[00:03:08] 03(mod) Add css class for user status to body tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34413 +comment (10brion) [00:03:15] hey ^demon, did you push those git repo notes with the svn revision ids? [00:05:15] 03(mod) WikiEditor should use defaults closer to WikiMedia's setup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34410 +comment (10brion) [00:06:32] New code comment: Reedy; I never said it was good ;); [00:09:18] 03(mod) MobileFrontend's expandable sections should be pure-JS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34422 +comment (10brion) [00:10:58] 03(mod) IE8 error: 'mw.user.options' is null on test2wiki (1.19) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34409 +comment (10Ian Baker) [00:12:24] I hope somebody help with a question concerning the deletion of articles: In the 'page' table there is a field 'page_is_redirect', but in the archive table there is not. Is there any way to know whether a deleted page was indeed a redirect or not? Any help is much appreciated, thanks! [00:13:28] You can checck the page text of the referenced text ID in the archive table. [00:13:44] Other than that, no, there's no real way to know. Tracking redirect status of pages that don't exist is a very limited use-case. :-) [00:14:02] 03(mod) Add css class for user status to body tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34413 +comment (10Daniel Friesen) [00:14:44] page_is_redirect was just an optimization [00:15:42] I was afraid that this was the case. Outside analytics there is indeed only a limited use case to be made :) [00:16:05] 03(mod) WikiEditor should use defaults closer to WikiMedia's setup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34410 +comment (10mediawiki-bugs) [00:16:40] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12509 is so frustrating. [00:16:54] > rememberthedot, are you interested in revising this patch to work with current [00:16:57] trunk? Thanks! [00:17:03] Three years later... [00:19:09] Thanks a lot for the info. [00:19:35] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34413 [00:19:40] I'm almost positive that's a dupe. [00:21:58] <^demon> !b 13242 | Joan [00:21:58] Joan: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13242 [00:22:50] ^demon: :D [00:23:01] ^demon: Do you want to mark it as a dupe? [00:23:21] I still think there's another bug floating out there... I know I discussed this idea with Splarka. [00:24:12] <^demon> Joan: I'm busy doing homework, go wild. [00:24:21] pgehres: when are you planning on finishing work? [00:24:28] slash Ryan_Lane slash K4-713 [00:24:41] meh, who knows [00:24:42] Joan: whatever happened to splarka [00:25:22] werdna: Somewhere between 5:30 and 6? [00:25:36] WebDawg: who else is coming with us? [00:25:40] bah [00:25:48] WebDawg: wrong person ;) [00:25:52] werdna: ^^ [00:26:00] At the moment it's you me Katie Jami (when she finishes a meeting at 8), pgehres, maybe james alexander? [00:26:03] we wanted to invite sue [00:26:11] but she's in paris [00:26:31] I think leslie is busy being a d&d nerd, kaldari might be interested [00:26:48] we should have this conversation not in #mediawiki [00:27:03] heh [00:34:16] 03(NEW) PHP version of DiffHistoryBlob::patch() computes incorrect base text checksum - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34428 normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (tstarling) [00:35:11] 03nad * 10/trunk/extensions/TreeAndMenu/ (TreeAndMenu.php star.js): close any open sibling star node when opening another [00:36:02] 03tstarling * 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/includes/HistoryBlob.php: Temporary patch for bug 34428 [00:36:51] hi! [00:37:12] one question: is it possible to directly link a picture to a site instead of the image itself? [00:37:57] for example i have [[File:Logo.png|left]] - and that shouldnt link to logo.png, it should link to a page called "Logo" [00:39:21] 03(mod) multi file selection with FF10 fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34333 +comment (10Rainer@Rillke.eu) [00:41:12] Flexmaen: |link=Logo [00:44:23] p858snake|l: thank you! [00:46:49] how often so the small special pages (eg:WantedCategories) update on mw wiki? [00:47:52] *are the small [00:51:21] 03tstarling * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/HistoryBlob.php: Temp patch for bug 34428, merged from 1.19wmf1 r111602 [00:52:20] 03mah * 10/trunk/extensions/UploadWizard/resources/mw.fileApi.js: [00:52:20] Fixes Bug 34333 - multi file selection with FF10 fails [00:52:20] Patch from Rainer [00:53:05] 03(FIXED) multi file selection with FF10 fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34333 +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger) [00:54:37] 03reedy * 10/trunk/phase3/ (10 files in 3 dirs): Fix user related direct member variable access [01:08:32] Would anybody be able to help me diagnose this issue, im working with the OpenID extension. Whenever I try and login I get a Verification error (an error occured during verification of the OpenID URL). I checked the server logs and I have [Thu Feb 16 00:48:42 2012] [error] [client xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] Successfully fetched 'https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id': GET response code 200, referer: [01:08:32] http://mydomainname/wiki/index.php?title=Special:OpenIDLogin&returnto=Special:OpenIDLogin [01:26:26] hmm it looks like that "let users mark new pages as minor" didn't get into 1.19 or maybe that was still at bug stage [01:26:42] 03tstarling * 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/WikimediaMessages/WikimediaLicenseTexts.i18n.php: Remove everything except english from WikimediaLicenseTexts.i18n.php, to avoid OOM [01:33:42] Dantman is too slow [01:34:17] jeremyb: ;) Except you didn't read between the lines [01:34:49] Dantman: huh? (maybe i'm still not?) [01:36:01] jeremyb: Jidanni (in all his usual trollyness) was not asking how to clean out the .git/ directory, but how to convert a svn checkout into a git repo [01:46:16] 03(mod) Edit conflicts with yourself are not detected when doing no section edit - inconsistent behavior - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34423 +comment (10saibotrash) [01:57:09] Interesting diff highliting in CR [02:01:16] 03reedy * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/parser/CoreParserFunctions.php: Add missing wfProfileOut( __METHOD__ ); [02:03:51] 03aaron * 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/includes/parser/CoreParserFunctions.php: Fixed profiling calls [02:05:53] 03reedy * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/filerepo/backend/FileBackend.php: Bad Aaron [02:10:58] 03reedy * 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/includes/filerepo/backend/FileBackend.php: r111609 to 1.18wmf1 [02:16:57] 03(NEW) UserLogout doesn't have returnto links on in text login button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34429 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (p858snake) [02:17:40] 03(mod) UserLogout doesn't have returnto links on in text login button - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34429 +comment (10p858snake) [02:17:46] 03(mod) UserLogout doesn't have returnto links on in text login link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34429 summary (10p858snake) [02:35:04] 03reedy * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/cache/FileCacheBase.php: [02:35:04] Add missing > [02:35:04] Ping r111324 [02:35:54] 03reedy * 10/trunk/phase3/ (6 files in 5 dirs): Cleanup a few unused globals [02:44:38] 03reedy * 10/trunk/phase3/tests/ (TestsAutoLoader.php testHelpers.inc): [02:44:38] Add NewParserTest to TestsAutoLoader.php [02:44:38] Fix undefined variable in testHelpers.inc [02:48:36] 03aaron * 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/Translate/TranslateHooks.php: live hack to deal with 500s on log/RC views [02:52:15] 03reedy * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Xml.php: [02:52:15] Followup r107002 [02:52:15] Add a TODO to do this via hook or similar [02:52:52] 03reedy * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/actions/HistoryAction.php: Make wfProfileOut call be the last thing before the return [02:56:44] Reedy: can you revert r111605 for now? [02:56:51] unless it is fixing fatals or something [02:57:10] 03(NEW) MyISAM warning even if you don't get to choose - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34430 normal; MediaWiki: Installation; (rkaldari) [03:01:10] 03(NEW) Old edit bar flashes before new edit bar shows up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34431 normal; MediaWiki: Page editing; (robla) [03:01:20] 03(mod) Old edit bar flashes before new edit bar shows up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34431 (10Rob Lanphier) [03:06:13] 14(WFM) importScript, importScriptURI, and addPortletLink errors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34147 +comment (10Rob Lanphier) [03:25:06] 03(NEW) Undo buttons only being displayed next to diffs without edit summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34432 normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (yyairrand) [03:41:56] 03tstarling * 10/trunk/udpprofile/ (Makefile collector.c): [03:41:56] * Automatically aggregate results into an "all/-" DB/host [03:41:56] * Initialise the addrlen argument to accept() correctly, as documented in the Linux man page [03:41:57] * Use LDLIBS instead of LDFLAGS for -ldb, since that puts the -ldb near the end of the command line, which makes it not break in recent versions of gcc. [03:45:14] 03(mod) Add css class for user status to body tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34413 +comment (10MZMcBride) [04:02:52] Will $wgEmailConfirmToEdit affect logged out users? [04:04:12] Try and see? [04:04:23] You should probably be explicit about anons with $wgGroupPermissions. [04:04:41] It may or may not work. Or it may partially work. Best just to specify, if you don't want anons editing. [04:08:38] 03tstarling * 10/trunk/udpprofile/ (Makefile debian/changelog export.c): [04:08:38] * Instantiate the "db" global variable in the normal way, instead of attempting [04:08:38] to compile a header file, which just makes gcc generate a pre-compiled header [04:08:39] (*.gch). Presumably that's not what was intended, and it causes a fatal error in [04:08:40] my lucid chroot due to some detail. [04:08:41] * Updated changelog. [04:25:17] 03tstarling * 10/trunk/udpprofile/ (collector.c debian/changelog): Aggregate stats separately to profiling [04:37:33] 03(NEW) hieroglyph images ( tag) missing from generated PDFs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34433 normal; MediaWiki extensions: PdfHandler; (joe_pocari) [04:40:07] I think that's a dupe. [04:41:39] Hmm, maybe not. I feel like there should be a generic "PDF rendering/generation fucks this up". [04:41:43] 03(mod) hieroglyph images ( tag) missing from generated PDFs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34433 (10p858snake) [04:42:24] Joan: collection needs to whitelist tags, but I wouldn't be surprised if its dup [04:42:28] it'd be pretty surprising if it did work [04:42:49] Would it? I would think PDF generation would be the equivalent of printing to PDF on your local machine. [04:42:58] In theory, at least. [04:43:55] p858snake|l: Between all the edge cases (, , etc.), I think they all just feel like dupes. [04:44:39] Would it? Should it? Care about it? [04:45:24] Are you repeating an ad campaign? Otherwise, I'm not sure what you're asking. [04:46:23] I was implying that your would it, could easily be a should it... and well the care about it statement speaks for itself [04:46:47] You think PDFs should have broken hiero support? :-) [04:46:48] Joan: I mean, knowing how PDF generation works, it'd be pretty surprising [04:47:07] PDF is dark magic. [04:47:52] I know how to generate them and how to somehwat break them apart, but I don't know what Collection does. [04:48:04] It's mostly maintained by PediaPress, I think. Or, err, "maintained." [04:48:40] 03santhosh * 10/trunk/extensions/WebFonts/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [04:48:40] Add Jomolhari font for Dzongkha(dz) [04:48:40] Fix Bug 33718 [04:49:35] they have their own parser [04:49:59] need I say more? [04:50:28] Heh. :-) [04:50:54] I was just skimming http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/Collection/Collection.body.php?revision=110205&view=markup [04:51:19] $wgOut->addWikiText( '{{:' . $title_string . '}}' ); feels like a hack, but I don't know enough about MediaWiki/PHP to know for sure. [04:52:00] 03(ASSIGNED) add support for Dzongkha / Tibetan script - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33718 +i18n; +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal) [04:56:49] Joan: That is only half the system :p there is two parts to making that extension to work [04:57:11] 03(FIXED) About screen in the Android app is not properly oriented in right-to-left languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34167 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [04:59:12] 03(mod) Nightly builds should pull only from Master - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33948 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [04:59:12] 03(mod) Android app v1.1 tracker - features - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33957 (10Yuvi Panda) [04:59:50] =( Fair Use files on mw wiki [05:01:55] what's wrong with that? [05:03:35] never been the biggest fan, But at least the ones I know about have the licensing stuff done [05:04:29] 03aaron * 10/trunk/phase3/includes/cache/MessageCache.php: Fixed bogus call to method on a string [05:12:17] one week till telstra comes and tells me what is wrong (again) and I can have decent web speeds again [05:17:23] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Ottomata#Contributing_to_this_wiki [05:17:50] Every Wikimedia staffer should be given a copy of that post at orientation. [05:43:42] 03santhosh * 10/trunk/extensions/WebFonts/fonts/Tibt/Jomolhari.woff: Follow up r111620. Change mime type of WOFF fonts. [06:06:39] Dantman: are you a Database.php expert ? [06:06:52] Relatively very, sure. [06:07:13] Well, I started to debug and to maintain E:AJAXPoll . Can you tell me this: [06:07:35] in https://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/AJAXPoll/AJAXPoll.php?annotate=111577 the author had used $dbw->addQuotes( $user ) [06:07:39] on many places. [06:07:54] I observed, that db wrappers are used [06:08:01] I think, the addQuotes is not needed [06:08:11] ^_^ Very not needed [06:08:13] (except for compatibility with existing database entry - [06:08:18] entries) [06:08:41] Are you sure, I can drop the addQuotes() ? [06:08:51] Yes [06:08:52] (I am) [06:08:54] ok [06:09:03] in 'foo' => 'bar' the value is implicitly quoted [06:09:19] So that's like saying $db->addQuotes( $db->addQuotes( 'bar' ) ) [06:09:27] yep [06:09:34] that's we I know, too [06:09:39] Just wanted to be sure [06:10:03] Which naturally will land you with foo = '\'bar\'' leading to "'bar'" coming out [06:10:05] (the current database has entries like 'Wikinaut' or 'foo' ---- with the quotes... [06:10:34] perhaps I write an updater module, later [06:11:20] The Extension is short. Perhaps you can have a look, what I can change or improve? Pls. let me know. https://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/AJAXPoll/AJAXPoll.php?annotate=111577 [06:11:30] It _is_ working almost perfectly [06:11:55] ToDo: a SPecialPage for Poll and poll_tables maintainance [06:11:56] for admins [06:12:21] (list all polls, close a poll, delete a poll. This is easy) [06:12:26] And while you're at it fix "poll_answer='{$answer}'", [06:13:15] and this one if ( isset( $r[0] ) && ( $r[0] - 1 == $i ) ) { [06:13:16] 325 ashley 99364 $our = true; [06:13:18] 326 } else { [06:13:20] 327 $our = false; [06:13:22] in one line [06:13:27] This guy uses => all over the place with unwanted extra addQuotes, and then goes and does a raw strencode on a plain = [06:13:35] The inline javascript => use jquery [06:13:56] Oh now this is REAL fun [06:13:58] brb [06:18:02] He uses $answer = $dbw->strencode( ++$answer ); [06:18:13] And then in one possible query he uses "poll_answer='{$answer}'", [06:18:24] And in another 'poll_answer' => $answer, [06:21:39] What's the purpose of the extension? Different than SecurePoll? [06:22:00] Hmm, simpler form, looks like. [06:26:10] ashley is still around usally if you want to work on it with him [06:28:00] 03wikinaut * 10/trunk/extensions/AJAXPoll/ (AJAXPoll.css AJAXPoll.php): [06:28:00] removing unnecessary db->addQuotes() wrappers as the extension uses standard [06:28:00] select,update wrappers (usernames were added with quotes in the database). [06:28:00] Breaking compatibility with older database entries of older polls. (this could [06:28:01] be supplied in a one-time run of an updater (ToDo)). removing spaces in [06:28:02] javascript inline. Declaring myself as maintainer of the extension. [06:28:11] Dantman: ^ [06:28:56] Line numbers in CR? Fancy. [06:29:48] 03wikinaut * 10/trunk/extensions/AJAXPoll/AJAXPoll.css: follow-up r111623 . adding a newline [06:31:51] 03(NEW) JavaScript error in ext.wikiEditor.toolbar.hideSig - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34434 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikiEditor; (niklas.laxstrom) [06:36:39] uh [06:36:48] why is the code review diff style changed? [06:38:05] because it's 1.19 [06:38:17] ah, so mw.org is now updated [06:38:24] yep [06:38:31] what do you think about $namespaceNames changes? [06:39:07] previously we've had complaints about $namespaceNames changing without community consensus on the relevant wikipedia [06:39:14] well, they change at times, but we try to make the changes not to break anything [06:39:35] I think in 1.18 we had a couple of emergency reverts [06:40:09] if a namespace changes then you lose access to pages in the conflicting pseudo-namespace [06:40:33] so it's necessary to run maintenance/namespaceDupes.php on all wikis in that content language [06:40:39] yes [06:40:58] so this is why I'm telling Chris that we need to find all the changes and revert them [06:41:20] I'm leaning towards reverting them in the 1.19wmf1 branch alone to start with [06:41:24] but the question is: what then? [06:41:41] Joan: yes, AJAXPoll is very simple, ultra quick and a solution not or all, but many small problems... [06:41:59] what's a good ongoing procedure for changing namespaces in mediawiki and how do we manage upgrades? [06:42:17] do we merge these reverts into trunk? [06:42:20] Joan: Dantman : see screenshot in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AJAX_Poll#Usage [06:42:21] some of the changes were already merged in 1.18wmf1 [06:42:42] well, that's why I told Chris to compare 1.18wmf1 with 1.19wmf1 [06:43:03] from wikipedia's point of view, the best time to do a namespace change is in response to a shell bug [06:43:03] right [06:43:20] with community consensus shown [06:43:24] but not all changes come from shell bugs [06:43:36] but presumably the rest of the world has to get translated namespaces at some point [06:44:40] One of these days we'll have a beautiful namespace management system. [06:45:02] I don't think that would solve this [06:45:16] Which issue? [06:45:36] 03wikinaut * 10/USERINFO/wikinaut: upd my USERINFO +AJAXPoll [06:45:42] are namespaceNames changes handled specially on twn? [06:47:06] TimStarling: yes, siebrand is supposed to look very carefully on export that nothing breaks and adds aliases manually [06:47:25] the translation itself happens in not so well known special page, but translators can go there anytime they want [06:49:32] do you think it would be possible to require the translator to get consensus from wikipedia before they edit the namespace on TWN? [06:50:43] personally I think that would be stupid: big wikipedias would just disagree on everything and small wikipedias would not respond... and translators usually are part of the community after all [06:51:40] but if we exported those changes more often, we could make our outreach person to announce those changes to relevant wikipedias, and if they complain do something before it gets deployed [06:52:53] or just have an automated way to warn on change (w/ e.g. 15-30 days notice?) and put the burden on the wiki to file a shell bug to override [06:53:16] * jeremyb sleeps [06:54:35] it looks like a lot of the changes may have come from r107309 [06:55:19] which was just marked deferred instead of being properly reviewed despite the massive breakage it causes [06:56:49] hmm, we should do the exports more often I guess [06:59:13] it looks like he mostly made sure the aliases were there, but for qug they're missing [06:59:35] namespaces from the fallback language don't automatically become aliases do they? [07:00:30] $l = > $l = Language::factory('qug'); [07:00:30] > print $l->getNsIndex('Sapak'); [07:00:30] -1 [07:00:31] > print $l->getNsIndex('Sapaq'); [07:00:31] > [07:01:34] hmph [07:01:58] that's kind of nasty, we have the same issue with namespaceGenderAliases [07:09:42] yeah, r107309 is it, the rest of the changes that Chris flagged are things like new or stubbed out files [07:11:34] Nikerabbit: ;) That's why I mentioned the namespace manager. [07:12:38] lo [07:12:43] LocalisationCache can handle things like that if need be [07:13:21] hi freakolowsky [07:13:30] lo [07:13:58] hey that guy that has intallation problems on Oracle ... has he been on irc? [07:15:03] I haven't been watching the channel that closely [07:15:19] Not that i've have noticed [07:40:13] 03(mod) URLs with semantic property of type URL comes out with http:////... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34044 +comment (10Gregor Hagedorn) [07:43:36] Is this a good place to ask about using the Mediawiki parser.php? [07:46:41] as good as any [07:49:05] huh. i didn't notice was split out of core into extension in 1.18 until a user complained [07:50:46] I'm trying to convert Wiki to HTML as quickly and painlessly as possible, there are 20+ "alternatives" on the wiki help page, but I guess they're alternatives to the official Parser.php? Can I use this standalone without having to get an entire mediawiki instance running? [07:52:02] I've tried 5 or 6 of the alternatives and they break for a variety of issues - doubly-nested templates, non-English text, or they output junk I don't need.. [07:59:52] 03wikinaut * 10/trunk/extensions/AJAXPoll/ (AJAXPoll.css AJAXPoll.php): [07:59:52] first step going jquery. changed all id and class names to be in conformity with [07:59:52] css coding conventions lower-and-dashes. To-Do: more jQuery and refactoring [07:59:53] html/jquery source code layout. (this version of the extension is working of [07:59:54] course) [08:06:27] Is it possible to get the current page link into the sidebar so I can suffix it? For instance, if on Main_Page I want to make a usable link to Main_Page_hello in the sidebar or Other_Page_hello. [08:07:59] maybe some macro or meta wiki syntax? [08:09:47] Aha {{subst:FULLPAGENAME}} [08:13:05] Nope. That's not it. [08:30:24] 03siebrand * 10/branches/jsgrammar/: [08:30:24] Branch for work on bug 33658 - Add support for {{GRAMMAR:}} to the mediawiki.jqueryMsg module. [08:30:24] This will also contain an implementation of existing PHP grammar classes and tests. [08:30:25] Created a branch so we will not have to maintain patches in bugzilla and can work in CodeReview. [08:30:30] 03(mod) Oracle installer throw SET CONSTRAINTS ALL DEFERRED PL/SQL error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34280 +comment (10freak) [08:32:08] 03(NEW) Double subject line in emails sent from MediaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34435 normal; MediaWiki: Email; (ThomasBleher) [08:32:37] siebrand: if you ask demon, I'm pretty sure hes letting people start in git if they want [08:32:47] 03(NEW) mwdocgen.php: rewrite to extends Maintenance class - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34436 normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (hashar) [08:32:53] 03(mod) mwdocgen.php: rewrite to extends Maintenance class - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34436 normal->minor (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [08:32:57] (so they aren't in svn limbo for like ~2weeks) [08:34:00] there are no words to express how i hate it when nagios drops an A-Bomb of an alert and after x*10min of panic it turns out to be a false alarm [08:36:40] 03hashar * 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/mwdocgen.php: [08:36:41] always have $wgDoxyGenerateMan defined [08:36:41] r101807 introduced a new variable which was not always defined. [08:38:09] 03(mod) "Error parsing XML and HTML for RSS" - improve and harden Extension:RSS when parsing differently flavoured RSS feeds - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30028 +comment (10T. Gries) [08:38:55] I'm using 1.18.1, basically a lot of documentation seems to new to apply. Is there a 1.18 only doc or should I get the 1.5? I'm [08:39:26] I dont have a sysop group, for instance. [08:39:53] Instead I have administrators, which isn't even in the manual. [08:40:20] the group administrator is internal denoted as sysop [08:40:22] It was most likely renamed locally [08:40:42] I just installed and tried, haven't changed anything manually yet. [08:41:45] So, I should just Administrators instead of sysop? [08:42:18] verb? [08:42:44] hello [08:42:51] Nikerabbit: *use :) [08:42:56] I don't get anything from the manual tbh [08:43:04] Nothing seems to correspond to what I've actually got after a default install. [08:43:58] 03(NEW) Multiple warnings running MobileFrontend in a FastCGI environment and with active 'safe mode' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34437 normal; MediaWiki extensions: MobileFrontend; (jukey) [08:44:02] 03(mod) Add support for {{GRAMMAR:}} to the mediawiki.jqueryMsg module - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33658 +comment (10s.mazeland) [08:44:13] Added delete and bigdelete permissions to my sysop group (tried administrator as well), but I don't get any delete tab described in the manual [08:44:48] besides, it should be default for sysop. [08:44:57] but I can't put my user in any group named sysop, it doesn't exist [08:46:22] hang on there it is [08:47:02] 03(VERIFIED) Blank page after activating MobileFrontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34388 +comment (10Uwe Kaminski) [08:56:11] 03(mod) Blank page after activating MobileFrontend - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34388 +comment (10hashar) [08:57:18] New code comment: Nikerabbit; Mixed tabs and spaced in SemanticMediaWiki.hooks.php \ Typos: internationalizationfor, + * @ingroup E; [08:57:48] New code comment: Nikerabbit; Typo: internationalizationfor \ License?; [09:04:37] 03(NEW) Show hostname for each IP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34438 normal; MediaWiki extensions: CheckUser; (feloose) [09:06:33] New code comment: Hashar;
\ Flawless USERINFO commit! \ \ [[File:US Navy 080813-N-7544A-161 U.S. Navy Mass Co; [09:06:47] 03(mod) Multiple warnings running MobileFrontend in a FastCGI environment and with active 'safe mode' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34437 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [09:08:18] New code comment: Hashar; Also asked to have the ALN (Gheg Albanian) equivalent https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id; [09:14:18] New code comment: Hashar; I would prefer having that in CSS. Can't you add an id and a CSS rule for the test form?; [09:17:21] 03(mod) Multiple warnings running MobileFrontend in a FastCGI environment and with active 'safe mode' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34437 +comment (10hashar) [09:19:17] New code comment: Hashar; # *.cache.pol.co.uk \ -webcacheh01a.cache.pol.co.uk. \ -webcacheh02a.cache.pol.co.uk. \ +webcacheh01a.; [09:19:36] ohhh [09:19:39] those are really olds [09:19:47] New code comment: Hashar; dots added with r111528; [09:22:38] 03(NEW) While Using English interface, Namespace in dropdown must use English equivalents. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34439 normal; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (srik.lak) [09:31:02] 03santhosh * 10/branches/jsgrammar/resources/mediawiki/ (mediawiki.jqueryMsg.js mediawiki.jqueryMsg.peg): [09:31:02] Add support for templates without replacements in mediawiki.jqueryMsg [09:31:03] Ref: Bug 33653 [09:36:00] How come {{BASEPAGENAME}} contains the subpage? [09:36:04] 03(mod) MobileFrontend's expandable sections should be pure-JS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34422 +comment (10maxsem.wiki) [09:36:50] If I have the page Main_Page/sv, how can I get just the Main_Page part? [09:40:15] Which captcha is the best one? I keep getting bots through using confirmedit [09:40:46] Coke: {{BASEPAGENAME:page name}} Example/Test Parent page of the specified page, in namespaces supporting subpage [09:40:55] !spam | benjick [09:40:55] benjick: For information about combating and handling spam in MediaWiki, see and . [09:41:58] tale: thank you [09:43:13] 03(NEW) wmf-config/swift.php error on upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34440 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (hashar) [09:43:23] tale: I don't understand. [09:43:34] tale: I want the page name without subpage [09:45:52] How can I get the page name without the /en or /sv subpage? [09:46:48] Coke, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Page_names [09:47:05] MaxSem: I'm looking at it, it's incorrect [09:47:18] I use {{BASEPAGENAME}} on Main_Page/sv and still get the /sv [09:48:24] you need to enable subpages for that namespace [09:50:07] Coke: try #titleparts magic word [09:50:10] 03(mod) wmf-config/swift.php error on upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34440 +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso) [09:51:11] MaxSem: what do you mean? my page already has a subpage [09:51:24] Nikerabbit: according to the manual BASEPAGENAME should work [09:51:27] it just doesn't [09:51:29] did we get many bug reports after the first wave of deployments? [09:51:59] Coke, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgNamespacesWithSubpages [09:52:06] Coke: mediawiki doesn't always treat / as subpage, it depends on the configuration [09:52:22] MaxSem: /last (NEW) ? [09:53:02] New code comment: Hashar; 1.19 release note added with r111539; [09:53:22] 03(mod) While Using English interface, Namespace in dropdown must use English equivalents. