[00:01:51] 03(FIXED) Article Feedback Page - Don't show sad face when user doesn't click Yes nor No - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34085 (10Greg Chiasson) [00:07:57] 03(FIXED) Create interwiki for the the Brazilian chapter wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32752 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:08:58] 03(FIXED) Interwiki cache update - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34103 +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [00:14:40] 03(NEW) Block creation of js and css subpages for IP and non-registered usernames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34108 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (gustronico) [00:18:39] 03(mod) Interwiki cache update - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34103 +comment (10pgehres) [00:24:50] 03(mod) PhoneGap-based iOS app: hash links don't scroll (including references) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34002 +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman) [00:26:19] 03(NEW) When I edit a page, the interwiki links show as redlinks. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34109 major; Wikimedia: Interwiki links; (painius) [00:27:30] 03(mod) When I edit a page, the interwiki links show as redlinks. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34109 (10Paine Ellsworth) [00:27:31] 03(NEW) urgent: interwikilinks do not work anymore and appear as redlinks in the page on is.wikt and fo.wikt (and maybe others) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34110 critical; Wikimedia: Interwiki links; (spacebirdy) [00:30:08] hi dlemieux [00:30:17] 03(mod) When I edit a page, the interwiki links show as redlinks. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34109 (10Paine Ellsworth) [00:30:40] Hey sumanah! [00:30:55] huh, hexmode, the interwiki link stuff -- I just saw something on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk about that as well [00:31:03] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk#Interwiki.27s_at_WikiMedia_11576 [00:31:16] dlemieux: how is it going? [00:31:35] 03gregchiasson * 10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/SpecialArticleFeedbackv5.php: AFT5: Per Oliver, the editors feedback help should be shown to logged in users who aren't in the hider or deleter groups. [00:33:06] sumanah: it is going great! The vancouver code sprint was really fun to help with getting starting on the Wiktionary app [00:33:39] I'm so glad! [00:36:18] 03(mod) Blocking/Permissions Rewrite - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/14636 (10mybugs.mail) [00:36:18] 03(mod) Implementation of selective blocking by namespaces for the Portuguese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28530 (10mybugs.mail) [00:37:13] dlemieux: if you have any blockers, I'm sure you'll let me, tomaszf, yuvi, or Amgine know [00:40:25] 03(mod) Implementation of selective blocking by namespaces for the Portuguese Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28530 (10mybugs.mail) [00:43:12] 03(mod) When I edit a page, the interwiki links show as redlinks. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34109 +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara) [00:44:15] * sumanah is in x2003 [00:54:39] 03(mod) Please lock *.labs.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33644 +comment (10Erik Moeller) [01:09:43] 03reedy * 10/trunk/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance/dumpInterwiki.php: [01:09:43] Revert part of r109617 [01:09:43] Breaks updates. Will re-evaluate it after sleep [01:09:43] Remove big seperator [01:11:47] 03reedy * 10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/maintenance/dumpInterwiki.php: Revert out part of r109618, after r110454 [01:12:31] New code comment: Aaron Schulz; Always got to slip in some style cleanup :); [01:13:15] 257 * @param $entry [01:13:16] 258 * @param $source [01:13:22] killer documentation :) [01:23:14] Hi all. I need to create an AuthPlugin, but one which automatically logs in users (i.e, i don't want to use mediawiki's login form). Is this possible? [01:25:18] cslcm: in case no one gives you an answer here, try mediawiki-l [01:25:21] !lists | cslcm [01:25:22] cslcm: mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details. [01:27:20] nah, mailing lists are ridiculous, not gonna do that. I'll work it out myself. [01:27:37] thanks for the pointer though [01:39:48] 03(FIXED) When I edit a page, the interwiki links show as redlinks. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34109 +comment (10Paine Ellsworth) [01:58:30] 04(REOPENED) File redirects should still show usage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34007 +comment (10Bawolff) [02:03:24] 03(mod) Change logo at Indonesian Wikibooks (id.wikibooks.org) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34043 +shell; +comment (10Bawolff) [02:04:03] 03(mod) Change logo at Indonesian Wikibooks (id.wikibooks.org) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34043 +comment (10bawolff+wn) [02:17:32] New code comment: Tim Starling; You should probably throw an exception if the base is something other than 16 or 36, or if the numbe; [02:21:46] New code comment: Tim Starling; Would it be possible to move setContainerAccess() to cloudfiles after the 1.19 branch point?; [02:32:49] 03christian * 10/USERINFO/christian: Adding my USERINFO file. [02:46:47] 03christian * 10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/contentEditable/ (index.php rangy/rangy-position.js): adding range pixel position detection [02:52:03] 03christian * 10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/contentEditable/index.php: testing commit access [02:55:33] what is the maximum amount of memory one apache process use during a request, e.g. for english wiki [02:55:33] I [02:55:51] I am trying to calculate the number of clients my server can support [02:57:01] of course, except the shared memory [03:07:56] hi all, if nobody's too busy, I could use some help: I'm trying to block some people from viewing my Wiki, but I don't how. [03:08:07] they don't have accounts or anything [03:09:37] !secrets | Shyft [03:09:37] Shyft: MediaWiki was not designed with read-restrictions in mind, and may not provide air-tight protection against unauthorized access. We will not be held responsible should private information, such as a password or bank details, be leaked, leading to loss of funds or one's job. See also !lockdown [03:09:53] !lockdown [03:09:53] Lockdown is an extension for preventing read or write access by namespace and limiting access to special pages, see < http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown >. For per-page access protection, see !ppp. For general information on preventing access to your wiki, see !access. [03:10:15] !access [03:10:15] For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see . [03:10:26] [03:10:40] it's cool [03:11:09] so that password warning or whatever is mostly to explain that it's not secure and i shouldn't be posing sensitive informaiton on a wiki anyway? [03:11:25] which is fine because I wasn't, I just want to keep some malicious users off the thing [03:12:29] hmm, user rights is probably what i need... [03:20:35] what is MediaWikiCommon.css? [03:36:01] New code comment: Tim Starling; Optional boolean parameters which default to false are one of the few acceptable applications of emp; [03:39:48] 03tstarling * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/backend/SwiftFileBackend.php: [03:39:48] * Documentation fix [03:39:48] * Binary mode on php://output, for consistency. [03:44:46] New code comment: Tim Starling; I may have misled you a bit with my outdated knowledge of binary mode: "As of PHP 4.3.2, the default; [04:09:02] 03(NEW) "New messages" on www.mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34111 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (jidanni) [04:44:22] 03aaron * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/media/ (Bitmap.php MediaTransformOutput.php): [04:44:22] Deferred File::getLocalRef() in BitmapHandler and altered MediaTransformOutput [04:44:22] to compensate. They were getting called on every getTransform() call, which are [04:44:22] triggered by just looking at pages with files (like Special:ListFiles). This [04:44:22] made page loads very slow for non-FS backends. [04:44:25] * Aaron|home wonders why namespace selector tests fail [04:48:58] How do I link to a magnet: link on a MediaWiki? The standard syntax of [url:... link text] doesn't seem to work. [04:50:46] New code comment: Aaron Schulz; On my wiki (using Win 7, PHP 5.3.0): \
 \ 1) HtmlTest::testNamespaceSelector \ Basic namespace select; 
[04:53:59] 	 03amire80 *  10/trunk/phase3/tests/phpunit/languages/ (14 files): Adding plural tests for more languages.
[04:57:31] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; if ( $hashLevels == 0 || $hashLevels == 2 ) {
 \ This is wrong. I caught myself with this m; 
[04:58:22] 	 03aaron *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/backend/FileBackend.php: Quick fix to getContainerHashLevels() comparison from r110435.
[05:01:46] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; I meant "paranoid check in getContainerShard()"...err; 
[05:04:31] 	 New code comment: Santhosh.thottingal; PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined method TTMServerBootstrap::exit() in /path/extensions/Translate/; 
[05:04:53] 	 Hi, Is it possible to somehow send variable number of arguments to Templates, from what I see in the documentation that's apparently not directly supported, however, wondering if there's some hack or if I am missing something
[05:11:52] 	 Kr1ks: As far as I know, you can use named parameters for that, with default values.
[05:12:14] 	 Kr1ks: I've certainly seen a pile of templates in Wikipedia that seem to do that; they have umpteen parameters but all of them have defaults.
[05:13:08] 	 03(FIXED) urgent: interwikilinks do not work anymore and appear as redlinks in the page on is.wikt and fo.wikt (and maybe others) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34110  (10spacebirdy)
[05:14:51] 	 JoshTriplett:That would mean I should expect the max number of parameters and have defaults for all, imagine I have an array to pass and want to construct a string using all the elements of the array (e.g., [A,B,C,D] -> A%2cB%2cC%2cD). I am looking into Parser functions now, any thoughts on that?
[05:15:27] 	 03(mod) [SF] Special:RunQuery error takes down pages using it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33424  +comment (10fastgoldfish)
[05:15:48] 	 Kr1ks: Ah, I see.  You don't just want optional parameters, you want an arbitrary list, but you want to loop over them rather than just having them passed as a unit.
[05:16:06] 	 exactly
[05:16:16] 	 member:identifier:joshtriplett:Exactly
[05:16:38] 	 Kr1ks: Not currently possible as far as I know.  Currently, templates would just have you pass the string you want rather than constructing it for you from components.
[05:16:45] 	 JoshTriplett:Sorry
[05:16:55] 	 Kr1ks: Happens, though I wonder how that one happened. :)
[05:18:29] 	 JoshTriplett:Had your nick copied earlier (my laziness to type) and was in buffer which got pasted
[05:18:36] 	 03(mod) Category sorting should be case-sensitive on iswiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30722  +comment (10spacebirdy)
[05:18:38] 	 JoshTriplett: :-)
[05:19:34] 	 Kr1ks: Ah.  That's why I use tab completion.  For me, your nick is Kr1[tab].  And given the nicks in the rest of the channel, you could type mine as Jos[tab]. :)
[05:20:10] 	 In any case, good luck with attempting to have more programming-language-like features in MediaWiki. :)
[05:20:11] 	 Joan: Tab-completion never fails!
[05:20:15] 	 Seems like something useful.
[05:20:20] 	 Joan: Heh.
[05:20:57] 	 JoshTriplett: Cool! Thanks! :-)
[05:21:38] 	 03(mod) [SF] Special:RunQuery error takes down pages using it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33424  +comment (10fastgoldfish)
[05:23:05] 	 03(mod) Change logo at Indonesian Wikibooks (id.wikibooks.org) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34043  +comment (10bknliem)
[05:31:54] 	 03(mod) Special:FormEdit/form/page?redlink=1 should redirect to page if page exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33495  +comment (10fastgoldfish)
[05:41:46] 	 New code comment: Tim Starling; This seems like a very large can of worms that you're opening here. \ You're calling set_time_limit(; 
[05:47:16] 	 New code comment: Santhosh.thottingal; When we run maintenance/update.php, the index tmf_text is created. So while running this ttmserver-; 
[05:53:06] 	 03(mod) RSS feed of te.wikipedia.org does not provide customized feed of my watch list, as per preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23804  (10Arjuna Rao Chavala)
[05:57:20] 	 TimStarling: use $wgRequestTime? :)
[05:58:20] 	 there's another little detail, which is that max_execution_time measures CPU time, not wall clock time
[05:59:09] 	 $wgRequestTime and time() are wall clock time, so they don't tell you how long is left on the clock
[05:59:27] 	 and what if someone else called set_time_limit() for some good reason?
[05:59:54] 	 like I say, it's a can of worms
[06:01:19] 	 1s granularity, bad interfaces, platform-dependent behaviour
[06:02:39] * Aaron|home  wishes there was a get_time_remaining()
[06:02:42] 	 meh
[06:02:58] 	 well, that's part of what I mean by bad interfaces
[06:03:34] 	 but then, PHP tries to support a very wide range of platforms
[06:03:36] 	 there is rusage...but that isn't in windows
[06:03:56] 	 if all you have is alarm() then it's going to be difficult to measure time remaining
[06:05:49] 	 New code comment: Santhosh.thottingal; Why we need blob type for tms_context? \  tms_context mediumblob NOT NULL default '' ; 
[06:07:29] 	 TimStarling: any suggestions for preventing timeouts in the middle of an op batch?
[06:07:49] 	 make MediaWiki faster
[06:07:59] 	 Of course, you try to do stuff fast anyway, but if stuff is slow it sucks to die in the middle
[06:08:09] 	 seriously, how much of a problem is it?
[06:08:37] 	 what if someone moves a file that has inexplicably hundreds of versions
[06:09:10] 	 also depends how large they are
[06:09:24] 	 I guess that could take a while
[06:09:35] 	 03neilk *  10/branches/extensions-realtime/WikiEditor/ (4 files in 2 dirs): commit just to record what has been done - leaving WMF today
[06:09:36] * Aaron|home  wishes the file path schema for local repos was different
[06:10:45] 	 presumably the DB transaction will be open until the file operations finish
[06:11:12] 	 so half the versions will be moved but the DB will still indicate that they are at the old location
[06:11:18] 	 because it will be rolled back
[06:11:23] 	 yep
[06:11:51] 	 maybe we can have a DB transaction journal and a daemon that rollbacks back failed ones :D
[06:12:31] 	 can you move the timeout hack out to the UI level?
[06:12:52] 	 then there's less concern about modules interfering with each other, and less problems with one-second granularity
[06:13:16] 	 using that class or just a raw set_time_limit() call?
[06:13:38] 	 that class is nice, maybe it will need renaming though
[06:13:58] 	 gtg
[06:14:13] 	 bye
[06:22:31] 	 Aaron|home: a quick question, do you know the maximum size of the apache process for mediawiki, e.g. when processing english wiki or any other wiki
[06:23:05] 	 except the shared memory, I am trying to set the number of servers for my apache setup
[06:37:29] 	 03neilk *  10/branches/extensions-realtime/WikiEditor/modules/ (2 files): adding work done just to preserve it, uncertain about status
[07:34:16] 	 03amire80 *  10/trunk/extensions/Narayam/resources/ext.narayam.core.js: Comments cleanup.
[07:42:54] 	 03(mod) Semantic search fields - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34011  +comment (10Sam Wilson)
[07:48:22] 	 03(mod) [SMW] Semantic search: Comparators in property "record" are ineffective - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34019  summary (10Klaus Wendel)
[07:56:45] 	 03(mod) MediaWiki is unable to send emails: "SAFE MODE Restriction in effect. The fifth parameter is disabled in SAFE MODE" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34099  +comment (10jukey)
[08:05:31] 	 liangent, around?
[08:07:23] 	 Hello, I need help. I upgraded an older MW version to trunk and found that User:SetupSession() is not avaliable any more. Is that now replaced by wfSetupSession() in GlobaLFunctions ?
