[00:04:11] 03kaldari * 10/trunk/extensions/ProofreadPage/ProofreadPage.php: attempt to fix bug 33873 - localBasePath shouldnt end with a slash [00:10:10] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/CreatePage/ (6 files): importing CreatePage extension [00:18:43] 03(mod) Email abuse - filter to stop? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33761 +comment (10john) [00:22:02] New code comment: Reedy; Tested locally, works fine in non debug mode :); [00:22:22] Zaran, ^ [00:23:05] Reedy : looks interesting [00:23:10] but it was already working locally [00:23:34] lol, it works fine for me locally in non debug mode [00:23:43] can you update it on labs? [00:24:04] not sure [00:24:06] hexmode can [00:26:21] ok Reedy : i just did [00:26:57] still the same problem [00:27:02] bleh [00:33:29] 03(mod) Email abuse - filter to stop? - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33761 +comment (10rolandrance) [00:34:30] 03(mod) Proofread extension JS loading fully broken on 1.19 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33873 +comment (10Ryan Kaldari) [00:37:02] 03(NEW) Special:NovaProject needs a table of contents - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34196 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: OpenStackManager; (sam) [00:50:39] Zaran: Pushed your patch to labs, as well r110691. JS still isn't loading, but maybe you'll have more luck troubleshooting it now. [00:56:55] kaldari : which patch ? [00:57:11] I think it was already pushed yesterday [00:57:26] the one to make mediawiki.legacy.wikibits a dependancy in ProofreadPage [00:57:50] oh ok, I thought it was pushed [00:57:58] Maybe it was [00:58:10] r110691 is new though [00:58:29] Reedy reports that it's working for him locally [00:59:10] and of course it's extra hard to troubleshoot on labs since it only happens when you have debug off :( [00:59:16] right [01:29:56] is there a proper way to phrase this idiom in a way that mysql will accept? [01:29:58] cast( user_touched AS timestamp ) >= '20110905000000' [01:30:02] it doesn't like that :> [01:30:13] says syntax error at 'timestamp' [01:30:13] What are you trying to do? [01:30:31] You shouldn't need to cast the timestamp if you're just doing a time comparison. [01:30:37] get a timestamp from the user_touched value (which is binary(14)) and compare it against a minimum time [01:30:46] You can just do user_touched >= '20110905000000'. [01:30:49] ahh [01:30:51] ok [01:30:59] didn't know if binary() type supported collation [01:31:01] It's just important that you quote the value. [01:31:08] Otherwise it'll be slow as shit. [01:31:28] If you want to format the user_touched value in the select, you can use... [01:31:45] DATE_FORMAT() [01:31:56] https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Queries [01:32:15] actually I'm aiming for a count of users since opening with a certain edit count threshold :> [01:32:54] user_touched isn't very reliable for anything. [01:33:03] It's an internal timestamp that's recalculated for all sorts of strange reasons. [01:33:14] hmm [01:33:27] You'd want... user.user_editcount and... [01:33:44] user.user_registration, I guess? [01:34:05] the problem with that is that this database was imported [01:34:16] so there are a lot of old users who are not active in the new wiki [01:34:53] and on the other hand, people have reclaimed their old accounts by sending me their email address so they can set a new password, so there have been relatively few registrations [02:14:13] 04(REOPENED) Add support for non-Arabic number systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34193 +comment (10Shiju Alex) [02:55:21] 03(mod) importScript, importScriptURI, and addPortletLink errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34147 summary (10Mark A. Hershberger) [02:55:36] 03(mod) importScript, importScriptURI, and addPortletLink errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34147 (10Mark A. Hershberger) [03:37:31] Is there a parser function that switches a piece of text with another piece of text? That is, if the {{{gender}}} value is Male, it will display Son, if it is Female, it will display Daughter, if nothing is entered, it displays Child. [03:37:33] Any ideas? [03:40:35] Nevermind, I think I found it. [04:19:07] 03(mod) Page