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34439 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [09:53:48] $wgNamespacesWithSubpages[NS_MAIN] = true; <- yay [09:53:51] Thanks! [09:54:24] Is there no moderator role in mediawiki? [09:54:32] Hello, could someone help me? I just followed this guide and am running into a problem: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL [09:56:32] New code comment: Siebrand; You may be missing a JS dependency, and possibly need to use another method so that the magic words ; [09:58:54] benjick: I think the FlaggedRevs extension might do that http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:FlaggedRevs [09:59:23] benjick: we have it in use on MediaWiki.org [09:59:27] 03(mod) While Using English interface, Namespace in dropdown must use English equivalents. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34439 +comment (10srik.lak) [10:00:52] 03(mod) While Using English interface, Namespace in dropdown must use English equivalents. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34439 +comment (10niklas.laxstrom) [10:03:49] 03amire80 * 10/trunk/extensions/Narayam/resources/ext.narayam.rules.pa.js: Removed unused characters and added tippi and addak, according to feedback from Pune Hackathon participants and Red Hat. [10:06:34] Is it possible to disable the translation of the page names like Main_Page and About ? [10:08:01] 03(mod) While Using English interface, Namespace in dropdown must use English equivalents. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34439 +comment (10srik.lak) [10:08:13] 03(mod) URLs with semantic property of type URL comes out with http:////... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34044 +comment (10mediawiki) [10:08:48] New code comment: Platonides; function &singleton() \ This is PHP 5, that reference would be only needed if you wanted to make $ins; [10:18:12] Coke, ??? [10:18:47] New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; ref removed in r111558 \ > Use $this->className = new EPOrgs ? \ Man, this is why we should switch to; [10:19:02] New code comment: SPQRobin; There is an id for the test form, that's not the problem, but it is generally preferred to define di; [10:20:17] New code comment: Siebrand; * {{messagedocumentation}} \ * dont use title case, please; [10:20:47] New code comment: Siebrand; Looks like the followed-up rev is incorrect; [10:22:02] New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; yeah, should be r111468; [10:22:28] freakolowsky: congrats on reproducing the SET CONTRAINTS ALL DEFERRED error bug (34280 ) [10:22:36] freakolowsky: good luck on fixing it 8-) [10:34:33] New code comment: Hashar; Which totally make sense :-); [10:34:48] New code comment: Hashar; Tagging for 1.18wmf1, 1.19wmf1 since it fix the annoying bug 34297; [10:36:33] New code comment: Siebrand; {{messagedocumentation}}; [10:39:55] 03(FIXED) Users should be given a visual indicator when the list of Wikipedias is being downloaded which takes some time. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32903 +comment (10Yuvi Panda) [10:44:36] 03petrb * 10/trunk/extensions/OnlineStatusBar/OnlineStatusBar.php: updated the wrong name after move of js [10:46:03] New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; Got rid of the static keyword and am now using get_called_class on 5.3 or later installs and falling; [10:46:49] 14(DUP) Double subject line in emails sent from MediaWiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34435 +comment (10Max Semenik) [10:46:55] 03(mod) mutiple headers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34421 +comment (10Max Semenik) [10:52:17] New code comment: Aaron Schulz; You can't just give a Context object (perhaps from outputpage)?; [10:56:03] New code comment: IAlex; And please don't pass such objects by reference.; [10:56:18] New code comment: Dantman; EditPage::showEditForm:fields already gives an OutputPage. OutputPage is also the thing that is most; [10:56:33] New code comment: Catrope;
 \ + unlink( $this->tmpFileName ); \ 
\ Does unlink() gracefully handle nonexistent file name; [10:56:33] New code comment: Dantman; EditPage::showEditForm:fields was already using references, I'm just matching it. I did remove the &; [10:57:02] New code comment: Reedy; No... \
 \ reedy@ubuntu64-web-esxi:~$ php test.php \ PHP Warning: unlink(foobarfile.php): No such f; 
[10:58:18] 	 New code comment: Catrope; Never mind, per IRC convo this doesn't matter since $this->handle refers to $this->tmpFileName (at l; 
[10:59:02] 	 New code comment: Siebrand; This is one of the many extensions dumped in the Mediawiki repo months ago that are unmaintained and; 
[11:02:33] 	 New code comment: Wikinaut; add me as maintainer. \ corresponding changes will be made by me on MediaWiki Manual page. \ This extens; 
[11:10:57] 	 03(mod) Add css class for user status to body tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34413  +comment (10subfader)
[11:16:38] 	 03(NEW) Putting ArticleFeedback for all articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34441 normal; MediaWiki extensions: ArticleFeedback; (Pedroleodato)
[11:17:39] 	 03(mod) Putting ArticleFeedback for all articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34441  +comment (10Pedroleodato)
[11:18:02] 	 New code comment: Wikinaut; (background: I found this problem when debugging Extension:RSS for fetching feeds from external serv; 
[11:18:17] 	 New code comment: Wikinaut; In my opinion, the patch is justified; however, I do not know if it has unintended and unwanted side; 
[11:19:02] 	 03(mod) Putting ArticleFeedback for all articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34441   +shell (10Max Semenik)
[11:19:02] 	 New code comment: Platonides; Much appreciated.; 
[11:20:47] 	 New code comment: ^demon; The point was to *remove* until after the slush. Commenting it out didn't change anything.; 
[11:22:49] 	 New code comment: Jeroen De Dauw; I did remove it in r111591 and r111592. If you insist these lines also go instead of being commented; 
[11:22:49] 	 New code comment: ^demon; I missed the deleted entries, I just saw the creation and this commenting out. It's fine how it is n; 
[11:23:08] 	 New code comment: Catrope; Please don't break the automagic $ aliasing in the closure. I agree that in theory it shouldn't be n; 
[11:24:24] 	 03(VERIFIED) About screen in the Android app is not properly oriented in right-to-left languages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34167  (10Amir E. Aharoni)
[11:26:20] 	 03(mod) Menus in the Android app are not correctly oriented in right-to-left locales - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34168  +comment (10amir.aharoni)
[11:32:18] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; Should be 'belong to these groups'.; 
[11:38:48] 	 New code comment: Reedy; wgDoxyGenerateMan isn't always defined.....; 
[11:41:27] 	 sumanah : Hi I am new to media wiki and would like to start to work on it .. can you suggest a small project that I can start to work on ?
[11:44:48] 	 New code comment: Reedy; This should really be done in the extension via a hook... Not going to be overly straightforward tho; 
[11:44:48] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; I swear my mind just completed the arrow when I reviewed that.; 
[11:48:54] 	 hi vageesh 
[11:49:07] 	 vageesh: have you tried looking at the extensions tutorial?
[11:49:11] 	 that is a good place to start 
[11:50:22] 	 yes I did look at those and want to go further
[11:50:42] 	 sumanah : yes I did look at those and want to go further
[11:50:55] 	 vageesh: (thanks for pinging me)
[11:51:12] 	 vageesh: so, what are your goals? why specifically are you interested in MediaWiki?
[11:51:20] 	 That will help me suggest a project for you
[11:52:26] 	 sumanah : I saw the proposal of Mediawiki for Gsoc 2012 and i am intrested in that  
[11:53:04] 	 vageesh: great! But we are one of more than a hundred open source projects that will apply for GSoC 2012.  Why specifically us?
[11:55:01] 	 Isumunah : I have started to use mediawiki for many things in my college and I felt that to learn it better , I believe that developing  mediawiki would be a great thing
[11:55:08] 	 sumunah : I have started to use mediawiki for many things in my college and I felt that to learn it better , I believe that developing  mediawiki would be a great thing
[11:55:36] 	 cool, vageesh! what sorts of things have you used it for?
[11:55:56] 	 03(mod) Show hostname for each IP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34438  +comment (10Octra Bond)
[11:56:16] 	 03(mod) PHP version of DiffHistoryBlob::patch() computes incorrect base text checksum - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34428  +comment (10tstarling)
[11:56:43] 	 vageesh: by the way, just to make talking in IRC easier, you may be interested in using "tab completion" -- type the beginning of someone's nickname and then hit tab, and it will automatically be completed.  No risk of misspelling.  (But be careful that you're talking to/about the right person; sometimes 2 people have similar nicknames)
[11:57:11] 	 it's like on the Linux/Unix command line :-)
[11:58:55] 	 sumanah : currently im using it for making a page about my hostel.. so basically guys can just create a page about themselves and post it there
[11:59:18] 	 New code comment: Tim Starling; This will store the SQL text of every SQL query done, even in CLI mode, if $wgDebugToolbar is enable; 
[11:59:25] 	 vageesh: makes sense.  Have you ever wished for particular functionality in MediaWiki that does not currently exist?
[11:59:33] 	 also, vageesh, can you show me the wiki you made?
[12:01:41] 	 03maxsem *  10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/MobileFormatter.php: Avoid static variables to make the formatter useable more than once per request
[12:03:04] 	 sumanah :  In my page I like to get people to comment on the various things about a guy, but the page is on a internal network..
[12:03:35] 	 vageesh: understood, never mind then.
[12:03:45] 	 (about showing me the site)
[12:04:10] 	 vageesh: would you like to try to add that functionality -- "comment on this person" - as a project to start with?
[12:04:20] 	 just to start learning about MediaWiki
[12:04:43] 	 vageesh: also, for your MediaWiki installation, have you ever installed extensions? if so, which ones?
[12:05:01] 	 03nikerabbit *  10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormUtils.php: getSkin is deprecated
[12:05:06] 	 sumanah : yeah also I like to get a feed on the guys who commented on the same page for logged in users
[12:05:41] 	 vageesh: ok, maybe you could find a way to hook into the watchlist, or something like that.
[12:06:06] 	 sumanah : I have installed some sample extensions like the awesomenes for starting
[12:06:08] 	 vageesh: so, that's my suggestion -- on your MediaWiki installation, try to do something that you find interesting, and make that feature happen
[12:06:29] 	 sumanah : Yeah sure.
[12:06:39] 	 vageesh: check out https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Special:Version and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version
[12:06:47] 	 vageesh: also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Gadgets
[12:07:06] 	 sumanah : ok
[12:07:35] 	 vageesh: those will give you some ideas of extensions and gadgets that others have written
[12:07:55] 	 sumanah :  ok.
[12:09:25] 	 sumanah : how long do you think is gonna take for anyone to be a good developer say mediawiki ?
[12:10:03] 	 vageesh: that's a good question.
[12:11:33] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Why not just addWikiMsg? \ +$out->addElement( 'p', array(), wfMsgExt( 'ep-disenroll-text', 'parsemag'; 
[12:11:43] 	 vageesh: you are specifically interested in Google Summer of Code.  I can assure you that there are people who do get accepted into GSoC who were not MediaWiki developers when they began the application process.  but if you are actually asking about how long it takes to become comfortably skilled in MediaWiki development....
[12:12:38] 	 that depends on how much time you can invest, and how much PHP and related domains you already knew.
[12:13:03] 	 New code comment: Tim Starling; The aliases for qug are missing, it needs a copy of the namespace names from the fallback languages ; 
[12:13:05] 	 And of course some people are better at some parts than others.
[12:13:32] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Time to switch to non-executable file format?; 
[12:14:03] 	 sumanah :  Yeah.
[12:14:04] 	 03(mod) Suggestion: add a prefix filter to the Translatewiki search interface to limit to a subset of messages starting with that prefix (similar to MediaWiki:Allmessages prefix search) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34416  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[12:14:12] 	 03(mod) Filter messages by prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32060  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[12:14:17] 	 New code comment: Tim Starling; Maybe, although it might still go OOM just reading all the entries into an array. I was wondering if; 
[12:14:20] 	 vageesh: For most people, it takes at least a few months of experimentation and learning before they know enough that they are comfortable saying "yes, I know this".  But it is subjective of course
[12:17:01] 	 sumanah :  I am kind of fine in the basic php, Js so I think If I can spend time and effort  hopefully I  can start to write good code 
[12:17:44] 	 06(LATER) Filter messages by prefix - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32060  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[12:18:02] 	 cool!
[12:19:38] 	 vageesh: are you going to the Chennai hackathon?
[12:20:19] 	 sumanah :  No actually i am having exams during that time :(
[12:20:32] 	 that's too bad.  You can do an event by yourself in your college
[12:21:40] 	 sumanah : In college every weekend we  hack , guys get together and start to code
[12:22:26] 	 sumanah : most are starters and are working on KDE and some started to work on mediawiki
[12:22:32] 	 that's great, vageesh -- here are some ideas for training exercises you can work through to learn more about MediaWiki:  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Localisation/Tutorial  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gadget_kitchen/Training
[12:22:54] 	 vageesh: which college are you from?
[12:23:04] * yuvipanda  notes that he's in a rickety bus and will have intermittent connectivity
[12:23:10] 	 im in IITM
[12:23:12] 	 and you might also be interested in learning how to use our web API https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API/Tutorial -- for example you could add functionality to a KDE app that accesses Wikipedia
[12:23:14] 	 aha
[12:23:16] 	 IIT Mangalore?
[12:23:20] 	 Mumbai?
[12:23:21] 	 Madras
[12:23:26] 	 dammit
[12:23:32] 	 03(NEW) Reviewer is still able to accept a message after changing it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34442 trivial; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (federicoleva)
[12:23:35] 	 03(mod) Reviewer is still able to accept a message after changing it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34442  (10Nemo_bis)
[12:23:36] 	 Third try I might have gotten it
[12:23:41] 	 vageesh: part of iitm-hackers-club?
[12:24:00] 	 vageesh: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2012#Spread_the_word there are leaflets you can use to spread the word about GSoC and MediaWiki
[12:24:06] 	 yupipanda :yes
[12:25:15] 	 sumanah : ok
[12:25:26] 	 hi Daniel_WMDE - thanks for your email re GSoC ideas.  
