[00:04:00] robla: I see you [00:04:11] can't hear us? [00:04:11] robla: I an hear you [00:04:16] yes [00:04:18] :) [00:04:23] cool! [00:04:38] one sec [00:05:10] robla: Not sure if my mic works [00:05:12] heh [00:06:16] robla: Nope :/ [00:07:38] Reedy: http://toolserver.org/~krinkle/tmp/apisandbox-c1.patch [00:07:43] now it ought be fied [00:07:51] robla: hmm [00:07:52] fixed [00:08:13] robla: Might of busted the mic when I fixed the LCD, let mget a an extrenal mic [00:09:19] for those just joining us, we've got a Google Hangout set up from the hackathon: https://talkgadget.google.com/hangouts/extras/wikimedia.org/hackathon [00:10:02] Krinkle, now the box finishes under the next cell [00:10:04] rather than infront [00:10:06] ie it's cut off [00:10:26] howdy - where should I look for how to convert a pretty custom skiin for 1.15 to a pretty custom skin for 1.18? The skinning manual on mw.org seems to be out of date [00:10:38] Reedy: I can't reproduce this anywhere.. screen ? [00:12:10] 03(NEW) Visual representation of diacritic in Arabic special chars - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33895 minor; MediaWiki extensions: WikiEditor; (shervinafshar) [00:12:28] 03(mod) Commons uploader - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33859 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [00:13:28] Krinkle, https://www.strongspace.com/reedy/public/apisandboxunder.png [00:13:46] 03(mod) Visual representation of diacritic in Arabic special chars - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33895 +comment (10shervinafshar) [00:14:03] yay snacks [00:15:37] 03(FIXED) Wikipedia Android app can't search when in WIFI only mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33844 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [00:17:01] New code comment: Yair rand; Not sure if this matters, but accessing individual characters in a String via "String[number]", as i; [00:17:36] yay, my first g+ thingy [00:19:14] there's a g+ thingy? [00:19:23] robla sent the link a minute ago [00:19:31] dunno if it's public or wmf-office accounts only [00:19:44] https://talkgadget.google.com/hangouts/extras/wikimedia.org/hackathon [00:19:59] cool - whatcha all doin in there? :) [00:20:24] * varnent never done a g+ thingy either [00:21:26] Reedy: get in the G+ [00:21:31] Whhhy? [00:21:36] I'm raging at BF3 [00:24:08] * varnent playing around with the G Talk plugin.. [00:25:34] Well that is just surreal [00:25:58] Reedy: sounds like you're in a wind tunne [00:26:04] muted [00:26:18] aubreyja: Dantman is pretty good with the skinning stuff [00:28:42] yeah - this is a Big Brother voyearistic thing.. [00:47:31] * varnent pondering if we walked into a G+ ad.. [00:48:38] 03oren * 10/trunk/lucene-search-3/pom.xml: added javadoc generation to pom [00:49:53] Reedy: one more try ? http://toolserver.org/~krinkle/tmp/apisandbox-c2.patch [00:50:21] i'm muted [00:50:41] yess, it takes time to svn revert, wget.. ;) [00:51:07] 03(mod) [ExternalData] Did not find alias for special page 'GetData' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33874 summary (10p858snake) [00:51:16] Krinkle, looks good now [00:54:37] 03krinkle * 10/trunk/extensions/ApiSandbox/ (SpecialApiSandbox.php ext.apiSandbox.css ext.apiSandbox.js): [00:54:37] [ApiSandbox] fix regression from r109726 in some browsers [00:54:37] * Use px with px instead of mixed with em. With table cell layout constrains and overflows peaking out of cells, better fix the dimensions with px [00:54:37] * Remove unneeded overflow:auto on [00:54:38] * Make example/clear button not submit buttons, otherwise $form.submit() is triggered [00:54:38] * Use $.inArray instead of Array.proto.indexOf (not supported on older IE) [00:54:39] * nodeName case cross-browser (http://ejohn.org/blog/nodename-case-sensitivity/) [00:54:41] Reedy: alrighty [00:54:46] Microsoft Microsoft Microsoft [00:55:31] this guy [00:56:32] how did he even find us? [00:56:58] I have no clue [00:58:19] * varnent wondering how the per person mute buttons work.. [00:58:50] do they work for us all? [00:59:12] this is why my partner instituted a no video cam at home office policy - my facial expressions are not very friendly at times :) [00:59:21] varnent: heheh [00:59:47] lmao [00:59:48] lol [00:59:58] making friends [01:00:10] robla: * [01:00:16] well at least now I know how that feature works :) [01:00:17] O [01:00:25] OH! side bonus - I can't hear him anymore - oh thank god [01:00:31] haha [01:01:56] developers [01:01:56] developers [01:01:57] developers [01:02:17] kudos for your continued efforts with him - lol - I can't hear any of him - and you're getting like five words in lol [01:02:39] Reedy: had enough? lol [01:02:48] the headset is for my desktop [01:02:52] this is on my laptop :p [01:02:53] oh [01:02:55] :p [01:02:55] stopped playing bf3 [01:02:58] so took it off ;) [01:03:37] robla: oh god [01:03:39] finally [01:03:51] heya [01:04:13] johnduhart: finally? as in "came back"? [01:04:14] :) [01:04:26] there's more ubuntu machines than apple ;) [01:04:45] this guy just doesn't stop [01:05:07] I'm amazed you haven't blocked him yet - lol [01:05:16] you're nicer :) [01:05:23] * johnduhart is too nice :( [01:05:55] * varnent remembers when he was once nice.. [01:06:10] I can give you an excuse to ditch [01:06:25] YES [01:06:46] lol [01:07:03] bail [01:07:09] haha [01:07:16] robla: Thanks man [01:07:17] lol [01:07:31] freedom! [01:07:46] how did he get on the hangout? [01:07:48] when he pulled the book out..I knew we were in trouble.. [01:08:02] lol - we need a circle just for wikimedia apparently to do security [01:08:09] 03krinkle * 10/trunk/extensions/ApiSandbox/ext.apiSandbox.js: [01:08:09] [ApiSandbox] bug fix [01:08:09] * Looks like API is returning HTML here, got a couple of
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  • 's [01:08:09] * Wrapping parens only if there is a link, got a couple of loose () before [01:08:16] robla: I have no idea, he just showed up [01:08:19] this was the only place I advertised this....it must have been in a feed somewhere [01:08:37] he must have been "following" one of us on G+ [01:08:37] actually - the irony is that guy probably would have known how - I'm just not sure how to ask "so..how do we set this up to keep you from coming back?" [01:08:42] robla: It could be on your profile or on wikimedia's feed. [01:08:58] bu then again, I first logged on my account an hour ago, so I have no clue [01:09:16] well that was fun [01:09:23] * varnent been using G+ for months - but never used Hangout [01:09:33] varnent: yeah, he knew quite a lot about hangouts [01:09:47] maybe he's a hangout troll [01:10:05] just join random public hangouts and do whatever the opposite of status quo is [01:10:05] lol [01:10:06] It does make a status message https://plus.google.com/100487707060277006789/posts/QftiS5fwZiV [01:10:18] Hm.. I'm denied access from that [01:10:25] Reedy: I think he was!! he talked about jumping between hangouts.. [01:11:41] someone should have gotten domas to join [01:13:25] 03diederik * 10/trunk/analytics/pipeliner/ (dataset.py launcher.py pipeline.py user_agent.py): Multiprocessing launcher no longer causes memory leaks. Fixes a lot of edge cases. [01:14:52] 03krinkle * 10/trunk/extensions/ApiSandbox/ext.apiSandbox.js: [ApiSandbox] rm leftover from r109726 [01:25:09] 03diederik * 10/trunk/analytics/pipeliner/user_agent.py: Catch unicode error. [01:40:34] 03oren * 10/trunk/lucene-search-3/src/main/java/org/wikimedia/lsearch/search/MultiSearcherMul.java: added generic arguments to make hash usage type safe [01:41:58] It works :D http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/D1 [01:42:06] Oh, I should probably enable guest viewing [01:42:47] 03oren * 10/trunk/lucene-search-3/src/main/java/org/ (95 files in 21 dirs): removed unused import statements [01:46:08] * varnent I love this: "Facebook engineers rave about Phabricator, describing it with glowing terms like "okay" and "mandatory". " [01:47:38] ok, upgrade successful, thanks for making that pretty painless, mw developers [01:51:35] Okay, now public http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/D1 [01:52:06] oooooh that's neat [01:52:08] I like that [01:52:21] :D [01:52:42] werdna: It's all built in PHP, and we can build linters and such to support it [01:52:53] that is pretty much the coolest thing ever [01:53:56] 03(mod) Wikieditor toolbar has only a half of screen width - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32372 +comment (10Zaran) [01:54:50] 03oren * 10/trunk/lucene-search-3/src/main/java/org/wikimedia/lsearch/util/QueryStringMap.java: added generic arguments to collections to make class type safe [01:54:52] werdna, alcohol? [01:54:58] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/specials/ (6 files): unlist pages that should not be listed [01:56:35] Reedy: phabricator :p [01:56:45] Reedy: btw are you going to sf again this jan/feb? [01:56:53] No idea [01:57:08] I didn't get to go for the hackathon (ie this weekend) [01:57:19] and AFAIK there's no reason for me to be there (specifically) anytime soon [01:57:21] soooo [01:57:24] * Reedy shrugs [01:58:23] ah well, I'll see you in summer at the latest [01:58:26] anyone familiar with Title::equals( Title::newMainPage() ) [01:59:11] werdna: Are you coming to FOSDEM? [01:59:12] what about it? [01:59:13] use $title->isMainPage() ?;) [01:59:16] RoanKattouw: not this year [01:59:30] Oh, you'll be in the US around that time though right? [01:59:41] yeah, I'm around from the 5th through the 26th [01:59:52] Ah, awesome [01:59:55] Reedy: let me try that.. [01:59:57] Then it's quite likely I'll catch you [02:00:05] I have some Australian currency to sell you [02:00:20] varnent, Didn't you have that before till you tried to add back compat? [02:00:31] money changers in the temple of WMF? [02:00:45] Reedy: something a bit longer.. - but then it stopped working in MW1.17 [02:00:54] i'm sure werdna has some useless cocurrency to swap for $AU [02:01:03] * Reedy wonders what's going on before the summer [02:01:26] RoanKattouw: ah yes [02:01:38] I'm doing scenario 2 on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family but when I edit one wiki, it redirects me back to the other [02:01:46] shame I didn't get to ballarat but honestly I've just wanted to be in one place for more than a few days for the first time since november [02:01:54] Yeah dude that's totally fnie [02:02:05] We were thinking you might come to Melbourne, but even that is still pretty far [02:02:07] eg, editng http://stage.techessentials.org/wiki/Main_Page redirects to http://stage.testwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page [02:02:11] And the Ballarat campus is in the middle of damn nowhere [02:02:16] it's not that bad [02:02:18] Like *really* in the middle of damn nowhere [02:02:18] only a 1h flight [02:02:20] Such a hard lfe travelling ;) [02:02:27] RoanKattouw: oh shush, by dutch standards [02:02:27] It's 10km outside of the town of Ballarat [02:02:31] 03oren * 10/trunk/lucene-search-3/src/main/java/org/wikimedia/lsearch/util/QueryStringMap.java: added correct generic arguments to collections to make class type safe [02:02:35] it's a commute from melbourne [02:02:41] it's actually the other way around, but still annoying [02:02:46] 03abemusic * 10/trunk/debs/nginx/modules/nginx-udplog/ (README ngx_http_udplog_module.c test_client.py): [02:02:47] - Check that user agent string is not null in the request object. Fixes edge case with very large user agent strings that were causing nginx worker to segfault. [02:02:47] - Added python client to send some common user agent strings and random unicode garbage as user agent strings [02:02:47] - Updated README [02:02:47] I'm not saying Ballarat is far [02:02:50] 03(mod) to support for microdata and rdfa, allow tags so external links can have ref/rel attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33886 +comment (10daniel.kinzler) [02:03:03] I'm saying the campus itself is especially remote by "I don't own a car on this hemisphere" standards [02:03:19] speaking of, I'm going to steal you and timo for some dutch lessons at some point [02:03:43] Sure [02:03:49] 03oren * 10/trunk/lucene-search-3/src/main/java/org/apache/lucene/search/MultiSearcherBase.java: added generic arguments to a collection to make class more type safe [02:03:51] Any particular reason you're learning such an obscure language? [02:03:54] (I'm using method 1 under step 7) [02:04:04] RoanKattouw: because I'm going to be living in Maastricht for a year. [02:04:10] Oh, you are? Awesome! [02:04:13] did I not tell you that? [02:04:23] I knew you were considering a few places including Maastricht [02:04:28] I didn't know you'd decided [02:04:34] ah, well I've been confirmed for Maastricht [02:04:37] Would this be the 2012-13 AY? [02:04:44] that's the one [02:05:21] 03oren * 10/trunk/lucene-search-3/src/test/java/org/wikimedia/lsearch/ (5 files in 4 dirs): removed unused import statements [02:05:23] So during the 12-13 AY, you're gonna be studying 200 mi from where I was born and I'll be studying 50 mi from where you were born xD [02:05:42] TimStarling: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33886 [02:05:42] so I've been arranging award tickets to Wikimania and then onto europe [02:05:46] heh, figures doesn't it? [02:05:58] Ah, yes, going via DC makes sense [02:06:38] * jorm yawns. [02:06:41] I've been trying to burn all my points on first class tickets, so I'm flying SYD-HKG on QF A380, with a six hour layover there, then HKG-YVR-JFK on a CX 