translation with external link needing CAPTCHA - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34182 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [04:27:40] 03(mod) RevisionDeletion-suppress and log entries don't play nice - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33167 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [04:50:36] 03(mod) Add support for non-Arabic number systems - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34193 +comment (10Jayanta Nath) [05:58:19] hi, is there anyway to block an IP that's abusing a wiki, except the IP is the original IP stored in XFF? [05:58:41] it looks like another IP, but when you checkuser it, the true IP shows up in XFF [06:00:18] hello guys, this is a non-related mediawiki question - anyone have hydrairc, how to i export the settings -- hmm maybe there is a hydrairc irc channel? [06:16:02] rum: have a look for a hydra folder under your app data settings (start -> run -> %appdata%) [06:17:57] thank you so much mr snake! [06:18:06] have a great weekend! [06:51:13] 03(mod) #time parser function can't read local language month names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19412 +comment (10jayantanth) [07:07:21] 03(NEW) Can't save text including the protocol https on wikimania2012, translating it into Korean - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34197 trivial; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (qbphcqdw) [07:18:41] 03(mod) Can't save text including the protocol https on wikimania2012, translating it into Korean - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34197 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [07:24:55] 03(mod) Adding options to Special:ListUsers (hide permanent and temporary blocks) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33545 +comment (10Aashish Mittal) [07:40:59] Hey guys, I'm trying to add a Traditional Chinese version of my wiki. It's a bit confusing, most of web uses zh-cn and zh-tw, but for my wiki do I need to use zh-hans and zh-hant in my localsettings for the language? [08:04:38] SideSw|pe: Does this help? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:LocalSettings.php/zh-cn [08:05:08] let me check it out, thanks. [08:05:43] Google found it for me with mediawiki zh-cn [09:02:30] hi! just tried latest svn mediawiki. It just return internal error. Exception caughtt inside exception handler. And nothing more, even with $wgShowExceptionDetails='true' [09:03:59] o hai [09:04:03] anyone awake??? [09:04:07] yes [09:04:17] need some help with the SMWHalo install [09:04:34] Fatal error: Call to a member function addMessages() on a non-object in /var/www/mediawiki2/deployment/Deployment.php on line 35 [09:04:35] which issue you have? [09:05:14] which version you have? can you paste that line? [09:05:34] version of mediawiki? [09:05:51] SMWHAlo? [09:06:26] both i think [09:07:10] SMW 1.6.0 [09:07:45] mediawiki 1.18.1 [09:08:17] so, what about that line? [09:08:36] i am sorry , not understanding [09:09:14] line 35 from Deployment.php [09:09:18] oh ok [09:10:04] $wgMessageCache->addMessages($dfgLang->getLanguageArray(), $wgLang->getCode()); [09:10:24] $wgLang? [09:10:29] I have not seen it [09:13:32] i think there is no $wgMessageCache [09:15:36] xvilka: thanks i will hunt, [09:17:07] xvilka: yes ! http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/81027 [09:17:27] wgMessageCache is removed [09:22:15] ok i am still lost [09:22:26] Fatal error: Call to undefined method EmptyBagOStuff::addMessages() in /var/www/mediawiki2/deployment/Deployment.php on line 35 [09:23:32] what you've changed? [09:23:42] i have to chance the call to wgMemc [09:24:03] I used $wgMemc instead [09:24:10] bad idea? [09:24:19] looks like [09:25:41] http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/262242 [09:44:22] ya $wgMemc ahs nothign to do with messages [09:44:30] has nothing* [09:45:32] 03(mod) PostgreSQL: pg_query() [function.pg-query]: Query failed: ERROR: syntax error at or near "ENGINE" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29555 +comment (10anton.kochkov) [09:50:37] Could someone help me with something regarding ParserFunctions? I don't know where I've gone wrong. http://camphalfblood.wikia.com/wiki/User:MakeShift/workbench/test (and the original