[08:17:50] 	 New code comment: Raymond; {{messagedocumentation}} \ $2 = ?; 
[08:19:02] 	 03raymond *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ArticleFeedbackv5.i18n.php: r110450: Remove trailing space, simplify GENDER arguments because text is gender neutral (in English)
[08:29:55] 	 03raymond *  10/trunk/translatewiki/MediaWiki/WikimediaAgg.yaml: r110441: Merged into the 1.18wmf1 branch for deployment next week
[08:34:36] 	 03(NEW) Styles / CSS are gone after page reload (F5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34112 critical; MediaWiki: Templates; (jukey)
[08:34:36] 	 F5: http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/file/view/PHID-FILE-b2j7b3537wesajtof752/github-profile.jpg - github-profile.jpg
[08:37:46] 	 03(mod) Styles / CSS are gone after page reload (F5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34112  +comment (10Uwe Kaminski)
[08:41:04] 	 New code comment: Siebrand; Maybe I just don't understand what the "alternate postal code message" is for. Can you elaborate?; 
[08:48:19] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Actually it could probably say ''what he/she/they was looking for''.; 
[09:08:20] 	 03amire80 *  10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (MessageGroups.php Translate.php):
[09:08:20] 	 Added mediawiki.util as dependency to ext.translate.messagetable. It loaded it in the past and stopped for some reason.
[09:08:20] 	 Did a little comment cleanup in MessageGroups.php.
[09:14:15] 	 03(VERIFIED) labsconsole wiki could use SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34094  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[09:48:07] 	 03(mod) Styles / CSS are gone after page reload (F5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34112  +comment (10jukey)
[09:48:07] 	 F5: http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/file/view/PHID-FILE-b2j7b3537wesajtof752/github-profile.jpg - github-profile.jpg
[09:52:08] 	 03(mod) Styles / CSS are gone after page reload (F5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34112  +comment (10jukey)
[09:56:47] 	 query:  when code refers to $wgSitename  ; what is it looking at?
[09:59:39] 	 Shyft: $wgSitename is set in LocalSettings.php
[10:00:03] 	 So it' sa variable? I can just set it to whatever I want
[10:01:17] 	 Yeah
[10:01:33] 	 Only edit LocalSettings.php though, don't edit any other files to set $wgSitename
[10:01:57] 	 right, messing with questycaptcha and needed to figure out how that works
[10:02:21] 	 thanks RoanKattouw !
[10:04:52] 	 03amire80 *  10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (Translate.i18n.php Translate.php api/ApiGroupReview.php): Fix bug 34046. If the same workflow state is already set, show an error message, don't touch the DB and don't log anything.
[10:05:19] 	 03(mod) Group review API allows changing workflow status to the current state - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34046  +comment (10amir.aharoni)
[10:13:26] 	 03(mod) Please lock *.labs.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33644  +comment (10benapetr)
[10:14:12] 	 03gwicke *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/parser/ext.core.ParserFunctions.js: Add source for #time implementation in comment
[10:15:32] 	 03nikerabbit *  10/trunk/extensions/Translate/specials/SpecialLanguageStats.php: Allow syntax like {{Special:MessageGroupStats|group=page-Main/sub|suppresscomplete=1}}
[10:17:08] 	 03nikerabbit *  10/trunk/extensions/Translate/scripts/ttmserver-export.php: Fix two issues reported in CR of r110215
[10:18:49] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; That seems to be most used type for this type of fields.; 
[10:27:46] 	 anyone here using netbeans on ubuntu?
[10:30:14] 	 03ialex *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/specials/ (SpecialCAProfile.php SpecialOAProfile.php): svn:eol-style native
[10:32:38] 	 03gwicke *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/parser/README.txt:
[10:32:38] 	 Remove some modules normally bundled with node.js from dependencies, and
[10:32:38] 	 remove some older ones that are only used in currently-dead code.
[11:04:02] 	 03(mod) if another convert.exe is on the PATH, the webserver blocks installation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33885  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[11:05:47] 	 03(mod) if another convert.exe is on the PATH, the webserver blocks installation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33885  04BLOCKER->major; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[11:06:50] 	 do we have a tracking bug for Microsoft Windows specific issues?
[11:10:15] 	 isn't tag enough
[11:10:56] 	 hashar: we have a IIS tracking bug
[11:13:14] 	 p858snake|l: seen that one
[11:13:25] 	 looks like we do not have that many bug afflicting windows anyway
[11:15:08] 	 03(mod) ~~~~~ shows (���� (�W����)) on Windows XP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/751  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[11:15:12] 	 oooold bug
[11:15:38] 	 out for lunch cya
[11:17:24] 	 03(mod) if another convert.exe is on the PATH, the webserver blocks installation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33885  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[11:38:30] 	 03(mod) Some vowel combination in Sinhala Wijesekara need to be corrected - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32029  major->15enhancement; +comment (10Siebrand)
[11:41:07] 	 hi all, i have a mediawiki created, and users are not required to be authorised by an admin, i now have spam everywhere! is anybody able to instruct me how to lock down my wiki so that i have to allow user requests? thanks!
[11:42:11] 	 DoFoT91: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit
[11:42:23] 	 you mean ConfirmAccount?
[11:42:39] 	 03(mod) Opera 11.61 does not display saz font - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31823  summary; +comment (10Siebrand)
[11:42:44] 	 DoFoT91: use ConfirmEdit and a captcha of your choice.. i like "Asirra" (the cats/dogs pictures)
[11:42:47] 	 no i mean so that in order for anybody to create an account on my wiki, only i can authorise it Nikerabbit
[11:42:57] 	 oh confirmaccount, yes that may work
[11:43:18] 	 mutante: so that means it has captcha when creating/editing a page?
[11:44:33] 	 DoFoT91: depends how you configure it, there are 5 actions it can trigger on> edit, create, addurl, createaccount, badlogin
[11:45:08] 	 you can set each one to false/true , see the Configuration section
[11:45:10] 	 ahh ok, i would more prefer that i authorise the creating of accounts as a priority. i have over 1000 pages created!
[11:45:25] 	 yup just browsing now, extremely new to MediaWiki so the config of it all is hard to understand atm
[11:45:26] 	 then just set createaccount to true
[11:45:38] 	 sure, ill give that a go :)
[11:45:52] 	 do i then have to "refresh" the server in anyway for those changes to be enforced?
[11:46:23] 	 03(WONTFIX) WebFont not supported for android < android 4 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33176  +comment (10Siebrand)
[11:46:35] 	 no, you just have to require the extension in LocalSettings.php
[11:47:06] 	 ok, im on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmAccount right now, ill give it a read
[11:48:14] 	 note this is different from Extension:ConfirmEdit#Configuration , but whichever works for you
[11:48:30] 	 yup, noted :)
[12:05:52] 	 03(NEW) Remove asterisks around current translated page language name in  - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34113 trivial; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (federicoleva)
[12:06:00] 	 03(mod) Remove asterisks around current translated page language name in  - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34113  (10Nemo_bis)
[12:08:49] 	 03(mod) if another convert.exe is on the PATH, the webserver blocks installation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33885  +comment (10Liangent)
[12:26:13] 	 how does one delete user accounts created on the wiki>?
[12:27:01] 	 i am on Special:SpecialPages, but cannot see exactly how to
[12:31:36] 	 or even disable..
[12:32:48] 	 03nikerabbit *  10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ (resources/ext.translate.css tag/PageTranslationHooks.php): Bug 34113: handle presentation in CSS as it should be
[12:33:23] 	 03(mod) Remove asterisks around current translated page language name in  - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34113  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
[12:36:10] 	 03(FIXED) Remove asterisks around current translated page language name in  - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34113  (10Niklas Laxström)
[12:40:42] 	 03(mod) Remove asterisks around current translated page language name in  - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34113  +comment (10federicoleva)
[12:45:10] 	 04(REOPENED) Category sorting should be case-sensitive on iswiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30722  +comment (10Bawolff)
[12:47:27] 	 03(NEW) CSSMin function remap not respecting $embed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34114 normal; MediaWiki: Resource Loader; (gilles0181)
[12:48:53] 	 03(mod) ~~~~~ shows (���� (�W����)) on Windows XP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/751   +platformeng (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[12:51:37] 	 03(mod) Styles / CSS are gone after page reload (F5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34112  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[12:51:37] 	 F5: http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/file/view/PHID-FILE-b2j7b3537wesajtof752/github-profile.jpg - github-profile.jpg
[12:53:12] 	 03(mod) Cyrillic characters displayed incorrectly while editing sr.wiki in Google Chrome - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34055  +comment (10hashar)
[12:54:51] 	 03(NEW) Missing formatting on Add Media Wizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34115 normal; mwEmbed: Add media wizard; (mybugs.mail)
[12:58:29] 	 03(mod) Styles / CSS are gone after page reload (F5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34112  +comment (10jukey)
[13:10:36] 	 03(mod) jQuery tablesorter tests intermittent failure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33903  +comment (10hashar)
[13:13:14] 	 03(mod) Styles / CSS are gone after page reload (F5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34112  +comment (10jukey)
[13:13:14] 	 F5: http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/file/view/PHID-FILE-b2j7b3537wesajtof752/github-profile.jpg - github-profile.jpg
[13:13:30] 	 03(mod) jQuery tablesorter tests intermittent failure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33903  +comment (10hashar)
[13:14:18] 	 what is mw-phab 
[13:14:53] <^demon>	 Bot for the test phabricator install I assume.
[13:15:31] 	 why is it serving bunny pictures when someone metions F5
[13:15:53] 	 (F5)
[13:16:00] <^demon>	 Nikerabbit: Not a clue.
[13:16:36] 	 F5 is a Facebook thing
[13:16:38] 	 03(mod) jQuery tablesorter tests intermittent failure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33903  +comment (10federicoleva)
[13:16:40] 	 their conference I think?
[13:16:40] 	 Nikerabbit: I have commented about bug 33903, need to find out which revision cause the issue
[13:16:45] 	 and phabricator comes from Facebook
[13:17:17] <^demon>	 F5 also means refresh, don't want to trigger a bot every time we happen to mention a facebookism ;-)
[13:17:26] 	 03santhosh *  10/trunk/extensions/Translate/utils/TTMServer.php:
[13:17:26] 	 Use multibyte aware levenshtein method. Replace the existing levenshtein_php with a new one.
[13:17:26] 	 Always use our own levenshtein method instead of native levenshtein of php.
[13:17:43] 	 I was wrong, their conference is F8
[13:18:40] 	 ^demon: can you please have a look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/110276
[13:18:48] 	 ^demon: krinkle and I are conflicting there :D
[13:19:35] <^demon>	 Lemme find a coin to flip :p
[13:19:44] 	 ROFL
[13:20:19] 	 anyway, Html::namespaceSelector() got some nice default (you know, the "convention over configuration" paradigm
[13:21:09] 	 somehow Krinkle configure the convention and propose a solution which would be to remove the default entirely and rely on explicit configuration
[13:21:10] 	 hashar: you got my answer re your ssh key & committing, right?
[13:21:19] 	 so I think I have missed a point somewhere :-(
[13:21:22] 	 hashar: if I clear my IE cache and load that page, I get lots of test failures the first time
[13:21:31] 	 on second refresh the all pass again
[13:21:32] 	 sumanah: haven't read my mails yet. Will look :)
[13:21:42] 	 hashar: :-)
[13:22:23] 	 hashar: it's happening consistently on chrome with two different operating systems
[13:22:29] 	 Nikerabbit: so that is probably not browser related and seems to come from MediaWiki software.  Can you try a previous revision.
[13:22:43] 	 define previous revision
[13:23:06] 	 a previous mediawiki version
[13:23:10] 	 ie r109000
[13:23:16] 	 instead of whatever trunk is at currently
[13:23:31] 	 you could  "svn up -r 105000" and see if that still happens
[13:24:01] 	 then proceed by dichotomy to find out which revision is the culprit 
[13:25:52] 	 03(mod) Image page provides links to image resolutions greater than those supported by image scalars - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34041   +platformeng; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[13:25:55] 	 hashar: it seems to go away with wgResourceLoaderExperimentalAsyncLoading = false
[13:26:00] 	 Hi - I have a problem with Short URLS. Using the first version on http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Short_URL which recommends editing httpd.conf, all works well except? the links such as Search and History point to /w/index.php?etc instead of /wiki/etc
[13:26:08] 	 Nikerabbit: hoooooo
[13:26:12] 	 but IE still fails some mediawiki.Title tets on first load
[13:26:24] 	 that might be a different issue
[13:26:39] 	 you might want to report a bug for wgResourceLoaderExperimentalAsyncLoading
[13:26:53] 	 or just rename the title of bug 33903
[13:26:59] 	 yes
[13:27:38] 	 also, please change the component in bugzilla to MediaWiki > Resource Loader  :-)
[13:27:43] 	 hi tlembke 
[13:28:09] 	 Hi sumanah
[13:28:55] 	 Can you help me with a Short URLs issue?
[13:29:14] 	 tlembke: so, you have read https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL 'Not all URLs are rewritten'
[13:29:37] 	 tlembke: you saw that? in the "advantages" list?
[13:30:34] 	 New code comment: ^demon; Might be worth throwing an IF EXISTS on the DROP INDEX, but otherwise looks ok.; 
[13:31:22] 	 Yes. Thanks. But the browser when following the link says "The requested URL /w/index.php was not found on this server".
[13:31:51] 	 huh! ok, that's beyond my knowledge/skill, tlembke 
[13:32:04] 	 New code comment: ^demon; Turns out DROP INDEX doesn't do an IF EXISTS, *sigh*; 
[13:32:15] 	 ^demon: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/tag/chad-flip-a-coin-please
[13:32:17] 	 :D
[13:32:49] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Could do it conditionally. It's only a problem if the script is terminated mid-way.; 
[13:33:09] 	 Thanks sumanah.
[13:33:32] 	 tlembke: hope someone else here can help you, or on mediawiki-l
[13:33:34] 	 !lists | tlembke 
[13:33:34] 	 tlembke: mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details.
[13:33:37] <^demon>	 hashar: We could make it more generic, "flip-a-coin" :p
[13:35:33] 	 Thanks mw-bot. I'll go there.
[13:36:05] 	 !iamabot
[13:36:05] 	 I don't know anything about "iamabot".
[13:36:34] 	 !iamabot is Hello! I am not really an human, I am merely a robot controlled by someone else. Please excuse my ignorance. <3
[13:36:34] 	 Successfully added keyword: iamabot
[13:37:05] 	 tlembke: I was the person who caused the bot to tell you of the lists. :-)
[13:40:07] <^demon>	 hashar: There's also !botnoob :)
[13:40:33] 	 :D
[13:40:52] 	 ^demon: have you read my request to get an additional ssh key on svn.wm.org ?
[13:41:10] 	 OTRS 2012013110003011 in "commit access request" queue
[13:41:28] <^demon>	 I did and I left a note on it. I thought sumanah responded to you.
[13:41:34] 	 yeah
[13:41:36] 	 I did
[13:41:53] 	 so no I am answering to you directly. I need the ssh key cause the fenari working copy use a svn+ssh:// URL scheme
[13:42:04] 	 so it request me a password for user hashar:  which … I don't have :)
[13:42:20] 	 and it does not recognize my cluster ssh key since the .pub part is not deployed on svn
[13:42:24] <^demon>	 Why on earth is the fenari copy using svn+ssh://?
[13:42:50] 	 let us commit live hack form fenari
[13:43:00] <^demon>	 :\
[13:43:16] 	 Hello,  Im attempting to roll up the p-navigation links into a drop down menu instead of listing everything LTR
[13:43:20] 	 at least they are committed :-D :-D
[13:43:28] <^demon>	 hashar: I'll /msg you
[13:43:34] 	 ok thx
[13:43:38] 	 has anyone done this before?