777 [02:06:45] the whole trip takes about 36 hours [02:06:54] and costs me about $400 [02:06:57] hello, someone tell me how to add pourrait'il language selector in the Sidebar. [02:06:57] I see that there is "LANGUAGE" already ... but this seems to have no effect, no language is displayed. I try it says "FRench *" "* Francais" just below "LANGUAGE" but I do not see anything appear. [02:06:57] Can you tell me how, thank you in advance [02:07:08] Holy crap [02:07:25] (and 240k points) [02:07:31] Well, that sounds like a somewhat sane way to get to the East Coast [02:07:38] I'll have some BA points to burn soon [02:07:46] Although I really should've realized that AA has a better FF program sooner [02:07:55] BA sucks because they charge fuel surcharges, I'd go with AA [02:08:00] I've done AMS-LHR-SIN-SYD-MEL on BA/QF, and I'll be doing SFO-LHR-AMS [02:08:02] only 100k miles for top tier status [02:08:05] Yes, AA also gives you way more points [02:08:10] Tjf: wait for a pause in the discussion and ask again. [02:08:15] I have an AA account but it was too late to change the existing ticket [02:08:20] nod [02:08:25] So I'll be saving BA miles until they're marginally useful, then switch to AA [02:08:36] amgine, hehe, okay [02:08:45] Ideally, this whole trip would've been on Star or something and I would've had Star Silver by Feb 1 [02:08:46] New code comment: GWicke; Good to know. There are bigger things that make it incompatible with browsers currently (some of the; [02:08:55] (My MEL-SFO travel was on Air NZ) [02:09:38] --> private [02:10:07] Yeah, we're too noisy ^^ [02:12:48] seems quiet enough to ask now... [02:13:27] I'm doing scenario 2 on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family but when I edit one wiki, it redirects me back to the other. Editing http://stage.testwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page redirects to http://stage.techessentials.org/wiki/Main_Page [02:13:52] 03(mod) to support for microdata and rdfa, allow tags so external links can have ref/rel attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33886 +comment (10Tim Starling) [02:14:43] tjf: Are you setting $wgServer correctly for each install? [02:14:54] reedy: yeah - $article->getTitle()->isMainPage() - doesn't seem to work with MW1.17 - http://kappa117.linode.varnent.com/index.php5?title=Main_Page [02:14:59] johnduhart, ...nope [02:15:05] heh [02:16:47] isMainPage is there from 1.18 apparnetly [02:16:54] public function isMainPage() { [02:16:54] return $this->equals( Title::newMainPage() ); [02:17:37] http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/D1 so, you can log in via GitHub Oauth now. [02:17:47] varnent, $artide->getTitle()->equals( Title::newMainPage() ); ? [02:18:58] Thing is there's no way to register accounts on that, there's no form for it. So I can go two ways with this, integration with LDAP or OAuth plugin for mw.org/labsconsole (which will probably be sloppy...) [02:20:14] * johnduhart looks at Ryan_Lane [02:21:15] Reedy: Fatal error: Call to undefined method Title::isMainPage() [02:21:32] yeah [02:21:43] hang on [02:21:47] what's that form? [02:22:21] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/109715 [02:23:29] isMainPage is there for 1.18+ [02:23:47] apparently [02:23:58] well isn't there in 1.17 [02:24:23] that seems to be the problem :/ [02:24:41] I don't want to leave the 1.17 wikis behind just yet [02:24:50] hence why i said [02:24:50] $artide->getTitle()->equals( Title::newMainPage() ); [02:24:59] newmainpage is there in 1.17 [02:25:22] hold on - let me try something - that last one might have been just a goof on my end [02:26:35] working now? [02:26:41] wait. [02:26:44] wrong channel [02:27:57] nvm - got it - didn't see the artide to article :) [02:28:22] Reedy: ty - seems to be working now: http://kappa117.linode.varnent.com/index.php5?title=Main_Page [02:31:40] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (EducationProgram.hooks.php specials/SpecialEnroll.php): fix display of tabs on enroll page and the token in the returnto arg in case people enter it via the input [02:34:56] 03oren * 10/trunk/lucene-search-3/src/main/java/org/wikimedia/lsearch/util/QueryStringMap.java: improvment in method names [02:36:18] someone just get information for ""LANGUAGES" in the sidebar please? [02:39:37] 03oren * 10/trunk/lucene-search-3/src/main/java/org/wikimedia/lsearch/analyzers/WikiQueryParser.java: eclipse organize imports + reformatted source [02:39:56] i see the SEARCH box, i see the TOOLBOX ... but i can't see the LANGUAGES box .. why ? [02:42:25] Add it [02:42:27] !sidebar [02:42:27] To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit page [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] on your wiki using its special syntax. For more details, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar [02:42:29] Wait [02:42:36] Add language links to the page? [02:42:38] !langlinks [02:42:39] Language links are links to translations of the same article on another wiki. For information on how to set up language links, see [02:43:27] ty i will try now [02:43:53] I had already seen the first link but not the second [02:53:56] 03varnent * 10/trunk/extensions/AddThis/ (AddThis.body.php AddThis.php): fix to r109715 - ty Nikerabbit & Reedy [02:55:25] 03aaron * 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/locking/LockServerDaemon.php: [02:55:25] In LockServerDaemon: [02:55:25] * Factored out LockHolder class from main class [02:55:25] * Tweaked a few socket options (using a non-blocking accept() and keep alives for new clients) [02:55:47] 03oren * 10/trunk/lucene-search-3/src/main/java/org/wikimedia/lsearch/util/QueryStringMap.java: [02:55:47] moved testing code to test code branch - to be converted into unit tests + [02:55:47] minor improvements to method names [02:56:40] 03oren * 10/trunk/lucene-search-3/src/test/java/org/wikimedia/lsearch/util/QueryStringMapTest.java: testing code to from main code branch - to be converted into unit tests [03:03:39] 03(mod) Enable Extension:FlaggedRevs for fiwiki (fi.wikipedia.org) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29742 (10kimmo.virtanen) [03:22:53] 03varnent * 10/trunk/extensions/Blackout/skins/ (ProtestSopa.php SopaStrike.php StopSopa.php): Outputs escaped per r109341 [03:32:56] ** About LANGUAGUES *** [03:32:58] it seems to install and run now ... but there are two small problems. [03:32:59] 1) The box (div) does not simensionne has the right size [03:32:59] 2) The box does not appear on all pages [03:34:28] (div to big : http://www.imagerun.info/img080/2nn4tx1h056dim46.jpg) [03:35:19] 03(mod) Control - is toggling Narayam while it must zoom out - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33875 +comment (10junu.pv+public) [03:37:38] there is a min-height somewhere in the css that causes that? [03:38:41] Yet other div resize well on their own ... [03:39:00] ... I want it displayed on every page of my wiki and there are several languages availables and I want the box to automatically to size [03:40:41] wb Yaron :p [03:40:55] Thanks! [03:41:10] My wiki is progressing well ... [03:41:31] Cool - sorry, I feel bad, but I don't remember what your wiki was. [03:41:41] Loool , np [03:42:05] you helped me there a few days in PM [03:42:27] Oh yeah, bonjour! [03:42:37] :p Bonjouuuur [03:42:40] Maintenant je me souviens. [03:42:44] héhé [03:42:49] Okay, great, then. [03:42:55] yeah! [03:43:01] i'm happy [03:43:07] is a liitle hard but ... [03:43:13] So you understand how templates work now? [03:43:20] yeah better [03:43:54] Cool. [03:44:25] I think I correctly process ... [03:44:25] but I'm also full of errors I think I definitely creates too many pages .. I do not master yet lol [03:44:53] Hi. Using medawiki 1.15 out of Debian squeeze, and for some reason most of my does not work...it seems nothing is getting written to images/math/* why might this be? (for sanity sake I granted world writable permission to images) [03:45:30] I just added Language menu in the left ... but I have little sukkah with him ... Have you had time to help me a little? [03:46:05] texvc does work (testing it manually gives me correct images), but no errors going to apache/error.log or anywhere else I can find....what's going on here? [03:46:07] djphil - you mean "success", not "sukkah", I think... [03:46:07] !packages | Crypticfortune [03:46:07] Crypticfortune: Many Linux distributions provide MediaWiki in a packaged format for that distribution. These packages typically contain obsolete and unsupported versions of MediaWiki, also they like to move around files, change the files, and do other batshit insane things. Please install the latest version from a tarball at http://www.mediawiki.org/ before asking for help. [03:46:45] sukkad = little problem Yaron [03:47:09] trouble* [03:47:14] Oh... okay. [03:47:22] is Gtranslatir :p [03:47:31] translator* [03:47:37] Weird. [03:48:07] Anyway - sorry, I don't have much time right now. [03:48:08] better than nothing [03:48:49] ok so I'll wait for someone else to help me [03:48:49] thank you anyway:) [03:49:05] Sure, good luck... [03:49:14] hehe tank's :p [03:49:44] ping someone to help me ? [03:52:35] Is there a link to a install version of 1.18 LocalSettings.php ? [04:05:09] 14(DUP) Changing editing toolbars removes the citation options - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33893 +comment (10Spitfire) [04:05:09] 03(mod) Templates of Cite collapse behind - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31983 +comment (10Spitfire) [04:06:41] 03(mod) Templates of Cite collapse behind - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31983 +comment (10Spitfire) [04:07:28] Mlpearc http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:LocalSettings.php [04:08:03] Thank you, I tried there I must of missed it :P [04:28:46] New code comment: Aaron Schulz; You do "$argv[0] = $matches[1]; // make first arg the script file name" before ever storing the orig; [04:29:16] New code comment: Aaron Schulz; Also, be sure to read my BZ comment :); [04:33:34] huh, I bet http://toolserver.org/~robla/crstats/ did worse over the past few days [04:33:44] (zoom in) [04:33:45] yup! [04:34:07] ooh, there are a lot from the last 3 days. [04:35:17] sumanah: You've been having too much fun! Get back to work! ;) [04:35:52] johnduhart: oh man, such a busy weekend. Hope we can do one sometime where it makes sense for you to attend. [04:36:15] johnduhart: I got to meet gicode and Lee Worden for the first time [04:36:18] sumanah: me too :p [04:36:24] sumanah: awesome [04:36:26] yeah! [04:36:29] they're both great [04:36:41] did you see the doc that Lee Worden did? [04:37:10] johnduhart: http://lalashan.mcmaster.ca/theobio/worden/index.php/Wikipedia_SF_Hackathon_notes http://leeworden.net/lw/node/102 How to write a MediaWiki extension that provides custom API calls and uses Ajax to invoke them [04:37:32] johnduhart: at some point after I catch my breath from the weekend, I need to ask someone to integrate them into mediawiki.org [04:38:21] also johnduhart, blobaugh is interested in taking over Max Semenik's API Sandbox work and taking it to the next level, to turn it into something like http://www.meetup.com/meetup_api/console or http://www.etsy.com/developers/documentation/resources/api_browser [04:38:56] that would be cool [04:40:24] 03santhosh * 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/specials/SpecialTranslations.php: [04:40:25] Update the help link for Special:Translations. [04:40:25] Follow up r109750 [04:40:33] johnduhart: very much agreed. We also talked about the possibility of turning it into 2 tools, one that's very complete the way Max wants, and one that's more beginner-friendly and strips out the 80% of the parameters, options, etc. that just confuse newbies [04:40:59] Like a tutorial mode? [04:41:46] New code comment: Santhosh.thottingal; There is a help link already in Special:Translations. Updated it in r109806.; [04:42:46] johnduhart: could be. blobaugh would probably be happy to work with designers to figure it out. [04:42:46] New code comment: Santhosh.thottingal; There is a help link already in Special:Translations. Updated it in r109806.; [04:43:14] blobaugh: my reflex is "two views to the same data" but that is just knee-jerk, [04:43:19] not a real design decision. [04:44:27] sumanah: I worked on this a bit eariler, http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/D1 [04:44:57] Phabricator is essentially a gerrit alternative. I want to get it set up and running so people can try it out as opposed to git [04:45:01] gerrit* [04:45:16] hmm! [04:45:22] johnduhart: that sounds interesting [04:46:39] Phabricator is hosted by OSUOSL, that's interesting to me [04:46:39] god, it really is 2012 isn't it, the sidebar links talking about Quora and GitHub and Facebook [04:46:55] ok, I'm chuckling at: "Phabricator is split into three subprojects: Phabricator itself is the web application, Arcanist is the CLI interface, and libphutil is libraries shared between them. While it may initially seem like this is needlessly confusing, you might acclimate to it eventually as it wears you down over a long period of time." [04:48:03] johnduhart: this definitely seems interesting. I have heard a lot of "wtf how in the world is the gerrit workflow gonna work?" although this weekend's work by Roan may end up helping with that [04:48:11] ok, I should go to my room, eat, and fall over [04:48:20] sumanah: good night :) [04:48:26] johnduhart: looking forward to your notes to wikitech-l et al.! [04:48:34] night. glad I got to see you on the hangout. [04:48:34] Of course! [04:48:51] mais oui! I realize that might have come across as passive-aggressive [04:49:08] I do know you always document, mail, etc. appropriately [04:49:21] Don't worry it didn't :) [04:49:30] wish everyone had such standard information hygiene :) [04:59:48] 03(mod) having SF display an 'alias' value in autocompletion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23557 +comment (10badon) [04:59:48] 14(DUP) Displaying alternate information in autocomplete dropdowns - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32891 +comment (10badon) [05:03:56] 03(mod) having SF display an 'alias' value in autocompletion - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23557 +comment (10fastgoldfish) [05:14:53] 03(mod) [SF] Special:RunQuery error takes down pages using it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33424 +comment (10fastgoldfish) [05:18:41] 03yaron * 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticCompoundQueries/SCQ_QueryProcessor.php: Fixed handling of different print requests, via new method, mergeSMWPrintRequests(); also improved some tabbing [05:20:03] 03(NEW) Linking to Patroller user group is not present in ml wikipedia. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33896 normal; Wikimedia: Bugzilla; (kirangopi84) [05:25:29] !ask [05:25:29] Hi, how can we help you? Just ask your question. [05:57:35] 03(NEW) https support for mail.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33897 normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (jayvdb) [05:58:02] 03santhosh * 10/trunk/extensions/Narayam/resources/ext.narayam.core.js: Fix Bug 33875. Control+ minus key giving keycode of 'm' [06:00:03] 03(mod) Control - is toggling Narayam while it must zoom out - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33875 +comment (10santhosh.thottingal) [06:04:24] 03(NEW) links to mailing list wikipedia-l - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33898 normal; Wikimedia: Mailing lists; (jayvdb) [06:07:12] 03(mod) links to mailing list wikipedia-l - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33898 +ops (10p858snake) [06:08:06] 03(mod) https support for mail.wikipedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33897 +ops (10p858snake) [06:11:42] 03(NEW) Request for Narayam in outreach.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33899 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Narayam; (psubhashish) [06:23:34] 03(mod) Linking to Patroller user group is not present in ml wikipedia. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33896 (10Kiran Gopi) [06:26:53] 03(mod) Request for Narayam in outreach.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33899 (10p858snake) [06:27:07] 03(mod) Request for Narayam in outreach.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33899 +shell (10p858snake) [06:31:40] 03(mod) Request for Narayam in outreach.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33899 +comment (10Srikant Kedia) [06:53:48] 03(mod) links to mailing list wikipedia-l - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33898 +comment (10Casey Brown) [07:19:01] 14(INVALID) links to mailing list wikipedia-l - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33898 +comment (10John Mark Vandenberg) [07:29:49] Hay, i have a question, i built a Logo Rotator, and im just wondering, whats stopping $wgLogo = "./Rotator.php"; from working, or am i just an idiot and you cant do that [07:30:00] mornin [07:34:44] For several hours now that I try to install and operate the languages in the left menu and I can not. A little help would be appreciated, thank you in advance. [07:42:51] 03(mod) Android app should have a better experience with no search results, Did You Mean - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31760 (10Tomasz Finc) [07:42:58] 03(ASSIGNED) Android app should have a better experience with no search results, Did You Mean - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31760 (10Tomasz Finc) [07:43:47] 03(ASSIGNED) Open Wikipedia url in the app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32667 (10Tomasz Finc) [07:44:26] 03(mod) Redo search only after moving the map in Nearby - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33360 (10Tomasz Finc) [07:59:28] djphil: What exactly are you doing, what is the expected result and what is not working? [08:03:19] can i PM my wiki URL tale ? [08:03:30] djphil: No pm. [08:03:38] kk [08:03:53] i whant add language in left menu [08:04:04] same as wikipedia website [08:04:10] http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Accueil_principal [08:04:48] and I want it to appear automatically on any [08:04:48] the pages of my wiki [08:05:49] I already installed a system of horizontal translation over the top items and! foctionne it 100% [08:05:49] but in the menu on the left I can not [08:13:01] djphil: Do you have * LANGUAGES line in your Sidebar? [08:13:21] yes [08:13:33] djphil: What version Mediawiki? [08:14:03] 1.5.x [08:14:20] djphil: No wonder, it works in 1.13 and later. [08:15:30] i have 1.15.1 [08:15:41] sorru [08:15:43] y* [08:16:17] tale: it work with 1.15.1 ... [08:17:43] 03(mod) [SF] Special:RunQuery error takes down pages using it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33424 (10contrafibularity) [08:19:21] 03(mod) mw.util.$content is undefined in MediaWiki:Common.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33711 +comment (10listenleser) [08:21:26] ?? [08:32:27] tale : ??? [08:33:42] 03aaron * 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 2 dirs): [08:33:42] * Added some wfProfileIn() calls to file backend code. [08:33:42] * Made FileBackend::getFileProps() final. [08:33:42] * Added exception needed in SwiftFileBackend::getConnection(). [08:33:42] * Various FileBackendTests fixes and additions. Optimized it a bit by keeping the backend instance in memory. [08:37:46] New code comment: Schnark; The tooltip doesn't show up for named refs with special characters, instead an error is thrown. Try ; [08:38:18] 03(mod) alt and title attributes for images are inconsistent and confusing. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24586 (10vlakoff) [08:40:15] *** would it be possible to get help please? *** [08:49:20] off topic question ... can somone tell me what today's google doodle is about? just wanna know if it's local or global? [08:49:50] freakolowsky: no doodle in France [08:50:08] k, so i guess it's local [08:52:17] freakolowsky: looks like it is bound to the .si domain. http://www.google.si/ give me the doodle [08:54:03] hi [08:54:06] it's the hours I'm looking on google and it does not help me to understand and solve my problem. Occasionally human help is useful ... [08:54:24] so true :) [08:54:40] isn't a support chaneml here ? Is only for Dev's ? [08:54:50] chanel* [08:54:55] djphil: already asked your question? [08:55:02] ho yes! [08:55:25] several times already ... for many hours ... [08:55:41] hi my wiki is getting spammed although I have captchas enabled. [08:56:12] Is there a way to do like german wikipedia - changes are not public until patrolled? [08:58:49] that's "flagged revisions" [08:59:11] the user will see their own edit but the public won't til it's approved [08:59:25] apergos: that was what I was looking for thanks [08:59:36] sure [09:01:16] tstaerk: you can also choose another captcha engine [09:01:37] tstaerk: the math one is weak [09:02:00] hashar: the captchas work, but some dull idiot goes as in human-as-a-service [09:02:19] and inputs them, then he spams me [09:03:13] 03oren * 10/trunk/lucene-search-3/src/main/java/org/wikimedia/lsearch/analyzers/WikiQueryParser.java: some comments [09:08:39] djphil: Have you set up the wiki family? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Interlanguage_links [09:09:03] no [09:09:12] i don't use wiki familly [09:09:55] i have only one wiki, in multilinguage tale [09:11:26] djphil: Give the URL to your wiki. Consider updating to 1.18.1. Tell how you have set up that multilanguage thing, and be more specific in telling what does not work. [09:11:48] i use 5.3.1 and i can't update it now [09:12:31] URL go to PM [09:13:01] djphil: Remove the ending S from LANGUAGES in Sidebar. I.e. It should be * LANGUAGE [09:13:12] ok [09:13:58] haaaaa tank's [09:14:26] wait for hours just for this little mistake, lol arffff [09:15:53] isn't there a way to slice a string in PHP ? [09:15:59] and now that it's ok, I have to do what? tale [09:16:12] hashar: Slice? [09:16:13] something like $string[0] to get the first char? [09:16:15] djphil: Set up the wiki family. [09:16:44] it mandatory? tale [09:16:54] well $string[0] happens to work :)) [09:17:15] djphil: I only know what the documents say. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Interlanguage_links [09:17:26] TimStarling: I have a note on the image embed whitelist [09:18:27] my wiki is multilingue without wiki familly tale ... you can see it [09:18:40] then why you say its mandatory ? [09:19:05] you can see the horizontal translotion on all page ... and it work ! [09:19:26] why i can't do same for left menu ? [09:19:33] tale [09:20:28] wiki familly use requiere many wiki's ... [09:21:18] i don't whant that, i whant only one wiki ... but in many différent languages [09:25:53] tale: the documentation you show me is not my setup a wiki [09:27:08] tale: and yet my wiki currently works in several languages ​​with the Language bar horizontal I installed ... [09:27:29] tale: that without familly wiki [09:28:09] tale: why should I install wiki familly for the horizontal menu? It makes no sense ... [09:49:16] 03(NEW) Request for config change to allow more than 7 usernames to be created during an outreach event (temporarily for a few hours on Jan 25 from a particular IP address) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33900 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (hisham) [09:53:25] 03(mod) Translation of "Wikipedia" namespace in Assamese for Assamese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33507 15enhancement->normal; +comment (10Siebrand) [09:54:45] 03(mod) Translation of "Wikipedia" namespace in Assamese for Assamese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33507 +i18n (10Siebrand) [09:55:31] 03(mod) Translation of "Wikipedia" namespace in Assamese for Assamese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33507 +comment (10s.mazeland) [09:58:03] 03(mod) Increase account creation limits on en.wikipedia and bn.wikipedia for an outreach event (Jan 25) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33900 +shell; summary; +comment (10p858snake) [10:00:31] New code comment: Hashar; Looks like the file backend is missing a recursive deletion function :/; [10:14:17] New code comment: Hashar; the common* CSS only apply to MonoBook and Vector skins. commonElements.css already has the 100% wid; [10:15:16] New code comment: Schuellersa; both works \ you can use a constant or literal as well: \ define(MY_CONSTANT, 'aMemberVar'); \ print $; [10:34:25] 03maxsem * 10/trunk/extensions/ApiSandbox/SpecialApiSandbox.php: Sort query modules [10:34:46] New code comment: Hashar; # Delete the thumbnails \ $this->repo->cleanupBatch( $purgeList ); \ # Clear out the thumbnail direct; [10:37:31] New code comment: Nikerabbit; I know it work, but is there any particular reason for it?; [10:43:02] New code comment: Nikerabbit; wfMsg doesn't take 'escape'.; [10:44:46] New code comment: Schuellersa; not realy =); [10:49:48] 03maxsem * 10/trunk/extensions/GeoData/ (ApiQueryCoordinates.php ApiQueryGeoSearch.php): Follow-up r108676: fix undefined variable notices [10:54:25] 03maxsem * 10/trunk/extensions/GeoData/ApiQueryCoordinates.php: Add dim to props [10:56:01] New code comment: Nikerabbit; Should there be a comment that it is only public for testing, and should not be used otherwise?; [10:59:06] 03hashar * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/backend/ (FileBackend.php lockmanager/LockManagerGroup.php): get a null lock manager by default [10:59:34] 04(REOPENED) [SF] undefined function get_called_class() SF_FormInput.php on line 286 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33832 +comment (10f.trott) [11:03:50] 03hashar * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/backend/FileBackend.php: [11:03:50] cleanly handle wikiId on FileBackendBase construction [11:03:50] Use the default array added by r109814 [11:04:48] siebrand, please don't defer GeoData commits [11:09:47] New code comment: Nikerabbit; Maybe you should pull Coord::$fieldMapping[$prop] into variable.; [11:10:36] MaxSem: it might make sense to defer them now, do full review before deployment and then not defer anymore [11:11:32] they should be deferred by reviewer, then [11:16:02] 03maxsem * 10/trunk/extensions/GeoData/ (ApiQueryCoordinates.php ApiQueryGeoSearch.php): Help urls, added dim to geosearch props, too [11:28:57] Hi there. What's a good way of cleaning up an old wiki? I'm taking over this infrastructure and I find a lot of old, out-dated and irrelevant articles in this wiki which I'm deleting, but how can I find orphans which I cannot stumble upon? [11:32:30] Shapeshifter, Special:AllPages [11:32:50] MaxSem: thanks [11:39:17] 03(NEW) Empty properties not ignored in subobjects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33901 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (ly.meng.work) [11:42:36] * hashar got lost in filerepo :-( [11:48:33] So are we going to remain in "slush" for the next few