code is without the /test) [10:08:12] Anyone? [10:31:05] i am not proficient enough to do this [10:33:30] 03(mod) Thumbnails of PDFs with non-standard page sizes are rendered incorrectly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33722 summary (10This, that and the other) [10:41:17] New code comment: Krinkle; Yeah, that's true. bug 33711/r110542 is not the same problem though (although it does result in the ; [10:50:10] 03(FIXED) developer email should state more clearly that it is public - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33826 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [10:50:53] 03(FIXED) PostgreSQL: pg_query() [function.pg-query]: Query failed: ERROR: syntax error at or near "ENGINE" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29555 +comment (10Anton Kochkov) [10:53:40] 03(mod) Sending multiple http status code headers kills fastcgi causing misery (and ugliness since RL does this) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12124 +comment (10jukey) [10:56:10] I guess i should file a bug report :( [11:14:17] 03(NEW) first item in the history shows no information about its size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34198 normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (umherirrender_de.wp) [11:30:59] Hi all. I'm working on my extension and want to check via API if a page exists (external API). I've just tried this but I don't know exactly what should I do now ($pageexistence_data['pages']['...']...): $pageexistence = file_get_contents( $url . $prefix . '/api.php?action=query&format=json&titles=Help:' . $page->page_title ); $pageexistence_data = json_decode( $pageexistence, /*assoc=*/ true ); [11:32:08] Existent page: http://www.wmx-developing.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=Help:Staff&format=json nonexistent page: http://www.wmx-developing.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=Help:Sff&format=json [11:32:51] There's a "missing":"" and "pageid" is not included at nonexistent pages [11:38:45] 03(mod) Enable e-mail notifications for watchlist (EnotifWatchlist) on all small wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28026 +comment (10federicoleva) [11:41:50] 03(mod) login-progress message should be in past tense, not present - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34185 +comment (10post) [11:44:22] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/CreatePage/CreatePage.php: allow for inline display [11:47:51] Hi all. I'm working on my extension and want to check via API if a page exists (external API). I've just tried this but I don't know exactly what should I do now ($pageexistence_data['pages']['...']...): $pageexistence = file_get_contents( $url . $prefix . '/api.php?action=query&format=json&titles=Help:' . $page->page_title ); $pageexistence_data = json_decode( $pageexistence, /*assoc=*/ true ); Existent page: http://www.w [11:47:51] mx-developing.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=Help:Staff&format=json nonexistent page: http://www.wmx-developing.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=Help:Sff&format=json There's a "missing":"" and "pageid" is not included at nonexistent pages [11:52:24] 03(mod) Wikipedia Android app should have a setting to turn off images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33866 +comment (10tfinc) [11:59:41] 03ialex * 10/trunk/extensions/ (8 files in 6 dirs): svn:eol-style native [12:17:30] 03cervidae * 10/trunk/extensions/ReassignEdits/ReassignEdits_body.php: Removed bug-causing and redundant things at $\olduser [12:29:01] 03(mod) first item in the history shows no information about its size - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34198 +comment (10umherirrender_de.wp) [12:32:50] 03(mod) WIkipedia Android app forward button at times does nothing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33280 +comment (10yuvipanda) [12:37:28] Krinkle: You have helped me in the past. I hope you can also help me today :-) I'm working on my extension and want to check via API if a page exists (external API). I've just tried this but I don't know exactly what should I do now ($pageexistence_data['pages']['...']