[13:43:45] 	 want me to reply so we have a trace in OTRS?
[13:45:37] 	 rather the p-personal links
[13:54:48] 	 sumanah: thanks, its all fixed and working now
[13:54:55] 	 yaay!
[13:58:01] 	 sumanah: I have a new contractor we should set up for svn access.. should I send you an email? and if so, what do I include in it?
[13:58:18] 	 (also, happy February, it was snowing when I woke up :-))
[13:58:20] 	 apergos: hi!
[13:58:22] 	 will pm
[13:58:33] 	 happy Feb to you as well!
[13:58:52] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/actions/ (EPEditAction.php EditCourseAction.php ViewCourseAction.php): fix course edit issue
[13:59:00] 	 03(mod) jQuery tablesorter tests intermittent failure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33903  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[13:59:52] 	 03(NEW) autocomplete on property broken in Version 2.4-alpha revision r110391 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34116 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticForms; (mitchell_neill)
[14:01:30] 	 kevindank: there's a mention of something slightly similar in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gadget_kitchen/Training
[14:04:29] 	 03(mod) Font mapping in Narayam Gujarati - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34056   +i18n; +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[14:05:33] 	 siebrand, santhosh, Nikerabbit, you might have seen my email about i18n tutorial stuff? I'm available now
[14:05:44] 	 sumanah: chad should have updated my commit access request (OTRS: 2012013110003011 )
[14:06:20] 	 hashar: yep
[14:06:38] 	 nothing urgent
[14:06:59] 	 I can rely on our existing deployement bots (Sam & Roan)
[14:08:16] 	 hashar: :/
[14:08:24] 	 hashar: have you ever heard of "bus factor"?
[14:08:57] 	 you are waiting doing nothing and all of a sudden a school bus full of noisy people break the calm time you were enjoying?
[14:09:33] 	 hashar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor
[14:09:41] 	 yeah yeah been reading that
[14:10:28] 	 in big company, you regulary throw buses at your teams to make sure projects do not depends upon key personns
[14:10:31] 	 (sort of)
[14:10:46] 	 anyway, there is looooot and loooot of people being able to deploy.
[14:10:50] 	 How can I give my friend permission to edit the side menu?
[14:10:51] 	 hashar, ^demon, so, just to be crystal clear, I'm adding this new key to the ldap user on formey, right?
[14:10:54] 	 I can even do it, just would be messy :D
[14:11:18] <^demon>	 sumanah: Yep, use `modify-ldap-user`
[14:11:25] <^demon>	 Should be an --addkeys option
[14:11:28] 	 it is
[14:11:35] 	 I'm following the guide on wikitech.wm.o
[14:11:42] 	 I just wanted to make sure I was adding it on the right machine
[14:12:46] <^demon>	 Oh durr, hashar can do it himself from labsconsole
[14:12:53] <^demon>	 I keep forgetting about https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:NovaKey
[14:13:00] 	 that is for labs!!
[14:13:09] <^demon>	 Same ldap.
[14:13:15] 	 seriously?????
[14:13:26] <^demon>	 labs + gerrit + svn all use the same ldap system.
[14:13:37] 	 well, I just did it via ssh to formey
[14:13:42] <^demon>	 That works too :)
[14:13:59] <^demon>	 + jenkins too
[14:14:15] 	 ^demon: add to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Commit_access_requests#Updating.2Freplacing_your_SSH_key ?
[14:15:02] <^demon>	 sumanah: As long as you have a labsconsole user and it's linked to ldap, yeah
[14:15:09] <^demon>	 So with that caveat, sounds fine.
[14:15:31] 	 Works For Me :-)
[14:15:44] 	 How can I let my friend edit the sidebar?
[14:16:02] <^demon>	 alex-: You have to edit "MediaWiki:Sidebar"
[14:16:11] <^demon>	 By default this requires admin rights, so you'd have to give your friend that.
[14:16:24] 	 Can't I do something else?
[14:16:29] 	 To let only him edit that page
[14:16:57] 	 thanks sumanah :)
[14:17:02] <^demon>	 No, we don't support per-page edit permissions. You could give the 'editinterface' permission to a group you want to put him in if you don't want him to have all the admin rights.
[14:17:12] 	 hashar: you are welcome
[14:17:13] <^demon>	 But at the very least he'd have edit rights to all the MediaWiki namespace.
[14:19:50] 	 Okay so i was able to accomplish the drop down using css however I now need to make the Login/Create Account or Logged IN Username appear instead of Personal Tools
[14:20:16] 	 so that if your logged in you hover or click on your Username and it takes you to profile page or drops down the css menu/rest of the p-personal links
[14:20:50] 	 03(mod) Styles / CSS are gone after page reload (F5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34112  +comment (10hashar)
[14:20:50] 	 F5: http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/file/view/PHID-FILE-b2j7b3537wesajtof752/github-profile.jpg - github-profile.jpg
[14:21:10] 	 Styles / CSS are gone after page reload (F5)
[14:21:16] 	 I don't want him to have too much power
[14:21:18] 	 but to edit some pages
[14:21:58] 	 !access | alex- 
[14:21:59] 	 alex-: For information on customizing user access, see . For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see .
[14:22:45] 	 03maxsem *  10/trunk/extensions/FeaturedFeeds/ (3 files): *temporary* revert of r110207 and r110271, will recommit with my fixes later
[14:22:49] 	 sumanah: those pages are only from preventing access and with groups
[14:22:51] 	 not allowing to users
[14:23:23] <^demon>	 Well you could make a group and only put a single user in it, that's not a problem. The point is that we don't support per-page edit permissions, just per-namespace.
[14:23:40] 	 MaxSem: can't you fix it directly?
[14:23:50] 	 ^demon: well, we do, in a way: page protection
[14:23:56] 	 but he basically wants the opposite
[14:24:40] <^demon>	 Daniel_WMDE_: Right. I suppose you could achieve the same by protecting all mw-namespace pages except the sidebar, but it seems overkill.
[14:24:46] 	 liangent, I tried to poke you yesterday for some comments, but you were inavailable. now, I need to prepare for deployment of fixes
[14:25:58] 	 What's the difference between beheerder and bureaucraat?
[14:27:05] 	 alex-: A sysop (beheerder) can delete pages, block people, and do other administrative things
[14:27:37] 	 and what about a bureacrat?
[14:27:39] 	 A bureaucrat can promote other users to sysop (or put them in other groups)
[14:28:17] 	 Bureaucrats usually don't have the right to delete/block/protect/etc., but most bcrats are sysops (and if they're not, they can usually promote themselves :) )
[14:28:20] 	 alex-: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Sysops_and_permissions
[14:28:36] 	 I want someone which can edit the sidebar
[14:28:38] 	 and things
[14:28:41] 	 should that be bureaucrat?
[14:30:03] <^demon>	 alex-: If you're wanting a group just to edit the MediaWiki namespace, you could add something like $wgGroupPermissions['mynewgroup']['editinterface'] = true; to your LocalSettings.
[14:30:36] 	 alex-: sysops can edit the sidebar too
[14:30:58] 	 Shall I give him bureaucrat or sysop?
[14:31:14] 	 He must be the lowest rank
[14:31:58] <^demon>	 The groups aren't ranked. Bureaucrats can only change the groups of other users.
[14:32:10] 	 ok
[14:32:16] 	 ehm how do i create a new group/
[14:32:27] <^demon>	 Just add the line to your LocalSettings like I suggested above.
[14:33:11] 	 sigh http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/p4sve/wikipedia_chooses_lua_as_its_new_templatemacro/
[14:33:29] 	 yes, but you said
[14:33:31] 	 mynewgroup
[14:33:35] 	 will it create immediatly then?
[14:33:38] <^demon>	 Yes.
[14:33:40] 	 nice
[14:33:42] <^demon>	 You can call that anything.
[14:34:05] <^demon>	 You could call it "gobbledygook" if you wanted.
[14:36:31] 	 sumanah: They're bitchy but they're not very wrong, you know
[14:36:42] 	 Our template code is pretty awful
[14:36:50] 	 RoanKattouw: there are wrong bits in the comments that have nothing to do with Lua
[14:36:59] 	 RoanKattouw: like about the blackout
[14:37:03] 	 true
[14:37:05] 	 Oh?
[14:37:09] 	 thanks ^demon 
[14:37:10] 	 I hadn't reached that part yet, looking
[14:38:48] <^demon>	 Does reddit let you post as an anonymous coward?
[14:38:53] 	 nope
[14:39:01] 	 pseudonymous works though
[14:39:14] 	 blocks tor?
[14:39:21] 	 Of course there's also someone assuming that 1) people will be /forced/ to write templates in Lua (not true) and 2) that that will be in 1.19 (we wish)
[14:39:28] <^demon>	 Meh, can't be bothered to sign up.
[14:40:24] 	 ^demon: you can create throwaway accounts that do not even require an email
[14:40:37] 	 btw, is reddit popular / well known in USA?
[14:40:54] 	 Yeah, I've been an anonymous lurker on Reddit for about as long as it has existed, and if I ever signed up it was to promote my April Fool's joke last year.
[14:40:59] 	 hashar: I think so.
[14:41:15] 	 I have been lurking at it for ages
[14:41:29] 	 and this week I wondered if it was that much used :D
[14:41:35] <^demon>	 I see lots of students on campus on reddit.
[14:41:39] 	 it always looked like an underground website to me
[14:41:48] <^demon>	 But I don't use the site unless someone links me to it.
[14:42:03] * sumanah  looks at http://toolserver.org/~robla/crstats/
[14:42:18] 	 I read the hotlinks daily
[14:42:23] 	 and the weekly top on sunday 
[14:43:25] 	 we are currently at our lowest # of unreviewed trunk/phase3 revisions since Feb of 2010
[14:44:16] <^demon>	 We'd catch up if people would stop committing ;-)
[14:44:59] 	 just revert them
[14:45:18] <^demon>	 We could just revert back to r100k or so.
[14:45:29] <^demon>	 What's ~10k lost revisions between friends?
[14:46:35] 	 I'm gonna do some CR tomorrow
[14:46:40] 	 Looking at https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?path=%2Ftrunk%2Fphase3%2F&title=Special%3ACode%2FMediaWiki -- so, Aaron, Tim, Sam, iAlex, Timo, Antoine, Jeroen, Max, Chad...
[14:46:42] 	 Long live 20%
[14:46:53] 	 (Was gonna do it today, but lots of personal stuff came up)
[14:48:06] <^demon>	 I was gonna do another sprint on Friday like last week.
[14:49:01] 	 I'd join you except I'll be on a train on Friday
[14:50:23] 	 RoanKattouw: btw are you waiting for anything from me?
[14:50:25] 	 03maxsem *  10/trunk/extensions/FeaturedFeeds/ (FeaturedFeeds.body.php FeaturedFeeds.i18n.php): Revert r110232 per objections from i18n people
[14:50:37] 	 sumanah: No, what gave you that idea?
[14:50:46] 	 Or are you just randomly asking?
[14:50:54] 	 RoanKattouw: I think it is just echoes from the hackathon :)
[14:51:13] 	 RoanKattouw: I'm, like, not used to being in a position where I have discharged all my obligations
[14:51:15] 	 or something
[14:51:24] 	 nm
[14:51:35] 	 heh
[14:51:49] 	 oh right, I need to get Greg Varnum to work with y'all on a date for that resourceloader IRC workshop
[14:52:16] 	 and RoanKattouw, I think you are the best-placed person to add a ResourceLoader status for https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_report/2012/January#MediaWiki_infrastructure
[14:52:27] 	 Yes, I should
[14:52:43] 	 RoanKattouw: jeroen converted some wfMsg() to wfMsgHtml()  on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/110281 . Any reason you tagged yourself on it?
[14:53:07] 	 Yes, we triaged that last night
[14:53:14] 	 I was gonna CR it today on my 20% day
[14:53:22] 	 which has now been moved to tomorrow
[14:53:31] 	 cause to me it looks fine :-)
[14:53:35] 	 03liangent *  10/trunk/extensions/FeaturedFeeds/FeaturedFeeds.i18n.php: Use # in all comments
[14:53:55] 	 14(INVALID) Font mapping in Narayam Gujarati - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34056  +comment (10Siebrand)
[14:54:04] 	 New code comment: Hashar; Looks fine to me. None of those messages use HTML anyway.; 
[14:54:08] 	 just marked it as inspected
[14:54:41] 	 03(mod) jQuery tablesorter tests intermittent failure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33903  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
[14:55:22] 	 04(REOPENED) Font mapping in Narayam Gujarati - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34056  +comment (10Siebrand)
[14:56:47] 	 03(mod) Update key mapping in Narayam Gujarati transliteration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34056  summary (10Siebrand)
[14:57:20] 	 03(mod) Update key mapping in Narayam Gujarati transliteration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34056  (10Siebrand)
[14:58:15] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Update key mapping in Narayam Gujarati transliteration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34056  (10Santhosh Thottingal)
[14:59:06] 	 03(mod) Missing formatting on Add Media Wizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34115  +comment (10dale)
[14:59:13] 	 03(mod) Please install Narayam for Gujarati wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33423  (10Santhosh Thottingal)
[14:59:18] 	 03(mod) Update key mapping in Narayam Gujarati transliteration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34056  (10Santhosh Thottingal)
[14:59:57] 	 03(mod) Missing formatting on Add Media Wizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34115  +comment (10dale)
[15:03:37] 	 I seem to have parser tests failing locally..
[15:05:05] 	 7 of them..
[15:05:06] 	 hashar, hexmode ^
[15:05:16] 	 Reedy, details?
[15:05:22] <^demon>	 Running make parser locally.
[15:05:42] 	 DO NOT INVOLVE ME IN PARSER RELATED STUFF!!!
[15:05:49] 	 lol
[15:05:51] 	 it already caused me mental illness years ago
[15:06:01] * hexmode  drags hashar into the padded parser room
[15:06:10] 	 NOOOOOOO NOOOOO
[15:06:18] <^demon>	 hashar: So *you* were the one Tim alluded to about being feared for dead :p
[15:06:32] 	 03maxsem *  10/trunk/extensions/FeaturedFeeds/ (FeaturedFeeds.i18n.php FeaturedFeedsWMF.php): Featured texts feed for Wikisource. Modified patch by thomaspt from bug 34047.
[15:06:35] 	 please nooo moore braceSubstitution()
[15:08:21] 	 pastebin.com/B99qvegU
[15:08:23] * MaxSem  chains hashar to recursiveTagParse() and prepares his preprocessToXml()
[15:08:34] <^demon>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13227#c1 is one of my favorite comments on BZ.
[15:10:06] 	 Reedy, --quiet
[15:10:17] 	 and --quick, too
[15:10:26] 	 and please prefix your URL with a scheme such as  gopher://
[15:10:33] 	 or we don't know which protocol to use
[15:10:38] <^demon>	 make parser showed no failures for me.
[15:10:59] * hashar  did not launch parser tests and rely on mw-jenkinsbot bots screaming
[15:11:31] 	 03gregchiasson *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ArticleFeedbackv5.i18n.php: AFT5: Add message documentation, per comments on r110450.
[15:12:26] 	 hashar, so you prefer to be yelled at instead of testing before committing?