months? [11:48:49] I do recall that it started, but it's not clear which requirements should be met to end it... [11:48:56] Or are there? [11:51:13] 03sbachenberg * 10/trunk/extensions/SolrStore/ (SolrTalker.php SpecialSolrSearch.php): * Added better Wildcard Support [11:51:36] * Dantman contemplates the abuse of history.pushState on redirect pages [11:53:47] 03sbachenberg * 10/trunk/extensions/SolrStore/SpecialSolrSearch.php: Fixed: Error from last commit [11:59:57] MaxSem: and who is your revierer? [12:00:33] eventually, there will be one ;) [12:04:49] http://p.defau.lt/?L0vMXJxpXgUrLap7OtTi8w [12:09:15] siebrand: When 1.19 is branched iirc [12:10:13] 03(mod) Enable HTTPS for mail.wiki[mp]edia.org and redirect to lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33897 summary; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [12:13:29] * hashar goes out to lunch [12:21:06] 03(NEW) mw.Uri.decode( "%2B" ) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33902 normal; MediaWiki: Javascript; (fomafix) [12:29:11] hi, I'm trying to change default timezone in mediawiki, but it doesn't work [12:32:40] Hi in mediawiki 1.15.5-2squeeze2 we get an error: Warning: call_user_func_array() expects parameter 1 to be a valid callback, class 'OutputPage' does not have a method 'setTitle' in /usr/share/mediawiki/includes/StubObject.php on line 58 [12:32:40] anyone aware of this error? google doesn't find anything. we rather stay on the debian stable version, hence the older version [12:35:39] !packages | BartJol [12:35:39] BartJol: Many Linux distributions provide MediaWiki in a packaged format for that distribution. These packages typically contain obsolete and unsupported versions of MediaWiki, also they like to move around files, change the files, and do other batshit insane things. Please install the latest version from a tarball at http://www.mediawiki.org/ before asking for help. [12:36:48] thank johnduhart, already was afraid of something like that :) [12:37:33] I'll go to the package maintainer [12:48:57] :o [12:49:01] yes 1.15 is very old [12:50:54] 03oren * 10/trunk/lucene-search-3/src/main/java/org/apache/lucene/search/PositionalQuery.java: Since these class could not inherit the missing parts introduced from original implementation [12:53:53] 03oren * 10/trunk/lucene-search-3/src/main/java/org/apache/lucene/search/PositionalMultiQuery.java: Since this class could not inherit, the missing parts are introduced from original implementation [13:08:35] siebrand: I have no idea how long code freeze will last [13:09:04] the next step might be to put the SVN repo under read only mode? :D [13:10:40] hashar: technical measures for social problem? [13:11:08] which social problem are you referring to? [13:11:31] svn is supposed to be replaced by git [13:14:07] 03(NEW) jQuery tablesorter tests intermittent failure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33903 normal; MediaWiki: Unit tests; (niklas.laxstrom) [13:14:51] hashar: the social problem that the persons who can do code review are not doing it and those who are just learning can't review the harder ones [13:14:56] hashar: see also that bug ^^ [13:18:02] 03(mod) jQuery tablesorter tests intermittent failure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33903 +comment (10Siebrand) [13:26:28] 03(FIXED) When re-marking translatable page for translation, old version of the pages might be shown - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31632 +comment (10Siebrand) [13:28:39] 03(mod) ISBN, RFC and PMID "magic links" might support non-breaking spaces ( ) too - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28950 (10vlakoff) [13:28:43] 03(mod) Magic links are inconsistent with common parser rules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29025 (10vlakoff) [13:32:37] 03(mod) Narayam IME on fails to replace English characters on mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33243 summary (10Siebrand) [13:32:41] 03(mod) Narayam IME on fails to replace English characters on mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33243 +i18n (10Siebrand) [13:35:01] New code comment: Nikerabbit; So, I think it is only about how it affects the DOM/HTML structure or whatever, and not that the sty; [13:36:01] New code comment: Nikerabbit; Doesn't affect WMF.; [13:40:24] 03(mod) MediaWiki needs a sane notification system (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32281 +comment (10Siebrand) [13:41:18] 03(mod) Special:AllMessages should allow diff between original and customized message - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31900 +comment (10Siebrand) [13:42:39] 03(mod) Introduce call: modifier - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31685 +comment (10Siebrand) [13:46:00] 03(mod) The tag is sanitized - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31817 normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Siebrand) [13:52:32] 03(mod) Improve the wording of gender selection option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31816 normal->15enhancement; +i18n; +comment (10Siebrand) [13:57:15] 03(mod) Sidebar ignores templates in MediaWiki 1.18 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33766 +comment (10Siebrand) [13:57:32] guillom, about? [13:58:02] MaxSem, yes [13:59:17] guillom, we're in process of scheduling a FeaturedFeeds deployment and would like some outreach [13:59:37] you look like the right person to contact about it:) [14:00:55] MaxSem, first off, what's FeaturedFeeds? :) [14:01:37] well, since you mentioned it in your December report, I thought that you know:) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FeaturedFeeds [14:03:28] Ah, that. Well, it wasn't the same name in the report, and tomasz added that. [14:03:30] Anyway [14:03:30] how does it work that a job from the job queue is triggered by a page load but then runs independently (afaik)? [14:03:59] MaxSem, what's the goal of the outreach? Getting people to do/change stuff, or just letting them know of a new functionality? [14:04:55] guillom, outreach is especially important here because this extension needs to be set up by local admins to function [14:06:08] there are instructions at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FeaturedFeeds/WMF_deployment [14:06:45] MaxSem, ok, then I'd recommend a blog post on the tech blog, and advertise the post on wikitech-l, wikitech-ambassadors, etc. I can help review the blog post and disseminate the info to the lists; if needed we can also use the global delivery system. [14:06:49] but people will need to know that there's a new thingie and where they can ask for help with it [14:07:11] great [14:08:58] Hi guys! [14:09:12] Is there a way to check the usage of interwikilinks in my wiki? [14:09:36] 03(mod) Uncategorizedpages-summary not shown in Uncategorizedpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33762 +comment (10Siebrand) [14:10:03] Background is that I want to remove rows from the interwiki table. But how can I say, if links using these entries exist? [14:11:32] New code comment: Santhosh.thottingal; some more explanation: Keycode of - is 109, but String.fromCharCode(109 ) gives 'm'. Keycode we get; [14:12:32] New code comment: Reedy;
     \ + $relFile = $argv[0]; \ + \ + # Check if a --wiki param was given... \ + # Maintenance.php will tre; 
    [14:15:01] 	 New code comment: Siebrand; Suspect for [[bugzilla:33520]]: $wgMaxRedirects totally broke at some point; 
    [14:17:17] 	 03oren *  10/trunk/lucene-search-3/src/ (16 files in 6 dirs):
    [14:17:17] 	 upgrade to lucene 2.9.4
    [14:17:17] 	 * api does not support tokenStream(string,string) only tokenStream(string,reader) so wrapped second string with a StringReader
    [14:17:17] 	 * removed some redundant methods
    [14:17:17] 	 * other api adjustments
    [14:17:31] 	 New code comment: Reedy; Oh..; 
    [14:18:06] 	 03oren *  10/trunk/lucene-search-3/pom.xml: replaced with a source build type pom
    [14:23:11] 	 User in Mediawiki database has new e-mail address and has forgotten password. How can I change the e-mail address?
    [14:24:36] 	 hashar: help! collapsible sidebar is not working :<
    [14:24:51] 	 what is collapsible sidebar? :-)
    [14:25:00] 	 tale: just add new password
    [14:25:00] 	 is that a JS gadget?
    [14:25:19] 	 tale: I would just do it in the database directly: Look at the table "user" and change the password.
    [14:25:30] 	 Nikerabbit: I can do that, but it does not help with the e-mail address.
    [14:25:37] 	 No, change the e-mail of couse. ;-)
    [14:25:39] 	 hashar: no, it's part of vector
    [14:25:44] 	 DerJoerg: In database e-mail is BLOB, how can I edit that?
    [14:26:30] 	 OK, you should be able to change it to text, edit it and change it back to blob. (I see a normal text field in my DB here...)
    [14:26:56] 	 hashar: it's probably similar issue to the bug I just reported
    [14:27:00] 	 Nikerabbit: looks like it is the Vector extension. I do not have it
    [14:27:00] 	 it happens only sometimes
    [14:27:03] 	 there is no error though
    [14:27:05] 	 DerJoerg: I look with PHPMyADmin, it show only it is BLOB.
    [14:27:19] 	 DerJoerg: oh god no
    [14:27:28] 	 Nikerabbit: please report the bug :D
    [14:27:32] 	 DerJoerg: Don't mess with the column types
    [14:27:45] 	 tale: You should be able to edit it
    [14:28:30] 	 03(mod) http://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:UncategorizedPages problem - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33817  +comment (10Beta16)
    [14:28:35] 	 MediaWiki should save UTF-8 in these columns anyway. So where is the problem in temproarily setting it to text with a UTF-8 collation?
    [14:29:51] 	 03(mod) jQuery tablesorter tests intermittent failure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33903  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
    [14:30:07] 	 tale: can't you just use raw sql?
    [14:30:52] 	 Nikerabbit: I can modify the database, but that BLOB seems a problem. How can I know what is the format it uses?
    [14:31:21] 	 it's utf-8 text, stored as a blob
    [14:31:46] 	 Hmm, I'll try, perhaps exmerimenting a bit shows me how it is done.
    [14:33:26] 	 DerJoerg: Because it takes a long time on a install with many users and you run the risk of fucking up your user tanle
    [14:34:49] 	 What will happen to the user table (except that it might take a bit longer)?
    [14:36:48] 	 03(mod) Control - is toggling Narayam while it must zoom out - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33875  +comment (10srik.lak)
    [14:37:34] 	 03(NEW) Speedup nested group authentication when using Active Directory LDAP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33904 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: LdapAuthentication; (asbjorn)
    [14:39:53] 	 *call 911 NAO*
    [14:40:01] 	 oops wrong window
    [14:40:03] 	 :D
    [14:40:06] 	 niceone
    [14:40:27] 	 03(mod) Linking to Patroller user group is not present in ml wikipedia. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33896  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
    [14:40:46] 	 listening to Skrillex
    [14:40:58] 	 ugly URLs for spam protection!
    [14:41:11] 	 03(NEW) Contact Info Specialpage established on installation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33905 normal; MediaWiki: Installation; (jidanni)
    [14:41:36] 	 03(mod) Contact Info Specialpage established on installation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33905  (10jidanni)
    [14:44:59] 	 03(mod) Translation of "Wikipedia" namespace in Assamese for Assamese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33507  +comment (10sam)
    [14:46:18] 	 03(NEW) Class '.Z3988' is rendered invisible in both mobile wikipedia and android-app for WP without cause. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33906 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: generic; (gnu1742)
    [14:48:46] 	 New code comment: Reedy; Re-educating users to give the full path (though, that is what they are more traditionally used to) ; 
    [14:48:55] 	 03hashar *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/backend/FileOp.php:
    [14:48:56] 	 FileOp: allow creation of an empty file
    [14:48:56] 	 When creating a file but ommitting the 'content' key, it would throw
    [14:48:56] 	 a notice. Using getParams let us forget about the 'content' key and
    [14:48:56] 	 hence create files with no content.
    [14:50:59] 	 03hashar *  10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
    [14:50:59] 	 FileRepo: check constructor parameters
    [14:50:59] 	 new FileRepo() requires an array of parameters having at least the
    [14:50:59] 	 'name' and 'backend' key setup.
    [14:50:59] 	 TODO: 'backend' keyword should probably default to FileBackend.
    [14:52:39] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/tools/mwmultiversion/multiversion/MWScript.php:
    [14:52:39] 	 Reverting out changes to MWScript.php from r109711, r109739
    [14:52:39] 	 Leaving changes to MWVersion.php intact
    [14:53:14] 	 Nikerabbit: I can't reproduce your issue with vector collapsibles menus
    [14:59:34] 	 03(mod) $wgUsersNotifiedOnAllChanges should not send e-mail to user who made the edit. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33880  normal->minor (10Sam Reed (reedy))
    [15:04:25] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES-1.19 includes/UserMailer.php): Bug 33880 - $wgUsersNotifiedOnAllChanges should not send e-mail to user who made the edit.