...): $pageexistence = file_get_contents( $url . $prefix . '/api.php?action=query&format=json&titles=Help:' . $page->page_title ); $pageexistence_data = json_decod [12:37:28] e( $pageexistence, /*assoc=*/ true ); Existent page: http://www.wmx-developing.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=Help:Staff&format=json nonexistent page: http://www.wmx-developing.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=Help:Sff&format=json There's a "missing":"" and "pageid" is not included at nonexistent pages [12:38:42] Tim_Weyer: Yes [12:38:50] So looks like you already know [12:38:53] what are you asking ? [12:39:31] Timhttp://www.wmx-developing.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=SomeOddPagename|Help:Staff&format=jsonfm&indexpageids [12:39:33] Tim_Weyer: http://www.wmx-developing.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=SomeOddPagename|Help:Staff&format=jsonfm&indexpageids [12:39:50] (jsonfm = human readable preview, use json in the real request) [12:39:58] I want to check if an external page does exist or not. I've tried it with: $pageexistence = file_get_contents( $url . $prefix . '/api.php?action=query&format=json&titles=Help:' . $page->page_title ); if ( strpos($pageexistence,'missing":"') == false ) { but it didn't work [12:40:10] Tim_Weyer: Do not use strpos [12:40:36] yes, firstly it doesn't work and secondly I think it's the wrong way [12:41:30] how can I check "missing":"" ? [12:41:46] I'm a probie at APIs [12:43:43] No. of commits from the beach today: 1 [12:44:59] Tim_Weyer: http://pastebin.com/B02fBADZ [12:45:09] Tim_Weyer: isset( $page['missing'] ) [12:45:23] Tim_Weyer: I'd recommend using format=php / unserialize() when working in PHP [12:45:31] json work also, no problem [12:45:40] but is more optimized for javascript [12:46:11] json_decode format=json gives you exactly the same as unseralize format=php [12:51:12] I'm trying it all :-) [13:00:30] hi! I wanted to know if registration for mediawiki gsoc 2012 has begun.. [13:20:10] needed help to run mediawiki with eclpise-php [13:27:58] how to register [13:28:10] i need to register my nick name [13:28:21] i'm new to here can anybody help [13:29:06] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/translatewiki/Wikia/extensions.txt: Remove commented out code. [13:32:35] Krinkle: I overlooked your link and applied it now. It does work. Thanks! [13:56:03] 03raymond * 10/trunk/translatewiki/MediaWiki/WikimediaAgg.yaml: Variablepage unused per r110627 [14:00:48] New code comment: Raymond; Setting to FIXME to get a decision which method is better. I want to enable this file on Translatewi; [14:07:16] mysql not working in mediawiki when opened by Eclipse [14:07:21] Someone please help me [14:07:30] i m stuck with this for days :-| [14:14:07] 03siebrand * 10/trunk/translatewiki/Wikia/extensions.txt: Update extension support for Wikia. [14:21:35] 03(mod) Page translation with external link needing CAPTCHA - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34182 (10qbphcqdw) [14:21:35] 03(mod) Can't save text including the protocol https on wikimania2012, translating it into Korean - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34197 (10qbphcqdw) [14:29:41] 03(mod) Can't save text including the protocol https on wikimania2012, translating it into Korean - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34197 (10qbphcqdw) [14:34:03] 03(mod) Gadgets stopped working on enwiki beta and commons beta - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34195 summary; +comment (10Erwin Dokter) [14:36:32] 03jeroendedauw * 10/trunk/extensions/CreatePage/ (COPYING INSTALL README RELEASE-NOTES): added doc files [14:51:11] 03ialex * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/profiler/ProfilerStub.php: Added overrides of logData() and getCurrentSection() in ProfilerStub; just in case. [14:53:45] [14:59:42] 03ialex * 10/trunk/extensions/DumpHTML/dumpHTML.inc: [14:59:42] * Use ProfilerStub instead of a special stub profiler; was throwing E_STRICTs about signature mismatches and isStub() was not returning true [14:59:42] * Pass an empty array to ProfilerSimpleUDP's constructor to not throw E_WARNINGs about missing parameter [14:59:42] * No need to call wfProfileIn( '-total' ); it's already done by the constructor [14:59:43] * Call ProfilerSimpleUDP::logData() to actually log the data; getFunctionReport() doesn't