[15:12:40] 	 http://pastebin.com/Atts2TWZ
[15:12:44] 	 03(mod) Image page provides links to image resolutions greater than those supported by image scalars - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34041  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[15:12:54] 	 rake svn::commit
[15:13:14] 	 Reedy: oooh you are using the new HTTP protocol. Wonderful :-D
[15:13:16] 	 03(FIXED) Add Featured Text for Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34047  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[15:13:29] <^demon>	 hashar: He's probably using that new-fangled 1.1
[15:13:32] 	 copying from a browser that doesn't display http:// on a different laptop ;)
[15:13:35] 	 Reedy: is you repo clean?
[15:13:43] 	 Reedy: could it be some issue with your interwiki cache / table ?
[15:14:07] 	 and you want to show the diff :-D
[15:15:18] 	 reedy: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33989 -- you've done a lot of research on this bug.  But I think you've got enough work already.  Any idea who could work on it?
[15:15:31] * hexmode  wants to assign it to someone
[15:16:08] 	 hexmode, Daniel_WMDE_ wrote it, but doesn't mean he's got the time to fix it..
[15:16:28] 	 03(mod) New FileBackend code breaks WebStore extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34083  +comment (10Bawolff)
[15:16:38] 	 Reedy: k, but Daniel_WMDE_ may have a suggestion for who can :)
[15:17:47] 	 mw-jenkinsbot: help
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[15:17:55] * Reedy  smacks hashar
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[15:18:03] 	 hashar, yup, so if i use the WMF interwiki cache it breaks the parser tests
[15:18:04] 	 Gj
[15:18:06] <^demon>	 You can /msg the bot too
[15:18:18] 	 ^demon: I tried :/
[15:18:22] 	 did not want to talk to me
[15:18:40] 	 03(mod) Proofread extension JS loading fully broken on 1.19 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33873  +comment (10mah)
[15:18:42] 	 03gregchiasson *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ (2 files in 2 dirs): AFT5: tweaks from Fabrice. Move the 'BETA' label to a more prominant position, and change the wording in two places.
[15:18:51] 	 Is gzip built into mediawiki? I see $wgUseGzip and i set it to true but do i need to do anything else?  YSlow! is still showing that its not there
[15:18:52] <^demon>	 hashar: Even in /msg's you still have to prefix it with mw-jenkinsbot
[15:19:09] <^demon>	 kevindank: Well apache has to have it.
[15:19:29] 	 im on a xampp install and apache is installed
[15:19:41] <^demon>	 Well check if mod_gzip is installed.
[15:19:48] 	 ^demon: I will have to learn java to fix that up :D
[15:19:58] 	 I don't even know how to "compile" a .java file
[15:20:00] 	 do i need to set path to gzip in localsettings?
[15:20:15] 	 mw-jenkinsbot, botsnack sushi
[15:20:15] 	 MaxSem you may not issue bot commands in this chat!
[15:20:23] <^demon>	 hashar: java's easy. just make a class for each function
[15:20:26] 	 I have disabled it
[15:20:30] <^demon>	 kevindank: No.
[15:20:39] 	 ^demon: lol
[15:20:42] <^demon>	 hashar: You disabled botsnack?
[15:20:53] 	 http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/tests/parser/parserTest.inc?view=annotate#l808
[15:21:04] 	 Shouldn't iw_local be 1? :/
[15:21:19] 	 ^demon: yup so you are forced to use /msg 
[15:21:24] 	 03(mod) Mobile version of Wikipedia requires JavaScript to view sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34025  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[15:21:37] <^demon>	 :(
[15:22:32] 	 no more snack for ya chad!
[15:23:57] 	 Reedy: on most wiki, wikipedia: interwiki is not local
[15:24:24] 	 But it sets other wikipedia projects as local
[15:24:31] 	 i suppose it doesn't matter much
[15:33:41] 	 do we have any noob / user level  documentation for filerepo
[15:33:45] 	 with some examples?
[15:34:03] 	 03(mod) Infinite loop in API blocklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34029  +comment (10mah)
[15:34:08] <^demon>	 hashar: Nope, filerepo's basically in the heads of the people who wrote it.
[15:34:14] <^demon>	 Tim + me + Aaron.
[15:34:19] 	 AHHHH
[15:34:25] 	 luckily there is one in my timezone
[15:34:35] 	 me: do you have any doc for filerepo  ^^^^
[15:35:22] * hashar  starts by https://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/group__FileRepo.html
[15:35:58] <^demon>	 doxygen should be fairly decent for filerepo.
[15:36:00] 	 03(mod) if another convert.exe is on the PATH, the webserver blocks installation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33885  +comment (10drorpockard)
[15:36:03] <^demon>	 Anyway, gotta run for a bit.
[15:36:07] 	 03amire80 *  10/trunk/phase3/languages/classes/LanguageHe.php: Integer comparison in Hebrew plural forms.
[15:37:44] 	 03amire80 *  10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Fixed plural rules for Romanian / Moldovan according to CLDR. Added tests for Romanian and fixed tests for Moldovan.
[15:40:15] 	 Project MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit build #1140: FAILURE in 2 min 52 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit/1140/
[15:40:33] 	 Project MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit build #6688: FAILURE in 3 min 45 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit/6688/
[15:41:09] 	 what is amire nickname on IRC?
[15:43:36] 	 aharoni: looks like you have some broken tests
[15:43:41] 	 aharoni: jenkins is screaming
[15:43:51] 	 brb
[15:44:33] 	 Project MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit build #1141: STILL FAILING in 2 min 45 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit/1141/
[15:44:36] 	 03maxsem *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/GlobalFunctions.php: HTML 2???
[15:45:17] 	 Project MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit build #6689: STILL FAILING in 3 min 30 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit/6689/
[15:46:59] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance/dumpInterwiki.php:
[15:46:59] 	 Followup r110454, quieten script by setting default values for non set iw_url/iw_local
[15:46:59] 	 Needs some further work to work out why it is not set
[15:48:16] 	 03ialex *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (OutputPage.php Setup.php debug/Debug.php): Recommit r109062 (Only run some MWDebug code when really needed) but leaving the addition of ResourceLoader module inside the MWDebug class this time
[15:49:19] 	 03maxsem *  10/trunk/extensions/FeaturedFeeds/ApiFeaturedFeeds.php: Since feed formats don't have a way to specify error conditions anyway, simply reset invalid language codes to content langauge, which is consistent with index.php behaviour
[15:49:40] 	 Project MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit build #1142: STILL FAILING in 2 min 52 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit/1142/
[15:50:14] 	 Project MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit build #6690: STILL FAILING in 3 min 26 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit/6690/
[15:50:50] 	 New code comment: ^demon; Broke unit tests, see http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit/6688/; 
[15:50:53] 	 03(mod) Infinite loop in API blocklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34029  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[15:51:51] 	 03(mod) Infinite loop in API blocklist - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34029  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[15:51:58] 	 03(NEW) maintenance/userOptions.php lacks the --conf switch to allow to - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34117 normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (mail)
[15:52:10] 	 03(mod) maintenance/userOptions.php lacks the --conf switch to allow to - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34117  (10T. Gries)
[15:52:26] 	 03(mod) Protecting action doesn't update page links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34039  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[15:52:26] 	 03reedy *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/maintenance/dumpInterwiki.php: Merge quietening part of r110487
[15:53:56] 	 03(mod) Image page provides links to image resolutions greater than those supported by image scalars - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34041  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[15:54:01] 	 03ialex *  10/trunk/phase3/tests/phpunit/includes/ArticleTablesTest.php:
[15:54:01] 	 * Use WikiPage instead of Article
[15:54:01] 	 * Use a local User object passed to WikiPage::doEdit() instead of overriding $wgUser
[15:54:03] 	 03amire80 *  10/trunk/phase3/languages/classes/LanguageHe.php: Fixes r110484.
[15:54:13] 	 03(mod) Make maintenance/userOptions.php subclass Maintenance - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34117  summary; +comment (10Chad H.)
[15:54:35] 	 Project MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit build #1143: STILL FAILING in 2 min 48 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit/1143/
[15:55:18] 	 Project MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit build #6691: STILL FAILING in 3 min 31 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit/6691/
[15:55:43] 	 03(mod) Image page provides links to image resolutions greater than those supported by image scalars - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34041  +comment (10Chad H.)
[15:58:47] 	 Yippie, build fixed!
[15:58:47] 	 Project MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit build #6692: FIXED in 3 min 8 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit/6692/
[15:59:15] 	 Yippie, build fixed!
[15:59:15] 	 Project MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit build #1144: FIXED in 2 min 24 sec: http://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit/1144/
[15:59:30] 	 03amire80 *  10/trunk/phase3/tests/phpunit/languages/LanguageSrTest.php: Added tests for plural, same as Russian.
[16:00:36] 	 Hi, is were a way to force a notification on every edit to watching users no matter if he or she visited the page after the notification?
[16:01:06] 	 oh all these typos
[16:02:31] 	 kghbln: Do you mean http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Watchlist
[16:03:11] 	 03mark *  10/trunk/debs/wikimedia-task-squid/: This package is no longer necessary; everything is now handled by Puppet
[16:03:19] 	 New code comment: ^demon; Shouldn't this be a wrapper around the HttpError exception anyway?; 
[16:03:47] 	 yeah
[16:04:04] 	 New code comment: ^demon; Which also needs a doctype update :p; 
[16:04:24] 	 03(mod) "Hide bots" on Special:ActiveUsers doesn't take global rights in account - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34050  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:05:39] 	 One gets only a notification of the first edit. You have to visit the page to get a new notification. Is there a way to get further notification without having to visit the page?
[16:06:41] 	 I looked for some extension but I have not found one providing such a task
[16:07:11] 	 kghbln: Atom or RSS feed gives info on all edits.
[16:07:13] 	 03(mod) Puppet groups added to All Projects don't display - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34052  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:08:40] 	 kghbln: The Manual pages I gave you claims there is a user preferense to specify "whether to limit to the most recent edit to a page, or expand to show all relevant changes" 
[16:12:38] 	 I does but in case you follow all links you get back to this very page without learning about this magic. However, your post before remindet me about the watchlist token you may use to get a feed for the pages you are watching.
[16:16:12] 	 03(mod) ApiQueryParseTree doesn't work when XML format is requested - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34058  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:18:11] 	 Thank you tale for your help. Have a nice day!
[16:19:58] 	 03(mod) Make maintenance/userOptions.php subclass Maintenance - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34117  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:19:59] 	 03(mod) Migrate the rest of the maintenance scripts to subclass maintenance - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25782  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:20:48] 	 03(mod) class HTTP::getAsFile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27391  summary (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:24:25] 	 03(mod) Improved IE check for incorrect cache extension in PATH_INFO or QUERY_STRING - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34060  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:24:53] 	 03(mod) AFT5 Feedback Page 'Show more posts' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34066  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:25:05] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - Use 'day', 'hour' and 'min.' but not 'sec.' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34074  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:25:12] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - Put the date first, then the time - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34075  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:27:04] 	 03(mod) New FileBackend code breaks WebStore extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34083  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:27:51] 	 03(mod) [QUnit] Move configuration for CompletenessTest from tests/qunit/data/testrunner.js to the modules - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34092  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:30:02] 	 03(mod) [QUnit] Tablesorter tests fail in non-English installations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34093  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:30:21] 	 03(mod) Ctrl+Home / Ctrl+End don't navigate the cursor to the beginning/end of the document - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34095  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:30:35] 	 03(mod) Hitting enter on an empty list item should end the list - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34096  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:30:48] 	 03gwicke *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/parser/ (11 files):
[16:30:49] 	 Change token format to plain strings for text tokens, and specific objects for
[16:30:49] 	 other tokens. This is only the first half of the conversion. The next step is
[16:30:49] 	 to drop the type attribute on most tokens and match on the constructor in the
[16:30:49] 	 token transform machinery.
[16:33:05] 	 03(mod) Special:FeedbackDashboard "hide" function does not suppress the log entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34097  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:33:19] 	 03(mod) Schema changes for 1.19 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34104  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:33:48] 	 03(mod) Instances should use libnss-ldapd rather than libnss-ldap - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34105  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:34:43] 	 03ialex *  10/trunk/tools/planet/it/config.ini: Updated URL per user request
[16:35:19] 	 03(mod) printfooter "Retrieved from" url isn't protocol relative - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34107  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:35:19] 	 03(mod) Support for protocol-relative URLs (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/20342  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:38:25] 	 03(FIXED) activating WikiLove for fa.wiktionary and fa.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33541  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:40:41] 	 14(INVALID) Block creation of js and css subpages for IP and non-registered usernames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34108  normal->15enhancement; +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:41:28] 	 03(mod) Set $wgBabelUseUserLanguage=true for Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32726  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:41:28] 	 03(mod) MediaWiki 1.19 post WMF deployment actions (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33996  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:44:32] 	 03(mod) "New messages" on www.mediawiki.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34111  normal->15enhancement (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:45:51] 	 14(DUP) Styles / CSS are gone after page reload (F5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34112  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:45:51] 	 03(mod) Errors displaying error page with FastCGI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12124  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:45:52] 	 F5: http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/file/view/PHID-FILE-b2j7b3537wesajtof752/github-profile.jpg - github-profile.jpg
[16:48:27] 	 03(mod) CSSMin function remap not respecting $embed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34114   +need-review +patch (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:50:01] 	 03ialex *  10/trunk/tools/planet/ (fr/config.ini it/config.ini): Added one blog and updated the name of another per request on meta
[16:50:25] 	 03(mod) Missing formatting on Add Media Wizard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34115  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:51:08] 	 03(mod) Special:FeedbackDashboard "hide" function does not suppress the log entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34097  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:51:36] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (14 files in 5 dirs): work on admbassador manegement
[16:53:19] 	 rmoen: bsitu1: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34097 -- I'd like to assign this MoodBar bug to one of you, who is better
[16:54:44] 	 03(mod) CSSMin function remap not respecting $embed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34114  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:56:09] 	 03(NEW) Hover state for Flagged as Abuse - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34118 major; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (hfung)
[16:59:04] 	 03(NEW) Marked as helpful counter seems off - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34119 major; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (hfung)
[17:02:44] 	 03gwicke *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/tests/parser/parserTests.js: Add --debug and --trace options to parserTests as well.
[17:03:21] 	 03gwicke *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/parser/ (4 files):
[17:03:21] 	 Push token format conversion a bit further along, and add defines that were
[17:03:21] 	 missing in last commit.
[17:03:24] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/includes/EPRevision.php: load defaults so that old revs dont break after fields get added
[17:04:04] 	 03gregchiasson *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/api/ApiViewFeedbackArticleFeedbackv5.php: AFT5: Instead of linking to a broken user page, go to their contribs (for now, but this could be a talk page or something else, down the road - the important thing is that it not go to an 'edit user page' page).
[17:05:20] 	 03hashar *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/resourceloader/ResourceLoaderFileModule.php:
[17:05:20] 	 fix @example in ResourceLoaderFileModule
[17:05:20] 	 Doxygen @example is meant to include another file content. To render
[17:05:20] 	 an example you need to use a named paragraph and then a block of code.