    [15:04:44] 	 03(FIXED) $wgUsersNotifiedOnAllChanges should not send e-mail to user who made the edit. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33880  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
    [15:06:35] 	 03(mod) mw.Uri.decode( "%2B" ) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33902   +need-review +patch (10Sam Reed (reedy))
    [15:07:02] 	 04(REOPENED) Make mwscript.php also look in WikimediaMaintenance - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33284  -need-review -patch ; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
    [15:07:07] 	 03(mod) Contact Info Specialpage established on installation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33905  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
    [15:07:12] 	 03(mod) Make mwscript.php also look in WikimediaMaintenance - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33284  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
    [15:07:53] 	 03(mod) Enable HTTPS for mail.wiki[mp]edia.org and redirect to lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33897  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
    [15:08:19] 	 03(mod) Increase account creation limits on en.wikipedia and bn.wikipedia for an outreach event (Jan 25) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33900  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
    [15:08:48] 	 03(mod) Request for Narayam in outreach.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33899  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
    [15:10:06] 	 03(mod) Linking to Patroller user group is not present in ml wikipedia. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33896  +comment (10sam)
    [15:10:39] 	 moinin'
    [15:11:51] 	 03(mod) Request for Narayam in outreach.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33899   +i18n (10Sam Reed (reedy))
    [15:12:13] 	 hashar: not surprising
    [15:12:20] 	 03(mod) Class '.Z3988' is rendered invisible in both mobile wikipedia and android-app for WP without cause. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33906  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
    [15:12:46] 	 New code comment: Hashar; byg 33906 complains about Z3988 class being hidden.; 
    [15:13:04] 	 I have a question pertaining to sql tables I am hoping someone might be able to clear up for me. I am looking to create a new table for custom purposes to store some meta data that I derive from page_title by parsing it with some sql functions. Specifically, I would like to store the page language, the software version and a crc32 of the version, in a seperate table that references the rev id of the revision table
    [15:13:23] 	 Nikerabbit: so that only happens on twn.net ?
    [15:14:32] 	 My question is one of trying to figure out if there are any cases where the page title might change (move/rename/redirect etc) and invalidate my join tables fields. Ultimately, the goal is to have the metadata be always up to date for a given rivision, which assumes the page_title doesn't change. Does this sound ok?
    [15:15:45] 	 baahhh
    [15:15:49] 	 The theory is that when I want to update the metadata table, I would only need to add new entries from the revision table that aren't already in the metadata table
    [15:15:55] 	 Sue is opening bugs! :))
    [15:16:09] 	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33888  - Requesting a user-centred rethink of how watchlists work
    [15:16:21] 	 now, to sit patiently and await an sql guru! :)
    [15:18:45] 	 03(mod) $wgUsersNotifiedOnAllChanges should not send e-mail to user who made the edit. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33880  +comment (10wiki)
    [15:22:31] 	 hashar: got an CI issue
    [15:23:38] 	 xUnit seems to be interfering with junit test runs
    [15:24:16] 	 this makes my builds fail
    [15:24:37] 	 03(mod) Requesting a user-centred rethink of how watchlists work - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33888  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
    [15:24:58] 	 OrenWrk: is that an issue with lucene-search-3 jobs on jenkins?
    [15:25:05] 	 on our production jenkins?
    [15:25:50] 	 Lucene-search-3 jobs
    [15:26:03] 	 is there another one ?
    [15:26:31] 	 I have manually triggered it again and it show a success
    [15:26:34] 	 https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/Lucene-Search-3/19/console
    [15:28:35] 	 hashar: for now yes
    [15:28:54] 	 http://pastebin.com/3ud0ix7i
    [15:29:24] 	 https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/Lucene-Search-3/18/console :)
    [15:29:37] 	 interesting
    [15:30:06] 	 03(mod) Contact Info Specialpage established on installation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33905  (10jidanni)
    [15:30:28] 	 you got no unit test running there 
    [15:30:46] 	 so of course it is ij
    [15:30:48] 	 so of course it is ok
    [15:31:26] 	 sumanah: manah manah! :)
    [15:31:51] 	 hi troubled!  boop bee ba dee boo.
    [15:32:37] 	 OrenWrk: that stack trace seems to indicate that no JUnit output was found
    [15:32:53] 	 OrenWrk: I can't find any trace of JUnit being run before that trace
    [15:36:07] 	 it no longer being generated
    [15:37:42] 	 oooh, phabricator has a spelling linter
    [15:37:53] 	 OrenWrk: not sure I got it :/
    [15:38:26] 	 hmm, perhaps I should rephrase my question. Does anyone know of a situation where page_title for a particular page_id will ever change its characters via any mechanism like page moves or renames etc?
    [15:39:52] 	 03(mod) Entries for non-existent categories should be deleted from the 'category' table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26411  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [15:40:35] 	 troubled: you can ask mediawiki-l if no one answers you here right now, but you know that
    [15:40:41] 	 a lot of the San Francisco crew hasn't woken yet
    [15:40:55] 	 and some people from elsewhere are in SF because there was a hackthon this past weekend here
    [15:41:00] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Hackathon_January_2012
    [15:41:20] 	 sumanah: thanks for the suggestions. Just trying for irc as a first attempt :)
    [15:41:41] 	 I'll have a look at it later tonight - got to go study
    [15:41:53] 	 pretty sure I will be fine, but I hardly know what weird edge cases might exist that might break my logic
    [15:42:09] 	 sure, no prob troubled, I understand.
    [15:43:17] 	 03(mod) Translation of "Wikipedia" namespace in Assamese for Assamese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33507  +comment (10santhosh.thottingal)
    [15:44:32] 	 03(mod) Proofread extension JS loading fully broken on 1.19 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33873  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [15:44:32] 	 03(mod) Milestone: MediaWiki 1.19 (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29097  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [15:46:17] 	 hashar have a look at it now
    [15:46:22] 	 03(mod) Translation of "Wikipedia" namespace in Assamese for Assamese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33507  +comment (10sam)
    [15:46:24] 	 03(mod) API: add normalized info also for unicode normalization of titles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27849  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [15:46:27] 	 03(mod) Milestone: MediaWiki 1.19 (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29097  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [15:46:27] 	 03(mod) Implement ResourceLoader 2.0 (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29272  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [15:46:29] 	 03(mod) Milestone: MediaWiki 1.19 (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29097  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [15:46:30] 	 03(mod) [PrefixSearch] Namespace name part of prefix search query should not override given namespace id(s) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22773  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [15:46:31] 	 03(mod) Installer: database selection JS is flaky on page=DBConnect with Opera - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33506  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [15:46:32] 	 03(mod) jquery.byteLimit should allow the limit to be reached - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29804  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [15:46:32] 	 - I think it is an issue with publishing results
    [15:46:34] 	 03(mod) Implement $wgResourcesPath and $wgResourcesDirectory in 1.19 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31173  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [15:46:36] 	 03(mod) Fix inability to remove invalid titles from watchlist (both SpecialWatchlist/edit and SpecialWatchlist/raw) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28936  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [15:46:36] 	 03(mod) Implement a way to set a canonical url in OutputPage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28602  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [15:46:38] 	 test results
    [15:46:38] 	 03(mod) Entries for non-existent categories should be deleted from the 'category' table - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26411  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [15:47:20] 	 OrenWrk: does it work on your local machine?
    [15:48:06] 	 OrenWrk: the output does not seem to show that any JUnit test is run
    [15:49:11] 	 Do jobs from the Job Queue run detached after they've been started by a page call? And how is that implemented? Is it done by forking or does MediaWiki flush the content to the browser and tells it that all contents have been delivered before it runs a job?
    [15:49:12] 	 03(mod) Milestone: MediaWiki 1.19 (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29097  +comment (10mah)
    [15:49:19] 	 some pass and a few fail
    [15:49:34] 	 03(mod) MediaWiki needs a sane notification system (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32281  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
    [15:49:52] 	 so basicly it works
    [15:50:25] 	 hi hexmode 
    [15:50:28] 	 what is the maven target?  Jenkins uses the 'site' target
    [15:50:42] 	 OrenWrk: maybe it should be 'build' or 'all' or I don't know what
    [15:51:05] 	 sumanah: hey... just about to schedule a 1.19 deployment blocker triage
    [15:51:29] 	 good to know, hexmode!  how goes it, scheduling the code review meetings, and drilling down on the Core tag?
    [15:51:32] 	 sec
    [15:51:38] 	 sumanah: also thinking of a mobile triage for next week... will talk to TFinc aout that when he gets in
    [15:51:57] 	 hexmode: hmm, what's most urgent though?
    [15:52:01] 	 site is ok
    [15:52:04] 	 sumanah: 2 CR meetings this week, today and tomorrow
    [15:52:11] 	 since test are part of reporting
    [15:52:37] 	 tr|nn|, looking at $wgJobRunRate would probably help you
    [15:53:12] 	 tr|nn|, for wikipedia et al, we don't use that, but instead have processes on specific servers that deal with them, so they are very much async
    [15:55:37] 	 OrenWrk: how can I launch the build manually?  :)
    [15:55:46] 	 sumanah: siebrand just said "please help thaw the slush" so that is probably most important ;)
    [15:55:59] 	 hexmode: there you go :-)
    [15:56:05] 	 hexmode: so, how?
    [15:56:16] 	 OrenWrk: mvn -o site -f workspace/pom.xml  complains about missing javadoc plugin
    [15:58:29] 	 sumanah: CR meeting today and tomorrow, 1.18 blocker review Wed.  Maybe a couple more CR meetings on Thu and Fri with devs who weren't in Mon/Tue
    [15:58:39] 	 great, thanks hexmode 
    [15:58:44] 	 Reedy, thx. I seem to not find a hint about whether or not and if so how Jobs from the Job Queue are run detached from a page load (and in the background) from looking at $wgJobRunRate (but sometimes I really seem to be peering). It's good to know that wikipedia et al are not using job queues
    [15:58:58] 	 Guys, could you point me to the templates specification.. Can't find any full and strict.
    [15:59:31] 	 tr|nn|, well, we are using it, just not in it's default setup
    [15:59:43] 	 we use it for long running things like user renames among others
    [16:00:44] 	 izhak: not sure there is one! what have you found so far?
    [16:00:50] 	 25 fixmes left
    [16:01:47] 	 sumanah: well, what I have now is a xml dump :) from which I can take some information about their grammar.
    [16:04:32] 	 izhak: are there no docs on mediawiki.org ?
    [16:04:49] 	 Hmm, any news of a 2012 WMDE hackathon yet?
    [16:04:51] 	 izhak: once Gabriel Wicke wakes up he  might be able to help you, or you could send an email to wikitext-l
    [16:04:57] 	 Lcawte: probably in May
    [16:05:03] 	 Lcawte: I am chasing WMDE to ask them to set the date
    [16:05:16] 	 xml dumps
    [16:05:17] 	 cool :)
    [16:05:18] * apergos  perks up
    [16:05:51] 	 03(mod) Translation of "Wikipedia" namespace in Assamese for Assamese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33507  +comment (10santhosh.thottingal)
    [16:08:45] 	 03hashar *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/DefaultSettings.php: update wgUsersNotifiedOnAllChanges doc (r109826)
    [16:11:42] 	 03(mod) Remove redundant CSS from chick/main.css - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33494  normal->15enhancement (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [16:11:48] 	 03(mod) "Download as PDF" outputs A4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33882  +comment (10Jarry1250)
    [16:12:32] 	 03(mod) Re-point $wgLogo to $stdlogo on zhwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33841   +shell (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [16:13:05] 	 03(mod) Build errors on fresh setup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33842  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [16:13:25] 	 03jpostlethwaite *  10/trunk/phase3/resources/jquery/jquery.cycle.all.js: Adding the jquery cycle plugin. This is being used by the UnitTest extension. See r109762.
    [16:14:08] 	 Lcawte: believe me, as soon as we find out the date, I'll mail wikitech-l and put it on the developers' meetings wiki page.
    [16:14:22] 	 sumanah: can't wait, might be able to make this one...
    [16:14:31] 	 03(mod) build.xml has default target "help" but target "help" does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33843  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [16:15:15] 	 Lcawte: great! 
    [16:15:24] 	 Should be able to fly out Friday night and leave sometime Sunday or very early Monday morning ^.^ , thats of course if I can afford it ^.^
    [16:15:46] 	 03(mod) File errors shown at Special:MovePage and Special:Upload are displayed wrongly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33846  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [16:16:06] 	 Hmm, I'm trying to remember what Roan said about Customs / Immigration and under (16/18s)
    [16:16:33] 	 Lcawte: you could possibly ask WMDE whether they are providing scholarships.
    [16:16:33] 	 sumanah: I'm afraid there is no grammar for templates on mediawiki.org, only for non-templates stuff.
    [16:16:51] 	 izhak: I highly recommend you bring this up on wikitext-l, the parsers/etc. mailing list
    [16:17:11] 	 03(mod) ApiQueryArticleFeedback::getUserRatings db queries can be very expensive - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33851  normal->15enhancement (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [16:17:16] 	 sumanah: yeah, or WMUK...
    [16:17:31] 	 New code comment: Jpostlethwaite; I spoke to Roan about adding this at the SF Hackathon. \ This is the latest version of the script v2.; 
    [16:17:35] 	 sumanah: Ok, i'll look around yet more, and maybe after.
