[00:16:39] <Krenair>	 mediawiki.org admins: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Soacran1519 spam
[00:22:24] <pokeswap123>	 Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by... include/webresponce.php
[00:22:40] <pokeswap123>	 how do is stop that when i try to do my own extension
[00:24:08] <Krinkle>	 Krenair: p858snake|l_ handled it
[00:24:39] <Krenair>	 Krinkle, yeah I saw
[00:24:47] <Krenair>	 Krinkle, he handled the page I mentioned earlier as well
[00:24:52] <Krinkle>	 cool :)
[00:25:44] <pokeswap>	 <pokeswap123> Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by... include/webresponce.php
[00:25:44] <pokeswap>	 <pokeswap123> how do is stop that when i try to do my own extension
[00:29:13] <pokeswap>	 !help
[00:29:13] <mw-bot>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:`e1
[00:29:29] <pokeswap>	 !with
[00:29:29] <mw-bot>	 I don't know anything about "with". You might try: !adminsettings !anglebrackets !autothumb !bot !editing !farm !firebug !iis404 !lazy !memory !mwhelp !notes !numberedparams !packagefix !php531 !safemode !secrets !webinspector !wiki !wysiwyg 
[00:29:41] <pokeswap>	 ! <pokeswap123> Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by... include/webresponce.php
[00:29:41] <pokeswap>	 <pokeswap> <pokeswap123> how do is stop that when i try to do my own extension
[00:29:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Users without the autopatrol right are being autopatrolled on simple.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34503  +comment (10mrbluesky)
[00:33:19] <Krenair>	 Is wikibugs part of BugZilla?
[00:34:31] <p858snake|l_>	 no
[00:37:48] <Krenair>	 Okay. Where do I report bugs related to the wikibugs bot?
[00:40:07] <p858snake|l_>	 Oh in that case yes, Wikimedia -> Wikibugs IRC bot
[00:43:48] <Pathoschild>	 pokeswap: This happens when you print something in PHP before MediaWiki sets the HTTP headers. (Printing may occur accidentally, such as when PHP displays an error message.)
[00:48:21] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) An inconsistency - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34506 trivial; Wikimedia: wikibugs IRC bot; (krenair)
[00:49:14] <pokeswap>	 !e TEST
[00:49:14] <mw-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TEST
[00:50:22] <Krenair>	 p858snake|l_, where can I find the source for that bot?
[00:51:40] <Krenair>	 Having some trouble there, rfw_?
[00:51:57] <rfw_>	 Krenair: just some xchat-wdk bug
[00:52:09] <rfw_>	 i'll live
[00:52:16] <Krenair>	 oh. Maybe you should identify before joining the channel to avoid the silly Changing host quit/join?
[00:53:15] <rfw_>	 ah, you can identify using a server password
[00:53:21] <rfw_>	 cool, thanks
[00:53:32] <Krenair>	 You can?
[00:53:39] <Krenair>	 TIL
[00:53:57] <rfw_>	 http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[00:54:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Wikibugs should use real name instead of e-mail prefix when reporting on IRC - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18831  +comment (10p858snake)
[00:54:36] <wikibugs>	 14(DUP) An inconsistency - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34506  +comment (10p858snake)
[00:54:56] <Krenair>	 Ah...
[00:55:03] <Krenair>	 sorry p858snake|l_ :p
[00:55:11] <Krenair>	 Unrelated: I think sumanah gave me access to something she shouldn't've.
[00:55:53] <p858snake|l_>	 why?
[00:56:00] <Krenair>	 My BZ account has the editkeywords permission, which lets me "Can create, destroy, and edit keywords." through the admin section
[00:57:03] <pokeswap>	 !e TEST
[00:57:03] <mw-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TEST
[00:58:04] <Krenair>	 Just after comment 12 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34421 here: Feb 17 19:06:44 <sumanah> Krenair: I've ensured that in the future you can add those keywords yourself
[00:58:22] <Krenair>	 Feb 17 19:06:50 *	sumanah added some privileges in BZ
[01:03:10] <Krenair>	 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10971457/MediaWiki/BugZilla%20editkeywords.png
[01:08:02] <pokeswap>	 !e TEST is the extension good
[01:08:02] <mw-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TEST
[01:16:54] <Dantman>	 Krenair: Minor styling? Why not prettytable style?
[01:17:17] <Krenair>	 Dantman, ... what?
[01:20:40] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) patrol log credit the user patrolled, not the user patrolling - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34495  (10Rob Lanphier)
[01:26:37] <Amgine>	 Dantman: isn't prettytable about to be deprecated?
[01:26:47] <Dantman>	 Whazat?
[01:27:01] <Krenair>	 Dantman, what are you talking about?
[01:27:31] <Dantman>	 Krenair: Screenshot at first glance looked like the bz list page with some alternate header styling
[02:00:42] <pokeswap>	 !e TEST
[02:00:42] <mw-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TEST
[02:06:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki should support <time> in WikiText - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32545  +comment (10mediawiki-bugs)
[02:14:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki should support <time> in WikiText - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32545  +comment (10p858snake)
[02:25:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) margin for edit section button on RTL wikis with LTR user interface is on the wrong side - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34470  +comment (10robinp.1273)
[02:29:23] <p858snake|l>	 Ryan_Lane: You around?
[02:29:45] <Ryan_Lane>	 kind of
[02:29:57] <p858snake|l>	 Ryan_Lane: Troll in #wikimedia-tech that needs a good kicking
[02:30:05] <p858snake|l>	 also KB'ed from #wikipedia-en
[02:30:13] * Ryan_Lane  groans

[02:31:11] <Ryan_Lane>	 he already left the channel
[02:31:22] <Ryan_Lane>	 I'll clean the SAL
[02:46:16] <Dantman>	 Must... add, <mark> support to MediaWiki
[02:47:03] <Krenair>	 Dantman, <mark>?
[02:47:13] <Dantman>	 http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/text-level-semantics.html#the-mark-element
[02:51:45] <thetechexpert>	 anyone here
[02:52:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) 'mw.user.options' and 'mw.user.tokens' are sometimes empty on 1.19, breaking watchlist, gadgets, etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34409  +comment (10Tim Starling)
[02:59:16] <pokeswap>	 !e TEST
[02:59:16] <mw-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TEST
[02:59:36] <pokeswap>	 !check it out
[02:59:36] <mw-bot>	 I don't know anything about "check". You might try: !bleedingedge !checkuser !errors !faq !lazy !notes !phpinfo !session !webrequest !wikipedia !wptemplates 
[03:03:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki should support <time> in WikiText - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32545  +comment (10mediawiki-bugs)
[03:09:11] <pokeswap>	 !e TEST
[03:09:12] <mw-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TEST
[03:14:41] <thetechexpert>	 !wikipedia
[03:14:41] <mw-bot>	 A massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) where players can click on the "edit this page" tab at the top of each level and add quips of information. Then, the Wikipedia Game Masters (GMs) check over these "edits" and if they are bad, the player is sent to "WikiJail," where they must appease the god Jimbo in order to escape. However, good "edits" gain the player "contributions", the much sought-after currency of Wikipedia.
[03:15:29] <thetechexpert>	 !checkuser
[03:15:29] <mw-bot>	 CheckUser is an extension that allows privileged users to see what IPs a user edited from or what users edited from an IP. For more information see < http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CheckUser >
[03:15:53] <thetechexpert>	 !lazy
[03:15:53] <mw-bot>	 Don't rely on the bot answers too much, I am not always the best answer to every question. And don't immediately reach for the bot to answer a question, without at least checking the recent channel history to see if someone already botted them. Also, if someone says "can anyone help me", check that they haven't already stated the question and been told not to repeat themselves (reducing them to ask "can anyone help me?").
[03:16:24] <thetechexpert>	 !e TEST
[03:16:24] <mw-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TEST
[03:17:11] <Amgine>	 <coughs> playing?
[03:18:33] <thetechexpert>	 hehe
[03:19:41] <thetechexpert>	 !
[03:20:01] <thetechexpert>	 !wiki
[03:20:02] <mw-bot>	 A wiki is a collaborative website which can be directly edited by anyone with access to it. Ward Cunningham, developer of the first wiki WikiWikiWeb, originally described it as "the simplest online database that could possibly work". Wikipedia is one of the best known wikis.
[03:20:02] <Petanbot>	 12http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page (Requested by thetechexpert)
[03:20:10] <Amgine>	 !botbrains | thetechexpert
[03:20:10] <mw-bot>	 thetechexpert: I don't know anything about "botbrains".
[03:21:10] <thetechexpert>	 !wikipedia | Amgine
[03:21:11] <mw-bot>	 Amgine: A massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) where players can click on the "edit this page" tab at the top of each level and add quips of information. Then, the Wikipedia Game Masters (GMs) check over these "edits" and if they are bad, the player is sent to "WikiJail," where they must appease the god Jimbo in order to escape. However, good "edits" gain the player "contributions", the much sought-after currency of Wikipedia.
[03:21:21] <Amgine>	 !botnoob | thetechexpert
[03:21:22] <mw-bot>	 thetechexpert: I don't know everything about everything. I am mostly for lazy experienced users to echo quick answers to very common mediawiki questions. Please don't randomly experiment with me for help. Everything I know is at http://toolserver.org/~mwbot/botbrain.html and you can visit #mwbot or privately message me.
[03:21:57] <thetechexpert>	 !0000000000000000000000000000000000000000 | Amgine
[03:21:58] <mw-bot>	 Amgine: I don't know anything about "0000000000000000000000000000000000000000".
[03:22:28] <thetechexpert>	 !wiki | Amgine
[03:22:28] <mw-bot>	 Amgine: A wiki is a collaborative website which can be directly edited by anyone with access to it. Ward Cunningham, developer of the first wiki WikiWikiWeb, originally described it as "the simplest online database that could possibly work". Wikipedia is one of the best known wikis.
[03:22:30] <Petanbot>	 12http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/|_Amgine (Requested by thetechexpert)
[03:22:55] <thetechexpert>	 Petanbot
[03:23:05] <thetechexpert>	 !petanbot
[03:23:05] <mw-bot>	 I don't know anything about "petanbot".
[03:25:09] <thetechexpert>	 I cant figure out how to install exstensions
[03:25:30] <thetechexpert>	 and yes I have read everything on how to install them
[03:26:09] <thetechexpert>	 can anyone help?
[03:26:10] <Amgine>	 You download them to the extensions/ directory. Then enable them in the LocalSettings.php by adding the appropriate inclusion statement.
[03:27:34] <thetechexpert>	 I do that but when I put the statement on localSettings.php on my website it displays an error message
[03:28:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) MediaWiki should support <time> in WikiText - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32545  +comment (10mediawiki-bugs)
[03:28:43] <thetechexpert>	 ??? @ wikibugs
[03:29:34] <Krenair>	 wikibugs is a bot, thetechexpert 
[03:30:54] <thetechexpert>	 ??? @ wikibugs
[03:31:16] <Krenair>	 wikibugs is a bot, thetechexpert 
[03:31:26] <thetechexpert>	 oh
[03:31:27] <Amgine>	 What error
[03:31:39] <thetechexpert>	 just a sec ....
[03:31:58] <Krenair>	 thetechexpert, it sends a message to the channel when a public bug on Bugzilla is changed
[03:33:54] <thetechexpert>	  Fatal error: Call to undefined method MediaWiki::getAction() in H:\www\mediawiki\extensions\Lockdown\Lockdown.php on line 129
[03:34:28] <Dantman>	 Sounds like you're using a newer version of the extension on an older version of MediaWiki
[03:35:16] <thetechexpert>	 then how do I get the older version?
[03:35:31] <Amgine>	 Other way around: uprade your mediawiki.
[03:36:16] <sDrewth>	 is there a help page about portlets?  I cannot find a good lead page at mediawiki.org
[03:36:51] <thetechexpert>	 I can't upgrade I just downloaded this version today
[03:37:00] <thetechexpert>	 1.16.0
[03:37:08] <Dantman>	 1.16 is obsolete
[03:37:20] <Dantman>	 And that version doesn't even have any of the security fixes.
[03:37:41] <Dantman>	 That's about the 3rd worst version of vanilla MediaWiki install.
[03:37:54] <Amgine>	 1.9.
[03:37:59] <Amgine>	 worst.ever.
[03:38:17] <Dantman>	 amgine: ;) 1st was "Anything before 1.15"
[03:38:44] <Krenair>	 Ugh. One of the wikis I edit runs 1.16.0.
[03:38:46] <Amgine>	 <gg> Is intoximicated. Therefore, rudeasfuck.
[03:39:57] * sDrewth  pours fberocca down fAmgine's fthroat