[17:07:52] 	 03jeroendedauw *  10/trunk/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/BibTeX/SRF_BibTeX.php: patch from bug 34106 by MWJames
[17:08:23] 	 03(FIXED) [SRF] 1.7; Undefined offset: 0 in SRF_BibTeX.php on line 275 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34106  +comment (10Jeroen De Dauw)
[17:14:35] 	 03(mod) [Enhancement] Interactive Graphs using JavaScript InfoVis Toolkit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32877  +comment (10Alex Shapovalov)
[17:15:59] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance/dumpInterwiki.php: Fix is_url typo
[17:16:03] 	 03(mod) [Enhancement] Interactive Graphs using JavaScript InfoVis Toolkit - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32877  +comment (10Alex Shapovalov)
[17:18:01] 	 Hallo. Did anyone ever think about doing drag-and-drop file uploads, like the file attachment in GMail?
[17:23:04] 	 New code comment: GWicke; The JSON WikiDom format is about to be removed in favor of a plain HTML DOM, which can be serialized; 
[17:25:31] 	 aharoni: UW does drag-n-drop iirc
[17:28:04] 	 New code comment: Catrope;  \ - . Linker::link( Title::newFromText( $link ), $name ) \ + . Linker::link( $title, $name ) \ 
[17:40:48] 	 03(mod) Missing formatting on Add Media Wizard when dialogs are disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34115  (10mybugs.mail)
[17:47:22] 	 04(REOPENED) Upload Wizard crashes Safari when using long description texts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33607  +comment (10Maury Markowitz)
[17:51:19] 	 New code comment: Catrope; This looks good in terms of DB load, but I should point out that the continue feature won't work pro; 
[17:53:36] 	 03(mod) Useless/misleading column "description" in [[Special:ListFiles]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33947  +comment (10Maury Markowitz)
[17:54:32] 	 03(mod) New FileBackend code breaks WebStore extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34083  +comment (10aschulz4587)
[17:59:07] 	 omg hexmode, i didn't even notice. it's great!
[17:59:25] 	  aharoni: glad I could help :)
[17:59:56] 	 But it's not clear from the UI that you can drag files there. It looks like a button and it says "Select a media file to donate".
[18:00:09] 	 03(mod) Hover state for Flagged as Abuse - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34118  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:00:23] 	 03(mod) Marked as helpful counter seems off - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34119  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:00:26] 	 aharoni, you've got commit access
[18:00:29] 	 fix it :p
[18:00:59] 	 go figure, maybe there are years of UX research behind this wording.
[18:01:14] 	 and legal implications, too.
[18:01:34] 	 aharoni: stop over thinking it, commit your fix
[18:01:34] 	 New code comment: Gregchiasson; Yeah, I'd sort of realized that doing the continue like that might be a problem, for pretty much tha; 
[18:02:49] 	 New code comment: Gregchiasson; $name is being fed through htmlspecialchars() already. Is there additional escaping that should be d; 
[18:05:32] 	 03(mod) Special:FeedbackDashboard "hide" function does not suppress the log entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34097  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[18:10:12] 	 03amire80 *  10/trunk/extensions/UploadWizard/UploadWizard.i18n.php: Changing the message on the big button so it will be clear that it's possible to drag and drop multiple files.
[18:13:21] 	 03(mod) Please lock *.labs.wikimedia.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33644  +comment (10erik)
[18:14:44] 	 03gregchiasson *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/SpecialArticleFeedbackv5.php: AFT5: Immediately bail if no param is given. Fixes ugly error when going to '.../Special:ArticleFeedbackv5/'
[18:15:59] 	 03(mod) Styles / CSS are gone after page reload (F5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34112  +comment (10jukey)
[18:16:00] 	 F5: http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/file/view/PHID-FILE-b2j7b3537wesajtof752/github-profile.jpg - github-profile.jpg
[18:16:34] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; Sounds fine to me.; 
[18:17:38] 	 03(mod) Enable input methods on all user languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33633  +comment (10srik.lak)
[18:25:09] 	 binasher: fwded your diagram to the Signpost
[18:26:22] 	 neat, thanks
[18:27:34] 	 03(mod) Errors displaying error page with FastCGI - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12124  +comment (10jukey)
[18:29:12] 	 03(mod) Styles / CSS are gone after page reload (F5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34112  +comment (10jukey)
[18:29:13] 	 F5: http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/file/view/PHID-FILE-b2j7b3537wesajtof752/github-profile.jpg - github-profile.jpg
[18:30:59] 	 03(mod) WikiEditor crashes Internet Explorer due to bad preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33926  +comment (10mediawiki)
[18:35:23] 	 We need global SUL preferences. I just got like 200+ emails for watchlist notification when Pathoschild edited my user page globally.
[18:35:39] 	 I'd have disabled the watchlist preference on the 895 wikis I don't visit very often.
[18:36:05] 	 (and yes I do visit the other 895, by using global aggregated watchlist tool)
[18:36:11] 	 Grr.
[18:37:14] 	 Krinkle: what tool is that?
[18:37:28] 	 It's the most unsafe and unsecured and super slow tool I ever created
[18:37:52] 	 03gwicke *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/parser/ (9 files): Remove type attribute for tag tokens.
[18:37:54] 	 way to sell it!
[18:38:00] 	 self-hosted because it asks username/password
[18:38:47] 	 it queries meta-wiki to know all wikis your sul is local on (which is pretty much all due to auto-creation), and then queries each of them requesting watchlist token and then the actual watchlist
[18:38:57] 	 and displays then in synchronous uniform order
[18:39:12] 	 pretty neat but takes like 30 minutes sometimes, about 2 minutes on a good day
[18:39:59] 	 Krinkle: IIRC Andrew did a global prefs thingy a while back, but it got reverted because there wasn't anyone to review it or something like that...I agree, having global prefs would be very spiffy :)
[18:40:51] 	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14950 per https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_large_bugs
[18:41:06] 	 yeah I know it's on bugzilla
[18:41:20] 	 many ways to do it wrong
[18:41:44] 	 03(NEW) Enable translate extension on Wikimania 2012 wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34120 normal; Wikimedia: Extension setup; (aude.wiki)
[18:41:47] <^demon>	 Just follow the CentralAuth model, what could possibly go wrong? :p
[18:41:51] * Krinkle  sees Reedy is at war with the interwiki map
[18:42:33] 	 \j #latex
[18:43:12] 	 oops. :)
[18:43:30] 	 tr|nn|: you'll get 'em to work on our math bits once you're there, right? :)
[18:43:48] 	 Krinkle, it broke last night
[18:44:31] 	 sumanah: of course, that was my intention ;)
[18:44:33] 	 03(mod) Enable translate extension on Wikimania 2012 wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34120  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[18:44:41] 	 Reedy: I meant the meta page, undo.., undo undo,.. undo undo undo + edit, undo it all and then some edit and then back to all before
[18:45:09] 	 Yeahj
[18:45:24] 	 Adding the extra one makes the script apparently generate some syntax error that PHP bitches about
[18:48:11] 	 ^demon: Could you undelete the web viewers page
[18:48:23] <^demon>	 Must I? What purpose does it serve?
[18:49:34] 	 New code comment: Catrope; D'oh, I'm blind. This is fine.; 
[18:50:19] 	 ^demon: GitWeb may be built in to gerrit but that doesn't preclude the ability for us to setup alternative viewers with labs and put them into production... Some of those do have valid features and advantages over GitWeb.
[18:51:10] <^demon>	 Meh, whatever. Undeleting.
[18:57:27] 	 what's the Best Setup For Mediawiki?
[18:57:32] 	 apache/nginx/etc
[18:57:37] 	 assuming freebsd...
[18:57:43] <^demon>	 Most people use apache.
[18:57:56] <^demon>	 But it'll run on nginx, lighty or IIS.
[18:58:28] 	 which of those is The Best?
[18:58:48] 	 mainly i want something fast & not terribly ram-heavy
[18:59:19] <^demon>	 Well lighttpd is pretty fast, but really apache won't be your memory bottleneck.
[18:59:44] <^demon>	 MediaWiki itself will be the bottleneck, regardless of your webserver.
[19:00:24] 	 i've got it shoved in a random apache instance now, seems awful slow per-mit
[19:00:27] 	 per-hit even
[19:00:35] 	 i figure i skimped on some kinda caching or persistance somewhere
[19:00:47] 	 !performance
[19:00:47] 	  
[19:00:54] 	 doug, see above
[19:01:36] <^demon>	 Well you'll definitely want APC with your php install.
[19:04:04] 	 New code comment: Catrope; Ah, let's not hard-code these? OK for now but let's fix it later. \  \ + $helpTitle = Title::newF; 
[19:05:26] 	 One disadvantage of servers other than Apache we need to fix is that IE6 vulnerability fix. We don't have config for that for any other webserver.
[19:05:36] 	 sumanah++
[19:05:37] 	 thanks
[19:05:41] 	 In fact I've had a hard time figuring out how I could apply that to nginx config.
[19:07:06] 	 03gregchiasson *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/SpecialArticleFeedbackv5.php: AFT5 - Use NS_PROJECT instead of hard-coding project name. Fixes r110445
[19:08:48] 	 for mediawiki.org, to let someone upload a file, I put her in the "editor" group?
[19:09:21] <^demon>	 editor is just for flaggedrevs stuff.
[19:09:32] <^demon>	 To upload you have to be autoconfirmed.
[19:09:37] 	 ahaaaaa
[19:10:36] * sumanah  tells user to confirm things
[19:10:49] <^demon>	 autoconfirmed is 3 days + n edits.
[19:10:49] 	 03(mod) Schema changes for 1.19 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34104  +comment (10afeldman)
[19:10:51] <^demon>	 IIRC.
[19:11:08] <^demon>	 Dunno what we've got it set to for mw.org
[19:12:05] 	 ok, I'll just upload the mockups on her behalf.
[19:15:40] 	 03rmoen *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleCreationWorkflow/ (17 files in 8 dirs): create base extension, hook in front end modules. Commit for transition to Kaldari. Not ready for deployment
[19:18:34] 	 New code comment: Pgehres (WMF); Sure. Apparently there are countries that use the english term "Postcode" for a postal code instead; 
[19:20:06] 	 03raymond *  10/trunk/translatewiki/MediaWiki/mediawiki-defines.txt: r110481: Update ignore messages
[19:31:51] 	 03(mod) Narayam testing on mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32267  (10Srikanth Logic)
[19:31:51] 	 03(mod) Narayam IME on fails to replace English characters on mobile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33243  (10Srikanth Logic)
[19:33:34] 	 03(mod) Upload Wizard crashes Safari when using long description texts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33607  +comment (10mah)
[19:33:42] 	 there's no interwiki 'simple:' on en.wikipedia ??
[19:34:18] 	 Reedy: local interwiki is broken!
[19:34:22] 	 not just simple:
[19:34:28] 	 nl: doesn't work either
[19:34:29] 	 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nl:Test
[19:34:38] 	 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/de:Test
[19:34:39] 	 etc.
[19:35:50] 	 reported in wikimedia-tech
[19:37:04] 	 New code comment: Tbleher; The articleSave() function is missing a return code at the end, leading to the following error when ; 
[19:38:39] 	 Did anybody notice interlanguage links behaving strangely lately?
[19:39:00] 	 04(REOPENED) When I edit a page, the interwiki links show as redlinks. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34109  +comment (10Paine Ellsworth)
[19:39:12] 	 ... ehh, yeah, that.
[19:40:01] 	 i saw it yesterday in en.wp and today in he.wp.
[19:40:05] 	 03catrope *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/: 1.18wmf1: Delete ArticleFeedbackv5 for rebranch
[19:41:05] 	 03catrope *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/: 1.18wmf1: Rebranch ArticleFeedbackv5
[19:41:08] 	 aharoni: >> #wikimedia-tech
[19:42:17] 	 03(mod) When I edit a page, the interwiki links show as redlinks. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34109  major->04CRIT (10Krinkle)
[19:43:11] 	 03(mod) New FileBackend code breaks WebStore extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34083  +comment (10ThomasBleher)
[19:43:21] 	 03(mod) Interwiki map broken globally for local interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34109  summary (10Krinkle)
[19:43:59] 	 03(NEW) Interwiki links are broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34121 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (joona.palaste)
[19:45:32] 	 14(DUP) Interwiki links are broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34121  +comment (10Krinkle)
[19:45:32] 	 03(mod) Interwiki map broken globally for local interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34109  +comment (10Krinkle)
[19:45:40] 	 03(mod) Interwiki map broken globally for local interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34109  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[19:46:04] 	 03(mod) Interwiki links are broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34121  +comment (10Krinkle)
[19:47:26] 	 03(NEW) Seems to be a problem with interwikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34122 normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (jpfagerback)
[19:48:54] 	 14(DUP) Seems to be a problem with interwikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34122  +comment (10Chad H.)
[19:48:56] 	 03(mod) Interwiki map broken globally for local interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34109  +comment (10Chad H.)
[19:49:52] 	 ok, time to attack the git pages on mediawiki.org.
[19:52:01] 	 03(mod) Interwiki map broken globally for local interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34109  +comment (10painius)
[19:52:59] 	 03(mod) Interwiki map broken globally for local interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34109  +comment (10painius)
[19:55:30] 	 03catrope *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/SpecialArticleFeedbackv5.php: Make special page unlisted
[19:56:18] 	 ^demon: from the timeline for git conversion I see "* Agree on implementation strategies regarding remaining development process questions, e.g. how to handle multi-repo commits [IN PROGRESS, December 19]"  Is this now done?
[19:56:47] <^demon>	 Yeah, pretty much afaik.
[19:56:47] 	 03catrope *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ (. SpecialArticleFeedbackv5.php api/ApiArticleFeedbackv5.php): 1.18wmf1: Merge ArticleFeedbackv5 to trunk state to pick up r110514
[19:57:39] 	 and ^demon for "* CI tests && linting get run when a developer chooses to push to the stage between their branch and the mainline branch (see Ideal Workflow Document)" I assume that the "ideal workflow doc" is the diagrams etc you and I looked at today?
[19:57:49] <^demon>	 Yep.
[19:58:22] 	 k
[20:01:01] 	 03(mod) urgent: interwikilinks do not work anymore and appear as redlinks in the page on is.wikt and fo.wikt (and maybe others) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34110  +comment (10snaevar87)
[20:01:27] 	 robla: you might be happy to know that my the end of the day,  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git_conversion and related pages will make sense and be updated!
[20:01:57] 	 xlnt!
[20:02:23] 	 even as I speak it's better than it was 4 hours ago
[20:02:38] 	 robla: for example, the timeline is now basically accurate
[20:02:50] 	 thank you, Chad
[20:03:21] <^demon>	 Thank you. It was a collaborative effort dumping my brain :)
[20:03:39] 	 robla: the plan is: I update these things today. next week, Chad writes an email to wikitech-l with a "here's what's up" sort of heads-up, and we also turn that into a techblog post.
