS app needs non-Android menu - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32068  (10Brion Vibber)
[23:49:54] 	 03ben *  10/trunk/extensions/SwiftMedia/wmf/rewrite.py: added more comments describing containers and added parentheses to clarify conditional assignment. FU r108596
[23:51:39] 	 AaronSchulz: (or hexmode or anybody else really) how to I officially review a code diff?  Specifically https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/108596
[23:52:06] 	 maplebed: first do you see a drop down that will let you mark it ok?
[23:52:12] 	 nope.
[23:52:16] 	 you may need to be added to the coder group
[23:52:25] 	 wikiname is maplebed?
[23:52:39] 	 this is what I've got: http://screencast.com/t/7ND2SUuqi79
[23:52:42] 	 wikiname is bhartshorne.
[23:52:55] 	 03(NEW) Remove 'urlcache' PhoneGap plugin from Android app, do caching ourselves - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33674 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: generic; (brion)
[23:52:56] 	 03(mod) iOS PhoneGap app 1.0 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33673  (10Brion Vibber)
[23:53:09] 	 maplebed: try now
[23:53:19] 	 reloading
[23:53:37] 	 ah!  status is now a dropdown menu and there's a new tags section where I can add and remove.
[23:54:19] 	 hexmode: how are 'Sign-offs' used, and how are they different from setting a change to 'ok'?
[23:54:53] 	 maplebed: if you're not allowed to set ok or not confident enough, you can sign off
[23:54:53] 	 (i.e. should I mark code as 'inspected' as well as changing from 'new' to 'ok'?)
[23:55:02] 	 just mark it ok
[23:55:39] 	 thanks.
[23:58:59] 	 14(INVALID) DigiCert High Assurance EV Root CA is not trusted by IE8 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33657  +comment (10Ryan Lane)
[23:59:19] 	 03rmoen *  10/branches/concurrency/resources/ (Resources.php jquery/jquery.concurrency.js): added basic jquery plugin for checking in and checking out objects via the concurrency api layer
[23:59:47] 	 03(NEW) Edit section links do not display while using diff=curr - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33671 normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (jelle.zijlstra)
[23:59:59] 	 sumanah: yr name mysspelled on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Hackathon_January_2012