[03:40:31] <Krenair>	 Oh, and there's another one which runs MediaWiki 1.6.7
[03:40:42] <thetechexpert>	 is is easy to upgrade?
[03:41:46] <Amgine>	 fberocca... <looks up>
[03:41:55] <Amgine>	 Yes, it is, thetechexpert.
[03:42:01] <Amgine>	 Thank ^demon.
[03:42:18] <Amgine>	 <and ohsomany others.>
[03:42:49] <sDrewth>	 start with Berocca
[03:43:11] <Krenair>	 Amgine, perhaps you could explain to Mr. Tech Expert how to upgrade. :P
[03:43:26] <Amgine>	 !upgrad | TheTechExpert
[03:43:27] <mw-bot>	 TheTechExpert: I don't know anything about "upgrad". You might try: !anglebrackets !downgrade !noshell !php531 !shell !subversion !update.php !upgrade 
[03:43:32] <Amgine>	 !upgrade | TheTechExpert
[03:43:33] <mw-bot>	 TheTechExpert: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading
[03:43:38] <Amgine>	 bah.
[03:43:55] <Dantman>	 !downgrade
[03:43:55] <mw-bot>	 I don't know anything about "downgrade"... you must be a Windows user. Perhaps you mean http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading
[03:44:04] <Amgine>	 <gg>
[03:44:07] <Dantman>	 lol
[03:44:26] <Amgine>	 damn, that's good. Domas or ^demon?
[03:44:29] <Dantman>	 !php531
[03:44:29] <mw-bot>	 PHP 5.3.1 contains a regression with reference parameters when used with __call() and should not be used with MediaWiki (downgrade to 5.3.0 or upgrade to 5.3.2). See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/21793
[03:44:36] <Dantman>	 !5.3
[03:44:36] <mw-bot>	 Closures, early static bindings, beautiful... Wish we could require it, but doesn't look like that'll happen any time soon.
[03:44:58] <thetechexpert>	 what is shell access
[03:45:45] <Dantman>	 !shell
[03:45:45] <mw-bot>	 Shell access (that is, SSH access, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH) is highly recommended if you want to run MediaWiki. You can install without it, and basic operation will work, but even creating backups or upgrading will be painful without it. Some more involved maintenance tasks may even be impossible. MediaWiki is not designed for minimal environments.
[03:46:06] <Amgine>	 <shares pitcher of martinis with Dantman>
[03:46:30] <thetechexpert>	 is shell access easy to use?
[03:46:44] <Amgine>	 Do you know how to work in a terminal? if so, yes.
[03:46:52] <thetechexpert>	 ok
[03:47:43] <thetechexpert>	 can it be accessed on windows?
[03:47:48] <Krenair>	 <thetechexpert> is shell access easy to use?
[03:47:50] <Krenair>	 Oh come on
[03:47:59] <Krenair>	 Are you serious?
[03:48:06] <thetechexpert>	 can it be accessed on windows?
[03:48:08] <Amgine>	 Xe is trying to troll me, Krenair. Is fun.
[03:48:24] <thetechexpert>	 can it be accessed on windows?
[03:48:32] <Amgine>	 Why, yes, yes it can.
[03:48:42] <Amgine>	 Let me find a windows soft for it.
[03:49:21] <Krenair>	 !google PuTTY
[03:49:21] <mw-bot>	 You haven't googled it yet. < http://www.google.com >
[03:49:30] <Krenair>	 >_>
[03:49:42] <Dantman>	 What, no lmgtfy?
[03:49:58] <Dantman>	 Oh wait, that's meant to be a 0 param
[03:50:06] <Dantman>	 !g
[03:50:06] <mw-bot>	 Google says: http://www.google.com/search?btnI=745&q=`e1
[03:50:17] <Dantman>	 !g lmgtfy
[03:50:17] <mw-bot>	 Google says: http://www.google.com/search?btnI=745&q=lmgtfy
[03:51:33] <Dantman>	 !lmgtfy
[03:51:33] <mw-bot>	 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=`e1
[03:51:40] <Dantman>	 Oh, we already have one
[03:51:42] <thetechexpert>	 !g Windows Shell Access
[03:51:42] <mw-bot>	 Google says: http://www.google.com/search?btnI=745&q=Windows
[03:51:46] <Amgine>	 Oh, nice! I've been looking for that.
[03:52:14] <thetechexpert>	 !g Shell Access
[03:52:14] <mw-bot>	 Google says: http://www.google.com/search?btnI=745&q=Shell
[03:52:59] <Dantman>	 thetechexpert: ...just do the search yourself
[03:52:59] <thetechexpert>	 !g stupid google
[03:53:00] <mw-bot>	 Google says: http://www.google.com/search?btnI=745&q=stupid
[03:53:14] <Amgine>	 !lmgtfy troll
[03:53:14] <mw-bot>	 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=troll
[03:54:01] <thetechexpert>	 !lmgtfy shell access
[03:54:02] <mw-bot>	 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=shell
[03:54:40] <Amgine>	 Use a +. !lmgtfy shell+access
[03:54:57] <thetechexpert>	 +. !lmgtfy shell+access
[03:54:58] * Dantman  doesn't think that'll work

