[00:08:31] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Editconflicts while prepending or appending text (action=edit) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34580 enhancement; MediaWiki: API; (rainerrillke)
[00:19:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) 'mw.user.options' and 'mw.user.tokens' are sometimes empty on 1.19, breaking watchlist, gadgets, etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34409  +comment (10roan.kattouw)
[00:21:57] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) 'mw.user.options' and 'mw.user.tokens' are sometimes empty on 1.19, breaking watchlist, gadgets, etc. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34409  +comment (10Roan Kattouw)
[00:31:53] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) removeUnusedAccounts.php needs to ignore the now always present new user log entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34581 normal; MediaWiki: Maintenance scripts; (jidanni)
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[00:37:21] <sumanah>	 hi bharath 
[00:37:37] <bharath>	 hi sumanah
[00:39:23] <sumanah>	 TimStarling, AaronSchulz, are you absorbed by deployment stuff or will you have time for the commit access review meeting in 6 min?
[00:40:16] <bharath>	 sumanah : can I see code of some simple extensions  , because I can't understand the hooks
[00:40:37] <sumanah>	 bharath: have you already looked at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/List_of_simple_extensions ?
[00:40:51] <sumanah>	 bharath: including https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Special_pages#Basic_special_page_template ?
[00:41:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Include language name placeholder in message livetranslate-translate-to - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26845   +need-review +patch; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[00:44:12] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Yippie, build fixed!
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[00:44:48] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Yippie, build fixed!
[00:44:49] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit build #7737: FIXED in 3 min 29 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/MediaWiki-sqlite-phpunit/7737/
[00:44:59] <bharath>	 sumanah: If I create an extension like showing visitors IP address  ,how can I show the extension in the main page rather than in special page
[00:45:57] <Reedy>	 Make it an includable special page
[00:49:00] <samineru>	 Is there a way to find internal links to pages that have not yet been created, in particular categories?
[00:50:03] <Reedy>	 Special:WantedPages will giveyou that
[00:50:09] <Reedy>	 not for pages in a category though
[00:50:51] <samineru>	 I was not clear, I was looking for categories that haven't been yet created. That works great. Thank you Reedy.
[00:54:06] <p858snake|l>	 samineru: WantedCategories
[00:54:43] <sumanah>	 TrevorParscal: am I right in presuming you're ok with giving Ashish D extensions commit access?
[00:56:05] <samineru>	 p858snake|l, thanks, I was confused  by some categories I saw on the wantedpages page, I now realize I had specifically linked to those and wouldn't have noticed the other missing categories
[00:57:23] <Krenair>	 samineru, Special:SpecialPages is a good reference for this sort of thing
[00:57:43] <sumanah>	 TrevorParscal: I'm making a judgment call that I'm fine with it
[00:57:51] <samineru>	 Krenair, I was just thinking about looking for a page like that! This channel is so helpful :)
[01:01:47] <sumanah>	 samineru: :-) 
[01:01:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Upload Wizard - The file you submitted was empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34387  +comment (10Erik Moeller)
[01:02:21] <sumanah>	 samineru: what city are you nearest? are you thinking of coming to any of our developer and training events?
[01:02:54] <pokeswap>	 !E TEST'
[01:02:55] <mw-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TEST%27
[01:02:59] <samineru>	 sumanah: I'm near Albany in upstate NY. 
[01:03:17] <samineru>	 Where can I find info on those?
[01:03:18] <sumanah>	 samineru: oh cool, I'm in New York City.  We have a few people in the larger tristate area
[01:03:23] <sumanah>	 !events | samineru 
[01:03:24] <mw-bot>	 samineru: We run face-to-face events for MediaWiki developers and people who want to learn: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_developer_meetings We also have online meetings in IRC to triage bugs: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Triage
[01:03:37] <sumanah>	 samineru: if you're free in July, you should come to Wikimania
[01:03:38] <sumanah>	 !wikimania
[01:03:39] <mw-bot>	 Wikimania, the worldwide Wikimedia conference, is 10-15 July 2012 in Washington, DC, USA, including developers' days 10-11 July. See http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/ and https://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hackathon
[01:04:16] <pokeswap>	 !e TEST
[01:04:16] <mw-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TEST
[01:05:14] <sumanah>	 pokeswap: you keep doing that over and over.  The bot that responds to ! commands (mw-bot) has not changed how it responds.  Why are you doing that over and over again?
[01:05:56] <pokeswap>	 i need help with the extension
[01:11:17] <sumanah>	 pokeswap: you may get more help at http://www.mwusers.com/forums/forum.php
[01:13:07] <Krenair>	 pokeswap, repeating the command is not going to get anyone to help you
[01:22:30] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Merging account from meta to global account - "Call to undefined method SpecialMergeAccount::doUnattach" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34582 normal; MediaWiki: Special pages; (sumanah)
[01:33:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) RDNS link in "checkuser-toollinks" message dead - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30863  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[01:36:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Merging account from meta to global account - "Call to undefined method SpecialMergeAccount::doUnattach" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34582  +comment (10Chris McMahon)
[01:39:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Merging account from meta to global account - "Call to undefined method SpecialMergeAccount::doUnattach" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34582  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[01:39:37] <exco_>	 I have a problem with a plugin (semantic maps) should I revert back to 1.18 or use 1.19 - which are both known to work with semantic maps ?
[01:40:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Merging account from meta to global account - "Call to undefined method SpecialMergeAccount::doUnattach" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34582  +comment (10sumanah)
[01:46:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Merging account from meta to global account - "Call to undefined method SpecialMergeAccount::doUnattach" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34582  +comment (10sam)
[01:52:20] <Dantman>	 Hmmm... starting to get RDFa now
[01:56:18] <TrevorParscal>	 sumanah: yes
[01:57:16] <sumanah>	 TrevorParscal: good :-)
[01:57:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Merging account from meta to global account - "Call to undefined method SpecialMergeAccount::doUnattach" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34582  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[01:57:33] <Reedy>	 sumanah: mind trying again please?
[01:57:50] <sumanah>	 also, TrevorParscal I know your 20% day is over but there are some outstanding patches I would love for your team to address sometime soon
[01:57:52] <sumanah>	 Reedy: ok
[01:58:13] <sumanah>	 Reedy: any need to reload the page, log in & out, anything like that?
[01:58:19] <TrevorParscal>	 yeah, we usually do a bit here and there throughout the week
[01:58:39] <Reedy>	 sumanah: just visit https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MergeAccount again
[01:58:42] <Reedy>	 check it doesn't error out
[01:59:03] <sumanah>	 Reedy: I got "Login unification complete!" when I visited that URL
[01:59:08] <sumanah>	 "You can now log in to any wiki site of the Wikimedia Foundation without creating a new account. "
[01:59:23] <sumanah>	 Reedy: it didn't give me guff about putting my password in
[01:59:35] <sumanah>	 so you can mark that bug resolved-fixed, I presume.
[01:59:46] <Reedy>	 if the password is the same on the site, it won't ask for a password
[01:59:47] <Reedy>	 Cool
[02:00:08] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Merging account from meta to global account - "Call to undefined method SpecialMergeAccount::doUnattach" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34582  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[02:02:34] <sumanah>	 ok, back in an hour
[02:17:23] * Dantman  wishes php would just give in and introduce getter syntax

[02:17:45] <robla>	 I thought it already had it
[02:18:04] <Dantman>	 It has __get __set.
[02:18:13] <Dantman>	 I'm talking REAL accessors tied to a name.
[02:18:33] <robla>	 oh...righto
[02:18:36] <Dantman>	 public getter foo() { return 'foo'; } or public get foo() { return 'foo'; }
[02:18:50] <Dantman>	 For $o->foo
[02:19:24] * robla  guesses Dantman does a little python

[02:19:37] <Dantman>	 Actually JavaScript
[02:19:54] <Dantman>	 An a bit of ruby
[02:29:19] <RoanKattouw_away>	 C# has this
[02:29:30] <RoanKattouw_away>	 One of the few things I liked about it
[02:32:05] <Dantman>	 TR/REC-XML-names section 6.3 "the second because the default namespace does not apply to attribute names"
[02:32:11] <Dantman>	 0_0!!!!
[02:33:28] <p858snake|l>	 RoanKattouw_away: only 3 bz reports in the last 21 have reported more closes than opens
[02:33:36] <RoanKattouw_away>	 Oh wow
[02:33:42] <RoanKattouw_away>	 Well that's more than I thought still
[02:34:42] <Dantman>	 <foo xmlns="http://example.org/foo/" xmlns:bar="http://example.org/bar/"><baz asdf="qwerty" bar:hello="world" /></foo>
[02:36:13] <Dantman>	 O_o the inner element is equiv to <"http://example.org/foo/baz" "asdf"="qwerty" "http://example.org/bar/hello"="world">
[02:36:32] <Dantman>	 NOT <"http://example.org/foo/baz" "http://example.org/foo/asdf"="qwerty" "http://example.org/bar/hello"="world">
[02:37:30] <p858snake|l>	 RoanKattouw_away: It drops down to 2 if I inculde assigned in the open figures
[02:40:06] <p858snake|l>	 http://localhostr.com/file/qdRWqU6/Capture%202.PNG
[02:51:29] <Dantman>	  ...no gwike
[02:51:36] <Dantman>	 gwicke*
[03:08:07] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  +comment (10Rob Lanphier)
[03:27:21] <wikibugs>	 14(DUP) #formlink should be able to link to Special:RunQuery - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33425  +comment (10Yaron Koren)
[03:27:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [SF] 2.4; Add new parser function #queryformlink - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34309  +comment (10yaron57)
[03:33:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Global JavaScript not loading on some sites - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34482  +comment (10Hazard-SJ)
[03:35:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Default=now does not work with "Creates pages with form" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34549  summary; +comment (10Yaron Koren)
[03:38:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) SF Override parameter. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22993  +comment (10yaron57)
[03:46:04] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Path in category box is absolute instead of relative - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26564  +comment (10Yaron Koren)
[03:59:10] <Dantman>	 RDFa extension looks like it's implemented wierdly
[03:59:20] <Dantman>	 Though admitantly some of the ideas are pretty good.
[04:02:11] <kaldari>	 ExtensionDistributor on mediawiki.org seems to be down.
[04:03:10] <Hazard-SJ>	 kaldari: Checking.
[04:04:45] <Hazard-SJ>	 kaldari: Correct, it's down, just like noc. :(
[04:04:51] <kaldari>	 If I try to generate a snapshot of any extension, I get the error "Unable to contact remote subversion client."
[04:04:51] * Hazard-SJ  goes to Bugzilla

[04:05:00] <p858snake|l>	 kaldari: probably when the NFS stuff happened earlier, TimStarling and others are currently working on depolyment issues
[04:05:41] <p858snake|l>	 But they are aware about the issue
[04:05:44] <TimStarling>	 yes, I stopped xinetd and apache since fenari was unresponsive because of some kind of NFS overload
[04:06:40] <kaldari>	 cool, just wanted to make sure people were aware. carry on :)
[04:09:43] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) On MediaWiki.org, ExtensionDistributor is down. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34583 normal; Wikimedia: Subversion; (hazard_sj)
[04:10:16] <Hazard-SJ>	 p858snake|l: NFS?
[04:10:50] <Joan>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_File_System
[04:12:46] <Hazard-SJ>	 TimStarling: So do I need to file a bug about noc being down or is that okay?
[04:13:01] <TimStarling>	 suit yourself
[04:17:04] * Hazard-SJ  gets to it

[04:18:18] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Noc is down - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34584 normal; Wikimedia: General/Unknown; (hazard_sj)
[04:18:43] <OffGridOps>	 i am going to attend wikimania in dc and want to post about it on my site to try to encourage folks i interact with to attend as well.  am i allowed to use the banner or is that taboo
[04:20:26] <sumanah>	 OffGridOps: you should ask in the #wikimania channel
[04:20:40] <sumanah>	 OffGridOps: they can tell you what's allowed regarding reuse of the Wikimania logo
[04:21:28] <OffGridOps>	 sumanah, very good!  also if they say cool it gives this error: File extension ".svg" does not match the detected MIME type of the file (image/png)
[04:21:50] <sumanah>	 OffGridOps: where do you see this error?
[04:22:08] <OffGridOps>	 when i tried to upload the logo earlier and it happens w/others every now and then
[04:22:19] <OffGridOps>	 sorry on my wiki  1.18.1
[04:25:21] <p858snake|l>	 !svg | OffGridOps
[04:25:22] <mw-bot>	 OffGridOps: For more information regarding SVGs in MediaWiki, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/SVG>.
[04:28:50] <OffGridOps>	 # SVG Support
[04:28:50] <OffGridOps>	 $wgFileExtensions[] = 'svg';
[04:28:50] <OffGridOps>	 $wgAllowTitlesInSVG = true; is in my local settings
[04:36:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add Telugu Transliteration input method to Narayam - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33480  +comment (10Santhosh Thottingal)
[04:49:06] <Dantman>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Dantman/Output_Metadata/Namespace_API
[04:52:40] <p858snake|l>	 hmm I thought the new message disappeared if you went to another page and ignored it...
[05:20:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) CentralNotice load fails, shows JS errors in IE 7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34572  +comment (10rkaldari)
[05:21:14] <sumanah>	 hi santhosh 
[05:21:26] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add Telugu Transliteration input method to Narayam - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33480  +comment (10veeven)
[05:21:32] <sumanah>	 do you have a moment to help me see whether particular i18n bugs should be tagged "easy"?
[05:21:44] <santhosh>	 Hi sumanah
[05:21:47] <santhosh>	 sure
[05:21:56] <sumanah>	 ok, santhosh - I'll move into the i18n channel
[05:26:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add username in new messages bar to prevent UI spoofing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/12693   +easy; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[05:26:43] <Kr1ks>	 Hi, I get "FastCgiIpcDir /var/lib/apache2/fastcgi: access for server (uid 4294967295, gid 4294967295) failed: write not allowed"
[05:26:43] <Kr1ks>	 I am not sure what that uid is. The user and group apache runs on are of id 80.
[05:26:44] <Kr1ks>	 I don't see that uid or gid in /etc/passwd /etc/group
[05:27:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) CentralNotice load fails, shows JS errors in IE 7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34572  +comment (10rkaldari)
[05:29:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) CentralNotice load fails, shows JS errors in IE 7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34572  +comment (10p858snake)
[05:31:13] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) fix help for signature in WikiEditor - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/25458  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[05:34:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) custom license: wrong link to Copyright_tags - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33544   +easy; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[05:35:30] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) add a summary message for Special:DeletedContributions - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34319   +easy; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[05:38:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) CentralNotice load fails on test2.wikipedia.org, shows JS errors in IE 7 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34572  summary; +comment (10Ryan Kaldari)
[05:44:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Message missing from i18n - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33032   +easy; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[05:52:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) New feedback dialog. Not translated to German - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33363  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[06:02:42] <sumanah>	 ok, santhosh -- added a few items to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_little_bugs
[06:10:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Preferences return "Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags." error, when the HTML is alright. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16941  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[06:24:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add a horizontal table of contents to Special:SpecialPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13862   +design; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[06:25:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Api documentation on mw.org is out of date, incomplete - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29936  +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[06:35:28] <chaospsychex>	 hi
[06:35:49] <chaospsychex>	 i have the 'wikitext' extension installed but it's not being using when i edit pages? how come?
[06:36:55] <sumanah>	 hi chaospsychex 
[06:37:19] <chaospsychex>	 hi
[06:37:27] <sumanah>	 chaospsychex: is the extension listed in your wiki's Special:Version page?
[06:37:31] <chaospsychex>	 yes
[06:37:41] <sumanah>	 ok, so it is probably properly installed
[06:37:56] <sumanah>	 chaospsychex: did you check in your user preferences to see if you have to turn it on for your user account as well?
[06:38:05] <chaospsychex>	 WikiEditor
[06:38:21] * sumanah  looks at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiEditor

[06:38:25] <chaospsychex>	 i looked but didnt see anything .wait is that a special page i have to go to
[06:38:54] <sumanah>	 chaospsychex: Special:Preferences
[06:39:13] <chaospsychex>	 so Special:References ?
[06:39:39] <sumanah>	 chaospsychex: at the top of the page, look for "My preferences"
[06:40:01] <sumanah>	 chaospsychex: look around in there
[06:40:01] <chaospsychex>	 ok
[06:40:07] <chaospsychex>	 let me look
[06:40:49] <sumanah>	 you'll notice that the URL has Special:Preferences in it
[06:41:00] <chaospsychex>	 do i have to use a certain Skin to be able to use it? i'm using Vector[default] right now
[06:41:43] <sumanah>	 Vector should work fine
[06:42:36] <sumanah>	 chaospsychex: so what kind of editing user interface are you getting when you try to edit a page? is there any kind of toolbar at all?
[06:42:43] <sumanah>	 like in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiEditor ?
[06:43:00] <kaldari>	 You might need to check "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" under the editing tab in your preferences
[06:43:41] <sumanah>	 that's under a "beta features" heading in my preferences, chaospsychex, in the "Editing" tab of the preferences
[06:43:47] <sumanah>	 (hi kaldari how are you?)
[06:43:55] <kaldari>	 howdy! good
[06:43:57] <chaospsychex>	 i see it, its checked now
[06:44:58] <kaldari>	 we really need an "Extensions" tab
[06:45:16] <chaospsychex>	 i don't see it still, not there
[06:45:22] <sumanah>	 kaldari: the preferences section, as you know, has been accreting tabs every which way
[06:45:28] <chaospsychex>	 when i am editing the page there is no 'editing toolbar'
[06:45:31] <chaospsychex>	 and the box is checked
[06:45:32] <sumanah>	 chaospsychex: refresh your cache?
[06:45:46] * sumanah  is grabbing at straws a bit

[06:45:52] <chaospsychex>	 i opened firefox was using midori
[06:46:10] <sumanah>	 kaldari: I have a secret hope that limograf will save us with magical design sensibilities
[06:47:05] <sumanah>	 chaospsychex: I don't know, sorry. maybe someone else here can help, or you could try the mailing list
[06:47:08] <sumanah>	 !lists | chaospsychex 
[06:47:08] <mw-bot>	 chaospsychex: mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details.
[06:48:11] <limograf>	 heh, yeah, i've been pondering the preferences
[06:48:31] <chaospsychex>	 it's ok, i will just learn the 'syntax'
[06:48:42] <chaospsychex>	 don't need the toolbar, after all. i use archlinux
[06:48:47] <kaldari>	 chaospsychex: I assume you have require_once( "$IP/extensions/WikiEditor/WikiEditor.php" ); in your LocalSettings file?
[06:49:06] <chaospsychex>	 kaldari: let me look
[06:49:20] <sumanah>	 I assumed as much because it showed up in the site's Special:Version list
[06:49:26] <sumanah>	 but mayhap I am mistaken
[06:49:42] <kaldari>	 yeah, that should be a good indication :)
[06:50:02] <chaospsychex>	 kaldari: yes it's there
[06:50:42] <kaldari>	 and I assume you're using something like MediaWiki 1.16 or newer?
[06:51:25] <kaldari>	 actually, looks like it needs 1.17 according to the MediaWiki page
[06:51:46] <kaldari>	 in 1.16 it was part of a different extension
[06:52:15] <chaospsychex>	 let me see
[06:52:40] <chaospsychex>	 media wiki 1.18.1
[06:52:43] <kaldari>	 cool
[06:52:48] <kaldari>	 that should work then
[06:53:08] <chaospsychex>	 i have it checked in my settings under beta
[06:53:16] <kaldari>	 that's all you have to do
[06:53:22] <kaldari>	 it should be working now
[06:53:22] <chaospsychex>	 its not working
[06:53:25] <kaldari>	 :(
[06:53:27] <chaospsychex>	 nope
[06:54:12] <chaospsychex>	 is there something else that needs to be checked to enable it
[06:54:24] <kaldari>	 just checked in my 1.18.1 install locally, and it works fine <shrug>
[06:54:34] <sumanah>	 at this point, chaospsychex you may want to try https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:WikiEditor
[06:54:34] <kaldari>	 not that I know of...
[06:54:50] <sumanah>	 chaospsychex: to ask the other users, and the authors, of this extension
[06:55:40] <kaldari>	 the extensions I have installed are ParserFunctions, Renameuser, WikiEditor, and Vector
[06:55:43] <sumanah>	 chaospsychex: example: uncheck --"Enable dialogs for inserting links, tables and more"  in preferences and see if that helps
[06:56:03] <sumanah>	 there are other ideas there as well
[06:56:11] <chaospsychex>	 well what do you know, there seems to be problems with the extension and the Vector skin
[06:56:16] <sumanah>	 :-/
[06:56:18] <chaospsychex>	 such as 'toolbar not appearing'
[06:56:19] <chaospsychex>	 lol
[06:56:22] <chaospsychex>	 let me change the skin
[06:56:24] <sumanah>	 I'm sorry
[06:56:44] <kaldari>	 weird, it works in Vector for me
[06:56:45] <sumanah>	 I presumed that, since it's enabled on sites that run the Vector skin (like WMF sites) then there would not be a problem!
[06:57:21] <kaldari>	 do you have any weird gadgets or user scripts installed?
[06:57:23] <sumanah>	 also since Trevor was an author both of WikiEditor and of Vector
[06:58:37] <chaospsychex>	 no this is a basic install
[06:58:42] <chaospsychex>	 haven't installed anything extra
[06:58:51] <chaospsychex>	 doesn't work after changing skin either, to hell with it
[06:58:59] <chaospsychex>	 i need to get busy adding content to the wiki
[06:59:52] <kaldari>	 do any errors show up in your error console?
[07:00:39] <chaospsychex>	 where would that be?
[07:00:48] <chaospsychex>	 Error:Console ?
[07:01:03] <kaldari>	 in Firefox Tools->Web Developer->Error Console
[07:01:50] <kaldari>	 You might have to clear it and reload the editing page if there's a lot of crap in it already
[07:02:01] <chaospsychex>	 ok when i click edit on a page there is 'unterminated regular expression literal'
[07:02:11] <kaldari>	 oooh
[07:02:19] <kaldari>	 now we're getting somewhere
[07:02:31] <chaospsychex>	 what does that mean
[07:02:36] <kaldari>	 no idea
[07:02:46] <chaospsychex>	 lolol
[07:02:58] <chaospsychex>	 but you said 'now we're getting somewhere'
[07:03:01] <kaldari>	 but it's enough to file a bug with
[07:03:04] <chaospsychex>	 like thats what you were looking for
[07:03:36] <chaospsychex>	 it even says that on analytics.hosting23.com
[07:03:45] <chaospsychex>	 i think its unrelated to the toolbar
[07:04:12] <chaospsychex>	 i'm not even worried about it, i will learn the syntax
[07:04:34] <kaldari>	 if the browser hits a javascript error, it may not load the rest of the javascript
[07:05:36] <kaldari>	 analytics.hosting23.com doesn't seem to be a website
[07:05:42] <chaospsychex>	 that toolbar is basic anyway, i will just learn the syntax
[07:05:45] <chaospsychex>	 hosting24
[07:07:46] <kaldari>	 I don't get any error at analytics.hosting24.com. Perhaps you have a greasemonkey script or some Firefox add-on that is causing a javascript error and thus breaking other things unitentionally
[07:08:18] <kaldari>	 my final suggestion is disabling all your Firefox add-ons and restarting Firefox
[07:08:42] <chaospsychex>	 lol it didn't work in midori either
[07:08:45] <chaospsychex>	 but hey
[07:09:05] <chaospsychex>	 is the infobox thingy installed by default or is it an extension?
[07:09:16] <kaldari>	 also, does your error message in the Error console have any more information
[07:09:28] <chaospsychex>	 nope, just that msg i told you
[07:09:45] <kaldari>	 oh yeah, I would also try adding &debug=true to the end of the URL on your editing page and loading that
[07:10:40] <chaospsychex>	 doesn't load the toolbar
[07:10:47] <kaldari>	 same error message?
[07:10:55] <chaospsychex>	 yes
[07:11:00] <kaldari>	 does it give you a line number or anything?
[07:11:34] <chaospsychex>	 no
[07:11:40] <chaospsychex>	 there's alot of errors
[07:11:40] <kaldari>	 oh well
[07:11:46] <chaospsychex>	 but the toolbar is disabled
[07:11:51] <chaospsychex>	 anyway the infobox thing
[07:11:53] <kaldari>	 I'm stumped then
[07:11:59] <chaospsychex>	 is it something that has to be installed extra?
[07:12:08] <kaldari>	 infoboxes are created by templates
[07:12:17] <kaldari>	 don't have to install anything
[07:12:23] <kaldari>	 but you have to create the templates
[07:12:43] <kaldari>	 and most of the infobox templates on en.wiki require the ParserFunctions extension
[07:12:52] <kaldari>	 if you're going to copy those
[07:13:12] <chaospsychex>	 well not going to copy the info in the infobox but i like the info box
[07:13:29] <kaldari>	 I meant copy the infobox templates, not the infobox data
[07:13:42] <chaospsychex>	 nah will just further complicate the process. i already dont know how to use mediawiki
[07:13:52] <chaospsychex>	 add further complication
[07:13:53] <kaldari>	 like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_artist
[07:14:15] <kaldari>	 sadly, they aren't built in
[07:15:04] <codurr>	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; I don't want these messages to be translated.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112061#c31329>
[07:15:51] <kaldari>	 ok, I need to go to bed
[07:16:09] <kaldari>	 or at least get off IRC :)
[07:16:13] <kaldari>	 night all!
[07:16:19] <chaospsychex>	 thanks for you help
[07:16:29] <kaldari>	 sorry you didn't have more luck
[07:27:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) SemanticMediaWiki: Regression in 1.7.0.2 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34573  +comment (10Markus Krötzsch)
[07:28:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Allow selecting all namespaces on Special:UnreviewedPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34568  +comment (10aschulz4587)
[07:30:18] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) German Wikiversity offline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34585 blocker; Wikimedia: Site requests; (jan)
[07:32:59] <p858snake|l>	 Tim-away: ^^^
[07:34:38] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [SRF] 1.7 [patch]: SRF_Gallery.php Fatal error: Call to a member function addImage() line 166 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34411  +comment (10MWJames)
[07:36:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [SRF] 1.7 [patch]: SRF_Gallery.php introduce new parameter galleryformat for jcarousel plug-in - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34411  summary (10MWJames)
[07:49:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) German Wikiversity offline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34585  +comment (10jan)
[07:50:49] <codurr>	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Is this the only caller, or do we need the $wgUser default for other callers?; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112054#c31330>
[07:54:19] <codurr>	 New code comment: IAlex; These are the only callers in core, but it remains one in <tt>extensions/InterwikiIntegration/Interw; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112054#c31331>
[08:01:36] * Dantman  contemplates how evil it would be to mark up Special:SpecialPages with RDFa describing special pages for no purpose at all