[12:25:41] 	 sumanah: well, having ideas is easy :)
[12:25:53] 	 true
[12:27:32] 	 New code comment: Hashar; I have opened bug 34436 to get mwdocgen.php rewritten using the Maintenance class; 
[12:28:02] 	 New code comment: Hashar; Done with r111628; 
[12:28:09] 	 hi hber_ 
[12:28:32] 	 New code comment: Hashar; Maybe we should check against $wgDebugDumpSql ? One might want to log the queries of a maintenance ; 
[12:29:03] 	 sumanah:hi!
[12:29:04] 	 hber_: vageesh: since you're both applying for GSoC I thought you might want to know that a good place to look for project ideas is the weekly Wikipedia Signpost http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signpost/Single ... if you read that you will see what's up in the Wikipedia community, and sometimes, especially in the WikiProject interview section, you will get ideas
[12:29:42] 	 also hber_ vageesh the monthly Wikimedia Foundation engineering report will keep you updated on things that we are working on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_engineering_report/2012/January  although it does not cover volunteer efforts 
[12:29:54] 	 but it might be a useful way to get ideas
[12:31:16] 	 hber_: for example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-02-13/WikiProject_report -- if you look at this wiki community, maybe you could come up with ideas that would make their task easier
[12:32:54] 	 sumanah:yah I will check out the link, any more suggestions for Gsoc?
[12:33:28] 	 hber_: well, this is an iterative process -- I reckon that you should go, look at those links, think a bit, and then come back and chat some more and share your ideas as they form
[12:33:36] 	 !events | hber_ 
[12:33:36] 	 hber_: We run face-to-face events for MediaWiki developers and people who want to learn: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_developer_meetings We also have online meetings in IRC to triage bugs: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Triage
[12:34:17] 	 hber_: you can also do your own event at your college -- there are training exercises you can work through to learn more about MediaWiki:  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Localisation/Tutorial  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gadget_kitchen/Training   for MediaWiki, and for learning how to use our web API https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/API/Tutorial
[12:35:45] 	 for example, hber_, Lcawte ran a small hackathon in his town last autumn and enjoyed it
[12:36:03] 	 New code comment: Siebrand; Review comments: \ * Last message on page does not closing when clicking X. \ * The X in the header is u; 
[12:36:45] 	 Yep, although none of the attendees were from Brighton :P
[12:37:09] 	 ooh mw-bot is back
[12:37:32] 	 New code comment: Santhosh.thottingal; to test: \ 
 \ mw.loader.using('mediawiki.jqueryMsg'); \ mw.messages.set('msgtest', '{{plural:2|one|tw; 
[12:38:12] 	 hber_: vageesh: Wikimedia India also does many events and can sometimes help you do events http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Main_Page
[12:40:25] 	 sumanah: what are the necessary steps to be taken for conducting Hackathon?
[12:41:17] 	 New code comment: Tim Starling; Despite the name, this MWDebug class doesn't handle debug logging.; 
[12:41:47] 	 Plan it (the hardest and most stressful part), announce it, run it, enjoy it...(my 4 steps to hackathons)
[12:43:09] 	 hber_: ask Lcawte 
[12:45:33] 	 Hmm, don't you just love it when your just getting ready to do some work, then some DIY electrition (yeah well, I can't spell) who happens to be your 80 year old granddad goes and turns off the master circuit breaker...
[12:46:28] 	 03(NEW) With Firefox the buttons move too much when accepting translation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34443 trivial; MediaWiki extensions: Translate; (federicoleva)
[12:48:26] 	 03(mod) Reviewer is still able to accept a message after changing it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34442  +comment (10s.mazeland)
[12:48:40] 	 14(WFM) Reviewer is still able to accept a message after changing it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34442  (10Siebrand)
[12:48:53] 	 hber_: I see Lcawte has given you a BRIEF answer
[12:49:04] 	 hber_: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Volunteer_coordination_and_outreach/Event_planning is not a bad list
[12:49:19] 	 I'd be happy to go into some more detail, although mine wasn't the most well planned in the world...
[12:52:56] 	 03(mod) With Firefox the buttons move too much when accepting translation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34443  trivial->15enhancement; +comment (10Siebrand)
[12:56:23] 	 hber_, vageesh, hope that helps!
[12:56:29] 	 I'm going to take care of some other stuff now.
[12:56:51] 	 sumanah:thanks a lot!!
[12:57:01] 	  sumanah : thanks for the help!
[12:57:12] 	 you are welcome. do come back here anytime you have questions or concerns
[12:57:33] 	 03(mod) With Firefox the buttons move too much when accepting translation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34443  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[12:58:21] 	 vageesh:are you participating for Gsoc this year?
[12:59:20] 	 hber_ : this is the first time I am trying for Gsoc
[13:00:15] 	 03(NEW) The background of ALL pages of the Wikipedia in English has turned 50 to 100% blue (en.wikipedia.org, but not in other Wikipedias) since 14-15 February, 2012. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34444 minor; MediaWiki: User interface; (zephyr_lopez)
[13:00:22] 	 03(mod) With Firefox the buttons move too much when accepting translation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34443  15enhancement->normal; +comment (10Siebrand)
[13:01:05] 	 hber_ :  how about you?
[13:03:45] 	 vageesh:yah this is my first try, have you done any contribution to mediawiki?
[13:04:44] 	 hber_ :  no, just have started to go about using wikimedia..
[13:08:29] 	 vageesh:how you heard about mediawiki?
[13:10:24] 	 hber_ :  about their gsoc '12 participation? i came to know by net.. searched the gsoc 2011 page
[13:12:03] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; This breaks all existing namespace localisations!; 
[13:15:10] 	 03(mod) Putting ArticleFeedback for all articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34441  +comment (10Pedroleodato)
[13:20:53] 	 03(mod) Reviewer is still able to accept a message after changing it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34442  +comment (10federicoleva)
[13:32:17] 	 yuvipanda:I have some silly doubts ,can I ask you?
[13:36:30] 	 yuvipanda: extensions in mediawiki are the one same as addons in mozilla?
[13:36:49] 	 hber_: heya
[13:36:51] 	 pretty much
[13:39:14] 	 yuvipanda: Ok then if I develop an extension which displays the visitor's IP address then how can I display that in the main page of wiki
[13:39:45] 	 hber_: did you read through the extension development tutorial that sumanah showed you?
[13:40:17] 	 New code comment: Petrb; what if license texts were stored as external html page which mediawiki installation on cluster woul; 
[13:41:12] 	 yuvipanda:yes I read
[13:41:17] 	 New code comment: Petrb; actually why not to make it a wiki page; 
[13:41:41] 	 hber_: did you read the part about hooks and adding stuff to the output HTML?
[13:42:07] 	 yuvipanda:no
[13:43:58] 	 03(FIXED) Time outs in live collections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34402  +comment (10Volker Haas)
[14:06:11] 	 guys how do I start preparing for gsoc???
[14:09:22] 	 hi aj__ 
[14:09:24] 	 !gsoc
[14:09:24] 	 MediaWiki participates in the Google Summer of Code mentorship program. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/GSoC Please read http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ if you're thinking of applying to GSoC.
[14:09:31] 	 aj__: ^^^^^
[14:10:28] 	 hello how do i setup #mediawiki to spread knowledge of buttsex
[14:11:54] 	 sumanah: sorry!
[14:12:18] 	 aj__: no problem. :-)
[14:12:24] 	 i am a beginner in PHP and very good in MYSQL
[14:12:43] 	 Am I good enough to apply to mediawiki?
[14:13:18] 	 New code comment: Reedy; Putting fixme here for ease \ MwEmbedResourceLoaderFileModule isn't defined, but is used \ Missing svn; 
[14:13:25] 	 aj__: you're probably good enough to *apply*.  But the quality of a person's code and proposal, as well as their responsiveness and communications skills, are a big part of deciding who gets chosen
[14:14:35] 	 sumanah: responsiveness!I can improve...:)
[14:15:03] 	 aj__: :-)
[14:15:11] 	 sumanah: I am good at C and C++...does it help my cause??
[14:15:25] 	 aj__: that's slightly nicer, yes
[14:15:35] 	 aj__: but we use very very little C or C++ around here (yet)
[14:15:49] 	 aj__: so, why are you interested in MediaWiki specifically?
[14:16:55] 	 sumanah: i don't know...whenever I see wikipedia the natural urge comes from inside! :)
[14:17:13] 	 :-) it really is cool that Wikipedia is built on open source software and you can contribute.
[14:17:28] 	 aj__: so, have you already started going through the How To Become a MediaWiki Hacker steps?
[14:18:54] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Histoire_des_bateau spam or out of project scope?
[14:18:56] 	 sumanah: Yes...I am going through it....but would be obliged if I am guided to some specific part on which I can work based on my expertise...
[14:19:18] 	 aj__: when you use Wikipedia, do you ever wish that functionality existed that currently doesn't?
[14:19:38] 	 aj__: your own interest will be the best guide because you will instinctively know how to "scratch your own itch"
[14:20:08] 	 sumanah: well it's a hard question to answer...let me give it a thought! :)
[14:20:14] 	 ok!
[14:23:23] 	 03(mod) Putting ArticleFeedback for all articles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34441  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[14:24:06] 	 I've noticed that when a template starts a section, if you click edit you'll be sent to edit that template. Is that intentional or a bug?
[14:25:03] 	 14(WFM) The background of ALL pages of the Wikipedia in English has turned 50 to 100% blue (en.wikipedia.org, but not in other Wikipedias) since 14-15 February, 2012. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34444  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[14:25:14] 	 Krenair: known issue
[14:25:38] 	 ah. is there a bugzilla report for it?
[14:26:11] 	 Most likely
[14:26:13] 	 if not multiple
[14:27:31] 	 03(mod) Search Icon is missing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34389  (10fomafix)
[14:31:37] 	 aj__: ping still around ? 
[14:31:46] 	 aj__: sumanah can you you for GSoC I guess
[14:31:57] 	 help
[14:32:00] 	 sorry
[14:32:14] 	 hashar: yes, I believe I helped him or her
[14:32:19] 	 great
[14:32:35] 	 03(mod) Putting ArticleFeedback for all articles on the Lusophone Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34441  summary (10Pedroca cerebral)
[14:32:37] 	 just noticed it was an half hour old message
[14:32:40] 	 sumanah: he! :)
[14:33:01] 	 Got it.
[14:34:23] 	 Nikerabbit: can you push translations for the mobile app?
[14:34:28] 	 we're going to push out a beta soon
[14:35:18] 	 um. once i've upgraded to 1.18.1 (done everything in the Manual:Upgrading), shouldn't the web config be disabled? it seems to allow redoing the install... ?
[14:36:48] 	 paxed: it can be used for upgrading
[14:37:05] 	 disable access with .htaccess or move/delete the folder
[14:37:19] 	 Reedy: yea, i was just going to ask if i can rm it safely.
[14:43:22] 	 hey ^demon, did you push those git repo notes with the svn revision ids?
[14:45:24] <^demon>	 No, something happened with the tags. I'm going to try to sort it this evening after class.
[14:46:36] <^demon>	 git tag | wc - l gives 82. Should be closer to ~160.
[14:49:38] 	 Uggh, why is my internet connection so slow... I can normally restart everything really quickly :/
[15:06:02] 	 03(mod) Support JSMath for math rendering - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/10585  (10paxed)
[15:11:14] 	 03(ASSIGNED) Special:Version should use git - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34420  (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[15:17:40] 	 Hmm, what day is it today?
[15:19:45] 	 03(mod) Reverse DNS lookup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34438  normal->15enhancement; summary (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[15:20:10] 	 spelling error in SpecialVersion getCreditsForExtension's description :P
[15:20:50] 	 04(REOPENED) Create a mailing list for the Wikidata project proposal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34338  +comment (10denny vrandecic)
[15:22:06] 	 +1 for someone asking us to create a mailing list that already exist :-)
[15:22:24] 	 hehe
[15:22:26] 	 Lcawte: we are Jeudi
[15:23:11] 	 03(mod) Reverse DNS lookup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34438  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[15:23:13] 	 My french days are rusty... is that Tuesday?
[15:25:08] 	 Lcawte: isn't it thursday? or maybe "jedi" lol
[15:25:23] 	 I don't know lol
[15:26:44] 	 03(NEW) user-select:none for editsection buttons and other buttons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34445 enhancement; MediaWiki: User interface; (fomafix)
[15:36:24] 	 Is there perhaps a page with a list of common ids/classes (#bodyContent etc etc), like there is http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/JavaScript for javascript variables?
[15:39:05] 	 be back in a couple hours
[15:40:46] 	 03(FIXED) Special:Version should use git - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34420  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[15:41:23] 	 Reedy git commit # support in Special:Version https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111643  :-D
[15:42:27] 	 03(NEW) Argument 1 passed to OutputPage::setTitle() must be an instance of Title, null given, called in /www/w/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/View.php on line 389 and defined in /www/w/includes/OutputPage.php on line 848 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34446 normal; MediaWiki extensions: LiquidThreads; (sam)
[15:42:29] 	 03(mod) Special:Version should use git - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34420  (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[15:43:39] 	 Krenair: what spelling error? I can't spot one...
[15:43:50] 	 hashar: little typo on line 730? print "$REFfile doesnot exit?";
[15:44:01] 	 ahhhhhh
[15:44:22] 	 nice hashar
[15:44:44] 	 hashar: do you remember which are the useful error logs? :p
[15:45:11] 	 jere_n: fixed with r111644. Thx!
[15:45:28] 	 Reedy: useful logs ? The one in the cluster at /h/w/l/ ?
[15:45:35] 	 Yeah
[15:45:44] 	 no prob :)
[15:46:04] 	 Do we have a way to split the crud out?
