[00:01:34] 03(mod) "cols" preference is redundant and should be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24430 (10jidanni) [00:24:09] 03mglaser * 10/trunk/extensions/WindowsAzureStorage/includes/filerepo/backend/WindowsAzureFileBackend.php: [00:24:09] * implemented overwrite param [00:24:09] * implemented missing methods (isPathUsableInternal, doSecureInternal) [00:24:09] * additional checks for invalid paths [00:24:09] * fixed bug in getFileList that lead to thumbnails not being regenerated [00:24:10] * all FileBackendTests pass [00:25:00] 03(mod) MWInit::classExists sometimes doesn't catch the ReflectionException properly. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33949 +comment (10sam) [00:26:42] 03(mod) Network connectivity issues on HTC Desire, possibly others - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33939 +comment (10sam) [00:27:58] 14(INVALID) Network connectivity issues on HTC Desire, possibly others - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33939 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [00:32:09] 03preilly * 10/trunk/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess/ZeroRatedMobileAccess.body.php: create generic method for parsing WikiText to array of options [00:36:41] 03(ASSIGNED) language list in setting not sorted by language name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33493 (10Phil Chang) [00:42:02] 03(mod) Use ShareKit to implement service sharing of links in iOS PhoneGap app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33675 (10Brion Vibber) [00:42:21] 03(NEW) move (old) toolbar init script to Ressource Loader - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33952 major; MediaWiki: Javascript; (a.d.bergi) [00:44:20] 03(ASSIGNED) change grayed-out "Save page" button to say "Saved page", or "Update saved page" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33807 +comment (10Phil Chang) [00:44:21] 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.2 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33855 (10Phil Chang) [00:46:10] 03(ASSIGNED) the developer webpage URL is not very useful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33827 (10Phil Chang) [00:48:32] 03(ASSIGNED) About header cuts off wiki logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33830 +comment (10Phil Chang) [00:48:33] 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.1 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805 (10Phil Chang) [00:48:34] New code comment: Aaron Schulz; I see $this->storageClient->blobExists() checks were they are only needed if there is no 'overwrite'; [00:54:20] 03preilly * 10/trunk/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess/ZeroRatedMobileAccess.body.php: add profile calls [00:55:30] 03(mod) Notes and general tracker - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33953 (10Phil Chang) [00:55:30] 03(ASSIGNED) Build errors on fresh setup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33842 (10Phil Chang) [00:55:50] 03(mod) change grayed-out "Save page" button to say "Saved page", or "Update saved page" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33807 +comment (10yuvipanda) [00:56:30] Hey RoanKattouw, would you mind checking that problem I was having please? [00:56:56] 03(ASSIGNED) build.xml has default target "help" but target "help" does not exist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33843 (10Phil Chang) [00:56:57] 03(mod) Notes and general tracker - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33953 (10Phil Chang) [00:57:16] Krenair: The API doesn't recognize your login problem? [00:57:23] login problem? [00:57:32] I figured out the login thing ages ago [00:57:35] Ahm, I mean the API claims you can't block people problem [00:57:41] Okay, so I'm logged in as an admin and I went to api.php?action=query&prop=info&format=json&intoken=block&titles=Main_Page [00:57:42] Part of the output is "warnings":{"info":{"*":"Action 'block' is not allowed for the current user"}} [00:57:42] I can definitely block through the normal interface [00:57:42] Which is probably a login issue [00:57:45] Yeah that [00:57:47] here's this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Article_Creation_Landing_System [00:57:48] That's probably a login issue [00:58:01] Could you pastebin the output of action=query&meta=userinfo&uiprop=groups|rights for me? [00:58:26] 03(FIXED) There are complaints about the main page not getting updated until the cache is cleared - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33877 +comment (10Phil Chang) [00:58:52] RoanKattouw, http://pastebin.com/uWQFrhfU [00:59:28] 03(ASSIGNED) Redo search only after moving the map in Nearby - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33360 (10Phil Chang) [00:59:28] 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.1 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805 (10Phil Chang) [00:59:29] 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.2 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33855 (10Phil Chang) [01:00:32] OK yeah it says you have the block right [01:00:52] 03(ASSIGNED) Android app should support voice input for search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31699 (10Phil Chang) [01:00:52] 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.2 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33855 (10Phil Chang) [01:01:08] As I said, I can block through the normal interface, which is why I'm surprised it doesn't seem to want to let me block through the API [01:01:18] Does the intoken=block request still fail? Did you use the same domain for that request? Did you pass in a &callback=something parameter? Does it work with other formats than JSON (e.g. XML)? [01:02:04] The intoken=block request is the one failing, yes. [01:02:16] Does it still fail after the meta=userinfo request? [01:02:23] 03mglaser * 10/trunk/extensions/WindowsAzureStorage/includes/filerepo/backend/WindowsAzureFileBackend.php: [01:02:23] * follow up r110039 [01:02:23] * killed doFileExists since it is not being called (thx to Aaron) [01:02:23] * only use blobExists where necessary [01:02:23] * all FileBackendTests pass [01:02:37] RoanKattouw, yes [01:02:56] I didn't use a callback parameter [01:03:08] 03(mod) Building Android apps for our sister projects (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31808 +comment (10Phil Chang) [01:03:09] Changing json to xml doesn't seem to fix it [01:03:10] 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 2.0 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33856 (10Phil Chang) [01:03:22] Oh damn [01:03:28] Uh, RoanKattouw, I'm sorry [01:03:34] New code comment: Mglaser; Thanks, Aaron. Fixed both issues in r110042; [01:03:42] Subdomain was different >_< [01:03:52] I figured it was gonna be something like that [01:03:59] My code isn't usually *that* broken :D [01:05:58] 03(mod) Use ShareKit to implement service sharing of links in iOS PhoneGap app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33675 +comment (10brion) [01:06:57] 03(NEW) Category will not go to "next 200" under certain circumstances. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33954 major; MediaWiki: Categories; (alfonse215) [01:10:23] 03(FIXED) Android app should handle large images better when sections expand beyond device width - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31892 +comment (10Phil Chang) [01:11:30] 03(ASSIGNED) Android app should have configuration setting for max amount of days to cache an article - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32346 (10Phil Chang) [01:11:30] 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.2 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33855 (10Phil Chang) [01:13:36] 03(ASSIGNED) Co-branding our app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32763 (10Phil Chang) [01:13:36] 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.2 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33855 (10Phil Chang) [01:15:54] 03(ASSIGNED) Users should be given a visual indicator when the list of Wikipedias is being downloaded which takes some time. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32903 (10Phil Chang) [01:15:54] 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.2 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33855 (10Phil Chang) [01:16:41] 03(ASSIGNED) Android app language list should be filterable/searchable to make it more manageable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32908 (10Phil Chang) [01:16:42] 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.2 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33855 (10Phil Chang) [01:17:45] 03(ASSIGNED) The language of Wikipedia in use should be displayed in the settings dialog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32904 (10Phil Chang) [01:17:45] 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.2 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33855 (10Phil Chang) [01:20:53] 14(DUP) Title conversion is not done in searching - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32921 +comment (10Phil Chang) [01:20:53] 03(mod) Support for switching language variants - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32906 +comment (10philinje) [01:21:59] 03(mod) Support for switching language variants - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32906 +comment (10philinje) [01:23:17] 03(ASSIGNED) Android app: consider merging bookmarks, history, search screens - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33172 (10Phil Chang) [01:23:18] 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.2 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33855 (10Phil Chang) [01:23:19] New code comment: Catrope; OK other than the message docs thing.; [01:24:12] What the christ [01:24:18] Something broke and it's not being nice :( [01:24:30] Getting this error "Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data." [01:24:36] Session variable is set correctly in php [01:24:40] What else could it be? [01:24:55] Transient error? Try resubmitting your edit? [01:25:34] 03(mod) rsvg on scaler does not support styling the root element - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31122 +comment (10mah) [01:26:04] RoanKattouw: I have with no change [01:26:17] It's happening on all my wikis too (using wiki family) :( [01:27:06] 03(mod) Need icon for clear history/saved pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33950 +comment (10hwalls) [01:27:34] New code comment: Tim Starling; The consistency check is concerning because it requires the file timestamps for a given file to matc; [01:28:31] I'm using the RemotUser authentication extension with apache [01:28:33] 03(mod) The search box should lose focus when a Go action is performed. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33656 +comment (10Andrea Stagi) [01:28:40] Everything was working fine before [01:28:50] I did try using the ldap authentication plugin last night but had issues [01:29:00] So I switched back to the Auth_RemoteUser extension [01:29:11] 03(mod) Remove 'urlcache' PhoneGap plugin from Android app, do caching ourselves - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33674 (10Yuvi Panda) [01:29:41] 03(mod) rsvg on scaler does not support styling the root element - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31122 +comment (10mah) [01:34:04] New code comment: Catrope; 