[03:55:16] <Amgine>	 !lmgtfy shell+access
[03:55:16] <mw-bot>	 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=shell%2Baccess
[03:55:26] <Dantman>	 The code uses `e1
[03:55:27] <Amgine>	 mmm, you're right Dantman.
[03:55:31] <thetechexpert>	 !lmgtfy shell+access
[03:55:31] <mw-bot>	 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=shell%2Baccess
[03:55:49] <Amgine>	 pah. 
[03:55:55] <Dantman>	 We need some sort of `eN
[03:56:09] <Dantman>	 Or maybe `e0
[03:56:16] <Amgine>	 <suggests filing a bug> Worth it.
[03:56:18] <Dantman>	 Acually let's test it
[03:56:23] <thetechexpert>	 to upgrade will I need shell access?
[03:56:25] <Dantman>	 !asdftest
[03:56:25] <mw-bot>	 I don't know anything about "asdftest".
[03:56:39] <thetechexpert>	 to upgrade will I need shell access?
[03:56:53] <Dantman>	 !asdftest is `e `e1 `e0
[03:56:53] <mw-bot>	 Successfully added keyword: asdftest
[03:56:58] <Dantman>	 !asdftest A B C
[03:56:58] <mw-bot>	 `e A `e0
[03:56:58] <Amgine>	 did you read the website link on upgrading?
[03:57:05] <Dantman>	 !asdftest del
[03:57:06] <mw-bot>	 Successfully removed keyword: asdftest
[03:57:14] <Dantman>	 Guess we'll need that change.
[03:57:38] <thetechexpert>	 to upgrade will I need shell access?
[03:57:44] <Amgine>	 did you read the website link on upgrading?
[03:57:57] <thetechexpert>	 Yes or No
[03:58:13] <Dantman>	 It'll make things a lot easier, but it's not necessary with the new installer.
[03:58:15] <Amgine>	 Well, I'd assume one or the other yes.
[03:58:18] <Dantman>	 Now RTFM thetechexpert
[03:58:31] <Krenair>	 !1.20 is Hold your horses there....we haven't even released 1.19!
[03:58:31] <mw-bot>	 You don't have permission to do that.
[03:58:43] <Amgine>	 <gg>
[03:58:50] <Dantman>	 !1.20
[03:58:50] <mw-bot>	 Hold your horses there....we haven't even released 1.18 or 1.19!
[03:59:02] <Krenair>	 Amgine, why do you keep saying <gg>?
[03:59:02] <Dantman>	 !1.20 del
[03:59:02] <mw-bot>	 Successfully removed keyword: 1.20
[03:59:11] <Amgine>	 <gg> = giggle
[03:59:19] <Amgine>	 ~=
[03:59:29] <Dantman>	 !1.20 is Hold your horses there....we haven't even released 1.19!
[03:59:29] <mw-bot>	 Successfully added keyword: 1.20
[03:59:30] <thetechexpert>	 !asdftest is hi
[03:59:30] <mw-bot>	 You don't have permission to do that.
[03:59:47] <thetechexpert>	 !asdftest is hi
[03:59:48] <mw-bot>	 You don't have permission to do that.
[03:59:53] <p858snake|l>	 Amgine: wait, so your telling me, you're not gossip girl‽ ¬.¬
[04:00:14] <thetechexpert>	 !asdftest is hi
[04:00:14] <mw-bot>	 You don't have permission to do that.
[04:00:15] <Dantman>	 lol
[04:00:15] <Amgine>	 <- doesn't gossip, except when it's funny>
[04:00:34] * Dantman  jabs Reedy

[04:01:18] <Amgine>	 Actually, I think Joan for the bot. Reedy for other things.
[04:01:57] <thetechexpert>	 when are they realesing 1.19
[04:02:05] <Amgine>	 !1.19
[04:02:06] <mw-bot>	 Working on it, hoping to deploy in February 2012. Branched at r110996 on 9th February, 2011. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/56919
[04:02:28] <Amgine>	 silly rabbi, kicks are for trids.
[04:02:33] <thetechexpert>	 !1.20
[04:02:33] <mw-bot>	 Hold your horses there....we haven't even released 1.19!
[04:02:44] <thetechexpert>	 !1.16
[04:02:44] <mw-bot>	 Old MediaWiki versions may have bugs and security vulnerabilities, we don't recommend you to use any release older than 1 year. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Version_lifecycle for details.
[04:02:52] <Krenair>	 !1.6.7
[04:02:52] <mw-bot>	 I don't know anything about "1.6.7".
[04:02:58] <Amgine>	 Intelligent gnats. That's all I wish for.
[04:03:10] <thetechexpert>	 !1.6
[04:03:10] <Dantman>	 Krenair: we only do #.#
[04:03:10] <mw-bot>	 Old MediaWiki versions may have bugs and security vulnerabilities, we don't recommend you to use any release older than 1 year. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Version_lifecycle for details.
[04:03:17] <Krenair>	 !1.6
[04:03:18] <mw-bot>	 Old MediaWiki versions may have bugs and security vulnerabilities, we don't recommend you to use any release older than 1 year. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Version_lifecycle for details.
[04:03:23] <thetechexpert>	 !1.500
[04:03:24] <mw-bot>	 I don't know anything about "1.500".
[04:03:27] <Krenair>	 Dantman, oh okay.
[04:03:31] <thetechexpert>	 !1.21
[04:03:31] <mw-bot>	 I don't know anything about "1.21".
[04:03:38] <Krenair>	 Dantman, one of the wikis I edit is running 1.6.7 -.-
[04:03:42] <thetechexpert>	 1.17
[04:03:42] <p858snake|l>	 If you guys want to keep playing with the bot, please take it to #mwbot or private message it
[04:03:51] <p858snake|l>	 Dantman: why are you jabbing Reedy?
[04:04:06] <Amgine>	 to get rid of the gnat, p858snake|l
[04:04:16] <thetechexpert>	 21:03] == p858snake|l [~p858snake@unaffiliated/p858snake] [21:03] ==  realname : p858snake [21:03] ==  channels : #mediawiki [21:03] ==  server   : roddenberry.freenode.net [Brisbane, AU] [21:03] ==  account  : p858snake [21:03] == End of WHOIS
[04:05:04] <p858snake|l>	 You managed to whois me, congrats!
[04:05:53] <thetechexpert>	 wtf??
[04:06:06] <thetechexpert>	 what is that
[04:06:46] <thetechexpert>	 [21:05] Dantman [~dantman@mediawiki/dantman] requested CTCP VERSION from thetechexpert:
[04:06:57] <Amgine>	 <tone type="exceptionally condescending">You managed to whoisme, congrats!</tone>
[04:07:34] <thetechexpert>	 [21:06] <Amgine> <tone type="exceptionally condescending">You managed to whoisme, congrats!</tone>
[04:08:07] <Amgine>	 Just explaining. It seems you need things explained.
[04:08:22] <Krenair>	 thetechexpert, http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/tdomf/63164/stop-500x374.jpg
[04:09:05] <Dantman>	 <div itemscope itemtype="http://example.com/some/imaginary/type/Message"><meta itemtype="tone" contnent="exceptionally condescending"><span itemtype="content">You managed to whoisme, congrats!</span></div>
[04:09:40] <Amgine>	 <gg>
[04:09:48] <Amgine>	 Not fair; is quieted.
[04:10:02] <Dantman>	 ^_^ I was writing it back then
[04:10:13] <Dantman>	 ;) Microdata is expressive, not short.
[04:10:16] <Amgine>	 kk. <forgiveness />
[04:11:14] <Amgine>	 Anyhoo, back to our regularly schedule bot reports.
[04:11:59] <Amgine>	 <pets p858snake|l>
[04:12:13] <Krenair>	 You scared him away.
[04:12:27] <Amgine>	 <reconsiders the phrasing>
[04:13:44] <thetechexpert-bo>	 krenair, http://adscam.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341bfa1853ef011571909eed970b-800wi
[04:19:39] <Dantman>	 p858snake|l: *!*617a70ca@gateway/*
[04:24:46] <darkowlzz>	 what does this mean "return md5($s[0]);" ?
[04:25:21] <OverlordQ>	 it returns the md5 hash of whatever is the first element in the $s array
[04:26:14] * darkowlzz  googling for md5 hash