[20:03:41] 	 actually, there may be more to push into March than you have there, considering the 1.19 timeline
[20:03:58] 	 feel free to talk to Chad & shove it now, robla, I'm working on other pages
[20:04:35] 	 did you just tell me to shove it?  :)
[20:05:01] * sumanah  thinks about career-limiting moves
[20:05:22] 	 well, that was ill-worded
[20:05:45] 	 03(mod) Styles / CSS are gone after page reload (F5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34112  +comment (10jukey)
[20:05:45] 	 F5: http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/file/view/PHID-FILE-b2j7b3537wesajtof752/github-profile.jpg - github-profile.jpg
[20:06:50] * robla  takes edit token on that page for a bit
[20:07:03] 	 robla: Oh BTW, I'm moving my 20% day to tomorrow
[20:07:10] 	 Today was eaten by visa paperwork
[20:07:19] 	 Fun fun ^.^
[20:07:27] 	 RoanKattouw: ah, thanks for the heads up.  just this week then?
[20:07:42] 	 Yeah, just a one-off
[20:07:52] 	 RoanKattouw: so, when are you moving? 
[20:08:02] 	 Lcawte: Provisional date is Feb 18
[20:08:10] 	 Ah cool
[20:08:14] 	 Depending on bureaucracy, of course
[20:08:29] 	 But there's so little bureaucracy left that I can think about specific dates now, so that's good
[20:08:30] 	 03(mod) urgent: interwikilinks do not work anymore and appear as redlinks in the page on is.wikt and fo.wikt (and maybe others) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34110  +comment (10Krinkle)
[20:08:32] 	 03(mod) Interwiki map broken globally for local interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34109  +comment (10Krinkle)
[20:12:59] 	 yay specific dates!
[20:13:05] 	 RoanKattouw: I'm glad for you!
[20:13:11] 	 03(mod) Interwiki map broken globally for local interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34109  +comment (10joona.palaste)
[20:13:45] 	 hexmode: you're corralling all these interwiki bugs and telling them that ops is on it, right?
[20:14:09] <^demon>	 We've just been duping it to 34109.
[20:14:11] 	 it's fixed but there are cache issues for the pages saved when it was broken
[20:14:36] 	 03(mod) Interwiki map broken globally for local interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34109  +comment (10krinklemail)
[20:14:42] 	 03(FIXED) Interwiki map broken globally for local interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34109  (10Krinkle)
[20:15:29] 	 sumanah: Thanks! Unconfirmed of course but it's quite unlikely I'll miss that date
[20:15:45] 	 But not can-afford-to-buy-nonrefundable-tickets unlikely
[20:15:50] 	 03(mod) Interwiki map broken globally for local interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34109  +comment (10Krinkle)
[20:16:28] 	 03reedy *  10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/maintenance/dumpInterwiki.php: Apparently null is better than 0 (or rather, doesn't break the world)
[20:17:32] 	 03(mod) Styles / CSS are gone after page reload (F5) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34112  +comment (10Krinkle)
[20:17:33] 	 F5: http://phabricator.wmflabs.org/file/view/PHID-FILE-b2j7b3537wesajtof752/github-profile.jpg - github-profile.jpg
[20:18:04] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; This code needs documentation.; 
[20:18:17] 	 lol, I could see from the submit button at phabricator that it was from Facebook :P
[20:18:32] 	 03reedy *  10/trunk/extensions/WikimediaMaintenance/dumpInterwiki.php: More null here too
[20:19:04] 	 New code comment: Krinkle; uh ?; 
[20:22:20] 	 Krinkle: srsly.
[20:22:41] 	 ok, robla, I predict you have finished moving that timeline and are done with the git conversion pg
[20:23:02] 	 sumanah: that's the weirdest commit I've seen all day. iw_local is a tiny-int everywhere, null makes no sense
[20:23:10] 	 I felt uh? was appropriate :)
[20:23:33] 	 Krinkle: I meant "srsly" because of the phabricator ui, sorry for ambiguity
[20:23:57] 	 oh, okay :)
[20:24:03] 	 03(NEW) create an Arabic layout based on the Arabic chat alphabet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34123 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Narayam; (amir.aharoni)
[20:24:53] 	 Krinkle: I'm a bit confused by both "uh?" and marking "ok"
[20:24:58] 	 did you mean to do that?
[20:30:09] 	 robla: I did not mark ok, I re-instated the accidental revert I did
[20:30:14] 	 robla: look at the status change history
[20:30:21] 	 cr doesn't do edit conflicts
[20:30:22] 	 in LocalSettings.php, how fine-grained can the privs be? How many different roles we have in MediaWiki?
[20:30:44] 	 robla: the 'uh?' is at the fact that =null works whereas this field is a TINYINT
[20:31:21] 	 pom-dependent
[20:31:23] <^demon>	 gColossus: You can have as many groups as you want.
[20:31:24] 	 iw_local bool NOT NULL
[20:31:32] 	 Krinkle: ah, ok.  I think AaronSchulz is right that it could use documentation
[20:31:33] 	 yep, tiny int
[20:31:48] 	 ^demon: can I have fine-grained control toward Discussion, Edit, View, etc?
[20:31:55] 	 ^demon: or just edit and read?
[20:31:56] 	 mysql may fudge null values into a default depending on strictness
[20:32:02] 	 all that code is kind of crap though
[20:32:17] 	 Reedy: what was the error before?
[20:32:29] <^demon>	 gColossus: You can customize page creation vs. talkpage creation.
[20:32:36] <^demon>	 And editing (generally)
[20:32:50] 	 ^demon: and where I can do that?
[20:33:02] <^demon>	 In LocalSettings.php with $wgGroupPermissions.
[20:33:04] 	 New code comment: RobLa-WMF; Perhaps a comment needed? Added "todo" tag; 
[20:33:06] <^demon>	 !wg GroupPermissions
[20:33:06] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgGroupPermissions
[20:33:07] 	 AaronSchulz, it doesn't use mysql
[20:33:16] 	 cdb, yes
[20:33:24] <^demon>	 Also, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights
[20:33:25] 	 it worked 3 hours ago
[20:33:30] 	 0 should work there though shouldn't it?
[20:33:30] 	 so I'm somewhat bemused
[20:33:38] 	 Other things set 0 also
[20:33:48] 	 03(mod) The Babel localisations for languages with fallback localisations, show the fallback localisation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33768  +comment (10gmeijssen)
[20:33:58] 	 ^demon: cool! thanks :) I will look into that :)
[20:34:05] 	 $this->dbFile->set( "{$source}:{$entry['iw_prefix']}", trim( "{$entry['iw_local']} {$entry['iw_url']}" ) );
[20:34:24] 	 Reedy: that line?
[20:34:31] 	 What about that line?
[20:34:48] 	 was it a problem?
[20:35:10] 	 originally it spewed numerous undefined indexes mainly for iw_local, but a couple for iw_url
[20:35:12] 	 (null just becomes "" there)
[20:35:46] 	 Hi guys!
[20:36:11] 	 I have a wiki with access protected pages. Only logged-in users can edit.
[20:36:35] 	 03(FIXED) Create Wikimedia Belgium wiki (be.wikimedia.org) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30793  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[20:36:36] 	 SPQRobin, ^
[20:36:36] 	 When now a user is not logged in and clicks the "edit" link, he gets the protected text and this default message
[20:37:11] 	 saying something cryptic like "This action is restricted to user in one of the groups: ..."
[20:37:34] 	 New code comment: Reedy; Set to 0 and interwiki links on the cluster are broken \ Set it to null and they're not; 
[20:37:53] 	 Is there a way to tell the user that he just has to login (all users do have an account!) and that he then will be able to edit?
[20:38:04] 	 03(mod) The Babel localisations for languages with fallback localisations, show the fallback localisation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33768  +comment (10robinp.1273)
[20:38:18] 	 That email about new wiki creation - it's automated, right? 'Cuz it thought that "be" is not the country code for Belgium, but the language code for Belarusian.
[20:38:39] 	 Reedy: thanks! are you going to create the other wikis too?
[20:38:48] 	 aharoni, I know, it's fixed
[20:38:50] 	 Yes it's automated
[20:38:55] 	 SPQRobin, that's the plan
[20:39:01] 	 kthx
[20:39:34] 	 the add wiki script doesn't know be.wikimedia and be.wikipedia don't both mean the same be ;)
[20:40:06] <^demon>	 And we've never had that problem before with a chapter wiki?
[20:40:23] * Reedy  shrugs
[20:41:34] 	 maybe uk.wikimedia?
[20:41:35] 	 ok, ^demon, check out https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow 
[20:43:33] 	 ^demon, Ryan_Lane, I've added the web view issue to  https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gerrit_bugs_that_matter#Web_view ... RoanKattouw is there some public place you've put up your gerrit/git thoughts, the stuff you considered/worked on during the San Francisco hackathon?
[20:44:05] 	 None of the things I ended up actually working on were related to gerrit
[20:44:14] 	 That was only git-review and some Jenkins integration stuff
[20:44:25] <^demon>	 sumanah: Workflow looks good.
[20:44:38] 	 the only thing I planned on doing was adding a rewrite rule for gitweb
[20:44:44] 	 Is the job queue fifo?
[20:45:33] * Dantman  rolls his eyes
[20:45:45] 	 WordPress can never do anything write coming up with it's api
[20:45:52] 	 ok, got it -> "pulls an item from the front"
[20:45:53] 	 right*
[20:46:17] 	 tr|nn|: I will update https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Job_queue
[20:46:53] 	 sumanah: found the info I was seeking in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Job_queue_redesign
[20:46:54] 	 tr|nn|: so, FIFO, right?
[20:47:00] 	 yep
[20:47:22] 	 but had no look at the code. just assuming the one who wrote that knew what he was writing :)
[20:47:36] 	 not a good idea, I think
[20:47:57] 	 just because docs fall out of date with the code
[20:48:01] 	 but maybe here it's ok....
[20:48:18] 	 well, will have a look at the code then
[20:49:15] <^demon>	 http://svn.wikimedia.org/doc/classJob.html#a7132a175a0448d13e66bb961c34433da
[20:51:00] 	 I just figured out that I could just use the sitenotice to tell people. Better than nothing...
[20:51:27] 	 RoanKattouw: ok.  given that it sounds like git-review is going to be part of the new code review workflow, are your thoughts/plans wrt it somewhere public?
[20:51:45] 	 labsconsole:Git-review
[20:52:15] 	 ^demon: the one thing I think I need your help with is erasing whatever's obsolete from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Guide#Cloning_MediaWiki.27s_Subversion_repository and replacing it with "just git clone this repo"
[20:52:35] 	 ^demon: the github & gitorious ones are obsolete, so should I just replace them with the test repo?
[20:52:43] 	 and is "create your own mirror" also obsolete?
[20:53:42] 	 03hashar *  10/trunk/phase3/ (40 files in 18 dirs): Fix doxygen docs before REL1_19 branching
[20:55:34] 	 03(mod) Create Wikimedia Belgium wiki (be.wikimedia.org) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30793  +comment (10David Crochet)
[20:55:47] <^demon>	 sumanah: Updated.
[20:56:04] 	 Thanks ^demon 
[20:57:38] 	 git-review means I don't need to do things like `git push puppet HEAD:refs/for/production`, right?
[20:57:50] 	 Yes
[20:57:56] 	 ^_^ Then I'm all for it
[20:58:04] 	 03(FIXED) Create Veps Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32510  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[20:58:18] 	 03raymond *  10/trunk/ (62 files in 42 dirs): Localisation updates for core and extension messages from translatewiki.net
[20:58:30] 	 Frankly having to do messy things like that practically voids any enthusiasm for switching to git
[20:58:51] 	 03(mod) Please create a Marathi Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33907  +comment (10sam)
[20:59:08] <^demon>	 Not that you had to anyway, that's why we made the push-for-review alias.
[20:59:38] 	 Though I'm guessing we won't be getting rid of the port
[20:59:57] 	 tr|nn|: no it's not FIFO
[21:00:12] <^demon>	 Dantman: You could edit your ssh config to specify the default.
[21:00:49] 	 ^demon: push-for-review looks like something that has to be initialized into the repo by custom script or manually... not exactly much better
[21:01:24] <^demon>	 That's why I wrote ./git-setup to do it automagically :D
[21:01:34] <^demon>	 But you're right, having to put those scripts in every repo is silly.
[21:01:55] 	 AaronSchulz: The pop-function used selects from the table with limit 1, i guess its then just up to the db implementation?
[21:02:07] <^demon>	 sumanah: Ok, [[mw:Git/Guide]] is up to date based on current state. Will likely change once we settle on git-review.
[21:02:08] 	 ^demon: .ssh/config That's a mess... hardcoding a non-default port into config because the remot host doesn't use the default port for the given protocol
[21:02:30] <^demon>	 Well, the default port is in use for normal sshd ;-)
[21:02:37] 	 heh
[21:03:04] 	 What do we do with svn.wm?
[21:03:13] 	 hi, I was trying to make a script that would get the diff between the latest revision of the page and the value of a certain textarea on the page
[21:03:20] 	 I tried http://pastebin.com/LX19VTtF
[21:03:22] <^demon>	 Dantman: Read-only, won't be going anywhere for quite awhile.
[21:03:42] 	 but that only shows what the preview would show
[21:03:47] 	 ^demon: No, I mean the setup... svn+ssh:// works fine there with no explicit port.
[21:03:57] 	 is there a way to make it show the diff of the page instead of the preview?
[21:04:16] <^demon>	 Dantman: Because you're using default ssh, just a custom shell that limits you to svnserve.
[21:04:36] 	 tr|nn|: no, look at JobQueue.php around "if ( !$affected ) {"
[21:04:38] 	 03(mod) Please create a Marathi Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33907  +comment (10robinp.1273)
[21:04:43] 	 AaronSchulz: argh, wrong function. ---> 'ORDER BY' => 'job_id'
[21:05:05] 	 queue is a misnomer ;)
[21:05:14] 	 it probably was originally FIFO and then hacked for performance
[21:05:17] 	 lol
[21:05:20] <^demon>	 "job box"
[21:05:22] 	 guys, does anyone know a way to get the diff between the latest revision of a page and the value of a textarea?
[21:05:25] <^demon>	 "Close your eyes and grab one"
[21:05:28] 	 with a script
[21:05:47] 	 Bingo!
[21:05:56] 	 03(mod) Create Wikimedia Belgium wiki (be.wikimedia.org) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30793  +comment (10robinp.1273)
[21:06:13] 	 I guess one could say it is a PriorityQueue with random weight :p
[21:06:23] <^demon>	 Joey|busy: Click show changes instead of preview?
[21:06:34] 	 see, it's queue after all :)
[21:06:34] 	 sumanah: ping
[21:06:38] 	 Job lottery? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Revolving_lottery_machine%2Ckaitenshiki-cyusenki%2Cjapan.JPG
[21:06:39] 	 hi varnent 
[21:06:41] 	 ^demon: yeah but I need to get it with a script
[21:07:01] 	 sumanah: okay - so scheduling the next training and preparing documentaiton
[21:07:06] 	 varnent: witness the magic that is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git and its subpages
[21:07:15] 	 varnent: Krinkle and RoanKattouw are both here, you are in luck
[21:07:35] 	 ^demon: almost like in a candy store :)
[21:07:42] 	 Joey|busy: Use the API, specifically the rvdifftotext parameter
[21:07:56] 	 I'll check that RoanKattouw
[21:08:51] <^demon>	 sumanah: s/indefinitely/a really long time/
[21:08:53] 	 Krinkle & RoanKattouw: Are there a couple days that might work for you to help with a ResourceLoader IRC based workshop?