 \ + .Html::element( 'span', array( \ + 'class' => $class, \ + ), wfMessage( $msg, '')->escaped(); 
[01:34:23] 	 03(mod) Use ShareKit to implement service sharing of links in iOS PhoneGap app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33675  +comment (10brion)
[01:37:21] 	 03inez *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/contentEditable/ (main.js views/es.ContentView.js views/es.SurfaceView.js): Basic support for "enter" key
[01:37:49] 	 New code comment: Catrope; 
 \ + ), date( 'r', $record[0]->af_created ) ) \ 
 \ You can also use our core functions here: <; 
[01:39:19] 	 New code comment: Catrope; 
 \ + 'spam', \ 
 \ Freudian slip? :D Appears to have been fixed in a later revision (it's no; 
[01:39:50] 	 Ao anyone have an idea
[01:39:56] 	 This is really bizarre
[01:43:35] 	 New code comment: Catrope; 
 \ + . $this->msg( 'articlefeedbackv5-percent-found', $found )->escaped() \ 
 \ This escapes ; 
[01:43:49] 	 New code comment: Catrope; 
+ . wfMessage( 'articlefeedbackv5-percent-found' )
 \ You have to call ->escaped() here. ; 
[01:46:19] 	 03(FIXED) the developer webpage URL is not very useful - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33827  +comment (10Tomasz Finc)
[01:47:42] 	 03inez *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/contentEditable/views/es.SurfaceView.js: Basic support for backspace button
[01:49:04] 	 New code comment: Catrope; 
 \ + background-image:url(data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAAEAAAAjCAIAAADaE/fjAAAA; 
[01:50:04] 	 New code comment: Catrope; 
 \ + if ( $wgArticleFeedbackv5AbuseFiltering && 'text' == $type \ 
 \ You also need to do 
[01:50:37] 	 04(REOPENED) Wikipedia Android app can't search when in WIFI only mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33844  normal->04CRIT; +comment (10Tomasz Finc)
[01:50:43] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android app can't search when in WIFI only mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33844  +comment (10tfinc)
[01:55:34] 	 New code comment: Tim Starling; 
 \ + return preg_replace( \ + '!^mwstore://([^/]+)!', \ + "mwstore://{$this->name}", \ + $paths ; 
[01:56:20] 	 New code comment: Catrope; 
+INSERT INTO aft_article_filter_count(afc_page_id, afc_filter_name, afc_filter_count) SELECT af; 
[02:15:08] 	 03neilk *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/MessageBlobStore.php: sanitize outgoing messages
[02:19:02] 	 New code comment: NeilK; Trying to be extra careful with what we emit. While translations have never been a source of XSS bef; 
[02:19:47] 	 New code comment: NeilK; Right, that should be good tags like '<b>'. A perfect example of that function in action.; 
[02:21:02] 	 New code comment: NeilK; Closing tags ; 
[02:40:43] 	 where do I look for mediawiki.js?
[02:41:21] 	 looking for a 'canonical' copy to replace the bastardized version we were using in the mobile app
[02:42:05] 	 found it
[02:43:00] 	 gj
[03:20:55] 	 03(mod) rsvg on scaler does not support styling the root element - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31122  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[03:24:11] 	 03(mod) Unable to add/remove buttons from (classic) toolbar from a gadget after MW update - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31511  +comment (10mah)
[03:24:39] 	 03(mod) Hardware search button highlights search field forever - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33573  +comment (10Andrea Stagi)
[04:45:24] 	 Ryan_Lane: Wanna help me test phabricator?
[04:45:33] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator#Setup
[05:01:28] 	 guess no
[05:07:03] 	 New code comment: Johnduhart; [[Subversion/auto-props]]; 
[05:09:49] 	 03(NEW) Special characters not supported in search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33955 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: android; (philinje)
[05:10:19] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Special characters not supported in search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33955  (10Phil Chang)
[05:10:20] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.1 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805  (10Phil Chang)
[05:13:02] 	 03(NEW) Integrate with screenreader TalkBack - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33956 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: android; (philinje)
[05:13:33] 	 03(mod) Integrate with screenreader TalkBack - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33956  (10Phil Chang)
[05:13:33] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.2 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33855  (10Phil Chang)
[05:15:12] * johnduhart  waves to sumanah
[05:15:18] 	 hi johnduhart!
[05:15:28] 	 just came back to NYC from SF.  How are you?
[05:15:46] 	 I'm good, thanks. How was your flight?
[05:16:22] 	 johnduhart: Perfectly fine in that my seatmate was a technologist-turned-teacher and we had an interesting conversation about education stuff.
[05:16:42] 	 Interesting!
[05:16:54] 	 johnduhart: I actually came away from it thinking that I should look into MediaWiki/Moodle and MediaWiki/Sakai and MediaWiki/Blackboard and MediaWiki/Desire2Learn integration.
[05:17:09] 	 sumanah: I wrote up some docs for phabricator https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator
[05:17:37] 	 johnduhart: And something he said made me wonder about whether there are things we could do wrt Wikibooks and Wikiversity to improve their reuse/integrability (is that a word?) in terms of our web API.  Or something.
[05:17:54] 	 Hm.
[05:18:02] * sumanah  laughs aloud at "Congrats! You now have a full (albeit stale) MediaWiki install! Pat yourself on the back."
[05:18:12] 	 also "waddle"
[05:18:21] 	 heh
[05:18:21] 	 this is great
[05:19:03] 	 johnduhart: you are following "rule 1: be funny" http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000033.html
[05:19:09] 	 at least, you remind me of it
[05:19:31] 	 Heh, thanks.
[05:20:17] 	 I did want to have someone go through it and made sure it works before I released to it the masses on wikitech-l
[05:20:27] 	 But it looks like it's a bit late for for that
[05:20:34] 	 johnduhart: I am just catching up on email now so I was about to check whether you'd mentioned anything about it on the list
[05:20:50] 	 johnduhart: oh, why is that?
[05:20:56] 	 what am I about to read? :)
[05:21:13] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Show name of Main Page (instead of URL) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33283  +comment (10Phil Chang)
[05:21:14] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.2 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33855  (10Phil Chang)
[05:21:38] 	 sumanah: I just wanted to make sure the documentation made sense and worked for other people.
[05:21:48] 	 Pharbicator is an alternative to gerrit.
[05:22:03] 	 Right.
[05:22:39] 	 johnduhart: I am a bit too braindead right now to actually be a good guinea pig for the HOWTO there, but maybe you could find someone else?
[05:23:02] 	 johnduhart: maybe AaronSchulz could go through it, I bet he would be a good test subject :)
[05:23:20] 	 Thing is, it's not a fully automated gated trunk like gerrit is. I need to win people over that this is a better process overall, and would be friendly with new developers
[05:23:31] 	 Nod
[05:23:50] 	 sumanah: Understood, I wouldn't expect anyone who just walked off a plane at midnight to test something :p
[05:23:59] * johnduhart  pokes Ryan_Lane
[05:24:13] 	 johnduhart: *wry smile*
[05:24:40] 	 johnduhart: yeah, I'm reading http://www.aosabook.org/en/makingsoftware.html and hit a really opaquely written chapter just as my cognitive capacities hit a rough patch
[05:26:53] 	 so, for ops we *must* have gated trunk
[05:26:55] 	 it isn't optional
[05:27:01] 	 Ryan_Lane: of course
[05:27:14] 	 ops can keep their gerrit
[05:27:24] 	 isn't that sub-optimal?
[05:27:36] 	 that's two systems we have to manage
[05:27:45] 	 03(FIXED) Implement custom search suggestions in native home screen search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33356  summary; +comment (10Phil Chang)
[05:27:46] 	 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957  (10Phil Chang)
[05:27:55] 	 johnduhart: maybe you could ping me about this either on IRC tomorrow, or on email, if you would still like a bit of copyediting/check for semantic reasonableness :)
[05:28:03] 	 see, now I'm saying "semantic" and should go to bed
[05:28:04] 	 (and by manage I mean devs and ops)
[05:28:09] 	 sumanah: Sure :p
[05:28:11] 	 and really, I mostly means devs
[05:28:51] 	 Ryan_Lane: hrm.