do anything [15:33:23] 03(NEW) Allow filtering action=sitematrix by project code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34199 normal; MediaWiki: API; (danny.b) [15:34:42] 03(NEW) Allow filtering action=sitematrix by language code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34200 normal; MediaWiki: API; (danny.b) [15:40:32] 03(mod) Allow filtering action=sitematrix by language code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34200 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [15:40:33] 03(mod) Non Core API issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23855 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [15:40:39] 03(mod) Allow filtering action=sitematrix by project code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34199 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [15:40:42] 03(mod) Non Core API issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23855 (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [15:42:35] Reedy: what were you playing? [15:43:27] bf3 [15:44:00] Ah [15:44:37] still am actually [15:45:38] 3 sniper kills [15:45:40] go me [15:46:52] lol, and changing bug reports at the same time? :P [15:47:13] indeed [15:47:16] multitask ftw [15:48:38] multimonitor? [15:48:52] 2 machines [15:48:53] 3 screens [15:49:00] i just got knifed [15:49:01] boo [15:49:13] why 2 machines? [15:49:20] desktop and laptop? [15:49:44] yeah [15:49:50] not sure, something i started during my pc rebuild [15:51:00] Hmm, torrent, please hurry up, I'm in the mood to watch some stargate in hd.. :/ [15:51:42] And if by magic, I get a seed at 100kb/s [15:52:31] usenet ftw [15:52:36] ALL THE BANDWITHS [15:53:08] all your bandwidths are belong to us [15:53:21] lol, ok, I'll get usenet for all the seeders... :P [15:54:23] no, you don't have seeders [15:54:29] you have a server with a fuckload of bandwith [15:54:33] i bloody hate this keyboard [15:54:50] ^ #firstworldproblem [15:56:37] another sniper kill [15:56:38] wheeee [15:56:56] * Lcawte spots twitter [15:58:35] Wow, the UK twitter population.. trending currently, Michael Jackson songs, football scores, Lady Gaga, and of course, Justin Bieber jokes.. [15:58:42] more snow [15:59:40] Not more snow, any snow would be nice... [15:59:54] Atleast, just for the week, its half term after that ^.^ [16:03:39] sniper ribbbon :D [16:03:45] Darn... I got my new headset like, last week? And now the right ear piece is broken :/ [16:04:22] Hmm, now, where is that warrenty registration thing.. [16:14:21] hmm, ok, now, do I claim on the warrenty and ask for a new one... hmm [16:15:51] after a week i'd take it back to store of purchase [16:16:15] Any idea where I can find out my local Amazon.co.uk? :P [16:17:07] 2 years manifactorer warenty... with free postage label... (can't spell) [16:18:14] 03(mod) page search check box disappers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33020 +comment (10rahuldeshmukh101) [16:19:36] need 2 more sniper kills [16:19:39] manufacturer [16:20:11] 1 [16:20:30] 03(mod) Please create a Marathi Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33907 +comment (10rahuldeshmukh101) [16:20:48] Yeah, that.. [16:21:08] hi sumanah [16:21:50] hi Nikerabbit [16:22:15] mozilla is having a new wiki for managing localisation better way [16:22:40] link? [16:22:50] * sumanah relaxes by deleting spam comments [16:24:34] no more info [16:24:48] maybe google knows more than me [16:25:25] then how did you learn this? FOSDEM? [16:25:51] in a side note of a presentation [16:27:08] Nikerabbit: maybe you could send a one-line email to the localisation team to follow up? [16:28:14] Nikerabbit: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Special:Version perhaps? [16:29:00] developer.mozilla.org more likely [16:29:11] but if it is not done yet... [16:59:22] sumanah: [16:59:24] sumanah: hey [16:59:29] hi potter [16:59:48] sumanah: can you suggest me good IDE for mediawiki [17:00:10] potter: many of us use NetBeans [17:00:22] potter: I think Reedy might be able to suggest something [17:00:35] potter: many of us use emacs or vim or similar Unix-y text editors [17:01:02] sumanah: i tried eclipse but i m not able to make MW work on it [17:01:07] phpstorm [17:01:51] Reedy: You use phpstorm? [17:03:03] yup [17:03:08] and