[08:09:57] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) German Wikiversity offline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34585  +comment (10Ariel T. Glenn)
[08:12:19] <codurr>	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Classical.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112074#c31332>
[08:14:49] <codurr>	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; wfMessage is the new thing.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112079#c31333>
[08:18:34] <codurr>	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; Needs a code comment or something.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111991#c31334>
[08:19:04] <codurr>	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Wow.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112083#c31335>
[08:24:49] <codurr>	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Why?; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111991#c31336>
[08:26:19] <codurr>	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; Otherwise someone might have it go back to the way it was before, thinking it's better.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111991#c31337>
[08:27:49] <codurr>	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; I don't think anybody would do that that way. Language::getLanguageNames is more likely and doesn't ; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111991#c31338>
[08:29:07] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Upload Wizard - The file you submitted was empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34387  +comment (10David Crochet)
[08:36:49] <badon>	 Is there any way to execute a shell script that contains data generated by a wiki template?
[08:37:44] <badon>	 I need to run maintenance only on specific pages that are in dynamically generated lists (SMW concepts, like MW categories sorta)
[08:57:19] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Make Feedback text length configurable/increase it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34586 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Moodbar; (srik.lak)
[08:57:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Tamil Wiki projects (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32578  (10Srikanth Logic)
[08:58:34] <codurr>	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; It works, thanks.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112059#c31339>
[09:00:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) RTL title ending in a neutral-direction character displays incorrectly when viewing in an LTR language - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32403  (10fomafix)
[09:01:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sometimes scripts imported by mw.loader.load on common.js are not executed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34517  +comment (10Michael M.)
[09:03:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) mw.loader.load calls document.write from asynchronous scripts - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34542  +comment (10listenleser)
[09:09:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Set default for $wgVectorUseSimpleSearch to true - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29374  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[09:15:08] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Collapsible tabs start collapsing from the wrong side first in RTL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34587 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Vector; (niklas.laxstrom)
[09:19:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[09:20:52] <wikibugs>	 03(WONTFIX) Narayam resources folder needs tidying up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34296  +comment (10Niklas Laxström)
[09:27:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Narayam resources folder needs tidying up - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34296  (10p858snake)
[09:38:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) New aliases for ko.wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34407  +comment (10kht1992)
[09:41:33] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Make Feedback text length configurable/increase it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34586  +comment (10srik.lak)
[09:53:53] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) EtherpadLite: Links in the pad's iframe are rendered as links but are not clickable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34588 normal; MediaWiki extensions: EtherpadLite; (mail)
[09:54:27] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) EtherpadLite: Links in the pad's iframe are rendered as links but are not clickable - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34588  (10T. Gries)
[10:04:10] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Internal Error on MediaWiki when I want to inspect my recent commit https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111979 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34554  +comment (10hashar)
[10:11:48] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Internal Error on MediaWiki when I want to inspect my recent commit https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111979 - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34554  +comment (10Antoine "hashar" Musso)
[10:19:34] <codurr>	 New code comment: Santhosh.thottingal; More info about this compression format: https://code.google.com/p/sfntly/wiki/MicroTypeExpress; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112097#c31340>
[10:24:51] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Content of <references/> not shown when other parser extensions are active - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34589 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Cite; (mail)
[10:24:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Content of <references/> not shown when other parser extensions are active - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34589  (10T. Gries)
[12:15:24] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Can't authenticate using my mother language username (UNICODE) when I only have (a public) access to Wikipedia with an ASCII (english) keyboard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34590 normal; MediaWiki: User login; (nicolas.brouard)
[12:30:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) LiquidThreads uses css clearing code that breaks overflow on the content area - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34556  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[12:31:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Fix uses of width: 100%; with borders - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34557  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[12:32:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Support for overflow: auto; on the content area (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34558  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[12:32:34] <codurr>	 New code comment: Siebrand; Maybe set these to ignored, as they're solely used for irc and will be removed again (hopefully some; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112100#c31341>
[12:33:49] <codurr>	 New code comment: Siebrand; Oops. Should have read the complete commit message :). Excellent work.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112100#c31342>
[12:43:18] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Update "Web browser" field in Bugzilla - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34561  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[12:43:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Incorrect rendering of chess board to pdf - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34562  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[12:48:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) wikimedia.com should redirect to wikimedia.org rather than showing 'Wiki does not exist' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34563  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[12:49:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Modify the URL to upload files in eswiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34566   +shell (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[12:50:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Set wgBabelMainCategory to false for dewiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34570  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[12:51:05] <wikibugs>	 14(INVALID) Installation is broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34571  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[12:55:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) jenkins/github integration broken since Feb 13th - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34578  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[12:57:53] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) removeUnusedAccounts.php needs to ignore the now always present new user log entry - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34581  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[12:58:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) wikimedia.com should redirect to wikimedia.org rather than showing 'Wiki does not exist' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34563  +comment (10mediawiki)
[12:58:22] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) On MediaWiki.org, ExtensionDistributor is down. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34583  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[12:58:31] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Noc is down - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34584  +comment (10Hydra)
[13:10:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Search box highlight - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19935  +comment (10Jon)
[13:10:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Create a Arbcom namespace on Russian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34527  (10Uncle Fred)
[13:11:00] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sometimes scripts imported by mw.loader.load on common.js are not executed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34517  (10mybugs.mail)
[13:13:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Add a horizontal table of contents to Special:SpecialPages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/13862   +easy (10Chad H.)
[13:28:54] <sumanah>	 hi jdlrobson 
[13:29:03] <jdlrobson>	 hi sumanah
[13:29:34] <sumanah>	 thanks for the patch review in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112103
[13:30:23] <sumanah>	 jdlrobson: if that fixes the issue as listed in the bug "Someone requested that when you click on the search box, the text be highlighted instead of the cursor going to the end of the word."  then please go ahead and mark that bug as resolved-fixed.
[13:30:56] <sumanah>	 also, jdlrobson, you can use your judgment, but if you use a substantive patch from someone else, it's nice to add them to the CREDITS file
[13:31:34] <jdlrobson>	 which credits file would that be? also I can't mark bug as resolved-fixed - i don't have the right permissions
[13:31:45] <sumanah>	 ok
[13:32:06] <jdlrobson>	 are you able to give me permissions?
[13:32:20] <sumanah>	 jdlrobson: I just did. :-)
[13:32:30] <sumanah>	 jdlrobson: yes. Go ahead and mark it resolved-fixed
[13:33:00] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Search box highlight - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19935  (10Jon)
[13:33:06] <jdlrobson>	 perfect thanks :)
[13:33:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Update key mapping in Narayam Gujarati transliteration - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34056  +comment (10sonara.arnav)
[13:34:09] <sumanah>	 jdlrobson: Hmmm, I do not know where the CREDITS file is for MobileFrontend -- I just spot-checked a few other extensions and they don't seem to have credits files of their own
[13:34:30] <jdlrobson>	 I can create one
[13:34:40] <jdlrobson>	 just wanted to check that you didn't mean one elsewhere :)
[13:34:44] <sumanah>	 jdlrobson: let's check with preilly 
[13:34:55] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Mobile version of Wikipedia requires JavaScript to view sections - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34025  (10Jon)
[13:36:03] <sumanah>	 or with MaxSem.  MaxSem, when a contributor contributes code to an extension, does one just add their name to trunk/phase3/CREDITS , or are there often separate credits files for each extension?
[13:36:35] <Reedy>	 No
[13:36:51] <Reedy>	 phase3/CREDITS is for patch contributors/core developers
[13:36:54] <sumanah>	 I thought so
[13:37:38] <sumanah>	 so, how do extensions deal with it?
[13:37:40] <Reedy>	 in an extension, it's usually alright to add your name to the author list (wgExtensionCredits) if you make a reasonable contribution to the extnesion
[13:37:50] <sumanah>	 aha, so that's how they handle it
[13:37:59] <Reedy>	 If you change one line, it's not really fair
[13:38:10] <Reedy>	 Most people obviously do so when they overhaul the whole extension
[13:39:05] <sumanah>	 Sure, it's a matter of substantive contribution.
[13:39:54] <Reedy>	 Pretty much
[13:40:03] <sumanah>	 Of course.
[13:40:14] <sumanah>	 Much like the main CREDITS file or any reasonable credits file
[13:40:21] <Reedy>	 I've never really seen anyone question someone else adding themselves
[13:40:50] <Reedy>	 Pretty much just apply common sense
[13:41:27] <sumanah>	 I was looking for a separate credits *file* and hadn't thought to look for an array :-)
[13:41:51] <Reedy>	 heh
[13:42:04] <sumanah>	 so, jdlrobson, if someone makes a substantive improvement to an extension, look for wgExtensionCredits and add them
[13:42:06] <Reedy>	 I think some of the Semantic extensions might have seperate credits file
[13:46:46] <^demon>	 We introduced CREDITS awhile ago in core. We wanted a way to credit people who hadn't written enough to make it in the "Written by" descriptions.
[13:47:46] <^demon>	 sumanah: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/38020 - I added it in July '08
[13:48:03] <sumanah>	 Makes sense
[13:48:06] <sumanah>	 pretty standard practice
[13:57:06] <jdlrobson>	 i'm popping out for a while be back later!
[14:01:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Upload warning incorrect "File extension does not match MIME type." with URL encoded filenames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30043  +comment (10Bagariavivek)
[14:03:29] <potter>	 badon: hey.. regardging bug 30043 .I have found where the error is..could you please check my comment..thanks
[14:04:25] <sumanah>	 !b 30043
[14:04:26] <mw-bot>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30043
[14:15:57] <preilly>	 any reason we wouldn't want to just create a CREDITS file in the extension folder for smaller contributions?
[14:16:11] <preilly>	 sumanah ^demon Reedy ^^
[14:16:25] <sumanah>	 I find your proposal reasonable, preilly 
[14:16:28] <^demon>	 If you want to for your individual extensions that's fine :)
[14:16:39] <^demon>	 I don't see any harm in it
[14:16:54] <preilly>	 ^demon: yeah, yeah — just on an as-wanted/desired basis
[14:18:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Upload Wizard - The file you submitted was empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34387  +comment (10Saibo)
[14:20:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable Extension:FlaggedRevs for fiwiki (fi.wikipedia.org) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29742  (10kimmo.virtanen)
[14:25:51] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Upload warning incorrect "File extension does not match MIME type." with URL encoded filenames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30043  +comment (10vivekee047)
[14:26:55] <potter>	 sumanah: hey regarding bug 30043..I think the bug is wrongly filled
[14:28:04] <potter>	 sumanah: i have given the explanation why is it so..
[14:28:36] <sumanah>	 hi potter 
[14:28:49] <potter>	 sumanah: hey sumanah 
[14:29:20] <sumanah>	 potter: note that the original bug was filed a few months ago
[14:29:28] <sumanah>	  it could be that we have fixed the bug in the intervening time
[14:29:41] <potter>	 sumanah: actually it was not a bug
[14:29:52] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Enable Kannada Transliteration by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34591 normal; MediaWiki extensions: Narayam; (mgharish)
[14:30:23] <potter>	 !bug 30043
[14:30:23] <mw-bot>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30043
[14:30:27] <sumanah>	 potter: please be careful when saying that something is not a bug
[14:30:55] <sumanah>	 potter: you may accidentally be implying that someone didn't run into the problem that they reported
[14:31:16] <sumanah>	 which is likely to make them a bit irritated, since of course they ran into the problem that they reported
[14:31:25] <potter>	 sumanah: yeah you are right
[14:31:35] <sumanah>	 it's better, potter, to be more specific
[14:32:38] <wikibugs>	 03(ASSIGNED) Enable Kannada Transliteration by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34591   +i18n +shell (10Santhosh Thottingal)
[14:32:47] <sumanah>	 potter: narrow down the use case and try to replicate it, and then ask the original bug reporter whether they can still reproduce the problem
[14:33:34] <potter>	 sumanah:the person who posted the bug..was trying to upload a html page instead of a image link
[14:33:40] <sumanah>	 I understand, potter 
[14:33:43] <potter>	 sumanah: so he was getting error
[14:33:45] <sumanah>	 potter: right
[14:34:22] <Reedy>	 Yeah, that looks sane
[14:34:23] <sumanah>	 a good way to show respect for him/her would be to see whether the error still occurs if one tries to upload an image with an URL that has weird encoding
[14:34:25] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Option for hiding list of categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34592 enhancement; MediaWiki extensions: SemanticDrilldown; (kauftablass)
[14:34:44] <Reedy>	 Maybe you should point out to the user that they need to get the image url, which is obtained by clicking on the image on the image page
[14:35:04] <sumanah>	 potter: so you try to reproduce that problem just in case, it's probably fine, then you can mark as Resolved-Invalid
[14:35:14] <sumanah>	 Reedy: already pointed out
[14:35:38] <Reedy>	 He's pointed out what they were using, vs what they should've been using
[14:35:43] <Reedy>	 But hasn't told them how to get from A to B
[14:35:50] <sumanah>	 ah, fair
[14:35:54] <Reedy>	 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/33/Gyps_rueppellii_-Nairobi_National_Park%2C_Kenya-8-4c.jpg
[14:36:11] <Reedy>	 I doubt most people will want to sit down and work out MD5 sums for titles :p
[14:37:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Size thumbnails in galleries according to user preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1340  +comment (10Subfader)
[14:37:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Size thumbnails in galleries according to user preferences - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1340  15enhancement->minor (10Subfader)
[14:37:42] <Reedy>	 Bar that, I'd say the answer he's given is correct based on what the user was trying to do
[14:38:16] <sumanah>	 potter: yeah, I'm trying to show you how to be extra-helpful :-)
[14:38:33] <potter>	 sumanah: i understand it :)
[14:38:42] <sumanah>	 cool
[14:39:09] <potter>	 sumanah: i did not realize that i had to even specify the methid they go from the html to image
[14:39:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable Kannada Transliteration by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34591  normal->04CRIT (10Teju2friends)
[14:39:36] <sumanah>	 potter: being extra-clear and step-by-step is usually helpful
[14:39:37] <potter>	 sumanah: so final question :Shall i mark it as resolved-invalid?
[14:40:05] <sumanah>	 potter: I think it's ok to do so
[14:40:29] <potter>	 sumanah: then i'll do it
[14:40:52] <potter>	 sumanah: i have to go for dinner..Bye 
[14:40:59] <sumanah>	 bye
[14:42:10] <OrenOf>	 bye
[14:42:48] <wikibugs>	 14(WFM) On MediaWiki.org, ExtensionDistributor is down. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34583  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[14:43:12] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable Kannada Transliteration by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34591  04CRIT->15enhancement (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[14:44:14] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) German Wikiversity offline - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34585  +comment (10jan)
[14:45:06] <chughakshay16>	 sumanah : hi 
[14:45:12] <sumanah>	 hi chughakshay16 
[14:45:31] <chughakshay16>	 sumanah : do you happen to know anyone who has worked in developing wikimania wiki ?
[14:46:02] <sumanah>	 chughakshay16: ^demon I think. The #wikimania room knows more
[14:46:36] <chughakshay16>	 sumanah : thank you 
[14:46:40] <sumanah>	 welcome
[14:47:31] <chughakshay16>	 ^demon : Wikimania help !
[14:47:36] <^demon>	 #wikimania-2012
[14:49:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Can't authenticate using my mother language username (UNICODE) when I only have (a public) access to Wikipedia with an ASCII (english) keyboard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34590  +comment (10Nemo_bis)
[14:51:04] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable Kannada Transliteration by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34591  15enhancement->04CRIT; +comment (10Teju2friends)
[14:54:42] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable Kannada Transliteration by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34591  04CRIT->15enhancement; +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[14:55:44] <benjick>	 How can i make text not format using the wiki markup?
[14:55:55] <benjick>	 To show examples etc
[14:56:01] <sumanah>	 benjick: you mean, mark certain text as nonformatted?
[14:56:05] <benjick>	 Yes!
[14:56:05] <Reedy>	 <nowiki>[[Foo]]</nowiki>
[14:56:06] <sumanah>	 <pre> and <code> are what I use
[14:56:09] <benjick>	 Thank you!
[14:56:10] <sumanah>	 oh
[14:56:16] <sumanah>	 nowiki - I shall start using that
[14:56:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable Kannada Transliteration by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34591  15enhancement->04CRIT; +comment (10Teju2friends)
[14:57:15] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable Kannada Transliteration by default - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34591  +comment (10sam)
[14:58:42] <benjick>	 Can't <includeonly> be nested?
[14:59:31] <gwicke>	 benjick: afaik the first end tag is used, so no nesting
[14:59:56] <gwicke>	 similar to extension tag hooks tags
[15:02:50] <gwicke>	 codurr: wake up!
[15:02:57] <benjick>	 gwicke: oh, too bad, thanks!
[15:02:59] <Reedy>	 it's the post commit hook that's broken
[15:03:07] <gwicke>	 ah
[15:03:22] <gwicke>	 for a while already
[15:06:35] <sumanah>	 hi Krinkle! glad you're back
[15:06:39] <Krinkle>	 Hi
[15:08:46] <sumanah>	 Krinkle: what's on your tasklist this week?
[15:09:07] <Krinkle>	 Basically 2 things: catching up on a lot of stuff and 1.19/code review I guess.
[15:09:12] <sumanah>	 understood
[15:09:19] <Krinkle>	 Checking up on JS related issues, debugging, testing
[15:09:27] <sumanah>	 Krinkle: do you already know how to use git, gerrit, and git-review?
[15:10:02] <Krinkle>	 I know and love Git in general and use it a fair bit. I have not used gerrit (i've left a comment in wm-gerrit once and logged in a few times).
[15:10:38] <Krinkle>	 Although I haven't' tried, right now I have no clue how to do most of our daily work flow in gerrit
[15:12:20] <BarkingFish>	 Afternoon guys, can anyone tell me if the rollout of 1.19 has added anything to protect against phishing or to warn against javascript threats please?
[15:12:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) SF Override parameter. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/22993  +comment (10mitchell_neill)
[15:13:09] <BarkingFish>	 I passed a page from fr.wp through google translate and got warned in the area where central notices would normally appear, about a "malicious incident" and being redirected to an external site
[15:13:49] <Krinkle>	 BarkingFish: There have been no improvements for JS-security in 1.19, however there are no known problems either. 
[15:14:27] <BarkingFish>	 hm. Well I've never seen this message before when using Google Translate to convert a page.  This is what I got:
[15:14:43] <BarkingFish>	 "Suite � un incident malveillant, vous pouvez �tre redirig� vers un site externe. Ce probl�me est d�sormais r�solu. Si vous le rencontrez toujours, veuillez purger le cache de votre navigateur"
[15:14:52] <Krinkle>	 I think the google translate warning you describe is not a security issue, but an a protective precaution from google against malicious things. Google can't know what bits.wikimedia.org is owned and trusted by fr.wiktionary.org
[15:15:07] <sumanah>	 Krinkle: would you be interested in learning how to do gerrit stuff via a screensharing tutorial sometime today or Friday?  I need a test subject and I want to schedule some interactive training starting Monday
[15:15:11] <BarkingFish>	 It wasn't from google, it was on the wikipage in the central notice area
[15:15:20] <Krinkle>	 sumanah: please, yes :0
[15:15:22] <Krinkle>	 :)
[15:15:29] <Krinkle>	 BarkingFish: Need more info
[15:15:29] <BarkingFish>	 in the same text and color as Wikipedia use for notices
[15:15:37] <Krinkle>	 screenshot ? link?
[15:15:40] <BarkingFish>	 I'll do it again and screenshot it
[15:15:43] <BarkingFish>	 one moment
[15:17:07] <Krinkle>	 ok, cool
[15:17:15] <Krinkle>	 sumanah: this Friday?
[15:17:18] <BarkingFish>	 http://imgur.com/YtGmU
[15:17:34] <sumanah>	 Krinkle: yes, I think my test session with you would be this Friday
[15:17:36] <BarkingFish>	 You can see it right at the top of the page, in the Central Notice area, Krinkle 
[15:18:33] <Krinkle>	 BarkingFish: http://www.google.nl/search?ix=seb&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Suite+%C3%A0+un+incident+malveillant%2C+vous+pouvez+%C3%AAtre+redirig%C3%A9+vers+un+site+externe.+Ce+probl%C3%A8me+est+d%C3%A9sormais+r%C3%A9solu.+Si+vous+le+rencontrez+toujours%2C+veuillez+purger+le+cache+de+votre+navigateur
[15:18:34] <Krinkle>	 interesting
[15:18:52] <Krinkle>	 BarkingFish: I think they had a site notice that contained that text
[15:19:37] <BarkingFish>	 Well how the hell did they do that? :?
[15:19:38] <Krinkle>	 BarkingFish: perhaps fr.wikipedia accidentally had some user script that was malicious, they removed it and are explaining it to their community through the sitenotice
[15:19:49] <Krinkle>	 BarkingFish: You know how site notices work, rihgt?
[15:19:54] <BarkingFish>	 Not a clue
[15:20:04] <Krinkle>	 http://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki%3ASitenotice&action=historysubmit&diff=75903316&oldid=75837957
[15:20:23] <Krinkle>	 The local community admins can edit that page ([[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]]) and the text in there shows up on top of every page
[15:20:57] <Krinkle>	 usually meant for announcements (i.e. "cool event next month, be there" or "help do X and Y, sign up [[here]]"
[15:20:57] <BarkingFish>	 so why does it only show up when I translate, not when I'm logged in and viewing it in French?
[15:21:05] <Krinkle>	 BarkingFish: The notice is no longer active
[15:21:08] <Krinkle>	 Google has it in their cache
[15:21:14] <BarkingFish>	 aha
[15:21:24] <Krinkle>	 they don't download the page when you press "Translate" they already had it in their memory. 
[15:21:34] <Krinkle>	 It was removed a few hours ago, google hasn't updated it yet
[15:21:37] <BarkingFish>	 So the message is gone, but because google have it cached, it's showing it on the translated version as if it were still there
[15:21:43] <Krinkle>	 yep
[15:22:03] <Krinkle>	 Which is why you google that sentence: http://www.google.nl/search?ix=seb&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=Suite+%C3%A0+un+incident+malveillant%2C+vous+pouvez+%C3%AAtre+redirig%C3%A9+vers+un+site+externe.+Ce+probl%C3%A8me+est+d%C3%A9sormais+r%C3%A9solu.+Si+vous+le+rencontrez+toujours%2C+veuillez+purger+le+cache+de+votre+navigateur
[15:22:09] <Krinkle>	 it's showing a lot of results :P
[15:22:23] <BarkingFish>	 Ok then, I wasn't sure if something was busted or it was just a weird thing, but I'd certainly never seen that message before - i thought something had been upgraded
[15:22:24] <BarkingFish>	 :)
[15:24:05] <BarkingFish>	 Thanks Krinkle :D
[15:25:57] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Google searches for a wiki's sitenotice content should not match all pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34593 minor; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (krinklemail)
[15:26:08] <Krinkle>	 BarkingFish: You inspired a cool idea though ^
[15:26:31] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Google searches for a wiki's sitenotice content should not match all pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34593  (10Krinkle)
[15:26:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Google searches for a wiki's sitenotice content should not match all pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34593  (10Krinkle)
[15:27:52] <Krinkle>	 BarkingFish: btw, I love Google's preview function, look at it here: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/attachment.cgi?id=10068&action=edit
[15:28:02] <Krinkle>	 the screenshot inside the search page, even highlighting where the sample was taken from
[15:28:14] <Krinkle>	 (on the right)
[15:29:28] <BarkingFish>	 0.0
[15:36:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "Simple" skin not correct for multiple browsers - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34397  (10Krinkle)
[15:38:59] <OMGOMG>	 quick question about custom skins
[15:39:06] <OMGOMG>	 how do you get it to include MediaWiki:Foo.css
[15:39:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) enhanced editing toolbar needs normal edit toolbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19786  (10mybugs.mail)
[15:40:31] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Enhanced toolbar shouldn't be loaded by "mw.loader.using('ext.wikiEditor.toolbar', function(){})" if "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" is disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34594 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikiEditor; (mybugs.mail)
[15:41:05] <sumanah>	 hi OMGOMG 
[15:41:17] <sumanah>	 OMGOMG: have you already skimmed http://blog.redwerks.org/2012/02/08/mediawiki-skinning-tutorial/ ?
[15:42:01] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enhanced toolbar shouldn't be loaded by "mw.loader.using('ext.wikiEditor.toolbar', function(){})" if "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" is disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34594  +comment (10krinklemail)
[15:42:41] <sumanah>	 hi mindrones 
[15:43:09] <freakolowsky>	 :d
[15:47:13] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enhanced toolbar shouldn't be loaded by "mw.loader.using('ext.wikiEditor.toolbar', function(){})" if "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" is disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34594  (10mybugs.mail)
[15:50:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enhanced toolbar shouldn't be loaded by "mw.loader.using('ext.wikiEditor.toolbar', function(){})" if "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" is disabled - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34594  +comment (10krinklemail)
[15:53:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Loading ext.wikieditor.toolbar should not initialize it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34594  summary; +comment (10Krinkle)
[15:53:28] <mindrones>	 hey sumanah 
[15:53:33] <mindrones>	 how's going
[15:53:41] <mindrones>	 sumanah bbiam
[15:53:44] <sumanah>	 mindrones: I'm pretty good. I have a meeting in 7 min
[15:53:54] <mindrones>	 ack, then I'll fife my question
[15:54:02] <mindrones>	 how do you guys license skins?
[15:54:13] <mindrones>	 we had some requests about maiad
[15:54:15] <mindrones>	 naiad*
[15:54:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Loading ext.wikieditor.toolbar should not initialize it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34594  normal->15enhancement (10Krinkle)
[15:54:35] <mindrones>	 sumanah kindof 10 requests to use it already and at some point we have to decide
[15:54:52] <mindrones>	 sumanah is GPL appropriate for a skin, it being code essentially?
[15:54:57] <mindrones>	 or CC maybe?
[15:55:01] <sumanah>	 mindrones: GPL seems reasonable
[15:55:04] <mindrones>	 ok 
[15:55:20] <mindrones>	 only problem is if perople mockup also the color theme
[15:55:32] <sumanah>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Gallery_of_user_styles
[15:55:36] <mindrones>	 maybe we might ask not to replicate the skin exactly
[15:55:42] <mindrones>	 color-wise
[15:56:39] <sumanah>	 mindrones: check what others have done, there in the gallery, maybe that'll help you think about how to give everyone freedom while still asking for respect on whatever aspects you really want to keep unique
[15:56:59] <mindrones>	 sumanah ok very good, we'll put a license on it soon
[15:57:05] <sumanah>	 cool
[15:57:15] <sumanah>	 mindrones: did you already see http://blog.redwerks.org/2012/02/08/mediawiki-skinning-tutorial/ ?
[15:57:17] <mindrones>	 was wondering, because I see all skins in wikimedia svn have no license 
[15:57:39] <mindrones>	 no didnt' great thx
[15:58:08] <mindrones>	 after some tweak we are doing now, I'll uprade and we'll fix the skin too
[15:58:14] <mindrones>	 so that page is cool to have thc
[15:58:15] <mindrones>	 thx
[15:59:11] <sumanah>	 mindrones: might want to explore http://paulgu.com/wiki/Mediawiki_Skins to see how Gu licenses his skins
[15:59:16] <sumanah>	 for another example
[15:59:23] <sumanah>	 ok, meeting time!
[16:00:29] <sumanah>	 ^demon: hi! will you invite me, or should I invite you?
[16:01:08] <^demon>	 Invite me, I'm rather clueless with G+
[16:04:04] <mindrones>	 sumanah thx :)
[16:11:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Make Feedback text length configurable/increase it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34586  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:14:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Collapsible tabs start collapsing from the wrong side first in RTL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34587  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:15:54] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" remove both old and enhanced toolbars - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34595 normal; Wikimedia: Labs; (mybugs.mail)
[16:17:50] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Option for hiding list of categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34592  +comment (10yaron57)
[16:19:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Can't authenticate using my mother language username (UNICODE) when I only have (a public) access to Wikipedia with an ASCII (english) keyboard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34590  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:21:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Modify the URL to upload files in eswiki - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34566  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:21:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Can't authenticate using my mother language username (UNICODE) when I only have (a public) access to Wikipedia with an ASCII (english) keyboard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34590  (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:22:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" remove both old and enhanced toolbars - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34595  (10mybugs.mail)
[16:22:51] * hexmode  sees Helder.wiki poking at bugs