[05:29:13] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Build android nightly under a different name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33804  +comment (10Phil Chang)
[05:29:13] 	 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957  (10Phil Chang)
[05:29:27] 	 you guys already mostly manage everything for svn. I don't think that'll change for git
[05:29:41] 	 Ryan_Lane: It's a PHP webapp, what's to manage
[05:29:46] 	 :D
[05:29:50] 	 ;)
[05:29:59] 	 I really should do something with all these piespy frames I have sitting around on my computer
[05:29:59] 	 And since it's PHP I think the developers will have a much better time with it
[05:30:11] 	 I agree with that
[05:30:14] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Integrate with screenreader TalkBack - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33956  (10Phil Chang)
[05:30:29] 	 but if ops uses gerrit, and you guys use phabricator, you guys will *still* need to use gerrit
[05:30:40] 	 Ryan_Lane: Have you seen this? https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator
[05:30:43] 	 Ryan_Lane: oh?
[05:30:44] 	 except it'll be a horrible experience
[05:30:55] 	 since there will be no dev help
[05:31:12] 	 When will we need to use gerrit?
[05:31:27] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Nightly builds should pull only from Master - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33948  normal->15enhancement (10Phil Chang)
[05:31:27] 	 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957  (10Phil Chang)
[05:31:35] 	 packages, anything puppet related, etc
[05:31:44] 	 and labs is based around puppet, so...
[05:32:08] 	 unless you guys want to wait on ops to puppetize everything, you'll need to use gerri
[05:32:11] 	 *gerrit
[05:32:20] 	 the idea is to eliminate us as the bottleneck
[05:32:47] 	 Ryan_Lane: Again that's a sysadmin focus though, I'm sure there are people who develop and never touch the sysadmin side.
[05:33:01] 	 If I want to help ops, I can learn gerrit
[05:33:39] 	 so, is this review after commit?
[05:33:40] 	 or before?
[05:34:08] 	 and does phabricator handle merges for you?
[05:34:12] 	 Ryan_Lane: Review after you commit to your local repo but before it's pushed
[05:34:42] 	 johnduhart: domas might be one to hit up about your phabricator documenation, since he probably already uses it
[05:34:44] 	 so, this is pull-request based?
[05:34:47] 	 Ryan_Lane: It doesn't. However, a need command just got added to arcanist for meging stuff in
[05:35:33] 	 p858snake|l: Yeah, he was the one who mentioned it initially
[05:35:46] 	 one of the nice things about gerrit is that a change sits in a branch, gets code reviewed, and is automatically merged
[05:35:55] 	 it makes it easier for the reviewer
[05:36:01] 	 which is the current bottleneck in the system
[05:36:33] 	 wouldn't the reviewer need to review, and merge with this?
[05:36:42] 	 how are the review requests done?
[05:36:47] 	 03(ASSIGNED) (optionally) hide the search bar, as it is done in browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33881  +comment (10Phil Chang)
[05:36:48] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.2 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33855  (10Phil Chang)
[05:37:04] 	 I'm not against this system, I really just need to try it
[05:37:12] 	 does this have LDAP auth?
[05:37:23] 	 or some form of SSO support?
[05:37:27] 	 Ryan_Lane: Not yet, that's a feature I'll add if people like it
[05:37:30] 	 Ryan_Lane: OAuth
[05:37:46] 	 mediawiki doesn't have oauth support.
[05:37:58] 	 Well yeah but LDAP can't be that hard to add in
[05:38:00] 	 right?
[05:38:03] 	 heh
[05:38:07] 	 :p
[05:38:13] 	 I've added LDAP to about 10 applications
[05:38:25] 	 I'm *really* tired of maintaining LDAP code. heh
[05:38:38] 	 <3 phabricator
[05:38:41] 	 Don't worry I'll handle it, though I might have a few questions
[05:38:44] 	 though real value comes from proprietary image macros
[05:38:48] 	 like 'shipit'
[05:38:49] 	 :)
[05:38:53] 	 domas: hehe
[05:38:59] 	 domas: how do review requests happen?
[05:39:14] 	 domas: http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/D1
[05:39:15] 	 and is the onus of merge on the reviewer?
[05:39:32] 	 the one who requests does the push
[05:39:43] 	 at least in our workflow
[05:39:49] 	 We could tweak that
[05:39:54] 	 and the push goes directly into trunk?
[05:39:54] 	 So reviewers push
[05:40:08] 	 well, it isn't necessarily better for reviewers to push
[05:40:17] 	 otherwise they have to deal with merge conflicts
[05:40:20] 	 Ryan_Lane: arc patch D1 && arc land
[05:40:25] 	 04(REOPENED) Android phonegap app settings dialog: checkbox, dropdown should trigger when tapping anywhere in the list item - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32244  +comment (10Liangent)
[05:40:37] 	 is arc multiplatform?
[05:40:41] 	 does it work with IDEs?
[05:41:00] 	 arc is PHP
[05:41:13] 	 arc is on the server side?
[05:41:19] 	 arc is clientside
[05:41:35] 	 there's API for this too
[05:41:39] 	 iirc
[05:41:41] 	 clients need to install php?
[05:41:49] 	 I wrote a script to install it on the client, https://github.com/johnduhart/mwphb/blob/master/arc-setup
[05:42:07] 	 Ryan_Lane: yes
[05:42:11] * Ryan_Lane  groans
[05:42:21] 	 ok, now I'm starting to lean heavily against it
[05:42:44] 	 Ryan_Lane: What's the concern with having things installed locally?
[05:43:00] 	 coming from a third-party's perspective, having to have php installed to work with our repo is a non-starter
[05:43:25] 	 yeah, because stuff inside our repo is definitely not php :)
[05:43:33] 	 some stuff is not
[05:43:40] 	 Ryan_Lane: It's possible to submit raw diffs http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/differential/diff/create/
[05:43:46] 	 it's just, meh.
[05:43:47] 	 also, not everyone can develop and push locally
[05:45:37] 	 installing PHP on windows is problematic
[05:45:53] 	 http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/D4
[05:45:56] 	 it often comes bundled with a webserver
[05:46:11] 	 :D
[05:46:28] 	 That's from a raw diff
[05:47:22] 	 well, any scripting language inside any hook on windows is already problematic
[05:47:22] 	 :)
[05:47:42] 	 Then the reviewer can export the patch or create a feature branch on their repo from the change
[05:49:22] 	 the diffs are generated on the client side?
[05:49:31] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Clicking on citation links doesn't take you to the reference unless the reference section has been previously expanded - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33913  (10Phil Chang)
[05:49:31] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.1 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805  (10Phil Chang)
[05:49:32] 	 Ryan_Lane: Yes
[05:49:35] 	 03(mod) Request for logo change in Tamil Wikiquote - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33862  +comment (10krishnaprasaths1)
[05:50:12] 	 domas: indeed
[05:50:32] 	 all of the gerrit related stuff works cross platform already
[05:51:17] 	 http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/D4
[05:51:19] 	 \o/
[05:51:30] 	 ryan_lane: including the git-setup? :)
[05:51:47] 	 domas: heheh
[05:51:55] 	 domas: good point.