[15:46:19] 	 nike gave me the name of a script that handle that
[15:46:27] 	 something like   look_out_for_fatal.sh
[15:46:31] 	 heh
[15:46:46] 	 fatalmonitor
[15:46:48] 	 that is it
[15:46:57] 	 yay
[15:46:57] 	 ty
[15:47:39] 	 is there a better tutorial for hooks?
[15:48:07] 	 Reedy: or maybe  wfDebugLog( 'somename', message );  will log in  /h/w/l/somename.log  (unlikely)
[15:48:37] 	 !hook
[15:48:37] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/`e1
[15:48:51] 	 Eek, its opReedy
[15:48:55] * Lcawte  hides
[15:49:03] 	 pbok: looks like http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks is the main hub for hook documentation
[15:49:29] 	 we might have an HelloWorld extension somewhere
[15:50:22] 	 hashar:but that link is somewhat confusing for a novice like me
[15:52:20] 	 pbok: we have other resources at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker#Get_started
[15:52:26] 	 yeah I know the wiki is a bit messy :D
[15:52:50] 	 pbok: i found this useful once upon a time, maybe it helps http://www.ehartwell.com/InfoDabble/MediaWiki_hooks
[15:53:14] 	 it's kinda old, but it's a good basic starting point
[15:53:19] 	 jere_n: add a link to the ehartwell page to the Manual:Hooks page?
[15:53:37] 	 on it
[15:54:06] 	 ahhhh
[15:54:10] 	 I FOUND IT
[15:54:20] 	 pbok: maybe look at the code in https://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/examples/
[15:54:35] 	 there must a few simple examples using hooks
[15:54:51] * hashar  feels unhelpful since he never use hooks :-\
[15:56:44] 	 hashar: pretty clear examples, will add those too
[15:57:16] 	 jere_n: if you have any ideas for examples, please be bold :-)
[15:57:53] 	 ugh, its Thursday, 4 more days and I'm back to school... ok, so I need to get this extension done...
[15:59:17] 	 hashar: if they take the stick out of my a** here at work i will. lol
[16:00:12] 	 jere_n: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Work_with_us   
[16:00:25] 	 and that page was changed, it is a great looking now!
[16:01:18] 	 Right, so I need to write a tag extension for this I guess...
[16:01:52] 	 hashar: i wish! i  want to get to know things a little better around here first. but maybe GSoC is a good starting point
[16:01:59] 	 !hook
[16:01:59] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/`e1
[16:02:25] 	 what's up with tat ´e1 mw-bot? lol
[16:02:33] 	 *that
[16:03:14] 	 !hooks
[16:03:14] 	 Hooks allow you to run functions at various points in the main MediaWiki code. For more information about using hooks in MediaWiki, see .
[16:03:26] 	 !hook SkinBuildSidebar
[16:03:27] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/SkinBuildSidebar
[16:03:42] 	 Thats what is up//
[16:06:37] 	 ahhh didn't know that. thanks Lcawte
[16:06:38] 	 03(NEW) "Check Availability" feature for usernames at registration interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34447 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (svenmanguard)
[16:08:17] 	 New code comment: SPQRobin; I hope the ID name doesn't collide with other IDs. Google search didn't give me any exact matches. \ ; 
[16:09:26] 	 03(FIXED) Content-holding div needs an ID - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31417  +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin))
[16:12:13] 	 hexmode: where is MWsumper now ? I could use the url again
[16:12:50] 	 MWsumper?
[16:13:07] 	 mwdumper?
[16:13:27] 	 OrenOf: I don't know what you're talking about.  mwdumper?
[16:14:03] 	 OrenOf: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MWDumper ??
[16:16:01] 	 sorry
[16:17:01] 	 I need the new git location - I should have ask ^demon
[16:17:20] * OrenOf  will consult the logs
[16:18:09] 	 03(mod) "Check Availability" feature for usernames at registration interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34447  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:19:03] 	 03(mod) "Check Availability" feature for usernames at registration interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34447  15enhancement->normal; +comment (10Sven Manguard)
[16:19:51] 	 03(mod) "Check Availability" feature for usernames at registration interface - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34447  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:23:08] 	 sumanah: can you point me again towards the list of chapter development projects? i seem to have lost some bookmarks the other day due to a full disk corripting stuff...  
[16:23:17] 	 Yay... I'm writing an extension which means I have to write a ResourceLoader module thing... just about the one thing I know I can do by myself..
[16:23:17] 	 Daniel_WMDE: :-( sure, just a moment
[16:23:30] 	 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/Plans_2011-2012 Daniel_WMDE but it is not complete
[16:24:05] 	 sumanah: thanks! yea, but a good start ;)
[16:24:06] 	 Mr Dreamweaver, your not 300 USD because your slow... start responding...
[16:24:56] 	 sumanah: oh, but that#s fundraising stuff in general - wasn't there something specific for software projects?
[16:25:12] 	 i had that filed under "look at this later"...
[16:25:26] 	 Daniel_WMDE: so, I emailed you with a list of the chapters - did you get that?
[16:25:51] 	 Daniel_WMDE: "chapter outreach re Wikimedia tech & WMDE convening (sorry for spam)"
[16:26:37] 	 Daniel_WMDE: I linked to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/Plans_2011-2012 because that's (as far as I can tell) the best centralized place to get at all the chapters' "what we are going to do in the next year" plans
[16:26:39] 	 sumanah: yea, i got that, but i seemed to recall that there was a more detailed list on the wiki somewhere. but maybe i just dreamt that
[16:26:44] 	 would explain why i can't find it :)
[16:26:50] 	 03(NEW) Call to a member function setTimestamp() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34448 normal; MediaWiki extensions: FeaturedFeeds; (sam)
[16:27:24] 	 Daniel_WMDE: yeah.  So: Hungary, France, Switzerland, UK, Italy, Sweden, DC, Netherlands, Serbia, Spain, Portugal, India
[16:27:40] 	 yea, got the mail. thanks!
[16:27:59] * Lcawte  spots the UK and wonders
[16:28:10] 	 Daniel_WMDE: I was about to email in reply to Nicole, shall I let you?
[16:28:24] 	 no, go ahead
[16:28:26] 	 ok
[16:28:55] 	 just noticed that i left the subject in german after deciding to write the mail in english :)
[16:29:38] 	 Anyone got a non-laggy/resource hoggy alternative to Dreamweaver that is free?
[16:30:35] 	 Why would you even use dreamweaver?
[16:31:02] 	 dreamweaver is great
[16:31:08] 	 try jedit
[16:31:26] 	 at least it used to be the best tool for editing html
[16:31:54] 	 has a very powerfull search and replace
[16:32:14] 	 also a good visual editor
[16:32:20] 	 tsk tsk
[16:33:05] 	 Because I wanted to try its wordpress specific tooltip things... and I don't have anything better on my desktop at the mometn
[16:33:27] 	 moment* and, it came in the same thing as my copy of Photoshop because that has new stuff I wanted to look at
[16:35:41] 	 oh, and it has built in ftp/svn ^.^
[16:38:25] 	 03(mod) mutiple headers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34421  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[16:39:15] 	 Darnit, I keep forgetting I removed my keyboard tray, so I can't rest my feet on it...
[16:52:05] 	 Hmm, is there a tool that lets people upload their images directly to commons from a 3rd party wiki?
[16:53:53] 	 hi, i see that the functions wfElement  is replaced with Xml::element is there a replacement for the wfElementClean? is wfElementClean depricated as well?
[16:55:33] 	 03(mod) mutiple headers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34421  +comment (10hashar)
[16:56:18] 	 New code comment: Hashar; Cause bug 34421; 
[16:56:39] 	 03(FIXED) Call to a member function setTimestamp() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34448  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[16:58:23] 	 found it Xml::elementClean
[17:00:07] 	 03(mod) mutiple headers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34421  +comment (10hashar)
[17:00:43] 	 Ok, so how do I go about doing this, I want to add a slider thing to MediaWiki, in a very similar format to , so whats the best way to implement something like that
[17:00:51] 	 03(mod) mutiple headers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34421   +platformeng (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[17:05:55] 	 Hmm, if something has 3 styles, all with their own different style sheet, do I need 3 resource loader modules (because only one style sheet per  use per say) or some crazy variable and parser magic?
[17:07:32] 	 03(mod) mutiple headers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34421  +comment (10Alex)
[17:08:36] 	 03(mod) [Patch] 0.9.3; Add selection limit option - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34148  +comment (10yaron57)
[17:09:25] 	 03(mod) Mobile version of Wikipedia requires JavaScript to view sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34025  +comment (10jrobson)
[17:32:13] 	 sumanah: I talked to aharoni via email last night and got a response. :)
[17:32:32] 	 it's already done :)
[17:32:35] 	 all seems to be well.
[17:33:17] 	 ok
[17:33:51] * SPQRobin  can't wait for the upgrade to incubator :p
[17:34:03] 	 Is there a way to change  so that includes on the same page as the template do not have includeonly's content?
[17:36:48] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Not just 1.16, translated namespace names were broken on trunk too.; 
[17:37:02] 	 New code comment: ^demon; Since you're working on it, maybe fix the usage of $wgOut, $wgParser, $wgUser and $wgTitle inside of; 
[17:38:56] 	 SPQRobin, check out https://he.wikisource.org/wiki/Test!
[17:39:09] 	 (the exclamation mark is part of the URL)
[17:39:16] 	 it's just a test page that i'll delete soon.
[17:39:44] 	 Compare the display in Firefox and Chrome. Chrome displays the way i want it, thanks to dir="auto".
[17:40:00] 	 Firefox will support this soon, too.
[17:40:33] 	 I hope so (I subscribed me to the mozilla bug so I'll know when :) )
[17:40:55] 	 Btw, for me it showed on the left side because I'm using an LTR interface language
[17:41:37] 	 so the exclamation mark was at the right end (in Firefox)
[17:43:58] 	 03(mod) URLs with semantic property of type URL comes out with http:////... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34044  +comment (10jeroen_dedauw)
[17:45:03] 	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Ah I was seeing the error, but didn't bother to dig it up.; 
[17:46:01] 	 03(NEW) 1.19 change to display bytes added by [edit], as opposed to total page size after [edit] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34449 normal; MediaWiki: History/Diffs; (okeyes)
[17:47:24] 	 03(NEW) navigation and tabbing issues, multiple browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34450 normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (cmcmahon)
[17:48:21] 	 03(mod) navigation and tabbing issues, multiple browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34450  +comment (10cmcmahon)
[17:52:47] 	 New code comment: Jarry1250; What extensions are you running? I can't recreate this myself.; 
[17:52:52] 	 03(mod) wmf-config/swift.php error on upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34440  +comment (10bhartshorne)
[17:56:53] 	 03(NEW) Heavy DB Usage from API call - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34451 normal; MediaWiki: API; (mah)
[17:57:26] 	 03(mod) Heavy DB Usage from API call - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34451  +comment (10mah)
[17:58:03] 	 04(REOPENED) SemanticMediaWiki: Canonical namespace names are set incorrectly. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34383  +comment (10Siebrand)
[17:58:40] 	 hi awjr 
[17:58:55] 	 hi sumanah
[17:59:04] 	 awjr: welcome back to SF?
[17:59:17] 	 thanks sumanah :) first day back in the office
[17:59:58] 	 welcome back, then.
[18:00:29] 	 03(mod) Create a mailing list for the Wikidata project proposal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34338  +comment (10denny.vrandecic)
[18:03:36] 	 03(mod) Create a mailing list for the Wikidata project proposal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34338  +comment (10denny.vrandecic)
[18:05:10] 	 03(mod) Create a mailing list for the Wikidata project proposal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34338  +comment (10Milos Rancic)
[18:10:30] 	 03(mod) SemanticMediaWiki: Canonical namespace names are set incorrectly. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34383  +comment (10jeroen_dedauw)
[18:28:20] 	 next big deployment: Tuesday, February 21 (to Feb 22), 23:00-03:00 UTC (3pm-7pm Pacific Time): MediaWiki 1.19 stage 2 deployment (commons)
[18:28:22] 	 Could anyone offer any info on the embedding function of LQT? it was mentioned here http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Extension_talk:LiquidThreads/user_manual?/reply_(2) but I cant find any more info on it. Is it possible to transclude the whole LQT to an article?
[18:35:09] 	 sumanah: who decides which wikis are upgraded in which stage? For 1.18 I asked to add incubator to an earlier stage, because it's an uncommon setup (good for testing) with low reader impact (if anything goes wrong), so it might be worth putting it in an early stage for each deployment.
[18:35:37] 	 SPQRobin: robla decides -- we asked for feedback a few weeks ago via several channels, got nearly no response
[18:36:24] 	 SPQRobin: we sent mail via wikitech-l, the wikitech-ambassadors list, IRC, and some other communication media
[18:37:15] 	 didn't notice :) I don't read many mails to wikitech
[18:37:39] 	 SPQRobin: you should get on the wikitech-ambassadors list, which is far lower in traffic and has stuff we need to give heads-up about
[18:37:59] 	 good idea, will do
[18:38:34] 	 need a link, or can you find it, SPQRobin ?
[18:38:48] 	 I've found it
[18:43:57] 	 03(mod) Heavy DB Usage from API call - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34451  +comment (10sam)
[18:44:58] * yuvipanda  pokes Nikerabbit 
[18:50:37] 	 Bleh, does the RL stop @font-face{ ... } (on a custom wiki)?
[18:50:39] 	 *strip
[18:53:14] 	 Oh, no, it isn't that.
[18:53:18] 	 Must be something else.
[18:54:17] 	 03(mod) Oracle installer throw SET CONSTRAINTS ALL DEFERRED PL/SQL error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34280  +comment (10jfehrman)
[18:54:17] 	 ...it's because it wraps everything in @media and the two conflict, in fact.
[18:54:18] 	 Hmmm.