[04:26:30] <jeremyb>	 how do i run update.php for the centralauth db?
[04:26:41] <OverlordQ>	 darkowlzz: http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographic_hash_function
[04:26:49] <jeremyb>	 > from within function "SpoofUser::getConflicts". Database returned error "1146: Table 'centralauth.spoofuser' doesn't exist (deployment-sql)".
[04:26:50] <Dantman>	 !md5
[04:26:50] <mw-bot>	 I don't know anything about "md5".
[04:27:14] <jeremyb>	 whym: ^
[04:27:54] <Amgine>	 whym?
[04:27:54] <OverlordQ>	 there may be a script in the extension dir, it's been a while since I looked at CentralAuth
[04:28:07] <jeremyb>	 hi Amgine ;)
[04:28:17] <Amgine>	 <waves @ jeremyb>
[04:28:27] <jeremyb>	 Amgine: might you know?
[04:28:43] <Dantman>	 https://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/CentralAuth/central-auth.sql
[04:29:32] <darkowlzz>	 OverlordQ: thanks :)
[04:30:04] <Amgine>	 No, sorry. Haven't worked with CentralAuth yet, though it is on my stack.
[04:30:21] <jeremyb>	 Dantman: so, no maint script?
[04:30:30] <Dantman>	 Doesn't seam like it.
[04:30:50] <Dantman>	 It is a non-local thing after all.
[04:32:17] <jeremyb>	 Dantman: see my error msg? doesn't seem to be in tables.sql or central-auth.sql
[04:33:12] <whym>	 jeremyb: hi from labs channel
[04:33:14] <OverlordQ>	 I think it wants antispoof installed in the same db
[04:33:20] <jeremyb>	 whym: hi
[04:33:29] <jeremyb>	 OverlordQ: a different extension?
[04:33:56] <OverlordQ>	 that's what SpoofUser is a part of
[04:34:08] <jeremyb>	 https://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/AntiSpoof/sql/patch-antispoof.mysql.sql
[04:37:23] <Amgine>	 <goes to troll locals>
[04:44:20] <jeremyb>	 Dantman: will sql.php replace wgDBTableOptions for me?
[04:44:30] <Dantman>	 mhmm
[04:44:59] <jeremyb>	 and how do i use sql.php for centralauth anyway?
[04:45:22] <jeremyb>	 there's no DB hostname option. just user/pass
[04:45:33] <jeremyb>	 and wiki name/wiki URL
[04:49:44] <jeremyb>	 redlink! ;-( https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual:Sql.php&action=edit&redlink=1
[04:55:30] <Krenair>	 Anyone here experienced with porting major skin customisations (http://discoverygc.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Monobook.css) to vector?
[04:57:16] <jeremyb>	 Dantman: so, no idea how wgDBTableOptions is normally replaced?
[04:57:54] <Dantman>	 It's done using a method in the Database class
[04:58:53] <jeremyb>	 i don't see it in http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/21466...
[04:59:32] <jeremyb>	 oh, maybe i lied
[05:04:45] <jeremyb>	 Dantman: so, https://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/AntiSpoof/sql/patch-antispoof.mysql.sql says wgDBprefix not wgSharedPrefix ?
[05:04:58] <jeremyb>	 compare with https://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/GlobalUserrights/global_user_groups.sql
[05:05:06] <jeremyb>	 is bug?
[05:05:14] <Dantman>	 Perhaps
[05:05:30] <jeremyb>	 because the error msg i quoted wanted it to be in centralauth
[05:07:41] <jeremyb>	 Dantman: can you check where it is in prod?
[05:08:18] <jeremyb>	 it turns out this jawiki db i have here already has a spoofuser. but that may just be because the .sql is wrong
[05:09:29] <Dantman>	 I'm not sure what's deciding the table should be in that database.
[05:09:52] <jeremyb>	 yeah, i was just wondering what DBs in prod actually have a table with that name
[05:10:02] <jeremyb>	 many or just one? and if one which one?
[05:10:11] <ChinnoDog>	 i would like to prevent new users from being added to the Users group but i can't find a configuration setting that controls the default groups
[05:10:17] <jeremyb>	 how many have more than 1-2 rows?
[05:10:44] <jeremyb>	 ChinnoDog: why? that's the whole point of the Users group. better to say what you're trying to accomplish
[05:11:40] <ChinnoDog>	 jeremyb: I have two modes of authentication; the regular built in one and facebook. I don't want unconfirmed users to have any more access to the wiki than users without accounts
[05:12:00] <ChinnoDog>	 My intention is to add the emailconfirmed users into the users group via the config file
[05:12:08] <jeremyb>	 i don't follow. what is a confirmed user?
[05:12:28] <ChinnoDog>	 one that has confirmed their email account
[05:12:33] <jeremyb>	 can't you just disable reading or editing for Users?
[05:13:19] <jeremyb>	 (maybe what you're asking is possible, idk. but it seems like the wrong way i think)
[05:13:26] <ChinnoDog>	 I was hoping to use the users group to mean anyone who is a fully authenticated user which will include facebook users and regular users that have confirmed their email
[05:14:00] <jeremyb>	 you can change the descriptions of the groups to pretty much anything you want
[05:14:26] <jeremyb>	 but it would be confusing to have users described as X and Y described as Users
[05:14:27] <ChinnoDog>	 I know but the error messages don't show the group descriptions
[05:14:41] <ChinnoDog>	 yea
[05:15:27] <ChinnoDog>	 that is why I don't want new users added to any group
[05:15:51] <ChinnoDog>	 They aren't allowed to be users until they have jumped through my rings of fire
[05:16:41] <jeremyb>	 how many fuels have you tried?
[05:17:05] <ChinnoDog>	 :-p
[05:17:38] <ChinnoDog>	 if I can't do this then I guess I could make the emailconfirmed group the "users" group and shift all the real permissions to it
[05:17:57] <ChinnoDog>	 It will not be as obvious in the error messages what is wrong though if someone tries to do something without permission
[05:18:23] <jeremyb>	 you can change the error msg...
[05:18:28] <ChinnoDog>	 (because most users will be facebook users and will be added implicitly)
[05:18:30] <jeremyb>	 seen [[special:allmessages]] ?
[05:18:47] <ChinnoDog>	 not adding new users to the Users group would solve all this..
[05:19:20] <jeremyb>	 i think you'd want to change the error msg either way?
[05:19:45] <ChinnoDog>	 The error message would be perfectly acceptable if I could keep them out of the users group
[05:19:57] <ChinnoDog>	 The only unauthenticated users trying to edit pages are going to be spam factories
[05:27:30] <jeremyb>	 Dantman: so, could you ask prod for me?
[05:27:39] <Dantman>	 Prod?
[05:27:48] <jeremyb>	 Dantman: you have shell, right?
[05:27:52] <Dantman>	 No
[05:27:55] <jeremyb>	 oh ;(
[05:28:25] <jeremyb>	 or OverlordQ may still be around? (he patched this extension <5 years ago according to dem on!)
[05:31:49] <jeremyb>	 oh, i didn't realize asheesh was here
[05:45:27] <vapblack>	 peace all. How do I change the color of the mediawiki navigation box in modern skin?
[05:46:17] <vapblack>	 mediawiki 1.18
[05:47:11] <Joan>	 Which navigation box?
[05:47:15] <Joan>	 The table of contents box?
[05:47:28] <vapblack>	 right on the left of the page
[05:47:39] <Amgine>	 sidebar
[05:47:59] <Joan>	 You want to edit the wiki page "MediaWiki:Modern.css" with your CSS changes.
[05:48:04] <Joan>	 But it's unclear what you want to change.
[05:48:09] <Joan>	 Amgine: Bless you.
[05:48:29] <Amgine>	 With or without the asperger?
[05:48:30] <vapblack>	 the background color of the sidebar**
[05:50:18] <Joan>	 https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Modern.css?useskin=modern
[05:50:24] <Joan>	 Like that. ^
[05:50:41] <vapblack>	 ah greatness. thanks much
[05:50:49] <Joan>	 No problem.
[05:51:43] <Pathoschild>	 {{#babel}} has some strange behaviour on category pages (notice the text): http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:User_en
[05:52:30] * Pathoschild  will file a bug, but seems weird.

[05:56:00] <Joan>	 Looks like you're putting it in the wrong namespace. :-)
[05:56:13] <Pathoschild>	 Categories want to speak too. :(
[05:56:59] <Pathoschild>	 (And it's intended as an example of how to add yourself to the category.)
[06:01:01] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) #babel has confused text when used on category pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34507 minor; MediaWiki extensions: Babel; (pathoschild+wmbugs)
[06:01:09] <vapblack>	 man I was trying to fix that for weeks..... :/ 
[06:01:11] <vapblack>	 okay one more issue I been working on.
[06:01:13] <vapblack>	 My navboxes are looking odd. The View Discuss and Edit (V, D, E) are on the side of the page....making it look very odd....urlm.in/lexm
[06:05:55] <Joan>	 <div class="noprint plainlinks hlist navbar" 
[06:05:59] <Joan>	 Do you have the hlist class?
[06:53:54] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) IRC Recent Changes Feed Change Breaking Bots/Tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (seahorseruler)
[06:56:32] * jeremyb  sleeps

[07:03:50] <thetechexpert-bo>	 .
[07:05:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) IRC Recent Changes Feed Change Breaking Bots/Tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  +comment (10p858snake)
[07:05:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) IRC Recent Changes Feed Change Breaking Bots/Tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  +comment (10p858snake)
[07:18:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) IRC Recent Changes Feed Change Breaking Bots/Tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  (10Rob Lanphier)
[07:21:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) IRC Recent Changes Feed Change Breaking Bots/Tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  +comment (10robla)
[07:29:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) #babel has confused text when used on category pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34507  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[07:31:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Problem with edits after rename - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34505   +shell (10Rob Lanphier)
[07:31:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Allow uploading of Blender 3D or COLLADA files to Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1790  (10ralf)
[07:31:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Allow uploading (almost) any type of file by recognizing "nasty" files automatically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/898  (10ralf)
[07:31:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Attach source files to uploaded images - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17012  (10ralf)
[07:31:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] There should not be a mismatch between html and stylesheet version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34504  (10Rob Lanphier)
[07:32:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Editing fails in IE7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34458  (10Rob Lanphier)
[07:33:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Allow uploading of Blender or other 3D files to Wikimedia Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1790  (10ralf)
[07:38:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) IRC Recent Changes Feed Change Breaking Bots/Tools - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  +comment (10robla)
[07:39:08] <Pathoschild>	 robla: Could you list two or three 1.19 wikis to test on, besides meta?
[07:40:19] <p858snake|l>	 test2.wikimedia.org
[07:40:39] <p858snake|l>	 test should also be 1.19 i think
[07:41:04] <Pathoschild>	 Thanks.
[07:41:23] <robla>	 yeah, what he said  ;-)
[07:41:29] <Pathoschild>	 :)
[07:42:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  summary (10Krinkle)
[07:42:28] <robla>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.19/Roadmap#Deployment_schedule
[07:43:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) #babel has confused text when used on category pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34507  +comment (10pathoschild+wmbugs)
[07:44:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  normal->04CRIT; +comment (10Krinkle)
[07:45:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  +comment (10krinklemail)
[08:06:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  +comment (10robla)
[08:50:46] <codurr>	 New code comment: Raymond; I suggest to make this message key optional because (at least) Chinese uses other brackets.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111852#c31217>
[09:02:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) jquery.tablesorter's data-sort-type feature not working for wikitext tables on WMF - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31527  +comment (10Tisza Gergő)
[09:07:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) modules loaded with using() fail in debug mode - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34485  +comment (10Michael M.)
[09:13:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) (un)watch button broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34469  +comment (10Michael M.)
[09:22:20] <DerJoerg>	 Hello guys!
[09:23:09] <DerJoerg>	 I saw you have already begun deploying MW 1.19 to the Wikimedia Foundation sites.
[09:23:16] <DerJoerg>	 Do you already have a planned release date for MW 1.19?
[09:24:38] <DerJoerg>	 Background of my question is that I have some time this weekend to update some sites, but I want to know, if what is in SVN is more or less the current version or if there still are major changes to happen.
[09:26:28] <MaxSem>	 there are still some problems
[09:32:03] <Nikerabbit>	 although, they might not affect you
[09:32:35] <Nikerabbit>	 I'm using 1.20alpha on my sites and the biggest problem are regressions in extensions
[09:39:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] There should not be a mismatch between html and stylesheet version - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34504   +code-update-regression (10p858snake)
[09:39:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508   +code-update-regression (10p858snake)
[09:43:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Inconsistencies in irc.wikimedia make it hard to monitor certain wikis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28276  (10Nemo_bis)
[09:43:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) RecentChanges IRC related issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16599  (10Nemo_bis)
[09:44:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  (10Nemo_bis)
[09:44:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) RecentChanges IRC related issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16599  (10Nemo_bis)
[09:44:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Use full localized name for Special:Log in IRC RC feed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30245  (10Nemo_bis)
[09:48:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  +comment (10niklas.laxstrom)
[09:52:31] <Nikerabbit>	 morning santhosh
[09:55:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[09:55:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Use full localized name for Special:Log in IRC RC feed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30245  (10Nemo_bis)
[10:00:18] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Sitenotice doesn't get updated on locked wikis after it is edited - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34509 normal; MediaWiki extensions: [other]; (to.aru.shiroi.neko)
[10:02:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  +comment (10federicoleva)
[10:02:40] <DerJoerg>	 Alright, thanks for the hint.
[10:03:06] <DerJoerg>	 Do you already have a release date or can you estimate one if you haven't?
[10:03:29] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Make Recent Changes available via XMPP - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/17450  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[10:05:07] <Nikerabbit>	 DerJoerg: soonish
[10:06:58] <DerJoerg>	 Ok, then I'll go ahead. Thanks Nikerabbit!
[10:07:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sitenotice doesn't get updated on locked wikis after it is edited - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34509  +comment (10p858snake)
[10:07:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sitenotice doesn't get updated on locked wikis after it is edited - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34509  (10p858snake)
[10:08:07] * p858snake|l  hits BZ, stop being silly