[05:55:14] 	 03santhosh *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/api/ (4 files): Stylize, and whitespace-tab fixes
[06:04:47] 	 domas: Oh well, guess I'll just have to bug him more tomorrow
[06:06:00] 	 I guess I should get around to working out a non sucky way to put all these image files into a video file oneday
[06:08:46] 	 03(mod) Messages of log entries should support GENDER - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24156  +comment (10winexpertu)
[06:11:19] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Need icon for clear history/saved pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33950  normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Phil Chang)
[06:11:20] 	 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957  (10Phil Chang)
[06:24:28] 	 domas: is it ok to assume people have bash? (even on windows)
[06:25:34] 	 03(mod) Support for switching language variants - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32906  (10Phil Chang)
[06:25:34] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.1 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805  (10Phil Chang)
[06:25:35] 	 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957  (10Phil Chang)
[06:29:18] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.1 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805  (10Phil Chang)
[06:29:18] 	 03(mod) Android app nearby me should have a mechanism to show more or less results - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31891  (10Phil Chang)
[06:29:19] 	 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957  (10Phil Chang)
[06:30:13] 	 03(mod) Older android versions should be supported if possible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31655  (10Phil Chang)
[06:30:15] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.1 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805  (10Phil Chang)
[06:30:15] 	 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957  (10Phil Chang)
[06:37:20] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Mobile should integrate with the native google quick search box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33792  (10Phil Chang)
[06:37:21] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.1 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805  (10Phil Chang)
[06:37:21] 	 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957  (10Phil Chang)
[06:38:47] 	 03(mod) Make it possible to clear app history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33530  (10Phil Chang)
[06:38:48] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.1 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805  (10Phil Chang)
[06:38:49] 	 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957  (10Phil Chang)
[06:39:50] 	 03(mod) Android app should have a better experience with no search results, Did You Mean - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31760  (10Phil Chang)
[06:39:50] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.1 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805  (10Phil Chang)
[06:39:51] 	 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957  (10Phil Chang)
[06:42:14] 	 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957  (10Phil Chang)
[06:42:14] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.1 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805  (10Phil Chang)
[06:42:15] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android app should be allowed to run from an sd card - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33883  (10Phil Chang)
[06:43:34] 	 03(mod) Open Wikipedia url in the app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32667  (10Phil Chang)
[06:43:36] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.1 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805  (10Phil Chang)
[06:43:37] 	 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957  (10Phil Chang)
[06:47:15] 	 03(mod) Use spelling corrections from search api in Android mobile search - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32249  (10Phil Chang)
[06:47:15] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.1 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805  (10Phil Chang)
[06:47:16] 	 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957  (10Phil Chang)
[06:48:49] 	 03(mod) Android app should allow user to select another nearby article snippet without hitting the back button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31954  (10Phil Chang)
[06:48:50] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.1 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805  (10Phil Chang)
[06:48:50] 	 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957  (10Phil Chang)
[06:53:51] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android app should have a setting to turn off images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33866  (10Phil Chang)
[06:53:52] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.1 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805  (10Phil Chang)
[06:53:52] 	 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957  (10Phil Chang)
[06:55:51] 	 03inez *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/contentEditable/views/es.SurfaceView.js: Small refactoring to getOffset method in SurfaceView
[06:56:58] 	 03(mod) submit release on F-Droid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33484  (10Phil Chang)
[06:56:58] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.1 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805  (10Phil Chang)
[06:56:59] 	 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957  (10Phil Chang)
[06:57:31] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.1 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805  (10Phil Chang)
[06:57:31] 	 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957  (10Phil Chang)
[06:57:32] 	 03(mod) Submit release to Amazon Appstore for Android - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33519  (10Phil Chang)
[06:58:17] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.1 tracking - current bugs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805  summary (10Phil Chang)
[07:02:23] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Mobile should integrate with the native google quick search box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33792  (10Phil Chang)
[07:02:24] 	 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957  (10Phil Chang)
[07:03:00] 	 03(mod) Use spelling corrections from search api - same as Did you mean? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32249  summary (10Phil Chang)
[07:13:02] 	 03(NEW) Random button in app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33958 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: android; (philinje)
[07:14:07] 	 03inez *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/contentEditable/views/es.SurfaceView.js: Proof of concept for cursor repositioning - showCursorAt method
[07:19:34] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Random button in app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33958  (10Phil Chang)
[07:19:34] 	 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957  (10Phil Chang)
[07:24:02] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; 
 \ + . Html::element( 'span', \ + array( 'class' => 'result' ), \ + wfMessage( $message, $gender; 
[07:25:23] 	 03(mod) Messages of log entries should support GENDER - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24156  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
[07:31:39] 	 03(NEW) Special:CongressLookup doesn't work anymore - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33959 normal; MediaWiki extensions: General/Unknown; (liangent)
[07:49:35] 	 03(mod) Android app prompts for compatibility zoom on Honeycomb 3.2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33692  (10Phil Chang)
[07:49:36] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.1 tracking - current bugs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805  (10Phil Chang)
[07:49:36] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.2 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33855  (10Phil Chang)
[08:04:35] 	 03(mod) Add a feature to clear local cached pages history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32916  (10Phil Chang)
[08:04:36] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.1 tracking - current bugs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31805  (10Phil Chang)
[08:04:36] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.2 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33855  (10Phil Chang)
[08:13:19] 	 03(mod) change grayed-out "Save page" button to say "Saved page", or "Update saved page" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33807  (10Phil Chang)
[08:13:21] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 1.2 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33855  (10Phil Chang)
[08:13:22] 	 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957  (10Phil Chang)
[08:26:10] 	 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957  (10Phil Chang)
[08:26:10] 	 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007  (10Phil Chang)
[08:34:34] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; This breaks SemantifForms action=formedit, but reverting this and followups causes fatals!; 
[08:36:18] 	 03(mod) Photo handling 1, optimize to screen width - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31931  summary (10Phil Chang)
[08:37:47] 	 03(mod) Photo handling 1, optimize to screen width - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31931  +comment (10philinje)
[08:42:43] 	 03(mod) Photo handling 1, optimize to screen width - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31931  (10Phil Chang)
[08:42:44] 	 03(mod) Photo handling 2, optimize image file page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31933  summary; +comment (10Phil Chang)
[08:42:44] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 2.0 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33856  (10Phil Chang)
[08:43:25] 	 03(mod) Photo handling 1, optimize to screen width - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31931  (10Phil Chang)
[08:43:26] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android App 2.0 release (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33856  (10Phil Chang)
[08:46:20] 	 Good morning :) Is there any way that I can open few pages with the same content by one click? Are there any bots that can help me to do it? 
[08:59:07] 	 natbrown: Is that question about Mediawiki?
[08:59:24] 	 Yes
[08:59:35] 	 @natbrown Not sure if that would work, but the automatic-save part could be done through Autoedit (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Snippets/Autoedit), so you place the common text into a template which is set as preload in the URL
[08:59:59] 	 I am opening pages with the same content for translation into different languages.
[09:01:04] 	 natbrown: So you want a single link, so that clicking it causes browser to open several pages in different windows or tabs?
[09:01:17] 	 and you could as well have a Javascript (or a change directly in the MediaWiki code) which generates the urls and opens in different tabs
[09:03:11] 	 Tale: I am opening pages that you pretty boring http://wikitranslate.org/wiki/Russian_grammar_-_Nouns_used_only_in_the_singular/fr:_French http://wikitranslate.org/wiki/Russian_grammar_-_Nouns_used_only_in_the_singular/it:_Italian etc.
[09:04:47] 	 The majority of the content is in the target language, but some bits have to be translated into the native languages of the students
[09:05:05] 	 natbrown: I do not know how to do that with mediawiki, but you could do the setup for yourself. http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/open-multiple-websites-at-once-with-a-desktop-shortcut/
[09:08:33] 	 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957   +tracking (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[09:10:05] 	 03(mod) Notes and general tracker - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33953   +tracking (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[09:10:06] 	 03(mod) Tracking bug (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/2007  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[09:17:09] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (12 files in 3 dirs): some random work I did on the plane, mainly minor features or tweaks
[09:19:24] 	 petan: hi
[09:22:06] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/SemanticMediaWiki/includes/ (SMW_QueryProcessor.php parserhooks/SMW_SetRecurringEvent.php): fix default limit
[09:23:47] 	 tale: Thank you so much :)) At least I will be able to open those pages. Thank you!
[09:24:32] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/EducationProgram.hooks.php: follow up to r110049 - minor fix
[10:15:17] 	 04(REOPENED) [Regression] Sortable tables: "unsortable" should also work for rows outside the table heading - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31060  +comment (10Michael M.)
[10:19:47] 	 03(mod) Reports of Opera 9.10.521 crashes on dewiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31691  +comment (10listenleser)
[10:24:03] 	 Hello. I have some very small articles and I would like to paste the contents of these articles to a new article. Is there a way to do this without using templates?
[10:25:30] 	 03raymond *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ArticleFeedbackv5.i18n.php:
[10:25:30] 	 Reinstate comments dropped in r110028
[10:25:30] 	 Ping r109982: /* */ style comments are reserved (in i18n files only) for language name and translators, otherwise removed by the transatewiki.net export script. # and // style comments can be used.
[10:30:33] 	 03raymond *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ArticleFeedbackv5.i18n.php: Self revert r110052. Stupid Raymond :/
[10:31:26] 	 guillom, hi - got a free minute to publish my blog post?
[10:31:39] 	 MaxSem, sure. Is it all ready to go?
[10:31:57] 	 i.e., do you just need me to push the button?
[10:32:57] 	 yes
[10:33:36] 	 compared to the version copyedited by you I've just decreased the pic and inserted a missing word
[10:33:43] 	 yup
[10:34:01] 	 Project MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit build #838: FAILURE in 2 min 15 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit/838/
[10:34:04] 	 Project MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit build #6391: FAILURE in 2 min 17 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit/6391/
[10:34:18] 	 oh no
[10:35:41] 	 MaxSem, minor nitpick: can we change the title to something more descriptive? i.e. maybe "FeaturedFeeds brings syndication feeds of featured Wikimedia content" ?
[10:35:52] 	 omg
[10:36:05] 	 I'm not really proficient in advertising:P
[10:36:10] 	 lol
[10:36:20] 	 sure, feel fre to change whatever you feel appropriate
[10:36:30] 	 ok, I'll just change it to that, and post
[10:37:10] 	 done
[10:37:29] 	 Going to post it to social media channels later today
[10:37:57] 	 hashar: Wouldn't it make more sense to have one project for databaseless tests and then 2 downstream for database ones?