[18:54:41] 	 03(mod) Oracle installer throw SET CONSTRAINTS ALL DEFERRED PL/SQL error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34280  +comment (10jfehrman)
[18:55:48] 	 New code comment: Siebrand; Setting back to new. There are no known implementations of a MediaWiki instance with qug as content ; 
[18:56:14] 	 Jarry1250: Sounds like it's time to open a bug
[19:09:14] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.19/Roadmap links to wikiquote and wikibooks error
[19:09:48] 	 Krenair: go ahead and fix it
[19:10:08] 	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Mister_Roolee spamm
[19:11:07] 	 03(mod) navigation and tabbing issues, multiple browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34450  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[19:11:26] 	 sumanah, I would if I could. I don't know why the other links work while those two don't
[19:11:46] 	 03(mod) Probable Javascript loading issues (navigation and tabbing issues, multiple browsers) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34450  summary (10Rob Lanphier)
[19:11:46] 	 Krenair: this is your chance to learn the wonderful world of interwiki links :-/
[19:12:04] 	 Krenair: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Interwiki_linking
[19:13:03] 	 03(mod) Probable Javascript loading issues (navigation and tabbing issues, multiple browsers) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34450  +comment (10robla)
[19:13:59] 	 03(mod) Heavy DB Usage from API call - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34451  (10Rob Lanphier)
[19:16:55] 	 03(VERIFIED) Add namespace alias on de.wikisource - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19884  (10Dominic Z.)
[19:19:24] 	 sumanah, http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki_1.19/Roadmap&diff=500471&oldid=500447
[19:20:49] 	 looking
[19:20:58] 	 aha! thanks!
[19:21:58] 	 I also fixed  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.19/Roadmap/status#2012-02-16 Krenair 
[19:23:09] 	 sumanah, yeah I saw. Why does that style of link work for hewikisource and frwikisource but not enwikiquote or enwikibooks?
[19:23:46] 	 Krenair: perhaps other people know but I do not.  I think mediawiki.org and the MediaWiki source code will give you answers, but I don't have them in my head
[19:24:16] 	 the design and the accumulation of shortcuts for interwiki linking may not be consistent merely because of historical accident
[19:24:59] 	 ok, will look into it later. just about to go on a 1 hour journey with no internet access
[19:26:30] 	 no prob, Krenair - happy travels
[19:27:51] 	 thanks
[19:31:19] 	 03(mod) 1.19 change to display bytes added by [edit], as opposed to total page size after [edit] - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34449  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[19:31:40] 	 03(mod) Argument 1 passed to OutputPage::setTitle() must be an instance of Title, null given, called in /www/w/extensions/LiquidThreads/classes/View.php on line 389 and defined in /www/w/includes/OutputPage.php on line 848 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34446  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[19:33:32] 	 back
[19:34:36] 	 hmph
[19:34:43] 	 yuvipanda is really fast today?
[19:34:54] 	 always disappears before I notice
[19:36:03] 	 03(mod) wmf-config/swift.php error on upload - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34440  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[19:36:08] 	 03(NEW) Download font on Chrome opens Info file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34452 minor; MediaWiki extensions: WebFonts; (srik.lak)
[19:39:16] 	 03(mod) While Using English interface, Namespace in dropdown must use English equivalents. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34439  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[19:39:20] 	 03(NEW) Extension:NewPageCSS is merely a bugfix which should be merged into existing in-SVN extension PageCSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34453 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: PageCSS; (carlb613)
[19:40:55] 	 03(mod) Image rendering and resizing daemon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/4854  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[19:41:01] 	 03(mod) Cannot set time limit in safe mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34437  summary (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[19:41:32] 	 03(mod) mwdocgen.php: rewrite to extends Maintenance class - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34436  minor->15enhancement (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[19:43:41] 	 03(mod) JavaScript error in ext.wikiEditor.toolbar.hideSig - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34434  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[19:44:01] 	 03(mod) hieroglyph images ( tag) missing from generated PDFs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34433  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[19:44:37] 	 03(mod) Upload wizard: RTL support is incomplete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24692  +comment (10robinp.1273)
[19:44:53] 	 03(mod) Undo buttons only being displayed next to diffs without edit summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34432  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[19:45:30] 	 03(mod) MyISAM warning even if you don't get to choose - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34430  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[19:46:19] 	 03(mod) URLs with semantic property of type URL comes out with http:////... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34044  +comment (10g.m.hagedorn)
[19:46:28] 	 03(mod) UserLogout doesn't have returnto links on in text login link - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34429  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[19:47:16] 	 03(mod) PHP version of DiffHistoryBlob::patch() computes incorrect base text checksum - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34428  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[19:53:00] 	 03(NEW) Enable Narayam on mr.wikisource.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34454 critical; Wikimedia: Extension setup; (shantanoo)
[19:53:06] 	 03(mod) URLs with semantic property of type URL comes out with http:////... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34044  +comment (10fastgoldfish)
[19:54:38] 	 03(mod) Cannot set time limit in safe mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34437  +comment (10hashar)
[19:54:51] 	 03(mod) Probable Javascript loading issues (navigation and tabbing issues, multiple browsers) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34450  +comment (10Roan Kattouw)
[19:54:57] 	 03(mod) Cannot set time limit in safe mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34437   +need-review +patch (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[19:54:57] 	 03(mod) MyISAM warning even if you don't get to choose - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34430  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[19:55:04] 	 03(mod) missing file version after upload and strange log entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34427  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[19:55:18] 	 03(mod) installer: ability to override LocalSettings.php filename - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34426  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[19:55:25] 	 is there anyone around willing to review a wrapper around set_time_limit() ?  https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34437#c3
[19:55:34] 	 it emits a warning when using safe_mode
[19:57:26] 	 03(mod) mergeMessageFileList.php spews undefined notices of some extensions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34425  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[19:59:11] 	 03(mod) [SF] Special:RunQuery enhancement to be able to populate red-links automatically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34150  +comment (10fastgoldfish)
[20:00:06] 	 03(mod) Error: invalid magic word 'contributiontotal' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34424  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:00:32] 	 New code comment: Raymond; Message documentation needed per Siebrand but more important: The message prefix "poll-" conflicts w; 
[20:01:06] 	 03(mod) Probable Javascript loading issues (navigation and tabbing issues, multiple browsers) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34450  +comment (10cmcmahon)
[20:03:31] 	 03(mod) Edit conflicts with yourself are not detected when doing no section edit - inconsistent behavior - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34423  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:03:45] 	 03(mod) [RT] fatal error when "pages with the prefix" field contains a namespace followed by a colon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34287  +comment (10fastgoldfish)
[20:04:36] 	 03(mod) missing file version after upload and strange log entries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34427  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[20:05:47] 	 New code comment: Mdale; Yea its only used in wgStandAloneResourceLoaderMode == true, mode. The stand alone mode defines MwEm; 
[20:06:28] 	 03(mod) [SMW] #ask query that produces results and contains ! character absorbs are of the page below in the error message balloon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34363  +comment (10fastgoldfish)
[20:06:36] 	 03(mod) [SMW] #ask query that produces results and contains ! character absorbs area of the page below in the error message balloon - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34363  summary (10badon)
[20:07:04] 	 03(mod) Download font on Chrome opens Info file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34452  +comment (10brion)
[20:08:13] 	 03(NEW) For version 1.16+:: With Apache 2.2 :: Session Hijacking or Cookie error in IE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34455 normal; MediaWiki: User login; (awhizle)
[20:09:02] 	 03(mod) For version 1.16+:: With Apache 2.2 :: Session Hijacking or Cookie error in IE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34455  (10awhizle)
[20:10:21] 	 03(mod) Edit conflicts with yourself are not detected when doing no section edit - inconsistent behavior - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34423  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:14:09] 	 03(mod) [SF] Special:RunQuery forms should not show "Edit" links on section headings. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33812  +comment (10fastgoldfish)
[20:15:32] 	 03(mod) For version 1.16+:: With Apache 2.2 :: Session Hijacking or Cookie error in IE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34455  +comment (10brion)
[20:30:11] 	 03(FIXED) user-select:none for editsection buttons and other buttons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34445  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[20:31:28] 	 Project MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit build #1912: FAILURE in 8 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit/1912/
[20:31:29] 	 Project MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit build #7466: FAILURE in 7.9 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit/7466/
[20:31:32] 	 hi shantanoo 
[20:31:36] 	 hi
[20:31:37] 	  is there any list of wiki specific useful extensions. e.g. for wikisource, proofread is useful extension.
[20:32:00] 	 shantanoo: for any given wiki, look at its Special:Version page
[20:32:01] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Version
[20:32:16] 	 shantanoo: I don't know of any list that's like what you are looking for
[20:32:48] 	 shantanoo: but if you look at various wikis and compare their Special:Version pages, that might help you
[20:35:47] 	 New code comment: Wikinaut; Perfect. I had the same idea. Will be in the next commit.; 
[20:35:54] 	 another question. is it possible to have user specific .js which will create alias for namespace for that specific user? e.g. wikisource is standard namespace. instead when i login, i want to type ws: instead of wikisource.
[20:36:15] 	 I don't know.
[20:36:22] 	 Someone else here might -- TrevorParscal? ^^^^
[20:37:35] 	 it may not be much appealing for languages which are typed using native alphabets keyboards, but for may indic languages, where people use phonetic keyboards, it will be useful.
[20:37:41] 	 hi TrevorParscal 
[20:38:44] 	 it's 12:38 in San Francisco so he may be lunching.
[20:38:59] 	 shantanoo: check the resources linked from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gadget_kitchen
[20:40:06] 	 03(mod) Edit conflicts with yourself are not detected when doing no section edit - inconsistent behavior - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34423  +comment (10bugzilla-wikimedia-org.20.quedel)
[20:40:58] 	 03(mod) WikiEditor should use defaults closer to WikiMedia's setup - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34410  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[20:43:02] 	 sumanah: checking gadget kitchen
[20:44:52] 	 03(mod) Don't show the button on own userpage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34417  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[20:45:09] 	 ok
[20:47:19] 	 is it possible to run bot (spell check and typo errors) on translatewiki for given language?
[20:48:05] 	 03(mod) Edit conflicts with yourself are not detected when doing no section edit - inconsistent behavior - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34423  +comment (10bugzilla-wikimedia-org.20.quedel)
[20:48:16] 	 I don't know. Nikerabbit aharoni do you have an answer for shantanoo?
[20:49:10] 	 shantanoo, i am not aware of any regularly running bots on translatewiki.
[20:49:17] 	 Yippie, build fixed!
[20:49:17] 	 Project MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit build #1913: FIXED in 2 min 56 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-postgres-phpunit/1913/
[20:49:20] 	 03(mod) Edit conflicts with yourself are not detected when doing no section edit - inconsistent behavior - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34423  +comment (10bugzilla-wikimedia-org.20.quedel)
[20:49:21] 	 Probably if you have a bot capable of spell checking your own language very well, and you regexed it or something, then it'd be possible... if you'd be allowed to, thats a different question
[20:49:41] 	 e.g. http://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Anoneditwarning/mr the word ईशार is not correct. it should be इशारा. such things can be fixed using bot.
[20:49:52] 	 shantanoo: you can download for offline translation in gettext format and run spellchecking on that
[20:49:53] 	 Yippie, build fixed!
[20:49:54] 	 Project MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit build #7467: FIXED in 3 min 33 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit/7467/
[20:50:14] 	 Nikerabbit: where do i start?
[20:50:41] 	 shantanoo, one time search and replace bots are OK but then it's probably easier just to run them on the Messages*.php and *.i18n.php files.
[20:50:56] 	 shantanoo: there is an IRC channel devoted to localisation and internationalisation and translation in Wikimedia: #mediawiki-i18n
[20:51:08] 	 aharoni: oh. great.
[20:51:33] 	 i have sample list of words which is being used on mrwiki available @ http://toolserver.org/~shantanoo/replace_words.txt.html
[20:51:43] 	 03(mod) Create a mailing list for the Wikidata project proposal - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34338  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:51:56] 	 03(FIXED) Don't show the button on own userpage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34417  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[20:51:59] 	 03(mod) Show value when using list=querypage as generator - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34382  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:52:01] * aharoni  <3 Devanagari
[20:52:41] 	 aharoni: :)
[20:52:55] 	 Hi, I just upgraded to MW 1.18.1 from 1.17.x and MW can no longer see my logo image (I have verified it is in the right image directory). I ran rebuildImages.php and added "Options +FollowSymLinks" to .htaccess in my /images directory. My thumbnails all show up ok. Any other options to pursue?
[20:53:02] 	 03(mod) $wgProxyList blocking broken since 1.18 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34385  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:53:37] 	 03(mod) Heavy DB Usage from API call - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34451  +comment (10sam)
[20:54:02] 	 03(mod) Deprecated: Function split() is deprecated in ... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34390  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[20:54:09] 	 Michael_Brooklyn: rebuildImages is unrelated
[20:54:10] 	 hi Michael_Brooklyn 
[20:54:15] 	 How big is the image?
[20:54:27] 	 I'll check
[20:54:37] 	 Hi sumanah 
[20:55:37] 	 Reedy: 155px by 155px
[20:55:39] 	 hi Reedy, the djvu caching issue is resolved. typed one page :)
[20:56:29] 	 Yaaay
[21:00:14] 	 hmmm
[21:00:51] 	 If I uploaded that logo through FTP instead of MW when I first set up the installation, would that be a reason why MW seems to be able to find all my other images?
[21:01:04] 	 (but not the logo)
[21:01:06] 	 no
[21:01:21] 	 can you still view the logo by itself via some url?
[21:01:55] 	 no. it goes to missing.html.
[21:02:16] 	 03(NEW) DeletedContribution - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34456 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (pierre.beaudouin)
[21:03:09] 	 sounds like the issue
[21:03:15] 	 mw can't display it if it can't be accessed
[21:03:18] 	 14(WFM) stats.wikimedia.org shows permission denials - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34391  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[21:03:21] 	 is it still physically there?