[10:09:30] <Nikerabbit>	 it happens
[10:11:42] <p858snake|l>	 it didn't select the version field when I changed comp/product so it decided to send me around in circles on the same page without error messages
[10:32:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) populateRevisionSha1.php misses archive rows, whose text is stored directly in the archive table (not text table) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34373  (10christian)
[10:58:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) margin for edit section button on RTL wikis with LTR user interface is on the wrong side - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34470  (10fomafix)
[11:11:35] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) monobook toolbar or vector with old toolbar not setup randomly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34510 major; MediaWiki: Resource Loader; (phil.el)
[11:13:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) monobook toolbar or vector with old toolbar not setup randomly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34510  (10Philippe Elie)
[11:14:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) monobook toolbar or vector with old toolbar not setup randomly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34510  (10Philippe Elie)
[11:16:47] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Support Type:URL values with more than 255 characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34511 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: Semantic MediaWiki; (markus)
[11:17:02] <wikibugs>	 03(ASSIGNED) Support Type:URL values with more than 255 characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34511  (10Markus Krötzsch)
[11:18:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [SMW] 1.6 to 1.7 property type "URL" cannot be queried by property when the URL contains equal sign character "=" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32955  +comment (10markus)
[12:02:14] <nanark>	 hi all
[12:02:46] <nanark>	 i am a brand new mediawiki user, so my question might be stupid :)
[12:03:52] <nanark>	 i just installed a private wiki, and i can't find where to create a new user
[12:04:32] <thedj>	 nanark: probably because you are already logged in yourself.
[12:05:41] <thedj>	 if you logout (top right), then the top right link should be "Log in/Create account"
[12:06:42] <Subfader>	 On action=delete I want to the the page title for certain properties and disable deletition  if needed. Which hook would I use? ArticleDelete doesn't seem to fit
[12:07:01] <Subfader>	 *want to check
[12:08:36] <nanark>	 actually it is not :)
[12:09:03] <nanark>	 i don't have a create account, just sign in
[12:09:35] <thedj>	 eh, what version did you install then ?
[12:09:54] <nanark>	 so i tried another wiki, but just a restricted one, and i have the same issue : i can't create an account.
[12:09:57] <nanark>	 the last one
[12:10:12] <thedj>	 anyway, Special:UserLogin should have a "create account' option as well.
[12:10:26] <thedj>	 if it doesn't, then during installation, you disabled account creation :D
[12:11:56] <nanark>	 xxxxxx/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&returnto=Main+Page
[12:12:23] <thedj>	 yes, there should be a link to Create account there.
[12:12:33] <nanark>	 this is just a login page, no creation allowed or link or whatever
[12:12:41] <thedj>	 then during installation you had the installer add "$wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = false;" to your LocalSettings.php
[12:13:01] <nanark>	 oh ok, great, i check that right now
[12:13:05] <thedj>	 which makes it so that only sysops can create accounts, and people cannot register themselves.
[12:14:51] <nanark>	 ok, and if i want to create account for them (it's for my company), is there a quick form for that ?
[12:15:33] <nanark>	 btw, it works fine for the createaccount option, many thanks
[12:17:56] <thedj>	 Special:UserLogin/signup allows you to create an account for another person if you are a sysop
[12:19:19] <nanark>	 ok great. works fine too. thx.
[12:23:42] <zlato>	 hi, i updated a infobox and got banned for vandalism :(
[12:28:10] <DerJoerg>	 What's the prefered way to get the current revision number of the current page in MediaWiki 1.19?
[12:29:08] <DerJoerg>	 Background: I have a skin where I until now used echo $this->data['currevisionid']; but the value is no longer set in MW 1.19.
[12:39:38] <MaxSem>	 zlato, this is a technical channel, ask on relevant Wikipedia's channel
[12:46:08] <thedj>	 is the trunk free btw ?
[12:46:14] <thedj>	 or are we in some sort of freeze ?
[12:46:19] * thedj  can't keep up these days.

[12:54:18] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) unable to (SUL-)login on ru.wikiversity.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34512 normal; Wikimedia: User survey; (kontakt-bugzilla-wikimedia-org-22.07.2011)
[12:54:26] <DerJoerg>	 thedj: I am not sure. If the question was about the status of 1.19: It has been branches already.
[12:55:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) unable to (SUL-)login on ru.wikiversity.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34512  (10Axpde)
[12:55:32] <codurr>	 New code comment: TheDJ; I think that is a rather technical assumption. In my mind the users will care more about the IP orde; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111829#c31218>
[12:56:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) unable to (SUL-)login on ru.wikiversity.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34512  (10p858snake)
[12:56:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) unable to (SUL-)login on uz.wikiquote.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34381  +comment (10Axpde)
[12:58:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) unable to (SUL-)login on uz.wikiquote.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34381  (10p858snake)
[12:59:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) margin for edit section button on RTL wikis with LTR user interface is on the wrong side - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34470  (10fomafix)
[13:00:32] <codurr>	 New code comment: TheDJ; Also note this is the IP sorter, supporting IP/CIDR notation, not an IP/CIDR sorter.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111829#c31219>
[13:04:44] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) strange behaviour on tenwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34513 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (kontakt-bugzilla-wikimedia-org-22.07.2011)
[13:07:13] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Remove ? mode for missing links - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/27619  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[13:09:47] <codurr>	 New code comment: Siebrand; You also have to Remove the entry from messages.inc and MessagesEn.php; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111861#c31220>
[13:17:29] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) PupDate not set in non-English wikis and is not detected when signature has "Talkpage" link between name and date - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34487  +comment (10T. Gries)
[13:32:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) unable to (SUL-)login on ru.wikiversity.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34512  +comment (10Axpde)
[13:39:15] <stefan211>	 hello
[13:39:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) unable to (SUL-)login on ru.wikiversity.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34512  +comment (10kontakt-bugzilla-wikimedia-org-22.07.2011)
[14:02:44] <wikibugs>	 14(WFM) svn loop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34462  +comment (10Bawolff)
[14:10:36] <stefan211>	 how can I set the type of wiki and copyright oft wiki?
[14:12:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Username rename on locked wikis fail with error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34501  (10とある白い猫)
[14:13:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sitenotice doesn't get updated on locked wikis after it is edited - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34509  +comment (10とある白い猫)
[14:21:29] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Language and direction of first heading should depend on page content language instead of user interface language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34514 trivial; MediaWiki: Internationalization; (fomafix)
[14:21:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) RTL/bidirectional issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/745  (10fomafix)
[14:29:56] <nanark>	 hi all. I have an issue when i paste content from another editor (textarea, Smultron or Sublime Text). If i paste the content, Mediawiki ignore all CRLF when i submit,
[14:30:39] <nanark>	 i tried different encoding (mac, windows, unix) in smultron, and none worked
[14:30:51] <nanark>	 nanark: i tried different encoding (mac, windows, unix) in smultron, and none worked
[14:34:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) svn loop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34462  (10jdk370)
[14:37:45] <nanark>	 any idea for my CRLF issue ? :)
[14:43:29] <sumanah>	 hi aharoni, limograf, srikanthlogic, thedj 
[14:43:42] <pokeswap>	 !e TEST
[14:43:42] <mw-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TEST
[14:44:03] <aharoni>	 hi
[14:44:21] <srikanthlogic>	 sumanah: hello
[14:44:42] <sumanah>	 aharoni, srikanthlogic, thedj - could I ask one of you to answer an email I just got from someone who's having a bit of trouble learning how to hack MediaWiki?  this person needs someone to reach out to, to ask questions like "why was this done this way?" and "how are these 2 functions different?"
[14:44:55] <aharoni>	 nanark, which wiki is it? Wikipedia? If it's Wikipedia, in which language? Or is it some other wiki?
[14:45:00] <aharoni>	 sumanah, sure
[14:45:00] <sumanah>	 and more generally needs tips on approaches that help
[14:45:02] <sumanah>	 thanks aharoni 
[14:45:25] * srikanthlogic  havent dived much into mediawiki code at all

[14:46:28] <MaxSem>	 sumanah, better ask that person to come to IRC
[14:46:34] * aharoni  still sees himself as someone who dived into MW code just a little bit and thus still remembers how it is to be a frustrated beginner