notepad++/nano [17:04:02] Does any body use Eclipse [17:04:27] not for php [17:04:57] Reedy: oh ok... but i work on linux..phpstorm is on linux? [17:05:16] it's java based, windows, mac os x or linux [17:06:00] i m getting http://dpaste.com/697499/-- error on eclipse - Unable to determine IP.. [17:06:43] It only gets defined at runtime [17:06:56] sumanah: btw can you tell me some Extension which is buggy .. i want something for the weekend [17:07:16] many of them [17:07:30] potter: you can do a bugzilla search [17:07:53] Reedy: many ppl here use phpstorm? cause it will be good if many use..so that if problem comes it can be solevd [17:08:17] potter: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&list_id=84433&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=normal&bug_severity=minor&bug_severity=trivial&product=MediaWiki%20extensions [17:08:23] there's a few of us that do, yes [17:08:49] sumanah: yeah.. but then it must be to a decent level.. i mean i have started [17:08:55] sumanah: recently :) [17:09:28] Reedy: Thanks man [17:09:30] potter: learning to use our Bugzilla will be a helpful thing for you to do -- with a little practice you can structure a query to give you, for example, MediaWiki extensions bugs with the "easy" keyword [17:09:57] 125 bugs: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=easy%2C%20&query_format=advanced&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=84435&product=MediaWiki%20extensions [17:10:12] and then if you click "comp" (short for "component") it'll group them by Extension [17:10:12] sumanah: or we could use a bugtracker that doesn't suck :) [17:10:21] johnduhart: you volunteering to transition us over? [17:10:35] johnduhart: I'm following Theodore Roosevelt's advice [17:10:40] doing what I can where I am with what I have [17:10:45] right now, I'm helping potter [17:10:46] if only it was that simple [17:11:01] Dantman had a project on labs to test other bugtrackers but we need a BZ dump [17:11:09] Reedy: orly? [17:11:42] potter: so, doing that, I see that AbuseFilter, CentralAuth, MobileFrontend, and UploadWizard would be good choices for you to try [17:11:52] not ca [17:11:55] no no no [17:12:04] Reedy: ? [17:12:15] it's not simple to setup [17:12:22] so doing work on it is even harder [17:12:23] potter: Reedy is about to explain why CentralAuth is not one to start with [17:12:33] Those are all pretty complex extensions sumanah. [17:12:52] johnduhart: ok, the traditional "let Sumana answer the question first then correct her" dance is now in its 2nd step [17:13:34] so what do you guys suggest? [17:13:36] * johnduhart looks at the bug list [17:13:52] potter, what extensions have you already tried playing with? [17:14:07] inputboxform [17:14:31] tried wikilove..but couldnt understand [17:14:44] read the simple_extensions_list [17:14:47] thats it [17:14:48] potter, did you already look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/List_of_simple_extensions ? [17:14:49] ok [17:15:00] sumanah: yeah [17:15:13] potter, if you want, you could talk about WikiLove things here, things you didn't understand, and people could help you understand it [17:15:29] at some point learning has to occur :) [17:15:46] sumanah: yeah.. thats right. [17:15:59] sumanah: i did not understand the API usage [17:16:47] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=easy%2C%20&query_format=advanced&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=84441&columnlist=bug_severity%2Cpriority%2Cop_sys%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%2Cresolution%2Cshort_desc%2Ccomponent&resolution=---&product=MediaWiki%20extensions [17:16:55] potter, as you can tell, people like Reedy, johnduhart, JeroenDeDauw, ashley, etc are going to be able to be more helpful than I am in giving you more concrete help [17:17:05] This one has non-completed and a component column [17:17:09] sumanah: and i m facing lots of problems with global function names.. and variables and there are lots of functions [17:17:22] sumanah: so each time i read about any function i go deeper and deeper into the code [17:17:29] sumanah: and then lost.. [17:17:37] sumanah: do you use any IDE? [17:17:49] potter: and then you come here and ask for help! which is the right thing to do! don't give up. [17:18:05] potter, I