[21:09:19] 	 varnent: I'm off for two weeks starting next monday
[21:09:29] 	 varnent: Krinkle: RoanKattouw -- let's work backwards from when the extensions and gadgets developers need to know this stuff
[21:09:57] 	 03(FIXED) Create Western Panjabi Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32511  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[21:10:09] 	 sumanah: is there still an event we'd like to schedule this by?
[21:11:53] 	 varnent: that is a good question
[21:12:02] 	 Krinkle: hope you enjoy your vacation
[21:12:15] 	 hexmode: ping, you should know that krinkle is off for 2 weeks starting Monday, in case you need him for anything
[21:12:20] 	 03(mod) Create Wikimedia Belgium wiki (be.wikimedia.org) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30793  +comment (10sam)
[21:13:06] 	 sumanah: I'll forward my more elaborate mail to wmfall-list, look for it in a few minutes :) (it's not exactly vacation, although nothing bad)
[21:13:32] 	 varnent: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Roadmap says that February is when we're deploying yummy new RL stuff but https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_report/2012/January#MediaWiki_infrastructure doesn't have anything in particular to tell me more
[21:13:54] 	 sumanah: I heard at one point they pushed the RL stuff into 1.20 - is that true?
[21:14:11] 	 varnent: robla, RoanKattouw, and alolita know more about that than I do. ^^^
[21:14:12] 	 varnent: What RL stuff are you referring to exactly ?
[21:14:40] 	 afaik nothing new is between 1.18 and 1.20, other than minor changes to the loader which improved a lot
[21:14:47] 	 Krinkle: I'm not really sure exactly - just whatever is mentioned on the Roadmap sumanah referenced
[21:15:09] 	 I think he's talking about RL2 / Gadgets
[21:15:13] 	 at some point after the 1.19 deploy we're deprecating NOT using RL in gadgets, correct?
[21:15:18] 	 aha "ResourceLoader 2", yeah, that's more "Gadgets 2.0", which is related to the Gadgets-extension
[21:15:18] 	 Yes, that's right
[21:15:18] 	 03(mod) Please create a Marathi Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33907  +comment (10sam)
[21:15:23] 	 But NOT IN 1.19
[21:15:43] 	 Only when we deploy the new Gadgets extension, which will be a while yet
[21:15:58] 	 Gadgets 2.0 won't be ready before 1.19 is branched, but probably ready before 1.20 and can be updated on wmf any random time after 1.19 is deployed, extensions allow that flexibility
[21:15:58] 	 also, varnent, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Migration_guide_%28users%29 and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Migration_guide_for_extension_developers might be worth reviewing in case you have notes/requests
[21:16:01] 	 thanks RoanKattouw
[21:16:04] 	 it works
[21:16:38] 	 Krinkle: ok, could you toss that in the relevant month on the roadmap?
[21:16:43] 	 I need to head away for a bit
[21:17:00] 	 03gregchiasson *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ (3 files in 3 dirs): AFT5: Fix query-continue support for rating/helpfulness sorting. Refs r110412, stil has a lingering issue with ratings sort.
[21:17:15] 	 03(NEW) Create a Project namespace on Russian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34124 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (vasilvv)
[21:17:16] 	 sumanah: I'm not sure what to put in the roadmap, this isn't a plan. 
[21:18:16] 	 well - let me ask this - is there anything in regards to RL happening in 1.19 that folks should be aware of?
[21:18:20] 	 03(mod) Create a Project namespace on Russian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34124  normal->15enhancement;  +shell (10Victor Vasiliev)
[21:18:24] 	 03(mod) Interwiki map broken globally for local interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34109  +comment (10painius)
[21:18:25] 	 varnent: No
[21:18:38] 	 okay
[21:18:40] 	 varnent: But there was plenty in 1.17 and 1.18 that people still haven't heard of
[21:19:03] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ResourceLoader/Migration_guide_%28users%29 summarizes everything people need to know about changes in js/css/gadgets
[21:19:12] 	 right - so if we schedule a RL training independent of the 1.19 release - that's a logical approach - so it's just a matter of getting on people's schedules that should be there
[21:20:31] 	 03(NEW) Defines.php seems not to be loaded for maintenance scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34125 minor; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (sam)
[21:20:52] 	 03(FIXED) Please create a Marathi Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33907  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[21:23:50] 	 03(mod) Create Western Panjabi Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32511  +comment (10robinp.1273)
[21:27:14] 	 Krinkle: when are you back from your vaca?
[21:27:57] 	 February 20
[21:28:03] 	 February 19 *
[21:28:48] 	 hah
[21:30:01] 	 03(mod) Please create a Marathi Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33907  +comment (10robinp.1273)
[21:31:06] 	 03(FIXED) Enable translate extension on Wikimania 2012 wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34120  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[21:31:10] 	 03(mod) images uploaded by upload wizard have no upload comment (img_description) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32446  summary (10Bawolff)
[21:31:35] 	 03(mod) Useless/misleading column "description" in [[Special:ListFiles]] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33947  +comment (10Bawolff)
[21:31:35] 	 03(mod) images uploaded by upload wizard have no upload comment (img_description) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32446  (10Bawolff)
[21:36:08] 	 03(mod) Please create a Marathi Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33907  +comment (10sam)
[21:36:09] 	 03(mod) Create Western Panjabi Wiktionary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32511  +comment (10sam)
[21:36:23] 	 RoanKattouw: there a day that week which would work for you? like the 23rd
[21:36:42] 	 Ah, for what?
[21:37:45] 	 04(REOPENED) Enable translate extension on Wikimania 2012 wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34120  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[21:38:13] 	 varnent: ok, glad that's cleared up, sorry I thought there was a dependency
[21:38:28] 	 03(NEW) Using search box on m.wikipedia in a non-mobile browser redirects to normal site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34126 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: generic; (wiki)
[21:38:38] 	 sumanah: I did as well actually
[21:39:09] 	 RoanKattouw: for a IRC Workshop on ResourceLoader - 15 minutes of "here's some things to know - here's how it works" and 45 minutes of Q&A
[21:40:15] 	 KO
[21:40:17] 	 *KO
[21:40:18] 	 *OK
[21:40:25] 	 (oh come on, I can't type tonight)
[21:40:53] 	 03hashar *  10/trunk/phase3/docs/doxygen_first_page.php: doxygen landing page
[21:41:09] 	 23rd is probably fine
[21:41:22] 	 But I can't guarantee much at this point
[21:42:19] 	 New code comment: Reedy; svn:eol-style native; 
[21:42:28] 	 RoanKattouw: knock out?
[21:42:39] 	 heh
[21:43:03] 	 hashar, git fail?
[21:43:12] 	 Reedy: na this time it is svn fail
[21:43:14] 	 RoanKattouw: that makes sense - I'll bounce around the 23rd and thereabouts - but we'll probably wait a bit to set something in stone  :)
[21:43:19] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; A most unholy of code sins.; 
[21:43:28] 	 03(mod) Image page provides links to image resolutions greater than those supported by image scalars - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34041  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[21:43:34] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; A most unholy of code sins.; 
[21:43:41] 	 Reedy: and I get an auto prop section!!
[21:43:50] 	 enable it? :p
[21:43:55] 	 hmm, I get a blank page on post
[21:44:13] 	 Reedy: http://dpaste.org/is8jY/
[21:44:25] 	 enable-auto-props' option
[21:44:26] 	 seriously
[21:44:32] 	 loool
[21:44:35] 	 SVN IS F¨******************************************LY DUMB
[21:44:45] 	 that was my last commlit
[21:44:49] 	 Krinkle: would the 23rd work for you?
[21:45:00] 	 I will submit pull requests on github or gerrit instead
[21:45:02] 	 varnent: sure
[21:45:08] 	 varnent: what time though?
[21:45:16] 	 03(mod) New FileBackend code breaks WebStore extension - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34083  +comment (10bawolff+wn)
[21:45:25] 	 hashar: I have just, with Chad's help, updated a bunch of the Git pages on mediawiki.org
[21:45:38] 	 so the timeline is now actually up to date for https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git_conversion
[21:45:49] 	 Ewww, git...
[21:46:08] 	 Reedy: done. thx
[21:46:12] 	 03hashar *  10/trunk/phase3/docs/doxygen_first_page.php:
[21:46:12] 	 docs/doxygen_first_page.php eol-style native
[21:46:12] 	 ping r110521
[21:49:03] 	 and tipsy author did not answered me yet
[21:50:58] 	 robla: check it. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Conversion
[21:51:00] 	 sumanah: thoughts on the 23rd and a good time?
[21:51:07] 	 Krinkle: probably afternoon or evening in EST
[21:51:24] 	 03(mod) Please create a Marathi Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33907  +comment (10sam)
[21:52:02] * AaronSchulz  's tim detector goes off
[21:52:12] 	 varnent: checking
[21:52:26] 	 varnent: Hah, timing is gonna be interesting, since Krinkle is in Europe and I'll be in the US
[21:52:29] 	 (PST)
[21:52:46] 	 So early afternoon EST would probably be best if you wanna catch both of us on line
[21:52:59] 	 Krinkle keeps antisocial hours
[21:53:02] 	 03(mod) Please create a Marathi Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33907  +comment (10robinp.1273)
[21:53:03] 	 True
[21:53:36] * varnent  chuckling at "antisocial hours"
[21:53:52] 	 varnent: there's nothing particularly special about the 23rd in WMF's internal calendar
[21:53:54] 	 YET
[21:56:05] 	 Reedy: That depends on who I'm social to ;-)
[21:56:31] 	 TimStarling: I was messing around with http://pastebin.com/jhbwF3gX earlier
[21:57:48] 	 Krinkle: so what are some social hours for you on the 23rd?
[21:57:59] * varnent  envisioning cocktails and peanuts
[21:58:15] 	 AaronSchulz: you obviously like worms
[21:58:28] 	 you know we're meant to branch this like yesterday
[21:58:29] 	 varnent: he plays the piano as well
[21:58:48] 	 heh, I was thinking about how much I didn't want this in the UI level
[21:58:54] 	 varnent: pretty much Dutch-like so available from 19:00 to 01:00 at the most (my time zone)
[21:58:58] 	 so 7pm to midnight GMT
[22:00:24] 	 sumanah & RoanKattow: so what about like 4P EST / 1P PST / 9P GMT?  (that right?)
[22:00:40] 	 varnent: those sound fine to me
[22:01:45] 	 Sounds fine
[22:01:46] 	 Geh... WebDeveloper toolbar lost it's ability to disable javascript
[22:01:51] 	 awesome! we are under 100 revisions to be reviewed in trunk! http://toolserver.org/~robla/crstats/
[22:02:10] 	 okay - so penciling in a ResourceLoader workshop for Feb 23rd at 4P EST / 1P PST / 9P GMT
[22:02:16] 	 Yay
[22:02:22] 	 w00t!
[22:02:25] 	 I'm gonna do some CR tomorrow
[22:02:30] 	 now, can we *stay* under 100  :)
[22:02:45] * robla  recalls having this celebration last week
[22:03:07] 	 so what's our CR B.P. now ?
[22:03:17] 	 blood pressure?
[22:03:20] 	 03gregchiasson *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/api/ApiFlagFeedbackArticleFeedbackv5.php:
[22:03:20] 	 AFT5: Attempt to work around the hlepfulness counts being one action behind by
[22:03:20] 	 just relying on the code, instead of the database. Will result in someone else's
[22:03:20] 	 changes not being taken into account, assuming anyone else was editing it the
[22:03:20] 	 same time you were, but that actually seems more intuitive, to me. Also minor
[22:03:20] 	 yeah :)
[22:03:21] 	 fix to use af_net_helpfulness instead of calculating it from helpful and
[22:03:22] 	 unhelpful counts.
[22:03:40] 	 robla: Reedy usually writes it as if it is BP
[22:03:42] 	 x over y
[22:03:45] 	 89/27
[22:03:47] 	 03(mod) Enable translate extension on Wikimania 2012 wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34120   +i18n (10Siebrand)
[22:03:51] 	 :P
[22:04:03] 	 it looked more real when it was at a different ratio
[22:04:09] 	 now it looks like the BP of an alian
[22:04:09] 	 82 revs/16 FIXMEs
[22:04:10] 	 alien*
[22:04:25] 	 rather unhuman
[22:04:38] 	 (my number is up to an hour out of date)
[22:04:39] 	 whoops 27
[22:04:47] 	 I was more out of date (revision report)
[22:05:16] * AaronSchulz  tasted hops for a second
[22:05:22] 	 ah....revision report is actually more accurate, since nodeploys are weeded out
[22:08:25] * robla  starts rerunning report
[22:09:42] 	 03daniel *  10/branches/Wikidata/phase3/includes/ContentHandler.php: first brain dump for ContentHandler interface
[22:09:56] 	 03(NEW) Article Feedback Page - first item appears wrong in Firefox9/Win - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34127 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (yoni)
[22:11:12] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - first item appears wrong in Firefox9/Win - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34127   +aftv5-1.5 (10Yoni Shostak)
[22:12:38] 	 03(NEW) Invalid "cross-wiki" page can be created, but not directly accessed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34128 normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (28bytes)
[22:12:42] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/110040
[22:12:46] 	 man that is epic
[22:13:32] 	 Holy crap
[22:13:41] 	 "arrow heads"
[22:14:55] 	 03(NEW) Article Feedback Page - click on "show more" behavior wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34129 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (yoni)
[22:15:28] <^demon|away>	 Sam already fixed it :)
[22:15:30] 	 sumanah: no, didn't know about krinkle :( and I'll look at the interwiki bugs
[22:15:43] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - click on "show more" behavior wrong - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34129  normal->major;  +aftv5-1.5; +comment (10Yoni Shostak)
[22:16:07] 	 hrm... looking at the backscroll here is bad enough
[22:18:07] 	 03(NEW) Article Feedback Page - wrong cursor for some actions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34130 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (yoni)
[22:18:25] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - wrong cursor for some actions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34130   +aftv5-1.5 (10Yoni Shostak)
[22:18:43] 	 03(mod) Special:FormEdit/form/page?redlink=1 should redirect to page if page exists - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33495  +comment (10yaron57)
[22:19:59] 	 14(DUP) Invalid "cross-wiki" page can be created, but not directly accessed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34128  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[22:20:01] 	 03(mod) Interwiki map broken globally for local interlanguage links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34109  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[22:20:13] 	 03(NEW) Article Feedback Page - Showing: All visible has very large number in () - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34131 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (yoni)
[22:20:55] 	 03(mod) Using search box on m.wikipedia in a non-mobile browser redirects to normal site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34126  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[22:21:25] 	 sumanah: hexmode: robla: RoanKattouw: Just e-mailed wmfall with more details about my availability (the note here in irc was a bit vague)
[22:21:53] 	 Thank you Krinkle 
[22:22:08] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - Showing: All visible has very large number in () - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34131  +comment (10Roan Kattouw)
[22:22:20] 	 03christian *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/contentEditable/ (4 files in 2 dirs): adding table to hybrid demo
[22:22:42] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - Showing: All visible has very large number in () - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34131   +aftv5-1.5 (10Yoni Shostak)
[22:22:55] 	 yup that helps, thanks Krinkle
[22:23:15] 	 03(mod) create an Arabic layout based on the Arabic chat alphabet - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34123  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[22:23:32] 	 03(mod) Defines.php seems not to be loaded for maintenance scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34125  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[22:23:48] 	 03(NEW) addwiki adds unused language interwiki links to mainpage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34132 minor; MediaWiki extensions: WikimediaMaintenance; (sam)
[22:23:54] 	 03(mod) Using search box on m.wikipedia in a non-mobile browser redirects to normal site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34126  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[22:24:24] 	 Krinkle: Nice, so half-time availability starting Feb 20
[22:24:26] 	 I like
[22:24:29] 	 :)
[22:24:29] 	 03(mod) Using search box on m.wikipedia in a non-mobile browser redirects to normal site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34126  +comment (10tfinc)
[22:24:38] 	 03(mod) Using search box on m.wikipedia in a non-mobile browser redirects to normal site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34126   +easy (10Tomasz Finc)
[22:24:38] 	 That's also when I expect to have just movd
[22:24:49] 	 And knowing your schedule you'll probably be on line during my mornign
[22:25:08] 	 yeah, basically the way we do features meetings now with SF
[22:25:15] 	 same overlap
[22:26:13] 	 03gregchiasson *  10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/modules/jquery.articleFeedbackv5/jquery.articleFeedbackv5.special.css: AFT5: Put pointer/hand cursor on abuse/hide/delete links.