[16:26:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" remove both old and enhanced toolbars - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34595  +comment (10mah)
[16:28:31] <philippp>	 hi, how can i edit the style of a complete column in a table? is this possible? I mean that the text in the entire column is green...
[16:33:54] <Krenair>	 Is there a reason why mediawikiwiki's RC->IRC gateway channel is #mediawiki.wikipedia?
[16:38:04] <potter>	 Platonides: hey..regarding bug 33357 .. can you still reproduce it?
[16:38:10] <potter>	 !b 33357
[16:38:10] <mw-bot>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33357
[16:40:35] <philippp>	 hi, how can i edit the style of a complete column in a table? is this possible? I mean that the text in the entire column is green for example...
[16:43:05] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" remove both old and enhanced toolbars - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34595  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[16:43:14] <potter>	 Platonides: ping
[16:44:42] <shantanoo>	 Nikerabbit: ping
[16:45:00] <Nikerabbit>	 shantanoo: yes?
[16:45:02] <Nikerabbit>	 hi alolita
[16:45:15] <shantanoo>	 Nikerabbit: was looking at ext.narayam.rules.mr.js
[16:45:45] <Nikerabbit>	 yes
[16:45:50] <shantanoo>	 line 139. according to that if i type '\.' it will be replaced by danda. right?
[16:46:34] <shantanoo>	 ['\\.', '', '।'], // Danda
[16:46:36] <Nikerabbit>	 looks like so
[16:46:58] <shantanoo>	 but on mrwiki, . is replaced by danda...
[16:48:53] <Krinkle>	 Krenair: Hi
[16:48:59] <Krinkle>	 Still there?
[16:49:02] <Krenair>	 yep
[16:49:13] <Krinkle>	 You wanted to know why the rc-channel is under that weird name
[16:49:28] <shantanoo>	 also in the layout selection drop down, same word is spelled differently. https://skitch.com/shantanoo/8d5ff/
[16:49:33] <Krinkle>	 Krenair: It's because of legacy compatibility
[16:50:11] <Krinkle>	 Krenair: Once upon a time, wikipedia.org was the only domain name. and then mediawiki.org was registered. in the database mediawiki is "mediawikiwiki" (just like en.wikipedia.org is "enwiki"). So on IRC it maps to mediawiki.wikipedia
[16:50:25] <Krenair>	 Oh I see
[16:51:21] <Krinkle>	 There's a few others like that one. Later it was fixed, so meta and commons are in the "right" channels (in that they match the website address)
[16:51:28] <Krinkle>	 #meta.wikimedia, #commons.wikimedia
[16:52:04] <Krinkle>	 but it's best kept as it is to avoid breakage until we have a more modern realtime recent changes notification service (instead of IRC)
[16:52:43] <Krenair>	 yeah, the recent changes notifications service isn't particularly good via IRC
[16:52:44] <Krinkle>	 Krenair: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28276
[16:54:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) recent changes bot on #rurc.wikipedia IRC channel is dead - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/1291  (10Krinkle)
[16:54:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) RecentChanges IRC related issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16599  (10Krinkle)
[16:58:27] <gwicke>	 helderwiki: re posting the output- good idea!
[17:02:52] <gwicke>	 one of those applications where an unconditional <nowiki> tag that escapes everything to the end of the page would be handy
[17:02:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sometimes scripts imported by mw.loader.load on common.js are not executed - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34517  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[17:03:06] <gwicke>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/parserTests_16:43,_22_February_2012_%28UTC%29
[17:04:58] <gwicke>	 is there any extension installed on mw.org that can either show its input completely verbatim, or convert ascii color codes to html color?
[17:05:19] <codurr>	 New code comment: Preilly; You are missing a space around "))" after 'wfIsConfiguredProxy'.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112056#c31343>
[17:05:51] <Dantman>	 <source>?
[17:06:06] <Dantman>	 <pre>? Not quite sure what you're asking for
[17:06:53] <Dantman>	 Awww, no Roan
[17:06:59] <helderwiki>	 gwicke: =)
[17:07:56] <vvv>	 Reedy: I got poked by ukwiki folks who are upset that https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33273 is hanged for two months...
[17:09:13] <helderwiki>	 gwicke: I think [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/parserTests_16:43,_22_February_2012_(UTC)] could be moved to [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/parserTests]. Future results would go on the same page, so that we could use diffs
[17:09:14] <gwicke>	 Dantman: source looks promising, thanks!
[17:09:31] <Dantman>	 What do people think of replacing <meta name="ResourceLoaderDynamicStyles" content="" /> with <script id="ResourceLoaderDynamicStyles"></script>
[17:09:45] <gwicke>	 helderwiki: yes, will move it when I have figured out the highlighting
[17:10:01] <Krinkle>	 Dantman: Hm.. Not sure it matters, rationale?
[17:10:54] <shantanoo>	 Nikerabbit: should i create ticket on bugzilla?
[17:11:05] <Dantman>	 Krinkle: id="" is closer to placeholder than meta information with no content. And the <meta> tag makes our pages invalid because there is no such <meta> name, and our rationale for use of it is not good enough to have it properlly registered.
[17:11:31] <Krinkle>	 yeah
[17:11:44] <Krinkle>	 Any overhead of a src and content less <script> maybe?
[17:11:58] <Dantman>	 Krinkle: Also I went with <script> rather than <style> since it has relatively no weight, and avoids contributing to IE's max stylesheets limit (unless there's a condition that I don't know about)
[17:12:28] <Dantman>	 I think we already have some scripts in the head.
[17:13:04] <Krinkle>	 <script> does something weird in browsers though with parsing, blocking stuff perhaps or less gain of browser optimization for <script>less sections. but scrap that, we have <script> already 
[17:13:08] <Dantman>	 The browser might break from rendering for a moment to look at the script, but with nothing inside of it the browser shouldn't really slow down for any notable length.
[17:13:20] <Krinkle>	 yeah
[17:13:35] <Krinkle>	 Why do we need that section though?
[17:13:42] <Dantman>	 I made sure not to include src="" of course cause that would in fact cause problems by invoking a wasteful http request
[17:13:43] <Krinkle>	 I'm not sure we need it anymore
[17:13:52] <Dantman>	 Well, if we don't need it we can ditch it
[17:14:08] <Dantman>	 I think it was something about making sure dynamically loaded css has the right cascade
[17:14:11] <Krinkle>	 we could give the (first) <style> element an ID
[17:14:16] <Krinkle>	 yes
[17:14:28] <Dantman>	 Sure, ;) That's probably the proper thing to do
[17:14:47] <Krinkle>	 right now we insert <style> tags before this <meta>
[17:14:51] <Dantman>	 But I thought of this in case it's too hard to code that into RL
[17:14:52] <Krinkle>	 we'd instead append them to <head>
[17:15:03] <Krinkle>	 Dantman: Much of that has changed recently
[17:15:08] <Krinkle>	 we're now using only 1 <style> tag
[17:15:13] <Krinkle>	 (unless the browser doesn't support it)
[17:15:19] <Krinkle>	 appending css text
[17:15:25] <pubsez>	 I setup a squid server in front of mediawiki and it seems that mediawiki is sending a vary header which prevents squid from caching the same object for all
[17:15:25] <Krinkle>	 I only found out about that 2 hours ago
[17:15:30] <robla>	 Krinkle: how is the IRC bug fix holding up?
[17:15:35] <robla>	 !b 34508
[17:15:35] <mw-bot>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34508
[17:15:36] <pubsez>	 I setup mediawiki to use squid, but still
[17:15:59] <Krinkle>	 robla: I saw some commits and merges taking place but I've just done a full CVN swipe and still the same failures. no improvement that I can see
[17:16:08] <robla>	 really?
[17:16:27] <Krinkle>	 but I lost track really. reverts back and forth, not sure what the latest state is
[17:16:40] <Krinkle>	 i.e. what to test for, or whether everything should be fixed now.
[17:16:57] <robla>	 I saw page moves and other things making it over to #cvn-meta
[17:17:33] <Krinkle>	 I did a page protection test an hour ago, that didn't make it
[17:17:37] <Krinkle>	 into meta
[17:17:50] <gwicke>	 helderwiki: did not see any support for lang='ansi' unfortunately..
[17:17:58] <Krinkle>	 lets try againm
[17:17:58] <Krinkle>	 irc://irc.wikimedia.org/#meta.wikimedia
[17:18:20] <Dantman>	 lang="ansi"?
[17:18:44] <robla>	 it might be that there's a specific case or two that fails still, but that can be fixed pretty easily with a determined effort
[17:19:02] <Krinkle>	 robla: 
[17:19:02] <Krinkle>	 rc-pmtpa: [[User talk:Wnt]] http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?diff=3486465&oldid=3486384&rcid=3132585 * Wnt * (+1985) /* You think so? */
[17:19:03] <Krinkle>	 [5:18pm] rc-pmtpa: [[Special:Log/protect]] unprotect * Krinkle *  Krinkle removed protection from "[[Meta:Sandbox]]": test protection
[17:19:03] <Krinkle>	 [5:18pm] rc-pmtpa: [[Special:Log/protect]] protect * Krinkle *  Krinkle protected "[[Meta:Sandbox]]" ‎[move=sysop] (indefinite): undo test
[17:19:08] <Krinkle>	 User [[m:User:Wnt]] Possible gibberish? [[m:User talk:Wnt]] (+1985) Diff: http://meta.wikimedia.org/?diff=3486465&oldid=3486384&rcid=3132585 "/* You think so? */ "
[17:19:12] <Krinkle>	 didn't make it
[17:19:45] <Krinkle>	 robla: ok
[17:19:52] <robla>	 ok...so page protections don't work.  what about some of the other failure cases
[17:20:37] <Krinkle>	 move does work
[17:21:29] <gwicke>	 Dantman: lang='ansi' did not work, and is not listed on the geshi site either
[17:21:38] <Dantman>	 ohhhhhhh.... <source>
[17:21:53] <Dantman>	 ^_^ I thought you were talking about html lang=""
[17:22:07] <robla>	 alright....so, we're not blocking deployment for page protections.  Krinkle, could you figure out which cases are still broken, and either reopen 34508 or (preferable) file new bug(s)?
[17:22:41] <robla>	 even better, patches!  :)
[17:22:44] <Krinkle>	 uploads and blocks are most important
[17:22:50] <Dantman>	 gwicke: What are you trying to ouput, shell?
[17:23:04] <Krinkle>	 I can't tests blocks and deletes on a cvn-monitored 1.19 wiki as I don't have sysop on any of them.
[17:23:28] <gwicke>	 Dantman: I am trying to beautify http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Parsoid/parserTests_16:43,_22_February_2012_%28UTC%29
[17:23:39] <gwicke>	 that is the parserTests output from Parsoid
[17:23:59] <Dantman>	 Oh... yikes...
[17:24:04] <gwicke>	 I have run 'aha' on the ansi text locally, but the produced html is biggish
[17:24:21] <gwicke>	 maybe that is not such a good idea..
[17:24:34] <Dantman>	 I don't think we have anything that'll take shell output and convert the color codes to actual colours
[17:24:43] <Dantman>	 You'll probably have to write something for that
[17:24:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Oracle installer throw SET CONSTRAINTS ALL DEFERRED PL/SQL error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34280  +comment (10jfehrman)
[17:25:02] <Krinkle>	 !b 34508
[17:25:02] <mw-bot>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34508
[17:26:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Oracle installer throw SET CONSTRAINTS ALL DEFERRED PL/SQL error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34280  +comment (10jfehrman)
[17:28:37] <sumanah>	 I now know how to use gerrit!
[17:29:53] <sumanah>	 ^demon|away: I deleted myself from the MediaWiki project owners group in gerrit
[17:30:10] <sumanah>	 Nikerabbit: MaxSem: you're right, that's a very unintuitive UI
[17:30:55] <Reedy>	 vvv: as you know, there's no SLA
[17:31:04] <vvv>	 SLA?
[17:31:11] <^demon|away>	 sumanah: The puke greens and yellows will grow on you.
[17:31:16] <^demon|away>	 Like a deadly fungus.
[17:31:17] <pubsez>	 is it possible to disable sessions for mediawiki?
[17:31:23] <pubsez>	 my mediawiki setup is read only
[17:32:33] <vvv>	 Reedy: well, I know that, I'm just telling what they told me
[17:33:36] <Reedy>	 vvv: if you/they/someone wants to dig up the FR config, I'll apply it
[17:33:42] <Subfader>	 How can I pass parsed wiki text to a user JS page? 
[17:34:08] * vvv  used to know all FR config stuff