[14:46:59] <sumanah>	 MaxSem: well, (a) I am going to, and (b) this person also needs one-on-one mentorship I think
[14:47:44] <limograf>	 sumanah: hihi
[14:47:47] <sumanah>	 MaxSem: timezones are also an issue
[14:47:51] <MaxSem>	 SoC candidate?
[14:47:54] <sumanah>	 probably
[14:49:17] <codurr>	 New code comment: SPQRobin; Ah, sure. Done in r111865.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111852#c31221>
[14:51:24] <sumanah>	 MaxSem: part of what I wrote him: YOU ARE NOT ALONE!
[14:51:24] <sumanah>	 I recently read some research (in the "Code Talkers" chapter of the excellent "Making Software" book http://www.aosabook.org/en/makingsoftware.html ) stating that the number one question programmers need answers for, when working collaboratively on software, is "what is the rationale behind this code?" These are the questions you are asking!  "Why was the code written this way?" "Was this a workaround for something else?" "What other design approac
[14:51:24] <sumanah>	 hes were considered and discarded?"
[14:51:24] <sumanah>	 Anytime that you have a question like this -- ANYTIME -- you can ask the #mediawiki channel and probably someone will be able to answer you.  If you ask and no one answers, then ping a specific person and maybe they can help.
[14:51:33] * sumanah  listed some specific experts

[14:51:46] <MaxSem>	 one on one is bullshit
[14:51:46] <nanark>	 aharoni, it is MediWiki (last version), in french (binary utf8 setup)
[14:51:51] <sumanah>	 MaxSem: no.
[14:51:59] <MaxSem>	 lone cowboy programming is not what we want
[14:52:07] <sumanah>	 MaxSem: Different people learn in different ways, and sometimes they need one-on-one help for a while.
[14:52:30] <sumanah>	 MaxSem: I am not going to summarily  eject shy people from our community.
[14:52:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) monobook toolbar or vector with old toolbar not setup randomly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34510  +comment (10phil.el)
[14:53:12] <aharoni>	 nanark, where is it actually installed? is it publicly accessible online?
[14:53:25] <sumanah>	  aharoni, you are cc'd. Thanks for offering help.
[14:54:31] <codurr>	 New code comment: Hashar; It is not reason to make false assumptions and write tests based on random content. We need obvious ; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111829#c31222>
[14:55:23] <sumanah>	 believe me, MaxSem, when someone reaches out to me in private, I kindly redirect them to public sources very consistently, but I'm also sympathetic to the impulse that leads to the private question. It is a new skill to be willing to appear vulnerable and ignorant in public and people usually can't get there in a single step.  It takes some teaching, and the first bit of that teaching often happens 1-on-1.
[14:55:48] <nanark>	 aharoni: it is a private wiki actually http://wiki.dev.senscritique.com/
[14:56:15] <sumanah>	 Yes, I want to get any given contributor to feel comfortable asking their questions in public.  But getting there sometimes, pragmatically, takes a little 1:1 time.
[14:57:04] <MaxSem>	 sumanah, little trick: get them to PM you on IRC. this way, they'll have to enter this channel anyway
[14:57:09] <sumanah>	 no, not true
[14:57:21] <sumanah>	 they could just join Freenode but not the channel.
[14:57:28] <aharoni>	 nanark: do you use any extensions there? you can see it by searching for Special:Version.
[14:57:45] * sumanah  also thinks "lone cowboy programming" is kind of a red herring here