    [16:18:02] 	 thanks izhak 
    [16:18:05] 	 Hmm, airlines run 24/7 right... what time would I need to leave for the Hotel in Germany to get home for school in the morning (considering I need a train back from London as well lol)
    [16:18:58] 	 Most airlines don't fly much passed midnight to 5 or 6am
    [16:19:12] 	 03(mod) Open Wikipedia url in the app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32667  (10thomaspt)
    [16:19:45] 	 That'd be an interesting story getting into school this morning... "Why are you not doing any work this morning Lewis", "Well, Sir, my plane landed at Gatwick 3 hours ago and I've been up since 3AM GMT+1"
    [16:19:52] 	 Lcawte, try doing a connection through schipol, had to run across the airport and got there as they were closing the gate... I had an exam in the morning, so if I missed the flight, there was no way to get back
    [16:20:32] 	 lol, nice... Schipol is the only airport I've flown into... and Gatwick the only one out of ^.^
    [16:20:35] 	 03ialex *  10/trunk/extensions/ (15 files in 4 dirs): svn:eol-style native
    [16:22:19] 	 "Children under 14 years MUST be accompanied by an adult aged 16 or over. Unaccompanied children will not be permitted to board the aircraft." Ok, so does that mean under 14s have to be accompanied and anyone over is fine or any under 16 has to be accompanied?
    [16:22:44] 	 03(mod) Creation of a new namespace for Malagasy Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33166   +shell (10Sam Reed (reedy))
    [16:23:14] 	 Hmm, well I could fly out of Berlin at 7, get back at gatwick for 8, but I'd miss the first two or three lessons of the school day by the time I get a train back...
    [16:23:16] 	 Lcawte: looks like the former
    [16:23:20] 	 03(WONTFIX) Request for a Dutch version of labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16812  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
    [16:24:47] 	 May flights seem to be expensive on Easyjey :/
    [16:24:56] 	 Wow making phabricator linters is easy
    [16:24:56] 	 I was thinking about driving
    [16:25:05] 	 Maybe that's because THEY'RE WRITTEN IN PHP
    [16:25:06] 	 johnduhart, stop procrastinating
    [16:25:34] 	 Reedy: :9
    [16:25:36] 	 :( *
    [16:25:42] 	 I don't think I can go Ryanair either, I think they have a strict 16+ policy...
    [16:27:19] 	 03ialex *  10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
    [16:27:19] 	 Cleanup to statistics:
    [16:27:19] 	 * Removed 'pcache_miss_invalid' from stats.php and clear_stats.php, no longer used
    [16:27:19] 	 * Added missing 'job-insert' and 'job-pop' to clear_stats.php
    [16:27:19] 	 * Added missing call to wfIncrStats( 'pcache_miss_absent' ) when there's no key in ParserCacge::get()
    [16:27:20] 	 * Removed useless 'pcache_not_possible' stat from OutputPage::addWikiTextTitle() since that function is mostly used for interface messages
    [16:28:08] 	 Ah, Standsted-Berlin looks better on Easyjety
    [16:28:38] 	 03(mod) Create a wiki for the future chapter Wikimedia M�xico - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29758  +comment (10sam)
    [16:29:38] 	 umm, nope, still �100+ ... can't wait until September, I get a choice of any airline I can afford...
    [16:31:13] 	 03(mod) Request for a Dutch version of labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16812  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
    [16:32:34] 	 03(NEW) Please create a Marathi Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33907 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (Gerard.meijssen)
    [16:33:10] 	 03(mod) Request for a Dutch version of labs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16812  +comment (10hartman)
    [16:33:21] 	 03(mod) Create a wiki for the future chapter Wikimedia M�xico - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29758  +comment (10danny.leinad)
    [16:34:43] 	 Reedy: how long does that take O.o
    [16:34:51] 	 03(mod) Enable HTTPS for mail.wiki[mp]edia.org and redirect to lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33897  +comment (10hashar)
    [16:35:35] 	 Lcawte, 14 hours + channel crossing
    [16:35:40] 	 nice lol
    [16:36:38] 	 03(mod) Please create a Marathi Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33907  (10Hydra)
    [16:36:41] 	 03(mod) Wikis waiting for creation (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16976  (10Hydra)
    [16:36:56] 	 Hmm, know anyone that would lend me a helicopter and fuel for the weekend... thats got to be twice as long as an easy jet flight, but you get choice of crossing times right?
    [16:37:27] 	 03(mod) Please create a Marathi Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33907  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
    [16:38:23] 	 Need a license for that
    [16:38:28] 	 and it's 18 to fly solo IIRC
    [16:39:31] 	 Uhh, I have a helicopter, and I'm a 15 year old flying it, I doubt they'll send a flighter jet to shoot me down... I mean, the press would have an absolute field day with that story...
    [16:39:51] 	 And speaking of Hackathon, feedback pl0x? 
    [16:41:23] 	 I'd have a look at Eurostar, but I have to wait until Februray to look at may times & dates, and that doesn't go to Berlin directly...
    [16:46:55] 	 I love the channel tunnel, its always so stupidly warm inside coaches, and its fun just standing in a half empty carridge :/
    [16:47:04] 	 03(mod) Tablet view left column looks weird when it's not full of stuff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33838  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
    [16:51:24] 	 03(mod) Browser error message received when accessing namespace pages that don't yet exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33275  +comment (10moejoe0000)
    [16:53:18] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs/frontend/language/FlaggedRevs.i18n.magic.php: Fix double message key use from r109571
    [16:59:35] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/phase3/resources/ (9 files in 3 dirs): Revert r108987 to copy properly
    [17:00:27] 	 03gregchiasson *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/api/ApiViewFeedbackArticleFeedbackv5.php: AFT5 feedback page - adding HTML classes for the designers, and making the username/IP address links work.
    [17:02:56] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/phase3/resources/ (9 files in 3 dirs):
    [17:02:56] 	 Redoing r108960 with history
    [17:02:56] 	 If it was a 3rd party library, there probably wouldn't have been any use doing this
    [17:08:41] 	 03(mod) Translation of "Wikipedia" namespace in Assamese for Assamese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33507  +comment (10santhosh.thottingal)
    [17:24:56] 	 hi
    [17:25:40] 	 Someone know which extensions is used to modify the Text zone in this page : http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Visual_arts&action=edit
    [17:26:08] 	 I want the same Toolbar (Bold, Italic, Image, Advanced,...)
    [17:26:27] 	 !e WikiEditor | progz
    [17:26:27] 	 !e WikiEditor
    [17:26:27] 	 progz: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiEditor
    [17:26:27] 	 !e WikiEditor
    [17:26:28] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiEditor
    [17:26:29] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiEditor
    [17:26:30] 	 lol
    [17:26:35] 	 :D
    [17:26:45] 	 lol
    [17:26:48] 	 Thanks all :)
    [17:26:49] 	 Consensus via IRC
    [17:28:04] 	 http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Edit_toolbar#New_Toolbar
    [17:33:31] 	 New code comment: Reedy; Are we going to just accept this as a small casualty? Maybe we just remember to note it in the deplo; 
    [17:35:32] 	 New code comment: Reedy; Surely this is too early to be giving deprecated notices anyway? ie a version or 2 more needed first; 
    [17:36:41] 	 03(mod) Increase account creation limits on en.wikipedia and bn.wikipedia for an outreach event (Jan 25) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33900  +comment (10Thehelpfulone)
    [17:37:16] 	 New code comment: Johnduhart; After an angry post to foundation-l; 
    [17:37:32] 	 yay, lints work
    [17:37:57] 	 reedy: Does the lcase 'newbies' affect Wiktionary project differently?
    [17:38:15] 	 (cr100315)
    [17:38:27] 	 that uses lowercase newbies
    [17:38:31] 	 so shouldn't be any difference...
    [17:38:33] 	 https://gist.github.com/1538ab834316d3a6b08e
    [17:39:20] 	 But they do  not normalize usernames to Namecase.
    [17:39:44] 	 where do bugs for the email notification system go please?
    [17:40:56] 	 bugzilla?
    [17:41:04] 	 i'm confused
    [17:41:12] 	 it doesn't set it to be Newbies
    [17:41:18] 	 so why would it be an issue?
    [17:41:55] 	 oh found the correct section
    [17:42:36] 	 Reedy: "we normalize all usernames to uppercase first (I believe) so we could make 'Newbies' be the username, and 'newbies' be the new folks contribs only one directly from 'subpage' and not from form submit."
    [17:42:52] 	 bleh
    [17:45:36] 	 Any way to see a sort of hierarchy of categories?
    [17:46:32] 	 03(mod) Translation of "Wikipedia" namespace in Assamese for Assamese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33507  +comment (10sam)
    [17:46:49] 	 !e CategoryTree | Krenair 
    [17:46:49] 	 Krenair: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CategoryTree
    [17:46:51] 	 like that?
    [17:47:41] 	 Reedy, sort of. I'd like to see all the categories though, without having to select a top level one
    [17:53:12] 	 03gregchiasson *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
    [17:53:13] 	 AFT5 feedback page - bug fixes for fitler dropdown and a couple of bad
    [17:53:13] 	 translation messages, formatting the headers of all feedback buckets to match
    [17:53:13] 	 bucket 1 with the working links css classes etc, permissions fix to assume all
    [17:53:13] 	 oversighters are rollbackers, and fix one of the filtercount rollups not being
    [17:53:13] 	 incremented.
    [17:56:00] 	 03(NEW) Errors in watchlist email notification system - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33908 normal; MediaWiki: Email; (Thehelpfulonewiki)
    [17:56:18] 	 30 fixmes
    [18:01:19] 	 Reedy: yay linting http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/D3
    [18:01:54] 	 nice
    [18:02:01] 	 New code comment: ^demon; Could use isset() here since the values shouldn't be null either.; 
    [18:02:23] 	 03nikerabbit *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/extensions/ (5 files in 3 dirs): MFT r109112 r100441
    [18:06:38] 	 johnduhart: is that open source?
    [18:06:52] 	 Yes, and written in PHP
    [18:07:06] 	 johnduhart: can it fix issues automatically?
    [18:07:24] 	 can it program automatically?
    [18:07:34] 	 of course
    [18:07:40] 	 Nikerabbit: Yeah, it can fix some stuff
    [18:08:04] 	 johnduhart: how long it takes to run through mw source code and how many issues is there?
    [18:08:34] 	 or is it only for commits?
    [18:09:57] 	 Nikerabbit: It only lints changed lines
    [18:10:06] 	 It can also run unit tests if you set it up
    [18:10:49] 	 johnduhart: so we could make that prerequisite for commits? 
    [18:11:24] 	 Nikerabbit: it lints and runs unit testing before submitting to habricator by default, I just choose here to bypass it for the sake of presentation
    [18:11:26] 	 curious, if I found a few old rows that have a revision and text table entry, but no page table entry, is that considered an orphan?
    [18:11:33] 	 03hartman *  10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES-1.19 resources/mediawiki/mediawiki.Uri.js):
    [18:11:33] 	 Correct mw.Uri.decode to properly decode encoded + signs. Fixes bug 33902
    [18:11:33] 	 Patch by Fomafix
    [18:12:01] 	 03(FIXED) mw.Uri.decode( "%2B" ) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33902  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
    [18:12:46] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; No tests??; 
    [18:14:11] 	 ^demon: http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/D3
    [18:23:05] 	 03seanheavey *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/modules/jquery.articleFeedbackv5/ (3 files in 2 dirs): further css development for 1:30 push to prototype
    [18:25:47] 	 New code comment: Johnduhart; Still no @embeds; 
    [18:27:16] 	 New code comment: Johnduhart; What does this do that unittests in core don't?; 
    [18:31:15] 	 03(mod) Translation of "Wikipedia" namespace in Assamese for Assamese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33507  (10wikichaipau)
    [18:36:52] 	 RoanKattouw: I'm thinking of holding the next one in the WMUK office or around there... I was talking to WMUK's office and development very breifly the other night :)
    [18:37:18] 	 Yeah, 2 hours to order a couple of pizzas when the shop was only around the corner :P
    [18:44:49] 	 03(mod) Check environment and display new results every time when ?page=Welcome is accessed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31533  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [18:45:31] 	 New code comment: Reedy; The followup commits look more selenium esk; 
    [18:46:54] 	 03tparscal *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/es/es.TransactionProcessor.js: Skip traversal of leaf nodes if there aren't any children
    [18:47:10] 	 03yaron *  10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Added 'depth' parameter for 'category' and 'categories' input types
    [18:54:26] 	 03foxtrott *  10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/ (SF_Utils.php forminputs/SF_FormInput.php): fix bug 33832 ([SF] undefined function get_called_class() SF_FormInput.php on line 286)
    [18:54:47] 	 03(FIXED) [SF] undefined function get_called_class() SF_FormInput.php on line 286 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33832  +comment (10f.trott)
    [19:02:44] 	 03diederik *  10/trunk/tools/editor_trends/analyses/plugins/ppi_editor_productivity.py: Fix merge conflict.