[10:38:17] 	 03(NEW) Import sources for etwiki, etwikisource and etwiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33960 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (pikse)
[10:38:25] 	 johnduhart yup that is what I am working on
[10:38:39] 	 ok.
[10:38:49] 	 johnduhart: the idea is to get one job per branch to fetch the content from svn/git
[10:39:15] 	 guillom, thanks. I'll post to wikitech-l now
[10:39:27] 	 np
[10:39:33] 	 tell me if you need anything else
[10:39:51] 	 johnduhart: then each of those fetching jobs will have a job for parser tests, one for databaseless and one for rest of tests
[10:40:01] 	 johnduhart: still working on the prototype :-)
[10:46:21] 	 Yippie, build fixed!
[10:46:21] 	 Project MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit build #839: FIXED in 2 min 40 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit/839/
[10:46:56] 	 Yippie, build fixed!
[10:46:56] 	 Project MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit build #6392: FIXED in 3 min 13 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit/6392/
[10:47:48] 	 what are msg functions in mediawiki?I mean there are lots of "wf.. Msg" functions defined in GlobalSettings.php file
[10:48:23] 	 what are they exactly and what for are messages used in Mediawiki ..?
[10:50:34] 	 what are msg functions in mediawiki?I mean there are lots of "wf.. Msg" functions defined in GlobalSettings.php file
[10:51:28] 	 potter: They're for translation
[10:52:05] 	 03(mod) Random button in app - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33958  +comment (10sam)
[10:52:17] 	 johnduhart: ?example
[10:53:02] 	 potter: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Localisation
[10:54:36] 	 I would love to see a page explaining wfMessage
[10:55:03] 	 the only I could find is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_messages_API
[10:55:19] 	 which just highlight the changes from wfMsg* to wfMessage
[10:55:51] 	 https://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/includes/Message.php?view=markup
[10:55:55] 	 PHPDoc
[10:56:36] 	 Does anyone have a few minutes to test phabricator?
[10:56:37] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator
[10:57:56] 	 03(mod) About header cuts off wiki logo - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33830  +comment (10sam)
[10:59:53] 	 03(NEW) Settings menu does nothing on 2.3.5 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33961 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: android; (sam)
[11:02:05] 	 here is the stub : https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WfMessage()
[11:02:10] 	 Hello. Can I ask one of MediaWiki.org sysops for dealing with a small problem? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Newarticletext/ru — here are two grammar mistakes. «внутрикорпортаивном» should be replaced with «внутрикорпоративном» and «неподхоодящее» should be replaced with «неподходящее». Am I in the right place? :)
[11:02:58] 	 johnduhart: we are moving to gerrit :D
[11:03:23] 	 hashar: Yeah and I intend to prevent that with a better system.
[11:03:26] 	 04(REOPENED) Android 2.x search box adds an autocomplete box which overlaps with the main text box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31522  summary; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[11:04:18] 	 03(mod) Build android nightly under a different name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33804  +comment (10sam)
[11:04:27] 	 johnduhart: which might be needed :D
[11:04:45] 	 :)
[11:04:49] 	 johnduhart: maybe you could setup a demo on a labs machine and use ^demon MediaWiki core.git ?
[11:05:00] 	 I already did http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/
[11:05:03] 	 I think someone did that with gitorious
[11:05:06] 	 shah you rocks
[11:05:16] 	 http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/D3
[11:05:38] 	 hashar: If you want to test it out: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator
[11:06:02] 	 03(mod) Android 2.x search box adds an autocomplete box which overlaps with the main text box - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31522  +comment (10sam)
[11:07:09] 	 johnduhart: that looks way better than gerrit
[11:07:22] 	 johnduhart: hey.. i didnot understand the link you gave me.. it has lots of info.. got confused :(
[11:09:47] 	 hashar: It looks better, but the big question is: Is the process better?
[11:10:14] 	 will give it a shot tonight I think
[11:10:32] 	 potter: Simply those functions are used to do internationalization (translation) of the MEdiaWiki interface
[11:10:33] 	 Are here any active MediaWiki.org sysops? (English is not my native language, so sorry for possible mistakes)
[11:10:57] 	 Anonim: yes
[11:11:25] 	 johnduhart: would be great to create a dumb user demo/demo with read-only credentials
[11:11:32] 	 johnduhart: not sure if it is possible though
[11:11:56] 	 hashar: You can register with google or github OAuth
[11:11:58] 	 p858snake|l Then see my previous message.
[11:12:11] 	 hashar: In production I'll have LDAP integration
[11:12:20] 	 if it ever goes to production
[11:12:31] 	 heh
[11:12:44] 	 MaxSem: around?
[11:12:50] 	 yup
[11:12:57] 	 hashar: Also, this is completely PHP
[11:13:00] 	 03(mod) Unable to add/remove buttons from (classic) toolbar from a gadget after MW update - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31511  (10mybugs.mail)
[11:13:02] 	 !docs
[11:13:03] 	 An overview of available documentation about MediaWiki can be found at 
[11:13:07] 	 MaxSem: [21:02]  Hello. Can I ask one of MediaWiki.org sysops for dealing with a small problem? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Newarticletext/ru — here are two grammar mistakes. «внутрикорпортаивном» should be replaced with «внутрикорпоративном» and «неподхоодящее» should be replaced with «неподходящее». Am I in the right place? :)
[11:13:09] 	 03(NEW) Version nightlies and git head differently - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33962 enhancement; Wikimedia Mobile: android; (sam)
[11:13:20] 	 03(mod) Build android nightly under a different name - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33804  +comment (10sam)
[11:13:25] 	 aha
[11:13:32] 	 (I'm not the biggest fan of changing translations when I can't speak the language)
[11:14:22] 	 03(mod) Integrate with screenreader TalkBack - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33956  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[11:14:30] 	 fixed
[11:14:48] 	 03(mod) Import sources for etwiki, etwikisource and etwiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33960  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[11:15:01] 	 Thanks.
[11:17:46] 	 hello, I'm trying to setup mediawiki to user Apache's REMOTE_USER auth method, and I'm looking for a way to force the user logout, without having to close the browser. Does anyone have ideas/pointers ?
[11:20:19] 	 s/to user/to use
[11:22:05] 	 03(mod) Move cursor on "page up" and "page down" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33057  +comment (10ashish.dubey91)
[11:34:36] 	 see you tonight
[11:34:44] 	 03hashar *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/Message.php: enhance doxygen generation for Message class
[11:47:04] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Why \see and not @see?; 
[11:55:36] 	 hello again, I'm trying to setup mediawiki to use Apache's REMOTE_USER auth method, and I'm looking for a way to force the user logout, without having to close the browser. Does anyone have ideas/pointers ?
[12:05:19] 	 03(NEW) Missing escaping in search-as-you-type suggestions of Monobook skin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33963 minor; MediaWiki: Javascript; (Amalthea.wikimedia)
[12:06:03] 	 Why I can't enter mw.org via SSL?
[12:06:35] 	 It's redirecting me back to non-SSL version
[12:06:48] 	 johnduhart: why are double underscore used in mediawiki
[12:08:28] 	 johnduhart:i mean in edit  of a page ,why are they used and then they are not event displayed
[12:09:06] 	 johnduhart: got it.. found on net..sorry to disturb :)
[12:14:31] 	 vvv: Are you trying to use https://mediawiki.org ?
[12:14:49] 	 Yes
[12:15:02] 	 Because that redirects to the non-ssl www.mw.org, it's a known problem
[12:15:07] 	 Oh
[12:15:12] 	 vvv: Go to https://www.mediawiki.org
[12:15:23] * vvv  complains about redirects-to-www
[12:15:30] 	 heh
[12:15:31] 	 They are so Web-1.0
[12:16:15] 	 the old secure url should work if you still know it I believe
[12:16:46] 	 p858snake|l: god we haven't retired that yet?
[12:16:48] 	 ^_^ HTTPS-Everywhere
[12:18:11] 	 johnduhart: it redirects but uses the old urls, so it should keep the secure connection alive I believe
[12:18:25] 	 Dantman: Doesn't work when the server is "broken"
[12:18:38] 	 or when you are using chrome :p
[12:18:40] 	 p858snake|l: Eh?