[22:28:02] 	 Yeah
[22:28:14] 	 Except I'll be moving to a more conventional schedule
[22:29:24] 	 ^demon|away: "CI tests && linting get run when a developer chooses to push to the stage between their branch and the mainline branch" -- remind me, is this done or in progress?
[22:30:00] 	 No, in progress
[22:30:06] 	 I made some progress towards this at the hackathon
[22:30:18] 	 But this is essentially the big project I was trying to dump on Chad after the hackathon ended
[22:30:34] 	 03(mod) Marked as helpful counter seems off - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34119   +aftv5-1.5; +comment (10Yoni Shostak)
[22:31:12] 	 right
[22:31:24] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - Marked as helpful counter seems off - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34119  summary (10Yoni Shostak)
[22:32:41] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - Sorting links visual issues - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34071  summary; +comment (10Yoni Shostak)
[22:33:15] 	 03(mod) Article Feedback Page - wrong cursor for some actions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34130  (10Yoni Shostak)
[22:35:43] 	 Krinkle: what is the status on this one? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33711
[22:35:55] 	 I thought you said you were fixing it the other day
[22:36:02] 	 03(NEW) Womens Library London image artifacts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34133 normal; MediaWiki: Images and files; (Platonides)
[22:36:18] 	 hexmode: yes, but haven't had the time to test/commit yet
[22:36:19] 	 or maybe just that it would be easy to fix
[22:36:27] 	 i have it local
[22:36:34] 	 tonight I'll get it in svn
[22:36:40] 	 ah k
[22:36:41] 	 :)
[22:36:58] 	 03(NEW) "What's this?" info box persists after submitting text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34134 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedbackv5; (cmcmahon)
[22:37:53] 	 Krinkle: Isn't that fixed by top-loading mw.util?
[22:38:02] 	 RoanKattouw: No, not per se.
[22:38:21] 	 RoanKattouw: mw.util.init is enqueued into jQuery doc-ready hook from page.ready module
[22:38:27] 	 Ooh OK
[22:38:29] 	 I'm moving that to ready.startup instead
[22:38:30] 	 Right
[22:38:37] 	 so that it's enqueed from the top instead of bottom
[22:39:00] 	 03inez *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/contentEditable/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Port contentEditable demo to EditingSurface layout
[22:39:05] 	 from mediawiki.page.ready to mediawiki.page.startup
[22:39:10] 	 03(mod) "What's this?" info box persists after submitting text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34134   +aftv5-1.5 (10Chris McMahon)
[22:39:38] 	 then it's almost guruanteed to be the first thing in that queue, certainly before any other module can be placed in the callback list
[22:39:47] 	 assuming jquery executes in other of insertion
[22:39:57] 	 (the callback list)
[22:40:21] 	 RoanKattouw: not very clean to depend on, but that'll be fixed soon when we're getting mw.hooks
[22:40:38] 	 which I'm planning to implement very soon. probably not in 1.19 but soon after
[22:40:53] 	 Oh, OK
[22:41:00] 	 depends on whether the format can be agreed on quickly. if so, it's only an hour to implement it
[22:41:06] 	 pretty simple with $.Callbacks available
[22:41:09] 	 awesome stuff
[22:41:10] 	 I haven't heard about this but you'll have to tell me about it some other time
[22:41:16] 	 I'm falling asleep right nwo
[22:42:22] 	 RoanKattouw: Basically all we do is mw.hook.add('name', fn) and mw.hook.run('name'), and 'name' will be handled by jQuery. if it was already fired, it'll call the function right away with the last run data, otherwise its placed in a list to be called when .run() is called 
[22:42:23] 	 Leaving in a few min
[22:42:29] 	 RoanKattouw: Much like document-ready in jquery core
[22:42:33] 	 which actually uses that
[22:42:45] 	 OK, so that's essentially like binding events on arbitrary objects in jQuery, right?
[22:43:01] 	 Not quite. It's different from event binding.
[22:43:11] 	 Less overhead, less sucky timing issues
[22:43:26] 	 e.g. trigger('click').click(fn) ,will not fire fn
[22:43:48] 	 Right
[22:43:55] 	 which is good, for events
[22:44:08] 	 Yeah, not for stuff like ready
[22:44:54] 	 Alright, I gotta go get some sleep
[22:45:38] 	 so we'd have hooks like 'article.ready' that's passed #bodyContent (depending on the skin), but I can also see hooks like 'portlet.ready' which gadgets would use to addPortletLink, depending on the current mw.page.getTitle, so that when we ajax page replace, gadgets can re-add port lets and do stuff
[22:45:56] 	 article.ready is the most important one for dynamic stuff on page js preview
[22:48:56] 	 03(NEW) Activation of FlaggedRevs in catalan wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34135 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (bertrand.grondin)
[22:49:03] 	 03(mod) "What's this?" info box persists after submitting text - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34134  (10Chris McMahon)
[22:49:11] 	 03(mod) Activation of FlaggedRevs in catalan wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34135  (10Bertrand GRONDIN)
[22:56:18] 	 03inez *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/contentEditable/views/es.ParagraphView.js: Render paragraphs as a  tags (indtead of 
)
[22:56:50] 	 03(NEW) fenari cleanup: /home/wikipedia/bin and /usr/local/bin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34136 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (robla)
[22:57:03] 	 03(mod) fenari cleanup: /home/wikipedia/bin and /usr/local/bin - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34136  (10Rob Lanphier)
[23:02:04] 	 03(mod) Migrate subversion to git (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22596  (10Rob Lanphier)
[23:02:04] 	 03(NEW) Write git localization import scripts for TranslateWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34137 enhancement; Wikimedia: Subversion; (robla)
[23:02:30] 	 03(mod) Write git localization import scripts for TranslateWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34137  (10Rob Lanphier)
[23:02:34] 	 hexmode: last thing before I go -- were you able to check on whether the deployed version of JS on Commons is the updated version that has that fix?
[23:02:53] 	 and on the commons beta deployment test site?
[23:02:54] 	 I need to know before doing more encouragement of Commons people to do testing
[23:09:59] 	 03(mod) Migrate subversion to git (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22596  (10Rob Lanphier)
[23:10:10] 	 anyone know Daniel_WMDE's commit id?
[23:10:23] 	 03(mod) Write git localization import scripts for TranslateWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34137  (10Rob Lanphier)
[23:10:56] 	 03christian *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/contentEditable/styles/ (es.DocumentView.css es.SurfaceView.css): tweaking margins
[23:12:21] 	 Krinkle: since we added back mw.util, can we add back mw.html?
[23:12:54] 	 hexmode: mw.util wasn't added back, it's raised in load order. its not "back"
[23:13:00] 	 Krinkle: saibo said he was seeing failures for that w/o any gadgets
[23:13:06] 	 Krinkle: ah, k
[23:13:07] 	 hexmode: mw.html is part of mediawiki.js core, there is no "mediawik.html" module
[23:13:19] 	 if mw.html is failing, his code is in error
[23:13:19] 	 and nm about the mw.html failure
[23:13:49] 	 k, will make sure he doesn't have any user js
[23:16:43] 	 04(REOPENED) v1.6.1 and v1.7.0 / SMW_conceptCache.php --create fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32592  +comment (10MWJames)
[23:17:00] 	 Krinkle: just saw a mw.user failure for anon on commons.beta ... will check common.js
[23:17:08] 	 Ryan_Lane: to clarify, your extension will not connect to an ldap server if it's cert is not trusted. Correct?
[23:19:01] 	 03(NEW) Stage source tree on fenari with git instead of svn - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34138 normal; Wikimedia: Subversion; (robla)
[23:19:01] 	 03(mod) Migrate subversion to git (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22596  (10Rob Lanphier)
[23:19:09] 	 03(mod) Womens Library London image artifacts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34133  +comment (10Andrew Gray)
[23:19:18] 	 03(mod) Stage source tree on fenari with git instead of svn - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34138  (10Rob Lanphier)
[23:23:19] 	 Ryan_Lane: also, I'm adding some stuff to the kerebros example
[23:24:06] 	 03(mod) Womens Library London image artifacts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34133  (10Tim Starling)
[23:24:20] 	 03(mod) Womens Library London image artifacts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34133  (10Tim Starling)
[23:24:31] 	 03(mod) Write git localization import scripts for TranslateWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34137  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[23:24:40] 	 03(mod) Write git localization import scripts for TranslateWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34137  (10Rob Lanphier)
[23:25:58] 	 03(mod) [TestSwarm] fetcher need git support - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33773  (10Rob Lanphier)
[23:26:27] 	 03christian *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/contentEditable/styles/es.DocumentView.css: removing outline from contenteditable elements
[23:26:32] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lua/Resources
[23:26:34] 	 03christian *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/contentEditable/views/ (es.TableCellView.js es.TableView.js): contenteditable false for tables - true for table cells
[23:26:43] 	 Also, I fail at making one edit
[23:26:43] 	 Krinkle: mw.user? what provides that?
[23:26:47] 	 wikibugs: You're kind of annoying.
[23:27:09] 	 hexmode: 'mediawiki.user'
[23:27:15] 	 Creative.
[23:28:05] 	 Krinkle: am I imagining things or did these use to be "mediaWiki"?
[23:28:25] 	 hexmode: window.mw is a global alias of window.mediaWiki
[23:28:37] 	 fully interchangeable, does not matter a single  bit
[23:29:14] 	 they are both pointers to the same object
[23:31:15] 	 Krinkle: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lua/Resources
[23:31:32] 	 In case you come across any other helpful resources.
[23:31:42] 	 Though it's probably a bit early to prepare resources.
[23:31:49] 	 I just found a link today that I wanted to stick somewhere.
[23:31:51] 	 how would i join a channel, on my site i have the WebChat extension, but i only see status
[23:32:05] 	 indeed, I'm not part of this project nor up to date about it's development
[23:32:21] 	 I'd love to know what the status of that is, but got other things to do :)
[23:32:24] 	 (i want to mbe able to go to #USEagency
[23:32:44] 	 pokeswap: Try "/join #usEagency"?
[23:33:00] 	 Are you connected to a network?
[23:36:10] 	 did not work on my wiki but worked here? link to the chat om my wiki http://spyinginc.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:WebChat
[23:36:44] 	 03(NEW) Wikipedia Android app should have a find in page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34139 normal; Wikimedia Mobile: android; (tfinc)
[23:40:33] 	 03(NEW) Set up gitweb redirects so that Gerrit will work as repo browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34140 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; (robla)
[23:40:34] 	 03(mod) Migrate subversion to git (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22596  (10Rob Lanphier)
[23:41:44] 	 03(mod) Set up gitweb redirects so that Gerrit will work as repo browser - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34140  (10Rob Lanphier)
[23:42:04] 	 Question: OpenID extension uses javascript for an automatic redirect to the OpenID server page, which fails since a while.
[23:42:06] 	 OpenID uses this
[23:42:07] 	 function submitOpenIDForm() {  document.getElementById("openid_message").submit()  }
[23:42:09] 	 hookEvent("load", submitOpenIDForm);
[23:42:10] 	 What do I have to change ?
[23:42:11] 	  
[23:42:47] 	 Error console says "hookEvent() is not defined"
[23:43:24] 	 03(mod) Collect enwiki clickstream data (we could use it to automatically fix links to disambiguation pages and more) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12742  (10Rob Lanphier)
[23:44:25] 	 03(mod) Using search box on m.wikipedia in a non-mobile browser redirects to normal site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34126  (10Andrea Stagi)
[23:44:59] 	 03(mod) Using search box on m.wikipedia in a non-mobile browser redirects to normal site - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34126  (10Andrea Stagi)
[23:45:26] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android app should have a find in page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34139  (10Andrea Stagi)
[23:47:04] 	 03(mod) Wikipedia Android app should have a find in page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34139  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[23:47:12] 	 03aaron *  10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/backend/FileBackend.php: r110253: reworded "expensive" cache fields and function per CR
[23:47:17] 	 03(mod) v1.6.1 and v1.7.0 / SMW_conceptCache.php --create fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32592  +comment (10jamesin.hongkong.1)
[23:47:21] 	 03(mod) Activation of FlaggedRevs in catalan wikinews - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34135  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[23:48:12] 	 Q: what is the replacement of "skins/common/wikibits.js:function hookEvent(hookName, hookFunct) {}"
[23:48:34] 	 Wikinaut: jQuery( submitOpenIDForm ); or jQuery( document ).ready( submitOpenIDForm );
[23:48:35] 	 WTF! A bot that replaces  with ''
[23:48:36] 	 https://beta.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AKrinkle&action=historysubmit&diff=94812&oldid=94808
[23:48:47] 	 03inez *  10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/contentEditable/views/es.ContentView.js: Don't replace spaces with   in content editable
[23:49:02] 	 Wikinaut: Though you could actually drop the explicit definition of a function and do it anonymously
[23:49:46] 	 what does [18:49] == You have not registered [18:49] == ERROR: Closing Link: localhost (Connection timed out) [18:49] == Disconnected from server: Connection to IRC server lost. mean
[23:49:51] 	 this ^ I do not understand. 
[23:50:16] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; Specifically, ConfirmAccount had a problem with this.; 
[23:50:58] 	 on http://spyinginc.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:WebChat i typed /join #USEagency and it did not work now it said that^^^
[23:52:06] 	 Dantman: have a look here http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/OpenID/SpecialOpenID.body.php?revision=97770&view=markup line 294
[23:52:25] 	 03(NEW) Integrate Jenkins with Git - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34141 normal; Wikimedia: Git/Gerrit; (robla)
[23:52:25] 	 03(mod) Migrate subversion to git (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22596  (10Rob Lanphier)
[23:53:22] 	 Wikinaut: I mean you could just do jQuery( function() { /* The code */ } );
[23:53:33] 	 03foxtrott *  10/trunk/extensions/SemanticPageSeries/ (3 files in 2 dirs): provide link to origin page; replace wfMsg calls
[23:53:55] 	 I understood your first answer