    [19:03:16] 	 New code comment: Drdee; Rev. 109842 fixes this.; 
    [19:06:14] 	 03tstarling *  10/trunk/phase3/tests/phpunit/phpunit.php:
    [19:06:15] 	 Make arguments to phpunit.php work. It's hard to believe this could have been
    [19:06:15] 	 broken since r79164, so maybe it was a change in the command line parser that
    [19:06:15] 	 PHPUnit uses that made it treat any options after the first non-option argument
    [19:06:15] 	 as being plain arguments rather than actual options.
    [19:06:46] 	 New code comment: Jpostlethwaite; I just updated the extension page: \ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:UnitTest \ I will be upd; 
    [19:06:49] 	 03gregchiasson *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/api/ApiViewFeedbackArticleFeedbackv5.php: AFT5 feedback page - HTML fixes, and resolve a TODO on the 'edits since' link.
    [19:07:02] 	 03(NEW) link to discussion page in mobile view - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33909 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (a.d.bergi)
    [19:08:32] 	 03(NEW) CSV export incorrect offset - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33910 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (edward.david.baker)
    [19:10:45] 	 03seanheavey *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/modules/jquery.articleFeedbackv5/ (3 files in 2 dirs): added positiv & negative icons for individual feedback
    [19:11:17] 	 New code comment: Johnduhart; And still no embeds.; 
    [19:11:35] * johnduhart  sighes
    [19:11:45] 	 03(mod) Translation of "Wikipedia" namespace in Assamese for Assamese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33507  +comment (10sam)
    [19:12:32] 	 New code comment: Johnduhart; Missing /* @embed */s; 
    [19:13:01] 	 New code comment: Johnduhart; Missing /* @embed */s; 
    [19:14:29] 	 03seanheavey *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/modules/jquery.articleFeedbackv5/jquery.articleFeedbackv5.special.css: fixed height issue with tools tabs
    [19:18:55] 	 03(FIXED) CSV export incorrect offset - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33910  +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw)
    [19:19:49] 	 14(WFM) {{#forminput:}} not always creating a form element - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33376  +comment (10Yaron Koren)
    [19:20:54] 	 03(mod) Excessive punctuation highlighting in wikidiff2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33331  +comment (10mah)
    [19:22:19] 	 03(mod) MW 1.18: Uploading 2 files in MultiUpload set to max 10 result in 2 upload plus 8 x "The file you uploaded seems to be empty [...] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30635  +comment (10g.m.hagedorn)
    [19:23:03] 	 03(FIXED) Allow collapsing of subcategories in "category" and "categories" field types - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32689  +comment (10Yaron Koren)
    [19:25:49] 	 03(FIXED) Form submission should not be interrupted by die() statements in case of error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30205  +comment (10Yaron Koren)
    [19:26:54] 	 What does MediaWiki have against using the equals sign in links inside template transclusions?
    [19:30:18] 	 |parameter=Something https/domain.tld/?value=something probably works fine. But the *first* equals cannot be in a url or you'll have  {{{https://domain.tld/?value}}. 
    [19:33:46] 	 I see http://toolserver.org/~robla/crstats/ had an uptick over the weekend, time to hit that again....
    [19:35:11] 	 03tstarling *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/GlobalFunctions.php:
    [19:35:12] 	 Fix for r109720: replace the last two regexes with plain string functions. The
    [19:35:12] 	 regular expression used for stripping the last path component from the output
    [19:35:12] 	 was inefficient, because PCRE does not optimise "$" anchors correctly. It scans
    [19:35:12] 	 the entire string forwards, instead of scanning backwards starting from the
    [19:35:12] 	 anchor. Passes tests.
    [19:37:26] 	 03(mod) ISBN, RFC and PMID "magic links" might support non-breaking spaces ( ) too - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28950   +need-review +patch; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
    [19:38:04] 	 gwicke: hexmode: so, since we will probably be working with the current parser for 6+ more months, it would be a good thing to review the patches to Parser & ParserFunctions that actually fix bugs.  There are 14 of them
    [19:38:13] 	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=patch%2C%20need-review%2C%20&query_format=advanced&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=80089&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=normal&bug_severity=minor&bug_severity=trivial&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=Parser&component=ParserFunctions&product=MediaWiki&product=MediaWiki%20extensions
    [19:40:04] 	 brion, gwicke ^^ Nikola Kovacs, Dan Collins, User:Docu, Edward Z. Yang, Daniel Werner, Brad Jorsch, Vitaliy Filippov, Platonides, Kkkdc @jawiki, Peter Potrowl, and George Dowding are the volunteers you would encourage by reviewing those patches
    [19:40:06] 	 heh
    [19:40:22] 	 sumanah: I'll do another pass on those, but cannot guarantee that I'll push the hard ones through
    [19:40:49] 	 gwicke: any friendly response is better than silence
    [19:41:01] 	 some of them are very risky and work at things that cannot really be fixed in the current parser
    [19:41:15] 	 gwicke: even if it's "this is difficult because of x/y/z, so, this is very risky and work at things that cannot really be fixed in the current parser"
    [19:41:35] 	 03(mod) Usernames and IPv6 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33853  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [19:41:39] 	 sumanah: yeah- will communicate a bit
    [19:41:58] 	 gwicke: great.  I have some meetings today & tomorrow but can definitely help
    [19:42:01] 	 New code comment: Drdee; Where can I find the release notes where I should add this information?; 
    [19:42:35] 	 gwicke: if there are some of these that could be worked through faster in a session with Brion while you're in the same place, maybe we could arrange that?
    [19:42:48] 	 sumanah: I'll postpone that to the end of the week though, because we have a meeting today as well, and I try to make the most of my time here
    [19:42:55] 	 sumanah: at some point today I need to get a schedule of weekly standups/CR for the WiktionaryMobile team.
    [19:43:19] 	 Amgine: ok. do you think it's better for the students to have that meeting 1ce a week or 2ce a week?
    [19:43:28] 	 2ce.
    [19:43:32] 	 Amgine: I think so too.
    [19:44:22] 	 If one can be a brief stand-up, and the second be a "we did CR on git, and let's talk about those comments", would be great.
    [19:44:52] 	 sumanah: those bugs just take a lot of time to dive into, so I don't think it is terribly efficient to sit there and do that with brion
    [19:45:08] 	 gwicke: ok.
    [19:45:15] 	 03(mod) Upload Wizard crashes Safari when using long description texts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33607  +comment (10neilk)
    [19:45:25] 	 03(mod) Block element written inline splits multiline paragraphs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/5718  -need-review +reviewed; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
    [19:45:25] 	 will rather consult with him
    [19:46:12] 	  cr100315
    [19:46:30] 	 !r 200315
    [19:46:30] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/200315
    [19:46:35] 	 Would that affect wiktionary (capitalisation) differently?
    [19:46:40] 	 03(mod) to support for microdata and rdfa, allow  tags so external links can have ref/rel attributes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33886  -need-review +reviewed; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
    [19:46:55] 	 Not really
    [19:47:11] 	 Usernames are already exempt from wiktionaries no first capital scheme
    [19:47:11] 	 User:amgine is possible there.
    [19:47:28] 	 Oh.  I thot otherwise.
    [19:47:39] 	 It changed a couple versions ago (1.16 i think)
    [19:48:08] 	 caused a big mess whenever that change originally went through if i recall
    [19:48:09] 	 03(mod) MediaWiki cannot recognize urls pointing to ipv6 hosts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21261  -need-review +reviewed; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
    [19:48:25] 	 03diederik *  10/trunk/phase3/ (docs/export-0.6.xsd includes/Export.php): Add the new SHA1 revision field to the XML export, add SHA1 field to export-0.6.xsd and fix namespace element from string to integer.
    [19:48:27] 	  Certainly would have, just as it did the other direction.
    [19:52:00] 	 hi slaporte 
    [19:52:01] 	 03(mod) ParserFunctions MOD result sometimes wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6356  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
    [19:52:36] 	 drdee: someone pointed you to https://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES-1.19?view=markup , right?
    [19:53:39] 	 hi adamw_! 
    [19:53:52] 	 Hey, nice work on the hackathon
    [19:54:00] 	 Seems like people had a good time
    [19:54:54] 	 sumanah hey!
    [19:55:10] 	 03(mod) Avoid nested definition lists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6569  -need-review +reviewed; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
    [19:55:11] 	 the hackathon was excellent
    [19:55:18] 	 thank you, adamw_ and slaporte :D
    [19:55:36] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Line spacing in Featured Article paragraph too cramped - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33665  +comment (10Phil Chang)
    [19:56:54] 	 gwicke: I saw that you had already reviewed some of the patches so I changed their keywords to "reviewed" and now there's only 10 to go through
    [19:57:26] 	 sumanah: thanks! I'll try to make a quick pass over those later today
    [19:57:45] 	 03(mod) Upload Wizard crashes Safari when using long description texts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33607  +comment (10neilk)
    [19:58:10] 	 sumanah- will there be page with all the team's final products? I was looking through /Teams, and it is a lot of stuff there
    [19:58:12] 	 sumanah: btw- I invited Adam Souzis to our editor meeting today
    [19:58:31] 	 gwicke: oh! did you tell the reception people to expect him? Leslie?
    [19:58:31] 	 Quick Question: Does anyone know an easy way to play a bold link in "MediaWiki:Sidebar"?
    [19:58:33] 	 gwicke: cool
    [19:58:45] 	 place*
    [19:58:46] 	 03(mod) ParserFunctions MOD result sometimes wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6356  +comment (10Bawolff)
    [19:58:49] 	 slaporte: I am encouraging people to add to the Teams page, unless you have a better suggestion
    [19:58:49] 	 sumanah: yes, she knows he'll come
    [19:58:55] 	 !sidebar | Union_ 
    [19:58:55] 	 Union_: To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit page [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] on your wiki using its special syntax. For more details, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar
    [19:59:15] 	 gwicke: great! thanks
    [20:00:38] 	 Yep, I'm aware of the special syntax for the sidebar, but it seems to be having trouble recognizing bold cold. wiki code or html.
    [20:01:23] 	 sumanah I would make a "demo page" and transclude it somewhere prominent on the hackathon page
    [20:02:20] 	 03(mod) History list, when cleared, re-appears when app is re-opened - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33709  +comment (10philinje)
    [20:04:16] 	 meh. It was worth a shot. Thanks anyway..
    [20:04:21] 	 sumanah: We now have lintage! http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/D3
    [20:04:27] 	 Union_: just a sec
    [20:05:07] 	 03(mod) UploadWizard doesn't highlight errors in "more info" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32408  +comment (10neilk)
    [20:05:22] 	 Union_: you can ask the mediawiki-l list if no one steps up here
    [20:05:26] 	 !lists | Union_ 
    [20:05:26] 	 Union_: mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See http://lists.wikimedia.org/ for details.
    [20:05:29] 	 03(mod) Add Telugu Transliteration input method to Narayam - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33480  +comment (10veeven)
    [20:05:37] 	 slaporte: could I ask you to do that real quick/
    [20:05:40] 	 ?
    [20:05:55] 	 k thanks
    [20:06:13] 	 03(mod) ParserFunctions MOD result sometimes wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6356  +comment (10sam)
    [20:06:18] 	 slaporte: I gotta head away for a bit - if you could, that would be great
    [20:06:22] 	 03(mod) [SF] Special:RunQuery error takes down pages using it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33424  +comment (10fastgoldfish)
    [20:06:38] 	 sumanah: I will do this evening and let you know!
    [20:07:45] 	 03(mod) Excessive punctuation highlighting in wikidiff2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33331  +comment (10Tisza Gergő)
    [20:08:55] 	 03raymond *  10/trunk/ (36 files in 26 dirs): Localisation updates for core and extension messages from translatewiki.net
    [20:09:53] 	 03(FIXED) ParserFunctions MOD result sometimes wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/6356  +comment (10Platonides)
    [20:10:43] 	 03(mod) Portal pages need to be redesigned for mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30887  15enhancement->major (10Phil Chang)
    [20:10:45] 	 03(mod) Reformatting of Portals - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22187  (10Phil Chang)
    [20:11:38] 	 03gregchiasson *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ (4 files in 2 dirs): AFT5 feedbak page - add HTMl spans for designers, make active sort label bold, and change sort label to match the mockups.
    [20:17:50] 	 03(mod) Settings icons don't work (intermittent / on some devices) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33884  (10Phil Chang)
    [20:17:51] 	 03(mod) Android App 1.1 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805  (10Phil Chang)
    [20:18:17] 	 johnduhart: Oh wow, what kind of linter is that?