[17:34:33] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Instead '\.', '.' is replace by danda - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34596 blocker; MediaWiki extensions: Narayam; (shantanoo)
[17:36:08] <Krinkle>	 robla: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/IRCBot-Messages
[17:36:16] <Nikerabbit>	 sumanah: what is?
[17:36:25] <Nikerabbit>	 shantanoo: sorry I didn't follow up :(
[17:36:25] <sumanah>	 Nikerabbit: gerrit.
[17:37:31] <shantanoo>	 Nikerabbit: np. will be online for another hour. let me know if you want to verify the fix.
[17:37:34] <codurr>	 New code comment: Reedy; Rather, desc can be a bool or an array...; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112109#c31344>
[17:37:49] <sumanah>	 pubsez: Subfader: in case people here are busy, try mediawiki-l 
[17:37:50] <sumanah>	 !lists
[17:37:51] <mw-bot>	 mediawiki-l and wikitech-l are the primary mailing lists for MediaWiki-related issues. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists for details.
[17:37:55] <Nikerabbit>	 shantanoo: I'll have Santhosh or someone look at it, I'm not sure myself what is the correct behaviour, okay?
[17:38:01] <gwicke>	 helderwiki: removed the ansi color stuff, should be better for diffing anyway
[17:38:07] <pubsez>	 thanks sumanah 
[17:38:09] <robla>	 Krinkle: upload is broken?
[17:38:23] <Krinkle>	 robla: it doesn't say
[17:38:25] <shantanoo>	 Nikerabbit: ok. np.
[17:38:29] <Krinkle>	 haven't tried on a cvn-monitored 1.19 wiki
[17:38:32] <Krinkle>	 going to
[17:38:40] <robla>	 k.
[17:38:56] <Nikerabbit>	 but indeed the rule seems to be written as \. -> danda
[17:38:57] <robla>	 Reedy: if uploads aren't monitored, we'll have to hurry up and fix that
[17:39:08] <sumanah>	 kevin_brown: ping
[17:39:18] <robla>	 though is upload really used on commons?
[17:40:18] <sumanah>	 Krinkle: can I just schedule something for you to take my new Git, Gerrit, and You 1-hr class on Friday? I'll send you an invite
[17:40:27] <sumanah>	 hi nmudgal 
[17:40:36] <Krinkle>	 sumanah: yes
[17:41:24] <Reedy>	 robla: presumably it's just a message mismatch?
[17:41:48] <Nikerabbit>	 shantanoo: did you test on twn that the behavior is the same?
[17:42:06] <robla>	 Reedy: hopefully....I'd hope it'll be pretty easy working up a fix for that
[17:42:09] <shantanoo>	 Nikerabbit: let me check
[17:42:52] <shantanoo>	 Nikerabbit: yes. even on twn it is same
[17:43:16] <shantanoo>	 Nikerabbit: danda and . both are required.
[17:43:27] <Nikerabbit>	 shantanoo: okay, then it is not anything we haven't forgot to deploy
[17:43:29] <helderwiki>	 gwicke: seems good now =)
[17:44:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Remove deprecated $wgFilterCallback from core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30410  +comment (10krenair)
[17:44:47] <shantanoo>	 Nikerabbit: <code> ['\\.', '', '।'], // Danda </code> means, replace '\.' with danda. right?
[17:45:45] <Nikerabbit>	 yes
[17:45:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Remove deprecated $wgFilterCallback from core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30410   +need-review +patch (10Krenair)
[17:46:55] <shantanoo>	 Nikerabbit: is it possible to have a look at deployed ext.narayam.rules.mr.js
[17:47:27] <Nikerabbit>	 shantanoo: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/extensions/Narayam/resources/ext.narayam.rules.mr.js?revision=111945&view=co
[17:47:46] <robla>	 Krinkle: you're testing upload?
[17:47:52] <Krinkle>	 yu[
[17:47:54] <Krinkle>	 yup
[17:47:57] <Krinkle>	 just did, didn't work
[17:48:12] <robla>	 Reedy: ^
[17:48:17] <Krinkle>	 message also looks like the new system (prefixed  with "Krinkle")
[17:48:25] <robla>	 Reedy: could you work on a fix if you aren't already?
[17:48:25] <shantanoo>	 Nikerabbit: i suspect there is some bug...
[17:48:32] <Krinkle>	 using the old message _values_ wasn't required, but it does make it easier to detect which message is used 
[17:48:36] <shantanoo>	 the code seems to be correct
[17:48:53] <Nikerabbit>	 shantanoo: ah I think I might have misundersoot
[17:49:18] <Nikerabbit>	 '\\.' is first parsed to \.
[17:49:32] <Nikerabbit>	 then it is a regular expressions, which says that literal dot is converted to danda
[17:49:55] <Nikerabbit>	 shantanoo: does that make a sense?
[17:51:50] <shantanoo>	 oh. then its incorrect. in marathi, '.' is used, but we also use danda, especially when we write sholaks, poems,...
[17:52:18] <shantanoo>	 Nikerabbit: '\\\\.' will be parsed to \. and then it will be replace by danda?
[17:52:32] <Reedy>	 I'm AFK for dinner in a few minutes, so there's no point me starting
[17:52:42] <shantanoo>	 ['\\\\.', '', '।'], // Danda
[17:52:59] <Nikerabbit>	 shantanoo: yes, \\\\. to \\. which will mean \ followed by .
[17:53:22] <Dantman>	 ;) Shame you can't just use native regexps?
[17:54:13] <shantanoo>	 Dantman: :-?. almost everywhere \ needs to be escaped...
[17:54:16] <Dantman>	 ...it would actually almost be better to abuse regexp literals to extract the regexp and combine it with others
[17:55:01] <Dantman>	 shantanoo: /\\./
[17:56:00] <Nikerabbit>	 I never understood why JS have regexp literals
[17:56:16] <shantanoo>	 Dantman: :). well i suspect there is some reason behind not using the native regexs (generating the regex to be used from some other variable)
[17:56:21] <Dantman>	 The regexp is part of the language syntax itself, so there's no extra string format layer to escape
[17:57:28] <Dantman>	 In a literal the \ is always part of the regexp, escaping things in the regexp itself instead of escaping ' etc... the only exception being when you escape a /
[17:58:10] <Lcawte>	 Hmm, is this chown of a full 80GB hard drive (mounted at /mnt) working, just really slowly because its so big, or is it being idiotic trying to decide why its not?
[17:59:07] <shantanoo>	 Nikerabbit: is it possible to test the change on twn?
[17:59:54] <shantanoo>	 Dantman: you also need to escape [,],*,+,.
[17:59:56] <Nikerabbit>	 shantanoo: it should work
[18:00:33] <shantanoo>	 i can verify it and then update the ticket...
[18:03:04] <robla>	 AaronSchulz: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/IRCBot-Messages
[18:04:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Make Feedback text length configurable/increase it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34586  +comment (10sam)
[18:04:27] <sumanah>	 hi bsitu 
[18:04:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Increase allowable feedback text length - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34586  summary (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[18:05:05] <sumanah>	 ^demon|away: for testing purposes, can you give me project ownership of a pure playground repo?  
[18:05:24] <shantanoo>	 Nikerabbit: will update the ticket...
[18:06:01] <Nikerabbit>	 cool
[18:06:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Instead '\.', '.' is replace by danda - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34596  +comment (10shantanoo)
[18:06:11] <Nikerabbit>	 robla: still not working???
[18:06:19] <sumanah>	 hi Duesentrieb - I am editing https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow#How_to_comment_on.2C_review.2C_and_merge_code_in_Gerrit .  Do you have spare time today or Friday to be a test subject?
[18:06:26] <Dantman>	 shantanoo: But that's regexp escaping, not string escaping
[18:06:26] <robla>	 apparently not entirely
[18:06:33] <sumanah>	 Duesentrieb: (to learn how to use Gerrit)
[18:06:46] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" remove both old and enhanced toolbars - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34595  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[18:06:48] <Dantman>	 '\\[' == /\[/
[18:06:48] <robla>	 Aaron has some fixes that we didn't get deployed.  he's doing that now
[18:07:01] <bsitu>	 Hi sumanah, what's up
[18:07:25] <robla>	 Nikerabbit: do you have a little time to help out with a message or two?
[18:07:44] <domas>	 robla: percona is asking if any mediawiki people want to be at the 'dotorg' pavillion representing
[18:07:53] <domas>	 robla: at percona mysql conference
[18:07:53] <robla>	 Krinkle: same question for you
[18:08:02] <shantanoo>	 Dantman: was thinking of /[a-z]+/ 
[18:08:02] <domas>	 it is the successor of older mysql conferences
[18:08:11] <robla>	 domas: possibly.... sumanah ^
[18:08:19] <Krinkle>	 robla: Sure
[18:08:22] <Nikerabbit>	 robla: given that I meeting with you in 8 minutes, yes
[18:08:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Differentiate between manual and automatic account creations in #central IRC notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18214  +comment (10Krinkle)
[18:08:55] <sumanah>	 bsitu: would you be willing to be a test subject in the next 3 hours for my Git & Gerrit tutorial? It'll take about 30 minutes I hope
[18:09:07] <robla>	 let's coordinate in etherpad
[18:09:14] <sumanah>	 robla: domas: let me look up the Percona conference, just a moment
[18:09:51] <sumanah>	 domas: April in Santa Clara, right? http://www.percona.com/live/mysql-conference-2012/
[18:09:53] <robla>	 http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/IRCBot-Messages <-claim your message
[18:09:54] <domas>	 yeh
[18:09:58] <Nikerabbit>	 robla: btw when do we get fixed etherpad where I can scroll?
[18:10:22] * shantanoo  think that there should be some other sequence for such scenarios instead of using \

[18:10:30] <shantanoo>	 thinks*
[18:10:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Log filter hits and filter changes to Special:Log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18080  summary; +comment (10Krinkle)
[18:10:34] <codurr>	 New code comment: MarkAHershberger; I'm assuming r112034 is the fix for this. Change back to FIXME if I'm wrong.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/98045#c31345>
[18:10:47] <sumanah>	 domas: have you been to this conference before? do you expect that quality engineers will be attending?
[18:10:49] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Enable FlaggedRevs on Ukrainian Wikipedia - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33273  +comment (10Victor Vasiliev)
[18:11:07] <vvv>	 Reedy: I answered on that bug
[18:11:34] <wikibugs>	 14(DUP) Log filter hits and filter changes to Special:Log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18080  +comment (10Krinkle)
[18:11:34] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Abuse Filter log should appear in Special:Log and work like other logs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19494  +comment (10Krinkle)
[18:11:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) No RSS/Atom feed for Special:AbuseLog - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/24795  (10Krinkle)
[18:11:44] <Nikerabbit>	 robla: it's not clear wah I'm supposed to do
[18:11:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Log filter hits and filter changes to Special:Log - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18080  (10Krinkle)
[18:11:56] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) RecentChanges IRC related issues (tracking) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/16599  (10Krinkle)
[18:12:17] <Dantman>	 shantanoo: like [.]?
[18:12:34] <robla>	 Nikerabbit: pick a message in etherpad that isn't working, put your name beside it, and develop a fix for that against trunk
[18:12:56] <johnduhart>	 hexmode: You still haven't updated your email template :p
[18:12:56] <shantanoo>	 Dantman: yes. may work...
[18:12:58] <Dantman>	 Nowait, wrong escape
[18:13:03] <Nikerabbit>	 robla: hard to fix if I don't know what is broken
[18:13:31] <robla>	 Nikerabbit: I'll forward you instructions
[18:13:36] <Dantman>	 That's for '\\.' == /\./, it's possible to use /[.]/ instead since . loses it's special properties inside of []
[18:13:50] <Dantman>	 You were escaping \ itself
[18:14:17] <Dantman>	 Trying to get a literal \ in for '\\\\' == /\\/
[18:14:27] <domas>	 sumanah: I talk at that conference six times in a row
[18:14:35] <hexmode>	 johnduhart: Taking suggestions, but I'm updating right now
[18:14:48] <shantanoo>	 Dantman: oops. i responded to the different sequence for danda...:)
[18:14:50] <domas>	 sumanah: mysql conferences used to be #1 spot for web scaling crowd
[18:14:59] <domas>	 now there're few other events
[18:15:17] <Dantman>	 heh... ^_^ how beautifull is it that to express a single \ you need 4
[18:15:51] <Krenair>	 I was wondering how pages can be created if they already exist.
[18:16:17] <robla>	 Nikerabbit: Krinkle: sent to both of you
[18:16:25] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Instead '\.', '.' is replace by danda - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34596  +comment (10shantanoo)
[18:16:51] <sumanah>	 domas: so what would you suggest? do you think it's worthwhile to send someone to staff a booth, to recruit staffers and volunteers?  And when does Percona need an answer?
[18:17:20] <domas>	 *shrug*, mediawiki used to be there from time to time, brion was around there few times
[18:17:40] <domas>	 dunno when they need it, deadline is probably long ago, but deadlines don't apply to me, hehehe
[18:17:55] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Option for hiding list of categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34592  +comment (10kauftablass)
[18:18:57] <domas>	 I can forward an email to you
[18:19:05] <sumanah>	 domas: please do
[18:19:09] <hexmode>	 johnduhart: removed ref to 1.19
[18:19:32] <johnduhart>	 hexmode: And the Janurary 31st messgae as well?
[18:20:32] <hexmode>	 johnduhart: ah, that too
[18:25:03] <Krenair>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki_1.19/Deployment_announcement/ta&action=history How did that page get created like that? o.O
[18:26:03] <Nikerabbit>	 sigh, intalling 1.18 can't be this hard
[18:27:12] <Nightrose>	 sumanah: you asked if there are still wikidata positions to fill - just saw on twitter that apparently a project assistant is still being looked for
[18:27:22] <Nightrose>	 part-time
[18:27:30] <sumanah>	 Nightrose: oh! good to know! hmm, I may have a candidate
[18:27:43] <sumanah>	 Nightrose: to whom should I forward name/resume?
[18:27:44] <Nightrose>	 sumanah: ok sec - i'll get you a link
[18:28:23] <Nikerabbit>	 REL1.18 seems to broken, I have empty catlinks on every page?
[18:28:44] <Nikerabbit>	 http://translatewiki.net/jsgrammar/index.php?title=Main_Page
[18:29:13] <Nikerabbit>	 robla: you know anything about that?
[18:29:32] <Nightrose>	 sumanah: can you point him/her to http://wikimedia.de/wiki/Projektassistenz_Wikidata ?
[18:30:05] <sumanah>	 thanks, will do, Nightrose.
[18:30:07] <robla>	 Nikerabbit: nope....does it work well enough for fixing the logging stuff?
[18:30:09] <Nightrose>	 thx
[18:30:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Oracle installer throw SET CONSTRAINTS ALL DEFERRED PL/SQL error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34280  +comment (10jfehrman)
[18:30:44] <wikibugs>	 14(INVALID) Upload warning incorrect "File extension does not match MIME type." with URL encoded filenames - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30043  +comment (10badon)
[18:31:20] <badon>	 potter: Thanks for the check!
[18:32:28] <Nikerabbit>	 robla: sure
[18:32:56] <robla>	 let's figure out the 1.18 category problem later once we're in good shape on this issue
[18:32:59] <sumanah>	 Nightrose: am I right in presuming you require German language competence for this job?
[18:33:12] <robla>	 (and we get 1.19 deployed
[18:33:15] <Nikerabbit>	 usability of 1.18 is horrible though
[18:33:22] <Nightrose>	 sumanah: not 100% sure but i think so, yes
[18:33:30] <wikibugs>	 03(WONTFIX) Option for hiding list of categories - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34592  +comment (10Yaron Koren)
[18:33:36] <sumanah>	 ok, Nightrose - that makes sense since the job description is in German :-)
[18:33:41] <Nightrose>	 :)
[18:34:09] <robla>	 Nikerabbit: I didn't see anything obviously wrong in 1.18, but maybe I don't know what to look for.  anyway, we can revisit later
[18:34:10] <Dantman>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30043 <- This makes me want to implement some sort of "primary image" metadata and be evil and have the uploader parse out that information
[18:34:20] <Ashex>	 Ryan_Lane: can you tell me how you did this? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LDAP_Authentication/topnavigation
[18:34:35] <sumanah>	 Nightrose: I think that the people I am thinking of are either not able to relocate, or are interested in software development jobs and not administrative stuff.  But I'll keep my eye open for someone suitable for you
[18:34:46] <Ashex>	 Or anyone really, it's just how he laid out the extension page
[18:35:03] <Ryan_Lane>	 Ashex: it's just a few templates, included at the top of every page
[18:35:03] <Nightrose>	 sumanah: alright - thx - i'll let you know if i see anything else
[18:35:25] <Ashex>	 Ryan_Lane: I should read up on using templates then
[18:35:47] <Nikerabbit>	 Database returned error "8: attempt to write a readonly database"
[18:35:58] <Nikerabbit>	 sqlite broken
[18:36:12] <Ryan_Lane>	 Ashex: yep
[18:36:15] <Nikerabbit>	 why do I have all these bugs when trying to fix something else!
[18:36:22] <Ashex>	 Got it, thanks for the info :)
[18:36:40] <robla>	 Nikerabbit: what platform are you on?
[18:42:09] <Nikerabbit>	 robla: I just realised, every log type has now the username prefixed in the comment?
[18:42:24] <potter>	 badon: hey.. my net got disconnected..
[18:42:25] <Nikerabbit>	 robla: so we can fix those eaasily by not prepending the username
[18:42:30] <Krinkle>	 https://bit.ly/wikitechLatest
[18:42:40] <Krinkle>	 robla: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-February/058357.html
[18:42:51] <robla>	 Nikerabbit: that's the big one. there are other subtle differences too
[18:42:55] <Krinkle>	 https://bit.ly/wikitechMonth
[18:43:10] <robla>	 the problem is that there are cases where the username needs to be prepended
[18:43:58] <Nikerabbit>	 is there?
[18:44:19] <Nikerabbit>	 I don't think there is
[18:44:29] <Krinkle>	 Nikerabbit: As I said before, it's fine if the message is different (e.g. that irc also prepends the nickname), however the problem is in the parameter order. $1 and $2 would still have to be origin and target. username could be $3 or whatever.
[18:44:35] <potter>	 !bug 30043
[18:44:35] <mw-bot>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30043
[18:44:49] <Krinkle>	 (for irc)
[18:45:08] <robla>	 I can't remember the bug number, but I'm pretty sure they ended up getting prepended to fix some other bug
[18:45:11] <Nikerabbit>	 Krinkle: no
[18:45:23] <Nikerabbit>	 Krinkle: the new formatter automatically prepends username even for old logs
[18:45:34] <Nikerabbit>	 that is outside of the message
[18:45:49] <AaronSchulz>	 Undefined variable: wgExtensionAssetsPath in /home/wikipedia/common/php-1.19/extensions/WikimediaIncubator/WikimediaIncubator.php on line 27
[18:45:52] <Krinkle>	 Then  how come on live 1.19 wikis 'move' does not prepend the username ?
[18:46:16] <Krinkle>	 (in irc)
[18:46:17] <robla>	 I'd love to come up with a more optimal fix for this later.  right now, we've got our fix that we just need to finish off
[18:46:20] <Nikerabbit>	 it doesn't?
[18:46:26] <Nikerabbit>	 block log does
[18:46:44] <Krinkle>	 Nikerabbit: No it doesn't and afaik the reason is because it is now using a different message (the old one)
[18:46:49] <Krinkle>	 Nikerabbit: which is why block is still failing
[18:47:24] <Nikerabbit>	 Krinkle: right, move log was already fixed
[18:47:41] <Krinkle>	 delete is also fixed
[18:47:42] <Krinkle>	 "rc-pmtpa: [[Special:Log/delete]] delete * Tiptoety *  deleted "[[Uploadtest.png]]": Uploader request"
[18:47:44] <Nikerabbit>	 Krinkle: but the point is, it is not enough to only fix the logs I've converted, but all logs would fail because of the user name being prepended
[18:48:04] <Krinkle>	 Nikerabbit: Is it literally prepended ?
[18:48:13] <Krinkle>	 Or is there a message somewhere that is like "$1 does $2"
[18:48:22] <Krinkle>	 where $1 is username and $2 is the other message
[18:48:39] <Krinkle>	 anyway, it doesn't' matter
[18:48:46] <Nikerabbit>	 Krinkle: yes, see LegacyLogFormatter class
[18:48:51] <Nikerabbit>	 return $performer .  $this->msg( 'word-separator' )->text() . $action;
[18:48:57] <Nikerabbit>	 that would be easy to fix with some hack
[18:49:06] <Krinkle>	 the log summary reported in irc should match the i18n message named on etherpad
[18:49:20] <Krinkle>	 which is now good for move and delete
[18:49:23] <AaronSchulz>	 Nikerabbit: getActionMessage?
[18:49:28] <Nikerabbit>	 AryehGregor: yup
[18:49:35] <Nikerabbit>	 ups
[18:49:37] <Nikerabbit>	 AaronSchulz: *
[18:49:59] <Nikerabbit>	 AaronSchulz: can we add param to that method, or have other method that returns it without the prefixed name?
[18:50:19] <AaronSchulz>	 why not just hack getIRCActionText?
[18:50:22] <Krinkle>	 Nikerabbit: Do you know anything about "<!-- ERROR -->" ?
[18:50:26] <AaronSchulz>	 $text = $this->getPlainActionText();
[18:50:30] <Krinkle>	 I see that a few times in #meta.wikimedia  irc.wikimedia.org
[18:50:33] <AaronSchulz>	 that part
[18:50:35] <Nikerabbit>	 or could use this $this->ircext variable
[18:50:51] <Krinkle>	 Nikerabbit: : [[Special:Log/patrol]] patrol * Tiptoety *  marked <!-- ERROR -->revision 3486813 of <a href="/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_adminship/mmovchin_(temp)" title="Meta:Requests for adminship/mmovchin (temp)">Meta:Requests for adminship/mmovchin (temp)</a> patrolled $3
[18:50:52] <Nikerabbit>	 Krinkle: feels a bit familiar
[18:50:54] <Krinkle>	 looks broken
[18:51:08] <yuvipanda>	 Nikerabbit: headsup, mobile team releasing another beta on thursday evening PST, so a messages push tonight would be great
[18:51:18] <Nikerabbit>	 includes/Linker.php
[18:51:18] <Nikerabbit>	 178:                    return "<!-- ERROR -->$html";
[18:51:18] <Nikerabbit>	 789:                    return "<!-- ERROR -->{$prefix}{$html}{$trail}";
[18:51:32] <Krinkle>	 Nikerabbit: It's inserting html where it shouldn't, ERROR is prepended and $3 is undegined
[18:51:48] * Krinkle  files a bug

[18:52:04] <Nikerabbit>	 AaronSchulz: what you think?
[18:53:02] <Nikerabbit>	 yuvipanda: that's not any earlier than last time :(
[18:53:10] <yuvipanda>	 wait
[18:53:13] <yuvipanda>	 i'm just confused about my timezone
[18:53:14] <yuvipanda>	 s
[18:53:17] <AaronSchulz>	 I guess irctext works, to hande the getActionMessage in the legacy class
[18:53:28] * AaronSchulz  wants this to just be over

[18:53:43] <Nikerabbit>	 I'm not following you
[18:53:57] <yuvipanda>	 Nikerabbit: technically there's about 36 hours before the beta is out
[18:54:13] <wikibugs>	 04(REOPENED) [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  +comment (10Krinkle)
[18:54:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  +comment (10krinklemail)
[18:54:31] <robla>	 yuvipanda: I think we have overlapping deploys.
[18:54:41] <Lcawte>	 Hmm, is the WMDE Berlin Hackathon on lanyrd.com yet?
[18:54:43] <robla>	 I'll need to coordinate with Tomasz
[18:54:52] <yuvipanda>	 robla: uh, okay. 
[18:55:04] <codurr>	 New code comment: Brion VIBBER; Yep it's resolved. :); <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/98045#c31346>
[18:55:32] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [Regression] IRC string output for log messages no longer compatible - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34508  +comment (10krinklemail)
[18:55:46] <sumanah>	 Lcawte: not that I know of. go ahead and add it
[18:56:35] <Nikerabbit>	 robla, AaronSchulz, Krinkle: r112132
[18:56:41] <Krinkle>	 !r r112132
[18:56:41] <mw-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/r112132
[18:57:16] <AaronSchulz>	 Nikerabbit: when you set irctext to false?
[18:57:23] <Reedy>	 nevar!
[18:57:26] <Krinkle>	 enotice ?
[18:57:54] <Nikerabbit>	 AaronSchulz: it's false by default
[18:58:08] <Lcawte>	 Reedy: http://lanyrd.com/2012/wmde-berlin-hackathon/
[18:58:11] <AaronSchulz>	 it should be reset after use
[18:58:15] <Nikerabbit>	 I think Reedy left it there
[18:58:16] <AaronSchulz>	 like plaintext is
[18:58:24] <Reedy>	 I thought I stripped it out?
[18:58:35] <Nikerabbit>	 Reedy: not all
[18:58:48] <Reedy>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112049
[18:58:51] <Nikerabbit>	 AaronSchulz: yeah sure, not that it should cause any problems this way
[18:58:59] <Reedy>	 hmm
[18:59:03] <MaxSem>	 sumanah, do  you know a good Cyrillic reference for tfinc?
[18:59:04] <Reedy>	 member variable is still there
[18:59:07] <Nikerabbit>	 yup
[18:59:19] <Nikerabbit>	 anyway, that should fix bulk of the logs
[18:59:32] <Lcawte>	 Ewww, I've just noticed, that Lanyrd widget is aweful... /me scowls at bad wordpress plugins
[18:59:33] <Reedy>	 Ugly code is ugly
[18:59:35] * Reedy  barfs