[21:03:37] 	 yeah. FileZilla swears it's there.
[21:03:57] 	 I can download it via FTP. permissions same as the other image in that directory, which can be viewed.
[21:04:07] 	 03(mod) Build is Fragile - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34392  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[21:04:20] 	 is your wiki public?
[21:04:28] 	 here's the problem image: http://wiki.ncac.org/images/f/f3/Ncac.jpg
[21:04:49] 	 and what is $wgLogo set to in LocalSettings.php?
[21:05:03] 	 here's one that works from the same directory: http://wiki.ncac.org/images/f/f3/Graffiti.jpg
[21:05:10] 	 03(mod) Install Artifactory to distribute MWDumper as a Maven Artifact - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34393  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[21:05:19] 	 at the moment I have the logo set to a thumbnail of that image
[21:05:25] 	 so it's not just blank
[21:05:42] 	 so, actually, I must have uploaded this through MW
[21:07:21] 	 doesn't relaly matter how you uploaded it
[21:07:29] 	 03(mod) Install Jenkins Artifactory Plugin to distribute MWDumper as a Maven Artifact - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34394  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[21:08:42] 	 03(mod) Extension AJAXPoll is in MW SVN but not listed in the bugzilla extension options - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34408  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[21:09:53] 	 03(mod) Add css class for user status to body tag - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34413  normal->15enhancement (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[21:11:37] 	 I re-uploaded to the same directory, using the same file name, and it shows up now. Perhaps it was corrupted when the files were copying over to the new MW package. I hope others weren't affected. Thanks for your help Reedy 
[21:12:00] 	 03(mod) Enable Narayam on mr.wikisource.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34454  04CRIT->15enhancement;  +i18n +shell (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[21:12:27] 	 03(mod) Wikimedia Blog mobile version getting cached - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34419  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[21:13:17] 	 03(mod) DeletedContribution is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34456  summary (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[21:13:29] 	 03(mod) Download font on Chrome opens Info file - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34452  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[21:13:57] 	 03(mod) Enable Narayam on mr.wikisource.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34454  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[21:17:08] 	 03(mod) Probable Javascript loading issues (navigation and tabbing issues, multiple browsers) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34450  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[21:19:28] 	 03(mod) For version 1.16+:: With Apache 2.2 :: Session Hijacking or Cookie error in IE - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34455  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[21:20:31] 	 03(NEW) Doxygen doesn't generate output for comments with @var declarations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34457 normal; MediaWiki: Documentation; (mrbluesky)
[21:22:52] 	 03(mod) Doxygen doesn't generate output for comments with @var declarations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34457  +comment (10Chad H.)
[21:25:10] 	 03(mod) Install Artifactory to distribute MWDumper as a Maven Artifact - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34393  +comment (10innocentkiller)
[21:31:03] 	 Dear Mum, upgrading to 30mb internet connection package is only �5 more a month, and soon it gets doubled to 60, free of charge. Instead of 10 to 20... :D
[21:31:11] 	 03(mod) Install Artifactory to distribute MWDumper as a Maven Artifact - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34393  +comment (10Ryan Lane)
[21:31:24] 	 Woops, this isn't my ranting channel..
[21:33:32] 	 New code comment: Platonides; Thanks. Fixed in r111686. \ I had to read them three times to spot the difference :); 
[21:34:25] 	 03(mod) Doxygen doesn't generate output for comments with @var declarations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34457  +comment (10MrBlueSky)
[21:41:17] 	 Lcawte: where is your ranting channel?  I have popcorn!
[21:41:19] 	 ;)
[21:42:02] 	 Well, generally its on a password protected WordPress blog, 2nd its here, and thirdly its in an empty restricted access op channel :P
[21:42:25] 	 There are two extensions I wanted for another wiki running MediaWiki software; anyone who understand maybe can tell me if such things or how to make up such things?
[21:42:46] 	 Mmmm... 30Mbps... ^_^ reminds me of my upgrade from 25Mbps to 50Mbps which cost the same for internet, and resulted in an overall cheaper bill
[21:43:14] 	 5Mbps -> 7.5Mbps -> 15Mbps -> 25Mbps -> 50Mbps
[21:43:24] 	 Specifically,  which has a program code inside (like 
) but offers a download link; and  which has a TeX code using this format http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/texify/ and then caches the result
[21:44:04] 	 Now if only Google had a Canadian branch, our foreign ownership laws weren't shit, and Google felt like expanding their Gigabit fibre internet to Surrey
[21:45:48] 	 The existing  seem many things don't work.
[21:46:11] 	 Everytime I hear Surrey, I think of the place I was born, except, thats the original :P
[21:46:12] 	  Did I know you were in BC before this?
[21:46:20] 	 03(mod) Don't show the button on own userpage - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34417  +comment (10rkaldari)
[21:47:22] 	 There are many existing TeX->webpage programs but none of them work, except for the one I wrote
[21:47:56] 	 Lcawte: they have better Indian food in Dantman's neighbourhood.
[21:48:25] 	 They do?
[21:49:27] 	  Which Canadian Surrey are you in, Dantman?
[21:49:55] 	 The one where I don't bother eating Indian food at all.
[21:50:42] 	 Hmm, I can't wait for the day when I may get the chance to visit San Franisco.. ^.^
[21:50:47] 	 
[21:51:33] 	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrey,_British_Columbia <- Dantman's neighbourhood?
[21:52:17] 	 guys, is secure.wikimedia.org down?
[21:52:50] 	 fossrox: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/secure.wikimedia.org
[21:53:41] 	 thanks, is there a reason?
[21:53:44] 	 fossrox: use https://
[21:53:49] 	 fossrox: it is.
[21:53:53] 	 vvv: won't work
[21:53:58] 	 $ telnet secure.wikimedia.org https
[21:53:58] 	 Trying 208.80.152.134...
[21:53:58] 	 telnet: connect to address 208.80.152.134: Connection refused
[21:53:59] 	 telnet: Unable to connect to remote host
[21:54:00] 	 The commutative diagram example in the TeXbook fails in Wikipedia.
[21:54:03] 	 No
[21:54:12] 	 Why do you need secure.wikimedia.org?
[21:54:23] 	 Just type https://en.wikipedia.org/
[21:54:59] 	 gtg now. sleep time.
[21:55:16] 	 zzo38: have you written that as a mw extension?
[21:55:55] 	 Amgine: No; I don't know how and don't want to install everything needed to do so. (I do have PHP 4.3 but that's all)
[21:56:32] 	 New code comment: Siebrand; I'm not much for splitting up into multiple files; that's exactly what we got rid of a few years ago; 
[21:56:33] 	 Do you know how? You cannot simply copy my PHP program I already have; it only works on my computer and anyways isn't a MediaWiki extension
[21:57:32] 	 New code comment: Siebrand; Any root cause analysis for this?; 
[21:57:50] 	 I sort of know how, but do not have room on my plate to add that as a project. You might create a bug report on bugzilla showing where the  tag fails.
[21:58:04] 	 vvv, https doesn't work, i use some plugin from EFF if i'm correct which forces encryption through secure.wikimedia.org, but i will check my browser keywords too, anyway it's down for a first time
[21:58:20] 	 fossrox: you should update it
[21:59:21] 	 Just a few advices (if you fail to follow them, you will have security holes and too much server load): * Do not tamper with the format file. * Use only the "tex" executable; not "pdftex", "etex", or "latex". * Cache the results. * Specify a time limit and memory limit. * Do not preverify anything; the format file does this itself.
[22:00:17] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; If we have good file format standards, can we not have code the parses the PHP i18n files, throwing ; 
[22:00:42] 	 ("initex" and "virtex" are also OK, depending on how your TeX distribution works)
[22:00:54] 	 fossrox: Upgrade your version of HTTPSEverywhere, the newer versions have rulesets that use the new https URLs
[22:01:37] 	 thx guys :)
[22:02:08] 	 Amgine: It actually fails on a lot of things, and you would need a complete rewrite to fix it. Try entering codes here http://zzo38computer.cjb.net/texify/texify.htm and see that they work correctly and on Wikipedia it fail
[22:03:51] 	 (The TeXbook commutative diagram example is one thing which fails on Wikipedia)
[22:05:26] 	 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&oldid=477259519
[22:06:02] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; getTranslatedLanguageNames() has a hook to improve the language names beyond just using Names.php. C; 
[22:07:58] 	 Did that guy say PHP 4.3?
[22:08:42] 	 That was released in 2002...
[22:09:06] 	 must've meant 5.3
[22:10:17] 	 03(NEW) Editing fails in IE7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34458 critical; MediaWiki: Page editing; (cmcmahon)
[22:11:57] 	 03(mod) Editing fails in IE7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34458  +comment (10Chris McMahon)
[22:13:08] 	 hi
[22:13:12] 	 hi
[22:13:44] 	 will 1.19 stable be relesased after last deployment on 1 march?
[22:14:06] 	 03(mod) Editing fails in IE7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34458  +comment (10cmcmahon)
[22:14:46] 	 Mikeonline, probably some time after it
[22:16:03] 	 MaxSem: so would you recommend me to update now 1.17 to 1.18.x or to wait for 19? ;)
[22:18:52] 	 03(NEW) Trying to use @font-face in skin CSS fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34459 enhancement; MediaWiki: Resource Loader; (jarry1250)
[22:20:19] 	 03(ASSIGNED) MobileFrontend extension should not be tied to WMF caching infrastructure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34145  +comment (10Arthur Richards)
[22:21:36] 	 03(mod) MobileFrontend extension should not be tied to WMF caching infrastructure - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34145  +comment (10arichards)
[22:22:33] 	 03(mod) MyISAM warning even if you don't get to choose - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34430  normal->minor (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[22:26:29] 	 03(mod) Doxygen doesn't generate output for comments with @var declarations - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34457   +upstream; +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[22:26:55] 	 zzo38: a complete rewrite is certainly possible, but it won't happen if someone does not inform the developers of the issue. Try writing up what you have said here (with the links) in bugzilla: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/index.cgi
[22:27:00] 	 bah
[22:32:09] 	 Wow, CR looks different!
[22:32:32] 	 New code comment: Platonides; I always considered this file structured in a brain damaged way. \ There are lots of entries like: \ T; 
[22:33:00] 	 ?
[22:35:25] 	 03(mod) populateRevisionSha1.php misses archive rows, whose text is stored directly in the archive table (not text table) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34373  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[22:35:28] 	 03(mod) Old edit bar flashes before new edit bar shows up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34431  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[22:35:32] 	 03(mod) Error: invalid magic word 'contributiontotal' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34424  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[22:35:41] 	 03(mod) MediaWiki 1.19 pre WMF deployment actions (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33994  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[22:35:43] 	 03(mod) mutiple headers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34421  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[22:35:48] 	 hi, I've installed and setup flaggedrevs on my wiki and now was trying to change the tags names but it seems impossible
[22:36:14] 	 anyone knows how to change the tags in $wgFlaggedRevsTags?
[22:36:46] 	 the wiki seems to use only the former ones
[22:37:25] 	 tried to run the update.php but it says that the flaggedrevs tables already exist and I suppose that's the problem 
[22:37:41] 	 should I drop those tables and run the update.php again?
[22:38:59] 	 robla: did you see https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34432 ??
[22:40:47] 	 looks like there are about 7 bugs filed right now for 1.19
[22:41:06] 	 10 items marked 1.19, but 3 aren't bugs
[22:41:21] 	 well 2 aren't
[22:41:42] 	 so 8 bugs
[22:44:03] 	 03(mod) Undo buttons only being displayed next to diffs without edit summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34432  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[22:45:52] 	 and as always, one of the bugs is a IE-related one that will waste a lot of everyone's time to fix, whee!
[22:46:03] 	 Yup
[22:47:53] 	 btw, RoanKattouw, what do you think of this way of extending core API: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/ApiParseExtender.php?view=markup ?
[22:49:34] 	 mindrones: update.php isn't for that purpose
[22:49:58] 	 03(mod) Call to a member function setTimestamp() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34448  +comment (10sam)
[22:50:12] 	 mindrones: usually you just change MediaWiki: pages to change the name of tags
[22:50:13] 	 03(mod) Proper pagination on special:Prefixindex and special:allpages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30965   +design (10Bawolff)
[22:50:32] 	 unless you want to renamed the keys in the DB for some reason, in which case you'd need your own script
[22:53:51] 	 04(REOPENED) Call to a member function setTimestamp() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34448  (10Max Semenik)
[22:55:38] 	 AaronSchulz ah hi reading
[22:55:51] 	 AaronSchulz ack oh no
[22:56:50] 	 AaronSchulz I mean I had the 3 default tags, I think 'accuracy', 'depth', style' and I tried to change those to other 3 ones 
[22:56:55] 	 but these are ignored
[22:56:58] 	 Wikinaut: hi! I see you've been working on AJAX Poll -- that's awesome, I'm glad to hear that you're willing to jQuerify it :-)
[22:57:20] 	 AaronSchulz should I jus change the labels and internally use the original ones?
[22:57:32] 	 New code comment: Wikinaut; "to rename the prefix to "ajaxpoll-". When this is done I will add the extension to Translatewiki.ne; 
[22:57:35] 	 hrm, I see
[22:58:00] 	 ashley: done!
[22:58:13] 	 mindrones: which ones are ignored?
[22:58:38] 	 03(mod) Undo buttons only being displayed next to diffs without edit summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34432  +comment (10Alex)
[22:58:44] 	 the old ones?
[22:59:02] 	 AaronSchulz I used http://www.pasteall.org/29228
[22:59:23] 	 AaronSchulz and set the labels in corresponding MediaWiki pages, but can't see 'em
[23:00:09] 	 nice :D
[23:00:26] 	 is the wiki public?