[14:58:07] <aharoni>	 nanark: also, which browser are you using?
[14:58:41] <sumanah>	 ok, that's done. Sunday day-off-work now resumes.
[14:59:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) user-select:none for editsection buttons and other buttons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34445  (10fomafix)
[14:59:42] <nanark>	 aharoni, Chrome 17
[14:59:54] <nanark>	 aharoni, Mac OSX Lion
[15:00:09] <aharoni>	 oh, actually i can see it myself...
[15:00:14] <nanark>	 aharoni, tried to paste from Sublime Text, Smultron etc
[15:02:14] <aharoni>	 i cannot reproduce it on Linux.
[15:02:40] <aharoni>	 maybe anyone with a Mac can try it?
[15:02:59] <nanark>	 trying it on my Xubuntu to check it out
[15:03:13] <aharoni>	 i copy several lines from a text editor to an editing textarea and line endings come out fine.
[15:03:33] <Nikerabbit>	 uga chaga
[15:05:23] <nanark>	 aharoni, same thing with my Xubuntu on Chrome using SublimeText
[15:07:08] <aharoni>	 nanark, what about some other editor on Xubuntu? Like Kate, or gedit or vi or whatever is there for xfce?
[15:07:12] <nanark>	 aharoni, my media wiki is brand new, just installed it. I have installed some extensions from the setup though : RenameUser, and WikiEditor
[15:07:57] <aharoni>	 RenameUser is probably not the problem. WikiEditor also *shouldn't* be a problem, but go figure...
[15:08:00] <nanark>	 aharoni, i m gonna try to deactivate WikiEditor. That's the only customisation i have done 
[15:09:13] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) margin for edit section button on RTL wikis with LTR user interface is on the wrong side - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34470  (10fomafix)
[15:09:22] <nanark>	 aharoni, It works 
[15:09:45] <aharoni>	 with a different editor? or after disabling WikiEditor?
[15:10:06] <nanark>	 aharoni, it works fine without WikiEditor  extension
[15:10:15] <aharoni>	 curious.
[15:12:21] <aharoni>	 i don't really know what to say, because i can't reproduce it, but could you try re-enabling WikiEditor and trying to copy from some other text editor or from a different wiki, like Wikipedia?
[15:12:26] <nanark>	 aharoni, i tried from my mac, and it works fine too.
[15:12:57] <nanark>	 aharoni, ok
[15:13:32] <aharoni>	 ... and also try it with some other browser (probably Firefox)
[15:14:25] <nanark>	 aharoni, it works fine on wikipedia
[15:14:44] <nanark>	 aharoni, some kind of apache conf issue ?
[15:15:38] <pokeswap>	 !e TEST
[15:15:38] <mw-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TEST
[15:18:12] <nanark>	 aharoni, same issue with Opera btw. So it has to be my server conf. right ?
[15:19:01] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Remove Beta status for Kannada transliteration mapping - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34515 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Narayam; (srik.lak)
[15:23:33] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Enable Narayam on Kannada Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34516 normal; Wikimedia: Extension setup; (srik.lak)
[15:23:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Remove Beta status for Kannada transliteration mapping - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34515  (10Srikanth Logic)
[15:26:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) unable to (SUL-)login on ru.wikiversity.org - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34512  +comment (10Jeremy Baron)
[15:29:27] <aharoni>	 Reedy, ^^^. Do you know anything about WikiEditor?
[15:30:08] <Reedy>	 Not really
[15:30:17] <aharoni>	 that's a weird problem.
[15:32:03] <aharoni>	 vvv, thedj ^^^ any idea what could case that WikiEditor behavior?
[15:33:47] <nanark>	 aharoni, i have 4 websites on this server including www.senscritique.com which has tons of js. Never had any complains. Very weird.
[15:44:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Fix up licensing and attribution of the Application and it's contributors - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33912  +comment (10Andrea Stagi)
[15:45:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Remove Beta status for Kannada transliteration mapping - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34515  (10Santhosh Thottingal)
[15:57:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) API should allow edit using pageid - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32492  +comment (10Krenair)
[16:12:15] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Sometimes scripts imported by mw.loader.load on common.js are not executed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34517 normal; MediaWiki: Javascript; (mybugs.mail)
[16:12:47] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Search engine is unstable, producing false "not found" result - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34518 normal; MediaWiki: Search; (folengo)
[16:15:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Mediawiki is showing text from MediaWiki:<Message>/<lang1> also on MediaWiki:<Message>/<lang1>/<lang2> - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31560  (10mybugs.mail)
[16:16:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Include subpages of Common.js to Common.js - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/23850  (10mybugs.mail)
[16:31:44] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) monobook toolbar or vector with old toolbar not setup randomly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34510  (10Rob Lanphier)
[16:33:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sometimes scripts imported by mw.loader.load on common.js are not executed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34517  (10Rob Lanphier)
[16:40:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Unable to refer to core images in extension styles - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34493  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[16:52:40] <Wikinaut>	 Question:  is there a method to wfDebug("some debug info") when LocalSettings runs ?
[16:53:16] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) raise template include size limit on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34519 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (saibotrash)
[16:53:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) raise template include size limit on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34519   +ops (10Saibo)
[17:00:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) svn loop - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34462  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[17:09:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Rich Editor] link in a form appears in the wrong place under IE, if form contains a section called "Free Text" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34311  +comment (10yaron57)
[17:12:13] <wikibugs>	 14(INVALID) [SF] #formlink parses query strings incorrectly if there is an & character in parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34486  +comment (10Yaron Koren)
[17:18:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [SF] Special:RunQuery enhancement to be able to populate red-links automatically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34150  +comment (10yaron57)
[17:23:09] <johnduhart>	 !seen sumanah
[17:23:13] <Petanbot>	 sumanah (~sumanah@mediawiki/sumanah) was last seen quitting from #mediawiki 2 hours, 24 minutes ago stating (Quit: Leaving).
[17:26:02] <ashish_d>	 johnduhart: hey!
[17:26:18] <johnduhart>	 ashish_d: Hi
[17:26:53] <johnduhart>	 ashish_d: My reply wasn't to you by the way, it was for Wikinaut
[17:27:03] <johnduhart>	 What you're doing is great
[17:27:26] <ashish_d>	 johnduhart: Ah, I was looking for an elaborated answer so keep away the confusions, thanks!
[17:42:05] <OffGridOps>	 MW 1.18.1:  I am wanting to display sqft with ft and the 2 elevated as square foot.  Is there somewhere I can read to learn how to do this?  Thanx
[17:42:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sometimes scripts imported by mw.loader.load on common.js are not executed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34517  (10mybugs.mail)
[17:49:09] <[KrusheR]>	 OffGridOps math extension
[17:51:14] <DerJoerg>	 Today's "How would you do it"-question:
[17:51:29] <DerJoerg>	 You want to get the title of the current page. How would you do it?
[17:51:48] <OffGridOps>	 thanx krusherR
[17:54:19] <stefan294>	 .
[17:56:16] <MaxSem>	 OffGridOps, ft<sup>2</sup>
[17:56:30] <OffGridOps>	 gonna test now
[17:57:30] <[KrusheR]>	 oh, that will do, too
[17:57:48] <[KrusheR]>	 DarkRift article object -> wgTitle
[17:57:49] <[KrusheR]>	 i think
[17:58:00] <[KrusheR]>	 or wgArticle->title
[17:58:03] <[KrusheR]>	 something like that
[17:58:56] <OffGridOps>	 MaxSem, thanx that did it and no need for the extension DL.  I have all the stuff enabled in the local settings so maybe that helped as well.  Thanx to both though!
[17:58:59] <Nikerabbit>	 wgArticle is dead and deprecated
[17:59:11] <Nikerabbit>	 you usually get title from some relevant context
[18:01:25] <DerJoerg>	 Nikerabbit: In my skin file I get the title with  $this->getSkin()->getTitle(); But how can I get the it in LocalSettings.php?
[18:07:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable Extension:ShortUrl on or.wikipedia, ta.wikipedia... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1450  +comment (10Platonides)
[18:07:27] <stefan294>	 who are the settings for a close wiki? thanks
[18:07:27] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) mwEmbed is not compatible with HTTPS-/secure-wiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34520 normal; mwEmbed: General/Unknown; (it_is_me_here)
[18:09:35] <DerJoerg>	 stefan294: Have a look at $wgGroupPermissions. I have not tried myself, but I think setting $wgGroupPermissions['*']['read'] = false; might do the job...
[18:13:03] <Nikerabbit>	 DerJoerg: you can't, you need to use a hook or something
[18:13:47] <DerJoerg>	 A use the hook $wgHooks['PersonalUrls'].
[18:15:22] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) The ReturnTo query parameter of Special:UserLogin skips array-valued parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34521 normal; MediaWiki: User login; (it_is_me_here)
[18:15:41] <Nikerabbit>	 DerJoerg: it has title as the second parameter
[18:16:19] <DerJoerg>	 head ... table ... :-(
[18:16:44] <Nikerabbit>	 DerJoerg: the params are documented in docs/hooks.txt
[18:17:19] <Nikerabbit>	 in some cases it is not obvious or even possible to get what you want form the parameters, so don't hesitate to ask if can't figure it out
[18:19:51] <DerJoerg>	 In this hook I basically want to modify the login link. I want to record the title of the page from which the user came, but then I want to redirect him somewhere else.
[18:23:23] <DerJoerg>	 No, it seems like it's working fine:
[18:23:52] <DerJoerg>	 I can use $title->mPrefixedText; to get the complete title of the current page.
[18:24:16] <DerJoerg>	 That is exactly what I wanted to have. :-) 
[18:24:20] <Nikerabbit>	 good
[18:24:23] <DerJoerg>	 Thanks for the hints!
[18:36:25] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) User notification when new gadgets are enabled on an opt-out basis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34522 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Gadgets; (b)
[18:36:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) raise template include size limit on Commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34519  (10Nemo_bis)
[18:39:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable Extension:ShortUrl on or.wikipedia, ta.wikipedia... - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1450  +comment (10b)
[18:44:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) monobook toolbar or vector with old toolbar not setup randomly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34510  +comment (10robla)
[18:44:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) User notification when new gadgets are enabled on an opt-out basis - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34522  +comment (10b)
[18:48:26] <roblaAFK>	 Nikerabbit: did you see bug 34508 ( https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508 )?
[18:48:51] <robla>	 oh, heh...yeah, you commented  :)
[18:53:37] <Nikerabbit>	 robla: yup
[18:53:49] <Nikerabbit>	 can't do much without details
[18:54:39] <robla>	 yeah, I agree.  Any other bot authors besides Krinkle that we can ping?
[18:55:34] <robla>	 also...where in the code does the log info get pulled/pushed from MediaWiki?
[19:06:53] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Add byte change also to Special:DeletedContributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34523 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (duplicatebug)
[19:07:51] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Add all the filter options from Special:Contributions to Special:DeletedContributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34524 enhancement; MediaWiki: Special pages; (duplicatebug)
[19:09:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Please show amount of text added/removed, in green/red, on history and user contributions pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25199  (10duplicatebug)
[19:16:28] <pokeswap>	 !e TEST
[19:16:28] <mw-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TEST
[19:17:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Language and direction of first heading should depend on page content language instead of user interface language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34514  +comment (10Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin))
[19:23:30] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Add class to FlaggedRevs extra messages in the protection form - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34525 normal; MediaWiki extensions: FlaggedRevs; (duplicatebug)
[19:27:47] <OffGridOps>	 MW 1.18:  General ?  If I am going to have an educational section of my MW should I create an Educational Namespace or is Category:Education sufficient?  Thanx
[19:28:41] <OffGridOps>	 education/FAQ/learning is probably all interchangable BTW
[19:33:46] <Wikinaut>	 still no commit messages in the channel ?
[19:33:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) monobook toolbar or vector with old toolbar not setup randomly - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34510  +comment (10phil.el)
[19:33:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Editing page doesn't refresh cache of redirects to that page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24737   +platformeng; +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[19:45:00] <ethanolj>	 I'm trying to embed a Flash swf file into MediaWiki using the Flash extension...once I try and put the swf file into the page though, nothing appears...anyone have any suggestions or tips?
[19:49:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Extension:NewPageCSS is merely a bugfix which should be merged into existing in-SVN extension PageCSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34453  15enhancement->normal; +comment (10Carl Austin Bennett)
[19:51:21] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) populateRevisionSha1.php misses archive rows, whose text is stored directly in the archive table (not text table) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34373  +comment (10aschulz4587)
[19:57:24] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Add support for sorting fractions in jquery.tablesorter - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/15404  +comment (10Derk-Jan Hartman)
[20:02:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [SF] Special:RunQuery enhancement to be able to populate red-links automatically - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34150  +comment (10fastgoldfish)
[20:02:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Extension:NewPageCSS is merely a bugfix which should be merged into existing in-SVN extension PageCSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34453  +comment (10carlb613)
[20:05:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Extension:NewPageCSS is merely a bugfix which should be merged into existing in-SVN extension PageCSS - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34453   +patch (10Carl Austin Bennett)
[20:31:02] <codurr>	 New code comment: Raymond; PHP Fatal error: Call to a member function mangle() on a non-object in /www/w/extensions/Translate/f; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111867#c31223>
[20:37:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [SMW] 1.6 to 1.7 property type "URL" cannot be queried by property when the URL contains equal sign character "=" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32955  +comment (10fastgoldfish)
[20:38:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Upload Wizard - The file you submitted was empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34387  (10herzi.pinki)
[20:46:02] <codurr>	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; The PEAR and mail() functionality badly needs to be split into separate functions. \ There are some i; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111832#c31224>
[20:48:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add byte change also to Special:DeletedContributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34523  normal->15enhancement (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[20:55:15] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Problem with edits after rename - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34526 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (manuelt15)
[20:55:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Problem with edits after rename - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34526  (10Manuelt15)
[20:56:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Problem with edits after rename - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34505  (10Manuelt15)
[21:00:45] <jenders>	 Hi folks, when creating custom namespaces do I need to create a category namespace for the custom namespace as well?
[21:01:03] <jenders>	 I'd prefer if the categories of my custom namespaces were isolated from the main namespace
[21:10:52] <jenders>	 or perhaps this needs to be accomplished with nested categories instead of a namespace
[21:12:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [SF] #formlink parses query strings incorrectly if there is an & character in parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34486  +comment (10badon)
[21:23:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Language and direction of first heading should depend on page content language instead of user interface language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34514  (10fomafix)
[21:33:38] <Dantman>	 O_o well now... you do learn something new every day:
[21:34:08] <Dantman>	 tests/parser/parserTest.inc@625: 'wgServer' => 'http://Britney-Spears',
[21:35:25] <Nikerabbit>	 I remember that
[21:37:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Editing fails in IE7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34458  +comment (10thewub.wiki)
[21:42:48] <jenders>	 hrm, looks like I can't deep link to a catgory with [[:Category:foo:bar]] syntax
[21:43:22] <jenders>	 so nesting categorys won't allow for this either because there can be a namespace collision for a category name from a different namespace
[21:44:04] <jenders>	 Anybody know how this can be accomplished?
[21:44:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Editing fails in IE7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34458  +comment (10the wub)
[21:44:11] * Dantman  stares at codurr

[21:44:12] <codurr>	 Creep.
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[21:50:02] <pokeswap>	 !e TEST
[21:50:02] <mw-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TEST
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[21:54:27] <Buzzbyte>	 Hello!
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[21:54:53] <Buzzbyte>	 I'm new here!
[21:56:24] <Dantman>	 Aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhh
[21:56:25] <Joan>	 Hi.
[21:56:30] <Dantman>	 Die Jenkins, DIE!!!
[21:56:37] <Joan>	 Dantman is the channel pirate.
[21:56:38] * Krenair  stares at codurr

[21:56:38] <codurr>	 Creep.
[21:56:41] <Krenair>	 :o
[21:56:43] <Joan>	 I'm the channel sassmaster.
[21:56:53] * Krenair  creeps on codurr 