[18:59:45] <sumanah>	 MaxSem: Huh.  No, I just learned Cyrillic at Berkeley.  He also went to Berkeley so there is no excuse. :-)
[18:59:54] <sumanah>	 MaxSem: sorry, nope
[19:00:27] <Reedy>	 MaxSem: is Soviet Russia, Russian learns YOU
[19:03:14] <Joe____>	 There is this function in OracleInstaller.php that is called setupSchemaVars() but it is never defined.  Is this function defined in another file or am I missing something?
[19:03:46] <Joe____>	 Using MW 1.18.1
[19:03:58] <MaxSem>	 it's inherited from base class
[19:04:09] <MaxSem>	 i.e. DatabseInstaller
[19:04:12] <Joe____>	 Ah makes sense now.
[19:04:19] <Joe____>	 Forgot it was extended
[19:04:20] <Joe____>	 thanks
[19:05:45] <Nikerabbit>	 Reedy: is that good enough though?
[19:06:09] <sumanah>	 MaxSem: Joe____ is interested in testing and improving Oracle support in general for MediaWiki
[19:06:13] <Reedy>	 Nikerabbit: is what?
[19:06:21] <Reedy>	 oh
[19:06:40] <MaxSem>	 great
[19:07:56] <Krinkle>	 RoanKattouw_away: Any submission from you or Trevor at Wikimania? (are either/both of you going?)
[19:08:04] <codurr>	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Don't forget messages.inc!; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112128#c31347>
[19:08:17] <Krinkle>	 RoanKattouw_away: ping me when you're back, there's a problem with the <style> appending code
[19:09:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) wikimedia.com should redirect to wikimedia.org rather than showing 'Wiki does not exist' - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34563  +comment (10mah)
[19:09:24] <RoanKattouw>	 Krinkle: I'm going, yeah, we're gonna prep a submission
[19:09:34] <RoanKattouw>	 What's the <style> problem?
[19:09:51] <Krinkle>	 RoanKattouw: Several problems actually
[19:09:56] <pubsez>	 is there a way to prevent mediawiki from sending vary header, for caching purposes it causes problems
[19:10:13] <Reedy>	 Nikerabbit: we haven't put any of the messages back into messages.inc yet
[19:10:18] <sumanah>	 hi DanielRenfro 
[19:10:29] <Krinkle>	 RoanKattouw: Firstly, @import doesn't work and some other codes. Has to do with the way it's added, I don't think appending to innerText/innerHTML that way is a documented feature.
[19:10:29] <Nikerabbit>	 Reedy: yes you have, raymond did
[19:10:34] <Reedy>	 orly?
[19:10:42] <DanielRenfro>	 Hi sumanah, how are things?
[19:10:44] * Reedy  kicks codurr

[19:10:45] <codurr>	 Puck you.
[19:10:52] <Nikerabbit>	 anyway, I'm done
[19:11:02] <Nikerabbit>	 third 12h day in a row
[19:11:04] <RoanKattouw>	 Krinkle: @import needs to be on top of the <style> tag is my understanding. Yeah that's a problem
[19:11:19] <sumanah>	 DanielRenfro: good but hectic. I'm updating https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git/Workflow to reflect how things are going to work starting in early March
[19:11:37] <Krinkle>	 (I have a total of 3 bugs, and 2 of them with local patches)
[19:11:40] <RoanKattouw>	 That sounds like a good reason for a revert on its own. @import needs to work, even if IE breaks because of the >31 styles thing
[19:11:43] <RoanKattouw>	 OK
[19:11:44] <RoanKattouw>	 Hit me
[19:11:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Differentiate between manual and automatic account creations in #central IRC notifications - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/18214  +comment (10Krenair)
[19:12:00] <sumanah>	 DanielRenfro: I'm starting the Git/Gerrit trainings on Monday -- would you like to attend one? it'd be about a half hour, over video/screensharing. Are you on Google Plus?
[19:12:20] <sumanah>	 Nikerabbit: I hear you!
[19:12:27] <sumanah>	 DanielRenfro: and in general, how are you?
[19:12:28] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Remove deprecated $wgFilterCallback from core - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30410  +comment (10Mark A. Hershberger)
[19:12:29] <Krinkle>	 RoanKattouw: Secondly, although untested, @font-face is likely failing in some IE versions due to bug 33305
[19:12:37] <Krinkle>	 RoanKattouw: That was fixed in mw.util.addCSS
[19:12:50] <DanielRenfro>	 I've got meetings most of the day Monday; will they be online afterwards? (not gotten into Google+, only Facebook for now)
[19:13:00] <RoanKattouw>	 Aha
[19:13:04] <RoanKattouw>	 .cssText
[19:13:06] <Krinkle>	 RoanKattouw: Third and last a small one, media-attribute is only half-used. Should also be checked for in the .is() check
[19:13:06] <DanielRenfro>	 sumanah: I've got meetings most of the day Monday; will they be online afterwards? (not gotten into Google+, only Facebook for now)
[19:13:07] <Nikerabbit>	 sumanah: I hope it's worth it and we will get 1.19 out of the door
[19:13:24] <RoanKattouw>	 Yeah you could just rewrite the mw.loader code to be closer to addCSS
[19:13:33] <sumanah>	 DanielRenfro: Monday is *just the beginning*
[19:13:47] <Krinkle>	 RoanKattouw: Locally I've exposesd a createStyle method in mw.loader and using it in mw.util.addCSS
[19:13:50] <RoanKattouw>	 Krinkle: *facepalm* Oh of course it should maintain separate style tags per media type
[19:14:03] <Krinkle>	 where createStyle is basically mw.util.addCSS
[19:14:06] <sumanah>	 DanielRenfro: so, worry not, full documentation will also be online afterwards, and Monday's not going to be the only training
[19:14:58] <DanielRenfro>	 sumanah: awesome. I'm definitely interested -- but busy :/
[19:15:03] <Krinkle>	 RoanKattouw: Dantman came on earlier about <meta name=".."> being semantically wrong as it's not unique, suggesting to use a <script id=""> instead. I suggested to drop it entirely and instead append to <head>, and give the first (sometimes only 1) <style> and id-attribute. 
[19:15:03] <sumanah>	 DanielRenfro: got it
[19:15:30] <RoanKattouw>	 Krinkle: Can't do that, it has to be in a specific spot, before the <link> tag with user styles
[19:15:39] <Krinkle>	 RoanKattouw: Ah, I knew I missed something
[19:16:03] <Dantman>	 give the user styles link an id?
[19:16:41] <Krinkle>	 site styles also
[19:16:51] <Krinkle>	 user after site, core/extensions before site
[19:17:15] <Krinkle>	 but site/user link only exists if they exist on-wiki
[19:17:17] <Krinkle>	 Dantman: 
[19:17:24] <Krinkle>	 so fallback to appending to <head>?
[19:17:35] <Dantman>	 Sure, something like that
[19:17:45] <sumanah>	 biab
[19:17:50] <Krinkle>	 and otherwise inserting before site or user
[19:17:53] <DanielRenfro>	 I'm having trouble debugging JavaScript via the ResourceLoader..."debug=true" is great, but I can't get to scripts loaded via load.php 
[19:18:11] <DanielRenfro>	 can I bypass load.php or force all JS to have their own request/reponse
[19:18:14] <Dantman>	 WordPress adds an implicit id="" to every style you use the enqueue methods to add.
[19:18:19] <Krinkle>	 DanielRenfro: Define "get to", what browser are you using, which debug tool. what are you debugging?
[19:18:45] <RoanKattouw>	 Krinkle: What's wrong with a <script id=""> ?
[19:18:51] <Dantman>	 Perhaps we should try making sure we have a proper intuitive id="" for these things. Then we'll have consistnent reference points to base deprecation, etc... off
[19:18:53] <DanielRenfro>	 I'd like to debug in IE (alas, I know), using the Developer Tools
[19:18:55] <Krinkle>	 DanielRenfro: debug=true forces each module to have it's own request/reponse. Some modules don't have a physical file, those load via individual load.php?modules=name requestss
[19:19:09] <Krinkle>	 RoanKattouw: Dunno, but if we don't need it.. 
[19:19:25] <Dantman>	 ^_^ It's still markup abuse
[19:19:29] <Krinkle>	 RoanKattouw: It just feels wrong to have a <script> with no src and no content. Might freak out or pause browsers for a bit
[19:19:35] <DanielRenfro>	 Krinkle: does mw.implement() always load things via load.php? 
[19:19:45] <Krinkle>	 DanielRenfro: implement() doesn't load anything
[19:19:54] <Dantman>	 Krinkle: ;) not to mention we're using a <script> to indicate <style> locations
[19:20:28] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Category history - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34597 enhancement; MediaWiki: Categories; (infovarius)
[19:20:34] <DanielRenfro>	 Krinkle: I need to go do some more reading... Thanks so far.
[19:20:45] <Krinkle>	 DanielRenfro: mw.loader.load() always makes a request to load.php, it then either returns the module directly or a request to it's file (the latter is true in debug mode)
[19:20:59] <Krinkle>	 it = load.php response
[19:21:12] <Krinkle>	 via mw.loader.implement (which is what load.php returns)
[19:21:35] <Krinkle>	 DanielRenfro: btw, are you new around here? What're you working on :)
[19:21:40] <DanielRenfro>	 Krinkle: ...making more sense now. 
[19:21:52] <robla>	 Krinkle: Nikerabbit: another test pass on irc messages?
[19:22:00] <DanielRenfro>	 Krinkle: new to IRC, been working with MW about 5 years now :)
[19:22:03] <Dantman>	 Speaking of load.php
[19:22:23] <Dantman>	 I want an api to reference semi-arbatrary resources
[19:22:38] <DanielRenfro>	 Krinkle: worked on http://ecoliwiki.net at my last job; now working on an internal-documentation wiki for a large printing corporation (Vistaprint.)
[19:22:54] <Dantman>	 Hmmm, maybe wrong phrasing/idea
[19:23:07] <Dantman>	 I mean, right now we can define the scripts for a module.
[19:23:41] <Dantman>	 I want an api that given a module will return a load.php based script url that can be used standalone isolated from the rest of loading.
[19:23:49] <Dantman>	 Primary use case, WebWorkers
[19:24:10] <varnent>	 DanielRenfro: welcome to IRC - glad to see you around  :)
[19:24:13] <Dantman>	 You need a url for those. And RL started to abstract the whole resource thing.
[19:24:37] <DanielRenfro>	 varnent: thanks! I'm trying to get more involved and give back to the community (i.e. answer the questions I know)
[19:25:00] <varnent>	 DanielRenfro: fantastic - ty - all we can ask for really  :)
[19:25:09] <Dantman>	 Something like `new WebWorker( mw.loader.standalone( 'somemodule.worker' ) );
[19:27:03] <ashish_d>	 gwicke: ping
[19:27:10] <gwicke>	 ashish_d: pong!
[19:27:48] <ashish_d>	 gwicke: Figured out an OT plan last night, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Dash1291/Thoughts , please check out when you have time
[19:27:57] <Krinkle>	 Dantman: hm.. what kind of code would be inside somemodule.worker ?
[19:28:16] <gwicke>	 ashish_d: will look at it in a few minutes, let me finish something else first
[19:28:20] <Krinkle>	 it would be loaded asynchronous, so what would it return to the webworker?
[19:28:29] <ashish_d>	 gwicke: Cool!
[19:28:52] <Dantman>	 Krinkle: mw.loader.standalone would return a url rather than actually do loading
[19:29:12] <Krinkle>	 Dantman: what about load.php?modules=..&debug=false&only=scripts ?
[19:29:26] <Dantman>	 Might work
[19:29:27] <Krinkle>	 all that leaves though is mw.loader.setState(…); at the end
[19:29:31] <Krinkle>	 which may not be a problem
[19:29:37] <Dantman>	 May, may not
[19:29:54] <Dantman>	 Though I have been debating if we want some implicit extras.
[19:29:55] <Krinkle>	 it skips mw.loader.implement(), and executes right away
[19:30:33] <Dantman>	 eg: I wonder if we should include some of the loader code itself, maybe some of the stuff that adds config
[19:30:51] <Dantman>	 Since a worker is almost completely isolated.
[19:32:05] <Dantman>	 Though I do admit one thing. I've been making considerations for WebWorkers, but the only place I've actually had a web worker used, couldn't even use this api anyways
[19:32:36] <Dantman>	 ((I was trying to implement Ace support, but it doesn't use a callback so we couldn't hook into this anyways))
[19:37:18] <gwicke>	 ashish_d: my understanding of the Wave optimization is that the clients are actually only allowed to diverge from the server state by one transaction
[19:37:49] <Krinkle>	 Dantman: also thinking about dependencies. Right now those are resolved client side, so getting the code directly from one module may not always work.
[19:37:52] <gwicke>	 the idea is that the server only needs to keep the latest revision around
[19:38:11] <Dantman>	 Krinkle: Sure...
[19:38:44] <Dantman>	 Krinkle: We 'could' write this evilly in a way dedicated only to WebWorkers precluding any other standalone usage (they'd need custom code of their own)
[19:38:44] <gwicke>	 ashish_d: afaik there is also more transformation done on the client in the wave model
[19:38:57] <Krinkle>	 Dantman: Perhaps start the web worker from inside the module rather than outside (e.g. load it normally and in side the module, already having the methods available you need, do the expensive operation in the WebWorker.
[19:39:00] <gwicke>	 so the server can be quite simple
[19:39:30] <gwicke>	 (which is good for performance of course)
[19:39:32] <Dantman>	 Krinkle: what do you mean?
[19:40:27] <gwicke>	 ashish_d: I read the wave code a few months ago, so I don't recall all the details anymore- but that is the gist of my expedition into the wave space
[19:41:14] <Krinkle>	 Dantman: I think I have to read up on WebWorkers
[19:41:21] <Krinkle>	 but before I realized that, I typed this:
[19:41:29] <Krinkle>	 Dantman: So instead of loading foo.core and then loading foo.init in a WebWorker, you'd load foo.init normally, which will load foo.core (by loaders dependency resolution) and inside foo.init.js it starts a WebWorker passing the expensive function to it.
[19:42:05] <Dantman>	 Krinkle: Yeah, that sounds off... a WebWorker is completely separate from it's parent.
[19:42:19] <Krinkle>	 Dantman: it always and only takes a url ? 
[19:42:20] <Dantman>	 You don't pass it a function. You pass it the url for a worker script to run.
[19:42:24] <Krinkle>	 right
[19:42:32] <Krinkle>	 and communication is only upstream ?
[19:42:45] <Krinkle>	 or via some tight line
[19:43:02] <Dantman>	 That worker script executes in it's own isolated thread, in it's own isolated scope, and the ONLY connection it has with it's parent is the ability to post async messages usign the postMessage api
[19:43:15] <Krinkle>	 ok
[19:43:25] <Krinkle>	 so no access to something like this.parentWindow or something like that
[19:43:38] <Dantman>	 Krinkle: By 'WorkerSpecific' I was referring to importScripts
[19:43:47] <Krinkle>	 to access window.mw, window.jQuery or window.document
[19:44:16] <Dantman>	 Aye, hence if we want some minimal loader code or whatnot we'd have to consider including it with the worker
[19:44:28] <Dantman>	 Though WebWorkers have an importScripts method that will load a script.
[19:44:32] <Dantman>	 ;) And it's syncronus
[19:44:49] <codurr>	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; All have been fixed in follow ups.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111556#c31348>
[19:45:18] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Google searches for a wiki's sitenotice content should not match all pages - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34593  +comment (10brion)
[19:45:19] <codurr>	 New code comment: Nikerabbit; Fixed in followups.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111997#c31349>
[19:45:44] <Dantman>	 So technically if we write this as a WebWorker api portion of ResourceLoader rather than a generic standalone api, then when we fallback to loading scripts directly we could use the WebWorker's importScripts method to syncronously load the scripts
[19:45:45] <Joe___>	 Does anyone know the URL for Media Wiki summer of code?
[19:46:20] <Krinkle>	 Dantman: sounds interesting
[19:46:23] <Krinkle>	 gotta get dinner now
[19:47:26] <Krinkle>	 Dantman: btw, I've also been thinking about caching modules in localStorage or "Local Database" (instead of browser cache). So that mw.loader would check the local database, check the timestamp column, and execute the script. much like how offline HTML5 apps store JS.
[19:47:32] <Krinkle>	 rrrright, brb after dinner
[19:48:09] <Dantman>	 Krinkle-away: Careful with that a little. localStorage has a typical max limit of 5MB and we might want to use it for other things.
[19:48:57] <Dantman>	 Offline HTML5 apps actually have a separate interface they can use to have js offline. An offline application manifest.
[19:50:44] <gwicke>	 ashish_d: ping
[19:50:54] <Dantman>	 ApplicationCache*
[19:51:08] <brion>	 app manifest stuff is kinda scary, it sorta works like another layer of http cache in your browser that's usually even harder to inspect
[19:51:13] <brion>	 i've only fiddled a little with that
[19:51:25] <brion>	 still waiting on a bugzilla api upgrade before i get back to my html5 bugzilla app :)
[19:51:52] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Sometimes two search fields are rendered instead of one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34598 normal; MediaWiki: User interface; (erik)
[19:52:13] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sometimes two search fields are rendered instead of one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34598  +comment (10erik)
[19:52:20] <Krinkle-away>	 Dantman: It was just a very small experiment, but I was basically looking at the water flow chart on how it does make a http request but returns instantly after it sees it's not modified and executes cached script. by not making those http requests, things might speed up.  So basically speed testing between a cache-hit and the time to do a JavaScript in a local database, compare timestamps and execute cached script or http request (the startup m
[19:52:20] <Krinkle-away>	 would still be the way it is ofcourse)
[19:52:20] <Krinkle-away>	 )
[19:52:37] <Krinkle-away>	 k, will be back later now
[19:52:37] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sometimes two search fields are rendered instead of one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34598  +comment (10erik)
[19:53:00] <codurr>	 03yaron * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112139> 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_AutocompleteAPI.php: Removed comment - 'substr' parameter is no longer mandatory in all cases
[19:53:06] <Dantman>	 Krinkle-away: Btw, technically workers do have a SharedWorker type as well.
[19:53:11] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sometimes two search fields are rendered instead of one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34598  +comment (10erik)
[19:53:39] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sometimes two search fields are rendered instead of one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34598  +comment (10brion)
[19:53:55] <Dantman>	 Oooohhh... lol
[19:54:06] <Dantman>	 ^_^ This is an interesting idea.
[19:54:17] <Dantman>	 A shared notification worker
[19:54:30] <brion>	 do any browsers support shared workers actually?
[19:54:36] <Dantman>	 Hmmm
[19:55:16] <Dantman>	 http://caniuse.com/#feat=sharedworkers
[19:55:21] <Dantman>	 Tch, chrome does, but FF doesn't
[19:55:44] <Dantman>	 And Safari is one version off
[19:55:52] <brion>	 mysteeeeerious
[19:57:17] <codurr>	 03yaron * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112140> 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormEditTab.php: Updated comment
[19:57:19] <codurr>	 03nikerabbit * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112133> 10/trunk/phase3/includes/logging/LogFormatter.php: Followup, restore the irctext variable just in vase, ping r112132
[19:57:25] <Reedy>	 Yay
[19:57:42] <codurr>	 03maxsem * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111634> 10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/MobileFormatter.php: Function docs
[19:57:44] <codurr>	 03maxsem * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111635> 10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/MobileFrontend.body.php: rm @todo, checked it with Patrick
[19:57:44] <codurr>	 03ialex * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111636> 10/trunk/extensions/ (6 files in 5 dirs): svn:eol-style native
[19:57:44] <codurr>	 03ialex * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111637> 10/trunk/phase3/includes/GlobalFunctions.php: Added wfDeprecated() call to wfSpecialList() now there no more calls to that function in core or extensions
[19:57:46] <codurr>	 03jdlrobson * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111638> 10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/ (javascripts/application.js stylesheets/iphone.css):
[19:57:46] <codurr>	 swap out javascript orientation styling for media query
[19:57:46] <codurr>	 note: this only effects iphones where javascript has
[19:57:47] <freakolowsky>	 yes i know you're glad to see me 
[19:57:47] <codurr>	 been disabled in safari
[19:57:48] <codurr>	 03gwicke * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111639> 10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/parser/ (ext.core.ParserFunctions.js pegTokenizer.pegjs.txt): Reject match for invalid urlencoded code points.
[19:57:52] <codurr>	 03qchris * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111640> 10/trunk/extensions/ActiveAbstract/ (AbstractFilter.php GoogleCoopFilter.php): Made 'register' functions static (required by BackupDumper)
[19:58:30] <codurr>	 03qchris * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111641> 10/trunk/extensions/ActiveAbstract/AbstractFilter.php: Updated 'pass' to currently required signature
[19:58:30] <codurr>	 03yonishostak * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111642> 10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ (2 files in 2 dirs): AFTv5: another intermittent commit, fix some i18n messages and minor js issues, before pushing to prototype
[19:58:34] * Krenair  hugs codurr 

[19:58:35] * codurr  hugs Krenair.