    [20:19:01] 	 The one in Phabricator, it uses xhpast
    [20:19:01] 	 New code comment: Platonides; trunk/phase3/RELEASE-NOTES-1.19; 
    [20:19:41] 	 RoanKattouw: https://github.com/facebook/arcanist/blob/master/src/lint/linter/xhpast/ArcanistXHPASTLinter.php
    [20:22:10] 	 03(mod) Portal pages need to be redesigned for mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30887  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [20:22:21] 	 03(mod) Top bar is not stretched when rotating screen - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33857  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [20:22:40] 	 03(mod) Userpages using {{#babel:}} appear in a list over transclusions of babel templates. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33860  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [20:23:00] 	 03(mod) Request for logo change in Tamil Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33862  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [20:23:13] 	 03(mod) PhoneGap-based iOS app map OSM/Leaflet label overlaps toolbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33869  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [20:23:22] 	 03(mod) PhoneGap-based iOS app: intermittent article scrolling freezes - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33870  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [20:23:50] 	 03(mod) Proofread extension JS loading fully broken on 1.19 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33873  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [20:24:25] 	 03(mod) [ExternalData] Did not find alias for special page 'GetData' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33874  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [20:25:19] 	 03(mod) Control - is toggling Narayam while it must zoom out - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33875  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [20:28:03] 	 hexmode: Would you mind creating a gcal event for the 1.19 triage?
    [20:28:43] 	 RoanKattouw: it is in the bugtriage gcal but I can put it on the engineering calendar
    [20:28:59] 	 Oh, is there a bug triage cal?
    [20:29:45] 	 RoanKattouw: yes, but just copied
    [20:30:12] 	 THanks
    [20:32:01] 	 New code comment: Siebrand; Why use raw XML instead of Xml::element() in export.php?; 
    [20:35:10] 	 03(FIXED) Creation of a new namespace for Malagasy Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33166  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
    [20:35:31] 	 New code comment: ^demon; No need for the empty() in LockManagerGroup.; 
    [20:39:17] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; Also please remove the cruft in get(). Just call get with 'nullLockManager' to begin with rather tha; 
    [20:39:21] 	 03(mod) Selection of included templates while Import - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33876  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
    [20:39:25] 	 03(FIXED) Re-point $wgLogo to $stdlogo on zhwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33841  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
    [20:40:29] 	 03(mod) Request for logo change in Tamil Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33862  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
    [20:41:17] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; Why would you omit the 'content' key? \ Maybe it would be better to add requiredParams() (similar to ; 
    [20:43:16] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; Why not use '$config = $config + $defaultConfig;'?; 
    [20:43:45] 	 RoanKattouw: howdy o/ got a sec?
    [20:44:10] 	 troubled: I think he might be talking to Daniel_WMDE 
    [20:44:16] 	 in person, afk
    [20:45:21] 	 03(FIXED) Request for Narayam in outreach.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33899  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
    [20:45:31] 	 troubled: Back at my desk now, go ahead
    [20:45:39] 	 cool, thanks
    [20:48:31] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; Might be nice to have something like array_diff_key( array( 'backend', 'name' ), $info ) to check fo; 
    [20:48:38] 	 RoanKattouw: I was mucking around today with a custom db table to store my meta data (rather than mess with locked alter table operations etc) and had some sql questions. My table stores language/version/crc of version which is parsed from page_title, so I did up some sql to fill my metadata join table, but I was wondering if there are any cases were page_title would change. Also, with testing this, i found 10 old (2005 ish) rows that didn't ha
    [20:49:14] 	 Cut off after "that didn't ha"
    [20:49:25] 	 ah, sorry, sec
    [20:49:32] 	 page_title can change if the page is moved (renamed). In that case page_title will change but page_id will not
    [20:49:42] 	 ...rows that didn't have any page table for the revision and text id's, and was wondering if they are "orphans"
    [20:49:56] 	 Ah, what was orphaned exactly?
    [20:50:02] 	 Did you have revisions that had no valid page ID?
    [20:50:14] 	 well, i looked at them and all 10 were #redirects
    [20:50:24] 	 they have rev id's and text id's, just no matched page id
    [20:51:01] 	 Huh that's weird
    [20:51:11] 	 What do you mean by "no matched page id" exactly?
    [20:51:30] 	 ya. it was from 2005, 2006 and 1 from 2007, so im guessing it was some old cruft left over some from old install of the software
    [20:51:59] 	 I mean that the referenced page id in the revisions table doesn't exist anymore, but only for these 10
    [20:51:59] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (6 files in 3 dirs): added extra fields and table
    [20:52:40] 	 basically, I did my sql to populate my metadata table, and then double checked the results to see why I was 10 rows short of count(*) in the revisions table and found these 10
    [20:53:33] 	 03(ASSIGNED) developer email should state more clearly that it is public - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33826  +comment (10Phil Chang)
    [20:54:16] 	 troubled, maybe it was https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26223 ?
    [20:56:45] 	 03(mod) ISBN, RFC and PMID "magic links" might support non-breaking spaces ( ) too - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28950  (10vlakoff)
    [20:57:41] 	 Platonides: definetly sounds similar. I was just going to ignore them, but was curious if it was safe to purge such results from the db since they had no page id. thanks for the link
    [20:59:32] 	 03(mod) remove local stewards user group - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32593  +comment (10sam)
    [21:00:03] 	 03(mod) Magic links are inconsistent with common parser rules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29025  (10vlakoff)
    [21:01:59] 	 now, to look into this page_title changing. thanks for the heads up. now to test :)
    [21:16:10] 	 03(mod) ISBN, RFC and PMID "magic links" might support non-breaking spaces ( ) too - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28950  +comment (10Platonides)
    [21:16:44] 	 Hello all, I've been working with templates and am having a problem with the left side navigation and search panel displaying below the content. Is that a result of bad html or my part or a known bug
    [21:17:08] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (8 files in 4 dirs): fixed some issues caused by recent renaming
    [21:17:19] 	 Ulfr: bad html
    [21:17:24] 	 bawolff: Thanks!
    [21:17:27] 	 Ulfr: on a wiki without tidy installed
    [21:17:33] 	 !tidy
    [21:17:34] 	 HTML Tidy is an external application that cleans up HTML for XHTML compliance (such as bad user input like 
    ). Prior to the new preprocessor in 1.12 it was also needed for distributed, transcluded, or conditional HTML, or mixed HTML and wikitables, but newer versions allow it without Tidy. See [21:17:37] indeed the move/rename does alter the page_title :( I figured it just made a new revision and kept the title the same. welp, back to the drawing board :) thanks [21:19:07] bawolff: Tidy's enabled. It's probably css then [21:19:29] Ulfr: hmm, it'd be difficult for bad css to cause that [21:19:44] Are you sure tidy is enabled correctly? [21:19:54] $wgUseTidy is set to True [21:20:37] Ulfr, you have an unclosed somewhere [21:20:42] or a missing [21:20:55] and tidy doesn't seem to be working for you [21:21:09] 03(mod) De-spriteify PhoneGap Android app's icons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32070 +comment (10Phil Chang) [21:21:10] 03(mod) Android App 1.1 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805 (10Phil Chang) [21:21:25] Platonides: You got it in one! Thank you! [21:21:26] Sometimes that's not enough (for example if tidy is not installed on server). Check the source code of a page for an html comment saying "Tidy found serious errors" or something like that [21:21:57] 03(ASSIGNED) Support for switching language variants - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32906 (10Phil Chang) [21:22:07] 03(FIXED) Flood flag on sr.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33864 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:22:12] 03(mod) Empty properties not ignored in subobjects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33901 +need-review +patch; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [21:22:21] bawolff: Oh, okay. I'll try installing the extension [21:22:31] "Tidy found serious XHTML errors" is the error we (used) to give when tidy wasn't installed [21:22:37] which is rather misleading [21:22:53] 03(ASSIGNED) De-spriteify PhoneGap Android app's icons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32070 (10Phil Chang) [21:23:31] New code comment: Moejoe000; The whole wfRemoveDotSegments seems unreasonably complicated. \ The following function (own work, pu; [21:25:42] ol [21:28:14] AaronSchulz: say hi :) [21:28:51] 03(ASSIGNED) Older android versions should be supported if possible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31655 +comment (10Phil Chang) [21:28:51] 03(mod) Android App 1.1 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805 (10Phil Chang) [21:29:46] New code comment: Aaron Schulz; Au contraire, it clearly should be implemented as a MediaWiki extension wrapped around a custom C ze; [21:33:41] 03(ASSIGNED) section links on file pages scroll too far down - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31524 +comment (10Phil Chang) [21:33:53] grrrr sharekit ... [21:34:31] New code comment: Platonides; That's why MW Parser uses a reversed string in some operations.; [21:35:23] 03(mod) Empty properties not ignored in subobjects - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33901 +comment (10jeroen_dedauw) [21:36:14] well that explains alot. I was only updating my meta data table between each test and thus the previously cached data had the right info. Forgot to consider the situation where I blow the table away to start fresh that would get the bad results by calculating on page_title while it's changed [21:36:28] 03(NEW) Unused ss_admins value may fail SiteStats sanity check - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33911 normal; MediaWiki: Database; (software) [21:36:32] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (EducationProgram.i18n.php specials/SpecialCourse.php): added status and student count fields to course pages [21:36:54] seems that it is at least possible to calculate what i need though since the wiki can track it. just hope the sql to do so isn't 400 lines long :) [21:38:12] 03(ASSIGNED) Adroid app doesnt always show all the search results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31890 +comment (10Phil Chang) [21:38:12] 03(mod) Android App 1.1 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805 (10Phil Chang) [21:39:54] 03(mod) Unused ss_admins value may fail SiteStats sanity check - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33911 +comment (10software) [21:39:56] 03(mod) Android app shows no link to open in regular browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31475 +comment (10Phil Chang) [21:43:22] 03(ASSIGNED) the nearby function doesn't work in some locales - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33704 +comment (10Phil Chang) [21:43:24] 03(mod) Android App 1.1 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805 (10Phil Chang) [21:44:40] 03(ASSIGNED) Stop attempting to load front page (ie remove spinner) when main page stops loading, even if it's a different site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31762 (10Phil Chang) [21:44:54] 03(mod) Flood flag on sr.wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33864 +comment (10mailmilan) [21:48:35] * AaronSchulz sees a magic quotes bug in the timeline ext [21:49:16] 03(mod) Wikipedia Android app shows null menus on Droid Pro - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33342 +comment (10Phil Chang) [21:49:18] hashar: looks like Timeline.php will have the first use of the backend 'create' op :) [21:50:01] 03reedy * 10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/modules/jquery.articleFeedbackv5/images/ (bg_emoticon_negative.png bg_emoticon_positive.png): Fix image mime-type from r109646 [21:50:44] 03(FIXED) Wikipedia Android app should have a nightly build key that support maps but is not our market key - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33133 +comment (10Phil Chang) [21:53:54] 03(mod) (optionally) hide the search bar, as it is done in browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33881 +comment (10Phil Chang) [21:55:15] 03(FIXED) section links on file pages scroll too far down - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31524 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [21:56:05] 03hashar * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/backend/ (FileBackend.php lockmanager/LockManagerGroup.php): [21:56:05] reverts r109814 r109815 [21:56:05] * Ternary operator avoided a call to wfWikiID() [21:56:05] * We really want to explicitly choose the manager [21:56:05] use LockManagerGroup->get( 'nullLockManager' ) [21:56:06] * defaultConfig no more needed if it handles just one parameter that [21:56:07] we want to set explicitly [21:58:38] 03(NEW) Fix up licensing and attribution of the Application and it's contributors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33912 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: android; (hartman) [21:58:41] 03dale * 10/trunk/extensions/ (17 files in 9 dirs): (log message trimmed) [21:58:41] * switched loading spinner over to spinner.js ( all js much nicer solution ) [21:58:41] * use of playerReadyFlag ( instead of "playerReady" to work around jQuery trigger restriction on isFunction for DOM methods ) [21:58:41] * removed use of intermediary .preference local var, instead always read and write to the cookie directly [21:58:41] * added css rounded boarders for playhead and playhead position indicator [21:58:42] * added min resize for resizing fullscren players to avoid interface overflow [21:58:42] * fixed loaderScript restriction on associated modules, moved mw.MediaWikiPlayer.loader into its own "module" [21:59:00] 03(NEW) Clicking on citation links doesn't take you to the reference unless the reference section has been previously expanded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33913 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: android; (sam) [22:04:38] 03(ASSIGNED) Open Wikipedia url in the app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32667 (10Phil Chang) [22:05:29] 03dale * 10/trunk/extensions/MwEmbedSupport/MwEmbedModules/MwEmbedSupport/jquery.loadingSpinner/spinner.js: follow up to r109856 added missing spinner.js [22:06:09] 03(ASSIGNED) Settings icons don't work (intermittent / on some devices) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33884 (10Phil Chang) [22:11:27] Nikerabbit (or anyone else), do you know if there is sanitization applied to message strings? Are we protected from a