use gEdit or nano when I write software, which is infrequently [17:18:25] sumanah: yeah..ppl here help..which is very nice cause i did not get help in KDE.so i left it [17:18:29] hi! [17:18:31] johnduhart: I accidentally removed all the Resolved/Resolution parameters, no wonder I got 120+ results rather than 25 [17:18:47] sumanah: what do you develop on ? [17:18:59] potter, I do not work as a software developer. [17:19:11] hi ashley! potter is looking to get into MediaWiki via extensions. is SocialProfile a good entry point? [17:19:30] potter, see the link johnduhart posted a few minutes ago? that might be a good place for you to go [17:19:45] sumanah: yeah.. i am seeing it [17:20:00] potter: when I code at all, it's a little bit of novice JavaScript or Python to learn my way around stuff [17:20:25] SocialProfile is...interesting, but it's not exactly what I'd recommend for a new developer -- its codebase is still not the prettiest and the code logic (or the lack of thereof!) is not too obvious... [17:21:00] ashley: so what do you suggest ? [17:21:29] potter: let me find you some better examples ;-) just a moment [17:21:41] ashley: ok .thanks [17:24:35] potter: you might want to take a look at some of the extensions I've written -- see the list at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Jack_Phoenix/extensions. many of those are simple yet effective and a good way to learn how MediaWiki's internal work, I'd say :-) I'd also recommend checking out the example extensions, in trunk/extensions/examples (IIRC), at least the FourFileTemplate should be in decent shape [17:25:19] ashley: you could suggest me a good IDE also?phpstorm is not free [17:25:26] potter, will you be going to the Pune hackathon and/or the Chennai event? [17:25:49] sumanah: chennai one.. [17:26:05] MW devs have some sorta license for phpStorm, I think...but alas, I don't use any IDEs, I just use Notepad++ and lots and lots of testing [17:26:14] https://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/examples/ [17:26:38] potter: http://wikimedia.7.n6.nabble.com/Fwd-Mediawiki-l-JetBrains-PHPStorm-License-for-MediaWiki-Developers-td804531.html in case you want a free phpStorm license [17:27:00] potter: Reedy can get it to you [17:27:07] its got a free trial to begin with [17:27:07] ashley: then how do me mange to know about functions and variables [17:27:25] http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/LockDownEnglishPages/LockDownEnglishPages.php?revision=106136&view=markup & http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Quantcast/Quantcast.php?revision=106136&view=markup are two really basic hook extensions that I've written -- simple but effective :-) [17:28:11] potter: I've managed just fine without an IDE, but then again I've been around for a while...but there are some online docs, generated from source code comments at svn.wikimedia.org/docs (IIRC) and then there's the on-wiki documentation on MediaWiki.org [17:28:14] ashley: then how do me mange to know about functions and variables ? [17:28:50] ashley: i tried them..but then i guess that i must be patient enought to go trhough them :) [17:29:45] ashley: you have writeten sixteen exentions. Which was has some bugs? [17:29:55] patience (or alternatively, an alcoholic beverage of your choice ;-) is the key to MediaWiki development [17:29:59] potter: let's see... [17:30:19] ashley: lol [17:32:37] most of my own, totally (or mostly) original extensions -- the 16 you refer to -- are rather simple and thus I can't think of any (major) bugs in them, or any reported bugs at all...some of the extensions, especially the social tools, that I've contributed to have bugs, but since those bugs give me a headache, I'd rather not confuse you with those :-) [17:32:58] then again you could try making http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ShoutWiki_Ads suck a bit less and/or maybe adding a new ad provider or two to it, since right now it supports only Google AdSense [17:34:22] ashley: What other ad services could you add? :P [17:34:38] potter: if you know some JavaScript, maybe you could try your hand with http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AJAX_Poll ? its codebase should be improved (i.e. class-based approach instead of global