[21:56:54] <codurr>	 Puck you.
[21:57:02] <codurr>	 New code comment: Amire80; The test descriptions are not really clear. "Przeszukaj" is "search", but the description says "regi; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111725#c31225>
[21:57:27] <Dantman>	 Screw phpunit
[21:58:24] <Dantman>	 This time I ran the parsertests, they all passed. I even checked that BOTH parserTest.inc and the phpunit version had the exact same config for microdata.
[21:58:58] <Dantman>	 And yet again, this screwed up phpunit version of parserTests goes and fails when the real parser test suite passed perfectly fine
[22:03:03] <wikibugs>	 04(REOPENED) Datatype quantity does not recognize comma - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32661  +comment (10Francis Hunger)
[22:07:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Datatype quantity does not recognize comma - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32661  +comment (10info)
[22:12:22] <SPQRobin>	 templates are parsed *within* the edit section link title; is this bug already known? (found it on Meta), e.g. == {{tl|test}} == then the editsection will be <a title="Edit section: parsed content of Template:Test"" ....>
[22:12:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Form inputs need to reject problem characters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30042  (10badon)
[22:15:19] <Buzzbyte>	 Can somebody please tell me how to edit the wiki navigation links without editing the code?
[22:18:02] <dbolser>	 Buzzbyte: nav links on the left?
[22:18:14] <Buzzbyte>	 yea!
[22:18:24] <dbolser>	 !toolbar
[22:18:25] <mw-bot>	 See <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ#How_do_I_add_more_buttons_on_the_edit_page.3F>, also have a look at <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CharInsert>
[22:18:32] <dbolser>	 Buzzbyte: sorry... 
[22:18:38] <OverlordQ>	 toolbox
[22:18:41] * dbolser  tries to remember what those links are called...

[22:18:52] <dbolser>	 Special:...
[22:19:16] <OverlordQ>	 !sidebar
[22:19:16] <mw-bot>	 To edit the navigation menu on the left, edit page [[MediaWiki:Sidebar]] on your wiki using its special syntax. For more details, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar
[22:19:21] <dbolser>	 OverlordQ: ++
[22:19:28] <dbolser>	 Buzzbyte: ^^
[22:19:39] <Buzzbyte>	 Thanks!
[22:21:01] <codurr>	 New code comment: TheDJ; i'm not sure how to do this. I've been tinkering with a base2 version of this formatter, but higher ; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111829#c31226>
[22:25:56] <Subfader>	 where can I find detailed documentation about hooks?
[22:27:33] <Nikerabbit>	 docs/hooks.txt
[22:28:35] <Dantman>	 Well, that's not so detailed
[22:28:54] <Dantman>	 The Manual:Hooks pages may have more info, though be careful of bad info
[22:28:56] <Dantman>	 !hooks
[22:28:56] <mw-bot>	 Hooks allow you to run functions at various points in the main MediaWiki code. For more information about using hooks in MediaWiki, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks>.
[22:30:06] <Subfader>	 I mean this external website where all code is explained.  http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks/LinkBegin reads "See documentation for Linker::link() for details" 
[22:30:26] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Create a Arbcom namespace on Russian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34527 normal; Wikimedia: Site requests; (dendil)
[22:32:00] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Templates are parsed in edit section title - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34528 major; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (robinp.1273)
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[22:35:44] <Nikerabbit>	 is it too much to asked that they would display the actual error prominently?
[22:36:29] <Nikerabbit>	 Dantman: did you cause that or was it someone else?
[22:36:47] <Dantman>	 The test suite itself is f*cked up
[22:37:04] <Dantman>	 Parsertests pass
[22:37:59] <Dantman>	 And if you have the right config the phpunit tests even pass.
[22:38:43] <Dantman>	 The phpunit tests have the same globals list as parserTest does, and they both have the same 'wgAllowMicrodataAttributes' => true, setting.
[22:39:02] <Dantman>	 But it's like the phpunit tests completely ignore the fact that it's supposed to be setting globals and decides to do nothing.
[22:43:58] <Subfader>	 in linker(), how can I check if the target is a normal page (article, category page etc) and not a link to a special or action page? $target->isContentPage() returns true on all those.
[22:45:56] <Dantman>	 hmmm?
[22:46:51] <Dantman>	 $title->isContentPage(); should return true for namespaces defined as "content", namely the main namespace, others like the MW namespace, categories, etc... will be false
[22:47:26] <Dantman>	 !$title->isSpecialPage(); can be used to match all non-special pages
[22:47:26] <mw-bot>	 I don't know anything about "$title->isspecialpage();".
[22:50:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [SF] #formlink parses query strings incorrectly if there is an & character in parameters - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34486  +comment (10Yaron Koren)
[22:50:42] <Buzzbyte>	 Can somebody please tell me how to edit the wiki "Page" tab for a specific page without editing the code?
[22:51:14] <Dantman>	 For a specific page?
[22:51:17] <Joan>	 What do you want to change it to?
[22:51:19] <Buzzbyte>	 yea!
[22:51:24] <Joan>	 And which page?
[22:51:47] <Buzzbyte>	 For the main page
[22:52:09] <Buzzbyte>	 ...and some others
[22:52:23] <Joan>	 The main page is a special case.
[22:52:37] <Joan>	 If you're running a newer version of MediaWiki, you can edit "MediaWiki:Mainpage-nstab".
[22:52:49] <Joan>	 For arbitrary pages, you'll need JavaScript or CSS.
[22:53:09] <Buzzbyte>	 ok thanks!
[22:53:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [RT] "All" and "None" buttons do not work in MediaWiki 1.18 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33479  +comment (10Yaron Koren)
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[22:57:05] <Subfader>	 Dantman: Hm, both doesn't work.  But it seems I need another function actually I want to match links to content pages but not action pages. For example on a history page that would be all links to the user and their talk pages.
[22:57:50] <Dantman>	 Title has no information about the query
[23:01:54] <Dantman>	 Nikerabbit: Something calls Sanitizer::removeHTMLtags without setting the proper globals. The stuff gets statically cached. Then the parser test code sets globals when it's too late.
[23:06:21] <Dantman>	 Wow... php.net lost one of it's mirrors
[23:06:46] <Joan>	 RIP.
[23:08:21] <Dantman>	 Buhbye ca2
[23:08:42] <Dantman>	 http://ca2.php.net/
[23:12:44] <wikibugs>	 04(REOPENED) Prevent creation of new (unattached?) SUL accounts with already unified names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29234  +comment (10Krenair)
[23:16:04] <Dantman>	 Aaaaaaagggghhhhh...
[23:16:17] <Dantman>	 No, the ENTIRE test suite is screwed up
[23:17:06] <Dantman>	 It doesn't take static caching into account and delays the setting of globals until after it's already executed code that may depend on the globals
[23:17:18] <Dantman>	 :/ Who authored this stuff.
[23:18:49] <pokeswap>	 !e TEST
[23:18:49] <mw-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TEST
[23:25:32] <codurr>	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; Likewise with getFileContents() too.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/110042#c31227>
[23:26:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  +comment (10Tim Starling)
[23:26:36] <wikibugs>	 14(WFM) Prevent creation of new (unattached?) SUL accounts with already unified names - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29234  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[23:30:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  +comment (10federicoleva)
[23:38:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Create a Arbcom namespace on Russian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34527  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[23:39:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Problem with edits after rename - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34526  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[23:39:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Incomplete user renames (and other username discrepancies) (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29757  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[23:41:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable Narayam on Kannada Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34516  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[23:42:59] <Reedy>	 We should just disable user renames
[23:43:00] <Reedy>	 much easier
[23:43:19] <Buzzbyte>	 use /away
[23:43:48] <Buzzbyte>	 That is much easier!
[23:44:00] * Buzzbyte  is away: test

[23:44:05] * Buzzbyte  is back (gone 00:00:06)

[23:44:10] <Buzzbyte>	 see!
[23:44:16] <johnduhart>	 That is more annoying
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[23:44:42] <Dantman>	 Buzzbyte: Disable that extra script you have
[23:44:54] <wikibugs>	 14(DUP) strange behaviour on tenwiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34513  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[23:44:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Username rename on locked wikis fail with error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34501  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
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[23:45:07] * johnduhart  continues playing with System Center 2012

[23:45:11] <Buzzbyte>	 What do you mean?
[23:45:36] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Special pages should link to in-wiki documentation - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34500  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[23:45:50] <Buzzbyte>	 the /away command?
[23:46:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Please support https for http://labs.wikimedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34367  normal->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[23:46:39] * Buzzbyte  is wondering what is going on...

[23:46:43] <johnduhart>	 Buzzbyte: Yes
[23:47:12] <Buzzbyte>	 XChat does it for me!
[23:47:28] <Buzzbyte>	 I'll stop using it!
[23:47:46] <Buzzbyte>	 if it's annoying
[23:48:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Search engine is unstable, producing false "not found" result - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34518  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[23:48:18] <Buzzbyte>	 but i dont think it is
[23:48:31] <Reedy>	 it gives no useful information
[23:48:48] <johnduhart>	 Buzzbyte: Sure, there's a script that actually makes the ACTION messages
[23:48:50] <Krenair>	 Buzzbyte, going away should not trigger privmsg to be sent.
[23:53:38] <TimStarling>	 any rabbits around?
[23:53:45] <TimStarling>	 any sportswear brand will do
[23:53:55] <Reedy>	 As in the Finnish type?
[23:54:03] <Krenair>	 TimStarling: I... Wait what?
[23:54:07] <TimStarling>	 could be finnish
[23:54:34] <Reedy>	 He's marked away, and it's nearly 2 am for him...
[23:54:39] <TimStarling>	 or anyone who has reviewed the new logging code
[23:57:00] <TimStarling>	 I'm just looking at bug 34508, trying to work out how it fits together
[23:58:02] <TimStarling>	 no big deal, I'll have it figured out within a few minutes I'm sure
[23:58:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Language and direction of first heading should depend on page content language instead of user interface language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34514  (10fomafix)