[12:18:46] 	 heh
[12:18:54] 	 Dantman: Try https://www.mediawiki.org
[12:19:03] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki
[12:19:12] 	 oh, the www. works now
[12:19:22] 	 its just the non www one that doesn't
[12:19:24] 	 s/now//
[12:19:28] 	 yup
[12:19:54] 	 And for https://mediawiki.org I get https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki
[12:20:17] 	 Dantman: you are lucky
[12:20:18] 	 Dantman: Really? Are you sure that's not HTTPS-Everywhere doing that?
[12:20:27] 	 Because I get http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki
[12:20:35] 	 ;) That's why I said HTTPS-Everywhere
[12:20:45] 	 heh
[12:20:53] * vvv  wants it for Chromium
[12:21:19] 	 Screw broken systems, HTTPS-Everywhere will just redirect you back to the https site even if they try to send you to the http site
[12:21:46] 	 There is a plugin for chrome that does similar, but the EFF recommends against it due to security reasons
[12:21:47] 	 vvv: One of these days they'll finish the chrome verision in the works
[12:23:10] 	 can someone add FeaturedFeeds to Bugzilla?
[12:30:42] 	 D5
[12:30:42] 	 D5 Tell the world about the king - http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/D5
[12:42:03] 	 03(mod) Integrate with screenreader TalkBack - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33956  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[12:44:15] 	 Reedy: You know you want to test phabricator for me
[12:44:22] 	 You're just dying to
[12:44:42] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator
[12:46:42] 	 03maxsem *  10/branches/MobileFrontend-API/: creating a branch for myself
[12:46:51] 	 Where do i put pdf files which i want  to link to in my mediawiki site?
[12:47:47] 	 MaxSem: Whoah svn branches
[12:48:27] 	 patience, young padawan - even SVN branches can be used
[12:48:52] 	 hi
[12:48:56] 	 Where do i put pdf files which i want  to link to in my mediawiki site?
[12:49:19] 	 how can I include Special:PopularPages into my main page?
[12:49:37] 	 diverdude: upload file
[12:49:54] 	 then mediawiki will tell you where you uploaded to
[12:50:04] 	 tstaerk, to where?
[12:50:21] 	 diverdude: you go to your wiki, log in, click on upload file
[12:50:24] 	 possible so far?
[12:51:03] 	 tstaerk, i dont have an upload button
[12:51:12] 	 diverdude: are you administrator of this wiki?
[12:51:19] 	 tstaerk, yes
[12:51:35] 	 CTRL_F -> upload will find it for you
[12:51:39] 	 right?
[12:51:40] 	 !upload | diverdude
[12:51:41] 	 diverdude: File uploads are disabled per default, set $wgEnableUploads=true; to enable it. See  for configuration details,  and  for using uploaded images and other files.
[12:51:57] 	 oh, thanks p858snake|l
[13:21:11] 	 https://github.com/sandsmark/QuasselDroid/commit/bd736a4335b55df63cad11092576c136c0d493be
[13:21:20] 	 remember kids, don't CUI
[13:30:07] <^demon>	 johnduhart: His mistake was admitting it in the commit summary ;-)
[13:31:04] 	 hehe
[13:31:33] 	 ^demon: I will give you $0 if you test this https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator
[13:31:38] 	 umm
[13:31:58] 	 why the fuck is Database::replaceVars protected?
[13:32:20] 	 Nikerabbit: Because it wasn't intended for use outside of the DB class?
[13:32:37] 	 now I can't do $dbw->query( $dbw->replaceVars( "CREATE INDEX /*i*/bar on /*_*/foo (daa)" ) );
[13:32:49] 	 and there is only sourceStream and sourceFile that call that
[13:33:31] 	 New code comment: Hashar; Backslashes is the way to enter commands in Doxygen. It comes from JavaDoc. The @ is an alias for co; 
[13:33:41] <^demon>	 Tim decided it in r14625.
[13:34:01] 	 I have a Problem: I am trying to set up a private mediawiki (registered users only). Is localited to german. But the "Special:ConfirmEmail" sites says access denied. I added it (in german an english) to the $wgWhitelistRead in my LocalSettings.php
[13:34:01] 	 Nikerabbit: that sucks
[13:34:19] 	 what should I do.. feels stupid that I would have to create a stream from string to access this nice feature
[13:34:38] 	 Nikerabbit: But what can't you do with the DatabaseUpdate hook?
[13:34:56] <^demon>	 query( replaceVars( $str ) )
[13:35:26] 	 johnduhart: this is a maintenance script, nothing to do with updating database
[13:35:33] 	 Nikerabbit: ah.
[13:36:06] <^demon>	 Nikerabbit: I don't have any strong opposition to making it public if there's tests for it.
[13:36:16] 	 ^demon: hurr :p
[13:37:00] 	 ^demon: So no taking on my offer of $0?
[13:37:14] <^demon>	 Thursdays are busy for me :\
[13:37:29] 	 JulianR: That sounds like a bug, that page should be whitelisted to begin with
[13:37:33] <^demon>	 And I'm already supposed to be looking at Roan's git-review tool.
[13:37:36] 	 ^demon: ah
[13:38:07] <^demon>	 Yeah, Tues/Thurs are my busy days this semester. Mon/Wed/Fri is the better day to try and bribe me to do things :)
[13:38:19] 	 durr
[13:38:45] 	 codurr: slowpoke
[13:42:20] 	 Ok I just found a bugreport ([Bug 6231]) with the same Problem but is from 2007 and should already be fixed. I will test the fix mentioned there anyways
[13:45:54] 	 03demon *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/Message.php: Fix r110054, \ -> @
[13:48:35] 	 https://github.com/epriestley/sshd-vcs-glue
[13:48:40] 	 Glues Phabricator to sshd-vcs
[13:48:45] 	 :O :O :O
[13:50:43] 	 03raymond *  10/trunk/translatewiki/MediaWiki/WikimediaMainAgg.yaml: r110030: Enabled on the WMF cluster for all wikis
[13:51:08] 	 ^demon: I'll tink about it
[13:54:03] 	 hey guillom - got a sec? I wanna tell you about something I'm doing that may end up in your .... bailiwick?
[13:54:58] 	 sumanah, give me a minute to find out what bailiwick means, then we can talk :)
[13:55:09] 	 haha, sure :)
[13:55:16] 	 alright
[13:55:52] 	 I'm all ears
[13:56:29] 	 guillom: so!  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.19/Roadmap is very very rough.  You probably know that.
[13:56:29] 	 Ok its a localizazion bug. When I change the language to english it works. But still "Special:ConfirmEmail" hast to be added to the $wgWhitelistRead array
[13:57:37] 	 guillom: that is to say, the timeline is rough.
[13:57:49] 	 ah
[13:58:03] 	 guillom: so I was in the room with Rob Lanphier as he was beginning to draft this, and I asked how we figure out what wikis should get het-deployed in what stages.
[13:58:25] 	 And he basically said "you're looking at it" and pointed out this is only the 2nd time ever we've been able to het-deploy in stages like this
[13:59:04] 	 guillom: so I am thinking -- I want to communicate more to the wikis about this
[13:59:20] 	 guillom: I talked to Maryana from the community department about it and got some ideas
[13:59:41] 	 guillom: I'm thinking that I want to spread the word that the deployments are gonna probably be coming in February, and tell them 3 things:
[14:00:02] 	 a) test now!!  on the test deployment site for your wiki!  I'm especially looking at you, Commons or sites with unusual gadgets or something!
[14:00:51] 	 b) Are there special days/dateranges in February where your community would be REALLY really unhappy if you had a window with no access or no editability?  Maybe there's an important election happening in one of the countries you serve that day?
[14:01:39] 	 c) Do you have some unusual technical thing -- user scripts, gadgets, unique bots, etc. -- set up on your wiki such that we should stagger you in a different stage than we had thought?
[14:01:44] 	 03rsterbin *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/api/ApiArticleFeedbackv5.php: Followup to r109385 - fixed missing global for abuse config flag
[14:02:02] 	 New code comment: ^demon; How about passing the context to BadTitleError so you don't have to use $wgOut?; 
[14:03:21] 	 sumanah, I'm waiting for the part where you tell me what exactly you want me to do :)
[14:03:24] 	 guillom: so I want us to reach out to the wikitech-ambassadors email list, to Maggie Dennis who is gathering a coterie of liaisons to different wiki communities, to the localisation-team@lists.wikimedia.org folks, to the language community (might be getting name wrong) teams that Gerard M. facilitates, to the IRC channel of wiki admins, and maybe to the translators that Siko B. can reach out to
[14:03:43] 	 guillom: do you think you would like to take any of that outreach work?
[14:04:48] 	 also, do you think any of this is a good or bad idea?