functions, ResourceLoader support instead of nasty inline JS...) [17:34:52] Lcawte: I'm sure that there are some non-Big Brother powered ones out there [17:35:34] ashley: i just know Javascript.. but i have no excellency with it? [17:37:29] bye for the day! [17:37:30] 03(mod) Please create a Marathi Wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33907 +comment (10sam) [17:37:43] ashley: ok thanks a lot..but you have given so many stuff that i m confused now ! so can you tell me where to start off(i have complete weekend) [17:37:59] 03(mod) Allow filtering action=sitematrix by project code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34199 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [17:37:59] 03(mod) Allow filtering action=sitematrix by language code - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34200 normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy)) [17:39:28] ashley: there ? [17:40:03] potter: yes, I was browsing MW.org and looking for some useful links for you and thinking of extensions with known bugs [17:40:19] ashley: ok :) [17:40:45] something I personally think is a great way of familiarizing yourself with MediaWiki and its internals is fixing a Wikia or wikiHow extension -- those two big sites have written some *awesome* MW extensions that unfortunately rely on their custom modifications to function properly...but since both sites release their code publicly, that's not much of an issue for a capable dev :) [17:41:01] (now Lcawte can tell just how wrong I am :P) [17:41:52] HMm, maybe... [17:43:24] That reminds me, I need to finish that cloakcheck patch don't I.. [17:47:58] something that would probably be rather rewarding would be to fix a bug in one of the many, many extensions used by Wikimedia wikis (excluding CentralAuth and whatever other royal clusterfucks there are) [17:48:06] ashley: can i ask you doubts on the extension and hooks ..when i dont understand them? [17:48:32] potter: you might want to read http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks for an overview of hooks [17:48:32] ashley: or i dont understand the logic [17:48:51] ashley: i was on that page only :) [17:48:56] basically, hooks allow you to insert code into core files without actually having to edit core files [17:49:14] (that's probably not 100% accurate description, but it's how I like to think of it) [17:49:48] ashley: yeah even i have the same type of idea for hooks [17:52:44] potter: if you haven't checked out the example extensions yet, I'd suggest that you do: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/examples/ -- they're very bare-bones versions of extensions; for example, there are many special page extensions (extensions that add new special pages); FourFileTemplate is a basic special page that demonstrates how to add a new special page from an extension without performing any magic in it [17:53:39] ashley: ok i'll look into these also [17:54:57] ashley: doubt1 - what is NS_MEDIAWIKI ?you have used -- $title->getNamespace() == NS_MEDIAWIKI [17:56:39] it's a namespace constant, defined in includes/Defines.php -- it refers to the MediaWiki: namespace on the wiki, which allows to edit the wiki interface (to a degree) on-wiki; see [[manual:system message]] on MediaWiki.org for details about the MediaWiki: namespace [17:57:32] ashley: ok dude [17:59:20] * Dantman wants to replace that [18:00:20] ashley, potter: Btw, if your extension is 1.19+ the new preferred pattern is $title->isNamespace( NS_MEDIAWIKI ); [18:00:39] ashley, potter: Sorry, I mean $title->inNamespace( NS_MEDIAWIKI ); [18:01:11] Dantman: I'm far from being 1.19 and so are my extensions...I haven't even fixed all the breakages caused by ResourceLoader yet... [18:01:52] * Dantman wants to make NS_ constants disappear. [18:02:26] Dantman: why? [18:02:48] vvv: Because they have to have hardcoded integers [18:03:05] And you do not like hardcoded namespace numbers? [18:03:35] vvv: The plan forward is a namespace registration system that will allow new namespaces for extensions, etc... to be dynamically registered [18:03:36] Dantman: remember, we expose that stuff to users [18:03:58] In templates [18:04:09] $wgMessageCache->addMessages($dfgLang->getLanguageArray(), $wgLang->getCode()); [18:04:13] oops [18:04:33]