[19:58:35] * Reedy  covers his ears

[19:58:38] <codurr>	 03hashar * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111643> 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES-1.19 includes/specials/SpecialVersion.php):
[19:58:38] <codurr>	 (bug 34420) - Special:Version should use git
[19:58:38] <codurr>	 You can test it using git init in our $IP and do a dummy commit with:
[19:58:39] <codurr>	 git commit -a RELEASE-NOTES-1.19
[19:58:41] <Dantman>	 brion: I guess my idea can be done in a fallback way
[19:58:49] <codurr>	 Then head to Special:Version and look at the magic version number.
[19:58:49] <codurr>	 This need a backport in REL1_19 / 1.19wmf1 since WMF is going to use
[19:58:49] <codurr>	 git "soon" (tm).
[19:58:49] <codurr>	 03hashar * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111644> 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialVersion.php:
[19:58:50] <codurr>	 remove debug statement from r111643
[19:58:51] <codurr>	 need REL1_19, 1.19wmf1 backports
[19:58:52] <codurr>	 03emsmith * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111645> 10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/sql/filter_count.sql: bug 34090 - updated the filter count update script to get requested oversight counts correctly
[19:58:53] <codurr>	 03santhosh * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111646> 10/branches/jsgrammar/resources/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
[19:58:54] <codurr>	 Add grammar parsing support for mw.jqueryMsg
[19:58:55] <codurr>	 Define the magic SITENAME in mw.jqueryMsg itself
[19:58:56] <codurr>	 Add convertGrammar to mediawiki.language.js
[19:58:57] <codurr>	 The grammar data need to be pushed by a resource loader module. That and tests coming.
[19:58:58] <codurr>	 03robin * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111647> 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES-1.20 includes/SkinTemplate.php):
[19:58:59] <codurr>	 (Bug 31417) Content-holding div needs an ID.
[19:59:00] <codurr>	 Since the introduction of the class mw-content-ltr/rtl, it has been used to get
[19:59:01] <codurr>	 the page text which is very bad because there are two class names and it is not
[19:59:02] <codurr>	 always on the same place (if at all). This ID will always hold the bodytext
[19:59:04] <Krenair>	 So, codurr is back?
[19:59:08] <codurr>	 (excluding categories, ArticleFeedback, ...).
[19:59:08] <codurr>	 03ialex * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111648> 10/trunk/phase3/includes/EditPage.php: Whitespaces fixes
[19:59:08] <codurr>	 03jdlrobson * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111649> 10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/javascripts/beta_application.js: mimic behaviour in beta_ introduced in r111638
[19:59:09] <Dantman>	 Then again... is there really a use for separate isolated workers?
[19:59:14] <codurr>	 03reedy * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111650> 10/branches/wmf/1.18wmf1/extensions/FeaturedFeeds/ (. .): svn copy in trunk version of FeaturedFeeds
[19:59:14] <codurr>	 03jdlrobson * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111651> 10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
[19:59:14] <codurr>	 display sections for people without javascript (addresses #34025)
[19:59:14] <codurr>	 this sets the class of the body tag to jsEnabled for browsers
[19:59:15] <codurr>	 with javascript. Css takes care of the rest by showing the sections
[19:59:16] <Reedy>	 Krenair: yup, wrong mail settings
[19:59:16] <codurr>	 and hiding the buttons for those without.
[19:59:17] <codurr>	 03ialex * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111652> 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialUnusedimages.php: Use local context to get message
[19:59:18] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111653> 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/ (6 files in 4 dirs): revert r111514 - this breaks compat with 1.16
[19:59:19] <codurr>	 (74 lines omitted)
[19:59:23] <codurr>	 03catrope * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111695> 10/trunk/phase3/ (4 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[19:59:23] <codurr>	 Since I'm sick of all the mw.user-induced problems, break the dependency between
[19:59:23] <codurr>	 mw.user.{options,tokens} and mw.user . With this change, mediawiki.js defines a
[19:59:23] <codurr>	 skeleton object for mw.user containing just the options and tokens maps, and
[19:59:24] <codurr>	 mediawiki.user.js copies those when it sets up the full mw.user object. This way
[19:59:25] <codurr>	 of doing extending is kind of ugly but I don't have time to work on something
[19:59:28] <codurr>	 nicer without breaking backwards compatibility. Because mw.user.{options,tokens}
[19:59:28] <codurr>	 03asher * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111694> 10/trunk/udpprofile/ (debian/changelog profiler-to-carbon): fix profiler-to-carbon - 1.19 is sending profile events with article title names
[19:59:28] <codurr>	 03reedy * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111699> 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/ (6 files in 4 dirs): MFT r111695, r111697
[19:59:32] <codurr>	 03catrope * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111700> 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/resources/mediawiki/mediawiki.js: Fix merge artefact in r111699
[19:59:32] <codurr>	 03wikinaut * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111702> 10/trunk/extensions/Suhosin/ (. Suhosin.i18n.php Suhosin.php): initial import of small Suhosin extension which checks and adapts MediaWiki to an running Suhosin extension (Hardened-PHP Project)
[19:59:32] <codurr>	 03tstarling * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111701> 10/trunk/phase3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (bug 34428) Fixed hash mismatch errors in DiffHistoryBlob::patch() by simulating LibXDiff's broken Adler-32 implementation.
[19:59:32] <codurr>	 03aude * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111703> 10/trunk/tools/planet/en/config.ini: add QRpedia blog
[19:59:33] <codurr>	 03wikinaut * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111704> 10/trunk/extensions/Suhosin/Suhosin.php: added paranoid () in the if(); corrected version number
[19:59:34] <codurr>	 03tstarling * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111706> 10/trunk/phase3/includes/HistoryBlob.php: Clarified comment per CR r111701
[19:59:49] <codurr>	 03ben * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111708> 10/trunk/extensions/SwiftMedia/wmf/ (client.py rewrite.py): switching from chunked to unchunked transfer encoding for swift writes
[19:59:49] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111707> 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (3 files in 2 dirs): work on student article table
[19:59:49] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111709> 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/includes/ (EPArticle.php EPArticleTable.php): work on student article table
[19:59:49] <codurr>	 03kaldari * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111710> 10/trunk/phase3/resources/jquery.ui/themes/vector/ (19 files in 2 dirs): changing jquery.ui buttons to match assets from brandon, also adding separate graphics for large buttons
[19:59:50] <codurr>	 03reedy * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111711> 10/trunk/extensions/AbuseFilter/abusefilter.tables.sql: Contents of patch-afl_action_id.sql isn't actually int he default sql file...
[20:00:02] <codurr>	 03wikinaut * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111712> 10/trunk/extensions/WikiArticleFeeds/WikiArticleFeeds.php: added ob_start() to prevent headers-already sent problem; add check for undefined variable; removed host wiki from the RSS feed title. feed title has now the programmatic form 'Pagename - Feed' which looks nice.
[20:00:03] <codurr>	 03siebrand * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111713> 10/trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
[20:00:03] <codurr>	 Split up the 4.7MB WikimediaLicenseTexts.i18n.php into two files to address Out of Memory issues that were quick fixed in r111606. Files still need to be rebuilt. Will be done in a subsequent commit.
[20:00:03] <codurr>	 Still not a long term solution. There probably other i18n files for extensions knocking on the OoM door:
[20:00:03] <codurr>	 * AbuseFilter.i18n.php (2.77MB)
[20:00:04] <codurr>	 * WikiEditor.i18n.php (2.02MB)
[20:00:05] <codurr>	 03kaldari * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111714> 10/trunk/extensions/ArticleCreationWorkflow/modules/ext.articleCreation.user/ext.articleCreation.user.js: switching to large button graphics for the large buttons, depends on core change r111710
[20:00:07] <codurr>	 03siebrand * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111715> 10/trunk/extensions/WikimediaMessages/ (2 files): Follow-up r111713: Rebuild WikimediaCCLicenseTexts.i18n.php and WikimediaLicenseTexts.i18n.php.
[20:00:08] <codurr>	 03aaron * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111716> 10/trunk/tools/mwmultiversion/multiversion/ (MWVersion.php defines.php): Moved more constants do defines.php
[20:00:09] <codurr>	 03aaron * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111717> 10/trunk/tools/upload-scripts/thumb-handler.php: Added Content-Length header to output
[20:00:10] <codurr>	 03ben * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111718> 10/trunk/extensions/SwiftMedia/wmf/rewrite.py: correcting add header syntax, using a default user-agent if needed.
[20:00:11] <codurr>	 03siebrand * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111719> 10/trunk/translatewiki/MediaWiki/mediawiki-defines.txt: Add a prefix for a duplicate key.
[20:00:12] <codurr>	 03yaron * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111720> 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormUtils.php: Follow-up to r111633 - replaced smwfGetLinker() with equivalent code, to avoid a potentially inconvenient dependency
[20:00:13] <codurr>	 03yaron * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111721> 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticForms/includes/SF_FormUtils.php: More improvements
[20:00:19] <codurr>	 03yaron * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111722> 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticDrilldown/specials/SD_BrowseData.php: Changed getFullURL() to getLocalURL() in categories list
[20:00:19] <codurr>	 03santhosh * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111723> 10/branches/jsgrammar/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
[20:00:19] <codurr>	 (79 lines omitted)
[20:00:19] <Yaron>	 What the....
[20:00:27] <Krenair>	 Yaron, codurr is back, apparently.
[20:00:29] <codurr>	 03siebrand * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111758> 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesCps.php: Cleanup of MessagesCps.php. Contained a bunch of empty strings.
[20:00:30] <Dantman>	 The idea was the SharedWorker would poll for notification updates (ie: LQT, and other parts of our new theoretical notification system), every page you are visiting would use the same shared worker. And hence you would only ask once for a notification update, and every page you're on would get the updated indicator.
[20:00:41] <codurr>	 03jdlrobson * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111757> 10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/javascripts/ (beta_opensearch.js opensearch.js):
[20:00:41] <codurr>	 rewrite writeResults to not use innerHTML
[20:00:41] <codurr>	 this is a first step towards encapsulating the
[20:00:41] <codurr>	 opensearch.js code. We cannot rely on href
[20:00:42] <codurr>	 attributes with javascript:
[20:00:42] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) cia.vc post commit hook seems broken - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34530  +comment (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[20:00:52] <codurr>	 03amire80 * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111760> 10/trunk/extensions/timeline/Timeline.php:
[20:00:52] <codurr>	 Added the svgOnly setting. If it's enabled, the PNG will be created by
[20:00:52] <codurr>	 MediaWiki's rasterize function, rather than by ploticus, thus allowing Unicode
[20:00:52] <codurr>	 text. It will actually work only after I commit the corresponding changes in
[20:00:53] <codurr>	 EasyTimeline.pl; until then, not using svgOnly shouldn't change any behavior.
[20:01:00] <codurr>	 03jdlrobson * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111761> 10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/javascripts/ (beta_opensearch.js opensearch.js): (log message trimmed)
[20:01:00] <codurr>	 encapsulate opensearch.js
[20:01:00] <codurr>	 this encapsulates the opensearch javascript code
[20:01:00] <codurr>	 a few tweaks are necessary -
[20:01:01] <codurr>	 less reliance on caching so writing tests is possible
[20:01:02] <codurr>	 attaching click event to #remove-results element via
[20:01:06] <codurr>	 addEventListener and the renaming of the removeResults
[20:01:06] <codurr>	 03siebrand * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111759> 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/ (157 files): Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net.
[20:01:06] <codurr>	 03jdlrobson * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111762> 10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/ (MobileFrontend.body.php tests/js/test_opensearch.js): add qunit tests for opensearch.js
[20:01:17] <codurr>	 03jdlrobson * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111763> 10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/javascripts/ (beta_opensearch.js opensearch.js): indent opensearch.js and beta counterpart
[20:01:17] <codurr>	 03amire80 * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111764> 10/trunk/extensions/WebFonts/resources/ext.webfonts.fontlist.js: Added Jomolhari for Tibetan (bo), too.
[20:01:17] <codurr>	 03hashar * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111765> 10/trunk/phase3/includes/UserMailer.php:
[20:01:18] <codurr>	 (bug 34421) avoid duplicate Subject headers
[20:01:24] <Yaron>	 Krenair - yeah, wow.
[20:01:29] <codurr>	 r93397 duplicated the Subject header which was passed to the mail() function
[20:01:29] <codurr>	 as well as to the $headers array.
[20:01:29] <codurr>	 03jdlrobson * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111766> 10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/javascripts/ (beta_opensearch.js opensearch.js): jslinted opensearch code
[20:01:29] <codurr>	 03amire80 * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111767> 10/trunk/phase3/languages/messages/MessagesPnb.php: Replaced wrong order of digits and dollars in params - s/(\d)\$/$\1/g.
[20:01:41] <codurr>	 03maxsem * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111768> 10/branches/ParserFunctions-MaxSem/: rm old branch
[20:01:41] <codurr>	 03jdlrobson * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111769> 10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
[20:01:41] <codurr>	 add tests for beta_opensearch.js
[20:01:42] <codurr>	 these tests mostly cover highlighting of keywords in
[20:01:42] <codurr>	 search results
[20:01:53] <codurr>	 one of the tests exposes a problem where the character ?
[20:01:53] <codurr>	 appears in the title. Fixed with adjustment to escapeJsString
[20:01:53] <codurr>	 using more complete code snippet from http://simonwillison.net/2010/Jul/4/escaping/
[20:01:53] <codurr>	 03reedy * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111770> 10/branches/REL1_19/phase3/ (7 files in 5 dirs): MFT r111478, r111571, r111574, r111597, r111658
[20:01:54] <codurr>	 03reedy * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111771> 10/branches/REL1_19/extensions/ (5 files in 4 dirs): MFT r111484, r111575, r111685
[20:01:59] <codurr>	 (88 lines omitted)
[20:01:59] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111833> 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (5 files in 3 dirs): work on article table
[20:01:59] <codurr>	 03nikerabbit * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111834> 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/resources/ (ext.translate.messagetable.css ext.translate.quickedit.css): Some style changes based on feedback of various people
[20:02:00] <codurr>	 03dale * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111835> 10/trunk/extensions/TimedMediaHandler/MwEmbedModules/EmbedPlayer/resources/skins/mw.PlayerControlBuilder.js: fixed updated menu interface on source switch
[20:02:01] <codurr>	 03au * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111836> 10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/tests/parser/ (__patched-html5-parser.js parserTests.js):
[20:02:02] <codurr>	 * Locally apply the HTML5.Marker.type patch.
[20:02:03] <codurr>	 This is needed until https://github.com/aredridel/html5/issues/44
[20:02:04] <codurr>	 is merged into the upstream "html5" module.
[20:02:23] <codurr>	 03au * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111837> 10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/tests/parser/Makefile: * Add a "make test" target that auto-fetches parserTests.txt.
[20:02:23] <codurr>	 03au * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111838> 10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/tests/parser/ (4 files):
[20:02:23] <codurr>	 * Convert __patched-html-parser to .coffee.
[20:02:24] <codurr>	 Note that the compiled .js file (generated by "make"/"make test")
[20:02:25] <codurr>	 is still under version control so folks can work on the project
[20:02:26] <codurr>	 even without a running "coffee" command in PATH.
[20:02:27] <codurr>	 Also updated README to mention coffee-script and "make test".
[20:02:28] <codurr>	 03wikinaut * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111839> 10/trunk/extensions/EtherpadLite/ (EtherpadLite.i18n.php EtherpadLite.php):
[20:02:29] <codurr>	 prevent to render multiple same pads on a page for several reasons (performance
[20:02:34] <codurr>	 New code comment: Werdna; See the conversation on the bug.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111800#c31350>
[20:02:40] <gwicke>	 hey, codurr woke up ;)
[20:02:41] <codurr>	 degradation; Etherpad Lite bug of non-unique ids in DOM elements). Store per
[20:02:41] <codurr>	 current page the used pad urls = server/padid and show an error message and the
[20:02:41] <codurr>	 pad url if a pad url is used another time on the current page.
[20:02:42] <codurr>	 03robin * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111840> 10/trunk/extensions/WikimediaIncubator/ (IncubatorTest.php InfoPage.php WikimediaIncubator.php):
[20:02:42] <codurr>	 (126 lines omitted)
[20:02:49] <ashish_d>	 gwicke: pong
[20:02:53] <codurr>	 03santhosh * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111910> 10/branches/jsgrammar/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
[20:02:53] <codurr>	 Port grammar rules of dsb, hu, ga to javascript with qunit tests
[20:02:53] <codurr>	 Minor whitespace fixes in mediawiki.language.test.js
[20:02:53] <codurr>	 Small variable fix fi , follow up r111744
[20:02:54] <codurr>	 03santhosh * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111911> 10/branches/jsgrammar/tests/qunit/suites/resources/mediawiki/mediawiki.language.test.js: Fix a missing a comma in r111895
[20:03:03] <codurr>	 03santhosh * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111912> 10/branches/jsgrammar/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
[20:03:04] <codurr>	 Ukrainian grammar rules ported to js with qunit testcases
[20:03:04] <codurr>	 Removed some trailing commas from mediawiki.language.test.js
[20:03:04] <codurr>	 03siebrand * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111913> 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ffs/Gettext.php: Fix Undefined variable: potmode in Gettext.php on line 224
[20:03:05] <codurr>	 03nikerabbit * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111914> 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/ffs/Gettext.php: $headers not used in this method, ping r111867
[20:03:06] <codurr>	 03siebrand * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111915> 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/ (generateCollationData.php transstat.php): Remove trailing newlines.
[20:03:07] <codurr>	 03siebrand * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111916> 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/checkLanguage.inc: Fixes for highlighter.
[20:03:09] <codurr>	 03siebrand * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111917> 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/ (generateNormalizerData.php validate.php): Remove trailing newlines.
[20:03:10] <codurr>	 03siebrand * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111918> 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/language/lang2po.php: Remove obsolete and broken lang2po.php.
[20:03:11] <Reedy>	 http://cia.vc/
[20:03:11] <codurr>	 03santhosh * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111919> 10/branches/jsgrammar/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
[20:03:12] <codurr>	 Port grammar rules to js for os, sl with qunit tests
[20:03:13] <codurr>	 Fix an encoding issue in for uk reported in r111912
[20:03:14] <codurr>	 03aaron * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111920> 10/trunk/phase3/maintenance/populateRevisionSha1.php: r111795: Split out upgradeLegacyArchiveRow() function and added NS/title to condition. The $idCol var was misleading as obviously ar_timestamp is not unique.
[20:03:15] <codurr>	 03gwicke * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111921> 10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/parser/mediawiki.parser.js:
[20:03:16] <codurr>	 Set up token stream transformers from a map of phases per input content type.
[20:03:16] <Reedy>	 We're the most active project today! :D
[20:03:17] <codurr>	 Not yet applied to attribute pipeline creation. 249 tests passing.
[20:03:19] <gwicke>	 ashish_d: sorry, am on the phone
[20:03:33] <codurr>	 03gwicke * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111922> 10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/parser/ext.core.Sanitizer.js: Add some comments to the Sanitizer
[20:03:33] <codurr>	 03santhosh * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111923> 10/branches/jsgrammar/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Port convertGrammar method of Lating to js with qunit tests.
[20:03:33] <codurr>	 03gwicke * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111924> 10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/parser/ (3 files): Push transformer setup a bit further into the attribute pipeline.
[20:03:33] <codurr>	 03hashar * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111925> 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/includes/UserMailer.php:
[20:03:34] <codurr>	 MFT to 1.19wmf1 r111832
[20:03:35] <codurr>	 (79 lines omitted)
[20:03:36] <codurr>	 03tstarling * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111985> 10/trunk/extensions/Vector/modules/ext.vector.sectionEditLinks.js:
[20:03:37] <codurr>	 * Fixed load order like bug 34538
[20:03:38] <codurr>	 * Fixed accidental global variable reference in the case where the configuration variable is false. Returned early instead of adding another indent level, so that the diff is easier to interpret.
[20:03:40] <codurr>	 * Untested.
[20:03:40] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111987> 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (5 files in 4 dirs): added help messages to form
[20:03:41] <codurr>	 03tstarling * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111983> 10/trunk/phase3/resources/mediawiki.action/mediawiki.action.edit.js:
[20:03:42] <ashish_d>	 gwicke: No problem, I just got back
[20:03:42] <codurr>	 * Fixed failure of the edit toolbar to load when $wgResourceLoaderExperimentalAsyncLoading is enabled and module execution occurs before the edit box appears in the DOM. Similar to bug 34538.
[20:03:43] <codurr>	 * Also fixed breakage of byteLimit on edit in the same scenario.
[20:03:44] <codurr>	 * For 1.19 backport so no release notes.
[20:03:44] <Krinkle-away>	 !r r111847
[20:03:45] <mw-bot>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/r111847
[20:03:45] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111986> 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (EducationProgram.i18n.php includes/EPPager.php): added missing message and fixed sort direction
[20:03:46] <codurr>	 03jeroendedauw * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111988> 10/trunk/extensions/EducationProgram/ (5 files in 3 dirs): added help message to ambassador profile forms
[20:03:50] <Krenair>	 Yaron, looks like 508 commits going back to r111633 (12:04, 16 February 2012)
[20:04:04] <codurr>	 03tstarling * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111989> 10/trunk/extensions/ (15 files in 12 dirs):
[20:04:04] <codurr>	 * (bug 34538) Fixed compatibility with $wgResourceLoaderExperimentalAsyncLoading in some extensions.
[20:04:04] <codurr>	 * Tested AbuseFilter.
[20:04:04] <codurr>	 * Did not test ArticleCreationWorkflow, Configure, ContributionTracking, FlaggedRevs, FundraiserPortal, InlineCategorizer, MarkAsHelpful, Math/Mathjax.
[20:04:05] <codurr>	 * Fixed a typo in a comment in LiveTranslate.
[20:04:06] <codurr>	 * Did not review extensions alphabetically after MoodBar.
[20:04:08] <codurr>	 03amire80 * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111990> 10/trunk/extensions/Narayam/tests/qunit/ext.narayam.tests.js: Adding more tests for initialization, transliteration and cookies.
[20:04:09] <codurr>	 03pgehres * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111993> 10/trunk/extensions/DonationInterface/globalcollect_gateway/forms/html/_personal-information/ (9 files): Updating existing personal information templates to make use of getCountryDropdown()
[20:04:09] <Yaron>	 Well, I guess it'll be over soon-ish.
[20:04:10] <Krinkle-away>	 What's going on svn ?
[20:04:15] <codurr>	 03siebrand * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111994> 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/utils/TranslationHelpers.php: Partial revert of r111866: utils\TranslationHelpers.php change was based on an incorrect comment.
[20:04:15] <codurr>	 03jdlrobson * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111996> 10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/stylesheets/ (16 files):
[20:04:15] <codurr>	 move common table and .mwm-notice definitions into common stylesheets
[20:04:15] <codurr>	 there are many definitions across all the stylesheets - these should
[20:04:16] <codurr>	 just be in the common files beta_common and common
[20:04:17] <codurr>	 (116 lines omitted)
[20:04:21] <Krenair>	 Krinkle-away, nothing.
[20:04:26] <codurr>	 03nikerabbit * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111999> 10/trunk/extensions/Translate/resources/ext.translate.quickedit.js: Close button did not work for the embedded editor for the last item in the table. Bind the close callback to the close input unconditionally.
[20:04:26] <codurr>	 03reedy * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112045> 10/trunk/phase3/includes/logging/ (LogEntry.php LogFormatter.php): First merge of the rest of the code from bug 34508 patch 1 and patch 3
[20:04:26] <codurr>	 03raymond * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112044> 10/trunk/ (57 files in 42 dirs): Localisation updates for core and extension messages from translatewiki.net
[20:04:26] <codurr>	 03reedy * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112046> 10/trunk/phase3/includes/logging/LogFormatter.php: consistently use $entry
[20:04:27] <codurr>	 03foxtrott * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112047> 10/trunk/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/ (README RELEASE-NOTES): add result printers 'tree', 'ultree', 'oltree' to rel notes and readme
[20:04:31] <Reedy>	 Krinkle-away: I got the post commit hook to cia.vc (which codurr uses to notify in here) fixed
[20:04:37] <codurr>	 03raymond * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112048> 10/trunk/translatewiki/MediaWiki/mediawiki-defines.txt: r111997: Register new module for translatewiki.net.
[20:04:37] <codurr>	 03reedy * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112049> 10/trunk/phase3/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
[20:04:37] <codurr>	 Effectively revert r112042
[20:04:38] <codurr>	 Followup r112045, remove the irc key name changes
[20:04:39] <codurr>	 03awjrichards * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112050> 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ProxyTools.php: Refactors the check if a particular IP is in the list of configured squid servers into its own function.
[20:04:40] <codurr>	 03ialex * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112051> 10/trunk/phase3/includes/Title.php: Per Aaron, follow-up r112036: add __METHOD__ to DatabaseBase::rollback() too
[20:04:44] <codurr>	 03tparscal * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112052> 10/trunk/phase3/includes/resourceloader/ (2 files):
[20:04:47] <codurr>	 Adds a supportsURLLoading method which returns false to user tokens and user
[20:04:47] <codurr>	 options modules. This prevents them from being linked to direction which fixes
[20:04:47] <codurr>	 an issue where in debug mode logged in users were being served anon tokens and
[20:04:47] <codurr>	 options. This should resolve bug #34469.
[20:04:47] <codurr>	 03raymond * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112053> 10/trunk/translatewiki/MediaWiki/mediawiki-defines.txt: r112048: Waiting for a bette prefix...
[20:04:47] <codurr>	 03ialex * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112054> 10/trunk/phase3/includes/ (RecentChange.php WikiPage.php logging/PatrolLog.php): Added $performer parameter to PatrolLog::record() and pass it from WikiPage::doEdit() and RecentChange::doMarkPatrolled() since the performer is not necessarily $wgUser
[20:04:51] <Reedy>	 it's been broken about a week
[20:04:58] <Krinkle-away>	 so this is catch up ?
[20:05:07] <codurr>	 03catrope * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112055> 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/includes/resourceloader/ (4 files): 1.19wmf1: MFT r112052
[20:05:07] <codurr>	 03awjrichards * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112056> 10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/MobileFrontend.body.php:
[20:05:07] <codurr>	 Added forward-compatibility with potential new wfIsConfiguredProxy function
[20:05:08] <codurr>	 (introduced r111788) - this checks an IP against the list of configured squid
[20:05:09] <codurr>	 proxies. This is preferred over wfIsTrustedProxy since wfIsTrustedProxy also
[20:05:10] <codurr>	 runs a hook that gets used by an extension on the WMF cluster to check the IP
[20:05:11] <codurr>	 (114 lines omitted)
[20:05:20] <codurr>	 03maxsem * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112111> 10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/MobileFormatter.php: Avoid undefined index notices
[20:05:20] <codurr>	 03ialex * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112112> 10/trunk/phase3/includes/specials/SpecialStatistics.php: Use local context to get messages
[20:05:21] <codurr>	 03gwicke * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112113> 10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
[20:05:21] <codurr>	 Add some support for functionhooks in test parser and parserTests.js, and
[20:05:22] <codurr>	 tweak a few parser functions.
[20:05:23] <codurr>	 03gwicke * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112110> 10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/parser/ (4 files): Basic fall-through support for #switch parser function
[20:05:24] <codurr>	 03gwicke * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112117> 10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/parser/ext.core.ParserFunctions.js: Follow-up to r112116, accidentally committed from subdirectory.
[20:05:25] <codurr>	 03maxsem * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112114> 10/trunk/extensions/ApiSandbox/ (ApiSandbox.i18n.php ApiSandbox.php ext.apiSandbox.js): Show request time
[20:05:26] <codurr>	 03gwicke * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112116> 10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/tests/parser/parserTests.js: Green two more parser tests by implementing some parser functions.
[20:05:39] <codurr>	 03jdlrobson * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112118> 10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/javascripts/ (4 files):
[20:05:40] <codurr>	 abstract addEventListener
[20:05:40] <codurr>	 IE < 9 doesn't support addEventListener so it is
[20:05:40] <codurr>	 useful to have a utility function to attach events going
[20:05:41] <codurr>	 forward.
[20:05:42] <codurr>	 Note discussion here:
[20:05:43] <codurr>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112019
[20:05:44] <codurr>	 03emsmith * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112115> 10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/ (11 files in 2 dirs): bug 34090 - no code changes, just fixing/adding keyword svn properties
[20:05:45] <codurr>	 03emsmith * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112119> 10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/api/ApiArticleFeedbackv5Utils.php: bug 34090 - cast the naughty column so it can be signed, the greatest still keeps it from going less then zero (and rolling over)
[20:05:46] <codurr>	 03jdlrobson * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112122> 10/trunk/extensions/MobileFrontend/ (3 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
[20:05:47] <codurr>	 do not run javascript on any browser < IE 10
[20:05:48] <codurr>	 currently the mobile site breaks on various versions of
[20:05:49] <codurr>	 Internet Explorer. This is due to lack of support of things
[20:05:50] <codurr>	 such as addEventListener, getElementsByClassName, document.querySelector
[20:05:51] <codurr>	 (43 lines omitted)
[20:06:36] <gwicke>	 ashish_d: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Dash1291/Thoughts
[20:06:54] <Sid-G>	 I was wondering if it would be possible to have a feature something like this:
[20:06:54] <Sid-G>	 If I input :English:de in the search box on en-wp, it should take me to the de-interwiki linked from the article [[English]] on en-wp.
[20:08:38] <Reedy>	 jeremyb: ^^
[20:08:39] <Sid-G>	 if there's no interwiki to de on [[English]], it would just stop at [[English]] and not go anywhere
[20:09:34] <Dantman>	 Reedy: if ( $commitDate < time() - (24 * 60 * 60 * 60) ) { continue; } // don't make catch-up notifications when the notifications are a day old.
[20:09:55] <Reedy>	 Dantman: i purposely made them
[20:14:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Prototype misconfiguration: $wgCopyrightIcon override points to nonexisting wikimedia-button.png URL - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/26921  +comment (10hazard_sj)
[20:22:15] <ashish_d>	 gwicke: By transformation on client, do you mean composing the pending transactions in the buffer until the client is acknowledged by the server?
[20:22:29] <gwicke>	 ashish_d: yes
[20:22:54] <ashish_d>	 gwicke: Ah, I get it
[20:23:01] <gwicke>	 but a transaction sent by the client to the server is only allowed to be based on the latest server state
[20:23:41] <freakolowsky>	 funky ... one irc client got stuck somwhere in bg ... didn't even notice
[20:23:43] <gwicke>	 so the server actually looks very similar to the client right now
[20:24:03] <gwicke>	 plus the additional communication
[20:25:02] <ashish_d>	 gwicke: Yeah, makes sense to me
[20:27:41] <gwicke>	 ashish_d: there were also some papers on doing group collaborative editing without OT, they are linked from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operational_transformation
[20:27:53] <gwicke>	 if you search for 'post-ot' in there you should find it
[20:28:11] <ashish_d>	 gwicke: Thanks
[20:28:47] <gwicke>	 'they workaround the need to transform operations by employing a combination of unique symbol identifiers, vector timestamps and/or tombstones.'
[20:29:23] <gwicke>	 some of those avoid the need for a linear model
[20:30:14] <Krenair>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Security_alert&limit=100 Well, that doesn't look good :/
[20:30:22] <gwicke>	 I still have a lingering feeling that some tree operations could lead to less ideal results when resolved via OT on a linear model
[20:31:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) On MediaWiki.org, ExtensionDistributor is down. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34583  (10Hazard-SJ)
[20:33:25] <ashish_d>	 gwicke: which operations and why?
[20:34:22] <gwicke>	 ashish_d: my worries are mostly about table cell merges and similar structural changes
[20:34:53] <gwicke>	 but I did not work through that in detail
[20:36:07] <gwicke>	 could just be missing understanding of those cases
[20:36:59] * Dantman  wonders what kinds of things you could do in MediaWiki with access to a webworker