[14:05:35] 	 I think more proactive communication aimed at people who will first be impacted by the deployment is a good idea, and your plan sounds good to me
[14:05:52] 	 \o/
[14:06:01] 	 I'm happy to help as long as know what exactly I have to do
[14:06:11] 	 guillom: I think that is your motto :)
[14:06:33] 	 You probably figured out on your first day at work that I hate vagueness, yes :)
[14:07:02] 	 HAHA
[14:14:08] 	 sorry, guillom, got distracted by a couple things, am back
[14:14:15] 	 np
[14:14:33] 	 guillom: I will create A Plan
[14:14:36] <^demon>	 36% of the fixmes are by 1% of our code.
[14:14:42] 	 guillom: and suggest a subdivision of labour
[14:14:44] <^demon>	 < 1%, even
[14:14:49] 	 ^demon: this makes sense to me
[14:14:56] 	 ^demon: the book I'm reading has research about this
[14:15:01] 	 sumanah, sounds good to me.
[14:15:10] <^demon>	 36% of the fixmes are by one extension! One!
[14:15:13] 	 ok!
[14:15:16] 	 ^demon: which one?
[14:15:23] <^demon>	 ArticleFeedbackv5.
[14:15:41] 	 ^demon: their manager is bugging them to take care of them
[14:15:44] 	 you shoulda seen the email
[14:15:49] 	 it had words like "rigorous"
[14:16:16] <^demon>	 I heard. I just hadn't done the percentages til this morning.
[14:16:45] 	 guillom: just as a first indicator -- do any of my suggested tasks make more or less sense to you, and, would you prefer specifically to do, say, the email-y bits more than the IRC-y bits?
[14:17:36] 	 sumanah, it's all the same to me; I trust you to assign the tasks to whoever you feel is more appropriate.
[14:18:18] 	 :) ok
[14:21:43] 	 ok, thanks guillom 
[14:21:53] 	 I'm gonna look for an appropriate project page to put this stuff on
[14:21:56] 	 1.19 deployment thingy
[14:25:10] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.19/Wikimedia_deployment ?
[14:26:04] 	 actually, guillom - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.19/Roadmap#Communications !!
[14:26:45] 	 hmm, 
[14:26:49] 	 Yes, we can have a subsection for deployment, and another one for the release.
[14:26:55] 	 I am going to put a little plan there as well, hope you do not mind
[14:26:59] 	 Be Bold. :)
[14:26:59] 	 ugga
[14:27:09] 	 Greetings, Nikerabbit .
[14:28:03] 	 guillom: ok!
[14:34:04] 	 14(INVALID) Category will not go to "next 200" under certain circumstances. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33954  +comment (10Bawolff)
[14:46:04] 	 03(mod) Unable to add/remove buttons from (classic) toolbar from a gadget after MW update - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31511  +comment (10mah)
[14:55:50] 	 03(mod) Ctrl+left/right to jump by word does not work properly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33064  +comment (10ashish.dubey91)
[14:55:51] 	 03hashar *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/Message.php:
[14:55:51] 	 update Message class doc
[14:55:51] 	 Ping r110054
[15:13:29] 	 03(mod) create more complex fallback language rules. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17608  +comment (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[15:15:26] 	 hello
[15:16:09] 	 i work for the bbc
[15:16:25] 	 and was wondering if it would be ok to use one of the images posted on your site
[15:17:05] 	 davebbc: which photo?
[15:17:40] 	 patiency++
[15:27:39] 	 03(mod) Add {{DEFAULTSORT}} variable that returns the currently set defaultsort key - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16448  +comment (10bugzilla.wikimedia)
[15:31:22] 	 03rsterbin *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/api/ApiArticleFeedbackv5.php: Followup to r110011 -- SpamBlacklist check now works with both 1.18wmf1 and the trunk version
[15:32:28] 	 Hi! I have a query regarding custom js/css. If I have a javascript + css which adds some effect in the page, but want to add such an effect only to a certain 
 on a wiki page. How do I do that?
[15:33:48] 	 Apoc_: can you be more specific please
[15:34:06] 	 Apoc_: You mean detecting 
 or something?
[15:34:16] 	 yeah.. like here : https://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/mockups/ajax-mockups/DynamicMainPage/index.html
[15:34:25] 	 i made a mockup last year
[15:34:49] 	 now here i added a js & added a div before the table
[15:34:58] 	 so that there could be a few effects
[15:35:08] 	 just to showcase 
[15:36:33] 	 Apoc_: what is the effect you want to add?
[15:36:50] 	 the livescroll in "In the news"
[15:37:31] 	 for that I had to add a div before the column
[15:37:35] 	 in the saved page
[15:37:51] 	 similarly in 2 more examples also
[15:38:19] 	 getElementbyId or some equivalent, I think?
[15:38:27] 	 Or just use jQuery.
[15:38:33] 	 $('#id') or something.
[15:38:43] 	 Apoc_: yesh!!
[15:38:51] 	 There should like a million examples of this on the Web.
[15:38:55] 	 should be *
[15:39:29] 	 Is hexmode dead?
[15:39:34] 	 hexmode: Are you dead?
[15:39:44] 	 lol'
[15:39:47] 	 New code comment: Rsterbin; Fixed in r110059; 
[15:39:52] 	 na..i am asking like if I make an extension in mediawiki, for eg. to float the content box
[15:40:14] 	 how do I detect the div then?
[15:40:46] 	 https://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/mockups/ajax-mockups/FloatingToc/index.html
[15:40:49] 	 i meant this
[15:41:12] 	 for css fixed for content box
[15:42:04] 	 here, i added a 
[15:42:11] 	 id*
[15:42:41] 	 is there any similar way to add/detect divs, while making extensions for mediawiki?
[15:43:48] 	 New code comment: ^demon; Do not explicitly make this public. I know there's no functional difference but there's a practical ; 
[15:45:14] 	 sumanah: ping
[15:45:49] 	 Joan: ?
[15:46:12] 	 You want PHP to detect the presence of a 
 or you want JavaScript to do it?
[15:46:18] 	 Either is possible.
[15:46:38] 	 03(FIXED) Textboxes now unbearably narrow in text browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33780  +comment (10Chad H.)
[15:48:14] 	 Joan: could you direct me to both ways? 
[15:48:28] 	 Apoc_: For PHP detection, look at magic words functionality.
[15:48:39] 	 Or look at an extension like "Poem," I guess.
[15:48:46] 	 For JavaScript detection, use jQuery.
[15:48:52] 	 It's easy syntax.
[15:49:05] 	 A little googling should go far.
[15:49:26] 	 ya, actually i was asking with ref to extensions.
[15:49:56] 	 hi potter 
[15:50:02] 	 Am still unsure how I make 1 from scratch
[15:50:08] 	 03(mod) "cols" preference is redundant and should be removed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24430  +comment (10MZMcBride)
[15:50:20] 	 so, just wanted to implement the existing.
[15:50:22] 	 Apoc_: How to make ane xtension?
[15:50:25] 	 an extension
[15:50:31] 	 sumanah: hay.. i was reading through mediawiki code for past 3-4 days
[15:50:33] 	 great!
[15:50:35] 	 It depends where you want to put the extension.
[15:50:50] 	 sumanah: i now have a better view of mediwiki
[15:50:51] 	 If you want it in SVN (svn.wikimedia.org), apply for commit access.
[15:51:09] 	 If you just want a personal extension, copy the files from a simple extension (like Extension:Poem) and adapt it to your needs.
[15:51:30] 	 sumanah: but i have yet not touched the API stuff....
[15:51:43] 	 potter: makes sense to me
[15:52:08] 	 03(mod) Ctrl-arrow doesn't match normal text editor's behavior - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33146  +comment (10Ashish Dubey)
[15:52:09] 	 sumanah: so what shall i do further?
[15:52:20] 	 potter: tell me of your aims
[15:52:26] 	 Actually, I want to improve the Wiki interface. If you take the example of floating table, can it be done using an extension?
[15:52:33] 	 or some API?
[15:52:37] 	 Apoc_: you may be interested in Gadgets
[15:52:40] 	 sumanah:aims?? i didnt get you
[15:52:45] 	 Apoc_: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gadget_kitchen
[15:52:48] 	 potter: your goals
[15:52:58] 	 potter: what you aim to achieve, learn, do, or be
[15:53:23] 	 sumanah: you mean goals for life?i like coding and want to contribute.. i currently have no BIg aims
[15:54:10] 	 sumanah: Thanks
[15:54:15] 	 Joan: Thanks
[15:54:18] 	 for your help
[15:54:23] 	 I'll see into Gadgets too
[15:54:40] 	 Apoc_: great.  try looking at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gadget_kitchen/Training as well.