[23:00:45] 	 ashley: AJAXPoll version 1.600 ... at least, it is better tha before
[23:00:46] 	 AaronSchulz no it's the developmnt wiki of wiki.blender.org
[23:01:04] 	 AaronSchulz as pm I can show oyu the dev wiki if oyu want
[23:01:05] 	 Wikinaut: you should've seen the original one ;-)
[23:01:54] 	 is there an option how to set the default search namespaces for all/new users to more than (Site)?
[23:02:09] 	 03(FIXED) Call to a member function setTimestamp() on a non-object - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34448  +comment (10Max Semenik)
[23:02:17] 	 mindrones: what happens when you review pages now?
[23:02:28] 	 ashley: but is working very well
[23:02:32] 	 AaronSchulz it gives me the old flags
[23:02:35] 	 can you help...
[23:02:45] 	 and they all say "inadequate" or something?
[23:02:59] 	 AaronSchulz no tey just act as I never changed them
[23:03:17] 	 ... to add a SpecialPage for maintenance ? (list all polls in the database, stop polls, delete polls)
[23:03:39] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AJAX_Poll
[23:04:14] 	 AaronSchulz I can show you if you want the pwd to enter the dev wiki (it's under https with pwd=)
[23:04:16] 	 mindrones: are you sure you actually changed $wgFlaggedRevsTags?
[23:04:19] 	 that doesn't make sense
[23:04:29] 	 AaronSchulz I did in localsettings
[23:05:19] 	 did you set $wgFlaggedRevsTags after the inlcude() call for FR?
[23:05:29] 	 include() or require(), whatever
[23:05:44] 	 yes after
[23:06:18] 	 did you do something to test that localsettings actually changed?
[23:06:54] 	 AaronSchulz this is my setup http://www.pasteall.org/29229
[23:07:24] 	 AaronSchulz closed the file and reopened, it's ok I think, I edit it all the time in the dev wiki
[23:08:02] 	 and the file is not blocked by vim or something
[23:08:02] 	 does the review form look different?
[23:08:08] 	 we skinned it
[23:08:18] 	 but it's the same in vector
[23:08:31] 	 same as in no changes appear
[23:08:38] 	 so it still has the old tags?
[23:08:50] 	 ah http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgNamespacesToBeSearchedDefault :)
[23:08:58] 	 AaronSchulz yes
[23:09:33] 	 AaronSchulz is it ok to open a pm?
[23:09:42] 	 so that I can give you some credential to see it
[23:09:54] 	 the live blender wiki don't have this setup yet 
[23:10:09] 	 hmm
[23:11:01] 	 can't see waht I did wrong honesty, I just changed their name
[23:11:38] 	 do have an old $wgFlaggedRevTags var in localsettings?
[23:11:43] 	 or anything else FR related
[23:11:56] 	 old?
[23:12:14] 	 the spelling is different :)
[23:12:39] * mindrones  read again in http://www.pasteall.org/29229
[23:12:43] 	 reads*
[23:13:04] 	 I assumed your LC has more than that ;)
[23:13:14] 	 I mean, LS
[23:13:31] 	 ah yes :)
[23:13:37] 	 I copypasted
[23:13:41] 	 no no that's all
[23:13:44] 	 :)
[23:13:54] 	 sorry I have a toothache and not 100% lucid :)
[23:15:24] 	 AaronSchulz no that's the only point I have FR stuff
[23:15:26] 	 mindrones: you can define a 'wfDumpVar' function that does var_dump($wgFlaggedRevsTags) and add $wgExtensionFunctions[] = 'wfDumpVar';
[23:15:34] 	 all in LS
[23:15:35] 	 weeew
[23:15:45] 	 not a php guy tho :/
[23:15:46] 	 it's a dev wiki right? :)
[23:15:50] 	 yes it is
[23:15:57] 	 I can do that but only pasting stuff in it
[23:16:04] 	 I do python and C but not php :)
[23:17:07] 	 function wfDumpVar(){ var_dump($wgFlaggedRevsTags); } $wgExtensionFunction[] = 'wfDumpVar';
[23:17:19] 	 oh thx! :)
[23:17:40] 	 Amgine AaronSchulz under the FR stuff then?
[23:17:57] 	 mindrones: I guess
[23:18:00] 	 so it gets define and then dropped
[23:18:01] 	 doesn't matter too much
[23:18:01] 	 ok
[23:18:13] 	 trying
[23:19:33] 	 oh no.. same
[23:19:47] 	 how's that possible?
[23:19:52] 	 nothing is dumped? Go to Special:SpecialPages
[23:19:59] 	 k
[23:20:34] 	 which one should I look for?
[23:20:41] 	 flaggedrevs?
[23:21:09] 	 you should see the dumped output at the top of the page
[23:21:14] 	 can't see any FR special pages reported
[23:21:18] 	 no
[23:21:25] 	 but I havae a custom skin
[23:21:29] 	 03(mod) [SF] Special:RunQuery enhancement to be able to populate red-links automatically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34150  +comment (10yaron57)
[23:21:30] 	 let me try vector
[23:21:36] 	 mindrones: won't matter
[23:23:55] 	 AaronSchulz okit was my skin
[23:24:00] 	 now I see it
[23:24:21] 	 either way the dump should have been in the page source, maybe not easy to see, but whatever
[23:26:56] 	 AaronSchulz only problem is, not easy to select it to report :s
[23:26:59] 	 trying
[23:29:40] 	 AaronSchulz http://www.pasteall.org/29231
[23:29:59] 	 MaxSem: That seems proper
[23:30:24] 	 krinkle is still away :(
[23:30:56] 	 no codurr today?
[23:30:59] 	 mindrones: so you have wgFlaggedRevTags set somewhere, and it overrides wgFlaggedRevsTags
[23:31:17] 	 RoanKattouw, thanks - I was worried due to past objections against a more tight integration in GeoData
[23:31:36] 	 TimStarling: lemme restart it
[23:32:23] 	 03(FIXED) PHP version of DiffHistoryBlob::patch() computes incorrect base text checksum - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34428  +comment (10Tim Starling)
[23:32:25] 	 AaronSchulz reformatted it is http://www.pasteall.org/29232
[23:32:37] 	 AaronSchulz I have 2 setups right?
[23:33:04] 	 maybe it is because of that 's' after 'Rev' right?
[23:33:23] 	 yeah, you want the 's'
[23:33:26] 	 ok
[23:33:27] 	 kill the old one
[23:33:44] 	 which version of MW is this?
[23:33:46] 	 now I see, I copied the array from the php in the extension and modifed it
[23:34:00] 	 the php has $wgFlaggedRevTags
[23:34:19] 	 but for some reason in LS I used $wgFlaggedRevsTags
[23:34:30] 	 probaly from the doc page
[23:34:36] 	 mindrones: what MW version is it?
[23:34:37] 	 mw 1.16.2
[23:34:37] 	 TimStarling: Could you make me an op in this channel?
[23:34:48] 	 yeah, so you probably don't want the 's' then
[23:34:53] 	 permanently?
[23:35:00] 	 AaronSchulz I've taken the FR extension code from tags/
[23:35:41] 	 AaronSchulz probably in my version I *don't* want the s right?
[23:35:48] 	 or?
[23:35:53] * RoanKattouw  looks at access list, sees 25 ops
[23:35:57] 	 OK maybe not
[23:36:02] 	 Just kick codurr out then
[23:36:17] 	 bye
[23:36:24] 	 can someone fix https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-popups-API.js ??
[23:36:41] 	 hexmode: Trivial, fixing
[23:36:48] 	 mindrones: https://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/REL1_16/extensions/FlaggedRevs/FlaggedRevs.php?revision=62820&view=markup
[23:36:52] 	 yes, you don't want it
[23:36:53] 	 RoanKattouw: :)
[23:36:54] 	 RoanKattouw: I just gave you +votiA
[23:37:11] 	 Thanks
[23:37:11] 	 AaronSchulz ok! :) thx a lot, trying
[23:37:31] 	 commit messages ? I cannot see them here. 
[23:37:35] 	 hexmode: Done
[23:37:42] 	 Wikinaut: That's exactly what I'm working on right now
[23:37:49] 	 tyvm
[23:37:50] 	 (ok)
[23:37:57] 	 What happened to codurr?
[23:38:06] 	 Also, are we having an op party?
[23:38:08] 	 booting is so traumatic in CZ, with all the red font and highlighting
[23:38:29] 	 Joan: It's hung in some way, I'm trying to restart it
[23:38:48] 	 /msg codurr !r
[23:38:51] 	 I just did it.
[23:38:58] 	 Oh
[23:39:16] 	 Does codurr still run from the mwbot account on nightshade?
[23:39:20] 	 Yes.
[23:39:32] 	 Yay
[23:39:36] 	 AaronSchulz worked! but! it prints out stuff like Content	<revreview-content-0>
[23:39:37] 	 codurr: Boo!
[23:39:42] * RoanKattouw  pets codurr
[23:39:43] * codurr  purrs.
[23:39:44] * Joan  licks codurr.
[23:39:44] * codurr  licks Joan.
[23:39:46] 	 yay
[23:39:55] 	 If it isn't echoing commit messages, it could be a CIA issue.
[23:39:55] 	 mindrones: go to MediaWiki:revreview-content-0 and edit
[23:39:57] 	 AaronSchulz is the first one 0 or 1?
[23:40:00] 	 and likewise
[23:40:08] 	 I did it for 1, 2, 3
[23:40:12] 	 ok will change this
[23:40:44] 	 Roan didn't have ops here?
[23:40:49] 	 AaronSchulz by the way, today I formatted a bit the manual page see http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Extension:FlaggedRevs&stable=0&redirect=no#Basic_settings
[23:40:53] 	 chrismcmahon: last item here was the one you were investigating? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Village_Pump
[23:41:19] 	 AaronSchulz if you can review that see if that can help. I can update mentioning aobut how to change tags names?
[23:41:34] 	 Joan: Apparently not
[23:42:28] 	 mindrones: changing the names is pretty much explained already implicitly, though maybe a sentence or two can help
[23:42:54] 	 hexmode: could be related to the random(ish) link tables rendering I saw in Chrome
[23:43:20] 	 AaronSchulz ok. should I mention that the tags levels numbers start from zero? also I get that zero is the default?
[23:43:57] 	 'default' is a bit vague, the 'default' selected level on a form is 1
[23:44:08] 	 0 is used when you change tags or something
[23:44:13] 	 I guess that's worth mentioning
[23:44:20] * robla  gets around to reading bug 34432
[23:44:39] 	 !b 34432
[23:44:39] 	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34432
[23:44:51] 	 and by "0 is used" I mean "0 is used as the level displayed when viewing the revision"
[23:45:56] 	 New code comment: Tim Starling; Yes, that would probably fix it.; 
[23:46:16] 	 03(mod) Undo buttons only being displayed next to diffs without edit summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34432  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[23:46:40] 	 AaronSchulz yes ok
[23:46:42] 	 03(mod) Undo buttons only being displayed next to diffs without edit summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34432  (10Rob Lanphier)
[23:46:48] 	 03(NEW) PHP warning from KMLPrinter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34460 normal; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticMaps; (mediawiki)
[23:47:09] 	 AaronSchulz seems to work ok now thanks a lot
[23:47:29] 	 AaronSchulz I'll make these edits and wait for some review from mediawiki.org editors :)
[23:47:44] 	 03(mod) List recent User-Agents for a user or IP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24411  -need-review +reviewed; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[23:50:14] 	 there is no way to search across all wikis is there?
[23:50:26] 	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; 
 \ + // The real Adler-32 checksum of this string is zero, so it \ + // initialises the state to th; 
[23:50:28] 	 probably need to use teh goog
[23:51:32] 	 03(mod) Undo buttons only being displayed next to diffs without edit summaries - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34432  +comment (10aschulz4587)
[23:52:38] 	 AaronSchulz oh mind a last quick question? 
[23:53:03] 	 ?
[23:53:05] 	 AaronSchulz if I enable this extension, what if I try to use a bot based on the mw api?
[23:53:17] 	 would I have probkems?
[23:53:33] 	 hexmode: Oh, now that's a thought. A wiki search engine. One that spiders every MediaWiki installation it knows about using MediaWiki's api and indexes contents letting you search any wiki in the world.
[23:53:38] 	 question is too vague, I don't see what would be a problem
[23:53:40] 	 I use a python bot that queries the api to do maintenance 
[23:54:04] 	 Dantman: I was mostly thinking about WMF wikis, but yeah, that would work
[23:54:04] 	 like I do an edit via python -> what happens itf the wiki is under flaggedrevs?
[23:54:09] 	 AaronSchulz ^
[23:54:22] 	 you mean editing a regular page?
[23:54:27] 	 yes
[23:54:39] 	 Dantman: my particular problem was just finding wmf gadgets that pointed to secure.w.o and goog is finding them
[23:55:13] 	 AaronSchulz would it suffice to give reviewer/editor permissions ot my bot user?
[23:56:16] 	 AaronSchulz the problem is I don't know what happens when some one does an edit and waits for a review and then I do my pass with the bot to fix stuff: do I implicitly accept the edits that are waiting for a review? 
[23:56:33] 	 [09:53]  AaronSchulz if I enable this extension, what if I try to use a bot based on the mw api? 	 AaronSchulz assumking my bot has reviewer rights
[23:56:40] 	 mindrones: 'bot' users have 'autoreview' effectively
[23:57:19] 	 p858snake|l th
[23:57:22] 	 thx*
[23:58:16] 	 bots sometimes don't send the 'baseRevId' field that the edit form has, but that's OK
[23:58:19] 	 AaronSchulz so to resume is a page contains 'A' and someone edits as 'AB' and then my bot does stuff do I accept the edit 'AB' that was waiting for a review? 
[23:58:23] 	 it preferable that the do though
[23:58:26] 	 New code comment: Bawolff; A whole bunch - http://pastebin.com/6s217ZPC . None of them should affect RC as far as i can tell. (; 
[23:58:45] 	 s/is a page/if a page/
[23:59:01] 	 *that they do