[20:37:16] <ashish_d>	 gwicke: hmm, i haven't studied the linear model of those structures, but maybe they would need to be transformed differently due to internal nestation?
[20:37:51] <gwicke>	 Dantman: time and memory-limited template-like DOM transformations on the client side ;)
[20:37:51] <codurr>	 03emsmith * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112142> 10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/api/ApiFlagFeedbackArticleFeedbackv5.php: bug 34090 - toggle for atomic un/helpful changing (and elimination of an extra http request)
[20:37:55] <codurr>	 03khorn * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112143> 10/trunk/extensions/DonationInterface/extras/minfraud/ccfd/CreditCardFraudDetection.php: Quick change to update for minfraud's new server names.
[20:38:13] <Dantman>	 gwicke: As long as you don't need the dom api
[20:38:31] <gwicke>	 Dantman: we use jsdom currently
[20:38:44] <Dantman>	 gwicke: But yes, iirc that's what Ace uses it for too
[20:39:25] <sumanah>	 ashish_d: you're up late!
[20:39:57] <gwicke>	 ashish_d: I think the scope of the transaction will grow for those cases
[20:40:09] <gwicke>	 but trevor knows much more about it than I do
[20:40:44] <gwicke>	 I think he has worked most of it out already
[20:41:23] <ashish_d>	 sumanah: Used to it :D
[20:41:32] <sumanah>	 :)
[20:42:49] <ashish_d>	 gwicke: I think I would explore them a  little
[20:43:01] <ashish_d>	 thanks
[20:43:33] <gwicke>	 ashish_d: sure!
[20:43:44] <Dantman>	 lol... Client side video transcoding?
[20:44:15] <Dantman>	 ^_^ You'd have to rewrite ffmpeg in JS or something I suppose
[20:44:51] <brion>	 https://github.com/kripken/emscripten/wiki
[20:44:59] <MaxSem>	 GWT
[20:45:00] <Dantman>	 Can that JS based linux kernel I heard about do ffmpeg?
[20:45:51] <Dantman>	 WHAT, Python, Ruby, and Lua... and no-one has used it on php?
[20:46:15] <Dantman>	 ^_^ We could use workers in the meantime to have a client-side parser for the messages system
[20:46:25] <AaronSchulz>	 RoanKattouw_away: '$path = $wgLocalFileRepo['directory'] . '/temp/'..." how is that going to work?
[20:47:01] <Dantman>	 No... wait... better... ;) I wonder if we could abuse a worker and create a client side in-browser MediaWiki impl
[20:47:02] <RoanKattouw_away>	 AaronSchulz: Why would it break?
[20:47:03] <gwicke>	 Dantman: the linux kernel should be able to do ffmpeg- just very slow..
[20:47:23] <gwicke>	 it is a plain x86 kernel after all
[20:47:30] <AaronSchulz>	 RoanKattouw: you are giving an FS path to a File object
[20:47:38] <brion>	 you'd want to compile it to JS rather than use an x86 emu i think
[20:47:41] <RoanKattouw>	 Ooh
[20:47:51] <RoanKattouw>	 I *was* giving it an mwstore URL previously
[20:47:54] <AaronSchulz>	 why not use $repo->getZonePath( 'public' )?
[20:47:59] <RoanKattouw>	 I did before
[20:48:08] <RoanKattouw>	 Or... something with zonepath
[20:48:58] <AaronSchulz>	 look at getSize() in UnregisteredLocalFile
[20:49:03] <AaronSchulz>	 for example
[20:49:08] <Dantman>	 http://syntensity.com/static/lua.html
[20:49:33] <AaronSchulz>	 $props = $this->repo->getFileProps( $this->path );
[20:49:34] <Dantman>	 So... we're planning to support Lua... anyone up for a client-side preview of code output ;) ?
[20:49:44] <RoanKattouw>	 Right so that's supposed to be an mwstore URL?
[20:49:51] <AaronSchulz>	 path, not URL
[20:49:54] <AaronSchulz>	 but yes
[20:50:46] <RoanKattouw>	 OK
[20:50:50] <RoanKattouw>	 Will (try to) fix
[20:51:00] <AaronSchulz>	 what was the broken url you were using to test?
[20:51:02] <gwicke>	 brion: of course ;)
[20:51:23] <sumanah>	 ashish_d: do you have a moment for me to help set up your Labs access?
[20:51:34] <RoanKattouw>	 AaronSchulz:               $img = new UnregisteredLocalFile( Title::makeTitle(NS_FILE, $strippedName), $repo, $path, false );    ?
[20:51:48] <ashish_d>	 sumanah: Sure
[20:51:57] <sumanah>	 join me in #wikimedia-labs, ashish_d 
[20:52:07] <AaronSchulz>	 what about it?
[20:52:17] <RoanKattouw>	 Does that look right?
[20:52:27] <AaronSchulz>	 did you paste the wrong line?
[20:52:37] <RoanKattouw>	 No, that's my suggestion for a correction
[20:52:39] <RoanKattouw>	 Oh
[20:52:42] <RoanKattouw>	 Damn
[20:52:44] <RoanKattouw>	 Yes
[20:52:46] <RoanKattouw>	 Sorry
[20:52:48] <RoanKattouw>	 $path = $repo->getZonePath( 'public' ) . '/temp/' . RepoGroup::singleton()->getLocalRepo()->getHashPath( $strippedName ) . $fileName;
[20:53:00] <AaronSchulz>	 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-by-one_error
[20:53:27] <AaronSchulz>	 RoanKattouw: the 'public' zone already has /temp right?
[20:53:34] <RoanKattouw>	 On $repo yes
[20:53:41] <RoanKattouw>	                         'url' => $wgLocalFileRepo['url'] . '/temp',                                                                                                                             
[20:54:06] <RoanKattouw>	 Oh, crap
[20:54:18] <RoanKattouw>	 $path = $repo->getZonePath( 'public' ) . '/' . RepoGroup::singleton()->getLocalRepo()->getHashPath( $strippedName ) . $fileName;
[20:54:19] <RoanKattouw>	 then
[20:54:52] <AaronSchulz>	 ok
[20:55:09] <RoanKattouw>	 Syncing that now
[20:55:24] <AaronSchulz>	 I'd shorted the repo name a bit for readability, since it shows up in mwstore:// urls and the like ;)
[20:55:28] <AaronSchulz>	 *shorten
[20:55:30] <RoanKattouw>	 haha
[20:55:44] <RoanKattouw>	 I'll do that later
[20:56:01] <AaronSchulz>	 the same time when you will refactor all this?
[20:56:14] <AaronSchulz>	 ;)
[20:56:18] <codurr>	 03reedy * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112144> 10/trunk/extensions/UploadWizard/UploadWizard.sql: Add all index to UploadWizard.sql, then it's easily enableable by using 1 file, rather than having to use 4 files
[20:56:24] <RoanKattouw>	 heh, I get this error now, I think this is good
[20:56:25] <RoanKattouw>	 Error creating thumbnail: /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.19/bin/ulimit4.sh: line 4: /usr/bin/convert: No such file or directory
[20:56:32] <RoanKattouw>	 (I'm calling thumb.php on test.wp.o directly)
[20:56:54] <codurr>	 03khorn * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112145> 10/branches/fundraising/deployment/payments_1.17/extensions/DonationInterface/extras/minfraud/ccfd/CreditCardFraudDetection.php: MFT r112143
[20:57:11] <codurr>	 03yonishostak * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112146> 10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/modules/jquery.articleFeedbackv5/jquery.articleFeedbackv5.special.js: AFTv5: fix bug in toggled (un)helpful onSuccess handlers
[20:57:26] <Amgine>	 RoanKattouw: Just want a confirmation: is it possible to create a new user account via api?
[20:59:29] <RoanKattouw>	 No
[20:59:45] <RoanKattouw>	 Maybe in an ext but not in core
[21:00:24] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sometimes two search fields are rendered instead of one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34598  +comment (10brion)
[21:00:36] <Amgine>	 Thanks RoanKattouw.
[21:00:39] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Special:UploadWizard loading insecure content from commons - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34599 minor; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (sam)
[21:01:46] <Reedy>	 Amgine: a gsoc project created an extension with an api module for it
[21:01:50] <Reedy>	 not really reviewed or tested
[21:01:57] <codurr>	 03emsmith * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112147> 10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/api/ApiFlagFeedbackArticleFeedbackv5.php: bug 34090 - note to self, watch the copy and paste errors...
[21:02:21] <AaronSchulz>	 RoanKattouw: I guess you should commit that now, lest it disappear into the Aether again
[21:02:27] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Incorrect head scripts when useHeadElement=false - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34600 normal; MediaWiki: General/Unknown; (vitalif)
[21:03:03] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Incorrect head scripts when useHeadElement=false - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34600  +comment (10vitalif)
[21:03:46] <Amgine>	 Reedy: we shut down api on a site that was getting a lot of spam and has no official api users/bots: spam accounts have dropped to almost zero.
[21:05:01] <Amgine>	 It shouldn't have had an effect, but clearly it does.
[21:05:23] <AaronSchulz>	 RoanKattouw: I can't get pngs to work atm
[21:05:25] <AaronSchulz>	 on test2
[21:06:08] * AaronSchulz  can't recall if they ever worked

[21:06:37] <RoanKattouw>	 But it works for me at https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/test/thumb/temp/0/00/20111101081549!phpUGNu8J.png/px-20111101081549!phpUGNu8J.png
[21:06:58] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Loading ext.wikieditor.toolbar should not initialize it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34594  (10mybugs.mail)
[21:08:19] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Loading ext.wikieditor.toolbar should not initialize it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34594  (10mybugs.mail)
[21:08:25] <RoanKattouw>	 Ahm
[21:08:34] <RoanKattouw>	 I meant https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/test/thumb/temp/0/00/20111101081549!phpUGNu8J.png/55px-20111101081549!phpUGNu8J.png
[21:10:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) enhanced editing toolbar needs normal edit toolbar - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/19786  (10mybugs.mail)
[21:10:59] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "Show edit toolbar" preference is confusing - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/30795  (10mybugs.mail)
[21:12:45] <AaronSchulz>	 RoanKattouw: so why does the other one give 500? :)
[21:13:01] <RoanKattouw>	  /px-foobar
[21:13:06] <RoanKattouw>	 No numerical value for the width
[21:13:16] <RoanKattouw>	 (copypaste snafu on my part)
[21:13:22] <AaronSchulz>	 still, 500 seems odd
[21:13:27] <AaronSchulz>	 maybe 400
[21:13:34] <AaronSchulz>	 would make more sense, 'bad request'
[21:13:37] <gry>	 http://wikimediafoundation.org appears to not allow new user registrations. how can this be done, and what special page would I use to register new users on my wiki if I want to do that manually myself?
[21:14:09] <codurr>	 03inez * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112148> 10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/playground/ (. index.html playground.js): Simple and temporary playground to work on retrieving content changes from content editable element.
[21:15:29] <RoanKattouw>	 Exception from line 90 of /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.19/includes/specials/SpecialUploadStash.php: Fetching thumbnail failed: Array (     [0] => Array         (             [0] => http-bad-status             [1] =>   4             [2] => Not Found         )  )  url = http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/test2/thumb/temp/c/c3/20120222205453%21phptGVSAf.png/100px-20120222205453%21phptGVSAf
[21:15:31] <RoanKattouw>	 .png
[21:16:14] <RoanKattouw>	 !access | gry
[21:16:14] <mw-bot>	 gry: For information on customizing user access, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_rights>. For common examples of restricting access using both rights and extensions, see <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Preventing_access>.
[21:16:36] <RoanKattouw>	 gry: There should be documentation in there on how to prevent registrations. You can create user accounts for other people using [[Special:Userlogin/signup]]
[21:16:43] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Loading ext.wikieditor.toolbar should not initialize it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34594  (10mybugs.mail)
[21:19:49] <sumanah>	 Joe___: so, you have a pal who is interested in Google Summer of Code.
[21:20:01] <Joe___>	 yes I do.
[21:20:13] <sumanah>	 Joe___: the best thing your friend can do is to start looking at who the participating organizations were last year.
[21:20:26] <Joe___>	 Ok
[21:20:45] <sumanah>	 Joe___: if your friend is more of a front-end web developer, MediaWiki might be a good fit.
[21:20:48] <sumanah>	 Joe___: (for example)
[21:21:51] <codurr>	 03emsmith * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112149> 10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/api/ApiFlagFeedbackArticleFeedbackv5.php: bug 34090 - no upper limit, only lower limit - we can't get any worse then 0
[21:22:32] <sumanah>	 Joe___: but other organizations that mentor for GSoC include many others
[21:22:38] <Joe___>	 My friend is interested in finding a career in web development.
[21:23:30] <codurr>	 03tparscal * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112150> 10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/modules/ve/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Replaced "set" and "clear" method for attribute transactions with "replace" method, which allows correct reversion. Also fixed list item tools to correctly use the new function signature.
[21:24:15] <codurr>	 03catrope * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112151> 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/thumb.php: (log message trimmed)
[21:24:15] <codurr>	 1.19wmf1: Fix the UploadStash hack in thumb.php so it works with the FileRepo refactoring. This is already live.
[21:24:15] <codurr>	 * FSRepo constructor needs real file paths, but getZonePath() returns mwstore paths. Pass in data from $wgLocalFileRepo instead. This is a hack but whatever
[21:24:15] <codurr>	 * FSRepo constructor requires a 'name' key, pass one. This caused a notice in 1.18wmf1 but causes an exception in 1.19wmf1
[21:24:16] <codurr>	 * For building $path, use the 'public' zone of the fake repo rather than the
[21:24:17] <codurr>	 'temp' zone of the real repo. They have the same FS paths, so they were
[21:24:18] <codurr>	 identical in 1.18wmf1 but the mwstore URLs returned in 1.19wmf1 are different
[21:24:18] <RoanKattouw>	 AaronSchulz: ---^^
[21:24:29] * AaronSchulz  opens the book

[21:24:42] <RoanKattouw>	 ?
[21:25:20] <freakolowsky>	 aw funky ... the weatherman just said it's going to be 30deg hotter next week that it was last week :S
[21:25:55] <gry>	 thanks RoanKattouw_away
[21:26:31] <sumanah>	 Joe___: Joe____ ok, so good organizations might be:
[21:26:46] <Joe____>	 Sorry sumanah i lost connection
[21:27:02] <sumanah>	 Apache, WordPress, Drupal, Code For America, Creative Commons, phpMyAdmin......
[21:27:19] <codurr>	 New code comment: Krinkle; I haven't tested any of this, but I see a few pieces of concern that you may not have been aware of.; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111989#c31351>
[21:28:00] <sumanah>	 Joe____: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2011 will be useful for your friend to look at
[21:30:05] <Joe____>	 Thanks again Sumanah.
[21:30:21] <sumanah>	 Joe____: Glad to help! if your friend is interested in MediaWiki specifically then I am happy to help
[21:30:31] <Joe____>	 Ok sounds good.
[21:30:33] <Joe____>	 :)
[21:30:35] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) SemanticMediaWiki: r111407 breaks creating new pages. - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34499  +comment (10van.de.bugger)
[21:30:38] <sumanah>	 and you can suggest that your pal directly contact me, or just look at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2012
[21:31:34] <codurr>	 New code comment: Krinkle; Same as in r111989 cr, <code>$toolbar : [],</code>; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111983#c31352>
[21:33:34] <codurr>	 New code comment: Aaron Schulz; The change to $repo->getZonePath( 'public' ) makes sense since the backend name portion of the path ; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112151#c31353>
[21:34:33] <Krinkle>	 sumanah: Can we move the Git session 1,5 hour later ? It's from 4 to 4.30 pm for me right now, but I'm not home until 5pm
[21:34:47] <Krinkle>	 (college until 4.40)
[21:36:37] <RoanKattouw>	 Are you in a different session than me?
[21:37:20] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Lucene results order when lucene scores are equivalent can vary - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32026  +comment (10josowski)
[21:37:49] <codurr>	 New code comment: Catrope; Yeah. It didn't matter before because it was all just FS paths anyway, so <code>$repo->getZonePath( ; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112151#c31354>
[21:38:10] <johnduhart>	 chuckreynolds
[21:38:12] <johnduhart>	 oops
[21:38:19] <johnduhart>	 http://www.diigo.com/item/image/25jjt/x37g?size=o
[21:38:24] * johnduhart  bangs head on desk