[15:54:50] 	 although that is more meant to be a reference guide during an in-person tutorial
[15:55:17] 	 hey Reedy, maybe you know - http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/81507 - "when we say "remove support for legacy skins", are we talking pre-vector or pre-monobook?" asks someone
[15:55:23] 	 quick qn: After finishing with a gadget, I should just share it in the WikiTech1 mailing list..aint it?
[15:55:40] 	 potter: so, tell me -- so far, in reading MediaWiki code and playing around, what have you liked and what have you not liked?
[15:55:41] 	 Sure.
[15:56:12] 	 Apoc_: that is a reasonable thing to do. another reasonable thing to do is to look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Gadget
[15:56:21] 	 "Proposal" is active, "Evaluation" is not.
[15:56:29] 	 sumanah: hmm.. nothing like that..
[15:56:54] 	 potter: you have not had any particularly good or bad experiences?  you have neither liked nor disliked any activity?
[15:57:23] 	 sumanah: i didnt like the use of GLBALS
[15:57:30] 	 potter: :-)  you are not alone.
[15:57:47] 	 sumanah: Globals.. got painened with them... i know i m not alone
[15:58:09] 	 People are actively working on removing usages of some of the more evil globals
[15:58:12] 	 sumanah: see basically i like the php part more than JS part
[15:58:24] 	 potter: ^demon aims to work on this I think: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Globals_are_evil
[15:58:37] 	 potter: that's good to know!  
[15:58:46] <^demon>	 That's an ongoing war.
[15:58:57] 	 Aha. Cool. I'll get back here if I have anymore doubts. & Apologies for asking rather stupid qns. :P
[15:59:02] 	 potter: the more you know what you like and what you don't like, the better I, and other people, can guide you in finding things you'll like to work on
[15:59:05] 	 Apoc_: no apology necessary
[15:59:10] 	 Apoc_: that's how we learn!
[15:59:27] 	 yeah. Thanks a ton for help. :)
[16:00:06] 	 potter: so -- have you tried writing a little extension for your own use?
[16:00:55] 	 sumanah: there was some connection problem
[16:01:22] 	 sumanah: ping
[16:01:26] 	 potter_: hi
[16:01:31] 	 potter_:  potter: so -- have you tried writing a little extension for your own use?
[16:01:44] 	 sumanah: no not yet
[16:01:46] 	 potter: the more you know what you like and what you don't like, the better I, and other people, can guide you in finding things you'll like to work on  -- so your PHP preference is good to know
[16:02:02] 	 potter_:  potter: that is probably the next step.  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/List_of_simple_extensions
[16:02:15] 	 sumanah: so you suggest i write a simple extension
[16:02:21] 	  yes
[16:02:42] 	 sumanah: ok i'll do that
[16:02:46] 	 potter: potter_ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_requests can give you ideas if you want some, but be warned that many of them will be too hard for you right now
[16:03:17] 	 sumanah: as mediawiki code is huge.. which part of code must be read by a beginer
[16:03:53] 	 potter_: that is a good question.
[16:03:59] 	 potter_: did you read that Architecture Document?
[16:04:03] 	 sumanah: :)
[16:04:23] 	 sumanah: no?which one?where is it?
[16:04:23] 	 No symbol 'it' found anywhere.
[16:04:40] 	 potter_: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_architecture_document/text
[16:05:04] 	 potter_: I am fairly sure I gave you a link to it before.  also it is linked to from the How To Become A MediaWiki Hacker page.
[16:05:27] 	 sumanah: oh..sry
[16:05:31] 	 no prob
[16:05:42] 	 I think it will help you understand how the application works on a structural level
[16:05:51] 	 this will also help you understand what hooks into what
[16:06:37] 	 sumanah: what are other list of documents i should read?tell me.. i am free today completely :)
[16:07:07] 	 guillom I want you to see all your work being used :-D
[16:07:21] 	 potter_: guillom worked a lot on these documents and will enjoy knowing that people are reading them
[16:07:51] 	 sumanah: thats nice..
[16:07:52] 	 potter_: while it's important to read useful documents, it's also important to get into a rhythm of *trying out exercises* and doing things and playing around more often than you read.
[16:08:24] 	 sumanah: yeah.. i'll read this and after that try out my own extension 
[16:09:17] 	 potter_: the architecture document, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker , https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/index.php?title=File:Hacking_mediawiki.pdf&page=1 ( "Hacking MediaWiki"), https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/index.php?title=File:Wikimedia_Infrastructure_Utrecht_LUG_2011.pdf&page=1 on our infrastructure
[16:10:04] 	 potter_: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Presentations and https://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Schedule have useful links to talks that we have given -- often slides and videos are available
[16:10:24] 	 @_@ Playing around with BuddyPress for a client project makes me want to build a full base extension for social site stuff in MediaWiki
[16:11:39] 	 sumanah: these will keep me busy in the weekend :D
[16:12:12] 	 potter_: great, and I hope they are useful
[16:12:39] 	 guillom: if you have a moment, may I pm?
[16:13:17] 	 sumanah: yeah..i'll ping and pain you after i finish these :P
[16:13:29] 	 good luck and best wishes
[16:13:49] 	 sumanah: thanks and cya..
[16:16:24] 	 03jhsoby *  10/trunk/extensions/DonationInterface/gateway_common/interface.i18n.php: Adding one more one-time message
[16:16:38] 	 sumanah, yup
[16:17:09] 	 03jhsoby *  10/trunk/extensions/DonationInterface/gateway_common/interface.i18n.php: Fix typo in r110062
[16:21:35] 	 hi Reedy
[16:21:43] 	 ohai Nikerabbit
[16:21:53] 	 Reedy: can I commit new features to WMF extensions?
[16:22:10] 	 during the code slush you mean?
[16:22:12] 	 Ideally not
[16:22:19] 	 That's not stopping AFTv5 though
[16:22:22] 	 yes right now
[16:22:26] 	 to Translate
[16:22:36] 	 I have thousands lines of code lying around
[16:23:42] 	 and I want the features on translatewiki.net
[16:23:44] 	 Nikerabbit: if you & the i18n team can help get the # of unreviewed commits & the number of FIXMEs down to 0 then we can end the slush :D
[16:24:23] 	 sumanah: honestly I think our team has done everything it can to help reach that goal
[16:24:28] 	 at least 14 of 139 fixmes are aftv5
[16:24:36] 	 Nikerabbit: ok
[16:25:03] 	 Reedy: I hope 139 is typo of 39 :)
[16:25:10] 	 haha, yes
[16:35:10] 	 in dokuwiki one can add \\ at the end of the line and its replaced with Newline, is there something similiar in mediawiki?
[16:39:09] 	 03(mod) HTML dump is missing all images due to new FileBackend code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33878  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:39:43] 	 two newlines
[16:39:58] 	 03(mod) Visual representation of diacritic in Arabic special chars - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33895  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:44:33] 	 03ialex *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/WikiPage.php:
[16:44:34] 	 * Do the page existence check before calling ignore_user_abort() so that we don't return after having modified that value
[16:44:34] 	 * Change the check to use $oldid since we already have the result of getLatest()
[17:00:42] 	 hexmode: Reedy, guillom, ^demon, robla, I just sent a note to the wikitech ambassadors asking for testing on the deployment test sites
[17:01:03] 	 I cc'd wikitech-l so you'll see it.  if I said anything inaccurate or undesirable please let me know and I will send a followup
[17:01:15] 	 thanks
[17:01:22] 	 sumanah++
[17:02:10] 	 robla: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:MediaWiki_1.19/Roadmap and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.19/Roadmap#Communications are now things you should skim 
[17:05:11] 	 03(NEW) Wrong href in ApiSandbox examples - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33966 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ApiSandbox; (mormegil)
[17:08:24] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/tools/make-wmf-branch/default.conf: (log message trimmed)
[17:08:25] 	 Updates in preperation for 1.19wmf1 (yes, I know, we need to branch REL1_19 first...)
[17:08:25] 	 Added ArticleFeedbackv5, CongressLookup, Contest, FeaturedFeeds, MarkAsHelpful, ZeroRatedMobileAccess
[17:08:25] 	 Updated specials to point at 1.18wmf1 for now
[17:08:25] 	 Specials need re-evaluated and working out if any should be branched from trunk.
[17:08:25] 	 Probably in most cases, we will want to grab from trunk this time, for all the
[17:08:26] 	 context changes and other stuff that has been changed in MWs structure
[17:10:53] 	 Isn't there some magical and simple way to purge a page from a maintenance script?
[17:11:35] 	 TimStarling: your Lua sandboxing extension is amazing
[17:15:25] 	 03(mod) ResourceLoader should work around IE's limit on number of