[21:38:54] <Krinkle>	 RoanKattouw: "Git, Gerrit, and You!", "sumana, Chad, ttijhof"
[21:38:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Oracle installer throw SET CONSTRAINTS ALL DEFERRED PL/SQL error - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34280  +comment (10jfehrman)
[21:39:10] <RoanKattouw>	 Krinkle: OK, we have one with the VE team on Friday at 10am PST
[21:39:17] <Krinkle>	 this one is Fri Feb 24 4pm – 4:30pm Amsterdam
[21:41:21] <RoanKattouw>	 Ah, right, so it's right before
[21:41:23] <RoanKattouw>	 Damn that's at 7am
[21:41:40] <RoanKattouw>	 So yeah I won't be in that one :)
[21:44:01] <codurr>	 03catrope * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112152> 10/trunk/phase3/ (RELEASE-NOTES-1.19 includes/SkinTemplate.php): (bug 34600) Older skins using useHeadElement=false were broken in 1.18 . Modified patch by Vitaliy Flippov
[21:45:27] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) Incorrect head scripts when useHeadElement=false - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34600  +comment (10Roan Kattouw)
[21:46:31] <aharoni>	 புனே :)
[21:46:46] <aharoni>	 oops, wrong window
[21:47:54] <Dantman>	 RoanKattouw: Can I make MW output deprecation warnings when headelement is not used?
[21:48:38] <RoanKattouw>	 I don't know
[21:48:45] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sometimes two search fields are rendered instead of one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34598  +comment (10brion)
[21:48:49] <Dantman>	 may*
[21:56:00] <codurr>	 03brion * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112153> 10/trunk/extensions/Vector/Vector.php:
[21:56:00] <codurr>	 * (bug 34598) Double search dropdowns sometimes appearing
[21:56:00] <codurr>	 Forces mwsuggest to load before vector simple search, so we can guarantee that we disable it. (If it were loaded second and ready already called, then it could load simplesearch first and fail to disable mwsuggest.)
[21:57:02] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sometimes two search fields are rendered instead of one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34598  +comment (10brion)
[21:57:47] <codurr>	 03emsmith * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112154> 10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/bin/ (. find_needed_i18n_keys.php): bug 34090 - quick and dirty helper script to get missing documentation keys
[22:01:01] <Wikinaut>	 :-)) someone has broken (since r111981) the edit icons
[22:01:49] <Reedy>	 brion_: any chance you could review https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111604 for Commons? Thanks!
[22:02:19] <brion_>	 hah firefox 10 faiiiiiiil
[22:03:00] <brion_>	 hmm
[22:03:10] <wikibugs>	 03(FIXED) the nearby function doesn't work in some locales - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33704  +comment (10Yuvi Panda)
[22:03:24] <brion_>	 ok should work
[22:03:33] <brion_>	 just making sure wht parseFloat does with say '5.0.1'
[22:04:25] <Krenair>	 Reedy, happy with me approving https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Requests#Rd232 ?
[22:04:34] <codurr>	 New code comment: Brion VIBBER; I don't like the version checking particularly, this should probably be replaced with checks for exa; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111604#c31355>
[22:05:07] <Reedy>	 Krenair: if what he say is true, then yeah, should be fine
[22:07:13] <Krenair>	 I checked the commons and enwiki logs and what he said was true
[22:07:31] <Dantman>	 *grin* Sweet... Schema.org metadata really does make a difference
[22:07:34] <codurr>	 New code comment: Krinkle; $.browser is deprecated by jQuery. \ Use $.client.profile() instead: \ <source lang="javascript"> \ $.br; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111604#c31356>
[22:11:15] <pubsez>	 how does mediawiki deal with caching for time sensitive pages, such as those that include CURRENTDATE etc…  ?
[22:11:42] <Dantman>	 iirc it triggers a condition where we try to only cache for 1h
[22:13:37] <Dantman>	 brion_: We should get en.wp using Microdata, especially Places. Think of someone searching for something on Google, the first entry being a WP entry, and it coming along with a map.
[22:13:44] <pubsez>	 Dantman: is it stored in the Cache-Control header? 
[22:13:47] <codurr>	 03wikinaut * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112155> 10/trunk/extensions/WikiArticleFeeds/ (WikiArticleFeeds.php WikiArticleFeeds_body.php): rewritten into 4-file version. Introducing the new class WikiArticleFeeds. Added the pagetitle to the auto-discovery feed links (meta tag)
[22:14:19] <codurr>	 03emsmith * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112156> 10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/api/ApiViewActivityArticleFeedbackv5.php: bug 34090 - only send the activity header if continue < 1, make the more div a link
[22:15:26] <brion_>	 Dantman: i tend to agree, on the output side
[22:16:20] * varnent  http://tmbw.net/wiki/   - wins my award for cool design of the month  :)

[22:16:32] <Dantman>	 pubsez: We don't even seam to be using cache-control caching for pages themselves. It's probably just a parser cache condition.
[22:16:47] <codurr>	 03inez * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112157> 10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/playground/playground.js: Initial implementation of logic to recognize if edit is coming from keyboard or somewhere else (spellcheck)
[22:17:11] <Dantman>	 Ah... right, on the input side it's hard to handle |address=1600 Amphitheatre Parkway Mountain View, CA 94043
[22:17:28] <pubsez>	 Dantman: how does squid/proxy would know how long it should cache? I am guessing that their expiration is different from other pages, right?
[22:17:32] <Dantman>	 We really need more intuitive interfaces like these
[22:18:01] <varnent>	 Dantman: agreed
[22:18:22] <Dantman>	 pubsez: Not sure, en.wp doesn't even have an s-maxage
[22:20:24] <pubsez>	 thanks Dantman 
[22:20:38] <Dantman>	 One of these days I want to implement proper ETags
[22:20:48] <Dantman>	 Ditch Last-Modified, and ditch our Loggedout cookie.
[22:21:01] <pubsez>	 by the way, is there a way to see the squid settings of the official mediawiki sites?
[22:23:47] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Can't authenticate using my mother language username (UNICODE) when I only have (a public) access to Wikipedia with an ASCII (english) keyboard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34590  (10Sam Reed (reedy))
[22:25:34] <Reedy>	 !puppet
[22:25:35] <mw-bot>	 I don't know anything about "puppet".
[22:25:38] <Reedy>	 Fail
[22:25:52] <Reedy>	 pubsez: yes, nearly all of wikipedias configuration is public
[22:26:27] <pubsez>	 Reedy: squid confs seems to be the exception though
[22:26:46] <Reedy>	 Nope
[22:27:06] <Reedy>	 There's 13 files and folders squid related in our ops puppet config repo
[22:27:35] <Reedy>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/p/operations/puppet
[22:27:50] <Reedy>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=operations/puppet.git;a=summary
[22:28:21] <Reedy>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=operations/puppet.git;a=tree;f=files/squid;h=b30981c2417a7ffe5bc7d531aa572530e6fd7517;hb=HEAD
[22:29:10] <pubsez>	 Reedy:  yes, I found them before, but if you look at some of the files they seem to be incomplete
[22:29:19] <Reedy>	 What's missing?
[22:29:20] <pubsez>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=operations/puppet.git;a=blob;f=files/squid/squid-frontend;h=869da5d9efaac8b56badcd41758c5be599bf7055;hb=HEAD 
[22:29:25] <pubsez>	 squid frontend's conf file
[22:29:27] <Reedy>	 there's some other template files
[22:29:55] <Reedy>	 Most likely an oversight
[22:30:02] <Reedy>	 Or it hasn't been reconfigured
[22:30:03] <Reedy>	 Ryan_Lane: ^
[22:30:36] <pubsez>	 could be, but I looked all those files and seems that real squid conf is not there
[22:30:53] <Reedy>	 What exactly do you think is missing?
[22:32:50] <pubsez>	 for example squid frontend's settings needs to include carp related configuration, but I haven't seen any conf file that includes those
[22:33:40] <pubsez>	 also squid backend's settings need to include coss related settings, but again I haven't see any conf file that includes those settings
[22:33:53] <codurr>	 03krinkle * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112158> 10/trunk/extensions/MarkAsHelpful/modules/ext.markAsHelpful/ext.markAsHelpful.js:
[22:33:53] <codurr>	 [MarkAsHelpful] js/css clean up
[22:33:53] <codurr>	 * Store main object in mw.markAsHelpful instead of ambiguous mw.mah (hey Mark!), keeping local 'mah' alias as it is.
[22:33:53] <codurr>	 * Aliasing 'mw' from global 'mediaWiki' object locally.
[22:33:54] <codurr>	 * Whitespace / conventions / documentation
[22:33:56] <pubsez>	 all the other components are pretty much obvious but I couldn't figure out the squid
[22:36:51] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) "Drop media file to donate here" sometimes silently fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34601 major; MediaWiki extensions: UploadWizard; (robla)
[22:37:06] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) "Drop media file to donate here" sometimes silently fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34601  (10Rob Lanphier)
[22:38:54] <Reedy>	 pubsez: can you put it all down in a bugzilla bug report? We can then poke ops to find out where the extra configs are
[22:39:01] <Reedy>	 or if they can't be uploaded currently, why
[22:40:19] <pubsez>	 sure Reedy, I assume this is the correct link for the correct bugzilla https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org, let me know if it is otherwise
[22:40:29] <p858snake|l>	 Yes that is the correct BZ
[22:40:36] <Reedy>	 Yup
[22:46:04] <codurr>	 03krinkle * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112159> 10/trunk/extensions/MarkAsHelpful/modules/ext.markAsHelpful/ (ext.markAsHelpful.css ext.markAsHelpful.js):
[22:46:04] <codurr>	 [MarkAsHelpful] js/css clean up
[22:46:04] <codurr>	 * Whitespace
[22:46:05] <codurr>	 * newline at end of file
[22:51:09] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Sometimes two search suggestion boxes are rendered instead of one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34598  summary (10Krinkle)
[22:51:16] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) [SimpleSearch] Sometimes two search suggestion boxes are rendered instead of one - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34598  summary (10Krinkle)
[22:52:51] <Krinkle>	 brion: Funny how simpleSearch depends on the very module it tries to disable
[22:53:08] <Krinkle>	 I wonder though, now it's loaded also for users that have the mwsuggest pref to false, right ?
[22:53:19] <Krinkle>	 or is there no pref specifically for the old one?
[22:55:25] <wikibugs>	 14(INVALID) Loading ext.wikieditor.toolbar should not initialize it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34594  +comment (10Krinkle)
[22:56:13] <wikibugs>	 03(NEW) Loading ext.wikieditor.toolbar should not initialize it - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34602 normal; MediaWiki extensions: WikiEditor; (krinklemail)
[22:56:54] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Loading ext.wikieditor.toolbar module should not load it if user has preference "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" off - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34594  summary (10Krinkle)
[22:57:23] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Loading ext.wikieditor.toolbar module should not load it if user has preference "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" off - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34594  +comment (10krinklemail)
[22:59:25] <monchsta>	 hi. i am trying to disable ip logging on a mediawiki i recently installed. i set $wgPutIPinRC to false in my LocalSettings.php but this still doesn't seem to have removed ip's from the recent changes dialogue. can anyone tell me if any additional steps need to be taken in mediawiki 1.18 to make sure ip's are kept unlogged/anon?
[22:59:41] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Loading ext.wikieditor.toolbar module should not load it if user has preference "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" off - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34594  (10mybugs.mail)
[23:02:04] <codurr>	 New code comment: Krinkle; <pre> \ 97 + // We need to remove dependencies from mw.util that will don't use and \ 98 + // ar; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/110931#c31358>
[23:03:57] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Loading ext.wikieditor.toolbar module should not load it if user has preference "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" off - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34594  +comment (10krinklemail)
[23:05:49] <codurr>	 New code comment: Tim Starling; It only needs a 1.19wmf1 backport if we're going to use that exact branch with git and not make a ne; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111643#c31359>
[23:07:13] <codurr>	 03reedy * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112160> 10/trunk/extensions/WikiEditor/WikiEditor.hooks.php: Followup r111796, always return true
[23:08:08] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Loading ext.wikieditor.toolbar module should not load it if user has preference "Enable enhanced editing toolbar" off - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34594  (10mybugs.mail)
[23:09:05] <codurr>	 New code comment: RobLa-WMF; Per Brion's comment, we need a capability check here, but not for now. That's probably not going to; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111604#c31360>
[23:09:11] <Krenair>	 monchsta, can't you just get users to make accounts?
[23:09:47] <monchsta>	 well i know cryptoanarchy.org masks ip's of people without accounts and that's what i was aiming for
[23:10:02] <monchsta>	 so it would just say 'anonymous' instead of ip address in rc
[23:10:14] <monchsta>	 and thats a mediawiki implementation i believe
[23:11:56] <Platonides>	 monchsta, modify wfGetIP() to return eg. "Protected"
[23:12:04] <codurr>	 New code comment: Krinkle; Hm.. yeah, git only has one <tt>.git</tt> directory in the repo root. Not in every subdirectory. \ Bu; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111643#c31361>
[23:12:05] <Krinkle>	 werdna: ^
[23:12:12] <monchsta>	 thanks
[23:12:15] <Platonides>	 anything retrieving IPs goes through it
[23:13:04] <codurr>	 New code comment: RobLa-WMF; Good point; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111643#c31362>
[23:13:32] <AaronSchulz>	 Platonides: isn't that function deprecated?
[23:14:06] <wikibugs>	 03(ASSIGNED) "Drop media file to donate here" sometimes silently fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34601  +comment (10Brion Vibber)
[23:15:23] <codurr>	 03emsmith * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112161> 10/trunk/extensions/ArticleFeedbackv5/api/ApiViewActivityArticleFeedbackv5.php: bug 34090 - fix limit and use old continue to determine if we do the header
[23:15:42] <Krinkle>	 TrevorParscal: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Thread:Project:Support_desk/Web_Page_Edit_Mode&diff=prev&oldid=502772
[23:15:48] <Krinkle>	 Looks like a problem in WikiEditor
[23:15:56] <Krinkle>	 variable not replaced and <message-key> 
[23:16:00] <Krinkle>	 can you check it out?
[23:16:32] <Krinkle>	 RoanKattouw_away: Did you do anything with the <style> issues? It's left on my list of things to check today, I could do something now
[23:16:39] <monchsta>	 thanks Platonides, i fixed it now
[23:18:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Can't authenticate using my mother language username (UNICODE) when I only have (a public) access to Wikipedia with an ASCII (english) keyboard - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34590   +need-review +patch; +comment (10Sumana Harihareswara)
[23:19:05] <Krinkle>	 Reedy: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Project:Support_desk/MediaWiki_release_notes_is_missing_from_announcement
[23:19:10] <Krinkle>	 http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-announce/2012-January/000107.html
[23:19:22] <Krinkle>	 Reedy: Looks like your line-length breaker screwed up
[23:19:25] <Krinkle>	 (or pipermail did)
[23:19:37] <Krinkle>	 the last .sig link as well
[23:19:41] <Reedy>	 and the file is wrong
[23:19:44] <Krinkle>	 yep
[23:19:45] <Reedy>	 Too late, post is out
[23:19:48] <Krinkle>	 yeah
[23:19:55] <Krinkle>	 but good to know :)
[23:20:03] <Krinkle>	 although I'm sure you know in general
[23:20:03] <Reedy>	 I fixed the version append issue in the script back at the time
[23:20:16] <Reedy>	 I'm not sure what is wrapping the text
[23:20:24] <Krinkle>	 there is a script for it?
[23:20:45] <Krinkle>	 you don't write them by hand? It's just a bit of text :P
[23:21:06] <sumanah>	 I see we successfully upgraded Commons?
[23:21:22] <Reedy>	 Krinkle: it's dumped by the script that builds the releases
[23:23:28] <RoanKattouw_away>	 Krinkle: I didn't. You were gonna tell me what the third problem was I think?
[23:23:46] <RoanKattouw>	 Krinkle: I'm not gonna get too much work done today so if you were gonna do it, by all means
[23:23:49] <Krinkle>	 RoanKattouw: I already did?
[23:24:08] <sumanah>	 hey varnent - I seem to have wifi on this train, so we can talk about the web gallery thing
[23:24:17] <varnent>	 great
[23:24:20] * sumanah  does not count on the wifi continuing to work

[23:24:27] <varnent>	 emailing you a transcript of that other convo now
[23:24:30] <sumanah>	 thank you
[23:24:54] <Krinkle>	 1) @import/@font-face/other random failrues due to method used of appending directly to innertext/innerhtml, 2) IE bug that was fixed in mw.util.addCSS (insert to DOM before setting cssText), 3) mismatch in media-atribute
[23:24:56] <Krinkle>	 RoanKattouw: 
[23:24:57] <codurr>	 03reedy * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112162> 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Merged revision r112034, r112037, r112100, r112141, r112152 from trunk/phase3
[23:25:05] <RoanKattouw>	 Oooooh right
[23:25:12] <RoanKattouw>	 Which ones do you have fixes lined up for?
[23:25:18] <sumanah>	 Krenair: you might be interested in https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/Project_documentation_howto
[23:25:24] <varnent>	 sumanah: okay - so yeah - they have this bizarre xml file that needs to be created
[23:25:34] <sumanah>	 !
[23:25:40] <Krinkle>	 RoanKattouw: I have some local testing that seems to work in Chrome for all three actually now that I look again. Althoguh not cross-browser tested
[23:25:45] <RoanKattouw>	 Yay
[23:25:48] <Krinkle>	 but then, neither was yours probably :P
[23:26:03] <RoanKattouw>	 My code is purely hypothetical
[23:26:15] <varnent>	 sumanah: I'm going to take a look at some other xml's from project I'm familiar with to see how complicated it is - may require someone with more Windows devo skills - lol - I think Win 8 is the only Windows I have setup right now on any virtual machine or elsewhere  :)
[23:26:27] <RoanKattouw>	 I opened a bank account, went to see an apartment and listened to a presentation about our 401(k), I've had little time to actually work
[23:26:28] <sumanah>	 ok
[23:26:37] <RoanKattouw>	 barely wrote any code today
[23:26:41] <varnent>	 sumanah: but - that begs the question do we add this xml to future packages - and how do we handle their need for zip files?
[23:26:57] <varnent>	 sumanah: or do we ask them to meet us halfway on the XML work?  :)
[23:27:04] <sumanah>	 varnent: does mediawiki.org let us host ZIP files?
[23:27:11] <RoanKattouw>	 Probably not
[23:27:15] <Krinkle>	 RoanKattouw: I'm also curious how the re-creation fallback behaves performance wise (reflow? re-attempt to download referenced files?). Perhaps fallback to creating new <style> tags like before?
[23:27:19] <RoanKattouw>	 Well, not through the regular upload mechanism
[23:27:27] <RoanKattouw>	 download.wikimedia.org could host things
[23:27:32] <sumanah>	 varnent: ^
[23:27:52] <RoanKattouw>	 Krinkle: Well it's only used in IE so I have to admit I didn't care too much
[23:27:58] <RoanKattouw>	 Creating new <style> tags is not much of an option in IE
[23:28:00] <sumanah>	 RoanKattouw: congrats on the life maintenance work 
[23:28:12] <RoanKattouw>	 :) Thanks
[23:28:14] <sumanah>	 RoanKattouw: it's tedious but necessary
[23:28:26] <sumanah>	 "work is that which a body is obliged to do"
[23:28:29] <varnent>	 excellent - so how do we send things to dumps.wikimedia.org?
[23:28:37] <RoanKattouw>	 You ask an ops person
[23:28:48] <sumanah>	 varnent: do you know how to find Ops?
[23:29:02] <varnent>	 ask you  :)
[23:29:07] <Krinkle>	 RoanKattouw: Hm.. 
[23:29:31] <Krinkle>	 perhaps IE does support extending a stylesheet via cssText. since mw.util.addCSS also uses that for initial creation
[23:29:51] <varnent>	 sumanah: I'll probably host it on my test server while we figure out how to make it work - and then move it to wikimedia server once we know the zip file is complete (well...)
[23:29:52] <Krinkle>	 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/524696/how-to-create-a-style-tag-with-javascript#answers-header
[23:29:54] <varnent>	 sumanah: I'll probably host it on my test server while we figure out how to make it work - and then move it to wikimedia server once we know the zip file is complete (well…)
[23:29:56] <sumanah>	 oh, maplebed, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/Project_documentation_howto might interest you if you haven't seen it
[23:30:00] <varnent>	 *ack! - sorry
[23:30:01] <sumanah>	 varnent: ok
[23:30:03] <sumanah>	 np
[23:30:29] <RoanKattouw>	 Krinkle: Yeah I thought += on cssText might work
[23:30:33] <RoanKattouw>	 Didn't try though
[23:31:02] <maplebed>	 thanks sumanah
[23:31:03] <codurr>	 03inez * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112163> 10/trunk/extensions/VisualEditor/playground/ (index.html playground.js): Implementation of setinterval loop that checks for changes in contenteditable content
[23:31:04] <codurr>	 03reedy * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112164> 10/branches/wmf/1.19wmf1/extensions/ (7 files in 5 dirs): MFT r111604, r111796, r112153, r112160
[23:31:07] <sumanah>	 varnent: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Channels suggests #wikimedia-tech
[23:31:18] <varnent>	 kk - will check that out now
[23:32:06] <varnent>	 lol - it's another layer in the WMF kingdom we were talking about yesterday - lol - 167 members in the room  :)
[23:32:16] * varnent  easily amused sometimes

[23:32:51] <varnent>	 sumanah: this is another page I stumbled upon yesterday (oy) - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Help
[23:34:10] <codurr>	 03catrope * <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/112165> 10/trunk/phase3/resources/Resources.php: Fix spacing in r111809
[23:41:43] <sumanah>	 kevin_brown: ping
[23:43:06] <sumanah>	 Nightrose: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/Project_documentation_howto in case you want some ideas for Wikidata
[23:44:13] <Nightrose>	 sumanah: thx!
[23:44:56] <sumanah>	 Nightrose: sure.  It would be lovely to have more integration between Wikidata docs and other MediaWiki docs
[23:45:33] <Nightrose>	 ack
[23:46:52] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) multi file selection with FF10 fails - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34333  +comment (10saibotrash)
[23:51:03] <Krenair>	 sumanah: considering I'm not involved in any wikimedia engineering stuff, not really :/
[23:51:17] <wikibugs>	 03(mod) Upload Wizard - The file you submitted was empty - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34387  +comment (10saibotrash)
[23:51:52] <sumanah>	 Krenair: anybody can help with the documentation, though, and you seem interested in being up-to-date with what's going on
[23:52:21] <Krenair>	 yeah I guess so
[23:54:14] <codurr>	 New code comment: Tim Starling; Initialising to an empty array was Roan's idea, he told me to do it when I wrote r111983. There were; <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111989#c31363>